[00:00:46] tyvm [00:00:56] installing ie8 now, if i don't come back don't come looking for me [00:01:53] ie8? [00:02:10] o.0 [00:02:24] 03aaron * r33207 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/SpecialConfirmAccount.php: Delay loading here [00:02:42] Skizzerz: someone has to write the howto fix ie8 websites [00:02:55] so we'll let them use it to try it out ;) [00:48:46] siebrand: sorry :( [00:49:04] *Werdna waves [00:50:35] hiya Werdna [00:50:56] hello [01:11:52] I'd like to remove the external link icon from all external links on my MediaWiki install. I know that the plainlinks class can be applied to particular links, but is there a way I can apply it to all links on the site, or otherwise remove the icons from all links? [01:13:47] Why, yes, there is. [01:14:12] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Links [01:14:18] See the CSS code fragment at the bottom [01:14:29] Would you be kind enough to tell me how? [01:14:31] You'll probably want to change the gopher:// in it. [01:15:12] I have tried that, but it leaves a (clickable) blank space to the right of the link text. [01:15:39] Hrm, dunno then. I ran across that, haven't tried it myself. That's all I know about the topic. [01:15:48] Howdy, All. [01:16:11] Hi, StochasticJack! [01:16:21] *StochasticJack chuckles. [01:16:40] Cool handle, All. [01:16:45] Thanks for the help, anyway. [01:16:53] sopoforic, sorry I can't help you more. [01:17:50] I'd like to ask a quick, if basic question, if I could: is it possible to apply category tags to images and other media files? [01:18:10] Yes. I was told how to do that today, myself. [01:18:17] How do you do it? [01:18:45] Go to the image or media file, click the edit tag at the top of the page, and put a [[category:foo]] tag in there where you have it's description. [01:20:06] Lemme try that. [01:20:51] k4jcw, I just realized what the problem was--the site I had copied the code fragment from had (mysteriously) included some padding. I took it out and now it works as advertised. [01:21:01] That'll teach me to blindly copy CSS fragments. [01:21:02] ah, good deal. [01:22:20] Ah, okay. That works, then. Thanks very much. [01:22:43] Now I have another problem, though. I put the code in Common.css, but it's only working in monobook--modern still shows the icons. Is there another file I need to override it in? [01:22:43] Sure thing [01:23:36] I'm not positive, but you may need to enable wgUseSiteCSS or something like that. Let me check. [01:24:12] !wg UseSiteCSS [01:24:12] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseSiteCSS [01:24:43] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUseSiteCss [01:24:58] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseSiteCss [01:25:25] Yah, you need to set $wgUseSiteCss = true; to use the Common.css [01:26:04] No, Common.css is working--but only in monobook. [01:26:27] I can't inspect the configuration right now, but since it defaults to on, and it's working for monobook, I don't think that's it. [01:26:58] sopoforic: More likely, modern uses different ids/classes. [01:27:51] If I could continue to waste people's time, I'd like to ask about subcategories. Can one have subcategories with identical names? For instance, suppose I have categories of Canada, United States, and Mexico; can I have a subcategory of Landmarks in each (e.g. Canada-->Landmarks, United States-->Landmarks, Mexico-->Landmarks), or does having Canada-->Landmarks invalidate using Landmarks as a subcategory in the others? [01:27:52] whats the channel where all the wikipedia system admins are in [01:29:05] That's odd. The help page does say it defaults to enabled, but I'm pretty sure I had to enable it to get my markup for tables to work. And doing a grep through the entire directory structure doesn't show anywhere it's enable be default. [01:30:00] Does anyone know where the code is that inserts all the categories at the bottom of a page? [01:30:13] In Monobook? [01:31:05] StochasticJack: I think you have to use "Canada landmarks", because categories are identified by unique names. [01:31:31] Okay. That's what I thought, akjohnson. It does seem very inconvenient, though. [01:31:53] I don't speak CSS, but wikipedia's Modern.css is using a.external, just like the code I copied, so I wouldn't think that it's using different classes for this. [01:33:44] putlake: It is in Monobook.php in the skins directory [01:33:52] putlake: It looks like: data['catlinks']) { ?>

