[00:00:17] should work with .php too [00:01:05] matthew: however you would navigate to a wiki page. i.e., if you would go to www.domain.tld/wiki/Help:Contents for Help:Contents, enter the url "www.domain.tld/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css" then press edit. [00:01:23] so it's in the database the same as any normal wiki-article [00:02:01] the MediaWiki namespace is a pretty cool place (Editable only by sysops), go to Special:allmessages to view all the default values of the default pages in the namespace,it's pretty fun. :) [00:02:09] MrZ-man: so you believe the problem is because the htaccess file is not in the root, but in /example.com/ ? [00:02:22] I have no idea [00:03:08] max_ error logs? [00:03:12] what do they say? [00:04:33] 03(NEW) ENGINE vs TYPE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13586 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (huji.huji) [00:10:34] chop: looks like all the logs I can see are access/ftp and some traffic information [00:12:35] brion: I'm here now [00:13:07] Werdna: hey :D [00:13:32] i think i was gonna suggest the vertical-oriented checkbox display for the userrights [00:13:39] multi columns are ok if it's a long list i guess [00:13:48] horizontal lists of checks always seem weird to me ;) [00:14:19] it only does a horizontal list of check if there are <8 rights [00:14:36] it's 8 only because of earlier prototypes [00:14:46] when I was doing it in 4 columns if there were >8 rights [00:15:07] I asked the stewards, since they're the people who actually have to use the damn thing, and they said they wanted one column for settable rights, and another for unsettable rights [00:15:14] which I duly did. [00:15:29] I guess I should change '8' to '3' or something, huh? [00:18:29] A single vertical column would be nice. [00:18:48] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Image:New_Userrights_interface_-_Columned_based_on_settability.jpg [00:18:52] this is current [00:18:55] I always get confused by tables of checkboxes where it's not obvious if you're supposed to read top to bottom or left to right first. [00:18:57] except for <8 rights [00:19:05] Why are you using JPG? :( [00:19:13] *Werdna hides [00:19:33] It artifacts for stuff like this and looks ugly, plus it's bigger. Use PNG for stuff that's mostly solid colors. [00:19:42] *Werdna hides. [00:21:34] 03rainman * r32681 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/ (78 files in 19 dirs): (log message trimmed) [00:21:34] rc1 \o/ [00:21:34] Suggest: [00:21:34] * suggest similar titles based on grams (title_ngram index) [00:21:34] * reintroduced phrase misspells to cut down the suggest time a bit [00:21:36] * global cleanup and minor bugs (stop words, missing other ns entries...) [00:21:38] Scoring: [00:24:01] Wernda: anondiss still having a fit :) [00:25:08] AaronSchulz: :D [00:26:07] aaaaarrrroooonnnnn o/` [00:26:11] debug my php? :) [00:28:29] 03werdna * r32682 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUserrights.php: Remove 8-group limit for putting Userrights options in columns - so they will always be in columns [00:28:34] AaronSchulz: I'm already up to date with all of the whining there. [00:28:39] brion: how's that? [00:28:42] 00:15 < CIA-44> werdna * r32682 /trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUserrights.php: Remove 8-group limit for putting Userrights options in columns - so they will always be in columns [00:29:37] Werdna: phantom "Groups you cannot change" column seems a bit odd for a local steward :) [00:29:43] but the overall look feels cleaner to me [00:30:03] brion: I could add a "None" in there, if there aren't none. [00:30:07] i was also thinking about whether we should integrate the group page links onto the check labels [00:30:16] oh yeah [00:30:17] good idea [00:30:24] maybe just ditch the 'member of' line [00:31:33] gotta run in a few minutes, errands to run on the way home [00:31:39] that line's gone now. [00:31:44] woo [00:32:30] and the groups are linked [00:32:40] and the other column displays 'None' if it's empty. [00:32:54] I suppose I should localise that [00:34:11] let me see how that looks [00:34:53] erm, oops :P [00:35:09] the checkboxes are labelled "Bots" [00:37:32] :) [00:37:41] *brion-away sorry gotta run [00:37:46] catch ya later :D [00:38:26] later [00:45:28] 03simetrical * r32683 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (bug 13562) Misspelled option $wgUserNotifedOnAllChanges changed to $wgUserNotifiedOnAllChanges [00:45:33] 03(FIXED) $wgUsersNotifedOnAllChanges is misspelled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13562 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [00:47:14] Is the Image metadata as shown on WIkipedia an extension or is that built in to mediawiki? [00:50:34] 03(mod) Categorylinks table should use category ID rather than category name in cl_to field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13579 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [00:51:52] Simetrical: good point, was just mucking about with the category table and noticed that. [00:53:08] 03(mod) Maintain active user count for Special:Statistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13585 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [00:55:44] okay what's wrong with me [00:55:51] I can't see the difference [00:55:55] $wgUserNotifedOnAllChanges [00:55:58] $wgUserNotifiedOnAllChanges [00:56:04] ied [00:56:05] ohh, now I do [00:56:08] :) [00:56:09] heh [00:56:10] notifIed [00:56:21] notifed [00:56:22] lol [00:57:15] MooingLemur, built into MediaWiki, AFAIK. [01:35:19] 03(mod) Different diff-colors no to discriminate red-green color blinds - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11374 (10N/A) [01:37:23] ... [01:41:13] what is it Werdna. is the silence getting to you? [01:41:53] yes [01:42:25] well there was a bomb scare at wikimedia HQ, so people might be busy [01:43:13] april 1... [01:43:22] yes, APRIL FOOLS [01:43:28] sorry Werdna if I scared you [01:44:00] lame. [01:44:17] i haven't had any opportunities to pull one all day until now. :( [01:45:15] and it's too late to do so now. [01:46:35] it's still April 1 for me, 9:50 PM. dunno what timezone you're in. [01:48:40] that's what CTCP TIME is for [01:49:32] -Dashiva- TIME Central European Time, GMT +1. Do the math yourself. [01:49:43] interesting... [01:49:58] TimStarling: try version. [01:50:33] Smaug: you have to do april fools day gags before 5pm though, check the enwp article... [01:51:11] april fools day on the internet goes for 48 hours [01:51:22] whether you like it or not [01:52:03] it's gotten longer since september started. [02:04:36] what is enwp? [02:04:45] kylu: sry, i was gone for a bit [02:04:50] English Wikipedia [02:05:03] sorry, habit. [02:07:04] i'm in the article and not finding the reference to 5 PM [02:07:09] but i take your word for it [02:10:22] well if i can't do april fool's jokes, i guess i'll go to sleep [02:10:25] goodbye [02:10:31] g'night. [02:10:44] \quit [02:14:06] *Simetrical reads the new April 1 RFCs [02:14:14] "In fact, it is an advantage to the continued viability of the IETF that dueling is outlawed in the countries in which it meets." [02:16:12] "Other options for the use of the increased revenue could be sizing the break cookies large enough to feed a family of geeks for a week rather than the mere day and a half as was the case at the 71st IETF" [02:19:39] Where are the RfC's [02:19:56] Google "RFCs" and go to the last ones. [02:20:04] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5241.txt [02:20:06] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5242.txt [02:20:40] Werdna: meh, I liked the form before [02:21:31] I'm still waiting for them to implement the evilbit standard [02:21:52] I like the pigeons one best, because it was actually implemented. [02:21:59] People need to implement more April Fool's RFCs. [02:22:37] TimStarling: can you review bug 13459? [02:22:52] I'm thinking another table may be best [02:23:36] Oh, there's a mention of the evil bit in RFC 5241. :) [02:25:02] Hmm, is RFC 5242 an April Fool's RFC or is it coincidence? [02:26:17] . . . April Fool's, I guess. [02:28:24] *Simetrical doesn't really get it [02:28:57] domas: how is the Oracle migration goin eh? [02:29:02] Question: How do I install Userip? [02:29:14] ^ [02:32:26] BoL, what's "Userip"? [02:33:05] Checkuser doesn't work for me, unfortunately, everytime I try to install it something else exists and when I write the thing on LocalSettings.php, it doesn't work [02:33:09] so I'm trying to use Userip [02:33:20] AaronSchulz: there seems to be a whole lot of stuff in that patch that's unrelated to the bug [02:33:27] which happened to possibly be writtened by you... [02:33:30] BoL, never heard of it. It's not an official extension, AFAIK. Ask the author, not us. [02:33:35] Is it? [02:33:46] Maybe I was fixing up whitespace or similar. [02:33:46] it's the predecessor to checkuser [02:33:49] *Simetrical looks in repo [02:33:56] TimStarling: some of it is just the rest of rev_deleted that I haven't merged [02:34:16] Hmm, there's a Userip, yep. It should probably be considered unmaintained and obsolete. I've never looked at it. [02:34:17] yeah... [02:34:35] is that a branch? [02:35:14] huh [02:35:47] TimStarling: no [02:35:59] though there is some obsolete branch somewhere [02:36:26] TimStarling: well defaultsettings.php, logpage.php, and splog.php should have the gist [02:36:51] Simetrical: userip? Haven't heard of that in a while [02:36:55] DefaultSettings.php looks wrong to me, I don't see why you need to add any groups or rights [02:37:16] surely that belongs in the setup code for the oversight extension [02:37:55] 'oversight' should be called 'suppress' [02:38:03] and in the core [02:38:11] why? [02:38:13] that's what rev_deleted is for [02:38:19] rev_deleted is not an extension [02:38:40] yes, but it's a quick way to refer to functionality which is partially implemented [02:38:41] is there a UI for it in the core? [02:38:48] yes [02:38:56] which works? [02:39:12] yes, specialrevisiondelete.php [02:39:20] been in there for a while [02:39:41] Tietew or some guy started it [02:41:03] so what is it about this patch that I'm actually meant to be reviewing? [02:41:42] the method of restricted log types [02:41:49] should it also use a separate table? [02:42:46] a separate table containing what? [02:42:51] Werdna: I liked the checkbox rows :( [02:43:01] TimStarling: the log items for restricted logs [02:43:12] the suppression one being the first restricted log [02:43:25] which is for things hidden from sysops [02:43:32] AaronSchulz: as in, one big line of checkboxen? [02:43:51] Werdna: where it makes more rows if they get too long of course ;) [02:43:57] heh [02:44:04] well, you were overruled [02:44:04] now I have this big empty "rights you can't change" thing [02:44:11] blame Pathoschild,brion-away [02:44:24] I like the columns better too [02:44:36] Hmm? [02:44:57] AaronSchulz: I think it's ok to have it in the same table [02:45:13] that certainly keeps things together [02:45:37] but I think you could provide some functions which make it easier for others to query it securely [02:46:22] because first you'll break everything that reads the logging table, fine [02:46:44] then everyone whose code is broken will hard-code a reference to $wgLogRestrictions [02:47:02] then you'll decide a bit later that $wgLogRestrictions is not flexible enough and you want to change the way it's configured [02:48:10] so I think you should look any other code (in the API and extensions) that uses the logging table, and look at how you can refactor the permissions filtering [02:49:00] hmm, must things seems to use LogViewer and the FauxRequest thing [02:49:15] eww [02:49:47] it's the same problem though [02:49:48] it is too ugly to manually query the table and output it [02:50:02] if LogViewer is used, it should be safe [02:50:47] actually, SpecialLog.php is kind of ugly [02:50:54] you'd think it would just be the specialpage [02:51:16] but there is this weird Reader/Viewer thing, I'd really should have it use Pager sometime [02:51:44] if you provide a decent interface now, you'll reduce the risk that someone later will get fed up with LogViewer and write their own crappy interface [05:03:29] sweet, got logging using pager now [05:04:55] awesome :D [05:08:00] 03aaron * r32684 10/trunk/phase3/includes/RecentChange.php: Use new fields [05:08:09] wow! irc scared me! [05:08:13] didn't know you were awake [05:09:27] I have a LogList class for the formatting [05:09:47] brion: I also dumped all the reader/viewer stuff there...not sure what to do with that [05:10:21] I'll have to change a shitload of FauxReader stuff to be able to remove it from the core without breakage [05:10:48] *AaronSchulz will deal with those classes later [05:18:33] I should do some work soon [05:18:40] also, well done