[00:00:39] There seems to be an alien pubic hair in my Gin. [00:00:51] !ops bauglir cross-channel troll [00:00:51] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "ops". You might try: !oversight [00:00:54] 03(mod) Hitting 'enter' in Special:Search fields does a 'go' search instead of fulltext in Internet Exporer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13778 (10brion) [00:07:12] sorry I wasn't much help [00:07:26] tried at least [00:14:32] 03(mod) Hitting 'enter' in Special:Search fields does a 'go' search instead of fulltext in Internet Exporer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13778 (10N/A) [00:26:10] 03(mod) Hitting 'enter' in Special:Search fields does a 'go' search instead of fulltext in Internet Exporer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13778 (10N/A) [00:31:49] So I have MediaWiki: 1.6.4, and MySql 5.0, I want to upgrade to the latest mediawiki, and the latest MySQL, I'm actually moving to a DreamHost account. What is the best way to move from my debian box, with media wiki 1.6.4, to the latest mediawiki-1.12.0? [00:32:07] I want to save it, so all user accounts still exist, and all that crap. [00:33:20] i think there's a page documented db move procedures, lemme find it [00:33:37] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Moving_a_wiki [00:35:10] Is it possible to do a metric conversion using #expr: ? [00:35:27] Anyone seen anything regarding that? [00:37:30] 03(mod) Install ConfirmAccount extension on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13782 (10brion) [00:37:42] VonSchmut: i'm sure there's some templates for doing it on en.wikipedia :) [00:45:50] 03(mod) Hitting 'enter' in Special:Search fields does a 'go' search instead of fulltext in Internet Exporer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13778 (10brion) [01:08:56] brion: Indeed. However, mighty complicated... which I wouldn't mind, except they use special punctuation in URLs that I can't get (like a +). [01:09:30] If someone could give a solution to that, hey, fantastic. [01:13:35] VonSchmut: shouldn't be any urls involved afaik.... [01:16:31] Example: One template calls on Template:Rnd/+, which won't work for me. Doesn't escape. [01:17:04] Always had a problem with +. [01:40:16] 03(NEW) diff. css uses the proprietary -moz-pre-wrap instead of the cross-browser, standards-compliant pre-wrap - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13797 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (rememberthedot) [01:44:24] 03(mod) diff. css uses the proprietary -moz-pre-wrap instead of the cross-browser, standards-compliant pre-wrap - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13797 (10N/A) [01:47:05] 03(mod) Install ConfirmAccount extension on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13782 +comment (10cbrown1023) [01:47:19] How do you make it so blocked users can edit their own talkpage unless it is protected? [01:48:39] !wg BlockAllowsUTEdit | FastLizard4 [01:48:39] --mwbot-- FastLizard4: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgBlockAllowsUTEdit [01:48:50] Skizzerz: thanks :) [01:48:55] np :) [01:51:06] Man! How does one escape + in urls [01:51:20] talk about something that'll drive you insane [01:52:46] hi [01:54:15] Isn't there a Title.php mod that'll handle that? [01:55:15] I'm a total mediawiki noob, can u use it with things like godaddy? [01:56:41] somebody speak russian? [01:57:02] 03(mod) Install ConfirmAccount extension on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13782 (10cbrown1023) [01:57:33] what was that [01:59:16] ? [02:06:55] LOL [02:17:48] sory for my english, but [02:18:00] If there isn't one, why isn't there a detailed solution (a guide at least) to + signs in page URLs by now? This problem is like two years old. I thought it should work as a special character (at least in 1.12) and it doesn't (at least for me). [02:18:41] i trying install MediaWiki 1.12.0 on LAMP [02:18:49] my PHP 5.2.5 [02:19:01] PHP is working [02:19:34] %2B doesn't escape either [02:19:58] but when i open http://localhost/wiki i see this [02:20:09] http://pastebin.ru/293126 [02:21:04] Midas_: so you have Apache working and configured to be able to run PHP? [02:22:42] yes, i have Apache 2.0.52 and i config it from manual on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Red_Hat_Linux [02:24:51] I test PHP with function phpinfo() in the file test.php - its working.. [02:35:41] Hmm, ok, it works on one installation but not another... both 