[00:03:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Flagged Revision Box is above categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13629  +comment (10arnomane)
[00:12:23] <nickcammarata>	how do you change metadata in mediawiki?
[00:20:45] <nic00>	when you install an extension, is there anything special you have to do? im trying to install wikihow... and im being told the 'include path' is wrong
[00:23:37] <jlerner>	the wikihow skin?
[00:23:50] <nic00>	yes
[00:23:53] <jlerner>	nickcammarata: what do you mean metadata
[00:23:57] <nic00>	www.brainoverload.com/wikihow
[00:24:07] <nic00>	that's my installation of it, but it's totally broken
[00:24:22] <nickcammarata>	like keywords, title, etc...
[00:24:25] <jlerner>	were there instructions for installing the skin?
[00:24:32] <nic00>	nope, unfortunately not
[00:24:36] <jlerner>	basically you just install the files to your skin dirctory
[00:24:42] <nic00>	they dont provide any documentation at all
[00:24:45] <jlerner>	url?
[00:24:50] <nic00>	www.wikihow.org
[00:25:16] <jlerner>	nic00: where did you download the skin
[00:25:26] <nic00>	i got it directly from them, you have to email to get it
[00:25:35] <jlerner>	yeah
[00:25:45] <nic00>	you want the link?
[00:25:49] <jlerner>	well, the skin itself and associated files go in the skins directory
[00:25:50] <jlerner>	nah
[00:25:56] <nic00>	well thats the thing
[00:26:01] <jlerner>	then go to your preferences and see if that skin appears
[00:26:06] <jlerner>	in the list of choices
[00:26:12] <nic00>	the tar.gz they send you is the whole site itself
[00:26:20] <jlerner>	ah
[00:26:21] <nic00>	mediawiki files included
[00:26:23] <jlerner>	yeah
[00:26:29] <jlerner>	old mediawiki, right?
[00:26:31] <nic00>	they hacked it in multiple places
[00:26:37] <nic00>	and yea i think its an old mediawiki as well
[00:26:50] <jlerner>	nickcammarata: you can use extensions MetaDescriptionTag, MetaKeywordsTag, CustomTitle...
[00:27:08] <jlerner>	nic00: i'd stick with the latest mediawiki
[00:27:23] <nic00>	but then i cant use wikihow, i think
[00:27:32] <nic00>	im specifically looking to use that skin/functionality
[00:39:12] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) WhatLinksHere: Filter by article namespace doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13816 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (harryboyles)
[00:57:11] <CIA-50>	03aaron * r33700 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Wiki.php: Pass title by ref to consistently override the whole thing. Image pages where acting oddly with Media: urls, thinking the page didn't exist when it did.
[01:05:27] <CIA-50>	03simetrical * r33701 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/FormOptions.php): (bug 13816) Filter by main namespace doesn't work on WhatLinksHere. Guess why? Weak PHP typing! I want to assemble a list of all these bugs as a concrete example of why PHP sucks.
[01:05:45] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) WhatLinksHere: Filter by article namespace doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13816  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[01:07:03] <CIA-50>	03aaron * r33702 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Don't make extensions have to play around with NS_MEDIA
[01:41:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) More flexible reports, dynamic arguments, template awareness ... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9203  +comment (10roc.no1)
[02:11:26] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) White space differences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13466  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[02:28:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) White space differences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13466  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[02:38:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Inserting whitespace shows up in a diff, but deleting whitespace is collapsed and not shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13804  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[02:38:40] <CatServ`>	Is there some way of changing what timezone MediaWiki says the server is operating in?  For example, it reports UTC, but my server is actually running in UTC -08:00
[02:54:08] <zocky>	CatServ`, there's a setting, $wgSomethingSomething... search DefaultSettings.php for "timezone" or "tz"
[02:56:36] <CatServ`>	ahh, thanks :)
[02:56:41] <CatServ`>	There are two
[03:28:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install SpamRegex for en.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13811  (10chrisgrantmail)
[03:32:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install SpamRegex for en.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13811  +comment (10Andrew)
[04:21:15] <Bernstein229>	hi
[04:51:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Search images by metadata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13370  (10N/A)
[04:51:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Feature request: image metadata searching - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11408  (10N/A)
[04:51:55] <gusl>	hello. I just added texvc to my PATH, so now I need to restart MediaWiki. How do I do that?
[04:53:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Changing e-mail address after unifying accounts fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13660  (10wikiwodup)
[05:23:17] <Werdna>	gusl: mediawiki doesn't need to be restarted.
[05:23:25] <gusl>	ok
[05:23:38] <flyingparchment>	you can't "restart" mediawiki... it's a php script, not a daemon
[05:24:38] <Dantman>	^_^ For now ;) Well... partially, heh...
[05:24:53] <gusl>	my error is  "Missing texvc executable;"
[05:25:35] <gusl>	and I've spent hours struggling with this :-p
[05:25:57] <Werdna>	did you compile it?
[05:26:02] <gusl>	here's a summary: http://gustavolacerda.livejournal.com/620491.html?nc=9
[05:26:10] <gusl>	no
[05:26:23] <gusl>	but I've executed it
[05:27:01] <Werdna>	IIRC you have to compile it
[05:27:10] <flyingparchment>	not if you use the pre-compiled binary
[05:27:32] <gusl>	texvc does give me output
[05:27:58] <gusl>	doesn't that mean it's the binary I want?
[05:28:00] <Soxred93>	Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /home/soxred93/Cluebot/Status/status.bot.php on line 19
[05:31:13] <gusl>	it would be good to know whether it's (a) wrong texvc file (b) permission problem (c) file isn't found at all
[05:31:38] <gusl>	unfortunately, the error message isn't so helpful
[05:31:57] <Soxred93>	Whoops, wrong channel
[05:32:33] <gusl>	flyingparchment: do you have a guess?
[05:36:57] <gusl>	ok. It's bedtime for me. I'd really appreciate any suggestions.
[05:43:45] <tale>	gusl: From README: If you're using MediaWiki's install.php and have enabled $wgUseTeX in your
[05:43:48] <tale>	LocalSettings.php, the installer will try to copy texvc into place, in the
[05:43:51] <tale>	'math' subdirectory under where wiki.phtml is installed.
[05:44:12] <tale>	gusl: Have you done that? Is there a texvc executable in that subdirectory? 
[06:10:15] <CIA-50>	03raymond * r33703 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 
[06:10:15] <CIA-50>	* Move hardcoded text "Diff:..." to new message 'missingarticle-diff'
[06:10:15] <CIA-50>	* Move hardcoded text "oldid=..." to new message 'missingarticle-rev'
[06:10:15] <CIA-50>	* Remove variable $t from message 'noarticletext' as it has no parameter $1
[06:20:49] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add import source to gd.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13817 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (raimond.spekking)
[06:23:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install SpamRegex for en.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13811   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[06:39:09] <anon1532_>	I'm having trouble making infoboxes display properly.  Specifically, the html shows up on the page instead of rendering.  Is there an extension or other addon that I may be missing?
[06:39:38] <Werdna>	what HTML appears?
[06:39:43] <Raymond__>	!parserfunctions | anon1532_ 
[06:39:43] --mwbot--	anon1532_: "Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!).  For help using parser functions, please see <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Parser_function>. For details about the extension, see <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions>.
[06:40:13] <Splarka>	!tidy
[06:40:13] --mwbot--	For more information about HTML Tidy, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseTidy>.
[06:40:30] <Splarka>	if you don't have tidy enabled, mixed html infoboxes often break
[06:42:07] <anon1532_>	It's most likely tidy, then.  Parser functions are working fine in all other places that they make a difference.
[06:42:09] <anon1532_>	Thank you.
[06:42:26] *Splarka 	spruces up tidy
[06:42:27] <Splarka>	!tidy
[06:42:27] --mwbot--	Wikimedia uses HTML Tidy, which allows mixed html and wikitables inside parser functions and templates. This can often be confusing for people copying templates from Wikimedia projects. For more information about HTML Tidy, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseTidy>.
[06:49:54] <CIA-50>	03dale * r33704 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (6 files in 5 dirs): 
[06:49:54] <CIA-50>	* fixed stream interface bug with alternate video resolution
[06:49:55] <CIA-50>	* other minnor fixes
[07:00:36] <MilesMi>	iw_url field of the interwiki table changed to a blob in 1.12... is there any reason for that?
[07:01:13] <Dantman>	T_T Splarka, are you a webserver person? I'm bored cause I don't have anyone to discuss one of my ideas with... No Jae, Tim, Jack, or Brion...
[07:01:51] <Splarka>	nope
[07:01:55] <Splarka>	client side
[07:02:06] <Dantman>	MilesMi: Probably so that long urls are not truncated and you are able to use interwiki urls longer than 255 chars
[07:02:11] <Splarka>	if we were in Tron, I'd be a User
[07:02:15] <Splarka>	and you'd be the MCP
[07:02:27] *Splarka 	throws a frisbee at ya
[07:02:44] <MilesMi>	Dantman: err... that is a problem... now there is no easy tool to edit the interwiki table
[07:03:00] <Dantman>	T_T Don't even know the Squid/Varnish <-> Apache+PHP <-> MediaWiki structure?
[07:03:04] <MilesMi>	While it was a char(127), I could use phpmyadmin to edit it
[07:03:24] <Dantman>	Just use SQL
[07:04:35] <Dantman>	Take a look inside the Maintenance directory, there's a few sql files with interwiki rows inside them you can use to find out what to use to add urls
[07:04:53] <Dantman>	And there's always the Interwiki Special Page... And there's even 2 other Interwiki management extensions.
[07:05:04] <MilesMi>	There could be a MediaWiki: page for managing interwikis... or a special page...
[07:05:16] <Dantman>	Already exists...
[07:06:38] <MilesMi>	where?
[07:07:05] <Dantman>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpecialInterwiki
[07:08:00] <MilesMi>	oh, an extension... I though you were talking about a core mediawiki page
[07:08:05] <MilesMi>	ok, thanks, I'll install it
[07:21:11] <VonSchmut>	#join Wikia
[07:21:13] <VonSchmut>	oops
[07:25:22] <Sasoriza>	Anyone here got a bot account on Wikia?
[07:27:20] <Dantman>	Sasiruza: Move back to your #Wikia tab
[07:54:31] <StayTuned>	Just got mediawiki running on OpenSolaris 11
[07:54:49] <StayTuned>	unstable
[08:02:26] <domas>	unstable what?
