[00:00:00] xD [00:00:14] or maybe some coffee [00:00:15] NicDumZ: I've still yer-old bugs waiting [00:00:19] year* [00:00:44] 03dale * r32145 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (6 files in 2 dirs): maintance updates [00:00:50] AzaTht: waiting... for me ? :s [00:00:53] :-þ [00:01:11] *MrZ-man puts https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9862 on brion's list [00:01:45] !b 4484 | NicDumZ [00:01:45] --mwbot-- NicDumZ: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4484 [00:02:15] brion: If I wanna be part of Gsoc for mediawiki, 'think I should fill in a bugzilla bug report first ? :þ [00:02:17] AzaTht: Bug 1 is still open [00:03:29] MrZ-man: bug 57 also [00:04:08] 03brion * r32146 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/AjaxFunctions.php): * (bug 12801) Fix link in subtitle message in AJAX search [00:04:24] yeah and bug 526 resolution is much hated :þ [00:04:25] 03(FIXED) $1 paramter isn't replaced correctly in 'searchsubtitle' message with AjaxSearch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12801 +comment (10brion) [00:04:43] wait. not 526 :( [00:05:16] NicDumZ: don't hurt :D [00:09:11] 03brion * r32147 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/ProtectionForm.php): [00:09:11] * (bug 13428) Fix regression in protection form layout HTML validity [00:09:11] a ; in place of a . there... [00:09:30] 03(FIXED) Badly formed xhtml on protection page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13428 +comment (10brion) [00:11:18] 03(WONTFIX) Search result page numbers should be rounded to nearest integer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13297 +comment (10brion) [00:13:42] hmm, bugzilla wont load [00:13:55] 14(DUP) New feature - search field auto-complete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12412 +comment (10brion) [00:13:56] 03(mod) Suggestion searching - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7288 +comment (10brion) [00:14:12] Chari2: Brion must be using it all [00:14:17] hehe [00:14:22] xD [00:14:27] brion you hog [00:17:43] lol. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=fish&fulltext=Search&offset=120&limit=7 [00:19:00] what has science done [00:19:09] Simetrical: wtf [00:20:12] brion, so you haven't gotten around to my commit yet, I guess, or it was just so perfect there were no changes to make? :) [00:20:43] i've been putting off reviewing it ;) [00:21:54] *Simetrical has to frantically review every commit he sees by brion until it's approved :( [00:22:37] 14(WFM) AJAX search should unescape entities in search string - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9045 +comment (10brion) [00:23:30] brion, if we actually had a review system where I could ask for review before committing and expect it to happen within two months, I wouldn't have to commit stuff before it gets reviewd. [00:23:30] ed. [00:23:43] *Simetrical envies the Mozilla people with their spiffy and highly functional review/superreview system [00:24:30] 03(mod) Search field fails when rewrite rules don' t pass through parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12838 summary; +comment (10brion) [00:24:34] *sniff* [00:24:44] Simetrical: that's one of the things i'd like us to start doing [00:25:01] having a nice proper review queue and making sure people get their responses in a timely fashion [00:25:38] brion, could we have that cool review+ thing that Mozilla has? [00:25:46] It's so efficient-looking. [00:25:51] And apparently they actually use it before every commit! [00:25:55] *Simetrical gasps [00:28:40] 14(INVALID) FileSearchIndexer.php code review - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12269 +comment (10brion) [00:30:33] blah, where is splarka when you need to bop him [00:30:40] Question on templates and categories. Can mediawiki handle templates that create category names? For example {{example | 1953}} --> template:Example --> [[Category:List of my pages (1953)]] [00:30:46] 14(WFM) Searching "music of" yields no results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12081 +comment (10brion) [00:31:09] FT2: yes. [00:31:29] what about: {{example | 1953}} --> template:Example --> [[Category:List of my pages| {{PAGENAME}} (1953)]] [00:31:37] FT2, yes. [00:31:44] !tias [00:31:44] --mwbot-- Try it and see. You learn much more by experimentation than by asking without having even tried. [00:31:48] I did [00:31:55] its not listing as expected [00:32:25] FT2: that syntax only changes the sort key, not the title that is hown in the category [00:32:47] (there's now way to do that. I'd like an option for showing the sort key. but it doesn't exits) [00:33:39] ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [00:33:59] ok [00:34:19] Its always still listed as its formal artiocle name then. [00:34:27] yes. [00:34:27] I wasnt sure if there was a way to override that [00:34:43] Not at present. [00:34:46] You can categorize redirects, though. [00:34:48] this has been bothering me for years, but it is still the case :P [00:34:55] nodz [00:35:02] 03brion * r32148 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SpecialSearch.php): * (bug 9403) Sanitize newlines from search term input [00:35:46] 03(FIXED) Special:Search accepts and reprints queries containing newlines, arbitrary wikitext, and other garbage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9403 +comment (10brion) [00:39:11] brion, aw, I liked my tinyurl. http://tinyurl.com/2exfw5 [00:39:14] 04(REOPENED) Searches less than 4 characters long don't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7726 +comment (10brion) [00:39:35] Actually, that will still work, I guess. [00:39:40] That's good. :) [00:41:06] ok i'm gonna head home and get some dinner [00:41:17] then maybe do more code review, or sleep, or.... somethin [00:43:11] is there a way to use a conditional inside a template? [00:43:25] alternately, can i transclude a certain part of an article? [00:44:18] b0lt: parserfunctions can be used to do conditionals [00:44:26] !parserfunctions | b0lt [00:44:26] --mwbot-- b0lt: "Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!). For help using parser functions, please see . For details about the extension, see . [00:44:51] including parts of pages isn't possible per default, but i think there's an extension for it, called "section inclusion" or something [00:45:10] thanks [00:45:24] !lst [00:45:24] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "lst". [00:45:32] "Labeled Section Transclusion" is the name. [00:45:46] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Labeled_Section_Transclusion [00:45:47] yeah [00:46:02] !lst is http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Labeled_Section_Transclusion [00:46:02] --mwbot-- Successfully added keyword: lst [00:49:29] 03rainman * r32149 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/ (49 files in 18 dirs): (log message trimmed) [00:49:29] Query parser:: [00:49:29] * wildcards/fuzzy can now be within phrases [00:49:29] Daemon: [00:49:29] * compatiblity modes for previous versions (version param) [00:49:30] * warmup for new index types [00:49:32] * related search can now be distributed [00:54:56] 03aaron * r32150 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.php): Fix old stable version viewer so it actually works ;) [00:58:46] is there any way to input a category to a template and have it format the members of that category and return them? [00:59:26] b0lt, not without using an extension. [00:59:35] I think DPL has something like that, although maybe not formatting. [00:59:36] !dpl [00:59:36] --mwbot-- The DynamicPageList (DPL) extension outputs reports based on criteria given in a special tag. For more information, see and . [01:00:59] thanks [01:02:34] Simetrical, that's exactly what i need :D [01:06:40] hi, trying to get LDAP authentication working, it's doing an anonymous bind, but I can't see what the setting is to preven that [01:34:04] is there a way to find out where a template was called from? [01:35:31] Was, or is? [01:36:03] hm? [01:36:55] I know you can find where it is called from by looking at Special:Whatlinkshere [01:37:06] say [01:37:12] i have a template Template:Bar [01:37:24] in article Foo, i have {{Bar}} [01:37:39] in Template:Bar, can i have something that says Foo when it's called from Foo? [01:38:58] {{PAGENAME}}? [01:39:35] ooh, thanks [01:44:23] 03aaron * r32151 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (3 files): Remove [] from two messages [01:44:41] hmm [01:44:57] can i hide some text but still have it be parsed? [01:56:12] ? [02:00:42] i wanted to hide text from the page (so i can use LST). i just used css and classed it as hiddenStructure [02:02:17] 03(NEW) Separate date and time in message sp-newimages-showfrom - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13429 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [02:02:44] is there a way I can 'try out' this branch via SVN and change it back if it doesnt work? http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/ [02:03:32] I really really really really need to get the edit functionality in the API working again. [02:16:08] AphelionZ: Erm ... check it out and run it? [02:16:24] amidaniel: I am a svn noob basically [02:16:55] AphelionZ: svn co http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone [02:17:42] how exactly do i use conditionals in mediawiki? given a certain string (1 or 0) returned by another parser function, how do i display two different strings? [02:17:58] !parserfunctions | b0lt [02:17:58] --mwbot-- b0lt: "Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!). For help using parser functions, please see . For details about the extension, see . [02:18:36] do i have to make my own parser function? [02:18:40] {{#ifeq:some string|1|display if '1'|display if '2'}} [02:18:56] no, just install that extension linked at the bottom and use #ifeq or #switch [02:18:59] s/2/0 [02:18:59] ah [02:19:15] i didn't see that part [02:19:16] thanks [02:30:23] is there any way to use the external link syntax for a non http url? [02:30:45] Yes, it's the same syntax [02:30:59] e.g., [ftp://example.com ftp site] [02:31:15] even for a something like mailto? [02:31:28] er [02:31:30] something like mailto [02:31:43] yes [02:31:51] should work [02:31:56] oh [02:31:58] space in it [02:32:11] all that's different is the icon displayed to the right of the link (if your browser supports that) [02:34:20] will that work for AIM links? [02:34:27] e.g. [aim:goim?screenname=SA+b0lt Yes] [02:34:52] it doesn't seem to work for me [02:35:00] Not all protocols are supported [02:35:04] is there an alternative? [02:35:08] Ack... brion went home when I left work... bah... [02:35:09] i guess i could use a href [02:35:26] b0lt, there is an extension. [02:41:29] b0lt: you could add it to the list of supported protocols, I believe it's a wg variable that controls that [02:45:45] where are most of the special pages in the /includes/ folder... included from? [02:46:13] WebStart, I beliebe [02:46:15] believe* [02:46:19] one way or another [02:46:37] Or to give you a really jackass answer, index.php :) [02:47:02] hi [02:47:08] amidaniel: nah, the REAL jackass answer would be "the wiki" [02:47:17] hi Fr [02:47:20] amidaniel: be a jackass all you want... ive been asking dumb questions in here for at least a year now [02:47:27] hehe [02:47:38] hi guys, i have a maybe stupid question [02:47:58] i cannot open the control panel in my mediawiki [02:47:59] That's what we specialize in :) [02:48:12] Control panel? What control panel? [02:48:19] i cannot find it in my toolbox [02:48:26] because it doesn't exist :) [02:48:30] O_O [02:48:32] bingo [02:48:36] Fr: I have a feeling it dosnt exist [02:48:39] meh [02:48:41] too slow^^^ [02:48:51] Fr: All mediawiki configuration is done by editing LocalSettings.php [02:48:56] !localsettings | Fr [02:48:56] --mwbot-- Fr: All configuration is done in LocalSettings.php (near the end of the file). Editing other files means modifying the software. Default settings are not in LocalSettings.php, you can look in DefaultSettings.php. See , , [02:49:15] good [02:49:45] Skizzerz, i can't seem to find it [02:49:48] so...there is a way to make a "private wiki"? [02:50:15] like this for instance.. makes me feel absolutely idiotic. I svn co'd the vodafone branch, and there are files, crucial files that aren't getting taken out, like the SpecialEditTest.php page that I need to well.. test the editing [02:50:18] ps i'm sorry for my bad english [02:50:19] oh nevermind [02:50:20] i see it [02:50:54] Fr: no [02:51:05] !access | Fr [02:51:05] --mwbot-- Fr: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [02:51:07] you can make the wiki in a hard to find place, but not private [02:51:15] I don't think, anyway :s [02:51:21] Fr: the wiki is basically all or nothing [02:51:33] you can't set certain pages as private and others as public [02:53:17] i don't want to set certain pages as private and others as public... [02:53:29] Fr, htaccess [02:53:30] i need to set all pages as private [02:53:40] ^^ htaccess [02:53:48] make an .htaccess file