[00:03:04] *Werdna tickles AaronSchulz [00:34:58] 03(NEW) Create Simple English Wikipedia mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13739 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (axel9891) [00:47:04] *AaronSchulz giggles [00:47:06] Werdna: moo? [00:47:14] what did I do now/ [00:47:30] were are my time dropdowns? XD [00:48:07] were't you doing those? [00:48:35] no [00:48:55] :( [01:00:16] 03(mod) Deletion of user page removes the user creation entry in Recent Changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13727 (10vinhtantran) [01:04:24] 03aaron * r33269 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: Don't delete logs from RC on page delete (bug 13727) [01:05:26] 03(FIXED) Deletion of user page removes the user creation entry in Recent Changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13727 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [01:08:12] 14(DUP) Account creation didn't appear on RecentChanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13719 +comment (10vinhtantran) [01:08:23] 03(mod) Deletion of user page removes the user creation entry in Recent Changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13727 (10vinhtantran) [01:09:07] *Werdna tickles AaronSchulz [01:09:15] oww [01:39:36] 03(mod) Improvements of GUI and messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13726 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [01:52:06] 03aaron * r33270 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (3 files): Some UI tweaks [02:16:33] 03(mod) Create Simple English Wikipedia mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13739 +shell (10Werdan7) [02:17:43] indeed [02:19:54] :P [02:20:41] 03aaron * r33271 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialRecentchangeslinked.php: Form tweaks [02:29:03] 03aaron * r33272 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialRecentchangeslinked.php: Gah, add a space [02:46:59] 03werdna * r33273 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuth.php: Don't initialise a new session per pageview for globally logged-in users. Just once will do :-) [02:47:22] brion: see above commit. [02:48:40] I downloaded mediawiki and stored itin a folder called "wiki" Its returning me a 500 eror and the error_logs say nothing, any ideas? [02:49:29] I find it highly unlikely your error logs really say nothing. [02:50:34] k4jcw, go ask them :P [02:51:34] You're using apache? [02:51:43] yessir [02:52:33] It would be quite surprising to see an apache configuration that's not writing error logs. [02:52:53] What distro is this? And is this a home install or something on a managed server? [02:53:06] home install (Im not the admin) [02:53:26] uhmm [02:53:32] i think...centos [02:55:22] You're looking in /var/log/apache/error_log then? [02:55:45] Or is it /var/log/httpd/error_log ? [02:55:47] doesnt exist [02:55:52] i checked all of ~ for error_log [02:56:00] It won't be in ~ [02:56:05] i know [02:56:12] but just to make sure [02:56:13] That's your user directory. It'll more likely be in /var/log [02:56:22] Try this: locate error_log [02:57:07] cant access [02:57:16] It also might be named something else, if someone has a domain set up for the web server. [02:58:06] Can you see any files in /etc/apache, /etc/apache2, or /etc/httpd? [03:01:48] brb, gotta bag the dogs foot. [03:02:27] *MZMcBride goes to look that up. [03:03:56] buzzm@buzzm.net [~]# ls /etc/httpd [03:03:56] /etc/httpd@ [03:05:10] ok. do a 'find /etc/httpd | xargs grep -si errorlog' (without the quotes). [03:06:27] 03(mod) Undelete page with invalid title at en.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13729 (10grahamwp) [03:07:10] nothing [03:07:53] bizarre. [03:09:06] Basically, at least as far as I know, without the error logs it's unlikely you're going to figure out what's wrong. [03:09:59] Normally you'd fine the error logs defined somewhere in there that look something like ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/www.foobar.com-error_log [03:10:24] And that would tell you where to look for the error logs. [03:11:15] yer [03:18:32] hmm what about chmoding th ething? I tried 777 on everything [03:22:35] oh..the latest doesnt have LocalSettings.php? [03:27:29] eh? It certainly does. [03:34:00] where is it located? [03:34:07] Not in the /config unless i need to move DefSettings [03:53:17] OK, so it's telling me to setup the wiki [03:53:26] Which file do I edit? The LocalSettings? [03:53:35] Cause it's bringing me to the /config folder.. [03:53:51] you don't edit [03:53:58] you open the wiki [03:54:07] and it should bring up an installer [03:54:29] well the wiki.domain.com is working fine [03:54:36] then when I click on the link to /config/index.php [03:54:44] it's brinign up the 500 :| [03:56:00] nice. [03:56:13] I know, score ;x [03:56:33] there's a script in the maintenance directory for doing it [03:56:52] 03shinjiman * r33274 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): [03:56:52] * Update Chinese translations [03:56:52] * Update Cantonese translations [03:56:52] * Update Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese translations [03:57:05] public_html/wiki/config/index.php" is writeable by group [03:57:22] hmm [03:57:26] how could I chmod that so it isnt? [03:58:37] hello all. anybody here feel up to answering some questions about using Apache's RewriteEngine with MW? [03:59:04] I successfully modified my .htaccess file so that I now have short URLs. [03:59:20] I have used the $wgNamespaceAliases array to rename a namespace. I would like this to be reflected in the URL that the user sees. As it is, typing in the alternate name just redirects to the original namespace in terms of the URL (so the $wgNamespaceAliases editing worked). [03:59:54] How can I use Apache rewrite rules (or any other way, for that matter) to cause the namespace to appear how I like in the URL? [04:00:17] Couldn't find Turck MMCache, eAccelerator, APC or XCache; cannot use these for object caching. [04:00:25] Anyone else having problems detecting eAccelerator? [04:01:17] current htaccess file is here: http://rafb.net/p/71uJzE44.html [04:11:46] any ideas? [04:27:06] How do I create an account from being a SysOP? [04:34:22] draginxx: If you want to give sysop rights to an account, WikiSysop can give them to users in Specialpages. [04:34:33] There is an item for user rights management. [04:34:54] Hmm [04:36:41] ahh thanks :) [04:37:02] Howdy folks. I have a bit of a pickle here, i need to do teh following expression {{ #expr: {{{width}}} - {{{iconsize}}} }} but that does not apear to work. I have looked into the VariablesExtension but i can't figure out how to pass the parameter into the variables. [04:37:42] tale, How easy is it to move my wiki from one domain to another? [04:38:22] draginxx: Why do you ask me? [04:38:49] I assumed you would know :P Since you're the only one thats helping in #mw heh [04:39:21] draginxx: If you pose your question to me only, others will not answer. [04:39:31] This is true [04:39:36] Better ask your question from the channel. [04:39:40] But watch ;) How easy is it to move my wiki from one domain to another? [04:40:24] draginxx: Can't say what is easy for you. Basically you do a backup as instructed in the backup manual, and restore the backups on the other host. [04:40:34] it's easy. backup your database, and then change your local file to point to the new database and user stuff. [04:40:59] Ahh [04:41:01] Alright, thanks =) [04:41:11] stuff will break but if you are careful it should be fairly easy [04:42:15] anyone has a clue for my problem? [04:44:11] i need this because stupid ie does not do fixed tables, so my wiki looks wierd on ie :/ [04:44:35] it loks fine on firefox and safari [04:44:44] but ie is beign the little bitch that it always is [04:45:27] HELP: i need to do teh following expression {{ #expr: {{{width}}} - {{{iconsize}}} }} but that does not appear to work. I have looked into the VariablesExtension but i can't figure out how to pass the parameter into the variables. [04:52:06] Is it possible to use wildcards to search the deletion log? [04:58:03] Mufka: No. [04:58:11] Not through MediaWiki at least. [04:58:17] MZMcBride: thanks [05:00:44] Finally think i found a way... [05:03:05] next time ill use divs, html markup and javascript for everything, it's the last time i work with the mediawiki api and this FUBAR parser. I have 3 extensions to deal with all the hacks to wikimarkup pipes and the parser stuff, plus a couple of templates. That is allot of boilerplate just to do some basic stuff. RANT OVER ;) [05:09:59] great fixed the width broke something else... jezzzzusssss [05:16:22] Question: The MediaWiki 1.12 configuration page says, "PHP 5.0.0 or higher is required. If PHP 5 is available only