[08:05:39] <StayTuned>	domas - I am using blastwave.org
[08:05:54] <StayTuned>	which is a package mgt system for solaris
[08:06:08] <flyingparchment>	it's not a package management system, just packages for the existing package manager in solaris
[08:06:16] <flyingparchment>	(and a script to download them automatically)
[08:06:36] <Werdna>	flyingparchment: when is info on renewing ts accounts coming out? have I missed it on toolserver-l?
[08:07:00] <domas>	StayTuned: ah, thats what you meant by 'unstable'
[08:07:12] <flyingparchment>	Werdna: dab said he'll send it soon
[08:07:18] <Werdna>	okay
[08:07:27] <Werdna>	so long as I haven't missed it.
[08:07:45] <StayTuned>	its ok - I figure I can duplicate these efforts in under 24 hours if I have to again
[08:07:54] <StayTuned>	It is helpful having a Solaris DVD
[08:08:42] <dbdukes>	i've been digging around on various docs on mediawiki and wikipedia and i can't really figure out for wikipedia how i get them to register an extension so the wikipedian's can use it in articles
[08:11:51] <dbdukes>	any idea where i can look to find this out?
[08:18:42] <Sasoriza>	dbdukes: Have you asked on #wikipedia?
[08:36:36] <Werdna>	anybody got any idea what's wrong with this? http://www.religionisfree.org/wiki/index.php/Template:Infobox_Celebrity
[08:37:19] <Werdna>	it looks like the first < of a noinclude block is missing, and thus throwing a bunch off
[08:45:30] <AzizLight>	Hi everybody
[08:45:42] <Wala>	Hello
[08:45:56] <Wala>	Can i use this channal to ask a question?
[08:47:06] <Wala>	I'm trying to get familier with mediawiki and i've tried to make an table, however all the tables i put on my wiki, doesn't look like in the examples, when i've copied your examples to my wiki they didn't worked aswell.
[08:47:16] <Wala>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Table
[08:48:40] <guillom>	Wala, you might want to copy some of the wikipedia-specific styles from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common.css
[08:49:29] <Wala>	Aha
[08:49:42] <Wala>	wikitable,
[08:49:46] <Wala>	isn't built in?
[08:50:09] <guillom>	don't think so
[08:50:40] <Wala>	Aha..
[08:50:52] <guillom>	otherwise there wouldn't be so many people asking about tables on this channel :)
[08:50:59] <Wala>	lol :P
[08:51:03] <Wala>	And on which file should i edit?
[08:51:12] <guillom>	MediaWiki:Common.css
[08:51:13] <Wala>	skins/common/?
[08:51:33] <Wala>	ha, create new file?
[08:51:40] <Wala>	and put it on root folder
[08:51:41] <Wala>	?
[08:51:47] <guillom>	just edit this page
[08:52:10] <guillom>	[[MediaWiki:Common.css]]
[08:52:37] <Wala>	Hmm, i don't get it :S
[08:53:03] <guillom>	you can create pages on your wiki
[08:53:09] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	Wala, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css
[08:53:20] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	yourwiki.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css
[08:53:21] <Wala>	http://ncdb.theconsilium.com/wiki/Common.css
[08:53:34] <Wala>	http://ncdb.theconsilium.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css
[08:53:35] <Wala>	Same
[08:53:49] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	but namespace is MediaWiki
[08:53:49] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	that's right
[08:54:20] <guillom>	Wala, http://ncdb.theconsilium.com/wiki/index.php/MediaWiki:Common.css
[08:54:37] <guillom>	there
[08:54:43] <Wala>	Was about to do that!
[08:54:45] <Wala>	Thx 
[08:54:47] <guillom>	np
[08:54:58] <Wala>	guillom and Sasa^Stefanovic
[08:55:14] <guillom>	you need sysop status to edit pages in the MediaWiki namespace, btw
[08:55:27] <Wala>	http://ncdb.theconsilium.com/wiki/index.php/MediaWiki:Common.css
[08:55:48] <Wala>	How then?
[08:56:11] <guillom>	well, you copied the entire page from wikipedia, there are probably numbers of things you don't need in it
[08:56:20] <guillom>	but it will probably not hurt
[08:56:23] <AzizLight>	can somebody help me please? I have a mediawiki on my localhost on a pc, and now I just moved to mac os x and I need to backup my wiki to the mac. What I did is backup the mysql database with phpmyadmin and copy the project folder to the new projects directory on my mac, but now when I try to access my wiki I get this error saying 'wikiuser'@'localhost' 
[08:56:50] <Wala>	Hmm
[08:56:53] <Wala>	Dunno, but it works.
[08:56:58] <Wala>	http://ncdb.theconsilium.com/wiki/index.php/Creature_root
[08:56:58] <Wala>	:]
[08:57:56] <guillom>	here it is
[08:58:08] <guillom>	that's all you need to do
[08:58:25] <Wala>	Pretty Simple
[08:58:26] <Wala>	Thx
[08:59:03] <guillom>	you might want to do a little cleanup later in [[MediaWiki:Common.css]], as you've imported dozens of styles you'll never need
[09:00:56] <Wala>	Can i ask another question about tables?
[09:01:04] <Wala>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table/example_row_template
[09:01:08] <Wala>	This one doesn't work aswell
[09:01:19] <Wala>	Sortable table
[09:01:19] <CIA-50>	03raymond * r33705 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
[09:01:19] <CIA-50>	Convenience tweaks:
[09:01:19] <CIA-50>	* Change link of groupname to the project group page
[09:01:19] <CIA-50>	* Add explicit link to Special:listusers. New message: 'listgrouprights-members'
[09:03:37] <guillom>	Wala, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Sorting
[09:04:58] <guillom>	everything's explained there
[09:05:43] <Wala>	k
[09:05:43] <Wala>	thx
[09:07:21] <tale>	AzizLight: I don't understand that part about copyin to new project directory, but basically if you have a database dump from your old wiki, restore it on the new host.
[09:07:41] <tale>	AzizLight: But you also need to copy some files from the old wiki to the new one.
[09:07:45] <Wala>	Like that?
[09:07:45] <Wala>	http://ncdb.theconsilium.com/wiki/index.php/Skins-1.5/common/wikibits.js
[09:08:20] <Wala>	And http://ncdb.theconsilium.com/wiki/index.php/Common.js
[09:08:22] <Wala>	right?
[09:09:19] <huber>	hello
[09:09:20] <Wala>	ok i'll figure later, gotta go now
[09:09:22] <Wala>	Hey
[09:09:37] <Lady_Aleena>	I would like a WikiProject banner to be able to detect if a page is put up for deletion, I have already been given a way to detect for articles, but not for categories, images, and templates. Any thoughts?
[09:09:37] <huber>	i need some help setting up mediawiki
[09:10:09] <huber>	i'm not able to figure out how to modify the sidebar( contents of the navigator bar)
[09:10:15] <huber>	could someone help me??
[09:10:21] <tale>	huber: Edit Mediawiki:Sidebar
[09:10:29] <tale>	huber: '
[09:10:37] <tale>	huber: and read the FAQ.
[09:10:55] <huber>	yeah i read the FAQ but can't find the file
[09:11:03] <tale>	huber: What file?
[09:11:08] <Splarka>	huber: try Special:Allmessages
[09:11:27] <huber>	where's the file (p.s. in case you haven't figured it out yet...i'm not a programmer)
[09:11:31] <Splarka>	the sidebar isn't edited by a file, but edited by modifying a content page in the MediaWiki namespace
[09:11:43] <Splarka>	yknow how you create an article? sorta like that
[09:11:49] <tale>	huber: It is not a file, a page named Mediawiki:Sidebar.
[09:12:06] <huber>	hmmm ok let me look around again 
[09:15:37] <AzizLight>	tale: I use MAMP the project directory is basically where I paste my project folder in order for them to appear in the localhost
[09:16:24] <AzizLight>	tale: and I copied the whole MediaWiki folder from one computer to the other
[09:17:04] <AzizLight>	tale: the only thing that might cause a problem is that mysql had a password on the pc and now it has no password..
[09:17:32] <huber>	ok so I can't find this page Mediawiki:Sidebar...i don't know what i'm doing wrong
[09:18:36] <Splarka>	on any page, do you see a toolbox link called "Special Pages" ?
[09:19:13] <huber>	ok found that
[09:19:44] <Splarka>	okay, at that page, click Special:Version, watcha at?
[09:20:20] <huber>	what'd you mean what am i at?
[09:20:28] <Splarka>	what version are you on?
[09:20:49] <huber>	euh MediaWiki 1.8.2? does that make sense?
[09:21:12] <Splarka>	bit old, but I think that has the sidebar
[09:21:39] <huber>	ok so now what? (p.s. thanks for the help)
[09:22:09] <Splarka>	okay, go back to the Special pages, and find something like "System messages" (IIRC)
[09:22:16] <huber>	ok hold on
[09:22:17] <Splarka>	the link should be Special:Allmessages
[09:22:27] <Splarka>	the page is big, sometimes over a meg, so patience when loading
[09:23:44] <huber>	I see an option All Pages but not Allmessages
[09:24:57] <huber>	right now i'm at a page that says All articles
[09:26:01] <huber>	ok wait so now i'm at a page MediaWiki:Sidebar but there's not edit option??
[09:26:37] <guillom>	<guillom> you need sysop status to edit pages in the MediaWiki namespace, btw
[09:26:43] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Non-functional and obscure namespace parameter in Linksearch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13818 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: LinkSearch; (sco_scam)
[09:27:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Use of templates in intersections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13692  (10raimond.spekking)
[09:27:49] <huber>	crud so how do i do that guillom?
[09:28:23] <guillom>	huber, if you're not an admin, you ask one to edit the page
[09:29:37] <huber>	well i'm the one who installed the mediawiki software how does mediawiki know who is the admin?
[09:30:15] <guillom>	ah
[09:30:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Interwiki map update - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12763  (10andrew)
[09:30:28] <guillom>	do you have an account called WikiSysop or something ?
[09:30:46] <huber>	euh? lol
[09:31:00] <huber>	where'd that be??
[09:31:05] <CIA-50>	03vrandezo * r33706 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/AskSpecial/SMW_SpecialICalendar.php: changed end date by one day when without time as to markus' comment
[09:31:47] <guillom>	huber, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights , http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Sysops_and_permissions
[09:31:55] <huber>	ok 
[09:31:57] <huber>	thx
[09:32:27] <guillom>	and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights_management
[09:33:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install SpamRegex for en.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13811  +comment (10happy_melon)
[09:39:23] <huber>	ok so i guess i have to be in the bureaucrat list but i still don't see how i add myself into this group
[09:44:07] <huber>	guillom: if you're still there?
