[05:26:24] <amidaniel>	!help
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[05:26:27] <amidaniel>	Goodie
[05:28:18] <sektor>	Splarka, where can i get the images from ? please
[05:32:15] <Splarka>	dunno
[05:33:58] <sektor>	Splarka, so how can i import pages-articles.xml into my database ?
[05:34:39] <sektor>	Splarka, cat enwiki-20080312-pages-articles.xml | ./mwimport.sh | mysql -f -u orudie -p wikidb --- is this sufficient ?
[05:36:37] <Splarka>	"<orudie> so is it legal to mirror pages from wikipedia ?"  <-- I only know that it is but few mirrors do it properly, you'll have to ask someone else about database specifics
[06:10:11] <CIA-50>	03dantman * r34110 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/commandLine.inc: Tweak to commandLine.inc to make it follow the MW_INSTALL_PATH environment variable like tweaked maintenance scripts.
[07:25:07] <_wooz>	lo
[08:35:26] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Improve history to display authors of current text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13927  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[08:35:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add feature annotate/blame command, to indicate who last changed each line / word - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=639  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[08:50:47] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Special:MergeAccount does not identify all accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12096  (10tstarling)
[08:55:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:MergeAccount does not identify all accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12096  +comment (10rotemliss)
[08:59:44] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) add video/ogg and application/annodex to mimetypes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13900  +comment (10j)
[09:02:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Expose Cortado play position via JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13901  (10j)
[09:10:25] <doos_>	hi
[09:11:03] <doos_>	I want to change a function in the Skin.php file, would it be best to make an extension for it?
[09:33:34] <CIA-50>	03btongminh * r34111 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Make shareduploadconflict sound less weird
[09:35:36] <Tux_Soul>	Hi.
[09:36:03] <Tux_Soul>	Why not a WYSIWYG visual editor (like tinymce)?
[09:36:20] <CIA-50>	03jojo * r34112 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/pdf-server/ (README.txt clean-cache.py pdf-server.py): added clean-cache.py (to be used in a cron-job). added documentation.
[10:46:57] <CIA-50>	03ialex * r34113 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (5 files): Added a maintenance script to find missing settings and added missing settings found with it
[10:56:08] <CIA-50>	03jojo * r34114 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (3 files in 2 dirs): transfer localized messages from MediaWiki. fixes.
[10:57:55] <CIA-50>	03ialex * r34115 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.settings.php: some tweaks for last commit
[11:49:42] <helloworld>	hi is anyone around?
[11:49:59] <helloworld>	i am having some problems with mediawiki
[11:50:21] <helloworld>	when i click submit after editing an article, i was redirected to a preview page
[11:50:41] <Werdna>	oh?
[11:51:05] <helloworld>	does anyone have any idea what is wrong?
[11:51:18] <Werdna>	moar detail plz
[11:51:34] <helloworld>	what kind of details do you need?
[11:51:42] <helloworld>	everytime i try to make changes and save
[11:51:52] <Werdna>	does it say anything at the top?
[11:51:59] <helloworld>	i am redirected to a empty preview page
[11:52:00] <Nikerabbit>	owoto
[11:52:12] <dungodung>	Nikerabbit: <3
[11:52:15] <Nikerabbit>	Werdna: moar lolcats
[11:52:18] <helloworld>	in other words, when i click submit, i dun get to see the saved page, instead i see a preview page
[11:54:44] <helloworld>	anyone?
[11:54:48] <jorvis_>	How do a define a user as a sysop?
[11:56:00] <dungodung>	go to Special:UserRights
[11:56:06] <dungodung>	and the rest is simple
[11:56:23] <Werdna>	yeah, now that I made that page comprehensible for humans/
[11:56:33] <dungodung>	or do INSERT INTO user_groups (ug_user, ug_group) VALUES (<the_user_id>, "sysop");
[11:57:00] <dungodung>	kudos to Werdna 
[11:58:43] <jorvis_>	thanks
[11:59:39] <dungodung>	you're welcome, I guess :)
[12:03:29] <CIA-50>	03jojo * r34116 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: fix
[12:08:37] <CIA-50>	03gri6507 * r34117 10/trunk/extensions/UsageStatistics/ (SpecialUserStats.php SpecialUserStats_body.php): 
[12:08:37] <CIA-50>	v1.7
[12:08:37] <CIA-50>	* fixed a minor bug in generating weekday names
[12:12:37] <whatever88>	hi
[12:12:45] <whatever88>	does anyone have experience with session saving
[12:13:17] <Werdna>	I'm sure somebody does/.
[12:13:29] <whatever88>	yeah
[12:13:36] <whatever88>	i mentioned my problem before
[12:13:42] <whatever88>	when i tried to save a page i edited
[12:13:48] <whatever88>	i was presented with a blank preview page
[12:14:16] <whatever88>	it is exactly the same problem that was mentioned here  - http://forum.powweb.com/showthread.php?t=61306
[12:14:22] <whatever88>	now i can't even login
[12:14:53] <Werdna>	have you changed anything?
[12:15:09] <whatever88>	i changed php.ini
[12:15:19] <whatever88>	but it has got nothing to do with session.save
[12:18:38] <whatever88>	anyone?
[12:21:09] <whatever88>	anyone have any clues?
[12:22:07] <Werdna>	!repeat
[12:22:07] --mwbot--	Please do not repeat yourself too often. If little conversation has occurred since your last message, then it is likely no one has an answer or someone who does hasn't looked in IRC yet. You risk annoying people if you incessantly repeat yourself.
[12:30:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Problem creating image thumbnails in 1.11 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12970  +comment (10m4swart)
[12:38:57] <CIA-50>	03jojo * r34118 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: do not set Expect: header
[12:39:32] <CIA-50>	03jojo * r34119 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: fix
[12:43:07] <CIA-50>	03jojo * r34120 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (Collection.body.php Collection.i18n.php): show "not satisfied" text below <iframe>.
[12:43:29] <CIA-50>	03jojo * r34121 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.i18n.php: fix
[12:47:14] <CIA-50>	03jojo * r34122 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/pdf-server/pdf-server.py: typo fix
[12:51:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create [[Special:InterwikiMap]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3745  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[12:53:35] <gegema>	my ../images directory has a 755 permission and I am getting an error "The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver".
[12:53:57] <gegema>	does ../images need to be chowned to the www-data group?
[12:58:28] <Simetrical>	gegema, either chown it to whatever user the webserver runs as (typically apache, not www-data), or chmod it 777.
[12:59:32] <gegema>	I have disabled file uploads by 'user' on MW, however, is 777 still a safe idea?