html('catlinks') ?>

[01:34:18] akjohnson: thanks i'll check there. [01:35:24] StochasticJack: It may be inconvenient when it comes to making similar subcategories, but it's convenient when you want to easily link to a specific category and know which one you are linking to. It's also convenient to include a category inside several categories. [01:36:12] Okay. I think can see that. [01:37:35] StochasticJack: I'm not sure about how subpages work with categories; it might be nice if you could make a category "Canada/Landmarks" and have it display as "Landmarks" in the Canada category instead of the real name [01:39:22] That would be nice. I'm just trying to figure out which is going to be the best semantic approach; that is, which will be easiest for everyone else to use and stands the least chance of getting messed up over the long run. [01:57:40] hi [01:58:09] I have a little weird question [01:58:40] is there anyway to make a mediawiki site like hi5 and others social sites? [01:59:50] Wikia released a nice Social extension you might want to look at [02:00:33] bah [02:01:45] mm [02:09:08] Dantman: is there a wiki site like that alredy? [02:09:19] Hmmm] [02:10:05] I suppose WikiSocial: http://social.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page [02:10:33] hmm, thanks [02:10:50] crazy people [02:10:55] I need a wiki that makes coffee! [02:12:04] Hmmm.... maybe I'll make an extension for that... [02:12:05] rofl [02:12:54] Special:Latte [02:13:52] mhm [02:14:04] gief coffee machine with rpc [02:14:11] damn [02:14:15] that would be awesome [02:14:20] wifi-controllable coffee machine [02:15:00] rotfl [02:23:05] domas: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2324.html [02:25:16] Branching phase3 now... Hope it works... [02:25:43] Ack [02:26:16] \o/ tomorrows trip [02:26:16] http://www.google.com/maps?date=04%2F13%2F08&time=11:24am&f=d&saddr=562+Sutter+St,+San+Francisco&daddr=5101+Great+America+Parkway,+Santa+Clara,+CA+95054+(Hyatt+Regency+Santa+Clara)&dirflg=r&hl=en&ttype=dep&geocode=12526253156257607704,37.404591,-121.977726&sll=37.578324,-122.176208&sspn=0.515882,1.058807&ie=UTF8&z=10&start=0 [02:26:55] easymode, 2h. [02:27:05] Tips on how to branch? Before I do it the wrong way and break something... [02:28:12] public transit does tend to take a lot longer [02:29:39] mrz: than what? [02:29:53] driving [02:30:44] yeah [02:30:51] driving would be an hour or so [02:30:52] I guess [02:31:04] not having a car. I learned that first-hand [02:31:34] lol, 'avoid highways' = double travel time [02:31:53] at least you can take public transit, in some major US cities it is almost non-existent [02:32:42] its not first time I use public transit in bay area [02:32:53] Export to my folder, add/commit to branches/branchname, that the jist? [02:33:14] gist. [02:33:39] Or create folder over svn, then use svncopy (branch/tag in Tortoise) [02:38:23] :/ [02:40:33] huh, transit planners offer me transfering in mountainview, though there's a caltrain station less than one mile away from final destination [02:42:02] domas: they don't love you [02:42:05] Fine... If I break SVN... NMF [02:42:20] I just installed MediaWiki on my website, and when I goto the wiki it isn't using any CSS and looks plain and ugly. Did that happen because of a problem installing or something? [02:45:50] well, thanks for all [02:45:51] bye [02:47:25] Simetrical: Btw... TimStarling poked me into coming up with a better name... Using page_title_ui instead of page_real [02:53:15] Dantman well a least you didnt call it "mypage" :P [02:53:24] heh [02:53:58] Has anyone else had a problem where the wiki isn't using any CSS after you install it? I'm using Firefox 3, by the way. It also doesn't work in Konqueror [02:54:27] Something is probably wrong with your skins path [02:56:53] What do you mean by that? I looked in the source, and it is linking to a CSS file that is there, but it just isn't working... [02:57:09] The site is http://poopix.exofire.net/Wiki in case you want to take a look. [03:00:11] WTF.... [03:00:28] Your server is sending CSS with the text/html content type [03:02:01] Wait what? it says it is linking to a text/css file. [03:07:48] Ya... but your server is outputing it with a html content type [03:07:57] I know because I looked at the headers it is sending [03:08:09] Oh... [03:08:11] You need to configure it to send .css files with