when PHP files have a .php5 extension, please navigate to index.php5 to continue installation." Being the web-newb that I am, I have no idea how to go about installing PHP5 on my web-hosted machine (where the Wiki is being set up). Help! [05:17:28] Thats a PHP question, not mediawiki. [05:17:34] But I might be able to help. [05:17:48] Is it your own server, or a shared server? [05:18:02] Soxred93: you're right, but I'm not sure where or how MediaWiki wants PHP to be installed, so I thought I'd start by asking here [05:18:15] It's a shared server, maintained by 1and1.com [05:18:15] Try installing it :) [05:18:43] But if I run the installer on my local (winxp) box, how will that install it onto the remote (web hosted) box? [05:19:37] Or is it simply that MediaWiki needs PHP5 installed on my local box just during install, but not on the server running the wiki? [05:20:34] Sorry for my ignorance, but I don't know if PHP is something I would install locally (like Java) or something that needs to be installed on the web server (like mySQL) [05:21:09] and so I'm not sure exactly how/where it is that MediaWiki is likely to need PHP installed in order to work correctly [05:21:44] Web server. [05:22:15] Ok, upload the files onto your server. [05:22:15] In your browser, go to index.php. [05:22:20] Soxred: thanks. Not sure how to do that exactly, since I only have FTP access to the web server filespace [05:22:26] okay.. hold on [05:24:03] When you say "upload the files onto your server", do you mean the PHP 5.2.5 Windows Binaries? or the PHP 5.2.5 installer? [05:24:16] Onto the www area. [05:24:25] The part that you can access from the web. [05:26:12] (Right, I can upload the PHP files to my /eiserloh/www folder on my web hosted filespace, which maps to the web filespace root, but I'm not sure WHICH PHP files to upload) [05:27:21] All. [05:27:34] Everything in the package gets uploaded. [05:27:49] The MediaWiki files. [05:28:03] Ah, I've already uploaded all the mediawiki files [05:28:59] Then go to the index.php page. [05:29:27] When I do, it says: "PHP 5.0.0 or higher is required. If PHP 5 is available only when PHP files have a .php5 extension, please navigate to index.php5 to continue installation. ABORTING. " [05:29:49] (I am viewing the URL http://wiki.MYDOMAIN.net/config/index.php) [05:29:59] Ah, so you don [05:30:03] 't have PHP5 installed. [05:30:16] Exactly. :-) [05:30:32] And I can't figure out how to install it, or where MediaWiki wants me to put it [05:31:22] 1and1.com appears to only offer PHP4, so there really isn't anything we can do. [05:31:24] Sorry. [05:31:31] ah, okay. [05:31:32] You'll have to contact them about it. [05:31:36] Thank you! [05:32:04] I believe there was an older version of MediaWiki that could run on PHP4... [05:32:39] 1.6 [05:32:43] Wait, hold on. [05:32:47] Try going ot index.php5 [05:33:52] Okay, then I get the MediaWiki installation setup page. I can type in all my information there for the web DB there, but then it won't connect [05:34:28] (I'll tell you the exact error in a moment) [05:34:47] Question: Been googling, trying to find a dynamic/animated gallery Extension/widget. Does anyone know of one? [05:34:55] But I tried a bunch of things to get that to work, before I realized that without PHP5, MediaWiki probably just wan't going to work [05:35:01] Have you made a mysql server? [05:35:14] I want to replace the static one that i have on http://www.danielmd.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page [05:35:18] You do have PHP5 installed, if you see that page. [05:35:29] and the index.php page doesn't say "click on index.php5" to run without php 5, so that didn't seem to work. [05:35:34] I'll give you instructions in a minute so you can use .php files again. [05:35:48] That's because it's site specific. [05:35:55] Yes, I created a mySQL database on the site, and entered all the info for the DB in the mediawiki installation setup screen at index.php5 [05:36:08] but it still said it wouldn't connect [05:36:10] Error? [05:36:24] Note: I did all of this before, successfully, a while back... but that was before PHP5 so there were no problems [05:36:27] Hold on [05:37:45] The error at the bottom of the MediaWiki 1.12.0 installation log-thingy is: "Adding ipb_anon_only field to table ipblocks... [snip] " failed with error code "Access denied for user: 'dbo175487026@%' to database 'db175487026' (db500.perfora.net)"." [05:38:08] Sure you entered the right password? [05:38:17] Even though those user and database names are definitely correct (I've done them three different times, copy-pasting as well as manual-typing) [05:38:54] What about the host name? [05:39:04] I don't use 1and1, so I don't know what it should be. [05:39:08] yes, because when I try a gibberish password, it gives a different error [05:39:15] The hostname is correct as well [05:39:38] db1.perfora.net? [05:39:45] in each case (hostname, username, password), I try using the same for two and making one of them gibberish, and for each of those (three) cases I get different errors from the one I'm getting [05:40:07] so I'm not getting the "unknown hostname" error, nor the "unknown username" error, nor the "bad password' error [05:40:13] db500.perfora.net [05:40:18] Try db1.perfora.net [05:40:51] I get "connection failed" for that host [05:40:59] Hmm. [05:41:14] but not for db500.perfora.net (which is what the 1and1 mySQL database summary lists) [05:41:32] Which tells me that db500 is correct, since I don't get the "connection failed" error for that [05:42:01] You've done all the stuff here? http://faq.1and1.com/scripting_languages_supported/mysql_database/3.html [05:42:25] I believe so, but I will go double-check all of it [05:42:30] thanks for your patient help [05:43:52] Yes, that's exactly what I did before [05:44:20] and the "complete information is displayed" (step 6, at the bottom of that page) is where I'm getting the hostname, dbname, and dbhostname from [05:44:22] and passwd [05:45:05] Hmm...it's hard to do this without knowing your exact configuration. [05:45:42] It's pretty simple, I can tell you all the steps I did [05:46:03] The problem is that I don't know how 1and1 works. [05:46:10] 1. Create a new folder on my web hosting filespace (called /wiki) via ftp [05:46:30] Yes. [05:46:36] I agree... but everything that had to do with 1and1 seemed really straightforward, like there wasn't any variance [05:46:45] 2. Downloaded the MEdiaWiki 1.12.0 files [05:47:00] 3. Uploaded a complete copy of that download to the /wiki folder on the web server [05:47:01] Those online servers are always harder to install on, IMhO. [05:47:05] Yes. [05:47:12] Yes. [05:47:30] 4. Went to 1and1 admin control panel, picked "create new mySQL database" (the only one I have) [05:47:59] 5. Followed essentially those directions you just pointed out, by going to the database admin page, and viewing info for the new mySQL database [05:48:28] 6. Went to http://wiki.MYDOMAIN.com/config, clicked the link to index.php [05:48:31] Did you just set it up less than three hours ago? [05:49:00] The database I set up around 3pm today when I was first trying to do all this [05:49:05] and it's been up ever since [05:49:14] What time zone/ [05:49:17] the MediaWiki files I've since wiped and re-uploaded, but the database is still up there [05:49:22] sorry, it was 9 hours ago [05:49:27] CDT [05:49:29] Hmm. [05:49:50] And it only took 1and1 about 5 minutes to report the DB as being "ready" [05:49:56] and I did wait for that [05:50:04] Try to access phpmyadmin [05:50:11] unclesquirrel: Have you asked your webhotel support staff how to install Mediawiki? [05:50:46] No, since everything relating to the web hosting part seemed really straightforward, nothing to "get wrong", whereas the MediaWiki installation instructions were more complicated [05:51:21] so I was viewing this as being more of a mediawiki problem, and I knew that people here would have (likely) gone through a simliar process to what I'm trying to do (namely, install MediaWiki). They might not have. [05:51:26] Unclesquirrel, try to access phpmyadmin. http://faq.1and1.com/scripting_languages_supported/mysql_database/6.html [05:51:50] okay, one moment [05:52:42] okay, I have the phpmyadmin page for the DB open [05:53:11] So you got access? [05:53:23] Yes [05:53:44] (though I have no idea what I'm looking at... I'm a C++ programmer, not a web guy. :-) [05:54:02] (and know nothing about databases/mySQL) [05:54:15] A. I would advise you learn, it's fun! [05:54:24] :-) [05:54:35] B. Go back the the page that has the button to the phpmyadmin [05:54:53] The one that looks like number 6 here: http://faq.1and1.com/scripting_languages_supported/mysql_database/3.html [05:54:59] ok [05:55:09] Is that the info you are typing up? [05:55:15] yes [05:55:20] I [05:55:26] I'm out of ideas. [05:55:58] Honestly, MediaWiki 1.12 says it requires PHP5... And 1and1 doesn't support PHP5. So maybe it just simply won't work. [05:56:09] And I should go back to the old PHP4-based MediaWiki version(s) [05:56:11] Yes it does support php5. [05:56:14] oh [05:56:20] http://faq.1and1.com/scripting_languages_supported/php/9.html [05:56:48] so should I rename *.php in my MediaWiki install folder to *.php5? [05:57:01] No. [05:57:05] (based on what that page says, first sentence) [05:57:06] ok [05:57:15] "Create a .htaccess file and place the following line AddType x-mapp-php5 .php in it." [05:57:44] Ah, okay, that'll take a minute [05:57:53] you know how to do that? [05:57:55] "AddType x-mapp-php5 .php" [05:58:27] sure, I'll create a local text file named that, add that one line, upload it to the root of the wiki (and probably also to the ultimate root) of my web filespace, yeah? [05:58:42] Yeah. [05:58:48] one moment [06:01:11] okay, done. I put three copies of .htaccess (with that one line in them), in the true root, the web root, and the wiki root folders of my web filespace (just to be sure) [06:01:38] Now go to config/index.php [06:01:53] BRILLIANT [06:01:57] no more PHP5 error [06:02:06] Good. [06:02:07] hold on, trying again to launch the MediaWiki [06:02:12] Try to install again [06:02:23] typing in install details, hold on... [06:03:38] Okay, so everything seems to have worked just as before, where at the end of the MediaWiki install log section it says " failed with error code "Access denied for user: 'dbo175487026@%' to database 'db175487026' (db500.perfora.net)". [06:04:08] Hmm, I'm out of ideas. [06:04:18] This sounds to be a hosting error. [06:04:25] to take up with 1and1. [06:04:27] Note that the username I typed in (that 1and1's website said to use for the DB) was actually "dbo175487026", not dbo175487026@%" - the MediaWiki install must have added the "@%" [06:04:46] Here's a suggestion, try to install phpbb or wordpress. [06:04:48] though someone I was talking to before when I got to this point (but without the PHP5) said the @% means "at any host" [06:05:26] okay, is phpbb something I install locally on my notebook, or a web server thing I install in my web server filespace? [06:05:36] Same way as MediaWiki. [06:05:40] okay, thanks [06:05:42] It's php+mysql [06:05:45] I really appreciate all your help [06:05:50] Ah [06:05:55] Tell me what error you get. [06:06:15] So then I would essentially be creating/uploading my own mySQL database (instead of 1and1's) and try to use that to serve the Wiki? [06:06:33] Yes. [06:07:00] Hi, I tried to list an extension and it shows up in the matrix as "WARNING: failed to fetch" - does anyone know what might cause that? [06:07:52] kupopo: Explain more what you do and where. [06:08:37] Soxred: I'll be back in a few [06:08:54] I'm going now, unclesquirrel. [06:09:10] Send me a memo when you are done. [06:09:18] thanks again [06:09:27] Use /msg MemoServ SEND Soxred93 [06:09:28] tale: I created a page Extension:ImgLink on MediaWiki and when the Extension Matrix page repopulated, it had an error for my extension - I've tried comparing with other extensions that do and don't have errors but I can't figure out what's wrong. [06:10:01] Sox: Thanks [06:10:53] kupopo: You got a Warning, not an error. No info about what it could not fetch? [06:12:02] tale: nothing at all - it's effectively an error in that it doesn't actually list any information. The line instead says only "WARNING: failed to fetch Extension:ImgLink" [06:15:26] Aha - a little more detective work: there are four other extensions with the same message, and all were posted on or after April 9, which is the last date of any other extension in the list. [06:16:12] kupopo: That seems like a smoking gun. [06:16:37] Better find out who maintains the extension matrix web page and ask him/her what is up. [06:16:46] tale: I'm on it - thanks! [06:35:22] hey, how can I make a url which contains a variable (which has a string of more than one word seperated spaces) behave as if the variable is separated by "_"s? [06:35:24] How do I make a strikeline or a grey font color in iki? [06:35:29] s/iki/wiki [06:36:17] I think text should do it. or text: draginxx [06:37:55] can anyone answer my questiong? [06:38:18] Sorry mate, I have no idea with wiki lol [06:39:57] Nicolas: what is the variable used for? [06:40:26] it contains a name of something: which can be more than one word long. [06:40:45] yes, but used for what? title=? javascript? other? [06:40:57] wiki [06:41:13] Ohh. [06:41:34] Have you tried {{urlencode:}} ? [06:41:58] ya, but that puts a "+" instead of _ [06:42:13] well, but what is the URL *used* for? [06:42:25] what are you linking to? [06:42:32] http://shaiya.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Upload&wpDestFile=Equipment+Weapon+Silver%26nbsp%3BAxe.jpg [06:42:34] wiki is fine with + or _ [06:42:48] (as long as you use the scriptpath and not articlepath) [06:43:50] http://shaiya.wikia.com/wiki/User:Nicolasjager/List_of_Weapons/One_Handed_Axe has the failious links. [06:44:04] how do I make it so that with a template, the page that includes the template will include a certain category, but the template page itself isn't put into the category? [06:44:48] put [[Category:CategoryName]] Rorix [06:45:07] ok, thanks [06:45:12] np [06:47:59] AaronSchulz: why does SpecialPage::setGroup() want an object that has member variable mName... also the documentation is wrong because it doesn't accept anything else [06:50:19] Nicolas: well, seems all fine except the nbsp, just omit that if you can [06:51:59] Splarka, that's the problem. I can't put a _ in it's place nor skip it... only conver to + or &nsbp; [06:52:20] and + and _ are not treated the same: http://shaiya.wikia.com/wiki/User:Nicolasjager/Practice_Coding#URLS [06:55:02] wtf, isn't SpecialPage autloaded? [06:56:21] Nic: no, they aren't, but they both work in the scriptpath (assuming wikia hasn't screwed that up) [06:56:52] but why do you have an nbsp in there anyway? [06:57:26] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Golf_course http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Golf+course http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Golf%20course [07:00:06] also: http://en.wikipedia.org/w//index.php?title=Special:Upload&wpDestFile=Foo+bar_baz%20Baf.jpg works fine for me... it prefills the box with "Foo bar_baz Baf.jpg" which will be normalized to "Foo_bar_baz_Baf.jpg" in the path and "Foo bar baz Baf.jpg" in the internal references to the page. [[Image:Foo bar baz Baf.jpg]] and [[Image:Foo_bar_baz_Baf.jpg]] would both work to call it [07:03:07] Splarka it has   because I put wpDestFile={{urlencode:Equipment Weapon {{{name|NAMEGOESHERE}}}.jpg}} as part of the url [07:03:19] Hello , it is possible to get the LDAP Authentication extension to use a username and password when checking for groups and users? [07:03:49] so someone is passing nbsp as a template parameter? [07:07:09] there's a variable name, which for this example I'll say has the string "Silver Axe" But I can't just put "Silver Axe" in the url or it will interpret Silver as the end of that url, and Axe and whatever follows as the text to display for the url [07:08:15] ahh [07:08:35] I don't want to put "Silver+Axe" because the image call code calls for Silver_Axe.jpg [07:09:10] well, that would encode the + unless that was outside the urlencode [07:10:06] but using nbsp is not the answer [07:10:19] {{localurl: Silver Axe}} returned /wiki/Siver_Axe [07:11:47] and then I used tittleparts: {{#titleparts: {{localurl: Silver Axe}}|1|3}} but that returned "Silver Axe" instead of "Silver_Axe" [07:12:30] that titleparts call was within the urlencode. [07:13:02] *Splarka shrugs [07:13:13] well, it works without nbsp, what is the prob? [07:13:16] &wpDestFile=Foo_bar_{{urlencode:{{{name|NAME Here}}}}}.jpg [07:13:16] Hello, it is possible to get the LDAP Authentication extension to use a username and password when checking for groups and users? [07:13:24] {{template|name=foo bar}} [07:13:56] sure, it becomes a + in the URL, and in the image upload form it shows as a space instead of underscore [07:13:59] but that doesn't matter [07:14:02] same diff in the end [07:14:41] 03nikerabbit * r33275 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialSpecialpages.php: * Tweak balancing [07:15:22] for example, on that example, the URL is http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Foo_bar_foo_bar.gif and the title is

Image:Foo bar foo bar.gif