[09:45:10] <guillom>	huber, is your wiki public ?
[09:45:29] <huber>	what does that mean? 
[09:45:44] <guillom>	is it online and can I see it ?
[09:45:57] <huber>	oh no not yet right now it's on my local machine
[09:46:21] <guillom>	look at [[special:listusers]] and tell me what you see
[09:47:03] <huber>	ok so if I click to show sysops it shows WikiSysOp (Bureaucrat, Sysop) 
[09:47:09] <huber>	if i click all users
[09:47:12] <huber>	i see myself
[09:47:21] <huber>	in the list
[09:48:01] <guillom>	so you do have a user named WikiSysop who has bureaucrat status
[09:48:34] <guillom>	log in as this user and make yourself a sysop using [[special:makesysop]] (look at the links I've given you earlier)
[09:48:41] <huber>	i guess, but that must have been created by default when i installed the software
[09:48:50] <huber>	ok hold on let me see
[09:49:14] <guillom>	i'm having lunch now, bbl
[09:49:20] <huber>	ok bon ap
[09:50:46] <huber>	i'm gonna eat now too...bbl
[10:09:24] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Bad value of euoffset causes items to be skipped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13819 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (sco_scam)
[10:15:57] <CIA-50>	03btongminh * r33707 10/trunk/pngds/ (pngreader.h pngutil.h): Define uint32_t for Microsoft compilers which don't support stdint.h
[10:17:12] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Impossible to update my mediawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13820 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (bertrand.grondin)
[10:17:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Impossible to update my mediawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13820  15enhancement->major; normal->high (10bertrand.grondin)
[10:23:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Extension user group messages on special:listusers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9554  +comment (10emil)
[10:32:00] <CIA-50>	03btongminh * r33708 10/trunk/pngds/ (pngcmd.c pngreader.c pngresize.c pngutil.c pngwriter.c): Add support for non C99 compilers (MSVC)
[10:33:10] <Bryan>	msvc is so outdated ...
[10:33:26] <flyingparchment>	microsoft didn't implement C99 because there wasn't enough customer demand
[10:36:21] *huber 	re
[10:39:08] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	flyingparchment, lol
[10:45:55] <CIA-50>	03btongminh * r33709 10/trunk/pngds/ (README.txt pngresize.c): Update documentation
[10:47:28] <CIA-50>	03jojo * r33710 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/README.txt: adjusted reference to example config
[10:48:24] <CIA-50>	03jojo * r33711 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/README.txt: fixed typo
[10:53:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Flagged Revision Box is above categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13629  (10arnomane)
[11:09:24] <CIA-50>	03btongminh * r33712 10/extensions/: Initial import of PNGHandler extension.
[11:09:26] <CIA-50>	03btongminh * r33713 10/extensions/PngHandler/: Initial import of PNGHandler extension.
[11:10:51] <Bryan>	fucking Eclipse
[11:10:54] <CIA-50>	03btongminh * r33714 10/extensions/PngHandler/ (PngHandler.php PngHandler_body.php): Initial import of PNGHandler extension.
[11:11:04] <Bryan>	aaaargh
[11:12:08] <CIA-50>	03btongminh * r33715 10/extensions/: Try again, now in the correct directory
[11:13:45] <CIA-50>	03btongminh * r33716 10/trunk/extensions/PNGHandler/: Initial import of PNGHandler.
[11:15:03] <sdondley>	how do I clear the cache so my footer text updates? I changed Aboutsite but nothing happens.
[11:15:14] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	ctrl+f5
[11:15:19] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	or &action=purge 
[11:15:34] <sdondley>	action=purge had no effect on the footer links
[11:15:36] <CIA-50>	03btongminh * r33717 10/trunk/extensions/PNGHandler/ (PngHandler.php PngHandler_body.php): Initial import of PNGHandler.
[11:15:38] <Lycurgus>	is the disambiguation on the search box that just appeared today on the english wiki going to be in the next mw release?
[11:16:09] <sdondley>	ctrl F5 has no effect either
[11:16:16] <sdondley>	I need to clear the footer cache
[11:16:30] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	Lycurgus, i don't see it
[11:16:51] <rainman-sr>	Lycurgus, yes
[11:17:00] <Lycurgus>	well it's definitely there.
[11:17:13] <rainman-sr>	sasa, pocni da kucas u search box-u
[11:18:10] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	oho :)
[11:18:12] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	i had that before
[11:18:19] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	Zocky have userscript for that
[11:18:29] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	autocomplete
[11:18:56] <rainman-sr>	aye
[11:19:01] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Zocky/AutoComplete.js
[11:19:17] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	and it lists redirects too, but they are 'italic'
[11:20:20] <rainman-sr>	well, the downside of both is that they use alphabetical listing
[11:20:34] <rainman-sr>	which typically doesn't give very good suggestions
[11:21:48] <zocky>	yeah, autocomplete will have to be disabled
[11:22:22] <rainman-sr>	well i've made a nicer backend but we're waiting for new servers
[11:22:45] <rocketmaster000>	I didn't know there's a feature on Wikipedia that completes your searches.
[11:23:49] <mingers>	anyone know what version of mysql mediawiki for wikipedia uses?
[11:24:00] <mingers>	i'm running mysql 5.0 on windows
[11:24:15] <mingers>	tried to load the mysql dump from wikipedia but got some string errors
[11:24:20] <Bryan>	4.x
[11:24:28] <mingers>	"ERROR 1366 (HY000) at line 323: Incorrect string value: '\xF0\x9D\x9E\xB1_\xF0..
[11:24:29] <mingers>	.' for column 'page_title' at row 9257"
[11:24:36] <mingers>	ah
[11:24:42] <zocky>	rainman-sr, is the backend going to change soon, or what?
[11:24:43] <mingers>	maybe there's a version incompatibility
[11:25:00] <Bryan>	mingers: are you using mwdumper ?
[11:25:09] <zocky>	I want to make link complete use the new backend, since it's obviously already nicer than what I use currently
[11:25:17] <mingers>	Bryan: not sure what that is
[11:25:20] <Bryan>	or just the raw sql files?
[11:25:52] <mingers>	raw sql from http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/
[11:26:05] <Bryan>	hm odd
[11:26:06] <mingers>	that is raw sql no?
[11:26:32] <mingers>	i do the little mysql < runmyscript.sql dance and get that string value error
[11:26:49] <rainman-sr>	zocky, not sure.. when new servers arrive, probably in few weeks
[11:26:54] <mingers>	my default is utf-8...
[11:27:04] <Bryan>	try setting default to latin1
[11:27:41] <zocky>	i should make linkcomplete IE compatible, and we should enable it by default
[11:27:45] <mingers>	really?  wait... wikipedia uses latin1 and not utf8?
[11:27:49] <mingers>	why...?
[11:27:51] <zocky>	it's one of those things that people don't know they need until they have it
[11:27:52] <rainman-sr>	zocky, the backend switch will be a silent one, it will just give a better opensearch suggestions, so you should use api to fetch opensearch suggestions
[11:27:53] <mingers>	that can't be right can it?
[11:28:46] <rainman-sr>	yeah, link complete would be extra useful i think
[11:29:58] <ovis_>	exitr
[11:30:15] <zocky>	rainman-sr, which browsers do we "support" at this moment?
[11:30:36] <ovis__>	
[11:30:47] <zocky>	rainman-sr, i.e. do my scripts need to be IE6 compatible, or can I assume that exploder users have  IE7?
[11:31:04] <sdondley>	I set MySite:Aboutsite to "About This Site" but footer still says "About MySite". How do I update the footer link?
[11:31:08] <ovis_>	hi
[11:31:16] <Werdna>	sdondley: clean the cache?
[11:31:23] <ovis_>	can any one read my
[11:31:31] <sdondley>	Werdna: tried it, no effect
[11:31:49] <rainman-sr>	zocky, this mwsuggest.js thingy works on ie6 and opera 9+
[11:31:49] <ovis_>	it seems to be that i nolonger own my nick
[11:31:56] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	ovis, what yours ?
[11:31:59] <ovis_>	ovis
[11:32:13] <ovis_>	but its now ovis_
[11:32:13] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	that's not mw question
[11:32:15] <Werdna>	sdondley: might be another interface massage.
[11:32:23] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	go to freenode support channel and ask there
[11:32:36] <ovis_>	damn 
[11:32:41] <sdondley>	is this the devel channel?
[11:32:44] <sdondley>	ok
[11:32:46] <ovis_>	oke c u
[11:33:12] <sdondley>	what is the suport channel name?
[11:33:17] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	sdondley, did you try to check Special:Allmessages for that msg in footer
[11:33:24] <sdondley>	no
[11:33:29] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	sdondley, i was talking that to ovis, not to you :)
[11:33:40] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	check that page and edit coresponding MediaWiki: message
[11:33:59] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	rr*
[11:35:01] <sdondley>	Sasa^Stefanovic: OK, I'm there. not sure what I'm look at 
[11:35:19] <ovis_>	oke My question: What is the escaped character in a template for a pipe ???
[11:35:20] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	for text that apear in your footer
[11:35:37] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	ovis, make another template 
[11:35:47] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	ovis, chek on en: wikipedia template {{!}}
[11:36:21] <sdondley>	Sasa, ok, that was it
[11:36:43] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	just make a Template:! and fill it with a pipe, then on other template input {{!}} instead of pipe and that's it
[11:36:47] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	sdondley, nice :)
[11:36:51] <sdondley>	thanks
[11:36:54] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	np
[11:36:56] <ovis_>	like {{Box_Command| "ls | sort" | <pre>output ls</pre>}}
[11:37:12] <ovis_>	the ls | sort cant be done
[11:37:24] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	just try with {{!}}
[11:37:32] <ovis_>	and it not stated in  wikipedia template {{!}}
[11:37:39] <ovis_>	OHH
[11:37:44] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	that's right ;)
[11:38:03] <ovis_>	{{!}} IS the escaped char
[11:38:24] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	it's not a char, it's another template
[11:38:32] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	and content of that template is pipe :)
[11:38:38] <Werdna>	{{!}} can't be used anymore, btw
[11:38:50] <Werdna>	doesn't work.
[11:38:51] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	Werdna, it's on his wiki 
[11:39:03] <Werdna>	what version of MediaWiki?
