[00:14:34] 03rainman * r31840 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/lib/dict/ (5 files): Cleanup comments in stop words lists [00:21:21] 03(mod) nbsp before colons on fr - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13273 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [00:21:57] I can haz xkcd? http://xkcd.com/262/ [00:26:51] good one [00:27:45] icanhascheezburger is spreading [00:28:18] Q: Last updated have been stopped? Recent changes 8 March 2008. Same for RSS/ATOM. I must make som misstake :-( [00:29:35] BjornH: what wiki? url? [00:29:42] BjornH: what pages have been edited after that? [00:30:21] Mediawiki, http://guldforum.se/GuldWiki/ - Many pages! [00:30:44] example? [00:31:22] http://guldforum.se/GuldWiki/index.php/Mall:Manick [00:31:31] siebrand: I dunno [00:31:50] siebrand: it's the fallback string if no other way of making a user name works [00:31:56] OpenIDUser1, OpenIDUser2 [00:32:04] http://guldforum.se/GuldWiki/index.php/Hendersonpump [00:32:08] So it might be nice to translate it [00:32:46] BjornH: quite odd. can you look at the recentchanges table in the database? [00:33:11] BjornH: look if you see odd/broken timestamps [00:33:12] Via phpMyAdmin? [00:33:26] that is one possibel way [00:33:33] especially, look at entries for recently added pages [00:33:39] oktanouc, I will try. [00:33:48] (Ok...) [00:46:36] Duesentrieb, I can not see how to do it, have marked recentchanges but can not see any date. I'm not familiary with this :-( [00:46:59] look at the values in the rc_timestamp field [00:47:20] looks like a ling number, but it's just date and time, without any separators [00:49:42] does $wgMemc->delete() purge all memcached instances? or just the one the webserver happens to be connected to at the moment? [00:50:04] i'm curious how User::saveSettings() can be sure it cleared out all the old, now stale, objects [00:51:30] Duesentrieb, Nop, no 1971... [00:52:58] BjornH: 1971 what? [00:53:29] if you see stuff starting with 1971 in your timestamp column, that's your problem right there [00:53:45] Duesentrieb, aha, I forget to scroll down. There is install data and totay. 1971... Computer basic start time. [00:54:56] can you paste a timestamp for today? [00:55:12] (btw, the start of the epoch is 1970, not 1971...) [00:57:05] Duesentrieb, 11 mars 2008 18:59 [00:57:21] Using swedish language. [00:57:25] BjornH: huh? in the database, in the timestamp field? in that format? [00:58:26] Yes, down at right side. [00:58:38] Start data in same format. [00:59:53] BjornH: thatÄs very odd. because it's completly wrong, and i have no idea how it would get into the database in that format [01:00:03] a timestamp in the database should look something like this: [01:00:13] 20080308152342 [01:00:46] BjornH: uh, what do you mean by "start data"? [01:00:49] Duesentrieb, hum, I start my other backup computer to look att same thing. [01:00:56] 03(NEW) Although I edited a page, I still see a previous old unedited version. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13330 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: wikibugs; (cindykim) [01:01:09] I have 2 field for date. [01:01:18] are you sue you are looking at the field called rc_timestamp in the recentchanges table via phpmyadmin? are we talking about the same thing? [01:02:15] yes, true, there are two timestamps. rc_timestamp and rc_cur_timestamp. [01:02:19] should usually be the same i think [01:02:47] err, rc_cur_time [01:03:44] BjornH: also, what's the type of these columns? [01:03:55] (these fields i mean) [01:04:03] http://guldforum.se/GuldWiki/ScreenShot002.png screenshot [01:06:07] BjornH: you are not looking at the right thing. go to the "visa" tab on the top. [01:06:17] i'm not interested in table structure, but in table *data*# [01:06:27] Okay. [01:09:14] Duesentrieb, I only get "Object not found, error 404"... [01:09:24] o_O [01:09:34] to mean that would indicate your phpmyadmin is broken? [01:10:01] try the "sql" tab [01:10:22] I wiull start my backup computer and do same thing... [01:11:06] on the sql tab, try a query like this: select * from recentchanges where rc_title="Manick"; [01:15:44] hello [01:17:30] hello [01:17:39] I would like to ask about dumping specific table only [01:19:28] I mean db table from wikipedia [01:19:49] Anybody can help? [01:22:26] Duesentrieb, I have test with my backup computer and doing the same and now, I get correct date (and answer), no error. [01:22:54] BjornH: and the recentchanges page looks good there too, right? [01:23:15] Will test... [01:23:22] BjornH: i suspect the recentchanges table on your wiki may be broken. rhough i would have expected that to trigger an actual error [01:23:33] norton: refer to the mysqlmanual. [01:23:46] norton: specifically, the manpage for mysqldump [01:25:15] I meant getting such a part from wikipedia dump [01:26:35] norton: from an xml dump? [01:26:45] that's impossible. [01:26:58] the xml dump does not contain database tables. it contains only page text. [01:27:17] on teh other hand, dumps several sql tables are available for separate download. [01:28:40] 03(mod) Number of articles in subcategories shown on category page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3834 +comment (10FT2.wiki) [01:29:31] Duesentrieb, recent changes is still same in my test version http://guldforum.se:8080/GuldWiki [01:30:24] BjornH: what do you mean? you mean it's also broken on your backup wiki, even though there you see the correct timestamps in the database? [01:30:32] can you past one of the timestamp values from the database? [01:30:48] preferrably one for a date after the 8th [01:31:02] Duesentrieb, 20080305022847 20080305022847 [01:31:41] that looks ok, but it's for the 5th [01:31:57] try to find the highest value for that field [01:32:06] phpmyadmin should allow you to sort by it [01:33:07] would you please send me a link or guide me how can I get these separate tables download [01:33:15] Oky, 20080312012706 [01:34:00] that looks ok... but you donÄt see that on the recentchanges page... that's quite odd :/ [01:34:04] 14(DUP) Incorrect URL link in Special:SiteMatrix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12731 +comment (10lilewyn) [01:34:06] 03(mod) Broken links in special:sitematrix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13320 (10lilewyn) [01:34:29] Yes, still same problem. [01:36:27] BjornH: odd. asking the api works: http://guldforum.se:8080/GuldWiki/api.php?action=query&list=recentchanges&rcstart=2008-03-10T14:20:55Z [01:37:26] BjornH: sorry, i have NO clue what the problem is :( [01:37:31] and i need to go to bed [01:37:38] Duesentrieb, can I have make som misstake in LocalSettings.php? [01:37:43] unlikely [01:37:54] Okay but thank you for try!!! [01:37:57] i can not think of anything that you could do wrong that would create this result [01:53:57] 03(NEW) Image embeded in imaginary page Wikinews:--error: link target missing-- - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13331 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (bawolff+wn) [02:22:30] 03(mod) Make upload history accompany image description from Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3283 (10N/A) [02:25:38] hello is there a main page i can change to add some divs? [02:29:12] yourwiki/wiki/Main_Page or yourwiki/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page [02:33:01] darkcode: i need to know where the main structure of wiki is [02:34:07] if you mean like the sidebar, the site notice, etc. there all different parts of the interface, and you need to know which interface element you want to change [02:35:00] most are editable through MediaWiki: pages try Special:Allmessages [02:35:53] darkcode: i wanted to change the design of my wiki. [02:36:02] mainly the header part [02:36:05] is there a simple way to add my own to the main page without doing so on other pages? [02:38:09] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Customization and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skins [02:38:41] you could try javascript if you know it RangerRick [02:38:48] ah, so just edit the skin, can't just set a var in LocalSettings.php or anything? ok, thanks [02:39:00] hm, we already have a custom default skin, so seems that's the easiest way [02:39:08] thanks darkcode [02:39:15] just figured there might be a $wgSomething I could set to append to the head and have it show up in any skin =) [02:39:17] those links where meant for Insolit [02:39:34] ah! heh [02:39:37] *RangerRick jumps the gun [02:39:53] well if you already got a custom skin, then that would probably be the best way to do it then [02:40:21] if its intended to be skin specific anyways [02:40:35] well, I just want to add an RSS feed to the index [02:40:43] since we use mediawiki as our "front page" for our site [02:42:03] 03(mod) Allow embedding media from foreign repositories (Commons) with local-conflicting names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9934 (10N/A) [02:42:03] 03(mod) Allow explicit use of commons images when a local image has the same name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2717 (10N/A) [02:42:31] anyways, thanks, I've added it to the skin [02:56:14] ugh, why is the flaggedrevs tag toggle so buggy now [03:02:26] is it possible to set per-page editing permissions? (i.e. so only a particular user and sysops can edit a page) [03:02:43] like an extension for that or something [03:03:08] Why can't you use the regular protec ttab? [03:03:39] this isn't for wm, it's for a project i'm thinking of making on my own [03:03:53] i want to be able to set an "owner" for a page [03:04:16] Ack! Own! Evil! Oh well, it might be possible [03:04:17] and they can edit it, and sysops (or a new group) can edit any page [03:04:22] bah, this isn't for wikimedia [03:05:07] i'm thinking that wikitext might make a good medium between game walkthrough authors who can't or don't want to write HTML, and gamers whose eyes hurt from reading plain text files [03:11:15] so is there like an extension for that? [03:13:25] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EditOwn looks close, but it requires them to create the page [03:22:13] hey, i was talking with brion about fixing up my update.php script to update the whole wiki farm's databases, and now, wanting to install Oversight, does anyone know of a good way that i could apply the oversight SQL code (or checkuser or whatever extension i might need to add) to the entire farm? [03:36:00] hey guys [03:36:34] anyone interested in being a business partner? [03:36:38] Hello all, I want to add adsense above the tabs (p-cactions), but when I add adsense the tabs (p-cactions) get detached. Also I am unable to center the adsense above the tabs. Any suggestions how to fix this? [03:38:24] just give me a pm thanks [03:39:01] blob you are pretty hard up if you are looking for business partners on mirc [03:39:04] blog [03:39:14] no not really [03:39:27] it's sitepoint, irc, and existing contacts [03:39:28] unless it is amway... :) [03:39:31] kewl [03:39:34] lol wtf [03:39:52] and just recently i've diverted my business model from wordpress to mediawiki [03:39:57] it's something health-related [03:40:02] www.healthynerd.com [03:40:09] http://www.healthynerd.com [03:40:22] just my meaningless comments...plz