[00:06:05] 03(NEW) Add parser function #ifnumber or similar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14034 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; (tim) [00:06:31] hiya Fire [00:07:58] Ooh, neat, SQLite support! [00:08:24] sup chari [00:08:44] Except . . . he forgot to svn add the new file? :) [00:08:46] Who's nad? [00:08:53] <[twisti]> what does the red ! in recent changes mean ? [00:08:57] Oh, there we go. [00:09:00] [twisti], unpatrolled. [00:09:01] !patrol [00:09:01] --mwbot-- It's a feature, not a bug :) [00:09:02] sorry, didnt see your message, only chari/charitwo ping. my attention was drawn to another channel [00:09:08] o_O [00:09:10] !patrolling [00:09:10] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "patrolling". [00:09:27] !patrol [00:09:27] --mwbot-- It's a feature, not a bug :) [00:09:31] hehehe [00:09:35] oop [00:09:38] be careful too [00:09:39] !petrol [00:09:39] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "petrol". [00:09:43] *amidaniel stabs Splarka [00:09:44] flagged revisions use the same red ! [00:09:49] <[twisti]> so, uh, what does that mean ? [00:10:01] It means nobody has said "this revision is okay to me" [00:10:04] if de.wikipedians come in asking about red ! do not tell them it is patrolled editing, but flagged editing [00:10:17] 03(NEW) Consider position change of #mw-revisiontag box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14035 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (Wiki.Melancholie) [00:10:58] Splarka: It's indicated on Watchdetails, shouldn't be an issue [00:11:10] <[twisti]> i see, thank you, Dashiva [00:11:39] ami: I think I suggested to you to suggest they put it there yes... but it also shows on recent changes [00:11:55] 03simetrical * r34407 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Update RELEASE-NOTES. [00:12:15] 03aaron * r34408 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (4 files): Split off UI functions to FlaggedRevsUI.php [00:13:38] Splarka: No, they suggested to me that I suggest to someonewith powerz that he put it up there and then told you about it at which time you suggested I do what had already been suggested to me ;) [00:14:07] sweety [00:14:09] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Rcnote [00:14:12] sweet, even!@ [00:14:16] 03aaron * r34409 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevsUI.php): Leave quickreview [00:14:19] hehe, freudian typo [00:14:29] *Splarka messes with your bot instead [00:14:47] >:{} [00:14:53] Poor mwbot [00:14:56] *amidaniel pets mwbot [00:15:09] !! [00:15:09] --mwbot-- A red exclamation point (!)in recent changes or on your watchlist is due to either the enabling of patrolled editing or the Flagged Revisions extension [00:15:23] howzat? [00:16:33] o.o [00:16:57] *Splarka giggles [00:17:13] I believe I used !! as an escape character somewhere, so don't scream at me if something breaks ;) [00:18:13] !4! [00:18:13] --mwbot-- A red exclamation point (!)in recent changes or on your watchlist is due to either the enabling of patrolled editing or the Flagged Revisions extension [00:18:21] there... [00:18:27] Oh for the love of pete ... [00:18:31] *Splarka hides [00:18:37] hmmm [00:18:39] !diediedie [00:18:39] --mwbot-- You shouldn't do this, but since you asked: [00:18:48] amidaniel: you should really crontab mwbot, people keep complaining when it doesn't come up after a reboot [00:18:58] Yeahyeah I know [00:19:05] I'm lazy though :) [00:19:12] 03aaron * r34410 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (5 files): Rename, fix typos [00:19:13] Splarka: it's still there :o [00:19:18] And don't have a hardcoded simple way to bring him up in one command [00:19:25] I'll get to it at some point :) [00:19:43] there, removed all the silly !!, and replaced with !exclamation [00:20:14] @dump [00:20:14] --mwbot-- A dump is now available at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html [00:22:44] hi Gracenotes [00:22:55] ^_^ Not crontab... Have God watch over mwbot [00:23:19] hey Charitwo :) [00:23:54] *amidaniel sends out a prayer for mwbot [00:24:28] Fuck, I forgot, God only listens to Mormons [00:24:34] 03nad * r34411 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DatabaseSqlite.php: Remove backticks from table or db.table [00:25:55] 03(NEW) #ifexist: is producing line break for first condition - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14036 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (Wiki.Melancholie) [00:26:22] 03(mod) #ifexist: is producing line break on first condition - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14036 summary (10Wiki.Melancholie) [00:26:59] 03(mod) Add parser function #ifnumber or similar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14034 +comment (10dan_the_man) [00:27:00] Heh [00:27:17] http://god.rubyforge.org [00:27:24] Someone should make a Unix utility named "God" and get everyone to use it. [00:27:36] Yeah, like that. [00:27:49] ^_^ Heh... yup [00:28:03] I'm actually going to configure it after I get SHID built [00:28:44] T_T My PHP FastCGI process keeps dieing randomly... [00:30:23] wb [00:31:08] ^_^ Now if we only had IRC God [00:31:22] 03(mod) Add parser function #ifnumber or similar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14034 (10herd) [00:31:32] bah, edit conflict in bugzilla [00:31:35] *Splarka bited Dantman [00:32:18] heh [00:44:09] Well... time for class [00:50:13] Splarka, mid-air collision! [00:50:20] *Splarka winks [00:50:44] Simetrical: am I right in thinking all the parser functions requested could be done as templates with existing functions? [01:00:50] Splarka, I've heard that wikitext is Turing-complete, so probably, yes. [01:01:39] 03(mod) Create Wikimania 2009 website - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13547 (10cbrown1023) [01:02:43] 03(NEW) Split up #ca-nstab-main tab into two variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14037 minor; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (Wiki.Melancholie) [01:06:10] 03(mod) Show #ca-current tab letters in bold on edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14032 normal->lowest; +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [01:13:13] 03(mod) Show #ca-current tab letters in bold on edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14032 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [01:18:19] hi all , i'm about to write an article named "History and culture" in "Linux for newbies" and the same one in "FreeBSD for newbies" , how to separate them ? [01:18:52] "of Linux" [01:19:00] 03(mod) Split up #ca-nstab-main tab into two variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14037 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [01:19:19] flyingparchment: You mean change the titile? [01:19:23] yes [01:19:42] flyingparchment: that's a good idea but any other solution? [01:19:57] you can't have two separate articles with the same name, so no [01:20:12] flyingparchment: i see , thx for help , i'll check it [01:21:47] usual Wikipedia style is to take the one article the majority of users will be looking for at that name, and have an indented italic subheading at the top pointing to the other in parenthesis [01:22:00] if neither has a clear majority, then a disambiguation is created [01:22:50] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat is about the animal, but at the top is a link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_%28disambiguation%29 [01:23:15] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square meanwhile is a disambiguation directly [01:24:17] 03(mod) Add parser function #ifnumber or similar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14034 (10tim) [01:27:22] 03(mod) #ifexist: is producing line break on first condition - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14036 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [01:27:53] 03(mod) #ifexist: is producing line break on first condition - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14036 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [01:32:20] *AaronSchulz disables Preprocessor_Hash.php [01:32:35] good, time outs stopped [01:32:47] 03(mod) #ifexist: is producing line break on first condition if semicolon is first character - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14036 summary (10Wiki.Melancholie) [01:33:52] 03(mod) #ifexist: is producing line break if semicolon is first character - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14036 summary (10Wiki.Melancholie) [01:40:58] 03aaron * r34412 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php): XHTML [01:48:00] 03(mod) If a template was changed, logged-in users see old template content in articles for about 1 minute - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14030 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [01:55:38] 03siebrand * r34413 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: Some more XHTML [02:03:54] 03(NEW) article&stable=0 should not be resulting URL after edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14038 trivial; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (Wiki.Melancholie) [02:04:22] 03(mod) ?title=article&stable= 0 should not be the resulting URL after edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14038 normal->lowest; summary (10Wiki.Melancholie) [02:05:15] 03(WONTFIX) ?title=article&stable= 0 should not be the resulting URL after edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14038 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [02:12:40] can anyone explain why i get this error when uploading a file? [02:12:40] ".txt" is an unwanted file type [02:12:40] List of allowed file types: png, gif, jpg, jpeg, exe, sh, zip, pdf, txt, doc, rsc [02:12:52] the filename is test-template.com.zone.txt [02:13:14] 03(mod) Split up #ca-nstab-main tab into two variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14037 minor->normal; normal->high (10JSchulz_4587) [02:13:35] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgFileExtensions [02:14:13] Splarka - .txt is listed in there though, as shown by the second line of the error [02:14:56] ahh, then it is probably in the blacklisted thingy... [02:15:08] check $wgFileBlacklis [02:15:12] $wgFileBlacklist even [02:15:56] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgFileBlacklist (although txt is not there by default) [02:16:11] txt is not in the blacklist [02:16:28] do you have mime detection on for uploads? [02:16:44] iirc i turned that off, but i'm not certain [02:18:06] it is commented so it is off [02:18:17] #commented to allow uploading of m [02:18:26] odd then [02:18:33] oh idea.. [02:19:00] ha! [02:19:02] can you upload other .txt files without .com. in the title and with plain ascii contents? [02:19:11] ren test-template.com.zone.txt to test-template.txt [02:19:16] it was reading .com i think [02:19:34] (the file is a zone file, for dns - ascii to begin with =) [02:19:46] heh [02:34:25] 03(mod) ?title=article&stable= 0 should not be the resulting URL after edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14038 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [02:57:56] hi people... [02:58:38] who knows how I compare the diff for 2 articles? [03:01:56] Marcelo: open up the history, then click the two revisions you wish to compare, and hit the button [03:02:31] Charitwo, no no... I can use a method for this on php [03:19:46] 03(NEW) Setup DB and templates through Admin Web page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14039 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: MetaVidWiki; (johnf) [03:20:07] Charitwo I see this class: DifferenceEngine [03:22:07] i know this is a super simple question but i'm not sure where i'd find the answer, how do you globally set it so only registered users can edit? [03:22:24] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights [03:22:34] eg: $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [03:23:31] ty :) [03:25:15] *Fire is too stupid to get X-Forwarding running. [03:26:03] 03(mod) Setup DB and templates through Admin