[11:39:20] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	Werdna, hmm, i was using that pipe yesterday on sr: wiki
[11:39:23] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	and works fine
[11:39:37] <ovis_>	mmh oke thats a recursive problem
[11:39:41] <Werdna>	ohh right I see
[11:39:54] <Werdna>	yes, {{!}} just can't be used for breaking up templates
[11:40:04] <Werdna>	but it is required for what he's doing.
[11:40:13] <mingers>	hi, are english wikipedia dumps encoded in utf8 or latin1?
[11:40:17] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	http://sr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%B8_%D1%85%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%98_%D0%9C&action=edit
[11:42:27] <ovis_>	i just made my template {{!}} that contain | now it works and can i continue on my documentation Thanks
[11:43:02] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	np
[11:47:15] <Bryan>	mingers: they are utf8 encoded, but stored in latin1 tables
[11:47:44] <Bryan>	because mysql only supports utf8 in the BMP, afaik
[11:51:17] <_wooz>	lo
[11:52:42] <rocketmaster000>	Please disable the autocomplete feature on Wikipedia. It's annoying.
[11:54:14] <Raymond_>	rocketmaster000: you mean the suggest function in the search box?
[11:55:51] <CIA-50>	03huji * r33718 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: * Adding/updating Persian translations
[11:56:44] <rocketmaster000>	Yes.
[11:56:57] <rocketmaster000>	The suggest function.
[11:57:21] <rocketmaster000>	Please disable it.
[11:57:38] <rainman-sr>	you can disable it in your user prefs
[11:59:13] <CIA-50>	03siebrand * r33719 10/trunk/extensions/PNGHandler/ (PNGHandler.php PngHandler.php): Renamed (Png->PNG)
[11:59:33] <CIA-50>	03siebrand * r33720 10/trunk/extensions/PNGHandler/ (PNGHandler_body.php PngHandler_body.php): Renamed (Png->PNG)
[12:00:09] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	:)
[12:00:37] <rocketmaster000>	Where?
[12:00:56] <rocketmaster000>	Where's the suggest function found?
[12:00:58] <rainman-sr>	in the "Search" section of your use preferences
[12:01:26] <rainman-sr>	says Disable Ajax suggestions
[12:01:30] <rainman-sr>	ili kako vec
[12:07:25] <CIA-50>	03siebrand * r33721 10/trunk/extensions/PNGHandler/ (PNGHandler.i18n.php PNGHandler.php PNGHandler_body.php): 
[12:07:26] <CIA-50>	* consistency fixes
[12:07:26] <CIA-50>	* add descriptionmsg
[12:11:01] <CIA-50>	03siebrand * r33722 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for PNGHandler
[12:25:47] <CIA-50>	03rotem * r33723 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update.
[12:27:42] <huber>	thanks for the help bye
[12:38:25] <Midas>	hi
[12:39:26] <xerxes>	A user has given me a bunch of whitespace-formatted text (from a series of emails, I guess), and he wants it all dumped in mediawiki. How can I preserve whitespace?
[12:40:04] <Midas>	can mediawiki 1.12.0 work on MySQL 5?
[12:40:14] <Midas>	sorry for my english
[12:40:56] <xerxes>	Midas: I'm pretty sure we're using mysql 5 with mediawiki 1.12 here.
[12:41:51] <tale>	xerxes: Put the text between <pre> and <nowiki> tags.
[12:42:23] <Midas>	thanks
[12:42:50] <xerxes>	tale: that was my first guess. it seems like it still renders some of the wikinotation. for example, lines starting with spaces are formatted as though they were wikified.
[12:43:01] <xerxes>	i was thinking i might have to use <span> tags instead.
[12:45:13] <tale>	xerxes: Add a space as first character of every line.
[12:45:44] <xerxes>	Was thinking that too, but I've got fifty documents that are several pages each. Is there a way to do that with markup?
[12:46:13] <CIA-50>	03catrope * r33724 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQueryExtLinksUsage.php): (bug 13819) API: exturlusage paging skipped an item
[12:46:21] <tale>	xerxes: You seemed to want to dump it all to mediawiki as is.
[12:46:37] <tale>	If you want to add markup, you can.
[12:46:50] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Bad value of euoffset causes items to be skipped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13819  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[12:47:11] <xerxes>	the idea is to get it into mediawiki, yes, but without fifty documents worth of data-entry labor. :)
[12:47:12] <tale>	Or is it only whitspace you want to preserve, the text can be formatted otherwise?
[12:47:36] <xerxes>	yeah. after i get it imported, the user is on his own. but they want me to get it into the wiki in a way that it can be subsequently marked up.
[12:49:16] <tale>	xerxes: You have only asked how to preserve whitespace. Is the actual problem how to get 50 text documents into MediaWiki without doing 50 page creations and cuts and pastes?
[12:50:36] <xerxes>	not exactly. if i have a bunch of text documents, and I have to insert whitespace at the beginning of each line, that's a lot of manual editing.
[12:51:11] <tale>	xerxes: Well, don't do it manually. Use a shell script or whatever to add a space at the beginning of every line.
[12:51:18] <xerxes>	i'm trying to get around doing that bit of editing. getting them in to the wiki is the eventual goal, but they have to be formatted as the user has them presently.
[12:51:58] <xerxes>	tale: sigh. normally that's what i'd do, but i was actually instructed not to use linux or darwin at the office about a week ago. :/
[12:52:38] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) FCKeditor extension (WYSIWYG): new hook needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13821 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (w.walc)
[12:52:58] <tale>	xerxes: I don't know how to add a space in front of every line in Mediawiki. 
[12:53:21] <xerxes>	i was hoping there was just some way to tell it to render text as it sees it, rather than collapsing whitespace.
[12:54:55] <tale>	xerxes: Yes there is. Mediawiki does not format lines that begin with a space.
[12:55:15] <xerxes>	alright, tale. thanks. i'm going to have to figure out a programmatic way to format this garbage.
[12:55:24] <xerxes>	stupid users. gr.
[12:55:27] <tale>	But I think it does not format the stored text, only the display.
[12:55:40] <xerxes>	that's correct.
[12:55:54] <tale>	So if you just dump the text, it looks funny in browser but it should look the way it was when editing.
[12:56:15] <xerxes>	i don't think the user understands the difference between the two, unfortunately.
[13:01:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FCKeditor extension (WYSIWYG): new hook needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13821  +comment (10w.walc)
[13:02:45] <CIA-50>	03werdna * r33725 10/trunk/phase3/docs/hooks.txt: (bug 13821) Add new SanitizerAfterFixTagAttributes. Patch adapted from one by Wiktor Walc, but with some indentation fixing, and my own documentation on the hook
[13:02:50] <svip>	Is there a maintenance script for correcting user groups?
[13:02:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod) False positives on Special:DoubleRedirects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13808  minor->normal; summary; +comment (10russblau)
[13:03:01] <svip>	A sysop on my wiki is apparently not in the autoconfirmed group.
[13:03:10] <Werdna>	oops
[13:03:24] <CIA-50>	03werdna * r33726 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Sanitizer.php: Commit the whole fix, not just the documentation from previous commit.
[13:03:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add Balochi language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13814  +comment (10huji.huji)
[13:03:46] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) FCKeditor extension (WYSIWYG): new hook needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13821  +comment (10Andrew)
[13:07:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Upload errors display pseudo-paths with 'public', confuse users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13812  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[13:08:11] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Add Balochi language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13814  +comment (10siebrand)
[13:08:52] <svip>	Anyone?
[13:09:54] <Werdna>	svip: there isn't an autoconfirmed group, I don't think.
[13:09:56] <Werdna>	it's a right.
[13:10:00] <Werdna>	not a group.
[13:10:06] <svip>	Well...
[13:10:12] <svip>	The sysop should have it.
[13:11:49] <Werdna>	by default, they do.
[13:12:03] <Werdna>	why, what makes you say that they're not autoconfirmed?
[13:12:47] <^demo1>	Werdna: My job queue imagelinks issue still hasn't resolved. Only way around it I see is to make a bunch of null edits.
[13:13:31] <Werdna>	^demon: if I knew what you were talking about, I would doubtless have a response
[13:14:08] <^demon>	Thought I had mentioned it to you. I orphaned an image on enwiki from some templates about 3-4 days ago. Imagelinks still haven't updated.
[13:14:34] <Werdna>	that's kinda annoying.
[13:15:06] <^demon>	Yes, just slightly. I need to fully orphan the image, but I don't know which of the listed files are *actual* uses or just template uses that didn't update.
[13:16:22] <inigo>	hi, i can get the "accesscontrol" extension working on mw 1.12 + php5 (debian etch):
[13:16:33] <inigo>	when i declare a <accesscontrol> i get this:
[13:16:36] <inigo>	Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to Article::__construct() must be an instance of Title, string given, called in /var/www/wiki/wiki/extensions/accesscontrol.php on line 204 and defined in /var/www/wiki/wiki/includes/Article.php on line 44
[13:16:49] <^demon>	Werdna: For what it's worth, the job queue has been around 8-9million for several days now.
[13:17:12] <Werdna>	^demon: that's a technical issue, not a software issue.
[13:17:21] <Werdna>	I don't know what's happening with that, because I'm a developer not a sysadmin
[13:17:40] <^demon>	Werdna: I know, didn't know if you could think of any other way to force an imagelinks update other than null edits.
[13:19:11] <^demon>	Anyway, I'm off to class. I'll figure it out later.
[13:19:17] <Werdna>	ok
[13:24:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) post expand size counted multiple times for nested transclusions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13260  (10cbm)
[13:32:33] <CIA-50>	03jojo * r33727 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/README.txt: fix
[14:33:25] <loonatik>	hey guys i have a question about using short url's. I have it working however some of the links like the login/create account link, edit, discussions etc go to /w/index.php? ... how can I prevent this?
[14:34:15] <Werdna>	!shorturl
[14:34:15] --mwbot--	To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL>. There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem
[14:34:17] <Werdna>	!faq
[14:34:17] --mwbot--	Before reporting a problem or requesting assistance, please check the FAQ first. The FAQ for MediaWiki can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ
[14:34:48] <loonatik>	!rewriteproblem
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[14:35:22] <loonatik>	sweet so that was no help
[14:35:23] <loonatik>	anyone else?
[14:36:32] <Werdna>	well, what's the actual problem?
[14:38:34] <loonatik>	some of the links like the  login/create account link, edit, discussions etc go to /w/index.php? ... how can I prevent this?
[14:39:22] <Werdna>	oh, right.
