[00:00:13] <Darkalex>	Hello
[00:00:42] <Silentrage>	hello
[00:04:20] <barra>	heya :-)
[00:10:40] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Site addresses include quotation mark - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13218 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (tylerromeo)
[00:14:47] <d4t4min3r>	can anyone give me some ideas of the comparison between media wiki and twiki
[00:18:07] <Silentrage>	d4t4min3r: Visit wikimatrix.org for a comparison
[00:18:31] <Silentrage>	It has comparisons on all of the major wikis
[00:20:09] <Duesentrieb>	there'S also a comparison of wiki engines on wikipedia
[00:21:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Site addresses include quotation mark - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13218  (10overlordq)
[00:34:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Site addresses include quotation mark - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13218  (10tylerromeo)
[00:49:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Site addresses include quotation mark - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13218  (10overlordq)
[00:56:51] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Wikipedia article missing in the category where it belongs . - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13219 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (jan.koristka)
[00:57:41] <Silentrage>	Werdna: Any word yet?
[00:59:46] <dbmoodb>	hi i was wondering what you think of dreamhosts one click installer advanced mode for installing to a sub dir
[01:02:33] <CIA-43>	03siebrand * r31443 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (52 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-03-02 01:40 CET)
[01:06:17] <CIA-43>	03emiller * r31444 10/trunk/extensions/GoogleMaps/ (GoogleMaps.body.php GoogleMaps.php): Google Maps Extension: fix bug that broke maps with both lines and unattached markers.
[01:17:20] <Simetrical>	Boo, Gmail is returning an ESMTP error code when I try using plain SMTP with HELO.  :(
[01:18:47] <CIA-43>	03siebrand * r31445 10/trunk/extensions/ (114 files in 112 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-03-02 01:40 CET)
[01:21:29] <Simetrical>	Oh, no, it just wants angle brackets.
[01:21:51] <flyingparchment>	common way to deter spammers
[01:23:59] <dbmoodb>	hi i altered the dir my wiki is in to w from blah
[01:24:05] <dbmoodb>	how do iget it too work now ?
[01:24:10] <dbmoodb>	only showing /wiki/ which is nothing atm
[01:27:34] <dbmoodb>	hello ?
[01:28:14] <dbmoodb>	oh the databases..
[01:28:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Site addresses include quotation mark - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13218  (10overlordq)
[01:31:04] <Simetrical>	dbmoodb, you need to change some variables in LocalSettings.php.
[01:31:15] <Simetrical>	dbmoodb, some of them will have "blah" in them.  Change that to "w".
[01:32:34] <dbmoodb>	i did that didn't work
[01:33:37] <Silentrage>	Back...power went out
[01:33:52] <Simetrical>	dbmoodb, do you have a link to the wiki?
[01:35:26] <dbmoodb>	fixed don't worry
[01:35:53] <Silentrage>	Can someone help me fix parserfunction?
[01:37:18] <Simetrical>	Silentrage, what do you think is broken with it?
[01:37:43] <Silentrage>	Well it's still not cleaning up the code from the extensions I imported
[01:38:03] <Silentrage>	I loaded parserfunction and htmltidy
[01:38:48] <isforinsects>	eer, wiki-faq is unclear.... grr arg, I just want a page to not ?title=blahfoo
[01:41:21] <Simetrical>	!shorturl | isforinsects 
[01:41:21] --mwbot--	isforinsects: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL>. There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem
[01:43:13] <CIA-43>	03siebrand * r31446 10/trunk/extensions/BoardVote/BoardVote.i18n.php: Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki
[01:43:22] <isforinsects>	ah ha
[01:43:25] <dbmoodb>	when it says edit or make .htaccess do i just make a file called that ?
[01:45:06] <Simetrical>	dbmoodb, yes, you do.
[01:46:02] <dbmoodb>	mad:)
[01:46:30] <dbmoodb>	http://www.mu-cs.com/wiki/Main_Page
[01:46:33] <dbmoodb>	eh ?
[01:47:05] <dbmoodb>	i just installed to /w for media and now what ?
[01:48:37] <darkcode>	now follow the other instructions on the Short_URL page
[01:49:24] <CIA-43>	03siebrand * r31447 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Update documentation
[01:50:44] <dbmoodb>	i don't have root
[01:51:10] <OverlordQ>	there's other options for if you dont have root. follow one of those
[01:51:40] <dbmoodb>	i did
[01:51:44] <dbmoodb>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access
[01:52:54] <dbmoodb>	YES
[01:54:50] <dbmoodb>	this is the main page so i want to do this fast
[01:56:46] <dbmoodb>	some one ?
[01:57:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) AntiSpoof should return more than one result - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12232  +comment (10soxred93)
[01:57:13] <dbmoodb>	ok this seems to hard i'm thowing in the old catch-22 if no one can help me i am removing this
[01:57:25] <dbmoodb>	because i  need a site that is live as soon as possible
[02:07:57] <joshcryer>	Heya guys, will it be very painful to upgrade from MediaWiki 1.5beta3 to latest stable?
[02:08:11] <joshcryer>	(ie, will I have to do incremental upgrades to get to where I need to be?)
[02:09:09] <Charitwo>	wasn't there a magic word for displaying the viewers username?
[02:10:57] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Wikipedia namespaces are not translated in Language Ta - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13220 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (trengarasu)
[02:12:54] <dbmoodb>	ah ffs
[02:13:06] <dbmoodb>	this is so much bullshit
[02:13:34] <dbmoodb>	SECURE BY DEFAULT what ever happened to that ?
[02:19:02] <Silentrage>	Pages still not being parsed properly
[02:20:53] <dbmoodb>	ok ok
[02:21:08] <dbmoodb>	is it ok to run wikimedia in /w and the articles being in there too is that acceptable 
[02:21:12] <Silentrage>	Any suggestions someone?
[02:23:55] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Request Portal Namespace - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13221 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (trengarasu)
[02:24:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Support crosswiki blocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12987  (10N/A)
[02:25:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Request Portal Namespace - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13221  (10trengarasu)
[02:26:10] <Silentrage>	crap
[02:26:18] <Silentrage>	table marked as crashed
[02:27:33] <Silentrage>	A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
[02:27:33] <Silentrage>	    (SQL query hidden)
[02:27:33] <Silentrage>	from within function "Job::pop". MySQL returned error "1194: Table 'ic_job' is marked as crashed and should be repaired (localhost)"
[02:28:03] <Silentrage>	How do I repair?
[02:30:03] <Silentrage>	ok that stopped
[02:30:31] <Silentrage>	or I thought it did...
[02:32:02] <Silentrage>	Some help please
[02:33:44] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Site name translated to Tamil (ta) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13222 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (trengarasu)
[02:43:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Provide more detailed information in the protected page notice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6179  (10N/A)
[02:46:09] <Silentrage>	** Rebuilding fulltext search index (if you abort this will break searching; run
[02:46:10] <Silentrage>	 this script again to fix):
[02:46:10] <Silentrage>	Dropping index...
[02:46:10] <Silentrage>	A database query syntax error has occurred.
[02:46:10] <Silentrage>	The last attempted database query was:
[02:46:10] <Silentrage>	"ALTER TABLE `ic_searchindex` DROP INDEX si_title, DROP INDEX si_text"
[02:46:12] <Silentrage>	from within function "dropTextIndex".
[02:46:14] <Silentrage>	MySQL returned error "1142: ALTER command denied to user 'sysadm'@'localhost' fo
[02:46:16] <Silentrage>	r table 'ic_searchindex' (localhost)"
[02:57:59] <Silentrage>	how do I repair mysql from this mess?
[03:14:33] <OverlordQ>	give your wiki user the alter privledge
[03:16:48] <Silentrage>	i should have all of that privilege already. i can't even double check it tight now cause it wont load properly
[03:18:22] <Silentrage>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rich_Farmbrough/wikierrors#And_saving_that_one
[03:20:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Support crosswiki blocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12987  +comment (10cbrown1023)
[03:22:03] <isforinsects_>	I've done odd things to my wiki :S
[03:23:20] <isforinsects_>	ah ha!
[03:23:44] <isforinsects_>	'RewriteRule ^/*$ go/ [L,QSA]' does things I didn't want it to do
[03:52:04] <notJSG>	I'm trying to customize my monobook.css and I can't seem to make normal links (where it turned a URL into a link) to change color.
[04:01:31] <notJSG>	Is there a rule against talking in here?
[04:01:36] <notJSG>	There are 170 of us....
[04:38:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikipedia namespaces are not translated in Language Ta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13220  (10sundarbecse)
[05:24:49] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Wikipedia article missing in the category where it belongs. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13219  +comment (10sco_scam)
[05:46:03] <ctan>	Hi, I'm trying to get a uniquely link to a wikipedia topic and I've noticed that 
[05:46:04] <ctan>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Million%20Dollar%20Baby
[05:46:06] <ctan>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Million_Dollar_Baby
[05:46:07] <ctan>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Million_dollar_baby
[05:46:09] <ctan>	all link to the same page.  Is there a way to uniquely identify this topic using the wikipedia API (or other means)?
[05:50:00] <Dantman>	Get article's title!?
[05:50:10] <Dantman>	Those are all valid for a reason
[05:50:47] <Dantman>	The actual title is [[Million Dollar Baby]]
[05:51:00] <Dantman>	But [[Million dollar baby]] is a redirect to it.
[05:51:24] <Dantman>	Additionally %20 (a space) and _ are treated the same.
[05:51:50] <Dantman>	Because which is cleaner: Million%20Dollar%20Baby or Million_Dollar_Baby?
[05:51:51] <Warpath>	O_O
[05:52:04] <Warpath>	the bottom one :d
[05:54:59] <ctan>	the reason i'm asking is because I'm trying to link outside content to a topic.  so users could give me 3 different urls to the same topic
[05:56:06] <Dantman>	Just normalize it
[05:56:33] <Dantman>	Take a look at Title.php and how things are normalized
[05:56:43] <dbmoodb>	hi there i edited my localsettings to make some groups but they don't come up any thing wrong - do i make a different file or edit one for that ?
[06:01:04] <dbmoodb>	dude plug it in and see
[06:01:18] <dbmoodb>	if that fails
[06:01:18] <dbmoodb>	http://blog.mohanjith.net/2007/04/installing-lexmark-x1100-series-on-fc6.html
[06:01:22] <dbmoodb>	shit wrong thing
[06:03:36] <ctan>	I'm not sure where to find Title.php
[06:03:37] <ctan>	I need to use the api because sometimes I will query by pageid.  It's strange though because
[06:03:39] <ctan>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=info&titles=Million_dollar_baby
[06:03:40] <ctan>	will give me "Million dollar baby" instead of "Million Dollar Baby"
[06:06:30] *Werdna 	tickles starshine 
[06:12:25] <Charitwo>	rar
[06:12:50] <CIA-43>	03aaron * r31448 10/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/ (CheckUser.php cu_log.pg.sql): Sequence cleanup
[06:26:38] <Soxred93>	Heh, could some admin please help me out?
[06:26:48] <Soxred93>	Whoops, wrong channel
[06:26:51] <Soxred93>	Sorry
[07:12:40] <simsim>	hello
[07:13:12] <Charitwo>	hello
[07:15:09] <simsim>	are the chat logs od this room edited before archiving?
[07:15:40] <simsim>	i'm looking for few conversations i had here on last 26th but they're not there
[07:16:45] <Charitwo>	when was this and what time zone?
[07:17:19] <Splarka>	the bot isn't always connected
[07:17:25] <Splarka>	heh:  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=522967&in_page_id=1770
[07:20:06] <simsim>	Charitwo: it was on 26th November. My time zone is +3 GMT. I looked however, in logos of 25, 27 and 28 to no vaial
[07:20:11] <simsim>	*avail
[07:21:53] <Charitwo>	sorry i wasn't in here that day :(
[07:22:46] <simsim>	do you save personal logs? :)
[07:57:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable trigonometrical functions to #expr - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13216  +comment (10visi-on)
[08:26:07] <iubito>	hello !
[08:26:18] <Silentrage>	hello
[08:26:19] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	Greetings iubito
[08:26:43] <iubito>	does anyone knows a skin based on MonoBook, but with 3 columns ?
[08:27:10] <iubito>	The only one I found is http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Portal:Main but the 3rd column doesn't work very well with IE
[08:27:32] <Silentrage>	I believe there are templates for that for you to apply to monobook
[08:27:55] <Silentrage>	Load a table template and see if that works for you
[08:28:03] <Splarka>	Wikia hosts that, and their monobook looks like that (only not black background, plus they don't use monobook much anymore)
[08:28:05] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	iubito, that skin seems to appear fine to me
[08:28:34] <Silentrage>	Can someone help me fix my crashed database please?
[08:28:35] <Splarka>	is some simple CSS plus injection of another (fixed pixel width) ad column
[08:29:51] <Silentrage>	A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
[08:29:51] <Silentrage>	    (SQL query hidden)
[08:29:51] <Silentrage>	from within function "Job::pop". MySQL returned error "1194: Table 'ic_job' is marked as crashed and should be repaired (localhost)".
[08:30:01] <brown_cat>	hey!
[08:30:08] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	iubito: The skin you use now is Monaco.css I guess. You might try and ask in #wikia
[08:30:16] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	Greetings brown_cat
[08:30:17] <brown_cat>	does anyone know of the logo at the top left of en.wikipedia.org ?
[08:31:16] <Splarka>	the logo placement or the logo image used on wikipedia?
[08:31:18] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikipedia-logo.png
[08:31:44] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	the one for en.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikipedia-logo-en.png
[08:31:50] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Logos_and_slogans#Logos
[08:32:12] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	I was about to post the same link as Splarka
[08:32:13] <iubito>	MnaNaHErean|busy> you speak about the skin on www.wikia/wiki/Accueil or on websites hosted by wikia which are monobook like with 3 columns (3rd is for ads)
[08:32:35] <Splarka>	try appending ?useskin=monobook to the wikia URLs
[08:32:42] <Splarka>	to see the 3 column monobook
[08:33:14] <brown_cat>	MnaNaHErean|busy: I mean the *actual* image location, not one that looks like it :)
[08:33:39] <iubito>	ok
[08:33:46] <Splarka>	it is in  <div class="portlet" id="p-logo">
[08:33:52] <Splarka>	and stuck on top with CSS
[08:35:04] <Silentrage>	please someone
[08:40:13] <iubito>	another question, I'm setting up a new wiki, using mysql5. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki talks about a corruption with latin1.
[08:40:19] <MnaNaHEreann>	brown_cat: I can't find it at the moment
[08:40:38] <iubito>	on the talk page, I asked my question, so if someone can reply. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:Backing_up_a_wiki#Corruption_Section_for_MySQL_4.1_is_unclear
[08:41:57] <Splarka>	brown_cat: you mean in the settings.. ? $wgLogo				= false; /// defaults to "{$wgStylePath}/common/images/wiki.png"
[08:46:42] <Silentrage>	how do i repair a database error?
[08:48:08] <iubito>	did you tried REPAIR TABLE yourTable or something like that?