in your wiki root directory and configure a username/password [02:53:58] how do i urlencode a string while making sure space is coded as '%20' and not '+' [02:54:17] umh...good idea thanks [02:54:30] b0lt: {{urlencode: should do that. If not try urlencodee [02:55:14] amidaniel, it doesn't, and i don't seem to have urlencodee [03:00:41] check this out - this is vodafone's Special:EditTest page which is included in /includes/ http://pastebin.ca/948425 [03:01:13] but whenever I go to Special:EditTest, i just get an error... i found the massive list of includes in AutoLoader.php and added it in but it still didn't work [03:07:03] yeah i really don't even think I'm downloading the vodafone branch :-/ [03:07:28] I just tried api.php?action=edit and im still getting the "unknown_action: Unrecognised value for parameter 'action'" error [03:08:46] im going to delete all the files and re-checkout the vodafone stuff... [03:10:44] 03tstarling * r32152 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialPreferences.php: Fixed debugging code left in (since r24477) [03:14:55] hehe that seemed to do the trick [04:38:38] <_pepo_> Hi friends [04:41:07] <_pepo_> How do I upload my images to use them in my wikipedia? I wanna use the images just in my LAN (without Internet) and without commons.wikimedia.org [04:53:32] just go to Image:yourspecialimage.whatever on your wiki and upload it [04:53:43] need to enable uploads first [04:53:53] that too [05:10:51] <_pepo_> I dont understand ... I've donwloaded the wikipedia dump file ... then I insert this file in my database ... all the (text in the) pages looks fine, but the links of images dont show me anything (I know that the images cant be downloaded) ... but How do I use my own images in that pages? [05:12:06] <_pepo_> I've configured $wgEnableUploads = true; in LocalSettings.php too [05:48:36] if you opened a beer over 24 hours ago, but didn't drink any of it, would you put it in the refridgerator to re-chill so you could drink it? [05:48:51] only if you like flat beer [05:57:32] Zach: heh, I agree with flyingparchment. [05:57:41] I'd have to be pretty desperate to do that [05:57:58] i'd hate to waste a whole damn beer though [05:58:10] meh. Beer is cheap [05:59:01] i'm frugal. [06:01:05] mmm... soda... [06:23:05] 03(mod) feature request: indented sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13425 (10sco_scam) [06:27:40] hi guys... is there a package that I can install into my intranet wiki that serves as a reader/editor instruction? I know that there are the online -instructions but I want to have those on my own server. [06:33:53] 03raymond * r32153 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialMIMEsearch.php: [06:33:54] * Add a nice fieldset around the input form [06:33:54] * Fix double escaping [06:36:08] 03raymond * r32154 10/branches/REL1_12/phase3/includes/SpecialMIMEsearch.php: Partially merge of r32153: fix double escaping [07:34:35] what is the best way to maintain several (like 10) different installations of mediawiki? [07:34:51] when you consider updates, extensions, and new installes [07:35:00] does everything have to be done one at a time? [07:35:57] The best option is to have one shared copy of the files. [07:36:15] for every installation? [07:36:48] If possible, avoid multiple installations. [07:36:54] how do you do that? [07:37:07] You have all the databases point to the same files. [07:37:29] !wikifarm [07:37:29] --mwbot-- To run multiple wikis, you do not need anything more than to run one wiki. You simply install them in different folders, and if possible using seperate databases. If you only have one database, simply use a different table prefix. For more advanced setups, see [07:37:51] great, thanks a lot! [07:47:29] hi guys... is there a package that I can install into my intranet wiki that serves as a reader/editor instruction? I know that there are the online -instructions but I want to have those on my own server. [08:00:07] <_wooz> lo [08:14:18] 03raymond * r32155 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUserrights.php: [08:14:18] * Add some CSS ids to forms and tables [08:14:18] * Use proper XML functions [08:14:18] * Fix double escaping [08:14:18] * Fix indention [08:25:25] I can't rememember if there was any schema difference between 1.12rc1, and the current trunk... [08:28:00] Nadir_Seen_Fire: yes. there is a schema change in trunk [08:29:30] Damn... I was hoping to be able to run a rc1.12 and trunk off the same database instance so I would be sure that the extensions I'm being contracted to make are compatible with both the version of MW they are using, and forward compatible with trunk. [08:31:46] Nadir_Seen_Fire: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-cvs/2008-March/053183.html [08:34:13] aaaarrrgggg.... Damn computer... It won't let me highlight the link to copy it, and my url handler has been broken forever... [08:34:43] Finally... [08:35:58] Mkay... which do you suggest... Run the dual set on rc1.12's schema, or on 1.13's schema? [09:00:31] 03nikerabbit * r32156 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (README TranslatePage.php TranslateUtils.php): [09:00:31] * untranslated is now the default task [09:00:31] * truncate very long message names in table view [09:03:42] 03siebrand * r32157 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (8 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-03-19 09:59 CET) [09:07:36] 03siebrand * r32158 10/trunk/extensions/ (14 files in 13 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-03-19 09:59 CET) [09:14:43] 03siebrand * r32159 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesBat_smg.php: [09:14:43] * update namespaces from Wikipedia -> Project [09:14:43] * remove messages referencing Wikipedia/Wikimedia [09:16:00] 03(NEW) populateCategory does not work with Postgres - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13430 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (overlordq) [09:16:02] 03(mod) PostgreSQL support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384 (10overlordq) [09:16:57] am i able to look up somewhere how many pages starting with mediawiki:sidebar/ i have? [09:17:03] i really should be doing something then filing WP bugs at 4am lol [09:18:06] mondschein: [[Special:PrefixIndex]] [09:18:17] hi, which file processes the registration? [09:20:06] how to do indexing in mediawiki [09:20:24] indexing? [09:21:53] meaning doing indexing in internal wiki links [09:22:19] arraging interlinks in alphabetical order [09:24:06] subhan: to list pages alphabetically, use a category [09:24:36] alternatively, there is a java script feature to make tables sortablöe [09:25:33] the dynamic page list is another way to list pages [09:25:58] they might mean, what indexes the alpahbetical list in prefixindex/categories, etc [09:26:00] it's not strictly alphabetical though is it? [09:26:24] goes by unicode value (or ascii) ? [09:26:33] so the real answer is: fix mediawiki's almost non-existent collation support [09:26:55] it's generally a binary sort of the UTF-8 data, I think [09:27:13] grammar, plural, formatnum, need a new brother? alphabetize? [09:27:31] someone did convert his mediawiki tables to proper collations on mailinglists after few pointers [09:27:36] at least didn't complain about failed experiment [09:27:36] Splarka: how would that help in category listings? [09:27:37] OverlordQ: thx found what i was looking for :) [09:27:52] dues: maybe not much, but for everything else... ? [09:27:58] domas: try a sortkey in gothic [09:28:09] or it could simply go by content language when generating them [09:28:21] Splarka: if the sorting is done in php, it's fine [09:28:27] but large lists are sorted in the db [09:28:28] Duesentrieb: why the heck should ANYONE care about gothic? [09:28:32] and i have no idea how to get that right [09:29:00] domas: i don't know, but it's used in interwiki links at least. happened to me. [09:29:00] poo [09:29:46] domas: also, gothis isn't the *only* thing that uses four byte utf-8 codes - it's just the first i came across [09:43:00] 03(mod) AntiSpoof should return more than one result - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12232 +comment (10stwalkerster) [09:43:32] can the insert function do multi tables insert, or do i have to do one for each table? [09:52:52] Duesentrieb: are we talking wikimedia sites, or generic wikis? [09:53:27] i was talking about Getting It Right :) [09:53:42] but the installer already has the "experimental utf-8" option [09:53:43] you were talking crap [09:53:50] o_O [09:53:53] huh? [09:54:02] your 'getting it right' thing. [09:54:28] it's crap to point out that there are problems with using utf-8 collations? [09:54:39] because 4-byte codes *are* used by some? [09:54:54] "gothic" bla bla [09:55:05] guess how many gothic support cases mysql gets daily [09:55:09] oh well, yearly [09:55:14] oh well, in whole history [09:56:10] goths screwing up the database? [09:56:13] well, the number of bug reports and discussions about problems with not supporting full utf-8/unicode is clearly > 0 [09:56:24] yeah, that bug was opened by brion [09:56:35] because he needs gothic support :) [09:56:41] so? does that make it invalid? [09:56:48] or, in your words, crap? [09:57:22] crap was just to show that "getting it right" isn't something entirely aligned with your POV [09:57:38] if people want to use proper unicode collation ordering [09:57:46] getting it right is defined by inplementing the damn spec! [09:57:49] someone comes up and says "but you won't have gothic or some special asian chars" [09:57:53] BMP is implemented [09:58:06] thats the spec too [09:58:22] now, if you actually went into charsets and collations [09:58:28] 03tstarling * r32160 10/trunk/extensions/Cite/Cite.i18n.php: XHTML IDs starting with underscores are invalid. [09:58:30] you'd realize that specs fall apart when they hit linguistic specs [09:58:56] i can live with less-tha-perfect collations [09:59:03] i can't live with db-queries dying on me. [09:59:20] you can filter out invalid data :) [09:59:36] anyway, i was going to say that most peole can just use the utf-8 option in the installer. and if they do, having a choice of collations, perhaps based on the content language, would be nice [09:59:49] yes [09:59:56] and collaction converters [10:00:00] and what else. [10:00:09] that's "getting it done", not "getting it right", tough [10:00:15] which is perfectly valid. [10:00:36] but please aknowledge that complaining about missing support for full unicode is valid too. [10:00:47] oh sure [10:00:58] domas: Unicode hasn't been the BMP since 1992 IIRC [10:01:08] getting it right would be revisiting every language's grammar [10:01:21] and making it aligned with unicode specs. [10:01:22] But unlike Sun I suppose MySQL knew this when they implemented it [10:01:25] Or well, they're they same now:) [10:01:53] domas: Every language's grammar? Isn't this just collation in mysql? [10:02:19] avar: digraphs and such. [10:02:34] avar: in many languages digraphs are treated as standalone chars [10:02:51] but not every case of two letters together is a digraph [10:03:06] which means you have multiple paths in search trees to find same string [10:03:07] etc [10:03:17] Duesentrieb: btw, http://forge.mysql.com/worklog/task.php?id=1213 :) [10:04:30] domas: so, that's "crap"? [10:04:39] does anybody know how the id in php of the "show diffrence" button is? -->document.getElementById('ID').style.visibility or where i possibly find a solution? [10:04:54] Duesentrieb: 'crap' is "getting it right" pov [10:05:22] a) absolute correctness is impossible [10:05:46] b) more you work on absolute things, less time you spend on important ones [10:05:54] mondschein: you mean the submit input on action=history? [10:06:33] c) gg 4-byte utf performance :) [10:06:41] and for what, gothic? :) [10:07:02] domas: my "pov" is: when calligng something utf-8, make sure it can handle utf-8, and not some subset of it. sure, nothing is bug free. and sure, sometimes it's not feasable to the the theoreticaly right thing. but it should still be the *goal*. i.e. Getting It Right. [10:07:07] splarka:ah no...if i edit a page underneath the edit box there are 3 buttons, save show preview and show changes (sorry) [10:07:36] anyway, i need to get back to my thesis. have fun. [10:07:42] Duesentrieb: thats semantics. go, file a bug report, tell that utf8 charset has to be renamed to utf8_bmp :) [10:08:15] does anybody know how the id in php of the "show changes" button is? -->document.getElementById('ID').style.visibility or where i possibly find a solution? [10:08:25] no it's the right question :) [10:08:30] now i mean [10:08:45] view the page source [10:08:55] domas: that semantics is called rfc3629. and renaming it now would cause more trouble than it would do good, I'm aware of that. [10:09:16] again, i was talking about Retting It Right [10:09:22] not Dealing With Legacy Shit [10:09:37] Duesentrieb: you seem to have spent too much time in academia [10:10:00] Duesentrieb: there people can spend centuries working on Right things [10:10:09] you are