AaronSchulz [05:19:32] Werdna: being able to doing "earliest" is kinda fun [05:19:46] before that would require a scan of....several rows [05:20:31] On bottom of every page I see "This page has been accessed x times.". Is it possible to get a consolidated page containing hit count of all the pages? [05:20:49] Any special page for that? [05:21:50] hey werdna? :) [05:21:54] kylu? [05:21:57] :D [05:22:19] sooo.... would you mind peeking at AdminSettings.php and figuring out why I can't access the db? [05:22:56] how are you trying to access the db? [05:22:57] is a very simple file, kylu's a bit o.O now. [05:23:08] via centralauth extension [05:23:23] I did the table create already [05:23:52] I can turn on special:asksql if you'd like, but didn't want to read there either. [05:24:00] Nineth: Special:Popularpages? [05:24:34] kylu: well, it looks okay [05:24:39] what's the exact error you're getting? [05:25:31] pasting to query. [05:28:42] brion: yes, it is what I need. Thanks. :) [05:48:30] 03aaron * r32685 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (6 files): [05:48:30] * User Pager for special:log [05:48:30] * Add LogEventList class. LogReader and Viewer added to the file for b/c for now. [05:48:30] * Add $wgLogRestrictions to restrict logs [05:48:30] * Show log items in watchlists [05:48:56] grr, /User/Use [05:49:15] \o/ [05:49:52] *AaronSchulz will keep checking for breakage [05:50:08] AaronSchulz: will this fix bug 778 too? [05:51:15] *Werdna hi-5s AaronSchulz [05:51:58] 03(FIXED) Logs about watched pages should appear in the watchlist and recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5546 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [05:52:34] 03(FIXED) Private logging through Special:Log interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13459 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [05:53:09] 03(FIXED) Implement rev_deleted (deletion of single article revisions) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3576 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [05:54:17] wth? [05:54:43] AaronSchulz: I don't see rev_deleted in that revision [05:55:04] Werdna: rev_deleted is already there, but it used the suppression log [05:55:10] which wasn't done till just now [05:55:25] how do you enable it? [05:56:11] 03(FIXED) Oversight of file histories including images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8196 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [05:56:20] Werdna: grant something deleterevisions or whatever [05:56:36] wow, exciting times in mediaWiki [05:56:39] the logging needs to be prettified, methinks people won't understand bitfield talk [05:56:51] brion: but I could be wrong ;) [05:59:34] 03aaron * r32686 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Comment [06:02:06] AaronSchulz: +'suppressionlogtext' => 'Below is a list of the most recent deletions and blocks involving content hidden from sysops. See the [[Special:Ipblocklist|IP block list]] for the list of currently operational bans and blocks.', <<<< isn't the second sentence superfluous ? [06:03:12] 03aaron * r32687 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LogEventList.php: NO_ACTION_LINK should be here [06:04:33] Raymond_: meh, do what you will :D [06:05:17] :) [06:05:35] Raymond_: can you play around with the revision delete log [06:05:43] AaronSchulz: yes will do [06:05:49] it should be better than "set x to mode 15" [06:06:03] *AaronSchulz sets Werdna to mode 8 [06:08:52] is it at all possible to specify a different url to use for images/attachments with mediawiki? [06:13:51] 03raymond * r32688 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messages.inc: update per r32672/r32679 [06:30:43] 03aaron * r32689 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialLog.php: Fake log_id if needed [06:39:25] Werdna: I'll still have to deal with the API [07:03:18] 03(FIXED) Image upload replacements should create watchlist entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=778 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [07:07:51] sorry for the kind of off topic, but how do I grab http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ExtensionFunctions.php ? using svn that is? [07:07:57] should I just wget? [07:08:17] well.. wget works so... [07:08:19] you're