[00:08:58] hey MinuteElectron, I tried to find the way to edit "Sidebar" by looking for the page MediaWiki:Sidebar [00:09:11] but i can't find it... is it just index.php/Mediawiki:Sidebar [00:09:11] yes... [00:09:33] commmmodo: type into the search box on your wiki MediaWiki:Sidebar then press go. [00:09:38] ok [00:09:44] actually i deleted the go button :( [00:09:53] why?! [00:10:26] well press earch then click on create this page if a link comes up [00:10:35] or the blue link if there is one of them near the top [00:11:07] anyway, I'm off for tonight [00:11:10] goodbye [00:11:18] thanks! bye [00:14:02] can anyone tell me where $this->msg('tagline') is pulled from? [00:14:31] MediaWiki:Tagline I'm assuming [00:19:05] how would i change that for a page Skizzerz [00:19:19] huh? [00:20:55] like what is the Tagline, is it an attribute of a page? [00:21:03] if so, is there some way to set it for a page? [00:22:00] edit [[MediaWiki:Tagline]]? [00:22:37] oh [00:22:42] its for the whole site [00:22:43] gotcha [00:23:16] I'm trying to instal the Labeled Section Transclusion Extension, do I add all of require_once ( 'extensions/LabeledSectionTransclusion/lst.php' ); to the page or just extensions/LabeledSectionTransclusion/lst.php ? Look here to see what I'm talking about: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Labeled_Section_Transclusion#Installation [00:23:56] all of it [00:24:04] Thanks Skizz [00:29:10] Pinky or Skizzerz do you guys know how easily I can change the links populated in "personal_urls" ? like specifically getting rid of "My contributions" and "My Watchlist" for example [00:30:06] its in Special:Allmessages somewhere IIRC [00:31:33] wow! wtf is that page??? [00:32:16] is has all the MediaWiki messages you can change [00:32:20] *it [00:32:53] Pinky: actually, it's not. personal bar is defined solely in PHP [00:33:00] oh [00:34:12] commmmodo: if you want to change the links up there, you need to edit your skin's PHP file and change them (some understanding of PHP is required) [00:34:28] there are unfortunately no MediaWiki: messages that control the personal urls [00:34:40] ok, thats fine, i see the array here i just need to hack it i guess... [00:35:28] you can change the TEXT of the links via MediaWiki: messages, just not the links themselves [00:36:29] ah [00:36:30] ok [00:56:09] anyone alive who can explain why, if I have a template called Moo, why transcluding a page which also includes the template Moo results in a "template loop" ? [00:56:26] in this case, the template just does {{:namespace{{{1}}}}} [00:56:43] so why is that a "loop" ? [00:57:21] googling the error, unfortunately, produces.. a bunch of wiki pages which have template loops [00:58:04] derwin, um, what exactly are you transcluding from where to where? [00:58:16] If Template:Moo transcludes something that transcludes Template:Moo, that's a loop. [00:58:34] If you give a link I may be able to help. [00:59:57] unfortunately it's not publically accessible [01:00:20] oh, so because I'm including Template:Moo, even though the *argument* is different, it's a loop [01:00:30] I'm using the Template-as-a-passthrough trick [01:01:01] with {{Template|Page Name}} and {{:namespace:{{{1}}}}} [01:02:27] so, if I have two levels of this include-something-which-might-use-this-trick [01:02:36] I guess the only way I can really do it is two different Templates [01:02:44] which is inelegant, but handles 95% of my cases [01:02:52] and a third level would handle the remaining 5% [01:03:06] 03laner * r32649 10/trunk/extensions/SmoothGallery/SmoothGalleryClass.php: Changing the images sizes back to html attributes instead of css attributes, eventhough neither seem to work with this javascript library (*mumble*). [01:05:35] derwin: it's simple enough to generate an infinite loop involving constantly changing template parameters [01:06:02] {{loop|x{{{1}}} }} [01:06:27] that's why it only checks the template name [01:06:35] ah, that makes sense [01:06:50] it's inelegant for me to use a second, almost identical template, but it'll work in my case [01:11:33] so again i'm coming here. i have installed wiki 1.12.X, i have uploaded the CategoryTree folder to the extensions folder, i have added the two lines to the localsettings.php, but i still can't find the tree, where? how? [01:42:16] Hi, I am trying to extract clean paragraphs out of wikipedia but it seems that the wikimarkup is imposible to parse [01:42:27] there are to many special cases, and filters need [01:42:30] needed [01:43:06] I found the http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/latest/enwiki-latest-abstract.xml they sort of do something similar [01:43:17] but its has more problems than mine [01:43:26] any ideas? [01:50:06] "extract" "clean" paragraphs? [01:50:54] Totic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download [01:51:29] downloading it is not a problem [01:51:46] the problem is actually removing all the markup to get just text [01:51:54] heh. [01:52:36] I also looked at the abstract download that they provide [01:52:38] so.. you want it to render.. but you don't want it to render? [01:52:42] but its even dirtier [01:53:25] " MediaWiki 1.5 includes routines to dump a wiki to HTML, rendering the HTML with the same parser used on a live wiki. As the following page states, putting one of these dumps on the web unmodified will constitute a trademark violation. They are intended for private viewing in an intranet or desktop installation. " [01:53:29] I do research in natural language processing at MIT, and we are trying to get a version of wikipedia without all the markup for some machine learning [01:53:48] 03aaron * r32650 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevsPage.php): [01:53:48] * Add token to new page patrol link tool [01:53:48] * Salt token with title [01:53:48] sweet, media lab? I bet you know some of my raver nerd pals.. lol [01:54:03] nope, not the media lab, csail [01:54:33] so, it seems to me that if you started with the static dump [01:54:34] So I'm trying to migrate a MediaWiki isntallation and keep all articles/users/uploaded images/files etc. but I'm also switching the URL scheme to the short URL as per http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL#Recommended_configuration_.28Used_on_Wikipedia.29 [01:54:40] This is confusing and slightly scary for me. [01:54:52] I'm not exactly sure how to do it either. [01:55:10] totic : removed all the HTML tags, you would end up with.. something semi-reasonable? [01:55:19] I'm worried the new isntallation will be confused [01:55:25] if I get a html version that would be great [01:55:34] Is there something in the database that specifies where articles are stored or is it just in LocalSettings.php? [01:55:41] html is much easier to parse [01:55:53] than wikimarkup [01:56:30] Totic: the page I just pasted to you indicates how to get a HTML version [01:56:37] great [01:56:41] ill take a look [01:56:57] http://static.wikipedia.org/ [01:57:01] is a more direct link [01:57:48] lol, and apparently does not contain the english wikipedia [01:58:14] they dont have static version of english.. [01:58:19] yeah i just checked [01:58:27] http://static.wikipedia.org/downloads/April_2007/en/ [01:58:33] does appear to contain a static ver of english [01:58:38] which is probably sufficient for your needs [01:59:47] I didnt get your other link, "(21:56:30) derwin: Totic: the page I just pasted to you indicates how to get a HTML version" [02:00:11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download [02:00:17] which is where I got the link to the static page [02:01:10] oh well that one I knew about, I thought you had a rabbit in your sleeve [02:01:41] well, there is an april 2007 static html set which I got from there, that's rabbit-like atleast :) [02:02:42] thanks a lot, but we wanted a recent one to work with, to work on the elections and things like that [02:03:17] ah, in that case, dunno. [02:03:43] presumably you could take a database dump [02:03:46] and convert it into html [02:03:53] and then clean up the html [02:04:04] yeah, Ill take a look at that' [02:30:02] Hey! Two little questions: (1) When backuping the whole wiki, does it backup all pictures and attachment files too? (2) Is it possible to have a section (say.. any page that starts with UserDiscussion: followed by a user name) available to public and the rest of the wiki locked for a small group of users? (or do I have to lock these pages...?) [02:31:06] !access | max_- [02:31:06] --mwbot-- max_-: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [02:32:22] thanks for (2) :) [02:33:11] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Backup [02:33:46] lol : Unofficial backup script by User:Duesentrieb: [1]; creates a backup of all files, a database dump, and an xml dump. [02:33:57] User:Duesentrieb, who often is in this channel :) [02:35:17] why 'lol'? [02:35:54] because I search for a page and I find someone who participates in this channel, that's pretty lol :) [02:36:04] hehe nice :) [02:36:05] it's a small net after all [02:36:20] man, why does k4jcw's nick seem so familiar, speaking of small net [02:36:50] It's an amateur radio callsign, for one. [02:37:23] yeah, I think I probably recognize you from perl land [02:37:35] I maintain the stats pages for perlmonk.org. [02:37:47] And the perlmonk.org server. [02:37:57] yea, probably that :) [02:37:59] stats pages for perlmonkS.org, eather. [02:46:04] so did anyone implement my suggestion to have Special:Random sometimes rickroll people? [02:46:29] maybe I should file a bug [02:53:17] 03(mod) Private logging through Special:Log interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13459 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [02:58:27] random832: thanks for the idea... [02:59:28] (note: do not actually do this - screwing around with the actual interface/software for april fools day is not acceptable apparently) [03:03:52] AFD is a bloody nuisance. [03:09:49] 03(NEW) Content Rating System - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13573 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (LVVL100) [03:10:49] 03(mod) Content Rating System - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13573 (10LVVL100) [03:11:25] 03(FIXED) Change interwiki link for the Tatar Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13126 +comment (10reg) [03:13:29] 03(NEW) Content Rating System - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13574 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (LVVL100) [03:15:11] 03(mod) Content Rating System - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13574 (10LVVL100) [03:15:19] Hello. [03:15:45] I upgraded some of my extensions recently and now they are displaying $LastChangedDate$ on the Special:Version page. [03:15:59] Anyone familiar with what I could be doing wrong? [03:18:39] I think it was the one who used that magic word in an extension who was doing the stupid thing. [03:18:49] Probably if you checked it out from Subversion that would be filled in automagically. [03:18:59] But not if you copy-paste from the web or something. [03:19:43] Hey guys [03:20:00] Oh yeah that fixed it. [03:20:02] Thanks. [03:20:12] got d/c [03:20:32] I'm trying to get rid of the footer, but I'm stuck with a yellow border line on the left side. Anyone run into this? [03:27:39] could anyone please offer any suggestions for troubleshooting mail problems? [03:28:15] such as? [03:29:20] when watched pages are edited, emails are not generated [03:29:23] jlerner - do you know how I can get rid of the left yellow footer border? [03:29:33] probably an easy one: can I just set the "Admin username" as the username I'll be using all the time, or is there really a good reason to have an admin username an another username for the admin.. ? [03:30:04] pdowling: how about when you create an account? [03:30:20] is there anyway to determine a users current skin via either a magic word or something in javascript? wgSkin doesn't seem to work [03:30:20] jlerner: emails seem to be fine in that case [03:30:44] Aftku39: hm? [03:30:59] Pinky: the variable is just called skin [03:31:04] it predated the wg convention [03:31:14] ok [03:31:16] if(skin == 'monobook') {} [03:31:22] thanks [03:31:38] pdowling: no emails are generated when a watched page is edited? [03:31:44] Aftku39: which skin? monobook? [03:31:48] or just sometimes no email is generated [03:32:38] jlerner: AFAIK no emails at all [03:33:01] users are reporting this? have you seen it ? which wiki [03:33:16] jlerner: I'm looking in UserMailer.php but sometimes an echo or an exit() in there will take effect, sometimes not [03:33:27] jlerner: no I haven't seen it [03:33:52] well if emails are generated when you create a user, then it's probably not a problem with UserMailer.php [03:33:57] can you reproduce the error? [03:34:03] no :( [03:35:03] jlerner: I might need to get a better error report, or it's possible the error is just silent [03:35:11] Splarka - I got all the code removed :) [03:35:13] Thanks though [03:35:32] Aftku39: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Catalogue_of_CSS_classes is handy for debugging styles [03:35:40] could be a case of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Watching_pages#E-mail_notification [03:35:51] (it is wikipedia-centric but most cases apply to all installations) [03:36:06] an email is not generated for every edit to a watched page [03:36:18] hmmm [03:36:26] it confused my users... [03:37:00] I did come across the Enotif thing but I couldn't make much sense of it [03:37:05] I'll give it a read [03:38:08] I think I'll bounce that to the bug reporter and see what they say [03:38:18] jlerner: thanks, you've saved my week! [03:38:24] ha, we'll see [03:38:32] fingers crossed [03:38:45] thanks again [03:38:47] cya [03:45:46] *amidaniel gives Werdna a cookie for the reworking of the Userrights interface [04:06:00] userrights is changed? [04:13:18] has anyone had problems including YouTube videos in their wikis? [04:13:44] Like it seems that after you serve it up a certain number of times they say "this video is no longer avialable", but really it's just not available from that domain or something? [04:15:22] Sean_Colombo: videos sometimes disappear from YT; have you verified that the video is still there [04:15:24] ? [04:15:33] yes [04:15:48] it's still there... and I can actually paste the url from my embed into firefox and it works [04:16:04] http://lyricwiki.org/index.php?title=Rick_Roll [04:16:13] How do you add a forced banner to every page, even ones not created yet? [04:18:16] Sean_Colombo: no idea then :\ [04:18:40] Hmm... I need a workaround... its it illegal to download a video from YouTube and host it yourself? [04:19:01] lol, rick roll [04:19:19] now you see why I need it! :) [04:19:33] it's april fools day... everyone is going to get redirected there... but it's broken [04:20:50] Rick Roll'd [04:21:01] Sean_Colombo: mostly illegal, yes :) [04:21:20] hrmmm [04:21:28] need some way to embed the thing... [04:21:37] it's already April Fools day! [04:21:49] viddler has a version but it doesn't auto-play [04:22:05] Any recommendation on adding a banner to page headers for all users not logged in to the wiki? [04:24:15] AfT98u: MediaWiki:Anoneditwarning [04:24:27] AFt98u: ^ [04:24:31] Sounds goooood [04:24:33] :) [04:24:36] Thanks Mike [04:24:45] Do you need assistance with anything Mike? [04:24:56] not at the moment :) [04:25:21] I'm panicing :(.... I've already had a couple thousand hits to the Rick-Rolling and it's down! [04:26:35] :) [04:26:36] I'm just baffled that I can't find a way to embed a rick-roll video... this is the internets!!! [04:26:47] embed? Extensions [04:27:00] videoflash extension [04:27:14] *Mike_lifeguard nods, thinking Sean_Colombo already knew that [04:27:24] Oh Ok [04:27:37] Ctrl+V? [04:28:21] Sean_Colombo: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Youtube [04:29:19] Sean_Colombo: you could put the embed code inside of [04:29:25] http://organizedwisdom.com/User:Joshua/Rickroll [04:29:29] Mike_lifeguard: thanks... I have the embed code in there already though [04:29:36] ... I used the HTMLets extension [04:29:49] it's just that YouTube appears to be not letting me play the video (possibly too much use?) [04:30:07] *Mike_lifeguard dunno :\ [04:30:19] oh nice... jlerner has another service... [04:30:39] is there a way to make that autoplay? [04:30:42] there's another big intarweb company out there called yahoo [04:30:51] it did autoplay for me [04:31:14] oh [04:31:15] maybe not [04:34:50] 03(NEW) Diff in en.wikipedia displaying completely incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13575 minor; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (darthvader1219) [04:40:11] 03(mod) Reverting Images broken in PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13532 (10greg) [04:40:12] if a user is not logged in... is a session still started (ie: session_start()): [04:40:13] ? [04:43:33] I'm trying to do something which involves setting session vars, but if the user isn't logged in it doesn't seem to be working [04:55:02] okay... yea [04:55:15] by experiment it turns out no session is started if you're not logged in [04:55:28] for anyone who's curious the work-around would be this: [04:55:43] in the tags in monobook.php (or using hooks), add this code: [04:55:48] GLOBAL $wgUser; [04:55:52] if(! $wgUser->isLoggedIn()){ [04:55:55] session_start(); [04:55:56] } [04:59:16] I've changed $IP for "http://wiki.example.com" then $wgScriptPath for "" since the wiki subdomain points directly to the mediawiki directory.... things won't work with this changed... I get Warning: require_once() [function.require-once]: URL file-access is disabled in the server configuration in .../example.com/wiki/mediawiki/LocalSettings.php on line 23 [04:59:58] line 23 is require_once( "$IP/includes/DefaultSettings.php" ); ... that looks good to me.. it should point to wiki.example.com/includes/Def...php which is in fact example.com/wiki/mediawiki/includes/Def...php [05:01:05] 03aaron * r32651 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.php: This was changed to rev ID [05:19:43] amidaniel|away: :) [05:19:47] hi ANDREA [05:40:22] I'm looking through an xml dump of the database; what are the tags used for? [05:41:06] revision comment, I think [05:41:11] summary of what was changed in that edit. [05:41:36] indeed [05:41:56] oh, hmm. I was wondering if I could insert my own generated ids there [05:42:24] I have a bunch of text blocks that have ids associated with them.. [05:42:36] I'm importing it into mediawiki [05:44:11] I need a way such that I can easily modify certain portions of the xml dump file so it can be re-imported into the mediawiki database [05:45:13] I was thinking of adding an "html " comment within the tag of the xml format [05:46:06] but when I useDumpbackup.php, it does not retain these "html " tags [05:47:53] the "" would contain ids that I thought would make looking up certain portions of the xml dump easy [05:48:44] why not use the revision ID? [05:48:50] it's already in the dumps, I think [05:49:44] phone [05:58:46] *ring* [05:59:52] ringringring banana phone [06:00:59] whew! working on this is making me wish I knew PHP! [06:13:26] back [06:13:58] ^_^ wish you knew php... I wish I had php... I'm still running though my failed attempts at compiling it with mysql and mysqli... rofl [06:14:00] Werdna: the ids I generated are not wikimedia-specific ids [06:14:13] Salt! [06:14:27] Why not just combine a revid with a id for a wiki [06:15:13] these are ids entirely independent of wiki ids [06:15:23] hello [06:16:21] Dantman|FS: what OS are you running? [06:16:29] hi Nikerabbit [06:17:15] Windows, why? If you're talking about PHP, that's different, that's my server... Running Ubuntu, but I don't want the package for what I'm doing, I'm compiling from source for a few reasons [06:19:06] ugh [06:19:33] anybody have ideas on how I can associate ids [non-related to mediawiki ids] with certain blocks of the xml dump format? [06:20:20] Dantman|FS: you need some specific modules or something? [06:22:54] oh, hmm [06:22:59] Actually, two things... I have plans for running multiple versions of php on the server so I can't use the default file structure. And additionally I would like to be able to ensure that an upgrade does not break sites before I finally put it in the open [06:23:03] nevermind I figured it out [06:24:12] hehe, you must be having fun compiling it on windows [06:25:11] you must have your reasons to use windows, but you can easily have php4 and php5 running concurrently at the same time without compiling on Linux [06:26:10] I do it on debian, so I'd guess you can do it on ubuntu [06:26:26] you can use fastcgi [06:26:33] yup [06:34:15] I said I was using Ubuntu... I'm not insane, I'd