[08:48:35] <Silentrage>	i trield the rebuild command
[08:55:59] <iubito>	i don't know this one
[09:00:56] <Silentrage>	| icamwiki.ic_job | repair | info     | Key 1 - Found wrong stored record at 815
[09:00:56] <Silentrage>	2 |
[09:00:56] <Silentrage>	| icamwiki.ic_job | repair | warning  | Number of rows changed from 45 to 0
[09:00:56] <Silentrage>	  |
[09:00:56] <Silentrage>	| icamwiki.ic_job | repair | status   | OK
[09:00:57] <Silentrage>	  |
[09:01:13] <Silentrage>	thanks
[09:02:28] <Silentrage>	Now back to mu original problem - my templates aren't being parsed properly
[09:30:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Categories need piping feature to list by alternative name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=491  +comment (10dan_the_man)
[09:30:33] <_wooz>	lo
[09:40:10] <windopain>	when i run phpinfo(); on my website the version is reported as 4.4.4; cPanel reports the same.  i just installed mediawiki and it says "PHP 5.2.2 installed" under "Checking environment..."  anyone know why this would be? 
[09:42:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Action summary is artificially truncated on history, contribs and RC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13200  +comment (10dan_the_man)
[09:43:25] <Silentrage>	how do I check if php DOM is turned on?
[09:43:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Numberlists are sometimes broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13208  +comment (10huji.huji)
[09:45:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Request Portal Namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13221   +shell (10guillom.pom)
[09:46:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Users should be able to resign using Special:Userrights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13217  (10huji.huji)
[09:50:33] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Site addresses include quotation mark - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13218  +comment (10minuteelectron)
[09:52:18] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Users should be able to resign using Special:Userrights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13217  +comment (10river)
[09:54:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Users should be able to resign using Special:Userrights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13217  (10huji.huji)
[09:54:11] <Hojjat>	siebrand: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13217
[09:59:40] <Silentrage>	why aren't these templates working properly?
[10:01:32] <Werdna>	brown_cat_: iinet, huh?
[10:01:49] <brown_cat_>	Werdna: no, ff crashed
[10:01:55] <brown_cat_>	piece of crap
[10:02:21] <Werdna>	and that's why you don't use chatzilla
[10:02:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Request Portal Namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13221  +comment (10minuteelectron)
[10:03:09] <brown_cat_>	Werdna: no, FF crashed, nothing to do with chatzilla 
[10:03:15] <Silentrage>	Werdna: My imported templates still don't show properly
[10:05:45] <Silentrage>	With some of them I think it's a problem with imagemap
[10:07:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Site name translated to Tamil (ta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13222   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[10:10:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Site addresses include quotation mark - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13218  +comment (10dan_the_man)
[10:11:21] <Silentrage>	....
[10:11:29] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Site name translated to Tamil (ta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13222  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[10:11:30] <soroush>	how long does mediawiki caches the pages on wikimedia websites?
[10:11:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikipedia namespaces are not translated in Language Ta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13220  (10raimond.spekking)
[10:12:23] <MinuteElectron>	soroush: however long it takes for it to be processed by the job queue
[10:13:03] <soroush>	MinuteElectron, so when we change a template it takes some time to see its changes
[10:13:23] <MinuteElectron>	yes
[10:13:48] <soroush>	it looks it has a limited time :O:-) how long is it? 
[10:14:26] <MinuteElectron>	however long it takes
[10:14:44] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Allow blank lines between list items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13223 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (tstarling)
[10:14:57] <Silentrage>	Hold shift and click refresh to flush your cache
[10:15:29] <Silentrage>	Guys it also looks like mine is not processing div tags correctly
[10:15:36] <Silentrage>	How do I correct this?
[10:15:37] <soroush>	Silentrage, it'd not my cache
[10:15:45] <soroush>	it's mediawiki's cache
[10:16:02] <Silentrage>	ok
[10:16:47] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Site addresses include quotation mark - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13218  +comment (10minuteelectron)
[10:16:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Set Wikipedia namespace for ta.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13220  summary; +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[10:17:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Serial no. generator (#) doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13194  (10tstarling)
[10:18:59] <soroush>	i think there was a system variable forced cache prevention
[10:19:29] <Nikerabbit>	which cache?
[10:20:04] <soroush>	Nikerabbit, disabling mediawiki cache for a special page so fixing templates would be easier
[10:21:25] <Silentrage>	Have you tried running one of the maintenace scripts to update it?
[10:22:18] *soroush 	there was none http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Variables /
[10:23:02] <Silentrage>	rebuildrecentchanges.php or one of the others
[10:23:21] <Splarka>	soroush, you could use an extesion to make such a tag, see what RandomSelection does
[10:23:40] <Splarka>	but the core purposefully doesn't, as caching is important
[10:23:46] <Silentrage>	Someone please help me fix these templates
[10:24:29] <soroush>	Splarka, thanks. you're right
[10:24:40] <soroush>	Silentrage, which templates?
[10:25:24] <Silentrage>	I imported some from wikipedia and mediawiki but some of the code is visible on the pages and overlapping
[10:25:54] <soroush>	Silentrage, i had that problem before
[10:26:09] <Splarka>	!tidy
[10:26:09] --mwbot--	For more information about HTML Tidy, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseTidy>.
[10:26:12] <soroush>	I tried to solve the problem with tidy and there
[10:26:21] <soroush>	was something in mediawiki 
[10:26:25] <Silentrage>	I already installed tidy
[10:26:32] <soroush>	but it made me some more problems
[10:26:39] <soroush>	silentrage, you should
[10:26:45] <soroush>	change the tidy
[10:26:48] <soroush>	configuration
[10:26:58] <soroush>	there was a guide somewhere
[10:27:06] <soroush>	in mediawiki talk pages
[10:27:13] <soroush>	but I had tried it too
[10:27:27] <soroush>	it displaced other things in the page
[10:27:36] <Silentrage>	I did edit the tidy conf like it said in one of the talk pages but no improvements
[10:28:26] <soroush>	Silentrage, if you change each template manually it will eventually work
[10:28:36] <Silentrage>	Yeah...
[10:28:45] <Silentrage>	That's exactly what I am trying to avoid
[10:29:08] <Silentrage>	That would defeat the purpose of me importing the templates in the first place
[10:29:26] <soroush>	anyway, I've had that problem for more than a year, If you could find a solution I'll get happy to know it, silentrage
[10:29:50] <Silentrage>	Well that's why I'm in #mediawiki
[10:30:45] <soroush>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:%24wgUseTidy you have already seen this , haven't you?
[10:31:23] <Silentrage>	yes
[10:32:06] <Silentrage>	I'm playing with it again
[10:32:09] <soroush>	it worked for me. I'm not sure if i hadn't poke it myself too but 
[10:32:28] <soroush>	it displaced the above list page/talk/history/...
[10:32:36] <Splarka>	if possible, make a minimal test case of the problem
[10:33:20] <MnaNaHEreann>	I have a question concerning $wgNamespacesWithSubpages
[10:33:53] <Silentrage>	Where do  Iset it to point to this location:$wgTidyConf ?
[10:34:03] <soroush>	MnaNaHEreann, just ask the question
[10:34:46] <MnaNaHEreann>	well, why isn't it enabled by default?
[10:35:26] <soroush>	MnaNaHEreann, it isn't enabled?
[10:35:57] <MnaNaHEreann>	only all talk pages and the user name space have it enabled by default
[10:36:30] <MnaNaHEreann>	why is is disabled in e.g. the main namespace, by default?
[10:37:31] <soroush>	MnaNaHEreann, because it's evil for main namespaces
[10:37:36] <MnaNaHEreann>	Why?
[10:37:55] <soroush>	you might need / in the article name
[10:38:10] <MnaNaHEreann>	oh
[10:38:29] <MnaNaHEreann>	so nothing bad about enabling it when you don't use special characters in the article name? :)
[10:38:56] <soroush>	MnaNaHEreann, no you might need it on your own installation
[10:38:56] <Splarka>	well
[10:39:22] <MnaNaHEreann>	What do you mean?
[10:39:30] <Silentrage>	Still doesn't work
[10:39:33] <Splarka>	all it mostly does for the client side is add a backlink if the "parent" page exists, as well as enable using {{SUBPAGENAME}} and {{BASEPAGENAME}} type magicwords
[10:39:56] <Splarka>	compare:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC/DC  vs  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:AC/DC
[10:40:06] <MnaNaHEreann>	and I'd like to use those, so came to the conclusion that I had to enable the subpages
[10:40:09] <Silentrage>	sorous: And why are my imagemap tags visible?
[10:40:10] <Splarka>	note the contentSub backlink to [[Talk:AC]]
[10:41:01] <MnaNaHEreann>	ah, yes. well, on my wiki, we have pages like [[Article/de]] for the german version of it
[10:41:47] <MnaNaHEreann>	And to show an easier language template, all over the site (which I still haven't been able to do) I need to detect if the subpage viewed = de :)
[10:42:04] <Splarka>	so would be useful yah
[10:42:21] <MnaNaHEreann>	okay, thanks soroush & Splarka
[10:42:44] <Silentrage>	imagemap not working
[10:42:52] <soroush>	MnaNaHEreann,np
[10:42:59] <Splarka>	{{#ifexist:{{PAGENAME}}/de|yes|no}}  (with ParserFunctions)
[10:43:01] <MnaNaHEreann>	Then I come to my next question, which I still haven't found a solution to. I want to view that template which I named, on all pages in the wiki
[10:43:03] <Splarka>	Silentrage: got that extension installed?
[10:43:12] <Silentrage>	Splarka, yes
[10:43:23] <MnaNaHEreann>	Splarka, I have that on the article page, but also need a link back to the english version
[10:43:38] <MnaNaHEreann>	Though if I understand correfctly, that automatically shows up with subpages enabled
[10:43:38] <soroush>	Silentrage, image tags ? <img you mean?
[10:43:52] <Splarka>	MnaNaHEreann: right, subpages are for you then ^_^
[10:44:10] <Splarka>	if the base page exists, yes
[10:44:28] <Splarka>	[[Foo/bar]] won't link to < [[Foo]] if that page doesn't exist, for example
[10:44:49] <MnaNaHEreann>	oh.. well, then I'll add an ifexist basenamepage blablabla
[10:44:53] <Silentrage>	<imagemap> </imagemap>
[10:45:19] <MnaNaHEreann>	but I need  to find a way to let that template show up, on all created pages in the wiki
[10:45:35] <MnaNaHEreann>	Sitenotice isn't an option
[10:46:21] <MnaNaHEreann>	Extension:PageNotice isn't either (beta and awful bugs on my wiki)
[10:46:50] <MnaNaHEreann>	and I don't know how to get the template working in Mediawiki:Tagline either
[10:46:56] <MnaNaHEreann>	Anny help? :)
[10:48:15] <Splarka>	MnaNaHEreann: what? I thought it did what you wanted automatically?
[10:48:24] *Splarka 	confused
[10:48:38] <MnaNaHEreann>	yes the template works, when enabling the subpages in main
[10:48:43] <soroush>	Silentrage
[10:48:51] <MnaNaHEreann>	but I need to automatically show the template on all pages in the wiki
[10:48:53] <soroush>	because you haven't installed http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap
[10:49:32] <soroush>	see the special:Version of you departure wiki
[10:49:44] <Silentrage>	I installed it already
[10:49:49] <soroush>	you expect something on another wiki to work 
[10:50:04] <soroush>	so what is the problem now?
[10:50:22] <Splarka>	MnaNaHEreann: what does this template do exactly? link to subpages or parent pages?
[10:50:29] <Silentrage>	Hang on I will paste
[10:51:15] <MnaNaHEreann>	I'll show you
[10:52:01] <Silentrage>	oh that's right. ImageMap extensions generates a log file all over all of my pages now
[10:52:08] <MnaNaHEreann>	Splarka: http://86.80.42.68/wi/index.php/Template:Languages
[10:53:54] <soroush>	Silentrage, generates a log file?
[10:54:03] <MnaNaHEreann>	Splarka: I haven't changed thhe template to work with subpages yet
[10:55:19] <Silentrage>	Yes the entire page is covers in recentchanges logs instead of the actual wiki material
[10:56:02] <Silentrage>	If I comment out the imagemap require once line from local settings.php it goes back to normal
[10:56:20] <Silentrage>	And I am using the stable version of the extension
[10:58:05] <soroush>	Silentrage, so i donnu
[10:59:15] <Splarka>	MnaNaHEreann: ahh k, you could have just said, heh
[10:59:35] <MnaNaHEreann>	eeh
[10:59:52] <Splarka>	anyway, you might need to write a custom extension to hook in such a template
[11:00:17] <MnaNaHEreann>	ah, eeh, how? ^^'
[11:00:31] <Splarka>	no idea, involves php (whatever that is)
[11:00:39] <MnaNaHEreann>	=p
[11:00:49] <MnaNaHEreann>	well, I tried this extension:
[11:00:53] <Splarka>	the sidebar and sitenotice aren't good candidates as things like pagename and namespace aren't usually cached per page properly
[11:00:55] *Duesentrieb 	slaps Splarka with a chunk of web 2.0
[11:01:06] <MnaNaHEreann>	http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageNotice
[11:01:08] <Splarka>	what does php have to do with "2.0" buzzwordy?
[11:01:18] <Splarka>	2.0 is all about ajax and spamming your friends and making some guy rich
[11:02:04] *MnaNaHEreann 	grins
[11:02:37] <MnaNaHEreann>	Duesentrieb, I still haven't found a way to show the template on all pages in my wiki :|
[11:02:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow blank lines between list items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13223  +comment (10dan_the_man)
[11:03:02] <Splarka>	ask n people what the definition of "Web 2.0" is, and you get 2^(n-1) * sin(n/x) * pi definitions
[11:03:07] <FreddyE>	In our private wiki, we need a way to make pages only editable by the user who created the page. Is this somehow possible? Maybe via a change in php? I would really appreciate if someone could help me.
[11:03:52] <Duesentrieb>	!cms | FreddyE
[11:03:52] --mwbot--	FreddyE: You are advised to install an appropriate content management package if you want per-page access control and similar restrictions. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Page_specific_user_rights_extensions> if you really want too. 
[11:04:40] <Duesentrieb>	also...
[11:04:43] <Duesentrieb>	!wiki | FreddyE
[11:04:43] --mwbot--	FreddyE: A wiki is a collaborative website which can be directly edited by anyone with access to it. Ward Cunningham, developer of the first wiki WikiWikiWeb, originally described it as "the simplest online database that could possibly work". Wikipedia is one of the best known wikis.
[11:06:05] <MnaNaHEreann>	So, Splarka, Duesentrieb, can you help me?
[11:06:28] <Duesentrieb>	MnaNaHEreann: if you write my thesis for me in the mean time :)
[11:06:55] <MnaNaHEreann>	hmm
[11:07:07] <Werdna>	Duesentrieb: what's the thesis on?
[11:07:10] *Silentrage 	sighs
[11:07:48] <MnaNaHEreann>	Duesentrieb, letting me do it will be the same as taking it from wikipedia ;p
[11:08:12] <Duesentrieb>	Werdna: extracting a multilingual thesaurus from wikipedia.
[11:08:15] <Duesentrieb>	Werdna: http://brightbyte.de/page/WikiWord
[11:09:04] <Duesentrieb>	MnaNaHEreann: i doubt wikipedia has it. it's not a term paper. it's a master's thesis.
