[00:27:54] 03(mod) Add bot generated spam reports on enwiki to robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13398 (10cohesion) [00:38:30] where can i find theme for MediaWiki? [00:45:11] !skins CHTboy [00:45:11] --mwbot-- Overview: . Skin usage: . Gallery of CSS styles: . Writing your own: [00:46:53] Pathoschild, thx dude [00:47:32] Welcome. [01:14:23] apart from adding 'prefix', 'url/$', '1', '0' for each interwiki link to the interwiki table, is tehre anything esle that needs doing? [01:14:58] no [01:16:00] right. that's what I thought [01:16:11] why is it not working for me then? [01:16:42] well, are you using $ or $1 in the url field? [01:16:48] (the latter is the correct one) [01:16:49] $1 [01:16:52] k [01:16:54] yeah, it's right [01:17:06] and you added them as the correct types? [01:17:34] since that question doen't make perfect sense to me, perhaps not ;) [01:17:59] once I get into phpMyAdmin, I can explain it a bit better ;) [01:18:39] you mean iw_local? [01:18:57] oh.. mysql datatypes? [01:18:59] yes [01:19:15] that was the word I was looking for :P [01:19:51] ok, I think so, I just exported the table, then added my bits, then re-exported the .sql file [01:20:16] hmm... then that is strange [01:20:33] so I have char(32) (primary), char(127), tinyint(1), tinyint(1) [01:21:02] is there any reason why it wouldn't work on user pages? [01:21:27] because that's the only place I've tested it so far [01:21:34] i'm runnin 1.11 [01:21:57] hmm, in my schema it's varchar(32), blob, tinyint(1), tinyint(4) [01:22:11] wow. [01:22:42] why would you need tinyin(4)? [01:22:47] and what's a blob? [01:23:00] idk why it's tinyint(4), it just is :P [01:23:27] http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/blob.html [01:26:25] Hey, how do you increase the limit for user creations in a day by an IP address? [01:27:09] Skizzerz: you don't happen to know what file originally creates the database, do you? [01:28:04] there should be some sort of maintenance script that will do the trick (I'm thinking update.php, but there may be a specialized one) [01:28:29] config.php? [01:29:01] err, /config/index.php [01:29:52] MrZ-man: are you talking to me? [01:29:59] yeah [01:31:05] hrrm... I'm looking [01:31:49] rebuildInterwiki.php perhaps [01:31:52] looks like it runs /maintenance/updaters.inc [01:33:24] oh wow.. I thought it would just inject an .sql file [01:33:50] ah.. it does [01:34:56] interwiki.sql.. but that doesn't define the data types [01:36:39] does anyone know if the datatypes for the interwiki table would affect its operation? [01:38:16] or if the interwiki table can be too big? [01:39:24] because my local language ones work [01:48:51] do the interwiki prefixes have to be lowercase?? [01:50:18] they're case-insensitive [01:50:58] TimStarling: but if they include capitals in the database, should that effect it? [01:51:24] affect? [01:54:01] because the ones with capitals in my database don't seem to be working, but it might be because of something else [01:56:22] wow... that does seem to be the case.. [01:56:56] so, is it possible to have some "easy" editing on uploaded plain text files? its a pain in the ass for users to copy stuff in a file from a wikipage when they need it, but i don't know any other way, any advice? [01:58:01] is it a bug that the prefix in the interwiki table MUST be all lower case? [01:59:49] 03(mod) Improve media (image) search display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8738 (10N/A) [02:01:09] how do i create portals on my wiki? [02:01:20] i cant find a manual page explaining it, perhaps i'm using bad search criteria [02:01:27] stiv2k_: add the portal namespace, then create them manually [02:01:59] naught101: No, it's not a bug. It was intentional. [02:02:12] stiv2k_: Look for the extra namespaces option. [02:02:19] naught101: what about formatting and stuff? [02:02:25] MZMcBride: look for it where? [02:02:36] mediawiki.org or DefaultSettings.php. [02:02:45] Both will have information about extra namespaces. [02:03:04] stiv2k_: it's all done manually on wikipedia [02:03:27] MZMcBride: ok, thanks. Perhaps I should not that on the mediawiki interwiki page [02:03:32] naught101: ah [02:03:47] MZMcBride: are you talking about this? >> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ExtraNamespaces [02:03:54] No. [02:03:57] !extranamespaces [02:03:57] --mwbot-- To add a namespace, modify your LocalSettings.php file, and add namespaces via $wgExtraNamespaces. A comprehensive set of instructions for adding a namespace can be found at . $wgExtraNamespaces can also be used to rename the default namespaces. [02:04:07] *MZMcBride shakes his fist at MrZ-man. [02:04:56] interesting [02:06:34] MZMcBride: i can still use that extension to do that too, right? [02:06:55] No. No extension necessary. [02:07:44] well, i mean, i can still use that extension if i didn't feel like adding namespaces through static config-file editing [02:10:22] sounds like MORE effort, not less [02:10:31] true, it does [02:10:38] but still an alternative nonetheless [02:10:43] yep [02:10:48] how can i see what namespaces i have created already? [02:10:59] is the Portal namespace like a reserved namespace in mediawiki [02:11:10] no, you have to add it [02:11:32] in wikipedia, I think it's 100, and portal_talk is 101 [02:11:53] i see [02:13:20] but you can make it what ever you like, as long as it doesn't conflict with something else [02:13:30] right [02:13:36] so how do i see what namespaces i have already [02:14:07] if you haven't added any, then you just have the standard ones. if you do a search on your wiki, they are listed at the bottom [02:14:19] I think they all have numbers below 100 [02:14:33] I dunno what numbers though [02:14:36] Look in DefaultSettings.php. [02:14:42] there you go [02:14:42] Everything you need to know is in there. [02:14:48] Everything. :) [02:16:03] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings is also helpful [02:16:18] uhm [02:19:18] can i make it so only certain people can edit this said namespace [02:20:59] is there a way to remove the index.php from this url: http://wiki.neoturbine.net/index.php/Main_Page [02:21:02] !e LockDown [02:21:02] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LockDown [02:21:12] No, that's not it... [02:21:21] !shorturls | stiv2k_ [02:21:21] --mwbot-- stiv2k_: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [02:21:29] thank you [02:21:44] !lockdown | stiv2k_ [02:21:44] --mwbot-- stiv2k_: Lockdown is an extension for preventing read or write access by namespace and limiting access to special pages. For more information, see < http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown >. For general information on preventing access to your wiki, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [02:22:01] Silly capital letters. [02:26:24] indeed [02:26:36] I share your pain MZMcBride [02:26:42] Heh. [02:26:52] all's working now though! [02:27:01] *naught101 goes back to loving mediawiki [02:44:45] is there a function i can call within a skin to list all the pages? [03:40:47] How do i get the wiki url in an extension? [03:40:49] like [03:41:15] http://myexample.com/wiki/index.php <- is this in a variable? [04:06:21] http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Comparison_of_XXXSim <~ does this look like its over done ? [04:29:54] 03(mod) a link to the redirect page [[advertisements]] in en. wikipedia is invisible (is rendered as a null) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13383 (10N/A) [04:38:27] Werdna: You about? [04:40:15] could someone tell me how to create multiple reference note entities ? [04:40:26] @all ^ >? [04:40:50] [04:41:00] http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Comparison_of_XXXSim <~ my reference note under "silvercard" is taking "7" as a note number :( [04:41:08] And then for all future uses, use: [04:41:12] MZMcBride: check it out ^ [04:41:45] ayyyy... , you mean i have to change all my reference notes all over again ??????????? [04:41:50] :( [04:41:51] ? [04:42:11] I told you hours ago to just install Cite.php. [04:42:20] That's what makes the tags work. [04:42:49] My server isn't allowing it for some st()()pid reason MZMcBride [04:42:59] Huh? [04:43:03] I'm in the process of changing hosts to local [04:43:04] :) [04:43:43] My host* isn't allowing it for some st()()pid reason MZMcBride [04:44:00] Your host doesn't allow copying files to it? [04:44:17] its not allowing the cite includes to work [04:44:35] it accepts the file and chmod , just won't allow the includes [04:44:44] Well, that's plain silliness. [04:44:56] yeah :( [04:45:07] Its a bug probably [04:45:20] is there a work@? [04:45:34] is there a workaround ? [04:45:49] I bet it's not a bug [04:46:37] it is [04:46:49] i triple checked it [04:47:02] also [04:47:18] for some reason it keeps adding a "." to the end of each edit [04:47:22] is that normal ? [04:47:30] Heh. No. [04:47:35] you triple checked that it is a bug? [04:47:40] And you screwed up your Special:Version somehow as well. [04:47:43] TimStarling: yes [04:47:52] I bet you didn't, I bet you triple checked that it doesn't do what you expect [04:48:10] http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Comparison_of_XXXSim <~ tim take a look at the local reference note for silvercard [04:48:16] but just because software doesn't do what you expect doesn't mean it's got a bug [04:48:25] maybe your expectations are wrong [04:48:37] TimStarling: no , its happened to others dude [04:48:41] :) [04:48:52] maybe