[14:39:35] <Werdna>	well, we don't do it on wikimedia
[14:39:49] <Werdna>	you'd have to hack the code, I think
[14:41:19] <loonatik>	hmm now that i think about it im not sure that i care
[14:41:50] <loonatik>	none of the links im seeing that do this matter for search engines
[15:03:24] <CIA-50>	03raymond * r33728 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialListgrouprights.php: Let's remember the mantra: Escaping is wise. Thanks to Nikerabbit :)
[15:09:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) DPL2's include parameter broken with new parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13677  +comment (10eric.larcher)
[15:34:45] <CIA-50>	03siebrand * r33729 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/external/Word2MediaWikiPlus/Word2MediaWikiPlus.i18n.php: Add 59 messages and message documentation
[15:34:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Flagged Revision Box is above categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13629  (10JSchulz_4587)
[15:42:37] *Chloe_O_Brian 	waves to ialex :-)
[15:42:45] <Chloe_O_Brian>	and I have a bug report for you, too ;-)
[15:42:55] <ialex>	hey Chloe_O_Brian :)
[15:43:17] <Chloe_O_Brian>	Configure -- if you change something, apparently $wgValidSkinNames gets duplicated on each save...
[15:43:36] <CIA-50>	03mkroetzsch * r33730 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (12 files in 3 dirs): 
[15:43:36] <CIA-50>	move handling of "special" query results (RSS, iCal) to the respective printers, clean up Special:Ask (still
[15:43:36] <CIA-50>	to do for iCal)
[15:43:38] <Chloe_O_Brian>	the end result? quite a mess on Special:Preferences (skin tab)
[15:44:03] <ialex>	i also get this with some settings :(
[15:44:21] <ialex>	will be fixed... one day
[15:44:26] <Chloe_O_Brian>	cool
[15:48:49] <CIA-50>	03yaron * r33731 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/ (SF_AddData.php SF_EditData.php): 
[15:48:49] <CIA-50>	Added additional Javascript includes needed for remote autcompletion; turned
[15:48:49] <CIA-50>	$sfgYUIBase into a global variable
[15:49:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) hidden categories are not shown if no nonhidden cats are present - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13347  (10camway)
[15:51:34] <CIA-50>	03yaron * r33732 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_TemplateField.inc: Replaced {{PAGENAME}} with {{SUBJECTPAGENAME}}
[15:53:36] <spengler>	Hi there, short question: I used $wgout->addScript to include a javascript. Now I want to pass some parameters to that script. Is there a smart way to do that?
[15:55:44] <rainman-sr>	spengler, you could set a global variable
[15:56:03] <CIA-50>	03ialex * r33733 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (Configure.body.php Configure.php Configure.settings.php): Now support $wgNamespaceProtection
[15:57:04] <CIA-50>	03yaron * r33734 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc: Removed getAllPagesForProperty_0_7(), getAllPagesForCategory() and code to get all pages for a namespace - all are now global functions defined in GlobalFunctions.php; modified Javascript to support remote autocompletion
[15:57:46] <spengler>	rainmain-sr, ok if this is the smartest way ;), thank you
[15:58:28] <CIA-50>	03yaron * r33735 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php: 
[15:58:28] <CIA-50>	Added sffGetAllPagesForProperty_0_7(), sffGetAllPagesForCategory() and
[15:58:28] <CIA-50>	sffGetAllPagesForNamespace() functions
[15:58:34] <rainman-sr>	well, i cannot guarantee it's the smartest one :)
[15:59:53] <spengler>	but it should work
[16:01:41] <CIA-50>	03yaron * r33736 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_AutocompleteAPI.php: 
[16:01:41] <CIA-50>	New class, SFAutocompleteAPI, that defines a new action, 'sfautocomplete',
[16:01:41] <CIA-50>	that can be called with the API
[16:02:53] <CIA-50>	03yaron * r33737 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_Settings.php: Added $$sfgYUIBase
[16:03:28] <CIA-50>	03rainman * r33738 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/ (22 files in 9 dirs): 
[16:03:29] <CIA-50>	Rewrite SearcherCache for better remote load balancing. Now uses a remote pool
[16:03:29] <CIA-50>	and messenger to obtain remote status. Fully debugged distributed deployment.
[16:04:22] <CIA-50>	03yaron * r33739 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/libs/SF_yui_autocompletion.js: Added handling for remote autocompletion
[16:04:51] <CIA-50>	03yaron * r33740 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/INSTALL: New version: 1.1
[16:25:07] <Techdeck->	Did anyone ever import the whole wiki database into a local copy?
[16:25:10] <Techdeck->	I seem to have problems with it
[16:25:18] <CIA-50>	03ialex * r33741 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.settings.php: Actually, $wgValidSkinNames is an associative, thanks to Jack_Phoenix for reporting it
[16:25:26] <Chloe_O_Brian>	:-D
[16:25:41] <ialex>	+ array
[16:25:44] <ialex>	*sigh*
[16:32:16] <Techdeck->	no one?
[16:33:56] <rainman-sr>	Techdeck-, state your problem
[16:34:55] <CIA-50>	03simetrical * r33742 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Skin.php): Fatal error on some pages when calculating subpage subtitle, reported in #wikimedia-tech
[16:40:26] <nic00>	any of you ever installed wikihow?
[16:45:09] <CIA-50>	03shinjiman * r33743 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Old/Late Time Chinese
[16:54:33] <CIA-50>	03ialex * r33744 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.settings.php: ... and $wgShowIPinHeader is boolean *sigh*
[16:58:07] <Techdeck->	rainman-sr, I'm trying to import the wiki hebrew database into my wiki. The file is an .xml I downloaded from wiki and I converted it to .sql using xml2sql
[16:58:16] <Techdeck->	but when I insert it, I don't see the data on the wiki site itself
[16:58:17] <Techdeck->	why?
[16:59:09] <rainman-sr>	why didn't you use maintenance/importDump.php ?
[17:00:50] <rainman-sr>	(on the original xml file)
[17:03:47] <CIA-50>	03raymond * r33745 10/trunk/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Localisation updates German
[17:06:39] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Changing e-mail address after unifying accounts fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13660  +comment (10brion)
[17:08:35] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Template starting "/" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13822 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (sadik.khalid)
[17:14:09] <Soxred93>	Hey, I'm using the API for a bot I'm programming, and it's getting a category. The problem is that it stops after 500 members.
[17:14:35] <Soxred93>	I'm looking for it to continue. Even with parsing the cmcontinue parameter, it fails. 
[17:15:34] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Template starting "/" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13822  +comment (10brion)
[17:29:53] <CIA-50>	03brion * r33747 10/trunk/phase3/ (docs/hooks.txt includes/Sanitizer.php): 
[17:29:53] <CIA-50>	Revert r33725, r33726 (hook in Sanitizer::fixTagAttributes()).
[17:29:53] <CIA-50>	This hook is just plain weird.
[17:29:53] <CIA-50>	* Return value on abort destroys the entire data set
[17:29:53] <CIA-50>	* Whitespace is bad
[17:29:54] <CIA-50>	* It's very unclear what this would be used for
[17:29:56] <CIA-50>	* This is a low-level function that's going to get called very often, and the hook is in a place that has little clear function. It's unclear what a general hook would want to do with it.
[17:30:19] <Werdna>	brion: Comes from FCKeditor extenson
[17:30:21] <Werdna>	extension
[17:33:01] <CIA-50>	03brion * r33746 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Add bug number to notes entry for r33742
[17:34:05] <brion>	o_O
[17:34:13] *brion 	wonders how CIA-50 perfected the art of time travel
[17:34:22] <brion>	Werdna: yeah but it looks weird :D
[17:34:36] <Werdna>	brion: spoilsport :-P
[17:35:16] <Werdna>	brion: are developers doing something before wikimania?
[17:36:53] <brion>	i think we're just gonna hang :)
[17:37:08] <brion>	some folks might try to arrange a few extra days of sightseeing, but not devs specifically 
[17:37:51] <jlerner_>	brion, Werdna: any guess many developers are likely to go this year?
[17:38:01] <Werdna>	I'll go if I get scholarship
[17:38:15] <jlerner>	s/many/how many/
[17:38:21] <brion>	no idea
[17:38:23] <Werdna>	brion: put in a good word with cary for me :)
[17:38:27] <brion>	heh
[17:39:36] <Werdna>	brion: We figured out how we want global blocking done: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_blocking -- basically, grant tool to stewards, checkusers on meta (maybe in a new user group so stewards can delegate), turn off global blocks on meta.
[17:45:02] <brion>	could work
[17:45:20] <Werdna>	brion: how very committal :P
[17:45:26] <brion>	:)
[17:45:45] <gegema>	is there an extension for MW that "expires" user pws and asks them to select a new password?
[17:45:50] <brion>	haven't got a chance to review yet, but an important thing -- it needs to be possible to review global blocks from the local areas fairly easily
[17:46:02] <Werdna>	brion: you mean, something like Special:Globalblocklist?
[17:46:04] <brion>	when the extra block information is hidden away, it gets harder to tell what's going on
[17:46:27] <brion>	ideally, a single search should be able to pull up both local and global blocks.
[17:46:37] <Werdna>	humm
[17:46:49] *Werdna 	wonders how that'd be implemented.
[17:47:06] <brion>	well, just doing two queries and two result lists would be the brute-force method ;)
[17:47:15] <Werdna>	indeed.
[17:47:15] <brion>	[displayed on the same page]
[17:47:30] <Werdna>	but IPblocklist is done with a ReverseChronologicalPager
[17:47:42] <Werdna>	which expects one query
[17:48:18] <Werdna>	I mean, I could have two reversechronologicalpagers, one after the other
[17:48:23] <Werdna>	but omg ew
[17:48:27] <brion>	a bit ugly :)
[17:48:51] <brion>	i dunno the best way to do it, but we need soemthing nice here...
