[00:02:32] k4jcw: Did you change it to /w/index.php/$1? [00:03:43] No. The physical path on the disk to index.php is /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mediawiki/index.php. The site name is tinymicros.com. I should have had /var/www/tinymicros.com/htdocs/mediawiki/index.php. Apaches check was looking at the site name, not localhost. [00:04:15] But the instructions in the short URL page do not say to use /w/index.php/$1. [00:06:01] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL $wgArticlePath = '/wiki/$1'; [00:06:36] Time to go scare up some dinner. [00:06:54] Well, it'll work too as long as the /w goes to the right place [00:25:40] 03aaron * r32829 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Cut down on extra tab use [00:52:27] 03aaron * r32830 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php FlaggedRevsPage.php): [00:52:27] * Tweak messages [00:52:27] * Add fieldset [00:55:24] 03aaron * r32831 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: Bold [00:55:53] http://globulation2.org/wiki/ <-- what would be the most likely cause of that error? [00:56:26] 03aaron * r32832 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: Improve wording [01:01:01] 03simetrical * r32833 10/trunk/extensions/Renameuser/SpecialRenameuser_body.php: Unnecessary USE INDEX considered harmful [01:18:33] 03aaron * r32834 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Be more precise [01:22:42] 03aaron * r32835 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LogEventsList.php: Only needs [0] [01:23:45] Simetrical: I like how I put "where" where "were" is needed 50% of the time [01:55:55] Greetings. I have created a feature (well not entirely done), but I am wondering whether or not it could be useful for a general mod (currently it is solely intended for transcripts). [01:56:07] But without further ado, see this link; http://theinfosphere.org/Put_Your_Head_on_My_Shoulder_(transcript) [01:56:21] Click the "activate edit mode" link on the right and follow the instructions. [01:57:13] Neat [01:57:34] I am still working on the "line edit" thing. [02:10:47] But, Emufarmers, perhaps a mod/extension with this for other wikis which deals with source code or other articles in a "transcriptic" manner. [02:12:16] *twitch* [02:12:23] SMW it being a pain [02:12:29] s/it/is [02:15:58] Arrrg... curse you PHP globals [02:20:24] svip: I'm sure some people would find it useful. A more natural way of editing would be cool; if you expanded it to be able to handle whole paragraphs, for instance. [02:21:16] Well... it still needs some assembly. [02:21:47] I was also thinking of the possibility of using AJAX to edit the article. [02:21:59] But that is a bit of a stretch for now. [02:30:53] Question: When I block a user, do I also block his IP? [02:31:17] yes, if you don't uncheck "autoblock" in blocking options [02:31:43] also, IP block expires in different time, commonly 24 hours [03:10:37] i found a supossed skin for my wiki that suits me. but its only a *.css and *.js file. i only found info on howto enable per user css. i want to be able to install that without asking all the users to edit the special:myspace/monobook.css page [03:11:28] Edit MediaWiki:Monobook.css [03:13:27] instad of Myspage:Monobook.css ? [03:13:39] MyPage* [03:15:27] Yeah [03:16:37] $wgAllowUserCss needs to be enabledfor this ? [03:16:53] No [03:23:45] *kirby tags Betacommand with {{nonfree}} [03:24:07] kirby: But I am PD [03:24:20] thats what she said [03:25:02] MediaWiki:monobook.js is valid too ? [03:25:22] You might have to capitalize the "M", but yeah [03:26:36] MediaWiki:Monobook.js [03:28:26] just to let you know, it says its deprecated in favour of [[MediaWiki:common.js]] [03:29:07] if it's a monoobook-only thing, it belongs in Monobook.js [03:29:31] it said it was deprecated [03:30:35] Skizzerz, can be done with a variable check in that case. [03:30:47] No need to have it scattered across multiple pages on such an arbitrary basis. [03:31:04] Emufarmers, the first letter of page names is case-insensitive. [03:31:06] *Simetrical vanishes [03:31:15] :P [03:31:24] ohai Emufarmers :) [03:31:28] Never could remember whether the namespace counted as part of the title [03:31:29] hai2u [03:32:03] Simetrical: Is segmentation of css/js by skin on Common.css/js documented anywhere? [03:32:37] I don't know how you could do it via CSS, but in js you could check the wgSkin variable [04:07:08] this new css i put changed the sidebar and i cant get my "main page" link back [04:08:41] what did the css say [04:09:02] i dont know. it to large and my knoledge of css is close to -1 [04:09:18] i tried editing the sidebar but i cant fin the name of the main page [04:20:25] 03(NEW) Diff display sometimes does not hightlight the entire change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13621 normal; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (tcncv_nospam) [04:35:12] 03(mod) Diff display sometimes does not hightlight the entire change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13621 (10N/A) [05:00:28] hi [05:00:34] i need helm [05:01:37] help* [05:01:54] you have the helm, YK_SysRes, full speed ahead [05:02:06] XD [05:02:26] i have a page not displaying properly in IE [05:02:28] +1 on DEF [05:02:36] maybe someone can help [05:03:09] it started with 1.12.0 [05:03:23] YK_SysRes, it would be good if you linked the page causing the problem [05:03:31] sure [05:03:33] http://wiki.no.intro.free.fr/index.php?title=%2796_Zenkoku_Koukou_Soccer_Senshuken_%28Japan%29 [05:03:58] why the display is all screwed in IE [05:04:34] need res of 1024 or higher btw* [05:04:48] it displays as it should in FF2 [05:06:59] YK_SysRes, table styles should be float:left;clear:left; instead of align:left; [05:07:55] ok let me try [05:09:08] hello [05:10:27] anyone alive? [05:13:20] Nope. [05:15:43] dang it... [05:15:48] no, im a bot. ammo for every one [05:16:08] someone look at something for me? [05:17:05] thank a lot enhydra!! you solved the problem! [05:17:25] you are welcome :) [05:21:26] hooray for enhydra!! XD [05:21:36] my savior [05:27:23] Hmm... now who started wfLoadExtensionMessages... [05:27:49] I wrote the function, if that's what you mean [05:28:07] I was talking to JSharp, and had a thought [05:28:38] Remember the whole bug about extension messages not showing when on a MediaWiki: page or on allpages [05:28:40] YK_SysRes: W3C.org HTML validator still finds 62 errors on that page. [05:28:53] And the 'fix' was to load every single message there is [05:31:04] I kinda thought... Why do we even have to stick to flat arrays? [05:31:21] What about a sort of Locale class... One used to query for messages rather than loading a gigantic list of messages whenever one is needed... Why not allow extensions to hook into a message query and say "hey, I have this message if you want it" [05:31:47] because it would be slow [05:32:16] And what makes it slow is? [05:32:29] to answer that query, the extension would need the list of messages anyway [05:32:44] and when the hook is called, the extension code will be autoloaded [05:33:00] and if you have a lot of extensions, it means you have to run a lot of code [05:34:15] oh well... Twas an idea [05:39:34] anyone know where I can get a defauly LocalSettings file? Mine is all smashed together and can't do anything with it [05:40:19] run the installer [05:40:36] config/index.php [05:43:14] 1.12 broke so many things i dunno where to start [05:43:35] right-o Tim [05:43:42] why did they remove HTMLForm.php? [05:44:39] includes/HTMLForm.php [05:44:44] some people just like to change things [05:45:00] like Windows [05:45:02] keeps them happy [05:45:31] and why changing latest news pages :/ [05:49:36] Hmmm... [05:49:48] TimStarling: What about Extension prefixes [05:50:01] Honnestly 99% of extensions prefix their messages [05:50:26] Why not take advantage of that to spead up loads by allowing extensions to register a prefix for themselves [05:50:29] could do [05:50:55] Though I suggest you do a reverse sort by string length [05:51:13] heh [05:51:24] you must think we're in C++ [05:51:35] lol... [05:51:44] rar Splarka [05:52:01] Well, sorting by string length and then reversing it should eliminate the issue of something like 'foo' overriding 'foobar' [05:52:06] rar [05:52:16] the prefix should be foo- and foobar- [05:52:19] not foo and foobar [05:52:20] I know [05:52:34] But I was thinking about sub extensions... [05:52:50] Like how SMW has a half dozen extensions build off of it [05:53:05] It's possible in cases like that someone may use 'main-sub-' as a prefix [05:53:14] anyway, I'm pretty sure the longest will match first if we use the standard algorithms [05:53:15] And 'main-' would suddenly override them all [05:53:57] you're implying that we should take a list, sort it, and then search it linearly each time a message is required [05:54:44] What are you implying then? [05:55:00] Charlton Heston is dead [05:55:13] who shall led the Children of Israel now?! [05:55:21] lead* [05:55:41] well, who's gonna take his gun away? [05:56:06] probably be buried with it [05:56:35] well, putting the strings into a regex and searching it with the s modifier is quite fast [05:56:50] and FSS can do a similar operation [05:57:10] Hmmm... ok, didn't think of regex [05:57:14] both are based on finding common prefixes in the list of strings and creating a tree structure [05:57:27] then traversing the tree as you traverse the string [05:58:49] MagicWordArray is an example of the technique [06:31:13] 03amidaniel * r32836 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Make rev_deleted log entries more intelligible for those of us who "don't speak bitfield". [06:50:17] 03amidaniel * r32837 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialRevisiondelete.php: Rm FIXME, make brackets consistent with the rest of mw [07:14:43] 03amidaniel * r32838 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialRevisiondelete.php: rev_deleted log: only show colon in log message if a comment is provided. [07:21:28] 03(mod) Blocking account creation on an IP address should apply to logged in users too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13611 +comment (10Aphaia) [07:36:21] amidaniel: umm [07:37:32] + return wfMsg ( 'revdelete-log-message', $s, $count, $comment ); [07:38:01] I see two problems: plural not working and $count is not formatted, or am I