their expectations are wrong too [04:48:57] I said probably , im not 100% sure about anything :) [04:49:12] TimStarling: whats the problem man ? [04:49:39] just need a work@ [04:49:49] there has to be a way [04:50:20] without having to change everything @ again [04:51:50] I don't see any problems with that page [04:52:06] TimStarling: ... [04:52:12] what is wrong with it? [04:52:30] Take a look at the reference note under the general information table (its under silvercard) [04:52:40] Its take a value of "7" [04:52:43] what about it? [04:52:44] instead of 1 [04:53:05] I want it to take a value of 1 or special character [04:53:47] see what i mean ? [04:54:30] well, bad luck, you can't [04:54:39] the initial snap action seems to be working correctly , its the value thats incorrect [04:54:46] it's not a bug [04:55:17] grrrrrrrrr [04:55:29] TimStarling: no THAT is not a bug , i realize that [04:55:45] what is? the fact that you can't work out how to make it do what you want? [04:56:02] there is NO bug [04:56:38] so... why are you here? [04:57:19] I'm asking if there is a workaround in order to change the value to 1 without having to change the other damned values all over again [04:57:50] you have this: [{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}#endnote_{{{1}}}] [04:58:02] that makes a numbered external link [04:58:11] the number counts up from 1 for all such links in the document [04:58:22] *Werdna waves [04:58:30] Hello Werdna. [04:58:38] Interested in a bug? [04:58:45] eek! [04:58:48] It'll make the Meta people happy. [04:58:48] depends. what is it? [04:58:54] Interface quirk: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13236 [04:58:55] you can make an external link with your own text instead, with the syntax [http://example.com/ Link text] [04:59:33] but you probably know this already right? [04:59:39] TimStarling: do you recommend that as a mainstream option ? [04:59:58] TimStarling: no i didn't know that i could do that _inside a table_ [05:00:05] for numbered citations? absolutely not [05:00:11] you should use the cite extension [05:00:51] ok what do you recommend would be easier for user to read/comprehend ? [05:01:02] TimStarling: ^ ? [05:01:18] should i revamp the whole page ? [05:02:26] writing that page from scratch would be 10 minutes' work [05:02:34] are you mad at me Tim ? [05:02:50] you've been in here for a lot longer than that [05:03:36] well seeing this is my first time creating my own wiki , i would say im doing pretty good [05:04:01] ^.^ [05:04:08] nespa ? [05:08:33] 03(mod) On paged categories, article totals and subcat totals are incorrect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1212 +comment (10Andrew) [05:10:42] TimStarling: i think your im going to try your syntax method and see what happens [05:10:55] It's going to be a pain to do but i have the time [05:11:29] Clearly. [05:50:07] I've been trying to compile Turck MMCache. It apparently is not set up to compile with Php5, and does not appear to have any active development. [05:50:34] Can MW take advantage of php5-memcache? [06:33:14] 03tstarling * r32048 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuthPlugin.php: Don't blank the local email address of users without a global account, on login [06:39:25] Anyone have any suggestions ? , on how to get the price ranges to sort correctly on this page http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Comparison_of_XXXSim#General_Information ????? [06:45:11]
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[06:59:58] *MZMcBride kicks CIA-44 [06:59:59] ow [07:01:58] MZMcBride: ? where do i insert that tag ? [07:02:19] Before numbers like 50. [07:02:30] k ty! [07:02:50] if that works , it will be complete :) [07:04:41] it worked [07:04:42] the page is complete [07:04:53] thanks MZMcBride you saved the work [07:09:30] Hi [07:10:10] DAMN [07:10:15] i spoke to soon [07:10:25] its not letting me save the page [07:10:40] What extensions do you guys use? [07:11:12] 03rotem * r32049 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Fix. [07:28:41] 03rotem * r32050 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Fix. [07:29:21] 03rotem * r32051 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Fixes. [08:04:31] good morning [08:06:22] morning [08:06:47] morning [08:07:14] i have a small question in using mediawiki [08:07:38] unfortunately i was not able to find the answer in the german faq so i came in here [08:07:50] ask [08:08:10] i only want to delete severel entries in the wiki history [08:08:59] because i post there accidentally the password of my skript in plain-text [08:09:19] okay. is it your personal wiki ? [08:09:26] yes [08:09:38] are there any other sysops than you ? [08:09:47] no. only me. [08:09:56] then purging would do [08:09:56] 6 users. 1 admin. [08:10:34] purging? [08:10:39] sorry, figuring its the French word. English refers to cache purging. [08:11:33] Alex|Work: would http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Selective_deletion help ? [08:14:01] ah... thx. [08:14:08] i think this will work [08:15:03] Well, it works xD My question was : is the page useful :þ [08:15:17] (to explain that feature) [08:15:56] ok... i think this page is helpful :-P [08:16:09] changing your password might be reasonable anyway... [08:20:53] <]Hel[> http://cmwp.com/wiki/Japan_Time#Japan_Time_the_Movie:_The_Game:_The_Friend_Codes << Can I have some help determining where the CSS is that's causing those images to not be centered? [08:21:10] weiß jemand wie der path eines bildes in der db gespeichert ist°? [08:21:22] <]Hel[> concerns the tag [08:23:02] <]Hel[> ..and uh [08:23:12] oh i'm so sorry...ehm my question was...does anybody know how pictures are saved in the database or how the wiki knows which pic is saved in which path and to which article it belongs..(so sorry was fully in thoughts and didn't realise that i was asking in a wrong language) [08:23:34] <_wooz> lo [08:25:12] re [08:25:35] 03vasilievvv * r32052 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [08:25:35] * Introduced list=allimages [08:25:35] * (bug 13371) Build page set from image hashes [08:25:35] * Mark non-existent messages in meta=allmessages as missing [08:26:33] because i#m working on a pdf tool...it's programmed in python and works with regular expressions--> so the programm tekes the wikitext and translates it into latex --> pdf generation...so if i want to put images also in the pdf file the path to that image has to be in the text somehow...or a variable has to exist to get the path...has somebody an idea? [08:26:42] 03(FIXED) Build page set from image hashes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13371 +comment (10vasilvv) [08:34:43] is anybody able to tell me how i get the path of a picture!? [08:36:18] 03(mod) Browser detection in wikibits.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13389 (10lupo.bugzilla) [08:40:46] are images always in saved just in the folder images...or could it be possible that a "normal" pic is saved in a subfolder of images?! (my subfolders are archive, tmp, temp, math and thumb) [09:13:49] hi all.. i found interwiki links like this [[zh:%E9%AD%94%E8%A1%93]] in some articles [09:14:08] on wikipedia that is.. what is this, and how do i translate it to unicode/ [09:14:27] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percent_encoding [09:14:48] the two characters after each % are a byte in hex notation. decode that, and you have utf-8 [09:15:09] this is the encoding used in urls everywhere [09:15:28] Duesentrieb: yes, should have thought about it earlier :-) [09:15:29] thanks!! [09:16:51] 03vasilievvv * r32053 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryAllimages.php: Forgot to svn add it [09:17:18] hmm [09:17:39] undeletepagetitle is pretty vague [09:37:45] is there any way to disable mediawiki's session handling? i have my own database-based one, all setup. but it keeps trying to set it up, and there's no way to do it. (i'm not wanting to edit the core package) [09:42:58] mshadle: there's a hook tha to me *looks* like it's intended to do at least the authentication bit: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/AutoAuthenticate [09:43:42] mshadle: apart from that, mediawiki uses php's built in session handling - so if you want it to store session data in a database, then set php's session storage thingy. [09:48:36] basically, mediawiki will let you use it's b uilt in memcached, or built in files, but i think it has a chicken-and-egg scenario when it comes to anything else [09:49:07] i can't say $wgSessionStarted = true, because that variable isnt used until -after- it does its own wfSetupSession [09:49:16] it should include that already in the check [09:49:44] then it would short-circuit the call to wfSetupSession and allow for anything else to transparently provide the session support [10:03:38] I get a 'permission denied' error when trying to upload an image to my wiki. should the owner of the 'images' directory be 'apache' ? [10:04:31] or should I make that directory writable by everyone ? [10:07:34] ThomasV: it must be writable by whatever user runs the php script [10:08:05] which is "apache" or "www-data" if you are using mod_php, or your own user id when using suphp (often used for shared hosting) [10:08:49] ThomasV: the *owner* of the directories is only relevant if safe_mode is enabled in php. in that case it's tricky to get image uploading/thumbs to work at all. [10:09:12] ok, I made it writable by everoone [10:12:18] ThomasV: that's