[00:11:02] 03brion * r31947 10/trunk/phase3/includes/media/Generic.php: Fix double parentheses around file size on generic bitmap getShortDesc() [00:19:43] 03(NEW) MySQL Error - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13352 04BLOCKER; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Drilldown; (dasch_87) [00:19:49] 03(mod) MySQL Error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13352 normal->highest (10dasch_87) [00:25:03] Hmm, email subject in "emailuser" is in UI language, I just noticed, not in content language. Shouldn't that be changed? [00:27:49] siebrand, yes, that sounds right. [00:27:57] I don't want German e-mails from you. :P [00:28:14] Simetrical: you won't get that. You'll get a subject in Dutch. [00:28:38] Simetrical: if I find the message, I just change wfMsg to wfMsgForContent, right? [00:30:09] siebrand, yes, or add 'content' to the array if it's wfMsgExt. [00:30:22] Hmm, why did I think you were German? [00:30:36] Oh, well, non-English Germanics, all the same. :P [00:30:50] *siebrand softly kicks Simetrical. [00:31:39] 03siebrand * r31948 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialEmailuser.php: Email subject in content language instead of sending user's UI language [00:32:31] Simetrical: done and tested. [00:35:19] Simetrical: hmm, is this something that should be in RELEASE-NOTES? [00:35:37] siebrand, everything should be in RELEASE-NOTES. [00:35:43] okidoki. [00:35:46] Except if it's a purely internal thing that doesn't change functionality at all. [00:37:28] 03siebrand * r31949 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Log r31948 [00:38:32] I'm looking to write an extension that allows certain users to bypass the 6 account creations a day limit, but I'm not that good at extensions, yet. [00:42:19] Soxred93, why don't you just use the built-in rate-limit exemption functionality? [00:42:42] I meant like a new user group [00:42:54] (and besides, it's Wikipedia I would like to use this) [00:43:28] why would you need to make more than 6 accounts a day on Wikipedia? [00:44:02] to puppeteer obv [00:44:08] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:ACC [00:44:24] Skizzerz: to register your entire class of students on wikipedia [00:44:28] or to make sockpuppets ;) [00:44:35] Soxred93, then you want to request a new user group on Wikipedia. #wikimedia-tech was the right place. [00:44:48] You probably need consensus, etc. [00:44:57] And a bug filed, the standard procedure. [00:45:11] Well we're in the process of recruiting admins to ACC. [00:45:29] My Flash is broken, so I can't use it to make a Wikipedia ad... [00:47:54] Flash? o_O [00:48:32] That's what I use to make gif's [00:49:27] brion, it seems sysops are required to complete captchas to register accounts. That seems silly. [00:50:02] who trusts sysops anyway? ;) [00:51:44] Simetrical: and several months of red tape [00:52:53] 03(mod) MySQL Error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13352 (10dasch_87) [00:56:36] 03brion * r31950 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) [00:56:36] Some search UI cleanup: [00:56:36] * Remove two of three redundant instances of "Search" in the mini-form at the top of the page. [00:56:36] * Compact things a bit at the top -- remove the fieldset, collapse a blank line in the paging area. [00:56:36] * Include score info if provided (eg by Lucene) [00:56:39] * Format the score/size/date line similarly to LuceneSearch [00:56:41] ** but without hardcoding the color! [01:02:01] 03(mod) MySQL Error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13352 04BLOCKER->normal; highest->normal; +comment (10overlordq) [01:05:49] 03(mod) MySQL Error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13352 (10dasch_87) [01:05:59] 03brion * r31951 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialSearch.php: Use fulltext, not 'go', for the top form [01:09:41] ok time to head home methinks [01:11:00] 03aaron * r31952 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: Shorten message [01:17:16] 03dale * r31953 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (8 files in 3 dirs): adds per stream playback resolution controls [01:30:43] Hi all! [01:31:09] Кто-нибудь говорит по-русски? [01:31:18] is that russian? [01:31:36] Yes! [01:32:08] "Someone said in russian" [01:33:27] Where russian channel for mediawiki? I have some questions... [01:34:22] ChanServ* The channel [#mediawiki-ru] is not registered :'( [01:34:22] I said in russian... [01:36:12] Ok. This channel is empty... :( [01:38:55] Guys, where I can find the information on several questions? Whether me interests it is possible in MediaWiki to make sections and treelike structure? [01:39:47] I have create site with docs and manuals... [01:39:48] 03(mod) MySQL Error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13352 (10dasch_87) [01:41:27] 03dale * r31954 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/includes/ (3 files in 2 dirs): fixes for alternate sized Stream Player images [01:44:59] 03(FIXED) MySQL Error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13352 +comment (10dasch_87) [01:46:03] Bavlion: Yes, page sections are possible. For example, look at < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents >. [01:46:12] Bavlion: Clicking "[edit]" beside a section title will let you edit only that section. (You can't on that page because it's protected, but try on < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Preferences >.) [01:48:09] Ok. Thanks. I will read and try... [02:38:37] 03(mod) Different levels of protection should use different verbs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13333 +comment (10FT2.wiki) [02:42:43] 03(mod) Different levels of protection should use different verbs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13333 (10FT2.wiki) [02:43:30] *chuck reads that bugzila bug [03:25:23] Trying to get LaTeX installed. I have all the required software installed. texvc compiled. texvc runs from the commandline, but I can't find the output. [03:25:39] Any advice on how to get this going? [03:27:21] 03shinjiman * r31955 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [03:27:22] * Update Chinese translations [03:27:22] * Update Cantonese translations [03:27:22] * Update Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese translations [03:27:43] 03(NEW) Insallation of MediaWiki 1.12. 0rc1 does not find duff-util on FreeBSD 6.2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13353 major; normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (hagge.lists) [03:28:02] haha duff util [03:31:49] 03(mod) Insallation of MediaWiki 1.12. 0rc1 does not find duff-util on FreeBSD 6.2 - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13353 (10hagge.lists) [03:42:01] question to anyone sitting around the channel. I am looking at perform something with the same result as [ http://someurl/somefile.pdf#page=5 | click-here-to-see-pg5 ] using a pdf file located locally on the wiki, ie. [[media:somefile.pdf]]. Possible now, or need new php code somewhere? [04:08:12] Is there a significant lightening of the load on the Mediawiki servers when multiple api.php requests are combined? [04:08:47] Like, if I were to combine several list requests, would it be a lot easier on the Mediawiki servers [04:09:29] Oh, I mean the Wikimedia Foundation servers. [04:22:17] 03greg * r31956 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/updaters.inc: Patch from bug 13136 [04:22:41] 03(FIXED) Update does not work on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13136 +comment (10greg) [04:23:33] so... is there a way to disallow someone from logging in, without losing their login info? [04:24:24] 03emiller * r31957 10/trunk/extensions/GoogleMaps/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Google Maps Extension: fix some bugs in the KML exporter. [04:24:26] I don't think so, but blocking them has nearly the same effect [04:24:48] Mike_lifeguard: sortof.... but they can still log in and view pages [04:24:49] and does anyone know where interwiki prefixes are specified? [04:25:13] right, but they can view pages anonymously, and logging in doesn't let them do anything [04:25:24] (I guess they can see their watchlist or something...) [04:25:26] no, we disabled anonymous viewage. [04:25:57] ahh... well, no I don't think that can be done. At least I don't know how [04:27:33] hrm. ... maybe there's a wgGroupPermissions thing or something [04:39:31] 03greg * r31958 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Fix for bug 13251, allows some rebuld scripts to work with Postgres. [04:39:59] 03(FIXED) Maintenance scripts do not work with Postgresql - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13251 04CRIT->major; +comment (10greg) [04:42:12] 03(FIXED) Prepending minus sign(-) to search query causes PostgreSQL Error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13004 +comment (10greg) [05:27:16] hi, is there anyway to reverse an import job? [05:28:59] anyone here tonight? [05:29:49] Delete the pages? [05:30:31] i would have to do this all manually? i was just testing and accidentally imported around 500 pages..... ugh... nightmare [05:30:48] !e Nuke [05:30:48] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke [05:30:52] Try that. [05:32:15] installing now, i will be right back to share the hopefully good news! lol [05:36:39] hey guys how many sql databases does media wiki need to run [05:36:49] One. [05:37:13] install does not go right [05:39:24] http://www.nautf.org/mkportal/modules/mediawiki/index.php?title=Special:Nuke [05:39:30] i get this error, please see to understand [05:41:26] anyone know what could cause this? [05:41:44] Did you copy the files to your extensions directory? [05:42:23] yes, they are both there in the extensions directory [05:43:06] In a separate folder? [05:43:30] no, to the root of the extensions directory, does it need to be in a seperate folder inside the extensions directory? [05:43:53] I don't think so. [05:44:07] Whichever you pick, you just have to make sure you match that in LocalSettings. [05:44:15] i found out exactly what the problem is, one sec [05:45:04] ding ding din [05:45:09] i hate internet explorer [05:45:10] lol [05:45:36] Heh. [05:47:50] it wont let me delete the added pages, just some other random things i added recently that are older than the improt [05:47:53] *import [05:52:11] is there anything that lets you delete everything in a specific category? [05:52:39] Doesn't Nuke have a list feature of some sort? [05:54:10] nukedpl does, im trying that one now [05:56:53] 03raymond * r31959 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/SpecialSearch.php languages/messages/MessagesEn.php): * Use PLURAL for 'search-result-size' [06:01:10] 03(mod) Add Special:MovePage to Special:Specialpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13349 (10N/A) [06:02:27] 03(mod) Respect wgArticlePath and wgActionPaths options for all URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13348 +comment (10dan_the_man) [06:18:35] I've heard that combining several queries to api.php into one larger query reduces server load. If I were to combine several queries would it reduce my load on the server substancially? [06:20:34] And by combine, I mean add together several different list requests, a few page info requests, and perhaps a few revision requests into one query. [06:30:11] hi [06:31:32] is there a rails implementation for mediawiki availabe? [06:31:46] available; for