[13:01:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Lithuanian Wiktionary nead Extension:VariablesExtension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13894  (10innocentkiller)
[13:01:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Lithuanian Wiktionary nead Extension:StringFunctions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13895  (10innocentkiller)
[13:10:38] <CIA-50>	03jojo * r34123 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (Collection.php README.txt): make tools.pediapress.com the default value for $wgPDFServer. document it. added note about MediaWikis w/ multiple licenses.
[13:14:27] <AzaTht>	Simetrical: is this something the folks at commons have fnucked up, or has there been an change in the MW code that cause following: http://aza.nehle.net/~azatoth/long_button.png
[13:15:20] <AzaTht>	I think I recall that that message was printed before the buttons before
[13:15:36] <Simetrical>	AzaTht, dunno.
[13:15:50] <Simetrical>	Let me see.
[13:17:24] <^demon>	What a helpful button.
[13:17:36] <AzaTht>	hehe
[13:18:05] <Simetrical>	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUpload.php?r1=32493&r2=32492&pathrev=32493
[13:18:16] <Simetrical>	Yeah, it was software breakage, blame Raymond__.  :)
[13:18:43] <Simetrical>	I think.
[13:18:54] <Simetrical>	Actually I don't know offhand how those Xml functions work.
[13:18:59] <AzaTht>	hehe
[13:21:42] <AzaTht>	should be "savefile" instead
[13:22:12] <AzaTht>	Raymond__: I throw blame on your house
[13:22:41] <^demon>	AzaTht: Kinda. "ignorewarning" might be correct. Enwiki has it as the default (Ignore warning and save file anyway).
[13:22:48] <^demon>	Commons is just really extensive.
[13:22:55] <AzaTht>	true
[13:23:16] <AzaTht>	but it's not a button text per se
[13:23:29] <AzaTht>	it's an warning
[13:23:29] *^demon 	shrugs
[13:23:30] <Simetrical>	^demon, I don't think it was intentional, it changed the functionality for some messages.
[13:23:36] <Simetrical>	Also it seems to no longer use other messages.
[13:23:39] <^demon>	True, I'm seeing that now.
[13:23:47] <Danny_B>	is it possible to create either tag or pfunc which would have same behavior as <onlyinclude> or <includeonly> has?
[13:24:02] <AzaTht>	Simetrical: shall me bug report?
[13:24:40] <Werdna>	hi Simetrical 
[13:24:44] <AzaTht>	takes that as a yes
[13:25:22] <Simetrical>	AzaTht, bug Raymond__ about it.
[13:25:54] <Danny_B>	so instead of writing <includeonly><mytag>some data</mytag></includeonly> i'd write <myincludeonlytag>some data</myincludeonlytag>
[13:27:02] <Werdna>	Simetrical: yes, that's Raymond__'s fault.
[13:27:17] *Werdna 	ponders fixing it up now.
[13:27:22] <Werdna>	I already implemented caching for CentralAuthUser.
[13:27:56] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) SpecialUpload warning results in long buttons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13928 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (azatoth)
[13:28:01] <AzaTht>	!b 13928 | Simetrical 
[13:28:01] --mwbot--	Simetrical: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13928
[13:28:26] *Raymond__ 	feels blamed but cannot change it at the moment. until monday I am on a foreign PC without developing environment and without ssh key
[13:28:32] <AzaTht>	hehe
[13:28:48] *Jack_Phoenix 	wonders when brion will create some new svn accounts...
[13:29:21] <Jack_Phoenix>	would be nice to commit this one patch that fixes some issues :-)
[13:29:35] <AzaTht>	Jack_Phoenix: next time you ask that to him face to face
[13:30:19] <Jack_Phoenix>	face to face? gee, don't think I'll be getting to Wikimania anytime soon <g>
[13:30:22] <AzaTht>	Raymond__: we don't blame you too much, just enough
[13:38:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Whitelist ISO/IEC 26300 (OpenDocument) file format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2089  +comment (10ingo.thies)
[13:53:25] <CIA-50>	03werdna * r34124 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/ (10 files in 2 dirs): 
[13:53:25] <CIA-50>	Now that scap's been and gone, re-commit global groups feature, with some fixes.
[13:53:25] <CIA-50>	Testing and logging indicates that no CentralAuth queries are required
[13:53:25] <CIA-50>	per-pageview. In fact, this commit reduces these queries by caching the relevant
[13:53:25] <CIA-50>	information in memcached.
[13:53:26] <CIA-50>	* Per the revert, add caching to the CentralAuthUser object, and associated management of purging (including a mechanism for avoiding repeated purging when, for instance, merging an account)
[13:53:31] <CIA-50>	* Fix a previous bug which affected logging, in which the rights assigned to a user group were not stored in the log.
[13:57:50] <Warpath>	XD
[13:58:03] <dcrochet>	A bot list all extension wich use the {{Extension}} to place the link in the [[Extension Matrix]] page. But this page [[RSS feed for recent chages]] use this template but is not lis in the extension matix page. is the bot do its work good or do not list some extention ? 
[14:19:51] <MrCheerful>	Hi
[14:20:18] <MrCheerful>	What does "Mark this article as patrolled" mean?
[14:30:03] <Wiredtape>	MrCheerful: that means that you've reviewed the change and think it is ok.. usually only happens for anon users who contribute..
[14:31:29] <MrCheerful>	ok, thanks for that.
[14:31:56] <Wiredtape>	np
[14:35:10] *ialex 	waves to Jack_Phoenix :)
[14:35:30] *Wiredtape 	waves to Jack_Phoenix, and ialex
[14:35:46] *AzaTht 	kills waving people
[14:35:47] *Wiredtape 	awaits his rar or ohai from Jack_Phoenix
[14:35:55] <ialex>	hello Wiredtape
[14:35:59] <Wiredtape>	and my hello from ialex :)
[14:44:37] *Jack_Phoenix 	waves back to ialex :-)
[14:44:39] <Jack_Phoenix>	rar Wiredtape
[14:44:54] <ialex>	there's some lag ^^
[14:45:06] <Jack_Phoenix>	<g>
[14:45:55] <Wiredtape>	:)
[14:46:57] *Wiredtape 	wonders if anyone knows what a personal protection order is?
[14:56:06] <gegema>	Sorry to ask this in here, just in case someone has an answer >. I have installed the FCKeditor extension for WYSIWYG edits. When trying to paste into the text area from a clipboard, FCKeditor keeps on brining up a pop up window to paste the information into. This presents an extra step for those who want to simple copy and paste their text. Any ideas on how to 'disable' this?
[14:56:32] <Nikerabbit>	mui
[15:08:18] <gegema>	!extensions
[15:08:18] --mwbot--	MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions> for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix> for an overview of known extensions.
[15:09:52] <gegema>	any ISBN verification MW extensions out therE?
