[00:00:25] brion-away, RHEL 5 is missing it too by default. [00:00:34] rhel sux [00:00:44] Yeah, I wish Ubuntu had been an option. [00:00:51] Or that I had just installed it myself. [00:00:58] Too late now, I can't go mucking up the OS on a live server. [00:01:14] there, there :) [00:02:09] 14(DUP) Redirect does not render as normal in a preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13769 +comment (10meno25wiki) [00:02:14] 03(mod) Redirect graphic not shown in preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2333 +comment (10meno25wiki) [00:02:19] 03(mod) Use Preprocessor_Hash by default to avoid missing DOM module errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13770 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [00:37:17] I keep getting an error message "Failed to parse (unknown error): 2+x" for TeX snippets on Windows with Apache and PHP. I followed the instructions on mediawiki.org for math support. anyone have any ideas? [00:39:00] !math [00:39:00] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Math [00:39:03] !windows [00:39:03] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "windows". You might try: !bom !downgrade [00:39:06] !bom [00:39:06] --mwbot-- The byte-order mark (BOM) is a special character added to files by some text editors, most notably, by Notepad. It is unnecessary and breaks PHP code. You should not use Notepad to edit PHP files. Alternatives for Windows include Notepad++, SciTE, EditPlus, and UltraEdit. [00:39:27] !downgrade [00:39:27] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "downgrade"... you must be a Windows user. Perhaps you mean http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [00:39:37] LOL [00:42:40] anyone do math support on their wikis? I just enabled debug logging [00:50:40] hi how can i use make {{#expr:1+2}} work? [00:51:07] That should work... [00:51:15] it is not [00:51:21] Do you have PerserFunctions installed? [00:51:29] ParserFunctions* [00:51:34] yep, i can find it in the 'Version' [00:51:45] 03(NEW) Set $wgBlockAllowsUTEdit for Arabic (ar) Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13771 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (meno25wiki) [00:51:49] Hmm. [00:51:57] MediaWiki version? [00:52:03] trunk [00:52:08] Huh [00:52:31] Parser hooks ParserFunctions (Version 1.1.1) Enhance parser with logical functions Tim Starling [00:52:36] in the version [00:52:47] but , {{#expr:1+2}} never work [00:52:57] Hmm. [00:53:07] Will any other function work? [00:53:16] Such as #if and #ifexist [00:53:18] ? [00:53:40] no [00:53:52] all of them are not working [00:53:59] i have no idea.... [00:54:10] Huh. [00:54:18] What's the error? [00:54:36] no error message just show '{{#expr:1+2}}' [00:55:01] Did you include expr.php? [00:55:11] wait let me check it [00:55:51] should i include it in the LocalSettings.php? [00:56:05] No. [00:58:32] then where should i include it? [00:59:41] Nowhere, it is included in the ParserFunctions.php or some other file. [01:03:10] 03(NEW) Add pywikipedia to bugzilla.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13772 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (meno25wiki) [01:06:40] 03skizzerz * r33460 10/trunk/extensions/EditSubpages/EditSubpages.php: quickfix for EditSubpages so you can save pages :) [01:08:10] 03(mod) Add pywikipedia to bugzilla.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13772 +comment (10river) [01:09:23]  hi how can i use make {{#expr:1+2}} work? [01:09:31] any help? [01:14:19] hi how can i use make {{#expr:1+2}} work, any help? [01:14:27] hi how can i make {{#expr:1+2}} work? [01:19:27] please don't repeat yourself [01:19:31] we did hear you the first time [01:19:34] sorry [01:19:40] the answer to your question is, I think, in the FAQ [01:19:44] !faq [01:19:44] --mwbot-- Before reporting a problem or requesting assistance, please check the FAQ first. The FAQ for MediaWiki can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ [01:20:12] apparently not [01:20:18] install the ParserFunctions extension [01:20:23] i read, i have the parserFunctions.php [01:20:32] Parser hooks ParserFunctions (Version 1.1.1) Enhance parser with logical functions Tim Starling [01:20:32] did you install it? [01:20:36] in the version [01:23:18] Any texvc gurus around? [01:23:23] !texvc [01:23:23] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Math [01:23:33] !math [01:23:33] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Math [01:23:35] argh [01:24:15] I did install the ParserFuncions extension, but i can not use {{#expr:1+2}} or other command. Please help [01:24:28] 03(mod) Page move vandalism creates watchlist clutter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13602 summary (10wikimedia) [01:32:38] alecliu: do you have the correct version of ParserFunctions for your MediaWiki version? [01:34:21] hey all how do I add a user if im the sysop on mediawiki [01:34:32] Check their name in [[Special:Listusers]] [01:34:34] i restricted account creation and viewing/editing most pages by anonymous [01:34:38] If they're a sysop, it will say so [01:34:43] oh [01:34:46] I misread [01:34:49] hehe :) [01:34:52] [[Special:Userlogin]] [01:35:00] click create an account [01:35:04] He left [01:35:29] well that was intresting [01:35:31] click create an account [01:35:35] xchat crashed when I copied that [01:35:37] create the account [01:35:40] Really [01:35:43] That's weird :) [01:35:46] Skizzerz: thanks for your reply. i am not sure, i am using the trunk version , the version of parserfunctions is "1.1.1" [01:35:59] alecliu: what mediawiki version do you have? [01:36:19] MediaWiki 1.13alpha (r33458) [01:36:29] ST47, yes never seen xchat crash before, thank you for the help though I see how it works now ^^ [01:36:31] then it should be fine... [01:36:39] Yay [01:36:47] but it is not working [01:36:53] i have not idea.... [01:36:55] I gather that much >_> [01:36:58] no idea [01:37:24] is there anyway for me to do some debug on it? [01:37:31] yes [01:37:37] how? [01:37:52] put error_reporting(E_ALL); at the very top of LocalSettings.php (like the line under the then [01:38:22] visit the page that uses the #expr: [01:38:39] a message should appear at the top of your screen detailing the error if there is one [01:38:41] wait, let me try it ouy [01:39:17] nothing show up [01:39:29] hmm... [01:39:33] it just saved, and show "{{#expr:1+2}} {{#expr:1+21}} {{#expr:13+21}}" [01:40:48] alecliu: I cannot reproduce your issue on my local wiki [01:41:11] does ParserFunctions show up in your Special:Version page? [01:41:22] yep [01:41:24] it is [01:41:47] and the require_once is pointing to the right file? [01:41:56] i think so [01:42:12] Are there any extensions or methods for read-protecting a page? [01:42:18] actually, i did out error_log() into that file for testing [01:42:23] out->put [01:42:23] k4jcw, yes [01:42:49] I do realize that evaluated to a yes/no type question... [01:42:57] But I'm hoping for some more detail :) [01:42:59] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false; [01:43:03] look at that option [01:43:12] Oh, my bad. On a per-page basis. [01:44:13] I'd like to be able to develop content that's not accessible until it's complete. I'm thinking that read-protecting pages that are works-in-progress would be useful. [01:46:33] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Page_specific_user_rights_extensions I guess the red box comment kind of says it all, doesn't it? [01:51:21] k4jcw: pretty much, yes [01:51:43] k4jcw: although there IS a nifty little "show preview" button in the edit form that works quite well for that too :) [01:51:58] Not when it takes 3 days to get content in... [01:52:06] Like waiting for some hoser to answer their email. [01:52:47] make a namespace named Draft: or the like, and use the Lockdown extension to view-restrict it from non-sysops or whatnot [01:52:56] I do wish there was a "save but don't commit this page" option. Given how often Firefox has started crashing in the last 3 revisions, I don't like having a large buffer full of information. Sometimes I edit it vi and paste it in, just to be paranoid. [01:53:11] then write the drafts in that namespace and move them over to mainspace once finished [01:53:34] That's a good idea. I'm new enough at this that using things like the namespaces effectively doesn't occur to me. [01:53:40] yeah [01:53:45] !namespaces [01:53:45] --mwbot-- For help with understanding and manipulating namespaces, please consult . See also !extranamespace [01:53:52] !extranamespace [01:53:52] --mwbot-- To add a namespace, modify your LocalSettings.php file, and add namespaces via $wgExtraNamespaces. A comprehensive set of instructions for adding a namespace can be found at . $wgExtraNamespaces can also be used to rename the default namespaces. [01:53:58] !lockdown [01:53:58] --mwbot-- Lockdown is an extension for preventing read or write access by namespace and limiting access to special pages. For more information, see < http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown >. For general information on preventing access to your wiki, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [01:54:34] check out the Using custom namespaces thingie to set up the new namespace, then the Lockdown page for a means of restricting it [02:11:08] hi [02:12:06] anyone here? [02:13:14] i am here with quetion [02:14:00] me too [02:14:09] what's up [02:14:13] how do you make ppl moderators [02:14:17] and things like that [02:14:23] !moderator [02:14:23] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "moderator". [02:14:28] !users [02:14:28] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "users". You might try: !checkuser !deleteuser !dismissablesitenotice !newusergroup !oversight !renameuser !sandbox !subversion !support !userapproval [02:14:45] !user [02:14:45] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "user". You might try: !access !checkuser !deleteuser !dismissablesitenotice !downgrade !javascript !newusergroup !oversight !passwordsql !protect !renameuser !rights !rollback !sandbox !subversion !sul !support !toolserver !userapproval !userrights [02:14:51] !userrights [02:14:51] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [02:14:51] TheChosenOne: you mean administrators in the wiki? [02:15:00] yeah got the right link [02:15:53] I've been banging my head against a wall just to get math support running on Windows [02:19:00] erflynn: dude... if you start from a wobbly footing, what can you expect? [02:19:44] naught101: heh [02:19:49] tnx [02:20:11] naught101: seriously, though, isn't mediawiki supposed to be multi platform? [02:20:34] mediawiki is the software written to run wikipedia [02:20:40] it happens to work on some other platforms, sometimes [02:20:45] erflynn: I'm the wrong person to ask [02:21:50] flyingparchment: is it basically the case that any functionality that wikipedia doesn't need will never make its way into mediawiki, and will always remain as as extension at best? [02:22:00] no [02:22:18] but mediawiki will never change in a way that makes it unsuitable for wikipedia [02:22:41] afaik wikipedia runs the latest development versions of mediawiki [02:27:55] what would happen if wikipidea deicded to shut down permently [02:28:29] You couldn't access the site? [02:28:57] hehehe [02:29:02] no its hypotheriratial idea [02:29:09] then there wouldn't be a mediawiki.. or someone would fork it [02:29:11] what would happen if it shutdown [02:29:16] oh [02:30:45] Well, sorta, maybe. If wikipedia shutdown, it does not mean the end of mediawiki. [02:30:55] doesn't necessarily* [02:31:17] Each is a result of the other. In theory, they can exist separately. [02:31:55] i wouldn't say wikipedia is a result of mediawiki, it changed software twice before MW existed [02:31:56] mediawiki doesn't need wikipedia to survive. And wikipedia could always go closed source or change system, and still serve content under the wikimedia URL. [02:32:20] Fair point. [02:32:59] But what about it's current look and feel? I don't know/remember what WM used before MW. [02:33:26] you could use the archive machine [02:33:42] hey all, i'd like to look into what features are available in extensions out there. is there a listing out there of the most popular MediaWiki Extensions? [02:33:47] k4jcw: the pre-1.3 skin was somewhat similar to usemod [02:33:52] (Standard) [02:34:45] !extensionmatrix | chelz [02:34:45] --mwbot-- chelz: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix [02:35:08] doesn't list most popular, but it lists pretty much all of them with descriptions :) [02:35:24] ah yeah, i have that open. i was hoping there was some way to find out the more-used ones [02:35:30] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Extensions_by_category chelz, it's probably more useful to browse by what you want to do that just cruising all the extensions. [02:35:40] Mostly because some of the extensions have really moronic names. [02:35:48] heh [02:37:12] I use UserMerge, MediaFunctions, and PageCSS. I also have CustomTitle loaded, but don't use it. And I just installed Lockdown. [02:38:21] ah ty [02:38:29] i guess is should ask people running wikis what they use [02:38:48] i heard ParserFunctions is good [02:38:50] *Skizzerz uses a LOT of extensions :P [02:38:50] Actually, I can't say I really *use* UserMerge. I'm the only user :) [02:39:09] chelz: yes, definately get ParserFunctions :) [02:39:13] k4jcw: using it as a homepage or local note organizer? [02:39:18] Skizzerz: mind listing? :D [02:39:37] sure, one sec [02:39:38] Personal website. http://www.tinymicros.com [02:39:56] http://cabal.w.exofire.net/wiki/Special:Version [02:40:03] ah nice [02:40:23] didn't feel like typing 20-some things, so I just linked to my wiki's version page [02:40:50] works just fine. ty :) [02:43:19] Oh wow. Editsubpages looks like exactly what I need. [02:43:28] k4jcw: :D [02:44:59] with EditSubpages, if registration is required to edit on the wiki, does it unlock it just for users or does it have no effect? [02:45:16] it unlocks it for non-registered users [02:45:37] ah, so it doesn't work in the context of a