ignore...I felt bad no one has responded yet, so I added my own two centrs [03:40:24] cents [03:40:33] that's ok [03:40:44] people at #demonoid are the real tards [03:41:33] damn, I used to get answers fast--now nohting [03:41:33] eHow.com uses mediawiki too no? [03:41:40] nothing... [03:41:47] maybe wrong time of night. [03:41:59] i wish i knew the answer [03:42:06] odes: css issue [03:42:13] sure you don't want it down the left side though? [03:42:16] How's the learning curve in getting acquainted with MediaWiki? [03:42:26] odes: where's your wiki? [03:42:35] 2odessa.com [03:42:40] want me to mess it up [03:42:42] i will right now [03:42:45] one sec [03:42:58] thanks random :) : ) :) [03:43:09] yeah do it - then give me sysop and i'll figure out a solution (it's easier to try different things and see what works if i'm doing it myself) [03:43:48] or i can just walk you through it - it'll take longer [03:43:53] ukraine [03:43:55] briet [03:43:57] allo [03:44:14] eh, i'l just walk you through it; turn on the ads so i can see how tall it is and where it goes [03:44:15] you mean give you the code for leechftp? [03:44:33] no, i meant admin on the wiki, but nevermind i don't need that i can test things on my browser with firebug instead [03:44:35] odes, is that a for-profit site? [03:44:43] yeah [03:44:53] just turn on the adsense, i need to see where it goes and how tall it is [03:44:54] but i make about $250 a year [03:44:59] okay one sec [03:46:34] i made the same last year lol [03:46:44] i have lots of questions random--how can you edit monobook.php in mediawiki? [03:46:48] damn and just for being insecure [03:47:02] okay, here it is [03:47:06] i changed it [03:47:12] odes: you wouldn't need to, it's a css issue only [03:47:48] wait... now you have the adsense inside the content, and the graphical banner outside it - i thought you said the adsense was outside the content [03:48:51] random, blog I am back [03:49:01] damn connection [03:49:12] odes: i thought you said the google ads were outside above the content - you have the banner ad above the content and the google ads inside *confused* [03:49:28] okay sorry--I now have two banners [03:49:35] the one inside is the old one [03:49:42] the new one is above the tabs [03:49:44] ok [03:49:54] as soon as I fix the new one, I will get rid of the old one [03:50:04] do you want the "log in" button to be at the top above the banner, or below it? [03:50:04] I know it can be done--here is a site: [03:50:39] http://www.drinkkiwiki.net/Etusivu [03:50:42] hmmm... [03:50:54] what do you think...above it I guess [03:51:03] yeah above... [03:51:06] you guys recommend any definitive guide to mediawiki? [03:51:36] there are some books you can buy at amazon just type mediawiki--albiet I have never read the book [03:51:55] this is a great resource too. [03:52:03] looking at some of them actually [03:52:34] http://www.amazon.com/MediaWiki-Administrators-Tutorial-Guide-installation/dp/1904811590/ [03:52:48] mediawiki is very helpful: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki [03:52:48] Packt Publishing [03:53:01] also, when I never get answers here, I post questions here: [03:53:25] Mizanur Rahman [03:53:25] http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7086 [03:53:44] that is my question, which I haven't got an answer too yet. [03:54:11] random was right, it is a css issue [03:55:01] http://organizedwisdom.com/ [03:56:09] what about this site, is it yours? [03:56:38] 'm working on css [03:56:53] margins and positioning can be tricky - the tabs are the things i dislike the most about monobook [03:56:57] you rock [03:57:06] have you noticed random... [03:57:17] that if you have a... [03:57:45] what are they called...like for example
and you forget
then it screws up the tabs? [03:57:49] do you want the logo at the very top left (to the left of the banner ad) or moved down so it's next to the content [03:57:56] that is what I think might have happened, what do you think? [03:58:07] top [03:58:13] no, it's just the fact that the tabs are positioned in a _precise_ place on the screen [03:58:18] so anything that moves the content box [03:58:20] won't move the tabs with it [03:58:21] oh...i c [03:58:26] and i didn't move them [03:58:59] can you move up the navigation and navigation/search toolbox? [03:59:49] i actually have messed around with the css before--can't remember where exactly. pain in the ass. I really appreciate it [04:00:02] what is the program you are using again? I got disconnected. [04:00:29] i'm just using firefox and firebug [04:00:36] firebug. [04:00:37] Kewl [04:00:37] yeah, i can move up the rest of the sidebar, that's what i'm doing now actually [04:00:42] it's an add-on to firefox [04:00:49] okay I will let you do your magic [04:00:52] interesting [04:00:57] i am looking it up now [04:01:21] what was this: http://organizedwisdom.com/ [04:01:23] ? [04:02:28] #p-cactions { top: 93px; } #p-cactions li { position: relative; top: 2.6em} #adsense { margin-top: 1.6em; margin-left: 15em; text-align: center} #column-one { padding-top: 50px; top: 1em; } #p-personal { background: white; width: auto; right: 0; left: auto } [04:02:31] that's the code you need [04:03:43] odes, a site based on mediawiki [04:03:47] i changed the background of the login / etc area at the top, since it's not very visible against your background [04:03:48] and a competition :) [04:04:14] odes, oh your problem was a css issue? [04:04:18] i should have known [04:04:27] you should have said so lol [04:04:37] blognewb: same issue anyone who tries to put a banner ad at the top of mediawiki has [04:05:20] well i thought he was trying to achieve it by using php or something else like a mediawiki template that im not familiari with [04:05:53] well i am using a mediawiki extension, but the generic one [04:06:10] okay, random, where do i add this? [04:06:37] i could look around for twenty minutes so i don't look as novice [04:06:44] but I would rather just ask [04:06:56] is it in monobook css? [04:06:57] lol [04:07:05] the banner ad that was showing up, while i was doing that [04:07:06] monobook.php? [04:07:09] was for a business forum with jimmy wales [04:07:14] yeah [04:07:16] odes: monobook css should be fine [04:07:17] you saw that too [04:07:19] lol [04:07:46] heard the scandals aroound him lately? [04:08:01] with the alleged funds and girlfriend? [04:08:03] who hasn't? [04:08:17] i just stubled upon it a couple of days ago. [04:08:26] i guess i didn't follow it [04:08:37] there was a good article in the economist about wikipedia this week [04:08:57] thanks random, lets see if it works :) [04:09:10] do i erase anything? [04:09:55] so could I modify this as a sysop on mediawiki? [04:10:16] just put it in either the skin's css file, or Mediawiki:Monobook.css [04:10:26] don't erase anything, but make sure you put it at the bottom [04:10:54] that is so cool [04:11:03] i didnt know that page existed [04:11:07] wow thanks [04:14:14] hello [04:14:16] damming [04:14:19] dammnit [04:14:32] guess i am odes 2 [04:14:42] okay random, I feel like an idiot [04:14:53] how do i add that text to: [04:15:03] http://www.2odessa.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css [04:15:10] nothing is happening [04:15:32] first of all, why is there [04:15:39] are their brackets ? Do I need brackets? [04:15:47] that shouldn't be there [04:15:52] i don't know i added it years ago [04:16:04] go ahead and erase it :) if you like or I can [04:17:22] you need to get rid of that and the thing [04:17:27] how did ehow.com make their wiki site look like that? [04:17:38] blognewb: probably a custom skin [04:17:44] oh [04:17:53] wait... is ehow even aw iki? [04:17:58] is mediawiki compatible with YUI CSS grids? [04:17:59] yes it is [04:18:11] the front page doesn't look like it is one, where's the wiki? [04:18:15] as does organizedwisdom [04:19:00] I don't see the wiki on ehow.com [04:19:35] oh - wikihow is the same people? [04:19:37] yeah, that's a custom skin [04:19:39] oh it's not a wiki but it uses wikimedia [04:19:44] yeah [04:19:45] lol [04:19:47] back [04:19:50] pretty weird no [04:19:51] odes2: did you take those out? [04:19:52] guess i have used this page before, rather ineffectively.... lol [04:19:58] that is what i wrote [04:20:04] mediawiki even [04:20:06] i lost the connection [04:20:07] one sec [04:20:22] dont tell me, you have to have sysop priveleges to edit that page [04:20:28] yeah [04:20:32] thought so [04:20:42] i can trust you if you want to register [04:20:49] but maybe i can fix it now [04:20:57] just take out the part that says [04:21:02] and the part that is [04:21:06] that's not css [04:21:45] fucking spammers [04:22:00] woah [04:22:01] it moved [04:22:12] did you do that? I must have [04:22:15] it worked [04:22:39] still broken for me [04:22:41] take out those two lines [04:22:48] doing that now [04:22:51] oh you did [04:22:55] my cache is the problem [04:23:06] yeah [04:23:10] you fixed it [04:23:19] you know hold down control then press reload [04:23:30] that doesn't always fix it with css on mediawiki, it's a pain in the ass [04:23:35] sure you do [04:23:43] really [04:23:43] huh [04:23:52] got it though - it's fixed [04:23:54] it worked [04:23:56] awesome [04:23:59] hey [04:24:31] can i donate something to you? you have a... [04:24:43] paypal account? [04:24:47] nah, it's no problem really [04:24:54] really awesome [04:25:00] i like the challenge of dealing with css stuff [04:25:03] you spent a half hour [04:25:23] i was doing other stuff - a lot of it was waiting for you to come back or to respond [04:25:31] it was only maybe ten minutes on actual writing css [04:25:49] lol damn connection--i am 600 miles from home in a hostel [04:25:54] glad to be home tommorow. [04:26:04] thanks random :) [04:26:07] no problem [04:26:08] goodnight [04:26:14] i will check out firebug too... [04:26:26] www.getfirebug.com [04:26:31] really useful for css and javascript stuff [04:26:36] actually it is aalredy downloaded as an extension [04:26:43] downloaded it earlier [04:26:50] about 15 min ago [04:27:23] hey anyway to change the background color of the my talk, preferences, my watchlist? [04:28:03] you don't have firebug? [04:30:01] man your wiki is all over the palce [04:30:05] place [04:30:50] blog, is that a good thing? [04:31:18] no [04:31:27] try line 41 or so of main.css [04:31:35] body background [04:31:45] change the hex value to your preferred color [04:32:15] avar: [[Template:Infobox Book]] fails? [04:32:24] okay [04:32:27] holy crap [04:32:37] everything screwed now [04:33:21] MZMcBride: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Infobox_Book#Titles_aren.27t_wrapping [04:33:36] thanks blog [04:33:49] odes2: ? [04:33:55] Hmm.. think moving it inside the box would fix it? [04:35:13] probably, works for Template:Taxobox [04:36:05] Purge and let me know. [04:36:44] It works now [04:36:50] mediawiki knows how to do purging:) [04:36:57] *amidaniel lols at "Purge and let me know" [04:37:26] hi random, everything is too the left now, and the navigation toolbar is at the bottom of everypage [04:38:49] odes2: what did you change? [04:39:26] it was working before [04:39:30] i need to go soon, it's past midnight [04:39:36] I understand [04:39:48] est like me i c [04:40:04] i removed the other adsense