[15:17:01] <archivist>	heh ISBN sometimes needs taking with a pinch of salt,
[15:17:39] <archivist>	some ISBN's are reused by publishers
[15:18:55] <gegema>	:)
[15:19:57] <gegema>	I was putting up an article on an internal wiki, that was telling people to go to amazon.com to verify ISBNs and was wondering if there was an extension for MW, that would draw xml data from amazon and do the verification behind the scenes
[15:20:16] <flyingparchment>	you don't need any data to verify an ISBN
[15:20:18] <peder>	archivist: got an example?
[15:20:22] <flyingparchment>	ISBNs have a built-in checksum
[15:21:25] <gegema>	flyingparchment: I was leaning more on the side of, when poeple want to check if the ISBN they have is really the book they had in mind
[15:22:22] <gegema>	so they would type in the ISBn in the Wiki, and it would output the book information (maybe with a thumbnail image from amazon if available)
[15:24:40] <archivist>	peder it was discussed on the openlibrary mailing list "And we know that Baen Books reuses print
[15:24:40] <archivist>	ISBNs for all of each e-book variants of the print books. We also know
[15:24:41] <archivist>	that many books are being printed and sold today without ISBNs (many, if
[15:24:41] <archivist>	not most, book club editions)."
[15:25:05] <archivist>	and a few other mentions
[15:25:39] <peder>	archivist: right, reuse for different editions
[15:25:51] <archivist>	gegema, maybe soon the openlibrary project would have a sutable api
[15:26:31] <archivist>	peder and that is an invalid use of an isbn
[15:27:12] <peder>	though, i do think i have a book here that got the wrong isbn on it... misprint i guess
[15:27:52] <peder>	since it is listed with the right one on the publishers page
[15:28:22] <CIA-50>	03greg * r34125 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DatabasePostgres.php: Short-circuit true if insert has no rows.
[15:28:32] <archivist>	isbn is a known problem in the library world, some publishers abuse the system to avoid paying fees to get new numbers
[15:34:22] <whatever86>	hi, is there any way i can upload huge videos to my own mediawiki
[15:34:52] <Wiredtape>	whatever86, define huge... and what you want to do with them :)
[15:35:03] <whatever86>	i installed some flv extension
[15:35:06] <whatever86>	so i can play flv files
[15:35:12] <whatever86>	and i have some avi files which are 300mb
[15:35:20] <whatever86>	so what i did was convert them to flv
[15:35:24] <whatever86>	but they are still around 100mb
[15:35:42] <whatever86>	it is just my personal wiki which i wanna use to organise my info
[15:35:53] <Wiredtape>	whatever86: yeah you need to add .flv to your localsettings and allowed file extensions..
[15:36:06] <whatever86>	but dun u think the files are too huge?
[15:36:19] <Wiredtape>	though i humbly suggest you to not waste your own bandwidth and use youtube or others instead..
[15:36:28] <CIA-50>	03shinjiman * r34126 10/trunk/phase3/languages/Language.php: Partially reverting r33937, the localisation message fallback for extensions were not used.
[15:36:31] <whatever86>	nah..i run the wiki on my own computer
[15:37:09] <Wiredtape>	then of course they are not to big :)
[15:37:20] <whatever86>	yeah, but i think php does not allow for that
[15:37:31] <Wiredtape>	and in fact, if i were you i wouldn't waste the time of actually "uploading" them... 
[15:37:34] <Wiredtape>	just link to them
[15:37:54] <whatever86>	cos it is for backup purposes..in case i wanna move it to another system
[15:38:01] <whatever86>	dun wanna link it to my existing filesystem
[15:38:42] <Wiredtape>	whatever86: i'm pretty sure that there are ways to make php to allow large files (if there is even such a limit..) if there are/is , i don't know :)
[15:39:58] <whatever86>	thanks anyway
[15:40:25] <Wiredtape>	np
[15:45:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Preference to toggle edit tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11130  (10charlottethewebb)
[15:47:38] <CIA-50>	03greg * r34127 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalUsage/GlobalUsage.pg.sql: Add Postgres version of schema.
[15:48:14] <CIA-50>	03greg * r34128 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalUsage/GlobalUsageDaemon.php: Clean up SQL.
[15:49:15] <whatever86>	btw..is there anything similar to tagging in mediawiki?
[15:49:40] <Wiredtape>	whatever86: categories..
[15:50:26] *ItsMeIGuess[] 	says hi
[15:51:24] <Wiredtape>	hi
[15:52:51] <ItsMeIGuess[]>	whatever86:  add the categories on the artikels like [[Category:tag1]] [[Category:tag2]] ...
[15:53:01] <whatever86>	ok
[15:53:07] <whatever86>	i know of this way and am already using it
[15:53:13] <ItsMeIGuess[]>	^^'
[15:53:14] <whatever86>	was just thinking of whether there was anything more appropriate
[15:53:26] <zocky>	more appropriate how?
[15:53:32] <ItsMeIGuess[]>	(allways helpfull to say somthing when an awnser helped and everything is fine)
[15:53:42] <whatever86>	oh yeah, btw, just another question
[15:53:55] <whatever86>	was looking at wikipedia and saw some geo location specific coordinates
[15:53:59] <whatever86>	how does that work
[15:54:28] <Wiredtape>	whatever86: iirc, that is a template coupled with googlemaps.. .
[15:54:48] <Wiredtape>	You could of course use semantic mediawiki and have a geospacial property
[15:54:58] <Wiredtape>	or you could use the googlemaps extension :)
[15:55:01] <whatever86>	wow..that sounds complicated
[15:55:22] <whatever86>	can u elaborate on teh special property thingy?
[15:55:28] <whatever86>	sorry about all these questions
[15:55:52] <ItsMeIGuess[]>	this is a channel to ask questions not to idle, so i guesss its ok to ask^^'
[15:56:21] <whatever86>	cos i am very interested in GIS systems
[15:56:24] <Wiredtape>	ItsMeIGuess[]: you guess right :)
[15:56:30] <whatever86>	and their integration with mediawiki
[15:57:04] <Wiredtape>	whatever86 : semantic mediawiki is an extension to mediawiki. It enables the "creation" (not really creation) of semantic properties.. 
[15:57:23] <Wiredtape>	this, in a way could be considered a tag
[15:57:30] <Wiredtape>	but a special one
[15:58:10] <whatever86>	let me do a search on it
[15:58:11] <Wiredtape>	for instance: {{geospacialNode:05'07"2708}} (completely fake number btw) 
[15:59:04] <Wiredtape>	would tell SMW (semantic mediawiki) that there is a new "thing" and it is a geospacial node..  you can later reference this place for instance and find all of the places with this node...