Web page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14039 (10johnf) [03:26:06] wb [03:26:17] thx [03:29:09] Anyone with some experience with x-fwding? [03:30:15] Are the scripts or bots to create or update a bunch of MediaWiki pages? I think there's a python framework but I can't find it. [03:31:26] there is Pywikipediabot [03:35:49] 03(mod) Add parser function #ifnumber or similar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14034 (10herd) [03:38:15] Splarka thanks, checking it out. Another p* language :-/ [03:39:08] heh [03:42:59] ah i hear pywikibot is the best [03:45:41] Pywikipediabot is not very friendly for working with your own wiki, I have to build a family before I can get started. [03:45:52] I don't want to mess with Wikipedia, just a MediaWiki install. [03:47:33] Python u'some string'? It's 2008. UTF-8 won. [03:49:35] Maybe it's easier to fabricate an XML file with some wiki text in it and use Special:Import [04:06:39] 03dale * r34414 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (6 files in 4 dirs): [04:06:40] patch 4887 applied [04:06:40] java playhead stubs [05:35:02] 03brion * r34415 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [05:35:02] A bunch of Unicode constants got moved at some point out of the Unicode normalization library into core Defines.php, breaking the data file generation & testing. [05:35:02] Moved them out to a separate file in the library which can be cleanly included from both places for transparent happiness. [05:35:03] A fresh rebuild & test of UtfNormal data via 'make test' now works fine. [06:05:14] brion : may i ask you to have a look at http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php?revision=34306&view=markup [06:05:49] I would like to know how to use touchLinks [06:06:18] apparently i did not get it right [06:07:34] You would be able to, if he were there [06:08:08] good to know that :-) [06:09:44] meow [06:09:51] gm [06:19:38] 03raymond * r34416 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Add classes to table cells to allow individual colors per level [06:29:03] 03brion * r34417 10/trunk/phase3/ (9 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) [06:29:03] * (bug 13615) Update case mappings and normalization to Unicode 5.1.0 [06:29:03] Note that case mappings will only be used if mbstring extension is not present. [06:29:03] Normalization data files updated to Unicode 5.1.0; passes the automated tests. [06:29:03] Seem to have long since lost the script I originally used to generate the Utf8Case.php mapping file, which appears not to have been updated since 2002 or so. :) [06:29:07] Made a new one and moved it into the UtfNormal sub-library. [06:29:09] Note a couple limitations: [06:31:13] 03(FIXED) update support to Unicode 5.1.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13615 +comment (10brion) [06:31:28] 03rotem * r34418 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update. [06:32:57] 03rotem * r34419 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: Remove a reverted message. [07:03:08] Hi guys.. I'm rebuilding what was a dead wiki.. I've started replacing the old images, but the Image:(name) pages still exist so I'm uploading onto them and replacing that way. [07:03:21] The only problem is that the files aren't recognised as being linked from any pages. [07:03:35] They're all under the unused files special page despite being used. [07:03:42] Is there a maintenance script I can run for it? [07:03:54] I want to check instead of randomly running one :P [07:07:55] 03nikerabbit * r34420 10/trunk/extensions/APC/APCCacheMode.php: * Fix percentage [07:08:58] <_wooz> lo [07:29:59] Hi, wondering if anyone can help me, I want to have images in my wiki pages, but I don't want them to be links to the Image page for that image, actually, not having it clickable at all would be best. [07:30:27] But I can't seem to find any obvious way to do it [07:38:13] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Non-clickable_Images [07:39:28] Doh, i've spent ages searching for that! [07:39:41] ;) [07:39:57] *ashak feels like such a fool [07:42:48] where would I go if I wanted to submit code? [07:43:16] I took one mediawiki function that was 160 lines and cut it down to 2 [07:43:27] want to know if the devs would be interested :) [07:43:57] Sazpaimon: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org :) [07:44:09] it isnt a bug though [07:44:15] just bloat [07:44:22] It's used as a general issues tracker. [07:44:25] unless the mediawiki guys associate bloat with bugs :P [07:44:42] alright, I'll look into it [07:44:43] Probably. ;) [07:44:44] You might also try posting on . [07:44:50] for refrence, its the bold/italic code [07:44:53] its 160 lines [07:45:16] i replaced the whole damn thing with 2 preg_replace()s, and it gave almost the exact same output [07:45:51] mine is a bit better though ''''word'''' returns 'word' in my code, the original gives 'word' [07:46:02] note where the bold starts :P [07:46:52] Cool. :) [07:47:39] Im using it in the wiki Im coding, Im trying to maintain mediawiki compatibility with markups, but im supporting raw html and bbcode too [07:51:41] Sazpaimon: is it in /includes/Parser.php? [07:51:55] yes [07:52:13] function doQuotes [07:52:58] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/Parser.php?view=annotate much of that hasn't changed in several years [07:53:11] hoo boy [07:53:20] so i guess i'll need some luck submitting to that [07:53:22] you should talk to tstarling or Brion about it [07:53:39] they pop in irc often? [07:53:44] but I am pretty sure they'll say "almost the same isn't good enough" [07:54:06] thats what I was afraid of [07:54:09] when changing things they very often have to support old "bugs" that have become features [07:54:16] but that difference i said is the only difference [07:54:17] due to the expected behavior [07:54:23] and in fact, my way looks better [07:54:28] [citation needed] [07:54:38] *Sazpaimon rolls eyes [07:54:45] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_to_the_new_preprocessor [07:55:08] Tim recently rewrote the preprocessor from scratch basically, to greater efficiency [07:55:31] ah [07:55:35] thats good [07:55:37] and of millions of pages and months of testing, there were still 17 unresolvable differences [07:55:55] when coding my mediawiki compatibility, ive so far noticed code decreases of 70% or more [07:56:05] (there were dozens if not hundreds of differences that were "fixed" along the way) [07:56:12] at least, when comparing to the original mediawiki code [07:56:36] right, but any change that doesn't reproduce the previous results is not easy to shove down people's throats [07:56:58] for example, named parameters and unnamed parameters have different whitespace behavior in template calls [07:57:03] are they really gonna be that picky over whether or not the first ' in ''''word'''' is bold or not? [07:57:10] yes, they probably will [07:57:42] well, cant say I didn't try :P [07:58:03] to fix this whitespace "bug" would have been an easy task in the newPP, but people complained when it broke lots of expected behavior [07:58:26] well, i threw my code in a mediawiki with quite a few articles [07:58:28] it isn't just the devs that this stuff has to get by [07:58:33] nobody's complained [07:58:35] ...yet [07:58:38] it is millions of users on wikimedia who complain after [07:58:42] chaskol: hrm, I made that change and yet my images are still clickable. [07:59:02] aka. en.wikipedia complained when their abominations of wikitext called templates broke [07:59:03] yeah i follow [07:59:12] lemme find the recent example [07:59:40] well at the very least i can gloat that my functions produce nearly the same output with much less code [07:59:40] not that that isnt hard [07:59:40] :P [08:00:18] so, can you produce the same output? [08:00:33] if i tweak the regex a bit sure [08:01:00] right now its just as simple as $text = preg_replace("/'''(.+?[^'])('*)'''/","$1$2", $text); [08:01:29] have you looked at the code that couples brace pairs/triplets? [08:01:39] example? [08:01:49] eg, resolving {{{{{{{{{}}}}}}}}}} into {*{{*{{{*{{{}}}*}}}*}}*}} [08:01:59] no i have not [08:02:03] er *{{{*{{{*{{{}}}*}}}*}}}*} even [08:02:55] what would this be for? [08:03:25] template/magicword/parserfunction calls vs template parameters [08:03:30] Im not a mediawiki user, Im just coding my own wiki software for compatibility [08:03:36] a similar problem to the '''''''''''''''-'''''''''''''' problem [08:04:43] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Preprocessor_ABNF [08:05:15] I guess if the code is shoddy like the bolding code it can be done simmilarly [08:05:15] tplarg precedence [08:05:27] if thats what you mean [08:05:51] I am not a php coder, just a wikicode coder [08:06:00] ah [08:06:11] several of us helped him debug the new preprocessor... we knew what to look for and complain about ^_^ [08:06:23] well, i know for a fact that though my code doesnt give 100% the same output, its more effecient [08:06:30] like when behaves differently among the two processors [08:06:32] no, no [citation needed] for that one [08:06:48] preg_replace() is much more efficient in php [08:07:56] well, if you are that confident, submit a proposed patch to bugzilla (it is for all bugs, features, patches, and shell requests) [08:08:35] you make it seem like efficiency on the server-side isnt as imporant as the resulting output though :/ [08:09:45] it often seems that way [08:10:24] thats a shame [08:10:40] *Splarka does a search for "WONTFIX" and "more efficient" [08:11:28] I mean, take a site like wikipedia, a few ms of difference in execution time, times a million users every couple minutes [08:12:24] well... 50k hits a second.. but most of those are cacheable [08:12:27] Im a network administrator so I know to make all my code work to keep resource usage to the minimal possible [08:12:45] and even the backend requests aren't all passed through the parser [08:13:26] http://hemlock.knams.wikimedia.org/~leon/stats/reqstats/reqstats-daily.png [08:13:52] if you want to talk about different output, you should check out my indent code [08:14:07] looks like about 2-3k/s backend [08:14:12] i went against mediawiki's
and replaced it with spans with left padding [08:14:21] heh [08:14:43] fr.wikipedia would go ballistic [08:16:02] but in this case, the end user wouldnt notice a difference :P [08:16:17] fr.wikipedia would [08:16:22] the HTML is different, sure, but the output is the same [08:16:23] how so? [08:16:43] well, look at a talk page: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discuter:Accueil [08:17:06] also, does it perform the same as dd for left-floating images? [08:17:49] im not sure, ive only incorperated it for :::: at the beginning of a line [08:18:05] hi my wiki is under a linux system and i want to enabe svg images so i did that with imagemagick, but somehow the pics look shit...so does anybody know any other programms which i can use or which are normally installed or just any hint? [08:18:14] rsvg [08:18:22] i tried that [08:18:39] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/SVG_benchmarks [08:18:43] what was the problem with it? [08:18:51] pics look the same like in imagemagick...with rsvg i just have to put svgconverter i don't have to set converter path? [08:19:29] oh awesome [08:19:35] there is a way to mount sftp in windows [08:19:40] mhm the pictures don't look like they used to be, the text is mixed up and not at the original position etc. [08:20:17] is there a way to import wikidiff2 output into another wiki install? [08:20:28] hmm, mond: how do the same images look on Wikimedia wikis? Wikimedia uses rsvg too, but known "problems" include embedded bitmaps (ignored), external references to images (ignored) and unsupported fonts (paths preferred) [08:22:43] mhm ok maybe i did something wrong..so to set up svg converter i have to set $wgSVGConverter = 'rsvg'; $wgFileExtensions[] = 'svg'; anything else? [08:23:19] well, try some svg images from commons.wikimedia and see if they render the same as there [08:23:45] ah ok i see... [08:24:05] (svg