1.12. Weird. [02:36:13] Could a js enabler be interfering? [02:37:41] hm.. [02:38:06] bowser "links" support JS? [02:38:19] *browser [02:39:10] I can use only this browser :( [02:41:59] yes, links support js [02:51:22] Midas_, that wasn't meant for you, sorry [03:16:40] YES!!! Finally, I got it!!!!! [03:16:47] *VonSchmut does a victory dance [03:31:31] ahoy mike [03:32:19] arrrrrrgh [03:32:41] 03(mod) No new section link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13794 (10innocentkiller) [03:33:10] 03(mod) No new section link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13794 +need-review +patch (10innocentkiller) [03:33:51] <^demon> I got bored :-P [03:37:46] I imagine that's a duplicate... [03:38:40] <^demon> MZMcBride: I imagine the older bug lacks a patch. [03:38:42] <^demon> :-P [03:38:48] :P [03:39:17] <^demon> MZMcBride: Every smiley face could be a word written in review of my patch ;-) [03:42:17] <^demon> And if there's a dupe, I haven't found it yet...I just looked. [04:36:45] <^demon> Good evening AaronSchulz of varying underscore lengths. [04:58:27] wot? no commits in the whole night? [04:58:39] <^demon> Nikerabbit: No one around even. [04:58:58] ^_^ I can commit an extension or two from MediaWiki.org into SVN if you want... heh [04:59:21] <^demon> Dantman: I've got one waiting. Needs some review too, if you're up for it. [04:59:29] <^demon> Pretty simple and straightforward. [04:59:42] What's it about? [04:59:57] <^demon> It's a Specialpage to show the available interwiki links on a project. [05:00:41] ^_^ One of these days I should get back to that CSS class tracking extension [05:00:43] <^demon> I had e-mailed Brion about SVN access, he just hadn't gotten to it yet. [05:01:38] Where's the code? [05:02:11] <^demon> Oh, [[Extension:InterwikiList/Interwikilist.php]], and also _body.php and .i18.n.php [05:04:29] Hmmm [05:05:47] <^demon> I knew there were some extensions to display+modify, but they didn't have those two features separated. I was thinking something that only displayed would be more helpful for wikis just looking to give that info to the end-user. [05:08:51] $wgSpecialPages, bad... Not using wfLoadExtensionMessages, bad i18n standards... :/ You're mixing Xml functions with string code, ick... That * in the sql is poor, for the title you should be using SpecialPage::getTitleFor( 'name' ); And I don't know what the standard is, but you're missing license data on some files [05:09:31] <^demon> Thanks for the feedback, I've got some work to do. [05:09:41] ((Though personally... I hate wfLoadExtensionMessages...)) [05:19:58] Why do you hate it? [05:21:22] Just had a strong dislike of it from the very start... [05:22:37] Completely changed a nice format of loading messages... And the method of knowing when to load things is honnestly quite poor [05:23:04] wfLoadAllExtensionMessages just to render a single MediaWiki: page... And that's the workaround to the bug [05:23:05] nice?? [05:23:21] Well, I took to a format which other people weren't using [05:24:25] as opposed to fast, few lines of code and fallback support? [05:25:28] Back before wfLoadMessages; [05:26:48] People were using a named array variable, loading it, and iterating over it with addMessages [05:27:01] I took to a shorter few lines... [05:27:06] 2 to be exact [05:27:43] require_once( dirname(__FILE__).'/ExtensionName.i18n.php' ); [05:27:44] $wgMessageCache->addMessagesByLang($messages); [05:27:44] new is 2 lines, old needed more [05:28:30] ... On every single request [05:28:40] Ya... I know... [05:29:38] But like I discussed with Tim, it would probably be much better to exploit the use that 99.99% of extensions, nearly every good one, and even a fair number of bad ones... All use extension prefixes [05:30:01] time for food [05:30:29] it also means that it takes only a few lines of code to support it in betawiki [07:31:14] Hola. [07:32:09] ... I have a few questions on the upgrade (who hasn't?) like... how to install and upgrade Parser Functions. Been looking around the MediaWiki pages a lot trying to find a upgrade manual since it gives me a 500 using the old settings/version... [07:33:46] Or would I be better of installing Winter at once? [07:35:19] ... and as I say it ... i find it. [07:35:23] Sorry to disturb. [07:40:32] And done. [07:45:25] 03vasilievvv * r33618 10/trunk/extensions/SiteMatrix/ (4 files): * (bug 10419) Provide parser functions for site matrix data [07:47:51] 03(FIXED) Provide parser functions for site matrix