[15:59:17] <Wiredtape>	yes, google'ing it is the best way
[16:00:40] <whatever86>	it sounds fun, let me try to install it
[16:00:50] *ItsMeIGuess[] 	got some problems with wrongly created links by CreateBox =X
[16:02:41] <ItsMeIGuess[]>	my urls are like example.org/folder/Artikel?aktion=edit <-- those urls all totaly work... but
[16:02:51] <ItsMeIGuess[]>	with the extensions creates somthing like
[16:03:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Preference to toggle edit tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11130  (10charlottethewebb)
[16:03:31] <ItsMeIGuess[]>	example.org/folder/Artikel?aktion=edit?prefix=....
[16:03:52] <ItsMeIGuess[]>	anyone knows how to fix this?
[16:04:18] <CIA-50>	03nikerabbit * r34129 10/trunk/phase3/languages/Language.php: 
[16:04:18] <CIA-50>	* Really fix fallbacks
[16:04:18] <CIA-50>	Apparently $wgMemc->get can return either FALSE or NULL on failure, depending on the cache engine used... blah
[16:04:30] <Wiredtape>	ItsMeIGuess[]: well.. it sounds like you need to fix the code... sorry but i don't have a lot of time right now for that.. 
[16:05:05] <ItsMeIGuess[]>	i can't realy find the posstion where the link is messed up
[16:05:47] <ItsMeIGuess[]>	maybe how the funciton getFullUrl is called, since till then the stuff in the extension looks right =x , well anyone else knows how to? =x
[16:10:52] <whatever86>	oh one more question, are pages Hello, hello and HELLO all the same?
[16:11:01] <MinuteElectron>	no
[16:11:33] <whatever86>	any way i can make them the same?
[16:13:10] <ItsMeIGuess[]>	*checks something*
[16:14:52] <Wiredtape>	whatever86: you can redirect Hello to HELLO or vice versa... hello doesn't exist..
[16:15:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Replace the "magnify" symbol used below thumbnails by a more explicit one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13070  (10huji.huji)
[16:16:55] <ItsMeIGuess[]>	whatever86:  not without coding it seams ^^' (let me check if there is an extension, doubt that kinda) if its for single pages you could just add redirects
[16:22:33] <MinuteElectron>	uh
[16:22:50] <MinuteElectron>	PHP Notice:  Use of undefined constant BATCH_SIZE - assumed 'BATCH_SIZE' in C:\S
[16:22:53] <MinuteElectron>	erver\Apache22\htdocs\mediawiki\maintenance\populateParentId.inc on line 66
[16:24:18] <Wiredtape>	MinuteElectron: latest rev?
[16:24:21] <MinuteElectron>	yup
[16:24:39] <Wiredtape>	MinuteElectron : imo, bug tim or aaron :)
[16:25:01] <Wiredtape>	iirc they were working on that..
[16:25:31] <ialex>	MinuteElectron: with update.php ?
[16:25:34] <MinuteElectron>	yes
[16:26:12] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) SVN commits which should be reverted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13929 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (robin_1273)
[16:28:16] <Wiredtape>	I wonder why on ajaxsearch clicking on the article not found link creates a new article $1 instead of the name of the article... anyone have a clue... (testable on en.wiredtape.com/wiki/Main_Page - type >3 letters in search box and try clicking the article redlink)
[16:28:58] <CIA-50>	03ialex * r34130 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (populateParentId.inc populateParentId.php): Moved constant definition to populateParentId.inc, throws an E_NOTICE when used by update.php, thanks to MinuteElectron for reporting it.
[16:29:33] <MinuteElectron>	ialex: Thanks.
[16:29:52] <ialex>	np :)
[16:31:23] <Wiredtape>	ialex, have any ideas re my prob ^^?
[16:31:57] <ialex>	wasn't that fixed ?
[16:32:51] <Wiredtape>	ajaxsearch works (if that's what you're talking about), but where it says: "you search for: <search term>" if you click on the redlink it brings up an edit for $1...
[16:33:00] <Wiredtape>	this is 1.12
[16:33:27] <Wiredtape>	i'm guessing this is a problem with sajaxsearch in ajaxfunctions..
[16:34:20] <ialex>	it's fixed in 1.13
[16:34:27] <NicDumZ>	ahhhh and I'm stuck with that stupid java/swing + UML school project that I just don't want to do when there are tons of nice MW related things to do :(
[16:35:18] <Wiredtape>	ahh.. darn.. shouldn't this be fixed in the 1.12 release as well?
[16:35:37] *ItsMeIGuess[] 	got some problems with wrongly created links by CreateBox =X anyone can help?
[16:37:22] <whatever86>	hi wiredtape, can you explain to me how i can make use of the semantic web extension?
[16:37:28] <CIA-50>	03simetrical * r34131 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): (bug 13929) Back out a line that's now obsolete and a line that seems to have been committed by accident.
[16:37:41] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) SVN commits which should be reverted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13929  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[16:38:51] <Wiredtape>	whatever86: in a couple of minutes.. you can read about the extension itself on:
[16:38:54] <Wiredtape>	!extension
[16:38:54] --mwbot--	MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions> for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix> for an overview of known extensions.
[16:39:00] <Wiredtape>	under semantic mediawiki
[16:42:58] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) SpecialUpload warning results in long buttons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13928  +comment (10huji.huji)
[16:49:37] <Wiredtape>	whatever86: did you read it?
[16:49:51] <whatever86>	oh, i am reading the help on http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Properties_and_types
[16:51:50] <Wiredtape>	good
[16:52:05] <whatever86>	sorry to trouble u
[16:52:38] <Wiredtape>	np
[16:56:02] <lyhana8>	hi, i'm trying to enable latex support on my wiki but get : Failed to parse (Can't write to or create math temp directory)
[17:00:06] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) SpecialUpload warning results in long buttons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13928  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[17:04:56] <ItsMeIGuess[]>	lyhana8: the math temp directory is writeable to the user apache runs as?
[17:06:44] <lyhana8>	drwxrwxrwx 2 www-data www-data   4096 2008-05-02 17:35 math
[17:10:06] <lyhana8>	where is the 'math temp directory' ?
[17:13:40] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) SpecialUpload warning results in long buttons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13928  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[17:19:12] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Renameuser log entry oddity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13912  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[17:19:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Improve log message for Renameuser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13567  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[17:24:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Makebot states that bots don't have bot status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13876  +comment (10dungodung)
[17:26:50] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Lithuanian Wiktionary nead Extension:StringFunctions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13895  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[17:26:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install the StringFunctions extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6455  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[17:34:46] <brion>	hey all
[17:35:59] <LeonWP>	hey brion.
[17:36:27] <Bryan>	hello
[17:44:22] <AzaTht>	brion: allo beauty
[17:53:29] <brion>	http://leuksman.com/log/2008/05/02/top-10-wikimedia-db-errors/
[17:56:10] <G_SabinoMullane>	Oooh, the 'ol "error 28", I hate that one. You'd think it would be able to report the actual problem though....
