when i do [[Image:xxx.xxx|center]]. I want to define . But i dont find this defination on files. Do you know which file printing

? [11:59:14] onur: uh, why would you want to do that? [11:59:37] messing with the source is generally not a good idea if you don't REALLY know what you are doing [12:00:38] Duesentrieb: my skin using center class for image. [12:00:51] It's not working when div class [12:01:57] damn, thats a pretty kickass tool. [12:02:04] onur: fix your skin then. [12:02:14] can it show you the inheritance of element properties? [12:02:18] *Zhinjio digs s'more. [12:02:40] Zhinjio: yes, vfery handy. make sure to disable it when not in use though. it makes some websites crawl (gmail was a prominent example, but i think that's fixed now). [12:03:29] Duesentrieb: noted. Thanks. [12:04:20] Zhinjio: it shows you all properties from all rules that apply, and where they are defined. I have not found a way to show what is inherited from parent elements, and how - but you can always select one parent node after the other and look at the properties. just click in the html on the left and watch css on the right. [12:04:33] oh, and note the "inspect" button. very handy. [12:04:56] the js console isn't bad either, but i like firebug most for the css stuff [12:14:45] 03(NEW) Request for New User Group to be created, to create account Requests. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13498 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (Thehelpfulonewiki) [12:14:54] Hi, anyone used the LDAP extension? [12:15:13] Does it just replace the original login system, or can it prevent users from viewing the wiki aswell? [12:15:30] What should file permissions be for /wiki/localsettings.php - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LocalSettings.php Doesn't actually give a precise value! 700 , 740, 744? [12:15:34] How do you secure your wiki in a enterprise enviroment? [12:16:54] If the Wiki is inside your firewall do you need more security to limit internal users from acessing the site? [12:17:07] We are a school, well actually 18 schools [12:17:13] and we want to prevent students from viewing it [12:17:23] atm. we use basic apache auth [12:17:47] We use the wiki for documentation of ICT [12:18:24] Have you looked at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/LDAP [12:18:31] yeah looking at now [12:18:39] But does it prevent users from viewing? [12:19:40] In that case I would use .htaccess on the wiki site with password protection and only the 'allowed' users have the username/password and that would be quick and simple [12:19:45] 03(mod) Request for New User Group to be created, to create account Requests. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13498 +comment (10stwalkerster) [12:19:56] Stephen: that is our current solution. [12:20:17] !access | Espenan [12:20:17] --mwbot-- Espenan: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [12:21:13] ah nice [12:24:40] hi there [12:24:55] is it possible to put raw html code in wiki pages? [12:25:16] !html [12:25:16] --mwbot-- For allowing any and all HTML, see . This is of course VERY DANGEROUS. Safer options include , and . [12:25:37] !localsettings.php [12:25:37] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "localsettings.php". You might try: !conf !config !errors !extranamespace !javascript !logo !newusergroup !subpages !tidyforidiots !uploads [12:25:41] !localsettings [12:25:41] --mwbot-- All configuration is done in LocalSettings.php (near the end of the file). Editing other files means modifying the software. Default settings are not in LocalSettings.php, you can look in DefaultSettings.php. See , , [12:26:15] This is the correct way to comment something out? [12:26:16] [12:27:48] yeah, the top level Common.css seems to control each and every link, so that was very easy. [12:27:52] Thanks again, folks. [12:28:31] 03(NEW) Type:Number doesn't pass unit to service links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13499 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (info) [12:31:23] !tias | Scream [12:31:23] --mwbot-- Scream: Try it and see. You learn much more by experimentation than by asking without having even tried. [12:37:08] thanks Duesentrieb, and mwbot :) [12:37:09] does someone know anything about using sqllite with mediawiki ? [12:37:57] vi390: yes. it's not supported. [12:38:30] Duesentrieb: not even with extensions ? [12:39:00] nope [12:39:58] ok thanks [12:41:53] vi390: I'd quite like to see it happen though, but probably no one is going to do it for a while if ever. [12:42:46] 03raymond * r32405 10/trunk/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Localisation updates German [12:43:42] 03(mod) Request for New User Group to be created, to create account Requests. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13498 +comment (10Thehelpfulonewiki) [12:44:25] what are the chances of upgrading from 1.3.5 to 1.12 successfully? [12:44:42] <^demon> 1.3.5 to 1.12? [12:44:49] ya [12:45:21] *1.3.6 [12:45:49] <^demon> I've never tried that big of an upgrade...1.5 was a major change, so you might try pushing to 1.5.x first, then go higher. I'm not entirely sure though. [12:47:02] ok. today is the first time ive looked at any wikimedia files, but i've been asked to upgrade the company's wiki. lol. ill try to 1.5 first [12:47:58] i understand the database structure changed quite a bit - are there tools to migrate the data, or must it be done manually? [12:48:38] rewolf: take a backup first (like you would for any upgrade) and go straight to 1.12 [12:48:44] What are the 'best practices' for file permissions for /wiki/localsettings.php - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LocalSettings.php Doesn't actually give a precise value! 700 , 740, 744? [12:48:56] the upgrade procedure will update the database automatically [12:49:14] Stephen: the most restrictive that allow the user mediawiki runs as to access it. (and it doesn't need to be executable) [12:49:21] i'd try to use mwdumper to grab an xml dump first. safeguard against the charset messup [12:49:32] charset conversion will probably be needed, and that is not automatic [12:49:51] 1.3 supported utf-8, didn't it? [12:50:21] yes, but it wasn't the default [12:50:25] i don't think many people used it [12:50:29] So 'Owner' Read (i.e 400) would be sufficient [12:50:34] why would anyone not seleect it? ;) [12:50:42] Stephen: if it's owned by the user mediawiki runs as, then yes [12:51:10] you want to be able to serve raw files too [12:51:17] so if the apache user is different from the php user... [12:51:18] Thanks FlyingParchment - I'll set it at 400 Thanks [12:51:29] ah, localsettings [12:51:31] sorry. [13:03:21] 03mkroetzsch * r32406 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_Number.php: Supply unit information for service links (Bug 13499) [13:03:50] 03(FIXED) Type:Number doesn't pass unit to service links - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13499 (10mak) [13:09:55] 03(mod) sidebar rendered over wiki content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12357 (10marz2k) [13:11:46] 03(mod) sidebar rendered over wiki content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12357 (10marz2k) [13:19:05] How would one tranclude a page section via relative path, sans categories or section headers? [13:21:23] as in, {{:foo{{{1}}}#Events}} [13:31:43] 03(mod) add DOM friendly importScript and importStylesheet functions into wikibits .js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13232 (10hartman) [13:31:55] VonSchmut, you can't do this. [13:36:44] NicDumZ: Not even via #relabs:? [13:37:14] I don't know about that function. [13:53:02] 03yaron * r32407 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticCalendar/includes/SC_ParserFunctions.php: Added 'isHTML' => 'true' to parser function [13:53:19] 03yaron * r32408 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticCalendar/ (INSTALL includes/SC_GlobalFunctions.php): New version: 0.2.2 [13:53:58] *VonSchmut curses profusely [13:55:52] i would like to write a special: page with progressive display (using php flush). are there already existing examples of that ? [13:57:29] ThomasV: that would very much mess with how mediawiki handles page output. you'd have to bypass the skin completly [13:58:19] Duesentrieb: I was hoping there would be a method that calls flush [13:58:45] there's nothing to flush until the page is finished to render [13:58:55] hmm [13:59:24] in that case I guess it might be easier to use javascript [14:06:05] If we used a non-PHP skin system that used syntax such as {{{body-content}}} instead of html( 'body-content' ) ?