[11:09:12] <Werdna>	Duesentrieb: impressive.
[11:09:24] <Duesentrieb>	Werdna: if i ever manage to finish it :)
[11:09:47] *Duesentrieb 	has enotehr 8 weeks max. should be finished with the "real" work in 4. that will not be easy.
[11:10:11] <MnaNaHEreann>	=o
[11:11:51] <MnaNaHEreann>	If you can't, who is able to help me then? I see like 5 people talking while there's 180 in this channel
[11:12:09] <Silentrage>	Yes pleas someone help us...
[11:12:09] <Werdna>	MnaNaHEreann: people idle
[11:12:11] <CIA-43>	03grondin * r31449 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (6 files): Localisation updates for extensions messages from Betawiki
[11:12:12] <Werdna>	what's the problem?
[11:12:37] <Silentrage>	Werdna can you help me with the issue we were discussing earlier?
[11:12:45] <MnaNaHEreann>	I'm trying to get a temlate showing up on all articles in my wiki
[11:13:00] <MnaNaHEreann>	I have namespaceswithsubpage enabled
[11:13:20] <MnaNaHEreann>	because I use magic words in the template
[11:13:44] <MnaNaHEreann>	It shows a link to [[Article]] and [[Article/de]]
[11:13:47] <Werdna>	Silentrage: I'll have a look. Sorry, I got sidetracked - my own setup blew up
[11:13:52] <Duesentrieb>	MnaNaHEreann: the latter is not relevant. and maybe you shouldn't think of it as a "template" at all. try modifying dsystem messages. there are some that are shown on every page.
[11:14:02] <Silentrage>	That sucks, sorry to hear that
[11:14:13] <Duesentrieb>	MnaNaHEreann: however, if and in how far extension tags work in them is a different question. thexy might not.
[11:14:34] <Duesentrieb>	Silentrage: what problem?
[11:14:53] <Werdna>	Silentrage: what version of MW?
[11:15:09] <Silentrage>	Imported templates do not show up correctly - version 1.11
[11:15:40] <Silentrage>	I also loaded the imagemap extension and that messes everything up when loaded
[11:15:59] <Silentrage>	And it's teh 'stable' version
[11:16:02] <Silentrage>	the
[11:16:07] <MnaNaHEreann>	Duesentrieb: okay, so what should I do?
[11:16:20] <Duesentrieb>	Silentrage: imported from wikipedia? do you have parserfunctions isntalled? do you have tidy enabled?
[11:16:44] <Silentrage>	Yes and yes
[11:17:06] <Duesentrieb>	MnaNaHEreann: look for some text that shows on every page (the footer, for example). Find that text on Special:Allmessages. edit the corrsponding message.
[11:17:21] <Duesentrieb>	Silentrage: got an example?
[11:17:52] <MnaNaHEreann>	Duesentrieb: Okay, I'll try
[11:18:08] <Werdna>	Silentrage: hmm
[11:18:19] <Werdna>	Silentrage: what version of MW are you running?
[11:18:48] <Silentrage>	1.11
[11:18:59] <Duesentrieb>	Silentrage: no link?
[11:19:15] <Silentrage>	No link, but I can paste the code
[11:19:23] <Duesentrieb>	no use
[11:19:39] <Silentrage>	Parser function hooks
[11:19:39] <Silentrage>	categorytree, if, ifeq, switch, ifexist, ifexpr, iferror, expr, time, timel, rel2abs, titleparts, int, ns, urlencode, lcfirst, ucfirst, lc, uc, localurl, localurle, fullurl, fullurle, formatnum, grammar, plural, numberofpages, numberofusers, numberofarticles, numberoffiles, numberofadmins, numberofedits, language, padleft, padright, anchorencode, special, defaultsort and displaytitle
[11:20:21] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	s
[11:20:29] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	(sorry)
[11:24:09] <Silentrage>	So...
[11:31:13] <Werdna>	I wonder if that stuff's included in later versions..
[11:31:32] <Werdna>	cause I couldn't find the functions you're after in the extensions directory
[11:31:53] <Werdna>	mediawiki-extensions]$ find -name \*.php | xargs grep -i anchorencode
[11:32:46] <Silentrage>	hmm
[11:33:03] *Werdna 	has a look in the sauce
[11:33:32] <Werdna>	use the sauce, etc
[11:34:05] <Silentrage>	huh?
[11:34:16] <Werdna>	./includes/CoreParserFunctions.php:     static function anchorencode( $parser, $text ) {
[11:34:25] <Werdna>	$ svn blame includes/CoreParserFunctions.php | grep anchorencode
[11:34:33] <Werdna>	 31113  tstarling               $parser->setFunctionHook( 'anchorencode',     array( __CLASS__, 'anchorencode'     ), SFH_NO_HASH );
[11:34:36] <Werdna>	 17987      nickj       static function anchorencode( $parser, $text ) {
[11:34:42] <Werdna>	checking what r17987 is
[11:35:06] <Werdna>	Prevent the following strict-standards warnings - i.e. when running with error_logging(E_ALL | E_STRICT); - which seems to disable the yucky "@" operator, as well as maxing out the pedantry of warnings. Nothing major found, just nice to be as explicit and as forward-compatible as possible.
[11:36:29] <Werdna>	1.11 was post-november 2006
[11:36:40] <Werdna>	so the parser function exists in your version
[11:37:06] <Werdna>	Silentrage: can you look in CoreParserFunctions.php for a static function anchorencode?
[11:37:17] <Silentrage>	ok
[11:38:23] <Splarka>	hmmm
[11:38:33] <Silentrage>	there are several of them in there
[11:39:02] <Splarka>	$this->getDb()->escapeLike(ApiQueryBase::titleToKey($this->userprefix)) . "%'");
[11:39:33] *Splarka 	wonders how to encode a space using &ucuserprefix in the API, %20, %2520, _, and + don't work
[11:40:23] <Silentrage>	Which one am I looking for?
[11:40:48] <Werdna>	Silentrage: several lines with static function anchorencode( $parser, $text ) ?
[11:41:55] <Silentrage>	static function anchorencode( $parser, $text ) {
[11:41:55] <Silentrage>			$a = urlencode( $text );
[11:41:55] <Silentrage>			$a = strtr( $a, array( '%' => '.', '+' => '_' ) );
[11:41:55] <Silentrage>			# leave colons alone, however
[11:41:55] <Silentrage>			$a = str_replace( '.3A', ':', $a );
[11:41:56] <Silentrage>			return $a;
[11:41:58] <Silentrage>		}
[11:42:55] <Silentrage>	nm the other one is static function special parser text
[11:43:28] <Werdna>	right, so it exists
[11:43:39] <Werdna>	why wouldn't it show up in your parser function hooks?
[11:43:41] <Werdna>	oh wait, it does
[11:43:44] <Werdna>	my bad
[11:44:06] *Werdna 	greps for switch
[11:47:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow blank lines between list items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13223  (10tstarling)
[11:48:49] <Werdna>	hmm, no results
[11:49:04] <Werdna>	I wonder where that function is defined..
[11:49:16] <Silentrage>	uh
[11:50:17] <Werdna>	hmm
[11:50:18] <Werdna>	./ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.php:  function switchHook( &$parser /*,...*/ ) {
[11:50:22] <Werdna>	I don't think that's it
[11:51:07] <Werdna>	actually, I think it is
[11:51:12] <Werdna>	reading the sauce.
[11:51:46] <Werdna>	still looks to be pre-1.11
[11:51:56] <Werdna>	oh, it's the extension anyway
[11:52:05] <Werdna>	can you check for that function in your ParserFunctions.php?
[11:53:31] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	How to use wikitext in php?
[11:53:54] <Werdna>	in your own application?
[11:54:16] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	what do you mean?
[11:54:48] <Werdna>	well, do you want to use it in your own php app?
[11:54:55] <Werdna>	or in the MediaWiki source code?
[11:56:02] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	in mediawiki
[11:57:19] <Werdna>	$wgOut->addWikitext
[11:57:50] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	so what do I use for '''Foo''' ?
[11:59:55] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	Werdna: $wgOut->addWikitext and then?
[12:00:05] <Werdna>	well, it's a function.
[12:00:08] <Werdna>	What are you trying to do?
[12:00:42] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	to get wiki text to show up on all pages on the wiki, still the same
[12:01:16] <Nikerabbit>	hello
[12:01:29] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	hi :)
[12:01:47] <Werdna>	ah, well $wgOut->addWikiText( $yourtext );
[12:01:54] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	okay, thanks
[12:01:54] <Werdna>	where $yourtext contains the text to add
[12:04:22] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	uhm, where can I find the siteSub (MediaWiki:Tagline) in the source code?
[12:04:40] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	Then I'll try to put my code there
[12:05:35] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	I mean, just like you can set the sitenotice both in LocalSettings.php and in MediaWiki
[12:06:14] <Werdna>	skins/Monobook.php
[12:06:17] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	but then for the little line underneath the title (From Meta on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page)
[12:06:22] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	Okay
[12:14:35] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	Werdna: eeh.. what should I change the<div id="contentSub"><?php $this->html('subtitle') ?></div> to (line 103)? what I tried gave me this on the wiki: Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_CONSTANT_ENCAPSED_STRING in D:\xampp\htdocs\wi\skins\MonoBook.php on line 103
[12:15:17] *MnaNaHErean|busy 	doesn't know what to say
[12:15:34] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	Anyone can help?
[12:16:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) API pretty printer should not include double quotes in hyperlinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13218  summary; +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[12:29:54] <quentin>	$wgUploadNavigationUrl does definitely have no effect! how comes?
[12:32:13] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	Anyone here to help me? I can't get wikitext to show up (editing the sourcecode), I get Fatal error: Call to a member function addWikiText() on a non-object in D:\xampp\htdocs\wi\skins\MonoBook.php on line 103
[12:32:40] <quentin>	The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver. <- this is the error I get. But the directory IS writable in my english wiki, so this means that it does not use the english wiki for uploading.
[12:36:00] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	soroush :D
[12:36:06] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	finally a none-inactive
[12:36:24] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	quentin & I are having trouble, can you help us out?
[12:36:26] <soroush>	MnaNaHErean, I'm back
[12:36:41] <soroush>	sure if i can
[12:36:56] <quentin>	okay, i'll repeat my problem:
[12:37:02] <quentin>	$wgUploadNavigationUrl does definitely have no effect! how comes?
[12:37:05] <quentin>	The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver. <- this is the error I get. But the directory IS writable in my english wiki, so this means that it does not use the english wiki for uploading.
[12:38:13] <soroush>	$wgUploadNavigationUrl if it is set true then upload file will be shown in navigation
[12:38:21] <soroush>	bar even if 
[12:38:28] <soroush>	upload is disabled
[12:38:47] <soroush>	you can see the detailed information in manual
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[12:39:07] <soroush>	!Manual
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[12:39:16] <soroush>	!wgUploadNavigationUrl
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[12:39:42] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	Well then
[12:40:11] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	I'm trying to get wikitext inbetween the <h3 id="siteSub"></h3> in skins/monobook.php
[12:40:39] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	<h3 id="siteSub"><?php $wgOut->addWikiText( foo ) ?></h3> does not work
[12:40:51] <soroush>	it shouldn't work
[12:41:21] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	what should? :-)
[12:41:30] <soroush>	you should directly use some html text or use sth else I can't remember there
[12:41:41] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	msg
[12:41:44] <soroush>	let me see my previous skins written
[12:41:56] <soroush>	no matter to msg but
[12:42:03] <soroush>	if you say here others 
[12:42:17] <soroush>	will guide you if i'll be wrong too
[12:42:47] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	$this->html('foo')   or   $this->msg('foo')   work, but they don't show wikitext
[12:43:22] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	html doesn't allow magic words that change by content of the page and msg does, but doesn't show any other wikiformatting
[12:49:51] <soroush>	use $wgOut->parse
[12:49:53] <soroush>	()
[12:49:55] <soroush>	instead
[12:50:07] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	okay
[12:50:23] <MnaNaHErean|busy>	is there any way to let it show the contents of a page in the wiki?
[12:50:25] <soroush>	MnaNaHErean|busy, I can't remember why it didn't work
[13:03:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Set Wikipedia namespace for ta.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13220  +comment (10trengarasu)
[13:07:35] <Filnik>	VasilievVV: are you here? :)
[13:13:10] <darkstorm^>	hi people
[13:15:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Request Portal Namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13221  (10trengarasu)
[13:19:51] <Higdur>	Hey, I'm having problems running the update.php script when upgrading to 1.11.1
[13:20:52] <Higdur>	first I get some warnings
[13:20:55] <Higdur>	PHP Warning:  array_shift() [<a href='function.array-shift'>function.array-shift</a>]: The argument should be an array in /.../wiki/maintenance/commandLine.inc on line 39
[13:20:55] <Higdur>	PHP Warning:  reset() [<a href='function.reset'>function.reset</a>]: Passed variable is not an array or object in /.../wiki/maintenance/commandLine.inc on line 49
[13:21:16] <Higdur>	then it pastes the contents of my AdminSettings.php
[13:21:33] <Higdur>	then this message:
[13:21:33] <Higdur>	No superuser credentials could be found. Please provide the details
[13:21:33] <Higdur>	of a user with appropriate permissions to update the database. See
[13:21:33] <Higdur>	AdminSettings.sample for more details.
[13:21:54] <|VasilievVV|>	Filnik: yes, but i won't be there soom
[13:21:56] <|VasilievVV|>	*soon
[13:22:11] <Filnik>	|VasilievVV|: problem solved 2 seconds ago :)
[13:22:21] <Higdur>	my AdminSettings.php contains the username and password for my mySQL database
[13:23:04] <Filnik>	VasilievVV: uhm, not. Can you tell me in which pages appear badtitle (if you know)? :)
[13:23:15] <Higdur>	any hints about what I\m doing wrong?
[13:23:34] <VasilievVV>	In pages that contain invalid symbols, or are empty
[13:23:51] <VasilievVV>	it's somewhere in Title.php
[13:24:13] <Filnik>	ok
[13:24:23] <Higdur>	oops, nm, I fixed it :)
[13:24:58] <VasilievVV>	Filnik: $wgLegalTitleChars = " %!\"$&'()*,\\-.\\/0-9:;=?@A-Z\\\\^_`a-z~\\x80-\\xFF+";
[13:25:07] <Filnik>	ok :)
[13:25:29] <Filnik>	VasilievVV: and is it possible to add a <class badtitle> or something to identify it via bot? :)
[13:25:50] <VasilievVV>	Try to check it via API?
