[00:17:19] I'm changing database IP's but after the change the wiki throws an error about line 780 in User.php; does mediawiki employ some sort of server/db caching? [00:28:56] Anyone know about the innards of global user groups? [00:30:24] 03(mod) Extension data: Optionally include example installation + example usage. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14204 +comment (10nickpj) [00:34:57] and by "the innards" I mean "what I should put in the database to gain access to global user rights interface and whatnot [00:48:02] 03ktchan * r35212 10/trunk/extensions/BoardVote/BoardVote.i18n.php: Remove technical info to make it easier to translate as suggested. [01:07:11] how can i indent two consecutive paragraphs which have a space between them? basically i'd like to get the same effect as using two * characters with using only one, at the beginning [01:11:30] 03simetrical * r35213 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) [01:11:30] Re-commit cleaned-up version of r33565 (move subpages along with page). [01:11:30] * Move subpages checkbox is not shown unless the current page or its talk page actually has subpages. [01:11:30] * Move subpages checkbox is shown if subpages are disabled for the current namespace, provided that the talk page has subpages (but then it has no effect unless the "move talk" box is also checked). [01:11:32] * Unnecessary ampersands expunged, superfluous ternary operators excised. [01:11:34] * Crazy 1=0 query removed. [01:11:36] * Limit of maximum number of pages to move at once added (default 1000). [01:11:45] Mike_lifeguard, I've re-committed a cleaned-up version of the "move subpages" feature. I think it will stick this time, we'll see. [01:11:58] *Mike_lifeguard hopes :) [01:12:01] and thanks [01:12:06] want more restrictive $wgLegalTitleChars [01:12:17] this is an intimidating regex [01:13:05] help [01:13:42] I don't understand the group permissions inheritance from the manual. I gather it that users inherit from * and bureaucrats and sysops inherit from users. Is that right? [01:15:05] * is everyone, so sysops/crats get those things too [01:15:12] my gay host crashed all my sites, can anyone tell me what's going on with them: http://bahaiki.org [01:16:13] t0lk: one or more of your tables may be corrupted [01:16:26] Mike_lifeguard: ok. So e.g. bureaucrats can't e.g. delete pages by default, right? [01:16:30] ok [01:16:48] no. deleting pages is for sysops [01:16:56] you can arbitrarily change that though [01:17:07] k thanks [01:18:15] t0lk: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/check-table.html [01:20:29] is there any mediawiki message override of $wgUploadNavigationUrl ? [01:21:21] thank you nakon [01:34:14] help [01:34:20] want more restrictive $wgLegalTitleChars [01:34:29] this is an intimidating regex [02:15:18] in which file are rc irc posts generated? [02:16:24] is it possible to use phpShell to restore a db? [02:39:52] anybody here familiar with includes/SpecialUserlogin.php? [02:40:34] I'm trying to edit it (I know, I know, bad practice) but even something simple like adding a variable makes the Special:Userlogin page not work [02:47:31] most likely you forgot a ; or some bracket [02:47:48] ..maybe [02:51:46] yup, was that. my code's still not doing exactly whta I want, but at least it has correct syntax and is not crashing the page. :) [02:51:56] thanks [02:53:05] you're welcome [02:57:25] hello, I have (another) question about mediawiki. [02:58:15] davidknippers: what's your question? [02:58:48] well, it's about image uploading. i can't seem to get the thumbnails to update after I replace an older image with a new one [02:59:31] http://shop1.chem.ucalgary.ca:6400/mediawiki/index.php/Image:105constrained.png <<---- this is still showing the old version of the image, but clicking the full resolution image gives the most recent [03:00:16] i feared it was browser cache/cookie related [03:00:35] well, hoped anyway [03:01:03] but after clearing cache/cookies, logging out and back in, it won't change [03:16:41] i think i understand now... it's displaying the 800px- thumbnail, which I think hasn't been updated by mediawiki. do I need to wait for the thumbnails to regenerate? [03:17:21] usually it should regenerate those after uploading [03:17:43] :( [03:17:59] server