[07:15:40] + and _ are the same in index.php URLs and upload forms [07:16:02] (well, " " and "_" in upload forms, "+" and "_" in URLs) [07:16:12] why do you need an nsbp? [07:18:22] Splarka, I need a url containing a space to be read as containing a "_" I don't need   or "%C2%A0" or "+" [07:19:11] well, for what? in the example you gave, the space is converted to a plus, and there is no difference to the upload form [07:30:40] Hello everyone [07:30:48] we seem to have been banned from wikimedia api [07:31:28] err, we = wikiwix.com [07:31:37] would anyone have information about it ? [07:33:13] what were you doing to it? [07:33:44] We used it to keep up to date with recent changes [07:34:16] <_wooz> lo [07:34:25] well i'm sure if you were querying it a lot you'd get the banstick [07:35:13] probably be better to ask in ##wikimedia-tech [07:35:19] err #wikimedia-tech [07:35:44] mmm, ok thanks [07:46:07] 03siebrand * r33276 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (301 files in 7 dirs): [07:46:07] * remove end of line whitespace [07:46:07] * remove empty lines at end of file [07:46:07] * remove "?>" where still present [07:48:46] wow what a horrible language when you can get away with no ending delimiter [07:48:48] ;) [07:51:37] OverlordQ: like our natural language? :o [07:54:11] Hello, it is possible to get the LDAP Authentication extension to use a username and password when checking for groups and users? [07:54:15] 03(mod) $wgAllowExternalImagesFrom is to limiting, extend it to allow multiple domains - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12530 (1065s.mg) [09:39:32] 03(mod) Improvements of GUI and messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13726 (10pbirken) [10:22:24] 03(mod) Create additional crucial namespaces on [als] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13578 +comment (10Gerard.meijssen) [10:40:28] 03(mod) Remove W3C CSS errors from Monobook - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13678 (1065s.mg) [10:47:29] 03(mod) Request Category Count feature - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13735 (1065s.mg) [10:47:33] why isn't FCKeditor by Wikia/FCKEditor on svn? [10:50:22] 03(mod) New special page for most wanted images - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13702 (1065s.mg) [10:51:12] 03(mod) Hooks request after/before portlets - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13676 (1065s.mg) [10:53:33] low incentive release, busy schedules, and limited access to their own repository [10:53:55] I'll put it on there if necessary. [10:54:00] It's a damn good piece of software [10:54:04] no, I mean [10:54:17] limited access to their source, because the wikia repository is closed access [10:54:58] pokle JSharp maybe [11:02:07] *Werdna would really, really like to see that on wikimedia. [11:02:25] really? I never thought it worked right [11:02:36] well, the wikia version is pretty impressive [11:02:54] I mean, you'd either have to make a javascript parser with action=parse or hit the API every time you hit a tag [11:03:05] er, or something [11:03:16] *Splarka moves action=parse after the or [11:03:21] does someone here uses the jquery javascript lib? [11:04:54] the problem is, werd, it is very hard to replicate how the parser will react to a given piece of text, based on the subversion, even with a list of installed extensions, parser hooks, and such (things like [[image:]] and {{#ifexist:}} and would require periodic api calls to render at all, too) [11:05:10] at least, that is what always made me consider the task impossible to finalize ^_^ [11:05:25] *Splarka ponders [11:07:58] Werdna: would it be possible to have the parser create a standaline functional javascript version of itself based on "normal" extensions and hooks, that the API could utilize? I mean, obviously it wouldn't output a version of, say capable of generating the image, but it could output \[.\n]*?\<\/timeline\> as a regex with a condition like "hit api action=parse".. and things that it could do live, like \'\'.*?\'\' -> $1 [11:08:02] *Splarka grins [11:08:32] ew. [11:08:36] you want to write a parser in js? [11:08:43] or some subset thereof? [11:08:50] well, no... hmm, how to describe [11:09:08] the real parser, outputting a "list of parser elements to watch for" thing [11:09:57] ah. [11:10:56] (and possibly some crude parser code that the js could utilize live, like most static wikicode... wikitables, markup, lists, links (wouldn't be red/blue'd live, just linked), etc) [11:11:18] well, I guess it's possible. [11:11:38] and things like {{#ifexist:}} would not branch, just have a placeholder , but things like {{PAGENAME}} could update, predictable in JS [11:11:43] mm [11:13:15] *Splarka hides the Sharp bait [11:13:42] *JSharp grins [11:14:01] some things would be pretty hard to duplicate though, if not impossible.. like hooks randomly messing with the page text, or interrupting edits, like spam blacklist [11:15:26] *JSharp nods [11:15:36] wikitext is more like a programming language than a markup language [11:15:43] well, with stringfunctions X_X [11:15:44] it's output is indeterminate [11:15:58] based on system state [11:17:27] well even without.. transclusion based on variables is an example [11:17:44] transclusions even [11:17:55] what would wikiwyg do with {{foo}}? [11:18:02] other than hit the api [11:18:33] mmm, same thing with interwiki links [11:19:26] you can call a list of those via the API [11:19:37] so those are predictable (as are interlang) [11:20:13] but, even [[foo]] would be best to have as purple until such time as the editor wanted to check for blue/redness [11:20:24] hmm, yeah [11:22:30] *Splarka pokles Werdy [11:23:20] My only requirement for it, is that if it gets used, it doesn't make wikitext like frontpage makes html :/ [11:23:21] [11:23:32] or dreamweaver even [11:23:37] *JSharp shudders [11:26:52] It can't be as bad as it is now [11:27:01] my girlfriend doesn't edit because it looks too scary. [11:28:19] never under estimate the power of wysiwyg editors to make *so-so* markup look absolutely scary [11:28:28] heh [12:15:18] hi, i need some help on the acl plugin, i dont get the categories to work. does anybody have an example conf for restricting guest in special categories? [12:24:33] hi, im working on the SpecialListUser.php, and my link "view (previous 20) (next 20)" is fuckin up. the link, instead of having the right offset value, has the username of the first user of the list... ?! [12:24:46] as an offset [12:25:04] and so obviously it fucks up the query on the db and show a db error [12:25:40] so this is linked to the function getNavigationBar from Pager.php [12:25:47] line 409 [12:36:34] 03aaron * r33277 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialPage.php: Fix doc [12:38:45] AaronSchulz: any hope of getting better interface too? [12:45:16] 03(mod) Improvements of GUI and messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13726 (10JSchulz_4587) [12:45:43] 03(mod) Null revisions do not trigger autoflagging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13733 summary (10JSchulz_4587) [12:53:33] 03gri6507 * r33278 10/trunk/extensions/WhiteList/ (3 files): [12:53:33] v0.8.6 [12:53:33] * Fixed a minor bug in the text that appears on review of submission of new whitelisted pages [12:53:33] * Made the requirement for UsageStatistics extension optional with $wgWhitelistUsePrettyCalendar variable [12:53:34] * Better error checking for the (optionally) required UsageStatistics extension [12:53:38] * Fixed a bug in whitelist access to pages defined with a leading colon [12:56:20] 03aaron * r33279 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Tweak message [13:01:56] 14(WFM) Request Category Count feature - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13735 +comment (10vasilvv) [13:17:58] *Werdna waves [13:27:43] 03catrope * r33280 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiLogin.php): API: action=login now returns the correct waiting time in the details property [13:31:57] hi, i need some help on the acl plugin, i dont get the categories to work. does anybody have an example conf for restricting guest in special categories? [13:33:41] 03(mod) Extension to provide aggregate page view statistics from Squid access logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10633 +comment (10vacuum) [13:36:46] 03(mod) Request Category Count feature - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13735 (10jutiphan) [13:39:45] 03siebrand * r33281 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesPl.php: [13:39:45] Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki [13:39:45] * Update special pages/skins/magic for Polish [14:11:00] can anyone help me with an issue? [14:11:12] !ask | Nicolas [14:11:12] --mwbot-- Nicolas: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [14:11:41] I need to get a link containing " " to be interpreted as containing "_" [14:13:42] Try {{displaytitle}}? [14:16:19] is anyone here? [14:16:24] I need a developer! [14:17:26] 03raymond * r33282 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Add colons for consistency with other input fields. [14:19:09] Werdna, and you said I was playing domas! look at you :P [14:19:19] :P [14:19:47] Werdna: yes? why do you need him? [14:19:57] you know, developers are very busy [14:20:10] VasilievVV: I'm being silly [14:20:33] So if you spend their time for some nonsense, they may kill you [14:28:06] 03(mod) Malayalam wiki need Import feature - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13734 (10sadik.khalid) [14:29:39] VasievVV {{DISPLAYTITLE}} didn't work for me. [14:31:18] Nicolas: so, what do you want? Change the title of the page? [14:31:46] no, not the title, interpret the url differently [14:32:10] So " " and "_" are different symbols? [14:34:40] ya, I want http://shaiya.wikia.com/wiki/User:Data/Weapon/Silver%C2%A0Axe/Acquisition_Info to link be http://shaiya.wikia.com/wiki/User:Data/Weapon/Silve_Axe/Acquisition_Info instead. [14:35:19] to be* [14:36:35] the code it's currently using is at http://shaiya.wikia.com/wiki/User:Nicolasjager/Acquisition_Info/Equipment [14:39:18] 03(NEW) Disable local file uploads at vo.