bar [04:40:29] odes2: if you can't find someone else to help you just change it back and come in here same time tomorrow maybe [04:40:35] i need to go, it's past midnight [04:40:56] what did you change between when it worked and now [04:42:43] sorry i couldn't help more [05:07:01] you still there blog? [05:11:23] 03werdna * r31841 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SpecialUnusedtemplates.php): * (bug 8157) Remove redirects from Special:Unusedtemplates. Patch by WebBoy. [05:12:19] 03(FIXED) Special:Unusedtemplates should not list redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8157 +comment (10Andrew) [05:16:31] <_pepo_> hi friends [05:16:47] <_pepo_> I've downloaded the xml file of wikipedia database. Please, How do I restore that file inside of my wikimedia? [05:17:25] !import | _pepo_ [05:17:25] --mwbot-- _pepo_: To import pages into your wiki, export them using Special:Export (see !export). Then, navigate to Special:Import on the target wiki and select the dump file. You can also import pages directly from another wiki (see !importsources). For mass imports, use the dumpBackup.php and importDump.php scripts (or mwdumper). NOTE: when using content from another wiki, follow the LICENSE TERMS, especially, attribute source and authors! [05:17:52] 03aaron * r31842 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (4 files): [05:17:53] *Remove tag hack [05:17:53] *UI cleanup, add extra notice on edit [05:17:53] *CSS tweaks [05:25:13] 03(NEW) Special:Categories&offset=lowercase does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13332 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (dotkorg) [05:25:33] 03aaron * r31843 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/flaggedrevs.css: 0 top margin [05:30:28] 03(FIXED) Capitalization consistency in special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11986 +comment (10Andrew) [05:31:10] *Werdna kicks CIA-43 [05:31:10] ow [05:31:27] 03werdna * r31844 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: (bug 11986) Revert special-page capitalisation to CamelCase (but the names are case-insensitive anyway), and add a few common-sense aliases (i.e. ResetPassword for Special:ResetPass) [05:31:27] 03aaron * r31845 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/flaggedrevs.css: 1em for box [05:33:49] using 'ab' I can get mediawiki to respond to about 3 or 4 requests per second .. is there a page for noobs explaining how to get better speed? [05:40:20] Hey, how can i edit the links on the bar at left hand side of the wiki? [05:40:22] 03aaron * r31846 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/flaggedrevs.css: Bump max width [05:44:56] !sidebar | Cryx [05:44:56] --mwbot-- Cryx: To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [06:11:24] i am looking for a mediawiki plugin that allows me to create flowchart, UML diagrams through the web interface [06:11:28] any pointers ? [06:13:37] 03raymond * r31847 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: Kill BOM [06:14:51] 03(mod) CAPTCHAs are not chosen randomly enough - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13286 +comment (10tstarling) [06:19:37] lol [06:19:47] *TimStarling just read the title of that bug he was commenting on [06:20:05] *Werdna is curious: Are they asking for a donation of an atomic random number generator? [06:20:15] birthdays aren't chosen randomly enough! [06:21:33] aren't they worried about the space size for captchas, rather than the randomness of a selection from that space? [06:23:26] 03(mod) Small CAPTCHA challenge set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13286 summary; +comment (10tstarling) [06:33:16] I run Debian Etch and I want the latest version of MediaWiki with support for LDAP. [06:35:27] I've read that the LDAP support is in SVN [06:35:38] What is the recommended way to install MediaWiki in this scenario? [06:47:36] 03dale * r31848 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/includes/MV_MetavidInterface/MV_EditPageAjax.php: fixed unset $wghooks['editfilter'] check [07:03:34] TimStarling: what do you think of wikimania in general? Worth a week of holiday time? [07:09:12] yes, I think so [07:09:33] I find it inspiring, anyway [07:10:23] I'm pondering seeing if I can get a scholarship to go to Alexandria, as it works out to be in the final week of my July holidays [07:16:12] hey, I could even work on those blocking changes that've been on the backburner for about a year. [07:22:42] 03raymond * r31849 10/trunk/extensions/DidYouMean/ (DidYouMean.i18n.php DidYouMean.php): * Add description message for [[Special:Version]] [07:51:42] 03siebrand * r31850 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for DidYouMean [07:59:18] 03raymond * r31851 10/trunk/extensions/MWSearch/ (MWSearch.i18n.php MWSearch.php): * Add description message for [[Special:Version]] [08:26:20] 03siebrand * r31852 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (42 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-03-12 08:55 CET) [08:27:09] <[blackb]> I changed [Mediwiki:Common.js]] with admin account about toolbar [08:27:31] <[blackb]> but when i enter with other account in my wiki server i don't see the changes [08:27:40] <[blackb]> wich could be the problem? [08:29:45] clear cache? [08:30:31] <[blackb]> yes sure [08:31:00] <[blackb]> the file i have copied is exatraeditboottons.js [08:31:11] <[blackb]> my with root account he is ok [08:31:21] <[blackb]> with other account i don't see nothing [08:33:25] <[blackb]> i could past samething on my mediawiki.CSS? [08:33:58] <[blackb]> but the file i put is .js [08:37:12] [blackb]: if you have javascript code you want to be executed always, for everyone, put it into MediaWiki:common.js [08:37:53] [blackb]: putting code on a page called exatraeditboottons.js or MediaWiki:exatraeditboottons.js or whatever will have no effect at all. [08:38:05] !javascript [08:38:05] --mwbot-- To set up custom javascript on a wiki, edit [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] as a sysop. If $wgAllowUserJs is true in LocalSettings.php, you may also edit the /monobook.js (assuming your skin is monobook) subpage of your userpage. [08:38:54] <[blackb]> how could edit /monoboo.js? [08:39:07] <[blackb]> [[MediaWiki:/monobook.js]] ? [08:39:14] no / [08:39:22] <[blackb]> i try [08:40:12] 03siebrand * r31853 10/trunk/extensions/ (141 files in 137 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-03-12 08:55 CET) [08:40:13] [blackb]: but why do you want to edit monobook.js when it tells you to edit common.js? [08:40:44] <[blackb]> common.js have the script [08:40:52] <[blackb]> extraeditbootns.js [08:41:07] <[blackb]> i saved it [08:41:16] <[blackb]> i see the changes on my root pages [08:41:32] <[blackb]> if i enter with pippo i can't see nothing [08:42:35] <[blackb]> "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MarkS/extraeditbuttons.js [08:42:49] <[blackb]> i copied this file on common.js [08:42:54] <[blackb]> saved all [08:43:20] [blackb]: i don't understand. where did you put it? common.js or MediaWiki:common.js or extraeditbootns.js? [08:43:34] <[blackb]> Mediawiki:common.js [08:44:17] also... that script is HUGE, what the hell is it doing? [08:45:24] <[blackb]> which i must copie to have same button? [08:46:03] i don't know. i don't even know what buttons it shows. and i dun't understand that code. [08:46:12] anyway: Mediawiki:common.js should be loaded by everyone. but users have to clear their cache first, or wait 30 days. [08:46:41] make sure you don't have $wgUseSiteJs = false; [08:47:05] <[blackb]> no it's true [08:47:24] then it should work [08:47:43] without looking at your wiki, i can't tell you more than that. [08:47:52] <[blackb]> could u see my wiki? [08:48:21] [blackb]: if you give me a working url... [08:48:28] the one you posted yesterday was not valid. [08:51:28] <_wooz> lo [09:10:01] 03tstarling * r31854 10/trunk/cortado/src/com/fluendo/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [09:10:01] * Fixed a bug whereby the application would become unresponsive if you clicked "stop" while it was buffering. [09:10:01] * Added more debugging output. [09:14:58] hi [09:30:10] nice, the live preview works well in konqueror 3.5 [09:52:41] hi guys [09:53:06] i was googling around trying to find out how to authenticate users against NIS, with no luck [09:53:10] any ideas how to do it ? [10:05:33] hi [10:05:47] suppose i want to have links on my mediawiki that open in a target=_blank [10:05:59] can that be done without too much hacking the code? [10:06:58] phrearch: you have to modify includes(Linker.php [10:07:05] s/(// [10:08:53] cool, thanks [10:15:16] 03ialex * r31855 10/trunk/phase3/docs/magicword.txt: update docs/magicword.txt [10:20:20] hi all [10:20:27] i'm slightly confused.. is the latest stable version 1.11.2 or 1.23.0rc1? [10:20:47] because it says in the download page that 1.11.2 is legacy version, and current is a release candidate [10:21:03] i'm running 1.11.1 which has a vulnerability, and not sure to which version i should upgrade [10:22:09] 1.11.2 is safe. [10:22:25] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/2008-March/000070.html [10:22:50] so if you're not comfortable with installing an RC, then *.2 is fine [10:27:09] xushi: 1.12.0rc1 is just in the process of being release, so there's going to be a bit of confusion for a couple of says with different pages stating different things bout which version is latest (it'll be worse when 1.12 proper is release) [10:29:04] 03raymond * r31856 10/trunk/extensions/EditMessages/ (EditMessages.i18n.php EditMessages_body.php): [10:29:04] * I10n one more message [10:29:04] * Updates German [10:35:11] thanks for the update [10:36:49] I'm comfortable with installing RC.. as long as they say it's stable and upgrading from it to the official is good.. oh, and as long as it has new useful features :) [10:37:17] hi folks. how can i change the title of an existing wiki page? [10:41:10] do i need to run the update script if upgrading from 1.11.1 to 1.11.2 ? [10:46:03] xushi: no [10:47:45] Hi everyone. I would like to set up a sandbox wiki on our office mediawiki installation - is this something that I can do with MediaWiki? I know that our old wiki on TWiki had a 'main web' and a sandbox by default [10:48:13] I've had a look at the sandbox on mediawiki.org but it appears to just be a page rather than a separate wiki [10:49:08] the problem with that is that users will see updates to the sanbox in feeds showing recently updated pages, and the sandbox will also show up in the site search [10:50:00] mr_shifty: maybe you can install a second wiki [10:50:00] mr_shifty, why just not installing a brand new mediawiki installation to serve as sandbox? [10:50:05] heh [10:50:09] *guillom pokes ialex [10:50:22] *ialex pokes guillom back [10:50:25] :) [10:50:49] :) [10:52:03] yea I thought about that, but then considered that if there was a way to simply create another wiki within the wiki (like a new namespace almost) that it would be tidier [10:55:49] Hi there. If I need to include mediawiki in an SVN repository for a site deployment [10:55:59] Should I set it up before or after I check it in? [10:57:02] you could set it up before and then svn ignore your local settings file [10:59:24] that sounds good [10:59:28] I'll do that, thanks. [11:00:00] are you wanting to deploy the same wiki to lots of different locations or maintain a single wiki? (probably should have asked that first) [11:08:45] why not just check it out of its own svn repos? [11:08:50] unless you want to modify it... [11:10:14] I presumed it would be rebranded or have a custom skin or somesuch :o [11:12:05] 03(mod) Edit preview doesn't let you preview cite.php footnotes. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5984 (10N/A) [11:12:09] 03evan * r31857 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/ (SpecialOpenID.body.php SpecialOpenIDFinish.body.php): [11:12:09] Some methods needed by SpecialOpenIDConvert weren't available. [11:12:09] I had to promote them from SpecialOpenIDFinish to the SpecialOpenID [11:12:09] class. I should probably isolate the consumer-only classes into an [11:12:09] intermediate class between the two. [11:12:23] Well the site itself will be deployed with the same wiki in a couple of different locations. [11:12:30] For testing and live deployment. [11:12:44] So some branding will be done to it. [11:12:53] I was thinking of using sqlite, if that's supported. [11:13:13] But rsyincing that, not storing in svn. [11:13:52] sqlite is not supported. uh, you want to deploy the same wiki data in different locations? [11:13:55] how does that make sense? [11:14:31] Content doesn't matter, but the site will be deployed to two locations at least, one for closed user testing and one for live deployment. [11:14:39] I don't want to manage two installations if possible. [11:14:50] Also, the site will be branded, which means modified templates. [11:15:13] I could just store the templates in the SVN but that still means I'm managing two installations. [11:15:16] with "templates" i suppose you mean "skins" [11:15:22] (templates are an on-wiki concept) [11:15:43] Well sure. [11:15:50] Terminology escapes me. [11:20:17] 03evan * r31858 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/ (OpenID.setup.php README): Increment the version number [11:20:32] So is what I am proposing a bad idea? [11:20:41] 03evan * r31859 10/tags/extensions/OpenID/REL_0_8_2/: Making a revision 0.8.2. [11:20:45] Seems to be somewhat negatively received. [11:26:59] I think it sounds fair enough, but I'm not a regular here :P [11:27:18] Standard software development practice - develop on your test environment, commit to SVN, deploy to live [11:27:40] SVN ignore the locale specific config files (Localsettings.php) [11:28:08] Presumably you're only editing flat files so you don't really need to manage database migrations anyway do you? [11:28:44] 03ialex * r31860 10/trunk/extensions/ (68 files in 25 dirs): setting missings properties svn:eol-style [11:29:44] 03mkroetzsch * r31861 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_Settings.php: +more docu for Factbox settings [11:38:52] mr_shifty correct [11:42:17] mr_shifty: mm how do you ignore a file? [11:45:10] hello [11:47:57] depends which svn client you're using [11:48:16] I use tortoisesvn - documentation is available at http://tortoisesvn.net/docs/release/TortoiseSVN_en/tsvn-cli-main.html [11:48:32] it tells you everything you need to know in there :) [12:00:04] 03gri6507 * r31862 10/trunk/extensions/WhiteList/ (3 files): [12:00:04] v0.8.3 [12:00:04] * i18n cleanup and translations [12:00:04] * whitespace cleanup [12:00:04] * expand wildcards for all instances [12:03:05] I don't see any i18n in that [12:15:32] 03raymond * r31863 10/trunk/phase3/ (117 files in 2 dirs): Remove message 'unprotectsub', unused since ages [12:19:01] oh the good old times when people didn't use away nicks [12:43:48] 03travis * r31864 10/trunk/extensions/YouTubeAuthSub/ (5 files): youtube authsub extension [12:48:27] 03(mod) Although I edited a page, I still see a previous old unedited version. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13330 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [12:52:17] could it be that i'm (sysop) able to turn javascript on and off for diffrent user groups? [12:53:10] mondschein: MediaWiki produces javascripts variables containing user name and groups [12:53:28] ialex: how do you mean that!? [12:54:11] mondschein: there is some variable in the source of the page [12:54:39] ialex: i putted javascript in mediawiki:monobook.js (extra toolbar buttons) every sysop is able to see them and normal users don't...they only see the "normal" toolbar [12:55:25] ialex: where do i find this source? [12:55:50] ialex: oh no not source...but point of the page where i put it [12:56:05] mondschein: by viewing the source of any page [12:56:34] ok and where do i have to look there...the source is rather "long"... [12:56:44] mondschein: is your wiki public ? [12:56:53] no :( [12:57:15] but i could poste the java code or source code somewhere and sen dyou the link [12:57:17] mondschein: err, what exactly do you want to turn on or off= [12:57:25] the ability to use javascript? or sopme specific features? [12:57:32] no [12:59:25] my problem: i have a extra buttons for my toolbar if i log in as sysop i see those extra buttons if i log in as an nomral user i don't the javascript for those extra buttons is in mediawiki: monobook.js and mediawiki: edittoolbar.js i also registered and test_sys this sysop is also able to see the extra buttons and my second test normal user isn't able to see them also...that's weird [13:00:50] so i thought maybe i configured something wrong... [13:03:51] <[blackb]> When i join on Mediawiki Homepage there is a toolbar message on the top thet says me Welcome to Wikisource, [13:03:51] <[blackb]> the free library that anyone can improve. [13:03:58] <[blackb]> how can i change thet? [13:04:08] mondschein: make sure it's not a caching problem. js is agressivly cached in some browsers (like firefox) [13:04:46] [blackb]: when you "join on Mediawiki Homepage"? what? where? url? [13:05:08] <[blackb]> http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Main_Page [13:05:27] <[blackb]> for example in the top of this page there is thet message [13:05:33] <[blackb]> i would personalize thet [13:05:55] it's just page content [13:06:02] like the rest of that page [13:06:08] duesentrieb:i just tried it as bureaucrat but it seems that only sysop are able to see the extra buttons...is there a explanation!? i also putted the js in mediawiki:common.js....but nothing :( [13:06:09] what du you mean with caching problem...usually it means that changes have happend but because of the cache everything appears to be just the same as before...but if i log out an in the toolbarbuttons get lost...i also emptied cahce via preferences (seamonkey) but nothing happend [13:06:23] [blackb]: look at the page source [13:06:30] <[blackb]> ok [13:06:54] "I have rollback rights on enwiki, a bunch of random groups on testwiki, and some rights on a random Wikia. Therefore I'm clearly qualified for sysop on mediawiki.org." [13:07:03] mondschein: sounds odd. can't help you without looking at the wiki. [13:07:26] Simetrical: bwahaha! [13:07:47] *Simetrical is actually a little more willing to give sysop if someone is a sysop on, say, enwiki or dewiki or whatever, but testwiki? [13:08:15] mhm :( [13:08:41] Simetrical: i'm beureaucrat on testwiki, i can haz cheeseburger now? [13:08:47] <[blackb]> var wgPageName = "Main_Page"; [13:08:47] <[blackb]> var wgTitle = "Main Page"; [13:08:59] <[blackb]> there is this 2 Variabile settings [13:09:20] [blackb]: look at the *Wiki*text. [13:16:17] <[blackb]> on the source of my html page you say? [13:19:17] Duesentrieb, Problem solvet. I had status also og "robot". If I lista "Show bots" in recent, all was there. Now I have removed my robot status :-) [13:19:54] BjornH: gah! [13:20:00] :-) [13:25:21] <[blackb]> it's difficult i don't change it :) i think [13:25:25] 03catrope * r31865 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiEditPage.php: (bug 13315) Adding section editing to API action=edit. Please read my post on the mediawiki-api list for usage notes [13:25:50] 03(FIXED) API editing should support adding new sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13315 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [13:26:38] hello :) [13:26:48] is it possible to open external link in new window/tab? [13:27:03] usually control+click [13:27:16] no, i mean link it [13:27:28] like [http://someting.com name] ... [13:27:52] nope, the control+click is there for that [13:28:21] no special command or settings for this? [13:28:40] no [13:28:50] ok, thx [13:29:07] the whole thing was to consider that a user know better than the redactor how to handle its tabs/windows [13:29:38] knows*. [13:32:07] Except that of course, most users probably don't know how to open links in new tabs/windows. [13:33:32] might be true :þ [13:34:07] ah. I just noticed something. [13:34:19] testing 1.12.0rc1 [13:34:39] When there are two sections having the same title [13:35:08] section editing redirects to the wrong one [13:35:24] after editing the latter and saving it, it will redirect you to page#anchor, but actually that will redirect you to the first [13:35:32] yup [13:35:56] it also breaks if you modify the algorithm which generates section edit anchors [13:35:56] Is that such a well known issue ? xD [13:36:11] file it in bugzilla if it isn't in there [13:36:16] really ? how's that ? [13:36:23] structural changes on database schema with new release? [13:36:36] the code that try's to guess the correct section is crap [13:37:01] asmarin: yes you need to run update.php if updating from earlier [13:37:09] ok [13:37:20] as it should say in release notes [13:37:36] yeah...im doing on a test environment [13:38:38] img_auth.php5? :-S [13:38:41] uhmm this is new [13:39:53] just redirects [13:40:30] q. what is the default name of the admin account on a custom install of mediawiki ? [13:40:58] the one you or someone put into installer [13:41:48] Nikerabbit: ok and what is the default name. the one suggested by the install. in short i know i kept the default name, but dont remember which one it is [13:42:01] WikiAdmin perhaps [13:42:13] you could look the user id 1 from database [13:42:44] Nikerabbit: well my sql skill are low :) [13:42:50] WikiAdmin doesnt seem to do it [13:42:58] Nikerabbit: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111 ! Quite an old bug in fact, looking at how low is the bug id :þ [13:43:09] will keep googling to see [13:45:40] Nikerabbit: actually, there are section numbers (action=edit§ion=X). How would that sound to have a "_sect_X" anchor ? [13:57:11] Nikerabbit: okay, say I wanna take a look about this issue. I'm totally new to the project. Did a co, what file could I check first ? (Or alternatively, is there is some "dev:how to start" doc ?) [13:57:41] 03catrope * r31866 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/includes/SpecialEditTest.php: ApiEdit_Vodafone: Adding section support to Special:Edittest [13:57:50] I tried the machine generated doc, but I failed finding a page which would provide an overview of the architecture [13:58:12] NicDumZ, try looking in docs/. [13:58:21] E.g., docs/design.txt. [13:58:33] A lot of it is outdated, but some is relatively accurate. [13:58:39] Simetrical: thanks, will do. :) [13:58:54] Most classes are in includes/ClassName.php, although