pretty common, though a bit unsafe :) [10:13:08] can anyone help me with KeepYourHandsToYourself? it doesn't seem to want to work :| (kinda annoying since it seems like the easiest thing in the world to install) :) [10:14:35] I've got it in the extensions dir, require_once'd it and I don't get a PHP error, so it finds it, but everyone can still edit everyone's entries [10:17:43] tanGee: it only limits editing to the actual user page. not all pages created by a user. [10:18:14] (maybe it locks subpages of the user page too, not sure. but that's it) [10:19:46] ah [10:19:53] misunderstood it then... [10:20:04] is there an extension you know of that does what I thought it did? [10:20:20] since mediawiki has no notion of a pages owner, i don't think its possible. [10:20:26] it sounds like you don't want a wiki at all [10:20:38] lol [10:20:43] mediawiki is designed for collabirative editing [10:20:47] you are trying to prevent exactly that [10:20:50] use something else [10:21:19] lol at people discussing beforeConfiguration hook [10:21:28] thats what localsettings are for ;-DDD [10:31:07] on second thought it's not the limiting editing to a user's own pages we needed, just to limit who could edit (ie staff), but I found $wgGroupPermissions :) [10:37:14] !access | tanGee [10:37:14] --mwbot-- tanGee: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [10:37:26] !cms | tanGee [10:37:26] --mwbot-- tanGee: You are advised to install an appropriate content management package if you want per-page access control and similar restrictions. See if you really want too. [10:58:33] 03tstarling * r32054 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/ (CentralAuth.i18n.php CentralAuth.php SpecialMergeAccount.php): Allow access to account merging to be restricted by group. [11:15:10] 03tstarling * r32055 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuthPlugin.php: Don't allow automatic account creation on private or fishbowl wikis. I'll disable the extension as well, to make doubly sure. [11:26:45] im creating a new specialpage base on the SpecialListusers page. Pb: when i add the include in my localsettings, i got an error saying that my class cannot extends the Alphabeticpager class anymore [11:26:54] based* [11:30:06] exact error message? [11:30:44] and which kind of class declaration? [11:30:55] Fatal error: Class 'AlphabeticPager' not found in /home/www/projects/sports-wiki.net/sports-wiki.net/includes/SpecialListuserspreview.php on line 44 [11:31:24] my declaration would be class UsersPagerPreview extends AlphabeticPager [11:31:32] hmm [11:31:53] Piero: this is probably does to load order [11:32:04] AlphabetPages should be in autoload [11:32:06] Piero: do you declare the class directly in the "main" file of your extension? [11:32:18] yes [11:32:20] Nikerabbit: but already hen localsettings is executed? [11:32:24] i only have one file [11:32:25] or is it added later? [11:32:43] Piero: that is generally not a good idea, easpecially for special pages. special page code should be loaded on demand. [11:33:13] Piero: i'm not 100% sure this is your problem, but it does sound like it. [11:33:37] are you not supposed to do: $wgSpecialPages['SpecialListuserspreview'] = 'SpecialListuserspreview'; in your file, and then include it in the localsettings.php [11:33:38] Duesentrieb: ah, that's true [11:34:42] Piero: here's the setup i use for a special page called "Contact" (implemented in the SpecialContact class): [11:34:48] $dir = dirname(__FILE__) . '/'; [11:34:48] $wgExtensionMessagesFiles['ContactPage'] = $dir . 'ContactPage.i18n.php'; [11:34:48] $wgAutoloadClasses['SpecialContact'] = $dir . 'SpecialContact.php'; [11:34:48] $wgSpecialPages['Contact'] = 'SpecialContact'; [11:34:50] what im doign here, is just reusing the page SpecialListusers to do the samething with a different display [11:35:34] Piero: yes, but don't do it every time localsettings.php is parsed. defer the declaration of your class to the time when it is needed. see above. [11:36:05] uh, i'm not quite sure what $wgExtensionMessagesFiles does (i didn't put that that). Nikerabbit...? [11:36:28] thats for the internationalization [11:36:41] obviously :D [11:36:45] the file is for internationalization. [11:36:54] but what exactly does registering it in that array do? [11:37:17] Piero: basically, $wgSpecialPages['Contact'] = 'SpecialContact'; sais in what class the special page is implemented. and wgAutoloadClasses['SpecialContact'] = $dir . 'SpecialContact.php' tells what file to load when that class is needed. [11:37:36] it registers the i18n file for mediawiki [11:37:49] for loading it in various places [11:37:49] Piero: that is more efficient, and also has the effect of putting the decalration off until a point in time when the classes it needs are also loaded (or at least known to the autoloader) [11:37:51] so that piece of code goes in my main extension files [11:38:04] file* [11:38:21] Nikerabbit: yes, but it doesn't say "internationalization files for extension", but "extension manages files"... i don't quite get it. [11:38:27] Piero: yes. [11:38:50] Piero: that's pretty much all that goes there (plus extension credits, plus initialization of any config variables) [11:38:57] Duesentrieb: the same thing with different words? [11:39:46] but i dont have 3files like the extension should be implemented... :P i just have one file, and i mean, thats what is done for SpecialListusers.php, which im just copying and extending, why can'T I just do it like SpecialListusers? [11:39:55] Nikerabbit: huh?... oh, damn! i misread "MessageFiles" as "ManagedFiles" and got confused :) [11:40:09] Duesentrieb: that is a achievement :D [11:40:25] Piero: because it seems that at initalization times, the classes you are using are not yet known. [11:40:40] hmm i see now what you mean [11:41:00] Piero: there may be other ways to fix that, but the Right Thing is to split up your extension into two files (or three, if using any extra system messages) [11:41:10] but how can it work with specialListusers then? [11:41:13] hmm ok [11:41:46] the last time i did it my boss didnt want it and i had to redo it in one file.. :( [11:41:56] silly boss. [11:42:09] !extensions [11:42:09] --mwbot-- MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See for an overview of known extensions. [11:42:28] yeah i know this doc, thats what i used the last time [11:44:03] is somebody here using sidebarex? [11:51:18] it's an sidebar extension to configure groupbased sidebars?! [11:58:17] I'm a sysop in our mediawiki ... how do I change a user's e-mail or reset their password? I can't seem to find a user admin page [11:59:06] there's no way [11:59:11] maybe you can use a script in maintenance [11:59:23] or you can directly set the email in the db [11:59:33] wow [12:13:25] there's an extension called PasswordReset [12:13:48] and there's a maintenance script called changePassword.php [12:29:00] if I forgot the admin password of the wiki , is there a way I can clear or retreive it? [12:29:26] update query in the db apparently [12:32:09] I said, there's an extension and a maintenance script [12:32:35] :) I know. updating the db was easier and it worked just fine [13:07:01] morning [13:07:28] I'm trying to upgrade to the latest mediawiki 1.11.. and I'm getting an error when I run php update.php about some of the php files in the includes dir [13:07:41] do I have to add that includes dir to my php includes path or something first? [13:08:13] http://www.pastebin.ca/946099 [13:08:19] thats the error i get [13:08:40] I'm following the instructions on the wiki [13:10:31] looks like you are missing some files [13:11:02] yeah but I'm not though [13:11:43] [root@resdb-lks wiki]# ls -l /app/htdoc/html/wiki/includes/DefaultSettings.php [13:11:43] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 91565 Mar 3 07:09 /app/htdoc/html/wiki/includes/DefaultSettings.php [13:12:09] it is different from /app/http/html/wiki/includes/SiteConfiguration.php [13:12:12] yeah [13:12:17] and that isnt there... [13:12:57] do you have some kind of custom setup? [13:13:02] no [13:13:06] i just downloaded the tar bar [13:13:12] untared and the only thing ive done [13:13:19] is copy over the localsettings.php from the old wiki [13:13:29] and change the AdminSettings.php to point to the old database [13:13:34] check the include paths in your localsettings and fix them [13:13:58] ini_set( "include_path", ".:$IP:$IP/includes:$IP/languages" ); [13:13:58] require_once( "includes/DefaultSettings.php" ); [13:14:06] thats what i ahve at the top of the file.. [13:14:35] hmp [13:14:42] $IP is wrong then? [13:15:01] why yes it is [13:15:20] all this stuff s hould be in the document root correct? [13:15:32] $IP should be defined few lines higher [13:15:54] in a subdirectory under document root [13:17:43] ok... its going to run the update [13:19:37] hey is there a way to tell the version of media wiki from inside media wiki [13:20:16] illsci, [[special:version]] ? [13:20:36] 03(mod) On paged categories, article totals and subcat totals are incorrect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1212 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [13:27:04] ugh.. what a nickname [13:27:23] me too :) [13:27:55] Im trying to indent
 sections useing : in front. But that only works on single lines. Any idea on how I should do that for multi-lines?
[13:28:13] 	Mesophan, 
[13:28:16] 	does anyone know where the AlphabeticPager class is  implemented?
[13:28:16] 	Should work.
[13:28:24] 	Piero, grep is good for that.