is never quite perfect in mediawiki...) [08:24:44] does hash preprocessor use more memory than dom one? [08:35:43] Is there any way to find a list of bad image links? File-based though, as the Image: page is still there but the file isn't. [08:38:44] splarka: Error creating thumbnail: ... rsvg: command not found did i forget a parameter? i setted $wgSVGConverter = 'rsvg'; $wgFileExtensions[] = 'svg'; [08:39:38] mondschein: "rsvg: command not found" means rsvg is not there. not installed, or atleast not on the system path [08:42:13] mhm ah so i have to somehow find out what kind of svg- bla-programms i have installed? well i have image magick but all pictures look weird [08:42:37] imagemagick sucks badly at rendering svg [08:42:56] ja :( [08:43:08] mondschein: What OS are you on? [08:43:09] you probably want to install rsvg if it's not there. batik is also good, but it needs a java runtime and it's slow. [08:43:17] so i have to install rsvg? [08:43:32] mhm ok...thanks for the help :) [08:43:33] I'd fall back to Imagemagic before you go all the way to Batik [08:43:37] sodipody/inkscape should work ok, but they are meade for the desktop and have a lot of gui.dependencies [08:43:58] Dantman: imagemagick for svg is pretty much useless. [08:44:04] Ack... [08:44:08] I meant Inkscape [08:44:08] it's so bad, it's not even funny [08:44:12] ah [08:44:18] bleh... they both start with I [08:44:34] well, yea, but in a server environment, dependency on java is probably less bad than having to install hald of gnome :) [08:44:34] rsvg if you can get it (best if you have a package management system to install it with), and if not then Inkscape [08:44:45] heh [08:45:03] rsvg < inkscape. inkscape as a lot more dependencies, is way havier, etc [08:45:32] it's a desktop app. it's not made for background rendering [08:46:43] Ya... though it's usefull for when you have a lot of Inkscape made svg's [08:48:18] sure, max compatibility that way. though rsvg has better compliance to the standard, afaik. batik is best wrt that [08:48:34] none is perfect [08:48:57] svg is the html/css of graphic formats. it never looks quite the same... [09:11:51] 03jojo * r34421 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/pdf-server/pdf-server.py: security fixes: use subprocess module to exec cmds. check POST data before creating directories. [09:15:06] 03(NEW) Change of protection should not unflag a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14040 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (raimond.spekking) [09:20:04] 03(mod) Gender switch in user preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13040 (10Ahonc.ua) [09:24:36] 03dantman * r34422 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Database.php: Make tableName test for words like JOIN or ON which signal that we are actually looking at a SQL query thrown into the tableName because someone used the simple handlers in ways they really should not be. [09:27:17] Ack [09:30:01] 03dantman * r34423 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Database.php: Ahh great. I mixed up my definition of preg_match's output and thought it was the one to return an offset, and false on failure. [09:43:50] 03jojo * r34424 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/pdf-server/pdf-server.py: some cleanups. make it work w/ Python 2.4. [09:52:41] 03nikerabbit * r34425 10/trunk/extensions/APC/ (SpecialAPC.php ViewAPC.php): [09:52:41] * Hide menubar for unpriviledged users [09:52:41] * Don't allow unpriviledges users to clear cache items [09:52:55] :O [09:53:11] anyone using that extensions want to update :< [10:00:23] Duesentrieb: around? [10:05:45] 03catrope * r34426 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ (ApiQueryAllUsers.php ApiQueryUsers.php): Reverting r34388, DanTMan fixed Database::select() in r34442. [10:08:55] i'm looking for a voting plugin, something like digg, or thumbs up/down, etc. something simple. can anyone suggest something? [10:13:41] Damn machine [10:27:53] 03(NEW) LiquidThreads uses deprecated addPrimaryWikiText() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14041 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (jt) [10:29:25] hi everybody, whats the php function to get the article content? [10:30:49] hi everybody, whats the php function to get the article content? [10:30:58] in a string or so [10:30:58] 03(mod) Wikimedia redirect tables are missing many entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10931 (10erwin85) [10:34:16] ?anybody? [10:37:34] is there a function like Article->getContent(), but that gives you the content formatted, and not the wiki language? [10:38:42] is there anybody on the chat or what? :/ [10:41:18] ? [10:41:20] ? [10:41:22] im alla lone [10:41:25] alone* [10:44:00] never used irc before, huh? [10:44:32] you must parse the wikitext [10:51:15] k thx [11:02:10] 03(mod) Change of protection should not unflag a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14040 (10JSchulz_4587) [11:02:19] Raymond_? [11:02:36] AaronSchulz: yes? [11:02:41] ^ [11:03:18] 03dantman * r34427 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Database.php: SMW also sends horrid statements containing DISTINCT and AS which suffer the same issue as the ugly API queries. Guess we have to secure against this use to. [11:04:15] AaronSchulz: I have tested it shortly. A sysop with editor right doesn't unflag the page but a sysops who are non-editors unflag the page [11:04:26] -a [11:05:58] hi [11:06:18] hello [11:07:44] hey [11:12:20] 03aaron * r34428 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Fix null edit review (bug 14040) [11:12:30] 03(FIXED) Change of protection should not unflag a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14040 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [11:12:37] yeah \o/ [11:13:05] *Fire yawns. [11:13:12] I desperately need some sleep. [11:13:59] 03aaron * r34429 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Rm bogus comment [11:14:07] *rainman-sr hands Fire-away a pillow [11:14:59] *Fire-away thanks. [11:15:57] hi all [11:16:24] I have an idea [11:18:15] 03aaron * r34430 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.php: Show size [11:18:36] Hrm, I just tried this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Non-clickable_Images , but it doesn't seem to have stopped the images in my wiki being clickable. Does anyone have any ideas? [11:19:39] It's literally swapping a true for a false, but it's not done anything. [11:23:43] ashak: have a look at the Icon extension [11:23:55] oh, the bot is back [11:23:58] !e Icon [11:23:58] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Icon [11:24:50] Duesentrieb: ooh, that looks cool [11:28:14] you can also use "external" images.. but you can't thumbnail them... [11:29:22] ^_^ Time to install another extension... [11:29:29] Well... right after GGPS comes online [11:30:46] *Dantman wishes MySQL had a DROP TEMPORARY DATABASE permission instead of tieng that in with DROP [11:31:03] wtf is a temporary database? [11:31:18] Don't know to much about it... [11:31:34] i know temporary tables. but temporary database? does that even exist? [11:31:44] Heh oh... whoops [11:31:46] and you can drop temp tables without having permission to drop other stuff [11:31:55] Hrm, the icon extension kind of does what I want, but lacks some of the cool functionality of the normal Image stuff, like frame and alignment etc. [11:32:03] :/ Tell that to SMW and MySQL [11:32:32] MySQL gives SQL errors if the user doesn't have DROP permissions [11:33:03] *ashak would be quite happy if the stuff onhttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Non-clickable_Images just worked :) [11:33:30] Dantman: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/drop-table.html [11:33:36] Dantman: "no access rights are checked" [11:33:47] :/ Annoying SMW [11:34:06] wtf is smw? [11:34:13] Semantic MediaWiki [11:34:26] ah. uh? [11:34:43] why would that do permission checks? [11:34:43] SMW uses temporary tables [11:34:49] yea. so? [11:35:00] i think mw proper does too. [11:35:14] And when you preview a page with an #ask query... You get SQL errors when the user does not have DROP permissions [11:35:49] what version of mysql are you using? [11:36:27] 5.0 [11:36:44] that should be fine then. sure they use real temporary tables? it should be no problem [11:37:11] requireing drop permission for the db user used by a web application is a MAJOR bug. that's VERY insecure. [11:37:28] Ya [11:37:34] so, go an complain :) [11:37:54] T_T I don't feel like tripple checking [11:46:58] 03(WONTFIX) If a template was changed, logged-in users see old template content in articles for about 1 minute - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14030 (10JSchulz_4587) [12:09:26] Hi guys ! Does anyone know how I can customize the left bar in my MediaWiki ? For instance I like to get rid of some links like "Community portal" and "Current events". [12:10:09] !sidebar | vircuser [12:10:09] --mwbot-- vircuser: To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [12:11:52] Thanks for the link, I check it out ! [12:19:22] Hmm, can't figure out how to edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]]. [12:21:25] vircuser: like any other wiki page. you must be loged in as sysop though [12:21:48] I am. [12:21:59] then you should be able to edit. [12:22:16] if not, s.th. is wrong. [12:22:59] I tried searching for this page; it is not found. I tried adding MediaWiki:Sidebar to my wiki URL and get a "Object Not Found" error. [12:24:51] 03(mod) Add parser function #ifnumber or similar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14034 (10tim) [12:25:03] vircuser: if you get "object not found" you screwed up the url. searching for it on the wiki is the right way. it's empty per default, not sure if the search turned it up as "not found". you can go ahead and edit a page with that name, even if it's shown as not existing [12:25:13] it may even load the default content, no sure. [12:25:21] it does, IIRC [12:25:21] the sidebar handling is a bit magic [12:25:38] it does for most system messages. not sure for the sidebar [12:25:55] Perfect, Duesentrieb, that worked ! [12:33:36] 03catrope * r34431 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ (8 files): [12:33:36] API: [12:33:36] * Added ApiQueryBase::addJoin() which provides a cleaner interface to construct [12:33:36] JOIN queries. Behind the scenes this still uses the old, ugly way, but it'll be [12:33:36] easy to rewrite when/if the Database class gets its own function for JOINs [12:33:37] * Used addJoin() in query modules where necessary [12:33:41] * Removed FORCE INDEX (rc_timestamp) from ApiQueryRecentchanges: it's nigh impossible to integrate with addJoin() and it doesn't seem to be necessary anyway (my MySQL instance automatically chooses rc_timestamp) [12:56:51] what are the most common reasons for a user to be getting a file (with mime-type application/x-trash) save dialog when accessing the wiki? [13:04:43] chelz: A PHP error [13:05:25] i can view the site fine but others can't is the strange thing [13:06:30] RoanKattouw_away: any idea how one could narrow it down? [13:06:51] Look in the web server's error log for PHP errors [13:12:37] 03(NEW) Comments in wrong spot in SQL logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14042 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (seventowers) [13:14:52] 04(REOPENED) Link changes in flagged pages do not update Special: WhatLinksHere - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14014 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [13:18:55] RoanKattouw_away: does this make sense as something that could cause that: [13:18:56] File does not exist: /home/n64projects/public_html/forums/style_images/mid_lum743/t_edit.gif, referer [13:20:53] chelz, no. [13:21:01] !errors | chelz [13:21:01] --mwbot-- chelz: To see PHP errors, add this to the very top of LocalSettings.php: error_reporting(E_ALL); ini_set("display_errors", 1); Fatal PHP errors usually go to Apache's error log - also check the error_log setting in php.ini (or