text/css [03:08:36] So this is something wrong with the server not the actual wiki coding? [03:10:14] T_T bug13676 makes me want to do a skin rewrite [03:17:52] 03shinjiman * r33208 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): [03:17:52] * Update Chinese translations [03:17:52] * Update Cantonese translations [03:17:52] * Update Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese translations [03:24:11] 03(mod) Add non-breaking spaces in additional places automatically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13619 +comment (10dan_the_man) [03:24:13] Dantman, skins should really be in mediawiki messages, not in php [03:25:09] ^_^ And... I was considering some sort of templating system... That kind of system would actually permit using MediaWiki messages for skins [03:25:25] Actually [03:26:30] Awhile back I was working on a skin which used the Smarty template system... I was building a setup where both WordPress and MediaWiki used the same skin templates so that I could have a skin or few which I created in the template syntax and would work in both a Blog and a Wiki [03:31:51] ^_^ Perhaps I'll start a discussion on a Skin rewrite once the Title rewrite has gotten to a good point [03:31:57] 03dantman * r33209 10/branches/titlerewrite/ (1334 files in 45 dirs): Initial import of stuff from trunk into the titlerewrite branch. [03:32:12] oooh... finally it finished [03:33:52] Good... I can start commiting selective bits of the rewrite into SVN once I get to dad's [03:36:05] My host requires me to have ads on every page, so is there any easy way to add them to the bottom of the Wiki, or do I need to go into the index page and search for where the footer is at? [03:38:14] You'll need to edit the skin [03:38:39] But it sounds like you are on a very bad host [03:38:50] !status [03:38:50] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "status". [03:39:39] Whoops, wrong channel. [03:39:39] Ah ok, thanks. And it's a free host, so I don't mind having forced text-link ads. [03:40:13] there are a lot of free hosts without ads [03:42:20] I know, but I wanted more space so I decided to go with the ads. [03:42:42] And this is the best looking domain name I've gotten from a free host, so I'm fine with it. [04:15:24] 03aaron * r33210 10/trunk/phase3/skins/common/shared.css: Actually, tone done colors [04:17:47] 03aaron * r33211 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Tweak [05:18:32] 03aaron * r33212 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Tweak log summary [05:54:32] 03aaron * r33213 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [05:54:32] * Add form to RCLinked and add to sp:specialpages [05:54:32] * Add WLH back to the list [06:23:52] 03midom * r33214 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LoadBalancer.php: [06:23:52] * don't shortcut readerindex for querygroups [06:23:52] * don't record readerindex if already recorded, or not in global loads [06:24:14] hello [06:29:16] !help [06:29:16] --mwbot-- Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot >, you can find all my source code at < http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn >. A dump is now available at < http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html > [06:39:29] 03aaron * r33215 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryLogEvents.php: Disallow shitty filesort query [07:15:58] Mixed Wiki an HTML table syntax renders differently on my MediaWiki installation and the en.wikipedia site. Which option do I have to set to make them work alike? [07:17:47] !tidy [07:17:47] --mwbot-- For more information about HTML Tidy, see . [07:20:27] 03aaron * r33216 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialRecentchangeslinked.php: Use getVal() [07:23:17] Thanks for the tidy hint. Will this take care of pages like [07:23:21] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_Company&action=edit [07:23:35] where you can see the midxed wiki and html table syntax? [07:23:59] I was under the impression that this was a parser issue, not a html cleanup issue. Wrong? [07:26:02] it is a parser issue [07:26:21] but using tidy allows the parser to ignore misconstructed html elements until the htmltidy does it [07:26:36] (that is, it uses tidy instead of the internal sanitizer) [07:26:59] or something [07:27:32] try something simple like [07:27:33] {{#if:1|}}

foo

bar