misunderstanding. [10:10:27] Duesentrieb: ok, let's say it would be better call the charset utf8_bmp [10:10:29] document.getElementById('wpDiff').style.visibility = 'hidden'; [10:10:46] "charset" is a silly term. but anyway [10:10:52] splarka: i named it like in the page source but it doesn't work...i dunno why...the things is: i#m working with spellcheck extension (no support anymore somehow) and when the spellchecker ckecks the text the buttons save and show preview disappear...so did what you just wrote...but it's stil visible :( [10:10:53] i'm not saying gettting it right should be the only thing we work on [10:10:58] charmap [10:11:01] getting it done is often more important [10:11:05] or at least, more urgent [10:11:08] :) [10:11:12] Bah... I wish showErrorPage had an option for telling it what page to list as the returnto link [10:11:14] but we shouldn't lose sight of what's the right thing to do [10:11:28] Duesentrieb: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=32152 [10:11:38] mondschein: well, maybe they used .style.display instead of .style.visibility, but is this spell checker javascript or php ? [10:12:16] Nadir: heh, you can use #switch and some magic words to have some control over it... [10:12:18] php and i just copied the terms with wpsave and chaged wpsave into wpDiff [10:12:24] TimStarling: uh... was that me? if so, it must have been there for a looooong time... [10:12:53] like 7 months and 2 weeks? [10:12:53] Duesentrieb: right thing would be closing gothic sites, first of all :) [10:12:59] i don't get it... :( [10:13:11] 03(mod) Should be able to remove articles from regular watchlist view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=424 (10nospam) [10:14:15] Nadir_Seen_Fire: http://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Returnto&diff=prev&oldid=31150 [10:14:26] 03huji * r32161 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: * Adding/updating Persian translations [10:14:30] Bah... [10:14:38] *Splarka snickers [10:15:22] *Splarka wonders again why that message needs raw html, but parses magic words [10:15:31] bizarro universe [10:21:58] 03huji * r32162 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (bug 13429) Separate date and time in message sp-newimages-showfrom [10:22:14] 03(FIXED) Separate date and time in message sp-newimages-showfrom - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13429 +comment (10huji.huji) [10:28:36] A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: [10:28:43] UPDATE `category` SET cat_pages = cat_pages + 1 WHERE 0 [10:29:24] you know, that's a really expensive and slow way to do nothing [10:29:38] ;-) [10:30:22] heh... [10:30:37] ^_^ Just don't let the SQL Injectors know that... rofl [10:31:39] who wrote this code? [10:34:47] mmmm... schema changes... [10:39:30] 03(mod) Allow non-Arabic numerals in {{#expr:}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13379 (10huji.huji) [10:42:10] hi, why would I receive the following error: "Title::loadRestrictions". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'wikidb.page_restrictions' doesn't exist (localhost)". [10:42:34] because you didn't upgrade your schema [10:43:24] it was working a while back, just isn't today. Here's my SQL tables within the wikdb: http://rafb.net/p/yx06nM95.html [10:44:47] hi! i got problems installing mediawiki. troubleshoot is: Fatal: mbstring.func_overload is active! This option causes errors and may corrupt data unpredictably; you cannot install or use MediaWiki unless this option is disabled. can you help me? [10:45:14] german: disable that option then. [10:45:34] you know how to? [10:46:10] http://de.php.net/manual/de/ref.mbstring.php#mbstring.overload [10:46:27] mbstring.func_overload=0 needs to be set in php.ini [10:46:33] talk to your hosting people [10:46:55] danke, dsentrieb! [10:47:06] hm, setting it in .htaccess might work too. you can do that yourself [10:47:19] i could never get the syntax streight for that though [10:47:19] okay [10:48:08] So, how do I upgrade my scheme to resolve the above problem? [10:48:10] wo knnte ich denn die einstellung fr die htaccess nachlesen, dsentrieb? [10:48:37] german: http://de.php.net/manual/de/ [10:49:49] ich versuchs, falls es nicht klappt, wrd ich spter nochmal fragen, ok? danke derweil [10:50:27] german: php_flag mbstring.func_overload off [10:50:29] glaube ich [10:50:32] hab's nicht probiert [10:51:03] Do I need to speak German to receive assistance? [10:51:39] juc00: no, actually, it tends to not get you assistance. [10:51:53] juc00: but you have been told what the problem is. the code expects a table that is not there. [10:52:20] juc00: so either it magically disappeard (that would be bad, i guess), or you (or someone?) updated the code without updating the database. [10:52:24] Why would the table have dissapeared though? If someone provides me a description of the table, i'll recreate myself I guess.. [10:52:25] so, run the update script. [10:52:44] running the update script shouldcreate the missing table, and even fill it [10:53:01] all tables are described in maintenance/tables.sql [10:53:05] oh, ok. Thank you. Where is the update script? [10:53:27] the updater is in maintenance/update.php (hard to guess, i know). [10:53:52] oh, always make a backup before messing around [10:53:55] alwayw [10:53:57] !backup [10:53:57] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki [10:53:59] !update [10:53:59] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [10:57:14] I wish I had that luxury [10:58:35] that worked, thanks alot guys. [11:12:31] hi dsentrieb! i copied the line "php_flag mbstring.func_overload off" to my htaccess file but it doesn't work. do i have to add a command before that line or anything else to make it work? thx [11:13:19] the troubleshoot is Der Server hat einen Fehler in einem Programm oder in Konfigurationsdateien entdeckt [11:19:14] 03tstarling * r32163 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (Article.php Database.php): Fixed no-op update query in common code path [11:23:17] 03huji * r32164 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [11:23:17] (bug 13137) Bots to edit protected pages [11:23:17] For the record: A previous effort to fix this (r31247) failed (r31462) [11:23:33] ialex: are you there? [11:23:57] Hojjat: yes [11:24:03] see the patch I just aplied [11:24:14] a tiny fix to the whole problem of 'editprotected' [11:25:06] 03(mod) Bots to edit protected pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13137 (10huji.huji) [11:25:08] ialex: it was easier than I thoguht! [11:25:31] :) [11:25:44] I'm going to update the MediaWiki.org subpage [11:26:01] 03(FIXED) Bots to edit protected pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13137 (10huji.huji) [11:27:06] dsentrieb: can you help me with htaccess configuration. i'll restart my system and be right back. thx [11:31:15] Hojjat: or maybe as a single "if" line : '' != $right && !$user->isAllowed( $right ) && ( $action != 'edit' || !$user->isAllowed( 'editprotected' ) || $this->mCascadeRestriction ) [11:31:50] I made it separated for the sake of documenation, because this is the only part in the whole code where 'editprotected' apears [11:32:09] I wanted it to be easy to understand for everyone [11:33:09] ialex: now, my next mission is this one: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8440 [11:36:18] 03rotem * r32165 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update. [11:40:14] Duesentrieb: have time? [11:56:36] hi dsentrieb, i'm back, are you there? [12:01:43] @all: can anyone help me with the troubleshoot "Fatal: mbstring.func_overload is active" at mediawiki setup? i've tried to write "php_value mbstring.func_overload off" in the htaccess-file but it caused a server troble shoot. can i do anything else in the htaccess-file or do i need to edit php.ini. i don't think i have access to that file, because i've only a webspace account on a shared server. if i would have access to php.ini, where can i f [12:04:56] german: you don't have aqccess to php.ini on a shared host. if apache doesn't like that setting in hatacces, i don't know why - maybe it's forbidden, or you need to set it to 0 instwad of off, or something. but this is not a mediawiki priblem. it's a php/apache configuration issue. try #php, or ask your hosting service to assist you in fixing the problem. [12:16:13] thx dsentrieb [12:19:46] 03huji * r32166 10/trunk/extensions/Gadgets/Gadgets.i18n.php: * Adding/updating Persian translations [12:27:42] hi there [12:27:42] right alecs [12:27:53] there is a plugin on wikimedia to allow me to see who is registering or not ? [12:27:57] hallo dsentrieb, hast du noch andere ideen, wo ich infos zur htaccess-konfiguration finden kann? hab schon zigfach gegooglet, aber nix gefunden. und im php channel haben sie mich zurck an mediawiki verwiesen [12:29:03] alecs: please explain what you are trying to do. Do you want to track IPs visiting your site, to see if they register or not ? [12:29:19] no [12:29:35] for example ... you register to my wiki ... [12:29:57] and i don't want to let you post ... [12:30:16] i mean kinda user activation [12:30:58] 03(mod) search for images/files by hash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1459 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [12:32:55] alecs: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount, I guess. [12:33:05] right [12:33:10] german: wenn die dich hierher verweisen haben, frag halt, wieso die meinen dass wir was über die mb_string einstellung wissen sollen. die htaccess-konfiguration gehärt zu mod_php. die einzlenen einstellungen sind im php handbuch beschreiben. [12:33:10] does anybody know, where on the web i can find detailed data about htaccess - so i can edit the htaccess file to set mbstring.func_overload inactive and make mediawiki run? [12:33:27] ok [12:33:34] german: aber nochmal: sprich mit deinem hosting service. die sollen dir da helfen. das ist ja such deren bekloppte voreinstellung. [12:34:01] das problem ist, dass es kein kommerzieller provider, sondern ein uni-rechenzentrum ist [12:34:06] german: htaccess im allgemeinen ist in der apache documentation beschreiben - aber die konfiguration des phpmodules für apache eher nicht [12:34:18] dann frag halt den zuständigen admin [12:35:07] Do I need to do any changes to my Mediawiki installation if I move it from filesystem path /www/virtualhost/wiki to /www/htdocs/wiki ? [12:35:32] ja, aber da kommt man nicht weit. bei einem kommerziellen anbieter ist man kunde und knig, aber an der behrdennlichen uni ist man ein antragsteller [12:36:02] mboman: update your LocalSettings.php [12:36:17] german: rechenzentrum ist doof, in den einzelnen abteilungen geht das normalerweise recht flott. [12:36:57] mboman: if only the filesystem path changes, and you have properly used $IP for all dir settings, then it should just work. [12:37:09] jlerner: that shouldn't even be neccessary [12:37:37] but yes, if some directories were defined absolute, you have to change them accoringly. [12:38:05] $IP = dirname( __FILE__ ); <--- that detects the installation path [12:38:16] Duesentrieb: yes, no hardcoded paths in the config files [12:38:22] so if $IP uis used everywhere, everything will work fine [12:38:33] ah yes [12:39:25] dsentrieb: ich bin am verzweifeln, weil ich im rechenzentrum niemanden ans rohr krieg und ich im php handbuch nur bahnhof verstehe. hast du noch einen tipp? [12:39:50] nein, keine ahnung. [12:40:06] ich hab dir gesagt welche einstellung das ist (naja, das steht ja scoin in der fehlermeldung) [12:40:16] und ich hab dir so gut ich weiß gesagt wo man das ändert. [12:40:23] mit mehr kann ich nicht dienen. [12:40:30] alaska [12:40:36] thx [12:43:13] 03ialex * r32167 10/trunk/phase3/redirect.php: In continuation of r23243: is already created by Setup.php, it don't need to set twice. [12:45:45] Hello? [12:46:01] stefan_L [12:48:25] stefan_L: you have a question ? [12:48:58] Ahh, cool - its my first time using this IRC. [12:49:28] Yes. I think i have more than one question. [12:50:09] Is there a way to rename articles and automatically change all corresponding link names? [12:51:37] not with MediaWiki itself but there are some scripts to do this [12:52:01] do you know some? [12:54:37] there is pywikipediabot or AWB [12:54:52] for the most used scripts [12:55:26] 03greg * r32168 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/tables.sql: No need for (1), keep tinyint consistent with the other booleans. [12:58:02] 03(ASSIGNED) search for images/files by hash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1459 (10raimond.spekking) [12:59:44] thanks ialex. will try. Maybe you know an extension for evaluating articles. Like 'excellent articles' [13:01:08] Stefan_L: as Wikipedia does ? [13:01:37] 03greg * r32169 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/parserTests.inc: Add category table. [13:02:16] 03greg * r32170 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/postgres/compare_schemas.pl: Take out "bools" section: we're just using smallints now [13:02:53] yes, excatly like wikipedia [13:03:01] 03greg * r32171 