the finicky ones! [06:32:40] hello CIA-44 [06:34:46] hello Danny_B [06:35:18] umarsheikh: rails implementation of mediawiki? [06:35:25] yes [06:35:36] haha [06:36:00] nopes? [06:36:37] no [06:36:41] looots of work [06:36:42] is it implemented in anything other than php? [06:36:50] I think Kelly Martin has done a bit in java [06:37:01] I don't know how comprehensive it is [06:40:06] ok thanks [06:52:23] Werdna, one more question [06:53:42] Werdna: how do u make this message come automatically, and where in the mediawiki code do we send emails to ppl watching an article? [06:53:45] Heh... porting MW to another language... rofl [06:54:13] ^_^ Not likely... MW is build uppon a lot of php dependant hacks, and keeps getting changed to much for porting [06:54:20] oh yes! [06:54:31] where in the mediawiki code do we send emails to ppl watching an article? [07:00:03] why can't mediawiki respect file:// -links in external links (inside the []) ? [07:00:52] i need to link to local lan server directories accessed with \\server\dir\dir\ and neither those nor file://server/dir/dir/ work in [] links [07:11:30] ahoi [07:15:49] hello world [07:17:28] does anyone in the world know where in mediawiki code we send mails ot ppl having pages on their watch list? [07:20:38] who is the king here? [07:22:16] Dantman|FS, i need someone to help me [07:22:33] Just started up Eclipse a moment ago [07:22:40] includes/UserMailer.php [07:23:04] oh wow! thanks! [07:52:14] 03raymond * r31960 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialSearch.php: [07:52:14] * Do not wrap checkbox and namespace name [07:52:14] * some XML tweaks [08:02:58] 03(ASSIGNED) Use of #ask+template in parser fucntions/annotations - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13336 04CRIT->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10mak) [08:03:52] 03(FIXED) garbled smw_semstats_text - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13340 (10mak) [08:05:17] ör [08:06:09] yak [08:06:17] + $out .= Xml::hidden( 'title', 'Special:Search' ); [08:06:36] does btongminh irc? [08:11:52] Anyone going to update Manual:Upgrading to 1.12??? [08:17:22] does it need any updating? [08:20:12] It's a misnomer to call it 1.11 if 1.12 is current [08:20:22] 03(NEW) Cannot edit section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13354 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (k9disc) [08:22:02] 1.11 is the current release version [08:22:30] in the box on the side of the page is a link to the upgrade manual for the current release candidate, which is 1.12 [08:25:24] and what about 1.13? [08:25:35] what about it? [08:25:54] how do we get it? [08:26:20] if you mean svn head, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_SVN [08:32:01] is that link supposed to go to 1.13? [08:32:23] no, it's supposed to go to svn head, which i assumed is what you mean by 1.13 [08:41:46] is there an 'invite' extension? [08:43:18] it'd be cool if there was, especially related with the ConfirmAccount extension [08:43:38] Indeed. [08:46:06] falieson, Sasoriza: i saw one mentioned yesterday, though i couldn't find a download. it was written by some wikia dev. [08:46:17] i think it was called "invite a freind" or something [08:47:17] http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Extensions <-- it's mentioned here, but there's no link [08:48:10] according to Special:Version, it's written by this guy: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tomaszklim [08:48:23] falieson: ask him :) [08:49:53] 03raymond * r31961 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialSearch.php: Oops, escape the output too. Thanks to Nikerabbit :) [08:50:44] sorry, got disced [08:51:03] yeah, i still haven't turned up anything [08:51:07] :-/ [08:52:49] good luck with that... lemme know if you find it [08:53:28] < Duesentrieb> http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Extensions <-- it's mentioned here, but there's no link [08:53:28] < Duesentrieb> according to Special:Version, it's written by this guy: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tomaszklim [08:53:29] < Duesentrieb> falieson: ask him :) [08:54:56] thanks flyingparchment [08:57:48] hmm... is there a way I can make a link to another heading elsewhere on the page? [08:58:32] <|Frederik> Is there a way to automatically create lots of users in mediawiki with an automatically generated password which is sent to them by e-mail? [08:59:35] |Frederik I would be interested in that, a nice alternative to invite [09:01:46] Falieson [[#heading]] [09:02:29] |Frederik: it probably wouldn't be too hard to write an extension for that. the alternative is to write an AuthPlugin for mediawiki that authenticates users against some other system that supports this. [09:02:49] actually, you'd probably not do it with an extension but with a maintenance script [09:04:27] <_wooz> lo [09:04:58] 03raymond * r31962 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialIpblocklist.php: [09:04:58] * Add a nice fieldset around the input form [09:04:58] * Add a CSS id for the table [09:07:02] Raymond__: the Special:Contribs
and some s could use some IDs if ya feel like it ^_^ [09:07:26] Splarka: yeah, I go through all forms :) [09:07:42] some more consistency [09:16:43] *Splarka gives Raymond a cookie [09:16:50] if only a sysop can add new users, where does a sysop do that? [09:17:16] jelle: index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&type=signup [09:17:22] jelle: special:createAccount [09:17:52] ok, Splarka is right for all versions < 1.12 :) [09:17:57] where can I find a list of these Special pages or special commands? [09:18:05] Special:Specialpages [09:18:13] raymond is right for wikilinking [09:18:25] although [[Special:Userlogin/signup]] works too I guess? [09:18:45] yes, introduces in 1.12 [09:18:50] -s+d [09:18:56] note that not all Special: pages are show on Special:Specialpages, certain ones don't appear, like Whatlinkshere, Recentchangeslinked, etc, that need parameters [09:20:16] ah, right. thanks. [09:20:55] one more question, I must have disabled new users a while ago, when adding a new user it says: your password is too short, must be at least 0 characters" [09:20:59] where do I undo this? [09:21:38] $wgMinimalPasswordLength [09:21:43] in LocalSettings.php [09:22:08] unless you mean something else [09:22:14] but at least 0 characters... strange error. [09:22:25] it is always at least 0 characters. [09:25:34] i usually use passwords with a negative length [09:25:38] makes them harder to guess [09:26:08] ;-) [09:26:09] what is the md5 for a string of length -1? ^_^ [09:32:19] flyingparchment: --> ts [09:32:47] Splarka: =xDEADBEEF [09:33:26] heh [09:45:21] 03(mod) New parser breaks some template expansion in Semantic MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12906 (10ThomasBleher) [09:54:34] 03rotem * r31963 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Update. [10:14:58] 03raymond * r31964 10/trunk/extensions/Renameuser/SpecialRenameuser_body.php: [10:14:58] * Add a nice fieldset around the input form [10:14:58] * Add a CSS id for the table [10:27:31] 03raymond * r31965 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialImport.php: [10:27:31] * Add a CSS id to the table [10:27:31] * Use proper XML function [10:55:00] any suggestions in how to make a lucid timeline in mediawiki? I would like to show when members joined and left [10:55:21] a lucid timeline? [10:55:55] as opposed to an irrational timeline? [10:56:14] http is stateless you dont know when people "leave" [10:57:34] Werdna or at least one that is unclear [10:57:45] yes :) [10:57:56] yup [11:00:28] hello. I want to use mediawiki for holding private information, (our internal documentation). Can the content be made visible only to authorized users? [11:01:20] zamolxes: just tell your http server to block access [11:01:25] with apache you can use .htaccess [11:01:33] zamolxes: don't listen to C-Otto [11:01:40] :) [11:01:42] better idea? [11:02:09] zamolxes: in your localsettings.php change this around *finding it* [11:02:39] i want to use media wiki for documenting our setups and stuff because everyone is familiar with the interface and markup , but it's not gonna be in anyway public :) [11:03:00] zamolxes: google $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false; $wgGroupPermissions['user']['read'] = true; [11:03:00] !access [11:03:00] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [11:03:09] Gracias laggy bot. [11:03:15] haha [11:03:28] thanks everyone :) [11:07:53] 14(INVALID) Recentchanges API fails when rcprop= patrolled and a callback are used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13351 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [11:10:56] Hi, is it possible to change the color of a wiki-link with something like that:
My Text [[My Link]]
? This does not work now. Where is the fault? [11:12:07] such a sick timeline -> http://www.ehartwell.com/InfoDabble/MediaWiki_extension:_Timeline [11:12:07] cna't figure out how to bring it into the wiki though [11:16:25] 03(mod) Cannot edit section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13354 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [11:18:13] !SIMILE [11:18:13] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "simile". [11:18:35] hmm.. anyone heard how to integrate SIMILE witih mediawiki ? [11:20:23] hi, anyone knows where i could find a documentation about SpecialUserlists.php? [11:21:55] i want to create a new page that display only a certain type of user i created [11:23:01] is there anybody there? [11:27:28] Where's the conditional {{#if and other such syntax documented? [11:27:32] hey guys [11:27:40] anyone here who uses Extension:ManageNamespaces [11:27:58] I can't seem to use it to define new namespaces [11:28:12] anyone an idea? [11:33:28] what do you want to define a new namespace? [11:34:13] hi [11:34:19] how can an admin delete a user? [11:35:14] Piero: well I want to have a namespace per project here [11:35:23] Piero: and not a separate wiki per project [11:35:27] it's a choice [11:35:40] Piero: do you use Extension:ManageNamespaces ? [11:36:02] no, but i created a new namespace for my project [11:36:31] w/o editting files on the filesystem? [11:37:16] basically i created a new group of user, and so i created a new namespace for them, so only them can edit the pages with this namespace [11:38:39] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Using_custom_namespaces [11:38:49] maybe that will help you [11:39:56] I know how to create a new namespace [11:40:07] I need to know how to do it with that extension [11:40:09] it doesn't seem to work [11:40:48] ok [11:42:09] 03(NEW) Error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13355 minor; normal; Wikimedia: wikibugs; (andrewcleung) [11:43:09] 03mkroetzsch * r31966 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (18 files in 4 dirs): [11:43:09] Extend queries to support sroting by multiple conditions; partially based on earlier patch supplied by Dmitry [11:43:09] Khoroshev [11:43:16] !deleteuser Insolit [11:43:16] --mwbot-- Deleting users is very messy and not recommended, because this breaks referential integrity in the database (they appear in many different tables like users, edit histories, recentchanges, preferences, etc). A safe solution is to block the users, and possibly rename them with . You can also try [11:43:19] dpy: * Make sure that the extension's directory is readable by