[13:25:59] <Filnik>	VasilievVV: howTo? :)
[13:26:11] *Filnik 	still noob with API :(
[13:26:58] <VasilievVV>	Filnik: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=aa[
[13:27:58] <Filnik>	VasilievVV: ok :)
[13:36:03] <CIA-43>	03nikerabbit * r31450 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (README fuzzy.php): * Fupport for --comment and --skiplanguages in fuzzy.php
[13:37:38] <CIA-43>	03nikerabbit * r31451 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * Some performance and validity tweaks
[13:38:28] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Some template conjunctions is not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13224 normal; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (galder158)
[13:47:20] <Werdna>	MediaWiki translation is pretty good for extensions
[13:47:30] <Werdna>	Invitations is now translated into languages I've never even heard of
[13:47:56] <MnaNaHEreann>	Hello, I've put  <h3 id="siteSub"><?php $tttt=$wgOut->pa rse ("[[sthwiki]]"); echo $tttt;  ?></h3> on line 103 in /skins/MonoBook.php but I get Fatal error: Call to a member function parse() on a non-object in D:\xampp\htdocs\wi\skins\MonoBook.php on line 103
[13:48:29] <MnaNaHEreann>	Werdna can you help me out? (you were the one helping me out but you vanished :P)
[13:48:40] <Werdna>	MnaNaHEreann: what's teh question?
[13:48:57] <MnaNaHEreann>	What I've done wrong
[13:49:08] <TimStarling>	you have no global $wgOut;
[13:49:19] <MnaNaHEreann>	What should it be?
[13:49:50] <TimStarling>	global $wgOut;
[13:50:12] <Werdna>	and then the $wgOut->addWikitext...
[13:50:37] <MnaNaHEreann>	can you paste that for me in the code I pasted? (I'm kind of a newb)
[13:50:49] <TimStarling>	well, that wouldn't work
[13:51:18] <TimStarling>	he wants to inject the HTML into some random place in the skin
[13:51:50] <Werdna>	mmm, in siteSub
[13:51:55] <MnaNaHEreann>	no, I want to inject wikiformatted text into the skin, on the place where normally there'd be MediaWiki:Tagline
[13:52:24] <MnaNaHEreann>	Ye, siteSub
[13:55:49] <TimStarling>	<h3 id="siteSub"><?php global $wgOut; $tttt=$wgOut->parse ("[[sthwiki]]"); echo $tttt;  ?></h3>
[13:57:18] <MnaNaHEreann>	That worked
[13:57:26] <MnaNaHEreann>	Thanks, I've been looking for this for 2 days :p
[13:58:09] <CIA-43>	03catrope * r31452 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
[13:58:09] <CIA-43>	* (bug 13218) Fix inclusion of " character in hyperlinks
[13:58:09] <CIA-43>	* Using preg_replace rather than ereg_replace in formatHTML() (faster according to php.net)
[13:58:09] <CIA-43>	* Correcting grammatical error in Title::userIsWatching() description
[13:58:57] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) API pretty printer should not include double quotes in hyperlinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13218  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[14:00:47] <MnaNaHEreann>	Werdna / TimStarling: it worked, as in, I see my wiki again without error. but I don't see 'sthwiki' on the pake
[14:00:51] <MnaNaHEreann>	on the page*
[14:01:23] <TimStarling>	force refresh
[14:01:27] <MnaNaHEreann>	done
[14:01:30] <MnaNaHEreann>	also purged
[14:01:57] <MnaNaHEreann>	tried adding and deleting #siteSub { display:inline; } in MediaWiki:Common.css
[14:02:11] <Werdna>	does the siteSub actually appear?
[14:02:29] <MnaNaHEreann>	no it doesn't
[14:02:29] <MnaNaHEreann>	that's what I just said
[14:02:29] <TimStarling>	that's kind of unrelated
[14:02:33] <MnaNaHEreann>	(sthwiki)
[14:02:39] <MnaNaHEreann>	?
[14:02:49] <Werdna>	you said the text you added doesn't appear
[14:03:00] <Werdna>	not that the siteSub itself ("from someWiki") doesn't appear
[14:03:14] <MnaNaHEreann>	oh
[14:03:22] <MnaNaHEreann>	well, in the source code of my browser it says
[14:03:25] <MnaNaHEreann>	<h3 id="siteSub"><p><a href="/wi/index.php?title=Sthwiki&amp;action=edit" class="new" title="Sthwiki">sthwiki</a>
[14:03:28] <MnaNaHEreann>	</p></h3>
[14:03:37] <Werdna>	is your wiki public?
[14:03:53] <MnaNaHEreann>	its local, but you can see it here: http://86.80.42.68/wi/index.php/Main_Page
[14:04:34] <MnaNaHEreann>	yey it worked
[14:04:55] <MnaNaHEreann>	now I have <h3 id="siteSub"><?php global $wgOut;$tttt=$wgOut->parse ("sthwiki"); echo $tttt;  ?></h3
[14:04:59] <MnaNaHEreann>	I removed the [[]]
[14:08:15] <MnaNaHEreann>	If you take a look: http://86.80.42.68/wi You can see what I've been working on all week, a template that shows up on all pages on the wiki :D
[14:09:44] <MnaNaHEreann>	Duesentrieb, Werdna, soroush and TimStarling Thanks to you all
[14:14:56] <CIA-43>	03catrope * r31453 10/trunk/phase3/ (docs/hooks.txt includes/SpecialListusers.php): (bug 12542) Adding a bunch of hooks to SpecialListusers.php, modified patch by Daniel Friesen
[14:15:23] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Add hooks to SpecialListusers.php to allow for expansion of it' s use, without hacking core. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12542  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[14:36:02] <Nikerabbit>	arfg
[14:36:13] <Nikerabbit>	how did I manage to typo Fupport for Support
[14:51:55] <charliecb>	hi
[14:52:26] <charliecb>	i have installed mediawiki and i want to translate a page of my own wiki. is there any iq8n function?
[14:53:04] <charliecb>	now all my articles are in german but i want to translate them to english..
[14:53:18] <charliecb>	has anybody a good howto?
[14:55:17] <Duesentrieb>	charliecb: mediawiki is not too good for on-wiki multilingual text. on wikimedia, you typically have one wiki per language, with cross-links.
[14:55:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Section edit conflict expands edit box to entire article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4745  (10e.wikipedia)
[14:55:52] <Duesentrieb>	charliecb: here's a bunch of extensions that may help you: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Internationalization_extensions
[14:56:27] <charliecb>	Duesentrieb: thx
[14:57:27] <Higdur>	I'm having problems with thumbnail creation
[14:57:40] <Higdur>	I get the following error message:
[14:57:44] <Higdur>	Warning: exec() [function.exec]: Unable to fork ['/usr/bin/convert' -background white -size 300 '/home/www/integralmanagement.org/wiki/images/c/c8/Test15.gif' -coalesce -thumbnail '300x225!' -depth 8 '/home/www/integralmanagement.org/wiki/images/thumb/c/c8/Test15.gif/300px-Test15.gif' 2>&1] in /home/www/integralmanagement.org/wiki/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 1812
[14:58:22] <Higdur>	If I ssh to the server and run the command myself it works fine and the thumb is created
[14:58:48] <Duesentrieb>	Higdur: does it say anything about safemode?
[14:58:53] <Higdur>	but for some reason the wiki cannot execute it
[14:59:05] <Higdur>	Duesentrieb: that is the entire message
[14:59:12] <Duesentrieb>	well, it also depends under what user id the php code runs, and how pathes are set, etc
[14:59:14] <Higdur>	except Error generating thumbnail
[14:59:14] <Higdur>	Error creating thumbnail: 
[14:59:18] <Higdur>	at the end
[14:59:28] <Duesentrieb>	Higdur: and check for safemode anyway. use phpinfo
[14:59:49] <Higdur>	I'll check
[15:00:05] <Duesentrieb>	also check for restrictions imposed by selinux
[15:00:38] <Higdur>	I don't have that much control over the server as it is being run by a hosting company
[15:00:48] <Higdur>	but it used to work fine
[15:01:26] <Higdur>	Duesentrieb: safemode is off
[15:02:36] <Duesentrieb>	Higdur: make a php file that contains only <?php passthru("that command up there"); ?>
[15:02:40] <Duesentrieb>	call it from your browser
[15:02:43] <Duesentrieb>	see what happens
[15:03:04] <Higdur>	will do
[15:06:54] <Higdur>	Duesentrieb: just the shell command or with exec() too?
[15:07:09] <Duesentrieb>	passthru is exec, basically
[15:07:12] <Higdur>	ok
[15:07:18] <Duesentrieb>	it just passes the programs output diurectly to the browser
[15:07:33] <Higdur>	Duesentrieb: I got no output, but no file was created, so I assume it didn't work
[15:07:46] <Duesentrieb>	o_O
[15:08:00] <Duesentrieb>	add 2>&1 to the command
[15:08:08] <Duesentrieb>	i.e. capture stderr
[15:08:13] <Higdur>	it's allready there
[15:08:25] <Duesentrieb>	oh. uh, that's quite odd.
[15:08:51] <Duesentrieb>	try something that should definitely work. like ls -l /usr/bin/convert
[15:08:59] <Duesentrieb>	or whoami
[15:09:59] <Duesentrieb>	you can also capture the return code
[15:10:19] <Duesentrieb>	passthru("...", $code); print "CODE: $code";
[15:10:26] <Higdur>	I still just get a blank page
[15:10:33] <Duesentrieb>	even for ls?
[15:10:40] <Duesentrieb>	uh... wait...
[15:10:50] <Higdur>	I ran whoami
[15:10:58] <Duesentrieb>	add this also: 
[15:10:59] <Duesentrieb>	error_reporting(E_ALL);
[15:10:59] <Duesentrieb>	ini_set("display_errors", 1);
[15:11:03] <Duesentrieb>	before the passthru
[15:11:12] <Duesentrieb>	otherwise, php errors will probably not be shown
[15:11:46] <Higdur>	ah
[15:12:01] <Higdur>	anyway, adding in the return code I get -1 from whoami
[15:13:18] <Duesentrieb>	-1 ?! that sounds evil.
[15:13:42] <Higdur>	indeed
[15:13:59] <Higdur>	Warning: passthru() [function.passthru]: Unable to fork [whoami] in /home/www/integralmanagement.org/wiki/test.php on line 6
[15:13:59] <Higdur>	CODE: -1
[15:14:32] <Higdur>	seems to be something screwed up with the php settings I guess?
[15:15:18] <Duesentrieb>	php probably refuses to run that. 
[15:15:28] <MnaNaHEreann>	Duesentrieb: Extern adres: http://86.80.42.68/wi/index.php/Template:SideSub It works ^_^
[15:15:52] <MnaNaHEreann>	Duesentrieb: Extern adres: http://86.80.42.68/wi/index.php/Template:SiteSub It works ^_^ (with a T :P)
[15:16:33] <Higdur>	Duesentrieb: same error with ls
[15:16:48] <Duesentrieb>	Higdur: have you turned on the error reporting stuff?
[15:16:58] <Higdur>	yes
[15:17:02] <Duesentrieb>	huh
[15:17:15] <Duesentrieb>	Higdur: ok, you now have a convenient test case. ask your hosting people :)
[15:17:27] <Higdur>	yeah, I will
[15:17:49] <Higdur>	they complained about not knowing the code before :)
[15:18:13] <Duesentrieb>	MnaNaHEreann: uh, to linclude links to other language versions of the same page, you could just use the polyglot extension...
[15:18:41] *IceGuest_7 	needs help
[15:18:47] <Duesentrieb>	Higdur: that's why breaking it down helps. no excused :)
[15:18:56] <Duesentrieb>	IceGuest_7: ask a question, then
[15:19:03] <IceGuest_7>	OK
[15:19:09] <IceGuest_7>	Here is my question
[15:20:18] <IceGuest_7>	How do you sychnronize a copy of MediaWiki from a server online to your computer so that you have a copy of the wiki that works on your computer?
[15:20:37] <IceGuest_7>	Sorry if that is too long
[15:20:41] <Higdur>	Duesentrieb: indeed ;)
[15:20:56] <Duesentrieb>	!moving | IceGuest_7
[15:20:56] --mwbot--	IceGuest_7: I don't know anything about "moving". You might try: !move 
[15:21:03] <Duesentrieb>	uh?
[15:21:07] <Duesentrieb>	!move | IceGuest_7
[15:21:07] --mwbot--	IceGuest_7: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Moving_a_wiki
[15:21:27] <Higdur>	IceGuest_7: you would need to have a server running on your computer though
[15:21:45] <norton>	Hello, I have some questions about image dump
[15:21:58] <IceGuest_7>	I do have Apache installed
[15:22:05] <IceGuest_7>	Just what I needed, thanks!
[15:22:06] <Duesentrieb>	IceGuest_7: you need php5 and mysel too
[15:22:12] <Duesentrieb>	*mysql
[15:22:35] <IceGuest_7>	MySQL is installed as well as PHP5, because I use WOS :)
[15:22:35] <Duesentrieb>	norton: is there such a thing?
[15:23:00] <MnaNaHEr|fainted>	[16:18] <Duesentrieb> MnaNaHEreann: uh, to linclude links to other language versions of thesame page, you could just use the polyglot extension...
[15:23:04] <MnaNaHEr|fainted>	okay...
[15:23:14] <Duesentrieb>	!e Polyglot
[15:23:14] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Polyglot
[15:23:16] <norton>	I want to check the options I have, Dues
[15:23:50] <Duesentrieb>	norton: just pack the image directory. if you want to get fancy, exclude the temp, thumb and math subdirectories
[15:24:27] <norton>	I want to get the images from wikipdia itself
[15:24:57] <norton>	I have already downloaded the article dump from wikipedia, Dues
[15:25:10] <norton>	Now, I have checked that page:
[15:25:11] <norton>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download#Images_and_uploaded_files
[15:25:32] <norton>	and I would like to check what are the options that I have to get an image dump from wikipedia
[15:25:50] <Duesentrieb>	there's no image dump. it would be far too big to be useful.
[15:26:06] <Duesentrieb>	it's aproaching 1TB if i recall correctly
[15:26:13] <Duesentrieb>	*its
[15:26:28] <norton>	So if i would like to build a site similar to wikipedia including the images
[15:26:35] <norton>	Is this possible?
[15:27:09] <norton>	In other words, I want to have the current wikipedia with all its content displayed on my site
[15:27:18] <Duesentrieb>	a thumbnail dump might be feasable - not sure if one exists. maybe as aprt of the static html dump
[15:27:19] <norton>	And I will add some features
[15:27:26] <Duesentrieb>	i.e. the small images inarticles, but not full res
[15:27:41] <norton>	This rises a question
[15:28:02] <Duesentrieb>	the only alternative i know is making a local caching proxy - load all images through the proxy, and cache once they are loaded.
[15:28:15] <Duesentrieb>	people ahve done it before, i don'Ät know if there's decent/public code
[15:28:19] <Duesentrieb>	oh, and in any case:
[15:28:24] <Duesentrieb>	!creadit | norton
[15:28:24] --mwbot--	norton: I don't know anything about "creadit".
[15:28:30] <Duesentrieb>	damn
[15:28:32] <Duesentrieb>	!credit | norton
[15:28:32] --mwbot--	norton: NOTE: when using content from another wiki, follow the LICENSE TERMS, especially, attribute source and authors! Please read <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reusing_Wikipedia_content>.
[15:28:48] <Duesentrieb>	that goes for the text as well as each image.
[15:29:04] <norton>	i understand
[15:29:16] <norton>	here is my question about the static html
[15:29:18] <norton>	As the following page states, putting one of these dumps on the web unmodified will constitute a trademark violation.