never compile on Windows [06:34:45] yes, Debain and Ubuntu are basically the same... And I am using FastCGI, I'm using NGINX instead of Apache [06:35:12] But it's not php 4 and 5 [06:35:25] It's php 5.2 5.3 and 6 [06:37:24] Dantman|FS: ah, cool [06:37:47] how's nginx going for you? [06:37:54] That's fine... [06:37:56] I use lighttpd [06:38:16] soooo [06:38:21] I use apache 404 handler for one wiki [06:38:27] Ok [06:38:28] and it doesn't pass POSTs properly :( [06:38:38] eeek [06:38:53] even more [06:38:54] I only a local mirror of a lot of articles... [06:38:58] responds with '404' [06:39:03] Local mirror of enwiki [06:39:13] But it isnt complete [06:39:39] What should I do? [06:39:42] domas: that was not a sockpuppet announcing that Wikimedia is going to start using Oracle? [06:39:56] siebrand: that was me [06:40:02] *siebrand faints. [06:40:08] T_T [06:40:13] why [06:40:21] mediawiki and oracle? [06:40:24] domas: last time I checked, Oracle DBMS wasn't FOSS. [06:40:35] siebrand: is that a problem? [06:40:42] And breaks standard support for most other installations [06:40:46] domas: that's what I am looking into. [06:40:53] well, we will be forking off 'opensource mediawiki' [06:41:03] mediawiki lite [06:41:05] yikes [06:41:37] security through "mind your own business" [06:42:13] domas: I can imagine that's the 'free' in Wikimedia Foundation's current goals may be questioned by some. By me at least. [06:42:36] domas: one could argue that the WMF is made more vulnerable to corporate interests with this move. [06:42:50] siebrand: What move? [06:43:10] siebrand: free content is most important [06:43:14] not means to achieve it! [06:43:31] ow fuck. [06:43:35] 1 April. [06:43:41] nice one, domas. [06:43:50] hehe [06:44:00] Did someone fool siebrand ? [06:44:06] :P [06:44:15] ^_^ It's not April fools for another 16 minutes for me... [06:44:16] lol [06:44:21] not until 15 mins [06:44:26] well, I usually take domas quite seriously... [06:44:35] I'm very serious, yes. [06:44:36] *siebrand kicks the living shit out of domas. [06:44:43] welcome to the internet, where april fools lasts 47:59:59 [06:46:23] rar [06:48:48] I imported enwiki.xml with mwdumper, at the end it was fast, but I dont think it was writing to the hd, what to do? [06:49:44] ?? you can import with mwdumper? [06:50:23] blue_asterisk: ?? [06:50:50] doesn't "dump" imply "export"? [06:51:03] blue_asterisk: No? [06:51:06] debian: mwdumper generates sql statements [06:51:10] you pipe them into mysql? [06:51:18] and crosslinks need to be rebuilt afterwards, I suppose. [06:51:21] Yes [06:51:28] Crosslinks? [06:51:38] pagelinks et al [06:51:46] I'm missing a bunch of articles [06:51:51] after the import [06:52:06] Like United Nations and Great Britain [06:52:41] *blue_asterisk thinks missing the article on the United Nations is ok, heh [06:54:23] domas: What should I do? [06:55:19] mmm, if you're emo, you can cry [06:55:50] if your nickname represents your personality, you can wait 5 years [06:57:50] domas: No, I cant [06:57:59] I need it for a test on tuesday. [06:58:09] or actually, you can cry for 5 years. [06:58:34] lol [06:59:01] NOTE: mwdumper is an unsuitable choice for an already installed MediaWiki with an active database on any of the Redhat or Fedora Core Linux Distributions. Running mwdumper against an installed MediaWiki site will result in the program inaccurately reporting it is inputting pages when in fact the mysql database is rejecting the records. Typically, the cause of the mysql commands being rejected seems related to the set-variable max_allowed_ [06:59:15] Should I edit the file? [06:59:31] morning Tim [06:59:36] hello [07:02:34] domas: I dont have a my.conf or a my.ini... [07:19:31] it's my.cnf [07:37:22] 14(DUP) Content Rating System - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13574 +comment (10sco_scam) [07:37:23] 03(mod) Content Rating System - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13573 (10sco_scam) [07:39:11] 03siebrand * r32652 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (75 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-04-01 09:08 CEST) [07:44:49] 03(mod) Reverting Images broken in PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13532 (10overlordq) [07:46:23] 03(mod) Reverting Images broken in PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13532 (10overlordq) [07:46:58] 03siebrand * r32653 10/trunk/extensions/ (41 files in 41 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-04-01 09:08 CEST) [08:10:06] domas: is it possible to run message usage profiling some day soon? [08:10:16] yes! [08:12:20] domas: ah, great :) I guess I need to be present around the time you disable it again to get the report, right? [08:12:31] yeah [08:12:36] or I can get an extract, of course [08:12:56] siebrand: can you review CentralAuth messages code, to make that delayed? :) [08:13:04] mm [08:13:06] domas: if it's all in your hands, that's probably easiest to coordinate. [08:13:14] domas: IIRC someone just did last night. [08:13:23] domas: lemme check. [08:13:59] har har nice one domas [08:14:42] domas: ialex did something in r32641: Delay messages loading, only load them when necessary [08:15:07] ah [08:15:09] domas: haven't looked at it in detail. [08:15:28] probably ialex did what I asked [08:15:33] I start loving this development community [08:15:35] I mention something [08:15:37] and it gets done [08:15:38] :) [08:15:54] *siebrand grins at domas. [08:16:09] might try dropping "My car needs waxed", "My house is kinda dirty" see if those get done ;) [08:16:15] OvrLrd-Q: no car here :( [08:16:28] just suggestions :) [08:16:29] but cleaning the facade could be nice [08:16:40] domas: anyway... If you get me ~2 hours of profiling and the top 5000 for prefix=MessageCache::get I'll be fine. [08:17:03] siebrand: oddly enough, we can get same data in 2 seconds :) [08:17:15] archivist: siebrand bought the joke [08:17:22] and few other folks [08:17:33] domas: I'm sure Oracle could do that even faster ;) [08:17:40] domas: you have the profiling active already? [08:17:43] domas Im awake though [08:18:09] siebrand: I wonder why you need two hours [08:18:17] *archivist wonders what to do in #mysql [08:18:20] when few seconds of our load are completely representative of that stuff :)) [08:18:23] domas: needs a sizable dataset [08:19:07] we have few thousands of requests hitting the backend every second :) [08:19:22] I'm a bit busy lately though [08:19:47] domas: my last info was that 1 out of 50 requests hitting the backend was profiled (correct?) [08:19:55] yes [08:20:02] so if you make profiling rate for few seconds [08:20:06] 100% [08:20:07] .. [08:20:07] :) [08:20:33] domas: well, then let me lower my requirement to 10 mins :) [08:22:00] domas: then at least we'll have some blocks, deleted pages/images, uploads, etc. [08:22:18] domas: those would be missed with just a few secs. [08:22:33] okok, will get few hours rated snapshot for you [08:22:51] *siebrand hugs domas. [08:23:20] (oh, and we've been rambling in the wrong channel again) [08:27:09] hi [08:28:10] if my address is like http://wiki.example.com/index.php/Main_Page, does http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_Both_no_root_and_root_access still apply? [08:56:50] what page descibes best how to rewrite URLs from http://wiki.example.com/index.php/Main_Page to http://wiki.example.com/wiki/Main_Page? I tried http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_Both_no_root_and_root_access and it didn't seem to work [08:57:05] s/tried/followed [08:57:05] !shorturls [08:57:05] --mwbot-- To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [08:57:22] !rewriteproblem [08:57:22] --mwbot-- 1) Try as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root. [08:57:44] use the first link first [09:15:31] 03(mod) Option to mask email addresses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9872 (106e6f4hs02) [09:23:31] <_wooz> lo [09:42:12] so again i'm coming here. i have installed wiki 1.12.X, i have uploaded the CategoryTree folder to the extensions folder, i have added the two lines to the localsettings.php, but i still can't find the tree, where? how? [09:55:52] Why doesn't SpecialUnusedCategories use cat_pages from "category" instead of that complex SQL request on categorylinks && page ? [09:57:31] Because the category table is new, so some things haven't been updated to use it yet. [09:58:18] ah right. Then I'll try to update that page. [10:00:00] make sure cat_pages is up to date before you do that [10:00:07] often these count fields aren't initialised to begin with [10:02:31] hi! i'm trying to get a conditional template working, but i can't wrap my brain around the syntax - or i'm doing something else wrong: http://p173.de/gp/index.php?id=58e60d1e4e [10:03:02] i just want to show a fixed string if a template variable isn't set [10:04:27] but instead it always shows '{{{Hostname}}}' if that variable is not set [10:04:37] {{{Hostname|}}} [10:04:40] you miss | [10:06:24] Sasa^Stefanovic: ok, that would work if I wouldn't also use SemanticMediaWiki extension, I guess [10:07:38] Sasa^Stefanovic: because otherwise the empty string would cause trouble in the [[Hostname::{{{Hostname|}}}]] statement - right? i'm new to all this stuff... [10:09:12] did you look at some examples on en: wikipedia [10:10:06] {{#if:{{{related|}}} | {{{related}}} [[Category:"Related ethnic groups" needing confirmation]] }} [10:12:20] Sasa^Stefanovic: now i get it. I even need the | in the evaluation [10:12:33] Sasa^Stefanovic: thanks for the idiot-proof example ;) [10:12:42] it's not that ... but np :) [10:14:04] Sasa^Stefanovic: care to explain? i never saw that | in all the examples I looked at... [10:15:04] i think its eye problem, not mw technical :P [10:17:32] no, it's "I didn't know about default values" problem, and wanted to do exactly that with an if expression, but didn't get it right [10:17:39] anyway... got to go [10:19:59] ok [10:20:01] have a nice day [10:23:38] flyingparchment, what are you thinking of ? A maintenance script to update the count field ? Unique run, then the counts are properly updated on every change ? [10:29:47] NicDumZ: see the existing script maintenacne/populateCategory.php [10:29:59] nice, thanks. [10:31:08] NicDumZ: and AFAIK it has run for all WMF projects 1-2 weeks ago [10:31:53] Yes, so last dump (around 15th) has empty counts [10:45:57] *Werdna waves