just getting the one file? [07:08:34] yeah, I was using svn to grab extensions, so I got confused [07:08:44] svn co http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Asksql [07:09:13] oh, okay, I get it... mm, I think if you wget that, you'll end up with a file full of html [07:09:29] no... looks fine [07:09:42] sorry, I wget the former link, not the latter [07:09:53] oh, ya, sure. [07:09:56] the latter link is an example of the svn call that works fine [07:11:01] 03aaron * r32690 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (LogEventList.php SpecialLog.php api/ApiQueryLogEvents.php): Add getExcludeClause(), hide items from API too [07:14:26] 03aaron * r32691 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Leave this as it was [07:21:34] any api developers around? [07:33:50] <_wooz> lo [07:34:32] :) [07:34:52] api editting is half broken [07:36:02] I've found that the initial inserts that have to do with saving the main article text work [07:36:21] obviously, but what I mean is, those are wrapped in a transaction [07:36:41] that's what tends to happen when you duplicate existing functionality for no reason and without testing [07:36:49] then a new transaction begins, and all of the links updates are done [07:37:16] like, inserting categories, external links, etc [07:37:31] but the transaction is never comitted [07:38:12] unlike the main index.php that always runs $mediaWiki->finalCleanup() which ensures a commit is run [07:39:43] so really, in mediawiki, there is no explict commit executed when editting an article. The final clean up method takes care of it [07:40:15] since api edit does not have a clean up method, some db updates never get comitted [07:41:08] im new to mediawiki (code). Just spent about 4 hours debugging that heh [07:45:30] 03raymond * r32692 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialRevisiondelete.php: [07:45:30] Move reason field and submit button into fieldset to be consistent with other input forms [07:45:30] Use more nice XML functions [08:11:47] 03(NEW) Editting a page with the api is half broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13587 major; normal; MediaWiki: API; (tony4d) [08:14:09] well, there we go, sent in a bugzilla. Not a very good report, but im tired :) [08:22:56] kylu: I has my 100 edits now [08:23:02] Number of edits:100 [08:23:26] and, thanks to centralauth and making those 28 edits, I now have accounts on 28 wikis [08:27:09] 100 edits? [08:27:47] for ... meta? [08:30:07] yeah [08:30:22] I always like to tack on a few extra, myself, but g/a [08:30:33] yeah, I'll wait a while [08:30:39] like, when I have 150 or 200 or something [08:30:42] I'm bound to get lots more [08:30:50] you're temp? [08:31:27] *kylu peeks... yep. [08:31:48] work on the Spam page and arc RfP once in a while, you'll get there quick. [08:34:26] yeah [08:34:31] arc? [08:35:23] archive, sorry [08:36:29] kylu: http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Project:Requests/Bureaucrat&curid=25849&diff=177897&oldid=177834 [08:36:41] ... [08:36:55] oh, that, yes, I saw. [08:37:20] I DIDNT FAIL I WITHDREW [08:37:26] LOOK, MY DIGNITY'S STILL THERE [08:37:27] SEE? [08:53:16] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CentralNotice?? [08:54:50] it's like... there's a question there, somewhere, just trying to get out [08:56:32] AaronSchulz: is it normal that an user with deleterevision right but not hiderevision can put the DELETE_RESTRICTED bit on a revision ? (same for log action) [08:56:45] flyingparchment: shoudln't something be there? [08:56:59] only if someone wrote something, which i guess they didn't [08:57:16] seems pretty stupid to put a template on an empty page, but you know how wikipedia editors are [08:59:45] p858snake: you might be able to get a better response by asking the person (Siebrand) who placed the template there. [09:00:10] hardly guaranteed, but likely more informative. [09:00:55] 03ialex * r32693 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialRevisiondelete.php: [09:00:55] * Show suppress log for that page if user is allowed to see it [09:00:55] * Force loading all messages to show log items [09:07:19] 03(NEW) Track link changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13588 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (Bryan.TongMinh) [09:14:24] i