> then theoretically OutputPage could explode( '{{{body-content}}}', $theme ) and then just output the first half and everytime flush is called output everthing that hasn't been until execution ends when the second half is output. [14:07:28] You want more parsing? [14:08:04] 03(NEW) Improper scaling of images sized with "px" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13500 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (jonnymt) [14:08:06] well the {{{}}} syntax would just be a simple find and replace [14:08:21] or near enough [14:08:45] MinuteElectron: implementing a template language for generating html in php is plain silly imho. [14:08:48] that's what php *is* [14:08:53] ok [14:08:58] that's way too complicated for me now [14:09:06] php standas for "PHP Hypertext Processor" after all :) [14:26:40] 03(mod) Improper scaling of images sized with "px" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13500 +comment (10tstarling) [14:31:37] 03(mod) {{PAGELENGTH}} magic word - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13483 summary (10roan.kattouw) [14:41:12] HOw is it reccomended that extensions include stylesheets? $wgOut->addStyle hardcoes $wgStylePath forcing the file to be in that directory even though it would be more suited in the extensions directory? [14:41:55] 03siebrand * r32412 10/trunk/extensions/ (37 files in 35 dirs): * Message style updates (by Jon Harald Soby) [14:48:34] why isn't there a 'restore all' for deleted revs? [14:49:01] VonSchmut, there is [14:49:11] just don't match any checkbox [14:49:26] oh, right :) [14:59:22] what is that creates an empty page? __END__? something like that? [14:59:30] [14:59:56] hi is david pean or aaron wright connected? :p [15:01:32] Hi folks. I'm having issues with special characters in a mediawiki setup I'm running. [15:03:30] When I start a page and fill it with, say katakana or whatever, it'll display nicely. But when I then what to edit it, I only get ???? [15:03:57] link? [15:04:22] Platonides: in's in my companies intranet. [15:04:38] And I'm suspecting some breakage with the creation of the databse. [15:05:15] I just tested the same on a different server [also intranet, but running on Debian, not on Solaris] and it seems to work out just fine there. [15:05:36] a Solaris bug? [15:05:53] it could be related to mysql table language encoding [15:06:27] Platonides: yah, because the database is basically.. hand-made.... [15:06:52] are you using binary latin1 ? [15:08:40] | wikidb | CREATE DATABASE `wikidb` /*!40100 DEFAULT CHARACTER SET utf8 */ | [15:08:47] Platonides: looks fine to me. [15:08:53] the character set should be latin1 binary [15:09:31] 14(WFM) "Premature end of section headers" in api.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13496 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [15:09:58] What's wrong with UTF-8? - I used UTF-8 on Debian machine it works out there pretty fine. [15:10:12] mediawiki doesn't use mysql's utf-8 support, because it doesn't work properly [15:10:26] (and it didn't exist in older versions) [15:10:48] I see. [15:11:26] Is there any chance of fixing this without breaking it, completely and utterly? [15:17:52] you could use mediawiki's newer support for utf8 tables [15:18:09] although in your case i'd probably delete and start from scratch [15:18:38] Platonides: I have quite a lot of data in this wiki..... [15:19:02] i thought it was a new one [15:19:11] didn't you have this problem at the beginning? [15:20:07] Platonides: newly migrated [15:21:07] then you can migrate it again [15:21:28] it'll be easier than fixing it [15:21:48] Bleh, I was hoping for an option that will support my lazyness. [15:22:38] 03(NEW) Bug in the search of wikipedia accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13501 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (deep_silence_fr) [15:23:42] So.. dump, drop, create database wikidb DEFAULT CHARACTER SET latin1 binary, import, and be done with it...? [15:24:05] probably [15:24:10] how did you migrate it? [15:24:17] !help migrate [15:24:17] --mwbot-- Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot >, you can find all my source code at < http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn >. A dump is now available at < http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html > [15:24:46] Platonides: pretty much like that - before being done with it, I ran php maintenance/upgrade.php [15:24:53] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Backup [15:31:36] 03catrope * r32413 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQueryInfo.php): API: Adding inprop=talkid,subjectid to prop=info [15:32:19] domas? [15:32:31] 03siebrand * r32414 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (24 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-03-25 15:24 CET) [15:34:02] 03siebrand * r32415 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHu.php: Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki [15:34:29] Platonides: http://yoonkit.blogspot.com/2006/03/mysql-charset-from-latin1-to-utf8.html "... and repeat ad infinitum..." [15:36:17] 03catrope * r32416 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryInfo.php: Correcting slight mistake in r32413 [15:36:58] 03siebrand * r32417 10/trunk/extensions/ (37 files in 36 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-03-25 16:24 CET) [15:42:37] AaronSchulz? [15:42:46] domas: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=usercontribs&ucuserprefix=64. [15:42:59] Platonides: the 'problem' is, that show create table ; shows character set latin1 collate latin1_bin NOT NULL default and ) ENGINE=InnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1 etc, so I would want to assume that it.. works. [15:43:02] some of these queries are kind of slow, even the examples [15:44:04] api.php?action=query&list=deletedrevs&drdir=newer&drlimit=50&drnamespace=14|15 [15:44:11] that just dies [15:44:43] 03(mod) "Premature end of script headers" in api.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13496 summary; +comment (10roan.kattouw) [15:45:22] AaronSchulz: should I disable api? [15:45:41] =) [15:45:43] the prefix needs to be bumped, or maybe depend on misermode [15:46:07] did people realize they can use estimations [15:46:13] that second query is just fucked up [15:46:17] and reject operation in case too many rows are there? [15:46:19] domas: I use estimates for CU [15:46:27] AaronSchulz: can you add estimates to that one too? [15:46:29] no longer times out anymore [15:46:54] *AaronSchulz has made like 1 api commit, and that was a tiny fix [15:47:03] I'd have to get familiar with it [15:47:26] I made like 1, and it was // [15:47:27] ;-) [15:47:35] 03catrope * r32418 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiBase.php): API: Added help text message that specifies whether a module is POST-only [15:47:51] domas: why is that second one dying? [15:48:01] *AaronSchulz wonders what the hell it is doing [15:48:15] even with just one namespace, it is hanging, so that's not it [15:48:44] domas: which wouldn't be as terrible if it wasn't an example on the API mainpage [15:48:54] ;) [15:50:05] AaronSchulz, worksforme . . . http://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=deletedrevs&drdir=newer&drlimit=50&drnamespace=14|15 [15:50:14] Maybe there are just too many on enwiki? [15:50:18] No, it has a limit. [15:50:31] Probably it's trying to use ORDER BY ... LIMIT without a proper index. [15:50:36] Filesorting the whole result set, yay. [15:50:57] yay, works on MW.org [15:51:03] *yay/yeah [15:51:03] <^demon> This is always fun: not allowing me to view deleted revisions on enwiki. [15:51:51] Simetrical: btw, "worksforme" is best when referring to the same thing ;) [15:51:56] *AaronSchulz goes to his testwiki [15:52:01] AaronSchulz, it's probably running SELECT * FROM archive WHERE ar_namespace=14 ORDER BY ar_timestamp;. [15:52:05] Or something like that. [15:52:20] yeah, I see timestamp paging params [15:52:22] The index is on (ar_namespace, ar_title, ar_timestamp), you can't skip the middle part. [15:52:25] so that would explain [15:52:34] It's filesorting the result set before applying the limit. [15:52:36] *Simetrical rolls eyes [15:52:42] domas: :D [15:52:47] how many rows is that? [15:53:27] You don't have a toolserver account? [15:53:35] oh wait, I do :) [15:53:48] 03(mod) Email notification reject - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13450 (10mrzmanwiki) [15:53:50] mysql> EXPLAIN SELECT COUNT(*) FROM archive WHERE ar_namespace=14; [15:53:51] +----+-------------+---------+------+----------------------+----------------------+---------+-------+---------+-------------+ [15:53:51] | id | select_type | table | type | possible_keys | key | key_len | ref | rows | Extra | [15:53:51] +----+-------------+---------+------+----------------------+----------------------+---------+-------+---------+-------------+ [15:53:52] | 1 | SIMPLE | archive | ref | name_title_timestamp | name_title_timestamp | 4 | const | 1029924 | Using index | [15:53:55] Simetrical: how would it