TimStarling [10:45:59] upgraded? [10:46:48] no, it didn't work [10:47:04] I had to reinstall 7.10 from scratch [10:47:05] from xp to vista ? :P [10:47:34] no, ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04 [10:48:27] i have 8.04 behing me, here is fedora, and near me is 7.10 with some problems with upgrading too [10:48:32] behind* [10:49:02] what happened with 8.04? [10:49:52] sound didn't work properly, just made a loud annoying noise instead [10:50:26] it didn't use the right graphics driver, and the generic vesa driver didn't work (it does work on 7.10) [11:01:05] how can I backup mediawiki ? [11:02:20] !backup [11:02:20] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki [11:04:02] thanks [11:06:03] is it possible to give view/edit access to certain users? Other users/guest must not have acess (even view) [11:11:09] 03siebrand * r32654 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesLad.php: Set Spanish as fall back language [11:13:24] !restrictaccess [11:13:24] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "restrictaccess". [11:13:26] !access [11:13:26] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [11:13:34] Nineth: ^^ [11:13:48] :) [11:22:36] 03(mod) Editsection Links should come after Section Headlines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11555 (10raimond.spekking) [11:22:37] 03(mod) Markup accessibility issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367 (10raimond.spekking) [11:34:28] 03(mod) Different diff-colors no to discriminate red-green color blinds - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11374 (10rene.kijewski) [11:34:33] 03(mod) Markup accessibility issues (tracking) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367 (10rene.kijewski) [11:54:58] How hard would it be to convert this into an extension? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6943 [12:17:06] hey, i am trying to modify the skin so i lose the sidebar. I deleted all the elements but i still have empty space, which css should i change? [12:26:33] hey, i am trying to modify the skin so i lose the sidebar. I deleted all the elements but i still have empty space, which css should i change? [12:27:44] 03(NEW) maintenance/rebuildrecentchanges.php fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13576 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (siebrand) [12:28:44] 03(WONTFIX) Suport for character '' (two seperate quotes) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8097 +comment (10siebrand) [12:34:14] 03(mod) Preemptively fix possible weak type-checking errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12769 +comment (10siebrand) [12:46:07] 03(NEW) Unusedcategories & Mostlinkedcategories could use the new category table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13577 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (nicdumz) [12:46:28] ^ + patch [12:46:53] timstarling http://kubasik.net/blog/2008/03/31/sound-problems-in-ubuntu-hardy/ [12:53:07] hey, i am trying to modify the skin so i lose the sidebar. I deleted all the elements but i still have empty space, which css should i change? [12:53:29] sta je timestarling? [12:53:50] it's a name [12:53:52] Tim Starling [12:53:56] not time [12:54:10] and ... about your msg, just wait, if someone knows he will answer you [12:54:11] ah thx [12:54:23] don't need to write it so many time [12:54:25] times* [12:54:26] i am just repeating for people coming in [12:55:10] :) [12:55:26] xD [13:00:33] timichal, [13:01:17] sorry, mistype, highlight not intended ^ [13:02:00] np :) [13:04:07] Good morning, folks. [13:04:34] Ihave a question regarding the default css blocks on the page [13:04:52] I want to add a new block, that will appear above the column-content block [13:05:04] I'm only using the monobook skin [13:05:23] 03(mod) $wgUsersNotifedOnAllChanges is misspelled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13562 +comment (10siebrand) [13:05:44] I can't seem to figure out when I should be editing a file vs. using editing the page insidfe the wiki, like Mediawiki:Common.css [13:05:49] and which file to edit to accomplish this [13:05:55] any thoughts? [13:08:23] Zhinjio: Never try to import enwiki if you ave bad time. [13:18:43] 03minuteelectron * r32655 10/trunk/extensions/Mibbit/ (. Mibbit.i18n.php Mibbit.php Mibbit_body.php): Committing Mibbit extension 1.0, integrates the Mibbit web IRC client into a special page. [13:19:52] Why is so many pasting that crap in here? [13:25:01] ? It is a bot to track bugzilla & svn updates [13:32:59] 03(mod) Editsection Links should come after Section Headlines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11555 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [13:37:07] !nowiki [13:37:07] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "nowiki". [13:37:17] ! [13:37:17] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "". [13:44:49] 03huji * r32656 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES maintenance/rebuildrecentchanges.inc): (bug 13576) maintenance/rebuildrecentchanges.php fails [13:45:12] 03(FIXED) maintenance/rebuildrecentchanges.php fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13576 +comment (10huji.huji) [13:46:36] Can I set up Namespaces that can only be read by a specific group? [13:46:59] !lockdown | roam [13:46:59] --mwbot-- roam: Lockdown is an extension for preventing read or write access by namespace and limiting access to special pages. For more information, see < http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown >. For general information on preventing access to your wiki, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [13:47:45] tnx [13:51:07] 14(INVALID) Tag mismatch in page rendering when editing sections on it:wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13568 +comment (10huji.huji) [13:57:05] ist lockdown better than http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NamespacePermissions [13:58:07] 03siebrand * r32657 10/trunk/extensions/Mibbit/ (Mibbit.i18n.php Mibbit_body.php): Some minor tweaks [13:59:46] I can not get xxx to work in mediawiki-1.12.0, any idea? [14:01:15] BjornH, what do you expect it to do? [14:01:21] Do you have a link to where it doesn't work? [14:03:45] 03siebrand * r32658 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for Mibbit [14:03:53] Simetrical, only to show as is is but now it work??? Why not before? Have set up an new wiki at http://bojkott.vishet.se/BojkottWiki/index.php/Grupper but it is in Swedish... [14:05:11] 03siebrand * r32659 10/trunk/extensions/Mibbit/Mibbit.i18n.php: Special page display name tweak [14:05:32] BjornH, it's working correctly on your main page. [14:05:51] [[Kategori|Kategori]] -> [[Kategori|Kategori]] [14:05:55] That's what's supposed to happen. [14:06:05] Simetrical, yes now but not before I wite here... [14:06:14] (write) [14:06:38] BjornH, I need a link to a page where it's not working. Otherwise I don't know what you're talking about. [14:07:58] It was that link I send but it work now! Search for grupper [14:08:12] 03minuteelectron * r32660 10/trunk/extensions/Mibbit/ (Mibbit.php Mibbit_body.php): Reduce height of iframe. [14:11:44] MinuteElectron, for the mibbit ext, do you have screenshots? :D [14:13:20] Warpath: nope, I can if you want though [14:14:21] nah, just to add to the extension :) [14:14:48] erm, ok [14:15:40] http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Mibbit kewl [14:18:14] Hi, I'm converting data from an old wiki to mediawiki. In the old code there is signs like %I% which is shown as a little warning gif image. [14:18:46] My questions are: does mediawiki have similar icons, I can't find the code for it. [14:19:00] Warpath: have a screenshot [14:19:11] And I have to change a lot of them, is there a more ellegant method than sed -i on a mysqldump? [14:19:20] add to extension :) [14:19:29] ooh :) [14:20:47] yeah, i did that already :) [14:20:52] except the cache is lame [14:25:28] :P [14:34:26] I've changed $IP for "http://wiki.example.com" then $wgScriptPath for "" since the wiki subdomain points directly to the mediawiki directory.... things won't work with this changed... I get Warning: require_once() [function.require-once]: URL file-access is disabled in the server configuration in .../example.com/wiki/mediawiki/LocalSettings.php on line 23 [14:34:32] line 23 is require_once( "$IP/includes/DefaultSettings.php" ); ... that looks good to me.. it should point to wiki.example.com/includes/Def...php which is in fact example.com/wiki/mediawiki/includes/Def...php [14:36:52] Max_-, $IP should not normally be set to a remote address. [14:37:01] It should be set to a local filesystem directory. [14:37:13] Specifically, the directory where the wiki software is installed. [14:37:31] An example on Unix-likes is "/var/www/w", or "/var/www/html/w". [14:37:37] oh... and it should be from the very root of the server or from [14:37:38] okkk [14:37:50] I'll try something [14:37:55] Normally it should be set correctly by default when you install. [14:41:05] yes... it was set correctly for not using the subdomain.. now it works with the subdomain :) [14:41:56] only thing left... maybe find a rewrite rule for this [14:45:59] hail pros! I am running several instances of mediawiki on many vhost's subdomains ... i didn't find anything about sharing the source (like with TYPO3) - is the installation of the complete tarball for all hosts the only solution? [14:54:39] i want to develop special mediawiki extensions and searched for the extension api documentation with no success. could anyone point me to it? [14:55:29] !extensions [14:55:29] --mwbot-- MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See for an overview of known extensions. [14:55:39] mlaci, ^^ [14:55:51] in fact i think that developping extensions != developping applications with the api [14:56:00] That's correct. [14:57:57] i'm afraid that there's no extension api documentation available. does every extension author rely on rtfs? i hoped there's an easier way [14:58:27] not really [14:58:42] we have basic code documentation, but really reading the source is the only way to find stuff out [14:58:59] see http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/ but comments are so incomplete it is very difficult to use [14:59:20] i see. thanks [15:00:50] speaking of which [15:01:10] I wonder if it would be permitted to go round commenting stuff [15:02:21] i