[13:28:35] 	grep didnt find it
[13:28:51] 	Piero, ./includes/Pager.php:abstract class AlphabeticPager extends IndexPager {
[13:28:57] 	Simetrical: no other way without messing with in-line styles?
[13:29:00] 	What command did you use?
[13:29:20] 	trying to keep the wiki .. pure. :)
[13:29:27] 	Mesophan, well, you could do 
...
, which is all that : does, but that's *less* semantic, not more. [13:29:38] oops not on the right folder! :p grrr... [13:29:46] Using : for indentation is less pure than using inline styles. [13:29:50] True. Got to take the good with the bad I guess. I'll try the margin tip. :) [13:29:55] Because it abuses structural markup for presentational purposes. [13:32:44] hi [13:36:49] That seems to work very neatly indeed. [13:37:06] *Mesophan scratches his head. "I guess I should work more with styles even if its a wiki..." [13:39:04] Hello, does anyone here know why the word gordon would be blocked from creating articles in a mediawiki instance? [13:39:29] eghjaytee, because the wiki owner configured it that way using a spam regex or something? [13:39:50] would that be in LocalSettings, Simetrical? [13:40:04] eghjaytee, most likely somewhere there, yes. [13:40:10] At least you should find some hint to it. [13:40:17] thanks [13:40:22] If not a config variable, some included extension. [13:43:10] 03mkroetzsch * r32056 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Slight extensions in RDF data export (+some global statistics/settings in RDF) [13:44:30] *NicDumZ waits for the question spree "when does SUL pilot will start ?" [13:48:36] question regarding updating a wiki. Is is the best idea to update with each new release of mediawiki or is there a default timeline where upgrading from an older version is for sure still working ? [13:49:05] i.e. i am using 1.11 at the moment [13:51:01] so in general is it the best way to wait for 1.12 stable or would it even work to wait for 1.14 and skip 1.12 ? [13:51:21] ...wait for 1.13 and skip 1.12 ? [13:51:31] Both should work. [13:52:14] 03purodha * r32057 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesKsh.php: Fix some minor glitches and grammar broken by recent modifications. [13:53:05] 03raymond * r32058 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Localisation updates German [13:54:15] odb|fide1_, the upgrade procedure from 1.12 to 1.14 will basically be "run the upgrade script for 1.12 -> 1.13, then run the upgrade script for 1.13 -> 1.14". [13:54:22] In principle there should therefore be no difference at all. [13:57:11] Simetrical: but this step by step upgrading is for sure limited to a period / number of release, right ? [13:57:23] odb|fide1_, no. [13:57:25] Why should it be? [13:57:29] mh [13:57:32] Doesn't cost us anything to keep ancient maintenance scripts around. [13:57:42] true too [13:57:44] Tim says he once successfully upgraded from like 1.4 or 1.3 to 1.11 or so. [13:57:53] Simetrical: nice to know [13:57:55] btw, does the upgrade script run all the step-by-step upgrades by itself? [13:58:00] thank you very much for the answer [14:01:37] zocky, as opposed to what? [14:06:33] Can Mediawiki use php5-memcache for caching? [14:07:12] Simetrical, as opposed to making you run each upgrade step by hand [14:07:47] zocky, no, it's done automatically. It just checks, for each update, whether the update has already been applied. [14:07:57] By parsing DESCRIBE table; or something. [14:12:01] 03mkroetzsch * r32059 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/URIResolver/SMW_SpecialURIResolver.php: Disable output for redirect ... [14:15:09] as i am just inhere. big thanks to all developers of this project and the help in this channel. Thumbs up [14:15:18] 03raymond * r32060 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: Localisation updates German [14:48:29] hi [14:52:29] i have a little problem with a fresh upsettet mediawiki and a fileuploadproblem: The images are uploaded, stored in images/thumb etc. but the thumbnail makes problem: http://nopaste.info/055603165b.html access denied for bitmap.php, how was the phpscript able to copy the image to images/xxx with the false ownership? [14:58:51] hey there [14:59:50] is there a maximum length for filenames? [15:04:06] yes, but it depends on the filesystem and the OS [15:04:28] but the db field only has 255 byte... [15:04:53] ok, so 255 bytes are perfect for my db :) [15:05:02] yes.# [15:05:22] unless tim knows otherwise :) [15:05:27] oh, you think he means in mediawiki? [15:05:31] I was just answering the question [15:05:37] >_< [15:05:55] :) [15:06:35] What about category protection? [15:07:01] Is there any bug on it? [15:09:09] VasilievVV: what's category protection? [15:09:50] So nobody expect admins/autoconfirmeds can add or remove pages from category [15:10:08] that won't work. [15:10:18] Why not? [15:10:18] categorization is bound to wikitext. [15:10:25] anyone who can edit the wiki text can change categorization [15:10:34] Sure [15:11:04] But we can array_diff() old and new list of categories, and check protection for each category [15:11:21] on save, you mean? [15:11:34] ugly. but possibly doable. though i don't like it. [15:11:51] Why not? [15:13:53] VasilievVV: because the categorization could be done in a template, for example. conditionally. depending on paramters. [15:14:52] VasilievVV: that could mean that the protection doesn't trigger when the page with the template is edited, and then the template is edited, and while the protection doesn't trigger there either, it causes the page that contains the template to be (de)categorized [15:14:59] oh sure... that is easy to hack via templates [15:15:08] so its pointless [15:22:35] may I ask for help or is this channel for another purpose? [15:22:49] the_Executioner, read topic: MediaWiki development & support [15:23:05] then, I guess not. [15:23:10] sorry for bothering you. [15:23:42] . . . [15:23:48] 03tstarling * r32061 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuthUser.php: [15:23:48] * Allow the database list to be taken from a hook instead of $wgLocalDatabases. This allows private wikis to be efficiently excluded [15:23:48] * $db->update() doesn't return anything useful, it returns true on success and throws an exception on failure [15:23:57] hehe [15:25:15] 03vasilievvv * r32062 10/trunk/phase3/includes/AutoLoader.php: Yes, and also I forgot autoloader [15:26:38] domas, no multi-table UPDATE syntax? :( [15:27:49] Simetrical: why not? [15:27:58] domas, I mean in our DB abstraction layer. [15:28:05] Database::update seems to only accept one table. [15:28:06] we don't use that too often [15:28:21] *Simetrical has a use for it: updating a summary table in one query instead of six [15:29:04] 03vasilievvv * r32063 10/trunk/phase3/includes/AutoLoader.php: Whoops, it's case-sensitive! [15:29:26] Simetrical: why do you need it? [15:29:43] You meant UPDATE ... JOIN ON? [15:29:44] VasilievVV, I said, to update a summary table in one query instead of . . . actually it's instead of four. [15:29:45] Whatever. [15:29:54] Well, whatever join syntax you like, yes. [15:37:28] My clever method didn't work. :( [15:37:33] MySQL returned error "1111: Invalid use of group function (localhost)" [15:38:16] "UPDATE `category` JOIN `categorylinks` ON cat_title=cl_from LEFT JOIN `page` ON page_namespace=14 AND page_title=cl_to SET cat_pages=COUNT(*), cat_subcats=COUNT(page_namespace=14), cat_files=COUNT(page_namespace=6) WHERE cat_title='0s'" [15:38:29] 03vasilievvv * r32064 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryAllimages.php: I hate it. Sure [15:38:32] Rats. I guess I'll do it with four queries. [15:38:40] *Simetrical goes off to school [15:54:59] 03(mod) enable Email notifications on English Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13386 +shell (10ssanbeg) [15:57:33] hello all - is there anything on 1.11.1 that would automatically lock a user out? Our wiki is quite small (50 users of which about 10 regularly contribute) and 2 of the 10 say that they've been locked out, like someone has changed their password [15:58:21] they requested a new password and that worked fine - they can log back in. I cannot recreate this at all. All my test accounts are fine [16:06:20] *MinuteElectron is dissapointed. [16:10:35] I go to all that trouble of outlining my points in an e-mail and get one response. [16:10:59] :( [16:11:08] Maybe I'll just go do it on my own [16:11:13] Dantman: busy? [16:11:21] depends [16:11:29] :S [16:12:18] Dantman: Want to collaborate on an extension manager\repository system with me? I noticed you talking about it once and thought you might be interested, I'll do it on my own if you don't have the time though. [16:12:36] hmmm... parts of it perhaps [16:12:49] fair enuogh [16:13:49] *MinuteElectron goes off, will code some stuff later. [16:14:50] I've had ideas bouncing in my head all day, just need to put them into code. [16:19:12] heh... ^_^ know the feeling... [16:19:20] Lets see... [16:20:57] WikiVid, Allinone.php, LiWiki, Code Zip, Wiki-Tools, my own site, using Open ID, Wiki Eye, the Extension Definition Facility, ELIS, ^_^ and a lot more... [16:21:43] However, I can only actually finish a small amount of the idea's I come up with [16:21:43] well... time for work... [16:21:44] Stupid dead end job.. [16:22:31] ... [16:24:39] "extension defintion facility".. [16:28:54] 03raymond * r32065 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: Bump version no. per change of proofreadpage.js in r32032 [16:31:36] where is a good place to get help creating themes or skins for mediawiki? [16:35:11] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Skins