wrong? [07:44:34] erm .. works for me [07:46:43] (hid content; unhid edit summary for 1 revision: test) [08:01:41] amidaniel: so you didn't test it for other languages... [08:02:01] I can tell you it does not work, it is always parsed in the *content* language [08:03:44] 03amidaniel * r32839 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [08:03:45] * Use parsemag to get plural, etc. to work in log entry. [08:03:45] * Rmv unneeded section break in MessagesEn [08:03:51] Sorry, I'm not following [08:04:11] Although I did then see that plural wasn't working correctly, now fixed ;) [08:04:28] amidaniel: it's kinda complex [08:04:50] Clearly [08:05:01] due to legacy wfMsg goes to code path that calls transform, which is same as parsemag with wfMsgExt.. but it does it in the content language [08:05:24] so it seems to work when it actually doesn't [08:05:30] Ah, okay [08:06:02] So is it okay here to just use wfMsg ( ..., array('parsemag'), .. ) ? [08:06:17] wfMsgExt * [08:06:21] yes [08:06:26] Alright [08:06:34] Any other localization problems? [08:06:37] how about the other issue, number formatting? :) [08:06:47] I wasn't entirely sure how the comma and semicolon think was handled [08:06:55] Erm .. what do you mean by number formatting? [08:07:07] thing* [08:07:20] 1444 revisions -> 1.444 revisions etc [08:08:31] the ": $comment" is somewhat ugly, but it is already used for other similar messages... [08:08:40] Well, at least at present, it's mostly being used for 1 revision at a time [08:08:53] I don't believe it will be necessary to support more than 1,000 revs [08:09:06] And I agree that the : $comment thing is ugly, but figured it best to be consistent [08:09:16] amidaniel: it may also be needed to converts arabic numerals to other numerals [08:09:23] Yeah, that's what I thought you meant [08:09:33] But none of the rest of the mw codebase seems to do that [08:09:39] but simple $wgLang->formatnum( $count ) should do it [08:10:28] heh, alright :) [08:10:35] formatNum with correct capitalisation :o [08:10:57] it is probably a bug if that part is missing somewhere [08:11:54] 03amidaniel * r32840 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialRevisiondelete.php: Use $wgLang->formatNum to make Nikerabbit happy :) [08:12:07] Does format num do the arabic to non-arabic numeral conversion as well? [08:12:23] yes, if needed [08:12:50] so you are not actually making me happy but all non-english users of mediawiki :) [08:12:59] :D [08:13:31] *amidaniel likes making people happy, even if they feel the need to speak crazy languages :D [08:24:02] 03nikerabbit * r32841 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/ (messageTypes.inc writeMessagesArray.inc): * linkprefix doesn't actually need any special handling because \\ and \ are identical in '-quoted strings [08:43:25] !seen RoanKattouw [08:43:25] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "seen". [08:44:05] /nickserv info roankattouw [08:44:31] thanks splarka, some bot named "unilinky" msged me after i typed the seen thing :) [08:45:14] Does anybody know anything about action=edit on the API? It doesn't seem to be registering new category links... [08:51:05] AphelionZ: He was on here yesterday I think, you could always ask on mediawiki-api mailing list about it? [08:51:23] It's uncommon to find people with api knowlege active here. [08:53:29] ok good call [08:58:58] <_wooz> lo [09:00:01] 03nikerabbit * r32842 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [09:00:01] * Logs are grouped under date headings similar to enhanced changes list [09:00:01] * This is a second attempt; now with a configuration variable to restore the old behaviour without reverting [09:05:11] 03ialex * r32843 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [09:05:11] * Updated messages.inc per r32836 [09:05:11] * Use $wgContLang and content messages to create the reason as it will be hardcoded in the database [09:24:54] 03(mod) Autoconfirmed on all projects for global usernames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13521 +comment (10pill) [09:44:31] :o [09:47:26] :/ Why do we have such a strange Hook syntax which doesn't even allow for Static calls [09:48:27] Can you suggest a better syntax? [09:48:34] 03nikerabbit * r32844 10/trunk/phase3/ (7 files in 6 dirs): * Use correct class, I wonder how long this has been broken [09:49:19] :/ Perhaps the native callback format... If you really want parameters, at least allow an array inside the array [09:50:15] array( 'function', 'parameter' ) or array( array( 'class', 'method' ), 'parameter' ) [09:50:28] Though with this skewed system [09:50:39] I'd say at least allow for a :: splitter [09:50:59] array( 'Class::Function', 'param1', etc... ) [09:52:02] O_o wtf [09:52:13] :o [09:53:32] Bah... Hooks.php has code to allow for :: to be used... But when you try and use it, it doesn't even work [09:55:03] Can't you simply pass in a reference to the static function? [09:55:45] Glancing at the wfRunHooks code it seems that is supported [09:55:55] What syntax? [09:56:22] Erm .. how is that in php? Can you do &Class::Function ? [09:57:34] Didn't seam to work [09:57:41] All I know is that doing: [09:57:46] $wgHooks['LanguageGetMagic'][] = 'WikiCode::SetupLanguageMagic'; [09:57:54] Ends up crashing Apache [09:58:03] :/ And I mean crashing... [09:58:16] The entire server shuts down when I change that one line of code [09:58:26] Why do you so badly need the hook to call back a static function? [09:58:47] Why not just put it a method outside of the class that calls WikiCode:SetupLanguageMagic ? [09:59:36] I'd prefer not to instanstize a class when it's not needed, and using a function wrapper is just poor coding... [10:00:14] It would at least be nice to code extensions properly even without MediaWiki being that way [10:00:22] Okay, then add a static function onLanguageGetMagic and add $wgHooks['LanuageGetMagic'][] = 'WikiCode::SetupLanguageMagic'; [10:01:02] And if you don't want to instantiate a class then why are you using classes in the first place? :) [10:01:27] AutoLoad... [10:01:43] er, I'm sorry $wgHooks['LanguageMagic'][] = 'WikiCode'; [10:02:54] Nope [10:02:54] The line you posted should work though, I believe. Unless the function / class doesn't exist or isn't loaded [10:03:16] Ohwait [10:03:26] Nope [10:04:05] hmm [10:04:13] bleh... well at least I can fudge it with the fact that I can pass a parameter that looks like a method [10:04:31] I'm also succesfully using $wgHooks['EditPage::showEditForm:initial'][] = 'TranslateEditAddons::addTools'; [10:04:54] Yeah, it should work fine [10:06:32] Fun... [10:07:10] It works... But only if you require_once the file... Which is counterintuitive to the whole point of autoloading something [10:08:04] $wgHooks is not for autloading [10:08:10] No, no, it's not :) [10:08:29] The Autoloader is for autoloading ;) [10:08:36] $wgAutoLoadClasses is for autoloading [10:08:58] or whatever [10:09:05] Ya... What I mean is when you try and do a static inside of $wgHooks it does not work when you try and autoload it with $wgAutoLoadClasses [10:09:12] 03tstarling * r32845 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LoadBalancer.php: fixed a couple of places where the default DB could be used inappropriately [10:09:33] $wgHooks['LanguageGetMagic'][] = 'WikiCode::SetupLanguageMagic'; [10:09:33] $wgAutoloadClasses['WikiCode'] = "{$wcwgIP}/WikiCode.class.php"; [10:10:22] that would work fine [10:10:41] You mean should... cause whenever I use that, it crashes Apache [10:11:29] What's the error? [10:11:53] And you misspelled $wgAutoLoadClasses [10:12:18] Err, I'm sorry, it's fine [10:12:29] Is $wgAutoloadClasses declared global? [10:12:40] File scope... [10:12:46] Not inside of a function [10:12:57] Damn you Bill Gates! [10:14:55] umm .. k [10:15:00] Anyway, gotta run [10:15:03] take care everyone [10:17:54] 03(mod) Pseudo-namespace on Korean Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13617 normal->low (10camway) [10:18:01] Hello, how can I override the behaviour of $wgEmailConfirmToEdit for sysops? [10:18:59] 03tstarling * r32846 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [10:18:59] * File redirects are slow: 2 queries per image per repository on parse. We [10:18:59] previously found one query per image on parse to be prohibitively slow, that's [10:18:59] why we introduced the image cache. Thus, reintroduced $wgFileRedirects. [10:18:59] * Fixed bug due to checkRedirect() not accepting a string title like findFile() [10:19:02] * Use protected instead of private. Private should not be used ever. [10:20:19] Just wondering if that's overriderable for admins [10:30:30] table page : page_is_new : "indicates this is a new entry, with only one edit, not all pages with one edit are new pages" [10:32:06] How a page with only one edit could not be a new page, actually ? [10:32:53] Is it a known problem that the "File links" part of the image description page is not updated but the "What links here" for that image is? [10:37:02] Yaaaay [10:37:10] MinuteElectron: why don't you search bugzilla and tell us? [10:37:38] Didn't know you fixed 13532 Tim :( never got the bugzilla mail [10:37:42] *OvrLrd-Q does a happy dnace [10:37:45] *dance [10:38:17] TimStarling: ok [10:46:47] TimStarling: I can't find one, but nevertheless it is a peculiar occurance. [10:52:20] hello [10:53:38] RecentChanges and ChangesList apparently relies on page_is_new to show "N". Why then, is there is that "not all pages with page_is_new==1 are new pages" comment in the sql scheme ? [10:55:10] i tried to assemble a template for rewriting a site's title at our wiki jedipedia.de - but it doesn't work [10:55:49] can somebody possibly help? [11:02:57] I'm trying to see, actually, what would be needed to show new pages on Special:Contributions [11:03:53] Am I right to say that, with the current scheme, it is not really something that could be easily/reasonably done ? [11:05:47] prolly [11:06:00] there is two senses of new but I'm not sure it is related to it [11:07:00] yes, it took me some time to figure how page_is_new is being used, and yet I'm not sure I clearly understand it :) [11:11:10] i tried to assemble a template for rewriting a site's title at our wiki jedipedia.de - but it doesn't work. can anybody please help? [11:16:12] oh fuck I'm really sending to much nonsense today to the ML [11:17:09] :P [11:18:43] would a rev_type field sound