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Add 'category' table to Postgres schema. [13:05:02] to dsentrieb: danke nochmals, ich erwarte bald antwort vom rechenzentrum, bei dem ich jetzt einen sehr komptenten mann erreicht hab - hoffentlich klappt alles [13:05:59] to all: is it possible to get to this chat by webbrowser? or do everyone need to install irc software for it? [13:06:28] 03greg * r32172 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/populateCategory.inc: Typo. [13:07:27] Stefan_L: it is not an extension, but some tools built by Wikipedia contributors [13:08:14] i think of the web applet to freenode irc, like it is used on http://wikipedia-irc.cruxwan.de/Chat.html - can i take it and modify it to enter this chatroom? how? thx [13:10:33] ialex: Do you know any documentation how i can implement evaluation availability to my installation of mediawiki? [13:10:57] Stefan_L: not really [13:11:04] stupid question: does API support localized output? [13:11:08] or is it always in English? [13:11:27] ..... forget it [13:11:29] :D [13:11:31] i have no idea how i could to that :-( [13:12:49] 03(mod) Use a dedicated interface for adding interwiki/category links, not wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167 +comment (10bugs) [13:15:21] 03greg * r32173 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Category.php: Use $db->conditional() instead of non-standard IF(). Fixes bug 13430. [13:15:25] ialex: t'es par là / un peu dispo ? :) [13:15:42] NicDumZ: oui [13:15:53] *Simetrical thought that might have been a problem [13:16:03] 03(FIXED) populateCategory does not work with Postgres - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13430 +comment (10greg) [13:16:23] I think a straight CASE WHEN might have worked for mysql too, but no biggie. [13:23:24] 03greg * r32174 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/updaters.inc: Patch from Sven Klemm from bug 13239: search_path tweaks for Postgres. [13:23:31] 03(FIXED) update. php does not properly fix search_path for PostgreSQL database user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13239 +comment (10greg) [13:25:13] 03(mod) #time displays wrong day when given date as input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13357 (10jerome-ml) [13:27:29] 03(ASSIGNED) Can't Replace Images (PostgreSQL) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13345 (10greg) [13:28:16] 03(FIXED) Wrong timestamp format in Postgres - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13026 (10greg) [13:32:57] help ! [13:33:03] i get this error message [13:33:03] Fatal error: Class 'UnlistedSpecialPage' not found in /home/wiki/public_html/extensions/ConfirmEdit/ConfirmEdit_body.php on line 51 [13:33:30] 03(ASSIGNED) Configuration directive ($wgDBmwschema) under the PostgreSQL backend is only used while installing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12936 major->minor; high->normal; +comment (10greg) [13:35:39] alecs: When does it appear? [13:36:23] hello [13:36:42] http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php [13:36:45] 03simetrical * r32175 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (Article.php LinksUpdate.php): Remove apparently pointless $dbw parameter to Article::updateCategoryCounts. [13:36:57] Is it complicated to implement the mediawiki query api? [13:38:58] http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Special:Specialpages /// [13:38:58] Fatal error: Call to undefined function wfLoadExtensionMessages() in /home/wiki/public_html/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ConfirmAccount_body.php on line 9 [13:39:17] alecs: too old mw or too new extension [13:39:42] Simetrical: shouldn't Article::updateCategoryCounts() be in Title.php to avoid creating an article object in LinksUpdate.php ? [13:39:43] ok [13:40:00] ialex, it should maybe be in LinksUpdate.php to begin with. [13:40:05] Apparently Werdna and Tim were discussing that. [14:04:48] G_SabinoMullane, out of curiosity, why are you using a (cat_title, cat_pages) index instead of a unique index on cat_title, and an index on cat_pages? What good is the second half, and don't you need the uniqueness constraint? [14:06:08] 03(mod) #time displays wrong day when given date as input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13357 (10jerome-ml) [14:08:32] so...i upgraded our test-wiki to 1.12.0rc1 [14:08:38] it looks like its working fine [14:12:42] Well, if you run into any problems, please share. [14:13:16] sure i will...is there a bugzilla or something? [14:13:26] !bugzilla [14:13:26] --mwbot-- All bugs in MediaWiki should be reported at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org. This is also the place to request site configuration changes, new features or enhancements to existing features, although bear the following points in mind before making a feature/enhancement request: 1) If the request is specific to a Wikimedia wiki, please discuss the issue on that wiki first. 2) Consider whether a custom extension would be more appropriate. [14:14:04] ok thank you [14:17:00] 03(NEW) Show true message source in Special:Allmessages&ot=php / xml - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13431 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [14:18:12] 03huji * r32176 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: * Adding/updating Persian translations [14:23:18] can anyone help inostalling confirmUser module [14:23:28] ** installing [14:24:34] Simetrical: Oops, you are right, that should be unique. Sorry, was not awake when I wrote that apparently. [14:26:15] G_SabinoMullane, what about the second part? [14:26:32] Why two indexes merged into one? That's not going to work, is it? [14:27:12] 03greg * r32177 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/postgres/ (archives/patch-category.sql tables.sql): Wrong index, should be unique. Thanks Simmetrical. [14:28:48] Ah, right, you fixed that too. [14:28:51] I have set up a wiki that prevents access to non-logged in users. So on first connect to the site, it shows the page where it prompts the user to log in to view pages...however, the title of this page comes up as "ERROR" and I was wondering if I could customize that peice and how, so I can put in a more friendly title [14:29:14] *Simetrical is somewhat interested in pgsql, but has no real opportunity to fool around with it at present, unlike MySQL [14:32:03] Simetrical: PG can use any subset of the columns, just not quite as efficiently. [14:32:31] http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/indexes-multicolumn.html [14:32:48] G_SabinoMullane, can it use a suffix for sorting if there are no restrictions on the prefix? It would have to do a merge sort over every title. [14:32:59] I read that just a couple of days ago. [14:33:07] My impression is that if you want sorting, it's not quite so flexible. [14:33:09] thats same as mysql? [14:33:16] Ooh, fight! :) [14:33:23] I think in this case they're basically the same. [14:33:49] pgsql might theoretically be able to use the second part of the index in places MySQL can't, but it requires scanning the whole index, so you may as well not bother in most cases. [14:33:54] As the pgsql docs say. [14:34:48] Yeah it's a limited use case. [14:35:04] There are some really nice things in pgsql, though, like indexes on expressions. [14:35:09] We could use those in a few places. [14:36:54] my favorite is horizontally partial indexing [14:37:33] Horizontally meaning what? [14:37:50] Like having partitioned indexes? [14:45:51] hi! i've managed to install mediawiki finanly :-) [14:47:25] but it looks very ugly - how can i setup typical wiki(pedia) background and sytle sheet? i've tried to set $wgDefaultSkin = 'monobook' or to 'standard' but it made no difference [14:47:33] german, it normally comes with the Wikipedia-style skin by default. [14:48:05] but it doesn't - font is big times new roman, no background [14:48:33] german, is it loadind the stylesheet? [14:48:34] how can i make standard skin work [14:48:43] how can i check that? [14:48:54] standard skin should be default [14:49:18] german, can you link to your wiki? [14:50:08] yes, but i must delete the password, 1 moment [14:50:37] http://wiki.fithoch2.bwl.lmu.de [14:51:08] DNS entry doesn't exist. [14:51:12] Maybe it hasn't propagated? [14:51:21] http://www.wiki.fithoch2.bwl.lmu.de/index.php/Hauptseite [14:51:39] sorry, doesn't work without www i guess [14:51:40] That works. [14:52:24] german, that appears to be correctly using the skin "Standard". The skin you want is "Monobook", not Standard. [14:52:56] localsettings.php says $wgDefaultSkin = 'monobook'; [14:53:35] german, it's not using Monobook, it's using Standard. Are you sure you didn't restrict the available skins somehow? [14:53:40] Hmm, or is Standard some kind of fallback? [14:53:47] No change with http://www.wiki.fithoch2.bwl.lmu.de/index.php/Hauptseite?useskin=monobook [14:53:56] Right. [14:54:18] do i have to give writing rights to any folder to make it work? [14:55:10] anyone knows what sources have been used when {{formatnum}} localized behavior have been decided? [14:56:30] most likely function have bug in finnish localization since it use thousands separator only when there are five or more numbers, but in finnish language separator is used always (ie. {{formatnum:1234}} should be 1 234, not 1234) [14:56:58] can you look at http://www.wiki.fithoch2.bwl.lmu.de/LocalSettings_part1 [14:57:03] http://www.wiki.fithoch2.bwl.lmu.de/LocalSettings_part1.zip [14:57:05] How do you make a wiki.example.com point to wiki.example.com/wiki without having to put the wiki install on the Docroot or needing to use html redirects?? [14:58:49] i have no idea, the computing center did that [15:00:16] can you guess the problem from the localsettings i put in the zip? [15:00:34] Hello, does somebody know how i get newest articles to a SPECIFIC Portal like 'Sports' or Category. [15:00:53] 03(NEW) When logged in, one cannot create/edit pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13432 normal; normal; MediaWiki: User login/settings; (uberskib) [15:03:22] 03(mod) When logged in, one cannot create/edit pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13432 +comment (10Platonides) [15:04:05] Please point me in the direction of the manual for getting rid of the whole "/wiki/index.php?title=" bit in the url [15:04:33] !shorturl | mboman [15:04:33] --mwbot-- mboman: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [15:04:33] I know it is in the manual, I just can't find it at the moment [15:04:55] Simetrical: thank you :-) [15:05:24] if I wanted to setup a wiki farm on a server that was something like home_dir/en /fr /es /de and so on, where would the source files go that all these sites shared? [15:05:58] can someone give me a hint with that sytle & background thing? [15:07:27] german: you mean the CSS stuff? [15:07:39] 03(mod) feature request: indented sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13425 (10Bob-wikimedia) [15:07:45] yes, becaus it doesn't work [15:09:01] 03mkroetzsch * r32178 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/SMWAdmin/SMW_SpecialSMWAdmin.php: + support for announcing wikis [15:12:20] is dsentrieb there? [15:15:34] 03(FIXED) When logged in, one cannot create/edit pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13432 +comment (10uberskib) [15:15:41] Duesentrieb seems to be here [15:16:56] Dsentrieb: Hi, ich schon wieder. Ich hoffe, ich gehe Dir nicht auf die Nerven. Hast Du 'ne Idee, wie ich mein CSS zum Laufen bekomme? [15:17:36] !css [15:17:36] --mwbot-- To change styles for your wiki, go to one of the MediaWiki:xxx.css wiki page and put your custom styles there (sysop/admin rights required). MediaWiki:common.css is for all skins and should be used for content styles. MediaWiki:monobook.css is for the MonoBook skin (default), etc. For more information, see !skins and [15:18:11] übrigens tut Duesentribe besser - mit ü bekomme ich kein "highlight" auf meinen nick. und ausserdem iser der mit umlaut in der wikipedia ein anderer. [15:19:32] 03(NEW) On images action=render does not work with diff= - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13433 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (AlexSm) [15:22:23] hi all. Is this a only English Talking Supportchannel? [15:22:44] thx, but on tis page it's described how you can modify a skin, but at my wiki no skin works at all [15:23:19] Niedi: you can try whatever language you want, but bad english is morelikely to work than good whatever your native langugae is. unless you are lucky :) [15:23:35] then i try to speak in english :D [15:23:47] german is the other language btw.. soo [15:24:10] *grummel* [15:24:23] wenn wir deutsch reden bleibt wieder alles an mir kleben :) [15:24:33] is nur ne kleinigkeit =) [15:24:36] german: url? [15:24:59] http://www.wiki.fithoch2.bwl.lmu.de [15:25:12] manchmal wenn ich die Seite aufrufe, also mein Wiki, kommt statt dem Wikinamen, nur dies: ber {{SITENAME}} [15:25:28] manchmal jedoch der richtige Name [15:25:34] german: wiki im doc-root -> böse. bitte IMMER ein