the HTTP server [11:43:20] * Make sure that the file 'ManageNamespaces.namespaces.php' is readable & writable by the HTTP server [11:44:00] Piero: ugh. it writes into a php file? from the web? that's a piny bit SCARY. [11:44:17] Piero: ah.. [11:44:28] dpy: thats what it says in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ManageNamespaces [11:44:29] 14(INVALID) Error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13355 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [11:45:03] dpy: if you add extra namespaces in a function you registered with wgExtensionFunctions, does it dowk? [11:45:09] *work [11:45:19] arggg [11:45:22] in the notes [11:45:24] !!!! [11:45:24] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "!!!". [11:45:34] thanks Duesentrieb [11:45:53] Duesentrieb: I can add namespaces that way yeah [11:46:01] also, shouldn't admin have a special tab for special operations? [11:46:03] dpy: so what elese do you need? [11:46:17] dpy: that is a LOT safer and saner that writing to a php file [11:46:30] (no php file should be writable for the web user. ever) [11:46:45] Duesentrieb: hmm.. that's true... [11:46:58] Insolit: admins have special tabs for special operations on pages where they apply. or special links. [11:47:12] Insolit: there's no "adminning page". admin functions are presented in context [11:47:23] ok thank you [11:47:44] Insolit: for example, you should see "delete" and "protect" tabs on most pages [11:47:44] is it easy to add and customize left panels? [11:47:46] hmm.. anyone heard how to integrate SIMILE witih mediawiki ? [11:48:08] Insolit: and on history pages etc, you will have a "block" link next to the user names [11:48:14] !sidebar | Insolit [11:48:14] --mwbot-- Insolit: To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [11:49:27] must learn to use the bot :) [11:50:05] weird thing to install renameuser extension it asks me to checkout all extensions and put them in a Renameuser directory? [11:50:11] why checkout all extensions? [11:50:23] and put them all in a renameuser directory? [11:50:32] lies [11:50:58] I shall only download the renameuser extension right? [11:51:26] i suppose it tells you to checkout all extension files. i.e. all files of this extension. [11:51:45] anyway... [11:51:47] !bundles [11:51:47] --mwbot-- unofficial bundles of extensions are at . Note that these are random snapshots and may contain a completely broken version of the extension. [12:01:56] grrr, I keep getting "You are not allowed to execute the action you have requested" with my ordinary user name ... [12:04:30] !permissions [12:04:30] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "permissions". You might try: !newusergroup [12:04:39] !newusergroup [12:04:39] --mwbot-- To create a new usergroup, simple set permissions for that group in LocalSettings.php, using $wgGroupPermissions. Then, simply add users to that group [12:04:52] !grouppermissions [12:04:52] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "grouppermissions". You might try: !newusergroup [12:07:17] Insolit: thank you for your help, but I'm trying to make sense out of Jean-Lou Dupond's extensions... which are meant to be frontends for all of this [12:08:33] fixed [12:08:44] you have different rights for edit, create and createpage... [12:08:51] awesome! [12:09:40] dpy: i was trying to help myself [12:09:42] lol [12:10:14] !rights | Insolit [12:10:14] --mwbot-- Insolit: For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [12:10:43] ah there it is :D [12:10:46] thanks Duesentrieb [12:10:54] i added an alias [12:10:59] !permissions [12:10:59] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [12:11:20] :D [12:32:16] mh if i add $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; to my LocalSettings file, i get a Fatal error: PHP Fatal error: Cannot redeclare writemessagestofile() [12:32:22] any ideas? [12:33:19] Insolit: what file? [12:33:35] (I don't think you've given us the full text of the error) [12:33:36] Cannot redeclare writemessagestofile() (previously declared in /srv/www/wikisiemens/maintenance/language/writeMessagesArray.inc:19) [12:33:51] in that file [12:33:56] uh, any more? [12:34:16] just the referer: referer: http://wiki.medlab.siemens.pt/wiki/Special:Userlogin [12:34:59] what extensions do you have installed? [12:35:49] just Renameuser and Translate [12:36:05] try disabling Translate. [12:36:08] see what happens. [12:36:08] ok [12:36:14] Insolit: i very much doubt that the wgGroupPermissions line has anything to do with the error. [12:36:27] it worked now [12:37:04] Duesentrieb: maybe translate has some weirdness with it [12:37:07] Duesentrieb: with translate and wgGroupPermissions the error occurs [12:37:25] with just one of them enabled no problem happens [12:37:37] well i disable translate then [12:37:44] Insolit: you sure? that sounds extremly strange. [12:37:54] not to say, totally unlikly [12:38:03] Duesentrieb: well i can assure you this happens here [12:38:27] *shrug* [12:38:29] retesting: just with translate things go ok [12:38:45] translate + wggroup definition system fails [12:38:50] just with wggroup it works [12:39:44] Nikerabbit and siebrand wrote that extension [12:39:49] Nikerabbit: any thoughts? [12:39:51] redeclaring a function is always an error [12:40:04] i don't see why that extension should declare the function only if some permission is set [12:41:00] anyway, the extension should safeguard against the function already existing. i suppose it's a version clonflict: the function was moved into core at some point [12:41:15] but that doesn't explain any dependency on permissions either [12:42:26] if you want me to try to debug something please be free to ask me that [12:42:32] *be=feel [12:42:34] 03mkroetzsch * r31967 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (14 files in 2 dirs): For help on querying, link to documentation on semantic-mediawiki.org by default [12:43:14] Insolit: set $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = true; and see if it still happens [12:43:35] Hi all, anybody know how to disable Image Thumb in mediawiki? [12:43:59] Duesentrieb: it does not happen with variable set to true [12:44:39] liuyan: please use normal text like normal people. [12:44:54] Insolit: this is very strange indeed :) [12:45:02] !thumbs | liuyan [12:45:02] --mwbot-- liuyan: For information on configuring thumbnailing on MediaWiki, please refer to . [12:45:35] not sure it can be completly disabled any more [12:45:53] Is it possible that users define if a page they create may be edited by others? [12:46:03] Insolit: no. [12:46:24] Insolit: well, there are extension that try to do something like that. but you get a crude hack at best. [12:46:31] i see [12:46:41] !cms | Insolit [12:46:41] --mwbot-- Insolit: You are advised to install an appropriate content management package if you want per-page access control and similar restrictions. See if you really want too. [12:46:41] so rights administration can only be done by the admin right? [12:46:59] sorry, i switched a wrong input method. [12:47:42] Insolit: there's no page ownershipo, and no per-user permissions, and only limited suzpport for per-page restrictions. [12:47:48] Insolit: it's a wiki, not a cms [12:47:53] true [12:48:11] that's wiki policy [12:48:12] :) [12:48:18] understood [12:48:54] just one more question (i hope :P) are the left bars customizable by users? [12:49:06] no. [12:49:18] well, using javascript hacks, yes [12:49:20] example, can a logged user have his own sidebar where he puts the links to the pages he likes most [12:49:39] no. [12:49:43] ok [12:49:57] though that would be an interesting feature :P [12:50:01] that's a nice idea for an extension though. shouldn't be too hard [12:50:14] find someone to do it :) [12:50:22] or do it myself :P [12:51:14] well i guess i can say wiki is finally installed :) [12:51:38] skin customized and configuration done :) [12:52:08] do you guys know the person responsible for writing the css? [12:52:36] for the monotype skin [12:57:44] Insolit, Gabriel Wicke. [12:57:53] 03(NEW) SMW Factbox XHTML fails W3C validation (patch provided) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13356 minor; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (max) [12:59:39] \join #wikipedia-cs [13:00:19] "SECURITY UPDATE: code execution via integer overflows." [13:00:26] That's just cool. *Integer* overflows? [13:04:10] *dungodung desymmetrizes Simetrical [13:06:22] 03simetrical * r31968 10/trunk/phase3/skins/MonoBook.php: Remove some weird whitespace that's always annoyed me and seems to only keep EOLs aligned, not anything that you'd actually have reason to want aligned. [13:07:35] Murder! [13:07:50] 03catrope * r31969 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQueryRevisions.php): API: Added rvsection parameter to prop=revisions to allow fetching the content of a certain section only [13:09:58] 03rotem * r31970 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Fix. [13:13:40] mwbot: i've just read that page, and it does not figure out how to DISABLE image thumbing, not enable it [13:16:34] 03(mod) Some template conjunctions is not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13224 (10galder158) [13:16:56] 03mkroetzsch * r31971 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/articlepages/SMW_TypePage.php: Close Bug 13350 (feature request), code supplied by S Page [13:18:18] 03(FIXED) The type page for a built-in datatype should display smw_isknowntype ( and smw_isaliastype) message - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13350 (10mak) [13:20:27] 03(NEW) #time displays wrong day when given date as input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13357 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; (jerome-ml) [13:21:09] 03mkroetzsch * r31972 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_Factbox.php: fixed Bug 13356 [13:21:28] 03(FIXED) SMW Factbox XHTML fails W3C validation (patch provided) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13356 (10mak) [13:23:43] hi, as i got no answer on #wikimedia-tech (yet): http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Edit_-_Protect lists an api call for (un)protecting a page which shall be available since 1.12. the call is not listed on the help which one gets when opening http://de.wikinews.org/w/api.php (version is 1.13alpha). is the call available and only the help outdated or is it not? [13:24:00] 03simetrical * r31973 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [13:24:00] Per suggestion on wikitech-l, use "Create( this page)" instead of "Edit( this [13:24:00] page)" when the page doesn't actually exist yet. It makes quite a bit more [13:24:00] sense. (Incidentally, am I the only one who finds it weird that different skins [13:24:00] use different messages? They probably shouldn't use raw wfMsg() either, unless [13:24:02] that's getting escaped later somewhere.) [13:24:59] is it a correct syntax: list of moderator ?? [13:25:10] to pass moderator as param? [13:26:52] can u pass a parameter to the special page Listusers using the '?' ? [13:27:12] come on someone plz [13:29:51] Piero: MediaWiki's syntax is not the same as normal HTML. Type in [[Special:Listusers/moderator|list of moderators]] to achieve what you want [13:30:58] i just type that without the tag ? [13:31:33] just this on the edit screen: [[Special:Listusers/moderator|list of moderators]] [13:32:29] 03(mod) #time displays wrong day when given date as input - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13357 (10jerome-ml) [13:39:55] Jack_phoenix: see im not on the edit screen, im in the php code. I created new right menus, and they are auto generated with strings, and this code you gave me will be treated as a string, it needs to be an it needs to be html [13:40:16] why did you edit the code instead of using the existing method of adding new menu items? [13:41:21] i didnt do it myself, i joined this project 2 weeks ago [13:41:52] we're modifying the core, we're not using the media wiki language [13:42:27] ok i found its workin [13:42:29] :p [13:42:31] you should stop doing that [13:42:41] ".wfMsg('guidelist')." [13:43:02] im told to do that, i dont choose.... [13:43:20] they created a new skin completely different [13:47:12] Hi I can't seem to find how to block a certain IP :/ [13:47:28] sorry for the noob question, but some ip from india is spamming [13:51:39] axod: where? your own wiki? [13:52:22] axod: Special:Blockip [13:52:41] thanks [13:53:11] ah I don't have perms [13:53:22] so I have to edit something to add my user to sysop group? [13:53:32] you need to ask a bureaucrat to do that [13:54:35] heh [13:54:35] it's my install, [13:55:15] then you should have created your account during the install, and it will have the appropriate rights [13:55:26] hmm odd, ok, [13:58:36] flyingparchment: i was wondering if you might be able to help me with an infobox / template question [13:59:43] 03raymond * r31974 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Localisation updates German [13:59:57] hey people - when i search my 1.5.7 wiki for 3-letter words, it displays no pages - how can i change this? for example, if i search for "ups", i get nothing, although there are documents with "ups" in them... [14:01:13] 03raymond * r31975 10/branches/REL1_12/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesDe.php: Localisation updates German [14:06:16] Werdna: ? [14:08:24] Insolit: translate may not be compatible with mw <= 1.11 [14:09:28] hi [14:09:43] just building my import from smb-share using importImages.php script [14:10:08] during those test i have uploaded many files and now i am wondering why i got errors while deleting them [14:10:12] fishsponge: afaik that restriction is in mysql [14:10:37] and 1.5.7 is old [14:10:41] or in other words: while deleting those files using the mediawiki interface, i get the hint thatthe mv to /delete was not working. Output: file was deleted [14:10:56] file is not longer listed in files, but i can find the files on cli [14:11:07] does that sounds like a filepermission problem ? [14:11:36] odb|fide1_: yes. [14:11:56] odb|fide1_: make sure you have a dir called deleted under images, and make sure it's writable [14:12:07] yes i have a dir delete [14:12:28] its writeable but i thing my uploaded files are woned by root ,cause my upload cron is based on root :D [14:12:30] delete*d* [14:12:44] guess i should a chmod to the upload [14:12:48] *add* [14:12:56] you should probably nor tun that script as roo either [14:13:02] true too [14:13:11] well i am still testing :D [14:13:15] but yes [14:13:32] anyway, even if the file is owned by root, the web user can move and delete it if it has the sppropriate permissiosn to the folders. [14:14:48] ok, guess i have to clean first, before modifiying the upload script and testing again [14:17:39] is the sul thing on its way or something? [14:17:49] because the test.wiki tool is gone [14:18:35] Duesentrieb: what are the attributes which could cause a failed rename of an image while using the delete function ? [14:18:41] the folder is exiting [14:18:57] the *deleted* folder [14:19:06] could someone help me with an infobox formatting question? [14:19:07] White_Cat: there was some testing yesterday, and it seems that it screwed up some mail addresses (even in "dry" mode). so tim disabled it completly again. [14:19:34] uh oh [14:19:53] hi Duesentrieb [14:19:57] Duesentrieb can you run a tool identifying which wikis have a user "cool cat" [14:20:00] odb|fide1_: well, who owns it, what are the permission? smae question for the folder the image resides in before deletion, and the image itself. [14:20:13] I am getting them all renamed and I want to know which ones are left over [14:20:21] folder and file was owned by www-data [14:20:27] that why i was wondering [14:20:27] White_Cat: there are at least two tools live that do that. i don't know the urls though, try google [14:20:35] mh ok lets see what i find [14:20:38] thanks so far [14:20:49] ownership and persmissions [14:21:05] and is www-data the user that runs php scripts? or are you using suphp? [14:21:12] is safemode off?... [14:28:33] I am trying to create infoboxes on my wiki, but, they aren't positioned on the right side of the page, and they do not have a border around them - any ideas? [14:30:53] hi [14:31:03] can i change the "image:something.pdf" to "file:something.pdf" ? [14:32:36] Nikerabbit: does that mean it's not possible? [14:34:49] 03(mod) Add Special:MovePage to Special:Specialpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13349 (10AlexSm) [14:35:12] godwin2: image: will always work, but you can add "file" as an alias [14:37:42] godwin2: see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgNamespaceAliases [14:38:10] godwin2: note that media:something.pdf also exists, it has a slightly different semantics. it links dorectly to the file, instead of the description page [14:43:41] Is it possible to force Mediawiki to allow usernames that end in an underscore? Have been digging through the Mediawiki code for quite some time now but I'm still not sure of the answer. Of course it's possible but I'm not sure if this can be done with a few lines of code, I'm not looking forward to do a partial rewrite of Mediawiki :D [14:44:41] BartVB: no. user names have to be valid page names, and underscores are quivalent to spaces in page names. and leading or trailing spaces are not allowed. [14:45:39] I'm not using the User: namespace so as far as I can see there is no real need for usernames to adhere to the Title rules? [14:46:34] But it's rather hard for me to assess the implications of allowing non conformant usernames. Mediawiki contains a fair amount of code :) [14:47:11] if usernames aren't valid titles, most of the interface which displays a username will break, because it uses wiki syntax [14:48:32] ok, but all usernames are displayed through $Linker->userLink(), it shouldn't be too hard to fix any problems there? [14:48:35] 03rotem * r31976 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Update. [14:49:24] already changed that function to link to the existing profiles on my site instead of the Mediawiki pages so this shouldn't be a problem. Not using Title::makeTitle() there. [14:55:19] BartVB: if you want to rip apart the way mediawiki assiogned user pages, you are on your own, sorry. [14:55:36] using userpages that are different from what mediakwiki expects may have odd effects. [14:57:23] well, 'rip apart' is putting it a bit strongly :) I've only replaced the links that userLink() creates, that's all. No use in having two profiles per user on the site. [14:57:57] Mainly curious if something else can break except for the userpages, i.e. things like permissions, bans, search, etc? [15:01:05] 03(NEW) Diffs rendered incorrectly under Firefox when a URL is changed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13358 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (meno25wiki) [15:08:38] I've run in to a weird problem on Wikinews and have been trying for days to figure this out. http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Template:Source is including every article that uses it in http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:Citation_templates A bunch of other templates are doing this as well and I can't figure out why [15:28:27] 03(mod) Renaming a namespace in Arabic Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9917 (10meno25wiki) [15:28:27] my capcha for fa.wiki was "lubestold" [15:28:45] obviously the wiki inteface denied me entry :P [15:32:51] i have a function isThereAGuide() that returns a boolean, i call it with a hook, will wfRunHooks('isThereAGuide') return a boolean or is it just in the function? [15:35:29] do hooks return the value returned by the function or not? anybody knows? [15:36:36] Piero: does doc/hooks.txt not say? [15:37:48] well from what i read in hook.txt, it looks like yes, even if its not explicit. But when i try here, it doesnt work.... [15:38:18] i kept re reading my code over and over and i dont see any other mistake.. :( [15:39:06] are there tools for visualalizing mediawiki content connections? [15:43:32] i found my mistake sorry about that... [15:45:05] is there an extension that I can use that enhances the index page of the wiki.. more dashboardish.. like "Whats new here..", etc [15:49:38] 03(NEW) Double quotes converted to " in Special: Allpages which leads to an error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13359 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (meno25wiki) [15:56:23] I installed Mediawiki but when I try to browse to localhost/mediawiki my browser ask if I would like to download a file instead of loading my config page. I think this is a Php configuration issue. Can anyone help? [16:18:48] So ... [16:18:54] I have a MediaWiki installation, and I would like an automated (macro-based) copy of a series of pages to create a new page structure - can anybody reccomend a MediaWiki extension (or maybe basic feature that I didn't know of) that does this? [16:19:11] To elaborate a little: [16:20:36] maybe pywikipediabot can do things you want [16:21:35] I have a series of "template pages" (they are not MediaWiki templates in the proper sense of the word, no transclusion is being done) that specify a way of laying out and presenting a set of information. These are used to store information about a specific subject. When a new subject is added to the Wiki, I'd like to be able to instant-copy those template pages to create a new page structure for that new subject. [16:21:48] pywikipediabot eh? [16:22:22] that's a bot infrastructure that may help with mass editing [16:22:30] Hmm ... [16:22:47] but it may not fit your needs [16:22:51] However, if it's an infrastucture, that means "have to do some coding in Python to make it actually do anything"? [16:22:57] because you seem to need something more dynamic [16:23:05] Oh ... [16:23:07] of course :) [16:23:29] Well - it doesn't need to be too exciting/dynamic [16:23:33] The intended result is: [16:25:04] I have a new subject named "Apples", and so I want to create a new copy from the pages "Example:Weight", "Example:Size", "Example:Colour" and turn them into three new pages called "Weight-Apples", "Size-Apples" and "Colour-Apples" [16:26:47] Yes, I considered using namespaces for the subject pages btw, but this isn't my system, only one I set up ages ago (when I knew less about MediaWiki). I'm not employed to maintain it anymore, and the person who is is ... I wouldn't trust them to do anything in localsettings.php without screwing it up [16:27:08] So I don't want to confuse them with registering new namespaces [16:28:17] Any other suggestions? A quick way of doing those copies (without just using copy-paste on a keyboard?) It's actually more than three pages, it's more like 15, so would be nicer automated, but not the end of the world if it had to be copy-paste ... [16:35:40] 