[15:29:41] <norton>	So, if i make any kind of modification like changing the template
[15:29:51] <norton>	THis would not be trademark violation, correct?
[15:30:54] <Duesentrieb>	trademark is trademark. it's about using the name "wikipedia" and the wikipedia logo.-
[15:31:02] <Duesentrieb>	(and wikimedia and teh wikimedia logo)
[15:31:50] <Duesentrieb>	you must not use the logo. you must not say "this is wikipedia". you must say "i got the content from wikipeida" with a link to the license and the contributors page (page history)
[15:32:14] <norton>	Ok, I am going to remove the logo and the the title
[15:32:20] <norton>	I will put mine :)
[15:32:30] <norton>	And of course I will have link back to wikipedia
[15:32:36] <Duesentrieb>	that's fine as long as you give due credit to the authors
[15:32:47] <Duesentrieb>	read the page about reusing content.
[15:33:05] <Duesentrieb>	it is, in fact, not so important to credit wikipedia. it's important to credit each individual contributor.
[15:33:12] <Duesentrieb>	wikipedia does NOT own the content.
[15:33:20] <norton>	I understand that point also
[15:33:29] <norton>	and I will read the referred page :)
[15:33:30] <MnaNaHEreann>	May I ask you a question norton? How are you ever going to get all images and the whole database transfered?
[15:33:58] <norton>	I got already the whole database (the text)
[15:34:04] <norton>	on my server
[15:34:04] <MnaNaHEreann>	:o
[15:34:06] <MnaNaHEreann>	okay
[15:34:07] <Silentrage>	Werdna: You there?
[15:34:19] <norton>	I know check how can I get the images
[15:35:23] *MnaNaHEreann 	 Werdna has been idle for 1 hour 25 minutes 46 seconds
[15:37:28] <Duesentrieb>	norton: do you want/need full res images?
[15:38:12] <IceGuest_7>	I'm having a problem with ShortURL now. This is totally unrelated to the previous question.
[15:38:35] <IceGuest_7>	I keep getting a 404 error when I try to access the wiki.
[15:39:05] <Duesentrieb>	!rewriteproblem | IceGuest_7
[15:39:05] --mwbot--	IceGuest_7: 1) Try <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access> as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root.
[15:39:18] <IceGuest_7>	OK
[15:39:59] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Ability to Hide highly active editors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13225 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (jaspencer00)
[15:50:02] <MnaNaHEreann>	byebye
[15:54:38] <orzel>	hello. i'm using {{{2|== title==}} in some templates. if i call the template with arg2 ="asdf", it gets replaced, but,if i call it with arg2= "===other title===", then it is not replaced. 
[15:54:49] <orzel>	is there a way to do what i want ? (which is changing the title)
[15:59:40] <Duesentrieb>	orzel: "=" is a special character for template parameters. it'S used for named parameters.
[16:00:04] <orzel>	i see, there is no way to escape it ?
[16:00:08] <Duesentrieb>	{{foo|===bla===}} willnot assing anything to {{{1}}}. You would have to use {{foo|1====bla===}}
[16:00:32] <orzel>	i can do that
[16:00:36] <orzel>	and yes it works!
[16:00:38] <Duesentrieb>	you can also escape it, but then it wouldn't work to create a heading :)
[16:00:42] <orzel>	Duesentrieb:  thanks :-)
[16:00:44] <Duesentrieb>	np
[16:02:15] <Simetrical>	Why is the edit summary specified to be a max of 200 characters in the input forms, then truncated to 250 characters
[16:02:15] <Simetrical>	?
[16:02:36] <MinuteElectron>	maybe for the heading part?
[16:02:42] <MinuteElectron>	but that wouldn't make sense
[16:02:46] <Simetrical>	No, it wouldn't.
[16:02:53] <Simetrical>	Because that counts against the wpSummary limit in the browser.
[16:02:56] <MinuteElectron>	yeah
[16:02:57] *Simetrical 	tests on Wikipedia
[16:04:24] <ZorroIII>	bytes or chars?
[16:05:21] <Simetrical>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Simetrical&action=history
[16:05:23] <Simetrical>	Bytes.
[16:05:32] <Simetrical>	Yep, it doesn't actually enforce the real length.
[16:05:41] <Simetrical>	It allows an extra 50 characters.
[16:06:01] <Simetrical>	I manually edited out the maxlength parameter for the second of those two edits, and as you can see, it's 50 characters longer.
[16:08:50] <ZorroIII>	what happens if one enters lots of 2- or 4-byte chars in editsummary?
[16:09:34] <Simetrical>	ZorroIII, the summary gets truncated.
[16:09:43] <Simetrical>	I think maxlength means max length in bytes.
[16:09:48] *Simetrical 	looks it up in the standards
[16:10:09] <ZorroIII>	on char or byteboundary?
[16:10:14] <Simetrical>	Ugh, "maximum number of characters".
[16:10:33] <Simetrical>	ZorroIII, character boundary.  We have a Unicode-aware truncater-thingy.
[16:11:59] <Simetrical>	Great, Firefox really does interpret maxlength as "number of characters".
[16:12:12] <Simetrical>	I guess foreigners are kind of screwed at present.
[16:12:29] <Simetrical>	Hmm, maybe the 200-byte soft limit should stay.  It's retarded, but . . .
[16:12:46] <Simetrical>	It will at least help out people entering short phrases, or Europeans with accented characters.
[16:12:52] <Simetrical>	But it doesn't work for logs.
[16:13:02] <Simetrical>	I'll have to consult Brion, rats.
[16:13:15] <Simetrical>	And I wanted to get this done today.
[16:26:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow blank lines between list items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13223  (10michael.daly)
[16:27:00] <Wiredtape>	gm MinuteElectron
[16:31:04] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Preservation of the system language (that the user set) in auto-conversion pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13226 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User preferences; (yes0song)
[16:34:42] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Preservation of the system language (that the user set) in auto-conversion pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13226  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[16:34:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Interface "variant" overruling "language" preference [ bug in StubUserLang::_newObject()] - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10837  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[16:35:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Ability to Hide highly active editors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13225  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[16:38:16] <CIA-43>	03nikerabbit * r31454 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: * Add a note about different license
[16:41:41] <CIA-43>	03greg * r31455 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/postgres/mediawiki_mysql2postgres.pl: Don't CASCADE on TRUNCATE, not available in old versions of Postgres.
[16:42:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Section edit conflict expands edit box to entire article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4745  (10Thehelpfulonewiki)
[16:42:36] <CIA-43>	03greg * r31456 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/postgres/tables.sql: Make sequence names explicit for future porting ease.
[16:44:02] <Silentrage>	Someone help me fix imagemap extension pleas
[16:51:34] <Nikerabbit>	Silentrage: what's wrong with it?
[16:52:02] <Silentrage>	When I load the extension there's something like a log file all over my webpages
[16:53:59] <Nikerabbit>	php warnings?
[16:54:14] <Silentrage>	no, just a list of recent changes
[16:54:38] <Nikerabbit>	what kind?
[16:55:00] <Silentrage>	just changes I've made to my wiki in general
[16:55:21] <Silentrage>	The kind that you find listed on special:recentchanges
[16:55:51] <Nikerabbit>	example?
[16:56:00] <Silentrage>	Log of /trunk/extensions/ImageMap/ImageMap.php is at teh top of the wiki page
[16:56:13] <Silentrage>	Revision 31350 - (view) (download) (as text) (annotate) - [select for diffs]
[16:56:13] <Silentrage>	Modified Wed Feb 27 14:13:10 2008 UTC (3 days, 19 hours ago) by siebrand
[16:56:13] <Silentrage>	File length: 796 byte(s)
[16:56:13] <Silentrage>	Diff to previous 30693
[16:56:28] <Silentrage>	Like that ^
[16:56:54] <Nikerabbit>	bah
[16:57:02] <Nikerabbit>	you didn't download it manually from svn, did you?
[16:57:13] <Nikerabbit>	websvn, that is
[16:57:14] <Silentrage>	Yes
[16:57:25] <Silentrage>	that's the only place I could find it
[16:57:37] <Silentrage>	Was that a mistake?
[16:57:39] <Nikerabbit>	use svn client if you can, or use the download link
[16:57:57] <Nikerabbit>	you probably saved some version page
[16:58:58] <Silentrage>	ImageMap.php, ImageMap_body.php, ImageMap.i18n.php, desc-20.png, desc.svg
[16:59:46] <Silentrage>	The download link takes me here: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ImageMap/
[17:00:14] <Nikerabbit>	Silentrage: do you have access to the server?
[17:00:25] <Silentrage>	Yes
[17:00:40] <Nikerabbit>	does it have svn client installed?
[17:01:16] <Silentrage>	not sure, where would I look for that?
[17:01:33] <Nikerabbit>	hmm, is it linux or windows or something else?
[17:01:39] <Silentrage>	WIndows
[17:02:29] <Silentrage>	 Iam running version 1.11
[17:03:15] *siebrand 	blinks.
[17:03:22] <Nikerabbit>	buh
[17:03:36] <Nikerabbit>	then you really want files from http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_11/extensions/ImageMap/
[17:03:47] <Nikerabbit>	and you need to first click the filename, and then download link
[17:04:00] <siebrand>	Nikerabbit: AFAIK trunk ImageMap should work on 1.11
[17:04:25] <Nikerabbit>	siebrand: I doubt it
[17:04:47] <siebrand>	Nikerabbit: if you say so...
[17:04:49] <Nikerabbit>	it uses wfLoad
[17:04:59] <siebrand>	Nikerabbit: that was added in 1.11a
[17:05:13] <Nikerabbit>	siebrand: if you say so...
[17:05:18] <siebrand>	Nikerabbit: I say so :)
[17:07:39] <Silentrage>	Same problem guys
[17:08:46] *Nikerabbit 	points to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/SVN
[17:10:02] <siebrand>	Simetrical: I need some kind of hook to circumvent a current requirement in SocialProfile to change core code. Could you help me by adding that?
[17:12:54] *Silentrage 	downloads and runs tortoisesvn
[17:13:10] <siebrand>	Simetrical: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserRelationship/README.txt?revision=31447&view=markup
[17:13:16] <siebrand>	Simetrical: and http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserBoard/README.txt?revision=31447&view=markup
[17:16:12] <Simetrical>	I don't like hooks.  :(
[17:16:15] <Simetrical>	Also I'm doing something else now.
[17:16:21] <Simetrical>	Maybe someone else?
[17:16:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Ability to Hide highly active editors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13225  (10jaspencer00)
[17:19:41] <Silentrage>	Error could not connect to server http://svn.wikimedia.org
[17:27:34] <Wiredtape>	siebrand, have you implemented changes from http://en.wiredtape.com/wiki/User:Bfhappy/SocialProfile to SocialProfile? (mostly the UserStatsClass.php ) --
[17:28:08] <siebrand>	Wiredtape: nope. I marked what was already fixed (the prefix on table creation), but that's about it.
[17:29:15] <Wiredtape>	siebrand, the problem with that is, that the code sometimes uses $wgDbPrefix and sometimes doesn't.. so i fixed UserStatsClass.php to use it .. except for this area in the code where they had some table low_priority which i couldn't find..
[17:31:22] <Jack_Phoenix>	I'm using about the first release of SocialProfile stuff...and it breaks Special:Allmessages (Special:AvatarUpload doesn't work either, but that's not core)...very annoying
[17:31:41] <CIA-43>	03siebrand * r31457 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserStats/UserStatsClass.php: 
[17:31:41] <CIA-43>	Now takes $wgDbPrefix into account.
[17:31:41] <CIA-43>	Patch by: Bfhappy/Wiredtape
[17:31:53] <Jack_Phoenix>	well, I know that we have some capable devs here that'll fix this extension (or more like these extensions) in no time... :-)
[17:32:33] <Silentrage>	How do I run this svn client properly to get the extension/s I need?
[17:32:50] <Wiredtape>	Jack_Phoenix, problem with avatarupload i've seen too.. regarding allmessages problem, i haven't run into that..
[17:32:54] <siebrand>	Wiredtape: next would be to fix all those 'Undefined variable' notices, I guess.
[17:33:11] <Wiredtape>	Silentrage, tortoisesvn?
[17:34:36] <Jack_Phoenix>	Wiredtape: function wfSpecialAvatarUpload(){ adds a normal special page and that functions also contains the AvatarUpload class...where the special page is listed as UnlistedSpecialPage - I'd guess that messes up something ;-)
[17:34:39] <Wiredtape>	siebrand, i would actually try and fix the "call at run-time" to function (give me a sec, i'll tell you where this error is from) => basically they do something like: $bla = new <classname>(vars); (and then they don't do anything with this object)
[17:34:43] <Silentrage>	Wiredtape: yEP
[17:36:08] <Wiredtape>	Jack_Phoenix, siebrand, perhaps we should start a small list of all the errors we encounter, so atleast we have some sort of task list for fixing this?
[17:36:21] <Wiredtape>	silentrage, give me a sec i'll help you
[17:36:27] <Silentrage>	k
[17:36:31] <Jack_Phoenix>	sure, why not (do note that I'm running the old version)
[17:36:47] <siebrand>	Jack_Phoenix: why are you not running SVN HEAD?
[17:37:01] <Jack_Phoenix>	I blame it on my laziness ;-)
[17:37:15] <siebrand>	Jack_Phoenix: too lazy to type 'svn up'???
[17:37:19] <Wiredtape>	if you want you can use the link i provided up top (on wiredtape)
[17:37:39] <Jack_Phoenix>	siebrand: using Windows here <g>
[17:37:46] <Wiredtape>	Silentrage, create a directory in extensions/<extensionname> 
[17:37:59] <Silentrage>	done
[17:38:09] <siebrand>	Jack_Phoenix: OK. Too lazy to 'click right, choose 'SVN Update''? ;)
[17:38:10] <Wiredtape>	Silentrage, when in extensions/ right click new dir and select update
[17:38:39] <Jack_Phoenix>	siebrand: meh, I guess I could update...need to edit the LocalSettings.php again thou ;)
[17:38:59] <siebrand>	Jack_Phoenix: ow yeah. You need to remove 15 lines from that and add one, indeed ;)
[17:39:10] <siebrand>	Jack_Phoenix: oh well. I'd think that over if I were you :)
[17:39:17] <Jack_Phoenix>	heh
[17:39:18] *siebrand 	grins.
[17:39:26] <Wiredtape>	Silentrage, url is http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/<extensionname> (case sensitive)
[17:40:06] <Silentrage>	I keep getting failed to connect to server svn.wikimedia
[17:41:00] <Wiredtape>	did you try the url exactly as i typed it?
[17:41:30] <Wiredtape>	I wonder why $wgDbPrefix is null on that userstatsclass ?
[17:42:02] <Silentrage>	give me a sec
[17:44:29] <Silentrage>	Error: PROPFIND request failed on '/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_11/extensions/ImageMap/ImageMap.php'  
[17:44:34] <Silentrage>	Error: PROPFIND of '/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_11/extensions/ImageMap/ImageMap.php': could not connect to server (http://svn.wikimedia.org)  
[17:45:00] <Wiredtape>	hmm.. :-\ 
[17:45:45] <Wiredtape>	ok.. why are you trying to go to /viewvc/mediawiki/branches and so on..