use phpinfo). For more details in wiki error reports, set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; and $wgShowSQLErrors = true; For full debug output, set $wgDebugLogFile to some path you like. [13:21:39] Do the error_reporting/ini_set line and see if that gives an error message when you try to view the page. [13:21:47] can i set it so only bureaucrats and the administrator can see the errors? [13:22:14] chelz, not easily, because first it has to figure out if you're a bureaucrat/admin, and by the time it gets to that point the error might have already occurred. [13:22:21] You can set it by IP address if you really want. [13:22:24] ah [13:22:29] IP works [13:22:59] but hm i don't have write access to the files currently, just read access to the logs [13:23:29] Well, it will be hard to debug if you can't do configuration of the software. [13:23:53] heh i will be able to later today, i'm trying to do what i can now though [13:24:17] What error are people seeing, did you say? Just a white page? [13:24:36] a user to be getting a file (with mime-type application/x-trash) save dialog when accessing the wiki? [13:24:52] Oh, hmm. [13:25:01] That probably indicates a misconfigured web server. [13:25:07] hmm [13:25:13] well some users can view it fine and others can't [13:25:21] What browsers are they using? [13:25:46] so far firefox 2.0 on windows (problem) and firefox 2.0 on linux (no problem) [13:25:57] i might be able to do that line though, one sec [13:26:08] Do you have a link to your site, or is it private? [13:26:31] in testing stages atm [13:26:39] like to keep it private for now [13:27:15] I can see it fine (FF3.0b5/Linux). What page is the error occurring on? [13:27:35] the Main_Page does it [13:27:45] well it's confirmed to, i'm not sure about others [13:27:58] Hmm. [13:29:06] I don't see anything obviously wrong with the headers, like bad Content-Disposition. [13:29:25] Not sure. [13:29:36] ok i added the line [13:29:38] error_reporting(E_ALL); ini_set("display_errors", 1); [13:29:42] 03(mod) Link changes in flagged pages do not update Special: WhatLinksHere - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14014 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [13:29:49] under Simetrical: see anything different? [13:32:50] chelz, probably that will make no difference, given your error. [13:32:58] hmm [13:33:07] yeah i'm really thinking it's a per browser thing [13:33:10] I thought it was a white page. [13:33:17] nope =/ [13:33:20] definitely doesn't seem to be a server thing [13:33:56] 03yaron * r34432 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticDrilldown/specials/SD_BrowseData.php: Drilldown results are sorted by "sortkey" instead of title [13:35:37] 03yaron * r34433 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticDrilldown/ (INSTALL includes/SD_GlobalFunctions.php): New version: 0.4.2 [13:42:50] 03(FIXED) Sorting is not used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13839 +comment (10yaron57) [13:46:20] 03(NEW) Draft box shown, although current revision is sighted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14043 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (Wiki.Melancholie) [13:47:36] 03(mod) Draft box shown, although most current revision is sighted already - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14043 summary (10Wiki.Melancholie) [13:47:36] how do I configure mediawiki to require aproval to accept new users????? [13:47:39] 03(mod) FlaggedRevs caching issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14029 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [13:48:52] levmatta_, look for an extension, such as ConfirmAccount. [13:48:55] !confirmaccount [13:48:55] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "confirmaccount". You might try: !userapproval [13:49:00] !userapproval [13:49:00] --mwbot-- To require approval before accounts can edit, see . Alternatively, remove edit rights from all users, and create a new user group like "approved" with edit rights; a bureaucrat can then assign users to the "approved" group to allow them to edit. For more information about the alternative, see !confirmaccount alias userapproval [13:49:05] --mwbot-- Successfully added alias: confirmaccount [13:49:38] !confirmaccount [13:49:38] --mwbot-- To require approval before accounts can edit, see . Alternatively, remove edit rights from all users, and create a new user group like "approved" with edit rights; a bureaucrat can then assign users to the "approved" group to allow them to edit. For more information about the alternative, see hm, that got cut off [13:50:11] Yeah, it did. [13:50:13] Too long. [13:50:17] also, !access covers this too, no? [13:50:56] Dunno. [13:51:15] thanks [13:52:28] 03(mod) Draft box shown, although most current revision is sighted already - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14043 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [13:52:58] on another note, it seams that the email sending is not working (and for me it is odd that I did not configure a SMTP account, isn't it needed?) [13:53:16] I could not find a log either [13:56:56] anyone? how can I verify if it is sending e-mails and know what is wrong?? [14:00:19] 03(mod) Users can flag a specific revision more than once - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13997 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [14:00:59] 03(NEW) Page counts should not be incremented by pages viewed by bots - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14044 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (corth) [14:03:32] 03(mod) Page counts should not be incremented by pages viewed by bots - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14044 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [14:06:40] levmatta_: mediawiki is assuming the webserver is running an MTA like sendmail or exim. if it does not, you can configure it to use SMTP [14:06:43] !smtp [14:06:43] --mwbot-- See for information about configuring MediaWiki to use SMTP for sending mails, instead of using the sendmail interface. [14:07:00] as to logging, see here: [14:07:03] !debug [14:07:03] --mwbot-- For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [14:08:20] !debug [14:08:20] --mwbot-- For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [14:09:04] 03(mod) Provide other FlaggedRev boxes for the case of a template change, currently resulting in "0 changes need review" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14031 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [14:10:12] ok, thanks. I really have no idea if a am running a MTA like sendmail or exim, I just have a apache2 on Ubuntu (almost no change, I did setup ssl) [14:11:56] I was under the impression that it did the sending by itself (but I did find that strange), since I trying to setup a personal wiki I think that SMTP might be more appropriate [14:14:03] it's easier to set up anyway :) [14:14:42] 03ialex * r34434 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUserrights.php: Fix XHTML error from r34401. [14:14:47] running an MTA is the Right Thing for a "real" web server. but it's a pain to set up, and if all you do is run your personal wiki there, with 5 users or something, smtp will work fine [14:15:50] PHP's build in "mail" function expects a sendmail-compatiable MTA to be running - a reasonable assumption on "real" servers. this is what mediawiki uses per default. [14:17:00] every unix system should have a working mta, or it's broken ;) [14:19:33] ooopps.. thks ialex :) [14:19:41] hehe [14:20:53] 03(mod) Reverting to a flagged revision should automatically mark the resulting revision as flagged , too - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13978 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [14:30:32] 03ialex * r34435 10/trunk/extensions/Makebot/ (Makebot.class.php Makebot.php): [14:30:32] * Remove uneeded extension function, simply define the new log when including the file [14:30:32] * Fixed XHTML errors [14:30:32] * (bug 13876) Special:Makebot states that bots don't have bot status [14:31:50] 03(FIXED) Special:Makebot states that bots don't have bot status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13876 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [14:33:35] Duesentrieb: :/ I found the temporary tables issue... And it's SMW's fault [14:33:45] $db->query('DROP TABLE smw_newcats', 'SMW::getCategoryTable'); [14:33:57] They didn't use TEMPORARY like they are supposed to [14:33:57] >_< [14:34:05] fix it, submit a patch [14:34:10] it's trivial enough [14:34:23] also tell them that any site where the old code works hasa MAJOR security problem :) [14:34:24] I'll track down all the drops and commit it sometime later [14:34:53] hey Dantman :) [14:34:57] ah, if you can, commit it. tell them too, though [14:35:30] And the MySQL manual even has some good points [14:35:47] "The TEMPORARY keyword is ignored in MySQL 4.0" <- There is no compatibility issue [14:36:01] And "Using TEMPORARY is a good way to ensure that you do not accidentally drop a non-TEMPORARY table." [14:36:13] Well time to finish my show first [14:39:47] Dantman|FS: even bein able to drop a non-temp table from a webapp isa nono [14:39:59] Ta [14:40:01] Ya* [14:55:14] TimStarling, why is it that we have our own diff implementation and don't just use diff3? [14:58:49] Simetrical, could you have a short look over my patch for bug 14044? (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14044) [14:58:59] the patch is http://zaphod.leonweber.de/files/14044.patch [14:59:42] think it's ok to commit? [15:00:01] LeonWP, looks reasonable. Is it tested? [15:00:13] yes [15:00:26] works as intended here [15:00:49] I'd check in it. [15:00:51] it in. [15:01:12] ok, I'm commiting then [15:01:21] :-) [15:01:32] 03(NEW) easy to parse IRC feed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14045 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (mnh) [15:01:54] 03leon * r34436 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Article.php): (bug 14044) Don't increment page view counters on views from bot users [15:02:48] 03(FIXED) Page counts should not be incremented by pages viewed by bots - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14044 +comment (10leon) [15:07:56] 03(mod) easy to parse IRC feed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14045 +comment (10leon) [15:08:37] 03(mod) Easy to parse recentchanges feed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14045 summary (10leon) [15:15:57] Simetrical: Because we want and tags and tables and all that fancy stuff? [15:17:00] 03rainman * r34437 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: [15:17:00] Delete mysqlism from message (as people complain on IRC that it doesn't apply [15:17:00] to wikimedia sites). Instead advertise functionality that applies to all [15:17:00] search backends. It might also be nice if we made this message backend [15:17:00] dependent. [15:19:32] RoanKattouw, hmm, maybe. [15:20:00] I assume you're referring to wikidiff2 and not the DifferenceEngine class? [15:21:49] is there a manual\explanation of the new pre-parser DOM? [15:23:54] 03(mod) Link changes in flagged pages do not update Special: WhatLinksHere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14014 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [15:25:59] RoanKattouw, well, obviously we have to have a PHP implementation of some kind, if we want this to work on shared hosting. [15:26:03] So yeah, pretty much. [15:26:52] hi, anyone there? [15:27:11] 03(mod) Allow templates to get flagged; flagging should approve 0-review-needed articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14033 major->15enhancement; high->normal (10JSchulz_4587) [15:27:18] Wiredtape: no [15:27:36] MinuteElectron : shame.. :) [15:27:59] !ask | dcflashgames [15:27:59] --mwbot-- dcflashgames: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [15:28:06] anyone know by any chance if template variables are stored somewhere in there? [15:28:14] I cant figure out how to make it not possible to edit a page but allow