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13740 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (malafaya) [14:41:06] 03(mod) Disable local file uploads at vo.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13740 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [14:46:05] Hi there [14:46:59] can anyone explain me what a Parser Function Extension is? [14:46:59] !ask | asga [14:46:59] --mwbot-- asga: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [14:47:24] i didn't get that template stuff [14:47:27] hm tale? [14:47:40] telling me that just because i said "hi there" ? [14:47:40] oO [14:48:16] asga: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Parser_function_extensions [14:48:17] !parserfunctions | asga [14:48:17] --mwbot-- asga: "Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!). For help using parser functions, please see . For details about the extension, see . [14:50:06] yes i read that [14:50:07] so [14:50:12] it is similar to tag extensions [14:50:29] just that the name has to be a magic word? [14:51:13] and i use it like {#funcname:param1 | param2 | ...} [14:51:27] is that right? [14:51:43] {{#funcname:param1| [14:51:58] erm yes [14:52:01] you are right [14:52:08] two braces [14:52:14] asga, if you're going to write your own, i recommend you use the {{#group:function|param1|param2}} notation [14:52:29] zocky: i am not going to write my own [14:52:35] ah, ok then [14:52:42] i am currently writing a term paper about mediawiki [14:52:51] and i need to explain the possible extension points [14:53:06] but i don't really get the difference between tag extensions and parser functions [14:53:23] there's no difference, logically [14:53:36] okay [14:53:49] it's just that because of the way the parser works, the tag extensions get parsed later than functions and templates [14:54:13] ah okay [14:54:14] so you can't do ... {{{1}}} ... [14:54:30] that's why we have the {{#tag:math|{{{1}}}}} notation [14:54:43] what does that do? [14:55:07] the same as but arguments, functions, and templates inside it get parsed [14:57:14] okay [14:57:17] thanks [14:57:21] that helped me alot [14:58:12] 03rotem * r33283 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update. [15:37:02] 03millosh * r33284 10/trunk/tools/planet/sr/config.ini: first version [15:42:57] 03millosh * r33285 10/trunk/tools/planet/sr/config.ini: better version [15:48:39] 03aaron * r33286 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Add title here too [15:49:30] 03millosh * r33287 10/trunk/tools/planet/sr/config.ini: more better... [15:49:38] *Werdna aarons aaron [15:49:42] AaronSchulz: when do you sleep? [15:49:51] hi jesse [15:50:33] (1-3)am-8:30 ;) [15:50:47] longer on the weekends [15:51:01] hehe [15:51:05] what timezone? [15:53:35] AaronSchulz: also,when does brion usually sign on? My logs say in 10-20 min [15:53:54] ah, Ohio Statae [15:55:02] eastern [15:55:14] I know what timezone OH is in [15:55:27] I lived there for 2 months in recent memory :) [15:57:51] *Jack_Phoenix waves to ialex :-) [15:58:02] hey Jack_Phoenix ;) [15:58:07] rar [16:02:29] 03raymond * r33288 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesKk_arab.php MessagesKk_cyrl.php MessagesKk_latn.php): [16:02:29] Localisation updates Kazakh [16:02:29] Bug 12145, patch by AlefZet [16:02:44] 03(FIXED) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [16:04:33] 03aaron * r33289 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialPage.php: Allow string names [16:09:42] 03(mod) Odd personal links line in Mediazilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13737 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [16:15:03] hey there brion :-) got a moment? [16:16:09] never [16:16:10] what's up? [16:16:14] 03ialex * r33290 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Article.php): (bug 13736) Don't show MediaWiki:Anontalkpagetext on non-existant IP addresses [16:16:52] just wanted to ask about my svn account request, seeing as you made a couple new accounts recently...I sent my mail from wikia.jack@gmail.com to you on 25th of March -- any idea where it's forgotten? :) [16:17:02] 03(FIXED) MediaWiki:Anontalkpagetext appears on non-existant IP addresses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13736 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [16:18:13] 03(NEW) Request mailing list creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13741 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (scream) [16:18:56] Jack_Phoenix: not familiar offhand. can you resend with description of the project you're working on? [16:19:09] is there a way to do something like [16:19:13] * bullet point [16:19:18] brion: sure thing - nothing specific really, misc. bugfixes and the like :-) [16:19:22] *Jack_Phoenix goes to resend it [16:19:26] continuous code list [16:19:26] continuous code list [16:19:45] i.e. an indented code block that fits nicely into the bulleted list [16:22:10] brion: done \o/ [16:22:26] RichiH, yes, fix the css [16:22:43] zocky: 'yay' [16:22:45] RichiH, for some reason, the indent for : is larger than that for * in some css file somewhere [16:23:16] zocky: even with :, you do not get nicely formatted blocks [16:23:29] RichiH: you could use the
syntax [16:23:32] then it's easy. [16:23:35] RichiH, the other way is
[16:23:38] best i can come up with is :
foo
[16:23:42] :
bar
[16:23:47] ah, you want pre [16:23:49] which creates two blocks [16:24:11] than you can probably do
  • 
    [16:24:15] 	
[16:24:17] and
foo\nbar
does not work [16:24:32] i don't think mediawiki acknowledges the existence of [16:24:43] rather hackish and evil :/ [16:25:13] does so too [16:25:38] Werdna, it does? last time I checked, it gave me </li> [16:25:49] it doesn't love you [16:26:27] bring a dead squirrel to a river bend close to an old oak tree, with a salamander tied around your neck, at midnight during a full moon [16:26:56] seems to work now [16:27:08] did that get fixed in the new preprocessor or what? [16:28:00] no, it's because you did the restorative ritual. [16:28:05] as detailed above. [16:31:03] Jack_Phoenix: thx, i'll poke at it in a bit [16:31:14] cool, thank *you* :D [16:32:23] 03yaron * r33291 10/trunk/extensions/DataTransfer/includes/DT_GlobalFunctions.php: [16:32:23] Cleaned up slightly, and fixed language-value handling for MediaWiki versions [16:32:23] before 1.11 [16:32:47] RichiH: did you get that sorted? [16:33:18] 03yaron * r33292 10/trunk/extensions/DataTransfer/INSTALL: New version: 0.1.5 [16:33:30] Werdna: cow-orker refuses to use ul/li [16:33:37] ... [16:33:44] afaik, that's the best way to do it. [16:39:44] 03erik * r33293 10/trunk/tools/planet/en/config.ini: +Pete Forsyth [16:41:17] There is an online media wiki I'd like to capture for offline viewing. Is there a way to copy a wiki locallly, with images, etc? [16:42:03] 03siebrand * r33294 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (95 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-04-14 16:46 CEST) [16:42:05] 03ialex * r33295 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LinkCache.php: Tweaks: remove call to empty function LinkCache::clearLink() and don't check if $id is an integer as it is set to null just before that. [16:43:27] tom: i dont know about images but oyu can try the API or special:export [16:44:12] also you can crawl the page for yourself using wget or httrack that should do it as well [16:47:24] timetrek: thanks -- looking at them now [16:48:44] 03siebrand * r33296 10/trunk/extensions/ (78 files in 78 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-04-14 16:46 