[17:49:03] <brion>	worst case is adding a link 'also check the global block list', but that's a bit ugh
[17:49:14] <Werdna>	the only other thing is people were talking about a local whitelist
[17:49:20] <Werdna>	but I don't see the need
[17:49:27] <Werdna>	either they're a crosswiki vandal or they're not
[17:49:37] <Werdna>	since that's kinda the policy we were working on
[17:50:05] <brion>	well, then you get into the fun issues:
[17:50:15] <brion>	* ip used by multiple people, some of whom are evil
[17:50:21] <brion>	* ip that used to be evil but isn't anymore
[17:50:25] <Werdna>	I implemented anon-only
[17:50:27] <brion>	* ip range which covers evil and non-evil people
[17:50:33] <Werdna>	No rangeblocking yet
[17:50:38] <brion>	* disputes over just how evil they are
[17:50:43] <Mike||busy>	Werdna: I shouldn't have to be a meta admin to unblock someone on my project
[17:50:45] <brion>	hmm
[17:50:54] <brion>	well, i dunno if single ips are going to do the trick
[17:50:56] <Mike||busy>	(or whoever ends up gettin git)
[17:51:11] <Werdna>	That's what this is for: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_blocking#Global_blocking_policy
[17:51:12] <amidaniel>	I imagine Meta admins won't be able to globally block / unblock either, will they? O.o
[17:51:23] <Werdna>	no, it's looking like a new user group
[17:51:41] <Mike||busy>	yup. we'll see who it is, but the point remains
[17:51:53] <amidaniel>	Gahh ... new user groups >:{}
[17:52:13] <Werdna>	brion: it's probably not much extra work to do ranges. I put the range_start and range_end fields in the table
[17:52:25] <Werdna>	so I just need to plagiarise Block.php s'more (as if I didn't do that enough)
[17:52:39] <ialex>	hehe
[17:53:41] <amidaniel>	Werdna: So how exactly are you implementing global blocking? Is each wiki calling home to meta each time to determine if a user is blocked or is global blocking on meta adding the block entry to each of the other wikis?
[17:53:45] <amidaniel>	Or none of the above :)
[17:53:58] <OverlordQ>	gegema: not that I'm aware of
[17:54:06] <Soxred93>	For the cmcontinue parameter in the API, is there any way to make it continue numerically, instead of a page name?
[17:54:21] <gegema>	OverlordQ: Thanks :)
[17:54:27] <amidaniel>	Soxred93: Numerically, as in, by id?
[17:54:50] <Soxred93>	Well I mean, is there a way to start from the 501st member of a category?
[17:55:08] <Soxred93>	Referring to it as 501 instead of User:Fobox|?
[17:55:15] <Werdna>	amidaniel: A global globalblocking db. Wikis check that
[17:55:44] <Werdna>	brion: what do YOU think about local whitelists?
[17:55:51] <amidaniel>	Soxred93: Ah, no I don't believe so .. cmstart is by timestamp or pagename, I believe
[17:55:55] *amidaniel 	looks up teh docu
[17:56:08] <amidaniel>	Werdna: Ah, k
[17:56:09] <brion>	generally, opt-out local whitelists are good
[17:56:34] <loonatik>	!faq
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[17:56:34] <Werdna>	brion: yay, more schema changes.
[17:56:35] <brion>	they empower users and admins to fix issues that affect them
[17:56:43] <Werdna>	brion: as I refuse to put it in a mediawiki message
[17:56:58] <amidaniel>	Soxred93: No way to do it that I can see
[17:57:23] <amidaniel>	Soxred93: I mean, unless you want to query the first 500 members of the cat and then nab the continue timestamp it gives back to start at 501 :)
[17:57:54] <OverlordQ>	i think a numeral continue would be snifty imo
[17:58:28] *amidaniel 	snifts OverlordQ 
[17:58:33] <Soxred93>	it would make this a whole lot easier...
[17:58:39] <Soxred93>	I tried to do it that method.
[17:58:49] <amidaniel>	Soxred93: What are you trying to do?
[17:59:00] <Soxred93>	Rewrite StatusBot in PHP
[17:59:11] <Soxred93>	there are more than 500 users using it, though
[17:59:21] <Soxred93>	and it relies on a category
[17:59:22] <Werdna>	gah!
[17:59:22] <loonatik>	im trying to figure out how to add an image upload icon on the edit page, has anyone done this?
[17:59:29] <Werdna>	I have something from rocky horror stuck in my head
[17:59:46] <OverlordQ>	would beat saying "Well I need the 423rd so lets read in the first 500 from the api and then go through"
[18:00:01] <OverlordQ>	you could just "Well I need the 423rd so lets set continue to 423 and return 1
[18:00:10] <amidaniel>	Soxred93: Is it running off the toolserver?
[18:01:23] <Soxred93>	Either that or ClueNet
[18:01:24] <Soxred93>	It's on ClueNet right now.
[18:01:42] <amidaniel>	Okay .. well off the toolserver you could do a pretty simple query to get that value
[18:01:49] <Soxred93>	I could...
[18:01:54] <Werdna>	what is cluenet
[18:02:01] <Soxred93>	http://cluenet.org
[18:02:17] *amidaniel 	was just going to ask that :)
[18:02:18] <Werdna>	The impression I got was "free shell accounts for people who can spell"
[18:02:18] <Soxred93>	ClueBot runs off of that
[18:02:24] <OverlordQ>	a hodgepodge of people running servers and connecting to each other
[18:02:39] <Soxred93>	I use it because I need to run bots for non-wikimedia projects
[18:05:02] <CIA-50>	03brion * r33748 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/DefaultSettings.php skins/common/mwsuggest.js): 
[18:05:02] <CIA-50>	Fix event hooking for suggest.
[18:05:02] <CIA-50>	Works around bug with custom search form destinations on Wikipedia; multiple event handlers for form submission were overwriting each other
[18:05:24] <amidanie1>	bah
[18:05:28] *amidanie1 	stabs his school's wireless
[18:05:34] <amidaniel>	Well, go ahead and file a bug .. I or Roan or someone will get around to it
[18:08:07] <Soxred93>	Well I have the source posted at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SoxBot_II/Source, someone want to check it out?
[18:09:44] *amidaniel 	likes that there are more commented-out lines of code than non :)
[18:09:49] <OverlordQ>	the bot has a botflag right?
[18:10:36] <Soxred93>	Yes
[18:10:51] <OverlordQ>	then can't you use a larger cmlimit? Or are there more then 5k people using statusbot?
[18:10:59] <Soxred93>	Amidaniel, the comments are there because I didn't want it to process them while it was posting the code
[18:11:29] <Soxred93>	I thought it was only 500, even for bots.
[18:11:40] <amidaniel>	Soxred93: 5000
[18:11:40] <OverlordQ>	bots can go up to 5k with the api
[18:11:50] <Soxred93>	Solves my problem :)
[18:11:55] <amidaniel>	hehe
[18:12:32] <Soxred93>	Thanks everyone. I'll give it a shot.
[18:24:15] <gegema>	on the Moonobook skin, how can I control what gets put on the footer? (Last modified, Privacy policy, About:project, Disclaimers) > Can I edit what gets listed there?
[18:26:59] <OverlordQ>	think you have to edit the Monobook.php file
[18:29:21] <tale>	gegema: FAQ explains how to change the footer
[18:30:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FCKeditor extension (WYSIWYG): new hook needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13821  (10w.walc)
[18:30:23] <OverlordQ>	orlly
[18:30:24] <OverlordQ>	!faq
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[18:31:20] <gegema>	tale: my apologies.. its just that documentation seems to be scattered everywhere and I get confused on wheter to look at meta.mediawiki* or just the Manuals: under mediawiki
[18:31:36] <tale>	gegema: I read the FAQ first.
[18:31:42] <gegema>	ok
[18:33:33] <OverlordQ>	wtfmblts
[18:34:24] <amidaniel>	?
[18:35:25] <bit`>	Hi there
[18:35:59] <amidaniel>	hi
[18:36:40] <bit`>	I'm to make a template with a list of Ingredients
[18:36:52] <bit`>	i'm trying to make*
[18:37:38] <bit`>	and I need something like a while loop, since I don't know how many ingredients there are
[18:38:59] <bit`>	so... what do I do?
[18:39:18] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) PHP error ApiQueryBacklinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13823 minor; normal; MediaWiki: API; (overlordq)
[18:43:35] <CIA-50>	03catrope * r33749 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryBacklinks.php: E_NOTICE
[18:45:02] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) PHP error ApiQueryBacklinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13823  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[18:45:13] <bit`>	anyone -------------------------------- ?
[18:46:28] <Simetrical>	bit`, what you're doing can't be done with usual MediaWiki constructions or ParserFunctions.
[18:46:41] <bit`>	I see
[18:47:20] <bit`>	so there's no way you can think of to make lists look fancier?
[18:47:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FCKeditor extension (WYSIWYG): new hook needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13821  (10brion)
[18:47:59] <bit`>	like, with style='border-bottom: 1px grey solid'
[18:50:38] <bit`>	actually Simetrical if you know a plugin that can enable it I will install it to my wiki
[18:50:45] <Simetrical>	bit`, you could just . . . use styles?
[18:50:54] <Simetrical>	There are some third-party things that allow stuff like while loops.
[18:50:55] <bit`>	but that's ugly
[18:51:30] <Simetrical>	You could add a site style .recipe li { border-bottom: 1px grey solid; } and then put your list in <div class="recipe">?
[18:51:50] <bit`>	is there stuff like %1 for the first var in the syntax? i'm really new at this
[18:52:04] <Simetrical>	What do you mean?
[18:52:08] <bit`>	OH, that's good
[18:52:20] <bit`>	I mean you know... a template looks like:
[18:52:59] <bit`>	{{List | blah | 2nd blah | 3rd blah }}
[18:53:28] <bit`>	not only {{List | name1=blah | name2=blah }}
[18:53:30] <bit`>	right?
[18:53:30] <Simetrical>	{{{1}}}
[18:53:35] <tale>	bit`: Write the style you want in that template.
[18:54:04] <bit`>	yes, but there is an unlimited number of vars
[18:54:12] <tale>	!template | bit` 
[18:54:12] --mwbot--	bit`: For more information about templates, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates>. The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions> and enabling HTML Tidy <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseTidy>.
[18:54:31] <bit`>	so... if I make like a 100 if statements, will that slow the page's loading?
[18:54:52] <bit`>	to check what how many vars there are ^
[18:54:53] <tale>	bit`: Where can you write IF of WHILE statements?
[18:55:09] <bit`>	in the template
[18:56:08] <bit`>	(Simetrical) You could add a site style .recipe li
[18:56:19] <tale>	bit`: Why is it necessary to know the number of arguments?
[18:56:33] <Simetrical>	bit`, yes, it will slow the page loading if you have tons of if statements.
[18:56:36] <bit`>	can I do that via the template page, or do I need to edit it on my server?
[18:56:56] <Simetrical>	You can do it in the wiki, at the page MediaWiki:Common.css.
[18:57:02] <matthew_>	Is anyone here familiar with the LdapAuthentication extension?