posting to the discussion [15:29:16] All the information on the webpage that I am finding to disallow it also say they disallow editing the discussion [15:29:19] dcflashgames, for who? a certain group? [15:29:36] for everyone but a certain group. [15:29:52] ok: so you'll have to program this into the skin.. [15:30:50] no [15:30:59] don't progam it into the skin, that's insecure [15:31:07] check for user groups .. and then query the url they asked for (check for action=edit.. if it is of ns = talk, then show the page content .. if not, then show "you are not allowed to edit this.." [15:31:16] MinuteElectron: is there a better way? [15:31:18] What I am doing is making a flash portal. Obviously I dont want everyone editing the page with a game on it, but I would like to allow them to discuss it. [15:31:19] userCan [15:31:37] dcflashgames, you can protect the page but leave the talk page unprotected. [15:31:49] MinuteElectron : that will afaik disable all ns editing [15:32:02] Wiredtape: no, ti won't [15:32:04] *it [15:32:15] userCan can discriminate based upon namespace [15:32:18] Simetrical: is there a way to do it globally, for all pages? [15:32:56] !namespaceprotect [15:32:56] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "namespaceprotect". [15:32:57] And I want them to be able to edit their own namespace, but not someone elses. [15:32:58] Grr. [15:33:05] !wg namespaceProtection [15:33:05] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgnamespaceProtection [15:33:07] 03leon * r34438 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/messages/MessagesDe.php): German localisation fix: This is a relative clause which needs to be seperated from the main clause by a comma. [15:33:13] MinuteElectron: didn't know that.. good to know (localsettings?) [15:33:17] Bah. [15:33:58] dcflashgames, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgNamespaceProtection [15:34:23] Wiredtape: extension [15:35:01] 03leon * r34439 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesDe.php: Forgot the second comma... [15:35:10] MinuteElectron : which one? [15:36:38] Wiredtape: you make it yourself [15:37:24] MinuteElectron : ahh... :) gotcha... [15:39:08] I still don't understand why putting this in skin is "unsecure" ? [15:41:06] simetrical: thats a fix for the namespace, how do I do the rest of it? [15:41:25] Wiredtape: because people could form requests that bypass it [15:41:33] *sigh* that is flaggedrevision thingie UI is old school... I want more ajax usage! :) [15:41:33] alot of people threw out ideas, bu i dont know how to actually do it ;) [15:41:52] *but [15:41:54] 14(DUP) Draft box shown, although most current revision is sighted already - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14043 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [15:41:56] 03(mod) Provide other FlaggedRev boxes for the case of a template change, currently resulting in "0 changes need review" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14031 (10JSchulz_4587) [15:42:07] dcflashgames, what's "the rest of it"? [15:42:22] Put all the pages you want protected in a single namespace, and protect that namespace. [15:42:22] MinuteElectron: afaik, you could build the same sort of sanitizer in skin as you could in extension.. [15:43:06] oh. [15:43:24] I thought namespaces meant the user pages ;) wow... lol [15:46:21] Wiredtape: Well, you can't -- how would you go about doing it? [15:47:10] 03(mod) Comments in wrong spot in SQL logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14042 +easy; +comment (10seventowers) [15:47:35] *Jack_Phoenix waves to brion :-) [15:47:48] oh, great; this is why I tried to avoid using MediaWiki as a CMS -- the skinning system is appauling. [15:49:05] MinuteElectron : just like you would go about it in an extension.. (however, as for "nice" code and good conventions and more reasons.. it is definitely better in extension) [15:49:13] MediaWiki could use a few new, solid skins IMHO -- something like, say, Wikia's Monaco skin? I've got nothing against Monobook (more like I <3 monobook) but some people like shinier, more JS-based skins :] [15:49:48] Jack_Phoenix: The trouble is how you go about making them skins. [15:49:57] obviously ;-) [15:49:59] Jack_Phoenix: I absolutely agree [15:50:13] *Jack_Phoenix waves to Wiredtape :-) [15:50:13] Jack_Phoenix: There's a reason UI and Logic should not be mixed. [15:50:29] yup yup [15:50:31] Wiredtape: No, you couldn't go about it from within a skin. [15:50:53] more AJAX features would be very cool...the search improvements are really nice \o/ [15:50:59] MonoBook is that reason ;) [15:51:05] 03catrope * r34441 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Database.php): (bug 14042) Calling Database::limitResult() misplaced the comment in the log file [15:51:24] Jack_Phoenix: that's less skin and more background work [15:51:28] 03(FIXED) Comments in wrong spot in SQL logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14042 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [15:52:10] MinuteElectron : I don't get why not? but lets leave the subject.. new skins are more interesting :) [15:53:12] 03aaron * r34442 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: [15:53:12] * Tweak tab bolding (bug 14032) [15:53:12] * Remove horrible duplication!!! [15:53:20] 03(FIXED) Show #ca-current tab letters in bold on edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14032 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [15:53:26] Jack_Phoenix : the main issue with a new skin is considering the navigation for mw.. I really think new templates/new colors won't do the trick alone [15:53:49] good point [15:54:14] 03rotem * r34443 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update. [15:55:17] I defintely think there are some navigation things which could go away.. I was also thinking of allowing a better flash/js nav interface.. combined with php [15:56:13] the hardest part is coding something like that ;-> [15:56:23] Flash interface?! [15:56:28] no no [15:56:35] well.. yes in a sense [15:56:44] *Simetrical scowls ferociously [15:57:06] *Mike_lifeguard shudders [15:57:13] Nothing Flash is going to go into MediaWiki, that's for sure. It's totally proprietary. [15:57:25] Maybe if it works with gnash. [15:57:38] for instance: like youtubes new bubble videos flash nav (seen it?) - the world of articles in a wiki could work very well like that.. [15:57:54] as an extension, maybe [15:58:02] but it seams unsuitable for core inclusion [15:58:09] i'm talking about nav<->flash interface [15:58:14] defintely not core inclusion .. [15:58:17] yes [15:58:25] but it would require a better support system for it in core [15:58:55] what is the meaning of ipb_block_email? [16:00:22] 03(mod) Link changes in flagged pages do not update Special: WhatLinksHere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14014 (10JSchulz_4587) [16:00:26] also, i have an odd bug here: 'view and edit watchlist' link doesn't edit the watchlist. it just loads it normally [16:00:36] Stoping a blocked user from sending emails [16:00:43] flyingparchment: user can't send emails via Special:Emailuser [16:03:32] okay, seems to be that WatchlistEditor::getMode() prefers action to $par [16:06:34] 03river * r34444 10/trunk/phase3/includes/WatchlistEditor.php: [16:06:34] on SJS Web Server with action paths, 'action' is always set. this caused [16:06:34] WatchlistEditor::getMode() to ignore $par when deciding if the user is editing [16:06:34] the watchlist, so it would always consider the action to be view. fix by giving [16:06:34] precedence to $par over action. [16:09:20] Simetrical: Did you finish the "move all subpages of this subpage too" option? [16:12:18] Mike_lifeguard, yes, but it got reverted, wasn't up to scratch. [16:12:21] I'll redo it at some point. [16:12:26] ok, just checking [16:12:33] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=33578 [16:16:14] ok... I have made it so that people cannot edit using $wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['edit'] = false; // 1.5.0 [16:16:14] $wgGroupPermissions['sysop' ]['edit'] = true; // 1.5.0 [16:16:26] dcflashgames is a moron [16:16:34] How do I allow talking? [16:16:43] in the discussions? [16:16:57] and why am I a moron? [16:17:08] dcflashgames, you have to allow 'edit' to be true if you want them to be able to edit. [16:17:18] dcflashgames, and ignore the troll. [16:17:21] Simetrical is a moron [16:17:39] isnt this what you said to do? [16:17:50] dcflashgames, no. You want to set $wgNamespaceProtection to prevent users from editing the specific namespace you want to protect. [16:17:59] someone care to kickban the troll? [16:18:00] Then they'll still be able to edit other namespaces, like the talk namespaces. [16:18:26] Betacommand, maybe flyingparchment. [16:18:38] how? I'm sortof confused by the wiki page. [16:19:14] 03simetrical * r34445 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialMovepage.php: As Brion pointed out, this param is a boolean, and the existing code only works kind of by chance. [16:20:12] Simetrical what is r34445? (i know i can check for myself.. but have no svn here or any tools.. mind telling me?) [16:20:44] you can use viewvc [16:21:27] i know.. but forgot the link.. was it: http://svn.wikimedia.com/viewvc/trunk/... [16:21:34] no [16:21:36] .org [16:21:45] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/ [16:22:12] oops.. .org (of course) - k, thanks [16:22:43] Wiredtape, it's just a trivial little cleanup, a couple of lines. [16:22:46] No functionality change. [16:23:10] k, thx [16:25:36] now we support 3 databases, updaters.inc could do with a cleanup [16:29:09] what version of rsvg is useful for svg rending? [16:29:19] (wondering if upgrading from 2.5.0 would be a good idea) [16:35:58] flyingparchment: ^_^ Don't you mean 4... DatabaseOracle is there to... heh [16:36:02] g'morning flyingparchment, ty for being awesome :) [16:36:08] Dantman|FS: it's unmaintained [16:36:16] meh... it's there... heh [16:36:20] 03raymond * r34446 10/trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Localisation updates German [16:36:21] and almost certainly doesn't work :) [16:36:27] heh [16:36:52] ^_^ Now just wait till someone creates DatabaseFile... heh [16:37:05] that's basically what SQLite is [16:37:17] Is postgres actually maintained? [16:37:35] ^_^ Ya... cept that's sane... I'm talking about someone insane enough to walk through files manually for data [16:37:46] Anybody want to pick up EXIF orientation support for images? (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6672) [16:37:48] Dashiva: actively, and it works well [16:37:54] this one's been nagging me for ages :) prolly not insanely hard [16:39:00] ^_^ I looked... but I'm to far into my sleepy state to understand what to do... heh [16:39:21] i think i'll write a batik server [16:39:28] 03raymond * r34447 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesDe.php MessagesDe_formal.php): Localisation updates German - oops. Thanks to Siebrand :) [16:39:29] mmmmm... [16:39:37] ^_^ Love the idea of a daemon [16:40:58] DatabaseMsSQL... bleh that would be horid [16:41:13] :/ Though some people actually want it [16:41:17] why? lots of people use MW on Windows, and MS SQL is a perfectly good database [16:41:21] (it's actually based on Sybase) [16:41:24] brion would be nice [16:41:53] And I just know there are 2 or 3 other DB system's I'm forgetting [16:42:11] DB2 is the other big one [16:42:18] Heh... DatabaseFirebird? [16:42:58] ^_^ Now for a tangent of insanity caused by sleepyness... [16:43:08] [18:37:34] ^_^ Ya... cept that's sane... I'm talking about someone insane enough to walk through files manually for data <--- flat nuke does it with xml files [16:43:19] heh [16:43:36] DatabasePsyc... ^_^ e-telepethy... We harvest data from human brains!!! heh [16:43:46] lol [16:44:37] ^_^ What... It's Matrix meets Wikimedia... "Harvesting your species in the name of open content!" [16:46:49] !wg NamespaceProtection | dcflashgames [16:46:49] --mwbot-- dcflashgames: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgNamespaceProtection [16:55:37] 03(mod) List type queries treat empty datasets inconsistently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11588 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [16:57:03] 03(NEW) Failed to find the method of mkdir in file */includes/ HTMLFileCache.