[00:02:06] 04(REOPENED) Add {{GRAMMAR}} to Polish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11837 +comment (10danny.leinad) [00:09:02] I'm getting the following error when trying to update my mediawiki, but I always get this error when running #php update.php: Fatal error: Cannot redeclare wfprofilein() [00:26:47] 03(mod) Character insertion box should have titles for the characters - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3550 +comment (10mjeske) [01:19:00] 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats on Meta-wiki to remove rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13509 (10lilewyn) [01:55:31] Is there a WYSIWYG editor anyone can reccomend? Even a third party one? I've tried googling but no good info. [01:55:54] !wysiwyg | sprax [01:55:54] --mwbot-- sprax: What You See Is What You Get editors allow you to create articles and see the text formatting without needing to Show Preview. A list of wysiwyg editor extensions may be found at . [01:57:28] Cool, thanks [01:58:08] 03(mod) Paragraph splits and moves not identified in diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5072 +comment (10scmcc) [02:01:10] Now this one is a little more tough. I need a way to easily store and edit tables, spread sheet style. But I would like the rows and columns to be recalled with a template some how. For example, if I have a list of computers for rows, and software packages for columns, when I click a software package I want to display the article for the package and the list of computers which had an "x" for that column [02:01:25] If you haven't allready guessed, I'm trying to setup a knowledge base for an IT shop [02:02:07] The idea would be that the article for 'acme proprietary ware' has a list of computers which it is authorized to be installed on [02:02:17] and any computer has a list of it's authorized applications [02:02:35] I thought about doing it with categories, but the maintenance sounds like a nightmare [02:03:13] I'm fairly competent with php and think I could probably write it myself, but if there is allready a reccomended practice, I'd love to hear it [02:39:09] how do I edit the side bar for my wiki? [02:40:01] nslater: the page mediawiki:sidebar [02:41:37] ooh, thanks [02:41:44] !sidebar [02:41:44] --mwbot-- To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [02:42:36] hmm, I just did that, the mediawiki:sidebar now contains no sidebar, but the front page still does [02:42:38] any ideas? [02:42:49] http://www.couchdbwiki.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar [02:42:53] http://www.couchdbwiki.com/ [02:43:05] do new pages contain a sidebar? [02:43:13] ie, pages which would not be in your cache? [02:43:15] (to explain, I deleted the contents of the sidebar) [02:43:30] the sidebar is part of the interface [02:43:32] oh, no... [02:43:41] how long does the cache last? [02:44:11] the cache should be purged upon each edit [02:44:18] if not use ?action=purge [02:44:53] yay, that worked, thanks [02:45:03] one more question, sorry, how do I get a list of all the pages? [02:46:09] Special:Allpages [02:46:20] thank you! [02:50:26] is there any variable to show the user interface language? [03:02:41] Danny_B: yes. [03:03:09] var wgUserLanguage = "en"; is available to javascript, so I assume it's $wgUserLanguage in PHP [03:03:42] Random832: well, i meant in wikitext such as {{CURRENTDAY}} etc are... [03:04:00] I don't believe so [03:04:16] for the same reason there's no {{YOURUSERNAME}} [03:04:18] Danny_B, $wgLang [03:04:23] Oh, wikitext. [03:04:24] No. [03:04:25] Of course not. [03:04:27] *Simetrical goes to bed [03:05:00] Simetrical: in theory there's no reason - it won't interfere with caching for logged-in users any more than date preferences do, and for non-logged in, it's invariant per URL (since &uselang=... makes a different URL) [03:06:02] Danny_B: meta uses javascript for its magic in welcome messages. [03:06:31] see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Random832 [03:06:45] that's not exactly what i'm looking for [03:06:50] i know that trick [03:07:02] what are you looking for then? [03:07:20] anyway, i can override it using {{int:}} then ;-) [03:07:30] what are you trying to do? [03:07:49] show the page in user prefered lang [03:07:59] you can't do that with javascript like the welcome message? [03:08:25] not a question if i can't. i don't want to since it's hella nasty [03:08:36] where exactly are you trying to do this? [03:09:08] couple places. nvm, i'll use {{int:}} for that [03:24:27] I have a question regarding the Renameuser extension, it seems to be crashing my wiki, causing all pages to be blank when the extension is installed. Anyone who could enlighten me? [03:27:14] Anyone> [03:42:30] check your localsettings.php line what you add [03:42:43] and var.log/errorlog [03:43:00] oo he has gone [03:43:45] Nice, Suisuisui [03:44:34] heh [03:44:37] It's important to ask a question, and then leave if you don't an answer in 250 milliseconds. [03:44:44] get* [03:45:17] thoo short :D [03:47:35] Too long [03:47:51] lol [04:04:57] 03(mod) Create Wikimania 2009 website - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13547 (10e.wikipedia) [04:11:14] k4jcw: to be fair, he waited six minutes, and wasn't answered for another twelve. [04:17:01] OK [04:17:03] *Enterprise_Cat is back [04:19:34] hi [04:19:46] http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B5%D9%81%D8%AD%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D8%A6%D9%8A%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A9 [04:19:57] how should i configure wimedia to set it for right to left script script like here ? [04:20:48] Random832: OK, what should I do? [04:23:14] 23:43 < Suisuisui> check your localsettings.php line what you add [04:23:14] 23:44 < Suisuisui> and var.log/errorlog [04:23:54] IbrahimZ: it's a css thing [04:24:10] I don't see var.log [04:24:28] I added to localsettings.php: require_once( "{$IP}/extensions/Renameuser/SpecialRenameuser.php" ) [04:24:43] put ; [04:25:32] D'OH [04:25:41] /var/log [04:26:11] you could see php error on var/log [04:26:16] (I hope) [04:26:38] Ahh, now it works [04:26:50] Damn, I wish all the php pages explained install directories as good as the CURL page [04:27:39] /var: No such file or directory [04:27:57] O_o... blasphemy! [04:28:16] Although it works fine now, thanks [04:28:30] Random832, since i see this in this page, i think that it should be some configuration too , or not ? [04:28:34] Well, if you're trying to run a server on windoze... you'll need to track down the logs yourself [04:29:56] ^_^ I think this will be my third experimental PHP compile today... [04:30:06] enjoy MediaWiki :) [04:30:15] Damn, just testing out possible configuration takes painfully long [04:30:37] ^_^ Can't wait till I have it setup so I have to compile php twice just to upgrade... rofl [04:30:59] heh... and eAccelerator hasn't even entered the picture yet [04:32:26] eAccelereator .. is it works well on single server? [04:32:35] IbrahimZ: yeah maybe. i don't know [04:32:47] Hmm [04:32:53] I can't access Special:Allmessages [04:32:55] Random832, thanks [04:33:04] why? i didn't help much [04:33:13] *Random832 clueless [04:33:22] Doesn't matter what kind of setup you have (Unless you're using old cgi instead of fastcgi, or just using cli, or don't have visitors) eAccelerator normally cuts times in half [04:33:41] Suisuisui: I can't access Special:Allmessages now [04:35:42] hm? [04:35:52] what about other pages? [04:36:21] Special pages are not loading [04:36:24] All others are [04:36:46] Rather, Special pages are loading very slowly [04:36:55] But Special:Allmessages is simply loading with a blank screen [04:37:27] can you see Special:specialpages ? [04:37:41] Suisuisui: Yes [04:39:49] hms [04:40:17] Suisuisui: Should I provide a link to the wiki? [04:41:09] you better to try find error.log as I think :D [04:41:50] Random832, in LocalSettings.php setting $wgLanguageCode = "ar"; instead of "en" and all is rigth to left now :) [04:42:33] ok [04:42:54] hmm, that implies, to me, that mediawiki maintains an intrinsic knowledge of what languages are rtl [04:42:58] is that