seems like a good start [16:48:28] hi [16:48:40] is it possible to center images created with the imgtag template? [16:48:54] err, navimg [16:51:08] mind blank :\ [16:51:28] bonan matenon [16:51:40] 03(NEW) Please add a transwiki import source to dewiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13399 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (raimond.spekking) [16:52:00] we added a new table in the db related to the users, in this table i have a blob containing a user description, my problem is, when i display this description, i want all the words that have or could be an article, becoming a link to their page. [16:52:50] my question is: is there something in the app that analyse a piece of text and adds the tags around them? [16:53:07] i mean aruond the words that have an article about them? [16:53:20] Does it make sense? :P [16:54:39] no [16:54:42] well, it does make sense [16:54:50] but there is no such piece of code included within mediawiki [16:57:51] 03(NEW) Add a transwiki import source for commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13400 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (raimond.spekking) [16:58:56] ok [16:59:38] so when you look at an article, lets say in wikipedia, all the words in the article that are links to other pages, how's that generated? [16:59:56] the parser must be doing that huh? [17:03:26] Piero: people put [[word]] [17:03:30] which generates a link [17:03:47] ok bb code [17:04:03] no [17:04:04] wikitext [17:04:07] that is not bb code [17:04:15] which my user would have to do when they write their description [17:04:16] ok [17:05:30] 03(mod) Add bot generated spam reports on enwiki to robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13398 +shell (10mrzmanwiki) [17:12:19] hello ! [17:14:30] What is the way to create a namespace which display automatically content. For example, even if Category:FooBar doesn't exists, the articles of this category are displayed. I want a namespace News_Archives:2008-02 display something (let's say 2008-02) automatically, even if I never created News_Archives:2008-02 page ? [17:19:23] Is there any way to bulk create users? I'm using mediawiki in a corporate environment and need to email every employee a username and password. [17:29:02] is there a way i can write a table on an article that will have sort options for the columns? [17:34:22] 03rotem * r32066 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Fix. [17:46:24] 03raymond * r32067 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialImport.php: Fix double escaping [17:50:56] 03raymond * r32068 10/branches/REL1_12/phase3/includes/SpecialImport.php: Merge r32067: Fix double escaping [17:52:58] :| [18:02:37] 03(NEW) OggHandler confuses Totem on Linux with QuickTime - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13401 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (brion) [18:06:30] 03ialex * r32069 10/trunk/debs/squid/debian/errors/error.html: Per request of str4nd in #wikimedia-tech: update finnish translation [18:11:27] hi. I'm dealing with a MW hosted install, with safe mode on. I followed directions on $wgEnableUploads and $wgHashedUploadDirectory but still getting "empty file" messages. Image dirs are 777 now. Any hints/workarounds? [18:17:03] 03catrope * r32070 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiMain.php: API: Updating action=help credits to give Yuri and Vasiliev due credit [18:25:18] mw 1.12.0rc1, fwiw [18:33:50] BrokenArrow: uh, don't use safe mode :P [18:34:55] brion: would do if I could, the hoster seems uninclined to. and the prospective user doesn't want to trash it right now. [18:35:09] !safemode | BrokenArrow [18:35:09] --mwbot-- BrokenArrow: safe_mode is an ill-concieved, broken-by-design setting in PHP that is supposed to make broken scripts safe. It was deprecated in PHP5 and removed in PHP6. MediaWiki can run with safe_mode enabled, but many of the advanced features will not work or need additional configuration (image thumbnailing using ImageMagick, for example). See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Safe_mode for more information. [18:35:48] VasilievVV: thanks, been there, done that. still have to check under what user the scripts run, atm. [18:36:59] Hi! I'd like to change my hosting... I want an hosting with: PHP5 and the possibility to disable PHP Safe Mode.. What I choose? [18:37:20] (or a "certified" hosting for MediaWiki :P) [18:37:39] I can reccomend silentflame.com - they are very good value for money and have PHP 5 without safe mode. [18:37:56] of course that is just my opinion, there may be others to suit your needs [18:38:10] I'm looking at http://www.stampwants.com/wiki/index.php/Uploading_files#Safe_Mode_Restrictions [18:43:30] BrokenArrow: afaik safe mode _should_ work with basic uploads as long as you have the hashes subdirs either turned off or pre-made with the right ownership [18:43:34] *however* [18:43:41] thumbnail generation doesn't work [18:43:56] unless, maybe, you manually create a bunch of subdirs :P [18:44:18] the root problem is that safe mode *really sucks* and in many shared-host configurations bascially means you can't have your web app create subdirectories and then use them [18:44:20] it's really fucked up [18:44:22] or used thumb.php perhaps? [18:44:26] and generate them on the fly each time [18:44:30] heh [18:44:32] might work :P [18:45:47] brion: if private logs where added, would it be fine if they were still at special:logs? [18:45:51] brion: ow. however, changing directory ownership is a one-off thing that can be asked to the hoster, I hope. [18:46:48] AaronSchulz: mm, in theory i suppose. currently we consider the logging table to be public [18:46:56] so we'd have to either lock it down, or have the interface be able to query alternate backends [18:47:08] AaronSchulz: you will make the toolserver sad if you do that [18:47:11] BrokenArrow: well no, as the directories are generated as needed [18:47:18] for instance at least one subdir for every file you upload [18:47:26] i've the same problem of this http://www.stampwants.com/wiki/index.php/Uploading_files#Safe_Mode_Restrictions [18:47:49] i tried to set $wgHashedUploadDirectory to false but the problem still remains [18:47:55] brion: ok, for revisiondelete, when content is hidden from sysops, I want it to be in a private log [18:48:02] sort of like now [18:48:06] *brion wonders why 'Atomic absorption spectroscopy' is on his watchlist [18:48:09] files uploaded by MediaWiki are owned by 'apache'......... [18:48:22] ah i deleted an unused image three years ago [18:48:36] brion: would a clone table with private_ in the name be evil? [18:51:23] bluh :) [18:51:45] 03catrope * r32071 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryAllimages.php: API: Adding aiprop parameter to list=allimages, some cleanup [18:55:14] "* Magic word formatnum can now take raw suffix to undo formatting" [18:55:19] *brion isn't quite sure what that means [18:55:37] *brion pokes Nikerabbit [18:55:43] does that mean it *un*formats numbers? [18:55:45] *AaronSchulz pokes brion [18:55:50] cause i think that should get a different name than raw formatnum [18:56:04] brion: not sure what to do here :) [18:57:37] 03(NEW) Quality revisions make younger versions appear as unreviewed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13402 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken) [18:58:18] AaronSchulz: i saw a couple bits in r32002 like this: [18:58:19] + $last = $sk->makeKnownLinkObj( $titleObj, wfMsgHtml('diff'), [18:58:20] + "target=" . $this->mTarget . "×tamp=" . $row->ar_timestamp . "&diff=prev" ); [18:58:27] seems to be missing some normalization and escaping [18:58:35] *brion is going over commits from the weekend [18:58:35] whee [18:59:09] AaronSchulz: are we talking like entire private logs, or privitization (heh) of individual entries? [18:59:15] I'm trying to do a bulk image import using maintenance/ImageImport.php and get this error: [18:59:18] brion: well in my opinion raw format is just another format :) [18:59:20] http://pastebin.com/d535959dd [18:59:23] brion: whole private logs [18:59:37] like a "suppression log" [18:59:54] Nikerabbit: hrmfl [19:00:07] i've the same problem of this http://www.stampwants.com/wiki/index.php/Uploading_files#Safe_Mode_Restrictions - i tried to set $wgHashedUploadDirectory to false but the problem still remains ........ [19:02:41] 03ialex * r32072 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryAllimages.php: Setting svn:keywords Id on ApiQueryAllimages.php [19:03:04] LolliRock: if I'm not mistaken, brion just told us that tere's basically no chance of having a fully functional MW with safe mode on [19:03:27] basically, file ops under safe mode suck. hard. [19:03:36] in theory, a db backend for images would sidestep this problem [19:03:59] or a strongly limited directory layout, with permissions and ownership carefully managed [19:04:00] that's not what Tim and others were working on? [19:04:03] I'm not running in safe mode. [19:04:15] we don't generally put a lot of effort into safe mode [19:04:19] every once in a while somebody fiddles with it [19:04:38] mmh.. ok... and do you know a good hosting where I can transfer my domain? [19:04:59] aBSDaemon: version? [19:05:00] 03(mod) Quality revisions make younger versions appear as unreviewed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13402 (10pbirken) [19:05:48] brion: the main problem is that thumbs generate subdirs too? they can't be dumped all in one place like the main images? [19:06:11] a dir is made for each file [19:06:14] thumbs go in it [19:06:30] when the file is updated or purged, the generated thumbs are listed and removed so they can be regenerated [19:08:03] ok, no chance the whole architecture will change... [19:08:29] well, not overnight anyway [19:10:35] hi people [19:12:28] what about Extension:SpecialInterwiki and "zzz wiki" http://wiki.zzz.ee/ ? [19:13:37] 1.3.9, ow :) [19:14:54] [[Test]] [19:15:22] [[Fail]] [19:15:33] *ialex pokes unilinky [19:16:19] can i write a table on an article page that lets me sort the columns? [19:16:40] class="sorttable" [19:17:02] MZMcBride, it's quieted here [19:17:10] Ahh. [19:17:39] ialex: I think you have an extra 't'. [19:17:51] MZMcBride: maybe :) [19:18:22] anyone know of a better tutorial on using the maintenance/importImages.php script? [19:18:36] Check mediawiki.org? [19:19:07] Already there and it's about half written. [19:21:59] I did not have a LocalSettings.php file in my ./ directory so I added one, however the changes are not being reflected from it. Editing DefaultSettings causes the changes to be made, how can I get it to work from LocalSettings? [19:22:29] am I missing something on the importImage script. [19:23:04] I'm SSHed in and running the command via CLI [19:23:59] 03aaron * r32073 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUndelete.php: [19:23:59] *Fix some escaping issues [19:23:59] *$remaining and such were not getting used anymore, use them again. [19:24:06] help [19:24:11] brion: anyways, back to private logs ;) [19:24:14] i used a debian packaged version of mediawiki [19:24:20] this $IP variable is wrong though [19:24:33] since debian policy placed all the mediawiki files in separate dirs [19:24:40] how do i change it [19:27:26] ?? [19:27:32] aBSDaemon: offhand it sounds like you're running an old version and didn't provide parameters, or gave it an empty directory...? [19:27:45] hi [19:27:51] whats the public image upload dir by default? [19:28:32] how do i remove the login link in this thing? [19:28:57] hm, someone writes: chmod 777 images/* -R [19:29:02] mib_zxq8ey4n: Hm? [19:29:09] but i think you better give permissions to the apache user [19:29:17] brion: noticed just now that you can't have '{}' in uri names (the after the #) [19:29:17] MZMcBride: i want to remove the login link [19:29:23] like chown -R myapacheuser ./images [19:29:27] mib_zxq8ey4n: Use CSS. [19:29:28] arg [19:30:05] i.e. [[Bracket#Curly brackets or braces { }|braces]] wont work [19:30:16] feature or bug? [19:30:18] 03(NEW) New flags are not immediately visible in version history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13403 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken) [19:30:18] MZMcBride: wtf?? so u mean to say no one thought of the possibility that not everyone wants to login through media wiki's interface? [19:30:43] AzaTht: { and } are reversed chars which we don't allow in titles [19:30:55] since they're markup i'm not sure how hard it would be to make that work sanely :D [19:31:19] brion: titles yes ツ but section headers? [19:31:37] well it's considered a part of the title for this purpose [19:31:45] it seems that they "worked" in the old parser [19:31:52] mib_zxq8ey4n: No, they did. And they added a class="pt-anonlogin". [19:32:05] I put templates in categories. Can I configure that they don't show up in the categories? [19:32:34] or not [19:32:35] Categories in templates or categories in templates? [19:33:29] 03(mod) Add a transwiki import source for commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13400 (10N/A) [19:33:30] the templates shouldn't be listed in the categories they conntected to [19:34:16] that may not make sense but i use the templates templates for adding articles of the Main ns [19:35:04] [[Category:Foo]] [19:35:39] on the template? [19:35:53] yes [19:36:07] then my template is useless [19:36:13] that will make the category only appear on pages the template is included on [19:36:24] cos I'd have to tell my users to remove this line when adding an article [19:37:13] hmm? [19:37:16] MZMcBride: where can i find this? i searched the entire directory but only came up with 'tooltip-pt-anonlogin' in MessagesEn.php [19:37:18] I'm thinking of changing includes/CategoryPage.php Ignore Namespace = Template [19:37:56] mib_zxq8ey4n: Use your browser to view the source of the page. [19:39:30] MZMcBride: i don't see how that would help in preventing the actual html from being generated, css can on avoid displaying it [19:39:52] All you said was "remove". ;) [19:40:00] maybe in LocalSettings: $wgContentNamespaces = Main etc list all except Template? [19:40:05] Check DefaultSettings.php, though I doubt there's anything... [19:40:09] definition: $wgContentNamespaces - Namespaces which are considered to contain real content, or articles. [19:41:41] i'll look into it :) seems it would be better off if it were just one big file :D [19:44:42] btw how do i get LocalSettings.php to work, do i need something special? i didn't have one so i added it, but it's like it's not being used or something [19:45:04] Well, without a LocalSettings.php, you won't have a working site. [19:45:14] You need to run config/index.php to create the file. [19:46:43] my wiki runs ok. i ran config/index.php again and it said my wiki is configured properly [19:47:07] Then you have a working LocalSettings.php [19:48:35] where? isn't it supposed to be in the root directory? [19:48:52] root directory where your wiki is [19:50:45] yup that's what i meant [19:50:56] but it's not there, well it wasn't so i added one [19:51:40] 03(NEW) Inconsistency in use of UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13404 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken) [19:55:00] I had to configure the file manualy [19:56:47] the config script should create a LocalSettings in the /config directory [19:57:09] then you have to move it into the main directory your wiki is in [19:58:04] 03aaron * r32074 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/LocalFile.php: File should still count as existing if hidden [19:58:08] 03(NEW) IPs see quality revisions instead of sighted version if override is active - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13405 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken) [19:58:15] AaronSchulz_: busy? [19:59:42] When editing on wikipedia: what is this "Insert" section called with the special characters? I'd like to use it as well [19:59:57] MediaWiki:Edittools [20:01:31] hui :) [20:05:59] can i disable a code in a template, but when the template is "called" on a page the code won't be disabled? [20:07:58] brion: man, where did all these flaggedrevs specs come from? ;) [20:13:36] 03catrope * r32075 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiMain.php: API: Adding more detail in credits [20:15:00] Edittools: is there some alt option? e.g. a|b what would display "b" but insert "a" [20:15:58] cos i'd need to insert long text but need a short insert link [20:16:19] lo [20:18:02] . [20:20:08] Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still doesn't work, try logging out and logging back in. :( [20:30:16] can I allow html/javascript on a page liek Mediawiki:Edittools by ading some code? [20:31:46] 03hashar * r32076 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/DefaultSettings.php): Fix #13265 : image/x-bmp not handled [20:32:07] 03(FIXED) $wgMediaHandlers is missing image/x-bmp in DefaultSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13265 +comment (10hashar) [20:41:06] Hey, is there a known MW bug where pages take >20.0 seconds to serve? [20:50:45] AaronSchulz: ping ? [20:55:24] 03(mod) Allow non-Arabic numerals in {{#expr:}} - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13379 (10huji.huji) [20:58:12] Is there a simple command line tool that will convert a wiki text file to html, i.e. something like stx2any, but for mediawiki syntax? [21:01:26] OK, I found it - ParserCache::getETag() can take > ~20 seconds (timeout?) ... wtf? [21:02:23] grumbel: you have to use mediawiki :) [21:04:49] Dossy: maybe it s a problem with your memcached installation ? [21:04:54] grumbel - wget ;-) [21:05:28] 03raymond * r32077 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUpload.php: [21:05:28] Some rework on 'mainUploadForm': [21:05:28] * Add a nice fieldset around the input form [21:05:28] * Add a CSS id for the table [21:05:28] * Found CSS classes for aligning in shared.css -> use them! [21:05:28] * Fix indention [21:05:43] tim starling coded maintenance/dumpHTML.php that let you export a mediawiki wiki install to flat files [21:06:15] hashar: that's the irony - no memcached here! [21:06:25] Speaking about wget, is it possible to retrieve just the plain wiki text and/or just the plain html (i.e. without navbar and stuff, just an article)? [21:06:26] try to investigate a bit more ) [21:06:37] ialex: have time/ [21:06:56] Hojjat: yes [21:07:16] ialex: I've been a little busy these days, any progress from your side? [21:07:25] Hojjat: no [21:07:31] okay, no problem [21:07:35] we'll deal with it later [21:08:36] I'm probably missing something but where is wfGetDB() defined? Besides that, what would be the proper way to open a connection to a different DB than the default one that's used for mediawiki itself? [21:09:37] Ok, found that I can get the wiki text with action='raw', now still the question on how to convert that to html [21:10:00] action=render [21:10:04] does MW, for a single request, use one single DB connection? [21:10:16] Dossy: can use multiple, if needed [21:10:23] can you force it not to? [21:10:38] no, not really, why? [21:10:45] usually it uses just one [21:11:43] Hmm. [21:11:54] having a serious hang issue, and it smells like something is waiting and eventaully timing out [21:12:00] every page request is taking >20 seconds [21:12:16] i'm stepping through the code and there's several points in includes/Article.php where it happens [21:12:26] heeeeee [21:12:28] how sad [21:12:32] where it happens? [21:12:47] $wgOut->setETag($parserCache->getETag($this, $wgUser)); [21:12:53] that's one place where it happened. [21:12:56] My second problem seems to be solved by ?action=render, which gives plain html [21:13:08] 03(NEW) to change the logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13406 normal; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (aprekates) [21:13:10] specifically, this call: $article->mTitle->quickUserCan( 'edit' ) [21:13:32] Are there any other interesting ?action= commands that are not in the UI that are worth to know? [21:13:50] grumbel: have a look at includes/Wiki.php :) [21:14:42] hm... nice fresh take on teh support formum / bug tracking theme: http://getsatisfaction.com [21:14:50] ...aaaand: http://getsatisfaction.com/wikipedia [21:14:54] hashar: ok, thanks [21:14:57] (wrong name, of course) [21:21:08] BartVB: good catch! I can't figure where wfGetDB is defined eitehr! o_O [21:21:47] Hojjat, just learned from domas that it's defined in GlobalFunctions.php [21:21:51] Hojjat: globalfunctions.php [21:22:00] 03(mod) to change the logo for el.