[00:06:52] 03tstarling * r34031 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Revert r33961: adds a connection to centralauth and two centralauth queries to every logged-in page view. [00:53:01] 03(mod) Main Wikipedia site is unreadable after final rendering on Treo 650 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2090 +comment (10nzingans6) [01:07:26] 03(NEW) SVGs render improperly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13885 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ImageMap; (stephenshep) [02:29:27] so i have 3 users that are getting notification emails that are bouncing, i set mailverified in the users table to false and set their email addresses to '' but it's still trying to send them mail! i've done a mysql dump and verifiefd that their addresses are nowhere in the database.. any ideas? [02:51:30] 03(NEW) Advanced (boolean) #ask: functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13886 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (naught101) [02:52:36] is the wikibugs bot owner aware that the bug reports aren't readable for people with black backgrounds in their IRC console? [02:53:29] 14(WFM) Allow Semantic Properties to be set without being displayed inline. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11910 +comment (10info) [02:57:02] http://www.religionisfree.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit§ion=2 < Any idea of what I could have done to cause that? [02:57:34] Or futhermore, how I can fix it! :D [03:08:56] 03(NEW) no warning if property specifies an allows_value that is illegal for its type - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13887 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (info) [03:41:41] anon1532_: I'll take a peek [03:41:49] are you running HEAD? [03:52:22] 03(NEW) Mailing lists search does not support Arabic properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13888 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (meno25wiki) [03:55:14] anon1532_: can't reproduce that [04:21:30] AaronSchulz: negative on HEAD [04:21:31] 03(NEW) Cleaning up user renames - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13889 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (MZMcBride) [04:21:41] wikibugs: Indeed. [04:21:52] *AaronSchulz gives wikibugs a cookie [04:22:19] I think it occured when I imported a list of articales from Wikipedia that I retrieved using Special:Export. [04:22:36] anon1532_: first, I'd SVN up [04:23:03] Translation for noob = [04:23:29] you have TSVN or something right? [04:23:36] Nope! [04:23:41] *AaronSchulz hopes it wasn't done via copy-paste [04:23:43] I don't know what TSVN is. :O [04:24:20] *AaronSchulz whistles [04:24:26] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/SVN [04:24:32] I really don't know what I'm doing. All I know is that everything functioned properly until I imported a list of pages. [04:26:13] anon1532_: you really should learn SVN [04:26:18] for, now, go to localsettings.php [04:26:32] add: [04:26:37] $wgParserConf = array( [04:26:39] 'class' => 'Parser_OldPP', [04:26:41] 'preprocessorClass' => 'Preprocessor_DOM', [04:26:42] ); [04:27:33] $wgParserConf = array( class' => 'Parser_OldPP','preprocessorClass' => 'Preprocessor_DOM',); like that? [04:27:34] actually, set 'preprocessorClass' to 'Preprocessor_Hash' [04:27:44] but, yeah [04:29:22] When I say I don't know what I'm doing what I mean to say is that I have absolutely zero experience doing anything related to server/linux/code/programing of any kind/php/etc, the project just got dumped on to me because the one maintaining it vanished without a trace and nobody else is qualified to do the work. somebody has to, even if it involves me learning an entirely new skill set. [04:30:04] $wgParserConf = array( class' => 'Parser_OldPP','preprocessorClass' => 'Preprocessor_Hash',); [04:30:07] did you set that? [04:30:13] i am setting it now [04:30:28] done [04:30:44] hmm [04:31:29] anon1532_: ok, that doesn't seem to be it [04:31:36] the problem is at a higher level [04:31:45] yeah that just made the subedits not load at all [04:31:46] anon1532_: I'd disable all extensions [04:32:00] it is the same problem really [04:32:04] actually it broke the site :D [04:32:37] anon1532_: to localsettings.php, at the top, add: [04:32:43] error_reporting( E_ALL ); [04:33:15] when you say the top, do you mean the very very top? [04:33:27] well, after it's not *that * important where though [04:33:45] kk [04:33:46] done [04:34:42] anon1532_: did you disable all extensions? [04:34:50] lol no, i will now :O [04:35:12] anon1532_: btw, did you download from a stable release? [04:35:15] i can do that by adding # to the extensions in localsettings.php, yes? [04:35:18] yes [04:35:22] right [04:35:28] the current version is 1.12 from mediawiki [04:35:36] #require_once( blah... ); [04:35:55] all disabled. [04:36:12] 'Error, Setup.php must be included from the file scope, after DefaultSettings.php' [04:36:22] I think you made some typo or something ;) [04:36:46] nah i disabled default settings accidently [04:36:58] everything else disabled, still showing same error log [04:38:26] you may want to download the latest stable release [04:38:35] in the mean time, I am going to test 1.12 now [04:38:41] just go ahead and reinstall then? [04:39:06] you should get SVN, and just check it out [04:39:11] that way, updating is easy [04:39:22] alright [04:39:36] when we first updated to 1.12 everything was working fine [04:39:44] it didn't break until i did the imports :\ [04:40:35] adding the text should work fine [04:40:41] the parser is broken somehow [04:40:46] same text works on my 1.13 [04:40:58] I am going to test to see if 1.12 has problems [04:41:06] or if it is just you :) [04:42:14] i should probably just roll back [04:42:16] beh [04:42:47] *AaronSchulz checks out 1.12 [04:43:44] the guy who installed 1.12 refused to install 1.13 because it's not offically released yet [04:44:36] I can't imagine 1.12 would be that broken though ;) [04:44:51] there wasn't anything i did to the server to cause it [04:45:58] anon1532_: so do you know *the* Anonymous? [04:46:22] well, that's PM talk ;) [04:46:41] this channel is logged, they are watching [04:46:52] ok, checkout done [04:47:04] huh [04:50:25] ok, 1.12 works fine [05:05:21] when you enable parser is it normal for it to take a while to reapply? [05:06:26] heh, parser is always enabled, it's just a matter of which one. But it may act strange after switching, yes. [05:12:28] ah [05:51:22] 03(mod) Parser function on Korean Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13712 (10camway) [06:09:36] 03(mod) special firstChar() routine for Korean characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1701 (10camway) [07:00:16] 03brion * r34032 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) [07:00:16] Style cleanup on AJAX search suggestion dropdown list. [07:00:16] White borders around the highlighted row are removed by collapsing cell spacing and moving the padding inside. [07:00:16] Now using CSS system colors where supported for background, foreground, and [07:00:16] highlight colors instead of hardcoded values. These will fit in better with the [07:00:20] native controls, especially when high-contrast themes are in use (say, black [07:00:22] background, yellow text, and green highlight... :) [07:15:29] 03(NEW) add user talk namespace of En.Wikipedia to Robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13890 major; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (grahamwp) [07:16:33] 03(mod) add user talk namespace of En.Wikipedia to Robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13890 major->15enhancement; +shell (10raimond.spekking) [07:30:27] <_wooz> lo [07:30:35] 03raymond * r34033 10/branches/REL1_12/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Localisation updates German for a further release of MW 1.12 [07:45:23] haha [07:46:03] I tried to test the search thing on konqueror... the whole frigging thing is freezed (doesn't react to any input) [07:47:22] that'll teach ya to imagine a deployed feature on wikipedia is omni-browser friendly [07:48:47] for some reason it leaves white space to the right when selecting list items [07:49:07] (I can activate the text field with ctrl f shortcut) [07:59:14] 14(WFM) Advanced (boolean) #ask: functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13886 +comment (10dan_the_man) [08:23:51] How do you hide clearyourcache without blanking it (on css pages) [08:27:09] Sasoriza: the one that shows above a user skin-named css/js subpage? [08:29:20] It's the same for all, isn't it? But yeah [08:29:39] well, not the same for all [08:30:03] anyway [08:30:07] guess I could just use [08:30:08] edit MediaWiki:clearyourcache to add a wrapping object [08:30:21]