unterverzeichnis nehmen. [15:26:02] Niedi: kommt wo? klingt aber komisch [15:26:24] duesentrieb: can i move and fix that or do i have to run setup again? [15:26:44] sorry to all how don't understand german - i'll try to stick to english :-) [15:27:22] german: you can move it, the only thing you should have to adjust would be wgScriptPath in LocalSettings.php [15:27:38] than i'll try that, thx [15:27:40] unten im Footer beispielsweise.. Datenschutz ber {{SITENAME}} Impressum. Da sollte doch statt dem SITENAME der Name meiner Wikipage kommen. Das kommt jedoch nur ab und an.. [15:28:04] german: from looking at that page, you seem to be using a very "bare" custom skin. have you been messing with that? [15:28:40] Niedi: komisch. speichere mal die LocalSettings.php nochmal (damit sich das datum ändert unddamit der cache geleert wird) [15:29:17] Niedi: aber so genau kenn ich mich damit nicht aus. und weil wir jetzt deutsch gesprochen haben musst du alles auf englisch nochmal erklären :P [15:29:38] kk, danke erstmal ^^ [15:29:39] german: did you set $wgDefaultSkin ? [15:29:56] duesentrieb: that's the problem. i've tried to set $wgDefaultSkin = 'monobook'; or $wgDefaultSkin = 'standard'; - but both dididn work [15:30:06] german: remove it. [15:30:44] remove *all* mention of wgDefaultSkin [15:30:55] my suspicion is you have more than one [15:32:05] i'll be rigth back, thanks [15:32:10] is anyone here knowledgeable in wiki familys that can explain a bit about how they work to me? [15:32:24] german: the page i saw was using the skin "standard" bzw (which is called "classic" on the interface, because it has not been really the standard for a looong time) [15:32:56] Is Nostalgia a different one? [15:33:05] t0lk: there are different ways to set them up, and different aspects to tying them together. what do you want to know? [15:33:25] i have a site that runs a few different language versions of the same project [15:33:30] Simetrical: yes, different [15:33:32] i'd like them all to run off the same source [15:33:44] so i can just do one update, and install one extension [15:33:52] and have them all be able to use them [15:34:23] the setup is public_html/en /de /fr etc. [15:34:44] Simetrical: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_639?useskin=standard vs. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_639?useskin=nostalgia [15:34:57] standard is more like monobook (sidebar and all) [15:35:29] t0lk: ok, the source sharing aspect. [15:36:00] t0lk: masically, you map seve3ral subdomains, or web pathes, to the same directory. [15:36:10] ok [15:36:35] t0lk: then, in your LocalSettings.php, you detec which one is requested (by looking at HTTP_HOST or some such), and then include the settings file for that wiki. [15:36:49] so will there be an installation of mediawiki in /de or /fr? [15:36:51] the magic is simply that the config file is a full script file - you can make it as complex as you like [15:37:04] t0lk: those directories will not even exist [15:37:08] oh [15:37:18] those directories are subdomains though [15:37:35] map all subdomains to ONE directory. [15:38:07] under that, make another subdirectory for the wiki files, so you can do the usual w/ vs. wiki/ setup. [15:38:22] Where can read something about Namespace Problems.. or Wiki SystemTexts.. [15:38:28] ok [15:38:33] thanks a lot Duesentrieb :) [15:38:37] np [15:38:45] !namespace Niedi [15:38:45] --mwbot-- For help with understanding and manipulating namespaces, please consult . See also !extranamespace [15:41:57] duesentrieb: hi! i deleted that line but it didn't effect the wiki. i'm now copiing all data from the root path to a subfolder and try it again [15:42:32] i'm the user german, but got a new name obviously [15:42:44] user-from-de: i noticed :) [15:45:37] can anyone recommend a vps company? [15:45:46] or other non-shared hosting company? [15:46:19] hm.. Namespaces works on my side only up to 50% of the time i reload my side..someone know, how to fix that? [15:46:28] duesentrieb: ftp-upload stops always at the same step, so i will delete all data from my server and re-upload it in the subfolder. is the only thing i have to change is $wgScriptPath = "/wiki"; - is that right? [15:47:17] t0lk, I use The Planet as a dedicated host, and I'm happy enough with them. That's for a dual-core server with RAID 10 and 8 GB RAM, so maybe you don't need that much if you're thinking VPS. [15:47:37] well how do i determine how much i need exactly? [15:47:50] t0lk, try it and see if it's fast enough. :) [15:47:58] lol [15:48:23] How many hits per second are you thinking? [15:48:35] can you take a look at this?: http://bahaiki.org/stats/Bahaikipedia-January.png [15:48:51] that's pretty consistant [15:50:38] t0lk, VPS should be okay for you. I have ~500 times that much traffic on a dedicated server with no sign of load, and the web software is much less scalable than MW. [15:50:52] ok heh [15:51:13] I'm trying to make a Wikipedia Spanish DVD [15:51:17] Someone could help me with Wikifilter? [15:51:21] I have the files: eswiki-20080317-pages-articles.xml and eswiki-20080317-pages-articles_index.art [15:51:27] But I can't undestand how to run the http://localhost/wiki [15:51:32] Someone? [15:51:39] thanks Simetrical [15:52:59] do you know of any reliable vps companies? [15:53:02] I'm trying first run wikipedia locally [15:54:00] 03simetrical * r32179 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Category.php: [15:54:00] Fix an error for categories named literally "Project:" or some similarly weird [15:54:01] thing. I thought that's not a legal title, but I'm told otherwise. Is there a [15:54:01] better way to do this than manually prefixing "Category:"? The second parameter [15:54:01] to newFromText is ignored if there are any prefixes, according to the docs. [15:54:01] t0lk, dunno. [15:54:08] ok [15:54:10] I have a Apache server but i can`t undestand how to make apply the art filter [15:54:45] TimStarling, is r32179 stupid? It looks stupid to me. [15:54:55] Got to be a more sane way. [15:55:00] does anybody know, if you can reach this chatroom via web browser with an applett like http://wikipedia-irc.cruxwan.de/Chat.html ? [15:55:18] Simetrical: at least it works, thank yo [15:55:44] hm.. Namespaces works on my side only up to 50% of the time i reload my side..someone know, how to fix that? [15:55:56] I'm trying to make a Wikipedia Spanish DVD [15:56:00] Someone could help me with Wikifilter? [15:56:05] I have the files: eswiki-20080317-pages-articles.xml and eswiki-20080317-pages-articles_index.art [15:56:11] But I can't undestand how to run the http://localhost/wiki [15:56:30] I'm trying first run wikipedia locally [15:57:10] Someone would help me? [16:00:37] how do I create a set up dump files (like on download.wikimedia.org) from a repository? [16:01:01] I'm trying to make a Wikipedia Spanish DVD [16:01:07] Someone could help me with Wikifilter? [16:01:12] I have the files: eswiki-20080317-pages-articles.xml and eswiki-20080317-pages-articles_index.art [16:01:17] But I can't undestand how to run the http://localhost/wiki [16:01:24] I'm trying first run wikipedia locally [16:03:32] I'm trying to make a Wikipedia Spanish DVD [16:03:44] i have locally a server Apache [16:03:50] with MySQL [16:04:36] I have followed all the steps --->> http://wikifilter.sourceforge.net/ [16:04:48] But I can't undestand how to run the http://localhost/wiki [16:04:54] I have the files: eswiki-20080317-pages-articles.xml and eswiki-20080317-pages-articles_index.art [16:05:11] hello [16:05:19] hello? [16:06:02] Nikerabbit: yes? [16:06:20] I'm trying first run wikipedia locally because I'm trying to make a Wikipedia Spanish DVD,i have locally a server Apache and I have followed all the steps --->> http://wikifilter.sourceforge.net/. I have the files: eswiki-20080317-pages-articles.xml and eswiki-20080317-pages-articles_index.art. But I can't undestand how to run the http://localhost/wiki [16:07:09] libertad: open it in browser? [16:07:22] No [16:07:58] libertad: download from here www.apachiefriends.org [16:08:21] ugh [16:08:32] alecs: 404 error. I have apache [16:08:42] hmmm ... [16:08:51] where you placed the wiki ? [16:08:59] hi duesentrieb, i have reinstalled wiki in the subfolder with a new setup of localsettings.php, but the stylesheet doesn' [16:09:03] alecs: mediawiki? [16:09:09] yes [16:09:21] which folder [16:09:27] duesentrieb: t work at all. than i deleted the string $wgDefaultSkin = 'monobook'; but without any effect [16:09:40] alecs: localhost/wiki, mediawiki run fine but I can`t undestand how apply the art index for the search [16:09:54] I have the files: eswiki-20080317-pages-articles.xml and eswiki-20080317-pages-articles_index.art. generated with wikifilter [16:11:12] I'm trying first run wikipedia locally because I'm trying to make a Wikipedia Spanish DVD,i have locally a server Apache and I have followed all the steps --->> http://wikifilter.sourceforge.net/. I have the files: eswiki-20080317-pages-articles.xml and eswiki-20080317-pages-articles_index.art. But I can't undestand how to run the http://localhost/wiki [16:11:56] duesentrieb: if you want to have on the look on the wiki: http://www.wiki.fithoch2.bwl.lmu.de/wiki/index.php/Hauptseite or on the localsettings-file: http://www.wiki.fithoch2.bwl.lmu.de/LocalSettings_without_mysql-data.zip [16:13:04] Simetrical: (about r32179) you can try to use makeTitleSafe instead of newFromText [16:15:06] because duesentrieb has quit [16:15:15] I'm trying first run wikipedia locally because I'm trying to make a Wikipedia Spanish DVD,i have locally a server Apache and I have followed all the steps --->> http://wikifilter.sourceforge.net/. I have the files: eswiki-20080317-pages-articles.xml and eswiki-20080317-pages-articles_index.art. But I can't undestand how to run the http://localhost/wiki [16:15:19] I can`t undestand how apply the art index for the search [16:15:21] and the dump file into mediawiki [16:15:48] question to all: can you help me with my style sheet? http://www.wiki.fithoch2.bwl.lmu.de/wiki/index.php/Hauptseite doesn't work - please have a look and help me. thx!!!!!! [16:16:03] Nobody responds me [16:16:59] libertad: probably there is nobody with the experience needed to answer you right now [16:17:34] hm.. Namespaces works on my side only up to 50% of the time i reload my side..someone know, how to fix that? [16:17:53] BrokenArrow: Seguramente [16:18:36] and does somebody have experience with my skin problem? [16:22:03] who forgot to comment on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13322 ? [16:22:35] can anyone help me with my skin problem? [16:22:43] it looks so ugly [16:24:30] is anyone there? [16:24:49] 03(mod) enumerated Property:Page only works for first allows_value - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11820 (10nathan) [16:25:47] hello world? [16:26:03] the truth is out there? [16:26:26] user-from-de: dunno about that... [16:26:30] I'm trying first run wikipedia locally because I'm trying to make a Wikipedia Spanish DVD,i have locally a server Apache and I have followed all the steps --->> http://wikifilter.sourceforge.net/. I have the files: eswiki-20080317-pages-articles.xml and eswiki-20080317-pages-articles_index.art. But I can't undestand how to run the http://localhost/wiki. But I can't undestand how to apply... [16:26:34] ...that into the mediawiki, I have eswiki-20080317-pages-articles.xml and eswiki-20080317-pages-articles_index.art (index parsered file with wikifilter). How to apply that into mediawiki ? [16:26:59] mboman: but thanks for your answer [16:27:24] user-from-de: I am looking at your page.. can you tell me exactly what's wrong with it? [16:27:36] thank you [16:27:46] i cant use any skin [16:27:59] there is $wgDefaultSkin = 'monobook'; [16:28:09] in the localsettings.php [16:28:19] but it doesnt work - neighter another [16:29:20] if you want to have a look on my local settings file: http://www.wiki.fithoch2.bwl.lmu.de/LocalSettings_without_mysql-data.zip [16:30:09] user-from-de: can you just make it a txt file? hate to download a .zip for a single file [16:31:18] yes, sure, 1 moment [16:32:10] http://www.wiki.fithoch2.bwl.lmu.de/LocalSettings_without_mysql-data.txt [16:35:42] I'm trying first run wikipedia locally because I'm trying to make a Wikipedia Spanish DVD,i have locally a server Apache and I have followed all the steps --->> http://wikifilter.sourceforge.net/. I have the files: eswiki-20080317-pages-articles.xml and eswiki-20080317-pages-articles_index.art. But I can't undestand how to run the http://localhost/wiki. But I can't undestand how to apply... [16:35:44] ...that into the mediawiki, I have eswiki-20080317-pages-articles.xml and eswiki-20080317-pages-articles_index.art (index parsered file with wikifilter). How to apply that into mediawiki ?. The xml is too big for the web import [16:36:37] mboman: any idea? [16:37:03] user-from-de: any idea? -->> my question [16:39:33] user-from-de: you are missing the "$wgDefaultSkin = 'monobook';" line [16:40:13] mboman: thx, yes duesentrieb told me to try it without, but it's the same when it's