guess ask the original authors if it's okay, then go ahead [15:02:49] the "original authors" of what? [15:03:54] well i just joined in the middle of your conversation.......but are you talking about going and adding comments to extensions that people have written that don't explain themselves well in comments? [15:04:24] no, comments to the core code [15:04:30] oh [15:04:39] i.e. function documentation [15:04:44] ok [15:05:13] i dunno then [15:05:25] :P [15:06:53] Would someone please tell me the name of the extension I need to make the table on the right side of this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Glita ? [15:08:45] Hi, how do I make the tags of my mediawiki implementation do the same as say wikipedia's? [15:10:10] how do I realize multi hosting of mediawiki on my server? I tried with linking - but that's not working properly ... any ideas? [15:13:16] !syntaxhighlighting | juc0 [15:13:16] --mwbot-- juc0: I don't know anything about "syntaxhighlighting". [15:13:20] !syntax [15:13:20] --mwbot-- For help with MediaWiki's Wikitext syntax, please see . For an (incomplete) formal specification, see . [15:13:27] !highlight [15:13:27] --mwbot-- there are several extensions for syntax highlighting, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Syntax_highlighting - the most popular one is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi [15:13:31] !highlight | juc0 [15:13:31] --mwbot-- juc0: there are several extensions for syntax highlighting, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Syntax_highlighting - the most popular one is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi [15:14:12] 03ialex * r32661 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Revision.php: [15:14:12] * Marked Revision::compressRevisionText() as static [15:14:12] * $fname -> __METHOD__ [15:14:15] Thank you MinuteElectron [15:14:26] yw [15:15:46] Is it an infobox? [15:16:15] hi Ihr [15:18:49] Jakes: yes [15:18:52] hi [15:19:13] Thanks Minute [15:19:17] anybody knows how to share one mediawiki source tree between several hosts? [15:19:21] How can I reset the WikiSysop password? I seems that it's not the standard reset procedure like other users [15:19:26] Vince42: nfs, rsync [15:19:37] !farm | Vince42 [15:19:37] --mwbot-- Vince42: To run multiple wikis, you do not need anything more than to run one wiki. You simply install them in different folders, and if possible using seperate databases. If you only have one database, simply use a different table prefix. For more advanced setups, see [15:19:45] fosco: there's nothing special about an account called 'wikisysop'. just use the email me a new password, if you set an email address [15:20:20] thx - I'll check that out :) [15:20:41] flyingparchment: maybe I wasn't clear :) How can I reset the "admin" account [15:20:55] there is no difference [15:21:00] an admin account is like any other [15:21:01] there clearly is [15:21:03] fosco, it's the same as any account. [15:21:04] There's not. [15:21:19] Nowhere in the entire software is there any checking of user ID or user name to assign special privileges. [15:21:27] if I update using changePassword.php my account, it works [15:21:42] like it would for any other account [15:21:43] Whatever it is, it doesn't have to do with it being WikiSysop. [15:21:47] if I update using changePassword.php the account 'WikiSysop', user_id '1', it fails [15:22:49] fosco, with what message? [15:23:21] it updates the password, but I cannot login with the username I see in the database [15:23:43] maybe the account is disabled, is there some possibility to check that? [15:24:34] there is no such thing as a disabled account [15:24:43] even if it were blocked you could still log in [15:24:43] What happens when you try to log in? [15:24:48] are you able to log in with the old pw? [15:26:08] I don't have the old password, if I had, I would simply change it via mediawiki :) [15:26:28] Simetrical: mediawiki says the password is incorrect [15:27:20] fosco, make sure you've entered it correctly in both places. [15:27:28] You probably miscopied it in one place or the other. [15:28:08] no [15:28:19] I don't believe you. :) [15:28:38] Try again. Make it something simple so you can type it out carefully by hand. [15:28:38] or maybe you put some illegal characters in the password? does MW disallow certain characters in the password that might not have been caught since he used a script and not MW to change it? [15:28:42] Smaug, no. [15:28:51] Anything that can be put in an MD5 hash should work. [15:28:56] Up to the size of the POST limit. [15:28:58] Simetrical: I'm not completely stupid [15:29:17] fosco, anyone can make mistakes. [15:29:18] the password is a plain text, 4 bytes [15:29:48] You could try manually resetting the password in the database. [15:30:12] that didn't worked either [15:30:14] Should be MD5(CONCAT(userid,'-','password')) or something, I think. [15:30:32] Well, you're doing something wrong, then. If it says the password is wrong, it's wrong. [15:30:36] > update user set user_password=MD5(CONCAT(user_id, '-', MD5('toto'))) where user_name='WikiSysop'; [15:30:40] Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) [15:30:42] Rows matched: 1 Changed: 0 Warnings: 0 [15:31:06] Are you sure it's the right database? [15:31:07] 03aaron * r32662 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/deleteArchivedFiles.inc: Check for hidden images [15:31:15] *Simetrical has sometimes edited the wrong config file before. [15:31:17] and I cannot log in with WikiSysop/toto [15:31:48] Simetrical, your comment " Smaug, no." shows up orange. why? is it some feature of IRC or are you communicating annoyance with my not knowing about MD5 [15:32:06] Smaug, probably your client highlights any line that contains your name. [15:32:26] ok [15:32:43] 7I can write in orange too, though. [15:32:53] No, that seems to be olive for me. [15:32:55] Or something. [15:32:57] Oh well. [15:33:00] :) it's orange for me [15:33:00] it prints in brown here :) [15:33:18] crazy [15:33:31] orangeforme [15:33:42] hi [15:33:50] hi [15:34:45] i am getting errors when use "Go to" function search to article with czech language characters in the name [15:34:58] funkcie „LinkCache::addLinkObj“. MySQL vrátil chybu „1267: Illegal mix of collations (utf8_bin,IMPLICIT) and (cp1250_general_ci,COERCIBLE) for operation '=' (localhost)“. [15:35:26] only when the article doesnt exist [15:35:35] if it exists, it returns the articl [15:36:30] where might be a problem? [15:38:59] if I use [Find] button, the search is correct without error [15:39:08] only with [Go to] [15:39:16] woohoo that's ugly ^ [15:39:21] where does this happen ? [15:39:42] not foundation project [15:39:54] but it is mediawiki [15:40:33] 03(mod) Block element written inline splits multiline paragraphs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5718 +need-review +patch (10mormegil) [15:41:21] 03(NEW) Create additional crucial namespaces for [als] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13578 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (Wiki.Melancholie) [15:42:02] 03(mod) Create additional crucial namespaces on [als] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13578 summary (10Wiki.Melancholie) [15:43:00] 03(mod) Create additional crucial namespaces on [als] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13578 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [15:44:18] 03greg * r32663 10/trunk/extensions/TitleKey/titlekey.pg.sql: Postgres version of schema. [15:50:04] Simetrical: yes, it's the good db :( [15:51:58] How hard would it be to convert this into an extension? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6943 [16:11:25] 03greg * r32664 10/trunk/extensions/TitleKey/TitleKey_body.php: Use correct schema file when running an update. [16:12:30] NicDumZ: do you have any idea? [16:12:41] no :( [16:15:13] Hello? [16:16:24] why would you need it as an extension ? [16:17:21] there is a patch, which is likely to be added to the trunk in a few days [16:37:15] I need it as a patch, because I need it on a Wikia wiki very soon. [16:37:19] *extension [16:52:29] hi i got a question.. is it possible to hold users in 3 categories? i cant find any information about it ... like i just need 3 base categories and just want that somebody can fill out pages in these 3 categories [16:52:45] !access | julian_ [16:52:45] --mwbot-- julian_: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [16:52:47] these categories can of course have subcats [16:52:49] julian_: but probably not. [16:53:07] any extension available for something like that [17:00:37] hello! I am reading this from the FAQ; http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ#How_do_I_add_w:Metatags [17:04:39] derwin: do you know a wiki which has these features? maybe not a qoog question in here :) [17:09:10] faceface: thanks for the update [17:20:19] derwin: thank you for your information, but for your information and maybe some later (if another user asks about it) it is possible to lock usersinto categories through the ACL extension. but thanks anyway :) [17:20:45] cool :) [17:26:50] I am not sure which file I should add this to $wgOut->addMeta ( 'KEYWORDS' , $a.', your Keywords, Comma separated') ; [17:26:55] derwin: sorry... I got distracted ;-) [17:27:09] I put that in Localsettings.php - but it didn't work [17:27:42] Hi, i wanna know if is there a way to prevent anonymous users to see some pages? [17:27:58] Undefined variable: wgOut in... [17:28:00] !access | St0nedbr [17:28:00] --mwbot-- St0nedbr: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [17:28:09] faceface: global $wgOut; [17:28:12] do that first [17:28:20] thanks MinuteElectron [17:28:27] is that any problem within Localsettings? [17:30:26] no [17:31:37] ty [17:38:09] MinuteElectron: it still dosn't work! [17:38:31] global $wgOut; [17:38:33] $wgOut->addMeta ( 'KEYWORDS' , $a.', ...') [17:39:33] faceface: that looks like a function you have to use in your skin.php, but certainly not something you put in LocalSettings.php [17:39:41] MinuteElectron: Thank you [17:40:08] skiidoo: so I should put it in skin.php? [17:40:24] That's my guess. [17:40:26] OutputPage.php ? [17:40:45] faceface: $wgOut->addKeyword( 'value' ); [17:40:55] No, you should not mess up with the Mediawiki files that are not intended to. [17:41:02] ialex: in Localsettings? [17:41:16] I personnaly use an