data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10419 +comment (10vasilvv) [08:16:51] <_wooz> lo [08:25:01] 03jeluf * r33619 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesTet.php: fix redirect loop [08:28:04] VasilievVV: what's the trick for that parser is unstubbed? [08:34:41] Bug report: I've been editing from a TOR node recently, however logged in to my own account. On both en.Wikipedia and on en:Wiktionary I have experienced transient block messages when attempting to edit or save, with reference to my TOR IP. When making a second attempt the problem is gone. [08:44:09] Now I actually managed to trigger this glitch repeatedly, however, getting two slightly different responses. The first has a page header of "Unauthorized", the second becomes a redirect to "View source". [08:44:37] It seems to occur because of TOR switching IP addresses automatically [08:46:13] .. [08:47:13] "why does it hurt when I hit my hand with a hammer?" [08:48:21] Nikerabbit: no ideas. I copied it from parser functions [08:49:04] I am impressed with how much faster 1.12 seems compared with 1.11 ... Anyone have any benchmarks? [09:15:59] 03(mod) Install ConfirmAccount extension on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13782 (10meno25wiki) [09:17:12] 03siebrand * r33620 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messages.inc: Add 'whatlinkshere-filters' [09:24:37] 03siebrand * r33621 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (43 files): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-04-20 11:12 CEST) [09:36:36] 03siebrand * r33622 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesExt.php: Localisation updates. Remove bot name in credits. [09:36:58] 03siebrand * r33623 10/trunk/extensions/ (106 files in 105 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-04-20 11:12 CEST) [09:53:56] 03(FIXED) Support Ogg metadata in image:img_metadata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1948 +comment (10vasilvv) [10:04:27] nanannaa [10:04:37] *Nikerabbit wants a bug day [10:05:26] Nikerabbit: i've fixed 4 bugs during this weekend [10:06:59] VasilievVV: there is sheeploads of cranky old bugs that could just be closed as invalid/wontfix/needinfo or fixed easily [10:07:52] you may fix https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13643 [10:08:20] Is there a way to get a random article from a category? [10:08:37] I'm not touching filerepo.. :o [10:09:27] Because it's Tim's, because it looks easy-breakable or because it's too complicated? [10:10:03] VasilievVV: all three? :D [10:24:54] 03siebrand * r33624 10/trunk/extensions/SiteMatrix/SiteMatrix.i18n.php: Update message 'fishbowl' to 'editing restricted' [10:35:01] *Werdna [10:45:58] no idea? [10:52:07] 03(mod) No new section link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13794 (10lastword) [10:55:10] 03nikerabbit * r33625 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/writeMessagesArray.inc: * Support prefix for message meta data [10:59:02] 03(mod) Namespaces ( =?UTF-8?Q?=CE=92=CE=B9=CE=BA=CE=B9=CE=BB=CE=B5=CE=BE=CE=B9=CE=BA=CF=8C?=, =?UTF-8?Q?=20=CE=A0=CE=B1=CF=81=CE=AC=CF=81=CF=84=CE=B7=CE=BC=CE=B1?=) for greek wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13492 +shell (10meno25wiki) [11:00:04] 03nikerabbit * r33626 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php README Translate.php): * branched core messages should now export properly [11:22:54] Hi (: [11:24:27] 03(mod) Enable Password Reset extension on Wikimedia private wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13177 (10meno25wiki) [11:29:54] Would someone know of a way to export a single as HTML from a wiki? [11:31:00] ?action=render ? [11:31:58] hi guys [11:32:11] thats just like what I was looking for. Just some hacking and it should work the way I need it too. :) [11:32:29] can I know why the layout of diffs has changed? [11:33:42] *ItsMeIGuess says hello [11:36:51] *ItsMeIGuess (still) gots a little link problem =X http://rafb.net/p/anAHFn73.html [11:52:10] uhm... is it possible to get the old layout ona a single project? [11:52:16] *on [11:55:53] Rael: wikimedia-project? [11:56:13] Luxo: yes [11:56:52] Rael: I think not. [11:57:22] Luxo: I noticed it's not changed on all Wikimedia-projects [12:08:09] VasilievVV: thanks for quick fixing of the wlh pagination [12:09:09] Danny_B: np. hope it will work [12:23:56] can you make red links use preload? [12:24:20] I mean, when someone clicks them [12:30:40] Rael: ? [12:31:28] ItsMeIGuess: have you asked the