[18:57:13] <bit`>	thanks, I'll check it out
[19:03:31] <CIA-50>	03siebrand * r33750 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (30 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-04-22 20:53 CEST)
[19:06:58] <jcw>	Hello!  I need a reminder how to create an account as a admin when anonymous account creation is disabled.
[19:10:19] <Chloe_O_Brian>	jcw, go to [[Special:Userlogin]] and click the link "Create an account there" (or browse to index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&type=signup)
[19:10:31] <CIA-50>	03siebrand * r33751 10/trunk/extensions/ (56 files in 56 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-04-22 20:53 CEST)
[19:11:45] <jcw>	ah, right!  thanks Chloe_O_Brian 
[19:11:50] <CIA-50>	03mkroetzsch * r33752 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_QueryProcessor.php: typo
[19:12:20] <Chloe_O_Brian>	np
[19:13:29] <anon1532_>	I'm having a problem with infobox display.  An example of this can be seen here: http://www.religionisfree.org/wiki/index.php/Mary_Sue_Hubbard | Any suggestions?
[19:14:00] <Chloe_O_Brian>	!tidy
[19:14:00] --mwbot--	Wikimedia uses HTML Tidy, which allows mixed html and wikitables inside parser functions and templates. This can often be confusing for people copying templates from Wikimedia projects. For more information about HTML Tidy, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseTidy>.
[19:14:10] <Chloe_O_Brian>	anon1532_, see above ^
[19:15:04] <Simetrical>	Wasn't that discrepancy fixed or partially fixed, with the new parser or something in 1.13?
[19:17:30] <anon1532_>	Unfortunately there is no documentation on how I actually install Tidy.  If I have missed this in error, could somebody direct me to instructions?
[19:20:15] <anon1532_>	I spent four hours last night beating my head against the wall with it.
[19:21:13] <Luxo>	anon1532_: look at the link of mwbot 
[19:21:46] <anon1532_>	Of course I've done that.
[19:22:35] <CIA-50>	03ialex * r33753 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_AutocompleteAPI.php: svn:eol-style native
[19:22:39] <anon1532_>	I've read http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseTidy, http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy/, http://tidy.sourceforge.net/ and other sites.  I can't find installation instructions.
[19:24:19] <plimpton>	I'm working on adding mssql functionality to media wiki, but i've come accross something weird that happens between a call to nextSequenceValue() and insert(), one of my parameters is getting changed from a "1" to an array that references MessagesEn.php with the value 1207685040. Is tehre some sort of automatic translation feature in the code that would cause this?
[19:25:18] <anon1532_>	My server guy says he downloaded the binaries but they will not execute.
[19:26:04] <Simetrical>	anon1532_, what OS?  Have you tried your package manager?
[19:26:53] <hampedia>	I went to the Wikipedia page for Richard Stallman and there is a embedded video file
[19:27:00] <hampedia>	You can play it just by clicking on it
[19:27:04] <anon1532_>	linux vps using plesk.
[19:27:19] <anon1532_>	<~Nothingness> ./tidy gives errors <~Nothingness> cant exicute it
[19:27:20] <hampedia>	I run my own wiki and I want this feature...do I need an extension and if so which one?
[19:28:33] <Simetrical>	hampedia, should be OggHandler, IIRC.
[19:29:14] <Simetrical>	anon1532_, if you upgrade to 1.13, you might not need Tidy, IIRC.
[19:29:14] <Luxo>	hampedia: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OggHandler
[19:29:59] <anon1532_>	I'll try that, I wasn't aware there was a mediawiki update out there.
[19:32:13] <anon1532_>	err- 1.13?  isn't the current version 1.12?
[19:32:46] <Chloe_O_Brian>	1.13 is the development version (and also the same that Wikipedia uses)
[19:32:51] <anon1532_>	ah
[19:34:13] <gegema>	Is there a recommended WYSWIG editor for MW, something like FCKeditor?
[19:35:07] <Simetrical>	gegema, there's a FCKeditor extension for MW, yes.
[19:37:27] <gegema>	Simetrical: is there another app/extension that is 'recommended' by MW devs? before I give FCKeditor a shot?
[19:37:41] <Simetrical>	gegema, FCKeditor seems to be the most serious contender.
[19:37:48] <gegema>	Thnx :)
[19:47:50] <Romaine>	a question: redirects and small pages can be given or have a different colour as a link, but disambiguationpages can't have such colour so far I know yet, where can I the best suggest this what makes it most easy for wiki-volunteers to correct the links?
[19:48:20] <matthew_>	why does the Ldapauthentication extension use the munged (wiki-ified) version of the user name to authenticate against the directory?  Isn't that wrong--what am I missing?
[19:49:52] <Simetrical>	Romaine, I believe there's a bug somewhere for that already on Bugzilla.
[19:50:11] <Simetrical>	In practice, I find that the stub-detection preference works pretty well for disambig pages.
[19:50:28] <Romaine>	we have much large stubs :p
[19:50:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FCKeditor extension (WYSIWYG): new hook needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13821  (10w.walc)
[19:51:19] <CIA-50>	03siebrand * r33754 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/external/Word2MediaWikiPlus/Word2MediaWikiPlus.i18n.php: Fix typo
[19:53:35] <Romaine>	Simetrical: do you know f there is anything done with it?
[19:53:55] <Simetrical>	Romaine, not at present.
[19:54:21] <Romaine>	that's a pity
[19:55:50] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Enable autocompletion on large datasets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11392  +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia.org)
[19:56:14] <Romaine>	thanks for the reaction!
[20:22:19] <nzvip>	Any tips for adding specific javascript AND CSS with my extension?
[20:22:36] <nzvip>	Hopefully so the user can configure it.
[20:22:41] <nzvip>	Perhaps through a MediaWiki:
[20:23:39] <Splarka>	see the Gadgets extension, it does both
[20:23:50] <nzvip>	Thanks.
[20:24:05] <Splarka>	well, rather, does all 4 things you mention
[20:24:08] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gadgets
[20:24:34] <Splarka>	adds specific js, adds specific css, user can choose it through preferences, and sysops can edit it through MediaWiki:
[20:27:08] <anon1532_>	Where would I get mediawiki 1.13 or is it not publically accessable?
[20:31:12] <ialex>	anon1532_: you can download from SVN
[20:31:36] <CIA-50>	03mkroetzsch * r33755 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Rewritten Denny's ical implementation ...
[20:31:45] <anon1532_>	thanks.
[20:33:24] <nzvip>	Not choose, Splarka, rather edit.
[20:34:57] <Splarka>	nzvip: wha?
[20:35:08] <nzvip>	I mean.
[20:35:21] <nzvip>	When it is run for the first time, it would create two pages on the mediawiki namespace.
[20:35:27] <nzvip>	Which contains preset javascript and CSS code.
[20:35:38] <nzvip>	The user should then later be able to edit this... if they wish to.
[20:35:48] <CIA-50>	03yaron * r33756 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/ (includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc libs/SF_yui_autocompletion.js): 
[20:35:48] <CIA-50>	Bug fix - turned API URL into an argument passed in to sf_autocomplete(),
[20:35:49] <CIA-50>	to avoid having a hardcoded URL
[20:36:09] <Splarka>	so, it would be the same css/js for all page loads for all users at any given time?
[20:36:23] <nzvip>	Yes.
[20:36:29] <Splarka>	(you say 'the user' which seems to imply 'each user', so was confusing)
[20:36:36] <nzvip>	Sorry.
[20:37:01] <Splarka>	well, throw in <script> and <style> tags loading it from that namespace...
[20:37:24] <Splarka>	and then define the defaults through i18n
[20:37:28] <nzvip>	Can I throw it into the <head>er somehow?
[20:37:37] <Splarka>	yah, see how Gadgets does it
[20:37:40] <nzvip>	Thanks.
[20:38:10] <Splarka>	or flaggedrevs
[20:40:35] <Splarka>	 InjectStyleAndJS() in http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php
[20:41:56] <Splarka>	and you'd set the path to the scriptpath + /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Yourextension.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css
[20:42:03] <Splarka>	and scriptpath + /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Yourextension.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript
[20:42:05] <Splarka>	or something
[20:42:49] <Splarka>	and then define defaults for it in the i18n, which would load and sit in the message cache, and be editable by sysops/'crats
[20:51:18] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Suggestion search drop-down with skin "modern" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13824 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (londenp)
[20:53:40] <bit`>	Hi, I made a Template that has a list as one of the vars
[20:53:49] <bit`>	like: | list=
[20:53:52] <bit`>	* blah
[20:54:24] <bit`>	and the first item on the list always comes out as plain text
[20:54:27] <bit`>	why is that?
[20:56:45] <Luxo>	plain text comes if a line start with a space. 
[20:57:39] <bit`>	hmm
[20:57:41] <bit`>	what do you mean?
[20:58:00] <nzvip>	How do I add a function that should be loaded on each load?
[20:58:13] <Splarka>	nzvip: addOnloadHook
[20:58:22] <Splarka>	it is the omnibrowser safe method in mediawiki
[20:58:23] <nzvip>	That is in javascript, isn't it?
[20:58:26] <Luxo>	bit`: do you have a link to this template ?
[20:58:37] <Splarka>	nzvip: yes. For example:
[20:58:39] <nzvip>	I am thinking PHP.
[20:58:45] <nzvip>	For my extension.
[20:58:59] <Splarka>	ahh, well, check the available hooks
[20:59:28] <Splarka>	'on each load' is ambiguous
[20:59:42] <Splarka>	even for login forms? even for action=render or action=raw? even for image serving? etc
[20:59:47] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks
[20:59:52] <bit`>	luxo: http://cookiepedia.nfshost.com/index.php/Template:Recipe_Info
[21:00:24] <bit`>	luxo: you can see an example here: http://cookiepedia.nfshost.com/index.php/User:Bit
[21:00:44] <Luxo>	ok
[21:02:31] <Luxo>	bit`: reload
[21:03:00] <bit`>	oh, thanks
[21:03:11] <bit`>	just needed to go one line down?
[21:04:01] <Luxo>	bit`: <div style="text-align:left;">*point</div> don't work, because * are only parsed at beginning of the line
[21:04:48] <Luxo>	so you must make <div style="text-align:left;">
[21:04:50] <Luxo>	*point</div>
[21:05:18] <bit`>	k
[21:07:59] <Luxo>	good night
[21:15:53] <almien>	What might cause mediawiki to lock-up all connections to a particular browser session? (so that once it happens*, no further pages from that wiki can be viewed in that browser session)  (* happens when an image resize is triggered on server)
[21:19:55] <Klemo>	awesome..