extension to add meta keywords. [17:41:30] faceface: no, $wgOut is not initialised at this time [17:42:14] ialex: where should I put that command? [17:42:31] faceface: you want to add the same to each page ? [17:43:06] ialex: yes [17:43:17] faceface: use an extension function then [17:43:24] one sec [17:45:43] faceface: something like that should word http://rafb.net/p/czqSur90.html (put it in LocalSettings.php) [17:46:36] amazing! [17:47:01] where do the other keywords come from btw? [17:47:16] I have several that seem to come from included tempates / images [17:47:51] faceface: links or templates [17:48:59] ialex: you mean the keywords come from links and templates? [17:49:46] faceface: the names of linked pages of templates you use in the wikitext of the page [17:49:53] s/of/or [17:50:16] ialex: thanks for the fix in rebuildrecentchanges.php [17:50:20] OK, so they change per page? [17:50:25] siebrand: it's not me [17:50:36] siebrand: it's Hojjat [17:50:44] if i'm right [17:51:00] hmm, my memory must be lacking. [17:51:03] ialex: where did you get that function? [17:51:04] :) [17:51:05] its great [17:51:17] faceface: efSetKeywords ? [17:51:55] yes [17:52:12] I'm trying to make boxes on my main page that corrispond to each of my wiki's categories. Can I make those boxes automatically link to the articles in those categories when an article is created? [17:52:12] faceface: i wrote it [17:53:24] ialex: thanks for the help... check this page... http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ#How_do_I_add_w:Metatags - I added your function [17:56:59] hello [17:58:58] hi Nikerabbit [17:59:23] hi ialex! [17:59:39] It's nice that there is active developers around [18:00:33] Hmmm [18:00:46] There's an extension that pretty does the same thing. [18:04:30] skiidoo, an extension that emulates active developers? [18:04:40] huhu :) [18:04:54] what's wrong in this? I just want wiki.example.com/$1 to be in fact wiki.example.com/index.php?title=$1 : RewriteRule ^/*$ index.php?title=$1 [L,QSA] [18:04:57] No, an extension that adds a bunch of metakeywords. [18:05:08] Could someone review https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13577 ? I think that I got it pretty, right, but... :) [18:05:32] And another one I use, that has some tag that allows you to define per page the meta{keywords,title,description} tags. [18:10:43] Max_-: see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL#example.com.2FPage_title [18:14:15] NicDumZ: I assume both special pages could be removed from QueryPage.php if they are not longer expensive. but just a thought, not tested. [18:15:04] Raymond_, I was taking about that overloading function isExpensive () { return true; } that I removed [18:16:20] s/taking/just talking/ [18:17:43] NicDumZ, what's isExpensive () ? [18:18:44] Wiredtape: if the page is cached in Querycache table [18:18:52] Wiredtape, part of QueryPage interface : /* Is this query expensive ? */ [18:19:14] and updated with maintenance/updateSpecialPages.php [18:19:51] ialex, NicDumZ, thx :) [18:20:04] basically, the old query was operating a COUNT(*) for every category, which *was* expensive. It now only selects a field. [18:21:50] and Wiredtape, for QueryPage : isCached () { return $this->isExpensive() && $wgMiserMode; } [18:22:35] $wgMiserMode? [18:22:53] !wg MiserMode | Wiredtape [18:22:53] --mwbot-- Wiredtape: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgMiserMode [18:23:35] Wiredtape wonders how he hasn't heard of this before.. :) [18:26:03] 03(NEW) Category table should use category ID rather than category name in cl_to field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13579 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (roan.kattouw) [18:26:09] 03(mod) Category table should use category ID rather than category name in cl_to field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13579 (10roan.kattouw) [18:26:10] good to know, this is very helpful, thx NicDumZ, ialex.. [18:26:13] 03(mod) Things that could use a category table (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13326 (10roan.kattouw) [18:33:50] 03(NEW) SVG nesting of elements incorrect on Firefox ( works on IE6 and Opera). Includes workaround. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13580 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (FT2.wiki) [18:36:27] 03(mod) SVG nesting of elements incorrect on Firefox ( works on IE6/Opera). Includes workaround. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13580 summary (10FT2.wiki) [18:47:15] 03(mod) SVG nesting of elements incorrect on Firefox ( works on IE6/Opera). Includes workaround. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13580 (10FT2.wiki) [18:50:01] 03nikerabbit * r32665 10/trunk/extensions/CleanChanges/CleanChanges_body.php: * Fixed a bug with missing size info [18:51:46] 03(mod) Mozilla issues (Gecko, Firefox) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1381 +comment (10FT2.wiki) [18:57:23] 03(mod) SVG nesting of elements incorrect on Firefox ( works on IE6/Opera). Includes workaround. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13580 (10FT2.wiki) [18:57:46] 03(mod) SVG nesting of elements incorrect on Firefox ( works on IE6/Opera). Includes workaround. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13580 (10FT2.wiki) [19:01:27] 14(INVALID) SVG nesting of elements incorrect on Firefox ( works on IE6/Opera). Includes workaround. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13580 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [19:01:29] hey guys [19:01:33] hey [19:01:43] if I move my wiki to another folder, what settings do I have to change for it to work again? [19:02:09] right now, Firefox reports that Wiki is trying to redirect it in a loop [19:03:48] well.. in localsettings you should fix the scriptpath and article path settings.. and of course take care to change .htaccess if you haven't and so on.. [19:04:19] there's no .htaccess [19:04:33] I've been in LocalSettings, but it's rather cluttered... what do I have to change? [19:04:39] what variables [19:04:55] $wgArticlePath and the one next to it which i forget what is called [19:04:59] 03(NEW) SVG on Firefox doesn't recognize text decoration/ underline element - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13581 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (FT2.wiki) [19:06:25] 14(INVALID) SVG on Firefox doesn't recognize text decoration/ underline element - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13581 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [19:07:34] $wgScriptPath and $wgArticlePath are fine, Wiredtape [19:07:58] I've moved the wiki's domain... the actual structure stays the same (it's still /wiki in the new domain) [19:08:19] this is what FF reports: "Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete." [19:08:28] in other words, it's redirecting in a loop [19:08:57] there is another setting.. (i think auto-set in defaultsettings) $wgServerName [19:09:10] this should be overwritten in localsettings to point to new domain [19:09:19] you should have said "different domain" [19:09:49] sorry :P [19:10:46] but why doesn't it work now, and it used to work before? [19:11:00] after all, it IS auto-set each time DefaultSettings is ran [19:11:59] some settings are set on install [19:12:15] i think maybe the server name is set to the old domain.. and the old domain points to the new one [19:12:18] hence a loo[ [19:12:20] *op [19:12:55] the old domain doesn't point to the new one [19:13:09] well, then i don't know :) [19:13:16] and even if the new domain pointed to the old one [19:13:22] old one doesn't even exist [19:13:26] not anymore at least [19:13:36] gtg... argh, I hate errors [19:38:27] hi [19:38:36] i've isntalled the wiki [19:38:41] and i can't post anything [19:38:42] Your edit has been rejected because your client mangled the punctuation characters in the edit token. The edit has been rejected to prevent corruption of the page text. This sometimes happens when you are using a buggy web-based anonymous proxy service. [19:39:02] charset issues? [19:39:08] i don't know [19:39:14] what should i check: [19:39:14] ? [19:39:20] it is v.1.12.0 [19:39:23] on FreeBSD [19:39:31] i've installed it from ports [19:41:26] anybody can help me? [19:42:18] Try a different browser? [19:42:34] tried, no result [19:42:38] Opera and IE7 [19:43:03] i've isntalled WIKI into Romanian language [19:43:04] Is the FreeBSD machine on the same LAN as the Windoze machine? [19:43:08] could it be the probem? [19:43:15] look at charset in localsettings.php? [19:43:28] k4jcw> through VPN [19:43:32] issue is probably charset if you are using romanian [19:43:47] # Experimental charset support for MySQL 4.1/5.0. [19:43:47] $wgDBmysql5 = true; [19:43:56] it was "false", i tried with true [19:43:58] no difference [19:44:09] derwin> so how can i resolve it? [19:44:17] Here's the thing. You're starting with too many changed variables. When you have a problem, you reduce it to a minimum test case. [19:44:41] In this case, installing it in English, out of the box. See if it works. If it does, then start changing things one by one, until it's either as you like it, or you break it. [19:44:41] k4jcw> it is a fresh installation [19:45:01] ok. i'll try to install it in English [19:45:03] You said you changed it to Romanian. That's not 'fresh', that's edited. [19:45:20] no. i've installed it in ROmainan from the beggining [19:45:32] i haven't done manual changes [19:45:52] Fair enough. I'd still start with the most vanilla install possible. ANd that's probably in English. [19:46:14] k [19:46:19] i;m doo it in 5 min [19:51:16] what Database character set should i set? [19:51:22] Backwards-compatible UTF-8 [19:51:22] Experimental MySQL 4.1/5.0 UTF-8 [19:51:22] Experimental MySQL 4.1/5.0 binary [19:51:25] ? [19:53:58] what Database character set should i set? [19:56:21] In English, the same error [19:56:22] http://www.pastebin.ca/966509 [19:57:30] anybody could help me? [20:05:51] 03(NEW) rebuildrecentchanges. php misses size difference and log entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13582 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (siebrand) [20:09:38] 03(mod) Category table should use category ID rather than category name in cl_to field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13579 (10huji.huji) [20:10:11] 03(mod) Unusedcategories & Mostlinkedcategories