extension author to fix his code? [12:38:34] 03rotem * r33627 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Update for he. [12:41:35] hi [12:41:52] hello [12:42:29] any idea why http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=php&prop=revisions&titles=Category:Shiny Toy Guns|Category:10/06/2005 returns HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request when called from PHP but not when called from the browser? [12:43:34] forget it. it was the underscores :)) [12:43:36] great [12:45:57] Nikerabbit: what do you mean with "?" ? [12:53:06] hi Duesentrieb [12:53:43] hi [12:53:45] *Duesentrieb is not here [12:58:32] Special:Import is core software, right? [13:00:20] yes [13:00:39] *Mike_lifeguard hates using 'General/Unknown' for 'component' :\ [13:01:23] Special pages? [13:02:14] mmm.. i guess... can I pick more than one, i wonder [13:02:36] no, well, special pages is marginally better [13:03:01] No iirc [13:03:40] Rael: what's wrong with the diffs now? [13:05:07] Nikerabbit: to me (but it's only my opinion) the old layout was less confused [13:05:39] I have no idea what is this old and new layout [13:06:25] ok, so I'm writing a bug report, but I don't know what the behaviour /should/ be... :\ [13:07:08] you haven't said what's wrong with it? [13:07:12] Someone mind helping me think about it? -> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Reading_room/Administrative_Assistance#Import_vs._rename_bug [13:08:00] Nikerabbit: I'm from it.wikipedia, since today the text changed whitin a diff is underlined and inscribed into a sort of box [13:08:11] Nikerabbit: I can't explain it better in english :) [13:08:37] Rael: It is ugly, eh? :( [13:08:48] mike_I don't like it [13:08:51] ...But I think it was reverted [13:09:08] Mike_lifeguard: http://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ciccio&curid=56879&diff=15530567&oldid=805292&rcid=16034376 it's not reverted [13:09:44] well it may be reverted in the code, but the sites haven't been updated yet [13:10:31] hmm [13:10:35] I don't see it on fiwiki [13:10:51] oh well, I do [13:12:04] it will go away when wmf is synced next time... because people don't want to see the differences in whitespace what they requested in three bug reports [13:12:13] allright so it's just temporary? [13:12:32] yes [13:13:02] ok, thank you [13:13:09] I go away [13:13:56] I think they /do/ want to see whitespace changes, but not in a way that is difficult to read :\ [13:20:34] i have setup a new private mediawiki primarily for photo sharing with family, which ways could i go to mass upload a lot of pictures, quicker than doing a manual upload one by one [13:21:53] there are some extensions for uploading multiple images at once [13:22:55] checking on them [13:24:30] there are also some bots/tools for that. usually tailored for wikipedia/commons, but it should be simple enough to set them up for some other wiki. [13:24:43] just got pointed towards http://djini.de/software/commonist/ [13:25:54] best would be if i can find a way that is easy enough for grandmas ;) [13:26:30] thats why i thought of a windows shell extension, right click files "upload to wiki" .. but i will read more first [13:26:54] Mutante: I use http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MultiUpload [13:26:56] Does anyone know whether it is possible to create an account which has edits already? (Imported from another wiki where that account exists) [13:27:14] It allows you to choose several files at once, instead of just one. [13:27:27] tale: thanks, will try that [13:28:06] I believe that should not be possible, else someone could register the account, and have the imported edits incorrectly attributed to them [13:28:25] But spacebirdy reports that this is possible :\ [13:31:59] VasilievVV: Do you know anything about import? ^^ [13:32:40] Mike_lifeguard: yes, which kind of? file or transwiki? [13:32:49] transwiki, though it shouldn't matter [13:33:09] What's question? [13:34:22] if there are imported edits, then that account is not possible to create? [13:37:36] OK, so it /is/ possible to create the account - I just got an edit I didn't make attributed to me [13:38:22] that makes my bug report easier :( [13:45:03] hi [13:45:19] i wondering if is it possible to change the username for some users [13:45:30] do i only need to change the entry into the DB? [13:45:37] No [13:45:45] champagne [13:45:46] !e RenameUser | clamiax [13:45:46] --mwbot-- clamiax: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RenameUser [13:45:52] mwbot: THX! [13:46:02] :)) [13:46:07] There is currently no text in this page, you can search for this page title in other pages or edit this page. [13:46:12] it's very helpful [13:46:13] :p [13:46:22] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Renameuser [13:46:23] found [13:46:26] TH [13:46:28] X [13:46:29] :) [13:46:31] Werdna: over here is better? [13:47:38] i can't use that extension since i've MediaWiki-1.10.1 [13:47:40] :| [13:47:54] Other ways? [13:49:17] *ItsMeIGuess (still) gots a little link problem =X http://rafb.net/p/anAHFn73.html [13:49:34] Werdna is gone? :'( [13:50:12] or maybe it's time to upgrade my MediaWiki [13:50:14] -.