[21:21:09] <Klemo>	Just want to check if anyone has done this, if you can provide some "gotchas" when you did it... Has anyone put media wiki inside an "iframe"? I just tired it quick and dirty, but once the frame loads it moves my browser to the location of the wiki rather than just showing the content...
[21:21:33] <Skizzerz>	!wg BreakFrames | Klemo 
[21:21:33] --mwbot--	Klemo: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgBreakFrames
[21:21:39] <Klemo>	danke
[21:21:44] <Skizzerz>	that needs to be false if you want to frame a wiki
[21:22:16] <Klemo>	sweet thanks...
[21:23:38] <Klemo>	crap I'm using 1.6
[21:23:52] <Klemo>	only because i have php4, the acutal server will run what ever I want...
[21:24:11] <Klemo>	do I have to edit a bunch of code to make it work in 1.6?
[21:24:38] <Simetrical>	Klemo, it should be a one- or two-line thing in wikibits.js.
[21:24:49] <Klemo>	ok I'll poke around...
[21:24:59] <Simetrical>	Note that it's false by default now, frame-breaking was a fairly silly idea to begin with.
[21:25:04] <Simetrical>	Lots of legitimate reasons to frame stuff.
[21:25:10] <Klemo>	I have a short meeting... be back soon
[21:53:37] <CIA-50>	03magnusmanske * r33757 10/trunk/tools/commonsapi/commonsapi.php: added parameters for thumbnail size and HTML conversion
[22:14:01] <CIA-50>	03yaron * r33758 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_AutocompleteAPI.php: Added escaping of spaces in category and namespace names
[22:16:49] <anon1532_>	i installed http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Inputbox and after i add require_once($IP.'/extensions/inputbox/inputbox.php'); the server breaks.  suggestions?
[22:18:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Suggestion search drop-down with skin "modern" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13824  (10brion)
[22:36:03] <CIA-50>	03brion * r33759 10/trunk/phase3/ (7 files in 6 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[22:36:03] <CIA-50>	* (bug 13824) AJAX search suggestion now works with non-SkinTemplate skins
[22:36:03] <CIA-50>	The setup code was using a MonoBook-specific div ID to insert the results
[22:36:03] <CIA-50>	container into. Swapped that for the plain ol' document.body and fixed the
[22:36:03] <CIA-50>	styles for MonoBook and Modern so it gets the scale-up fix for the font size
[22:36:07] <CIA-50>	(they both use a weird system where they shrink the font size on the body, then
[22:36:09] <CIA-50>	scale it back up inside.... very wtf territory!)
[22:36:18] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Suggestion search drop-down with skin "modern" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13824  +comment (10brion)
[22:49:17] <nzvip>	Why can't I do this?
[22:49:18] <nzvip>		$GLOBALS['wgParser']->setHook('streamline', 'Streamline::Parser');
[22:52:17] <siebrand>	brion: lots of great proze in some of your commit messages lately. :)
[22:52:42] <brion>	:D
[22:52:49] <nzvip>	brion is like brian without the a.
[22:52:56] <brion>	brin?
[22:53:00] <nzvip>	Indeed.
[22:53:26] <nzvip>	Do you know whether I can set a hook within a class, brion?
[22:53:40] *AaronSchulz 	gets Al Gore tickets
[22:53:51] <nzvip>	Ooo Al Gore.
[22:54:30] <brion>	nzvip: what do you mean by 'within a class', exactly?
[22:54:54] <nzvip>	I have a class, and I want to add a hook for my <streamline> tag to call a function within that class.
[22:56:21] <brion>	as a static call?
[22:56:26] <brion>	should work, iirc
[22:56:31] <nzvip>	Well...
[22:56:34] <nzvip>	I get a strange error.
[22:56:46] <nzvip>	"Tag hook for streamline is not callable "
[22:57:04] <brion>	ok, 1)
[22:57:09] <brion>	does class Streamline exist?
[22:57:18] <brion>	2) does it have a 'Parser' method?
[22:57:34] <brion>	ah wait
[22:57:36] <nzvip>	Yes and yes.
[22:57:47] <brion>	i think we don't do the awful hack from wfRunHooks() stuff for these
[22:58:01] <brion>	so use the regular PHP convention here: array( 'Classname', 'methodname' )
[22:58:06] <brion>	instead of the string
[22:58:11] <nzvip>	Ah, okay.
[22:59:04] <nzvip>	Isn't it $this-> in PHP?
[22:59:21] <nzvip>	To refer to anything within the same class.
[22:59:47] <AaronSchulz>	http://stats.grok.se/en/top
[22:59:55] <AaronSchulz>	56	Sexual intercourse	536505
[23:00:00] <AaronSchulz>	58	Masturbation	534274
[23:00:16] <AaronSchulz>	53	Love	555990
[23:00:18] <AaronSchulz>	54	Vagina	543156
[23:00:37] <AaronSchulz>	geez
[23:00:38] <AaronSchulz>	43	Penis	614870
[23:00:39] <brion>	that far down?
[23:00:56] <AaronSchulz>	12	Sex	1221250
[23:01:09] <brion>	...
[23:01:13] <brion>	9 Canine reproduction
[23:01:15] <brion>	...eww?
[23:01:33] <AaronSchulz>	wikipedia users are an interesting bunch ;)
[23:02:01] <AaronSchulz>	34	2 Girls 1 Cup	682954
[23:02:06] <AaronSchulz>	I don't even know what that is
[23:02:22] <Skizzerz>	you don't want to
[23:02:39] <AaronSchulz>	'2 Girls 1 Cup is a copy of the trailer for Hungry Bitches, a pornographic film produced by MFX-Media[1][2], with the URL "2girls1cup.com" superimposed under the pre-existing "MFX 1209" (the product code for Hungry Bitches). The trailer features two women defecating and vomiting into a cup, taking turns consuming the excrement, and vomiting into each other's mouths. Hervé Roy's "Lovers...
[23:02:41] <AaronSchulz>	...Theme"[3] plays throughout.'
[23:03:20] <Skizzerz>	as I repeat: you don't want to know >_>
[23:03:45] <nzvip>	Wikipedia?
[23:03:48] <nzvip>	Never heard of it.
[23:04:04] <brion>	interesting to see how the graphs can distinguish between fleeting popularity and consistent popularity, which raw hit counts don't
[23:04:05] <flyingparchment>	nzvip: it's a website where random people on the internet write about shit and pretend they know what they're talking about
[23:04:17] <nzvip>	Like geocities?
[23:04:20] <brion>	http://stats.grok.se/en/200802/Leap_year <- interest mostly hit around a few days (the leap day)
[23:04:26] <brion>	http://stats.grok.se/en/200802/Sexual_intercourse <- always popular
[23:06:07] <nzvip>	Of course.
[23:06:40] <brion>	http://stats.grok.se/en/200802/Harriet_Tubman <- historical figures much more popular during the school week
[23:06:45] <brion>	http://stats.grok.se/en/200802/IPod <- still popular on the weekends
[23:11:29] <Splarka>	hmm, is it valid xhtml 1.0 to have multiple IDs on an object?
[23:11:33] <carl-m>	no
[23:11:37] <carl-m>	wait
[23:11:40] <carl-m>	I dunno
[23:11:43] <carl-m>	I read it backwards
[23:12:14] <Splarka>	either <object id="foo" id="bar"> , or <object id="foo bar"> ?
[23:12:42] <carl-m>	"In XML, fragment identifiers are of type ID, and there can only be a single attribute of type ID per element. "
[23:13:17] <carl-m>	http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/
[23:13:40] <brion>	only one id allowed
[23:13:42] <brion>	that's what id means ;)
[23:14:01] <brion>	you can have multiple classes, though: class="aclass anotherclass somebetterclass"
[23:14:22] <Splarka>	hmm
[23:14:31] <Splarka>	well, only one instance of each id, of course
[23:14:37] <Splarka>	ahhm hmm: "If an element has multiple ID attributes, all of them must be treated as IDs for that element for the purposes of the ID selector. Such a situation could be reached using mixtures of xml:id [XMLID], DOM3 Core [DOM-LEVEL-3-CORE], XML DTDs [XML10] and namespace-specific knowledge."
[23:14:54] <Splarka>	(of course, one shouldn't... but the parser should support it)
[23:15:39] <Dashiva>	Hell, you could declare @src to be of type ID if you really wanted, but it's still a bad idea :)
[23:15:55] <Splarka>	brion: reason is, modern is the only skin (even counting untemplated skins) with no <div id="content">, it should have one, simply because all the rest do, it was sure nice to be able to rely on, even if it had no coherent definition between skins
[23:16:28] <Splarka>	document.getElementById('content').appendChild(document.createTextNode('hello world!'))
[23:17:34] <carl-m>	the xml recommendations don't give any reasoning why there can only be one id
[23:17:39] <carl-m>	but they require it
[23:19:42] *Splarka 	would suggest <div id="mw_contentholder"> be changed to <div class="mw_contentholder" id="content"> then, but bets it'd get reverted
[23:20:05] <carl-m>	why not just add a div?
[23:20:13] <Splarka>	too many in it already
[23:20:56] <Splarka>	<div id="mw_main"><div id="mw_contentwrapper"><div id="mw_content"><div id="mw_contentholder">
[23:21:13] <carl-m>	too many? 
[23:21:15] <carl-m>	there's a limit?
[23:22:03] <Splarka>	a human readability limit, eventually
[23:22:05] <Skizzerz>	it makes it hard to navigate via DOM
[23:22:22] <Skizzerz>	(using child and parent properties/methods)
[23:40:58] <nzvip>	brion, is it possible that MediaWiki has cached my extension and not getting the things I change?
[23:41:04] <nzvip>	Cause it seems only to give "part" of the output.
[23:41:21] <nzvip>	Unless of course it parses it afterwards.
[23:41:24] <brion>	yes.
[23:42:48] <nzvip>	How can I fix that?
[23:47:43] <CIA-50>	03brion * r33760 10/trunk/phase3/includes/User.php: 
[23:47:43] <CIA-50>	Fix regression with confirmation e-mails sent via Special:Confirmemail.
[23:47:43] <CIA-50>	Recent changes to User object made User::sendConfirmationEmail() *not* save the new confirmation token to the database, which seems rather odd. As a result, you got a mail with a bogus value.
[23:47:43] <CIA-50>	Since the function has side-effects, it pretty clearly needs to be saving its changes. Went ahead and had it do that rather than forcing all callers to fix its internal failing.