misconfiguration? [03:18:25] check the rights of that thumbnail [03:19:16] -rw-r--r-- wwwrun www 49195 2008-05-22 20:49 105constrained.png [03:19:39] looks ok, but what about the thumbnail? [03:20:15] whoops [03:21:02] -rw-r--r-- 1 wwwrun www 64503 2008-05-22 15:25 800px-105constrained.png [03:21:11] hm [03:21:27] ok, so the problem seems to be elsewhere [03:22:01] did you try to add &action=purge after the page title? [03:22:56] Image:105constrained.png&action=purge does not exist [03:23:29] you might have to click the edit link and then replace the action there [03:23:57] i'm sorry, I didn't quite follow. [03:24:48] http://shop1.chem.ucalgary.ca:6400/mediawiki/index.php?title=Image:105constrained.png&action=purge [03:25:25] nope... [03:26:12] if you upload the image another time is the thumbnail regenerated then? [03:26:20] i'll give it a try [03:26:41] Depends on the job queue [03:26:51] Should not take long on a small wiki [03:26:57] Soxred93: job queue seems to be stuck at 600 [03:27:02] Hmm. [03:27:25] Soxred93: as the jobque's design is quite broken it might take very long on a wiki with few visitors. [03:27:33] Yeah. [03:27:36] try manually clearing the queue: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Job_queue [03:27:48] reuploading didn't work [03:28:00] nakon: was that directed at me? [03:28:06] davidknippers: jobque is your problem [03:28:14] 03(mod) Change autoconfirmed settings on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14191 +comment (10thedukeofwaltham) [03:28:31] davidknippers: yes, try running maintenance/runJobs.php from a command line [03:28:37] ok [03:28:45] it's sceduledto be regenerated, but a job is only delt with about each 10 pagerenderings. [03:30:11] should that be run as root, or should my user account be able to do that? [03:30:16] btw. are there plans to improve the job queue? like optional cron job? [03:30:20] 03(mod) Change autoconfirmed settings on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14191 (10thedukeofwaltham) [03:30:47] jamasi: dunno, it would be trivial to set up a cron job manually [03:31:04] if my useraccount can run it, it changed nothing. lemme try resetting my cache once more... [03:31:11] one might only need more docs then [03:31:26] http://shop1.chem.ucalgary.ca:6400/mediawiki/index.php/Special:Statistics still lists your queue at 600 [03:31:53] see here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Job_queue#Let_me_see_if_I_have_this_right [03:32:31] ...ill try as root? [03:32:52] an alternative might be to evaluate the average pagehits per minute and it it's low enough then to process some jobs. [03:38:05] Error creating thumbnail: convert: unable to open image `/srv/www/htdocs/mediawiki/uploads/9/9f/105constrained.png': No such file or directory. [03:38:06] convert: unable to open file `/srv/www/htdocs/mediawiki/uploads/9/9f/105constrained.png'. [03:38:06] convert: missing an image filename `/srv/www/htdocs/mediawiki/uploads/thumb/9/9f/105constrained.png/800px-105constrained.png'. [03:38:14] now it's really gone :p [03:38:28] yeah i broke it accidently by playing with localsettings [03:38:32] it's back up now... [03:38:50] whoa i really broke it... one moment [03:40:15] k... well, still no change. i've run runJobs.php as both regular and root user. [03:40:58] help [03:41:01] want more restrictive $wgLegalTitleChars [03:41:04] this is an intimidating regex [03:42:15] what kind of restrictions? [03:42:26] um, just about everything [03:42:42] i guess a hyphen is okay, digits [03:43:03] not sure if i care for backslash but of course fwd slash is for subpages, that's okay [03:43:24] i especially don't want funny chars - accents, foreign letters [03:43:46] and i see that in the docs, they specifically note potential problems with +, for example [03:43:50] and then enable it anyway [03:44:05] there are a few they specifically call out as trouble -- then permit [03:44:09] dunno why [03:44:49] if you have to use unicode to specify it, i don't want it for sure [03:45:23] basically, good identifier names in most programming languages, plus a few that are in common use in english words [03:45:37] anything else is playing with fire [03:46:05] even if LAMP and MW parses it okay, somebody else, someday, will copy the page and munge it in some cauldron