- [13:50:42] tale: MultiUpload working and set to max = 50 , needed mw update but all fine now , thanks ;) [13:51:25] oh Nikerabbit didn't seen your awnser, and i am not sure if the problem is without the code itself^^' [13:52:50] 03(NEW) Imported edits can be incorrectly attributed to whoever creates that account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13798 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (mike.lifeguard) [14:00:42] bbl [14:02:39] 03(NEW) User preferences, edit tab: appearance of edit changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13799 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User preferences; (allendensen) [14:08:19] i am afk a bit.. if anyone has solution for this http://rafb.net/p/anAHFn73.html please pm me^^' (looking for one quiet a while by now) [14:08:30] 14(INVALID) diff. css uses the proprietary -moz-pre-wrap instead of the cross-browser, standards-compliant pre-wrap - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13797 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [14:09:22] 03(mod) User preferences, edit tab: appearance of edit changes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13799 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [14:16:51] VasilievVV: re: r33616 you can remove "sources" from the bottom list since you added it to the bottom of proper column [14:17:30] maybe [14:17:39] But I probably won't [14:17:51] Since it's both wiki and main page [14:24:24] 03aaron * r33628 10/trunk/phase3/includes/RecentChange.php: [14:24:24] * Clean up IRC feed [14:24:24] * Remove some unused vars [14:24:44] AaronSchulz: you read my mind [14:25:12] AaronSchulz: $title is also set twice [14:25:41] 03(WONTFIX) User preferences, edit tab: appearance of edit changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13799 +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [14:26:03] haha, it is isn't it? [14:26:56] AaronSchulz: may you perform one enwiki CU request, please? [14:27:16] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser#Impostors_of_ruwiki_users [14:28:09] AaronSchulz: just look at the code, it's weirdo! [14:28:56] it doesn't really make sense [14:29:03] $title = $this->cleanupForIRC( $title ); [14:29:08] $title = $titleObj->getPrefixedText(); [14:29:11] hehe [14:29:17] it always gets overriden [14:29:19] AaronSchulz: I think you can remove those four lines safely [14:31:25] 03aaron * r33629 10/trunk/phase3/includes/RecentChange.php: Remove old nonsensical code [14:31:39] VasilievVV what was that too that let you manage files over ssh? [14:32:05] scp? [14:32:12] White_Cat: WinSCP? [14:32:39] yes! [14:32:51] 03(WONTFIX) Include size of page in IRC->RC feed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6246 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [14:33:26] 03(FIXED) log events in IRC RC feed not backward compatible/broke bots - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13662 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [14:34:16] AaronSchulz: thanks for that one :) [14:38:58] Hello :) [14:39:40] hi [14:40:09] I have got moinmoin, doku and mediawiki installed. You people told me to try it out and see what I like. I can't make up my mind. Please help me choose one. I will tell you how I will use it in a bit. [14:40:57] you come here to ask to use our product or other product? :D [14:42:53] Nikerabbit: Yes [14:42:55] *sdakak blushes [14:42:56] Installation is not a problem. I have got all three installed correctly. So one uses a db and others not is not in question. My wiki is going to gather articles for a newsletter. peer-editing is not a very great requirement. But admins being informed when there is a new submission is. The wiki needs to be organized well, so that it is easy to categorize the articles. I should also able to tag them - to make search easier. What say? [14:44:26] Nikerabbit: Are you listening? [14:44:35] sdakak: yes [14:44:48] Nikerabbit: :-/ [14:45:12] I can give you a hug if you choose mediawiki [14:45:18] :) [14:45:28] Nikerabbit: I need help making a decision, please [14:45:50] choose mediawiki and get away with it :) [14:46:16] Nikerabbit: I started out with just mediawiki [14:46:22] Nikerabbit: Then I had second thoughts [14:46:28] Nikerabbit: And now I can't make up my mind. [14:46:45] Obviously the solution is to write your own, then. [14:46:49] mediawiki is the best general purpose wiki :o [14:46:55] 03(mod) log events in IRC RC feed not backward compatible/broke bots - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13662 +comment (10Platonides) [14:47:01] netmafia: That is way beyond what I can do. [14:47:12] Ah. Well, I'm a consultant... [14:47:19] netmafia: :) [14:47:23] With very unreasonable rates... [14:47:32] netmafia: Can't you help me make a decision? [14:48:13] netmafia: It could go down in community service as tax deductions :) [14:48:33] No one? :( [14:48:54] Well, I'll tell ya... There's too darn many choices out there. I got tired of my ancient, stale text site. I always liked how wikipedia looked, and for some reason (and I don't remember how), I ran across mediawiki. It was in the Gentoo portage tree. So I installed it. And I liked it. And I haven't messed with anything else. [14:49:06] It fits my needs, so I never bothered to shop around. [14:49:50] There's one or two things I wish it was better at, but then those changes don't really fit the "wiki mentality". [14:51:00] I'd LIKE to be able to read-protect any given page (this can be faked, so it's workable). I'm the only publisher, but there's times I'd like to give certain people editing access to certain pages. Skizzerz (I think his nick is) is working on that, and it looks promising. [14:52:38] netmafia: I think mediawiki is out for me then. [14:52:51] Why's that? [14:52:55] netmafia: people say its become monolothic. [14:53:04] and that it is for projects like wikipedia [14:53:09] Bah [14:53:50] ...but you can edit it to make it [14:54:01] sdakak: that's not true [14:54:02] Wiki organization is a function of the editors, not the system. I'm no wiki expert, but I think most are not "self-indexing" [14:54:09] sdakak: mediawiki scales very well [14:54:41] It's easy to categorize articles in MW. [[category:foo]] and it's now in foo. [14:54:59] You can easily setup hierarchical categories. [14:55:14] I'm not sure what you mean by 'tag', but MW has a full text search. [14:55:32] netmafia: tag meaning, like people tag their pictures in flickr [14:55:54] Can I tag articles like we tag pictures in flickr? [14:56:36] I don't know. Tags seem to be meaningless in the context of full-text searching. [14:57:31] As far as the notification of submissions, that may be "patrolled edits". I'm the only author, so I tend to know when new articles are submitted :) [14:58:21] Do you have URLs to your three installations? Having not used moinmoin and doku, I can probably tell you pretty quickly what the impression of a user who hasn't used them is. [14:58:33] netmafia: its on a lan. [14:58:40] netmafia: there sights have 'playgrounds' i guess [14:58:43] *sites [15:01:21] Whoa. If wiki.splitbrain.org is any indication, I don't like Doku already. [15:02:22] netmafia: No :( [15:02:27] netmafia: I lost my appetite. [15:02:44] netmafia: But still the food is getting cold. I need to eat. I will be back :) [15:03:17] hi guys| [15:03:18] ! [15:03:42] it's rellay crowdy in here :D [15:04:07] 03(mod) No new section link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13794 (10innocentkiller) [15:04:20] Ooops, I'm not allowed to like moinmoin, in any case. [15:04:25] Uses Python. [15:04:29] Python makes me puke. [15:04:35] lol [15:04:59] and you like php? :) [15:05:03] *mark doesn't get some people... :) [15:05:06] I didn't say that. [15:05:11] php doesn't make me puke, tho. [15:05:25] I have some questions about gnu/creative commons [15:05:36] is there anybody here willing to help me with a mediawiki problem for a couple of minutes? [15:05:59] is it ok under either license to copy material from the wiki [15:06:03] Ipergorrilla: just ask; don't ask to ask [15:06:04] and post it on another wiki? [15:06:16] ok :D [15:06:39] sevtree: under cc-by-sa or gfdl? Yes, as long as you follow the licensing requirements ie attribution [15:07:16] so say [15:07:20] who speak german ? [15:07:21] i want to copy