stupid ? It would allow to easily show revs creating new pages in Special:Contributions + operations such as moves could be clearer [11:20:12] can nobody help? [11:20:37] to rewrite what now? [11:20:58] the title of an article [11:21:12] on top of the site [11:21:26] NicDumZ: sounds nice but is it flexible enough? [11:21:41] Tyber: you've looked at {{lowercase}} already? [11:21:53] What do you mean ? flexible ? :) [11:22:10] lowercase? [11:22:31] example on en.wp that changes the title [11:22:45] wait, i'll check [11:22:52] NicDumZ: in rc table there at least two fields [11:23:24] 03siebrand * r32847 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuth.i18n.php: [11:23:24] $2 -> $1 [11:23:24] Noticed by Jon Harald Soby [11:23:25] sure, but you can't use rc table to show history/user contributions, can you ? [11:23:37] wouldn't page_first similarly to page_latest not be easier? [11:24:07] Can I somehow escape the | in the #if syntax? say I was using table syntax in my wiki [11:24:43] that's not the function i'm looking for [11:24:49] the only solution I've found to this so far is define a template page with '|' in it and do {{Templatepage}} within the #if statement, which seems like a really dumb solution [11:24:59] Tyber: What does not work in changing the title? [11:25:05] Bryan, oh yes, why not. [11:25:35] well, i copied the templates source and the stuff from wookieepedia [11:25:56] *stuff for common.js [11:26:13] but it doesn't work over at jedipedia.de [11:27:32] Oh, then I really dont know what 'rewriting' you're trying to do if DISPLAYTITLE doesnt work [11:27:47] the original template allows the formatting the pagetitle [11:27:52] oh, found an answer to that [11:28:25] whats the link to the original? [11:28:30] for example to display it in italic [11:28:53] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Title [11:31:58] Tyber: You do not have anything yet in jedipedia.de/Template:Title ? [11:32:27] it's german, so i assembled it as Vorlage:Titel [11:33:01] Tyber: Can the .js and .css find it if you changed the page name? [11:34:38] i'm not sure i understand the question [11:34:56] what means "find" here? [11:35:46] Tyber: Have you tried writing page with name Template:Title and seen that even then it does not work? [11:37:34] direct copying worked fine with other templates, which titles were changed [11:37:55] there is no hint for that to be the reason [11:52:56] *Werdna is pung [11:56:08] 03nikerabbit * r32848 10/trunk/extensions/CleanChanges/ (CleanChanges.php CleanChanges_body.php): * Bug with 0 because of weak typing [11:56:46] i have to leave [11:57:08] thanks for trying to help me :) [11:57:31] *Werdna waves [11:58:29] '0' == 0 is just stupid [11:59:19] Bryan: Not it's not, not for form input [11:59:19] well, '0' == 0 might no be as stupid, but bool('0') == 0 certainly is [11:59:26] '' == 0 is [12:00:26] ugh [12:00:47] I've been very productive today, but I was supposed to other things than coding today.. ARGH! [12:01:12] weak typing should imho only be used for boolean comparison [12:02:06] zssssssssssss [12:02:16] sorry, cleaning keyboard [12:02:23] string <-> int is also useful [12:03:07] that should be an explicit cast [12:03:59] Yeah probably [12:07:26] Bryan: Can I use that in my collection of famous quotes from keyboard cleaners? [12:07:39] sure:P [12:09:11] Bryan: Do you have a nose for my absence? [12:09:28] oh yeah [12:10:28] Because you seem to go on a bug-fixing spree whenever I'm away [12:11:32] no, you seem to be away when I have important questions about bug fixing! [12:11:37] lol [12:13:30] :D [12:13:54] I was away for a week once, didn't tell anyone, and later found out Bryan fixed 10 bugs in 5 days [12:14:21] :P [12:14:49] anybody know anything about the new load balancer? [12:14:53] anything == anything usually behaves pretty stupidly in php :) [12:15:06] worst designed language ever created [12:15:18] The type system does suck [12:15:22] As does memory usage [12:17:13] memory usage is a general problem for things that run in a vm [12:20:07] when i use [[File:Foo]] on page X, page X will be listed as linked to on the desc page of foo. when i use [[:File:Foo]] to link to the desc page the foo page doesn't show up as linked to. is this wanted or is it a bug? [12:20:28] Wanted [12:20:39] It means page X /uses/ [[File:Foo]] [12:20:48] To get /links/ use [[Special:Whatlinkshere/File:Foo]] [12:22:07] whee [12:22:13] I just made the first global block ever. [12:22:16] but is there a workaround for linking to on the page? i want to link to the desc page but have this page listed as linked to [12:23:06] otherwise i would have to change includes/ImagePage.php [12:23:12] 03(NEW) Create (rev_timestamp,rev_user_text) index - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13622 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (roan.kattouw) [12:23:52] MONK3000: oh, I think that is a solution to yuor problem then; i'll work up a patch when I get home from the supermarket in about na hour [12:23:55] bye [12:26:06] supermarket on sunday. tz [12:44:06] hi everyone [12:45:39] 03(FIXED) direction=prev&action=raw - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3459 +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [12:50:13] ialex: ping? [12:50:19] siebrand: yes [12:51:10] ialex: i think there may be a serious localisation issue with revdelete-log-message [12:51:34] ialex: is this a correct description: http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=MediaWiki:Revdelete-log-message/qqq [12:52:40] siebrand: the second is passed after being formated with formatnum [12:52:55] ialex: $2 is not the issue. $1 is. [12:53:07] siebrand: what's the problem ? [12:53:20] i've (successfully?) set up mediawiki with postgres, but it seems to me the database has not been created properly. it only has four tables pg_ts_cfg, pg_ts_cfgmap, pg_ts_dict, pg_ts_parser ... it seems as if this was created by the installation-routine, but according to http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/maintenance/postgres/tables.sql?view=markup the scheme should look completely different. how come? [12:53:36] ialex: would it be possible to make that 3 seperate messages? Word odering differs per language, and it is not possible to make this work in all languages. [12:53:50] ordering, even [12:54:45] alternatively, you may split it into something like "xxx action done". "y revisions affected". [12:55:26] siebrand: some languages needs to have "from sysop" part before "username", "comment" ? [12:55:43] this type of 'scary transclusion' is also used in one of the shared media repo messages. It is an issue for localisation that should be avoided. [12:56:17] ialex: "$1" is not necessarily connected in all languages. [12:56:31] ialex: in general, different languages will have different word position, inflection (prefixes-suffixes), etc. [12:57:00] siebrand: i didn't wrote that new summary system ;) [12:57:15] *write [12:57:21] ialex: just talking to you because you're apparently to 'blame' for that line of code :) [12:57:43] SpecialRevisiondelete.php(1417)/ialex in r32638 [12:58:16] siebrand: i just replaced $wgLang to $wgContLang and wfMsg to wfMsgForContent [12:58:36] ialex: ah, that sounds like a sane fix, too. [12:58:53] ialex: then who wrote that code, because it looks like that coder should be more aware of localisation issues. [12:59:01] siebrand: amidaniel [12:59:12] hmm, not in this channel. [13:00:43] ialex: is it something you can fix, or should I bugzilla it/throw it on wikitech-l? [13:01:17] siebrand: if you can explain what should be modified, i can try to do it [13:02:10] 03greg * r32849 10/trunk/extensions/Oversight/HideRevision_body.php: Use single quote, not double, inside SQL statement. [13:02:18] ialex: ok, lemme think on that for a minute. I'll try to explain it in one sentece. [13:02:20] sentence. [13:03:46] ialex: instead of 'revdelete-log-message', use 'revdelete-log-message-hid', 'revdelete-log-message-unhid', 'revdelete-log-message-restricted', or 'revdelete-log-message-unrestricted'. So 5 messages go, 4 new appear. [13:04:30] siebrand: but that messages should be usable together [13:04:55] ialex: the contents of 'revdelete-(un)restricted' and 'revdelete-(un)hid' which are $1 in 'revdelete-log-message' should be expanded in the new messages. [13:06:38] ialex: IANAP (i am not a programmer)... :( [13:06:59] siebrand: an you have commit acces ? :D [13:07:13] ialex: I commit localisation. [13:07:30] ialex: and the occasional extremely small fix. Nothing fancy. [13:08:20] Learning to program is like learning to ride a bicycle. First, you use Python as your training wheels. Then when you take them off, fall over, crack your skull and bleed out on the sidewalk, you realize why it's a lot easier to just drive a car. [13:08:46] siebrand: or i can modify $1 to split it in $1$2$3 where $1 if 'revdelete-hid', $2 'revdelete-unhid' and $3 'revdelete-(un)restricted' [13:08:51] ? [13:09:21] ialex: i do not see that to be any different from the current implementation. [13:09:50] ialex: it still uassumes that those 3 or 4 messages are one block of text in each language. [13:10:45] ialex: (in the context of a 5th message) [13:11:58] ialex: do I understand correctly that these log entries are created once, and are not generated run time? [13:12:14] siebrand: yeah [13:12:28] siebrand: it's why i changed to use content messages [13:12:55] ialex: *nod* just making sure my understanding is correct. mportant for further though process :) [13:13:00] yep, old log messages contain almost anything ... [13:13:49] ialex: so why not switch $ret based on whatever action was performed? [13:14:26] siebrand: remember that you can hide something and unhide an other thing in the same request [13:14:39] ouch. [13:15:00] siebrand: it's why i proposed $1$2$3 [13:15:09] *siebrand ponders the situation. [13:15:34] That may work. [13:15:44] ialex: is this code live on test.wp or elsewhere yet? [13:15:51] BrokenArrow: no [13:15:52] 03huji * r32850 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: * Adding/updating Persian translations [13:15:58] but they need to be completely seperate text blocks then, not a part of a sentence in another message. [13:16:46] BrokenArrow: testwiki is at r32552 [13:16:55] so, all in "if"s: "$1. $2. $3. $4. Count" [13:18:12] siebrand: but some if $(1..3) can be empty [13:18:20] yep [13:18:21] *of [13:20:21] ialex: I am not sure what the solution should be... Just identified a problem :( [13:21:22] ialex: once could say that the impact of it a quite small, as only a vry small group of users will ever see these logs. [13:21:31] s/a/is [13:22:17] siebrand: they can also appear in Special:Log/delete if they aren't restricted to non-sysop only [13:24:13] ialex: guess I will have to play with this feature for a bit to get to know how it really works, so I may get an idea of how to resolve this issue. [13:24:29] ialex: we have this active on Betawiki a while ago, but not anymore it seems. [13:24:42] siebrand: let me know when you find a suitable palyground... [13:24:48] *play [13:25:23] BrokenArrow: Betawiki is a nice playground. Just take or create a page with a few revisions. That should be enough. Looking into how to enable this... [13:26:37] siebrand: no it's not active [13:27:39] ialex: should I set $wgAllowLogDeletion for a group? [13:27:57] siebrand: you have to give deleterevision right to a group in $wgGroupPermissions [13:28:08] ok. on that. [13:28:38] something like $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['deleterevision']=true; [13:29:03] and $wgGroupPermissions['bureaucrat']['hiderevision']=true; to control what sysop are doing [13:29:30] BrokenArrow: are you a BW 'crat yet? [13:30:03] as with *only* deleterevision right you can restrict to non-sysop to but you can undo it :) [13:30:14] s/to/too [13:30:25] s/can/can't [13:30:27] ialex: wanna play in Betawiki, too? [13:30:56] siebrand: i also have a nice testwiki on my computer, but why not ? :) [13:31:13] ialex: create an account, I'll give you the groups. [13:32:17] siebrand: done, IAlex [13:32:28] ialex / BrokenArrow: can use http://translatewiki.net/wiki/User:Siebrand/tobeadded as a playground [13:33:20] ialex: rights set. [13:33:29] siebrand: thank you :) [13:33:46] siebrand: thanks, will do! [13:38:57] *ialex notes that Sidebrand is already playing with User:Siebrand/tobeadded :) [13:39:01] -d [13:39:07] :P [13:39:08] *siebrand nods [13:39:48] ialex: so how to I do this for multiple revisions? [13:40:07] siebrand: you have to modify the url yourself [13:40:16] ialex: wow... :) [13:40:53] siebrand: for example http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:RevisionDelete&target=User%3ASiebrand%2Ftobeadded&oldid[]=220067&oldid[]=250379 [13:41:09] note the [] after the oldid [13:42:54] ialex: hmm, that's a really, really sucky UI [13:44:35] ialex: it appears to work at least. [13:44:39] siebrand: maybe this can be done with javascript, by adding a checkbox after each line, but there's already a from arround the history [13:45:18] 03(mod) Pseudo-namespace on Korean Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13617 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [13:46:30] who checked "hide from other sysop" when playing with User:Siebrand/tobeadded ? :) [13:46:54] ialex: yep. And now I am wondering how anyone is ever going to see that in a log... [13:47:15] siebrand: you have to give hiderevision to a group for that [13:47:33] siebrand: this can be named "oversight" ;) [13:48:29] ialex: OK, true for 'crats now. [13:48:33] Hi everybody. Every time I want to edit a section, there is an error: Invalid h node passed to PPNode_DOM::splitHeading [13:48:35] Editing a page works perfectly. [13:48:36] hmm.. special:undelete is called even if empty [13:49:53] ialex: hmm, do not yet see the log entries. [13:50:13] 03rotem * r32851 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Update for he. [13:50:17] ialex: $wgGroupPermissions['bureaucrat']['hiderevision'] = true; [13:50:25] siebrand: and suppress right too, for the log [13:51:07] wow, hell to configure. Granular, though, which is nice. [13:52:07] siebrand: now you can access http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Log/suppress [13:53:21] ialex: OK. Getting a better understanding now of what should be localised. Thanks for helping me getting that insight. [13:53:28] hi ialex :-) [13:53:36] hey Jack_Phoenix [13:53:46] ialex: got a moment, please? [13:53:56] Jack_Phoenix: sure :) [13:54:35] thanks. could you take a look into the SocialProfile extension and fix some hardcoded strings? they're really annoying on non-English wikis...I tried to fix them myself and...let's just say it didn't work too well ;-) [13:55:49] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserProfile/UserProfilePage.php?revision=31467&view=markup - in function view(), there's the line $wgOut->setHTMLTitle(wfMsg( 'pagetitle', "User:{$this->user_name}" )); where the word "User:" is hardcoded...UserBoard has a couple hardcoded strings too, IIRC [14:07:54] 03tlaqua * r32852 10/trunk/extensions/GoToCategory/ (. GoToCategory.php): Checks search terms against the Category: namespace for Go 'jump to page' functionality [14:08:17] ialex: for the log message issue, we could solve the problem bt having a modular list of independent sentences, used only if applicable: e.g. (Hidden items: xxx. Restored items: yyy. Affected revisions: w (with rev.number, perhaps?). Reason given: zzz. [14:09:02] hi there... is there a cheatsheet on basic mediawiki markup elements? [14:09:06] i mean for editing... [14:12:25] asga: look for http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cheatsheet [14:12:52] Is it possible to include a section of a page e.g. {{Help:Steps#3.The Third Step}} cos when i use it it includes the complete Help:Steps page [14:13:37] MONK3000: with the label section transclusion extension [14:13:53] lol great name [14:15:05] I see. thanks [14:15:09] Jack_Phoenix: i get about 30 notices when i install that extension >.< [14:15:37] ialex: I'm not surprised...I don't think wikia devs have error reporting turned on on their devel setups ;) [14:29:31] is anyone around to help me with a problem i'm having with the Infobox Data Capture extension? [14:29:43] Jack_Phoenix: and a lot of special pages that don't load, 'coz they don't use $wgSpecialPages, i18n don't load correctly, ... :) [14:31:56] ow :/ can you fix those? :) [14:53:25] template paarameters: I use [[:File:{{{1}}}|(desc)]] to create a link to desc page of {{{1}}} which is the file name. Now sometimes it can happen that this parameter is an external link. In this case the desc link shouldn't show up. I dunno much about #if so is there a way to e.g. if param1 = http... then "(desc)" = "-" or something? [14:56:45] Hi! In a template page I insert:
body_of_template
and i want edit the css of the class "template_1" which .css file I must edit? [14:59:23] PataSnella: Edit MediaWiki:Common.css in your wiki (it's an article) [14:59:23] Sorry for my fucking english xD [14:59:39] TimLaqua, ok, thanks =D [15:02:47] TimLaqua, I can simply insert the css or i must use specific tags? [15:03:05] insert the css [15:04:08] div.template_1 {..} for example? [15:09:22] uhm don't run.. Template:Stub =
body
| Wikimedia:Common.css =div.template { border-color: red; text-align:right; } [15:09:37] but border color is black and text-align left [15:10:58] ops, sorry, it runs xD [15:11:00] Thanks [15:18:58] 03(NEW) TOC Table is XML bad formed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13623 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (javier.valcarce) [15:22:52] templates: i want to include an if function that if a parameter is an external link then... {{#if:{{{param2|}}}|... how can i define general externallinks? [15:34:37] 03grondin * r32853 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFr.php: Localisation updates for extensions messages from Betawiki [15:34:56] Anyone remember the name of that extension that lets you set your wiki logo to a uploaded image? [15:36:08] TimLaqua, you mean, $wgLogo [15:36:08] ? [15:36:23] well yeah, the extension modifies that. robchruch wrote the extension if I remember [15:36:31] Why does it need to be modified? [15:36:50] the extension performs a transform down to 135px and then sets $wgLogo to the transformed image's url [15:37:23] because like, you would want your "logo" to be "Image:MyWikiLogo.png" [15:37:46] Why can't you just set $wgLogo to an ordinary thumbnail URL? Isn't that what Wikimedia does? [15:38:07] ok, it's called Logo [15:38:42] Simetrical, for simplicity and usability. manually setting $wgLogo to a thumbnail URL is exactly what the extension does. [15:38:55] ... but not manually... and stuff... [15:39:53] looks like he never documented it [15:39:55] it's in SVN [15:40:22] come si fa [15:44:53] 03simetrical * r32854 10/trunk/phase3/ (7 files in 6 dirs): Move this stuff to shared.css [15:50:23] 03(mod) Track link changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13588 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [15:54:38] Nikerabbit: log grouping again? ;) [15:55:14] 03(mod) Mark bot edits in histories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11181 (10nicdumz) [15:56:00] 03(mod) Record "new" pages on User contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4150 (10nicdumz) [16:04:11] 03(mod) Record "new" pages on User contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4150 (10JSchulz_4587) [16:04:50] /h [16:08:39] 03(mod) Record "new" pages on User contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4150 (10JSchulz_4587) [16:10:42] AaronSchulz, aren't RC never older than $wgRCMaxAge ? [16:10:49] is there any reason why EditPage::internalAttemptSave doesn't trigger the userCan hook? [16:11:02] NicDumZ: not "never", but supposed to be, yes [16:11:11] really, the RC thing is a hack [16:11:11] Everyone: Hi. Can anyone please tell me which file I need to edit to remove the 'discussion' link from every page? [16:11:21] it needs a schema change [16:11:26] prolly rev_type [16:11:44] Dharma: MediaWiki:Common.css, put #ca_talk { display: none; } in there [16:11:46] then you can't use RC to get user contributions... [16:11:55] you can use it for new ones [16:12:02] Thanks a lot Skizzerz [16:12:08] AaronSchulz: yes [16:12:14] Dharma, note that that won't make the discussion page not exist. [16:12:23] Dharma, it will just hide the link to it. [16:12:24] sure, but a rev_type or something is needed when > $wgRCMaxAge [16:12:31] Skizzerz, won't that only work in Monobook-based, anyway? [16:12:45] Nikerabbit: and I wanted to overhaul logging without people bitching after synced ;) [16:12:54] Simetrical: I thought those ids were common across all skins [16:13:00] Skizzerz, maybe? [16:13:03] *Simetrical checks [16:13:22] since "ca" stands for "content action"... definately not mb-specific [16:13:33] Simetrical: I'm not too worried if it exists, I just don't want it on the page. Thanks though. [16:14:17] 03ialex * r32855 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Removed usage of deprecated settings [16:14:50] Skizzerz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/?useskin=cologneblue#ca_talk [16:15:09] Wait, that id is bogus anyway. [16:15:11] It's #ca-talk. [16:15:18] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/?useskin=monobook#ca-talk [16:15:21] ^^ works [16:15:32] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/?useskin=cologneblue#ca-talk <-- Doesn't [16:15:37] 03(NEW) Thumb= parameter on images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13624 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (anonmoos) [16:15:51] There are lots of id's and things that are used totally differently in Monobook and non-Monobook (not even mentioning Modern, ugh). [16:15:54] cologneblue doesn't even HAVE ids [16:15:58] . . . [16:16:00] =/ [16:16:09] Sure it does, just not on those elements. [16:16:15] that's what I meant [16:16:21] AaronSchulz: just forward the blame to dev/null [16:16:40] Nikerabbit, is your cwd /? [16:17:04] Skizzerz: About EditSubpages: I translated to finnish the i18n, but in what situation is the text shown to user? [16:17:05] anyway, any objections to me adding the userCan hook into EditPage::internalAttemptSave? kinda pointless running userCan when $action == 'edit' so that they can edit the page, but they get an error the moment they click save [16:17:06] anyway there is now a configuration setting just for those whiners on (english) wikipedia to restore ugly logs :o [16:17:51] tale: the actual saving process stupidly doesn't run the hook that I use [16:18:59] Skizzerz: Those hooks are evil that way. [16:19:10] yeah, /me is fixing that atm [16:19:22] so are image redirects turned off now? [16:19:28] that may cause some bitching [16:19:41] Nikerabbit: they bitched hard last time, remember? [16:19:47] then brion reverted it [16:19:58] Bitchy bitches. [16:20:08] "but my JS script is broken!" [16:20:09] Bitchy bitches and evil hooks. [16:20:40] because clearly MW should be written with b/c for screen-scapping JS hacks [16:20:44] 03(NEW) Attach Template to existing page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13625 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: MultiBoilerplate; (axel.weber) [16:24:18] 03(NEW) Create a web interface for adding wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13626 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Extensions requests; (wikia.jack) [16:24:56] AaronSchulz: let they bitch [16:25:04] hehe [16:25:19] it's up to brion or someone else to set that variable to false [16:25:26] "screen-scapping" [16:25:55] heh [16:26:14] "let they bitch" [16:26:28] hrr [16:26:44] this reminds me from the enchanted changes list discussion back 2005 or so [16:27:41] 03(NEW) The move reason field should be one line only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13627 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (mike.lifeguard) [16:27:43] *AaronSchulz enchants recent changes with faerie dust [16:28:10] :o [16:28:28] man, I just can't believe how long file reverts were broken [16:28:44] heh [16:28:54] I mean 8 months [16:28:57] nobody noticed [16:29:05] heh [16:29:15] AaronSchulz, or if they did, they didn't tell us. [16:29:23] It was probably mentioned on five enwiki policy and help pages. [16:29:30] lol [16:29:43] "why does it always revert to the first archived image"? [16:30:02] "A: You prolly clicked the wrong one" [16:30:12] ahah and Tim seemed quite pissed about this yesterday, or was he ? :) [16:30:12] 03(mod) Create a web interface for adding wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13626 (10cbrown1023) [16:30:32] NicDumZ: at first he was almost sure it was my change [16:30:44] it seemed to unlikely for it to be 8 month breakage [16:31:06] *too [16:32:22] Everyone: Its a little embarrassing, but I can only find Common_rtl.css. Do I need to create common.css (in the common directory)? [16:32:31] 03(mod) Attach Template to existing page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13625 (10minuteelectron) [16:33:09] my wiki is installed at /wiki/ and i have subdomain http://wiki.redcaptm.org to /wiki/ but it doesnīt work. only if i enter http://wiki.redcaptm.org/index.php5 . any idea? [16:33:40] 03aaron * r32856 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialRevisiondelete.php: Use constant name [16:33:42] ESL|redcap`tm: Did you follow FAQ about short urls? [16:34:26] no [16:36:58] is anyone available to tell me why the InfoDataCapture extension I have isnt returning any value, resulting in an error? [16:37:24] SupaBad, who wrote the extension? [16:37:38] but i donīt want short urlīs i only want that wiki is accessable at http://wiki.redcaptm.org [16:38:21] Simetrical: sortaSean, eParka [16:38:29] normaly index.php is fetched automatically to the doamin [16:38:33] 03aaron * r32857 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Use different message for log items [16:38:35] but not here [16:38:36] SupaBad, maybe find and ask them? [16:38:55] ESL|redcap`tm, ask whoever's responsible for your webserver, like in #apache. [16:39:35] I thought itīs a well known wiki "problem" [16:42:40] Is anyone available to review my simple patch here : https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10049 ? :) [16:43:06] ESL|redcap`tm, maybe I'm misunderstanding the issue. [16:44:33] wiki is installed in path /wiki/ my subdomain http://wiki.redcaptm.org/ is configured at path /wiki/ [16:44:39] NicDumZ, isn't that special page cached, not run live? How does that work? [16:44:45] It has isExpensive() returning true. [16:44:55] but if you click on the link you will get a error message [16:45:20] you have to enter http://wiki.redcaptm.org/index.php5 [16:45:33] and i donīt understand why [16:46:06] if i create a index.htm or html i get same error as without index.php5 [16:46:43] but whe i configure subdomain to /wiki/index.php5 i can enter page with http://wiki.redcaptm.org/ but the skins are missing [16:46:50] Simetrical, good question, I really don't know the mecanism behind cached specialpages. (even if it works when MiserMode is off) [16:46:56] ESL|redcap`tm: Put index.html in wiki.redcaptm.org directory, and put HTML redirect in that file to point to wiki/index.php5 [16:47:23] ESL|redcap`tm, I think you want to change Apache to load index.php5 before index.php on a simple page load. [16:47:28] Simetrical: how do you suggest I go about contacting one of them? [16:47:35] 03(NEW) Reloading pages after flagging slows things down - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13628 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken) [16:47:44] SupaBad, Google their names and look for e-mail addresses or talk pages? [16:48:09] i already tried to do this tale, but i got same error message as when you click on http://wiki.redcaptm.org/ [16:48:13] ESL|redcap`tm, ask in #apache how to do this. [16:48:19] Warning: main(./LocalSettings.php) [function.main]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in /www/htdocs/w00798ae/wiki/includes/WebStart.php on line 86 [16:49:56] ESL|redcap`tm, try adding something like this to .htaccess. DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.php5 index.php [16:50:04] ESL|redcap`tm, on a line by itself at the bottom. [16:52:23] i havenīt any file like this [16:52:44] i have no root, only a webspace [16:52:57] ESL|redcap`tm, try creating a file in your web root called .htaccess with the line I told you. [16:53:20] 03(NEW) Flagged Revision Box is above categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13629 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken) [16:53:27] ah i found anything ... [16:53:30] i will try [16:53:42] ESL|redcap`tm: Or perhaps ask you website admin staff to set your site up properly? [16:54:00] tale, it seems like it's set up properly on their end. [16:54:08] He just needs to make sure he's using PHP 5. [16:55:49] i got this message at entering the config path [16:55:49] PHP 5.0.0 or higher is required. If PHP 5 is available only when PHP files have a .php5 extension, please navigate to index.php5 to continue installation. ABORTING. [16:56:13] so i clicked on php5 and installation was successfull [16:56:45] ESL|redcap`tm: I asked my webhotel staff to set up my webhotel to use PHP5 only. [16:56:49] ESL|redcap`tm, yes, but it's trying to go to .php instead of .php5 when you visit the URL directly. You need to change that using DirectoryIndex. [16:56:52] Problem solved. [16:56:59] ESL|redcap`tm, have you tried? [16:57:59] should i create this file in wiki directory? [16:59:26] You know what would be nice in the table formatting? To be able to put |- at the end of line, like | col1 | col2 | col3 |- to break it. Editing tables is ugly with |- on it's own line. [17:00:27] THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH YOU TWO :D [17:00:36] now subdomain is working :) [17:01:34] thanks tale, thanks Simetrical [17:02:09] k4jcw or at the start of the line [17:02:29] |- | blah | blah [17:03:03] Start of line makes more sense. [17:03:51] wouldn't be a huge changed to the parser [17:04:07] but since I won't be the one doing it I won't call it trivial ;) [17:04:08] *Any* change to the parser is a huge change. :) [17:04:16] 03(mod) Flagged Revision Box is above categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13629 normal->low (10JSchulz_4587) [17:04:25] At least, I don't want to have anything to do with it. [17:10:16] .7FUNIQ1c02d9fc5c7a79a7-nowiki-00000038-QINU.7FPortail_Antarctique.7FUNIQ1c02d9fc5c7a79a7-nowiki-00000039-QINU.7F [17:10:42] that's an anchor id, generated from a header "{{tl|Portail Antarctique}}" [17:10:50] should we have bug triages? [17:12:56] I guess that is no.. but we have thousands of bugs open [17:13:33] NicDumZ, the joys of a multi-pass parser. [17:14:06] it might do some good to clean up the open bugs [17:14:40] and, worse, tens of bugs labelled as "patch" or "need-review" [17:14:57] we could start immediately :o [17:15:53] if there is more volunteers than only me [17:16:22] *TheDaveRoss isn't a fan of bugzilla in the first place, it makes looking for bugs