[18:00:52] <gegema>	How do I contain text I want to appear in a box from overflowing the box? Using <br> tags?
[18:21:19] <eghjaytee>	Hello I am trying to set up wgSessionsInMemcached and on a secondary machine (the remote web server that connects to memcached) I am getting multiple errors. It looks like memcached is not letting me write to it. Is there anything that needs to be done to the memcached config file in order to get remote wgSessionsInMemcached working?
[18:23:24] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) PATCH: Support for rev_deleted in sql dumps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13930 minor; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (Bryan.TongMinh)
[18:26:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) PATCH: Support for rev_deleted in sql dumps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13930  +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[18:34:56] <CIA-50>	03ialex * r34133 10/trunk/phase3/math/README: Update
[18:35:16] <Jack_Phoenix>	hey Aaron
[18:35:20] <AaronSchulz>	moo
[18:36:06] <eghjaytee>	has anyone here ever set up wgSessionsInMemcached?
[18:36:50] <ialex>	eghjaytee: yes, on my test wiki
[18:37:14] <eghjaytee>	I am getting tons of errors on my second webserver dealing with not being able to write for sessions
[18:37:26] <eghjaytee>	I can connect to the cache from the server no problem
[18:37:38] <eghjaytee>	and I dont see anything within memcached.conf about permissions
[18:38:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Whitelist ISO/IEC 26300 (OpenDocument) file format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2089  (10rmh)
[18:41:00] <ialex>	eghjaytee: hmm, i think there isn't authentification in memcached
[18:44:49] <simonrvn>	there is none, no. it's meant to run on localhost only
[19:11:45] <jorvis>	can you add user groups?  what's the best way for me to create a read-only user?
[19:11:56] <jorvis>	(my install requires login for viewing)
[19:12:25] <Simetrical>	!usergroups
[19:12:25] --mwbot--	For information on customizing user access, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights>. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access>.
[19:13:17] <jorvis>	great, thanks
[19:27:55] <AzaTht>	Simetrical: think I might have found an fishy bug in the api
[19:28:02] <AzaTht>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=recentchanges&rctype=new&rcprop=patrolled
[19:28:22] <AzaTht>	can you spawn roan?
[19:28:59] <CIA-50>	03brion * r34134 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Revert r34124 for now; Tim's still in the midst of major refactoring on this and we need to not be disrupting it in the middle of many other things going live.
[19:31:31] <Simetrical>	AzaTht, don't ask me about the API, I claim ignorance.
[19:33:19] <Bryan>	AzaTht: what?
[19:35:10] <sektor>	so i have enwiki-20080312-pages-articles.xml but how can i import it into my media wiki ?
[19:35:53] <gegema>	what setting controls the MW system(server) time... mine does not seem to be synched with the server time
[19:36:37] <Bryan>	sektor: maintenance/importDump.php
[19:36:41] <Bryan>	or use mwdumper.jar
[19:37:28] <sektor>	Bryan, could you provide more specifics on mwdumper.jar ?
[19:37:46] <ShodoPan>	I've got a question about licensing: what license governs the default mediawiki art (i.e. the background images, logos, and such)?
[19:37:53] <Bryan>	sektor: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwdumper
[19:39:24] <sektor>	Bryan, is this the easiest way ?
[19:39:39] <Bryan>	the easiest is maintenance/importDump.php
[19:39:42] <Bryan>	but also the slowest
[19:39:54] <Bryan>	I have not used mwdumper
[19:40:01] <sektor>	Bryan, 
[19:40:18] <sektor>	Bryan, how can i use maintenance/importdump.php ?
[19:40:49] <sektor>	Bryan, someone also told me about mwimport
[19:40:57] <sektor>	is mwimport any good ?
[19:41:18] <Bryan>	no idea, try it
[19:41:46] <sektor>	Bryan, can you give me more specifics on how to import with maintenance/importDump.php
[19:41:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images which are too small too need thumbnailing are repeatedly purged from Squid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13776  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[19:42:33] <AaronSchulz>	brion: I with some of the filerepo stuff had more comments
[19:42:51] <Bryan>	php maintenance/importDump.php file.xml
[19:42:56] <Bryan>	on your command line
[19:43:09] <AaronSchulz>	AzaTht: did you make a bug report?
[19:44:01] <sektor>	Bryan, but this way it will dump the whole thing without specifying some particular topics ?
[19:44:12] <Bryan>	everything
[19:44:19] <ialex>	AzaTht: what's the problem with the api ?
[19:44:37] <AaronSchulz>	I'm getting unknown actions for everything
[19:44:39] <AaronSchulz>	siiiiiiigh
[19:44:49] <AaronSchulz>	on my testwiki
[19:49:18] <AzaTht>	ialex: it's stupid ツ
[19:49:35] <sektor>	Bryan, ok its working now, so i guess going to take a while yeeah?
[19:49:37] <Bryan>	please be more specific
[19:49:40] <AzaTht>	but now when I think if it, it's not 100% a bug, just mearly idioty
[19:49:50] <Bryan>	sektor: hours/days
[19:50:01] <sektor>	Bryan, what about images ? where can i get all the images and how to import those ?
[19:50:08] <Bryan>	not.
[19:50:24] <Bryan>	however, see a recent post by Gregory Maxwell on wikitech-l
[19:50:49] <sektor>	not?
[19:50:54] <sektor>	are you talking to me ?
[19:50:57] <sektor>	i cant import images ?
[19:51:10] <AzaTht>	ialex: but I want roan in an related issue (feature request)
[19:51:52] <Bryan>	sektor: the images are simply not available in a dump
[19:52:03] <Bryan>	however gmaxwell may provide you a copy, see wikitech-l
[19:53:15] <sektor>	Bryan, http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/ this ?
[19:53:21] <Bryan>	yes
[19:53:29] <Bryan>	http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2008-April/037614.html
[19:55:13] <sektor>	Bryan, so its missing 
[19:55:18] <sektor>	Bryan, right ?
[19:55:25] <AaronSchulz>	ok, I see
[19:55:37] <Bryan>	yes it's missing but he still has an outdated copy
[19:55:38] <AaronSchulz>	API has a strange way of handling read restricted wikis
[19:55:54] <Bryan>	uh yeah
[19:55:55] <Bryan>	first login
[19:56:02] <Bryan>	then you can do other actions
[19:56:18] <AaronSchulz>	<error code="unknown_action" info="Unrecognised value for parameter &#039;action&#039;">
[19:56:24] <AaronSchulz>	ugh
[20:00:57] <sektor>	Bryan, login with mediawiki account ?