stuff from wikipedia [15:07:25] i was trying to figure out a way to automatically substitute some variable text into other text [15:07:26] to put on my own wiki [15:07:35] do I need to pick a specific license when I set it up? [15:08:20] who speak english ? [15:08:22] See, this is EXACTLY the reason I publish most of my stuff under the "Here, it's free" policy. [15:08:54] I just don't want to do something wikipedia already has done, and I don't want to step on any toes [15:09:02] i have problem enabling $wgShowExceptionDetails.. after showing me "Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; in LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information." i set it at start of LocalSetting but always same message.. any help? [15:09:41] speak nobody german ? [15:09:42] sevtree, how does that work? You want to copy WP material, but you don't want to do something they've already done? [15:10:17] i want to copy their material [15:10:19] is what I am saying [15:10:28] and then add my changes to it [15:10:34] I want to be able to be free to do that [15:10:37] ah [15:10:44] like.. for example i wanna make a template with a 3 digit number for every state of the world, so when i use that template, ijust write the name of the state and automatically get the code [15:10:52] nobody speak german ??ß [15:11:00] is it possible? [15:11:50] i was trying to figure out how to do it with regular template commands or maybe parser functiond... [15:11:50] WikiziA39: Du frags taglich ob jemand deutcsh sprechen kan. Warum? [15:12:51] yea but anyhow [15:13:00] which should I pick? gnu? creative common? [15:13:04] or no license [15:13:41] sevtree: u can pick gnu or creativecommons [15:14:29] but the wikipedia content will always have to be GNU [15:15:04] gnu it is [15:15:24] so you can use CC for your original contents and gnu for the WP content [15:15:38] :) [15:16:02] btw, is there anybody who knows how to solve my problem? [15:17:05] Ipergorilla: what problem was that? [15:17:18] like.. for example i wanna make a template with a 3 digit number for every state of the world, so when i use that template, ijust write the name of the state and automatically get the code [15:17:42] Hello how can I rate limit the amount of edits a normal user makes, like rate limit them? [15:17:57] I dont see anything within extentions [15:18:09] Ipergorilla: yup, you want http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Parserfunctions#.23switch: [15:18:54] ... li love you mike :D [15:20:22] 03aaron * r33630 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Parser_OldPP.php: NS_MEDIA fix for old parser too [15:23:31] who speak german [15:24:05] Why do you ask? ^^tale :) [15:26:11] eghjaytee: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgRateLimits [15:32:02] what should the permissions be for my localsettings.php? [15:32:09] after i move it to parent directory [15:38:49] 14(DUP) Whatlinkshere not following redirects if a namespace is selected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12958 +comment (10waldir) [15:38:57] 03(mod) Namespace selection in Special:Whatlinkshere doesn' t follow redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11556 +comment (10waldir) [15:41:40] 03(FIXED) Selection of redirect only in Special:Whatlinkshere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13248 +comment (10waldir) [15:44:35] 03(mod) DPL2's include parameter broken with new parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13677 +comment (10admin) [15:53:37] 03(NEW) Portable Network Graphics Downsampler uint32_t - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13800 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (Platonides) [15:54:58] 03(mod) Portable Network Graphics Downsampler uint32_t - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13800 (10Platonides) [16:17:58] 03midom * r33631 10/trunk/phase3/includes/AutoLoader.php: ProfilerSimpleText needs loading! [16:24:32] yhe [16:24:42] ok [16:24:52] are you there [16:25:04] ok [16:28:48] yes [16:29:20] are there [16:30:34] ok [16:32:30] yes [16:35:46] hi [16:36:24] re [16:37:00] I upgraded to the latest stable release and everything seems to work properly, except the [[Image:foo]] links [16:37:29] if i go into the [[Image:someimage]] page i can't see the image preview but follow the "file" link i'm able to see the real image [16:37:41] e restored my previous LocalSettings.php file. What's wrong? [16:37:47] Does anyone have an idea? [16:38:48] image thumbnailing [16:41:02]