har [17:16:23] d [17:16:49] I feel I'm not experimented enough to do this cleaning :( [17:17:03] NicDumZ: then you can learn :) [17:18:05] well, I'm available... I'm waiting for some further answers to my questions around rev_type, to see if I can do something with it for GSoC... [17:18:09] http://tinyurl.com/5ax2hu open bugs with patch in keywords [17:18:23] 200. that's huge list already [17:18:49] should we remove "patch" from patches that are told to be obsolete ? [17:19:18] no idea, let's see which kinds of bugs there is [17:20:12] 03(NEW) warning message about allow_call_time_pass_reference in [[ Special:Revisiondelete]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13630 major; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (bertrand.grondin) [17:20:47] wasn't the remaining warnings of these fixed lately https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12202 [17:21:21] !rev 32810 [17:21:21] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "rev". You might try: !access !flaggedrevs !lockdown !moderation !oversight !preventaccess !preventingaccess !protect !r !revert !rights !rollback !toc !undo !userrights !wysiwyg [17:21:29] !r 32810 [17:21:29] --mwbot-- http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=32810 [17:22:05] ialex: can you confirm? :o [17:22:48] Nikerabbit: should be [17:22:59] Nikerabbit: only if no extension use Image class [17:23:26] ialex: hmm [17:23:29] ialex: is it deprecated? [17:23:32] Nikerabbit: yes [17:23:46] ialex: is there wfDeprected() in that code path? [17:23:49] 03nhuffschmid * r32858 10/trunk/wap/hawhaw/hawhaw.inc: merge with hawhaw V5.17 (Brion's enhancements will become part of next official hawhaw release, thanks :) [17:23:52] Nikerabbit: no [17:23:57] Nikerabbit: but i can add it [17:24:00] :) [17:24:09] ialex: ok [17:24:19] could help to identify those extensions [17:26:28] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12568 looks like easy to check if it still applies [17:29:06] 03(NEW) Wikimedia OpenID provider - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13631 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (Bryan.TongMinh) [17:30:11] Nikerabbit: done [17:30:16] 03ialex * r32859 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/Image.php: Per request of Nikerabbit: add wfDeprecated() to all methods of Image class. [17:31:12] ialex: any luck with SocialProfile extension? :) [17:31:19] Jack_Phoenix: i'm on it [17:31:25] cool :-) [17:31:35] *Jack_Phoenix wanders off and tries not to bug you too much ;-) [17:31:40] Jack_Phoenix: i fixed a lot of E_NOTICE ;) [17:31:53] heh, I can believe that...^_^ [17:32:15] and some XHTML errors also [17:32:30] 03(FIXED) PHP Strict Standards issues - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12202 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [17:39:26] 03nikerabbit * r32860 10/trunk/phase3/languages/classes/LanguageFi.php: * (bug 13435) Number grouping [17:39:54] About editing a Special page code (yes I know I shouldn't): How can I return a template code? Sth like: return "{{MyTemplate|$title}}"; so when calling the special page it acts like the template was willed with the tite as on a regular page? [17:40:03] 03(FIXED) formatnum to handle thousands separator correctly in finnish - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13435 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [17:40:56] Who changed it so there's no space by default after the /* auto-section thing */ in the comment box? It's annoying. [17:41:37] *Mike||gone noticed that too :\ [17:41:49] *Simetrical looks [17:44:54] I blame . . . [17:44:57] !r 32376 [17:44:57] --mwbot-- http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=32376 [17:45:56] Maybe not, though. [17:45:57] Have to check. [17:46:02] hey [17:46:37] Hmm, wait. [17:46:39] It works on localhost. [17:46:41] thanks again Simetrical, bye all [17:46:42] *Simetrical scratches head [17:47:04] im turk.............. [17:47:29] ßß... [17:47:35] urgh [17:47:48] quite slow bug hunting activity :< [17:48:46] Wait, that change is a totally different code path. [17:50:52] $sectionanchor = $wgParser->guessSectionNameFromWikiText( $this->summary ); [17:50:54] Hee. [17:51:12] NOOO [17:51:22] that code should die die die [17:51:37] Aha. [17:51:44] $this->summary = "/* " . [17:51:45] $wgParser->stripSectionName(trim($matches[2])) . [17:51:45] " */ "; [17:51:48] So why is it not working? [17:53:07] 03simetrical * r32861 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: Some random whitespace/style fixes [17:54:33] Oh-ho. [17:54:40] I was right after all. [17:54:48] The issue only appears on submit, it strips the whitespace then. [17:55:21] is there a list somewhere of the mediawiki extensions used by wikipedia? [17:55:55] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version [17:55:59] TimStarling, is there a way to get wfLoadExtensionMessages to support different locales, rather than sticking all languages inside the same file? [17:56:20] 03ialex * r32862 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SpecialRevisiondelete.php): (bug 13630) allow_call_time_pass_reference warnings in Special:Revisiondelete [17:56:24] ABCD_away: thanks [17:57:15] Dantman: put require( 'other_locale_file.php' ) in the main file, maybe [17:57:50] T_T Ya... but that defeats a little of the purpose of large extensions separating locales so they only load what is needed [17:58:33] 03simetrical * r32863 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: [17:58:33] Partial revert of r32376: don't strip whitespace from summaries. If you do, [17:58:33] that means that the default "/* Section name */ " summary loses its trailing [17:58:33] space if you hit preview before submitting, which is noticeably inconsistent and [17:58:33] annoying. Maybe trim it on save, but I don't know if there's any point. [17:58:33] Mike_lifeguard, there we go. Fixed in r32863. [17:58:37] \o/ [17:58:37] 03(FIXED) warning message about allow_call_time_pass_reference in [[ Special:Revisiondelete]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13630 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [17:58:54] *Mike_lifeguard grins [17:59:10] now how would you like to turn the move reason text area into a text box (ie one line high)?? [17:59:29] bug 13627 [17:59:54] 03(mod) Remove section markup inside heading text when using "section= new" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1600 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:01:31] 03(ASSIGNED) Cannot rename/move images and other media files. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709 +comment (10vasilvv) [18:04:52] 03simetrical * r32864 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: (log message trimmed) [18:04:52] Slight tweak to last commit: don't preserve whitespace if it is actually a [18:04:52] heading.\nI'm not actually clear on why we want to introduce this voodoo [18:04:52] =-stripping behavior, actually? Do people really enter stuff like "== Section [18:04:53] name ==" for their edit summary, and *not* mean it to be saved that way? Why is [18:04:55] the expected result to strip the equals signs? And would it make more sense to [18:04:57] do the normalization on save as well or also on previews, as we do now? The [18:05:10] Rats, the \n was sent through literally. [18:05:18] I have to learn how bash does escaping in strings. [18:07:05] *Mike_lifeguard prods Simetrical towards bug 13627 :DD [18:10:36] 03(mod) The move reason field should be one line only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13627 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:10:42] Simetrical: last time i used --message="... $wgRequest ..." i got "... ..." as summary :D [18:10:56] ialex, yes, that's always fun. [18:11:05] I usually remember to escape $ and " now. [18:11:19] *ialex too, now [18:11:27] ! is especially fun, since it seems the only way to escape it is like "Hello! How are you?" -> "Hello"'!'" How are you?" [18:11:44] OO [18:11:48] Question, if I delete an image, does it also delete the image on the server (that is the real bitmap image)? [18:11:59] Simetrical: are newlines in the move reason turned into spaces? or...? [18:12:04] svip: no [18:12:09] :| [18:12:19] Is there a way to do that from the interface? [18:12:21] Mike_lifeguard, IIRC, yes. [18:12:23] I think there's a setting to not save deleted images isn't ther? [18:12:24] Or . . . hmm. [18:12:48] Actually, maybe they're just displayed as literal newlines in HTML, and nobody notices the difference. :P [18:12:54] Mike_lifeguard, don't think so, why would there be? [18:13:01] svip: but it moves it to a directory that should only be viewabled by Special:Undelete [18:13:03] svip, generally there's no way to really destroy information from the interface. [18:13:10] By design. [18:13:12] -d [18:13:49] well remember back in the day, images that were deleted were really deleted... then something changed and now they're still stored [18:14:04] Yes. [18:14:15] so if there's not a setting to get that behaviour back, one might find a way to do it by looking at the old code [18:14:38] Simetrical, to get a literal newline in bash, $'\n' works wonders :) [18:14:58] Geez. [18:15:08] Mike_lifeguard, that's a lot of code to revert. [18:15:21] Fairly major structural changes to how deleted images are handled. [18:15:24] 03aaron * r32865 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (4 files): [18:15:24] * Fix call to bogus variable [18:15:24] * Form sexification [18:15:28] o_O [18:15:30] *Mike_lifeguard wouldn't know [18:15:40] "MediaWiki: now with 20% sexier forms!" [18:16:03] wtf [18:16:08] I thought it now classed forms as male, female, or "other" [18:16:09] *BrokenArrow goes looking for new boobs in forms [18:16:24] *AaronSchulz thinks of an episode of SP [18:16:50] 03nikerabbit * r32866 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DifferenceEngine.php: * Small cleanups [18:20:31] AaronSchulz, my brother watches South Park continuously on his second monitor while doing absolutely everything. [18:20:43] I used to watch it. [18:21:49] 03aaron * r32867 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/flaggedrevs.css: clear: both [18:22:34] form sexification xD [18:26:04] 03aaron * r32868 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Same bogus variable [18:26:40] 03nikerabbit * r32869 10/trunk/extensions/CleanChanges/CleanChanges_body.php: * Not needed [18:38:29] :/ I need a better way to do test cases for parserfunctions [18:48:59] Special Page coding: how can i get the complete download link of a file as plain text when $download = $skin->makeMediaLinkObj( $nt ); si creating a donwloand link? [18:49:12] **how can i get the complete download URL [18:49:22] 04(REOPENED) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 (10alefzet) [18:49:40] TimStarling: What's the SFH_OBJECT_ARGS ie: ???Obj methods about in the ParserFunctions? [18:51:03] 03(mod) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 +comment (10alefzet) [18:53:54] 03aaron * r32870 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.php FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php FlaggedRevsPage.php): [18:53:54] * Add a sexy page to list stable pages [18:53:54] * Use alphabetical pager [18:53:54] * Remove extra field from select [18:54:04] Dantman: he is not here [18:54:55] Tsk, Tsk, Tsk... I finally decide to rip code out of one of his extensions... And boom... he's gone... rofl [18:58:20] 03catrope * r32871 10/trunk/extensions/Woopra/Woopra.php: Declare $html more cleanly. [19:01:16] I lost 3 tables from the database, page_restrictions, category_links and jobs. In general can I regenerate these? [19:02:19] Is it possible to restrict moving pages to autoconfirmed users? [19:02:30] So people don't register just to move a page. [19:02:35] yes [19:02:38] ! [19:03:06] So like $wgGroupPermissions['autoconfirmed']['move'] = false; ? [19:03:20] svip, you want that to be true. [19:03:28] $wgGroupPermissions['user']['move'] = false; [19:03:37] $wgGroupPermissions['autoconfirmed']['move'] = true; [19:03:37] No. [19:03:46] I phrased it wrong. [19:03:58] Wait... you're right. [19:03:58] faceface: the RefreshLinks.php maintenance script should help for #2, and #3 has volatile content anyway. [19:04:00] Hehe... [19:04:02] *svip slaps self. [19:04:36] BrokenArrow, cool, thanks [19:04:55] faceface: I don't think you can rebuold #1 without parsing the logs, though. [19:06:08] The page_restrictions table didn't always exist, right? Is there redundant info stored in the page table? [19:06:39] oh... I wonder why I lost it ... nm [19:06:45] 03(mod) issues getting to move protection box with screen reader JAWS in English Wikipedia and form labels - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11039 (10raimond.spekking) [19:06:51] 03(mod) Markup accessibility issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367 (10raimond.spekking) [19:06:59] 03(mod) Special page for errors during parse. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12930 +comment (10rene.kijewski) [19:07:13] it used to be in page_restrictions, don't know if the code still updates that [19:07:37] faceface: which version of MW are you using? [19:07:55] 1.12 [19:08:10] mediawiki-1.12.0 [19:08:31] ok, so the table should be there and usede. [19:08:53] yeah... not sure why but the myd / myi files went missing on the server [19:09:52] faceface: if your wiki didn't have much protection activity, you can use the logging table to get a list of protected pages and work from ther.e [19:10:48] I don't think anything was protected [19:11:35] that's about all that would be stored in page_protecion, so you can just recreate it empty from tables.sql :) [19:11:43] cool :D [19:16:43] BrokenArrow, to get the pages back I used maintenance/tables.sql in the test database, I am now copying myd / myi / frm files into the current mysql directory... does that sound reasonable? [19:22:05] PHP Notice: Undefined index: globals in /BiO/Serve/Httpd/Biodatabase.org/mediawiki-1.12.0/maintenance/refreshLinks.php on line 41 ? [19:22:09] dunno. I'd have left the database engine take care of that, not fiddled with the files. [19:22:21] heh... the files dissapeared! [19:22:52] don't you have access to MySQL command-line or, say, phpMyAdmin? [19:23:21] yup... oh.. 'database engine' right... yeah... [19:23:29] I read 'mw engine' [19:26:55] rebuildall.php? [19:27:06] (I am dubious about what has been going on in the DB) [19:29:35] 03aaron * r32872 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php FlaggedRevsPage.php): Make reviewing go smoother by skipping reload (bug 13628) [19:29:53] 03(FIXED) Reloading pages after flagging slows things down - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13628 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [19:30:10] hrm... rebuild all seems to kill mysql [19:31:48] 03aaron * r32873 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: Tweak [19:32:56] hello, I was wondering if anyone can help me with a problem I face trying to get certain data from a wikipedia dump? [19:33:21] iain, tried pywikipediabot? [19:33:37] nope [19:33:37] 03aaron * r32874 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: Mention new special page [19:33:39] what is that [19:33:55] iain, you better explain your problem first [19:36:25] Okay, my problem is this. I want to start with an article. Say for instance "London Bridge" I then need to find all articles that are linked to from that article.Then for each result I need to find all articles linked to from that article and so and so forth. But I only need the tree to go 5 levels deep. I figure by that point I'll have enough data. [19:37:01] and you said you had dumps? [19:38:43] I have revision, page, text and pagelinks full [19:38:53] Which I figured would be enough. [19:39:28] pagelinks sounds promising... I don't use dumps much. You can do this with pywikipediabot on a 'live' instance of a wiki [19:39:41] are these xml or sql dumps? [19:39:48] Really?? Wow. They are in mysql [19:40:15] The trouble is there is 121,000,000 links in my pagelinks table [19:40:46] iain, just look up the details of the schema for pagelinks and page - the rest is basic programming... or sql.. ppl here prolly wont help you with that [19:41:02] iain, programs are good at that kind of thing [19:41:04] ah ha I have done this. [19:41:28] I have written a java program that would work [19:41:53] however every iteration it has to search the 121,000,000 records for all those that link to the right one [19:42:00] subsequently it takes ages [19:42:14] iain, index the table [19:42:44] faceface: sorry, was afk. rebuildall probably safer, but always work on a backup. [19:43:32] BrokenArrow, sure [19:44:02] faceface, i think it should already be indexed. I can't understand how it takes so long [19:44:19] faceface, i'll just check hold on [19:44:22] me either... keeep debugging [19:46:36] 03(mod) Image rendering and resizing daemon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4854 (10Bryan.TongMinh) [19:47:11] faceface, okay my server seems to have frozen. Anyway I'll keep debugging as you say.Thanks for your help [19:47:46] ;-) [19:49:41] the server I am using is run by a friend, he runs 100s of mw installs on some kind of semi automaic farm.... for some reason (recent upgrade) many job tables have gone missing... could the mw upgrade be somehow related to this? sorry for the vague question... [19:49:46] more specifically, is job new? [19:51:04] unless he had a veeery old setup, no. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Database_layout [19:51:18] BrokenArrow, define veeery ;-) [19:51:42] faceface: 1.6 is "history" :) [19:53:07] OK [19:53:46] unless freezed there because of php4... [19:53:51] yeah [19:53:54] I think not [19:55:59] faceface: 2006-04-05: 1.6.0 new stable branch [19:56:18] well... like I said I am running 1.12.0 [19:56:36] Raymond_? [19:56:49] thing is, we are running mysql.x86_64, 5.0.45-6.fc7 and the rebuildall.php maintainance script kills mysql! [19:56:53] AaronSchulz: hm? [19:57:00] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12064 [19:57:04] want to do it? :) [19:57:15] would someone care to help me debug why a extension is causing the page not to render at all in certain circumstances? [19:57:24] http://www.honeycomb-hideout.net/wiki/extensions/Auth_SMF.phps [19:57:49] if I comment out either the AutoAuthenticate or User Logout... it starts rendering again [19:58:00] !debug [19:58:00] --mwbot-- For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [19:58:06] faceface: ow. can't help with that. [19:58:06] ^ [19:58:09] woo [19:58:29] that's why there were no errors! [19:58:34] it all makes sense now =) [19:58:56] BrokenArrow, yeah... its a mysql issue [19:59:04] thanks for help though! [20:00:02] kassah_, it might be a simple syntax error that is now showing up => white page [20:00:19] AaronSchulz: I am not very familar with hooks, but would be a nice challenge to try :) but not before tuesday because I am not at home atm, no testwikis available on this pc [20:00:20] faceface: np. you could try looking for domas, he might help [20:00:29] yeah... that's kinda what I figured... it sorta works... as in if you're logged in... it renders [20:00:35] but if you're not... it's white [20:00:40] figured it was running into a runtime error [20:00:59] BrokenArrow, the simple solution is - don't run rebuildall! [20:01:06] but I just turned on error reporting... still nothing... might it be caching? [20:01:26] http://www.honeycomb-hideout.net/wiki/index.php [20:01:40] well... that might work, too :-) but it's nice to have workinig scripts in the repo :) [20:01:48] BrokenArrow, heh [20:01:59] Also I need to 'check' all the databases for errors [20:03:24] lemme check apache's logs [20:03:53] 03(ASSIGNED) Add hook BeforePageDisplay to all skins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12064 (10raimond.spekking) [20:05:32] hrrm.... no log entries [20:15:10] NicDumZ: so... upon request... I setup a debug.log for mediaWiki $wgDebugLogFile = $IP.'