could use the new category table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13577 (10huji.huji) [20:10:20] is huji on irc? [20:10:47] 03(NEW) No "poweredby" in Modern skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13583 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Modern skin; (siebrand) [20:11:02] carl-m: you see he's not here. his id is hojjat [20:11:17] thanks, I didn't know his irc name [20:21:15] so, who can support me? [20:21:26] to solve my problem [20:29:16] maxXxim: first, state your problem [20:32:01] 03(NEW) Modern skin does not implement MonoBookTemplateToolboxEnd - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13584 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Modern skin; (siebrand) [20:32:57] 03(mod) Modern skin does not implement MonoBookTemplateToolboxEnd - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13584 (10brion) [20:40:42] Hi [20:45:33] 03grondin * r32666 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFr.php: Localisation updates for extensions messages from Betawiki [20:46:08] brion: What is the current stance regarding function documentation in code, would it be permitted for someone to add it? [20:46:23] uh.. why would documentation not be allowed? [20:46:48] i don't know, i just don't want to be clogging up the commits with documentation [20:46:57] 03greg * r32667 10/trunk/extensions/METIS/METIS.pg.sql: Add Postgres version of schema. [20:46:58] i'd like to add it, it'd make mine and others lives easier [20:47:16] As opposed to all those translation clogs? :) [20:47:23] but i might get reverted for some odd reason that nobody knows [20:47:29] :P [20:47:41] flyingparchment: so you think i could just go ahead and do it? [20:49:47] MinuteElectron: you may notice that most functions have documentation on them [20:49:53] so....... i think it's allowed? :) [20:50:03] brion: ok [20:50:15] i do, however, think "most" is an overstatement ;) [20:51:09] if i could only get this damn php apache module working... [20:52:02] brion: hi, I'm wondering if you got my mail about svn access. I sent it on 25th of March...I wonder if it ever reached you or if you've just been busy :-) [20:52:33] i'm behind on svn accounts [20:52:38] will get to them when i get to em [20:52:53] cool, thanks :) [20:53:06] Quick support question if anyone has time - We are suddenly having a cookie/session issue where you can log in, but once you navigate away from the "login successful" page, the login disconnects. We haven't changed anything in our settings. Any idea why?" [20:54:40] *AaronSchulz prods brion about bug 13459 [20:55:06] no prods will be paid attention to until i'm through the queue [20:55:12] nothing will be added to the queue until i'm through the queue [20:55:15] sorry :) [20:55:39] hehe [20:57:42] brion: I better have a few things on that queue you speak of :-| [20:57:55] unless you're talking about svn accounts specifically [20:58:08] then nevermind ;-) [20:59:10] hmm, so that's why documentation appears so empty - doxygen remove c style comments [21:01:11] is it just me or has imagemagick gotten a lot better at rendering svgs? the ones i've tested locally haven't looked like shit as much as they used to :D [21:14:28] 03greg * r32668 10/trunk/extensions/AjaxShowEditors/patch-editings.pg.sql: Fix up schema. [21:20:39] I'm working on a moin2mediawiki conversion script and I was wondering if anyone was familiar with mediawiki's attachment system and could answer some questions / talk about it a bit. [21:20:47] Is there any way to mass upload a bunch of files? [21:20:51] around 4000 ? [21:21:54] 03greg * r32669 10/trunk/extensions/Vote/vote.pg.sql: Postgres version of schema. [21:23:08] mmcgrath, there's a maintenance script. [21:23:36] mmcgrath, maintenance/importImages.php [21:23:48] *mmcgrath looks [21:25:49] 03greg * r32670 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/openid_table.pg.sql: Postgres version of schema. Extension not tested with Postgres yet. [21:27:55] the heck [21:28:00] Special:Userrights looks a little crazy now [21:30:58] Werdna: yo :) [21:33:47] brion: where? [21:34:00] AzaTht: where what? [21:34:12] ah, you mean in trunk [21:34:16] ya [21:34:22] 03(mod) Categorylinks table should use category ID rather than category name in cl_to field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13579 summary; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [21:34:23] 03(mod) Things that could use a category table (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13326 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [21:34:32] 03(mod) list=allcategories should use category table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13395 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [21:34:34] 03(mod) Things that could use a category table (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13326 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [21:34:53] brion, isn't this basically what we said was a good idea? Checkboxes or something instead of listboxes? [21:35:16] Simetrical: yes, but i think the layout's a bit odd atm :) [21:35:24] currently there's one line listing out the memberships with links [21:35:34] then a second line with checkboxes for all possible groups [21:35:47] 1) there's some repetition there which seems a bit odd to me [21:36:03] 2) there's no doc page links for groups the user isn't currently a member of [21:36:20] Well, you might want to be able to tell which groups you're adding and which the user already had, which you no longer can easily tell by looking. [21:36:22] 3) a horizontal line of check boxes isn't really good practice imo [21:36:27] *Simetrical nods [21:36:32] We do it on Special:Search and it sucks. [21:36:44] 03huji * r32671 10/trunk/ (93 files in 3 dirs): Migrating oversight-related messages from the MediaWiki message files to the extension i18n file. [21:36:52] my inclination is to place them in a single, vertical set, with links from the text [21:37:14] Lots of horizontal space, then. Maybe have parenthetical comments as to which groups the user already has, in that case. [21:37:19] Or multicolumn. [21:37:34] i don't see much reason to separately indicate what they already have [21:37:44] if you've forgotten in the five seconds since you clicked them, .... :) [21:37:49] werdna did do i mockup using columns [21:37:52] it looked quite nice [21:38:09] there would need to be someway to automatically lay them out and add more columns as needed due to screen resolution [21:38:59] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Image:New_UserRights_Interface_-_Lotsa_Rights.jpg [21:39:06] that one ^^ [21:39:40] MinuteElectron, grah. Use PNG for screenshots of solid colors, not JPG. [21:39:45] *Simetrical snarls at artifacting [21:39:47] *Simetrical goes to schhol [21:39:49] school [21:39:58] :P [21:40:07] Simetrical: don't scream at me [21:40:17] i didn't use jpg, pfft who do you think i am! ;) [21:40:35] *brion hmms [21:41:02] blame Werdna!!! [21:43:35] *AaronSchulz likes the horizontal columns [21:43:50] horizontal columns? [21:44:13] or rows I should say [21:45:46] ah. timjoh is also planning to work on category moving for GSoC :( [21:46:44] AaronSchulz: you mean, link http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/archive/8/81/20080331114732!New_UserRights_Interface_-_Lotsa_Rights.jpg ? [21:47:10] it should make columns when the rows get long [21:47:17] so it would have both [21:48:50] mebbe [21:50:54] hrwiki has a nice hack that jumbles the words in sentences throughout the wiki: http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page [21:52:04] Yeah [21:52:31] On the talk page of Main Page, it explains [21:52:36] But still garbled [21:58:41] 03aaron * r32672 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: [21:58:41] rev_deleted merge: [21:58:41] * Add some messages [22:09:05] 03(FIXED) Create "Click" extension component - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13552 +comment (10brion) [22:12:10] 03(mod) Strange random problems with the parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13553 (10brion) [22:15:39] 03(mod) $wgUsersNotifedOnAllChanges is misspelled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13562 (10brion) [22:17:44] Question: Is there a way to grab the number of articles in a category for the use in a table? [22:19:59] Another question: Is there anyone here? [22:20:06] *Smaug is here [22:20:14] *padde too [22:20:17] you can't grab # of articles in a category [22:20:20] (that I know of) [22:20:28] but you can grab # of articles in a namespace [22:20:40] Darn, so I will have to update the table manually. [22:20:45] with {{PAGESINNS:NS}} [22:20:52] 03(WONTFIX) Printable version should not include editsection links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13571 +comment (10brion) [22:20:55] where NS is the namespace [22:20:55] Lady_Aleena: perhaps you're looking for the SemanticMediaWiki extension [22:21:14] What is that? [22:22:19] Lady_Aleena: read it yourself ;) http://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki [22:23:20] 03(mod) Special:Log search should be case-insensitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13572 summary; +comment (10brion) [22:23:52] Is it available for use on Wikipedia? [22:25:19] Lady_Aleena: no [22:25:32] padde: I don't think that will do what I want, and if it isn't already available on Wikipedia, then I can't use it. [22:25:38] why not? [22:25:48] are you editing a page on wikipedia or on a wiki of your own? [22:26:32] I wanted to make a table on Wikipedia that showed the amount of articles in various categories of interest to a WikiProject committee. [22:27:37] i can't see any way but manual then. :( [22:27:49] That is not a good thing. [22:27:53] Lady_Aleena: the extension does actually exactly what you want, and can do much more, and much better ;) but well, if it's not a Wiki where the extension is installed, I guess there's nothing you can do except editing the list manually... which is of course semi optimal [22:28:01] 03(mod) Categorylinks table should use category ID rather than category name in cl_to field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13579 (10brion) [22:28:10] why not just include a linkt to the category? [22:28:45] padde: I only edit Wikipedia (or its sisters). I have no interest in creating my own or editing anyone else's. [22:29:06] Lady_Aleena: I see. [22:29:54] I wish there were something like {{catcount|}}. [22:30:07] perhaps I can convince brion to install the extension on Wikipedia? should only take a minute... [22:30:12] (it's still April 1st ;) [22:30:24] Brion? [22:30:34] Is he a god? [22:30:53] :) [22:31:18] when it comes to Wikipedia... then I'd say, yes ;) depends on the exact definition of god, of course [22:32:24] semantic is intense, it would change WP a lot if it were added [22:32:46] Smaug: i'm aware of that... [22:33:03] i'm just commenting [22:33:44] padde and Smaug: I am not really code savy and the page I was referred to seemed pretty dense. I didn't see a heading for Category count or some such. [22:34:25] Smaug: it would be uber-helpful on Wikipedia, though, imo ;) [22:36:30] Lady_Aleena: its in the works [22:36:44] category count being? [22:36:49] {{PAGESINCATEGORY:cat name}} [22:36:55] ah [22:36:58] there's a patch for that already [22:37:00] (that works) [22:37:04] MrZ-man...WOW! [22:37:12] lemme get the bug # [22:37:16] Skizzerz: I hope it works, I wrote it [22:37:20] :) [22:37:28] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6943 [22:37:30] MrZ-man: it's used on StrategyWiki, if that gives you comfort ;) [22:37:46] will it be a Magic Word in 1.13 (or is it already one in 1.12?)