[17:45:52] <Wiredtape>	?
[17:46:00] <Silentrage>	Even when I open the repo browser it does not connect to the svn server
[17:46:14] <Silentrage>	Not even to teh parent directory
[17:46:25] <Jack_Phoenix>	Silentrage: use /svnroot/ instead of /viewvc/
[17:46:54] <Silentrage>	It  fails before it even gets to that subdirectory
[17:48:46] <Wiredtape>	warning: call-ime pass-by-reference - userprofile.php on line 49 -> line 49: $article = new UserProfilePage(&$title); --> what can this be fixed to?
[17:49:58] <ialex>	remove the &
[17:50:21] <Wiredtape>	ialex, but userprofilepage returns a value.. 
[17:50:48] <CIA-43>	03siebrand * r31458 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesUk.php: Fall back to Russian
[17:51:38] <ialex>	Wiredtape: if you want to pass a variable by ref, you should declare it in the function definition, not when you call it
[17:52:06] <ialex>	it should be $article = new UserProfilePage($title);
[17:52:14] <Wiredtape>	ok.. 
[17:52:16] <Wiredtape>	thx
[17:52:24] <Silentrage>	Still does not connect to the server
[17:52:48] <popoffka>	hello!
[17:52:57] <popoffka>	is here any russians?
[17:55:38] <Simetrical>	<3 MediaWiki for automatically detecting the switch from APC to XCache
[17:56:54] <popoffka>	What i need to have on my server to use MediaWiki?
[17:57:26] <Silentrage>	MediaWiki
[17:57:42] <popoffka>	hehe)) something else?
[17:59:17] <Silentrage>	mysql
[17:59:37] <Simetrical>	!installation
[17:59:37] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "installation". You might try: !adminsettings !analytics !install !instantcommons !package !version 
[17:59:41] <Simetrical>	!install
[17:59:41] --mwbot--	Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installation>. See also: !download
[17:59:47] <Simetrical>	!install alias installation
[17:59:47] --mwbot--	Alias "install" already exists. Use "!install del" to remove it.
[17:59:54] <Simetrical>	!installation alias install
[17:59:54] --mwbot--	Successfully added alias: installation
[18:00:03] <Simetrical>	popoffka, the requirements should be there.
[18:00:17] <siebrand>	!instantcommons
[18:00:17] --mwbot--	InstantCommons is a proposed feature for MediaWiki to allow any MediaWiki installation to use media on the Wikimedia Commons. However, several issues (some legal) need to be worked out, and it is only a proposal. See < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/InstantCommons >.
[18:00:26] <Simetrical>	PHP 5, MySQL 4.0 or later (or PostgreSQL), and some kind of web server.
[18:00:29] <Simetrical>	Those are the basic requirements.
[18:00:51] <Silentrage>	oh i forgot to say php
[18:03:35] <popoffka>	thanks
[18:06:15] <Nikerabbit>	hello
[18:12:14] <Jack_Phoenix>	siebrand: http://wiki.jackphoenix.com/wiki/User:Jack_Phoenix/UserBoard.i18n.php - Finnish i18n, wanna commit that to SVN? and http://wiki.jackphoenix.com/wiki/User:Jack_Phoenix/UserProfile.i18n.php too, if possible :-)
[18:12:25] *Jack_Phoenix 	runs off to avoid getting stabbed by Nikerabbit
[18:15:10] *Nikerabbit 	stabs Jack_Phoenix 
[18:15:33] <Silentrage>	Ah, firewall was blocking tortoisesvn, but even though i have the files now page isn't loading at all
[18:15:48] <Nikerabbit>	Jack_Phoenix: could you advocate people to use standard methods for translating? :)
[18:16:12] <Jack_Phoenix>	maybe I should <g>
[18:16:27] <Nikerabbit>	Jack_Phoenix: ja korjaa ny ainaki klikkaa -> napsauta
[18:17:03] <Silentrage>	c'mon apache...
[18:17:07] <Wiredtape>	siebrand, some fixes on http://en.wiredtape.com/wiki/User:Bfhappy/SocialProfile 
[18:18:00] <Wiredtape>	anyone have any idea why $wgDbPrefix is null  when called by SocialProfile extension? 
[18:18:20] <Silentrage>	invalid access to memory location
[18:18:38] <Silentrage>	just keeps getting better...
[18:19:06] <RoanKattouw>	Wiredtape: Because the code didn't do global $wgDbPrefix; ? Maybe it's DBPrefix?
[18:19:17] <Jack_Phoenix>	Nikerabbit: toi on nyt korjattu, kiitokset. piti saada jotakin räpellettyä suomenkieliselle sivustolle, ettei käyttäjien tarvitsis kaivella englanninsanakirjojaan ;-)
[18:19:53] <Wiredtape>	RoanKattouw, code didn't have it at all.. i added it, both global and $wgDbPrefix.. -> all other globals work, however, $wgDbPrefix is empty. (weird)
[18:20:07] <RoanKattouw>	Wiredtape: You sure it's spelled that way?
[18:20:30] <RoanKattouw>	It's also possible you didn't set $wgDbPrefix in LocalSettings.php
[18:20:30] <Wiredtape>	RoanKattouw, i'm looking at localsettings.php as we speak.. (btw, long time no see)
[18:20:35] <RoanKattouw>	In which case it would be ''
[18:22:32] <siebrand>	Wiredtape: you'll be on for another few hours, I guess. Have those patches pile up and i'll commit them in a few hours :)
[18:22:59] <RoanKattouw>	Yeah, I know, I haven't been around here for a while
[18:23:00] <siebrand>	Wiredtape: and ask commit access if you are thinking of making a habit out of making patches... ;)
[18:23:24] <Wiredtape>	siebrand, np.. ;) (btw, are you getting $wgDbPrefix = '' as well? )
[18:23:40] <siebrand>	Wiredtape: haven't tried. Gimme a sec.
[18:23:40] <Wiredtape>	RoanKattouw, yeah, someone was looking for you.. don't remember though who
[18:23:51] <RoanKattouw>	AzaTht maybe?
[18:23:54] <Wiredtape>	yes
[18:24:05] <RoanKattouw>	Wiredtape: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgDBprefix
[18:24:10] <RoanKattouw>	$wgDBprefix
[18:24:20] <RoanKattouw>	AzaTht: I heard you were looking for me?
[18:24:42] <Wiredtape>	this was about two days ago (mind you)
[18:24:49] <RoanKattouw>	Ok
[18:25:30] <Wiredtape>	RoanKattouw, the manual didn't help .. 
[18:25:52] <siebrand>	Wiredtape: where exactly would you like me to look?
[18:25:58] <RoanKattouw>	Wiredtape: What I meant was that it's spelled $wgDBprefix
[18:26:04] <RoanKattouw>	Case matters in PHP
[18:26:16] <Wiredtape>	ahh..  (my bad ) :) -let me check if that fixes things
[18:26:27] <Wiredtape>	siebrand, try Special:UpdateProfile
[18:27:14] <siebrand>	Wiredtape: works for me (I am not using a prefix in my database)
[18:27:25] <siebrand>	Wiredtape: only thing I get there is "<b>Notice</b>:  Undefined variable: wgStyleVersion in <b>D:\mediawiki\phase3\extensions\SocialProfile\UserProfile\SpecialUpdateProfile.php</b> on line <b>49"
[18:27:56] <Wiredtape>	ok, thx, siebrand
[18:28:14] <Nikerabbit>	siebrand: looks like missing global statement :o
[18:28:22] <siebrand>	Wiredtape: and Firebug is reporting "displaySection is not defined"
[18:29:31] <Wiredtape>	ok.. i'll get to that eventually :)
[18:29:39] <Wiredtape>	RoanKattouw, that solved it.. thx :)
[18:29:47] <Silentrage>	The Apache service named  reported the following error:
[18:29:47] <Silentrage>	>>> apache.exe: Syntax error on line 119 of P:/xampplite/apache/conf/httpd.conf: Cannot load P:/xampplite/apache/modules/mod_setenvif.so into server: Invalid access to memory location.
[18:39:05] <dbmoodb>	any ideas of how to speed up my wiki
[18:39:12] <dbmoodb>	http://www.mu-cs.com
[18:39:40] <RoanKattouw>	dbmoodb: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseMemCached
[18:40:09] <dbmoodb>	how ?
[18:40:20] <dbmoodb>	version 1.11 i think
[18:40:25] <dbmoodb>	.1
[18:40:52] <RoanKattouw>	dbmoodb: Take the time to read that
[18:41:01] <RoanKattouw>	And follow the docs/memcached.txt link
[18:41:20] <dbmoodb>	?
[18:41:21] <Silentrage>	apache stopped running all of a sudden and I can't get it started again
[18:41:26] <dbmoodb>	i am trying too
[18:41:30] <dbmoodb>	Silentrage: try #apache
[18:41:50] <RoanKattouw>	dbmoodb: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Memcached is better I think
[18:41:58] <dbmoodb>	maybe
[18:42:02] <dbmoodb>	yes much better
[18:42:49] <dbmoodb>	i dont have root access or a bunch of servers 
[18:42:55] <dbmoodb>	at my disposal
[18:43:05] <RoanKattouw>	You don't need a bunch of servers but you do need the root access
[18:43:10] <RoanKattouw>	Are you on shared hosting?
[18:43:53] <dbmoodb>	shared no clue
[18:43:57] <dbmoodb>	probably
[18:44:09] <MinuteElectron>	Wiredtape: gm?
[18:44:17] <Wiredtape>	MinuteElectron, good morning.
[18:44:31] <MinuteElectron>	oh, hi ;)
[18:44:41] <Wiredtape>	:)
[18:45:02] <dbmoodb>	so i can't make it faster i guess
[18:45:13] <RoanKattouw>	dbmoodb: It looks like your hosting sucks :P
[18:45:18] <dbmoodb>	lol
[18:45:22] <dbmoodb>	its not me
[18:46:03] <dbmoodb>	lets see, mem  1457552 free i think it is
[18:46:20] <dbmoodb>	ah ....  53.5% user,   8.0% system,   2.3% nice,  36.2% idle
[18:46:34] <RoanKattouw>	You do have shell access then?
[18:46:42] <dbmoodb>	oh yeah sure
[18:47:34] <AzaTht>	RoanKattouw: ah 
[18:47:41] <RoanKattouw>	Hey AzaTht
[18:47:48] <AzaTht>	had an proposition
[18:48:05] <dbmoodb>	i said not root
[18:48:13] <AzaTht>	would it be possible to make an implementation to access other linked projectes via the api?
[18:48:33] <ialex>	Hojjat: ping
[18:48:40] <RoanKattouw>	AzaTht: You mean like access wiktionary from en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php ?
[18:48:40] <Hojjat>	ialex: pong
[18:48:46] <Hojjat>	ialex: sup?
[18:48:57] <RoanKattouw>	dbmoodb: That sucks. There's not much you can do (that I know of) then
[18:49:03] <AzaTht>	RoanKattouw: yea, and for example acces another language
[18:49:03] <dbmoodb>	bad
[18:49:09] <dbmoodb>	sucky hosting
[18:49:28] <dbmoodb>	was a one click install so maybe ?
[18:49:40] <ialex>	Hojjat: i have a question about r31247 : is it normal that you modified only one 'protect' to 'editprotected' ?
[18:49:41] <dbmoodb>	but all that does is untar the file :)
[18:49:44] <RoanKattouw>	AzaTht: I assume this is the one-domain issue and going to de.wikipedia.org/w/api.php instead ain't gonna work?
[18:49:46] <AzaTht>	RoanKattouw: as scripts cannot deviate from a given domain, it could be really useful
[18:49:55] <AzaTht>	yea
[18:49:59] <ialex>	Hojjat: because there is in other places in Title.php
[18:50:08] <RoanKattouw>	Hmm
[18:50:22] <Hojjat>	ialex: well, the rest of the protects (as far as I found them) are for "protecting" the pages, not "checking if the page can be edited"
[18:50:34] <Hojjat>	ialex: you know what I mean, don't you?
[18:51:37] <RoanKattouw>	AzaTht: I'm afraid that's very difficult to implement. Interwiki transclusion is also very fragile (and breaks for nonexistent pages) for the same reason
[18:51:49] <ialex>	Hojjat: there is one in line 1184 that is to check the permission for cascade protection
[18:52:03] <Hojjat>	I'll take a look in a sec
[18:52:18] <RoanKattouw>	The point is we don't have DB access (only URL access) to foreign wikis (we don't even know whether an interwiki binding *is* a wiki)
[18:52:30] <RoanKattouw>	And we only have a URL that points to index.php
[18:52:35] <MinuteElectron>	Can't the API be used/
[18:52:37] <MinuteElectron>	*?
[18:52:39] <AzaTht>	RoanKattouw: uh?
[18:52:43] <RoanKattouw>	Or worse: all you get is http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/$1
[18:52:47] <ialex>	Hojjat: and one other on line 1218 for title protection
[18:52:49] <RoanKattouw>	MinuteElectron: ?
[18:53:01] <MinuteElectron>	RoanKattouw: It would be pretty easy to do interwiki transclusion etc. with the API.
[18:53:15] <AzaTht>	RoanKattouw: think link api.php?project=de-wikipedia&action=...
[18:53:18] <RoanKattouw>	If you set up some sort of interwiki map with API URLs, yes
[18:53:44] <Hojjat>	ialex: well.. I'll take a look again, but FYI, I tested and made sure that (1) the change will let a 'editprotected' permission work, and (2) it won't let the user with the prtection to touch the protection level
[18:54:16] <AzaTht>	RoanKattouw: and then operate on that project instead of the current one
[18:54:38] <RoanKattouw>	But it adds another requirement that some way of fetching stuff from URLs needs to be enabled in PHP (sockets, fopen, curl)
[18:54:46] <MinuteElectron>	RoanKattouw: Two columns in the interwiki table: interwiki_article and interwiki_script - for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/$1 and http://en.wikipedia.org/w/$1
[18:55:01] <RoanKattouw>	MinuteElectron: That could work
[18:55:06] <Hojjat>	ialex: lines 1184 and 1218 on HEAD, right?
[18:55:15] <RoanKattouw>	Still, WMF servers might have fopen for URLs enabled, but not all servers will
[18:55:18] <ialex>	Hojjat: yes
[18:56:16] <Wiredtape>	AzaTht, RoanKattouw, this actually falls into place for me with something i have been thinking about lately.. something along the lines of cross-wiki section transclusion -> this would "sort of" create a foundation to making wiki's on any subject feed one "major wiki" with all of the data, making less work for everyone.. (i have a better example than this if you want to hear it)
[18:56:22] <MinuteElectron>	RoanKattouw: You just need file_get_contents which is available on most servers, but you need sockets open for any form of external transclusion so it could be one of those features that is nice and you can use if your server supports it, but is not integral to the software.