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14046 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (guoqiang.nie) [17:00:38] 03raymond * r34448 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: Localisation updates German [17:07:29] heyho^^ [17:07:38] so i'm in the middle of importing wiki dump into my wikidb , and its not done yet, and some pages come out all screwed up like i see broken parts of java code [17:07:40] is this normal ? [17:07:44] hi [17:08:26] can someone help me? :D [17:08:42] empty, what is it ? [17:09:34] i have a wiki and i want to include "inline-images" ...someone told me that the wiki must have installed "ImageMap"...i dont know how ^^ [17:10:51] !imagemaps | empty [17:10:51] --mwbot-- empty: I don't know anything about "imagemaps". [17:10:59] ops [17:11:07] ^^ [17:11:07] !imagemap | empty [17:11:07] --mwbot-- empty: ImageMap is an extension that allows you to override the default linking behavior of images. See for more information. [17:12:09] thx [17:12:15] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; does this disable editing for users too? [17:12:29] quick one: what is the interwiki shortcut for wikipedia? I want to use a template from Wikipedia in Mediawiki.org [17:12:37] or just everyone who's not a user/bureaucrat/admin? [17:14:36] jldupon1: [[:en: for en:WP, [[:de: for de:WP, etc... [17:15:24] quick question: is there a hook for Special:Export? [17:15:31] where can i find "extenions" in my wiki?^^ [17:15:41] !extension | empty [17:15:41] --mwbot-- empty: MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See for an overview of known extensions. [17:16:09] thx xD [17:16:17] jldupon1: "w:" for en: .. [17:16:37] don't know about the others.. but you could just check in the interwiki links table [17:16:48] Luxo: thanks. It seems that interwiki transclusion is not enabled though... [17:16:54] and don't forget to turn on scary transclusion [17:17:33] jldupon1: in mediawiki.org? sure [17:17:54] luxo: how come {{en:Template:Resolved}} does not work then? [17:18:25] you need to do wikipeida:Template:Reolved [17:18:27] and [17:18:31] jldupon1: ah you can't include templates from other wikis, that works in no wiki [17:18:37] !wg EnableScaryTransclusion | jldupon1 [17:18:37] --mwbot-- jldupon1: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgEnableScaryTransclusion [17:18:44] Luxo: sure it does [17:19:01] oh, right [17:19:06] we are talking about mediawiki.org [17:19:12] MinuteElectron: scary transclusion isn't enabled - that's what I meant. [17:19:13] bah, you can't jldupon1 [17:19:23] MinuteElectron: thanks! [17:20:56] MinuteElectron: BTW, the link http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgEnableScaryTransclusion does not have a page. [17:20:59] 03shinjiman * r34449 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Old/Late Time Chinese [17:21:12] where would i go to find out if emailconfirmed is in use? [17:30:42] 03nhuffschmid * r34450 10/trunk/wap/ (8 files in 2 dirs): support of french language [17:35:16] 03(NEW) mediawiki install doesn't data base prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14047 04CRIT; normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (bertrand.grondin) [17:36:29] 03(mod) mediawiki install doesn't data base prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14047 normal->high (10bertrand.grondin) [17:53:39] how do I add a system message? [17:53:45] not from an extension [17:53:50] but from within mw core code? [17:54:20] - also, is there a way to check for "latest revision" - again from core code.. [17:58:09] Wiredtape: Add an index to languages/messages/MessagesEn.php and maintenance/messages.inc [18:00:09] MinuteElectron: thanks :) and as for latest revision, do you know? [18:16:43] re [18:18:23] anyone know if I need to pass anything to isCurrent() in revision class? (by the looks of it I don't.. however, how then does mCurrent know what article I am talking about.. ) [18:18:58] Wiredtape: Revision knows what article because revisions are attached to particular articles [18:19:58] hey, anybody have a palm treo? i wanna test a problem report [18:20:03] brion, thanks.. [18:21:48] is there a way (or an option) to get these data order by data? :( http://it.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=xml&list=allimages&aisha1=ee2840241ba789dd6fd2c9692affb30035df9a8d [18:21:54] *by timestamp [18:22:34] hi! [18:22:40] i just installed media wiki [18:23:06] we would like to use the boxes to structure our page - like on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki [18:23:25] Users | System Administrators | Developers [18:23:47] but I can't see how this has been done when I click "view source" on that page. [18:24:22] most likely you will have to copy the templates [18:25:04] how can I access that? [18:25:14] and if those are using some advanced features you will also need the extension called "parserfunctions" [18:25:16] would be lovely if you could help me with that [18:25:35] how to find out which templates they use? [18:26:12] they dont say it in the source [18:26:32] from the src you see that http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Main_page holds the content. [18:27:31] in the src of this you can find the various
-boxes [18:28:01] thats complex :( [18:36:32] are localsettings globals available to Export.php? [18:36:51] *just making sure [18:37:18] copying templates from other mediawikis = sux [18:41:23] 03(mod) Link changes in flagged pages do not update Special: WhatLinksHere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14014 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [18:41:28] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Technical_wishlist [18:41:42] What do anybody think about it? [18:44:03] VasilievVV: that gives a overcrowded list which will be ignored at the end.... [18:44:22] Luxo: we would make stats then [18:44:33] so i'm in the middle of importing wiki dump into my wikidb , and its not done yet, and some pages come out all screwed up like i see broken parts of java code [18:45:04] Вася [18:50:52] 03ialex * r34451 10/trunk/wap/lang/ (8 files in 2 dirs): svn:eol-style native [18:50:56] *Jack_Phoenix waves to ialex :-) [18:51:06] hello Jack_Phoenix :) [18:51:13] rar [18:52:53] hey ialex, Jack_Phoenix :) [18:53:12] 03(mod) Page counts should not be incremented by pages viewed by bots - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14044 (10brion) [18:53:28] hello Wiredtape [18:53:33] *Jack_Phoenix rars at Wiredtape [18:53:44] i'm trying to use the isCurrent() method in the revision class, but am unsure how to call that from Export.php ... anyone have ideas? [18:53:56] should I create a new revision object? [18:54:33] 03(NEW) Special: Export should have an option to export with the sites license - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14048 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (bredtape) [18:56:50] 03(WONTFIX) Allow templates to get flagged; flagging should approve 0-review-needed articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14033 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [18:58:57] Wiredtape: to be efficient in Export.php, you probably want to collection information rev-by-rev as they come along, then when you find you've switched to a different page, you know the last one was the latest for that revision [18:59:13] *for the previous page [19:01:43] brion, wouldn't it be more effecient to just check that current id == page_latest? [19:04:59] oh hey,yeah that'll do [19:05:04] since you should have both those figures :D [19:05:05] ;) [19:05:11] *brion slaps self silly [19:05:57] :) [19:07:13] should image moves leave an entry in the upload history? [19:07:18] *Bryan thinks it should [19:08:54] I should have the ability to call $row->page_latest , no? [19:09:07] Bryan: move log maybe? [19:09:21] Mike_lifeguard: it is in there [19:09:29] oh, k [19:09:39] I mean the log on the image page [19:09:46] the list of old images [19:10:41] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Technical_wishlist [19:10:58] Everybody is welcome to add thet Five Wishes [19:11:08] 03(NEW) Transclude login form in "login required" error messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14049 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User login/settings; (kalan.001) [19:16:11] 03(mod) Special: Export should have an option to export with the sites license - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14048 (10bredtape) [19:18:06] should patched bugs be reassigned to wikibugs-l? [19:18:24] no, if a bug is assigned it means someone is working on it [19:18:28] ok [19:18:45] what if you've "worked" on it, and just want it reviewed.. [19:19:00] +need-review [19:19:49] 03(ASSIGNED) Special: Export should have an option to export with the sites license - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14048 +comment (10bredtape) [19:20:50] 03(FIXED) Special: Export should have an option to export with the sites license - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14048 +need-review (10bredtape) [19:20:59] flyingparchment: thanks [19:22:34] damn filerepo/ICRepo.php is ugly... [19:23:43] it uses regexes to decode xml into an array, while we should have an xml reader on board... but it gets its data from api.php which can output serialized php [19:23:53] 03brion * r34452 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Revert r34428 -- breaks frequently with fatal errors -- no $rev->getTitle() [19:25:10] 04(REOPENED) Change of protection should not unflag a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14040 +comment (10brion) [19:26:53] 03brion * r34453 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Revision.php: [19:26:53] Partial correctness fix; use lazy-loading $this->getTitle() instead of $this->mTitle in Revision::getPrevious() and Revision::getNext(). [19:26:53] This will ensure they work even if the objects were fetched in a way that didn't initialize $this->mTitle... unless they aren't fully saved in the DB, in which case they'll still fail with a fatal error. [19:27:57] hi all, i'm just getting started with mediawiki. i've got the wiki authenticating to our MS AD LDAP directory (via the LDAP Authentication Plugin extension). looking at a wire trace, i can see the wiki requesting the groups the user is in. it says that it adds these groups to $wgGroupPermissions. is there a way to view what $wgGroupPermissions contains? [19:29:58] probably api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=usergroups [19:34:24] uh? $wgGroupPermissions assignes permissions to groups, the auth plugin assignes groups to users. why would the auth plugin put anything into wgGroupPermissions? i don't know much about the LDAP plugin, but this seems strange to me. [19:36:22] 03(mod) Special: Export should have an option to export with the sites license - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14048 +comment (10bredtape) [19:36:44] 04(REOPENED) Special: Export should have an option to export with the sites license - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14048 (10bredtape) [19:37:02] yeah. sorry. not sure either. i'm very new to mediawiki, but picking it up quickly. the wgLDAPGroupsPrevail is where i read that on this page: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication#Syncronizing_LDAP_groups_with_MediaWiki_security_groups [19:37:44] 03(NEW) Do not show #mw-revisiontag-old for latest oldid if revision is flagged - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14050 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (Wiki.Melancholie) [19:37:51] i'm trying to use the GBAC in pages, using LDAP groups that the LDAP user belongs to [19:38:46] 03huji * r34454 10/trunk/extensions/SkinPerPage/ (SkinPerPage.i18n.php SkinPerPage.php): Allowing the extension to show