[00:19:02] How to complete remove user? [00:21:37] BjornH, don't. Block the user and maybe rename him if you want. [00:22:21] Thanks but I will complete removen not only block. [00:22:36] BjornH, MediaWiki does not support this. You might be able to find an extension. [00:22:44] Or maintenance script. [00:23:30] Simetrical, ok, I will search for extension. Also I will look in phpMyAdmin if... [00:23:59] BjornH, you can delete the database rows, yes, but the name/user_id are stored in all sorts of tables. [00:24:20] Hummm, ok. [00:32:13] domas [00:32:15] you here? [00:32:35] Why do you want domas? [00:33:25] I need help in recovering two accounts [00:33:30] I need a sysadmin [00:33:54] White_Cat: what do you mean by recovering? [00:34:21] I dont know the password of the accounts I created [00:34:35] White_Cat: use the forgot password feature to have it sent to your e-mail [00:34:42] email wasnt set [00:34:55] i mistyped my password [00:35:05] well, that's kinda your fault then. if it's a brand new account, just make a new one [00:35:22] I desire to recover it [00:35:44] of course its my fault [00:35:51] im not sure that will be done [00:36:03] its not so bad to make an error when registering some 50+ accounts [00:36:27] White_Cat, first of all, this is the wrong channel, and second of all, if anyone is willing to help you it's probably not going to be domas. [00:36:43] Simetrical I am still banned on -tech [00:36:45] Register a new account and ask the local bureaucrats to rename the old one to something else and give you the name. [00:37:01] Simetrical I am asking assitance in recovering the accounts [00:37:10] I am well aware of that option [00:37:15] I$Bc`QE(B prefer not to take it [00:37:20] White_Cat: that's your only option [00:37:24] 03(mod) option to protect pages from being indexed by search engines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9415 (10cohesion) [00:37:25] I don't think you'll get it, but feel free to pester sysadmins more for no good reason if you want. [00:37:39] You might have taken a hint when they finally got so sick of you they banned you from speaking in #wikimedia-tech. [00:38:06] domas has ops here, and I don't think he'll be particularly reluctant to quiet you here too if necessary. [00:38:08] Simetrical I hardly said a word in that channel [00:38:19] Simetrical get off of me at once [00:38:28] Whatever. Do what you want. [00:38:48] 03(mod) Improvement for function wfTempDir() - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12138 +comment (10hagge.lists) [00:39:28] 03(mod) Magic word to add noindex to a page's header - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8068 +comment (10cohesion) [00:44:14] ... [00:49:26] YUP [00:49:33] I'm all drunk [00:49:43] and I'm ready to help everyone [00:49:53] hell, lots of backspace ops to even write this [00:50:27] 03simetrical * r32027 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (GlobalFunctions.php User.php): Improve on r32014 with a helper function to avoid code duplication/possible inconsistency. Would it be nice to start using this more, or should we just keep all the deprecated functions forever and not whine about it? [00:52:23] Does anybody familiar with the dumpHTML extension/script know what determines the URL for the "current revision" of each static article? Mine keeps pointing to localhost [01:04:45] Hi , i need some guidance , ive never created a wiki page before [01:20:57] 03(mod) Improvement for function wfTempDir() - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12138 +comment (10hagge.lists) [01:23:22] Can someone help me with something small ? [01:23:32] I need to use the following template in a new page........ [01:24:22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_archivers#Operating_system_support [01:41:56] That's a table. [01:42:35] XAV|ER: What kind of page are you trying to make? [01:48:51] 03(NEW) Create "Index" namespace on English Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13385 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (jayvdb) [01:52:40] 03(NEW) enable Email notifications on English Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13386 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (jayvdb) [01:57:23] Anyone know where the code for history merges is located in svn? [01:57:51] why? [01:58:48] So I can look at whatever comments might be there. [01:59:27] I want to know whether this bug I want to submit will be a dupe, and it is tangentially related to that feature [01:59:48] 03aaron * r32028 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/flaggedrevs.css: style cleanup [02:00:15] Mike_lifeguard: are you using sp:undelete? [02:00:47] currently, yes. But this bug is about creating a way to copy the full history to another page to fork a page [02:01:11] there is an extension for that? [02:01:26] 03(NEW) SVG: Missing implementation for textLenght - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13387 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (bpm230) [02:01:27] opps, "?" was a typo [02:01:34] anyway, it is called Duplicator [02:02:00] puffle: a comparison page [02:05:43] *Mike_lifeguard was glad to have checked :) [02:07:54] XAV|ER: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_file_archivers&action=edit§ion=2 - just copy the table from there. [02:22:20] 03(mod) Only use $wgEmergencyContact for "emergency" emails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13376 +comment (10huji.huji) [02:52:55] 03aaron * r32029 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.php FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php FlaggedRevsPage.php): Improve log [03:03:44] 03aaron * r32030 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.php FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php): Log tweak, bump [03:30:50] hi tim [03:33:38] hi [03:41:49] is there any special template (like {{PAGENAME}}) to get the page length? [03:44:24] 03(mod) Improve media (image) search display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8738 (10http://tools.wikimedia.de/~tangotango/mayflower/> - see advanced [03:44:24] search, + hover-details Javascripty magic. [03:44:24] -- [03:44:25] Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email [03:44:27] ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- [03:44:29] You are the assignee for the bug. [03:44:32] You are watching all bug changes. [03:44:35] _______________________________________________ [03:44:37] Wikibugs-l mailing list [03:44:39] Wikibugs-l) [03:48:07] OR, is there any way to exclude some pages from the special:shortpages page [03:48:09] ? [04:09:24] Hey, how long should I wait for a patch to get implemented? [04:10:04] I'm looking to use https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13262 <--the patch here, but it isn't implemented yet [04:10:56] Does anybody familiar with the dumpHTML extension/script know what determines the URL for the "current revision" of each static article? Mine keeps pointing to localhost [04:17:16] set $wgServer [04:17:33] it's usually auto-detected [04:17:39] protocol+host [04:18:25] Soxred93, it takes forever if you don't bug people constantly to look at it. [04:18:42] Hopefully this new junior dev will actually be tasked with reviewing patches in a timely fashion. [04:19:06] patches don't get implemented, they get applied and committed [04:19:43] Ok, so I mixed up my terms. Whatever. At least you understood me. [04:22:05] Simetrical, you have commit access? [04:22:10] I never knew that. [04:24:19] it looks like it needs refactoring [04:24:26] I'm not a big fan of spot-the-difference [04:30:18] TimStarling: hello [04:33:16] TimStarling, what's wrong with it? [04:37:35] Where can I get a database dump of www.mediawiki.org/? [04:40:20] You can get it at http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawikiwiki/20080306/ [04:40:39] ok, thanks [04:43:54] TimStarling: Thanks a bunch; that did it. One thing, though: Every time I run the script, it's getting stuck on the same revision [05:04:10] Actually, I take it back: It's not getting stuck. It's just no longer echoing its progress [06:02:04] how do I install support on my mediawiki?/ [06:02:25] its not on their already? [06:02:39] oh answered wrong channel [06:11:37] how do I limit the levels that appear in __TOC__ ? I don't really want anything more than 3rd level headers showing up. [06:32:03] There's some css you can use to hide some of the levels [06:35:34] how can i obtain a list of all pages that end with "ware" in wikipedia? [07:05:28] 03(mod) Create "Index" namespace on English Wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13385 +shell (10serhat.er.95) [07:11:53] 03(mod) Namespace Request for trwikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13176 (10serhat.er.95) [07:14:12] when trying to create a new account I get the reply "Your password is too short. It must be at least 0 characters" [07:14:19] how do I fix this? [08:22:12] Bleh... I wish I would have known about Eclipse's preference for line endings and encodings before... [08:25:59] 03(mod) Namespace Request for trwikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13176 high->normal; +comment (10Andrew) [08:34:04] hello [08:43:10] 03siebrand * r32031 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: Might as well not invalidate 39 translations when simply renaming a message [08:45:37] 03(mod) Introduce MediaWiki:Uploadfooter message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13269 (10lupo.bugzilla) [08:51:45] 04(REOPENED) Automatically filling destination filename breaks " Upload new version" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3131 +comment (10lupo.bugzilla) [08:52:00] 03(NEW) a link to the redirect page [[advertisements]] in en. wikipedia is invisible (is rendered as a null) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13383 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (cjschult) [08:57:48] 03thomasv * r32032 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/proofread.js: adding references [09:09:01] 14(WFM) a link to the redirect page [[advertisements]] in en. wikipedia is invisible (is rendered as a null) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13383 +comment (10Andrew) [09:28:59] 03nikerabbit * r32033 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUpload.php: * Added id [09:29:51] 03(FIXED) Introduce MediaWiki:Uploadfooter message - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13269 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:32:25] hi [09:37:34] hi [09:37:46] 03(mod) Template parameters ignored during transclusion in special pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12519 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:45:41] 03(mod) {{#expr: working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13379 +comment (10ksamudra) [09:48:30] 03(FIXED) Separate message 'Blocklogpage' into 3 - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4778 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:51:06] is it known issue that named ref inside template do not work (see [[fi:Saturn V]] for example)? [09:51:41] [[fi:Saturn V]] = http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V [09:53:26] 03(mod) {{#expr: working - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13379 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:54:46] nevermind, I found out that it works in enwiki, I start to test with ?timtest=newpp [09:58:45] 14(INVALID) Incomplete Taiwanese translation of "jumpto" and related messages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8056 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:59:54] all wikis use the new preprocessor now [09:59:58] timtest=newpp does nothing [10:00:16] the problem is that you're defining the reference in an unfollowed branch [10:00:45] |laukaisut = 13 (ml. [[Saturn INT-21|INT-21]]){{Verkkoviite [10:00:58] the text "13 (ml." doesn't appear in the output [10:01:14] the new preprocessor removes such branches from processing, so the reference is not seen [10:02:05] ok, i start to bug template itself, thank you for tips [10:02:38] 03(mod) star crashes MediaWiki design - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13378 15enhancement->major; normal->high; +comment (10huji.huji) [10:02:49] you could just remove the reference from laukaisut and add it to viimeinen lento instead [10:02:51] 03(mod) star crashes MediaWiki design - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13378 +patch (10nicdumz) [10:02:57] ^ [10:03:16] 03(FIXED) Add namespace aliases to MessagesRu - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12924 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [10:03:22] very descriptive, NicDumZ [10:03:32] thanks, tim [10:04:46] TimStarling: nah, I add "laukaisut" to template itself since it is relative information and apparently forgotten by accident [10:05:18] 03(mod) Separate messages 'prevn', 'nextn' - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4777 (10niklas.laxstrom) [10:05:48] <_wooz> lo [10:05:49] is it me, or wikibugs is sometimes buggy ? [10:06:16] NicDumZ, that's a very specific statement... [10:06:25] :þ [10:06:30] wfEscapeWikiText() causes bugs, you shouldn't use it for messages anymore [10:06:37] re bug 13378; why does * start a new list even it isn't in start of the line? [10:06:58] TimStarling: what should se use then? [10:07:03] we* [10:07:21] or nothing, depending on the context [10:07:38] but yes, that's the question you should be asking [10:08:05] mmm, the answer is actually the much-hated lineStart feature [10:08:05] if someone wants to do [[$1]], they can't use nowiki, can they? [10:08:14] you don't need it [10:08:24] there's no title character that can mess up a link [10:08:40] that's the theory anyway [10:08:44] TimStarling: but $1 may not be valid title :/ [10:09:14] since when? [10:09:31] like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sans%27%27aa (where pagename is run trough wfEscapeWikitext so it doesn't break) [10:10:07] it should just say "bad title" [10:10:11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Sans%27%27aa isn't very pretty either [10:10:32] and '' is valid in titles as far as I know [10:10:49] it also doesn't mess up links [10:11:04] and it isn't escaped by wfEscapeWikiText [10:11:12] it is [10:11:19] btw where I can read more about {{#timel:}} (just noticed from version that also that function exists)? [10:11:28] oh, that's two single quotes? [10:11:32] 03(mod) Improvement for function wfTempDir() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12138 +comment (10minuteelectron) [10:11:33] yep [10:11:38] oh, it isn't [10:11:44] well, it