/debug.log'; and stuff is getting appended.... but nothing that indicates an error at all [20:15:28] ah. [20:17:40] I personally can't help more then. But I'm not the only one here ;) [20:19:29] =) [20:19:47] well I'm just throwing debugs throughout the code to try and figure out if any of it's stopping in there [20:21:15] is there a chart somewhere that says what stuff does with the various return values of the hooks? [20:24:30] kassah_, docs/hooks.txt might help [20:25:58] 03ialex * r32875 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (bug 12064) BeforePageDisplay hook is now called for all skins [20:26:27] 03(FIXED) Add hook BeforePageDisplay to all skins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12064 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [20:26:40] 03(NEW) Diffs do not show changes in whitespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13632 normal; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (l8qjvx002) [20:27:45] I see... [20:28:54] oh heh [21:02:55] 03(NEW) Some changing on Ukrainian Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D13633 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (Ahonc.ua) [21:03:40] 03(NEW) Add configuration options to broaden (or otherwise specify ) the set of characters available when naming pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13634 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (mhorvath2161) [21:05:50] *ialex stabs wikibugs : giving wrong urls [21:07:52] 03amidaniel * r32876 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialRevisiondelete.php: Oh, didn't realize there were constants for the bitfields. Let's use those here instead too. [21:12:26] I'm writing a parser function and I want to know if there is a way to retrieve the wikitext of another page so I can parse it and use the contents in my render function [21:12:39] I tried to google this but I must be using the wrong terms :( [21:13:03] I don't mind reading if someone can point me in the right direction [21:14:16] $title = Title::newFromText( 'Namespace:Pagename' ); $article = new Article( $title ); $wikitextofanotherpage = $article->getContent(); [21:14:32] Awesome, thanks MinuteElectron [21:14:42] Is there an index of available functions [21:15:04] http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/ [21:15:07] I tried to find that too but couldn't [21:15:09] see the class list [21:15:16] score, thanks again [21:17:21] *sprax looking at the doxygen page [21:17:25] outstanding [21:30:55] 03dale * r32877 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/includes/specials/MV_SpecialExport.php: fixed ROE schema def issue [21:38:53] 03siebrand * r32878 10/trunk/tools/planet/en/config.ini: [21:38:53] Update Majorly's feed for Wikipedia tag only [21:38:53] Also see: http://majorlyhot.blogspot.com/2008/04/driving-fun.html [21:40:19] 03(NEW) enwiki database dump got wrong date - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13635 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Downloads; (Wiki.Melancholie) [21:48:42] MinuteElectron Thanks for your help. Im kind of new to Media Wiki mods [21:57:55] k [21:58:08] 03aaron * r32879 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.php FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php): [21:58:08] * Add preference for users to show the stable version by default [21:58:08] * Use more direct check than isAnon() [22:01:24] 03aaron * r32880 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: Be clearer [22:11:02] 03siebrand * r32881 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/Translate.php: [22:16:32] 03siebrand * r32882 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuth.i18n.php: Rearrange newlines, remove some trailing whitespace [22:21:35] 03(NEW) Wiktionary does not yet have an entry for NAMESPACE: Article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13636 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (jidanni) [22:27:31] !sub-page [22:27:31] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "sub-page". [22:29:33] I dont get Link(s) back to parent(s) of the subpage(s) from sub-page, must I install extension? [22:30:35] !subpages [22:30:35] --mwbot-- By default some namespaces have subpages enabled and others don't. You can enable or disable them using $wgNamespacesWithSubpages in LocalSettings.php. [22:30:43] BjornH, that one [22:31:04] Reedy, tank you, I will read obout it! [22:31:14] Its very simple to do :) [22:32:11] I test, in my site, from exasmple http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Example_page/Some_sub-page but no backlink. [22:34:03] Also $wgNamespacesWithSubpages not exisat in localSettings... Must read more. [22:34:49] BjornH when a setting isn't in localsettings, it uses the default in defaultsettings.php :) [22:35:13] Yes, i just start check. [22:36:05] I'm sure this is a common question but I don't see it on the FAQ: is it possible to display MediaWiki through one or more JSR-168 portlets? [22:37:24] Mulder[_]: whatever that is. but in the end, it's just an html page like any other. [22:39:05] Duesentrieb: is it possible to break the rendering up into seperate chunks? essentially render each of the blocks seperately [22:39:46] My default about $wgNamespacesWithSubpages, all is YES. http://paste.vishet.se/?id=110 BUT STILL NO FUNCTION. [22:40:01] yes=TRUE. [22:40:45] Hello ST47. [22:41:01] 14(INVALID) Wiktionary does not yet have an entry for NAMESPACE:Article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13636 +comment (10cbrown1023) [22:41:09] Mulder[_]: sure. put each on a separate page. if you want to show them all together, include them as templates. if you want to onclude them somewhere else, use action=render to get just the rendered text without all the navigation cruft [22:41:41] 04(REOPENED) Add MagicNoNumberedHeadings + PSINoTocNum Extensions in kshwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11216 (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [22:41:48] Hello MZMcLazin [22:42:17] BjornH: "all is yes"? no, it isn't. that's not all namespaces. that's only the namespaces that are supposed to have subpages. the rest defaults to "false". [22:42:57] you would have to set $wgNamespacesWithSubpages[NS_MAIN] = true; in your localsettings [22:43:02] !config | BjornH [22:43:02] --mwbot-- BjornH: All configuration is done in LocalSettings.php (near the end of the file). Editing other files means modifying the software. Default settings are not in LocalSettings.php, you can look in DefaultSettings.php. See , , [22:43:52] Duesentrieb, Hum, ok. Tank you, I will read this to. All take long time with my bad English. [22:44:31] BjornH: just put all your config into LocalSettings.php and don't mess with other files :) [22:44:44] Per today, MediaWiki has proper localisation for 100 languages for the 489 most often used messages. That is something special. [22:44:57] Duesentrieb, yes, that I now :-) [22:45:20] siebrand: cool [22:45:27] good - people tend to edit DefaultSettings [22:46:16] Very nice, siebrand. :) [22:51:00] hi dudes - [22:51:16] i have simple question - but i cant sleep before i get this - [22:51:47] on a simple mediawiki - how can i check out - how many users have registreted [22:51:50] ???? [22:51:57] on my site [22:52:04] Special:Alluseres? [22:52:08] just a guess.. [22:52:14] (users spelled properly) [22:52:14] Special:Statistics also [22:53:04] Is there any sort of index extension available? If you compare the Category to the table of contents in a book, I want to build an index. Something like [[Index:word1 word2 word3 word4]]. and the Index page would contain links to the various pages under each word1, word2, etc. [22:53:10] but on special pages - i dont have a topic allusers [22:53:29] Muinator: "User list" [22:53:46] that wont have a raw stat tho [22:53:50] unlike statistics [22:54:43] thanks - i got it........... [22:54:48] :-) [22:57:19] 03(mod) Wiktionary does not yet have an entry for NAMESPACE:Article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13636 +comment (10conrad.irwin) [22:59:10] 03(mod) Add MagicNoNumberedHeadings + PSINoTocNum Extensions in kshwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11216 (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [23:14:50] 100 languages have basic support in MediaWiki :) [23:14:59] thought you might like to know [23:15:11] 03aaron * r32883 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/flaggedrevs.css: Lighten [23:17:52] GerardM-: siebrand already told us :) [23:18:06] Good [23:18:18] [18:44:30] Per today, MediaWiki has proper localisation for 100 languages for the 489 most often used messages. That is something special. [23:18:19] well, good news is good news :) [23:18:27] very good news [23:19:02] *GerardM- it is however not even 33% of all the languages we support [23:19:17] the growth however is fantastic [23:26:48] why do history pages look fucked up? [23:27:10] where? [23:28:15] because history is written by the victors [23:28:25] the spacing is shit [23:28:31] did someone mess up the css? [23:29:21] brion: so it turns out log_deleted was never added yet...so, no scap fun :) [23:29:47] for whoever adds it, maybe they can try log_id the naive way too [23:30:06] AaronSchulz: eww, I see what you mean [23:30:11] aww [23:31:04] !r32854 [23:31:04] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "r32854". [23:33:09] !r 32854 [23:33:09] --mwbot-- http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=32854 [23:34:17] brion: are you going to clean that up or should I? [23:34:44] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=32844 as well [23:34:52] i'm a couple days behind atm [23:36:44] Simetrical? [23:37:07] MrZ-man: bah, I'll have to look at both [23:37:17] ah, brion, can I have your feedback about my last thread on wikitech-l before getting some sleep ? :Ãū [23:37:21] *MrZ-man is teh suck at CSS [23:38:13] moment [23:38:29] NicDumZ: special:contribution one? [23:38:34] yes [23:39:16] mebbe, mebbe not [23:39:34] might be worthwhile [23:39:34] NicDumZ: now is the time for schema changes, at least if log_deleted isn't there ;) [23:40:52] Could I seriously consider working around this for GSoC ? [23:42:11] heh [23:42:45] brion: I should have done GSoC for a project called "Teh stable versun" [23:50:35] 03(mod) enwiki database dump got wrong date - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13635 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [23:52:14] 14(INVALID) enwiki database dump got wrong date - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13635 +comment (10brion) [23:52:18] ah, strange one ^ I guess it is because the dump is on its way, and that no file has been generated yet ? [23:52:46] ah, right, got it, it's the old one. [23:54:38] brion: how is it that the 20080312 enwiki 7zip dump is 14.1 GB smaller than the 20080103 one? [23:55:57] 03aaron * r32884 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/DefaultSettings.php skins/common/shared.css): Tone down the user margins [23:56:03] ok, better [23:58:47] MrZ-man: prolly it's incomplete, mm? [23:59:21] yeah, something broken of some sort