registration-only wiki [02:45:51] it was designed specifically for a registration-only wiki [02:45:58] it's completely pointless otherwise :) [02:46:31] ohh.. well allowing anonymous editing is kind of against the point of a registration-only wiki, no? :P [02:46:33] it allows you to designate specific pages that non-registered users can edit. To edit the rest they have to register or log in [02:46:38] ah [02:46:44] yeah i see where it would be useful [02:48:03] Have you tested it with user-added namespaces and such? I like the idea of creating a FreeForAll: namespace for that sort of thing. [02:48:24] it should work with it [02:48:36] as long as the custom namespace is registered correctly [02:49:03] Sure [02:49:36] How do you specify it? [[FreeForAll:]] ? [02:49:49] * [[FreeForAll:Pagename]] [02:50:08] with or without the [[ and ]] if you so wish [02:50:20] So there has to be a minimum of one page created ahead of time. [02:50:29] doesn't have to be created [02:50:37] ah [02:50:37] you can unlock uncreated pages too [02:50:54] So how does that unlock the entire name space? [02:51:07] it doesn't... [02:51:17] That's what I'm asking/suggesting. The ability to do that. [02:51:46] that feature IS pending in the next version though :) [02:52:20] You'll have it ready for tomorrow? About this time? :) [02:52:35] probably not tomorrow... I haven't quite finished it yet [02:52:40] but should be ready by the weekend [02:53:55] anyway, i have to go now, so direct all further inquiries to either http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:EditSubpages or http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Skizzerz :) [02:54:05] wait! One more question... [02:54:09] k [02:54:21] This is probably really stupid... But how to you create a subpage? [02:54:30] !subpage [02:54:30] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "subpage". You might try: !javascript !subpages [02:54:34] !subpages [02:54:34] --mwbot-- By default some namespaces have subpages enabled and others don't. You can enable or disable them using $wgNamespacesWithSubpages in LocalSettings.php. [02:54:40] ahhhh [02:54:51] and subpages are basically things like Pagename/otherpage [02:54:58] (the / denotes the subpage) [02:55:12] Thanks. [02:55:14] np [03:12:00] aha yeahh [03:12:04] i need to get into subpage usage [03:12:18] a big part of the wiki i'm working on will need them [03:12:30] the majority even [03:12:31] They're really advised against. [03:12:43] oh? =/ [03:12:50] O.O eh? [03:12:51] using categories is better? [03:12:56] You're not supposed to think heirarchily in a wiki. [03:13:03] since when? [03:13:16] People instinctively think hierarchically when trying to organise information, so it may be tempting use subpages all the time, however, subpages can be over-used. Remember that having a page name with a slash will generally make the name longer, harder to remember, and thus more difficult to link to. Some people find it more elegant to keep page naming simple. By sticking to a flat naming structure, with a manually maintained w [03:13:17] eb of wiki links, a structure will emerge organically (and this can include a pseudo-hierarchy) [03:13:23] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Subpages [03:13:23] some things are part of other larger things though. i've seen subpages used pretty well [03:13:38] ah [03:13:43] that is something to keep in mind [03:14:17] my wiki is game related though, we're thinking http://example.com/wiki/Game/Region/Version works for our purposes [03:14:19] that doesn't make sense [03:14:38] hierarchies are /exactly/ sensible for many applications [03:14:42] I particularly agree with the statement about URLs to those pages. [03:14:50] i think they mean it could refer to really long URLs/names [03:15:03] so don't use it unless you think it outweighs lengthening those [03:15:42] could end up towards using* [03:16:16] Of course, you could just tinyurl.com all the links :) Might be totally unmemorable, but they'd be short. [03:16:23] haha [03:16:49] And, on a different note, one out of one programmers surveyed said it was time for bed. [03:16:50] or have first-level pages that link to higher pages [03:16:53] So, good night. [03:16:56] wikipedia used to use subpages in the main namespace: [[United Kingdom/History]] [03:16:59] nite k4jcw :) [03:17:01] turned out it sucked [03:17:11] oh [03:17:14] how so? [03:17:14] long urls is only a problem when you need to link to places below the top level (outside the wiki) [03:17:19] i don't remember why [03:17:28] hmm [03:18:35] 03(mod) Interwiki map update - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12763 +comment (10snowolf) [03:21:15] well i guess it could cause problems [03:21:38] but it's not really different than http://example.com/wiki/Page#Section just a bit bigger [03:22:01] chelz: the new title of that article would be [[History of the United Kingdom]] [03:22:40] ah.. [03:22:54] that is a bit better looking for visitors [03:23:11] why not keep both and have one redirect to the other? [03:23:16] have you cake, eat it too [03:47:22] 03(NEW) Create a global rollback group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13773 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (mike.lifeguard) [03:48:32] 03(mod) Create a global rollback group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13773 +comment (10Andrew) [03:49:31] 03(mod) Create a global rollback group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13773 +comment (10vasilvv) [03:50:42] Werdna: Ping. [03:53:26] yeah? [03:53:39] VasilievVV: ping [03:53:46] pong [03:54:02] I just started work on that bug, too [03:54:07] :) [03:54:08] how far have you got? [03:54:18] You can work on it [03:54:25] okay, thanks [03:54:37] Just some things: [03:54:53] 1. Introduce seperate $wgCentralAuthGroupPermissions [03:55:14] 2. Use UserGetRights hook [03:55:47] Werdna: You're supporting rollback being a global right? That seems rather strange. [03:56:08] MZMcBride: SUL groups [03:56:08] why? [03:56:13] I think it's the most worthless group. [03:56:19] spam-reverters. [03:56:25] Something like new table called "globalrights" [03:56:29] Hrm.. [03:56:46] VasilievVV: I'm going to use centralauth as a bit of a demo for putting user rights in the db [03:57:00] so, no $wgCentralAuthGroupPermissions [03:57:08] more like group_permission table in db [03:57:16] I fear that a +rollback group will be a slipper slope. [03:57:21] Slippery, too. [03:57:23] Ah... nice [03:57:53] It's already led to tens of bugs being filed on small wikis for individual groups. All seems kinda silly. [03:58:07] right, which is what this is for [03:58:38] Well, either fully modularizing user rights or allowing steward (or Meta admin) config would be better, I think. [03:58:48] Rather than requiring shell access. [03:58:55] that's what i'm bloody doing :P [03:59:03] *MZMcBride shuts up. :) [03:59:15] Werdna: so like a special page to create usergroups? [04:00:37] correct. [04:00:43] piloting for SUL groups [04:00:51] if it works well, I'll look into local groups too [04:01:11] *MZMcBride looks around for a developer to fix the blacklist mess. [04:01:22] I don't recommend to do it [04:01:26] brb. need fresh air. [04:01:29] VasilievVV: why? [04:01:44] Because we will have to run updater for every user rights change [04:01:53] MZMcBride: blacklist mess? [04:01:55] ... no? [04:02:13] VasilievVV: We currently have four, none of which can control things like edit summaries. [04:02:21] Merging them would be nice. [04:02:25] E.g. if we introduce some new right [04:02:29] Four? [04:02:38] Spam, title, image, username? [04:02:44] Spam, title, username, and filename prefix. [04:02:49] 03(ASSIGNED) Create a global rollback group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13773 +comment (10Andrew) [04:03:10] Oh, yes, and I suppose image. So that would be five. [04:03:13] Filename prefix is not a blacklist [04:03:21] It's just a warning-list [04:03:43] Well, it's called "Filename-prefix-blacklist". [04:03:50] So, it should either be fixed or renamed. ;) [04:03:51] Werdna: have you written anything for https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674 or it is just on your extended to-do list? [04:03:54] i know [04:04:04] *is it [04:04:31] ok, gotta go [04:04:40] See ya later. [04:14:38] VasilievVV: does Titleblacklist stop media uploads? [04:47:48] Hi, there has been a change in newpages I wouls like to comment on [04:47:56] Hi, there has been a change in newpages I would like to comment on [04:48:22] The new page numbering has beenremoved [04:48:36] and replaced by bullets instead [04:50:08] I understand that in big wikis numbering is not important but some people in smaller wikis like numbering [04:50:17] for tracking purposes [04:50:36] any comments? [04:56:50] Can't it be switched to numbers via CSS? [04:57:38] I do not know. If it can, I would appreciate if you could telll me how to do it [04:59:13] AFAIK it is not possible to change a
    to a
      by CSS [05:00:11] well [05:00:16] the problem is, you can't continue it [05:00:28] so "older 50" would not start at 51 [05:00:34] since it seems to be doing it by timestamp now [05:01:44] I could settle with numbering of the first 50 [05:05:31] hmm [05:06:11] well, anyway, I raised the issue [05:06:31] if someone is doing the actual programming here [05:06:38] please keep it in mind [05:07:11] and if there is no other reason, please restore the numbering [05:08:18] 03(FIXED) Set $wgBlockAllowsUTEdit for Arabic (ar) Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13771 +comment (10jeluf) [05:09:35] FocalPoint: [05:09:35] .page-Special_NewPages #bodyContent ul li { [05:09:35] list-style-image:none; [05:09:35] list-style-type:decimal; [05:09:35] } [05:10:26] Splarka: [05:11:02] Is this a css? [05:11:09] yes [05:11:16] (sorry I have not done this before, please bear with me) [05:11:17] you can also shorten it to: [05:11:18] .page-Special_NewPages #bodyContent ul li { list-style:decimal outside none; } [05:11:19] okay [05:11:28] add it to MediaWiki:Monobook.css [05:12:11] wait [05:13:39] 03(mod) Allowing disabling captchas for certain groups and actions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13484 -shell (10jeluf) [05:14:19] I added it at the end [05:14:27] (your last version) [05:14:33] bypass your browser cache and then go to Newpages [05:14:41] but even after ctrl+F5 [05:14:55] it did not do anything [05:15:01] to newpages [05:15:12] try adding it to the beginning [05:15:14] .page-Special_NewPages #bodyContent ul li { list-style:decimal outside none; } [05:15:27] I copied everything, even dots [05:15:28] oh [05:15:30] what version are you on? [05:15:51] version of? [05:15:53] go to Special:Newpages and view the page source, find the tag and paste it [05:15:54] mediawiki [05:16:07] for example on enwp: [05:16:18] i am in the greek wikipedia [05:16:42] ahh [05:16:52] 03(FIXED) Closing ga.wikquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13267 +comment (10jeluf) [05:16:56] 03(FIXED) closing ga.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13266 +comment (10jeluf) [05:16:58] link me to newpages there [05:17:17] http://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%95%CE%B9%CE%B4%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%8C:NewPages [05:19:49] 03(FIXED) request to turn on RCPatrol on da.wikiqoute - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13246 +comment (10jeluf) [05:21:03] *Splarka looks [05:21:23] 14(INVALID) Request Navigation Upload file link change to Wikipedia:Upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13258 +comment (10jeluf) [05:21:28] I copied the whole thing in the beginning, no reaction either [05:21:50] yah, well, that example I gave was english specific [05:22:34] try this version located here: http://p.defau.lt/?lOSJhn87oU2kfZvx3M3NJA [05:22:34] I can [05:22:41] 't paste unicode in IRC [05:24:07] let me see [05:24:45] How do i link using an image? I want to create an image that is a link to a file. [05:25:20] 04(REOPENED) Request Navigation Upload file link change to Wikipedia:Upload - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13258 +comment (10jutiphan) [05:25:33] 03(FIXED) enable Email notifications on English Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13386 +comment (10jeluf) [05:25:35] !imagelink [05:25:35] --mwbot-- Image linking is intentionally not supported in MediaWiki, so access to the image's description page is always available. If you need image links, see for methods and information. [05:25:58] well done [05:26:01] it works [05:26:07] yay [05:26:12] "it's all greek to me" [05:26:39] oh boy yet another great mediawiki feature. thank sparla [05:26:49] well... what we did was certainly chinese to me (which is the equivalent expression in greek) [05:28:46] hehe [05:29:07] Let me add you name in my monobook, to rememebr who helped, am I right in suposing that */ is making comments start and */ to finish? [05:29:33] sorry /* and */ [05:29:34] /* comment */ [05:29:36] right [05:30:12] OK, /* help by Splarka from irc://irc.freenode.net/mediawiki to show numbers in NewPages */ [05:30:19] has been inserted [05:30:26] *Splarka ponders that this might come back to haunt him [05:30:30] bye and thanks [05:30:33] ciao [05:31:26] 03(FIXED) Request Navigation Upload file link change to Wikipedia:Upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13258 +comment (10jeluf) [06:06:29] What's better for a new message on your talk page? A big orange warning bar, or something nice like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Newmessages [06:07:27] blue bar :) [06:08:43] much nicer [06:08:46] how do we change it? [06:09:19] From a developer standpoint or a user standpoint? [06:09:30] css baby [06:09:39] js more likely [06:09:39] idk, how do we do something like nominate it for change.... or how do you change css for yourself? [06:10:10] Splarka: Or is there a way to do that purely through css? [06:10:18] Adding the image and the text, etc. [06:10:35] well, adding the image and blue, css [06:10:41] Yeah [06:10:53] that "You may remove this notice at any time by removing the {{newmessages}} template." wouldn't be needed [06:11:04] and text can be modified a bit with :before and :after [06:11:12] Ah, true [06:11:23] Or by editing the Mediawiki-namespace entry [06:11:25] (though you can't add links or copyable text) [06:11:32] indeedy [06:11:36] that was just an example [06:11:45] *amidaniel wonders if he would be murdered for changing the default new messages bar ... [06:11:47] Of course it would be similar, but worded to make sense for a new talk message [06:11:50] but you should put the image (or one like it) into /skins/common/images [06:11:55] meaning it should be GPL or PD [06:12:09] The orange thing really is quite hideous .. although I'm not sure this is exactly what we would want [06:12:38] well [06:12:54] you can mod your userContent.css (in FF) to never see that orange ^_^ [06:13:27] Oh don't worry, the way WP looks to me is completely different from how it looks to everyone else :)) [06:13:44] I'm more concerned about the poor users who don't know how to haxxor it themselves [06:14:01] (Is that a correct usage of leet? /me is a l33t n00b :D) [06:14:05] I use a wiki for my personal use. But this PC is in a LAN. Can I restrict access to this wiki from other PCs? .. i.e., allow access only from 127.0.0.1/localhost ? [06:14:46] Nineth: Yes. What webserver are you using? apache? [06:14:52] IIS [06:14:56] Eww [06:15:00] No offense :) [06:15:10] :( [06:15:13] Dunno how it's done in IIS; likely someone here does though [06:15:27] amidaniel: not possible from mediawiki? [06:15:31] Nineth: It's a setting that you have to do in your webserver. Please check your IIS manual. [06:15:40] ok [06:15:55] Nineth: Well, there are things you could do from within MediaWiki but none are too pretty. [06:16:02] or may be i put a REMOTE_HOST checking in index.php :P [06:17:24] Alrighty, well I gotta run [06:17:26] Take care all [06:56:51] 03siebrand * r33461 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (21 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-04-17 08:47 CEST) [06:57:25] *Werdna returns, dead [06:57:27] hi brion [07:01:08] why can admins edit other peoples' monobooks? [07:01:26] shouldn't they be able to? [07:01:48] on a wiki, the default position is "You CAN edit this page" [07:01:59] Therefore, it makes sense that you need to justify any departure from that [07:02:20] but if I'm an admin, I can wreak havoc with other people if they're using IE or an outdated version of FF [07:02:37] indeed. but admins don't [07:02:44] javascript does have its browser exploits [07:03:00] yes, then why don't all admins have checkuser? [07:03:01] you could do that via the site js as well [07:03:11] monobook.js is worse, imho [07:04:16] 03siebrand * r33462 10/trunk/extensions/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-04-17 08:47 CEST) [07:05:22] whatever, I'll just put in a local javascript block for wikipedia, as global permissions are not my decision in any way [08:01:55] <_wooz> lo [08:41:48] 04(REOPENED) Enable subpages for Hebrew Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13695 +comment (10rotemliss) [08:42:24] 03(NEW) User creation form should not be visible if database is locked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13774 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User login/settings; (meno25wiki) [08:45:12] 03millosh * r33463 10/trunk/tools/planet/sr/config.ini: +sasa's fixed feed [08:50:26] 03millosh * r33464 10/trunk/tools/planet/sr/templates/index.html.tmpl: rearranged planetarium; planets wikimedia at the top of the planetarium in english [09:04:00] i like this room :D [09:04:11] doesn't move too fast and has good info [09:16:41] I'm looking for a way to allow my users to upload videos [09:17:18] Actually uploading isn't much of a problem, enabling users to actually use the videos in an article is a different story. [09:18:37] Ideal would be a solution where the Mediawiki server converts all incoming video to a standard Flash Video format, after that the user can do something like: [[Video:nameofvideo]] to place it in an article [09:18:45] So far I've only found extensions that allow editors to link to external (youtube etc) video's which is not what I want :\ [09:18:53] Any ideas? [09:20:34] i already asked on -tech, but anyway [09:23:53] Is there a manual, how to include wikipedia articles into other pages? [09:23:58] like here it is [09:24:01] http://encyklopedie.seznam.cz/heslo/181554-vaclav-havel [09:24:05] the wikipedia article is put into seznam layout [09:25:16] They probably download the WIkipedia DB once in a while and use a script that displays the content on their own site. AFAIK this is not standard Mediawiki functionality. [09:27:28] How to run several wiki with one mediawiki on disk? please give me a hint.... i have one mediawiki and thinking about setting up another... but i do not want to replicate the source [09:29:45] i think it's a sort of wiki farm, right? [09:29:51] triplc, windows or unix? [09:29:57] !farm [09:29:57] --mwbot-- To run multiple wikis, you do not need anything more than to run one wiki. You simply install them in different folders, and if possible using seperate databases. If you only have one database, simply use a different table prefix. For more advanced setups, see [09:29:57] Linux [09:30:59] I guess you could just make two symlinks to the dir with the actual source [09:31:06] mwbot: yet... i do that with Wordpress and it is easy... I think mediawiki should me similar... but i want to find a document/help [09:31:24] then you'll need to put something in LocalSetting.php to use different setting depending on the site being used [09:31:49] mwbot: thanks for the link [09:32:01] Hello and Greetings everybody, got a Q, is it possible to upload multiple images at once in media wiki? Im hoping there is workaround or a plugin for this function... [09:32:10] !help [09:32:10] --mwbot-- Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot >, you can find all my source code at < http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn >. A dump is now available at < http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html > [09:32:43] oops, i forgot that it's a bot! [09:32:45] :) [09:33:10] thanks Splarka [09:33:13] THe link indeed explains it all :) Go Sparka :P [09:33:14] rar [09:33:17] +l [09:33:34] 03mkroetzsch * r33465 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (9 files in 4 dirs): [09:33:34] Improved link generation architecture: build even long parameterised links in a robust fashion, [09:33:34] links with parameters no longer passed around as strings but as (modifiable) objects. Useful [09:33:34] for better linking in encoding intensive (non-ASCII) languages and for iterative link construction (e.g. query [09:33:36] printers may add parameters to query links before serialising it). [09:34:15] SaadSaeed, did you check out the Extension Matrix? [09:34:40] BartVB: checking on MW site now... [09:36:26] Zirland: hotlinking of wikipedia articles isn't allowed and such sites are being blocked from access so far i know [09:37:03] Got it: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MultiUpload [09:37:13] :) [09:37:19] SaadSaeed: extensions/scripts for multiple image uploads are kind of a pain, because browsers are designed not to make it too easy [09:37:42] like that for example, still requires you to browse to each file to upload separately.. not much better than a bunch of tabs [09:38:10] 03mkroetzsch * r33466 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (SMW_Infolink.php SMW_QP_RSSlink.php): use default limit for RSS feeds [09:38:11] if you personally need to upload a lot of images, you might consider pywikipediabot (if it has an upload script?) [09:38:59] it would be nice to be able to zip everything in one file and then upload that but this will do [09:39:11] ive had to upload 10 images at max so this should cut down on that [09:40:28] ahh k [09:42:07] is there an existing comments filtering extension? [09:43:41] ierpe: as in, a way to block pages being saved containing certain comments? [09:43:46] or a way to modify comments of old edits? [09:44:13] no more like to restrict users to use offensive language in their comments [09:44:21] like the blacklist extension [09:44:26] but of rcomments [09:44:31] but for* [09:44:34] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SpamRegex/ [09:44:39] is sorta like that [09:44:49] thx [09:44:50] it lets you block any regex in the body of the text, or comment field [09:44:58] (last I checked, anyways) [09:45:03] thx [09:45:46] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpamRegex [09:45:57] im on it already ^^ [09:46:31] it does have some processor overhead so be warned [09:46:48] is used on Wikia globally (but not wikimedia, yet?) [09:47:01] ok [09:48:22] somewhere there is one for page titles too... [09:48:40] reason being, spam blacklist wasn't stopping certain type of spambots [09:49:27] misconfigured forum bots that looked for a for URL, or such, and were just leaving comments on wiki pages, like "nice blog!", and creating pages like [[/index.php/index.php/]] [09:49:29] yeah i git this one for the tiltes [09:49:48] lol typing problems today :p [09:49:57] i got this one already for the titles [09:49:59] k [09:58:45] 03raymond * r33467 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialIpblocklist.php: [09:58:45] * Use existing CSS classes for input form aligning [09:58:45] * Fix double escaping of the token [09:58:45] * Make a proper label when form is called w/o a valid block id [09:58:45] * Make the length of both input fields identical. I see no reason why to shorten one. [10:05:45] 03millosh * r33468 10/trunk/tools/planet/sr/templates/index.html.tmpl: [10:05:45] fix [10:05:45] --Txhis line, and those below, will be ignored-- [10:05:45] M index.html.tmpl [10:15:57] apparently not. [10:16:19] regarding my quest for easy video uploads; I guess I should take a look at this: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code-2007-wikimedia/downloads/list [10:16:28] Does anyone know if that's still in active development somewhere? [10:17:45] 03(FIXED) Enable subpages for Hebrew Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13695 +comment (10jeluf) [10:28:36] BartVB: probably not [10:28:38] 03werdna * r33469 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUserrights.php: Did this already! [10:29:10] 03(mod) DPL2's include parameter broken with new parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13677 +comment (10gero.scholz) [10:29:58] 03(WONTFIX) Add pywikipedia to bugzilla.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13772 +comment (10valhallasw) [10:31:06] i dont get it i installed the extension SpanRegex and the only thing i have are the logs [10:31:22] i can reach the special page spamregex [10:32:11] give yourself the right? [10:33:10] no but when i go on my wiki now, i get the log as a header [10:35:37] the special page is just not found [10:37:35] theres no php code into the file [10:37:45] hi timichal [10:37:49] also TimStarling [10:38:04] morning [10:39:21] Werdna, do you know why it's probably unmaintained? Is there something that supercedes it? Is it an unsuitable framework for multimedia uploads? [10:41:18] is it normal that http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SpamRegex/SpamRegex.php?view=log doesnt contain any php code...? [10:41:28] or any of the php files from the extension [10:41:30] BartVB: the person who made it was a GSoC person, and therefore did their 3 months or so and ran off to study again [10:41:32] contains php code [10:41:35] ierpe: you want ?view=markup [10:42:02] ok [10:42:49] TimStarling: I'm doing global user groups (bugs are starting to come in for global rollback, etc), and using them as a pilot for putting an equivalent of $wgGroupPermissions in the db (in this case, permissions assigned to global groups are stored in the db, rather than $wgCentralAuthGroupPermissions) [10:44:50] ok [10:45:01] why when i download the file, i only get the logs and not the php code..? [10:48:33] aa downthemall fucked up [10:54:48] 03(mod) Add pywikipedia to bugzilla.