CEST) [16:48:53] timetrek: how does special:export work? [16:50:04] you specify the names of pages you want, and than it gives you the xml output which you can import into your wiki. HOwever if all you want to do is look at pages it might be an overkill [16:50:46] timetrek: I'd like to just cache the whole thing. I have a ubuntu VM running on my local box. [16:51:53] timetrek: so I was thinking I could just dump media wiki on it and make a local mirror. I'm going to be away from teh internet for a bit and it'd be nice to have the whole thing. [16:52:54] well you can write a script to do wget for you from special:export or do it manually. [16:53:30] timetrek: thanks :-) I think I figured out how special:export works. That'll do images too, huh? [16:53:37] nope [16:53:49] i havent figured that part yet [16:56:29] <|Lee|> If someone defaces a wiki, is there a way to restore the page to what it was before it was defaced if you aren't an administrator? [17:00:43] <|Lee|> Nevermind, found the wiki page for it, thanks anyway. [17:01:26] sleepime [17:01:27] nn [17:03:13] what about using special:import? Would that import pages from a remote wiki with images and all? [17:04:35] gah, I'm so stupid... urlencode wasn't working right, cause I had | name=Silver Axe . instead of | name=Silver Axe [17:04:37] <|Lee|> Jump to: navigation, search [17:04:37] <|Lee|> The action you have requested is limited to users in the group Sysops. [17:04:39] <|Lee|> Bleh. [17:13:51] what's the smallest em size possible for font? [17:15:45] hello [17:15:55] hi Nikerabbit [17:23:05] 03tlaqua * r33297 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionScores/ (3 files): [17:23:05] * v1.8 [17:23:05] * Removed most custom CSS classes [17:23:05] * Now uses .even and .odd CSS classes from sortable JS voodoo when the sortable class is present [17:23:05] * Removed .css file - instead force custom definition in MediaWiki:Common.css [17:35:22] How do I make it so normal users or non-logged users can't edit/create/delete pages? (Basically, only SysOP can) [17:36:36] search the MW faq [17:37:26] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights [17:43:20] 03tlaqua * r33298 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionScores/ContributionScores_body.php: * Fixed issue w/ styling when nosort is present [17:45:04] 03ialex * r33299 10/trunk/phase3/includes/AjaxFunctions.php: Remove unused "@package MediaWiki" [17:45:12] 03raymond * r33300 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Localisation updates German [17:45:47] MONK3000, would I change the permissions in my LocalSettings or Default Settings? :S [17:45:57] draginxx: always localsettings [17:46:08] Ahh alright, thanks :) [17:54:26] is there a global setting to change "&redirect=no" to "&redirect=yes"? [17:54:52] I'm been reading the manual for LocalSettings.php but haven't found anything [17:55:23] the $wgRedirectScript variable does not mention anything about it [17:56:10] blue_asterisk: nope [17:56:14] and no, that's unrelated [17:56:27] that's for the action drop-down in the Nostalgia skin [17:56:58] hmm [17:58:42] I notice when I change the "&redirect=no" part of the URL of a redirect page from "no" to "yes" it redirects; I'd like it to redirect automatically [17:59:11] only when I change it to "yes" does it redirect [17:59:53] &redirect=no is added for cases where you do not want to redirect [18:00:00] so..... that makes no sense :) [18:00:33] where is the appending "&redirect=no" coming from? [18:01:38] (grepping is not very useful here) [18:01:44] 03aaron * r33301 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Add flaggedrevs_promote table for tracking [18:03:14] 03aaron * r33302 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Fix typo [18:03:17] hmm [18:04:39] *blue_asterisk getting somewhere with grepping [18:04:54] from the various places that link to a redirect page *without wanting to redirect* [18:08:18] on wikipedia I understand that there are pages that shouldn't automatically redirect but on my installation of mw it makes sense [18:09:01] no, it doesn't [18:09:10] what you are requesting *never* makes sense [18:09:13] yeah, that makes no sense :) [18:09:20] why? [18:09:32] because redirect=no is added to links ONLY WHEN THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO REDIRECT [18:09:44] BECAUSE THE LINK EXISTS FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF POINTING AT THE ACTUAL REDIRECT PAGE, NOT THE TARGET [18:09:53] THUS THE PARAMETER IS ADDED [18:10:01] so disregarding it would just break things [18:10:04] which would make no sense [18:10:12] *ialex gives a coffee to brion [18:10:54] mmmm [18:12:12] I'm listening.. but what's the purpose of pointing to an intermediate redirect page? [18:12:24] so you can edit it, for one [18:12:28] AaronSchulz: you about? [18:12:28] so you can see its history [18:12:32] hmm [18:12:53] i noticed some usage of "title='{$blah}'" in a lot of places, where $blah is wfMsgHtml() [18:13:02] if the message contains single-quotes, i believe that's gonna break [18:13:05] oh goodness am i looking forward to being resolved (the patch was committed last week) [18:13:41] flyingparchment: I can still edit the page [18:13:50] edit the redirect, not the page [18:13:54] brick_ijigg: may not have gone live yet [18:14:00] brion: what wfmsg should it use? [18:14:04] i'm still reviewing code [18:14:12] AaronSchulz: wfMsgHtml() is fine; just use double-quotes on your attributes [18:14:21] does somebody have any idea what is causing this Mediawiki error: http://www.vtk.ugent.be/wvs/wiki/index.php/ (this is an _old_ mediawiki install) [18:14:27] htmlspecialchars() by default escapes " but not ' [18:14:51] brion, it definitely hasn't, based on my test of http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?prop=langlinks|categories&redirects&format=xml&action=query&titles=California,%20United%20States [18:15:01] flyingparchment: I can still edit the page and the redirect [18:15:06] blue_asterisk: how? [18:15:09] brick_ijigg: thanks, i'll keep that url to recheck after i've synced [18:15:16] awesome brion, thank you [18:15:36] flyingparchment: just change the title parameter and append "&action=edit"? [18:15:46] 03(mod) Extension to provide aggregate page view statistics from Squid access logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10633 (10vacuum) [18:15:58] blue_asterisk: you want to remove redirect=no to force people to edit the URL instead of doing it the way every other mediawiki works? [18:15:59] 03aaron * r33303 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Use double quotes [18:16:18] this particular wiki is not open to public editing so I [18:16:33] 'll be entirely in charge of redirects [18:17:06] then just don't click the links that lead to redirect pages [18:17:28] why not? [18:17:44] then you won't have to see the redirect=no pages. problem solved [18:18:53] i'm trying to export a wiki for local hosting (so I can view/search it offline). The problem is it has over 500 categories. Is there a way to use wildcards with category exports? Will this export .jpgs as well? Is there a better way to create a local copy of a wiki? [18:18:54] flyingparchment: I just hacked the "doRedirect" function in Article.php so it won't append the "redirect=no" string [18:18:57] :) [18:19:23] <^demon> blue_asterik: Can still type it manually :-P [18:19:31] congratulations, you've made your wiki broken and confusing for no reason [18:19:38] ^demon: sure :) [18:19:43] AaronSchulz: any other tables/field updates need to be done for flaggedrevs? [18:19:52] no [18:20:04] that was an old idea I should have done long ago [18:20:09] so just add flaggedrevs_promote? [18:20:13] yep [18:20:18] hi! I made an "include" in LocalSettings.php. I received "Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_INCLUDE in /home/eriberto/public_html/wiki/LocalSettings.php on line 129". How to solve this? [18:20:31] look at line 129 ;) [18:20:52] cap_eriberto: probably you're missing a ; on the previous line [18:22:14] flyingparchment: people expect when a link should redirect that it will redirect instead of pointing to a redirect page for techinical reasons [18:22:27] blue_asterisk: normal links do redirect [18:22:37] only when you click special links, like the link to view the redirect without redirect, does it not [18:23:37] flyingparchment: ok.. which links are considered "normal"? [18:24:09] flyingparchment: all the links in my wiki seem "unnormal" [18:24:29] then something is wrong with your wiki. provide an example [18:24:52] thanks! problem solved!!! [18:25:27] does some apache rewrite rule need to be in place? [18:25:33] no [18:25:51] modphp vs fcgi? [18:26:07] no [18:26:41] which links are considered normal? [18:27:04] links in articles, edit summaries... basically