[07:27:53] the problem is, html without apparent proper structure [07:28:32] with tidy, it works as expecte [07:33:59] Many thanks so far! I will check your recommendation and get back with results, but this may take a while ... [07:34:02] AaronSchulz: does the style really need to just for h4 and not for all elements? [07:36:37] hmm, what? [07:36:47] I was about to go to bed :( [07:37:08] Oh, by the way: Are the MediaWiki options actually used by WikiPedia publically available somewhere? I know about the VERSION special page, but this does not mention any options nor tidy. [07:37:41] Nikerabbit: you mean the css thing [07:37:43] http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf [07:37:52] meh, change it if you think it best [07:38:34] *AaronSchulz goes to bed [07:39:36] Whow. More than excellent! I am stunned, many thanks! [07:41:07] how would I increase line spacing in a numbered list? [07:44:10] in one numbered list, or in all numbered lists? [07:44:21] Done - I added "$wgUseTidy = true;" to LocalSettings.php and my MediaWiki installation now renders the same as English WikiPedia. Thanks again for the super-fast help! [07:44:36] one list [07:45:15] no prob Ralf [07:46:42] Rorix: well, a lazy method would be something with html like... [07:46:43]

[07:47:04] I don't think you can use wikilists and inline stylings, but, you could do a wrapper div like... [07:47:34]

[07:47:34] #foo [07:47:37] and in site-wide css: [07:47:55] .extra_space_list ol, .extra_space_list ul {line-height:200%} [07:48:01] or whatnot [07:49:57] first method worked fine, thanks =) [08:04:04] 03nikerabbit * r33217 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (4 files): * Tweak css, remove line-height [08:06:01] hi tim [08:13:05] 03nikerabbit * r33218 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/TranslatePage.php: * Ooops [08:15:59] <_wooz> lo [08:21:58] ör [08:22:03] WHERE is my next-diff button? [08:23:04] http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Localization_checks&diff=179423&oldid=179421 [08:23:35] Nikerabbit: You should keep track of you things. I can't pick up after you lazybones. [08:23:58] tale: ? [08:24:01] Nikerabbit: Most likely your button is where you left it last time you used it. [08:24:30] it's not a button, it's a link [08:35:26] Hi, I have a feed that I want to add to the sidebar. What code would I add to monobook? I already created:

[08:35:48]

...now I just need to know how to add the feed. [08:43:31] Hi, all. I'm trying to troubleshoot a problem connecting to a database. I host the DB, but the wiki is under someone else's control, and I don't have easy access to those logs or anything. [08:43:46] hi, anyone know how I can add a feed to the sidebar? [08:44:05] "Fatal error: Call to a member function selectRow() on a non-object in includes/User.php on line 703" [08:48:57] 03(NEW) Stale diff pages in cache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13724 normal; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (niklas.laxstrom) [08:49:56] hello> anyone there? anyone know how I can add a feed to the sidebar? [08:52:23] odes2: just a link? [08:53:26] no, an actual feed. http://pipes.yahoo.com/odessa_ukraine/odessaweathertroday [08:53:39] it simply shows the weather for the day [08:53:53] then I will have a link to the ten days somewhere else [08:54:19] it is from weather.com, sucked through feed43, then yahoo pipes [08:54:54] nicker, in case you didn't see, I know where to edit, the tags around the feed, I just need to know how to add the feed [08:58:14] nicker? [08:59:59] You know... for awhile I've thought there's a much better way for a wiki engine to store it's page text than what we're doing in MW... [09:00:12] join #vikidia-fr [09:01:23] anyone here use the openID extension? what happens to existing users if it's installed? [09:04:51] Ooohh... OpenID..... [09:05:06] Though I haven't been able to get to it yet [09:05:13] Nothing I believe [09:05:55] It just lets new users create user accounts linked to OpenID, keeps normal login available by default, and lets older users also link an open id to their account [09:05:57] AFAIK [09:08:15] nicker? you there? [09:10:21] TimStarling, Simetrical: Ever thought of a better method of storing page text? [09:10:42] 03grondin * r33219 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuth.i18n.php: Localisation updates for extensions messages from Betawiki [09:10:55] anyone know how I can add a feed