[20:01:12] <Bryan>	I was talking to Aaron
[20:01:37] <sektor>	oh
[20:02:06] <sektor>	Bryan, so i dont get it the link that you sent me talks about how images are not agailabe
[20:02:39] <Bryan>	yes. but maybe gmaxwell has stored a copy from January. ask him.
[20:04:05] <sektor>	Bryan, should i email him ?
[20:10:45] <sektor>	Bryan, 
[20:11:08] <Bryan>	that would be the most obvious choice, not?
[20:11:19] <Bryan>	unless you can use telepathy to contact him...
[20:12:25] <sektor>	telepathy?
[20:13:01] <sektor>	lol
[20:13:02] <CIA-50>	03aaron * r34135 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Whitespace tweaks
[20:13:05] <sektor>	you got me there
[20:14:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) PATCH: Support for rev_deleted in sql dumps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13930  (10brion)
[20:18:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) PATCH: Support for rev_deleted in sql dumps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13930  (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[20:20:09] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Divide by 0 error possible on SpecialStatisics.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13931 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (seventowers)
[20:20:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) PATCH: Support for rev_deleted in sql dumps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13930  (10brion)
[20:22:31] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Divide by 0 error possible on SpecialStatisics.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13931  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:23:10] <Bryan>	uh that will give what? infinity?
[20:23:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) DPL2's include parameter broken with new parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13677  (10N/A)
[20:23:33] <AaronSchulz>	Bryan: it throws big notices
[20:23:39] <AaronSchulz>	and it gives 0
[20:23:57] *AaronSchulz 	had to deal with that with profileinfo
[20:25:35] <sektor>	how can i administer my mediawiki, lets say i want to set the default skin for everyone  ?
[20:25:40] <sektor>	how would i do that ?
[20:26:02] <CIA-50>	03aaron * r34136 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialStatistics.php: Suppress div/0 error
[20:27:13] <Reedy>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Skins
[20:27:16] <Reedy>	probably somewhere on there
[20:28:22] <Bryan>	while your at it, there are more of those things in there
[20:28:39] <Bryan>	oh well those are checked
[20:31:24] <sektor>	how can i set the logo in my media wiki ?
[20:32:16] <Skizzerz>	!logo
[20:32:16] --mwbot--	The logo that appears in the top left of each page is determined by the $wgLogo configuration setting in the LocalSettings.php file. To change this you simply need to change the value of $wgLogo to point to the URL of your own logo image. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgLogo> for more information.
[20:37:33] <Simetrical>	AaronSchulz, how can $users ever be 0?
[20:37:46] <AaronSchulz>	if people piss around with the db
[20:37:50] <Simetrical>	If it is, that probably *shouldn't* be suppressed, because it's screwed up.
[20:37:52] <AaronSchulz>	but generally, no
[20:37:55] <Simetrical>	It should be fixed somehow.
[20:38:09] <Simetrical>	Reporting zero users is a bad idea, since it's obviously wrong.
[20:38:23] <MinuteElectron>	If you import tables.sql manually that could happen.
[20:38:30] <MinuteElectron>	Some users might do that.
[20:38:40] <MinuteElectron>	Then run maintenance/createAndPromote.php etc.
[20:39:21] <sektor>	Skizzerz, that page said to edit LocalSettings.php but i can on find NoLocalSettings.php
[20:39:49] <sektor>	Skizzerz, /wiki/includes/templates/NoLocalSettins.php
[20:39:49] <Skizzerz>	sektor: it should be in your main mediawiki directory
[20:40:01] <Skizzerz>	uh, it should be /wiki/LocalSettings.php
[20:40:23] <sektor>	Skizzerz, yup i see it 
[20:40:28] <sektor>	Skizzerz, how can i edit this file ?
[20:40:47] <Skizzerz>	are you using ftp or ssh to access it?
[20:40:53] <sektor>	ssh
[20:40:59] *Skizzerz 	prefers nano
[20:41:05] <Skizzerz>	nano LocalSettings.php
[20:41:07] <sektor>	yeah i did nano
[20:41:34] <Skizzerz>	then just add $wgLogo = 'http://path/to/logo.png'; in there somewhere
[20:41:36] <Skizzerz>	and save
[20:41:55] <sektor>	hmmm
[20:42:00] <sektor>	cant find wgLogo
[20:42:14] <sektor>	did ctrl+w wgLogo
[20:42:15] <sektor>	cant find
[20:42:30] <Skizzerz>	you have to add it in
[20:42:40] <Skizzerz>	the majority of config settings are NOT in there by default
[20:43:52] <sektor>	Skizzerz, 
[20:43:59] <Skizzerz>	yes
[20:44:03] <sektor>	by any chance do you know where i can get the images dump ?
[20:44:09] <Skizzerz>	from?
[20:44:10] <sektor>	for wikipedia ?
[20:44:26] <sektor>	for en wikipedia 
[20:45:22] <Skizzerz>	not quite sure
[20:45:48] <Skizzerz>	it'd be linked to from commons though
[20:47:35] <sektor>	Skizzerz, 
[20:47:36] <brion>	currently we don't provide general image dumps
[20:47:47] <brion>	you can ask gmaxwell to rsync from his copy, but it's currently a bit out of date
[20:48:01] <brion>	we're working on restarting syncs to his copy, but this isn't currently ready
[20:48:22] <brion>	since images are a couple terabytes, it's not practical make an actual dump file of them for people to download
[20:48:26] <sektor>	brion, should i email him? and what should i ask in the email ?
[20:48:39] <flyingparchment>	how should people mirroring the site provide images to their readers?
[20:48:56] <Skizzerz>	hotlinking, I assume >_>
[20:49:03] <Skizzerz>	and/or the images don't show
[20:49:32] <sektor>	can my logo be in .svg format ?
[20:50:34] <brion>	flyingparchment: pretty much you hotlink or download them all individually, atm :P
[20:50:44] <Simetrical>	sektor, you could upload it like that to the wiki, but I'm pretty sure you'd need to set $wgLogo to the thumbnail in that case, not the original SVG.
[20:51:41] <sektor>	how can i get thumbnails to work ?
[21:02:03] <sektor>	so i cant use logo.svg in $wgLogo ?
[21:07:30] <brion>	sektor: by itself, no, unless the only people who will ever go to your site have browsers which support SVG images used inline in that way (which may be nobody, uncertain :)
[21:08:39] <^Willie^>	someone any idea how i can install this at media wiki ?
[21:08:40] <^Willie^>	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Interwiki/
[21:08:58] <^Willie^>	what file need to be included so it will not irritate me with missing function errors ?