apply a limit before sorting? that's not possible... [15:53:55] +----+-------------+---------+------+----------------------+----------------------+---------+-------+---------+-------------+ [15:53:58] That was too long. [15:54:00] Oh well. [15:54:06] Duesentrieb, yes it is, if you're doing sorted retrieval from an index. [15:54:25] in that case no filesorting should happen at all [15:54:32] Yes, precisely. [15:54:50] SELECT ... FROM archive WHERE ar_user_text='Simetrical' ORDER BY ar_timestamp DESC LIMIT 50; will only look at 50 rows. [15:55:02] Because there's an index on (ar_user_text, ar_timestamp). [15:55:28] But you can't retrieve by namespace and sort by date, it's too large a result set. You're filesorting a million rows. [15:55:45] Because there's no (ar_namespace, ar_timestamp) index. [15:56:00] And even if they were it would fail for ar_namespace IN (14,15), although you could evade that somewhat with UNION. [15:57:48] hmm, too many titles [15:59:47] oh god, do namespace=0 [16:00:01] Mwahaha. [16:00:18] Or 0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8... it would just sort the whole table. [16:00:30] | const | 8704885 | Using where; Using index | [16:00:31] 17,000,000 rows. [16:00:44] for articles [16:00:57] AaronSchulz, that means that for the actual query, where it has to hit the data, it's going to just do a table scan. [16:01:00] <^demon> Note to self: play with API more. [16:01:25] Because it's like half the table already, it's insane to retrieve that many from index, way too many seeks. [16:02:19] 03raymond * r32419 10/trunk/extensions/SiteMatrix/ (SiteMatrix.i18n.php SiteMatrix_body.php): [16:02:19] * Follow up for r32286: Add new message to i18n file too [16:02:19] * Add a CSS id to the table, use some more nice XML functions [16:11:53] 03(NEW) Add Hungarian localization for the servers unavailable error message - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13502 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (gtisza) [16:17:19] OMFGWTFBBQ [16:17:37] How do I make it so users must eb logged in to edit. seems they'd put this inthe docs somewhere natural [16:17:52] oh wait, it's in the wiki [16:17:53] lol [16:44:57] hiya jimbojw [16:45:19] hello snowolf [17:01:49] 03(mod) compress javascript output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12250 +comment (10seventowers) [17:07:49] 03(mod) Create the Hungarian Wikinews, Erzya & Extremaduran & Gan Wikipedia, and Japanese Wikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13264 (10reg) [17:12:27] <^demon> If anyone knows where the bug on creating a special page to list IW links is, I'd be grateful. [17:12:35] <^demon> Want to close it, as I've just whipped up an extension to do that. [17:13:45] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6628 [17:14:48] 03(mod) compress (obfuscate) javascript output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12250 summary; +comment (10brion) [17:15:03] <^demon> That's the one that deals with editing it (and there's already an extension for it). There's another request that just wants an extension to view the table (ie: so enwiki users can see the available list from a specialpage) [17:15:16] i think it's the one listed there [17:15:33] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3745 [17:16:05] 03(mod) compress ("minify"/obfuscate) javascript output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12250 summary (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [17:16:19] <^demon> Ah, 3745. [17:16:24] <^demon> That's what I wanted. [17:16:27] 03(mod) Improper scaling of images sized with "px" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13500 (10brion) [17:21:04] I ADDED NEW FEATURE [17:22:35] <^demon> yay [17:23:59] CIA: wtf?! [17:24:19] !!! [17:24:19] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "!!". [17:24:23] 03(mod) Improper scaling of images sized with "px" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13500 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [17:24:32] domas: It didn't come through to mediawiki-cvs either yet/ [17:24:39] spoke too soon :\ [17:24:56] It was a whole 29 lines! [17:25:01] And highly useful for users! [17:25:41] yup! [17:25:52] I was using it in slightly other form for years :) [17:29:40] lol [17:29:46] new huge regression in mediawiki [17:30:12] you guys won't guess where [17:30:13] muahaha [17:31:31] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Opensearch-desc&action=edit [17:32:05] and this is from #wikimedia-tech [17:32:05] [19:31] domas WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS TO ME [17:32:25] bwahaha [17:32:40] brion: WAS THAT YOU? [17:32:53] i believe it was [17:33:19] brion: you realize, that this adds quite a few milliseconds to every page load, right? :) [17:33:26] *^demon hides [17:33:36] domas: maybe you could help make it more efficient? :) [17:34:07] <^demon> oops...what do you know.... [17:34:11] <^demon> Already fixed. [17:34:14] brion: sure, make a maintenance script, that after every upgrade replaces all {{dynamicbits}} into static ones [17:34:53] domas, why not cache the pseudo-dynamic ones like {{SITENAME}}? [17:34:56] in every stupid top-X interface message [17:35:05] Or rather cache the parsed version of the interface message. [17:35:07] Simetrical: cache where? how? [17:35:14] we don't want yet another layer of text handling, do we? [17:35:27] why do we have to cache the parsed version, if it never changes anyway? [17:35:32] We don't? I thought we loved to add more of those wherever possible. [17:35:43] that cache already exists [17:35:49] Well, that's usually what you want to cache, right? The stuff that doesn't change much? [17:35:55] No point caching something that changes every second. [17:36:07] mediawiki:pagetitle too [17:36:37] Things like this may change from time to time on some wikis, although not usually Wikimedia ones. [17:37:02] and your tooltip code sucks too [17:37:16] used to be nice single blob [17:37:17] :) [17:37:22] *domas frowns [17:37:44] domas: if you want to do a shitty temporary hack, change it to '$1 - $2' with the two parameters being the sitename and language code [17:38:06] that'll give a compatible default which can still be fully customized [17:38:32] there're more messages like that [17:38:33] bah [17:38:36] domas, the old tooltip code was horrible. Why don't you give us some way to batch-load messages from memcached if you're so annoyed by all the extra calls? Then it will be a nice blob again. [17:38:38] pagetitle and such [17:38:52] Simetrical: you understand how batch-load works from memcached, right? :) [17:38:58] Nope! [17:39:04] say, you ask for 50 keys [17:39:10] it will go to 50 different servers ;-) [17:39:28] Well, so fix memcached. :) [17:39:36] actually, it doesn't go to memcached [17:39:38] 03(mod) Request for New User Group to be created, to create account Requests. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13498 (10tra.wiki) [17:40:38] Simetrical: try my new mediawiki extension [17:40:54] Special:Electroshock? [17:41:04] profilersimpletext :) [17:41:14] it is very worthy to keep it enabled on development machines [17:41:26] How does it work? [17:41:59] prints profile at bottom of pages ;-) [17:42:05] Nice. [17:42:24] Is there some nice config option to turn it on? [17:42:37] profilers are loaded before configuration [17:42:45] at the top of the file it tells what to put where :) [17:44:09] domas, "Strict Standards: Non-static method ProfilerSimpleText::sort() cannot be called statically, assuming $this from compatible context ProfilerSimpleText in /var/www/trunk/phase3/includes/ProfilerSimpleText.php on line 17" [17:44:41] mmmm [17:44:48] can set 'static' [17:45:18] 03(mod) SVG text-decoration (including underlining) doesn't render - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13495 (10brion) [17:45:38] <^demo1> Blasted cingular card. [17:45:40] My development wiki is highly representative! 5.804307 32 - Database::query [17:45:51] 5.8?!!? [17:46:01] 0.006451 10 - Database::query [17:46:02] =) [17:46:36] domas, 1928 mysql 20 0 95828 23m 5276 S 0 1.1 0:34.45 mysqld [17:46:55] huh [17:46:56] Hi... is there a way to include a list of items in a certain categorie in an article? Something like MyCategory? [17:46:58] must have been sleeping [17:47:14] <^demon> yankee: Use DynamicPageList. [17:47:24] domas, dev machine == desktop [17:47:30] *Simetrical frowns at 23 MB RAM usage [17:47:50] uses 5MB here [17:48:00] allocated 150MB though [17:48:09] huh [17:48:11] Mine is probably configured for 8 MB InnoDB buffer. \o/ [17:48:13] I have 8 mysqlds running [17:48:14] :) [17:48:21] 03(mod) internal link selection resizes table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13497 (10brion) [17:48:28] on my desktop [17:49:15] Oh, yes, I forgot to decrease it. Only decreased for MyISAM. key_buffer = 1M [17:50:14] 