[18:56:29] <RoanKattouw>	Also, like I said, there are three ways of getting foreign data, so we'll need to implement *all three* and decide which one to use based on php.ini settings
[18:57:03] <RoanKattouw>	MinuteElectron: file_get_contents only works for URLs is some setting in php.ini is set
[18:57:18] <ialex>	Hojjat: for the one on line 1218, it is explicitely stated action=create on line 1211
[18:57:22] <RoanKattouw>	But I guess I could work on this stuff
[18:57:26] <MinuteElectron>	:p
[18:57:34] <RoanKattouw>	I'll create a tracking bug at BZ
[18:57:44] <Hojjat>	ialex: about 1184, I gave it some thought before applying that change.. and I had a reasoning it shouldn't be touched, but I can't remember what it was
[18:58:27] <Hojjat>	ialex: for 1218.. I guess you're right, and I'm running a test right now
[19:00:32] <ialex>	Hojjat: but there will be a problem even with the actual code a user with editprotected right but not protect will be able to edit a cascade protected page (the primary page) and add a temple that will be protected
[19:00:38] <AzaTht>	RoanKattouw: It was just an idea, perhaps you want to work on user-generators instead ツ
[19:00:58] <RoanKattouw>	AzaTht: I'll do APIEdit first ;)
[19:01:02] <AzaTht>	hehe
[19:01:03] <CIA-43>	03catrope * r31459 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): API: Added watch and unwatch parameters to action=move and action=delete
[19:01:30] <Hojjat>	ialex: I'm not following. Can you repeat.. oh and do you mind if we talk privately.. it is too crowded for me!
[19:01:32] <AzaTht>	have you emptied your TODO list yet?
[19:01:48] <RoanKattouw>	AzaTht: Yeah, action=edit used to be the bottom, now the top
[19:02:06] <AzaTht>	RoanKattouw: hehe, how's the progress on api-edit?
[19:02:52] <AzaTht>	RoanKattouw: you mean I'll have to find mosre stuff to fill your TODO list with? ヾ
[19:04:58] <RoanKattouw>	AzaTht: There are three big things in there now :P
[19:05:25] <RoanKattouw>	Anyway, progress on APIEdit is good, I know have basic functionality working, just need do to a lot of testing
[19:08:31] <AzaTht>	hehe, good
[19:10:02] <CIA-43>	03catrope * r31460 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/includes/ (SpecialEditTest.php api/ApiEditPage.php): ApiEdit_Vodafone: Committing latest work
[19:15:53] <RoanKattouw>	AzaTht: ApiEditPage is already available for testing, so if you want you can already start writing some Twinkle code that uses it and test it
[19:16:12] <RoanKattouw>	By doing so, you'd also be testing my action=edit code more extensively than I do
[19:17:06] <Bryan>	how do I set that <h1> for a special page?
[19:17:23] <RoanKattouw>	Bryan: There's a SpecialPage method for that
[19:17:33] <RoanKattouw>	!c SpecialPage
[19:17:33] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "c". You might try: !adminsettings !bizzwiki !centralauth !cms !csshideheader !debug !dpl !dumphtml !extranamespace !feeds !gnu !imagemagic !install !interwiki !ldap !renameuser !rewriteproblems !smtp !threads !webrequest 
[19:17:39] <RoanKattouw>	Meh
[19:17:49] <RoanKattouw>	http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classSpecialPage.html
[19:18:28] <RoanKattouw>	Bryan: Did you get my email about overriding API modules?
[19:18:40] <Bryan>	yeah
[19:18:56] <Bryan>	I'll look into lucene later tonight :)
[19:19:11] <Bryan>	first need to get this stupid special page working...
[19:19:48] <CIA-43>	03catrope * r31461 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/ (62 files in 6 dirs): ApiEdit_Vodafone: Merging latest revisions from trunk
[19:20:32] <RoanKattouw>	Bryan: http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classSpecialPage.html#ef9395dc91f57ee2d95e1a9147397271
[19:21:00] <Bryan>	ah yes, thanks
[19:27:11] <CIA-43>	03huji * r31462 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Title.php): 
[19:27:11] <CIA-43>	Partially reverting r31247:
[19:27:11] <CIA-43>	* With that, it was possible to transclude a page in a protected pag with with cascading option selected, thus making the transcluded page protected.. without having protect rights :(
[19:27:11] <CIA-43>	* I'm keeping the editproected permission there in DefaultSettings.php, because it will be used in the "correct" solution to this bug.
[19:27:13] <CIA-43>	* Thanks for ialex for pointing out what I just missed.
[19:28:03] <Hojjat>	ialex: noticed that, right?
[19:28:05] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Bots to edit protected pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13137  +comment (10huji.huji)
[19:28:16] <ialex>	Hojjat: yes
[19:29:03] <Hojjat>	ialex: I'll take a look at the patch tomorrow. I haven't still figured why you think it only works with "new" protections
[19:29:45] <ialex>	Hojjat: because it only checks when protecting the page, not editing
[19:30:04] <Hojjat>	then we should modify it :)
[19:30:24] <Silentrage>	A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
[19:30:24] <Silentrage>	    (SQL query hidden)
[19:30:24] <Silentrage>	from within function "User::loadFromDatabase". MySQL returned error "1033: Incorrect information in file: '.\icamwiki\ic_user.frm' (localhost)".
[19:30:30] <Hojjat>	Silentrage: don't paste!
[19:30:46] <Hojjat>	Silentrage: read the channel topic please
[19:30:48] <Silentrage>	You say don't paste, others tell me TO paste..
[19:31:06] <RoanKattouw>	Silentrage: Paste in the pastebin, not in the channel
[19:31:12] <Hojjat>	Silentrage: no offense, but we prefer it on pastebin
[19:31:13] <RoanKattouw>	Pastebin is at http://rafb.net/paste
[19:31:18] <Silentrage>	When I did that before people got upset
[19:31:28] <RoanKattouw>	Weird
[19:31:32] <Hojjat>	Remind "people" about the topic then! ;)
[19:32:03] <Hojjat>	Silentrage: now.. which version are you running?
[19:32:18] <Silentrage>	the latest
[19:32:29] <Hojjat>	And you perfored update.php , right?
[19:32:48] <Silentrage>	hang on
[19:32:48] <CIA-43>	03btongminh * r31463 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalUsage/ (GlobalUsage.i18n.php GlobalUsage.php GlobalUsage_body.php): Add some kind of interface to GlobalUsage.
[19:33:52] <Bryan>	blergh, making user interfaces totally sucks
[19:34:30] <Silentrage>	I get permission error when I run update.php even though that user has full access
[19:35:45] <Wiredtape>	what's invlaid with the following: foreach($this->point_values as $point_field => $point_value) { ..}  -> error: invalid argument, internal error - could not copy file "...\phpFE1C.tmp" to "".
[19:36:02] <Hojjat>	Silentrage: does this help? http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?22,106192,106192
[19:36:21] *Silentrage 	looks
[19:36:37] <Hojjat>	Wiredtape: the destination file name is empty?
[19:37:00] <Hojjat>	Wiredtape: that is, one of the _field or _value is an empty string.. which shouldn't be, perhaps?
[19:37:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Users should be able to resign using Special:Userrights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13217  (10lugusto)
[19:37:25] <Wiredtape>	Hojjat, perhaps, i'm trying to look into it.. (darn SocialProfile extension :) )
[19:37:39] <Hojjat>	:p
[19:38:44] <Hojjat>	Silentrage: or may be this one: http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?22,192506,192506 ?
[19:40:09] <Wiredtape>	Hojjat, any chance that $this->point_values is the problem (not in terms of empty string, but in terms of incorrect way to call a method?)
[19:41:18] <Silentrage>	No
[19:41:20] <mattis^>	hi Mediawiki. I have recently been trying to make up a model of wikilandia wide wiki interaction I named the wiki-net. I used the Oddmuse wiki software for that. It would be nice if Mediawiki'd fit in ;) - Thanks for taking a look http://s4560.gridserver.com/cgi-bin/wiki2/KaboWikiList/WikiNetHiveLists
[19:41:20] <Hojjat>	Wiredtape: http://www.php.net/foreach says $key and $value should be variables..
[19:41:47] <Hojjat>	Silentrage: I guess it has something to do with your database not the wiki software. Try asking for help on #mysql channel
[19:46:12] <Silentrage>	All of my user files are jacked according to the maintenance scripts
[19:47:58] <Silentrage>	which maintenance script/s should I run to clean up the user tables?
[19:51:13] <Wiredtape>	Hojjat, thx, do you think this could be a permission error? 
[19:51:36] <Hojjat>	like?
[19:52:10] <Wiredtape>	well.. this is part of an upload script.. so maybe no permission to copy the file? 
[19:52:19] <Wiredtape>	from /tmp/* to ..
[19:52:45] <ialex>	Hojjat: maybe i fixed it (protection stuff)
[19:53:00] <Hojjat>	ialex: new patch?
[19:53:06] <ialex>	Hojjat: yes
[19:53:19] *Hojjat 	is eager to have a look
[19:53:49] <ialex>	Hojjat: it modified 5 new lines :)
[19:53:59] <Hojjat>	:p
[19:55:12] <CIA-43>	03nikerabbit * r31464 10/trunk/extensions/Interwiki/SpecialInterwiki.i18n.php: * Small grammar fix
[19:58:31] <CIA-43>	03siebrand * r31465 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalUsage/GlobalUsage.i18n.php: image -> file
[20:01:12] <Wiredtape>	siebrand, ok, i think i've had enough for today with SocialProfile.. if you can update (almost everything from the ones that existed was updated) ..
[20:06:06] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Enable crosswiki blocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12987   +need-review +patch; summary (10pathoschild)
[20:07:49] <windopain>	why is mediawiki configured through editing files rather than the web intereface? 
[20:08:12] <Wiredtape>	windopain, if you write the interface, we will come :)
[20:08:39] <windopain>	gotcha :)
[20:14:15] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Enable crosswiki blocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12987  +comment (10pathoschild)
[20:16:55] <CIA-43>	03ialex * r31466 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES maintenance/cleanupSpam.php): (bug 12430 and http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2008-March/026443.html) Fix call to private method LinkFilter::makeRegex() fatal error in maintenance/cleanupSpam.php.
[20:17:34] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) maintenance/cleanupSpam. php try to access private method LinkFilter::makeRegex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12430  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[20:18:15] <siebrand>	Wiredtape: ok, what was the URL again?
[20:18:30] <Wiredtape>	http://en.wiredtape.com/wiki/User:Bfhappy/SocialProfile
[20:19:42] <Silentrage>	Guys I'm making a bunch of edit buttons for myself and I'd like to share them with the community. Where would I go to share them?
[20:20:13] <Wiredtape>	what do you mean by edit buttons?
[20:20:22] <Silentrage>	for the edit toolbar
[20:20:22] <Wiredtape>	java based, css, html? just images?
[20:20:25] <Wiredtape>	ahh..
[20:20:33] <Silentrage>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_toolbar
[20:21:16] <Wiredtape>	are you making images, or just new button functions?
[20:21:41] <Silentrage>	Both but for now I might only be uploading the actual buttons
[20:22:03] <Wiredtape>	umm.. i have no idea where you could put that.. anyone else?
[20:25:35] <Silentrage>	There is a link to someone else's work on wikimedia who made their own but I can't remember the url
[20:26:07] <Wiredtape>	you can always just add it to that page where his link is.. and serve it on your site
[20:26:22] <Silentrage>	Yeah if I could find his link
[20:26:46] <Silentrage>	thivk I just did
[20:28:39] <Silentrage>	I believe Pop-Cult made it
[20:29:28] <iubito>	hello
[20:32:33] <iubito>	'lo Duesentrieb
[20:33:20] <iubito>	does anyone has an idea why all my /index.php?title=...&action=... consider Index.php as article ?
[20:33:36] <iubito>	Here is my htaccess with rewrite rules : http://pastebin.com/d77ee1e45
[20:33:50] <iubito>	I want to have pretty url www.site.com/Article
[20:34:09] <iubito>	it works very well for another wiki I have, but this one... I don't understand.
[20:34:26] <iubito>	see for example : http://www.linguaveritas.net/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&returnto=Main_Page
[20:34:35] <siebrand>	Wiredtape: commit done. Please clean up the page so that only stuff that still needs fixing remains. I added comments where possible.
[20:36:18] <Wiredtape>	Siebrand, better they remain on the page anyway, i will only add -fixed to titles that were fixed.. (once extension runs cleanly (a small test-phase) i will remove completely)
[20:36:35] <siebrand>	Wiredtape: that'll work, too.
[20:37:37] <Wiredtape>	siebrand, btw, did you recommit UserStatsClass.php ?
[20:37:47] <Wiredtape>	* commit again, that is..
[20:37:48] <siebrand>	Wiredtape: think I did
[20:37:54] <Silentrage>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia_buttons#Step_one:_save_the_images <--- This is his article but there should be another one
[20:38:02] <siebrand>	Wiredtape: looks like I didn't
[20:38:08] <Wiredtape>	k
[20:38:16] <OldakQuill>	Can URLs be used in with Special:Upload for source filepath?
[20:39:09] <Duesentrieb>	OldakQuill: you can enable that in localsettings
[20:40:14] <siebrand>	Wiredtape: done
[20:40:17] <CIA-43>	03siebrand * r31468 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserStats/UserStatsClass.php: 
[20:40:17] <CIA-43>	* various fixes
[20:40:17] <CIA-43>	Patch by: Bfhappy/Wiredtape
[20:40:17] <siebrand>	(afk)
[20:40:24] <Nikerabbit>	yay
[20:40:25] <Duesentrieb>	OldakQuill: $wgAllowCopyUploads
[20:40:30] <Nikerabbit>	hi Duesentrieb
[20:40:35] <Duesentrieb>	hi Nikerabbit
[20:40:45] <Nikerabbit>	Duesentrieb: how's your big work doing?
[20:40:59] <Duesentrieb>	slowly but surely.
[20:41:13] <iubito>	hello, does anyone has an idea about my url rewriting rules ?
[20:41:13] <Duesentrieb>	gotta stay focused. not easy.
[20:41:33] <Nikerabbit>	Duesentrieb: yeah, irc and coding is very distracting :)
[20:41:58] <Duesentrieb>	Nikerabbit: indeed. though a distractioncan be quite helpful somtimes
[20:42:09] <Duesentrieb>	!rewriteproblems | iubito
[20:42:09] --mwbot--	iubito: 1) Try <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access> as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root.
[20:42:11] <Nikerabbit>	let's see how I manage, have to do some papers too soon :)
[20:42:41] <Nikerabbit>	but before that, I'm waiting for very productive summer
[20:43:09] <Duesentrieb>	me too, hopefully. i should be done with my thesis by then :)
[20:46:16] <OldakQuill>	Duesentrieb: Does Commons allow this?
[20:47:11] <Wiredtape>	siebrand, k, thanks. 
[20:47:42] <Silentrage>	I can't find the page
[20:48:23] <Duesentrieb>	OldakQuill: doesn't seem so (it would be a separate field). it would probably invide people to upload more people with "source: google" and "permissin: copied myself".
[20:48:46] <Duesentrieb>	*invite
[20:49:07] <OldakQuill>	Yeah, might be useful to grant it per account permissions, but that's somewhere else.
[20:49:22] <Wiredtape>	gtg, cya later ..
[20:49:56] <notJSG>	Need some css helps. :\
[20:50:20] <notJSG>	I'm trying to edit my monobook, and no matter what I try, I can't seem to find the class or whatever that changes normal links.