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13772 +comment (10nicdumz) [10:57:21] ierpe: As I said earlier, you need to go to "view=markup" [10:57:29] as its name implies, "view=log" views the log. [10:57:58] yeah i got it now! ^^ i was using DownThemAll, thats why it fucked up [10:58:44] aha [10:58:55] if you want to do that, replace viewvc with svnroot [10:59:46] ok [11:03:13] hello, im searching the script the generate the group by article in http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Suivi_des_liens/Projet:Jeu_vid%C3%A9o/Index [11:04:00] i search it a long time on .js of wikipedi without find it [11:04:07] any body can help me ? [11:04:37] it is in Special:Preferences [11:04:45] lol [11:05:49] "" Utiliser les modifications récentes améliorées (JavaScript) "" [11:06:05] the script himself, not how to disable/enable it [11:07:40] it is partly PHP and partyl in http://fr.wikipedia.org/w/skins-1.5/common/wikibits.js [11:07:55] 03(mod) DPL2's include parameter broken with new parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13677 (10peu) [11:14:01] i want to install the spamregex extension, but it requires wfLoadExtensionMessages, and we are running on wiki 1.10, which doesnt have this function, and we can'T upgrade, because we made too many changes.. [11:14:12] can you upgrade just some functions? [11:17:37] im goin for lunch now, pm me answers if any... thx! [11:17:49] thank stronger ? [11:18:16] look harder ;) [11:18:18] *lock -> look at [11:18:44] :) thx [11:21:12] 03emil * r33470 10/trunk/extensions/ImportFreeImages/ImportFreeImages.php: [11:21:12] Start a session before phpFlickr tries to do this. Important if your MediaWiki [11:21:12] installation uses memecached as a session backend while your php.ini uses [11:21:12] files. [11:26:43] any theory why {{SITENAME}} (and other variables) fail randomly when loading page. They seem only to fail if there is some special unicode char before them. [11:27:06] I have 1.10.2 (comes with Ubuntu 7.10) [11:27:26] there have been similar bug report: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12073 [11:27:40] but memory settings does not seem to fix this issue. [11:29:37] hellu [11:30:21] can someone tell me how to change the menupoints from the navigation [11:30:48] cant find the edit button for navigation [11:36:15] Hey guys! I got a mediawiki 1.12 installation on my server, but i'd like it to use for 2 different wikis ... got an idea how to do that? [11:37:02] vhost wiki.example.com should serve my personal wiki, project.example.com shuld host the public wiki. same installation, two vhosts ... got an idea? [11:37:41] mh but maybe u can tell me where the edit button is for navigation [11:39:08] ninnghizidha: you could put an if statement into LocalSettings.php and include two different config files depending on which virtual host you are using [11:39:27] mh can someone help me too [11:39:39] the menupoints? [11:39:45] mh? [11:39:56] nice idea, cirwin [11:40:02] yeah [11:40:05] [MediaWiki:Sidebar]? [11:40:09] yeah [11:40:20] how do i change it [11:40:24] are you a sysop? [11:40:28] yeah [11:40:40] !sidebar [11:40:40] --mwbot-- To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [11:40:41] go to MediaWiki:Sidebar and click [edit]? [11:41:04] so where is the mediawiki? [11:41:16] everywhere [11:41:27] http://wikiname/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar [11:41:36] ahhaaa [11:41:37] thx [11:41:46] np [11:41:59] didnt know to change urkl [11:42:00] url [11:42:06] o [11:42:06] k [11:42:10] (ok) [11:42:22] cirwin: sure? ツ [11:42:33] just about [11:42:59] nice smiley [11:42:59] yea [11:42:59] cirwin, i find nothing. Can you talk me more about RecentChange? Is PHP do the group by article when JS is supported? [11:43:02] Can I prevent transcluding page from being added to the class the transcluded page belongs to? [11:43:10] only a toggle [11:43:17] ls [11:43:17] bayo___O: the javascript only does the toggle [11:43:29] the PHP moves the recentchanges around [11:43:34] so it is mainly PHP [11:44:11] tale: wrap [[Category:Don't transclude this]] [11:44:15] hooo :D not nice for me, but very clean job [11:52:40] Hey everybody, I'm trying to set up my mediawiki installation for short URLs, but my host admin says he can't set an alias to the index.php file - only to the folder. Do anyone know how to work around this? [11:53:05] The host is Apache. [11:53:05] get him to set it to /w/index.php/ and treat index.php as a directory [11:54:33] Ok, so what's the difference, specifically? Only the added '/' at the end or is there some other setting that makes the server treat index.php as a directory? Sorry if that's a stupid question, I know zip about Apache... [11:55:02] I dunno, it "just works" [11:55:12] try visiting it in your browser [11:55:19] w/index.php/Main_page [11:55:54] Ok, will try. Thanks! [11:58:56] hello [11:59:30] hello [12:00:06] mh to change the logo it says i need to change localsetting.php [12:00:12] so i need to write [12:00:38] $wgLogo = "http://www.wikipedia.org/babum.jpg" [12:00:42] something like that [12:02:10] 03raymond * r33471 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Lets define all default usergroups for i18n purposes [12:05:03] cirwin: Simple. Much thanks. [12:06:14] leconcrete: Add semicolon to end of line. [12:11:52] Hello! I'm developing an extension and I want to put it on the SVN. Is it possible? [12:14:09] MGrab: you need commit access, but I don't know how to get it [12:15:28] MGrab: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Commit_access [12:18:04] it's step 1 that's the hard one though ;( [12:26:26] 03(mod) Enable subpages for Hebrew Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13695 (10dovijacobs) [12:29:41] 03(mod) Special page to list missing files - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6220 (1065s.mg) [12:30:08] $wgLogo = "http://www.wikipedia.org/babum.jpg" [12:30:10] is that right? [12:30:25] leconcrete: try it and see ;) [12:30:39] and where do i need to put it in? [12:30:46] LocalSettings.php [12:30:57] in line 127? [12:31:01] 03rotem * r33472 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Update for he. [12:31:06] umm, anywhere [12:33:09] leconcrete: It is not right. As I already wrote, you need to add semicolon to end of line. [12:33:56] mh [12:34:29] ah thx very much [12:58:33] 03catrope * r33473 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQueryInfo.php): (bug 13768) Handling case-insensitivity of pt_title in prop=info [12:59:01] what is the reasoning behind disallowing - or could/should it be allowed? [12:59:42] 03(FIXED) api prop=info doesn't show create protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13768 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [13:04:01] is it possible to upgrade only a couple of functions? [13:04:08] and not a whole version? [13:04:41] ierpe: did you get mediawiki over svn? [13:05:00] because you may be able to merge your changes in [13:05:05] thoguh it might take a while [13:05:11] hmm i didnt get it, i joined a project [13:05:14] a dev team [13:05:18] ok [13:05:19] that was running a 1.10 [13:05:26] that is running a 1.10 [13:05:32] :) [13:05:36] but we made too many changes now to just upgrade [13:05:40] ok [13:06:04] but i want to install this extension, spamregex, and it requires $wgExtensionMessagesFiles [13:06:06] well you could try checking out the current mediawiki to a seperate directory and copying the neccessary stuff accross [13:06:09] which is not in 1.10 [13:06:20] yeah thats what i want to do [13:06:22] but [13:06:27] slow process [13:06:35] yeah and dodgy [13:06:38] how different is the local copy? [13:06:46] 10% 50% ? [13:07:04] hmm [13:07:07] i couldnt say [13:07:10] 30% maybe [13:07:18] but we modified vital files [13:07:36] so we really cant upgrade like that [13:07:38] time to start again and modify it backwardly compatibly ;) [13:07:44] lol noway [13:07:49] months of work! ;) [13:07:59] in which case you'll have to do it manually [13:08:09] yeah [13:08:18] thats what ill do [13:08:22] but it takes time :p [13:08:24] *ialex wawes to Jack_Phoenix [13:08:51] *Jack_Phoenix waves to ialex :-D [13:10:06] *cirwin refields his question about [13:10:34] is there a reason to dissallow it, or can it just be added to 'recognised' list? [13:14:03] 03ialex * r33474 10/trunk/phase3/includes/User.php: Remove unused global declaration of $wgCookiePrefix in User::clearCookie() [13:21:09] 03(NEW) Spam filter malfunction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13775 major; normal; Wikimedia: OTRS; (scream) [13:23:13] 03(mod) Spam filter malfunction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13775 +comment (10scream) [13:53:41] k im trying to update a couple of function from a 1.10 to functions from a 1.12, because i need to install spamregex and we cant upgrade since we modified too much our version [13:53:57] i have this error now: Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in /home/www/projects/sports-wiki.net/sports-wiki.net/includes/MessageCache.php on line 678 [13:54:11] and i dont understand why [13:54:13] :p [13:54:57] ierpe: on 1.10 or 1.12 ? [13:55:07] because it should be in object context [13:55:27] im on 1.10 [13:55:34] and i need a couple of function from the 1.12 [13:55:57] in fact i need the new function to load the extensions messages [13:56:26] and so i updated globalfunctions.php, defaultsettings and massagecache [13:56:30] message* [13:56:38] but now i have this error [13:56:39] I'd suggest merging all changes from your 1.10 to the new 1.12 codebase [13:56:41] Can see what's on *your* mind. [13:56:51] would be the easiest, imho [13:56:56] hmm [13:58:39] but its nots like an easy task.... we modified so many stuff [13:58:58] ierpe: you get that fatal error if you call a method with MessageCache::addMessages() but you have to call it like $wgMessageCache->addMessages() [13:59:17] no its called like $wgMessageCache->addMessages() [14:00:40] i get the fatal error in if ( $this->mAllMessagesLoaded ) [14:01:29] which shouldnt happen since im in the file [14:02:13] if 1.10, MessageCache::loadAllMessages() is marked as static (and i think it's called staticly), but not in 1.12 [14:02:36] and so? [14:02:52] do yuo think i should declare it static [14:02:54] ? [14:03:18] ierpe: you'll also get that fatal error [14:04:01] what i dont understand is its a class attribute.. its there in the class, so why do i get this error [14:05:50] because you can have static function in a class that can be called like "MessageCache::loadAllMessages();" [14:07:37] 03ialex * r33475 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuthHooks.php: E_NOTICE: constant not defined [14:08:20] so do you have an idea for a solution? [14:09:40] i was thinkin that this problem is linked to the messaging [14:09:49] so maybe if i rewrite it the old way [14:10:07] and import the messages like in the 1.10, it might work [14:10:35] try this: http://rafb.net/p/1qSgXC52.html [14:10:58] 03mkroetzsch * r33476 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (8 files in 3 dirs): more use of new infolink architecture, preserve printout style for further result links [14:11:04] so i replace the funtcion in messagecache [14:11:33] yes [14:11:52] and expect there's no syntax error ^^ [14:11:55] woot [14:11:58] :D [14:12:53] its working [14:13:25] thx man [14:16:35] lol this website is cool [14:16:39] rafb [14:21:24] 03mkroetzsch * r33477 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (2 files in 2 dirs): minro fixes [14:23:27] What sort of things do the extensions let you do? [14:24:33] jc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Math [14:26:18] cirwin, thanks. So it's just text, basically. Are there any extensions that allow summing a column in a table, like a very primitive spreadsheet function? [14:26:25] 14(INVALID) Deleting global accounts creates unrenamable local accounts. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13767 +comment (10thogol) [14:26:38] Basically, I have some HTML tables with costs in them, and I'd like to add totals at the bottom, without having to update the total manualy. [14:27:38] I don't know, have a look http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Matrix [14:30:28] So, I just upgraded from 1.8.1 to 1.12, and now at least two pages don't render; They contain very long tables; any ideas? [14:31:16] I'm having trouble with uploads. I enabled uploads, but after i attempt to upload a file, my file page doesnt show the picture. Even stranger is that I set up the thumbnail maker and can view the thumbnail (thumb.php?f=FILENAME.jpg) but the image link doesn't work. [14:33:35] Would using $wgParserConf['preprocessorClass'] = 'Preprocessor_Hash'; change the length of pages I can render? [14:37:44] Ktron, no. [14:37:58] Ktron, it might be that there's an issue with the "sortable tables" JavaScript, but it seems unlikely. [14:39:15] Simetrical, so I was running out of memory [14:39:35] Simetrical, and now I'm hitting the max execution time with Preprocessor_Hash.php [14:40:30] Ktron, you may need to increase your memory limit. [14:40:39] I did, to 200M [14:40:44] and it timed out [14:40:49] Hmm. [14:40:53] How big are we talking? [14:41:08] so I'm going to add set_time_limit(120) or such to LocalSettings.php... Hold on, let me check [14:41:49] Simetrical, little over 1000 lines, pretty all in the same table [14:42:19] 03aaron * r33478 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (archives/patch-user_timestamp.sql tables.sql updaters.inc): Add user_timestamp for diff since last view for new messages. [14:43:01] Simetrical, http://ktron.pastecode.com/?show=d74b24f81 [14:44:09] Simetrical, and just under 500 lines, also one huge table: http://ktron.pastecode.com/?show=d3ca7869a [14:45:26] Could you check the source code for an HTML comment "NewPP limit report" and paste that? It should include various metrics about how large the page is as far as the parser is concerned. [14:45:36] Simetrical, hit the maximum execution time of 120 seconds with Preprocessor_Hash.php too [14:45:45] Oh, right, it won't work, you can't. :) [14:46:01] Simetrical, wait, what? [14:46:08] Never mind, if it won't render that doesn't help. [14:46:19] Simetrical, yeah, blank screens [14:46:23] The new parser should be faster than the old one, not slower. At least that's what Wikimedia testing has shown. [14:46:29] So I don't know. [14:46:49] Simetrical, Preprocessor_Hash.php I don't think is the new one, is it? I had to add and override to make it work [14:47:01] Because FC6 wasn't nice enough to include all the libraries [14:47:10] so, there's a limit to how much inclusion you can have -- is there also a limit for how many later of inclusion you can have/ [14:47:12] Hmm, I see. [14:47:14] + array('search' => wfMsg('searchrelated').':'.