its descriptions on Special:Version [19:41:18] 03huji * r34455 10/trunk/extensions/SkinPerPage/SkinPerPage.php: Definitely, it was meant to be a parserhook :) [19:44:04] looking at the code, it seems that that option adds the LDAP groups as local groups [19:44:09] 03(mod) mediawiki install doesn't data base prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14047 (10brion) [19:44:10] does anyone know how HTML and JS are enabled on WMF wiki? [19:44:34] Why do you need it? [19:45:26] VasilievVV: I'm working on some templates used on WMF, and I need to run them on my wiki first. [19:45:33] 03(mod) Do not show #mw-revisiontag-old for latest oldid if revision is flagged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14050 15enhancement->minor; normal->low (10Wiki.Melancholie) [19:45:36] I'd like to know if they're using $wgRawHtml = True [19:45:49] They are using HTML Tidy [19:46:13] link?' [19:46:49] (it's an extension) [19:47:11] !wg UseTidy | Hojjat [19:47:11] --mwbot-- Hojjat: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseTidy [19:49:08] VasilievVV: nope. Setting that to true (alone) doesn't help. Setting wgUseHTML to true makes my local wiki render the pages like WMF does [19:49:27] Like foundation wiki? [19:50:45] 'wgRawHtml' => array( [19:50:45] 'foundationwiki' => true, [19:50:51] Hello [19:51:11] I have added an question on an discussion page, can someone check my question [19:51:21] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:Simple_Forms#How_can_i_send_the_information_to_my_emailadres.3F [19:51:24] VasilievVV: yes, I mean foundationwiki [19:51:35] what should I call a flag for findFile to not find redirects? [19:51:42] FIND_NOREDIRECT, NOFIND_REDIRECT [19:51:49] FIND_NO_REDIRECT [19:51:50] Bryan: no ideas [19:51:52] Modify it [19:51:57] 03ialex * r34456 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (Configure.body.php Configure.settings.php): Automated section restricting, simply restrict them if no setting is configurable by the user [19:52:06] I want to. I need a good name [19:52:06] FIND_IGNORE_REDIRECT [19:52:06] Or check forr $file->redirected() [19:52:18] sounds nice :) [19:53:01] Someone? [19:55:23] VasilievVV: so any idea? (Because $wgUseHTML alone is not what they're using) [19:55:37] VasilievVV: see here http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Template:PayPalListStart&action=edit [19:55:49] Hojjat: check http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf [19:56:02] VasilievVV: those tags are not interpreted as real tags [19:56:03] Want someone help me with a question? [19:56:26] wtf is wgUseHTML ? [19:56:41] 03(mod) Latest quality revision not linked, only latest sighted one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13975 summary (10Wiki.Melancholie) [19:56:50] is it new? or did you just make it up? [19:56:57] !wg RawHtml | Hojjat [19:56:57] --mwbot-- Hojjat: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgRawHtml [19:57:45] MinuteElectron: that is what I did, but it doesn't have the exact same effect as what we see on foundation wiki [19:58:26] wgUseHTML doesn't exist in the source code :) [19:58:32] MinuteElectron: http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Template:PayPalListStart&action=edit [19:58:46] Hojjat: what do you expect it do do? activating tidy might be related [19:58:51] Duesentrieb: wgUseHTML was my typo, I meant wgRawHTML [19:59:04] Duesentrieb: activating tidy didn't help. Let me exaplain [19:59:10] check the link I just sent to MinuteElectron [19:59:20] there are and tags. [19:59:46] the one, with my settings (wgRawHTML = true) causes the page to end (browser sees the on Foundation wiki, it doesn't [20:00:12] it is like an extension or something is interpretting these and tags differently, before sending them on right to the browser [20:00:20] with wgRawHTML, these tags should be interpreted by the parser, and not be passed through [20:00:38] what extensions do you have installed [20:00:43] actually, if raw html is off, they should not be passed through either, thei should be escaped, [20:01:08] have you tied a page with a *single* ... block? [20:01:33] (oh, and if all else fails, you can always use the HTMLets extension) [20:02:04] MinuteElectron: I have ParserFunctions and SkinPerPage [20:02:27] and a few others that are not related (like CU, etc) [20:04:49] if ( $wgDBname == 'foundationwiki' ) { [20:04:49] include( "$IP/extensions/FormPreloadPostCache/FormPreloadPostCache.php" ); [20:04:49] include( "$IP/extensions/SkinPerPage/SkinPerPage.php" ); [20:04:49] include( "$IP/extensions/skins/Schulenburg/Schulenburg.php" ); [20:04:58] 03brion * r34457 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES config/index.php includes/DefaultSettings.php): [20:04:58] * (bug 14047) Fix regression in installer which hid DB-specific options. [20:04:58] Also makes SQLite path configurable in the installer. [20:04:58] $wgSQLiteDataDir wasn't being initialized in DefaultSettings.php, potentially open to register_globals attacks. Now initialized to '', which gets interpreted as default. [20:05:01] I have the last two. I'm going to add the first too, to see if that hels [20:05:01] Now adding only the options for the relevant DB to the generated LocalSettings.php [20:06:52] 03(NEW) Error message: ~"Specify a revision for marking" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14051 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (Wiki.Melancholie) [20:07:13] 03(FIXED) mediawiki install doesn't data base prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14047 +comment (10brion) [20:08:38] brion: any idea? [20:08:53] /ignore wikibugs [20:09:13] any idea what, Hojjat ? [20:09:46] 03(mod) Error message: ~"specify a revision for marking" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14051 normal->high; summary (10Wiki.Melancholie) [20:10:01] brion: I've truned wgRawHTML on and installed all relevant extensions that are instaleld on Foundation wiki. However, when I bring code from that wiki to my local wiki to work on it, it doesn't work correctly [20:10:37] example? [20:10:44] [and have you tried flipping tidy on/off?] [20:10:46] How to catch all punctuation marks in regex? [20:10:58] brion: tidy doesn't help. http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Template:PayPalListStart&action=edit is the example [20:11:09] VasilievVV: [:punct:] [20:11:20] brion: the thing on it, doesn't pass on to browser in Foundation wiki, but it does, on mine [20:11:27] [[:punct:] ] will work? [20:11:39] (I also need to catch spaces) [20:11:39] Hojjat: url pls [20:12:03] VasilievVV: should do, yes [20:12:11] 03(mod) Error message: ~"specify a revision for marking" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14051 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [20:12:55] brion: http://79.132.197.60:8080/wiki/Template:USD-PayPal [20:14:04] brion: best link: http://79.132.197.60:8080/wiki/Template:PayPalListEnd [20:14:13] 03(mod) Provide other FlaggedRev boxes for the case of a template/ image change, currently resulting in "0 changes need review" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14031 summary (10Wiki.Melancholie) [20:14:27] brion: compared with http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Template:PayPalListEnd [20:15:21] 03btongminh * r34458 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [20:15:21] * Add new flag FIND_IGNORE_REDIRECT to wfFindFile and functions it depends on [20:15:21] * Follow redirects on image pages if the redirect is actually an image redirect [20:15:21] * Add comments to the check for redirect code in MediaWiki::initializeArticle so that I actually understand what it does [20:16:24] or this one: http://79.132.197.60:8080/wiki/Template:PayPalListStart [20:16:42] Hojjat: well, the two lok the same now. not sure what you're changing [20:17:20] brion: the two are the same (per wikicode) but browse them in Firefox, and see how mine gets scrambled [20:17:35] the causes the page to end too soon in my version :( [20:17:45] have you tried purging? [20:17:51] your local cache [20:17:52] they look identical now. i assume you've got a cache issue [20:18:10] oh [20:19:13] purged .. no go [20:19:46] 03(mod) No automatic redirect on image pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13546 +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [20:22:34] 03btongminh * r34459 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Apparently r34458 was reported as bug 13546. Adding to release notes. [20:23:02] are those excessive debug statements in Preprocessor_hash::splitTemplate necessary ? [20:23:15] 14(DUP) Transclude login form in "login required" error messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14049 +comment (10brion) [20:23:18] 03(mod) "Not logged in" page should allow you to log in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10868 +comment (10brion) [20:23:36] 03(mod) "Not logged in" page should allow you to log in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10868 (10brion) [20:25:27] 03(FIXED) User login page shows inappropriate email blurb - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5180 +comment (10brion) [20:26:59] 14(INVALID) Failed to find the method of mkdir in file */includes/ HTMLFileCache.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14046 +comment (10brion) [20:28:37] 03aaron * r34460 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.php): [20:28:37] * Finish reverting form migration. $title shit was breaking everything. [20:28:37] * Get null edit reviewing working (again) [20:32:10] 03(mod) "Not logged in" page should allow you to log in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10868 +comment (10l8qjvx002) [20:35:55] gottta go [20:37:45] 03ialex * r34461 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (CHANGELOG Configure.php Configure.settings.php): Added $wgSQLiteDataDir [20:40:15] 03aaron * r34462 10/trunk/phase3/includes/WatchlistEditor.php: Revert r34444, breaks submissions [20:41:33] 03raymond * r34463 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialSearch.php: Move heading to a more appropriate place, improves navigation for screenreader too. [20:45:40] *Wiredtape says hi to Skizzerz and Splarka [20:45:47] hi [20:46:41] 03river * r34464 10/trunk/imgserv/: new directory [20:49:38] 03(FIXED) Change of protection should not unflag a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14040 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [20:49:40] 03(FIXED) Error message: ~"specify a revision for marking" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14051 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [20:54:07] 03river * r34465 10/trunk/imgserv/ (37 files in 8 dirs): imgserv: a Java-based network-accessible raster and SVG image scaling and transcoding server [20:55:26] 03btongminh * r34466 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (ImagePage.php Wiki.php filerepo/FileRepo.php): [20:55:26] * Move image page redirect checking to ImagePage. Should now also work on foreign repos. [20:55:26] * Changed File::getRedirected to return a DBkey instead of a formatted text [20:56:40] hmm imgserv looks nice [20:57:10] i used Batik for SVG, so it's not fast. but i wanted something easier and more secure than rsvg [20:59:36] 03aaron * r34467 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Consistent tabs (bug 14037) [20:59:57] 03(FIXED) Split up #ca-nstab-main tab into two variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14037 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [21:01:33] it uses the built in java stuff for raster resizing? [21:01:39] for now, yes [21:01:51] should be pretty easy to plug in something like your python png resizer if it was ported to java [21:02:14] it's C now ;) [21:02:22] ah, even easier then [21:02:28] Python was too damn slow for it and I think Java as well [21:03:21] 03huji * r34468 10/trunk/extensions/skins/Schulenburg/main.css: The removed line wasn't needed in LTR layouts, and made it very hard to lay the text correctly in RTL designs. [21:09:03] 03(WONTFIX) Do not show #mw-revisiontag-old