there are some exceptions. [13:59:00] Obviously, have grep handy. [13:59:07] ahah :) [13:59:53] Most of the classes try to be fairly self-explanatory, so if you see $u = new User( $name ); $title = $u->getUserPage(); or something you should be able to figure out what it means. [14:00:08] Actually I think it's $u = User::newFromName( $name ). Or something. I can't remember. [14:00:29] If you can't figure something out, feel free to ask. [14:00:43] oh, thanks ! [14:19:45] 03catrope * r31868 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/includes/ (AutoLoader.php api/ApiQuery.php api/ApiQueryRandomPage.php): ApiEdit_Vodafone: Removing ApiQueryRandomPage, has been implemented (better) as ApiQueryRandom already [14:20:16] is there an extension which allows the ordering of pages? [14:21:22] i have this problem with 1.12rc1 [14:21:24] Fatal error: Class 'UserrightsForm' not found in /var/www/wikitest/extensions/Makesysop/SpecialMakesysop_body.php on line 226 [14:21:29] when use recent changes [14:22:01] oooppss a extension problem :-S [14:22:09] im going to disable it sorry :-$ [14:22:59] 03evan * r31869 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/ (OpenID.setup.php README): [14:22:59] Flag for OpenID-only sites [14:22:59] For some sites, they may want only OpenID accounts. There's now a flag [14:22:59] to hide Special:Userlogin and friends. It may be possible to create or [14:22:59] use local user accounts with this flag on, but it's unlikely that [14:23:02] users will do it by mistake. [14:23:04] like imposing a total order on a set of pages (within a category)? [14:23:09] uhmm upgrade looks fine :-D [14:24:31] yawn: you can specify a sort-key when categorizing a page [14:24:58] yawn: [[Category:Physicists|Einstein, Albert]] [14:25:10] Hello [14:25:15] yawn: but that won't give me stuff like next|prev, right? [14:25:23] *yawn talks to himself again [14:25:34] do you have any idea why I got this anormal result on this page: http://fr.ekopedia.org/index.php?title=-&action=raw&smaxage=0&gen=js&useskin=monobook [14:25:36] yawn: no. consider the fact that pages may be in multiple categories [14:25:43] yawn: look into the hierarchy extension [14:25:48] !e Hierarchy | yawn [14:25:48] --mwbot-- yawn: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Hierarchy [14:26:09] I'm trying to understand why my http://fr.ekopedia.org/MediaWiki:Monobook.js is not working [14:26:39] jlhenry: what's anormal about it? [14:26:41] It seems that my site js is not loaded [14:26:53] Duesentrieb: thanks, i'll have a look at it [14:27:05] Duesentrieb, it seems that it should load like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=-&action=raw&smaxage=0&gen=js&useskin=monobook [14:28:06] jlhenry: it looks like whatever MediaWiki:Common.js looks like [14:28:30] bah, wiki in doc root. evil [14:28:37] as you can see, my http://fr.ekopedia.org/MediaWiki:Common.js is full of stuff [14:28:55] it's not evil... :) [14:29:25] jlhenry: there's a syntax error in line 50 of the generated file, sais firebug. thats probably about line 45 or so in common.js [14:30:46] jlhenry: i don't think ou can do multi-line strings in javascript like this. you have to split & concatenate. also, theere are '' thingies in there that need to be escaped [14:30:54] jlhenry: in short, fix your js [14:31:57] Duesentrieb: hi, i make a upgrade to 1.12rc1 on my system, all looks fine, if i see any new error i pass to bugzilla [14:32:11] I'll install firebug. But I do not understand because I'm trying to add toolbar buttons and I used part of this Js: [14:32:11] http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js [14:34:21] And when I copy/past this code (http://fr.ekopedia.org/MediaWiki:Monobook.js) into my user js (Utilisateur:HertzZ/monobook.js), I got extra buttons. The thing is that when I look at html source code, I see that my js is load and this page is (trying to be) loaded http://fr.ekopedia.org/index.php?title=-&action=raw&smaxage=0&gen=js&useskin=monobook [14:35:16] jlhenry: you screwed up the code while copying it [14:35:35] look at the line containing Exemple1.jpg in the original [14:35:46] look at that line in your version - and especially at the lines following it. [14:36:30] err... wait... in the generedted version its messed up [14:36:37] but in Common.js it isn't?... [14:38:29] err, oh. uh, maybe the template in the js gets expaned on your site? it kind of looks like it [14:38:32] that would be bad [14:38:36] and i have no idea why that would happen [14:40:48] flyingparchment: Hi. I have a question about the modern skin, do you have a minute? [14:41:11] maybe [14:42:00] :) The type size of headline level 3 is smaller than that of level 4, is that a mix-up? [14:42:56] for example here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_permissions#Temporary_permissions_for_emergency_or_technical_purposes [14:43:24] how can i change the text in Special:Upload ? [14:44:37] thogo: there is no size set for any headings in the content [14:44:54] also i don't see the problem [14:45:25] flyingparchment: Hm, for me the headlines of level 3 look very small, whereas those of the lower level are much bigger. [14:45:40] which is the h3 and which is the h4? [14:45:44] godwin2: Do you mean MediaWiki:Uploadtext ? [14:46:25] flyingparchment: In my example? The linked headline is the higher one, the "Dsvyas@guwiki" is on the lower level. [14:47:08] looks fine here. perhaps something is wrong with your browser [14:47:14] o.O [14:47:20] I try with FireFox. [14:47:59] Thogo|trabajando: Yes, thx! [14:48:36] flyingparchment: Hm, right. In FF it looks fine. I normally use Opera. [14:50:05] Duesentrieb could it be a modrewrite issue? [14:50:22] jlhenry: no. completely unrelated [14:51:14] flyingparchment: gotan idea how a {{template}} in common.js gets expanded before it's output through the title=- address? [14:51:47] Duesentrieb, we have multiple wiki (6 languages) and it seems that the issue is the same on each: http://pl.ekopedia.org/index.php?title=-&action=raw&gen=js&useskin=monobook [14:52:43] flyingparchment: compare the line containing Exemple1.jpg on http://fr.ekopedia.org/index.php?title=-&action=raw&smaxage=0&gen=js&useskin=monobook (broken) and http://fr.ekopedia.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.js (fine). I got no clue. do you? [14:52:47] 03evan * r31870 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/ (6 files): [14:52:47] OpenIDClientOnly flag [14:52:47] Add a flag to disable the OpenID server aspects of the extension, so [14:52:47] that users cannot use their local accounts as OpenIDs on other sites. [14:52:47] I had a couple of admins ask for this, so here it is. [14:53:02] jlhenry: it appears to be a fundamental issue. quite odd though [14:53:29] using standard MW, version mediawiki-1.11.1 [14:53:54] well, i would say it's just a silly bug, but it would have happened on wikipedia too... [14:55:25] jlhenry: i can tell you that the problem is that something that look like a template on common.js is getting expanded before it's served to the browser. i can't tell you why though. [14:56:32] Hi, I wanna create a link [http://to.something/that+has+brackets[] in the query] string. [14:56:49] b4: use url-encoding for the brackets [14:56:55] good idea [14:56:56] thanks [15:11:39] Where can I find what piece of code is executed during a hook ? I read docs/hook.txt, but cant find the code for the hook "UpdateArticleBeforeRedirect", for example :) [15:12:44] (and surprisingly, grep wont help ?! ) [15:14:30] okay, got it. [15:14:51] It's only an event, and I could define hooks to run when this event is raised. [15:17:54] 03(mod) Allow explicit use of commons images when a local image has the same name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2717 (10danny_b) [15:19:49] 03raymond * r31871 10/trunk/phase3/ (149 files in 3 dirs): [15:19:50] * Add a nice fieldset around the input form [15:19:50] * Use proper XML functions [15:19:50] * Make the title/subtitle of input form consistent with move/delete/filedelete/filerevert forms [15:19:50] * Rename the former subtitle message to the new title message for all languages [15:19:50] * Rename the former title message to the new legend message for all languages [15:19:54] * Kill whitespaces [15:29:13] 03rotem * r31872 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update. [15:31:36] Notice: Object of class Title to string conversion in C:\Server\xampp\htdocs\MW_trunk\includes\Title.php on line 176
[15:32:15] 03siebrand * r31873 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFr.php: Fix syntax error from r31871 [15:32:18] Raymond_: check the protection title code [15:32:49] AaronSchulz: what do you mean? [15:32:56] http://localhost/MW_trunk/index.php?title=Sam_Donaldson&action=protect [15:33:06] *subtitle, I guess [15:33:11] mom [15:35:24] <[blackb]> sameone expert with server apache? [15:35:38] <[blackb]> i need redirect an url /mailman to mailman/listinfo [15:39:52] hi all i am looking for a "description of the database format and fields" but the link to schema.doc is broken [15:40:09] does not work: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/%2Acheckout%2A/wikipedia/phpwiki/newcodebase/docs/schema.doc?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain [15:40:47] Hi there [15:41:04] Treeform: that repository is loooong dead. [15:41:27] Treeform: that seems to be from a time where it was not even called "mediawiki". [15:41:36] like what, five years ago?! [15:41:40] that is from before phase 3 [15:41:45] yea [15:42:00] Treeform: where did you find that link? [15:42:44] i am a bit confused about different versions of the EditPage.php.... [15:43:05] Treeform: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout [15:43:55] some time ago i asked about this function internalAttemptSave (somebody here gave me some code that uses this function) [15:44:15] i tried implementing this code [15:44:21] but it gave me an error message [15:44:34] then i looked into my editpage.php and didn't find this function [15:45:17] but it is in http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/EditPage_8php-source.html#l00704 <- [15:45:43] i thought that my editpage.php was to old (09.2007) [15:45:57] but i downloaded the latest version with a newer editpage.php [15:46:03] and its not there either [15:46:08] why is that? [15:46:37] Asga: maybe because you didn't look right? or you donwloaded some strange version?