$t->getPrefixedText(), [14:47:27] + $related = ' -- '. [14:47:30] Wikimedia uses Preprocessor_DOM, that might be faster. [14:48:01] why in earth there is translation data in search=x value in a link?! [14:48:16] If you have root access, installing the DOM library and switching to Preprocessor_DOM might speed things up a lot. Or not. [14:48:18] Simetrical, I couldn't use that because I didn't have the php library with the DOMDocument class installed [14:48:21] Right. [14:48:34] Even though the PHP documentation says it's a core part of the software. [14:48:37] Which tricked us. :( [14:48:40] 03aaron * r33479 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (3 files): Remove temp $wgAllowLogDeletion var [14:48:40] Simetrical, I do have root access, I tried yum install php-dom and it didn't work [14:48:47] Simetrical, I'll look around for it [14:48:53] You got an error or what? [14:50:32] Nikerabbit: it's an optional prefix, like site: on google [14:52:53] Ktron, sudo yum install php-xml worked for me on RHEL5. [14:53:29] xcuse me a question how can i put in the small boxes with a picture and information? [14:53:32] Nikerabbit, I figured it's a good idea if we could localize those prefixes as well (along with english) [14:54:25] i added regexblock and spamregex extensions, its working on the english side but not on the other languages, any idea why? [14:54:34] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dante [14:54:39] rainman-sr: does it work in users preferred interface language? [14:54:42] something like this [14:55:07] 03aaron * r33480 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/tables.sql: Fix description [14:55:46] mj [14:56:03] help :) [14:56:50] Nikerabbit, good point. I'll investigate [14:57:00] leconcrete: steal templates from wikipedia [14:57:12] ah hi cirwin [14:57:14] how do u do that? [14:57:27] well it depends what you mean [14:57:36] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dante [14:57:39] for example that one [14:57:42] the top one? [14:57:44] or all the others? [14:57:45] yeah [14:57:56] the top one with a title bar and description [14:58:10] well [edit] that page tells me that it is useing template {{Infobox Write [14:58:21] so go look at Wikipedia's Template:infobox writer [14:58:25] and see what code they use [14:58:37] providing you give them attribution you are allowed to steal it under GFDL [14:58:40] :) [14:58:48] i added regexblock and spamregex extensions, its working on the english side but not on the other languages, any idea why? [14:59:22] ah i see [14:59:24] thank u cirwin [14:59:27] u are a great help :) [14:59:34] its ok i solved it.. :p [14:59:39] *cirwin is trying to avoid doing proper work ;) [15:01:46] ah cirwin one question :) [15:01:51] AaronSchulz: you added with http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php?view=diff&r1=31721&r2=31722 the message 'cannotdelete-merge' but this is not defined and since yesterday it appears from time to time on de.wp [15:02:04] what about adding pics can i only use hyperlink [15:02:04] leconcrete: ? [15:02:10] or is there a other solution [15:02:13] something like drag and drop [15:02:16] functions [15:02:25] without putting the image into webspace first [15:02:29] I dunno [15:02:33] there is probably an extensions [15:02:43] where do i get these extensions? [15:02:57] i know i am asking too much :) [15:03:22] www.medaiwiki.org/wiki/Extension Matrix [15:03:24] ah wait [15:03:25] yeah [15:03:30] _ [15:03:38] doesnt work -_- [15:03:52] http://www.medaiwiki.org/wiki/Extension%20Matrix? [15:03:53] 03aaron * r33481 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: Remove unused message [15:03:53] http://www.medaiwiki.org/wiki/Extension%20Matrix [15:03:57] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix [15:04:00] I mistyped ;) [15:04:02] \o/ [15:04:43] http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200804/errord/captcha_huh.png <-- lol? [15:04:43] lets see gonna try to install it :) [15:05:12] 03mkroetzsch * r33482 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/SearchTriple/ (SMW_SpecialBrowse.php SMW_SpecialSearchByProperty.php): fixes for parameter evaluation [15:05:24] 03mkroetzsch * r33483 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/AskSpecial/SMW_SpecialAsk.php: show proper HTML title [15:06:00] 03mkroetzsch * r33484 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_QP_List.php: Use
        for formatting list-based search pages [15:06:36] 03mkroetzsch * r33485 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_Infolink.php: really minor change [15:08:29] this are way too many extensions -_- [15:08:54] yes, search! [15:09:15] i am :) [15:09:54] Mike_lifeguard: yes [15:10:17] yes?! [15:10:40] would you mind looking at my regex? I got it to stop page creations, but it wouldn't stop uploads of a file named exactly the same [15:11:05] I wouldn't [15:11:22] Thanks: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Titleblacklist&action=history [15:11:36] I tried lots of stuff, as you can see :D [15:11:49] Wow [15:11:56] 03rainman * r33486 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (SearchEngine.php SpecialSearch.php): Use content language for search prefixes. [15:12:00] I've done it [15:12:04] Copy from testwiki [15:12:25] Image:(CIMG|IMGP?|PICT|DSC[FN]?|DUW|JD|MGP)?[0-9 \-]+\..* [15:12:36] http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Senselessimagename [15:12:55] VasilievVV, ls2.wikimedia.org [15:13:12] hmm... ok and I'll just add some more prefixes... [15:13:36] 03rainman * r33487 10/trunk/extensions/MWSearch/MWSearch.php: Use content languages when parsing search prefixes. [15:13:37] rainman-sr: wow. thanks [15:13:40] Nikerabbit, does that look better? [15:14:07] http://ls2.wikimedia.org/search?dbname=ruwiki&query=%D0%A5%D1%83%D0%B9%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B3&ns0=1 [15:14:24] http://www.tinymicros.com/wiki/Wang_Nixie_Display_Board_Pins Why is this basic table trying to insert a caption? I have a number of other tables all in the same format that aren't doing this. [15:14:29] Simetrical, I just installed php-xml and removed that line from LocalSettings.php and retried it quickly, and still got the DOMDocument error [15:14:34] When linking to (redirect Хуйберг), may you add &redirect=no? [15:14:45] Simetrical, maybe I need to touch up php.ini too [15:14:48] Ktron, you need to restart your web server, probably. [15:14:56] Simetrical, ah [15:14:57] http://www.tinymicros.com/wiki/EDR_MSP430_Programming_Adapter Such as this one. [15:15:14] VasilievVV, hmm, okay [15:15:15] Generally all PHP config changes require a web server restart. [15:15:19] Or fcgi restart or whatever. [15:15:50] jc: the |+ goes to caption [15:15:58] change |+250 -> | +250 [15:16:14] Ah. I didn't catch it down there. [15:16:29] But that's still a bug. The docs say that should only interpreted on the first row. [15:16:52] |+ table caption, optional; only one per table and between table start and first row [15:17:09] jc: file a bug report then ;) [15:18:23] AaronSchulz: ping [15:18:46] Simetrical, I'll have to wait to do that during lunch [15:19:12] I have a lot of errors trying to find spellcheck/spellcheck.php ; was that depreciated? [15:19:35] rainman-sr: at least it should work now [15:19:43] spellcheck? I've never heard of it. [15:19:46] Maybe an extension? [15:20:16] Simetrical, its part of LocalSettings.php; spellcheck/spellcheck.php [15:20:25] Simetrical, maybe it is [15:20:31] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Spellcheck [15:21:24] Ah... commented out [15:21:59] Nikerabbit, it worked before as well, it was just kind of weird, and the link wouldn't work if you would give it to someone else [15:24:26] indeed [15:30:38] 03(FIXED) Spam filter malfunction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13775 +comment (10jeluf) [15:34:36] Hi, I have an old mediawiki and I'm installing a 1.12 on a new server. Is there a way to migrate just the data or should I first upgrade my old 1.8 to 1.12 and then move the data to the other server? [15:35:43] Mauro__, it doesn't matter. Just run the update.php script at some point after you upgrade the software; that will update the database. [15:35:53] ok thanks! [15:36:09] Mauro__: But do take backups before you update. [15:36:15] sure I will [15:38:39] 03greg * r33488 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SearchEngine.php): Escape forward slashes in search terms, otherwise PHP thinks the regex has ended and starts treating the rest of the characters in the string as PCRE modifiers. [15:40:29] who speak german ? [15:41:09] Hi [15:41:31] ja1 speak you german ? [15:41:39] nop :( [15:42:04] i need you help guys [15:42:32] http://mat.dein.cl/mediawiki-1.12.0/index.php/Matem%C3%A1ticas_Elementales [15:42:40] i am using latex fot math [15:43:02] but only when me click in "preview page" they show good [15:43:27] who speak german ? [15:44:10] for example go to http://mat.dein.cl/mediawiki-1.12.0/index.php/Matem%C3%A1ticas_Elementales and click in edit -> show preview [15:44:14] WikiziA84: sorry :( [15:45:15] WikiziA84 you english no it's good ? [15:45:58] come on guys try to help me plz [15:46:03] ja1: no idae [15:46:54] okey [15:47:04] it seems to be something to do with the second expressiion [15:47:11] i am looking, maybe it's a bug of version [15:47:24] sorry for my very bad english [15:48:31] ja1: it is using the wrong image path [15:48:33] in the entry [15:48:52] ciwin [15:48:53] you need to add a / to the front of wherever that path is set [15:49:02] cirwin: [15:49:11] you can help me to fix [15:49:16] i am really newbie [15:49:39] you need to add a / to the front of wherever that path is set <-- only say that in more simple words [15:53:14] why is it that firefox can have 50+ tabs open for days without leaking memory, but i open one window in IE6 for a few hours and it steals everything [15:53:15] Simetrical: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alex_Smotrov/mw/sortable [15:53:54] AlexSm, I'd be happy to look next week. [15:53:58] ok [15:54:25] ja1: In the HTML code the image link reads src="1/f/c/2/fc21b7761f66b49ce5f5ac291fbf8f6e.png" [15:54:39] cirwin: update on IE8, maybe it's better? ;) [15:54:43] That does not work because it should start with /-character. [15:54:52] ja1: That does not work because it should start with /-character. [15:55:00] Dude... I have 4 tabs open in Firefox, and it's got 230MB snarfed. [15:55:20] Invasion of the Memory Snarfers. [15:55:22] jc, Fx3 is better about that. [15:55:27] I'm hoping so. [15:56:09] I've also been unhappy with it's stability under Linux, lately. Sometimes it just crashes. I think there's a way to turn on tracing, but it may only be in the nightly builds. Which I'm not doing. [15:56:30] Other than eating memory like crazy, it's very stable under Windoze. [15:56:55] Luxo: its not availablr for linux yet [15:57:25] o_O IE6 is available for linux? [15:57:51] http://www.tatanka.com.br/ [15:58:13] its, if you can imagine it, even buggier than under windows ;) [15:58:17] with ie8 css is better but DOM/JS-things are not a lot better than ie7. [15:59:23] cirwin: buggier than under windows? I don't know thats possible :P [16:00:02] 03simetrical * r33489 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SearchEngine.php): The problem also applies to all the other regex special chars: try it out with ., |, etc. Use preg_quote(). [16:00:37] IE8 is still beta, don't hate so much till the final version comes out. [16:01:27] all hail IE6 the most successful browser ever [16:01:42] *cirwin runs away [16:02:51] ja1: Were you satisfied with answers you got? [16:06:36] firefox 1 leaked a good bit [16:06:41] firefox 2 still does a little [16:06:51] Firefox 3 I haven't noticed it leaking [16:07:51] Firefox 4 actually increases your total system memory AND doesn't leak [16:08:21] And has JIT-compiled JavaScript! [16:09:12] tale: ja1: Were you satisfied with answers you got? <- no really [16:09:26] 03tstarling * r33490 10/trunk/extensions/transliterate/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Basic interface to the ICU text transformation/transliteration service. [16:09:33] you can give a best answer? [16:09:53] ja1: What language do you speak? [16:11:00] spanish [16:13:59] ja1: You need to find spanish speaking channel or some other way to get your answers in spanish. [16:16:21] okey [16:17:20] I seem to have a problem with $IP not being set properly. I'm not sure where or how this is set. Help? [16:18:16] RobotGuy: In Localsettins.php [16:18:25] RobotGuy: In Localsettings.php [16:18:54] tale: I know where it should be, but do I have to set it directly or is it set by another variable? [16:19:22] RobotGuy: How is it given a value in your Localsettings.php? [16:20:01] tale: I don't know. That's what I am trying to find out. [16:20:22] I just copied the default file and made changes for my site [16:20:34] Anyone know of an extention that makes a page and automatically updates it with links to new pages created, and then after lets say 30 days removes the like as the page is no longer new? [16:21:47] MadFrenchie: like a replacement to Special:NewPages? but why? [16:22:17] RobotGuy: You are sure your Localsettings.php does not contain an assignment to $IP? [16:22:36] RobotGuy, normally when you install the software, LocalSettings.php should be automatically generated with correct values. [16:22:46] Im looking for something a bit more clean.. that only shows the page links [16:22:51] tale: If it was in the Default file, it's in my LocalSettings file. I can't find an assignment. [16:22:51] RobotGuy, you might try pasting the file (minus DB login/password) here for us to look at. [16:23:03] MadFrenchie, you want Special:NewPages? [16:23:06] id like it to lets say mirror the look of a category page.. where the links are just listed in alphabetical order [16:23:09] MadFrenchie, that's part of the core software. [16:23:21] Although it's sorted by date, not alphabetically. [16:23:27] Simentrical, i know, but i m looking for something a bit cleaner, that only shows the links, not all the updated information [16:23:59] Can somebody please just tell me how $IP is supposed to be set? [16:24:07] MadFrenchie: Would Dynamic Page List extension do what you want? [16:24:26] RobotGuy: It is set in the Localsettings.php that the installer creates. [16:24:57] does that automatically add a link to newly created pages, and remove the link lets say 30 days later [16:25:16] tale: Shouldn't be in the default file also? [16:25:33] RobotGuy: What default file? Did you install mediawiki properly? [16:26:10] tale: DefaultSettings.php [16:26:18] MadFrenchie: Maybe it can be configured to do that. At least you can get links to N latest pages in a gategory. [16:26:41] alright.. thank you for the help... I will look into that extention and see if i can make it work the way I want ;) [16:27:01] my last question, is... is there an extention or way to get Visio files displayed on a wiki page... [16:27:17] MadFrenchie: Search in the Extension Matrix. [16:27:40] tale: I copied the DefaultSettings.php to LocalSettings.php and then made changes for my site. [16:28:21] thank you for your help gusy [16:28:22] guys [16:29:07] RobotGuy: Did you copy the LocalSettings.php that the installer created in the config subdirectory? [16:29:22] tale: No. I told you what I did. [16:29:45] RobotGuy: Well, that explains why you do not get a value for $IP. [16:30:07] tale: There is no