for latest oldid if revision is flagged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14050 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [21:09:07] can you reactivate [[Special:BlockMe]] on en-wiki? [21:10:29] AzaTht: no [21:10:44] AzaTht: haha [21:11:01] :-P [21:11:14] 03river * r34469 10/trunk/imgserv/imgserv-client/imgserv.cxx: -p argument was broken [21:13:27] 03river * r34470 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: support imgserv for SVG rasterising [21:14:47] 03river * r34471 10/trunk/imgserv/imgserv-client/imgserv-wrapper: add a wrapper script for changing the imgserv host / port [21:15:33] Bryan: is your thing in svn? [21:15:47] yes [21:15:56] /trunk/pngds [21:16:16] /stupid irc commands [21:16:36] hmm, it should be quite trivial to write a JNI wrapper around that [21:17:10] if you block an IP-range, and enable "watch user" will you then watch all users in that range? [21:18:51] 03aaron * r34472 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: We can make this longer (clearer) now [21:20:14] AzaTht: it probably just won't work right :) [21:21:28] brion: sad [21:21:38] (or good, depending on how you see it) [21:22:37] AzaTht: do you want to add 65000 pages to your watchlist at once? [21:22:58] MrZ-man: that's true [21:24:10] sometimes that would be nice [21:24:41] That sentence should read "Please give us 'watchlist this page and all subpages' I beg you!" [21:25:25] 03btongminh * r34473 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ImagePage.php: So actually Article::followRedirect is used instead of Article::getRedirectTarget. Override this in ImagePage to make foreign image redirects work on image pages. [21:27:34] or please give us [[Special:Contributions/123.45.0.0/16]] [21:30:58] 03(mod) Split up #ca-nstab-main tab into two variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14037 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [21:34:14] 03(mod) Split up #ca-nstab-main tab into two variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14037 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [21:37:29] 03siebrand * r34474 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (53 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-05-08 23:22 CEST) [21:40:55] Bryan: how can i tell if png_resize() failed? [21:41:22] not. it will call png_die() which does an exit() [21:41:25] quite dirty [21:41:28] ack [21:41:33] i guess i'll fix that ;) [21:41:55] could add a custom thing to the callback thing [21:41:57] 03siebrand * r34475 10/trunk/extensions/ (97 files in 96 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-05-08 23:22 CEST) [21:42:40] Splarka: that too! [21:43:40] 03(mod) Split up #ca-nstab-main tab into two variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14037 (10JSchulz_4587) [21:45:04] I'm trying to backport an extension to 1.9, and I'm missing wfLoadExtensionMessages(). Any clues what I should use instead? [21:45:17] you'll have to implement it yourself [21:45:36] you'll need to loop through the messages and use $wgMessageCache->add i think [21:45:49] you'll have to read the documentation for exact details of the message cache method [21:46:07] you'll also have to load fallbacks [21:46:16] ok [21:46:18] or, merge them in, in fact [21:46:45] and you'll need to load 'en' $wgLand->getCode(); and $wgContLang->getCode(); [21:47:02] there shoiuld be some old code for this lying around somewhere in a past revision (if you poke around for it) [21:48:27] Can I just copy the MessageCache::loadMassegaseFile() and substitute $wgMessageCache for $this ? [21:48:39] probably [21:48:47] remember to global $wgMessageCache; first though [21:49:20] Bryan: where does crc32() come from? [21:49:28] from zlib [21:49:32] ah [21:50:33] bye [21:50:40] 03(mod) Split up #ca-nstab-main tab into two variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14037 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [21:51:30] is png_resize meant to write a header? or do i have to do something else? [21:51:59] Hurray, it seems to work. Thanks MinuteElectron. [21:52:19] flyingparchment: png_resize will output a raw RGBA image [21:52:27] hmm [21:52:32] you will need the actual png compression code in pngwrite [21:53:31] ah, i see [21:53:39] i was looking at the PNGRESIZE code, but i want PNGDS [21:53:44] 03aaron * r34476 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: More UI tweaks [21:53:52] 03btongminh * r34477 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/ImagePage.php languages/messages/MessagesEn.php): Show pages that redirect to this image on ImagePage [21:54:20] bear with me, it's my first proper C program :) [21:54:45] ignoring embedded arm devices [21:58:09] hey, it works [21:59:59] 03river * r34478 10/trunk/pngds/jni/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Java JNI wrapper [22:00:13] nice [22:03:12] sleep [22:04:23] 03(NEW) Imagemap's enclose itself in

- 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14052 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ImageMap; (rene.kijewski) [22:05:09] 03(mod) Easy to parse recentchanges feed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14045 +comment (10dungodung) [22:13:53] 03(mod) Link changes in flagged pages do not update Special: WhatLinksHere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14014 major->normal (10JSchulz_4587) [22:14:21] what's with this new "category" table? [22:19:28] 03(mod) ?title=article&stable= 0 should not be the resulting URL after edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14038 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [22:19:29] 03(mod) Make index.php?title=Actinium&stableid= best nice by using mod_rewrite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14001 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [22:37:11] 03siebrand * r34479 10/trunk/extensions/SkinPerPage/SkinPerPage.php: Remove trailing whitespace, add header [22:38:59] 03siebrand * r34480 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for SkinPerPage [22:46:52] 03(NEW) Draft box mentioning "0 changes need review" shows up, although page does not use templates, nor changed images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14053 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (Wiki.Melancholie) [22:51:35] 03(mod) Draft box mentioning "0 changes need review" shows up, although page does not use templates, nor changed images - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14053 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [22:52:03] 03brion * r34481 10/trunk/mwdumper/ (Makefile build/): [22:52:03] Bug 14008 -- build fix (wrong filename in Makefile) [22:52:03] Patch by Chris Ball -- thanks! [22:52:03] Also created the empty build directory; ant seems to create this, but the GCJ makefile doesn't know to. Cleaner to just keep it. [22:52:07] 03(FIXED) makefile fix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14008 +comment (10brion) [22:52:55] 03river * r34482 10/trunk/imgserv/imgserv-server/ (5 files in 3 dirs): support for resizing PNGs using pngds [22:53:26] 03(mod) Draft box mentioning "0 changes need review" shows up, although page does not use templates, nor changed images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14053 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [22:54:58] 03river * r34483 10/trunk/pngds/jni/Makefile: 'make linux' target [23:02:33] 03brion * r34484 10/trunk/mwdumper/src/org/mediawiki/importer/ListFilter.java: [23:02:33] bug 14009 -- accept '_' in list filter input [23:02:33] Patch by Chris Ball [23:02:41] 03(FIXED) Convert _ to space in ListFilter input. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14009 +comment (10brion) [23:06:35] 03(mod) Draft box mentioning "0 changes need review" shows up, although page does not use templates, nor changed images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14053 (10JSchulz_4587) [23:16:49] 03brion * r34485 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Linker.php includes/Title.php): [23:16:49] * (bug 12644) Template list on edit page now sorted on preview [23:16:49] On initial edit, items were sorted by virtue of being pulled from a sorted table, but on preview they were displayed in rough order of use in parsing, which is a bit less legible. [23:16:49] Added Title::compare() static comparator available as a callback for usort(), using it in Linker::formatTemplates(). [23:17:57] 03(FIXED) Template links on article preview page should be in alphanumeric ( alphabetic) order - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12644 +comment (10brion) [23:22:03] 03(mod) Draft box mentioning "0 changes need review" shows up, although page does not use templates, nor changed images - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14053 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [23:29:01] 03(mod) Draft box mentioning "0 changes need review" shows up, although page does not use templates, nor changed images - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14053 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [23:37:22] Articles with quotes or double quotes in title were made and caused no problem in the past. Till some day, the pages are no longer accessable through url wiki/index.php/Title, but only through wiki/index.php?title=Title. When Trying to access an article page through wiki/index.php/Title an non exisiting page is shown and the quote in the title is replaced by a question mark. Does anyone know what happened? [23:38:02] MediaWiki 1.4, now upgraded to 1.6 -> no difference [23:39:29] Plop5: possibly something to do with your web server configuration [23:40:55] newly made pages have question mark instead of quotes and are accessable .. [23:41:49] What's normal? Should a quote in the title normaaly be displayed? [23:42:31] yes [23:42:42] okay thanks [23:42:42] did something change in your web server? [23:43:07] don't think so ,but I'm helping someone else, so I am not sure.. [23:43:35] Bonjour [23:44:00] Hello [23:47:31] 03(FIXED) Separate group for ipblock-exempt on en.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9862 +comment (10brion) [23:47:35] 03(FIXED) Request for New User Group to be created, to create account Requests. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13498 +comment (10brion) [23:51:22] brion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListUsers [23:51:28] that dropdown is getting kind of long [23:51:30] brion: nice [23:51:35] a lot of dead groups there too [23:51:41] :P [23:52:05] 03(mod) Separate group for ipblock-exempt on en.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9862 (10mrzmanwiki) [23:52:07] i just like the ascii art vandalspam in the username list :D [23:52:26] "# ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Essjay deletes legitimate user pages." [23:52:38] "# ! ! ! ! ! FUCK WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW FUCK ! ! ! ! !" [23:52:54] brion: can you remove "developer"/"steward"/"vote admin" [23:52:54] O_O [23:53:00] only meta has stewards anyway [23:53:00] "# ! Homosexual people are gay" <- this one's my fav [23:53:21] ! - JEWISH BOT 1 - ! [23:53:34] ! ! Google Yahoo [23:53:40] but yea, can those null groups be removed :P [23:54:22] I am new at this.. Are bots and spammers kickin in ? [23:54:36] hypothetically we could clean some of the groups up, but i'm a bit lazy atm :) [23:54:39] Plop5: most of those are just dormant garbage ;) [23:54:46] have to tweak around some config w/o breaking it [23:54:57] okay [23:55:35] 03(mod) Request for New User Group to be created, to create account Requests. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13498 +comment (10cbrown1023) [23:57:34] 03(mod) Request for New User Group to be created, to create account Requests. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13498 (10brion) [23:59:07] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AListUsers&username=%E2%96%84 [23:59:28] rofl [23:59:41] 03(mod) Request for New User Group to be created, to create account Requests. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13498 (10cbrown1023)