03yaron * r31978 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticCalendar/ (INSTALL includes/SC_GlobalFunctions.php): New version: 0.2.1 [16:41:50] OK, thanks for the suggestion, shame it didn't work out, but at the end of the day, they can just copy-paste [17:11:13] is there a little more detail of the imagelinks table than on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Imagelinks_table [17:11:44] what kind of detail could you want? [17:12:23] if you haven't already, you should read tables.sql [17:12:26] which has comments in it [17:12:39] what does each of those fields represent? how does il_from tie into the rest of the database [17:12:55] brion: where is that? [17:14:52] 03(mod) Cannot edit section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13354 +comment (10k9disc) [17:15:39] 03(WONTFIX) Add Special:MovePage to Special:Specialpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13349 +comment (10brion) [17:15:57] 03(mod) Respect wgArticlePath and wgActionPaths options for all URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13348 (10brion) [17:18:26] hello peeps :) is there anyway to find another template for the wiki site? like themes or something? :) [17:18:51] Betacommand: in mediawiki... [17:18:57] maintenance/tables.sql [17:19:01] same place it's been since 2002 [17:19:54] well atm im just browsing the site .. not sure about if i wanna get into it or not yet :D [17:30:02] does anyone know of a good twiki to mediawiki converter? [17:31:26] 03aaron * r31980 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php): Shorten some messages [17:33:31] 03(FIXED) Diffs rendered incorrectly under Firefox when a URL is changed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13358 +comment (10brion) [17:34:34] 03(mod) Cannot edit section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13354 (10roan.kattouw) [17:34:55] interesting... firefox 3 on windows doesn't seem to like italic arabic text [17:35:32] 03(mod) Insallation of MediaWiki 1.12. 0rc1 does not find duff-util on FreeBSD 6.2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13353 (10brion) [17:36:48] 03(mod) Image truncated comment chopped UTF-8 character - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11087 (10brion) [17:37:21] brion: You may want to fix your mail client's GPG plug in, it is currently corrupting the > on quote lines. [17:38:12] *brion stabs gpg [17:38:42] enigmail never used to do that [17:38:42] wtf? [17:38:45] It's a Thunderbird issue afaics, I had a siilar problem when first installing enigmail. [17:38:55] i've used enigmail for years, never seen this [17:38:57] Some setting in the Thunderbird about:config thing, there's some FAQ about it. [17:39:29] enigmail.mozdev.org uses an invalid security certificate. [17:39:29] The certificate is not valid for any server names. [17:39:29] (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain) [17:39:32] *brion stabs firefox 3 [17:40:05] http://www.mozilla-enigmail.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12 [17:41:53] well, let's see if that helps [17:41:54] 03aaron * r31981 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: Typo [17:44:39] 03siebrand * r31982 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (77 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-03-14 18:02 CET) [17:48:26] brion: why? [17:48:34] why what? [17:49:23] the FF stabbage? [17:50:14] they've made is verrrrrrrrrry difficult to visit a site with a self-signed SSL cert [17:50:23] it's a big pain in the ass [17:53:10] hello, i want to hide the main page title. I have version 1.7 mediawiki. directions are here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#How_do_I_hide_the_main_page_title.3F problem is, there is no explanation where you add this javascript. Where should I add this in what file? [17:55:37] hello? anyone know where I should put that javascript? [17:57:51] 03(NEW) Please change the logo of eu.wikt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13360 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (spacebirdy) [17:59:09] odes2: Probably /wiki/Mediawiki:Commons.js [18:02:30] 03brion * r31984 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialAllpages.php: * (bug 13359) Double-escaping in Special:Allpages [18:03:52] 03brion * r31985 10/branches/REL1_12/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SpecialAllpages.php): * (bug 13359) Double-escaping in Special:Allpages [18:16:15] siebrand, ping .. [18:16:28] Wiredtape: protocol error. [18:17:24] :) [18:17:36] new updates for socialprofile.. [18:19:50] Wiredtape: can you drop me a mail please? Too tired to do hard stuff now and will probably forget. You can send it from any Wikipedia. [18:20:11] np :) .. is it late now in nl? [18:22:34] Hi, how can I create a template? [18:22:54] well, there's some weird rendering problems with ie8 beta [18:23:09] if I search I get the option to create a page. [18:23:10] ie8 beta is already out? [18:23:34] but I don't think that's the same as a template. [18:23:34] for like a week or so [18:23:34] MrHappy, creating a template is just like creating a page, but you need the Template: namespace.. [18:24:05] ok, makes sense, how do I create an article in the Template: namespace. [18:24:07] brion, hmm.. so things can change overnight :) (haven't been around for a couple of days..) [18:24:38] search for Template:test [18:24:50] then click on create this page? [18:24:54] MrHappy, that depends mostly on your wiki.. if you have short url's or regular. easiest way to do it, would be to reference the template in a page you intend to use it and then follow the link.. [18:25:02] that's also a possibility [18:25:06] Wiredtape: nope. 19:24. But it was really early before I got to bed and still early when I got up... [18:25:16] default install of Mediawiki. [18:25:41] MrHappy, then where you see index.php?title= you can type Template: [18:25:58] ah, good idea, will go with your suggestion. [18:26:03] create the link then click on it. [18:26:12] siebrand, ahh.. have sent the e-mail. go to bed :) [18:27:19] template is curly brackets instead of square brackets. [18:27:25] yes. [18:30:24] Oh no... [18:30:57] *VasilievVV wonders why Werdna did introduced this ugly camel-case special page naming [18:31:34] nice it works. [18:31:38] IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN! [18:31:46] never done that before. [18:32:00] Thanks Wiredtape. [18:32:06] np, MrHappy [18:32:35] Schroeder, is it? [18:32:37] <[diecast]> is there a howto to send all users an email if a new page is created, regardless of 'watch' status [18:32:59] 03(FIXED) Double quotes converted to " in Special: Allpages which leads to an error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13359 +comment (10brion) [18:33:13] yes, it is [18:33:23] [diecast] , don't know of a way to do that, but if you write a mailing list extension, i know it could be usefull :) [18:33:41] Hello. I am trying to put dynamic pages on /w/ and normal pages on /wiki/ so that robots just only see /wiki/. [18:33:41] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Robots.txt#how_to_set_up_a_url_like_in_wikipedia.3F [18:33:41] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rewrite_rules#rofro.27s_solution [18:33:41] I have currently the wiki on /wiki/ and I do not know which howto to follow. [18:34:37] Schroeder, so.. is there anything I can do about it? - How about if I put a paperbag over my head. (Reference, HG2G) [18:35:20] <[diecast]> Wiredtape, that does not sound pleasant at all (not the bag thing, but the mailing list thing) [18:35:40] [diecast], you find putting a bag over your head as pleasent? :) [18:35:50] <[diecast]> not mine, yours ;) [18:35:53] *pleasant [18:36:03] <[diecast]> hehe [18:36:19] :) - you could have the db give you a list of users and their e-mails.. (for the ones who gave their e-mails) [18:37:18] <[diecast]> so where do i see the code that says "new page is created" to insert my mail notification [18:37:29] <[diecast]> which file i mean, if you know off hand [18:37:45] it's a hook, which me thinks.. [18:37:46] !hook [18:37:46] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "hook". You might try: !hooks [18:37:49] !hooks [18:37:49] --mwbot-- Hooks allow you to run functions at various points in the main MediaWiki code. For more information about using hooks in MediaWiki, see . [18:38:06] <[diecast]> ok, ill give it a shot [18:38:13] mwbot, if you know that I mean !hooks when i write !hook, why don't you just show me what i want when i write it? huh?! [18:45:06] has anyone come across this error "You tried to edit a section that doesn't exist. Since there is no section , there's no place to save your edit." ? [18:45:33] luna6: yes, why? [18:45:56] i am getting this error....and its bugging the heck out of me :) [18:46:11] What did you do to get it? [18:46:13] trying to update a category page ...and i keep getting that [18:46:27] im not 100% but i think maybe switching to fancy urls ? [18:50:17] http://asianmediawiki.com/index.php?title=Category:Actors <-- page i want to edit [18:50:41] when i try to edit it...i get that error [18:51:15] now that url ...was something I used before the fancy url [18:53:51] 03(NEW) Overprinting of checkbox text in MSIE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13363 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (brion) [18:54:18] 03(mod) Internet Explorer 8 (MSIE 8) tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13361 (10brion) [18:54:24] so [18:54:25] how are everyone's steak and a blowjob day celebrations going? [18:54:34] steak and a blowjob - two bits [18:54:44] ... [18:55:04] do I have to explain Steak and a Blowjob Day to you people? [18:55:35] 03(mod) Internet Explorer 8 (MSIE 8) tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13361 (10brion) [18:55:54] 03(NEW) Misaligned form fields in MSIE 8 beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13362 minor; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (brion) [18:56:13] Schroeder: remind me to pick up some steak at the grocery store on the way home [18:56:38] do you really feel that strongly about your grocer? [18:57:02] brion: does IE8 crash a lot? [18:57:04] heh [18:57:08] I hope not, I had to give up on 7 [18:57:19] AaronSchulz: so far i've gotten it to hang for a couple minutes on Special:Allmessages and SPecial:Allpages [18:57:27] but my VM has only 512mb of ram and it's running vista [18:57:31] so it may jus tbe swapping :) [18:57:40] 03(mod) Internet Explorer (IE) issues on Windows (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=640 (10brion) [18:57:41] hi ! [18:57:55] brion: sorry for the misunderstanding on #11087 [18:58:14] 03(NEW) Internet Explorer 8 (MSIE 8) tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13361 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (brion) [18:58:57] it always starts with an install page, then gives a JS error (in it's own website) [18:59:05] then when I go to wp, it crashes [19:01:46] 03vasilievvv * r31987 10/trunk/tools/planet/ru/config.ini: Update Russian planet [19:05:57] i'm wondering if I try to edit "http://asianmediawiki.com/Category:Actors" once I click edit .. the url turns into "http://asianmediawiki.com/index.php?title=Category:Actors&action=edit" [19:06:15] could that be cause of the "You tried to edit a section that doesn't exist. Since there is no section , there's no place to save your edit." error ? [19:07:43] actually, luna6, it seems to behave