of his own [03:46:25] anyway, this regex has got me stumped [03:46:30] found some errors in postgres logs [03:46:45] won't work in online regex parsers -- tried two [03:47:49] hmm.. it seems that postgresql is taking issue with uploading replacement images [03:50:35] i guess a dot . could come in handy in some unusual circumstance [03:50:44] parens (), that's okay [03:51:09] 2008-05-22 20:34:15 MDT wikidb wikiuser ERROR: duplicate key violates unique constraint "image_pkey" [03:51:24] 2008-05-22 20:34:15 MDT wikidb wikiuser STATEMENT: INSERT /* Image::recordUpload David */ INTO image (img_name,img_size,img_width,img_height,img_bits,img_media_type,img_major_mime,img_minor_mime,img_timestamp,img_description,img_user,img_user_text,img_metadata) [03:51:32] VALUES ('105constrained.png','47856','1000','700','16','BITMAP','image','png','2008-05-23 02:34:15 GMT','','1','David','0') [03:51:41] i'll take it done for me -- but to tell the truth, i'd rather get some education on it, too [03:51:53] this happens for all files ive uploaded a second (or third, or fourth) time [03:51:53] it's beyond my level [03:53:22] seems backwards to me to say "legal chars" [03:53:36] or maybe not, dunno [03:54:01] seems more intuitive to say, "illegal chars" and list them or state ranges [04:03:16] how can i restore a large sql file? [04:14:28] deleting and reuploading doesn't work, either. what, if any, action should i take next? [04:14:42] uploading the file with a different name works. [04:18:44] t0lk: #mysql might be able to assist you better [04:18:56] thanks [04:46:15] Can you take a look at these: http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Special:Deadendpages both articles in it, have links and so on. I can't figure out why they are listed there. It's been days, and I've asked people at the wiki about it, they can't figure it out either. [04:54:13] Hi [04:54:32] I'm having trouble getting Template:USERNAME to work on http://talkshoe.wikia.com Any suggestions? [04:56:12] arrrr, that damn thing needs to die someday [04:56:23] I wrote it as a damn joke for Uncyclopedia [04:57:58] Splarka: Can you help me? [04:58:11] Splarka: I'm using copied code from Uncyclopedia and it only works on the Monobook skin [04:58:22] did you copy over the javascript? [04:58:29] No. It's an exact copy [04:58:40] How can I get it so that {{USERNAME}} will work on Monaco and Quartz [04:59:20] well, what did you copy exactly? [05:02:59] hmm, should work, if those skins load common.js, if not, blame wikia [05:03:57] It is in MediaWiki:Common.js [05:04:15] http://talkshoe.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js [05:05:38] yes, so it should work, unless those skins don't load it [05:06:13] getting any JS errors? [05:06:47] No [05:06:50] No JS errors [05:12:28] Anyone know about deadend pages? I asked above, but got no replies. [05:16:56] RobJ1981: A deadend page is a page without any wikilinks [05:21:59] I know. But I've looked, the articles in deadend have links and seem fine. [05:26:07] Hi, are there any interfaces for mediawiki in other languages like python or java? [05:26:26] RobJ1981: It's probally a previous cache, wait till Tommorow for a new list [05:27:18] I don't think that's the issue. Those 2 articles have been in deadend for days... and never leave it. [05:27:58] or a REST interface? anything so I dont have to work with PHP [05:31:21] Toti1: pywikipedia? [05:32:53] let me see what it does [05:36:39] 03(FIXED) Add category namespace to $wgNamespacesWithSubpages on mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12909 +comment (10jeluf) [05:38:30] 03(mod) Activate SubPageList3 extension on English Wikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13163 -shell +need-review (10jeluf) [05:39:52] 03(mod) Enable Password Reset extension on Wikimedia private wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13177 -shell +need-review (10jeluf) [05:48:28] 03(FIXED) Restrict uploads on la.wikipedia to sysops only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13190 +comment (10jeluf) [05:50:30] 03(FIXED) Enable subpages on Lithuanian Wiktionary category namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13193 +comment (10jeluf) [05:51:22] 03(mod) Install CrosswikiBlock extension on Wikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13212 -shell +need-review (10jeluf) [05:55:46] ok stupid question [05:55:59] where exactly does one upload files in media wiki? [05:57:57] hey do you know how one uploads files in media wiki? [05:58:48] !upload [05:58:48] --mwbot-- File uploads are an often-used feature of MediaWiki, but are disabled by default in all current release versions. To enable them, first make the upload directory (default images) writable by PHP, then set $wgEnableUploads to true in LocalSettings.php (i.e. "$wgEnableUploads = true;"). See for more info. [06:00:08] 03(FIXED) Add the 'Portal' namespace and a related ' =?UTF-8?Q?Descusi=C3=B3n=20Portal?=' namespace to the Aragonese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13215 +comment (10jeluf) [06:01:16] ah [06:01:17] fun [06:03:45] 03(FIXED) Request Portal Namespace - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13221 +comment (10jeluf) [06:04:17] so heres a question do i need to add the line $wgenableuploads = true; or should it already be there/ [06:04:27] yeah its hard typed i know that i'm just lazy [06:04:50] nm found the line [06:06:37] remind me to ask the bot first next time [06:06:39] hheh [06:06:54] 03(FIXED) Create I alias for Project namespace on Incubator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13231 +comment (10jeluf) [06:08:39] 03(FIXED) Spanish Wikipedia: semiprotection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13261 +comment (10jeluf) [06:13:27] I'm trying to installa nd it is saying the db connection is faling. I can connect to it as root using mysql command line [06:13:44] I have root password and I clicked "use superuser account" [06:13:59] and it says "connection failed" [06:14:14] I can "mysql -h localhost -u root -p" and type in the password and connect [06:15:50] oh, it's trying to connect via /var/mysql//mysql.sock.. and that's not where it is [06:16:26] can I get it to connect tcp? [06:17:09] it's in /tmp/mysql.sock [06:26:40] I made a symlink.. icky [06:26:43] but it worked [06:31:54] is this fixed: 24 PHP Strict Standards: Only variables should be passed by reference in /var/www/w/includes/Revision.php on line 564 [06:34:14] Hi [06:36:36] hmm [06:36:40] AaronSchulz: having a bad day? [06:43:50] well thanks [06:43:58] peace outside [06:57:02] 03siebrand * r35214 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesAf.php: Localisation updates. 15 messages imported from af.wp. [06:57:26] 03(mod) activate import pages on el.wikt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14232 +shell; +comment (10raimond.spekking) [07:11:34] 03siebrand * r35215 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesSq.php: Localisation updates. Some messages imported from af.wp. Removed Wikimedia specific messages. [07:14:23] PHP Strict Standards: Only variables should be passed by reference in /var/www/w/includes/Revision.php on line 564 [07:14:32] siebrand: I spammed that already :) [07:14:41] Nikerabbit: ah :) [07:21:04] 03nikerabbit * r35216 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Revision.php: * PHP Strict Standards: Only variables should be passed by reference in <> [07:21:07] siebrand: and fixed [07:21:13] wee [07:27:15] 03siebrand * r35217 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (150 files): Localisation updates. Rebuilt all language files. [07:28:07] i want to show e.g. the 5 first wantedpages on the mainpage - i'm sure there is tutorial on the web how to do this, but i don't find it [07:28:20] 03siebrand * r35218 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesMn.php MessagesSu.php): Localisation updates. Rebuilt all language files. [07:28:35] siebrand: ?? [07:28:41] Nikerabbit: ?? [07:29:13] siebrand: what's the thing with two after big commit? [07:29:27] Nikerabbit: TortoiseSVN missed 2 somehow... [07:30:54] or maybe it was the newline convertor. Yep, that must be it [07:33:48] 03aaron * r35219 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Revision.php: Remove shitty ass useless fucking ampersands that just make it harder to avoid fucking strict notices [07:53:52] I need to run a function only once when a server running mediawiki starts up, which file should i place it in [07:59:13] is it possible to link straight from the Contents to a page inside the wiki ? [08:16:06] <_wooz> lo [08:19:24] hello everybody [08:25:15] How can I customise the access key "MediaWiki:Accesskey-search" on Wikipedia? [08:28:31] av16ar: just edit the page? [08:29:14] Kinerabbit> no, I would like to customise it for my personal usage, I'm not an admin [08:30:02] Nikerabbit> I think I have to add something to my monobook.js [08:32:29] Nikerabbit> I found this "ta['search'] = new Array('+','Search this wiki');" [08:37:07] hello everyone. Im fumbling a bit trying to get the Semantic MediaWiki extension working. Are there people here that have experience with that one in particular? [08:39:41] Files are extracted, settings edited, but when I activate the "enableSemantics" setting in LocalSettings - all pages on the Wiki goes blank with status 500. [08:40:39] DiCeR: 500 indicates an internal server error. look into apache's error log, it should have details. [08:40:46] anyway - SMW mailing lists are here: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=147937 [08:54:36] 03tstarling * r35220 10/trunk/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php: Clarify behaviour of wfGetDB(DB_SLAVE) [09:00:44] 03tstarling * r35221 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: Fixed sloppy usage of Database::selectField() in getPreviousRevisionID() and getNextRevisionID() [09:04:02] 03tstarling * r35222 10/trunk/ (11 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) [09:04:02] In FlaggedRevs: [09:04:02] * Moved the FlaggedRevs class to its own file [09:04:02] * Removed $wgFlaggedArticle, store an instance inside the Article object instead. Also store a reference in the Title object, since some hooks only have a Title available. [09:04:02] * Modified all hooks which were previously calling $wgFlaggedArticle directly to go via an instance loader function. [09:04:07] * Merged hook functions for ArticleViewHeader and DiffViewHeader [09:04:09] * Changed the way FlaggedRevs sets the right image version in ImagePage, to avoid a function call on startup [09:07:51] Hi Everyone [09:08:33] hello [09:10:03] I'm a bit new to media wiki [09:10:12] i see that 1.12 has just bee released [09:10:21] bee= been [09:10:45] but as I'm just starting out would 1.11.X be more stable and secure? [09:10:51] no. [09:11:10] so 1.12 is as secure as 1.11.x? [09:11:16] more so [09:11:18] why would you think otherwise? [09:11:41] in the past with forum software new releases tend to have security holes [09:11:44] well, arguable, 1.12 has new features, which have not been tested as long as the ones in 1.11. [09:11:49] which are then fixed in point releases [09:12:05] so 1.12 is an extension to the code [09:12:10] this isn't phpBB.. we don't have a new arbitrary code execution vulnerability on every release [09:12:13] so... maybe tthe chance of undiscovered bugs is higher. but i don't think there's really much of a difference wrt that [09:12:22] not a completely new code base (and therefore potencially has security holes) [09:12:51] i see [09:13:09] good to hear that the code has been developed in a better way that phpBB ;) [09:13:17] Fut: before a version of mediawiki is released, wikipedia has been running it for a couple of months. so the more obvious issues are likely to have been worked out. [09:13:29] fantastic [09:13:41] very impressed [09:14:11] no guarantee, of course. bad things *have* been discovered in the past. [09:14:34] i completely understand [09:14:51] does v1.12 have built in anti robot functionality? [09:15:04] i.e the ability to turn on a capture or something similar? [09:15:20] there's an extension for that [09:15:21] confirmedit [09:15:24] !spam [09:15:24] --mwbot-- For information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see and . [09:15:36] Its human-generated software, can any guarantees ever be made? :) [09:15:59] DiCeR: only in terms of "if it breaks we'll pay up" [09:16:28] Many thanks for your help [09:16:34] I'll get installing it right now :) [09:18:16] hm... on a related note... shouldn't 1.13 be forked soonish? [09:18:38] i asked that a few weeks ago, apparently not. [09:18:43] i think there's a thread about that on wikitech-l [09:19:09] waybe the revision tagging stuff is supposed to stabalize a bit [09:19:21] i thought that was an extension [09:19:41] it *should* be core, but probably not for a while (maybe 