LocalSettings.php the config dir [16:30:08] Why do you use the DefaultSetting.php for anything? [16:30:22] RobotGuy: Then the installation has failed. [16:30:31] Do *not* just copy DefaultSettings.php. That's a bad idea. [16:30:39] There are various things that don't get set there at all. [16:30:40] RobotGuy: Remedy that and then your problems go away. [16:30:41] tale: Docs say to not change DefaultSettings.php but to change LocalSettings.php [16:30:52] LocalSettings.php will be auto-generated during installation. [16:30:52] RobotGuy: Then the installation has failed. [16:30:59] I'll have to reinstall then. ;( [16:31:06] RobotGuy: Install again with write permissions to config directory. [16:31:16] And pay attentioin what messages the installer gives to you. [16:51:37] 03vrandezo * r33491 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Added DTStamp and Sequence to iCalendar export for proper versioning. Added iCalendar export as a proper part of SMW. [16:53:51] Tale, I checked all the extentions and searched on google after and have not found anything about getting a visio document to display on MediaWiki [16:53:56] any other ideas [17:02:05] Simetrical: Thanks for the preg_quote followup. [17:07:28] 03aaron * r33492 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Form tweaks [17:07:30] Hello, is it a possible to create a new page in mediawiki based on a template? (empty, that is) [17:07:54] say I want to create a new page and already have the code of the template in it, so I can just fill it out [17:07:58] yes [17:08:07] use ?preload=templatename [17:08:10] on the edit url [17:08:41] 03(NEW) Images which are too small too need thumbnailing are repeatedly purged from Squid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13776 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (tom) [17:09:16] 03(mod) Images which are too small too need thumbnailing are repeatedly purged from Squid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13776 (10tom) [17:09:40] ah great, thanks [17:09:59] kaos_nk: "templatename" in this case is full page name; and check http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Inputbox for more info [17:10:18] Anyone available to review this patch for sitemap namespace limitation? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=4606 [17:10:26] Thanks, AlexSm [17:10:53] this practically means that I have to create a new page with an example of usage of the template, without values [17:11:16] Hi, does someone know whre I can found help or tuto about mediawiki Group & private section management ? [17:11:38] (i'm admin of a mediawiki) [17:11:52] does it need extension ? [17:12:40] Sylvio: yes it does [17:12:50] ok thx I will take a look so [17:12:56] to extensions [17:13:37] kaos_nk: yes, "preload" parameter is not very "dynamic" in this sense; however, you could use {{subst:PAGENAME}} kind of tricks on the preload template code [17:14:18] !userrights | Sylvio [17:14:18] --mwbot-- Sylvio: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [17:14:38] thanks [17:16:39] 03(NEW) SquidUpdate blocks for a long time on the first URL it is given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13777 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (tom) [17:19:47] 03aaron * r33493 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Use
        instead [17:22:39] 03vrandezo * r33494 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/AskSpecial/SMW_SpecialICalendar.php: Added correct MIME type [17:23:46] I thought 1.12 had action=edit in the API?? [17:26:08] !wg EnableApiEdit | AphelionZ [17:26:08] --mwbot-- AphelionZ: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgEnableApiEdit [17:26:19] or ApiEditEnabled [17:26:21] one of them [17:26:24] MinuteElectron: i did that already :p [17:26:37] but i just looked and it looks like they moved it to 1.13 [17:27:11] 03raymond * r33495 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [17:27:11] * Tweaks for sections date/time and search of SpecialPreferences: [17:27:11] ** Fix aligning for RTL wikis: Use existing CSS classes [17:27:11] ** Move hardcoded superscript number 1 into 'timezonetext' message. The counterpart is in 'timezoneoffset' since ages. [17:27:11] ** Use XML functions for these sections [17:31:16] Idly, I wonder. [17:31:29] I just want to make a ==header== ===subheader=== '''bold''' etc. file I have render nicely. Is there a standalone mediawiki-to-html thing? [17:31:36] 03tlaqua * r33496 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionScores/ (ContributionScores.php ContributionScores_body.php): [17:31:36] * Added wg prefix to globals [17:31:36] * Added $wgContribScoreIgnoreBlockedUsers option [17:36:37] 03(mod) Pseudo-namespace on Korean Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13617 +comment (10jeluf) [17:36:52] AlexSM, can I use css to modify the look the searchbox in mediawiki? [17:37:21] kaos_nk: sure, why not [17:37:24] oh, just got it [17:37:33] it didn't work before, but I forget to empty the cache [17:37:36] forgot* [17:37:41] 03(NEW) Hitting 'enter' in Special:Search fields does a 'go' search instead of fulltext in Internet Exporer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13778 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Search; (brion) [17:37:49] 03(mod) Internet Explorer (IE) issues on Windows (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=640 (10brion) [17:39:42] kaos_nk: I even use CSS to make search box bigger on focus, for convenience [17:40:41] heh [17:46:13] hi at all [17:46:36] anyone can help me? [17:46:44] !ask | loop_ [17:46:44] --mwbot-- loop_: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [17:46:44] 03minuteelectron * r33497 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Normalising comment spacing. [17:46:51] hello [17:47:32] ok sorry [17:47:34] MinuteElectron [17:47:39] then [17:47:58] I must set a link in my wiki to redirect on my homepage of the site [17:48:09] anyone can help me? [17:48:34] in the article pages? or elsewhere? [17:49:33] in left menu I set a link thet redirect user on homepage site [17:50:23] cirwin you understand my problem? [17:50:37] I think so [17:51:03] ok [17:51:06] :D [17:51:08] + $form .= "

        " . wfMsgHtml( 'revreview-notes' ) . "

        \n"; [17:51:15] doesn't look very valid [17:51:23] :( [17:52:05] loop_: I'm not sure that I can help though [17:52:15] AaronSchulz: could you also use "
        " instead of
        :o [17:52:25] Meh, you should avoid
        anyway. [17:52:33] 95% of the time it would be done better with CSS. [17:52:40] Or just using block-level instead of inline elements. [17:52:43] *amidaniel growls at Simetrical [17:52:49] can I somehow remove the logo, and let the menu begin at the top of the page? (without changing the monobook skin code) [17:53:14] ok cirwin thanks the same [17:53:29] Raymond_: did for forgot to close one fieldset? [17:53:45] Nikerabbit: I asumme not... where? [17:54:07] Raymond_: oh sorry, misread the code :) [17:54:11] np :) [17:54:46] $checked = ( $key == $this->mDate ) ? true : false; looks a bit redudant [17:55:39] anyone know how I can resolve my problem? [17:56:57] I actually use 'absolvere' for 'pay' today in the test [17:56:59] used* [17:57:24] 03(NEW) include summary attribute in table syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13779 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (cohesion) [17:58:24] 03(mod) include summary attribute in table syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13779 (10cohesion) [18:00:37] Raymond_: Xml::input( 'wpHourDiff', 6, $this->mHourDiff, array( 'class' => 'wpHourDiff' ) ) ) . [18:00:43] shouldn't that id id instead of class? [18:02:17] 03minuteelectron * r33498 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/DefaultSettings.php maintenance/generateSitemap.php): [18:02:17] Slightly modified version of attachment 4606 by Sergey Chernyshev, fixes bug 12860 and adds a new configuration variable $wgSitemapNamespaces to [18:02:17] allow specification of which namespaces a sitemap will be generated for. Defaults to false, indicating all namespaces should have a sitemap generated [18:02:19] for them. [18:02:19] Nikerabbit: baaah.. right. thanks- [18:02:36] can I create a link that brings me an random article from a given kategory? [18:02:45] hmm, nano isn't a very good text editor. [18:03:02] what's wrong with it? it gets the job done? [18:03:45] though you probably gonna want to use vi if you have issues with nano [18:04:04] I want to add a motd display at the top of every page. what's the least hacky way to do that? I would want it to show up in all layouts. [18:04:22] kaos_nk: Look at my commit message, it adds the line endings in based upon my screen size - I expected it to just not add them if I didn't specify any. [18:04:44] Nikerabbit: any more? [18:04:44] I would think there would a an include or variable I could touch someplace, but I have not found one yet. [18:05:13] !AuthPlugin [18:05:13] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin [18:05:13] ah [18:05:30] TimRiker: edit mediaWiki:sitenotice [18:05:54] MinuteElectron: ah! checking that out. thx. [18:06:11] 03(FIXED) Limiting sitemap items by namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12860 +comment (10minuteelectron) [18:07:58] 03tlaqua * r33499 10/trunk/extensions/UserMerge/UserMerge_body.php: * Changed user_newtalk delete clause from user_ip to user_id (typo) [18:08:04] 03(mod) Patch for an adaptive rating form for better usability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13744 (10arnomane) [18:09:12] 03(mod) Patch for an adaptive rating form for better usability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13744 +comment (10arnomane) [18:12:20] I'm working on an AuthPlugin for vBulletin; going through the docs, source, and other example codes I see that "modifyUITemplate( &$template )" is overidden [18:12:40] is it necessary to override this function? [18:13:20] what example are you looking at? [18:13:37] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SMF_Authentication [18:13:47] SMF is another forum software [18:14:08] 03minuteelectron * r33500 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/generateSitemap.php: Use sitemap.org 0.9 schema instead of Google 0.84 schema. Fixes bug 13527. [18:14:28] 03(FIXED) use non-proprietary sitemap schema - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13527 +comment (10minuteelectron) [18:15:08] blue_asterisk, only if you want to modify the default options [18:15:16] 03nikerabbit * r33501 10/trunk/phase3/skins/modern/main.css: * Improve styles for prefences [18:15:19] Raymond_: nope, but it got me to commit that one [18:15:23] 03raymond * r33502 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialPreferences.php: Fix error from r33495: class -> id. Thanks to Nikerabbit. [18:15:33] TimLaqua: that what I thought [18:15:49] however my code is not working, hehe [18:16:47] MinuteElectron: exactly what I was after! thx! [18:18:45] blue_asterisk, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VBulletin/Users_Integration [18:18:59] TimLaqua: I am aware of this yes [18:19:35] it's actually what I'm starting from; I have to apply some modifications from it [18:23:41] 03simetrical * r33503 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Remember to update RELEASE-NOTES! [18:23:59] *Simetrical frowns at MinuteElectron [18:24:08] *brion should get a tattoo "RELEASE-NOTES OR DIE" [18:24:31] :D [18:24:48] brion, it needs to be an e-tattoo, or we couldn't see it. [18:24:53] hey brion - how's things (other than release-notes)? ;-) [18:25:33] busy busy busy [18:26:56] hello [18:28:46] Simetrical: sorry [18:28:56] will rememver next time [18:29:02] Good. [18:29:05] *Simetrical sharpens axe [18:29:13] i did fix two bugs though! [18:29:50] yay [18:30:02] =P [18:30:20] can someone help me? [18:30:41] leconcrete: Some clairvoyant maybe? [18:30:47] ? [18:30:56] ehm its about that i tried to install the [18:31:05] calender from barrylb [18:31:10] and i get this error message [18:31:16] hey [18:31:16] Warning: require_once(extensions/Calendar.