# [15:46:46] the function exists in my version of the file anyway [15:46:55] > grep internalAttemptSave * [15:46:55] EditPage.php: function internalAttemptSave( &$result, $bot = false ) { [15:47:09] yes [15:47:09] hm [15:47:12] Last Changed Date: 2008-03-07 15:02:12 +0100 (Fri, 07 Mar 2008) [15:47:12] wait a sec [15:48:06] *Duesentrieb gotta go [15:48:24] 03raymond * r31874 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ProtectionForm.php: Fix PHP notice from r31871. Thanks to Aaron :) [15:48:42] how to enable multilingual support for mediawiki-1.11.0 ? [15:49:05] k [15:49:07] oh, curses two versions behind :( [15:49:50] ok now i am more confused [15:49:56] Can the language sidebar work or it has to be installed ? [15:50:14] in the newest downloadable archive there is internalAttemptSave [15:50:21] so ill use that one.. thanks Duesentrieb [15:51:47] Ok thats strange [15:52:02] in the newest version as i said there is internalAttemptSave [15:52:20] the version i downloaded like two days ago [15:52:51] doesn't have internalAttemptSave [15:53:03] altough that function was introduced 10.2007 [15:53:47] and it was not some strange version i think... it was: http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.11/mediawiki-1.11.2.tar.gz [15:55:17] Where can I find tutorials for translating an article in several languages ? [15:55:41] Why do you need tutorials for translating text? [15:56:42] Duesentrieb, i found it at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki [15:57:39] Asga: but how to have the language side bar for an article [15:58:03] okay then i understand your question [15:58:12] but im sorry... can't help you with that [15:58:50] Oh I been in three wiki channel and no one knows how :( [15:59:07] :( [15:59:25] maybe you wait some time and ask the question again? [16:00:19] I've just inhereted support for an internal mediawiki deployment and am hunting for a bucket of clues. Specificaly the search function is broken and I see no error details in the apache error_log. Are there well known resources to help me find a solution to my problem? [16:00:55] !langlinks | GNU_D [16:00:55] --mwbot-- GNU_D: Language links are links to translations of the same article on another wiki. For information on how to set up language links, see [16:01:11] Treeform: please fix the link :) [16:01:35] Duesentrieb, dont have an account [16:01:58] Treeform: you don't need one. [16:02:01] it's a wiki [16:02:05] anyone can edit, remember? [16:02:10] *Duesentrieb gotta go now [16:02:13] Duesentrieb: I'm looking at that, but that's too complicated. [16:02:36] well, there is no easier way. [16:03:42] ok fixed [16:03:47] Duesentrieb: this involves to have two media wiki's right ? [16:17:38] Duesentrieb, no Idea why, but since I removed the error code, I's now working [16:17:43] Duesentrieb, thanks!!! [16:17:46] örräry [16:22:18] arfgh [16:22:44] I haven't seen one new extension in svn that would use some sane current coding practices :o [16:23:11] i have a question regarding custom content namespaces [16:24:16] is there any non-obvious reason to avoid them? [16:25:23] i suppose categories are independent or ns, right? [16:26:45] if you mean WM projects, some interwiki bots sometimes get confused and start removing good interwiki to custom namespaces [16:27:17] no, it's for a closed user group. [16:27:28] only bot roaming is under my control [16:28:24] is there (similar to categories) a special namespace/prefix page for each namespace? [16:30:20] no. [16:30:25] ok [16:30:40] you could point to Special:Allpages with your desired namespace, though [16:30:41] so the only real "problem" is getting the default search to recognize the namespace, right? [16:32:35] hi. Special:Newpages list the new articles. when a new article is moved it still displays the old name. i want it to rename the new name. any idea? [16:33:19] page moves don't rename RC stuff [16:33:37] that makes it easier to follow [16:34:50] yes i understand the logic behind it. still i wanna change it :) i use it on main page and so the (often) mistakes are shown there instead of the corrected name. [16:36:08] a simple DB query could do it, prolly should be done as a hook [16:43:35] ok thanks will see what i can do [16:43:56] so yeah, per the PM, there are two ways you can go [16:46:40] 03(NEW) Different levels of protection should use different verbs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13333 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page protection; (random832) [16:48:15] 03(mod) Different levels of protection should use different verbs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13333 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [16:51:46] another question regarding namespaces: are categories usable outside the regular content namespace? or are the categorized pages always sorted with the prefix in front of them (in other words with an undefined order)? [16:55:57] 03(mod) Different levels of protection should use different verbs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13333 (10random832) [16:56:03] hiiiiiiii [16:57:29] yawn: unless you specify a sort key, pages are always sorted by their complete name in the category list (including namespace). that's a clearly defined order :) [16:58:08] 03(mod) Cortado speaker icon should become a volume control - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11248 (10tstarling) [17:01:10] 03(FIXED) Truncation of audio files in Cortado - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11232 (10tstarling) [17:04:34] 03(mod) Various strange effects with Ogg player at low-performance computers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11445 (10tstarling) [17:08:34] i have a skin problem. till now i only had monobook as the only skin. now i created a new skin which includes the monobbok skin. the two will stay available in the user prefs under /skin. now i want to force all registered users to use the new skin instead of monobook. i cannot rename monobook. what can i do? [17:09:09] 03(mod) Different levels of protection should use different verbs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13333 (10JSchulz_4587) [17:09:12] 03(mod) Make newpage patrolling available to autoconfirmed users on jawp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13055 (10aotakexxx) [17:09:25] problem is i cannot ask my 1500 users to change it in the prefs... [17:09:37] MONK3000: remove it from the available skin array [17:11:25] *AaronSchulz looks for what that's called [17:13:11] MONK3000: $wgSkipSkins [17:13:30] $wgSkipSkins( 'monobook' ); [17:13:39] ok found http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgValidSkinNames now [17:13:49] that doesn't do what you want, you need $wgSkipSkins [17:14:51] ok [17:18:31] ouch. gives me a blank page. my new skin is no real skin. it's a hack that includes the monobook. [17:19:06] but it's listed though. maybe i need to change includes/Skin.php ? [17:24:06] ok got it. must be a string. $wgSkipSkin = 'monobook'; [17:24:14] thanks again :) [17:27:25] ah. Still looking for a solution to bugzilla #111 : Since that when editing a section, the anchor is fetched from the new wiki text, there is no way to find the "right" anchor (that is, #anchor_N if there are several headers using the same title) without parsing the text [17:27:54] parsing the page again * before commiting the edit [17:28:48] MONK3000: $wgSkipSkins is an array [17:28:56] I guess that's why no one has ever fixed that one... (Still, it's frustrating ! :þ ) [17:29:32] you had $wgSkipSkin, not $wgSkipSkins, right? [17:32:56] 03evan * r31875 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/ (OpenID.i18n.php SpecialOpenIDFinish.body.php TODO): [17:32:56] Allow user to attach to an existing account at login [17:32:56] We connect an OpenID with a user account in the wiki. Previously, it [17:32:56] had to be a _new_ account. Now, after the login is finished, we let [17:32:57] you choose an account to connect to. [17:32:59] Note that if the OpenID nickname is set, and available, it will be [17:33:01] used automatically, without the user being asked. [17:37:15] 03ialex * r31876 10/trunk/phase3/includes/MagicWord.php: Link to docs/magicword.txt [17:45:52] 03evan * r31877 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/OpenID.i18n.php: [17:45:52] Slightly better notice if you try to log in when already logged in [17:45:52] Gives a link to OpenIDConvert. [17:56:05] hi guys, can someone tell me the best way to change the place where the search box is shown? [18:01:02] Insolit: edit the skin [18:01:44] so if my skin is monobook, i shall change the monobook.php that is the main file right? [18:02:11] MonoBook.php [18:02:48] is mediawiki capable of producing an RSS feed for recent changes? or is a 3rd party app needed for this? [18:02:58] gegema: click the 'rss' link on the recent changes page [18:04:29] re [18:04:54] flyingparchment Thanks >> Can that feed be manupilated so it gives a description of the changes, instead of just the page that has changed? [18:05:38] 03evan * r31878 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/TODO: TODO note [18:05:41] thanks jlerner [18:06:43] actually, am I wrong or no metadata is actually stored about section headers, and each time that you want to work on a section, you have to parse some wikitext ? [18:10:16] And if I'm right ; How bad would it be to STORE section headers into DB ? That would allow several upgrades, such as handling broken anchors, and having more consistent section links, instead of the current links that link to a page and then redirect to the anchor... [18:14:58] (please, please, tell me if I'm just being naive : I'm a rookie down there :þ ) [18:16:35] I missed your earlier statement, but yes, you are, about "the current links that link to a page and then redirect to the anchor...", as that's how HTTP works. page.html#anchor is the way to go, there is no other way to point one to a defined part of a page. [18:17:59] skiidoo: previous was "actually, am I wrong or no metadata is actually stored about section headers, and each time that you want to work on a section, you have to parse some wikitext ?" [18:18:32] I might not be clear enough (sorry) but as of now, there is no internal section linking [18:18:51] we have internal links, and on top of that, use anchors [18:19:14] but mediawiki could use internal section links, stored in DB [18:19:19] Links inside a page have to use anchors, there is no other way. [18:19:27] eventually using anchors, you are right [18:19:41] It's true that editing the section name breaks the links that link to it. [18:20:08] but I am merely pointing at the fact that since nothing is ever stored, there is no way to tell if an anchor is broken or not (a part from checking manually) [18:21:16] True. [18:21:36] stupid question, what's the difference between the "Go" and "Search" button below search bar? [18:22:09] 03river * r31879 10/trunk/tools/trickle/ (Makefile proto.c): [18:22:09] - HP-UX fixes [18:22:09] - allow $(CC) to be changed [18:22:09] Insolit: go looks for an article with the name you typed. search doesn't [18:22:13] So I was asking myself how costly would it be to store anchors in a DB relation :) [18:22:39] flyingparchment: so what does search do? [18:22:51] it does a searching without looking for an article with the name you typed [18:23:14] so what does it look for then? [18:23:23] articles which match the search terms you entered [18:23:34] type 'Main Page' into the search box and try 'go' and 'search' [18:23:42] ah got it [18:24:05] go looks for articles with the name we typed, search looks for articles with the contents we typed [18:24:12] got it flyingparchment thank you! [18:24:16] hi [18:24:44] im creating a mantis user authentication plugin for mediawiki, but i dont know how to read the blob from the mediawiki user table [18:24:52] anyone has some experience with this? [18:25:03] phrearch: which blob? [18:25:13] the user_password blob [18:25:26] by default it's md5(user_id + "-" + md5(password)) [18:25:38] (where password is the plaintext password) [18:25:44] ow cool [18:26:02] there's a setting to make it