correct? [04:43:36] Suisuisui: Where would this file be? [04:43:36] yes Random832 [04:44:01] it's blog to your os/apache settings [04:44:36] if you use windows, it shold be under program files¥apache [04:44:44] Suisuisui: I am running on a shared host [04:44:50] oh [04:45:10] Suisuisui: eh? [04:45:21] "program files(J\(Bapache" [04:45:30] is your irc client using some kind of ISO 2022 coding? [04:45:38] yes [04:45:48] I'm Japanese ;) [04:45:54] ah [04:46:28] your client can't be set to only use that in japanese channels, and use latin1 or utf8 where appropriate in english-speaking channels? [04:47:54] I use xchat so I can set utf-8, but it need to new server tab and new connection to freenode, it's not smart and I'm lesy ;) [04:48:40] ah [04:48:48] i thought you could set it per-room [04:48:49] Enterprise_Cat: your host dosent have a log folder? [04:48:57] it's not :( [04:49:17] Suisuisui: No, at least I can't access it [04:49:40] okk then all we can do is just gussing [04:50:27] Allmesseges have a javascript, and the page is heavy [04:51:21] can you see php settings? [04:51:36] use [04:51:47] Where do I use that? [04:52:28] make a newfile phpinfo.php [04:52:52] just put in the file [04:52:52] And paste that in the file? [04:52:57] yup [04:53:02] and see it [04:53:08] *Dantman prefers to use on your browser [04:53:25] oh yes ack my ; was stripped out [04:53:49] And the ?> isn't needed [04:54:03] ^_^ Excess bytes, rofl [04:55:28] Suisuisui: I see a readout [04:56:17] find html_errors first , is it on? [04:56:51] Suisuisui: Yes [04:57:37] ok [04:57:49] next is memory_limit [04:58:04] 16M [04:58:18] ooh too short.. [04:58:19] Suisuisui: ^ [04:58:22] oh [04:58:40] Suisuisui: How would I fix it? [05:01:03] no, you need more explore is it real problem or not [05:02:13] Suisuisui: OK [05:04:36] chacking something.. [05:06:29] can you make a big page ? [05:06:43] such as 100kb or more [05:08:25] Uhh [05:08:29] I guess [05:08:37] hm [05:08:43] try it [05:13:08] Suisuisui: Succesfully created and subsequently edited a 191KB page [05:13:45] okk [05:13:49] for settinf our own logo how should i do ? [05:15:12] IbrahmZ: it's a FAQ, so find FAQ is better now [05:15:41] Enterprise_Cat; so, it may be some other problem.. [05:16:28] hmm [05:17:02] *Dantman contemplates how evil it would be to /nick !wg [05:17:35] did you install mediawiki with your_mediawiki-path/config ? [05:18:22] Suisuisui: Yes [05:18:58] so your php exec time limit is ok. maybe [05:19:43] and you all did are only edit localsettings.php [05:19:45] ? [05:20:02] Suisuisui: And install extensions, yes [05:21:14] ok [05:21:39] how about index.php?title=Special:Allmessages&ot=xml [05:22:32] note it blank page is somewhat php execute is suspended or php error [05:30:14] Suisuisui: That worked [05:31:33] ooh then your Special:Allmessage.php is works [05:33:39] ok try to Special:llAllmesages?purge=1 [05:37:02] Suisuisui: Didn't work [05:37:55] ok last one [05:38:03] clear your browse cache [05:38:11] browser [05:41:47] Clearing cache [05:42:16] Dosen't work [05:43:13] so.. it's sad problem... as I guess [05:43:31] what the problem is? [05:43:51] MrZ-man: I can't get Special:Allmessages to work on my new wiki [05:43:58] he can see index.php?title=Special:Allmessages&ot=xml but not Special:Allmessages [05:44:03] what's it doing? [05:44:22] blank page or a fatal error? [05:44:27] blank [05:44:45] is it possible for entries to exist in categorylinks for a nonexistent page (not nonexistent category) for any length of time? [05:45:06] Enterprise_Cat: do you have a link? [05:45:16] i.e. is categorylinks cleared out separately (e.g. by the job queue) at some later date after page deletion, and could stuff hang around indefinitely if something goes wrong with that job? [05:45:21] MrZ-man: Stand by [05:45:39] http://fastlizard4.10gbfreehost.com/index.php/Special:Allmessages [05:47:54] Enterprise_Cat: try commenting out some extension includes in LocalSettings, one at a time [05:48:14] OK [05:48:45] oh that could be.. [05:55:08] Enterprise_Cat: it seems to be working now [05:55:34] Yeah, I hid