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/www/vhosts/cyborn.org/httpdocs/wiki/LocalSettings.php on line 129 [18:31:16] Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required 'extensions/Calendar.php' (include_path='/var/www/vhosts/cyborn.org/httpdocs/wiki:/var/www/vhosts/cyborn.org/httpdocs/wiki/includes:/var/www/vhosts/cyborn.org/httpdocs/wiki/languages:.:') in /var/www/vhosts/cyborn.org/httpdocs/wiki/LocalSettings.php on line 129 [18:31:23] ups [18:31:24] :) [18:31:38] does anybody know how to show latest wiki entries on main page? [18:31:48] leconcrete: What is in directory extensions ? [18:32:14] leconcrete: Perhaps you failed to copy the calendar extension there? [18:32:22] mh [18:32:24] u mean the php [18:32:25] i did [18:32:36] Windows or Linux? [18:32:40] leconcrete: What is in directory extensions? Show the dir listing in pastebin. [18:32:42] Hatschi: there's a "recent changes" RSS feed you can put on your front page [18:32:42] leconcrete, you didn't. It's not there. [18:32:43] oh hit, I forgot to update wgStyleVersion.. [18:32:47] jc, look at the paths, it's not Windows. [18:32:52] leconcrete, that's what the error means. [18:33:05] OK, fair point on the path. [18:33:13] I was going to suggest he check the permissions on it. [18:33:34] It's giving a does-not-exist error, not a permissions error, so first I'd check that it really exists. [18:33:37] I'm betting it doesn't. [18:33:47] It's better to first check the file is there. If it is, the permissions can be checked. [18:34:14] Wait, eh? [18:34:21] i wrote u a private message [18:34:29] leconcrete, well, anyway, the Calendar extension is not officially maintained. [18:34:39] Is it? [18:34:51] mh it got a weird error now [18:34:52] --- [18:34:55] Which one are you using? [18:35:02] I used Calendar by barrylb, it works on 1.11 and 1.12. [18:35:03] @14blue_asterisk01 have you got a link? [18:35:20] It seems like Calendar.php is getting loaded correctly, but then it's getting confused trying to load something else. [18:35:24] It looks like a bug in the extension. [18:35:28] You should ask the author. [18:35:32] mh [18:35:33] oki [18:35:54] Of course, everyone in every support channel in the world likes to blame someone else if possible. ;) [18:36:10] But I can't see why it would try loading extensions/includes/DefaultSettings.php, unless it's meant to be an entry point. [18:36:19] Maybe it's supposed to be in wiki/, not wiki/extensions/. [18:36:20] I dunno. [18:36:30] uhm [18:36:37] Hatschi: it's on the front page of a default installation, or just look it up in Special Pages; read the docs [18:36:39] leconcrete: Did you install *all* the files in the Calendar extension and followed the installation instructions? [18:37:30] yeah i think i am getting the hang of it [18:37:31] abit :) [18:39:19] now looking for the common.css [18:39:29] is it possible to include a special page into a "normal" wiki page? [18:40:31] sure [18:40:41] Hatschi, depends on which one. [18:41:44] what I would like to have is to see on a page (main page) the last added/edited pages [18:42:07] like at Special:Recent Chagnes [18:42:17] Try {{Special:RecentChanges}} [18:43:26] hm [18:43:32] its just a "link" [18:45:58] 03(mod) sitemap-index doesn't include full location path - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9675 +comment (10minuteelectron) [18:46:20] 03(mod) sitemap-index doesn't include full location path - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9675 +need-review +patch (10minuteelectron) [18:46:39] brion: Are you able to review a patch, or will you get to it in your queue eventually? [18:49:29] if it's not critical, then eventually [18:49:38] but not much free time today [18:50:03] fair enough, it's not urgent [18:50:13] Simetrical: ;) [18:50:53] Hatschi: use an rss reader [18:52:33] 03brion * r33504 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (archives/patch-user_timestamp.sql tables.sql updaters.inc): Revert r33478 for now; I don't much like the field name user_timestamp, it's very unclear. Timestamp may not be ideal to build a diff link with, either. [18:56:18] 03nikerabbit * r33505 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUndelete.php: [18:56:18] * Double-escaping, checkLabel, fixed another label [18:56:18] * Do we really need reset button here? [18:57:55] I just installed 1.12. There are files with .php and .php5. What determines which files are used? I don't see any info in the MW help. [18:58:08] I would like to eliminate unneeded/duplicate files, if possible. [18:58:32] Genki: Is that really important? Why can't you leave them alone. [18:59:03] But anyway, if you web host needs .php5 files to use PHP version 5, then you need them. [18:59:37] If you web host runs PHP5 for both .php and .php5, then you do not need the .php5 ending in file names. [18:59:54] Thank you for the answer. My shared host (GoDaddy) does run PHP v5 and all my other non-MW files ending in .php do work. [19:00:27] Genki, you can just delete the .php5 files if you want. Or just ignore them. [19:00:34] Either way works. [19:01:18] Great. I'm going to create a second virtual wiki (different wiki using the same source code and database) and for the second wiki I want to duplicate only the minimum necessary files. [19:02:27] How is it a different wiki if it uses the same code and DB? [19:02:44] The root for each wiki will be different, so I need to duplicate some of the files, i.e. /wiki1/index.php and /wiki2/index.php [19:02:59] Sim: The wiki will have different TABLES. [19:03:00] In MV 1.12, there are 7 files with .php5 in name. File sized add upp to whopping 350 bytes. [19:03:18] You could do links or rewrites if you want. Or just have a switch in LocalSettings.php that uses a different DB depending on the URL. [19:03:21] However you like. [19:03:39] Tale: Oh, I see. I noticed the .php5 files in the root and figured that they were in all the subdirs, too. [19:03:45] No, only entry points. [19:03:50] They're not needed for the includes. [19:04:16] Gotcha. [19:05:56] Thank you. Bye for now. [19:06:23] 03mkroetzsch * r33506 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_WikiPage.php: fixed Bug11820 as per suggestion of Yaron and S [19:09:31] 03(FIXED) enumerated Property:Page only works for first allows_value - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11820 +comment (10mak) [19:11:15] how do i make a mysql query? [19:11:44] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount [19:11:46] 03mkroetzsch * r33507 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_GlobalFunctions.php: updated version number [19:11:48] 03brion * r33508 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) [19:11:48] * (bug 13768) pt_title field encoding fixed [19:11:48] pt_title field in page_protections was added without a binary marker when used on non-binary schema. [19:11:48] This means you get false matches for ASCII case-insensitive bits, and probably for horribly wrong UTF-8 mish-mashes as well. [19:11:50] Adds an updated to fix the field's encoding to binary, matching all our other title keys, [19:11:52] so you can join and get correct matches. [19:11:54] Revert r33473, which seems to assume that pt_title is supposed to be case-insensitive. [19:11:59] ? [19:13:09] 03(mod) api prop=info doesn't show create protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13768 (10brion) [19:13:24] can someone tell me what a mysql query is [19:13:59] leconcrete: yes. It is a line of SQL commands given to the database engine to run. [19:14:23] Maybe you should search for "MySQL tutorial" online-- you'll get p-l-e-n-t-y of examples! [19:15:22] Simetrical: can I ask you a quick development question, would @set_timeout be permitted instead of plain set_timeout so that safe_mode users don't get annoying errors? [19:15:47] MinuteElectron, maybe. [19:15:52] We use @ sometimes. [19:16:10] indeed [19:16:20] 03(FIXED) Generalize EditPage.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10431 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [19:16:25] Simetrical: so I suppose I should ask someone higher in the chain of command? [19:16:29] 03(mod) Typed links don't work well with interwiki links - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9068 (10mak) [19:16:39] 03nikerabbit * r33509 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialProtectedpages.php: * Clean up a little [19:16:43] 03(ASSIGNED) Typed links don't work well with interwiki links - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9068 (10mak) [19:16:44] MinuteElectron, or do it and see if it gets reverted. [19:17:34] hehe, sounds like a plan. [19:17:41] i guess it wouldn' hurt [19:17:47] 03(mod) Add "show new changes starting from" links to Watchlist and Newpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4903 (10roan.kattouw) [19:17:57] 03(ASSIGNED) Request Category Count feature - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13735 (10roan.kattouw) [19:17:59] 03nikerabbit * r33510 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: * That surely isn't valid [19:18:54] 03ialex * r33511 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/images/cc_meta.svg: svn:eol-style native [19:20:31] ta-dah [19:20:39] 03minuteelectron * r33512 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/commandLine.inc: Supress errors when setting the PHP timeout so output isn't ugly when safe mode is enabled. [19:22:28] 03mkroetzsch * r33513 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/INSTALL: documented (optionally) required DB user rights (Bug 4825) [19:23:31] 03(FIXED) Document needed DB privileges - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13519 +comment (10mak) [19:31:30] now there are more people, I repeat my question [19:32:13] I must set in left menu of hompage wiki a link that redirect user on homepage of my site [19:32:19] anyone can help me? [19:32:53] How file I must edit? [19:35:13] 03vrandezo * r33514 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Corrected a bug with value-set properties in iCalendar queries. Added Location to iCalendar. [19:38:35] loop_: do you mean the sidebar? [19:38:48] that is the page 'MediaWiki:Sidebar' [19:38:49] no [19:38:53] oh :( [19:39:09] I don't understand you then [19:39:12] this is my first time that install wiki [19:39:34] now I go to read MediaWiki sidebar [19:39:55] !sidebar [19:39:55] --mwbot-- To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [19:40:04] tnx [19:41:32] hey folks - I am just having a look at some of the mediawiki docs, thinking about using it. Does MW offer any sort of user level security? I kind of want only registered users to be able to edit the wiki and I would like to have some moderators [19:41:40] I kind of see sysops and everyone else [19:42:02] 03nikerabbit * r33515 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [19:42:02] * Clean up [19:42:02] * Move one unused message to extension [19:43:25] !rights | Wulfram [19:43:25] --mwbot-- Wulfram: For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [19:43:36] heh, it worked! [19:43:42] nice [19:43:43] thanks [19:43:45] *Wulfram reads [19:43:47] :DD [19:45:30] Mike_lifeguard sorry this parameter where I add? often in LocalSetting.php? [19:46:06] to change what appears in the sidebar, you just edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] (requires sysop) [19:46:20] I'm sysop [19:46:33] but where is located sidebar [19:46:40] that's I do not understand [19:49:55] it is a page located at [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] [19:50:17] type 'MediaWiki:Sidebar' into the search box, and go :) [19:51:26] oh thanks a lot Mike_lifeguard [19:51:31] I hope to resolve [19:51:32] :D [19:51:37] thanks thanks [19:51:39] :D [19:52:19] wierd ... Go button now strips valid interwiki prefixes, so meta:Test opens "Test" page, I think it wasn't this way before [19:55:34] I resolved [19:55:47] tnx often Mike_lifeguard [19:55:50] :D [19:56:19] np [19:56:35] AlexSm: I didn't know it did that... we should keep that behaviour if possible :\ [19:56:44] 03ialex * r33516 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/populateParentId.php: This is a bit weired but... Don't throw a MySQL error if revision table is empty [19:56:58] 03mkroetzsch * r33517 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (16 files in 2 dirs): [19:56:58] Check for MW \xf7UNIQ-escapes in input values, throw generic error (added to language files) -- beyond that, [19:56:58] we cannot really handle this case properly in an obvious way. Closes Bug 13474. [19:57:35] 03(FIXED) using nowiki to disable markup in a string property garbles factbox and inline query - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13474 +comment (10mak) [20:07:41] 06(LATER) undocumented ? {blank} for first column in inline queries has some inconsistencies - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13707 +comment (10mak) [20:07:58] Is everyone okay if I rewrite MediaWiki in LOLCODE? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOLCODE [20:08:14] absolutely [20:08:24] as long as you don't expect us to use it ;) [20:08:32] Awww. [20:11:30] xcuse me i know i asked that before but [20:11:33] what should i do here? [20:11:34] http://cyborn.org/wiki/extensions/Confirm/ConfirmAccount.sql [20:13:08] hmm maybe a silly question but I don't see it on the editing help page - how do I put in a line break between text so I have extra room between them? [20:13:45] oh just html [20:13:47] coo [20:16:59] mh [20:19:44] leconcrete: you need to run it through mysql [20:20:02] mysql -u username databasename -p < ConfirmAccount.sql [20:21:46] ehm [20:21:57] so in url mysql -u username databasename -p < ConfirmAccount.sql [20:21:58] that? [20:22:03] no [20:22:05] from commandline [20:22:18] commandline? [20:22:29] ok, maybe not ;) [20:22:33] do you have phpmyadmin? [20:22:38] can u check the private message [20:23:01] phpminiadmin is better :) [20:23:18] easier to install anyway [20:23:21] leconcrete: I don't have a privatemessage [20:23:47] maybe phpmyadmin is better in this case [20:23:54] okey [20:24:01] i opened the phpmyadmin [20:24:04] ok [20:24:10] http://cyborn.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page [20:24:13] got this error :) [20:24:31] no error for me [20:25:21] weird :) [20:26:10] leconcrete: no problem here either; try a hard refresh [20:26:52] http://cyborn.