[08:30:30] then #clearyourcache-msg {display:none;} in css [08:30:44] then it is hidden but not blanked [08:30:52] cool, thx [08:30:53] well, would blank it... except on the source page [08:31:58] 03mkroetzsch * r34034 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_URI.php: quickfixed Bug 13884 as proposed, better generic regexps should be used eventually here [08:35:14] 03mkroetzsch * r34035 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DataValueFactory.php: Fixed typo [08:35:25] 03(ASSIGNED) Better validation or Type:URL and Type:Email - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13884 summary; +comment (10markus) [08:37:59] 03(mod) Better validation for Type:URL and Type:Email - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13884 summary (10markus) [08:47:46] Say you wanted to put p-cactions, portlets, all that in a separate editable file. Can it be called in css? [08:49:11] Could anybody explain how to enable svg images in mediawiki? [08:49:52] "called in css" ? [08:51:16] bad use of words, maybe [08:51:53] so you could say "display:visible", maybe [08:52:19] probably have to hack it? [08:52:58] I'm trying to get them so I can change their arrangement more easily than through css [08:53:27] in HTML, you'd use a table [08:53:33] sort of like that [08:54:00] ahh, well, you'd probably have to hack the skin up quite a bit [08:54:10] figured [08:55:50] anon1532_: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Image_Administration [08:55:54] also: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/SVG [09:10:00] hello! i copy wikimedia to my virtual machine cuz i wanted to test if it will success update before applying on real one. i exported and imported database and then copy files...all works fines just i can get working stylesheets - wikimedia shows all info with no style. any help? [09:10:52] Is there a backlink extension for mediawiki? [09:11:04] Mangusta: why would you need an extension? click 'what links here' on the left [09:11:06] os a method for retrieving/caching back links from a page? [09:11:18] yes, but want to place the links into the page itself [09:11:41] (I'm looking at ways of creating dynamic content linking based on naming conventions [09:14:54] hello... is there a way to force all user registrations be confirmed by sysop (i already have email confirmation enabled)? [09:21:54] http://www.religionisfree.org/ I broke something huge. :O [09:24:01] possibly [09:24:41] i have no idea what i could have possible broken. i haven't been messing with the server at all. everything was working fine a few minutes ago. i imported some pages and now the entire wiki is failing. [09:24:50] i noticed it slowed down significantly right before. [09:25:43] ok, check the load on the server [09:25:46] and the database [09:25:53] what OS, and what DB? [09:26:21] linux and unsure about the database [09:26:56] do you have shell access? [09:27:00] yeah [09:27:04] type top [09:27:27] the numbers in top right, should be a row of 3, comma separated, is load average [09:27:39] press q to quit [09:27:49] what are the numbers> [09:27:49] ? [09:27:53] one sec [09:30:52] anon1532_: if that is a problem, try running this: [09:31:09] mysqladmin -u [dbusername] -p processlist [09:31:50] and type in the db password when prompted, this should show processes that your db user has created that are running, so if there is one there that is more than a few seconds old, it could be the problem... [09:32:39] i'm look at it now [09:32:53] 03(mod) Empty diffs appear as long columns of text when viewed in Safari - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13875 (10river) [09:32:57] looking* [09:33:01] ugh it's late [09:33:40] load average is 0.03, 0.17, 0.09 [09:34:15] At peak. [09:35:14] huh... [09:35:18] well [09:35:24] odd [09:36:11] Maybe the imports I'm doing slows it down to a halt or screws up the VPN... I restarted the server a few minutes ago and now it's working fine again. [09:36:31] 03river * r34036 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES skins/Modern.php): 13168 accessibility links in Modern skin link to wrong anchor id [09:36:43] 03(FIXED) accessibility links in Modern skin link to wrong anchor id - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13168 summary; +comment (10river) [09:43:54] hm, i added NS_MAIN to $wgNamespacesWithSubpages, but it doesn't have subpages. did i miss something? [09:44:09] hey guys, I'm looking for a captcha style solution for mediawiki which will allow non-registered users to post but will cut out spam, but which also doesn't break screenreaders and other accessibility devices [09:44:10] any clues? [09:46:33] flyingparchment: what check did you do for subpageness? [[foo/bar]] will only show a backlink to [[foo]] if it exists. Another check is to try {{SUBPAGENAME}} in a preview of an edit to subpage [09:47:19] ah, that would explain it [09:50:10] 03river * r34037 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SearchEngine.php: Notice: Undefined property: PostgresSearchResult::$mRevision in /data/home/river/www/wiki/includes/SearchEngine.php on line 518 [09:53:30] 03river * r34038 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES skins/modern/main.css): (bug 13185) No line break after 'subpages' class in Modern skin [09:53:58] 03(FIXED) No line break after 'subpages' class in Modern skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13185 +comment (10river) [09:58:30] 03river * r34039 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES skins/Modern.php): (bug 13583) No "poweredby" in Modern skin [09:59:00] 03(FIXED) No "poweredby" in Modern skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13583 +comment (10river) [09:59:44] siebrand: what is an extension that uses MonobookTemplateToolboxEnd? [10:00:06] flyingparchment: Translate [10:01:44] hello! i copy wikimedia to my virtual machine cuz i wanted to test if it will success update before applying on real one. i exported and imported database and then copy files...all works fines just i can get working stylesheets - wikimedia shows all info with no style. any help? [10:06:20] flyingparchment: ehr, that was false info. [10:06:34] flyingparchment: we implement it on Betawiki in LocalSetting.php as: [10:06:42] $wgHooks['MonoBookTemplateToolboxEnd'][] = 'wfInotherToolbox'; [10:06:46] function wfInotherToolbox( &$monobook ) { [10:07:01] ( Nikerabbit put ina comment: "#ugly") :) [10:07:23] i just need something that uses that hook to add something to the toolbox [10:07:38] flyingparchment: will get that putting it in pasty now... [10:08:24] flyingparchment: http://rafb.net/p/0BQfOG88.html [10:12:11] thanks [10:18:04] 03river * r34040 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (bug 13584) New hook: SkinTemplateToolboxEnd [10:18:48] *Splarka wonders how some people can manage to make pngs bigger than the uncompressed bmp would be [10:19:08] 03(FIXED) Modern skin does not implement MonoBookTemplateToolboxEnd - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13584 +comment (10river) [10:25:17] isn't the toolbox generated from some mediawiki message? [10:25:27] or is that just for the navigation box? [10:30:42] the toolbox is kinda annoying [10:32:00] hi ialex [10:32:05] buildNavUrls () in SkinTemplate.php (meaning it is different for non-template skins of course) [10:32:25] hello Nikerabbit [10:32:45] that's why I use a completely customizable skin on all installs [10:33:23] well, that gives even more feature creep, no? [10:34:33] Splarka, nah, it's just another mediawiki message that contains the skin [10:35:07] does it hook into the skintemplate ? [10:35:20] it's bound to be a bit slower, but it's not noticable for small sites [10:35:55] (how would you, for example, duplicate the toolbox conditionals like monobook has?) [10:36:27] Splarka, ah, I have a special parser function for emulating parts of monobook [10:36:43] the toolbox is VERY annoying [10:37:03] but on most websites, I end up making my own mediawiki messages that contain those [10:37:04] {{#ifeq:User:Zocky|Nut|You're nuts}} [10:37:11] yeah [10:38:28] {{#if:{{#user:can|delete}}|[{{url:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=delete}} {{int:delete}}]}} [10:39:45] I think I'm going to add another subfunction to my {{#title: function for those links [10:40:06] {{#title:link|Foo:Bar/Baz|delete}} [10:40:36] permanent link/related changes? cite? printable? whatlinkshere? user contribs/logs? email user? [10:41:06] they're all easily constructed from the user and the title [10:41:27] i do most of those already [10:42:16] it's really no harder writing them in wikisyntax than writing them in PHP in yet another skin class [10:42:51] *Splarka bets the overhead would make domas cry [10:43:13] well, it probably wouldn't be appropriate for a website like wikipedia [10:43:29] but that's not the kind of website I usually need to make [10:44:08] the logged-out visitors get pages from the file cache anyway [10:50:12] hello! i copy wikimedia to my virtual machine cuz i wanted to test if it will success update before applying on real one. i exported and imported database and then copy files...all works fines just i can get working stylesheets - wikimedia shows all info with no style. any help? [10:53:32] is there a global for the path to languages? [10:55:02] i think i want to move languages somewhere else, so that they can be downloaded from my svn separately [10:55:03] 03(mod) no text in search results when the match is up to diacritics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13849 (10catlow) [10:56:48] zocky, you should put up tuts for how you do your stuff [10:56:53] might be interesting [10:59:02] i absolutely.... [10:59:05] hate this software [10:59:18] Sasoriza, I'm setting up the svn repository, when I do that, I'll set up a wiki with demos of all the extensions [10:59:26] Sasoriza, should be done in a few weeks [11:00:07] phpwiki is way better [11:00:16] cool, let me know [11:00:53] sasorize [11:00:55] sasorize [11:00:56] sasorize [11:00:58] sasorize [11:01:04] sosoriza [11:01:06] sosoriza [11:01:15] sasoriza [11:01:29] flyingparchment [11:01:30] flyingparchment [11:01:32] flyingparchment [11:01:34] flyingparchment [11:01:35] flyingparchment [11:01:37] flyingparchment [11:01:38] flyingparchment [11:01:40] flyingparchment [11:01:41] flyingparchment [11:01:43] flyingparchment [11:01:44] flyingparchment [11:01:46] flyingparchment [11:01:47] flyingparchment [11:01:49] flyingparchment [11:01:50] flyingparchment [11:01:52] flyingparchment [11:01:58] flyingparchment [11:02:00] flyingparchment [11:02:02] flyingparchment [11:02:04] flyingparchment [11:02:06] flyingparchment [11:02:06] somebody boot this dork [11:02:08] flyingparchment [11:02:10] flyingparchment [11:02:12] flyingparchment [11:02:14] flyingparchment [11:02:16] flyingparchment [11:02:18] flyingparchment [11:02:20] flyingparchment [11:02:22] flyingparchment [11:02:24] flyingparchment [11:02:26] flyingparchment [11:02:28] flyingparchment [11:02:30] flyingparchment [11:02:32] flyingparchment [11:02:34] flyingparchment [11:02:36] flyingparchment [11:02:38] flyingparchment [11:02:40] flyingparchment [11:02:42] flyingparchment [11:02:44] flyingparchment [11:02:46] flyingparchment [11:02:48] flyingparchment [11:02:50] flyingparchment [11:03:34] 03(mod) no text in search results when the match is up to diacritics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13849 +comment (10rainman) [11:04:17] :| [11:04:19] pliz don't do that [11:04:23] !op [11:04:23] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "op". You might try: !cms !documentation !errors !highlight !html !install !moderation !mwhelp !openid !oversight !package !refresh !repeat !shell !sop !templates !threads !tidy !welcome !xampp [11:04:25] any devs ? [11:04:29] werdan7 [11:04:31] !op spamming a dev [11:04:31] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "op". You might try: !cms !documentation !errors !highlight !html !install !moderation !mwhelp !openid !oversight !package !refresh !repeat !shell !sop !templates !threads !tidy !welcome !xampp [11:04:33] oi [11:04:47] sorry :( [11:04:55] war: that bot is for the software ^_^ [11:05:15] i was pinging the channel ops :P [11:05:28] so was freddy [11:05:30] heh [11:05:37] XD [11:05:49] yeah we are neighbours, he was a kiwi ;p [11:07:36] 03(mod) Search within history of articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10643 (10N/A) [11:09:14] 03(NEW) hidden categories wiped out on subpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13891 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (alistrius) [11:10:53] a fruit? [11:11:26] or a bird? [11:11:59] or a rock? [11:12:29] or a wiki in shatro-talk? [11:13:25] a new zealander :P [11:14:49] I'm a kiwi as well [11:15:02] it was you :O [11:15:26] :p Theres a lot of kiwi users [11:15:32] You should have seen our latest meetup [11:15:40] oohh pics? :DDD [11:15:47] Sure half just came for the lunch, but still fun. [11:15:52] Ill look it up, one sec [11:15:55] were you all talking about Rugby? :P [11:16:06] not really [11:16:09] We did mention it [11:16:54] *Sasoriza thinks of "rug" when hearing rugby [11:17:12] Warpath: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland_3 [11:18:36] can I interrupt with a mediawiki tech question? [11:19:11] aure :) [11:19:21] jdownie, just go ahead & ask [11:19:25] ahh sure.. the devs are useless anyways :) [11:19:52] ??? [11:20:06] jdownie, question? :D [11:20:21] we have one lamp server that has information in it's mysql database on our servers and we'd like to set up a template that could fetch out a nice table summarizing that server on a qiki for that server. [11:20:31] sorry, couldn't type very fast. [11:20:46] so, if we have one server called blah... [11:20:57] we'd like a wiki that contains all of our notes and junk on that servver [11:21:12] perhaps with a template with static stuff like ip address, hardware specs. [11:21:28] we were hoping that the template could be something like {{ServerInfo|blah}} [11:21:47] but we don't know the best way to bridge the gap between the mediawiki server and the mysql sevrer. [11:21:49] any tips? [11:22:14] Are you comfortable with PHP? [11:22:18] yup [11:23:36] You could do it as a custom special page, that you could include, like {{Special:ServerInfo/ipaddress}} or something like that [11:24:06] I think there is an extension to let users arbitrratily insert PHP code into pages and have it run on render, but that might be a bit unsecure [11:24:15] okay. so templates aren't "Special:" enough? [11:24:19] we tried [11:24:34] but we spent a lot of time debugging around the limited include capabilities. [11:25:01] and the variable scope didn't span across blocks on the one wiki. [11:25:25] so... $x=5; echo $x; wouldn't do anything [11:25:49] Special: pages are handled by PHP files in mediawiki, so you can code them to do anything you like [11:25:55] had hoped to use that kind of syntax to do a mysql query first and then drop the values into a wiki table. [11:26:17] oooh, that sounds nice. that explains why the mediawiki statistics are "Special:" [11:26:32] okay, i think you've given me something to read about. thanks for the tip. [11:28:01] TheFearow: Are you from the mediawiki support? noticed mediawiki installation problem and wonder where to report it... [11:31:25] RaverWild: No, we're all unofficial support here [11:31:46] If its just a problem, report it here. If you think its a bug, report it on http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org [11:31:52] <_jz> Hello ! [11:31:57] TheFearow, thanks [11:33:11] <_jz> (stupid question) what is the default name of an admin on mediawiki ? [11:33:26] WikiSysop [11:34:23] <_jz> thank you ! [11:35:17] <_jz> hmm "user 'WikiSysop" doesn't exist... is that possible ? [11:35:53] <_jz> arrr ok i must've renamed it, sorry for the noise :) [11:37:23] <_jz> and where to you allow upload of files ? [11:37:34] <_jz> is that in WikiSysop admin, or in config files ? [11:38:00] Duesentrieb: PING [11:38:01] !wg EnableUploads [11:38:01] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgEnableUploads [11:38:16] <_jz> arrr /me will RTFM thank you [11:38:30] hehe :) [11:38:38] ialex: that must be the most simplest bot trigger I've seen [11:39:08] <_jz> i thought i did enable this /LocalSettings.php though... weird [11:40:11] _jz: i think it's already in LocalSettings.php but set to false [11:40:32] <_jz> yes, and I set it to true, and it came back to false by itself actually [11:40:42] <_jz> maybe i don't edit the right file at the right place, i'll RTFM a bit more :) [11:42:42] _jz, also make sure that the upload directory is writable by apache [11:42:50] <_jz> arr ! [11:42:59] <_jz> what is the default upload directory ? [11:43:22] ./images I think [11:43:59] <_jz> it is writable by www-data user... [11:59:23] 03(NEW) New installation overwrites old configuration files, does not take care of additional directories too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13892 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (e.antonoff) [12:11:47] 03(mod) Request feature: Subpages of Shortcuts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12980 +comment (10ksamudra) [12:13:13] Is it possible to have a switch between http and https to show up on every page? Somewhere in the navigation f.e. or in the top line? [12:15:22] 14(INVALID) New installation overwrites old configuration files, does not take care of additional directories too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13892 +comment (10daniel) [12:17:44] How would you manually url Special:Whatlinkshere in Mediawiki:Sidebar? [12:21:09] ah, too bad splarka is gone.... I have another project underway that he would find shocking :) [12:22:02] hello everyone [12:22:54] i was wondering how can i make a hierarchical menu (with categories and pages under categories) replacing the navigation menu? [12:23:14] or just links in the navigation menu? [12:28:42] axelor: Perhaps something like this: http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?title=Main_Page [12:47:49] How would you manually url Special:Whatlinkshere in Mediawiki:Sidebar? "whatlinkshere" by itself isn't working... [12:49:21] 03(NEW) Name and ID for controls on the "hide revisions" page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13893 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Oversight; (FT2.wiki) [12:56:24] I just updated my mediawiki install to 1.12 and i'm getting this error when trying to create a new page: http://wiki.csclub.dyndns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Constitution&action=edit [12:56:48] can someone possibly provide some assistance? [13:03:35] dystopianray, you need to run the update maintenance script [13:03:39] see the UPGRADE file [13:04:18] zocky: I did run it [13:04:50] then I don't know :\ [13:05:37] insert protected_titles maybe? [13:06:21] I've had that problem, but can't remember how I fixed it [13:07:14] 03(NEW) Lithuanian Wiktionary nead Extension:VariablesExtension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13894 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; (vpovilaitis) [13:07:26] dystopianray, run it again, and pastebin the output. [13:07:48] hrrm this is probably where the problem lies [13:07:52] i have no shell access [13:08:32] and I had to run it through php: chdir("maintenance"); system("php update.php > UPGRADE_OUTPUT"); [13:08:44] it took a minute or and generated no output [13:10:03] Maybe output is to stderr. Or maybe you didn't have write permissions. [13:10:23] the file was created [13:10:26] let me check with stderr [13:10:42] Anyway, there's a recommended (although sucky) upgrade procedure if you don't have shell access. [13:10:50] oh? [13:11:24] Simetrical: what is it? [13:11:29] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Upgrading#Alternative_2:_Re-run_the_installer [13:11:38] ah [13:11:51] running mediawiki without shell access is pretty much going to be full of suck [13:11:54] no matter what you do [13:12:00] If you can use system(), you might also be able to use phpShell. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Upgrading#Alternative_1:_phpShell [13:12:13] But yeah, we totally need better non-shell-access support. [13:17:10] 03(NEW) Lithuanian Wiktionary nead Extension:StringFunctions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13895 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; (vpovilaitis) [13:17:47] tale: yes that kind. is it the only extension avaible? if i just want to create a link to a page and just modify the navigation portlet, where should i go? [13:19:48] !sidebar [13:19:48] --mwbot-- To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [13:20:37] which brings me back to... How would you manually url Special:Whatlinkshere in Mediawiki:Sidebar? [13:20:57] 03(mod) rescaling of animated gif increase size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11822 minor->normal; +comment (10tech) [13:21:02] 03(NEW) Rendering of devanagari numbers in automatic '#' number lists - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13896 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (ksamudra) [13:25:46] No one's got an answer? Gotta be simple... though for the life of me, I can't see it [13:26:35] Otherwise gotta hack the skin *grumble* [13:26:55] I don't see why it would be different from any other page? [13:27:01] 03(mod) wikibits.js fix Formating of buttons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13837 (10dasch_87) [13:28:02] Me neither, but it doesn't go to the list of linked pages... like it needs a $1 or {{{1}}}, but that doesn't work [13:28:30] is url a verb now? [13:29:00] everything's a verb in illiterate US english [13:30:27] Sasoriza: you can't put dynamic links into the navigation sidebar if that is what you are trying to do [13:31:40] English is generally very flexible about converting words from one part of speech to another. [13:31:47] Probably because we have practically no inflections. [13:32:22] yeah... if they only would get rid of the 's finally [13:32:50] 03yaron * r34041 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_AddData.php: Fix for case where only alternate forms and no default form is specified [13:33:58] 03(mod) Rendering of devanagari numbers in automatic '#' number lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13896 -shell ; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [13:34:35] 03(mod) Rendering of devanagari numbers in automatic '#' number lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13896 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [13:34:45] 03(mod) CSS (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12788 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [13:35:09] 03yaron * r34042 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_CreateTemplate.php: Underscores removed from CSS class names [13:35:41] 03yaron * r34043 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormClasses.inc: Underscores removed from CSS class names [13:35:43] Nikerabbit, "'s" is generally considered a particle in its own right, I think, not an inflection. [13:36:06] Inflections modify single words, typically, whereas "'s" can modify whole phrases, like "the king of France's horse". [13:36:54] The remaining inflections in English are, I guess, plurals, and about two variations on verbs (-s and -ing). Plus some more variations on some verbs. [13:37:23] 03yaron * r34044 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc: CSS fixes, including removing underscores from class names [13:37:30] Simetrical: are you teaching a student of computer lingvistics? :o [13:37:42] Simetrical, is the possessive class', class's, or class'es? [13:37:46] No, I just read the Wikipedia articles. :D [13:38:21] Sasoriza, either class' or class's, I guess. That's orthography, not linguistics. :P [13:38:21] (something that was bugging me yesterday) [13:38:35] *Simetrical would use class' [13:38:54] That's what I thought, but something about it doesn't look right [13:39:36] blame Wiredtape for that :) [13:41:06] 03yaron * r34045 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormEditTab.php: [13:41:06] 'Edit with form' and 'Edit' tab are renamed to to 'View form' and 'View [13:41:06] source', respectively, if user can't edit the page; 'View source' tab is [13:41:06] actually hidden if user chooses to hide it. [13:43:37] 03yaron * r34046 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/languages/SF_Messages.php: [13:43:37] 'addpage' value changed to 'Add page with form', 'sf_viewform' added, [13:43:37] some other variables renamed [13:44:55] 03yaron * r34047 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/skins/SF_main.css: Underscores removed from CSS class names [13:45:21] 03(mod) Rendering of devanagari numbers in automatic '#' number lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13896 (10ksamudra) [13:47:13] 03(mod) Printable version link not properly formatted with Modern skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13880 (10alex.emsenhuber) [13:47:32] the current version of mediawiki is [13:47:41] 1.13svn [13:47:45] and it is the current version of all [13:47:51] wikimedia projects [13:47:55] 03yaron * r34048 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/ (INSTALL includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php): New version: 1.1.1 [13:47:57] ? [13:48:46] which version should be used for bug report of wikipedia ? [13:48:56] soroush: 1.13-svn [13:49:08] hi ialex [13:49:19] hello Nikerabbit [13:49:28] ialex: but the wikipedia version is 1.13 alpha [13:49:44] it is different from svn [13:50:11] soroush: svn because this s the code from subversion, actuallyit's exactelythe same [13:50:25] soroush: 1.13alpha _is_ svn [13:50:34] soroush: that's how the svn release is named while it's in svn [13:50:55] i know how it is released flyingparchment [13:51:10] if you know how it's released, then you know 1.13alpha and 1.13-svn are the same :) [13:51:11] and i know the commits don't go to wikimedia [13:51:17] immediately [13:52:00] flyingparchment: wikimedia admins commit svn for wikimedia [13:52:16] and? [13:52:18] but it isn't done everyday or everyweek afaik [13:52:35] except if it has been changed since 6 months before! [13:53:38] Morning, I was wondering if someone can help me [13:54:26] what's the point of ca-nstab-main? [13:54:51] A friend of mine upgrades mediawiki from 1.6 to 1.12 [13:55:01] but I still unable to access mediawiki:common.js [13:55:03] or edittools [13:55:10] http://www.nevaha.com/ordo/wiki/index.php5?title=Special:Version [13:55:18] Are we doing something wrong? [13:56:02] IRONxDevi: simply create that page: http://www.nevaha.com/ordo/wiki/index.php5?title=MediaWiki:Common.js&action=edit [13:56:15] 03(NEW) bad interwiki for [[fa:]] in special page BookSources - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13897 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (Soroush83) [13:57:25] Hmm, same with edittools? [13:57:29] soroush: edit booksources-summary or something [13:58:02] IRONxDevi: yes [13:58:46] IRONxDevi: You're logged in? [13:59:29] Nikerabbit: yes [13:59:42] 03(NEW) ImagePage refers to local server for Upload new version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13898 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (matrixhasu) [13:59:55] just a your tiny touch can solve the problem [14:00:20] let me see [14:00:28] soroush: no I can't probably [14:00:35] I'm not admin at enwiki [14:01:01] Nikerabbit: are interwikis set in mediawiki ns [14:01:36] soroush: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Book_sources&diff=prev&oldid=209228289 [14:01:40] hehe [14:03:08] 14(INVALID) bad interwiki for [[fa:]] in special page BookSources - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13897 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [14:03:55] thanks ialex [14:04:08] i made that mistake because [14:04:09] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/0140174915 [14:04:16] was in special namespace [14:04:37] soroush: Special:BookSources is a bit sepcial ;) [14:04:59] *special [14:05:08] ialex: is the wikipedia:book.. included in that namespace for all wikipedias? [14:05:10] iAlex do you own an iPod? [14:05:25] Shiroi_Neko: no [14:05:28] aww [14:05:28] How could I text-transform:lowercase; h elements in all but a select ns? [14:05:34] so you arent part of the iMania [14:06:30] soroush: it should, but page name vary with content language [14:06:37] *Sasoriza grumbles, where's Splarka when you need 'im [14:07:11] ialex: aha . thanks [14:09:48] Sasoriza: body.ns--1 h, body.ns-0 h, body.ns-1h, ..., body.ns-15 h { text-transform:lowercase; } (or something like that), just don't set it for the namespace you want to not be like that [14:11:45] or maybe body.ns- h1, body.ns-0 h2, body.ns-0 h3, body.ns-0 h4, body.ns-0 h5, body.ns-0 h6, ... but this can make a lot of conditions [14:11:58] * body.ns-0 [14:12:59] isn't there a no in advanced css selectors? [14:13:39] Another question is there website where freeware skins for WIki can be found? [14:13:51] ialex: thanx. was looking for a way to do it without specifying all the ns's, but that'll work too. [14:15:02] Duesentrieb: around? [14:15:03] Nikerabbit: you can set text-transform:lowercase; by default and set text-transform:none; !important for a specific ns [14:15:13] ugly [14:15:26] AzaTht: not really, still stuck on my thesis. what's up? [14:15:34] hehe [14:15:47] hey i was wodnering if could get some help :D [14:16:07] im trying to instal media wiki and im getting lots of errors :S [14:16:17] Duesentrieb: there was/is some discussion about TW and Gadgets at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Vandal_making_use_of_Twinkle [14:16:24] though you might have a pointer [14:16:46] !install [14:16:46] --mwbot-- Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at . See also: !download [14:17:12] Aar0n: any specific errors? [14:17:32] lots of warnings but at the end it has a fatal error [14:17:41] !php [14:17:41] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "php". You might try: !actions !adminsettings !blankpage !bom !conf !config !domdocument !dpl !dumphtml !errors !extranamespace !import !newusergroup !query !scap !session !tidyforidiots !uploads !version !xampp [14:17:51] !version [14:17:51] --mwbot-- To find out the version of your MediaWiki installation, visit the page Special:Version. Should the wiki be broken, but you have access to the program files, find $wgVersion in DefaultSettings.php. [14:18:07] Aar0n: what php version are you using? [14:18:29] http://sto.st.funpic.org/wiki/ [14:18:32] u can se erros there [14:18:48] !DOMDocument [14:18:48] --mwbot-- If the DOM_Document class is missing, install PHP's XML module (and restart Apache) or set $wgParserConf['preprocessorClass'] = 'Preprocessor_Hash' (see for details) [14:19:12] ialex: was just on my way to point that out ツ [14:19:27] :) [14:19:43] funky security settings [14:19:51] yeah :( [14:19:59] smells non-permissive webhost [14:20:11] PHP Version [14:20:11] 5.2.5 [14:20:21] that's fine/ok [14:20:41] Aar0n: own host or web hotel? [14:20:49] 03greg * r34049 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (postgres/tables.sql updaters.inc): Add pf_memory to profiling table for Postgres [14:20:55] ? [14:21:00] funpic.org are the host [14:21:10] AzaTht: the (for me) most simple and convenient solution is this: write some standard js function that checks the current user's name against some blacklist when a critical action is performed. [14:21:32] the blacklist could be edited by admins. simple way to implement a selective block. [14:21:38] and very flexible, too. [14:22:01] can be circumvented by editing js of course. but then, you can have any js you want using greasemonkey anyway, if you are into that kinf of thing [14:22:07] anyway, back to the thesis. [14:22:14] Duesentrieb: true, but how would I implement such to not make an request at each action [14:22:32] needs some thinking [14:23:15] *AzaTht thinks [14:23:38] *Aar0n also thinks [14:24:07] Aar0n: don't think you can on your own install DomDocument on your host [14:24:19] :( [14:24:21] AzaTht: client side cache? anyway, if it's only done for critical actions, it's not so bad. [14:24:22] so it wont work? [14:24:38] set $wgParserConf['preprocessorClass'] = 'Preprocessor_Hash'; [14:24:51] AzaTht: anyway, restricting to user groups is even simpler. user groups are available as a js array. just check for autoconfirmed and abort if it's not there. [14:25:03] where? [14:25:15] LocalSettings.php [14:25:28] ok ill give it a go sec [14:25:37] ialex: Thanks again! [14:25:53] np :) [14:26:06] Duesentrieb: that's allready done, but 4 days isn't much sometimes [14:26:40] AzaTht: check emailconfirmed, then... [14:26:49] that might be too restrictive, though [14:26:49] that's a though [14:26:55] *shrug* [14:26:55] removed in 1.13 [14:27:15] ialex: preprocessor hash? [14:27:24] hi! I'd like to learn how I can input URL that are constantly used all over the wiki to make them into some sort of site-wide macro that can be easily edited to update the real URL or eveyr occcurance of this macro all over the wiki. [14:27:30] AzaTht: no, emailconfirmed group [14:27:31] was just going to ask if that isn't deprecated [14:27:34] ok [14:27:39] why? [14:28:00] because of centralautn [14:28:09] auth [14:30:33] 03(mod) Rendering of devanagari numbers in automatic '#' number lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13896 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [14:30:38] !templates | Q-FUNK [14:30:38] --mwbot-- Q-FUNK: For more information about templates, see . The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions and enabling HTML Tidy . [14:32:38] How do I allow a cloned mediawiki installation to rerun the config script? [14:32:54] When I try and run it, it tells me my wiki is configured - is there some lock file somewhere I need to delete? [14:33:06] cool it worked [14:33:13] ty ialex [14:33:26] anyone know how i get rid of all them warnings? [14:33:38] StanAccy: ? [14:34:03] Hiya again :) [14:34:03] StanAccy: delete LocalSettings [14:34:07] .php [14:34:12] ah, thanks! [14:34:13] Does anyone know a website with collection of MediaWiki skins? [14:34:32] Searched through mediawiki.org and there was only a handful of them :) [14:34:33] did you try searching mediawiki's site? [14:34:39] or trying #mediawiki on freenode? [14:34:47] or did you think #php was the best place to start [14:34:57] *apathy- makes tard noises at IRONxDevi [14:35:42] oh [14:35:43] wow [14:35:46] worry, pal [14:35:49] woring window :) [14:35:56] I'm not usually in this netwrok ;) [14:36:08] *apathy- makes tard noises at himself [14:36:10] .. [14:36:19] 03greg * r34050 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialListusers.php: Call useIndexClause, not raw FORCE INDEX. [14:36:25] Feel like an ass right now, dontcha? [14:36:32] yeah, you could say that :) [14:37:01] !skins | IRONxDevi [14:37:01] --mwbot-- IRONxDevi: Overview: . Skin usage: . Gallery of CSS styles: . Writing your own: [14:37:10] So...we host one wiki on wikia.com and they pretty nifty skins up there, but I'm sure it's all copyrighted and stuff :) [14:37:21] IRONxDevi: someone started to make a dedicated site... no idea what became of it. [14:37:31] Oh, Duesentrieb don't have a linkie? [14:37:40] i forget :P [14:37:42] Simetrical: I already have a wiki page with the URL I need to become a constant. I'm still not sure how to insert that in a normal [url text] syntax. [14:37:43] bah :) [14:38:13] AzaTht ialex any ideas as to how i can get rid of all the warnings? [14:39:43] Simetrical: for the sidebar, just creating a page called e.g. MediaWiki:externalsite1-url whose only content is the URL and then using externalsite1-url|text worked. [14:40:09] Simetrical: I don't seem to be able to produce something similar elsewhere in the wiki content [14:40:22] Hmm, most of the stuff in Gallery is just a rework on monobook, right? :) [14:41:12] IRONxDevi: can't find it. it was proposed by aBSDaemon - maybe you can catch him on irc [14:41:29] Alright, thanks bud :) [14:41:30] yes, most is just "soft" skinning, i.e. CSS tweaks [14:41:50] Looking for something similar to: sentinels.wikia.com [14:41:52] "styles" or "themes" is really the better term [14:42:12] http://sentinels.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page [14:42:29] Ahh, tried searching for templates...came up with bioboxes X_X Rather new to Wiki, hehe [14:42:31] *IRONxDevi lost [14:42:44] templates are a different concept [14:42:51] reusable wiki-code [14:44:34] 03greg * r34051 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/postgres/compare_schemas.pl: Check that no MySQL-isms have snuck into the codebase. [14:45:31] G_SabinoMullane: "mysql-ism" :p [14:48:06] Duesentrieb, so can't think of anything similar to this? :) [14:50:40] Actually, hmmm how hard is to substitute monobook sidebar with the bar with has dropdown boxes and menus? [14:51:03] The side bar only thing we need, then we can just change css stuff around, much easier :) [14:52:24] 03greg * r34052 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/postgres/compare_schemas.pl: Minor cleanups. [14:53:59] What's the name of the left hand navigation panel (Im trying to edit its contents) [14:54:04] but cant fgind it [14:54:13] 03(NEW) Add name and ID fields to the main Checkuser form and its controls - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13899 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CheckUser; (FT2.wiki) [14:55:27] mediawiki:sidebar ? [14:55:43] sidebar! Thanks [14:55:56] Sure, hehe [14:55:59] WOOHOO first help :D [14:56:19] Hmm [14:56:22] I still cant find it though [14:56:34] Im searching for sidebar, in all the spaces [14:57:04] it usually goes: http://yoururl.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar [14:58:04] Nope, not there [14:58:04] StanAccy: Or blaablaa?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar if that kind of URL is used in your wiki. [14:58:19] this will let me edit it? [14:58:32] StanAccy: You need to be sysop to edit that page. [14:58:34] *facepalm* pretty URLs X_X [14:58:58] Im logged in as sysop [14:59:33] index.php?title..... [14:59:35] got it [14:59:36] thanks [14:59:43] Whats the name of the footer stuff? [14:59:56] StanAccy: Read the FAQ [15:01:26] :-) That helps. Thanks [15:01:41] Bit of a pain that some things you can edit online, and others you have to edit the skin files [15:01:43] :-( [15:02:20] tale, question :P [15:02:47] the said sidebar, how to make it "menu" like and not like in monobrook? :) [15:03:31] CSS? [15:04:14] from this: http://www.nevaha.com/ordo/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page [15:04:23] to this: http://sentinels.