all extensions then started re-enabling them [05:56:35] Then you just have to figure out which one is breaking it [05:56:44] It appears to be ParserFunctions [05:56:57] I can't see why [05:57:27] ParserFunctions is used by Wikimedia, and shouldn't affect special pages [05:57:44] do any of your messages contain parser functions? (shouldn't afflict it, but might) [05:57:52] grep Allmessages for {{# [05:58:06] No [05:59:42] wait, I was looking at the wrong page [05:59:50] its still not working [06:00:11] its actually worse now [06:00:17] undo whatever you just did [06:00:44] okay, that's better [06:00:48] Huh [06:00:54] It looks like it is ParserFunctions [06:00:58] OR NewUsersLog [06:01:25] both almost core, both used on wikimedia, both rigorously tested against trunk [06:04:15] hmm, try using this version of ParserFunctions - http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/branches/REL1_12/extensions/ParserFunctions/ [06:05:14] It actually appears to be newuserlog and only affecting the HTML output [06:09:55] I guess I can live with the PHP version of the page, though [06:14:49] MrZ-man: How do you create a namespace? [06:15:10] !namespaces | Enterprise_Cat [06:15:10] --mwbot-- Enterprise_Cat: For help with understanding and manipulating namespaces, please consult . See also !extranamespace [06:15:16] !extranamespace [06:15:16] --mwbot-- To add a namespace, modify your LocalSettings.php file, and add namespaces via $wgExtraNamespaces. A comprehensive set of instructions for adding a namespace can be found at . $wgExtraNamespaces can also be used to rename the default namespaces. [06:15:38] ahh [06:15:40] thanks [06:30:08] what is the suggested way of handling authentication with an existing db table of users? [06:31:53] !centralauth | BlackMagik [06:31:53] --mwbot-- BlackMagik: CentralAuth extension allows global/shared accounts between projects. For more information, see [06:32:32] 04(REOPENED) Reverting Images broken in PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13532 +comment (10overlordq) [06:33:23] enhydra, is this for centralizing wikis or can it work with existing user tables from other systems? [06:34:15] generally there is no standard for user tables, so it differs with its format [06:34:31] it works with several wikis, but, afaik, integration with other systems is possible [06:34:41] !openid [06:34:41] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "openid". [06:34:43] bah [06:35:08] ok, i'll check it out [06:35:44] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenID [06:36:27] I have a question [06:36:32] (rather, another one) [06:36:39] Why does it ask for a reason in the Checkuser prompt? [06:36:47] Are CheckUser actions logged? [06:36:49] Enterprise_Cat: yes [06:36:57] Random832|zzz: Where? [06:37:05] the log is available to any CU [06:37:06] in the checkuser log [06:37:15] Where do I find said log? [06:37:21] Enterprise_Cat: depends [06:37:31] Special:Logs/Checkuser ? [06:37:45] no [06:37:51] !openid [06:37:51] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenID [06:37:57] *Splarka pats mwbot [06:37:57] from the same gui from which you use the CU [06:38:08] it has a show log option or whatever [06:38:12] *snowolf too lazy to check [06:39:07] ahh, i c [06:55:26] *Enterprise_Cat is now going to bed, good night! [07:24:32] is there any wikimedia able to run on php 4.1 ? [07:25:04] you mean mediawiki. and 1.6 runs on php4.. although maybe not an ancient version like 4.1 [07:25:53] 4.4.1 i mean [07:26:10] ok i will see realeases note for 1.6, thank u flyingparchment [08:27:20] I'm almost ready to commit my load balancing stuff [08:28:40] so I thought I'd hop on IRC in case anyone cares [08:30:25] well, I guess it's the wrong time of the day/week for caring, isn't it? [08:30:32] *Splarka read that as "I'm almost ready to commit myself" [08:30:44] everyone cares! [08:31:15] hmmm, first I've got to fix half a dozen merge conflicts [08:33:52] fun stuff :) [08:36:43] bah image revert still borked :( [08:41:19] in what way? [08:43:36] hello! [08:43:39] lol "These are just globals, and will