shouldn't mess up links [10:11:45] nah, it is [10:11:58] but it does [10:12:20] until someone fixes the parser or something :/ [10:12:40] guillom: (mod) star crashes MediaWiki design - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13378 enhancement->major; normal->high; +comment (huji.huji) <- his comment was added yesterday [10:12:44] if you use wfEscapeWikiText(), that that breaks a whole load of other things [10:13:04] so randomly switching between using it and not using it depending on who last filed a bug doesn't seem like the best way to design it [10:13:09] fix the parser [10:13:40] if I only could... [10:14:54] it's impossible is it? [10:15:07] only for superhumans? [10:15:47] maybe in theory, but in practise I wont [10:16:31] actually, the problem is that the text you get from magicwords such as {{PAGENAME}} is being parsed, right ? [10:18:03] no, it's called bug 529 [10:18:09] 03(mod) star crashes MediaWiki design - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13378 +comment (10tstarling) [10:18:10] 03(mod) Items not numbered correctly in several special pages in Arabic (ar) wikis - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13001 (10niklas.laxstrom) [10:18:10] see my comment [10:20:04] it is also a problem that anything is parsed inside link targets [10:20:07] someone should retitle it "Asterisk returned from magic words in messages parameter inside link starts new line" [10:20:24] 03(mod) lineStart invoked from {{PAGENAME}} breaks messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13378 summary (10tstarling) [10:21:11] I also love bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10837 [10:21:16] *Splarka gives tim a cookie [10:21:45] someone made very ugly hack somwhere in the past, and I can't fixit because it breaks "something" and they aren't a bit interested in collaborating in the fix [10:22:26] is {{PAGENAME}} parsed?? [10:22:29] [07:45:49] TimStarling: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*foo [10:22:29] [07:45:51] odd [10:22:34] ahh, Feb 29th... [10:22:38] this did all seem familiar [10:23:14] Nikerabbit: it's bug 529'd [10:23:35] the relevant part of bug 529 is the fix explained by Wil Mahan at the bottom [10:23:45] comment 13 [10:24:25] aha, weird [10:25:05] ahh, right, I spammed http://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Noarticletext&action=history tracing the problem to {{PAGENAME}} ... [10:25:17] the way it works in the new preprocessor is that template invocations are marked with lineStart if they're at the start of a line, at the parse stage [10:25:30] and the fix was to change {{PAGENAME}} to {{PAGENAMEE}} [10:25:43] then if there's *no* lineStart, and the result text starts with an asterisk, a newline is inserted [10:26:01] at expand time [10:26:15] yes, Splarka, you could use PAGENAMEE everywhere, but still, it's not the way around. The parser is somewhat broken [10:26:27] subst/fix/workaround [10:26:55] okay then :þ [10:26:58] ^^ [10:27:02] hehe [10:29:21] 03(mod) Can't localize some user groups in Special:Listusers - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12996 (10niklas.laxstrom) [10:30:05] *Splarka sleeps so as not to think about it [10:30:58] Do I need more coffee or is mediawiki storing UTF8 in MySQL fields that have been defined as Latin1 :? [10:31:34] yes, it does that [10:31:55] you should convert them to binary if you have a server that supports it [10:32:08] ok, then no more coffee for me :D Thanks for the confirmation. [10:32:39] the newer versions of mediawiki do this on install, but if you have an upgraded wiki, it may still be latin-1 [10:33:17] the main problem with it is that the data is destroyed by a mysqldump/import cycle [10:34:56] *Werdna waves [10:35:13] hi Werdna, how's the study going? [10:35:20] it's not too bad [10:35:46] how long until the first exam? [10:35:53] I think I've got chemistry down, a bit more and physics will be fine. [10:36:09] Focus areas are, therefore, maths (especially ext.2), english, and legal studies [10:36:13] a week and a bit. [10:36:16] tuesday week. [10:36:59] which one is ext.2? [10:37:04] in old-people's language? [10:37:05] extension 2 maths, friday week [10:37:22] mmm, I suppose you don't even know [10:37:23] 4-unit, you'll probably know it as [10:37:27] ah yes, thanks [10:37:37] 4U is crazy, I dropped it, and I'm glad I did [10:37:55] I placed 15th last year, and I'm hoping for about 5th to 7th this year [10:38:02] the amount of time it was costing me just to do the homework was insane [10:38:32] historically, students which place 10th, receive a contribution to their TER (mark out of 500) of 95-97 [10:38:33] there's a point where you've got to think about your priorities in life :) [10:38:46] 95-97 across ten units is sufficient to get a UAI of 99.90 [10:39:06] so I'm not dropping it. [10:39:06] 4U, when I was doing it, was almost entirely problem-solving