to the sidebar? I know it can be done, I just need to know the coding for the actual feed. [09:11:12] 03grondin * r33220 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFr.php: Localisation updates for extensions messages from Betawiki [09:12:18] Dantman: yes [09:13:00] I think page hash rather than an auto_inc id would be much better [09:13:22] why? [09:13:29] Think about it... [09:13:41] so that you can save like 0.1%? [09:14:08] the savings would miniscule compared to the concatenated gzip method [09:14:23] or anything else using inter-revision correlation for compression [09:15:39] Still unneccessary duplication... And with all those reverts... Not to mention that it's even possible then to compare equivilance between revisions [09:16:40] equivalence comparison can be had just by adding a SHA-1 column to the revision table [09:17:04] there's no need to reindex everything [09:17:32] hmm [09:17:51] Well you technically don't need to go and reindex all the old stuff if you give the system a gracefull fallback [09:18:13] And let them disable the fallback if they are on a new installation or have bothered to reindex [09:18:21] if saving full text in every revision is not a problem, why not keep it simple? [09:18:42] Oh well [09:19:04] as for duplication, like I said, there are far better ways to compress reverts [09:19:37] methods which will compress small edits as well [09:19:43] which are far more frequent than reverts [09:19:54] In that case.... Does rollback use the old ID or duplicate? [09:20:39] I believe it shares the same text ID [09:20:55] mkay [09:22:01] Mah, well... Just something to go with when I get back to my own wiki software [09:22:52] heh heh, store all revisions as per-line patches (with a 'cache' of the built wikitext for current)... would make annotation easier ^_^ [09:22:57] *Splarka ducks [09:23:12] and what happens when the hash function you use is comprehensively broken in a few years' time? [09:23:25] you'd have to reindex terabytes of text to a new hash function [09:25:22] Splarka: I don't know what you're ducking for [09:25:51] I discussed that idea in my talk at 21C3 in 2004 [09:26:04] but you don't use a cache of the current revision [09:26:08] well, what happens if someone diffs between 30,000 revisions? [09:26:10] you use reverse diffs [09:26:28] so you start at the current revision and store diffs back in time [09:26:40] or... "List of United States political families ?", 492,000 [09:26:46] and you don't have a sequence that goes back 30,000 revisions, you use key frames, like in video compression [09:26:51] ahh [09:27:03] that limits the amount of processing you need for random access [09:27:07] {{soimplementit}} [09:27:16] {{toohardbasket}} [09:27:42] {{soimplementit|makedantmandoit}} [09:27:52] heh [09:28:38] ^_^ Features which are best off created from the start, are things you'll only get me to build for my own to be developed software, heh.... mmm, lisp [09:28:55] Mmmm.... better parser language [09:30:09] *Splarka wonders how long it'd take to update the enwp schema to keyframed reverse-patched diffs [09:30:18] Dantman: you mean like flex/bision? [09:30:25] bison [09:30:32] Eh? [09:30:33] heh, you could 'play' them, like dxf files [09:30:43] you said you want a better parser language, right? [09:31:00] ^_^ I'm meaning one which didn't start off using piles of {{}} and such [09:31:11] oh, you mean you want a better wikitext? [09:31:20] Heh... ya [09:31:29] job security through language obscurity [09:31:34] The nice thing about new software, is you don't need to worry about backwards compatibility [09:32:16] yeah, except when your wiki engine becomes popular except that nobody wants to use it because the markup is not what they're used to [09:32:48] :/ Didn't say it would be completely different, heh... Still WikiText inspired [09:33:18] *Splarka sleeps [09:34:52] Though I prefer >> over :: [09:44:34] 03siebrand * r33221 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Add newline [09:48:13] hey ive got a problem. I have installed ajax rating system on my wiki, everythink works fine, now i ve changed to another server and nothing is working. Ive already changed the database datas [09:48:25] but it still dont work.. [09:51:37] :/ [10:07:28] Heh... Yet again I don't know if this is funny or just annoying... But I forgot the TitleNormalizer.php file at home again, yet bringing everything else with me... So I can't commit it into SVN... rofl [10:08:15] Simetrical: Has your helper functions for updaters.inc been created yet? [10:20:03] Dantman: You can also say, "My dog ate the TitleNormalizer.php". [10:20:12] Heh [10:31:21] Hello. I am having some template parser problems. The first list items do not get rendered as list items. What am i doing wrong? Please see http://www.danielmd.