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page? [20:26:58] i am getting a database error :) [20:27:06] leconcrete: nope [20:29:54] weird [20:31:11] umm I am trying to edit the logo - so in LocalSettings.php I set $wgLogo = http://blah.jpg but if I then load up mediawiki it errors out on that line [20:31:53] what is the error? [20:31:58] $wgLogo = "http://www.cyborn.org/main.jpg"; [20:32:02] u must write it like that [20:32:19] dont forget the ; or the error happens [20:32:24] i did the same mistake [20:32:36] I had the ; [20:32:39] but no quotes [20:33:38] how can I create boxes in my mediawiki, like what you see here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Syslog-ng ? [20:34:05] use the edit from that gentoo [20:34:06] I don't use that variable but I don't think you need an absolute path to the image; try a relative one [20:34:09] copy the text [20:34:18] your page may load a bit faster that way [20:34:28] and paste it in yours [20:34:52] I tried copied the code from that page, but its an include of a File, which I don't have that file [20:35:04] so I add the box and pre tags, but it didn't work [20:35:08] yeah of course not because is not uploaded on your [20:35:13] space [20:35:28] so use http://www.idontknow.com/xxx.jpg [20:36:18] oh wait I see [20:39:00] when I copy and paste their entire text, I just get 'Template:Box File' on mine [20:39:06] dang it that confirmaccount doesnt work [20:39:18] leconcrete: did you run that sql? [20:39:34] phpmyadmin select database, click sql, copy and paste, click run [20:41:09] 14(WFM) SMW 1.0.1 does not work with MW 1.12 - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13608 +comment (10markus) [20:42:17] question: my mediawiki is found at http://localhost/mediawiki - if I want that to move to http://localhost/bob is that easy? [20:42:43] 03aaron * r33518 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LogPage.php: All or nothing [20:45:24] I would have thought it would be in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mediawiki [20:45:26] but I thought not [20:45:28] err I think not [20:46:05] Is there any reason that \R, \N, and \Z work in texvc, but not \Q or \C? [20:46:49] *Simetrical pokes JeLuF, as the only person who was brave enough to edit texvc in the last year or two :P [20:48:41] night at all [20:48:42] bye [20:52:10] Maybe \C and \Q are used for something else? C can be made with \cnums or \Complex. [20:52:11] Hmm. [20:52:27] is there anyway to find out what text template their using on gentoo-wiki.com/Syslog-ng and copy it or find it? [20:53:20] Aletheuo, go to "edit this page" (or failing that, action=raw) and get the name of the template from the wikitext. Go to that template and copy-paste source code. [21:06:48] 03aaron * r33519 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LogEventsList.php: revisiondeletion log clean up [21:17:40] 03aaron * r33520 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add user_last_timestamp field for diff from last view links. Discussed timestamp use for this w/ brion. [21:28:11] 03simetrical * r33521 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES math/texutil.ml): [21:28:11] Allow \C and \Q as TeX commands to match \R, \N, \Z, because the inconsistency [21:28:11] annoys me. Patterned off r22477, so I assume this will work, although I guess [21:28:11] not on Wikimedia until someone recompiles (which is not exactly critical). [21:28:30] Isn't "I assume this will work" such a reassuring thing to read in a commit message? [21:29:43] :P [21:35:07] 03brion * r33522 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuthHooks.php: *cough* whoops, fix gaping security hole [21:38:00] O_O [21:48:48] . [21:48:58] who speak german [21:49:04] When starting MW 1.12, in what script are the cookies set? I want to save one of my variables with the session. [21:49:34] ehm [21:49:45] can someone tell me why http://cyborn.org/wiki/index.php/Characterstyleguide [21:49:48] WikiziA63: try #wikipedia-de [21:49:50] there is no box but a template [21:50:01] can someone tell me why [21:50:05] leconcrete: you need to make the template [21:50:19] mh [21:50:22] how do i do that? [21:50:33] 03vrandezo * r33523 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/AskSpecial/SMW_SpecialICalendar.php: Changed line ending in iCalendar export [21:50:42] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_VG copy it from wikipedia and give them attribution as required by GFDL [21:50:49] AaronSchulz: how about 'user_last_talk_timestamp' ? [21:51:08] fine by me [21:51:08] or we could just rename the effing table fields to nt_whatever :) [21:51:18] aha [21:51:21] *AaronSchulz is busy cleanup up some flaggedrevs patch [21:51:44] brion: fine by me as well, if you want to do the S&R ;) [21:52:01] weird [21:52:33] doesnt work for me [21:52:34] -_- [21:53:58] brion: anyway, if monitoring is up fully, can flaggedrevs be enabled? [21:54:09] leconcrete: you need all the templates that Infobox_VG uses [21:54:18] look at the bottom of the page http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_VG&action=edit [21:54:26] but it might be easier to make your own ;) [21:55:13] no time for it today [21:55:25] trying :0 [21:56:01] brion: yes, but this weekend maybe? [21:56:13] maybe [21:56:41] When starting MW 1.12, in what script are the cookies set? I want to save one of my variables with the session. [22:00:24] damn it it worked why doesnt it work anymore [22:03:17] how would one add a custom text to signatures? Username (Talk Contribs *Forum Profile*) [22:03:35] heh the goal being to link to their forum profile [22:04:16] chelz: [[Special:preferences] gives a box for it? [22:05:36] cirwin: ah thanks [22:06:24] my other question is, how does the "previous unsigned comment added by" on wikipedia work? if it's part of the wiki, how does one set that up? [22:06:47] it is a robot that watches for comments that people don't sign and edits the page and signs them [22:07:21] I am getting an error when trying to display a .svg file. [22:07:23] LocalSettings.php: [22:07:24] $wgFileExtensions[] = 'svg'; [22:07:26] $wgAllowTitlesInSVG = true; [22:07:26] where does one find such bots tos have on their own wikis? [22:07:27] the error message is: Error creating thumbnail: sh: convert: command not found [22:07:29] can someone help? [22:07:38] chelz: I dunno, have an look round wikipedia [22:07:48] asarand: seems like you need imagemagick installed on the box [22:07:51] asarand: have you installed imagemagick on your computer? [22:08:28] cirwin: i've done a bit of checking up on bots and so far i haven't really found a big popular bot that everyone contributes to, just individual projects [22:08:37] chelz: pywikipediabot [22:08:49] *cirwin seconds that [22:08:55] aha i'll look into that, thanks [22:08:57] that's the only one anyone sane actually uses [22:09:10] any idea why it's mentioned so infrequently? [22:09:14] OK. I have been under the impression that if it's included here: [22:09:15] $wgSVGConverters = array( [22:09:17] 'ImageMagick' => '$path/convert -background white -geometry $width $input PNG:$output', [22:09:18] chelz: or AWB [22:09:18] 'sodipodi' => '$path/sodipodi -z -w $width -f $input -e $output', [22:09:20] chelz: because it is assumed to be used ;) [22:09:20] 'inkscape' => '$path/inkscape -z -w $width -f $input -e $output', [22:09:22] 'batik' => 'java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar $path/batik-rasterizer.jar -w $width -d $output $input', [22:09:23] 'rsvg' => '$path/rsvg -w$width -h$height $input $output', [22:09:24] i ahve found it to be mentioned quite often [22:09:25] ); [22:09:26] asarand: stop pasting [22:09:26] /** Pick one of the above */ [22:09:28] it was included in the installation. Am I incorrect? [22:09:42] asarand: no, not included [22:09:53] I'm only trying to give as much info as possible. sorry [22:10:15] you can paste text at rafb.net/paste/ and provide the url [22:10:26] ok. so where do I get instructions for how to install the package? [22:10:36] asarand: what operating system are yuo? [22:10:49] Mike_lifeguard: thanks for the AWB tip. i hope it works under wine. [22:11:03] your package manager can do it on most linux, for windows I don't know [22:11:09] the wiki is on an apache server, I think. I;m not certain which OS is running [22:11:32] you'd use the local package manager to install stuff [22:11:39] do you have access to the command line? [22:12:10] 03(mod) Patch for an adaptive rating form for better usability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13744 (10JSchulz_4587) [22:12:15] well, I think so, but have never tried to use it. do I need a telnet or something? [22:12:37] asarand: its probably easier if you ask the people who own the server what is installed [22:12:44] and if they can install imagemagick for you [22:12:58] OK. I can do that. thanks [22:13:17] gj cirwin [22:13:26] When starting MW 1.12, in what script are the cookies set? I want to save one of my variables with the session. [22:13:38] ty [22:13:42] Genki: you should write an extension, not modify the code [22:14:29] Ok. Can you tell me in what script the cookie is set? [22:14:49] nope, but i'll tell you how to do it properly [22:15:15] that'd be terrific! [22:16:51] start here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extensions#Writing_Extensions and with docs/hooks.txt [22:17:17] and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks perhaps [22:17:53] what i really want to do is save one of the variables that I customized in LocalSettings.php. [22:21:21] 03aaron * r33524 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (4 files): Changes based of patch by Daniel Arnold (bug 13744) [22:24:37] 03aaron * r33525 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Set default again [22:24:45] Hi guys! [22:25:13] i have broken scr images [22:25:40] becose "index.php/" are bad in all url images [22:26:34] for example he putme a image in http://mat.dein.cl/mediawiki-1.12.0/index.php/1/a/a9/Example.jpg [22:26:52] but the true url it's  http://mat.dein.cl/mediawiki-1.12.0/1/a/a9/Example.jpg [22:36:05] 03aaron * r33526 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevsPage.php): Fix and cleanup up broken submit [22:58:57] Captchas done for real: http://granimpetu.com/wp-content/archivos/2007/06/captcha.jpg [23:06:19] 03siebrand * r33527 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesKl.php: Fallback to Danish [23:10:28] 03(NEW) Admins don' t see when page creations match against the blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13780 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: TitleBlacklist; (mike.lifeguard) [23:14:20] hellu [23:14:51] is somewhere a list what commands there are Special:preferences and all that stuff [23:15:42] because i want to know how many people are registered on my wiki [23:16:57] leconcrete, commands in what context? [23:17:03] 03siebrand * r33528 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (5 files): [23:17:03] Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki [23:17:03] * magic words, namespace names, special pages aliases, skin names [23:17:06] You can tell how many people are registered by checking Special:Statistics. [23:17:14] You mean a list of all special pages? Try Special:SpecialPages. [23:17:59] and how can i delete an account? [23:18:39] leconcrete, you're not supposed to. [23:18:47] *Simetrical needs to create a factoid for mwbot [23:19:11] !deleteuser | leconcrete [23:19:11] --mwbot-- leconcrete: Deleting users is very messy and not recommended, because this breaks referential integrity in the database (they appear in many different tables like users, edit histories, recentchanges, preferences, etc). A safe solution is to block the users, and possibly rename them with . You can also try [23:19:11] ... [23:19:34] aha [23:19:39] thank u simetrical [23:20:10] mh [23:20:14] rename doesnt work -_- [23:20:34] hey all [23:20:45] ah [23:20:49] now i understand [23:21:42] i'm wondering, is it possible to have a conditional template that gives an output based on some text in an article, or more specifically, in an infobox? [23:25:32] 03(NEW) delayed/duplicate mail notification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13781 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Email; (lar) [23:25:38] 03(mod) Enable email notification on changes to user talk pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5220 (10lar) [23:26:09] 03(mod) delayed/duplicate mail notification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13781 (10lar) [23:26:29] !rank [23:26:29] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "rank". [23:26:38] !infobox [23:26:38] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "infobox". [23:28:50] !template [23:28:50] --mwbot-- For more information about templates, see . The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions and enabling HTML Tidy . [23:31:39] !pywikibot [23:31:39] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "pywikibot". [23:31:54] anyone know where one might find plugins to pywikibot? [23:31:58] !pywikipediabot [23:31:58] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "pywikipediabot". [23:32:26] pywikipediabot rather [23:33:17] chelz: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Pywikipediabot [23:33:59] Mike_lifeguard: thanks :) [23:34:58] damn it why isnt template working T.T [23:35:47] 03siebrand * r33529 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (75 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-04-18 01:17 CEST) [23:38:33] 04(REOPENED) Emails sent via EmailUser should be more identifiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13714 +comment (10meno25wiki) [23:39:26] aloha, I have a brand new centos 5.0 install, using yum to install: vsftpd (2.0.5), php (5.1.6), httpd (apache 2.2.3), mysql (5.0.23), gd, and imagemagick. i uploaded mediwiki 1.12.0 via ftp, and ran through the installation file. [23:39:44] once it was done, it told me to move LocalSettings.php out of config/ [23:39:53] which I did, and then removed /config [23:40:26] 03siebrand * r33530 10/trunk/extensions/ (51 files in 50 dirs): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-04-18 01:17 CEST) [23:41:34] then I click on the link to take me to the main page,a dn now all I get is: http://wiki.maui-hawaii.com/index.php/Main_Page but there's NO title, or page content (white page)(this is an internal url for our LAN) [23:41:46] any suggestions on where to look for errors? [23:41:48] rixxx|work, you may want to yum install php-xml (and restart Apache). Red Hat-based installs apparently don't package it by default, although the PHP docs claim it's a core part of the software. [23:42:04] But more generally, you want to look at your PHP error log. [23:42:12] !errors [23:42:12] --mwbot-- To see PHP errors, add this to the very top of LocalSettings.php: error_reporting(E_ALL); ini_set("display_errors", 1); Fatal PHP errors usually go to Apache's error log - also check the error_log setting in php.ini (or use phpinfo). For more details in wiki error reports, set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; and $wgShowSQLErrors = true; For full debug output, set $wgDebugLogFile to some path you like. [23:45:48] ah hah! [23:45:54] simetrical, that did it! [23:46:08] much mahalos! [23:46:21] <3 [23:47:57] !deleteuser [23:47:57] --mwbot-- Deleting users is very messy and not recommended, because this breaks referential integrity in the database (they appear in many different tables like users, edit histories, recentchanges, preferences, etc). A safe solution is to block the users, and possibly rename them with . You can also try [23:48:16] !templete [23:48:16] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "templete". [23:48:18] !template [23:48:18] --mwbot-- For more information about templates, see . The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions and enabling HTML Tidy .