normally to me [19:08:07] i think you would see the error if you had an account ? [19:08:34] i remember i set up editing for only registered users a while back [19:08:45] when trying to edit an article, the url always turns into http://base/index.php?title=Foo&action=edit [19:08:53] ah ok [19:09:19] whats weird is the categories i want to edit...spits that "does not exist error" [19:09:35] but most of the category's that already has been edited continues to edit fine [19:10:12] if you would like to see i will be happy to make you an account [19:11:44] thanks, luna6, but I don't think that I would of a much useful help, sadly :( [19:12:06] ok not a problem thanks for the info anyways :) [19:12:15] I only knew about the casual link format :) [19:12:34] http://asianmediawiki.com/Category:Japanese_actors <-- i can edit this section [19:12:57] http://asianmediawiki.com/Category:Actors <- i cannot edit this page [19:13:16] i get the "You tried to edit a section that doesn't exist. Since there is no section , there's no place to save your edit." error [19:13:41] baffling that the Japanese_actors category allows edits and Actors does not [19:13:56] i just want to put in a simple {{TOC}} for that page [19:14:18] why would a TOC be helpful anyway ? [19:14:37] the number of articles is starting to get high (over 600) ... [19:14:43] one category has text in it, another hasnt [19:14:49] so a ... A B C D option would be nice [19:16:11] yes [19:17:01] i just want to place {{CategoryTOC}} into http://asianmediawiki.com/index.php?title=Category:Actors [19:17:25] but the darn thing spits out "You tried to edit a section that doesn't exist. Since there is no section , there's no place to save your edit." when i try to edit that page [19:20:20] another category page like "http://asianmediawiki.com/Category:South_Korean_actors" does allow edits.. [19:22:03] 03btongminh * r31989 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/SpecialSearch.php languages/messages/MessagesEn.php): Some tweaks to the search form. [19:22:09] luna6: Can't you just edit the whole page and save? [19:22:33] i think thats what im trying to do [19:22:49] i hit the edit tab on that page (http://asianmediawiki.com/index.php?title=Category:Actresses) [19:22:55] and it spits out the does not exist error [19:23:40] page title turns into "No such section" and then You tried to edit a section that doesn't exist. Since there is no section , there's no place to save your edit. [19:23:40] Return to Category:Actresses [19:24:00] brion-away, "Bugzilla has suffered an internal error. Please save this page and send it to brion@wikimedia.org with details of what you were doing at the time this message appeared." Giant black-on-red text: "There was an error sending mail from 'bugzilla-daemon@mail.wikimedia.org' to 'gangleri@torg.is':error when closing pipe to /usr/lib/sendmail:". This was when switching the blocking/depends on bugs for 13326. [19:25:34] luna6: Can you edit other pages? [19:25:40] yes [19:25:50] Hmm. [19:25:59] Can you edit other categories? [19:26:00] http://asianmediawiki.com/index.php?title=Category:South_Korean_films <-- allows me to edit [19:26:31] http://asianmediawiki.com/Category:South_Korean_actors <-- allows me to edit [19:26:42] just can't edit [19:26:43] http://asianmediawiki.com/index.php?title=Category:Actors [19:26:49] http://asianmediawiki.com/index.php?title=Category:Actresses [19:26:56] http://asianmediawiki.com/index.php?title=Category:Directors [19:27:21] only thing I can think of is that I never added anything to those last 3 categories before switching over to fancy urls [19:27:41] other category pages i did add things before switching to fancy urls [19:27:47] but not sure if that is the problem [19:28:01] but there are other empty category pages i can edit [19:28:10] luna6: Category:Directors currently doesn't *exist* and therefore doesn't have any sections [19:28:22] brion-away, although, it seems to work anyway, so who cares. [19:28:23] Search the page for "edit this page" and you'll see [19:28:40] can someone please point me in a direction regarding namespace organization? I've installed the Namespace Manager extension which is great, but I'd like to change the order of some of the default namespaces so they all appear in alphabetical order. I'm assuming I can do this within the database but I'm not having much success finding where I would change those around. [19:28:59] thats the problem roankattouw... that page does exist at "http://asianmediawiki.com/index.php?title=Category:Directors" [19:29:17] munda: Namespaces aren't in the database. You also can't change the namespace order [19:29:28] boo! ;) [19:29:45] luna6: No, it doesn't. It shows a message "This page doesn't exist" followed by the members of the category [19:29:53] RoanKattouw: thanks [19:29:54] http://asianmediawiki.com/index.php?title=Category:Directors&action=edit should work just fine [19:29:56] You could rename the namespaces to more clever titles that would make them alphabetical. [19:30:03] lol [19:30:04] RoanKattouw, uh, I'm pretty sure they're in the database when you use Namespace Manager. [19:30:10] One would assume so, anyway. [19:30:14] Yeah but not the default namespaces, right? [19:30:17] Otherwise how does it manage them? [19:30:19] I have no idea. [19:30:22] well the namespace manager I have installed leaves the defaults as-is [19:30:34] http://asianmediawiki.com/index.php?title=Category:Directors&action=edit gives me "You tried to edit a section that doesn't exist. Since there is no section , there's no place to save your edit. [19:30:34] Return to Category:Directors." [19:30:41] it's just an extension to add additional but it adds them all after the defaults [19:30:49] roankattouw would you like a whack at it? with a user account ? [19:30:52] luna6: That's weird [19:31:13] luna6: I hardly know anything about NS Manager, please contact someone who does (its authors?) [19:31:22] Oops [19:31:25] :) [19:31:29] no problem [19:31:38] 03ivanlanin * r31988 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesId.php: Indonesian (id) localisation updates for core messages. [19:31:40] hello [19:31:57] luna6: Does this work? http://asianmediawiki.com/index.php?title=fsdklfjasdkl&action=edit [19:32:05] it's not the NS manager I need help with specifically, it's the default mediawiki namespaces I'm wanting to tweak, but ty for the info. [19:32:16] roankattouw ... yes it does [19:32:33] allows me to edit [19:32:50] munda: Changing the order of the default namespaces is very evil and next to impossible [19:33:10] http://asianmediawiki.com/index.php?title=Category:fsdklfjasdkl&action=edit [19:33:35] http://asianmediawiki.com/index.php?title=Category:fsdklfjasdkl&action=edit <--allows me to edit [19:34:20] Weird [19:34:35] RoanKattouw: how about renaming them? [19:34:47] munda: You can define aliases [19:34:58] ok, I'll try to go in that direction [19:35:01] thanks [19:36:52] roankattouw... [19:37:03] could you try to login and let me know if you get same error? [19:37:15] luna6: I'll create a user account [19:37:16] login with Roan & password test? [19:37:24] i think i disable user account creation [19:37:54] on the left sidebar = navigation ... the various film categories all allows edits [19:38:01] but actors, actresses, and directors does not [19:38:17] other categories not on there like South Korean actresss does allow edits which is baffling [19:38:19] luna6: Workaround: use action=edit§ion=0 [19:38:23] hmm [19:38:26] damn [19:38:29] let me try that [19:38:30] luna6: It's the nonexistent categories that cause trouble [19:38:40] Just create the page once and the problem should go away [19:39:13] 03(NEW) Fieldset legend is placed incorrectly in MSIE 8 beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13364 minor; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (brion) [19:39:14] 03(NEW) Search images by metadata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13370 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Search; (Bryan.TongMinh) [19:39:19] holy shit [19:39:24] that worked [19:39:45] ive been wracking my brain for weeks trying to edit those categories :) [19:39:52] do you know what may have caused that? [19:41:03] luna6: No. I'll try to reproduce this [19:41:07] Did you do anything special? [19:41:22] Apart from putting articles in the category before creating the category page? [19:41:29] nope [19:41:36] i followed an online guide for short urls.... [19:41:41] Does it happen for *all* nonexistent cats? [19:41:43] thats only thing i did custom [19:41:45] nope [19:41:54] other nonexistent cats can edit fine [19:41:56] That's even more random [19:42:04] it was just those 3 that was on the navigation sidebar [19:42:31] Hmm do you have one of those bad categories left? [19:42:38] Of have you fixed all of them already? [19:42:40] ah nope [19:42:48] i just added toc to all three [19:42:58] Hmm too bad [19:43:01] yeah [19:43:17] it seemed to be empty categories..on the navigation sidebar that would not allow edits [19:43:30] otherwise all the other category pages would allow edits [19:44:08] but thanks so much...i have been trying to put a table of contents on those 3 categories for weeks now :) [19:44:16] Well the fact that they're in the sidebar shouldn't matter [19:44:35] yeah im not sure why... [19:44:40] thats just something i noticed... [19:44:48] but probably not related to actual problem [19:47:21] oh i did do a upgrade from mediawiki maybe version 1.5 or 1.6 to 1.11 [19:47:27] as well dont know if that would cause it [19:48:02] did a mediawiki upgrade to 1.11 and switch to fancy urls..only custom things i did [19:52:55] 03rotem * r31990 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Making the new message ignored. [19:53:59] is MW 1.12.0rc1 really stable or should i wait? [19:54:23] 03dale * r31991 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fixed insert transcript bug where new mvd where not added to DOM [19:55:26] MONK3000: It's pretty stable. [19:56:14] Though, personally, unless there's something that you really need / want, I'd just wait until 1.12 proper is released. [20:08:28] ok thanks. i thought so [20:08:51] 03(mod) Monobook bullets are black instead of cyan in MSIE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13368 +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [20:09:21] <[diecast]> im creating a function/hook to email when a new page is made.. how do i get the title of the page [20:09:36] MSIE 8 exists? [20:11:10] <[diecast]> MZMcBride, http://www.apcmag.com/8395/ie8_beta_1_the_screenshot_tour [20:11:18] 03(NEW) Build page set from image hashes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13371 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (Bryan.TongMinh) [20:11:45] [diecast]: You checked current extensions first, right? [20:12:04] I could swear there was already an extension that could e-mail new pages... [20:12:33] <[diecast]> im trying to figure this out from scratch [20:13:42] 03(mod) Remove ?title=*** parameter from RC entries url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11152 (10nicdumz) [20:13:56] <[diecast]> ENotif is what you're thinking of probably [20:14:12] Nah. There are a couple of extensions that e-mail for various things. [20:14:15] New users and such. [20:14:56] 03(NEW) Some check box labels are missing first character in MSIE 8 beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13365 minor; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (brion) [20:15:02] <[diecast]> i