just md5(password) but i don't remember what it's called [18:26:11] (and very old versions only supported that method) [18:27:20] with a little luck mantis can use mediawiki's database to create a new user from a login [18:27:36] already halveway :) [18:27:51] hi i was wondering how to make a picture a link [18:27:51] 03brion * r31880 10/trunk/wap/hawhaw/hawhaw.inc: [18:27:51] Support Google Android's webkit-based mobile browser as mobile XHTML, [18:27:51] the same way we support the iPhone... seems nice. :D [18:27:51] Tested briefly with the emulator in the Android SDK. [18:28:10] 03mkroetzsch * r31881 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_GlobalFunctions.php: Updated docu/version URLs, updated minor version [18:28:45] flyingparchment: how bad was that idea of having internal section links instead of having the actual internal page link + anchor link on top of that (which does not allow to detect broken "anchored" links ) ? [18:29:17] NicDumZ: what is an 'internal section link' and an 'actualy internal page link'? [18:29:25] ah xD [18:29:27] lol [18:29:29] well. [18:29:40] when you do [[Page#anchor]] [18:29:53] the anchor is not stored as such [18:29:55] He wants to store the sections in the DB so broken anchors would womehow not fail anymore. [18:30:40] would be one of the upgrades, yeah ^ [18:34:22] all I was trying to say is that [[page#anchor]] is actually just a link to [[page]], with a "dumb" appended anchor. It is not a *true* section link. [18:35:09] flyingparchment, your sure about the hashing method? [18:36:51] the hashes dont match [18:42:20] is there an aditional hash for the pws? [18:44:05] HI, all. I know preload= preloads a template (or other existent page). Is there a way to preload _text_? [18:50:40] msh210: create a template with the text [18:51:00] won't work (in this case), ialex, but thx [18:51:14] msh210: why ? [18:52:16] because i wish to preload different things to create different pages, and those different preloaded texts are not the same as the pagename (so i can't just use {{{pagename}}}) [18:53:36] msh210: you can try to do it with javascript [18:55:06] hm... that's an idea... maybe AWB? [19:00:26] er, i didnt mean AWB. i meant extension:autoedit [19:08:47] 03btongminh * r31882 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialSearch.php: Enlarge the ridicously small search box. [19:11:39] 03(NEW) Beta.wikiversity interwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13334 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Interwiki links; (wikipedia.kawaii.neko) [19:15:03] 03btongminh * r31883 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialSearch.php: Add some CSS styles. [19:25:13] I'd like my mediawiki to be able to serve up more simultaneous pages. Is there a page somewhere that gives suggestions? [19:28:02] 03(mod) Special:Categories&offset=lowercase does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13332 (10dotkorg) [19:56:02] 03huji * r31884 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: * Adding/updating Persian translations [20:04:36] hey [20:04:42] can i put external links in MediaWiki:Sidebar? [20:06:24] phrearch: yes [20:06:26] phrearch: I guess so. [20:06:34] !sidebar | phrearch [20:06:34] --mwbot-- phrearch: To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [20:07:18] ah yes [20:07:20] thanks [20:07:36] domas [20:07:43] I will forgive you only if you fix https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13334 [20:07:53] or else I will not forgive you for all eternity :P [20:08:57] thats your problem :( [20:11:13] *Hojjat addes Domas to the list of "unforgiven" people.. and also CC's this to Metallica [20:12:13] "addes"!!! ;) [20:15:08] Is it possible to include something like {{Special:Contributors/{{FULLPAGENAME}}}} on every page? I.e. by modifying the skin? [20:15:58] 03(NEW) Allow localization of the phrase "ISBN" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13335 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (huji.huji) [20:17:14] BartVB: yes. btu i don't think it's easy. [20:17:49] everything is possible I guess but I was looking for an easy/clean solution :D [20:28:28] hm [20:28:41] im trying to open external links in a new window [20:29:04] brion: could you fix bug 13118 [20:29:06] please? [20:29:39] i thought we set up the group everywhere so it works properly with stewards [20:29:46] if not, i don't want to mess with that myself just now [20:31:23] brion: if that's like that, then stewards should be able to grant it, while bureacurats can't... I'm going to test this theory [20:32:13] domas come on [20:32:23] its a simple fix :P [20:32:35] is it not? [20:32:50] 03river * r31885 10/trunk/tools/trickle/trickle.c: - Interix needs #define _ALL_SOURCE for getopt [20:33:38] phrearch, one possible solution (found with Google :D): http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2317 [20:34:11] phrearch, or in the mediawiki manual :D http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Opening_external_links_in_a_new_window [20:34:25] brion: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13334 :/ [20:34:30] brion: negative. Stewards tell me that they can't grant patroller rights there. [20:34:46] thanks [20:36:13] brion: for the sake of translatabilty (!), isn't it better to have a tiny extension add this new group? [20:41:44] Hi [20:43:05] I'm looking to make a site for girls that'll something like cosmo. I and a couple friends want to be the only people to update it. It won't have a massive amount of pages and we probably wont be using dedicated hosting. Is MediaWiki right for us? [20:43:49] probably not. usable, yes, but probably not the best choice. [20:43:54] look into something leaner and simpler [20:44:06] What would you recommend Duesentrieb? [20:44:24] no idea, *I* use mediawiki, i just hack it until it does what i want :) [20:44:34] (or i write from scretch) [20:44:41] Oh. I cant do that. [20:44:42] mediawiki is only for boys! [20:44:49] >_< [20:45:02] flyingparchment - then what would you recommend for girls? [20:45:14] HollyCHolly, look into something like Joomla or Drupal [20:45:52] HollyCHolly: http://www.opensourcecms.com/ will let you try many different systems. See if you find anything suitable there. [20:46:43] 03(NEW) [[SMW::off]] Problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13336 trivial; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (dasch_87) [20:48:28] hm [20:48:38] drupal looks cool [20:48:40] external links in the MediaWiki:Sidebar wont open a new window [20:48:41] but ugly [20:48:51] only from the original link [20:49:19] ** http://jslplus.os-networks.net/forum|Forums [20:49:38] guess its not recognized as an external link? [20:49:58] lots of skins for Drupal. But Drupal does have a rather steep learning curve. It's really flexible/powerful but not for the faint of heart :) [20:49:58] phrearch: nothing in mediawiki opens in a new window. [20:50:27] i added a line to Linker.php, and now it does to ordinary external links [20:50:32] phrearch: i hate sites that pop up new windows. that should be up to the user. [20:50:46] ah well, if you hacked it. [20:50:49] no idea then [20:50:51] i hate it when im clicking and site, and i get redirected without warning [20:50:53] BartVB - OK i'll check out some others [20:52:55] flyingparchment what do you mean? [20:52:59] phrearch: i understand that (hence the icon on external links). but how is poping up a new window better? [20:53:04] I thought only girls were allowed to use it [20:53:32] it doesnt distract me from the original site [20:53:50] when i want to open a bugtracker/forum, than i prefer to have it in a new tab [20:54:27] tab, yes, window no :) [20:54:31] Is there a maintenance script to delete orphaned redirects? [20:54:38] *Duesentrieb opens pretty much all links in new tabs [20:54:57] phrearch: whatever. official policy is "leave it to the user". [20:55:25] Mike_lifeguard: no, since redirects are mailny meant for external links and searches. so they are typically orphans [20:55:42] ahh. true. [20:55:49] sure np [20:56:02] can it be done from the database easily? [20:56:12] listing them? yes. [20:56:27] mass deletion would be tricky. [20:56:55] you can probably change some existing maintenance script to take a list of pages to delete though, and kill each [20:57:12] I'm sure that's possible, but not by me :) [20:57:45] for finding all, i'd use this: select page_id, page_namespace, page_title from page left join pagelinks on pl_from = page_id where pl_from is null and page_is_redirect = 1 [20:58:43] *Mike_lifeguard doesn't understand, but copies to notepad [20:58:53] Mike_lifeguard: I'll create it for you [20:59:00] is there a special file for the sitebar? [20:59:01] ! :D [20:59:05] Mike_lifeguard: do you have direct access to the DB? [20:59:10] yes. localhost [20:59:16] phrearch: special file? what would it do? [20:59:22] okay, follow me on PM [20:59:28] formatting links? [20:59:41] or sending links to be formatted to Linker.php [21:00:11] phrearch: it's done in SkinTemplate.php or MonoBook.php (or Skin.php, but i don't think so) [21:01:00] thanks [21:06:52] Does anyone knows a good reson why I no more can open DESC pages of files with a comma in the file name? using a new skin "hack": http://rafb.net/p/z4uUlh38.html [21:07:59] good :D [21:08:01] it works [21:08:06] thanks Duesentrieb [21:08:19] np [21:17:49] I'm probably overlooking something but how do I get the name of the current article in a file like MonoBook.php? [21:18:15] or where can I find how I can get the article name? :) [21:18:18] two ways. there's the $wgTitle global, but globals are evil [21:18:34] BartVB: perhaps a new instance of Title [21:18:47] and then there's an entry in $this->data but i donÄt remember what it's called. look for