03(mod) Improper scaling of images sized with "pxpx" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13500 summary (10brion) [17:50:17] 0.031497 26 - Database::query [17:50:20] That looks a little better. [17:50:41] Not sure this is real helpful, though. :D [17:50:45] I'm looking for a server side scripting extension for mediawiki that will allow me to execute a script when a user tries to save an edited page to do complex assertions on template variables. Is there something like that already, or is it just a matter of tying into the right extension hook and executing the script from php? [17:50:50] Wikipedia charts are a little more germane. [17:51:09] Yowan, what sort of complex assertion? [17:53:41] Well, for example preventing illegal 'moves' (template variable differences between the last and edited version) in the chess diagram template, Simetrical [17:53:54] That *is* pretty complex. [17:54:03] Sounds like a job for an extension to me. [17:54:26] [25-Mar-2008 12:53:48] PHP Fatal error: Class 'DOMDocument' not found in /var/w [17:54:26] ww/w/includes/Preprocessor_DOM.php on line 567 [17:54:27] Damn. [17:54:30] Uh. [17:54:44] [simetrical@odin w]$ php --version [17:54:44] PHP 5.1.6 (cli) (built: Sep 12 2007 11:11:52) [17:55:04] How do I fix this? [17:55:25] I don't know who to inform, but the DOMDocument class is not standard with php 5.1.6, at least--as per the redhat package. Thus, mediawiki fails to work by default, after a successful install. [17:55:48] Simetrical: install xml support for php [17:55:56] php5-xml or something like that [17:56:06] It's not default on Red Hat, yeah. Maybe not a great idea here. [17:56:20] redhat package really exists [17:56:20] <^demon> Someone was complaining about that yesterday. [17:56:24] Someone gave me a solution to this, yesterday that did work fine: $wgParserConf['preprocessorClass'] = 'Preprocessor_Hash'; [17:56:26] 'not default on redhat'? [17:56:41] solifugus: must have been Tim :) [17:56:45] Well, not default installed with the PHP package. [17:56:50] domas [17:56:52] yes.. it was me [17:56:57] It's a separate package. [17:57:00] Simetrical: is php5-mysql package installed by default? [17:57:02] fwiw, I was able to get 1.12.0 into a fc7 RPM.. seems to be working fine :) [17:57:09] *domas: me [17:57:16] domas, doubt it, but this isn't installed with it either way. [17:57:32] We should do RPMs for the releases. And DEBs. [17:57:35] *Simetrical looks at brion [17:58:04] Yay, my site's custom skin broke somehow! [17:58:15] I asked last week about the default search and changing it to search all, or certain namespaces I specify and someone linked me something but I can't get it working. Anyone had any experience with this? I have installed the namespace manager extension and created many custom namespaces for orginizational purposes, but when you search it only searches the main namespace. [17:58:16] aww [17:58:21] ialex: ha! [17:58:26] $wgParserConf['preprocessorClass'] ?? Since when does MediaWiki have this? [17:58:35] lch: 1.12? :) [17:58:45] munda: if you scroll to the bottom of the search screen you'll see all those checkboxes [17:58:46] right :) [17:58:50] the default state is settable in user prefs [17:58:57] the default user prefs are settable in a global variable [17:59:04] you can see the default of that in DefaultSettings.php [17:59:30] that explains things, I'm still on 1.11 [17:59:40] sweet [18:00:21] Oh, now it works. Magic! [18:00:22] derwin: I am using RHEL 5, php 5.1.6 installed.. Fedora could be different. [18:00:35] <^demon> brion: Tuesday can't be bug day too? [18:00:47] :D [18:00:51] has somebody got the Math/LaTeX plugin working with SELinux enabled? [18:01:06] Which wfMsg function do I use to get my message parsed by the parser? [18:01:24] MinuteElectron: wfMsgExt [18:01:26] with appropriate options [18:01:27] thanks [18:01:31] like 'parse' or 'parseinline' [18:01:36] note also $wgOut->addWikiMsg() [18:01:39] I think wfMsgWikiHTML also works. [18:01:40] ^demon: YOU ARE A BASTARD [18:01:54] Is there an example somewhere of a drupal-style top LocalSettings.php file? [18:02:08] I am trying to setup a farm [18:02:10] ^demon: I violate zillion policies, make myself sysop, just to find that you already fixed stuff on enwiki. [18:02:19] > User::newFromName("Midom")->addGroup("sysop"); [18:02:20] :((( [18:02:41] > User::newFromName("Midom")->removeGroup("sysop"); [18:02:45] no audit trail! :) [18:02:51]