have my notifcation working fine [20:15:13] <[diecast]> it was really simple [20:15:29] <[diecast]> i just need to know how to grab the title of the newly created page so it can be my subject line int he email [20:17:10] who knows how I change the menu at the top? (preferences, my account, ect) [20:22:07] i got a message at the top that says WARNING: This page is 30 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections. - all i can find is a discussion of people whining about the wording of it, can anyone give me some useful information about it? [20:22:41] iam8up|lpy: many older browsers cut off the text at or approaching 32k (or sometimes a different cutoff) [20:22:48] iam8up|lpy: Nothing fishy with that message [20:22:52] older browsers as in ie6 or ie5? [20:22:56] In 90% of the cases, nothing is wrong [20:23:00] I don't know [20:23:05] Firefox handles it well [20:23:11] That's all I know [20:23:14] firefox handles it, i'll worry about IE some other month [20:23:19] that's all i wanted to know =) [20:23:22] thanks a bunch [20:24:48] 03dale * r31992 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_custom.css: fixed safari css issue, added auto complete ajax indicator [20:24:49] 03brion * r31993 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/SpecialSearch.php languages/messages/MessagesEn.php): Revert r31989 -- bizarre 'searchtext' message consisting of '$1' makes no sense [20:25:35] 03(mod) Hook: TitleMoveComplete, Wrong Page ID present - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13204 (10roan.kattouw) [20:26:30] 03brion * r31994 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/ (messageTypes.inc messages.inc): Revert r31990 -- for reverted message [20:27:51] hi all! Is there any template which I could include in page and which will mean "need more concrete description here" and then on one page list of all pages where that template was used. [20:28:11] rossM: Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Foo [20:28:45] Or put [[Category:Pages needing more concrete descriptions]] in the template [20:28:50] 03(mod) Internet Explorer 8 (MSIE 8) tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13361 (10brion) [20:30:43] RoanKattouw: looks good. I'll try to find exact tempalte on wikipedia [20:32:12] 03(mod) Internet Explorer 8 (MSIE 8) tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13361 (10brion) [20:32:13] 03(NEW) Monobook user links icon broken in MSIE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13369 minor; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (brion) [20:32:27] 03(mod) Internet Explorer 8 (MSIE 8) tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13361 (10brion) [20:32:27] 03(NEW) Monobook bullets are black instead of cyan in MSIE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13368 minor; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (brion) [20:33:42] 03(mod) Cannot edit section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13354 +comment (10rene.raule) [20:42:20] #vikidia-fr [20:48:36] 03(mod) Monobook bullets are black instead of cyan in MSIE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13368 (10brion) [20:48:37] 03(mod) Monobook bullets are black instead of cyan in MSIE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13368 (10brion) [20:48:37] 03(NEW) uclimit per user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13372 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (hartman) [21:04:14] 03(mod) Page not displayed, despite being in the recent changes list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8181 +comment (10nicdumz) [21:04:19] 03(mod) uclimit per user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13372 +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [21:05:01] 14(WFM) Spam blacklist does not filter new section headers on discussion pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7409 +parser; +comment (10nicdumz) [21:07:34] 03(mod) Install the StringFunctions extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6455 (10post) [21:07:44] 03(mod) Internet Explorer 8 (MSIE 8) tracking bug - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13361 (10gangleri) [21:07:59] Ooh, that commenter on 6455 deserves stabbitude. :P [21:11:42] <[diecast]> how can i get the article title from ArticleInsertComplete - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/ArticleInsertComplete [21:12:17] 03(mod) Things that could use a category table (tracking) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13326 (10gangleri) [21:12:25] <[diecast]> im not familiar enough with php to unpack the $article object and get what i want [21:12:49] [diecast], $article->getTitle()->getPrefixedText() is probably what you want. [21:13:18] [diecast], $article is of the Article class, which is defined in includes/Article.php. You want its Title object (includes/Title.php) and then you want the title text in some form. [21:13:59] 03(mod) On paged categories, article totals and subcat totals are incorrect - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1212 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [21:14:17] You can getPrefixedText(), getText(), getDBKey(), and maybe a couple others. getPrefixedText() is the namespace-prefixed "nice" form, with spaces. getText() is the same without namespace prefix, getDBKey() gives you the format used in the database for storage (with underscores instead of spaces). [21:14:19] <[diecast]> hmm, that only gave me the contect of the article [21:14:33] <[diecast]> looks like it is the same as $text [21:14:39] Er, what? [21:14:39] <[diecast]> i think i need to pull from Title.php [21:14:55] $article->getTitle()->getPrefixedText() is not going to give you the content of the article. [21:15:10] getTitle() returns a Title object. [21:15:39] <[diecast]> this is what appears 'dfgdfgdfg ()->getPrefixedText()' [21:15:52] <[diecast]> dfgdfgdfg is what i typed int he article [21:16:09] <[diecast]> the page title is SuperJunk34 [21:16:26] [diecast], you're aware of how to write PHP programs, right? [21:16:34] What do you mean that "appears"? [21:16:44] Are you trying to embed it in a string or something? [21:16:46] <[diecast]> echo("$article->getTitle()->getPrefixedText()"); [21:16:51] Drop the quotation marks. [21:16:53] <[diecast]> k [21:17:01] You can't have function calls inside quotation marks. [21:17:02] >_< [21:17:18] <[diecast]> ah [21:17:25] <[diecast]> i was getting variables just fine [21:17:32] <[diecast]> but ok, functions dont work in there, gort it [21:17:37] Right. [21:18:27] <[diecast]> thanks, that is it [21:18:37] <[diecast]> now ill google for mixing strings and such [21:18:47] Actually, they do work, it seems, but you need to use curly braces. [21:18:58] <[diecast]> oh [21:19:02] class A { function X() { return "foo"; }} $a = new A(); echo "{$a->X()}"; [21:19:06] outputs: foo [21:19:12] But I've never seen anyone actually do that. [21:19:18] Might not work on all versions. [21:20:05] <[diecast]> so what would a preferred method be [21:20:36] [diecast], usually you use string concatenation, with the . symbol. So like: echo "The page title is " . $article->getTitle()->getPrefixedText() . ".\n"; [21:20:39] <[diecast]> yea this worked, echo("

Junky junk is - {$article->getTitle()->getPrefixedText()}

"); [21:21:10] But it's kind of freakily nifty that curly braces work. They actually might be easier to read. [21:21:10] <[diecast]> ok, in python i would + to concat [21:21:14] Ah, Python experience. [21:21:19] You have my condolences for having to learn PHP. [21:21:22] <[diecast]> yea, im pretty good with python [21:21:31] <[diecast]> but this is nothing similar ;) [21:21:33] Yeah, PHP uses . for concatenation, because it uses + for addition. [21:21:37] Even for strings. [21:21:40] <[diecast]> ah [21:21:44] "x" + "y" -> outputs 0. [21:21:52] Because it CASTS THE STRINGS TO NUMBERS AND ADDS THEM. [21:22:00] *Simetrical can rant extensively on how stupid PHP is [21:22:04] *Simetrical <3 Python [21:22:06] <[diecast]> hehe [21:22:23] <[diecast]> this was the only place i felt self enough to ask these qquestions, i would probably be stoned in #python [21:22:36] <[diecast]> self/safe [21:22:46] As long as you have some programming experience we probably won't bite you much. [21:22:48] <[diecast]> plus its all mediawiki too, so that worls ;) [21:22:55] <[diecast]> thanks [21:23:05] <[diecast]> now ive created a function and hook [21:23:08] It's the people who have no idea at all what they're doing and need really really basic help that get to be annoying. [21:23:28] <[diecast]> ah, yea [21:23:30] I'd recommend reading through the PHP manual if you're doing stuff with PHP, it's pretty good. [21:23:38] The manual, not PHP. [21:23:41] <[diecast]> i think i only have a few more hooks to go [21:23:50] <[diecast]> so with this im set for now ;) [21:24:06] <[diecast]> thanks fot the help [21:24:25] <[diecast]> i idled here most of the day and you're the first person to answer my question =) [21:28:48] 03(mod) incorrectly typed redirect(s) and Special:Whatlinkshere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2084 (10nicdumz) [21:28:53] 03(mod) incorrectly typed redirect(s) and Special:Whatlinkshere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2084 +patch (10nicdumz) [21:36:17] 03(mod) Internet Explorer 8 (MSIE 8) tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13361 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [21:38:29] Simetrical: so, do you see a sun-glasses smiley after "MSIE" in that last wikibugs line? [21:38:38] *AaronSchulz hugs his CZ client [21:38:47] AaronSchulz, no, my client doesn't suck. [21:38:51] xD [21:44:46] 03(mod) incorrectly typed redirect(s) and Special:Whatlinkshere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2084 +comment (10nicdumz) [21:44:48] AaronSchulz: yes, i see it :D [21:47:08] 03(mod) Search images by metadata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13370 (10Bryan.TongMinh) [21:49:04] Would you folks be interested in adding a maintenance script that deletes all orphaned redirects? [21:49:13] (Not mine, but I ended up with it) [21:49:19] Mike_lifeguard: :p [21:49:31] It's not useful for WMF wikis, I don't think, but other people might be able to use it? [21:49:49] Monobi: Hello over here too [21:49:53] Mike_lifeguard: for what wiki ? [21:50:10] huh? for any wiki, I think [21:51:09] Mike_lifeguard: put it on bugzilla as a feature request woth path, and/or put it on mediawiki.org as a kind-of extension [21:51:42] *Mike_lifeguard will figure out how to do attachments at bugzilla then :) [21:52:05] 14(WFM) IE7 truncates printed output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8204 +comment (10brion) [21:52:15] 03dale * r31995 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (6 files in 3 dirs): more safari fixes, added custom-Safari css sheet [21:52:22] Mike_lifeguard: try clicken "add attachement" [21:52:36] *Mike_lifeguard might have guessed that eventually ;) [21:52:46] (note too self: try speaken english) [21:53:44] Mike_lifeguard, we love adding tons of random maintenance scripts that nobody bothers reading, using, or maintaining. [21:53:56] Just look at `ls maintenance`. [21:54:05] Especially last-modified times. [21:54:13] No reason non-devs shouldn't be able to join in the fun! [21:55:18] 03(NEW) Add a maintenance script to delete orphaned redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13373 