[21:09:08] <DanielFriesen>	brion: Can you give me a brief explanation on how rev_deleted is being implemented for the deletion of user/comment/content,etc...? I don't know, but it looks like there might be a simpler method
[21:09:12] <^Willie^>	Fatal error: Call to undefined function wfloadextensionmessages() in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mediawiki/extensions/SpecialInterwiki_body.php on line 7
[21:09:53] <sektor>	brion, for example  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/92/Free_Software_Portal_Logo.svg thats an svg and it ls displayed very nicely 
[21:10:14] <brion>	Dantman: the bitfields indicate which fields are restricted, and whether at a weak or strong level
[21:10:17] <sektor>	brion, or should i conver it to png? and what about Jpg? can i use a jpg ?
[21:10:27] <brion>	sektor: just try it and find out
[21:10:36] <Dantman>	Ok... ^_^ Bitfields was what I was thinking of
[21:10:46] <brion>	you could have discovered if it works in 20 seconds an hour ago just by trying it
[21:11:00] <brion>	Dantman: yes they're scary a bit :D
[21:11:07] <^Willie^>	hello ?
[21:11:29] <^Willie^>	i did setup media wiki localy here and wanted the interwiki like at here http://gentoo-wiki.com/Special:Version
[21:11:30] <Dantman>	It's just I saw a lot of talk about files and stuff inside bugzilla entries... And it looked like the idea was to remove data and put it in file storage... bleh
[21:11:54] <brion>	o_O
[21:12:30] <^Willie^>	wfCodeSyntaxHighlight, in the extension functions and  <code>, <man>, <pre>, with the parser tags any idea what version interwiki i need and where the manual is ?
[21:12:38] <Dantman>	^_^ My thought was... (Wait... isn't rev_deleted's whole purpose to stop putting data into an external location)
[21:15:18] <^Willie^>	i guess i did ask something verry normal for an person who is agresive like hell atm .. ignorance is not welcome at all anyway
[21:17:34] <brion>	Dantman: you might be thinking of the particular case of suppression of uploaded file versions?
[21:18:03] <Dantman>	Hmmm... maybe, though I don't think I saw upload in the bug title
[21:18:14] <^Willie^>	?????
[21:22:55] <DanielFriesen>	:/ This computer is anoying
[21:24:18] <^Willie^>	this chanel is anoying :S
[21:29:21] <CIA-50>	03aaron * r34137 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/File.php: Don't keep puring squids for images where no thumb is needed (bug 13776)
[21:29:46] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Images which are too small too need thumbnailing are repeatedly purged from Squid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13776  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[21:32:09] <^Willie^>	again and last time i`ll ask this normal ..
[21:32:25] <CIA-50>	03aaron * r34138 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/File.php: Use getUrl()
[21:32:33] <^Willie^>	i did install mediawiki and want to have it like gentoo-wiki`s mediawiki with the style`s and tags for code highlighting 
[21:33:09] <^Willie^>	the did use some non default interwiki plugin i guess but somehow i can`t figure whitch one and dunno if the did modify it on there own
[21:33:31] <^Willie^>	can someone tell me a little bit info ? atm the nondefault interwiki result in missing functions 
[21:34:20] <CIA-50>	03brion * r34139 10/trunk/tools/bookmarklets/ (. Makefile Makefile.php bookmarklets.html secure-switch.js): 
[21:34:20] <CIA-50>	handy bookmarklet for myself to swap between secure.wikimedia.org and plain http: wikis
[21:34:20] <CIA-50>	doesn't handle all domains properly
[21:34:33] <^Willie^>	posible i`m including the wrong file of the 3 files or need to include 2 of them orso ??
[21:36:03] <brion>	^Willie^: you seem to be asking about some kind of extension
[21:36:16] <brion>	so, check on that wiki, see what extensions are listed on special:version
[21:36:22] <brion>	then use a nice google search and find them
[21:36:54] <^Willie^>	brion: yes and feeling like ebing ignored 
[21:37:11] <^Willie^>	ok i did paste some links whit that info .. moment i paste them again
[21:37:24] <^Willie^>	http://gentoo-wiki.com/Special:Version
[21:37:31] <^Willie^>	there version info..
[21:37:51] <^Willie^>	did endup at this svn link for the non default interwiki 
[21:38:04] <^Willie^>	do i need to include all 3 files or one of the 3 ?
[21:38:05] <CIA-50>	03aaron * r34140 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/File.php: We *want* to purge failures
[21:38:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) DPL2's include parameter broken with new parser - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13677  (10gero.scholz)
[21:39:06] <Bryan>	you'll only need to include one file per extension
[21:40:21] <^Willie^>	hmmzz
[21:40:38] <^Willie^>	Bryan: truely i only want there styles for example this 
[21:40:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) PATCH: Support for rev_deleted in sql dumps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13930  (10brion)
[21:41:13] <Bryan>	fix up your English, I really don't understand it
[21:41:19] <^Willie^>	http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_build_a_LiveCD
[21:41:33] <^Willie^>	i want those style/tag stuff 
[21:42:41] <Bryan>	I think you are talking about the colors of the boxes, etc?
[21:42:52] <Bryan>	that is CSS and does have nothing to do with extensions
[21:43:04] <^Willie^>	hmmzz 
[21:43:16] <^Willie^>	nice ..
[21:43:29] <^Willie^>	<- stressed verry mutch atm .. can`t focus :S
[22:03:49] <jordanisip>	Hi all, I just installed MediaWiki on my site and I was wondering what the best way is to have a "template" loaded into the textarea when a user creates a new article.
[22:04:30] <Splarka>	so is ajaxsearch.js pretty much deprecated to death with mwsuggest.js ?
[22:05:00] <Splarka>	jordanisip: voluntarily, or automatically?
[22:05:16] <jordanisip>	auto would be great
[22:06:21] <Splarka>	then you'd need a tiny bit of javascript
[22:07:12] <jordanisip>	Do you know of one that is already written?
[22:07:21] <Splarka>	well, I'll write one for ya, one sec
[22:07:38] <Splarka>	<div class="mw-newarticletext"> wraps around the text contained in MediaWiki:Newarticletext
[22:07:50] <Splarka>	and MediaWiki:Newarticletext shows above the edit page of an uncreated article
[22:08:26] <jordanisip>	right
[22:08:32] <Splarka>	would this be for all namespaces or just the article namespace?
[22:08:49] <jordanisip>	just the article
[22:09:07] <Splarka>	so
[22:09:08] <Splarka>	if(wgAction == 'edit' && wgNamespaceNumber == 0)
[22:09:25] <Splarka>	as a conditional, then it only goes that far if one is editing a main namespace page
[22:10:01] <Splarka>	then an onload hook because the textarea doesn't show yet...
[22:10:01] <jordanisip>	are those variables already defined?
[22:10:21] <Splarka>	well, what version of MW are you using?