style questions [10:39:15] it's a bit of both now [10:39:31] there are the straight textbook-style questions for about 60% of the paper [10:39:41] I did basically the same subject matter in 1st year uni, but it was much much easier [10:39:55] and the other 40% is stuff that you haven't seen before, but which you have sufficient knowledge to solve. [10:39:58] because we only had to know it, not solve crazy problems with it [10:40:26] ive got a problem, ive installed the extension multiupload, but I get an FatalError when i want to upload a picture Fatal error: Call to a member function getTitle() on a non-object in /mnt/web5/20/83/51663183/htdocs/extensions/MultiUpload/SpecialMultipleUpload.php on line 474 [10:40:48] anyway, it would have definitely made a positive contribution to my UAI even though I was bad at it [10:40:54] because it's so aggressively scaled [10:41:18] but I didn't need such a high UAI [10:41:26] well, the candidature is the top 2000 in the state.. [10:41:38] which is about the top 3% [10:41:54] which would correspond to about people who get 98 or above [10:42:21] (if it were to actually represent the top 3% of the state, rather than the top 3% of mathemetics students at schools which offer extension 2. [10:42:51] I need a UAI of either 99.65, if I want to do law, or 88, if I want to do engineering. [10:43:10] but, to be honest, I take the UAI as more of an intellectual challenge than a necessity. [10:43:25] mhm [10:43:39] that depends on what sort of engineering and where, doesn't it? [10:43:40] so, if I were to need 88, I would want to see how close to 100 I could get, anyway. [10:43:54] whatever floats your boat :) [10:43:54] TimStarling: that's the hardest engineering degree to get into, at UNSW. [10:44:13] ("flexible first year" engineering) [10:44:17] I thought software engineering at UNSW was well into the 90s [10:44:17] I think it's the hardest, anyway. [10:44:22] maybe they increased the intake [10:45:24] Oh, here's a harder one to get into [10:45:51] Bachelor of Engineering (Research & Development) / Bachelor of Science at ANU [10:45:54] 98.00 [10:46:18] yeah, you know why they do that? [10:46:33] do what? [10:46:38] it's a little secret that they don't tell you when you're applying for these courses... [10:47:49] "I wanted to utilise my UAI" is a common survey response for how people choose their degree [10:48:31] so the universities sometimes produce a few very similar courses, with different entry requirements [10:48:55] so that the courses with the lower intake, with a highfalutin title, will attract the students with the high UAI [10:49:02] where can i find the php.ini???? [10:49:25] bango: /etc/php [10:49:36] so it's for students who get 98 and then look around for courses that require it [10:49:50] hi [10:50:03] hi domas [10:50:33] i havent got etc [10:50:54] bango: oh, you're on windows? [10:51:05] TimStarling: sillies. [10:51:11] im on my server :D [10:51:26] where my wiki is istalled [10:51:27] don't they know that UAI is a measure of the quality of candidature applying? [10:51:32] bango: right. What OS does it run? [10:52:00] at UNSW they had "science" with a 55 cutoff, and "advanced science" with an 85 cutoff [10:52:12] identical courses, pretty much [10:52:17] yeah, they have that too, except, like, plus 10 for each [10:52:25] but every single person doing physics in my department was doing advanced science [10:52:37] dont know [10:52:38] 85 for "science", 98 for "advanced science" [10:52:44] its extern from a hoster [10:52:47] now this started to annoying me: {{#time: Y-m-d H:i:s}} == {{#timel: Y-m-d H:i:s}} and everything all is also similar: neither one support timestamps over (or under) unix time etc... please somebody enlight me: what is purpose of {{#timel}}? [10:52:53] bango: then you can't edit php.ini [10:53:04] mh [10:54:04] ive got a problem, ive installed the extension multiupload, but I get an FatalError when i want to upload a picture Fatal error: Call to a member function getTitle() on a non-object in /mnt/web5/20/83/51663183/htdocs/extensions/MultiUpload/SpecialMultipleUpload.php on line 474 [10:55:09] bango: where'd you get the extension from? [10:55:39] mediawiki.org [10:55:53] I think if you're choosing a university, you should look at the strength of the research department in the field you're interested in [10:56:04] rather than the entry requirement [10:56:13] mmm [10:56:19] TimStarling: might sound stupid, but what about simply preventing text expanded from magic words from being interpreted in #529 bugfix ? [10:56:31] singeupload works :/ [10:56:54] NicDumZ: maybe [10:57:27] I perfectly understand that you think that something better ought to be written for #529, but I can't find a way through as of now [10:57:32] Werdna: because strong research gives you talented lecturers, and a good path into a PhD [10:58:10] mmhmmmm [10:58:11] even if you don't