in [16:40:39] mboman: and its the same with other skins than monobook [16:41:32] libertad: a few hours ago it seems like beeing some experts here. mabye thats connected to the business hours - duesentrieb, an expert from germany was here until round about 5 p.m. - maybe you can try it later or tomorrow [16:41:55] 5 p.m. central european time (germany) [16:41:59] user-from-de: What's your time? [16:42:07] 5.45 p.m. [16:42:19] your time right now [16:42:39] 5.45 p.m = 17.45 Uhr [16:42:40] my time is 12:16 p.m. [16:42:43] mine is 0:42.. perhaps time for me to go to sleep.. [16:43:03] considering that I got a morning meeting and a afternoon presentation to do [16:43:18] 12:16 - how is that? not 12:46 - are there timezones with half hours? [16:43:28] user-from-de: yes [16:43:39] my time zone is GMT:00 [16:43:45] wow, that's new for me [16:44:05] GMT+0800 [16:44:05] is mine [16:44:10] mine is gmt+0100 [16:44:18] = central european time [16:44:35] libertad: i thought you were in spain? [16:45:03] user-from-de: I'm in Venezuela [16:45:24] user-from-de: india seems to have a half hour timezone [16:45:47] libertad: i see, its "only" a spanish spoken dvd, not a spanish one :-) [16:46:33] mboman: venezuela as well - seems to [16:46:59] so mboman - do you have an idea about the skin? [16:47:30] user-from-de: it's the first DVD spanish project [16:47:34] user-from-de: sorry, no.. my site "just works" [16:48:00] mboman: Some idea avec le wikifilter? [16:48:05] mboman: well, thanks! good look for your presentation tomorrow. i work on my diploma thesis about wikis and it won't work [16:49:10] user-from-de: Vous parle français? [16:49:14] *parlez [16:49:40] i'm gonna leave you now. i'm looking forward to meet duesentrieb here in round about 16-20 hours - when you're also online then: he is a real expert! [16:50:07] sorry, libertad, only english - and latin ;-)) [16:50:32] except german and special bavarian version of german :D [16:50:36] user-from-de: latin's a dead language [16:50:47] i know, i had to learn it [16:51:41] user-from-de: oldest books? [16:51:55] latin books? [16:52:11] no, they produce brand new latin books for pupils [16:52:52] but school time is a few years ago, and latin is dead for me as well ... [16:53:10] nice [16:53:21] okay, as we say in germany for "hope to see you soon": Auf Wiedersehn. Farewell libertad & mboman [16:54:18] user-from-de: au revoir mon ami [16:57:42] hi there [16:57:52] is it possible to get the whole url of the wiki? [16:57:53] like [16:58:03] http://mydomain.com/wiki/ ? [16:58:11] i mean inside an extension [16:58:36] because $IP is just the root or am i wrong? [16:59:08] 03raymond * r32180 10/trunk/phase3/ (7 files in 4 dirs): [16:59:09] * (bug 1459) Search for duplicate files by hash: Special:FileDuplicateSearch [16:59:09] * Add a link on the image description page to Special:FileDuplicateSearch/filename.ext [17:04:11] 03(NEW) Show warning when hash identical file exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13434 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (raimond.spekking) [17:06:04] 03(FIXED) search for images/files by hash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1459 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [17:15:03] hiow can i add more user types [17:15:10] ? [17:15:13] ** how [17:18:52] alecs> read the doc, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights [17:21:25] my wiki's user list is full of 1600 spambots that have registered but are not able to edit pages. i want to spring clean the list by deleting EVERY user from my wiki whos never edited a single post [17:21:27] how can i do this? [17:21:32] err edited a single article even [17:21:43] 03(NEW) formatnum to handle thousands separator correctly in finnish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13435 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (agony) [17:27:53] 03(mod) formatnum to handle thousands separator correctly in finnish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13435 (10N/A) [17:34:19] hm.. Namespaces works on my side only up to 50% of the time i reload my side..someone know, how to fix that? [17:43:22] 03(mod) Image captions ending with external links display inconsistently - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11239 +comment (10mormegil) [18:05:25] LaptopBrain: are there any good users? [18:07:03] LaptopBrain: There is a mainteance script for this, look in maintenance/ for an aptly named script. [18:07:44] is it possible to protect a column in a table with mediawiki? [18:08:07] not easily [18:08:26] but it's possible? [18:08:32] Good evening [18:08:35] not without a very complex extension [18:08:51] which probably doesn't exist yet [18:08:53] if it's possible, how would I go about doing it? [18:08:55] I'm in serious trouble with my wiki, anybody willing to advise me? [18:09:05] !ask [18:09:05] --mwbot-- Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [18:09:33] 03aaron * r32181 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ImagePage.php: [18:09:33] rev_deleted merge: [18:09:33] *Hide deleted content [18:09:33] *Add show/hide links [18:10:23] After a server move, the text of all articles is gone. Discussion pages are still there. [18:10:46] have a look at www.esowatch.com and see the mess [18:12:56] thomas_x: where's the wiki [18:13:27] jlerner: www.esowatch.com [18:13:35] i looked at that [18:13:38] but where's the wiki [18:13:58] any mediawiki page... [18:14:59] its gone.. strange. My provider must have done that [18:15:48] http://esowatch.com/index.php?title=Hauptseite works [18:17:06] 03(mod) using thumbnails disrupts background color specified in
markup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5879 (10mormegil) [18:17:59] hello there ;) [18:19:19] jlerner: Do you find it now? [18:20:39] 03(mod) image alt text should be compulsary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2443 (10mormegil) [18:20:53] yes [18:21:05] how do I insert raw html into a mediawiki? [18:21:11] did the software version change? [18:21:19] nope [18:21:24] mrmonday: put it inside some html [18:21:29] but you need to have rawhtml enabled... [18:21:36] it's not advised though [18:21:42] I copied all files from the old server to the new server [18:21:58] thomas_x: what about the database [18:22:04] then, I copied the database using the bigdump utility [18:22:09] how do I enable it? is it possible to only allow it to be used on certain pages? [18:23:11] Is there a tool to do single revision deletion in a heavily edited article? (trying to avoid delete/selective undelete with bazillions of boxes to check.) [18:23:19] !rawhtml | mrmonday [18:23:19] --mwbot-- mrmonday: I don't know anything about "rawhtml". You might try: !html [18:23:23] !html | mrmonday [18:23:23] --mwbot-- mrmonday: For allowing any and all HTML, see . This is of course VERY DANGEROUS. Safer options include , and . [18:23:30] mrmonday: there may be an extension to enable it for just one article [18:24:11] if I can do it for just one article I can protect the page, so there wouldn't be a problem [18:24:18] Amgine__: Not yet, but a tool is on the way. [18:24:33] thomas_x: bigdump? [18:24:48] http://www.ozerov.de/bigdump.php [18:24:57] yeah [18:25:10] you [18:25:12] The database is 7 Mbyte big [18:25:20] MinuteElectron: bug #3576 ?? [18:25:21] you're missing articles in the main namespace only? [18:25:31] yep, exactly [18:26:10] thomas_x: http://esowatch.com/index.php?title=Hauptseite&action=history [18:26:24] Amgine__: Maybe, but regardless - revision deletion is being developed and gradually merged into the main codebase. [18:26:30] And you cannot edit any article [18:26:51] 03aaron * r32182 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: $synced not defined nor needed here [18:27:01] Thanks MinuteElectron... just noting that bug has been actively developed since 2005, and no end in sight. [18:27:05] is this the old home page? http://esowatch.com/index.php?title=Hauptseite&oldid=3129 [18:28:05] why is there so little information about the maintenance scripts? even the php files theirself don't read much in most cases. just ruined my article count... [18:28:16] nope, its an error message saying he did not find it in the database [18:28:27] updateArticleCount.php from 8750 to 78 :D [18:28:48] weird [18:29:02] i just use mysqldump to move databases from one server to another, never had a problem [18:29:03] yep [18:29:04] maybe try that [18:29:21] well, I dont have shell access [18:29:36] I can only use phpmyadmin to dump the database [18:29:56] phpmyadmin is useless for making dumps, it will corrupt them [18:30:37] yep seems so. esp special characters [18:30:41] minuteelectron: what do you suggest, if you dont have shell access? [18:31:20] thomas_x: try special:export, special:import [18:31:23] btw, I moved my blog just fine this way : http://blog.esowatch.com [18:31:46] blog != mediawiki [18:32:01] your host may provide a method, or you could e-mail their support and ask them to dump it via mysqldump for you [18:34:20] mediawiki bug count is....... 2031 open bugses [18:34:26] Ok, I'll try asking them [18:35:22] brion: how many of those have been reopened? [18:35:24] brion: wow, pretty low [18:35:43] 251 :) [18:35:49] hehe [18:35:52] *brion is counting only 'mediawiki' component atm [18:36:09] *AngelLover still wonders about private logging [18:36:11] could it be possible to filter out open bugs that has had no activity what so ever? [18:36:44] brion: ↑ [18:36:53] brion: hmm, with log_deleted, the dumps have to be altered anyway [18:37:10] AzaTht: how bout you find them, then put some activity on them :) [18:37:31] brion: :-P [18:38:08] brion: as I assume it's not possible to search for such combination, I would have to have database access [18:39:58] thanks [18:40:00] you can search for bugs which have changed [18:41:09] brion: true, but you can't search for bugs that hasn't been changed [18:41:32] make both lists and remove the ones in both, silly :) [18:41:50] I tried to use "Any one of a commenter doesn't matching .*" [18:42:03] but it seems the reporter is included in the group commenter [18:42:23] 03aaron * r32183 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/rebuildrecentchanges.inc: Populate rc_deleted [18:44:57] 03(FIXED) Explain the wiki syntax in detailed EBNF - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7 +comment (10azatoth) [18:45:48] AzaTht: that is the preprocessor only [18:46:26] flyingparchment: hmm [18:47:07] flyingparchment: should it be marked as wontfix then? [18:47:25] as the wiki syntax cannot fully be specified in EBNF [18:47:26] 03(NEW) Image caption is interpreted as a parameter (e.g. =?UTF-8?Q?=20when=20it=20ends=20with=20?==?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=9Cpx=E2=80=9D?=) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13436 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (mormegil) [18:48:08] hmm, who wrote wikibugs now again [18:58:14] how can i include a php file in an extension? [19:00:58] require_once [19:04:07] yep ok now it appears on th very top and not where i expected it. gotta try harder [19:06:49] 03(FIXED) Install TitleBlacklist extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12366 (10vasilvv) [19:07:08] 03aaron * r32184 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevsPage.php): Add userCanSetFlags() to remove duplication [19:13:47] 03(mod) image alt text should be compulsary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2443 +comment (10minuteelectron) [19:15:29] Ok I see a dilemma for a feature i need: I want to insert text like [[Category:X]]. All extensions i found supporting insert text "store the text on wiki pages what makes those pages included into the ctagories, e.g. Category:X. But they shouldn't show up ther and I cannot use or cos those would be inserted... So the best may be to call the insert text from php files at the moment i call the extension. [19:16:03] *insert = like insert into edit pages like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CharInsert does [19:18:53] Is it possible to comment out lines in MediaWiki pages? [19:19:53] what is the default document root directory for mediawiki? [19:20:03] Taleman: like an html comment, with [19:20:17] ialex: Thanks, will try that. [19:20:48] Xax: depends where you installed MediaWiki [19:21:54] ialex: Cool, it works! Nice work. [19:28:42] I'm trying first run wikipedia locally because I'm trying to make a Wikipedia Spanish DVD,i have locally a server Apache and I have followed all the steps --->> http://wikifilter.sourceforge.net/. I have the files: eswiki-20080317-pages-articles.xml and eswiki-20080317-pages-articles_index.art. But I can't undestand how to run the http://localhost/wiki. But I can't undestand how to apply... [19:28:44] ...that into the mediawiki, I have eswiki-20080317-pages-articles.xml and eswiki-20080317-pages-articles_index.art (index parsered file with wikifilter). How to apply that into mediawiki ?. The xml is too big for the web import [19:30:24] libertad: maybe with maintenance/importDump.php script [19:30:36] ialex: but the index? [19:30:50] libertad: no idea ^^ [19:34:40] libertad: you need to know how to import the database dump into your wiki? [19:35:01] Mike_lifeguard: and index too [19:36:53] I think you can simply unpack the dump, then run importdump.php on it [19:38:44] I don't know about the index - isn't that simply built from the dump using rebuildall.php or something? [19:39:10] *Mike_lifeguard is not a developer, and has only imported one dump ever, so... use this advice at your own risk ;) [19:39:29] Mike_lifeguard: ok, link rebuilall.php [19:39:41] libertad: in the maintenace/rebuildall.php file. [19:39:51] ok [19:41:26] MinuteElectron: MWDumper is better? [19:42:32] MWDumper must first be run, then rebuildall.hp [19:43:43] MinuteElectron: what do you think about wikifilter? [19:44:00] ialex: is the default document root directory not within the mediawiki directory? [19:44:07] libertad: I haven;t a clue what it is. [19:44:42] Xax: it *is* he MediaWiki directory [19:45:04] ialex: ah okay. thanks :) [19:45:46] 03(mod) Allow non-Arabic numerals in {{#expr:}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13379 (10brion) [19:48:13] 03(mod) Show true message source in Special:Allmessages&ot=php / xml - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13431 (10brion) [19:55:02] why is the Toc [19:55:05] not a div? [19:55:38] 14(DUP) using thumbnails disrupts background color specified in