need some kind of hybrid of table and tree, where the first 'column' of the table is actually a tree-like hierarchy - how would you put that into a mediawiki? [09:34:48] 03(NEW) Request for a rollback button at Special: RecentChangesLinked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13589 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (dejan.papez) [09:42:46] how do i make something appear in bold font in mediawiki [09:42:46] ? [09:43:09] peace-keeper: put ''' around it [09:43:30] ah thx [10:28:42] 03(mod) ENGINE vs TYPE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13586 +comment (10minuteelectron) [10:33:08] 03nikerabbit * r32694 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: * Simpler wording for two messages [10:41:28] 03nikerabbit * r32695 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/SpecialCentralAuth.php: * Let the plural actually work [10:44:02] hi, i'm wondering if there's a way to make external urls with spaces in them work in mediawiki 1.12.0 [10:44:09] use %20 instead of the space [10:44:40] And now, reading Simetrical post on the topic, I'm wondering how global IP blocking would be hard to do [10:44:41] if you do [http://urlwith%20space/ title] the result (for me at least) is that mediawiki escapes the % [10:44:46] so you get %2520 in the url [10:45:38] 03(mod) Editting a page with the api is half broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13587 +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [10:47:22] oh wait a second, i got it to work now, sorry [10:48:05] 03ialex * r32696 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SpecialRecentchanges.php): (bug 13441) Allow Special:Recentchanges to show bots only [10:48:29] if you do file:////servername/bla/bla/ it escapes it as %2520 but if you do file://servername/blabla it escapes it as %20 [10:48:59] 03(FIXED) [[Special:Recentchanges]] filter to filter out non-bot edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13441 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [10:54:04] 03(NEW) ability to have member categories as well as subcategories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13590 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (catlow) [10:54:46] 03grondin * r32697 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFr.php: Localisation updates for extensions messages from Betawiki [10:56:10] 03nikerabbit * r32698 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (README TranslateEditAddons.php): * show the group of message when editing [11:00:59] 03siebrand * r32699 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Tweak 'allmessagesnotsupportedDB' [11:04:07] ialex: should we instead start using something like checkboxes for minor/registered/anon/bot/patrolled whatever :o [11:05:08] Nikerabbit: maybe, but actually bot is included in registered so it's a bit hard to do it nicely [11:05:54] Is there is a way, with the current DB scheme, to track separately links *in* the page wikitext, and links coming from page/templ. inclusions ? [11:06:59] ialex: not really, just AND all conditions [11:07:38] hmm, not all [11:08:14] Nikerabbit: if you do rc_user = 0 and rc_bot = 1, you'll get anything [11:08:48] s/anything/nothing [11:09:05] just need to implement some logic in the query builder [11:09:45] we do that already I think [11:11:06] Hi people, at the nl wikipedia we have a category for PD pictures. (http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Wikipedia:Afbeeldingen_in_het_publiek_domein). You can browse the pictures with the category toc or with the next buttons (for example http://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Categorie:Wikipedia:Afbeeldingen_in_het_publiek_domein&from=Constructie2003.jpg). We have another category for GNU/GFDL pictures (http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie: [11:11:44] your message got truncated [11:12:07] Hi people, at the nl wikipedia we have a category for PD pictures. (http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Wikipedia:Afbeeldingen_in_het_publiek_domein). [11:12:13] You can browse the pictures with the category toc or with the next buttons (for example http://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Categorie:Wikipedia:Afbeeldingen_in_het_publiek_domein&from=Constructie2003.jpg). [11:12:20] tegory