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page to see the problem. [10:31:32] 03dantman * r33222 10/branches/titlerewrite/phase3/includes/Title.php: [10:31:32] Lets start this off with something light. [10:31:32] * Change a little bit of documentation to reflect the removal of the underscores vs. spaces idea and refer to ui titles and db keys instead. [10:31:32] * Remove all code which sets mTextform and instead make getText() initialize it on demand. (For a temporary fallback, just use the old str_replace setup till the real code gets committed) [10:31:37] * Remove all use of mTextform in the code and replace it all with getText() to remove any errors resulting from mTextform not being set on initialization anymore. [10:32:51] 03(mod) #iferror should catch imagemap errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13620 (10derfinn) [10:33:39] anyone here? [10:34:27] Just ask your question if you need help... Someone will answer if they're here and know how to help [10:34:29] Yep. [10:35:07] dannyBlue: The problem is that list items must start on a new line, but starting and ending whitespace is stripped in tables. [10:35:42] hum... how do i fix it? [10:35:51] dannyBlue: See http://www.danielmd.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=110&oldid=100 [10:36:20] is a space character; it forces the template to not strip the whitespace before the list item. [10:36:56] hum i guess i will have to add that to the template. men, my template already has two hacks. [10:37:34] Thanks for your help Pathoschild (children of knowledge ;) [10:38:33] Welcome. :) [10:39:55] hum doesn't work, if i put it in the template [10:40:39] Nope, because template parameters strip whitespace too. :) [10:41:55] hum... i can't have people add that character everytime they need to output a list. [10:42:12] If you add a bullet to the end of the template, it might work. [10:42:20] ie, * {{{parameter}}} [10:42:31] It should work the same if they add their own bullet. [10:43:40] let me try that. [10:44:05] wait. well then every content would start with a list item and that is not the xase [10:44:08] case [10:45:03] Well, your choice of hacks is limited then. :) [10:45:47] addint * does not work [10:45:55] adding* [10:47:08] Hm. [10:48:02] 03(NEW) Even if "Add pages I create to my watchlist" is set, uploading an image does not automatically watch it. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13725 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User preferences; (matthew.flaschen) [10:51:18] 03(mod) Install more fonts (especially for Unicode) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8898 (10moyogo) [10:51:26] I can't believe how ambiguous the mediawiki parser is. Fisrt it uses pipes for formatting and for control flow. Now it does not define scope... dude!!! [10:53:16] The coolest part is that the parser is regex-based. :) [10:53:48] The problem is that it sort of just got stuff tacked on as we went along, with no particular standard or conventions. [10:55:10] it needs a serious rewrite, that's what it needs. I don't know what the heck am i going to do now... I need to fix this at the template level. [10:56:00] Are you volunteering for the rewrite? :) [10:56:25] no, but i hope someone under these programs GSoC or mediawiki scholorship does that. [10:56:34] *Pathoschild nods. [11:09:06] 03dantman * r33223 10/branches/titlerewrite/phase3/includes/Title.php: Bleh, wrong variable. $t -> $title [11:14:08] can i transclude a simple space? or will that get ripped also? [11:25:30] ? [11:26:04] does anyone know how to insert raw html into mediawiki [11:27:53] how can i create a new group? [11:28:08] does anyone know how to insert raw html into mediawiki [11:28:22] what kind of new group [11:29:01] i need a new group in mediawiki [11:29:07] !groups [11:29:07] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [11:29:47] a cool [11:29:49] thx [11:30:29] raw html someone, the $wgRawHtml = true; does not seem to be doing its thing [11:30:51] !mwbot html | stat [11:30:51] --mwbot-- stat: Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot, you can find all my source code at http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn [11:31:51] stat: See FAQ about http://fcjazzjuniorit.fi/wiki/index.php?title=Ohje:Uutisointi [11:32:15] Sorry, about How can I allow use of HTML tags? [11:32:18] 03(NEW) Improvements of GUI and messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13726 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken) [11:32:56] yeah, how do i use like [11:33:59] i don't understand the language the .fi wiki is in.. [11:34:29] stat: Read the MediaWiki english FAQ. [11:35:56] stat: if you are going to use html inside of a wiki, then why use a wiki? learn the wikimarkup, its not perfect, but there are advantages in using it. [11:37:31] i'm trying to embed like other objects into the wiki, google widgets and like [11:37:48] use extensions for that. [11:37:55] I've set $wgRawHtml as true, so i can have stuff like [11:37:56] [11:37:56] [11:37:56] <stat> Hello World Demonstration Document [11:37:56] <stat> [11:37:56] [11:37:58] [11:38:00]

[11:38:02] Hello, World! [11:38:04]

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[11:38:06] stat: Dont paste test to channel!!! [11:38:08] This is a minimal "hello world" HTML document. It demonstrates the [11:38:10] basic structure of an HTML file and anchors. [11:38:12]

[11:38:16] [11:38:18] [11:38:30] what why? [11:38:57] anyways Because nobocy wants to get flooded, and topic advices to use pastebin. [11:39:53] ok my bad [11:40:00] stat: Did you already read the advice in the link I gave you? [11:40:52] i don't speak finnish or whatever language that was in (not trying to be condescending or anything, just don't know it) [11:41:26] stat: It is not in finnish. [11:41:48] http://fcjazzjuniorit.fi/wiki/index.php?title=Ohje:Uutisointi [11:41:49] ? [11:42:02] stat: You did not read the line I posted next? [11:43:07] stat: Anyways, you can also try Extensions, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix search for google. [11:49:36] cheers [11:50:15] dude as a question, $wgRawHtml in localsettings is set to true, why is spam filter having an issue with ?? [11:52:10] tale: dude as a question, $wgRawHtml in localsettings is set to true, why is spam filter having an issue with :/ Because but i'm allowing html, why is it having an issue? [11:57:35] hi who speak german ? [12:01:18] German people? [12:09:47] hi [12:09:59] wer kann mir helfen [12:13:40] huhu [12:14:47] i can speak german [12:14:54] niemand if you don't state your problem [12:15:15] was hast du f�r ein problem? [12:17:10] . [12:17:31] also [12:17:46] wenn ich ein bild hochladen möchte denn erscheint: Das Hochladen von Dateien ist in Esoterik und Hexen deaktiviert. [12:17:54] wie deaktiviere ich es [12:18:02] localsettings [12:18:07] upload = true [12:18:08] ?? [12:18:37] 03(mod) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 +comment (10alefzet) [12:18:52] wie geht das ? [12:19:16] ja [12:19:21] geh in dein localsettings.php [12:19:25] jaa wie denn ? [12:19:30] weiter [12:19:31] ist das dein wiki? [12:19:35] ja [12:19:41] weiter [12:19:45] ja [12:19:49] dann suchst du upload [12:19:55] je nach wiki version unterschiedlich benannt [12:20:00] aber upload ist immer drin [12:20:04] dahinter m�sste = false stehen [12:20:11] das stezt du auf true [12:20:17] i'm having issues with secureHTML anyone here used it before? [12:22:17] i use it on my wiki [12:22:56] it kinda dies for me, i put it in, then the wiki shows up as a blank? [12:23:00] kann man wikimedia update ohne inhalte zu löschen. wenn ja wie geht das [12:24:12] must use the specialpage SecureHtml [12:25:29] baengo ?? [12:26:29] ja kannst du aber ist nicht einfach [12:26:53] wie geht das [12:27:17] keine ahnung hab ich selber noch nie gemacht [12:27:22] www.mediawiki.org [12:27:31] musst du dir die anleitung herraussuchen [12:28:07] wo soll das da sein [12:29:23] benutz die suche [12:29:29] it dies, it seems to work the first time but then i can't access www.mysite.com/wiki/ it just gives me a blank page [12:30:10] na toll [12:30:12] try to check it in another browser [12:30:28] w�rdest du hier auf englisch fragen w�rdest du sicher eine antwort bekommen [12:31:27] na und [12:31:34] du kannst mir auch helfen oder [12:31:47] nein, habe es ja selber noch nie geupdated [12:32:21] Is there a way to clear the delete and move logs? I