everywhere except when they specifically refer to the redirect page, not the article it redirects to [18:27:29] (e.g. the 'redirect from ...' link below the title is redirect=no, because the entire purpose of that link is to let you navigate to the redirect page) [18:27:45] hey somenoe wanna tell me a good website for mediawiki plug ins? [18:27:53] I just set up my site and I'm looking for add-ons [18:28:08] phone [18:28:12] mib_iwy88dhd: Look Mediawiki.org and Extensions. [18:28:28] extensions - had the wrong word in search - thanks [18:33:53] 03aaron * r33304 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: More tweaks. Add unique page check. [18:36:15] I have setup a MediaWiki install and closed creating/editing of content by non-sysop users. However, I want to create a group, add users to that group and give members of that group editing access to one article on the Wiki... is this possible? [18:38:57] I have a problem with backups. I use mysql on ubuntu (7.10 - Gutsy Gibbon ) and mediawiki 1.10.0. [18:39:55] According to the FAQ, it is important that the locale in mysql is not set to latin1, but I did not read that and did a normal [18:40:06] mysqldump with that setting [18:41:12] I can read all the pages, but I'n not allowed to edit any page, not even new ones. It says oldid is null [18:41:53] Anybody know how to fix this [18:41:55] ? [18:47:20] ? [18:48:45] LocalSettings has utf8? [18:49:01] As I remember I switched that and it worked [18:49:06] I'll see, just a moment [18:50:10] be sure to store the original backups in a safe place [18:50:30] LocalSettings does not mention locale, but default is UTF.8 [18:51:34] have you updated mw or something and got into trouble? [18:52:26] I had a database corruption in mysql, and tried to recover from backup. Same version of mysql [18:52:33] and mediawiki [18:52:47] both before and after [18:53:00] no version changes? [18:54:32] only in mysql (Now I use ubuntus (5.0.45) earlier I used 5.0.41 built from source [18:55:03] I used mysqldump for the backups [18:55:11] oldid is null is strange... but that you can read the pages should indicate that the database is intact.. [18:55:22] Hey.. if a user has NEVER made a post, or edited ANYTHING in the wiki, is it a bad idea to delete them from the database? [18:55:40] That user no long needs access to the wiki.. thats why im asking [18:56:03] I think it is mostly intact, but I'm still not allowed to edit anything [18:56:42] I got no errors on import, and the dum looks fine. [18:56:53] the dump I mean [18:56:53] You haven't recreated the database as another user? [18:57:28] 03huji * r33305 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: * Adding/updating Persian translations [18:57:29] In mediawiki or in mysql? [18:57:37] Or in unix [18:57:59] in mysql [18:58:35] I recreated with the user/password/database name in LocalSettings [18:59:16] It may be a privileges thing maybe? What should it be? [19:00:02] if you have some management software, look into the page table and heck if there are entries for oldid [19:00:09] check [19:00:25] ???? [19:01:04] page_id that should be [19:01:46] wikidb has a table mw_page, and in this there is a column called page_id [19:02:02] there should be numbers in that [19:03:22] I think the database is okey, and the faoult is somewhere else.. but I have no clue.. ;) [19:04:18] Titleblacklist blocks pages from being created -- does that include uploading images? [19:04:41] There is no mw_page in wikidb, at least not in my wikidb [19:05:04] No table with that name at least [19:05:33] can be somehing else in the initial part of the name [19:05:38] *page [19:07:35] I have entered a regex, and it stops pages matching it from creation, but does not block image uploads which match it. [19:07:41] Is that expected behaviour? [19:08:50] Just page; but that looks OK - nicely numbered from 1 - xxx [19:11:06] what exactly did you do, if you can recollect [19:11:40] I think yur data are safe, its just the system thats gone wacky [19:11:54] Keep your backup safe! [19:12:17] When looking, it seems like it may be some privilege problem. The recreated database may be misaligned with respect to required priveleges by mediawiki [19:13:03] can be.. [19:13:22] I had some problems with locking after a database crash [19:13:53] after wrestling with it I simply truncated the jobs table [19:17:03] Trying GRANT ALL did not help, so privileges is probably not the problem [19:17:19] And I did flush privileges; [19:18:39] Hiho [19:20:30] 03aaron * r33306 10/trunk/phase3/includes/User.php: Add comment [19:21:20] Did you update MW somehow? [19:21:37] Is the location of the scripts changed? [19:21:52] Are the old LocalSettings.php retained [19:21:52] 03(WONTFIX) Flagged bots to have exeption from spamlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13706 (10brion) [19:22:58] No upgrade of mediawiki, not even reinsalling the same version [19:23:05] 03(mod) Allow to force "watch this" checkbox via URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13710 +need-review (10brion) [19:23:08] no change in location [19:23:21] LocalSettings is retained [19:23:50] is there a "plaintext" interface (preferably a command line app) that will allow me to create an article from a text file? [19:24:29] Reload the database if the dump is complete? [19:24:48] I don't know what the problem can be.. [19:25:23] 03(WONTFIX) It should be possible to use imagemaps as inline elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13711 +comment (10brion) [19:27:47] In index.php ... at the end... if I wish to read an article title variable what should I look for ? [19:29:48] 03(mod) Data too long for column 'rev_comment' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13721 (10brion) [19:31:05] 03(mod) update.php doesn't print errors to stderr - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13723 (10brion) [19:32:38] *MrZ-man pokes brion toward https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1511 [19:32:44] 03huji * r33307 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * Adding/updating Persian translations [19:33:29] 03aaron * r33308 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Add more settings [19:35:24] 03(mod) update.php doesn't print errors to stderr - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13723 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [19:35:45] 14(WFM) Even if "Add pages I create to my watchlist" is set, uploading an image does not automatically watch it. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13725 +comment (10brion) [19:41:16] 03aaron * r33309 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: edits -> Pages [19:44:26] 03(ASSIGNED) Formating Change when Section edited or whole page edited.. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13728 +comment (10brion) [19:51:19] 03aaron * r33310 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Return out [19:54:52] 03ialex * r33311 10/trunk/extensions/SiteMatrix/SiteMatrix_body.php: Setting property svn:keywords Id for the api module [19:57:57] 14(INVALID) Make deleting the Main Page a permission like bigdelete which is simply not assigned by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13730 +comment (10brion) [19:58:21] http://www.bemroses.net/images/curves.jpg [19:59:53] :) [20:00:18] I assume you are an emaxer? [20:01:12] hehe [20:01:36] *jeblad needs Mediawiki for dummies [20:02:01] 14(DUP) Odd personal links line in Mediazilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13737 +comment (10brion) [20:02:07] 03(mod) process_bug.cgi hides "bugs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13134 +comment (10brion) [20:02:32] http://www.tentacle.franken.de/adm3a/ [20:02:36] ~ == HOME [20:02:45] intresting notion [20:03:37] I wonder what the Visual Studio graph defines [20:03:41] 03(mod) Add bot generated spam reports on enwiki to robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13398 +comment (10Phoenixoverride) [20:05:45] brion: any plan to fix the copyright "security" bug? [20:05:55] AzaTht: never heard of it [20:06:04] we talked about it remember [20:06:04] so... no? [20:06:09] not that i know of [20:06:18] copyright security bug is meaningless to me [20:06:25] the force everyone to log out "bug" [20:06:26] can you point to a description or bug report? [20:07:26] untill editapi is up and running, it's pretty difficult to non-devs to undo such damage [20:08:00] i have no clue what you're talking about [20:08:36] [20:08:59] the raw html problem [20:09:00] why would the API accept a GET request to log out? [20:09:03] I /think/ the problem is that [[MediaWiki:Copyright]] uses raw HTML, and is loaded on every page [20:09:13] flyingparchment: as long the normal logout accepts GET [20:09:35] 03(mod) Create additional