never be anything other than the globals, so just use them..." [08:43:43] famous last words [08:43:55] said in a commit that conflicts with me removing one of the globals in question [08:44:43] Hi! [08:44:48] i got a question [08:44:52] maybe someone can help me [08:44:55] *Werdna waves [08:45:20] don't ask to ask, just ask :) [08:45:38] derwin, writing :-) [08:45:54] i want to know if its possible to disable anonymous edit in mediawiki, but enable anonymous editing in the discuss pages... [08:46:13] am i clear? [08:46:27] !access | Yaco [08:46:27] --mwbot-- Yaco: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [08:47:16] more to the point, for per-namespace permissions, use the Lockdown extension [08:47:34] needs a patch in 1.12 though [08:47:50] d'oh, guess I should have stuck with 1.9 ;) [08:48:11] TimStarling: well was borked with PG due to timestamps, but now I really have no clue. bug 13532, tried tracing it through the code but hellifknow. [08:49:14] OverlordQ: just HEAD, not a release? [08:49:19] yea [08:49:28] derwin: actually, if the only permission ou want to influcen is editing, you donw't need lockdown [08:49:55] derwin: wgNamespaceProtection should be sufficient. see the "preventing access" page [08:49:56] HEAD is regularly broken for postgresql, you shouldn't be surprised [08:50:22] could try 1.12 but I'm sure i'd have the same problem [08:50:26] this seems to be what i need: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EditSubpages [08:50:35] but using that [08:50:49] Yaco: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgNamespaceProtection [08:50:58] i should specificate every page i want to enable write acces [08:50:59] wow, what an improvement [08:51:02] The page "President-still-living-who-was-President-earlier-than-any-other-Presidents-who-are-also-currently-alive" (links) has been moved to "Earliest-serving living president of the United States" (links). (revert �� log) [08:51:16] i will check Duesentrieb [08:55:46] TimStarling: yea just tried 1.12 and is even less functional :) gives an internal error [08:59:27] you could just use MySQL [09:04:47] suppose [09:19:33] 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats on Meta-wiki to remove rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13509 (10axel9891) [09:48:30] 03tstarling� * r32578� 10�/trunk/ (32 files in 9 dirs):� (log message trimmed) [09:48:30] * Introduced LBFactory -- an abstract class for configuring database load balancers and connecting to foreign DBs. [09:48:30] * Wrote two concrete implementations. LBFactory_Simple is for general installations. LBFactory_Multi will replace the runtime configuration used on Wikimedia and allow load-balanced connections to any DB. [09:48:30] * Ported Special:Userrights, CentralAuth and OAI audit to the LBFactory system. [09:48:32] * Added ForeignDBViaLBRepo, a file repository which uses LBFactory. [09:48:34] * Removed $wgLoadBalancer and $wgAlternateMaster [09:48:36] * Improved the query group concept to allow failover and lag control [09:51:27] 03tstarling� * r32579� 10�/trunk/phase3/includes/Database.php:� mmm... [09:55:08] 03tstarling� * r32580� 10�/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES:� For r32578. [09:56:08] get all that domas? [09:59:03] checking [09:59:38] O_O Wooooooowwww!!! That google turned up something interesting... [10:00:19] http://www.polarion.org/index.php?page=overview&project=svnwebclient [10:00:22] *domas eyes shutdown. [10:00:41] I thought that mechanism deserved its own little class [10:00:48] since it's kind of a UI component [10:01:15] mmm, will have to review database flow [10:01:48] *domas svnups [10:03:46] what the heck [10:03:47] I got rid of a commit query [10:03:49] did someone revert me [10:03:55] *Duesentrieb snickers [10:04:01] it was in Database::masterPosWait() [10:04:49] ah, didn't I commit MessagesEn change [10:05:07] see, Brion's opensearch-desc message has two {{}} embedded objects [10:05:14] which adds quite a few ms to every pageload [10:06:08] had uncommitted fix for it [10:06:12] hack with $1 $2 [10:06:27] will probably do it for all interface messages [10:06:36] which use SITENAME [10:14:17] am I supposed to delete this? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%B2_%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%B8%E0%B8%8D%E0%B8%89%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B5 [10:15:24] Ewww :) [10:20:07] ermm [10:20:32] anyone know the special page CategoryTree? where can i get and install it? [10:26:24] !e CategoryTree [10:26:24] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree [10:27:01] err, i came to this page, and got an error [10:27:13] after installing properly: [10:27:13] Fatal error: Call to undefined function wfloadextensionmessages() in /home/nang/public_html/wiki/extensions/CategoryTree/CategoryTreePage.php on line 28 [10:27:52] NaNg: upgrade your wiki or find an old version of the extension [10:28:03] wfloadextensionmessages was introduced in 1.11 iirc [10:28:30] what's the current version? [10:28:36] 1.12 [10:28:54] where can i check my version? [10:28:59] !version [10:28:59] --mwbot-- To find out the version of your MediaWiki installation, visit the page Special:Version. Should the wiki be broken, but you have access to the program files, find $wgVersion in DefaultSettings.php. [10:29:18] and if i don't have defaultsettings.php :x [10:29:19] ah, somebody beat me to it anyway [10:30:01] ? [10:30:09] NaNg: if you don't have defaultsettings.php your wiki is completely broken and can not possibly work. but what keeps you from simply looking atSpecial:Version? [10:30:24] defaultsettings is in the oncludes dir btw [10:30:28] *includes [10:30:36] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=24808 [10:31:01] oh, gotit [10:31:19] wgVersion = 1.9.3 o_O [10:31:53] hmm ok... time to upgrade [10:31:59] !upgrade [10:31:59] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [10:32:04] thanks [10:32:06] anyway, gotta grab some lunch [10:45:39] !help [10:45:39] --mwbot-- Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot >, you can find all my source code at < http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn >. A dump is now available at < http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html > [10:52:53] g'day. i'm the admin and db admin of a mediawiki board. i had created a second account so that I was always uid 1, but then failed to give myself buerocrat (sp). now, i can't remember the password for uid 1. can I change it simply enough via the database? [10:54:39] make a new user, give him the sysop/bureaucrat rights via db [10:54:52] dung: he wants uid 1 though ^_^ [10:54:56] the password is stored in the DB usually as md5( "{$userid}-{md5( $password)}" ) [10:55:10] just make up a new one and insert it [10:55:12] uid 2 is just the same as uid 1 [10:55:31] dungodung: no. uid1 gets sysop and buerocrat automatically and always. [10:55:35] so? [10:55:37] i was more using it as short hand to refer to "the first account". [10:55:55] Splarka: so MySQL's MD5() should be able to gen the password too then? [10:55:58] rename the uid 1 to something else and rename uid 2 to uid 1's username [10:55:59] who cares [10:56:06] who cares what the uid # is [10:56:26] well, any md5 should be the same, in theory [10:57:08] 3150ebb33886093b2e20871b33410bbc would be password 'foo' for UID 1 (in theory) [10:57:50] update user set user_password = md5('ahem') where user_id = 1; [10:58:00] didn't seem to work... i'll just copy my known md5 hash from the other user ;) [10:58:28] won't work [10:58:32] different user ID [10:58:44] oh? it's salted with the uid? [10:58:48] oh. jeez, sorry. [10:58:49] ... [10:58:54] i didn't catch that above. [10:58:56] md5( "{$userid}-{md5( $password)}" ) [10:58:58] heh [10:59:14] well, of course, depends on if $wgPasswordSalt is used [10:59:24] but that is usually the case [11:00:36] *Werdna waves [11:01:11] *Splarka baffles Werdna from oscillating [11:01:12] there we go. thanks! [11:01:24] np [11:05:24] ermm, if i wanna update from 1.9.X to 1.12.0, do i just need to overwrite the necessary files, or completely delete the old folder and upload the new files? [11:05:28]