do a PhD at the same university, it helps to know people who know people [10:58:14] someone recently reminded my education [10:58:27] the lack of it [10:58:30] what education!!!? [10:58:35] ;-) [10:58:44] my brother is one of ones pushing me to get a diploma [10:58:53] though I did his both master and bachelor works for him [10:58:56] meh :) [10:59:02] heh [10:59:08] mark: where are you from again? [10:59:14] the netherlands [10:59:18] hmm [10:59:32] *Werdna is pondering destinations for a working holiday in november to february [10:59:53] haha [10:59:55] you want snow? [11:00:03] go to finlandĄ [11:00:05] ! [11:00:06] or lithuania [11:00:07] heh [11:00:07] muhaha [11:00:10] perhaps too much snow :P [11:00:21] I was thinking france/switzerland kinda area [11:00:31] snow is cool, though. [11:00:56] freezing, in fact [11:01:10] *Werdna slaps TimStarling [11:01:41] ugh [11:01:53] here hasn't been real snow in this winter [11:02:12] the big pain is that a lot of the european countries insist working holidays be taken by >18s [11:02:14] domas: believe me, it's *very* hard to get motivated for studies at this point ;) [11:02:29] which sucks, because I don't turn 18 till january [11:03:59] Bah... sed keeps irritating me... [11:06:54] Werdna: France sucks actually. I live there. :þ [11:08:09] :P [11:08:34] domas, not this year you don't come to finland looking for snow, or at least you have to prepare to go way way north in finland to find any... the ground here is bare as a babys bottom... with just a bit of talcum pownder on it for effect. [11:09:36] speaking of snow, I was talking to one of my friends from undergrad last night, first time in 5 years or so [11:09:56] these days she's working on an incredible cloud-seeding experiment in the snowy mountains [11:10:40] it's very cool stuff [11:10:46] in more ways than one [11:11:30] ah. It's been hot the last days here. [11:11:38] No more snow to be seen [11:11:48] And we're in.. march :s [11:12:43] hehe [11:12:50] Sydney is at its nicest in late march to early april. [11:13:24] oh, werdna is 17, I always thought of 15! [11:13:28] *domas giggles [11:13:44] mm [11:13:47] *domas yesterday had wild night [11:13:53] slightly lots of wine though [11:13:54] *Werdna has grown since he became a developer :P [11:14:02] you will always stay 15! [11:14:10] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/europe/spain-sends-kitsch-elvis-to-take-on-irish-rubber-turkey-at-eurovision-795015.html [11:14:35] O tempora, o mores! [11:15:41] *Werdna slaps domas [11:16:28] meh, lithuanian entry will be a disaster [11:16:43] lithuania: producing eurovision disasters for past 15 years! [11:16:55] two entries were worth something [11:27:55] is there a name for the standard (Talk | contribs | block) [11:29:20] svn: Can't create directory '/svnroot/pywikipedia/db/transactions/5134-1.txn': Permission denied ← when I try to commit spelling-it.txt after have adding it to the pywikipedia reposity (svn add) I get this error, any idea? (the svn system is the same, maybe someone here knows something about that :) ) [11:40:29] how to disable an unused namespace like the Sitename namespace? [11:40:44] unset it from array [11:40:54] it's listed whenever all namespaces are listed [11:42:24] hmh how? I can't find an according $wg [11:44:50] mmmm [11:44:54] there should be one [11:45:04] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings_%28alphabetical%29 [12:07:37] 03(mod) Improve media (image) search display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8738 +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [12:07:37] 03(mod) Search images by metadata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13370 (10Bryan.TongMinh) [12:24:18] can i automatically load all TOC's from certain pages i define? I have a help section consisting of 10 long pages, on the main help page i'd like to add some "Where you find what" [12:24:45] MONK3000: Not in core, you can't. Someone would have to write an extension for that [12:24:56] {{#includetoc:}} or something (discussed on wikitech-l as well) [12:25:23] oh hi. yeah maybe i should request it ;) [12:26:24] ok if it's discussed by devs already i can wait [12:27:03] there's also the Hierarchy extension. that's quite complex though [12:27:55] Well it's not really being discussed by devs, some other guy requested it on wikitech-l [12:28:24] But he had some crazy idea to use {{:Page}} [12:28:30] Which isn't gonna happen [12:29:03] i don't need it urgently. i can set it up manually, but i can't be arsed to update it when change the content [12:30:04] and yes, Extension:Hierarchy si too much trouble for my little needs [12:32:24] Hi, How can I list all the Templates I have on my wiki? [12:32:38] MrHappy: Special:Allpages, select the template namespace [12:32:49] MrHappy: There's also Special:Mostlinkedtemplates [12:33:13] 1st suggestion worked, thanks. [12:33:28]