would have thought deleteOldRevisions.php would have done that, but I'm still able to undelete. I'd really like to purge all that old stuff out at this point. [12:32:40] you mean like [http://sometwhere.com/ click here] ? [12:42:58] stat: No of the Google extensions in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix did what you need? [12:43:25] secure HTML is perfect, but its causing me issues [12:43:56] stat: You mean it is perfect, just does not work? [12:44:09] i get a blank page at www.mysite.com/wiki/ and it does not allow any edits [12:44:26] blank page usually means PHP errors. check your error log [12:44:37] how do i check my eroor log? [12:44:46] open it with a text editor or file viewer [12:45:14] where can i find this error log [12:45:25] ask your hosting provider [12:45:31] Hi. How can I change the sorting rules in categories? I know the hard way [[Category:NAME|SORT]] but I want to change the core code somehow [12:45:42] 03rotem * r33224 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Update. [12:47:26] 03(NEW) Deletion of user page removes the user creation entry in Recent Changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13727 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (chenzhengwei2002) [12:49:41] 03(mod) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 (10meno25wiki) [12:51:03] ahllo [12:51:05] hallo [12:51:57] someone here to help me? [12:53:09] just ask [12:53:26] !ask | Vollo [12:53:26] --mwbot-- Vollo: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [13:15:09] 03dantman * r33225 10/branches/titlerewrite/phase3/maintenance/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [13:15:09] Schema change: Add `page`.`page_title_ui`. [13:15:09] * Add the row in tables.sql [13:15:09] * New maintenance script populatePageTitleUi.php to populate the field. [13:15:09] * Have updaters.inc create the new field and also call to fill it. [13:45:35] 03(mod) Deletion of user page removes the user creation entry in Recent Changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13727 (10N/A) [13:49:01] 03(NEW) Formating Change when Section edited or whole page edited. . - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13728 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (huntsfromshadow) [13:56:57] 03siebrand * r33226 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (107 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-04-13 15:26 CEST) [14:03:29] 03dantman * r33227 10/branches/titlerewrite/phase3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) [14:03:29] Schema change: Convert User names from display form to key form. [14:03:29] This is because of a potential bug. Because the definition of getText is going [14:03:29] to be loosened to what the actual display form of a page is, not a space form of [14:03:30] the database key. It means that if someone moved User:Username to User:username [14:03:32] then the user with the name "Username" would no longer be able to login to the [14:03:34] wiki. [14:05:26] 03siebrand * r33228 10/trunk/extensions/ (44 files in 42 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-04-13 15:26 CEST) [14:06:50] Dantman, we now have an updatelog table, yes. [14:07:07] *Werdna waves [14:07:51] Is there a way to clear the delete and move logs? I would have thought deleteOldRevisions.php would have done that, but I'm still able to undelete. I'd really like to purge all that old stuff out at this point. [14:09:01] k4jcw, there's not good support for that. There may be a maintenance script somewhere, or an extension. [14:09:16] By design, MediaWiki is meant to keep all info forever. [14:09:21] Disk space is cheap, after all. [14:09:30] Backing up over DSL is not. [14:09:41] k4jcw, using rsync it is. [14:09:43] :) [14:09:59] Trying to copy the *whole* database everywhere is asking for trouble however much you prune it. [14:10:02] You trying backing up a 100MB file nightly. Effectively takes my DSL down for 2 hours. [14:10:08] Use rsync. [14:10:11] It won't copy the whole thing. [14:10:18] It will only copy changes. [14:10:41] I suppose I could. I used the backup procedure thats in one of the MediaWiki pages. [14:10:58] Probably written by someone whose wiki has four edits. [14:11:17] And yes, I do back up a database of a few gigabytes periodically to my home computer over cable modem. [14:11:39] TO you home computer shouldn't be a problem. FROM would be. [14:12:10]