toc or with the next buttons (for example http://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Categorie:Wikipedia:Afbeeldingen_in_het_publiek_domein&from=Constructie2003.jpg). We have another category for GNU/GFDL pictures (http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Wikipedia:Afbeeldingen_met_GNU/GFDL_Licentie), but in this category the toc doenst work. [11:12:29] When i look at the next button i see http://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Categorie:Wikipedia:Afbeeldingen_met_GNU/GFDL_Licentie&from=Afbeelding%3ADDR-Europe.png . [11:12:35] Why is the namespace (Afbeelding:) included here? [11:14:35] Multichil: because there isn't a sort key for that category [11:15:22] ialex : Right, how can i define a sort key? [11:15:58] Multichil: for example [[Categorie:Wikipedia:Afbeeldingen met GNU/GFDL Licentie|{{PAGENAME}}]] in http://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sjabloon:GFDL&action=edit [11:16:11] Oh, that way :) [11:16:39] :) [11:22:29] Would an group_by page_namespace in Special:Whatslinkshere (when listing every namespace) be costly, actually ? [11:23:01] s/an/a [11:30:16] people: i added a new link protocol to the localsettings.php but [11:30:35] still i can't use links that point to file://///bla.bla/bla/bla/ [11:30:39] inside the lan [11:31:03] $wgUrlProtocols[] = "file:"; [11:31:07] i added that one to the config [11:31:44] it (firefox2) just doesn't open links that begin with file: but when i copypaste the same url to the address field and open it, it works [11:32:50] it seems that it is a problem in firefox because the link is formatted as lan link in the mw page source [11:34:33] Hi, am I being totally dense or did at one time there exist a 'single sign-on' system for integrating mediawiki into existing authentication systems (intranets et al)? [11:35:08] I know I was playing around with one, but I cant remember if it was an official mediawiki thing [11:36:23] RichardP: AuthPlugin [11:36:51] ahha got it [11:36:54] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:QISSingleSignOn [11:37:22] that's just one SSO plugin, there are quite a few [11:37:41] flyingparchment: yup, but it seems to be the one I was playing with [11:38:18] someone was asking about a similar system for a bespoke app, and I seem to remember I thought this was rather elegent (although there are probably better pluggable solutions these days) [11:49:27] when I'm querying the API is it possible to locally query it and not use http, to reduce the amount of time it would take to run the query? [11:49:46] since the server making the queries and the server holding mediawiki are one and the same? [11:50:06] is it as simple as making a request to /w/api.php instead of mydomain.com/w/api.php [11:50:18] 03ialex * r32700 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [11:50:18] * (bug 13431) Show true message source in Special:Allmessages&ot=php / xml [11:50:18] * Use Xml::* functions instead of wf* ones [11:50:18] * Call wfDeprecated() in MessageCache::disableTransform(), MessageCache::enableTransform(), MessageCache::setTransform() and MessageCache::getTransform() [11:50:51] AphelionZ: i think api is http based... if your scripts are running on the same machine, dont worry about http overhead [11:51:21] you cant call /w/api.php without http protocol [11:51:52] lordgun, yeah? it just seems like my MW API pages load a hell of a lot slower than my other pages... [11:52:16] I'm using file_get_contents with format=php to get aserialized php variable [11:52:26] 03(mod) Show true message source in Special:Allmessages&ot=php / xml - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13431 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [11:56:06] so when I request http://domain.com from the server that domain.com is hosted on, it doesn't have to go through the whole INTERNET to get the data? [11:56:32] no [11:56:45] well, it depeneds [11:56:51] on how your dns is set up [11:57:01] mediawiki is slow it's unlikely http overhead is ever going to affect it [11:57:43] AphelionZ: traceroute mydomain.com [11:58:01] k hang on [11:59:56] I need to get the hosting company to whitelist my Italian IP [12:00:04] so I can ssh into the server [12:13:24]