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13406 summary (10aprekates) [21:22:02] fgrep -R 'function wfGetDB' . [21:22:11] nearly all wf functions are in globalfunctions.php [21:22:18] oh right [21:22:33] hashar: that is what I did, and failed! [21:22:43] hashar: it has & [21:22:46] hashar: it is defined as function &wfGetDB (note that &) [21:23:02] hmm, narrowing the call stack ... it looks like wfMsg("group-user"); is taking a long time [21:23:15] ./includes/GlobalFunctions.php [21:23:19] domas: ... which makes it passable by reference, right? [21:23:30] right [21:23:33] Hojjat: in php5 everything is 'by reference' [21:23:38] it is php4ism [21:23:54] I though brion removed all of them [21:25:55] 03(NEW) MediaWiki:Powersearch is used in two places - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13407 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (lejonel) [21:28:48] hey [21:28:59] is it possible to put a template in the main skin php file? [21:29:14] i want to make modifications to a menu from the wiki [21:29:53] phrearch: by template do you mean a Template:xxx template or something else? [21:30:00] yes [21:30:05] template:Quicklinks [21:30:14] i want to make a reference to that in the php file [21:30:28] data['Quicklinks'];?> [21:30:29] should be possible, but it'd be easier if you used MediaWiki:Quicklinks [21:30:32] this doesnt work :/ [21:30:40] yea, i made it that way, and called data['Quicklinks'];?> [21:31:09] http://jslplus.os-networks.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Quicklinks [21:31:10] did you set $this->data['Quicklinks'] = wfMsg('Quicklinks'); [21:32:03] prior to calling that echo line? [21:32:12] no [21:32:15] AHA! [21:32:17] you need to [21:32:20] ok cool [21:32:22] MessageCache::lock() [21:32:35] for ($i=0; $i < MSG_WAIT_TIMEOUT && !$this->mMemc->add( $lockKey, 1, MSG_LOCK_TIMEOUT ); $i++ ) { [21:32:35] sleep(1); [21:32:35] } [21:33:26] how did mUseCache = true happen? [21:33:43] $this->mUseCache = !is_null( $memCached ); [21:33:44] aha. [21:34:19] 03huji * r32078 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 4 dirs): (bug 13407) MediaWiki:Powersearch is used in two places [21:34:47] 03(FIXED) MediaWiki:Powersearch is used in two places - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13407 +comment (10huji.huji) [21:35:25] can somebody help me - the first step auf the medawiki installation ist complete. But i cant find the file loacalsettings.php in config in order to copy it to the mein directory [21:35:35] has somebody a clue? [21:35:42] http://jslplus.os-networks.net/wiki/Main_Page [21:35:51] Traveler0: is your config directory writable by the webserver? [21:35:53] its showing the mainblock, but not the wiki content [21:36:10] how do i know this [21:36:20] sorry i am a bloody beginner [21:36:30] what are the directory permissions? [21:37:00] skizzerz ? are you the same skizzerz [21:37:02] ?? [21:37:06] 03huji * r32079 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: * Adding/updating Persian translations [21:37:14] Traveler0: same sizzerz from where? [21:37:27] *skizzerz >_> (can't even spel my OWN nick right) [21:37:33] a few minutes ago i was in a another chat [21:37:48] on freenode or elsewhere? [21:37:50] there was a skizzerz toooo [21:38:11] elsewhere [21:38:15] probably not then [21:38:20] they told me to come to here [21:38:30] can i add a new name space that won't be considered in categories etc? [21:38:31] owait, are you talking about #wikia [21:38:36] yeah, that's me [21:38:43] yes..... [21:38:45] that was it [21:38:48] muinator, right? [21:38:54] yes [21:39:05] i just forgot to give me a nick [21:39:46] k [21:40:17] anyway, what FTP client are you using? [21:40:26] 03(mod) Change logo of el.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13406 summary (10raimond.spekking) [21:40:37] im using smart ftp [21:41:00] ok, not familiar w/ that one [21:41:01] and meanwhile i managed to find this things you are taling about [21:41:07] cool :) [21:41:27] so what are the directory permissions? (also called chmod) [21:41:42] just go on config an right mouse button on properties [21:41:52] wait a minute [21:43:10] the folder config hast the properties permissions 755, then comes 3 groups [21:43:29] "user, group, other" [21:43:36] is that helpful [21:45:23] muinator - what are the 2 names after the 755? [21:45:35] 03(mod) IPs see quality revisions instead of sighted version if override is active - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13405 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [21:45:55] you should see rwxr-x-r-x in the list [21:46:55] below of 755 [21:46:56] Can I get a little help? I went through the installation, everything looked good, but when I load my wiki, I get white [21:47:00] nothing [21:47:04] are 3 columns [21:47:13] greenman: that usually indicates a php fatal error [21:47:26] check your web server's error log, and/or enable error display in PHP [21:47:34] alright [21:47:41] I think it's xcache then... [21:47:45] argggh [21:48:35] :( [21:49:52] brion !! Can I bug you a few minutes in private please ? :) [21:50:21] muinator: change it to 777 [21:51:03] you can try [21:51:10] wish me luck :) [21:51:14] ok , did it [21:51:30] but still cant see this fucking localsettings.php [21:51:49] muinator: now you need to run the install script [21:52:01] ok [21:52:12] i try it from the beginning again [21:52:12] (localsettings.php gets created after you do) [21:52:18] ok...... [21:52:24] just wait a minute [21:52:37] 15 previously passing test(s) now FAILING! :( [21:53:39] hmm that may be from some half-done code i've got in my tree [21:53:50] nope [21:53:51] hrmf [21:53:52] *brion stabs [21:54:54] Notice: Undefined property: Parser::$mDymRedirBeforeEdit in /Library/WebServer/Documents/trunk/extensions/DidYouMean/DidYouMean.php on line 303 [21:54:59] yeah just a broken damn extension [22:00:31] 03(mod) dsb: interwiki prefix missing on srv60 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13017 (10brion) [22:00:47] brion: thanks for your time brion :) [22:06:49] 03(mod) make #time work with pre-1970 dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11686 +comment (10brion) [22:06:50] 14(DUP) Dates in 19. Centruy does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13374 +comment (10brion) [22:08:07] brion: have you ever thought of setting up a special page redirect for [[Special:Signup]] or something so the register links can be displayed as internal links? [22:08:20] there is one [22:08:23] was recentl added [22:08:26] i forget what it is [22:08:29] 03brion * r32080 10/trunk/extensions/DidYouMean/DidYouMean.php: Make DidYouMean not kill the parser test framework... however it spews notice warnings and appends crap to output, breaking a lot of tests. [22:08:32] ah, cool [22:08:35] special:createaccount maybe? [22:08:38] *Skizzerz hasn't svn updated recently [22:08:41] *brion kicks CIA-44 [22:08:42] ow [22:08:46] yer kinda slow today cia [22:09:57] question, I'm restructuring my categories and I'm wondering if there is a way to add categories to pages using phpmyadmin? It would be so much faster than going through wiki to do it all. I've been able to change/delete categories but it doesn't actually edit the pages themselves, just what is displayed on said category page. [22:10:37] Skizzerz: there is [[Special:CreateAccount]] since a few weeks [22:10:43] Mediawiki is worth $ 15,227,950 !!! [22:10:46] Raymond_: k, thk [22:10:48] http://www.ohloh.net/projects/22 [22:10:50] *thx [22:11:33] munda: pywikipediabot has a category move mode, iirc [22:11:42] but don'Ät ask me details, i don'Ät use it [22:11:50] "very few source code comments"? [22:11:58] there's a comment above almost every function >_> [22:14:41] Skizzerz: looks like comments are only 11% of source code [22:14:50] 03(mod) Allow non-Arabic numerals in {{#expr:}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13379 (10brion) [22:15:13] which is more than plenty when you think of it... would you rathar have 90% code or 90% comments? [22:16:23] 90% comments [22:16:31] at work it's more like 90% comments [22:16:33] at least we'd know what the code does ;) [22:16:36] This is the error I'm getting on the mediawiki fresh install [22:16:39] and 12000% as documentation [22:16:39] [Mon Mar 17 17:15:59 2008] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] PHP Fatal error: Class 'DOMDocument' not found in /var/www/html/wiki/includes/Preprocessor_DOM.php on line 566 [22:17:00] I let you imagine how much doc i have to write for 300 lines of perl script :p [22:18:10] 03raymond * r32081 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Localisation updates German [22:20:35] 03(FIXED) Template parameters ignored during transclusion in special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12519 +comment (10brion) [22:22:16] 14(DUP) New action parameter that renders js/css pages via wiki syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13388 +comment (10brion) [22:22:16] 03(mod) Render wikilinks in site/user CSS/JS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10410 +comment (10brion) [22:22:50] identify [22:22:57] hello [22:23:01] hi [22:23:10] ... [22:23:54] 03(mod) Browser detection in wikibits.