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page [15:07:40] monobroke :D [15:07:59] Nikerabbit, pardon me? :) [15:08:43] IRONxDevi: you are totally right [15:08:58] *IRONxDevi blink [15:09:32] *Nikerabbit is a fax machine [15:11:18] hey can someone help me sort out these security warnings on http://sto.st.funpic.org/wiki/ ? [15:11:53] I like how it tells you things were installed successfully, but clearly, thats not the case :-) [15:12:43] yeah :D [15:13:08] its very annoying [15:14:35] any ideas anyone? [15:14:45] Aar0n, you want to set error_reporting to 0. [15:14:45] care to repeat? [15:14:50] But you can't, if ini_set is disabled. [15:14:56] Might be possible in .htaccess. [15:15:09] Or by asking your host. It's kind of crazy to have it set to 1 on a production server. [15:15:17] The warnings themselves appear to be due to safe mode. [15:15:25] :S [15:16:40] erm where do i set error reporting to 0? [15:17:06] error_reporting( 0 ); in LocalSettings.php [15:17:29] cool :) [15:18:26] yay it works thank you guys :) [15:18:28] seems to be good now :) [15:18:33] yeah cheers mate :) [15:18:52] Er, I didn't mean error_reporting, actually, I meant display_errors. [15:18:58] But error_reporting works too. [15:20:38] yeah :) [15:20:57] What's the $wgDefaultUserOptions name for ajaxsearch, and is it boolean? [15:24:48] anyone? [15:25:03] maybe ajaxsearch [15:25:32] i'll give it a try.. i'm going to guess 1 .. (thx ialex) [15:30:23] Are there any functions\classes to handle URL protocols, e.g. file:// and http:// automatically [15:30:32] MinuteElectron: handle them how? [15:30:59] Choose the correct functions to get them, such as Http::get for http:// [15:32:27] ok.. ajaxsearch => 1 :) [15:34:05] maybe this sould be in DefaultSettings.php [15:34:18] have to go now, maybe later [15:34:32] i'm adding it to the $wgDefaultUserOptions manual on mw.org [15:38:02] Hello,I have a question about 'categorylinks' table in Wikipedia dump. [15:38:07] Can anybody help? [15:38:24] norton, ask the question [15:38:50] hi [15:39:00] There are categories like 'All_articles_with_unsourced_statements' [15:39:07] it exists into the dump [15:39:32] but they are not displayed on Wikipedia website [15:39:38] Example: [15:40:03] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Schumacher [15:40:32] This page does not display the categories 'All_articles_with_unsourced_statements' or 'Articles_with_unsourced_statements_since_June_2007' [15:40:57] But they exist into the categorylinks table dump for that page [15:41:00] norton, it's a hidden category. [15:41:02] __HIDDENCAT__ [15:41:07] !hiddencat [15:41:07] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "hiddencat". [15:41:15] How can I identify it from the dump? [15:41:31] Is there any table has this information? [15:42:23] norton, page_props, if that's in the dump yet (there might have been a lag, it should be in the next one in any event). [15:43:35] Simetrical, is 'page_props' a field or a table? [15:45:42] norton, a table, if I remembered the name right. [16:02:52] yep [16:36:52] Is it possible to prevent the "Discussion / View Source / History" options being available for non logged in users? [16:37:49] StanAccy look on mw.org for user rights [16:37:55] !userrights [16:37:55] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [16:38:46] 03jojo * r34053 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (6 files in 2 dirs): added PDF Server [16:39:12] Wiredtape: So there's nothing in the default installation of MW that will let me do this? (I already checked out that help page) [16:39:33] Ive got things locked down to no-edits by non logged in users using the LocalSettings.php [16:39:44] now Im trying to tweak the page content [16:40:02] StanAccy, it should be there.. basically anonymous (non-logged in) users are a group type, and history, and view source ( i think) are permissions [16:40:13] <^demon> StanAccy: You could make a default skin with none of those elements, but saavy users could easily get around it. [16:40:35] StanAccy, moreover, if you need further permissions, you will need to create them.. [16:40:49] ok, let me go re-read [16:40:56] either way though, people will be able to go to those pages.. but not read them.. [16:41:19] so the links will still be there? [16:41:29] Im trying to hide the links to simplify the pages as much as possible [16:42:07] the help page states that "banning viewing of history is not implemented" [16:42:17] in a non-hacked version of MW [16:42:22] am I missing something? [16:43:44] StanAccy, well.. depending on your licensing (how you choose to license the content) it might be illegal for you to hide the history revisions [16:44:06] but hiding those tabs is definetly not a problem, look up add/remove tab in the faq [16:44:08] !faq [16:44:08] --mwbot-- Before reporting a problem or requesting assistance, please check the FAQ first. The FAQ for MediaWiki can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ [16:45:05] Thats the ticket! [16:53:28] hey [16:54:51] I have a kinda noob question =P [16:57:01] ask away, Tesfan :) [16:57:27] uh, is there a way to get a private mediawiki wiki, or is it designed for large projects? [17:00:32] Ok, I ve edited MediaWiki:Monobook.css, and added the text suggested in the FAQ to hide the tabs I dont want, but the tabs are still being displayed [17:00:51] Does the Monobook.css need additional supporting text other than just a single line of: [17:01:01] <^demon> StanAccy: Try emptying your cache. [17:01:09] #ca-history { display: none; } [17:01:14] (I already flushed my cache) [17:01:52] Does the MediaWiki:Monobook.css need other text in there? (Ive never worked with CSS files before) [17:02:47] hey jack [17:03:03] rar Tes [17:04:19] StanAccy, if you want to hide tabs via Monobook, try (for example) #ca-nstab-template {display:none;} which would hide the template tab [17:04:38] and that goes into MediaWiki:Monobook.css ? [17:04:42] look in your source code for all that's displayed [17:04:45] yeah [17:04:53] Ah, thats different text that the FAQ [17:05:03] if you want it hidden by default, put it in Common.css [17:05:18] what about just hiding the history tab, for example? [17:05:26] for all non logged in users [17:05:39] #ca-history (display:none} [17:05:48] oh, well, that's different [17:06:02] I put that in there but the tab is still being shown [17:06:04] the above example would hide it, period [17:06:34] can this be done with simple edits to Monobook.css ? [17:07:19] might hace to do it in Common.css then... but anything { display:none; } should not be displayed [17:07:45] Hmm, then this is either not correct, or the file isnt being parsed [17:07:49] Tesfan: you can lock down a wiki, but the options may not always be what you want, especially if you want to mix public and private pages on the same wiki [17:08:00] there should be some helpful docs linked from the faq somewhere, sec [17:08:11] m'k [17:08:44] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Restricting_access sounds good [17:08:52] StanAccy: what do you want to restrict? [17:08:54] Would I need to get my own server for it or any other special things? [17:08:56] Sasoriza: Where does Common.css live? [17:09:07] thanks for the page [17:09:19] Aaron: Im trying to hide the history, watch and discussion tabs for non-logged in uysers [17:09:19] just switch "Monobook" in your url for "Common" [17:09:30] oh, I see [17:10:09] not sure how to hide only certain stuff from non-logged users, though; never tried it [17:10:41] Ok, so I put those lines in Common.css, but the tabs are still being displayed (even after cache flush) [17:10:41] though it would be nice to hide the history [17:11:20] well if you typed the tab names correctly, then something's a-kilter [17:12:01] I have the following two lines in MediaWiki:Common.css [17:12:12] '/* CSS placed here will be applied to all skins */ [17:12:16] #ca-history { display: none; } [17:12:22] first line without the leading ' [17:12:25] Thats it [17:12:46] Ive saved the page, logged out, logged in, flushed cache, tried both IE and Firefox. [17:12:53] The tab is still visible [17:13:04] StanAccy: do you want to hide the history too? [17:13:07] or just the tabs? [17:13:28] *Sasoriza wants to hide his history [17:13:36] 03(mod) DPL2's include parameter broken with new parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13677 (10dasch_87) [17:13:36] and some selected tabs [17:13:45] History, Watch, Discussion [17:13:52] ideally for all non-logged in users [17:14:29] Ive followed the FAQ to the letter, but it seems the entries to my .css files are not being read [17:14:53] 03brion * r34054 10/trunk/phase3/skins/common/mwsuggest.js: safari css system colors seem ok on 3.0 (webkit 523.15) [17:15:00] Being able to hide all tabs from a non-logged in user would also be fine [17:17:58] StanAccy, doing this for non-logged in would require php as i stated earlier, doing this for all members should be fine through css.. but most probably it's a problem of specification [17:18:09] try (hold on, i forgot :) ) [17:18:28] was it "ul li #ca-history"? [17:18:52] Hey Jack_Phoenix, Sasoriza :) [17:19:05] rar Wiredtape [17:19:24] lol... you really decided to crack down on the rar's didn't you Jack? [17:19:35] [17:20:07] 03brion * r34055 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Profiler.php: use query constructors; passing hostname string raw into SQL gives me the willies, even if it should always be safe [17:20:39] 03brion * r34056 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Profiler.php: and eat that unneeded table name var [17:21:23] StanAccy: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restricting_viewing_of_pages_to_approved_content [17:33:28] so i had wiki on my website, and used my own mysql server. now the website moved to a different server, but the mysql server and info was the same. instead of re-installing the wiki on the new server (through "config"), i just moved the old LocalSettings.php. now when i try to load it, it gives me (after a big loop) this line: Fatal error: Call to a member function selectRow() on a non-object in /home/nang/public_html/wiki/includes/User. [17:33:46] what's the prob? :X [17:34:13] brion: why does startprofiler need to be manually edited? :s [17:34:26] now my /MW dir has the red mark by it all the time :) [17:35:18] (you've saw what i wrote or was it too long?) [17:35:50] AaronSchulz: i guess it made sense to tim :) [17:35:59] i think i tgets loaded before regular config files or something scary like that [17:36:06] NaNg, that doesn't look like a config error but it might be because you didn't re-install... certain variables get set during installation... [17:36:59] hmmm... ok so if i'll re-install and use the old localsettings.php, will it be ok? :) [17:40:03] *Sasoriza waves at Wiredtape [17:40:31] NaNg, maybe .. but i wouldn't bet on it.. what version