crucial namespaces on [als] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13578 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [20:09:46] [20:09:50] works as well [20:10:26] just less to type when pointing to the api ツ [20:10:44] AzaTht: what's copyright got to do with anything? [20:10:54] or raw html? [20:10:58] brion: it's that message that's displayed on all pages [20:11:07] what message? [20:11:14] [[MediaWiki:Copyright]] [20:11:30] MediaWiki:Copyright [20:11:42] that message no one can avoid [20:11:55] AzaTht: is your question "will MediaWiki:Copyright be output as formatted text instead of raw html?" [20:12:15] or is it "will the logout APIs be fixed so you can't log out with a foreign GET request"? [20:12:22] brion: first one [20:12:31] as the second one is void [20:12:35] the answer to both is "probably when someone gets around to it, please make sure they're in bugzilla" [20:12:50] the raw html is in the bugzilla [20:13:09] I never wrote an special bug report for the copyright message issue [20:13:58] if the question is about rogue sysops, note that they can just as easily hit sitewide js and css to accomplish the same thing [20:14:11] not really [20:14:15] yes, really [20:14:25] it's easier to disable js in a client than to disable images [20:15:00] brion: is the Copyright message cached like site JS? [20:15:38] mr_claus_: no [20:15:41] MrZ-man: * [20:15:42] AzaTht: it's equally easy, actually [20:15:55] brion: as the js is cached, it wont affect everyone [20:16:05] the copyright message isn't cached [20:16:06] christ, just add your notes to the bug [20:16:14] so everyone will be directly forced logout [20:17:40] 03brion * r33312 10/trunk/tools/planet/sr/config.ini: Locale setting doesn't work [20:18:54] there, that was fun :) [20:19:12] 03(NEW) Allow for gadgets to be turned on by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13742 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Gadgets; (jhsoby) [20:19:32] AzaTht: the proper fix for this case is to make the logout interfaces not as horribly lame [20:19:43] right now any offsite link can log you out, that's not very nice [20:20:28] taking you to a page that requires a POST would work but me a touch annoying. making it a button would work but be a bit ugly. adding a token would probably work, but might have issues (but i don't think it would be too problematic) [20:20:55] true [20:21:58] hi [20:22:15] hy [20:22:22] anyone can help me? [20:22:30] I install mediawiki [20:22:43] and not understand how I change [20:22:48] favicon.ico [20:22:54] where is it? [20:23:08] 03(mod) Many MediaWiki: messages not safe in XHTML - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212 normal->major; +comment (10azatoth) [20:23:19] brion: there [20:23:38] think I took the right bug [20:23:54] 03(mod) Many MediaWiki: messages not safe in XHTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212 major->normal (10brion) [20:25:35] AzaTht = azatoth ? [20:25:41] yes [20:25:51] italian? [20:26:05] don't think so [20:26:42] loop_: Manual:$wgFavicon [20:26:48] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgFavicon sorry [20:27:06] o [20:27:09] yes [20:27:11] i read this [20:27:19] but i do not understand [20:27:28] where i wrote this [20:27:34] $wgFavicon = "$wgScriptPath/favicon.ico"; [20:27:36] ? [20:27:47] *write [20:27:53] in localsettings.php [20:28:00] ah [20:28:06] thanks a lot [20:28:08] :D [20:28:09] 03brion * r33313 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/parserTests.txt: Add parser test case for bug 13728 [20:28:14] thanks thanks [20:28:15] :D [20:28:18] 03(mod) Formating Change when Section edited or whole page edited.. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13728 (10brion) [20:33:02] Hi all. [20:34:02] two questions: a) is there any "easy" way to dump a static "snapshot" of a mediawiki that could (sans logins and ACLs) be accessible from an HDD or cdrom for backup purposes? and B) ... nevermind this one, sorry [20:39:12] 03brion * r33314 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Parser.php): * (bug 13728) Don't trim initial whitespace during section edits [20:39:54] 03(FIXED) Formating Change when Section edited or whole page edited.. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13728 +comment (10brion) [20:44:14] 14(WFM) TitleMoveComplete & SpecialMovepageAfterMove not working in 1. 12 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13732 +comment (10brion) [21:01:50] 03(mod) "Revert to this version" link for admins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1511 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [21:01:57] last question how I can set that only register user can modify wiki? [21:02:18] !wg GroupPermissions [21:02:18] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgGroupPermissions [21:02:55] thanks ialex [21:02:59] :D [21:08:08] 03brion * r33315 10/trunk/phase3/ (40 files in 3 dirs): [21:08:08] Revert r33178 -- doesn't actually work. [21:08:08] Wrong message name, improper spacing, no wrapping. [21:58:48] 03(mod) Account cannot be renamed to a global username - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13507 (10kbblogger) [22:01:44] hey all... anyone know about the mediawiki api? [22:02:14] i have a few questions about it? [22:03:49] night at all [22:03:51] bye [22:05:53] >.> [22:12:05] is there a recommended way to read content from a system message into a php variable? [22:12:16] looking at how it's done in Gadgets.php [22:19:39] brion, any comment on when that redirect fix we were discussing (r33133) may go live? [22:20:01] brick_ijigg: when i'm done with commit review and fixes [22:21:02] brion, that's reasonable, you know your responsibilities... i'm just planning for when i can start using the API again. [22:25:04] well, it should be by the end of today :) [22:29:47] great, brion, thanks! [22:34:56] 03(mod) Use HttpOnly cookies for session and authentication - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4731 (10brion) [22:57:18] 03(NEW) Squid access log stream sometimes contains one-letter subdomains - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13743 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Usage Statistics; (Wiki.Melancholie) [22:59:00] 03(mod) Squid access log stream sometimes contains one-letter subdomains - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13743 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [23:02:49] 03(mod) Request mailing list creation for Wikimedia Blog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13741 summary (10cbrown1023) [23:44:51] Howdy folks. I am looking for an extension or widget that lets me have dynamic galleries like the one found http://community.softimage.com/ for my wiki. Does anyone know any? [23:45:31] !extensions [23:45:31] --mwbot-- MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See for an overview of known extensions. [23:45:31] 03brion * r33316 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuth.php: [23:45:31] * Add a switch for $wgCentralAuthCookies -- leave off by default temporarily, want to tweak some things before we roll that out. [23:45:31] * Change default value for $wgCentralAuthCookieDomain. $wgServer is a bad value (not a domain name); leaving it at '' will give the desired default behavior of setting for the current domain. [23:45:32] * Expanded some config comments [23:46:17] svn up time... [23:46:17] 03dale * r33317 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/images/ (cc_meta.svg cc_meta_sm.png): added remote close caption button [23:46:17] dannyBlue: Try the Extension Matrix link above. [23:47:00] I have found a couple of gallery extensions but none that does what i want :( [23:47:13] Question about oversight and checkuser. If Person A edits Person B's account posting a phone number on someone elses talk page, and said revision is removed to the oversight logs. Will checkuser pickup Person A's IP or is it lost to oversight? [23:47:23] edits using Person B's* [23:48:40] gone [23:49:05] i think anyway [23:49:06] ok, thanks [23:49:11] hmm [23:51:27] 03brion * r33318 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/db_patches/patch-globaluser_gu_authtoken.sql: newlines are nice :) [23:52:44] 03(FIXED) Create Simple English Wikipedia mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13739 +comment (10cbass) [23:54:09] can the article in the Image: namespace be linked to without displaying the image itself, but as a freelink? [23:54:55] without using http links, that is [23:55:21] MooingLemur: like this? [[:Image:Whatever.png]] [23:55:31] oh, yeah, that's right [23:55:34] the colon before [23:55:35] thanks [23:56:34] 04(REOPENED) Request Category Count feature - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13735 +comment (10jutiphan)