? [22:38:05] Did I spark interest in it again, or the idea? [22:38:05] Smaug: it's a manual patch, unfortunately. not in core by default [22:38:18] *Skizzerz reminds himself to bug brion about committing it [22:38:25] yeah, but is there discussion to put it in yet? [22:38:34] or better yet, /me bugs brio about committing it [22:38:37] *brion [22:38:45] wot [22:38:50] i've heard this type of thing desired before, by others [22:39:12] Lady_Aleena: it was proposed a couple years ago, but not really feasible on Wikimedia until recently [22:39:16] brion: adding a PAGESINCATEGORY magic word to core [22:39:59] I really really really would like it to be added. Pretty please with good stuff on top? [22:41:08] *Lady_Aleena will then have to figure out how to assign a name to each so that they numbers can be added for a total, but that is a parser function, so it will be somewhere, she hopes. [22:41:22] brion [22:41:23] hi [22:41:33] 03aaron * r32673 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ChangesList.php: Improve log handling for Enhanced RC [22:41:35] do you want edits renamed? [22:41:58] brion there is a relatively urgent issue I'd like to talk to you about [22:42:23] unless there is an urgent maintanance of some sort, we really should discuss this [22:43:12] ^_^ [22:43:54] 03aaron * r32674 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/rebuildrecentchanges.inc: [22:43:54] * Add log events [22:43:54] * Play around with size stuff a little [22:43:54] * Use "__METHOD__" [22:43:57] white_cat needs another urgent username change [22:44:08] flyingparchment I am not joking [22:45:10] hehe [22:46:03] oh and by the way flyingparchment, I'm done with the update of MostLinkedCategories & UnusedCategories ;) [22:46:24] *Lady_Aleena bounces in anticipation of a new magic word. [22:47:02] new magic word ? [22:48:05] NicDumZ: I am hoping that PAGESINCATEGORY will be added. I have a need for it for a WikiProject committee of which I am a part. [22:48:29] 03(FIXED) rebuildrecentchanges.php misses size difference and log entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13582 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [22:48:55] brb [22:48:56] oh, well that will be added in a few days, some weeks at most. [22:49:11] White_Cat: what's up [22:49:52] brion pm [22:49:56] its sensative :) [22:50:02] Oh blast, I would like it to have been within the next few hours. I really don't want to have to do this table manually. :S [22:50:42] Lady_Aleena: lol [22:51:05] 03aaron * r32675 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Use 'suppress' right rather than 'oversight' [22:51:28] *AaronSchulz hacks about [22:51:34] padde: What is so funny? What I was hoping to do is kind of time sensitive. [22:52:07] 03siebrand * r32676 10/trunk/extensions/Oversight/HideRevision.i18n.php: Rebuilt all languages [22:52:57] Lady_Aleena, a patch has been submitted. Why do you need it to be added to the trunk ? You can use it already. [22:53:06] can we change oversight -> overseer ? :) [22:53:08] Lady_Aleena: well, I don't know exactly about Wikipedia's policies - but any "big" project won't just include a new patch without extensive testing [22:53:16] I can? [22:53:18] NicDumZ: she wants it to be in Wikipedia now [22:53:49] ah. [22:57:14] So, I am back to manual. *sigh* Oh well, it was a long shot. [22:59:43] can't you work on the last dumped categorylinks ? [23:00:39] this is just a few sql queries... [23:03:06] The reason that I thought this might already be possible is that when I am in a category, I see something like this "The following 200 pages are in this category, out of 385 total." How does Wikipedia get that total, and can users use it in other places? [23:04:52] Lady_Aleena: You're trying to build a wikitable? [23:04:57] Yes. [23:05:23] Do you know what the Toolserver is? [23:05:39] No, I do not. [23:05:41] 03siebrand * r32677 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (42 files): Rebuilt all language files, removed obsolete messages. [23:06:06] !toolserver | Lady_Aleena [23:06:06] --mwbot-- Lady_Aleena: The Wikimedia Toolserver is a server with access to a (more or less) live copy of the database of all Wikimedia projects, for use with user scripts and utilities. Access is granted on request on a case-by-case basis. See and for more information. [23:06:28] It has a featured called the query service... [23:07:14] http://wiki.ts.wikimedia.org/view/Query_service [23:07:14] That's the simplest way to get data extracted from the database. [23:07:17] *Lady_Aleena waits for it to load. [23:07:20] You can even (try to) request tools there. [23:08:04] MZMcBride: up for some coding? [23:08:14] I can't code. :( [23:08:30] ¡b 12548 | MZMcBride [23:08:33] !b 12548 | MZMcBride [23:08:33] --mwbot-- MZMcBride: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12548 [23:08:34] I point and say "It broke, please fix" usually. ;) [23:08:39] hehe [23:08:56] AaronSchulz: here/ [23:08:58] ? [23:13:42] brion: Any chance of wikitable styling ever been included in main.css? [23:15:12] 03aaron * r32678 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/rebuildrecentchanges.inc: $wgMiserMode [23:15:35] 03(NEW) Maintain active user count for Special:Statistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13585 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (brion) [23:17:12] I don't know what I am looking for on toolserver. [23:21:14] 03siebrand * r32679 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Process omissions in r32672. And WTF are variables renumbered? This actually breaks the message in all localisations. [23:22:36] Hi [23:22:43] how do i delete a user? [23:23:39] chop: you can't delete a user account [23:23:47] you can rename it though, if you ahve bureaucrat access [23:24:00] where are we talking? [23:24:39] is this your personal wiki, wikia, a wikimedia site... ? [23:24:56] are u asking me? [23:25:20] yes [23:25:28] yes.. its my wiki [23:25:32] i made a test user.. [23:25:38] to test some rights.. [23:25:40] 03aaron * r32680 10/trunk/extensions/Oversight/HideRevision.i18n.php: Remove unneeded messages from r32671 [23:25:42] now i want to delete it [23:26:57] you understand that deleting a user will break your database, right? it's a relational database, and if you delete an entry that's affected other entries (such as the log table), you'll damage it. [23:27:18] ok.. i got the point.. [23:27:19] if you're doing it for experimental work, you can peek at http://www.infocopter.com/know-how/mediawiki-reference/user-management.html [23:27:33] but don't do it on a real wiki, or you'll piss off all your users. :) [23:27:35] chop: why don't you just rename the user to Test User and revoke all rights? [23:28:06] i wont delete it from sql.. [23:28:21] i looked for some info on mediawiki site. .about deleting users.. [23:28:31] i`ll just block it infinitly [23:28:42] easier to do, less trouble for you later. [23:29:08] ok..now one more Q.. i want to disable users to edit my pages.. [23:29:12] how do i do that? [23:30:13] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ#How_do_I_allow_only_authorized_users_to_edit_pages.3F [23:30:17] :) [23:31:48] ok.. [23:32:13] i dont want to let them edit..even if they are authorized [23:33:06] *Lady_Aleena hopes she didn't cause any trouble here. [23:34:47] then just modify the permission level to a permission that only you (or those who you want to edit) have [23:34:50] like, say, bureaucrat [23:37:41] how do i do that? [23:37:55] you'll need to change the code the way it says on the page I just linked to. [23:38:21] if you change the permission level to "sysop", then only people you set to sysop can edit, etc [23:47:55] chop: You can delete users. [23:48:25] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:User_Merge_and_Delete [23:48:36] The revisions must be reassigned, though. [23:49:09] where exactly is the css for monobook? I see only two like-named php files.. [23:49:35] and I think I have some pretty messed up css, after ugrading.. [23:50:24] MediaWiki:Monobook.css [23:52:30] OvrLrd-Q: under skins/common??? where is that? [23:53:52] I feel like it's almost working... mediawiki is working... now the rewrite has still a little problem... but I know it partially works since when I try to go to example.com/w it rewrites example.com/wiki/Main_Page but it only shows a 404 page instead of the actual Main_Page... kinda weird to me, I'm really not a pro in this! So well I've been browsing all day around with the links y'all provided [23:54:31] me and tried many many things together.. now here is my setup... I'd hugely appreciate if someone could point me the trouble http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=13923 [23:56:46] redirect /index.html http://www.yourwiki.com/wiki [23:56:50] matthew: its a wiki file called "MediaWiki:Monobook.css" in the MediaWiki namespace [23:56:53] put that in .htaccess [23:58:59] wouldn't it be index.php? [23:59:38] !rewriteproblems [23:59:38] --mwbot-- 1) Try as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root. [23:59:43] Smaug: by that you mean, in the database? Or in the code? [23:59:54] as u wish..