[22:10:59] <jordanisip>	1.12.0
[22:11:14] <Splarka>	view any page source, near the top should be a large list of js variables
[22:11:27] <Splarka>	starting with skin = "monobook"; or such
[22:11:55] <jordanisip>	ah yep, i see them
[22:12:59] <Splarka>	okay so...
[22:16:23] <Splarka>	jordanisip: http://p.defau.lt/?Bll6d4KZW_lsLTlOOa236w
[22:16:52] <Splarka>	first if checks that: main namspace, edit action, article doesn't exist
[22:16:56] <Splarka>	second checks that there is a textbox
[22:17:17] <Splarka>	third checks that the textbox is empty, and that there is at least one <div class="mw-newarticletext">
[22:17:22] <jordanisip>	excellent, thanks!
[22:17:29] <Splarka>	the reason it checks for <div class="mw-newarticletext"> is because it is possible to edit a new article without it, using &editintro
[22:17:45] <Splarka>	btw, you may wish to make some conditional preloads too
[22:17:52] <Splarka>	you can do this by editing MediaWiki:Newarticletext
[22:18:00] <Splarka>	and adding a link like ...
[22:18:11] *Splarka 	looks it up
[22:20:03] <Splarka>	[{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAMEE}}|action=edit&preload=Template:Preload/Newpage_something&editintro=Template:Preload_instructions}} Preload something]
[22:20:24] <Splarka>	what this does is make a link to the current page, with &action=edit and the preload and editintro parameters
[22:20:46] <Splarka>	with &preload you can define a template to preload into the text box, this needs no JS and is done server-side
[22:20:53] <Splarka>	but note that it is voluntary, not automatic like above
[22:21:01] <Splarka>	here is an example: http://tv.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Newarticletext?action=edit
[22:21:07] <jordanisip>	interesting
[22:21:10] <jordanisip>	i'll look into that
[22:21:13] <jordanisip>	thanks!
[22:21:14] <Splarka>	k
[22:21:15] <Splarka>	noprob
[22:21:17] <Splarka>	enjoy ^_^
[22:21:21] <jordanisip>	:)
[22:36:43] <Bensawsome>	im just wondering one thing
[22:37:00] <Bensawsome>	i have php4 on my server
[22:37:19] <Bensawsome>	and it said 1.5.8 is the latest version of mediawiki that works with it
[22:37:37] <Simetrical>	Bensawsome, it's 1.6.10, as the topic says.
[22:38:01] <Bensawsome>	.........
[22:38:09] <Bensawsome>	the latest version that works with php4?
[22:38:12] <Skizzerz>	yes
[22:38:25] <Bensawsome>	.............
[22:38:26] <Bensawsome>	ok
[22:38:27] <Bensawsome>	thanks
[22:38:39] *Skizzerz 	recommends upgrading PHP if you are able :)
[22:39:12] <Bensawsome>	but does it have any significant bugs that could prevent it from running in a situation?
[22:39:40] <Skizzerz>	1.6.10?
[22:39:41] <MrCheerful>	i got wood
[22:39:59] <Bensawsome>	@skizzerz i would love to do that but someone else hosting it
[22:40:02] <Skizzerz>	should be relatively bug-free
[22:40:06] <Bensawsome>	ok
[22:40:09] <Bensawsome>	kewl
[22:40:16] <Bensawsome>	thanks guys
[22:40:22] <Simetrical>	It's well over a year old by now, of course.
[22:40:27] <Bensawsome>	ya
[22:55:06] <sektor>	how can i set this as my logo ?
[22:55:07] <sektor>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Free_Software_Portal_Logo.svg
[22:55:11] <sektor>	its an svg
[22:57:13] <Splarka>	save the png at about 150x and upload it?
[22:57:17] <Splarka>	eg: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/92/Free_Software_Portal_Logo.svg/150px-Free_Software_Portal_Logo.svg.png
[22:57:53] <sektor>	but how can i save it as a png when its an svg
[22:58:48] <Splarka>	see the thing I linked to? that is a png
[22:59:00] <Splarka>	wikimedia uses rsvg which renders all svg as png when thumbnailed 
[23:11:40] <sektor>	so the logo doesnt show in the modern skin ?
[23:28:14] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) In r33988 disabled fallback for extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13872  +comment (10alefzet)
[23:28:36] <wikibugs>	03(CLOSED) In r33988 disabled fallback for extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13872  (10alefzet)
[23:30:11] <sektor>	Splarka, the logo doesnt work in the modern skin ?
[23:31:33] <Splarka>	the modern skin has no logo it looks like
[23:31:52] <Danny_B>	is it possible to create either tag or pfunc which would have same behavior as <onlyinclude> or <includeonly> has?
[23:31:53] <Danny_B>	so instead of writing <includeonly><mytag>some data</mytag></includeonly> i'd write <myincludeonlytag>some data</myincludeonlytag>
[23:32:49] <Splarka>	a parallel function?
[23:38:24] <CIA-50>	03aaron * r34141 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Migrate page_ext fields to a new table
[23:39:06] <AaronSchulz>	G_SabinoMullane?
[23:39:15] <AaronSchulz>	can you update PG?
[23:43:31] <CIA-50>	03aaron * r34142 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.php: $wgFlaggedRevsNamespaces only
[23:44:10] <sektor>	so after the importing of .xls dump will be complete, will i be able to get my mediawiki to look like this 
[23:44:25] <sektor>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Free_software
[23:47:15] <CIA-50>	03aaron * r34143 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.sql archives/patch-flaggedpages.sql): int(10) -> integer
[23:48:37] <Danny_B>	Splarka: what you mean by parallel? the purpose is actually to simplify the coding for users. so instead of wrapping my extension tag/pfunc within <includeonly>/<onlyinclude> my extension would behave the same without wrapping
[23:54:09] <chuck>	what's the point of this:
[23:54:16] <chuck>	(in /maintenance/update.php)
[23:54:16] <chuck>	$wgTitle = Title::newFromText( "MediaWiki database updater" );
[23:56:08] <MZMcBride>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit
[23:56:17] <jordanisip>	splarka: I'm playing with the conditional preloads you mentioned and it seems to be working great.  One question though, is it possible to link a new page to include these preload and editintro params?
[23:56:21] <MZMcBride>	On that page, there are bullets above the text area. How would I make those go away?
[23:56:58] <chuck>	MZMcBride: hmm, i wonder who did that
[23:57:18] <MZMcBride>	The bullets? It's in the software. :(
[23:58:31] <Splarka>	jordanisip: well, not easily, that would require an ajax call, and make the script about 20x more complex
[23:58:48] <Splarka>	unless you mean the voluntary preloads, in which case it is, yes
[23:59:49] <jordanisip>	I think I am talking about the voluntary preloads...basically I just want to link to something like index.php?title=Blah&action=edit&preload=Template:pattern&editintro=Template:pattern_instructions