$this->data['title'] :) Thanks! [21:21:11] Duesentrieb: can I ask a stupid question please? [21:21:26] BartVB: check out if that is plain or html-escaped or whatever. i recall some nastiness. [21:21:43] Duesentrieb, I managed to include the special page in the skin file by doing: [21:21:46] $ContribExt = new SpecialContributors(); [21:21:46] $ContribExt->execute($this->data['title'], true); [21:22:25] Duesentrieb, good point. Will do, there are several entries with the title in $this->data [21:33:13] 03(mod) [[SMW::off]] Problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13336 trivial->04CRIT; +comment (10dasch_87) [21:33:23] brion: anyway you could sync the en.labs code? [21:35:00] i have a botched mass import where a single non latin1 character appears wrong [21:35:23] is it sufficient to change the page_title in the wiki_page table in order to clean up the page titles? [21:35:36] or is there something else? [21:35:50] there is also a small piece of text associated with each of the mentioned imports [21:35:57] where the problem also appears [21:37:09] AaronSchulz: i have a question about the revision delete stuff : why are all stuff called with isPublic = true for the history ? caching issue ? [21:42:08] AaronSchulz: moment [21:46:24] *White_Cat yawns [21:47:00] brion when you have a minute can you please review https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13334 [21:50:27] Extension:Username Blacklist says that it won't work with 1.1.11 -- but will it work with something newer than that? [21:53:09] !tias | Mike_lifeguard [21:53:09] --mwbot-- Mike_lifeguard: Try it and see. You learn much more by experimentation than by asking without having even tried. [21:53:29] *Mike_lifeguard is in the process :) [21:55:46] 7 previously passing test(s) now FAILING! :( [21:55:47] bah [21:55:52] *brion investiages before svn up time [21:56:15] 03siebrand * r31886 10/trunk/extensions/YouTubeAuthSub/ (4 files): [21:56:15] * use wfLoadExtensionMessages [21:56:15] * delay message loading [21:56:15] * split off class to seperate file [21:56:15] * update indentation and remove EOL whitespace [21:56:16] * update extension credits and add descriptionmsg [21:57:30] brion: "investiages" sounds really cool :) [21:57:37] *AaronSchulz ducks [21:57:41] hi [21:57:52] Is there something that's going to break if I allow usernames that end in an undercore? Mediawiki is authenticating against another user database which works pretty well except for those underscores :\ [21:58:13] ialex: that means histories hide junk regardless of the viewers permissions [21:58:25] they can click show/hide to see it (those with the rights) [21:58:30] any idea wtf this is? -> Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at C:\xampp\htdocs\mediawiki\extensions\ExtensionFunctions.php:2) in C:\xampp\htdocs\mediawiki\includes\WebResponse.php on line 10 [21:59:40] 03raymond * r31887 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: Localisation updates German [22:00:11] AaronSchulz: yes, but i think it would be useful to see the hidden information without needing to click on each show/hide link, with a link on the page [22:01:27] 03brion * r31888 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/parserTests.txt: Fix for r31844 -- pretty CamelCase special page names affect some test case results [22:01:41] *brion svn up time [22:02:16] Mike_lifeguard: means ExtensionFunctions.php line 2 made some output. likely an error message, or a bad start to the file? [22:02:18] Mike_lifeguard, you probably have some error in ExtensionFunctions.php around line 2 [22:02:41] brion: so, how about that revisiondelete merge ;) ? [22:02:44] brion; nice timing :) [22:02:55] AaronSchulz: \o/ [22:03:25] scap time [22:07:42] hi [22:08:19] when i want to delete an image i get: [22:08:20] Warning: mkdir() [function.mkdir]: Permission denied in /var/www/web10/html/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 1670 [22:08:31] whats wrong? [22:09:47] 03(mod) Field tab order broken in Firefox 3 beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13329 +comment (10huji.huji) [22:10:38] Do any of you run mediawiki on shared hosting? How well does it run? [22:11:30] HollyCHolly: avoid dreamhost like the plague [22:11:39] why? [22:12:18] I just heard mediawiki can run slow and would need dedicated hosting [22:12:32] For a site with 1000+ articles [22:14:35] it's not so much the size of the db [22:14:41] as the amount of traffic you expect [22:14:50] you can get by with shared hosting, depending [22:14:53] Say 100 hits a day [22:15:14] Hello [22:15:15] How many hits will you need in order to upgrade from shared to dedicated? [22:15:21] a lot more than that [22:15:32] 10,000? [22:15:42] probably more [22:15:46] OK [22:15:47] depends if it's all spread out, or all at once [22:15:57] Yeah [22:16:22] So mediawiki runs fast then on shared with "low" traffic and 1000+ articles? [22:16:59] should be fine [22:17:04] I'm having troubles with using nested templates [22:17:05] What wiki do you run jlerner? [22:17:30] a few - mostly work on http://organizedwisdom.com/ [22:19:17] Thats mediawiki? [22:19:37] y [22:20:07] It does look like wikipedia [22:20:19] *doesnt [22:20:33] 03(mod) [[SMW::off]] Problems - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13336 (10dasch_87) [22:22:41] Hi. [22:22:46] (again) [22:22:54] I'm trying to fix an old bug [22:23:24] and found SpecialMostcategories : line 40 - 41 : [22:23:53] $title = Title::makeTitleSafe( $result->namespace, $result->title ); [22:24:01] if ( !$title instanceof Title ) { throw new MWException('Invalid title in database'); } [22:24:07] PUKE [22:24:12] irc doesn't like copy paste [22:24:19] however, the function is supposed to return false [22:24:21] use codebin [22:24:37] (meh Pyroguy, only had 2 lines to paste) [22:24:51] when the title should be skipped [22:25:47] in Other Specialpages, there is no handling at all, and it causes bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 [22:25:47] ok what I have on the Dystopia Wiki is some things called User Boxes [22:26:03] But what I'm trying to figure is : should I raise an exception, or simply return false ? [22:26:04] they are templates that create a little square identifying a user as belonging to a group [22:26:13] http://www.dystopia-game.com/wiki/index.php?title=Template:Cookies [22:26:19] http://www.dystopia-game.com/wiki/index.php?title=Template:Team_Dystopia [22:26:35] the only problem, when I put multiple ones on a page [22:26:40] they don't list neatly vertically [22:26:47] they just pile up from right to left [22:27:05] I tried to fix it with this template, http://www.dystopia-game.com/wiki/index.php?title=Template:Userboxes [22:27:08] Pyroguy: you want a "clear: right" rule in the css class then [22:27:14] but when I use it the coding breaks [22:27:15] (or the style, whatever you are using) [22:27:47] huh? what breaks when and how? [22:27:55] try it out on a preview page [22:28:26] use {{userboxes|{{dystopia tester}}}} [22:28:52] it spits out all the inputs on the template for some reason [22:29:05] 03siebrand * r31889 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for MWSearch, and YouTubeAuthSub [22:29:09] 03aaron * r31890 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LogPage.php: [22:29:09] * Merge in log_deleted constants [22:29:09] * Add userCan() and isDeleted() [22:29:13] how can i avaoid that categories in a templated doesnt show up in the categorie list? [22:29:23] 03siebrand * r31891 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/Translate.php: Fix typo [22:29:58] use and [22:30:11] doesn't put it on the template's description page [22:30:21] only puts it on the description page [22:30:41] ok, thx [22:30:45] 03siebrand * r31892 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: Fix typo [22:34:15] Duesentrieb: could you please give me a hand on this : http://rafb.net/p/Rjlt4080.html (A or B ? ) [22:38:02] NicDumZ: that test is odd. makeTitleSafe will either return a title object, or NULL, afaik. so, check if it's null, and if so, return false. otehrwise, just assume it's a title object. if it isn't, something is very wrong and you should be happe to cause lots of error messages. [22:38:37] actually, this check was in SpecialMostcategories :þ [22:38:50] NicDumZ: actually, for any namespace/title pair you take from the database, it should nit return null. so you can probably skip that test alltogether [22:39:00] *shrug* [22:39:11] anyway, going to bed [22:39:20] Duesentrieb: see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11285, It can be null from older MW versions ;) [22:39:25] thanks, anyway ! [22:39:41] will post a patch overthere ^ [22:45:17] 14(INVALID) Beta.wikiversity interwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13334 +comment (10pathoschild) [22:46:42] found a tiny bug, probably not worth reporting :) includes/MemcachedSessions.php:3 says '$wgSessionsInMemcache' which should be '$wgSessionsInMemcached' (mind the extra 'd'). Just cost me 15 minutes of debugging :) [22:46:44] 03(mod) Beta.wikiversity interwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13334 (10pathoschild) [22:48:21] arg the "clear: right" kills the text formatting though [22:57:30] why cant i search numbers in mediawiki? [22:58:05] 03(mod) Field tab order broken in Firefox 3 beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13329 (10brion) [22:59:32] godwin2, because whatever search backend that's being used doesn't support it. Not MediaWiki's fault. [23:01:31]
i'm a mediawiki newbie, and i can't find an answer anywhere else. how do i change the layout of my wiki? (for example, the location of the logo) [23:02:58] godwin2, this might be due to short-words problem with mysql, read faq [23:03:11] Xax, CSS. [23:03:26] rainman-sr, what faq? [23:03:42] numbers in my wiki are eg: 123.231 [23:03:46] in this format [23:03:56] Simetrical: ty :) [23:04:14] godwin2, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ [23:04:15] main: its not so easy, take a look at some tutorials: http://www.google.at/search?hs=eFT&hl=de&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Ade%3Aofficial&q=mediawiki%20skin%20tutorial&meta= [23:04:15] !faq [23:04:15] --mwbot-- Before reporting a problem or requesting assistance, please check the FAQ first. The FAQ for MediaWiki can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ [23:04:42] godwin2: thats parsed as (123) (231) [23:04:56] i.e. two words of length 3 (dot is deleted) [23:05:12] how can i index this? [23:05:17] or dont delete dots? [23:05:35] numbers are only in titles [23:05:46] like "123.456 some pagename" [23:05:59] not sure if you can control that in mysql [23:09:19] 03(mod) Improper handling of invalid titles in some special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 (10nicdumz) [23:10:17] 03(mod) Improper handling of invalid titles in some special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 (10nicdumz) [23:14:58] ugh, ftp.mozilla.org is frickin mollases [23:24:59] Hey, what does an @ do at the beginning of a line in php? [23:25:55] Suppresses errors. [23:26:03] brion: if only there were ftp sites which copied the content from other, slow ftp sites so you could download them quickly [23:26:16] :) [23:26:25] Aha [23:26:32] *brion is narrowing down a firefox tab order regression [23:26:39] that seems to have happened last april and nobody noticed [23:41:53] Hi guys, feel like I'm banging my head against a wall. I've been trying to set up a template or an infobox on a private wiki, and I feel like I've read every document out there on creating one, but apparently, I'm not understanding some part of the process. Any ideas? [23:42:21] well, get a more specific question [23:48:32] Would anyone be willing to help me create a template or infobox? Maybe provide some guidance? [23:49:04] it's confusing [23:49:10] tomlowry: what are you trying to do [23:49:11] very [23:53:13] jlerner: test... [23:53:20] yes [23:53:26] jlerner: I'd like to create something like they have on wikipedia for album info [23:53:53] jlerner: for example, I like the way that the album info for "Dark Side of the Moon" is displayed [23:53:55] any experience with templates before? [23:54:04] none, unfortunately. [23:54:28] if you want it just to work like that, it's going to be tough [23:54:42] you could download all those templates, but it would probably be hard to maintain [23:54:43] i'm up for a challenge [23:55:28] just not sure where to begin [23:57:09] you'd need to copy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Album [23:57:25] and probably many more templates used by above [23:57:46] see list of templates here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Dark_Side_of_the_Moon&action=edit [23:59:33] just want to make sure that I'm doing this correctly...