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (mike.lifeguard) [21:56:25] Mike_lifeguard: You misspelled "copyright infringement". It's not spelled "I didn't write it, and I forget who did". [21:56:34] erm... what type is a php script? [21:56:59] do you want to know? I can find out for you :) [21:57:21] 03ialex * r31996 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Title.php): (bug 2084) Fixed incorrect regex to match redirects [21:57:26] Mike_lifeguard: before anyone adds it to the repos, it has to be officially released as GPL [21:57:36] the type would be "text" i guess. [21:57:39] *Mike_lifeguard will ask them [21:57:53] Or GPL-compatible. [21:58:01] 03(mod) Add a maintenance script to delete orphaned redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13373 (10mike.lifeguard) [21:58:02] 03(FIXED) incorrectly typed redirect(s) and Special:Whatlinkshere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2084 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [21:58:05] yea i guess. BSD style would do [21:58:15] or would it? hmm... [21:58:17] * @author Rob Church [21:58:23] Is that cut-and-paste or intended? [21:58:34] Duesentrieb, yes, it would. We have BSD-licensed stuff in the repo. Also MIT-style. [21:58:45] Both are GPL-compatible, since BSD dropped their advertising clause. [21:59:02] Simetrical: however, it uses GPLed things, so it has to be GPL, right? [21:59:09] no [21:59:17] you can link 3-clause BSD code the GPL code [21:59:34] The GPL forbids you from linking it with anything that imposes more restrictions than it does. [21:59:37] but the entire binary is subject to restrictions in the GPL [21:59:45] You can still link it with things that have less. [21:59:58] "link" is a dubious concept when appleid to php [22:00:00] (but afaik, you _can't_ link with 4-clause BSD code - because of the advertising clause) [22:00:01] In which case each part has its own restrictions, and the collective work has the strictest of all of them. [22:00:04] so is "binary" [22:00:07] but whatever :) [22:00:12] Duesentrieb: yes, well, the GPL sucks ;) [22:00:14] Duesentrieb, it's irrelevant to copyright law anyway. The relevant concept (in the US) is "derivative work". [22:00:31] flyingparchment: indeed. the gpl is for C. and it doesn't even wor well for that [22:00:43] the gpl is for smelly liberals [22:00:45] Simetrical: not neccessarily. [22:00:48] with beards [22:00:51] hehe [22:01:13] As a neoconservative, I take offense at that. [22:01:27] Simetrical: if it is a derivative, the creator of the original can grant permissions under specific conditions. such conditions can use the concept of "linking" [22:01:40] I don't think the GPL does, though, does it? [22:01:51] Which is why its meaning is disputed regarding linking. [22:01:53] FYI: it was Hojjat, but I will track them down & get permission (or not) [22:02:08] Mike_lifeguard, and fix the @author declaration, maybe. :) [22:02:15] Simetrical: i'm not going to reread it now :P [22:02:58] '!\[{2}(.*?)(?:\|.*?)?\]{2}!' [22:03:03] Why in heaven's name \[{2}? [22:03:09] \[\[ is one character less. [22:03:16] 03(mod) Add a maintenance script to delete orphaned redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13373 (10mike.lifeguard) [22:03:31] Simetrical: consistency! [22:03:46] . . . with? [22:05:32] Simetrical: hell, i dunno [22:05:46] 03(mod) Internet Explorer 8 (MSIE 8) tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13361 (10brion) [22:06:28] 03(mod) Search images by metadata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13370 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [22:09:10] brion: would it be OK if I added a 'hidden' FS directory for images for revisiondelete? [22:10:25] *brion points at existing filearchive ? [22:12:50] AaronSchulz, working on revisiondelete stuff again? :D [22:13:32] 03(NEW) Cologne Blue styles fail in MSIE 8 beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13366 minor; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (brion) [22:13:33] 03(mod) Internet Explorer 8 (MSIE 8) tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13361 (10brion) [22:13:43] brion: I want them to stay in the histories [22:13:49] it is easy with the oi_sha1 [22:14:37] though if no one wants that, then it would certainly make things easier [22:14:46] 03(mod) Monobook bullets are black instead of cyan in MSIE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13368 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [22:14:52] I'd just have the ar_deleted perm check on image view [22:18:39] 03(mod) Option to not display [+] if no sub-category exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11132 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [22:18:42] brion: what doest thou thinketh? [22:19:07] s/doest/dost/;s/thinketh/think/ [22:19:21] IE8 STILL doesn't resize text given pixel sizes?! [22:19:40] Simetrical: I was about to type *dost [22:19:55] You don't inflect main verbs when you've already inflected auxiliaries. [22:20:01] I already new "thinketh" was wrong, but it just sounds cool [22:20:03] Like, "He does eat", not "He does eats". [22:20:13] AaronSchulz: well, i'm just sayin' there's an infrastructure in place for keeping image files with restricted access :) [22:20:18] "Thou dost think", not "Thou dost thinkest". [22:20:30] yes, I know [22:20:46] *AaronSchulz grumbes at brion's evasive response :) [22:23:44] brion: what if it just used the 'deleted' dir, but still kept the history? [22:25:07] that sounds feasible perhaps :) [22:26:17] 03(mod) New parser function / magic word, for "pretty-printed" numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13025 (10Greg_L_at_Wikipedia) [22:31:34] anybody already migrate medikiwi mysql database to postgresql database ? [22:33:09] mosfet: G_SabinoMullane wrote a script for it. [22:33:25] mosfet: the easiest way is probably to export the data, and re-import into a clean install. you'd still need to convert the user database (and logs, if you insist on keeping them), but that should be less of a challange. [22:33:45] MinuteElectron: oh... interesting :) [22:33:53] :P [22:34:02] I think it's in a bug report somewhere. [22:39:12] 03(WONTFIX) uclimit per user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13372 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [22:50:23] 03ialex * r31997 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/DifferenceEngine.php): (bug 12882) Adding a arround "Mark as patrolled" link on diffs [22:50:49] 03rainman * r31998 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/src/org/ (11 files in 6 dirs): [22:50:49] Scoring: [22:50:49] * use custom boost for terms in multiphrase queries, gives much better [22:50:49] results for fuzzy queries [22:50:49] Suggest: [22:50:50] * reintroduce rare words from titles into index [22:50:52] * minor fixes for decomposed words [22:51:34] mosfet: See maintenance/postgres/mediawiki_mysql2postgres.pl [23:02:39] 03(ASSIGNED) Add a maintenance script to delete orphaned redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13373 +comment (10huji.huji) [23:02:44] 03(FIXED) Span class for "Mark as patrolled" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12882 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [23:02:47] 03(mod) Internet Explorer 8 (MSIE 8) tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13361 (10huji.huji) [23:10:05] 03(FIXED) Title.php: getParentCategories *sometimes* returns string.... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11468 +comment (10brion) [23:13:31] How up-to-date is [[mw:Manual:Parameters to index.php]] ? [23:14:07] 03(mod) reorganise and tidy up parsing of extended image syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689 -need-review -patch ; +comment (10brion) [23:19:04] 03huji * r31999 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: * Adding/updating Persian translations [23:20:59] 03huji * r32000 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesAr.php: Adding translation [23:35:48] 03(mod) Things that could use a category table (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13326 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [23:37:10] Hi guys, is it possible to escape pipe characters in parser functions? [23:37:49] I need to make the "true"-part of an #ifexpr: parser function throw out a table [23:38:08] HACK]Gara[: try this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:! [23:38:09] which unfortunately uses | for rows and cols [23:38:14] HACK]Gara[: use html syntax for your table [23:38:20] 03brion * r32001 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [23:38:20] * (bug 3131) Manually-specified upload destination filename is no longer [23:38:20] overwritten by browsing for a file after you wrote it. [23:38:44] (and enale tidy, because templates+parserfunctions+tables often screws up without) [23:38:44] Yeah, that may work [23:38:58] tidy? [23:39:02] HACK]Gara[: Or do something along the lines of Template:! on enwiki [23:39:03] it's what people do on wikipedia :) [23:39:05] !tidy [23:39:05] --mwbot-- For more information about HTML Tidy, see . [23:39:40] yes, {{!}} and {{=}} also work... sometimes. depending on the order of subsitution. that's a bit arcane. [23:40:12] True .. a lot of people find it somehow more aesthetically pleasing though :) ... I don't ask questions ... [23:40:12] 03(FIXED) Automatically filling destination filename breaks " Upload new version" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3131 +comment (10brion) [23:41:24] amidaniel: somehow i don't think {{{!}} will work to start a table.... [23:41:49] Hmm ... good point. [23:41:57] It might though [23:42:09] Who knows with this screwy parser :) [23:43:56] especially, who knows if it does with the new preposcessor [23:44:40] What does texvc use to generate the hash for the filename? [23:44:53] 03(NEW) Dates in 19. Centruy does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13374 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (dasch_87) [23:45:41] fophillips: probably md5, like all the rest of the image handing code deos [23:46:29] Duesentrieb: Right, do you know exactly what it hashes? [23:46:51] to generate the hash of the finename? well, the filename, i suppose :) [23:47:19] Hmm [23:47:22] actually, in case of texvc, i think it hashes the formula [23:47:28] ...to generate the filename [23:47:38] Doesn't appear to [23:48:42] Hm, when I use html, the wikitext renders the < > as < or > respectively o.O [23:49:04] which kinda breaks the html [23:49:44] Do I need to use HTML for the whole table or is it possible to mix wikisyntax with HTML [23:50:25] don't mix [23:50:49] and enable tidy, if it's disabled, double-escaping sometimes happens, with the effect you described [23:51:18] fophillips: no? beware that it uses an input-hash and an output-hash. the input-hash is: $this->md5 = md5( $this->tex ); [23:51:46] Duesentrieb: Not all image code uses MD5, I know there's also SHA1 in there [23:51:57] fophillips: as far as i can see, this is also used to generate the file name [23:52:24] RoanKattouw: for the file's content, yes. for finding duplicates [23:53:44] Duesentrieb: There's something in the source that generates it. But I can't read ocaml. [23:54:03] fophillips: i don't either. look at Math.php [23:57:23] 03(NEW) No new Filters in Subcategories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13375 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Drilldown; (dasch_87)