[20:50:33] <notJSG>	Wikilinks will change, but not normal URL ones.
[20:50:46] <notJSG>	And I tried like seven different things I found on Google, too.
[20:51:03] <Silentrage>	Finally, found it
[20:51:33] <iubito>	$wgUsePathInfo = false; solves my problem
[20:53:24] <Silentrage>	http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:ButtonToolbar
[20:59:19] <Bryan>	how do I raise an error in the api?
[21:02:23] <HACK]Gara[>	Hi guys, does anyone in this channel run a wiki with a toplevel-Domain bound to it using the URL-Hiding method? (The way wikipedia does, so that www.domain.com/wiki/PAGETITLE is shown)
[21:02:23] <HACK]Gara[>	Mine is registered with united-domains, but it doesn't work with URL-Hiding.
[21:02:23] <HACK]Gara[>	The wiki is _shown_ correctly, but whenever i try to _submit_ an edited page it gives me a 'token_mismatch' error
[21:03:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) action=query, list=search API not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10908  (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[21:03:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) action=query, list=search API not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10908  (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[21:04:02] <Bryan>	anybody with a working lucene and time to test my api module for it?
[21:10:53] <AtharHameed>	Hello everyone
[21:11:09] <AtharHameed>	When I go to http://mywiki/, I get this error. --error: link target missing--
[21:13:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) action=query, list=search API not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10908  (10roan.kattouw)
[21:13:25] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Four quotes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13227 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (huji.huji)
[21:13:25] <Hojjat>	ialex: see
[21:13:26] *Duesentrieb 	blinks
[21:13:41] <ialex>	Hojjat: :)
[21:13:48] <Duesentrieb>	did 1.12 come out?
[21:14:03] <Nikerabbit>	nope
[21:14:05] <Hojjat>	AFAIK, no
[21:14:06] <Nikerabbit>	just branched
[21:14:18] <Duesentrieb>	why is wikipedia running 1.13alpha then, instead of 1.12rc?
[21:14:22] <Nikerabbit>	and hi Hojjat did the one guy contact you?
[21:14:29] <brion>	Duesentrieb: because wikimedia runs trunk
[21:14:34] <Hojjat>	Nikerabbit: hi and which guy?
[21:14:40] <brion>	1.12rc will be on 1.12 branch
[21:14:52] <Nikerabbit>	Hojjat: the fa guy from betawiki
[21:14:58] <Hojjat>	name?
[21:15:12] <Duesentrieb>	brion: so, you just forked. i see. hm, i thought wikipedia runs the rc version also for a while...
[21:15:14] <brion>	it's just been a super busy month, i haven't quite got round to everything yet :)
[21:15:23] <brion>	no, we only run trunk
[21:15:26] <brion>	way easier that way :)
[21:15:30] <Duesentrieb>	true
[21:15:41] <Duesentrieb>	does anyone ever use the rc then?
[21:15:42] <RoanKattouw_away>	Bryan: Wanna know what the $resultPageSet stuff is about?
[21:15:43] *Hojjat 	seconds that (or thirds?)
[21:15:58] <Nikerabbit>	[12:45:43]  Nikerabbit> oxygenws: have you been in contact with huji?
[21:16:02] <Nikerabbit>	different name on wiki
[21:16:19] <Bryan>	RoanKattouw: well, more specifically this: $result->setIndexedTagName($data, 'p');
[21:16:36] <Bryan>	(two lines below)
[21:16:41] <Nikerabbit>	Hojjat: also http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Betawiki:Translator#section-aac125be4d6be2ce7ee63ea4bebfffc7
[21:17:25] <Hojjat>	oh yeah
[21:17:28] <Hojjat>	he contacted me on Meta
[21:17:40] <Hojjat>	I think he should be trained a little
[21:17:47] <RoanKattouw>	Bryan: That's for the XML formatter
[21:18:01] <Bryan>	ah
[21:18:10] <Nikerabbit>	Hojjat: I'll leave it to you :)
[21:18:15] <Hojjat>	nikerabbit: for two reasons (1) we may get conflicts if he works on Beta and I on SVN, (2) he doesn't seem to know some Fa writing standards
[21:18:22] <RoanKattouw>	Bryan: XML doesn't handle numerical array indices natively, so it'll format as <array><item thingy="1"><item thingy="2"></array> instead
[21:18:26] <Nikerabbit>	I got my own minions to train :o
[21:18:29] <RoanKattouw>	Here 'item' is the indexed tag name
[21:18:46] <Bryan>	ok
[21:19:12] <Hojjat>	Nikerabbit, siebrand: for now, please don't commit changes for Fa submitted by any other translator, over Betawiki. Unfortunately, most of Fa writers don't know the standard writing styles, and I think we shouldn't get through that thing over and over again!
[21:19:57] <CIA-43>	03brion * r31469 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Skin.php: Follow-up for bug 12723 -- use the opensearch-desc message for the link as well as the final xml
[21:20:04] <RoanKattouw>	Bryan: Anyway, remove the "I don't know what this does" line and the "Copyright Yuri Astrakhan" line and you can commit it
[21:20:09] <Nikerabbit>	Hojjat: so you want siebrand to add it to his exclude list :)
[21:20:27] <Hojjat>	Nikerabbit: it is already there, if I'm not wrong
[21:20:28] <Bryan>	RoanKattouw_away: I'd rather not commit code I have never tested...
[21:20:34] <Nikerabbit>	Hojjat: so nothing to do then :)
[21:20:36] <Hojjat>	I mean, practically, he doesn't commit "fa".
[21:20:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Trimmed name for Firefox search plugin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12723  (10brion)
[21:21:00] <Nikerabbit>	maybe we should have possibility to disallow some translations.. but we don't
[21:21:10] <Bryan>	RoanKattouw_away: oh and while you are here, I need to throw an exception in case the backend cannot be reached... how should I do that?
[21:22:30] <HACK]Gara[>	Hi guys, does anyone in this channel run a wiki with a toplevel-Domain bound to it using the URL-Hiding method? (The way wikipedia does, so that www.domain.com/wiki/PAGETITLE is shown)
[21:22:30] <HACK]Gara[>	Mine is registered with united-domains, but it doesn't work with URL-Hiding.
[21:22:30] <HACK]Gara[>	The wiki is _shown_ correctly, but whenever i try to _submit_ an edited page it gives me a 'token_mismatch' error
[21:22:36] <Hojjat>	Nikerabbit: replied on betawiki too
[21:23:02] <RoanKattouw_away>	Bryan: $this->dieUsage("Your message here", "nolucene");
[21:23:14] <RoanKattouw_away>	The nolucene part is a short (and preferably unique) error code
[21:23:16] <Bryan>	ok
[21:23:17] <Hojjat>	Nikerabbit: and there is something wrong on that wiki too. http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Betawiki:Translator#.7B.7BLanguageHeader.7Cfa.7D.7D doesn't work, because the name of the anchor doesn't appear on the page
[21:23:47] <Duesentrieb>	HACK]Gara[: "url hiding" is an odd term. do you mean url rewriting?
[21:23:52] <Duesentrieb>	!rewriteproblems | HACK]Gara[
[21:23:52] --mwbot--	HACK]Gara[: 1) Try <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access> as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root.
[21:23:55] <Nikerabbit>	Hojjat: which tool creates such links?
[21:24:06] <HACK]Gara[>	URL-Hiding is the term United-domains use
[21:24:07] <Hojjat>	tool? Firefox?
[21:24:18] <HACK]Gara[>	Rewriting is what it does I think
[21:24:24] <Duesentrieb>	HACK]Gara[: it's important to know what they actually use
[21:24:31] <Nikerabbit>	Hojjat: there should be no such links
[21:24:47] <Hojjat>	there is! Just edit a section on the page :)
[21:25:02] <Nikerabbit>	huh?
[21:25:11] <Nikerabbit>	brings me to http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Betawiki:Translator&action=edit&section=18
[21:25:32] <Hojjat>	LOL
[21:25:39] <Jack_Phoenix>	siebrand: whoo, trunk version of Special:AvatarUpload works (and throws up this error too, but at least it *works*: <b>Warning</b>:  Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in <b>/home/www/sh/extensions/SocialProfile/UserStats/UserStatsClass.php</b> on line <b>378</b><br />)
[21:26:02] <siebrand>	Jack_Phoenix: sweet :)
[21:26:15] <siebrand>	Jack_Phoenix: we're taking one step at a time ;)
[21:26:27] <HACK]Gara[>	In case you can read german: https://www.united-domains.de/portfolio/help/faq.html?faq=14
[21:26:33] <Jack_Phoenix>	yup...who knows, perhaps it'll be not-that-sucky in a couple weeks :D
[21:26:36] <HACK]Gara[>	It's the description page of the method
[21:27:39] <Nikerabbit>	Hojjat: so where did you get that url exactly?
[21:27:44] <HACK]Gara[>	But I can't find any exact description on their page
[21:28:07] <Hojjat>	I told you, I edited that section of the page, when saved, I copied the URL from the address bar
[21:28:13] <Nikerabbit>	hmm
[21:28:33] <Nikerabbit>	okay now I see it
[21:28:38] <Duesentrieb>	HACK]Gara[: sounds like a proxy-based solution. nasty.
[21:28:52] <Hojjat>	Nikerabbit: :)
[21:29:04] <Duesentrieb>	HACK]Gara[: using this, you will have at least to set wgServer and wgServerName manually. with these set, it could work.
[21:29:41] <HACK]Gara[>	Ok, I'll try it 
[21:29:43] <HACK]Gara[>	thanks
[21:29:49] <Duesentrieb>	HACK]Gara[: $wgServerName = "translatewiki.net"; $wgServer = "http://$wgServerName"; 
[21:30:11] <Duesentrieb>	HACK]Gara[: put that just below the line that defines wgScriptPath 
[21:30:15] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Adding custom inter-namespace tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13228 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (conrad.irwin)
[21:31:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Adding custom inter-namespace tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13228  (10thedaveross)
[21:35:32] <Nikerabbit>	ugh
[21:35:34] <Nikerabbit>	that's ugly hack
[21:39:53] <Bryan>	RoanKattouw_away: how do I excactly replace the existing search module.... $wgAPIModules['search'] only adds to the module list.
[21:40:41] <RoanKattouw_away>	Bryan: That's nasty, you're replacing a submodule of action=query
[21:40:43] <RoanKattouw_away>	Lemme see
[21:41:08] <Bryan>	I should replace something in mQueryListModules of ApiQuery
[21:41:20] <RoanKattouw_away>	Bryan: I'll add $wgAPIQueryModules , use that
[21:41:25] <Bryan>	wgApiQueryListModules
[21:41:30] <Bryan>	yeah found :)
[21:41:50] <RoanKattouw_away>	Oh yeah just gonna say that
[21:42:14] <CIA-43>	03brion * r31470 10/branches/REL1_12/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES maintenance/cleanupSpam.php): Merge r31466 from trunk -- cleanupSpam.php now working
[21:42:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) maintenance/cleanupSpam. php try to access private method LinkFilter::makeRegex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12430  (10brion)
[21:43:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New Property Type: Category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13213  lowest->normal; -easy ; +comment (10dataweaver)
[21:45:20] <CIA-43>	03btongminh * r31471 10/trunk/extensions/LuceneSearch/ (ApiQueryLuceneSearch.php LuceneSearch.php): Add API module to query Lucene (bug 10908)
[21:48:01] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Bug: '&action=edit' and '&oldid=#' do not work well together - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13201  +comment (10brion)
[21:48:51] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) action=query, list=search API not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10908  +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[21:49:27] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Hook: TitleMoveComplete, Wrong Page ID present - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13204  +comment (10brion)
[21:52:10] <CIA-43>	03ialex * r31472 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: 
[21:52:10] <CIA-43>	* Fix comment in Title::getUserPermissionsErrors() and Title::getUserPermissionsErrorsInternal(), missing $user parameter
[21:52:10] <CIA-43>	* Remove unused global declaration of $wgUser in Title::getUserPermissionsErrors()
[21:53:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Upload a new version of image causes an internal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13210  (10brion)
[21:56:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) <gallery> blows up small images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13214  (10brion)
[22:01:30] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Links unclickable in rtl wikis when using simple skin under Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13229 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (meno25wiki)
[22:02:32] <Nikerabbit>	hmm looks like duplicate
[22:03:59] <Nikerabbit>	anyway why report firefox bugs to us
[22:08:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Users should be able to resign using Special:Userrights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13217  (10meno25wiki)
[22:11:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install CrosswikiBlock extension on Wikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13212  (10meno25wiki)
[22:23:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) CIDR ranges api.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13157  (10herd)
[22:35:03] <CIA-43>	03huji * r31473 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/ImageGallery.php): * (bug 13214) <gallery> doesn't resize images which are smaller than 120*120
[22:35:16] <Hojjat>	:D
[22:37:40] <Nikerabbit>	why it should?
[22:37:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) <gallery> blows up small images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13214  +comment (10huji.huji)
[22:38:25] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) <gallery> blows up small images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13214  (10huji.huji)
[22:39:16] <Hojjat>	because, as requested on 13214, it seems "thumbnailing" only makes sense when the image is larger than what is going to be displayed
[22:39:52] <Duesentrieb>	wasn't that changed back and forth a couple of times?
[22:40:06] <Duesentrieb>	with incosnistencies between "framed" and "thumb" and all that?
[22:40:06] <Hojjat>	btw, have you ever noticed that a page full of tiny icons will still take a long time to load, merely because all these icons are being shown in fake larger sizes due to the use of <galery>?
[22:40:49] <Hojjat>	Duesentrieb: my understanding was that, in the end, the opposite request was turned down
[22:43:02] <Hojjat>	Duesentrieb: so without taking into account my own reasons behind this change, I did that as I felt there is a shadow agreement about it among other people.
[22:44:30] <Duesentrieb>	scaling up generally doesn't make sense. maybe it would be nice to be able to force it in some cases, not sure
[22:44:51] <Duesentrieb>	if that should be allowed, it might be best to leave it to the client
[22:46:11] <Hojjat>	so you generally think this change is useful, right?
[22:50:15] <Hojjat>	Duesentrieb: can I quote your above two sentences in an email to Wikitech-l?
[22:50:37] <Duesentrieb>	sure
[22:51:08] <Duesentrieb>	though i'm not entirely sure what my reationale is for the seconsd line :)
[22:51:10] <Duesentrieb>	gut feeling i guess
[22:52:28] <Hojjat>	:)
[22:52:35] <Hojjat>	I'll show you what I wrote, before sending
[23:06:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New feature - search field auto-complete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12412  (10thedaveross)
[23:06:14] <pe3>	hi everyone - do you know anyone from this collaborative video project: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Collaborative_Video
[23:10:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) MediaWiki: protect-level-autoconfirmed is misleading and often incorrect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12549  (10N/A)
[23:19:07] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) MediaWiki: protect-level-autoconfirmed is misleading and often incorrect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12549  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[23:31:26] <CIA-43>	03aaron * r31474 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ (ConfirmAccount_body.php SpecialConfirmAccount.php): Add $wgAccountRequestWhileBlocked
[23:53:55] <Dragonfly6-7>	does en.wiki still have the functionality of attributing anon edits to a username?