markup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5879 +comment (10brion) [19:55:39] 03(mod) White border around thumb in Standard skin outside main namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8814 +comment (10brion) [19:55:41] 03ialex * r32185 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/Wiki.php index.php): [19:55:41] Rewrite a bit the MediaWiki class: [19:55:41] * Document function parameter and undocumented functions [19:55:41] * Move use of global settings to localized one setted in index.php [19:55:41] * fix whitespaces [19:55:43] * Use __METHOD__ instead of hardcoded method names [19:55:45] * Call MediaWiki::articleFromTitle() staticly [19:56:49] "setted", hehe [19:57:18] gh [20:00:18] AaronSchulz: i know my english is not perfect :) [20:01:13] but this class is horrible, *sigh* [20:01:30] that's because it's just a copy+paste of the old index.php into a class [20:01:37] PHP noob refactoring ftw :D [20:03:46] 03(NEW) sortkey doesn't work with generator=categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13437 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (russblau) [20:05:01] where can I get the ExtensionClass.php that's needed by AddHTML.php and other extensions? [20:05:32] mrmonday: check SVN? [20:07:32] there's so many places to check in there :/ [20:08:39] 12 previously passing test(s) now FAILING! :( [20:08:44] *brion grrs [20:09:36] *NicDumZ hides. :þ [20:13:57] there should be some continuous integration tool which only aim would be to drop an anvil above the head of the guy who *just* broke the build :) [20:18:10] 03brion * r32186 10/trunk/extensions/Cite/citeParserTests.txt: [20:18:10] Update tests for fragment ID changes in r32160 [20:18:10] Note that underscores *are* valid to begin an ID with in XHTML, but not in HTML 4, so are recommended against in HTML-compatible XHTML, although browsers seem to allow it. [20:23:54] Okay, I'm having some slight issues, as my custom CSS, I copied over the monobook.css from the Italian Wikipedia. [20:28:12] hello, my {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} does not seem to update [20:29:27] Cratos: first thing to keep in mind is that that counts "good" pages: main namespace, not a redirect, and at least one wiki-link [20:30:26] Ok, well it seem to be stuck on 44, but even today I have added 3 new articles [20:31:28] And a index page does link to those new pages [20:34:16] Also the Special:Allpages does show +- 130 pages [20:34:55] So do all of these pages need an link on it or a link to it? [20:37:16] Duesentrieb: A link to it or a link on it? [20:39:26] bleh... this time he's out to lunch [20:39:48] ... well you you know? [20:40:47] hi. pls how to get the title object by outputpage object? [20:41:05] Cratos: a link on it. actually, i think it just checks for "[[" being present [20:41:35] ok, that would clear that up... [20:42:23] flo__: you don't. the outputpage object doesn't know about the title. [20:42:27] is there a way to filter the rc feed [20:42:35] so that I only see edits from bot flaged users? [20:42:55] flo__: you can get the title from an article object. or, if need be, from the wgTitle global, though globals are evil... [20:43:13] So should I use a different tag to get the number of pages listed in Special:Allpages ? [20:43:38] Hey all [20:43:51] Cratos: i think {{NUMBEROFPAGES}} exists... [20:43:55] evil globals.. yes. [20:44:28] Got a server (running ubuntu) and have installed mediawiki but its a shared resource so all the domains can reach the same wiki. How can I change it to only be for one of the domains my machine runs? [20:44:31] Cratos: that would be *everything*, including talk pages, subpages, etc [20:44:51] In some of my extensions in dev I need simply to output sth dependent on the title and i am still not sure what hook to use [20:45:00] Yes I did notice that, 1540 pages I wish! [20:45:24] napi: no idea how the ubuntu package works. generally, you simply copy it into the directory where you want to have it. [20:45:41] OutputPageBeforeHTML seems to be the most logical, [20:45:56] Cratos: not sure if we have more sophisticated counters. i don't think so. [20:46:10] hmm ok. installed it via apt-get. will do a manual install instead [20:46:23] but with ParserAfterTidy i could use parser->getTitle [20:47:02] flo__: if it is something in article text, that would be the right place. if it's something that belongs to the skin/navigation, then it would not [20:48:37] So?? how do they count it on the wikipedia frontpage? [20:50:51] never mind they also use {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} [20:52:25] thanks anyway [20:53:39] i'm changing some settings with the monobook skin, and the personal bar is now showing up with a background and a border. any ideas why that would be? [20:55:46] wtf [20:56:52] 03huji * r32187 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [20:56:52] * Adding/updating Persian translations [20:56:52] * Updating messages.inc to let RebuildLanguage work correctly with the newly added message block [20:59:36] good day [21:00:10] if I want to update from mediawiki 1.11.0 to 1.12rc1, do I just need to overwrite the files on the server with the ones from the new package? [21:00:26] barra: and re-run the installer or update.php, like the upgrade manual explains [21:04:28] oki, thanks for the info flyingparchment [21:13:07] brion, get my email? [21:14:41] brion: what would be better for global blocks: list of regexes like spam blacklist or special table with special interface to edit it [21:14:43] ? [21:15:25] back [21:16:33] wikia uses the regexblock for global blocks... but IMHO, one which doesn't use regex would be good paired with that, cause plain string matching is better for performance... Using regex for exact matches all the time is to much [21:33:21] Hey [21:33:41] Does anyone know of a good extension for a little box that people on the wiki could talk to each other in? [21:34:57] is it possible to get the whole url of the wiki? like http://mydomain.com/wiki ? [21:36:08] 03(FIXED) feature request: indented sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13425 +comment (10Bob-wikimedia) [21:36:35] Asga, {{fullurl:}} [21:36:55] I'm trying import wikipedia dump inner mediawiki : [21:36:56] java -server -classpath mysql-connector-java-3.1.11/mysql-connector-java-3.1.11-bin.jar:mwdumper.jar org.mediawiki.dumper.Dumper --output=mysql://127.0.0.1/wiki/testwiki?user=root\&password=15895006 --format=xml eswiki-20080317-pages-articles.xml [21:36:58] pause [21:36:59] Error: no `server' JVM at `C:\Archivos de programa\Java\jre1.6.0_03\bin\server\j [21:37:01] vm.dll'. [21:37:11] I tried shoutbox, but everyone on the internet can use that... [21:38:19] MinuteElectron: where's the error? [21:38:25] i don't know [21:38:33] MinuteElectron: thanks [21:39:00] Alright thanks for the non-help. :) [21:40:38] libertad: skip the -server param [21:40:43] 03(mod) Image caption is interpreted as a parameter (e.g. =?UTF-8?Q?=20when=20it=20ends=20with=20?==?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=9Cpx=E2=80=9D?=) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13436 (10soxred93) [21:40:59] brion: ok [21:41:44] Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: mysql-connector-java- [21:41:45] 3/1/11-bin/jar:mwdumper/jar [21:42:27] brion: may I bug you once more for the patollers right on persian Wikipedia? [21:42:58] how do I enable media uploads? [21:43:13] !uploads | mrmonday [21:43:13] --mwbot-- mrmonday: File uploads are an often-used feature of MediaWiki, but are disabled by default in all current release versions. To enable them, first make the upload directory (default images) writable by PHP, then set $wgEnableUploads to true in LocalSettings.php (i.e. "$wgEnableUploads = true;"). See for more info. [21:43:14] $wgEnableUploads = true; [21:44:25] thanks =] [21:45:22] 03(mod) Allow non-Arabic numerals in {{#expr:}} - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13379 (10huji.huji) [21:46:19] Is there a guide to off loading static content from apache onto a different server, I have manually edited much of the css ie list-style-image: url(http://static.server.com/wiki/bullet.gif); but cannot see how to off load the images/media content [21:48:22] how do I set the maximum file size for uploads, and limit uploads to registered users? [21:48:46] 03(mod) search for images/files by hash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1459 +comment (10huji.huji) [21:49:20] *brion pokes at new category display on a locl test wiki [21:49:44] 'La jenaj 95 paĝoj estas en ĉi tiu kategorio, el 341 entute. ' [21:49:45] vs [21:49:50] 'Estas 200 artikoloj en ĉi tiu kategorio.' [21:49:54] yeah i think that's an improvement :D [21:50:21] Hojjat: thanks. I added the wrong bug number :( [21:50:39] Raymond_: I figured.. so I thought it'll help to add the right one! [21:50:49] yeah :) [21:50:59] is there a way to make a snapshot of wikipedia and make updates after the initial snapshot? [21:52:24] I mean is wiki content set up to allow for this? [21:53:10] yigal: not conveniently at the moment unless you contract with us for an update feed [21:55:00] brion: I'm just a single user who want the encyclopedia when I don't have an internet service - is this acceptable? [21:55:08] s/want/&s [21:55:28] that's probably not very convenient for you then; you'd have to run a local webserver and have a couple tb of space free maybe? [21:56:25] Soxred93 {{fullurl:}}? [21:56:34] brion: I see the tb part is unnacceptable so I will try for a simpler approach, probably just caching in firefox :) [21:56:45] Yeah [21:57:32] {{fullurl:x y @}} links to http://mydomain.com/wiki/x y @, in your case [21:58:52] can anyone help me in offloading static content, my server is grinding to a halt :-( [21:59:19] duesentrieb: may i ask for your help again? [21:59:39] okay Soxred93... but this is in wikitext isn't it? [21:59:46] Yes [22:00:02] is there a variable or something in the source code? [22:00:09] or do i have to parse it? [22:00:19] No, it acts like any other magic word [22:00:27] It comes with mediawiki [22:00:38] yeah i know [22:00:41] what you mean [22:00:51] but i need the url in my extension... [22:01:01] Ah, you meant in the source code [22:01:09] yes :) [22:01:19] sorry if i was a bit unclear [22:02:21] $_SERVER['HTTP_HOST'] [22:02:23] I believe [22:03:19] thanks [22:03:24] ill try that [22:03:47] hi! at my freshly installed mediawiki no skin is working? it didn't work with default settings after having run setup, neither any changes in localsettings.php were successful. can you please have a look an http://www.wiki.fithoch2.bwl.lmu.de - thx [22:07:11] 03(NEW) Allow Special:MIMESearch to work under miser mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13438 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (vasilvv) [22:08:17] in my localsettings.php: is it possible to link on http://wikipedia.org/skin/... to include wikipedias skin in my wiki? [22:09:08] 03(mod) Allow Special:MIMESearch to work under miser mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13438 (10brion) [22:10:05] Duesentrieb: are you there and may i ask you for your help once more? thx [22:14:14] Can someone direct me to somewhere that will explain to me how to change the default search in mediwiki? For example, I want it to search more than just the main namespace when someone enters something in the search field. [22:14:36] I've created a series of namespaces for ogrinizational purposes so I want to make sure it will search all of those [22:15:31] hi. How can I install on my media-wiki the component that highlight source codes? (e.g. php) [22:16:00] munda: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault [22:16:22] peleg: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi [22:17:04] BrokenArrow: thanks! [22:18:22] np [22:18:30] can anyone help me with my skin problem [22:19:07] german: your question doesn't really make sense.. the skin wikipedia uses comes with every install. it's the default. it's called monobook. [22:19:48] munda: $wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault [22:20:00] !wg NamespacesToBeSearchedDefault [22:20:00] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault [22:21:09] duesentrieb: yes, but setting skin values to my directories didn't work, that's why i thought of linking to the wikipedia-server [22:21:22] o_O [22:21:29] that doesn't make sense :) [22:21:44] also... directories? huh? [22:21:50] german: everything should've been already set up for you. No configuration in that sense is necessary unless you want to add in a completely custom skin [22:21:51] usually you give the *name* of a skin. [22:21:54] thanks :) [22:22:24] german: also, when i looked at your wiki, you *were* using a skin. maybe not the one you wanted, but "standard" was up and working. [22:23:04] maybe i try to rename monobook to standard! [22:23:07] german: you you edited any file besides LocalSettings.php? Can you put your LocalSettings.php on a pastebin (without the db password)? [22:23:21] german: hell no. don'Ät try that. you will make the mess worse. [22:23:24] a lot worse. [22:23:33] i've modified the default skin, and the background behind the action bar tabs (page, discussion, edit, etc.) now has a background and border. anyone know how i can remove them? [22:23:54] Aloha [22:25:33] 03brion * r32188 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/patchSql.php: [22:25:33] Handy script to manually run a single sql patch file, with all the necessary options expanded (prefix, charset, etc). [22:25:33] Commands like 'php maintenance/patchSql.php updatelog category' [22:27:04] duesentrieb: http://www.wiki.fithoch2.bwl.lmu.de/LocalSettings_without_mysql-data.txt [22:28:02] duesentrieb: the monobook skin which should be default didn't work after setup - so i even didn't change the localsettings.php at that time [22:28:15] german: what does the line startign with $wgDefaultSkin in your DefaultSettings.php say? [22:28:29] german: "didn't work" how? [22:28:41] it could have been just a problem with file permissions [22:28:50] 03(mod) Image caption is interpreted as a parameter (e.g. =?UTF-8?Q?=20when=20it=20ends=20with=20?==?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=9Cpx=E2=80=9D?=) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13436 +patch; +comment (10mormegil) [22:29:35] why does skins have so many IE fixes? [22:29:51] Maybe someone can help me ?! I looked in Google, FAQ and User Manual .. But there is really kind of NO information for that.. sadly.. : I enabled Uploads on the Wiki and try to upload a picture (.jpg, ~50kb) First i got a "File is empty" error, then i did some right-settings and so on but im now at the end of my wisdom .. i always get an "internal error" "cant create folder 'public/archive'" ! or without safe_mode 'public/3/36' (random) ... :( [22:29:51] german: ugh... you are using 1.6 :( [22:30:12] german: i can hardly even remember that thing [22:30:36] duesentrieb: $wgDefaultSkin = 'monobook'; [22:30:52] i updated the textfile with the whole data except mysql [22:31:17] you showed me localsettings. now i asked for defaultsettings. [22:31:20] duesentrieb: yes, 1.6 because of php - no 5.x version [22:31:24] moo: did you set the write file permissions on your upload directory [22:31:47] german: all i see is that it uses the standard skin, which seems to be working fine. [22:32:20] german: files used by monobook are accessible too: http://www.wiki.fithoch2.bwl.lmu.de/wiki/skins/monobook/main.css [22:32:38] JohnShep: i set the permissions on the images folder as well on the upload_tmp_dir folder which is set in the apache config [22:33:42] duesentrieb: http://www.wiki.fithoch2.bwl.lmu.de/DefaultSettings.txt - but i didn't touch it [22:34:08] german: uh... but you did *something* to the contents of your skins folder. [22:34:29] german: perhaps, MonoBook.php is a symlink? to Standard.php maybe? [22:34:31] moo: I don't think tmp_dir is the problem as AFIAK the system does not great folders there [22:34:49] moo: did you chmod the images directory ? [22:34:51] german: because *that* does not look normal: http://www.wiki.fithoch2.bwl.lmu.de/wiki/skins/MonoBook.php [22:35:02] german: there should be an error on that url, but not *that* error [22:35:13] I have problems installing Geshi. I get the following bug on my front page: "Warning: call_user_func_array() [function.call-user-func-array]: First argument is expected to be a valid callback, 'SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi::parserHook' was given in /mypath/wiki/includes/Parser.php on line 468" [22:35:20] german: enable all error reporting [22:35:23] !debug | german [22:35:23] --mwbot-- german: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [22:36:00] I am using "GeSHi 1.0.7.20" and SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi [22:36:15] peleg: what version of php? and mediawiki? [22:36:17] JohnShep: images folder has rights set to 666 (how evil^^) but i tested 777 as well [22:36:42] Moo: 666 on a folder is bad. folders should be executable. [22:36:51] moo: and the subdirectories archive thumb and temp ? [22:36:52] Duesentrieb: php 5.2.5 (cgi), MediaWiki: 1.6.10 [22:37:11] peleg: i don't think that extension will work with 1.6 [22:37:30] peleg: though that error does't sound like a mediawiki incompatibility... [22:37:43] peleg: why are you running an ancient version if you have php5? [22:37:50] JohnShep: made them myself (as written in the localsettings file) and set the rights with -R , so everything should and is fine there with 777 rights [22:38:05] Moo: do you have safemode off? [22:38:08] oh, now I see it needs media-wiki 1.10 ... [22:38:35] Duesentrieb: actually, I have no idea why. Do you consider upgrading as easy ? [22:38:43] yes [22:38:45] !upgrade [22:38:45] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [22:38:58] thanks [22:38:59] if all goes well, it's a matter of a couple of minutes [22:41:18] Duesentrieb : tried both, difference is just the way it wants to create the folders [22:41:36] 03raymond * r32189 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Localisation updates German [22:42:42] Moo: no, it always tried to create the same folder. and it will always fail in safe mode. ut maybe it fails even before that if safe mode is on. [22:43:12] Moo: check these: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads#Check_directory_security [22:43:56] moo: did you change wgUploadPath or wgUploadDirectory by any chance ? [22:45:16] JohnShep: Nope, just changed the "upload" settings to True [22:47:32] Hmm .. maybe its about the folder owner or Apache settings for my special site ... [22:49:34] moo: I think you might be right there could be something odd about your apache conf, the server trying to write to public/archive when it should be images/archive [22:52:25] Worth a try :) [22:54:13] 03(NEW) Concealing search results that are listed in robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13439 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (brian.mcneil) [22:55:33] 03(mod) Concealing search results that are listed in robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13439 (10brian.mcneil) [23:05:18] 03(mod) Concealing search results that are listed in robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13439 (10brion) [23:09:22] some probs in populateCategory [23:10:28] Yay. [23:10:37] Such as? [23:11:39] to all people who helped me - especially (!!!) duesentrieb: thank you very much and sorry for all that silly questions. now it works perfect. thank you so much for your time. [23:12:00] 03(mod) Concealing search results that are listed in robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13439 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [23:13:37] Hi, it would be appreciated if someone could assist me. I'm attempting to setup short urls on my wiki, the guide says to put your files in /w and your fake webroot (whatever yo uwant to call it as) /wiki like wikipedia does. Is it possible i could have my fake webroot as / ? Thanks [23:13:52] Despot, as it explicitly says, this is not recommended. [23:14:01] It's possible. The page has tutorials for how to do it. [23:14:18] Ah, I missed that bit [23:14:19] Thanks [23:19:50] 03brion * r32190 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUpload.php: fix regression in XHTML validity [23:20:14] 03brion * r32191 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/populateCategory.inc: if we get a bad cat, spit a warning and *continue* processing the rest of the wiki :) [23:21:14] brion, I got a bad category for some bogus reason when doing simple, but I fixed whatever the reason was. What caused the error? [23:21:30] I assumed that if I had no idea what could possibly go wrong, failing fast would be safer. [23:21:36] The category named :Sub-Sub-Category_Bleah_tst is not valid?! [23:21:51] No it bloody well isn't. [23:21:52] I think. [23:21:56] Is it? [23:22:09] no it's not :) [23:22:10] names can't start with ":" [23:22:13] prolly an old entry [23:22:28] but we should generally try to be tolerant of old broken entries [23:22:37] well, only in user space, if it is IPv6 ;) [23:22:48] Category population complete. [23:22:50] (on testwiki) [23:23:08] hopefully those don't break everywhere like before 1.11 [23:23:50] keep them fingahs crossed [23:24:07] ok i'm gonna scap this mothah and see what happens [23:24:20] but first i'm gonna open a php error log view :) [23:25:04] Wise. [23:25:54] Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_SL, expecting T_FUNCTION in /home/wikipedia/common/php-1.5/includes/SpecialUndelete.php on line 392 [23:25:55] :( [23:26:09] *ugh* a live hack conflict [23:26:12] i'll just revert it [23:26:26] ok scappin [23:26:58] brion: what should *we* look for, except keeping fingers crossed? [23:27:09] anything weird or broken with categories :D [23:27:20] Especially category pages, and adding/removing categories. [23:27:25] Like errors when saving pages. [23:27:30] Or weird stuff on category pages. [23:27:37] [23:27:42] that can't be right [23:27:50] nor [23:27:51] *Simetrical checks [23:27:56] http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jidysz [23:28:01] Maybe message files weren't scapped? [23:28:04] those look like missing MediaWiki: messages [23:28:31] The messages are in the message files. [23:28:49] that's a symptom of how stuff is configured [23:28:57] we should see if we can change that some time prolly [23:29:13] it'll show the right messages after the serialized message files are updated and scapped out [23:36:23] dum de dum [23:36:24] wheee [23:36:39] workses? [23:37:22] grrrr [23:37:25] somebody broke diffs [23:38:00] Mar 19 23:37:04 srv125 httpd[6216]: PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function getId() on a non-object in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/PageHistory.php on line 354 [23:38:03] lots of those [23:38:40] some of these: [23:38:41] Mar 19 23:37:14 srv115 httpd[14932]: PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function count() on a non-object in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/CategoryPage.php on line 487 [23:40:30] Simetrical: looks like it's checking $this->gallery->count in getCountMessage(), but $this->gallery isn't guaranteed to be set [23:43:39] 03brion * r32192 10/trunk/phase3/includes/PageHistory.php: fix regression in page history, where sometimes the last link would need to generate an 'oldid=prev' link but called a bogus variable [23:45:31] 03brion * r32193 10/trunk/phase3/includes/CategoryPage.php: hopefully don't die on non-gallery-laden pages which trigger this consistency check [23:49:29] brion: opps, forgot to rename that instance of that variable there [23:49:49] I guess this is why renaming is teh evil :( [23:50:11] It's not so evil if you have an IDE that will guarantee consistency. [23:50:26] If it had block S&R, I'd use that [23:50:34] So anyway, if that's the only problem with the category thing, I think it qualifies as a success. [23:50:41] Any ETA on running the population script? [23:51:46] i'll start it now :D [23:51:50] Yay! [23:52:19] I think this is the first major change I've made that I didn't just steal wholesale from someone else (cough sorttable) [23:52:21] . [23:52:28] Mostly I tweak stuff. [23:52:37] Or start on ambitious projects and then they die. [23:52:46] running........ [23:53:36] it'll be a while :D [23:53:48] well I got a lot of revisiondelete in, finally [23:54:02] yay [23:57:42] I'm not sure I understand the meaning of the new category messages. does "This category has the following 13 subcategories, out of 13 total." mean "This page shows 13 out of 13 subcategories for this category."? [23:58:14] *AaronSchulz trots off to en.labs and de.labs [23:59:22] ok, who inserted s into watchlist HTML?