are you using.. ? [17:40:57] *Wiredtape waves at Sasoriza and says thank you for his comment on the template :) [17:41:01] hi, i just wanted to send in some patches for cortado and tried to create an account on bugzilla.wikimedia.org, to bad it failed. trying to log in i get Undef to trick_taint at Bugzilla/Util.pm line 67 [17:41:45] Wiredtape the latest, 1.12.X... but i think i found the prob... need to chmod it... [17:42:29] NaNg, ok , let ,me know if that fixes it.. [17:42:42] k :) [17:43:01] skin hacks get lost in updates don't they [17:43:26] Sosirza, if you do them on the come-with skins, then yes [17:43:36] do it on a custom skin if you want.. [17:43:37] crap [17:43:44] Sasoriza: hehe [17:43:59] Either use approved versions, or don't use MW :) [17:44:11] it's not really meant for that [17:44:14] Ok, I finally got the tabs to be hidden using the CSS files [17:44:16] is that the new motto ? :) [17:44:19] thanks for your help. [17:44:37] yeah, well, then someone should make configuring nav-menus easier [17:44:49] Now the advanced question: Where do I need to start editing to make it so that I can hide the tabs for anon users, but keep them visible for logged in users? [17:44:54] Sasoriza, what's the problem with navmenus? [17:45:25] I like mine across the top... it's taken me two days just to get it close to how I want it, but not close enough [17:45:49] StanAccy, first, you are welcome. Second, I believe I've answered that a couple of times now.. :) you will need to edit the skin, and localsettings.php and possibly define a new user right somewhere.. depending on what you need to do.. [17:46:14] Sasoriza, you mean on the left column on top? [17:46:22] yep [17:46:26] Wiredtape: Can this not be done on a common basis (i.e. for all skins?) [17:46:50] StanAccy, if you write the php for all skins, yes.. [17:46:54] instead of p-cactions here, p-nav, portlets there... ugh [17:47:04] Sasoriza, it is very simple to create a new skin :) [17:47:16] yeah, but I didn't want to do the work :) [17:47:19] but where is the page history / discussion etc code executed? [17:48:11] As a matter of principle, the p-stuff should be easy to customize... MW is fine for content, not the greatest for presentation [17:48:17] StanAccy, for discussion pagesm you don't really need that.. what you do need is a no edit permission coupled with a check for discussion pages.. [17:48:58] Sasoriza, I am unfortunately going to have to agree with you.. however, it is rather easy to customize if you know what you're doing.. [17:49:01] Wiredtape: Then there's the History [17:49:09] like most things in life [17:49:14] easy when you know how [17:49:55] StanAccy, History is a whole other ball game.. probably the easiest method would be to check for $wgUser->isLoggedIn() (boolean return i think) -> and then to make some sort of url check for history stuff... [17:50:41] This is of course what I am suggesting only because I don't know how you would create a new permission in an easier fashion.. [17:50:49] Sasoriza, can i check out your site? [17:50:54] Wiredtape: I know how to do it (Ive written two extensions), I just dont know where to do it [17:52:04] 03(NEW) add ogg/video and application/annodex to mimetypes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13900 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CountEdits; (j) [17:52:34] the url check can be on the skin... [17:52:43] along with the logged in check.. [17:53:01] 03(mod) add ogg/video and application/annodex to mimetypes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13900 (10j) [17:55:00] 03(NEW) new js api function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13901 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (j) [17:57:14] StanAccy: do you want people to be able to edit? [17:58:09] AaronSchulz, yes, but he doesn't want non-logged in users to see history, discussion or view source ... (nor edit them) [17:59:06] hmm, that reminds me [17:59:06] Aaron: Just those who are logged in [17:59:13] which is me and another admin [17:59:29] everyone else has read-only privs [17:59:53] and Ive stripped out (or trying to) all the additional fluff so the site becomes very simple and clear [18:00:28] Ive managed to remove the page tabs, but they are currently removed for all users (both anon and auth) [18:01:03] StanAccy, that again is something you will need to do skin wise.. and actually quite simply if you say you think that non-logged in users could do with no tabs at all :) [18:03:06] non-logged in users need no tabs. [18:03:17] to them, its just a plain web siote [18:03:29] but it allows me to edit/update from anywhere [18:04:08] StanAccy, than just add $wgUser->isLoggedIn() above the tab generating code.. :) [18:04:09] Is there full sql dump for all tables of Wikipedia? [18:05:16] not in sql [18:05:23] you need to get the data from the XML [18:05:36] Wiredtape: which would be where? [18:05:59] this is what Ive been trying to get at :-) [18:06:16] I just need one table from the Wikipedia DB [18:06:17] StanAccy, no, this is different from what you've been trying to get at :) [18:06:25] which is page_props [18:06:31] can I get that table only? [18:06:33] they will still be able to access it.. but the tabs will disappear.. [18:06:50] StanAccy, i assume you use monobook... [18:07:12] I do by dfault, but if a user changes their pref for skins, it needs to work for all :-) [18:07:58] ?? [18:08:41] hejsan [18:11:26] StanAccy: http://rafb.net/p/6WEEeM89.html [18:11:44] StanAccy, for monobook, figure it out for the rest of them.. [18:14:59] Thanks - this is monobook.php? [18:15:50] yes [18:15:59] i added the logged in check .. [18:16:17] and there's no central place to put this so it hits all skins? [18:16:28] 03(mod) no text in search results when the match is up to diacritics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13849 (10brion) [18:17:12] StanAccy, no. [18:17:39] I suppose I could delete all the other skins [18:22:31] What variable holds the path to images? [18:23:18] 03aaron * r34057 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Add $wgFlaggedRevsTalkVisible [18:30:07] matthew_, i think $wgUploadPath [18:30:29] 03brion * r34058 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES skins/Modern.php): (log message trimmed) [18:30:29] * (bug 13880) "Printable" link in Modern skin now formats as print mode [18:30:29] Problem was that the Modern skin uses a different way of setting up the print stylesheet from the other skins. [18:30:29] Others: [18:30:29] * always include main stylesheet [18:30:31] * override that stuff with print stylesheet for print media or ?printable=yes [18:30:33] Modern: [18:30:39] 03(FIXED) Printable version link not properly formatted with Modern skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13880 +comment (10brion) [18:31:02] which file sets the placement of the p-personal icon (user.gif)? [18:32:03] Sasoriza, main.css [18:32:50] yep just found it. D'oh! [18:33:11] :) [18:33:36] Anyone know how I can query RC for last edit made? (preferabbly ajax wise) [18:35:06] Sasoriza, do you have any thoughts on what category insurance companies should belong to? (on my site) [18:35:21] 06(LATER) Rendering of devanagari numbers in automatic '#' number lists - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13896 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [18:35:42] Wiredtape: That works great - many thanks for the assistance [18:35:50] StanAccy, np :) [18:35:53] its perfeect [18:36:04] 03(mod) Rendering of devanagari numbers in automatic '#' number lists - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13896 (10niklas.laxstrom) [18:39:16] does anyone know if it's possible to get a recent changes rss feed from a mediawiki that requires login on all pages? [18:40:00] *ialex waves to Jack_Phoenix [18:40:18] *Jack_Phoenix waves back to ialex :-) [18:40:21] hi ialex and Jack_Phoenix [18:40:27] hello Nikerabbit [18:40:28] rar Nikerabbit [18:40:39] 03(NEW) Special: Allpages unconscionably large on giant wikis like en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13902 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (brion) [18:40:50] adamzap: if Special:Recentchanges is whitelisted, probably [18:41:14] brion: ah ok thanks, I'll check on that [18:41:26] is it possible to query for last RC change? [18:41:51] use the API [18:42:15] ialex.. care to elaborate a bit? [18:43:02] and actually, this is for internal wiki stuff, so I don't really need the API.. such as mediawiki extension.. [18:43:55] Hiya, I was wondering if someone can help me with upgrading from 1.6 to 1.12 [18:44:04] I read the FAQ, but my question is more technical :) [18:44:18] I was told that I need to update my php from 4 to 5 [18:44:21] Wiredtape: maybe "select rc_id from recentchanges limit 1" [18:44:46] I got a message from my hosting that I need to create a Create a ".htaccess" file containing the following line: [18:44:46] AddType x-mapp-php5 .php4 [18:45:01] But I have no clue on how to create .htaccess X_X [18:45:35] ialex: ORDER BY rc_timestamp DESC, rc_this_old_id DESC ;) [18:46:08] SELECT * FROM recentchanges ORDER BY rc_timestamp DESC, rc_this_old_id DESC LIMIT 1 [18:46:23] 14(WFM) SVGs render improperly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13885 +comment (10brion) [18:46:23] 03(mod) new js api function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13901 (10danny_b) [18:46:30] AaronSchulz: order by rc_id desc doesn't work or there isn't an index on it ? [18:46:32] 03(mod) JavaScript (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2114 (10danny_b) [18:46:52] ialex: you could probably order by rc_id DESC, yes [18:46:56] I did this: $wgUploadDirectory = "/mnt/" . ucfirst($wsuImplementation) . "Files/Wiki/{$wsuCurrentWiki}/images"; [18:47:04] but "select rc_id from recentchanges limit 1" is not enough ;) [18:47:15] ialex, AaronSchulz: there's no $rcobject->lastchange and so on? [18:47:26] haha, no [18:47:34] darn :) [18:48:18] oh.. i have an idea :) what is a hook that happens on every change? [18:48:58] but the wiki isn't showing the images even though I set $wgUploadDirectory... I don't understand $wgUploadPath [18:49:16] Hi, [18:49:18] I have written an extension for a custom tag, and that extension may create checkboxes [18:49:19] But checkboxes handlers are automatically overwritten by setupCheckboxShiftClick() in wikibits.js [18:49:21] How can I keep my own onclick() handler for my checkboxes ? [18:50:34] Pb showing on http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/Sandbox [18:50:43] 03(mod) add user talk namespace of En.Wikipedia to Robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13890 (10brion) [18:52:46] 03(mod) rescaling of animated gif increase size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11822 +need-review +patch (10brion) [18:56:53] 14(INVALID) ImagePage refers to local server for Upload new version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13898 +comment (10brion) [18:58:04] anyone know of a hook that runs on any change? [18:58:12] 03(mod) add ogg/video and application/annodex to mimetypes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13900 (10brion) [18:58:19] change: one that appears on RC.. [19:01:06] How can I get mediawiki's authentication to use HTTPS instead of HTTP? [19:01:22] At present, it just does everything over http [19:01:32] I don't want passwords flying out over the open [19:02:11] maybe an apache alias? [19:02:15] matthew_: put it on a https server [19:02:39] ialex: i only want the authentication part of ssl, not everything [19:02:41] and set $wgServer (right?) to the https://domain [19:03:00] !hooks [19:03:00] --mwbot-- Hooks allow you to run functions at various points in the main MediaWiki code. For more information about using hooks in MediaWiki, see . [19:03:50] Is there an extension which have like a box and "Create new article" next to it? :) [19:04:09] Found one called new page, but not sure if that's it [19:04:22] Wiredtape: so you are suggesting I modify the code to change the $wgServer variable..hmm. maybe.. [19:04:54] kaspar, there is one called "CreateArticle" [19:05:02] *Wiredtape is happy because he found $wgHooks['RecentChange_save'][] [19:05:18] Oh, thanks Wiredtape [19:05:38] Wiredtape: hehe [19:06:08] ialex, and it turns out there is a $recentChange object :) yay! [19:06:31] Darn, noone answered php upgrade question on php *sighs* [19:06:37] Let's hope whatever I'm doing will work [19:06:49] XD [19:06:53] kaspar: backup, backup backup :) [19:07:01] It's brand new wiki, no nah :) [19:07:12] Just my hosting guys sent me to faq and their faq..sucks big time X_X [19:07:33] especially for someone who's new to whole websites and stuff :) [19:08:26] 03(mod) Expose Cortado play position via JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13901 summary; +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [19:09:08] Ahhh...crap [19:09:59] what search engine does mw.org use? [19:10:51] Wiredtape, do you know how to upgrade php4 to 5? :] [19:11:36] Kaspar, umm.. that depends on your situation.. (normally just download php5 and put it in a directory and tell your webserver where it is) [19:11:45] if this is a shared server, than ask your host [19:12:05] Well, I had mediawiki 1.6 [19:12:12] if this is a private server but you don't have access to httpd.conf (if you use apache) then also ask your host [19:12:14] Tried upgrading it to 1.12, but it said that php5 requires [19:12:29] Host answer how to upgrade was this.. [19:12:36] don't paste :) [19:12:36] http://faq.1and1.co.uk/scripting/php/using_php5/2.html [19:12:41] linkie :P [19:12:42] good :) [19:12:46] XD [19:13:23] I opened up notebad, typed in the command, saved it AS .htaccess like it was said [19:13:25] 03(mod) add ogg/video and application/annodex to mimetypes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13900 (10j) [19:13:30] and? [19:13:33] uploaded new 1.12 [19:13:35] and well [19:13:36] sec [19:13:48] http://hleba.net/test/ [19:14:13] Am I doing something wrong? [19:14:34] 03(mod) Expose Cortado play position via JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13901 (10j) [19:14:48] I mean I can see that it doesn't work and it means I'm doing something wrong, but any clue what? :) [19:15:25] well for stareters this is still 1.6 [19:15:55] 0_o [19:16:03] ok.. what actual variable does mediawiki use to locate images (that were uploaded) to display them on a page as inhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=image:something.gif [19:16:06] is centralauth stable yet? [19:16:06] 03nikerabbit * r34059 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/SpecialCentralAuth.php: * oops, broke variable replacement [19:16:16] I uploaded like it says in upgrade 1.12 [19:16:45] Kaspar, umm.. dunno.. the setup says mediawiki 1.6.10 [19:17:07] matthew_, $wgUploadPath [19:17:34] rar Splarka! [19:17:57] .tar.gzfeather [19:18:24] Wiredtape: according to the manual, $wgUploadPath is a relative path under the web root, not a specific path--I read elsewhere the upload path should not be under the web root [19:19:05] Wiredtape: therefore, I mounted the wiki images under /mnt/DevFiles and set $wgUploadDirectory to there.. [19:19:08] Splarka, .wkz.da.plank! [19:19:42] .lha.lha.lha.cant.hear.you [19:20:12] Wiredtape: so.. how can I then also set $wgUploadPath to there? Must I mount the images somewhere under web root--with full write priviledges? [19:20:17] matthew_ the way i remember it (i might have forgotten by now :) ) it is $wgServerName (or some other server var) + $wgUploadPath that says where it is [19:20:47] matthew_ did you read the uploadpath manual? [19:20:57] or the faq on these things? [19:21:10] Splarka: .beware.of.the.monkey! [19:21:17] Wiredtape: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUploadPath [19:21:26] is there a User:foo/bar.js page that in contrast of say User:foo/monobook.js is to be included unser all skins? [19:21:42] *Wiredtape watched a monkey clober Splarka, because he wasn't listening... [19:21:42] under* [19:22:04] hear no evil, bear no evil [19:22:08] well, unless you are Colbert [19:22:10] Splarka: you know? [19:22:25] AzaTht, I believe a User:foo/bar.js would affect that user under all skins [19:22:29] Aza: there isn't [19:22:36] :( [19:22:46] would be nice and make sense if there was [19:22:55] Are you sure about that Splarka? [19:22:58] User:foo/common.js [19:23:19] I was under the impression that common.js or any other user script was for any skin... [19:23:28] [19:23:40] well, it isn't loading anywhere, in trunk monobook, so you tell me [19:23:59] some wikis have js hacks to load it of course, or extensions, or gadgets [19:24:29] Wiredtape: perhaps I could create a symlink under web root that points to the /mnt/DevFiles $wgUploadDirectory and point $wgUploadPath to that.. with permissions on the symlink for read-only.. [19:24:39] Splarka: what I would want is a page where mostly admins can enter data that will be outputted directly in the html (i.e. not linked, but placed there verbatim) [19:25:27] aza: per page, per user, or globally? [19:25:33] matthew_: permissions on symlinks are ignored as far as I know [19:25:40] per user [19:25:51] matthew_ ok, so basically uploadpath and uploaddirectory are both pinpoints for where to upload.. the uploadpath talks about where mediawiki looks for the images.. and uploaddirectory for where it is *physically* located.. [19:26:16] Splarka: to be able to enter data that is not affected by temporal disalignment [19:26:30] Aza: sounds unlikely to be implemented on en.wp anyway [19:26:39] Wiredtape: function setupUserJs( $allowUserJs ) in SkinTemplate.php [19:26:42] the SVG->PNG converter piss me off [19:26:48] it always fucks up the aspect ratio [19:27:05] cursing it here wont help [19:27:10] Splarka.. yeah i think there is also a localsettings.php setting :) [19:27:20] Splarka: :( [19:27:23] Wiredtape: what do you mean? [19:27:31] unless the skin name was common.js [19:27:35] it won't load user/common.js [19:28:10] Splarka: I somehow remember a AllowUserJS global setting (probably not named like that) which allows for user/common.js :-\ [19:28:17] Nikerabbit: permissions to symlinks add a second layer of permissions that overlap the ones on the real file. [19:28:34] matthew_: not on linux at least, afaik [19:28:39] Splarka: I remember it, because I was doing something with it before.. but have long abandoned it.. [19:28:46] Wiredtape: it is easy to do in js, but still a hack [19:29:11] Nikerabbit: I am quite sure you've got that wrong--I have used them like this many times on linux. [19:29:13] an even easier way would be an extension that adds the script before pageload no? [19:29:22] chmod never changes the permissions of symbolic links; the chmod system call cannot change their permissions. This is not a problem since the permissions of symbolic links are never used. [19:29:28] if(wgUserName) importScript('User:' + wgUserName + '/common.js') [19:29:39] well, lets see [19:29:45] 1. write the php [19:29:49] 2. submit it to bugzilla for review [19:29:55] 3. convince a sheller to add it [19:29:57] Nikerabbit: the file/directory has its permissions, the symlink has its, and you must get past both to do something to the file/directory [19:29:58] vs [19:30:04] 1. add that single line of js ^_^ [19:30:17] Splarka: touche` :) [19:30:28] I never was any good with JS :) [19:30:39] anyway [19:31:00] Splarka: number 3 is the bugger [19:31:00] aza: would these be JS variables in a