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13389 (10brion) [22:24:14] help [22:25:15] 03(NEW) ParserAfterTidy hook passes only one short line in $text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13408 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (Bob-wikimedia) [22:26:21] 03(mod) show changes from old revision makes diff from newest revision - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13394 (10brion) [22:32:29] okay I got it to work. [22:32:35] Had to go back to 1.11 [22:32:46] Now I have a question, how do I make a user an admin? [22:35:50] the upload warning that says It is recommended that files are no larger than 150 KB - what is the relevance of this? the only things i can think of is if the user's browser is slow and thinks it's a script hanging and the php upload limit size (though bad ideas they are, they're ideas =) [22:36:22] iam8up|lpy: not very relevant. i think it's pretty silly. you can adjust that limit in your localsettings file [22:36:47] hmm... I was looking at the user manual and it says to use Special:Userrights [22:36:53] when I tried that, I got 404 [22:37:08] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUploadSizeWarning [22:37:30] greenman: that's quite unlikely. enter it in the search box and hit enter. [22:37:51] greenman: if it tells you you don't have permission to use it, it's one thing. but you shouldn't get a 404 [22:38:02] iam8up|lpy: see the link above [22:39:16] ah [22:39:22] it had to be after the index.php [22:39:56] greenman: it's a wiki page... [22:40:09] what your url looks like depends on yopur setup [22:45:31] 14(INVALID) ParserAfterTidy hook passes only one short line in $text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13408 +comment (10brion) [22:49:32] Duesentrieb - much appreciated =) [22:53:12] 03raymond * r32082 10/trunk/extensions/PasswordReset/PasswordReset_body.php: [22:53:12] * Add a CSS id to the table [22:53:12] * Use proper XML function (where possible) [22:53:12] * Prettify for RTL wikis with classes from shared.css [22:54:30] Skizzerz, some parts of MW code are pretty badly undercommented. [22:54:59] You should at least have documentation for the general purpose of each function and a careful description of its parameters. [22:55:01] Which we mostly don't. [22:55:03] true [22:55:19] brion, I'm going to check in some form of the patch I wrote for bug 1212 sometime tonight, mkay? [22:59:14] 03(mod) ParserAfterTidy hook passes only one short line in $text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13408 (10Bob-wikimedia) [23:00:53] Simetrical: if it's a schema change, i'd rather see it first i think [23:00:58] hate to have to revert it immediately :D [23:01:05] brion, the schema change part is just table creation. [23:01:14] You have to run a maintenance script, but it doesn't have to be done immediately. [23:01:27] well if it's going to break when i svn up, i need to know about it [23:01:41] brion, so now you do. :) [23:01:59] 03(mod) New parser function / magic word, for "pretty-printed" numbers - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13025 (10Greg_L_at_Wikipedia) [23:06:42] Dang, Gmail is confusing responses to Tim's SUL pilot announcement on enwiki-l and wikitech-l. [23:07:14] So I get helpful technical questions mixed in with accusations that Tim is a communist for only giving it to admins. [23:09:05] re [23:10:12] if I make 2 spaces before the line it became a quote. How to make a quote fjr some text ? what tags I need at the begining and at the end ? [23:14:51] that's headin in the right direction eddy lol [23:14:58] oops sorry wrong window [23:15:57] can anyone help me with installation - I can't get the first page to load, comes up with a server error [23:19:36] Simetrical: regarding the email thing: it's not gmail's fault so much; David Gerard forwarded it to wikien-l with an "in-reply-to" header. And WJohnson is using AOL mail which doesn't include in-reply-to headers at all [23:19:49] mjltigger: what sort of error? [23:20:14] *Simetrical needs to read up some more on SMTP one of these days [23:20:54] the moral is that threading email is painful because there are so many broken mail programs [23:20:56] anyone? it is 500: Internal Server Error (Sorry, the page you requested is not currently available. This is because the server has encountered a problem is creating the page for you.) [23:21:16] mjltigger: ok, I see it. next step is to look at the server error log to see what it says [23:21:18] mjltigger, check server error logs. [23:21:26] ok [23:21:53] it is may well be a syntax error in a php file [23:22:13] [Mon Mar 17 19:39:24 2008] [error] [client 80.2.120.93] Premature end of script headers: /home/g15mjlt/public_html/wiki/mediawiki-1.12.0rc1/index.php [23:22:46] I haven't made any amendments to the php - was I supposed to? [23:22:47] 'premature end of script headers' tends to mean that PHP crashed [23:22:49] mjltigger: that probably means you have something in a php file that is getting sent to the webserver output, but it isn't a legal http header [23:23:36] mjltigger: can you run php on the file from the command line? [23:25:13] 03raymond * r32083 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialAllpages.php: [23:25:13] * Add a nice fieldset around the input form [23:25:13] * Found CSS classes for aligning in shared.css -> use them! [23:26:05] the command line on the server? I am a complete novice I'm afraid, I installed smf from a script and can do basic html and a tiny bit of java but learning on this... so do you mean the command line in the server or on my pc? [23:26:38] yes - do you know if you can ssh to the server? [23:27:28] don't think so.. it is a free hostijng thing I am using for a test bed.. [23:27:52] hi all, i'm migrating a media wiki install and the text table is ~400MB fails to import into MySQL on the new server with the following error: http://rafb.net/p/KckMJI77.html [23:28:20] no just checked and I can't ssh [23:28:29] mjltigger: just double checking that you installed it somehow, but you never got it to load? [23:28:33] any ideas how i might troubleshoot this? [23:29:26] I copied the folder from the download to the server and navigated to the folder in ie. it had a page that said configure first and when I clicked the link I got the error [23:30:02] as far as installed goes feel as though I missed a step in the user guide because it started off saying upload then it said navigate to where you installed it.. [23:30:48] mjltigger: does that 'configure first' page still appear? [23:31:26] not any more... [23:31:37] goes straight to the same error now [23:33:39] well, I think brion's suggestion that php is crashing is probably right, but I don't know how to debug it with only web browser access. [23:33:48] did you do the thing where you fix the permissions of the config directory? [23:34:24] yes and after it didn't work I set 777 on all the directories from the route down lol, just in case [23:34:37] shurik: you moving from one mysql version to a different one? [23:34:39] that would avoid any permissions errors [23:34:55] if going from newer to older you may have to be careful about your options to mysqldump when you create the dump [23:35:36] brion: doh, let's see [23:36:00] mjltigger: sorry, I don't have any other suggestions except to makea localsettings.php by hand and copy it into place. But that would mean you would need to run a script to create the database tables, which will be hard without shell access [23:36:22] brion: yeah, looks like it 4 on old, 5 on new [23:37:13] jeez, i'm glad i moved out of florida before the elections :) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7301958.stm [23:37:24] even without the hurricanes it's a disaster area ;) [23:37:27] brion: any ideas about which options i should use? [23:37:33] yeah that sounds hard, if php crashed presumably I can log a ticket with the host.. in termsof creating the tables by hand do you know of a database map I can use - it would take a while but I could create them manually in mysql [23:37:54] shurik: hopefully there's some compat options, i don't know offhand though... [23:38:25] brion: cool, thx for the tip! [23:38:43] --compatible=name Change the dump to be compatible with a given mode. By [23:38:43] ? [23:39:58] first i gots to figure out how to get to the commandline on this here windows box [23:40:08] or I can try the install straight on the main site but I was testing it with smf and I wanted to do it first make sure it doesn't crash smf during install [23:40:47] shurik: click start, click run, type cmd.exe [23:42:49] Duesentrieb: that i know [23:44:15] but?