1.14? ^_^) [09:19:54] *DiCeR scratches his head. "Every time I load Special:Version - the error.log grows with 2K.. " [09:20:03] i don't think it has been 3 months yet, and currently even though we are meant to release every 3 months we are currenty releasing every 6 months. [09:20:08] i think it's both or nither. the ability to tag extensions is in code, but the concrete application of "sighting" is an extension [09:20:16] but i havn't looked, i could be complety off [09:20:20] would be the sane thing to do, imho [09:20:34] Splarka: Are you kidding? [09:20:40] only a bit [09:20:54] That's rediculous... [09:21:03] but ask Aaron how much smoother and easier it would be as core feature, instead of extension [09:21:45] hey, just because it would be core wouldn't mean it has to be used... like patrolled edits or image uploads... [09:21:50] s/would/could [09:21:52] "easier" I can agree with, but "smoother" not so much [09:22:12] "smoother" as in not having to rely on so many hooks [09:22:33] I'd like my extensions incorporated into core then, it'd be a lot smoother and easier. [09:22:44] {{sofixit}} [09:23:35] But that's the whole point of extensions, to be optional; why should FlaggedRevs be any different. I agree it is optional when you have a on\off switch, but you could say that about anything. [09:24:05] actually, the point of extensions is not adding absolutely everything to the core code [09:24:12] yes [09:24:13] if it was just a question of being optional, a config option would work fine [09:24:32] sure, but if a feature is useful enough to merit it... [09:24:53] like newuserlog (wtf is that not core??) [09:25:01] +1 [09:26:51] blargh. [09:36:55] 03werdna * r35223 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/ (CentralAuth.i18n.php SpecialGlobalGroupMembership.php): [09:36:55] Fix bugs in Special:GlobalGroupMembership: [09:36:55] * Couldn't actually save group membership, with an error message. [09:36:55] * Selected wiki was not displayed as the default value in the combo-box. [09:47:03] When upgrading (from 1.7 to 1.12), there's a step "Replace all existing files with the new versions from 1.12, preserving the directory structure." I presume I do this by %tar zxvf mediawiki-1.12.0.tar.gz , but what directory do I do it in? [09:50:57] How can one contribute to documenting mediawiki functions? writing extensions could be a lot faster if the docs were more clear. [09:51:42] mediawiki.org is a project aimed at documenting the software and extensions [09:52:23] (with several large chunks under public domain) [09:56:13] If I'm upgrading, do I just copy the contents of mediawiki-1.12.0.tar.gz over /usr/share/mediawiki1.7 ? [09:56:32] /usr/share? sounds like you're using a distribution package [09:56:43] in which case, no, definitely do not try to modify that packaged software [09:57:05] I think I installed 1.7 from a tarball a long time ago. [09:57:13] are you using debian? [09:57:26] yeah. I'll check to see how I installed it. [09:57:56] DCC SEND "KEYLOGGER" 0 0 0 [09:58:24] Thanks MinuteElectron :) [09:59:05] TheLetterE: pardon? [09:59:42] does that even work anymore... [10:00:01] i'm sure it does, most people are incredibly lax about security updates (or don't even know they exist) [10:00:04] Splarka: If you have an old enough router. [10:00:37] Splarka, yeah, see #wikipedia [10:00:42] what does "ta" means in the MediaWiki code, "tooltip array"? [10:00:58] tsk [10:01:46] flyingparchment, you're right. I installed it as a debian package. I'll follow the appropriate docs to upgrade. [10:02:04] foobear: recommend removing the package, doing a normal installation [10:03:00] flyingparchment, will do. [10:05:02] 03(NEW) No images show up on wikimedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14233 major; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (lemuelf) [10:08:52] Werdna: thanks for rapid reply! [10:11:18] Hojjat: you're here! [10:11:23] why didn't you ask here, you silly sausage ;P [10:11:25] I just arrived [10:11:48] sausage! Is it obvious inside IRC that I'm so thin! [10:12:32] so, you didn't reply to the new question dude [10:13:35] *Hojjat bugs Werdna [10:13:38] thanks flyingparchment and all. Will work on my setup after sleeping. [10:15:58] Splarka: I'm talking about the machine generated docs for mediawiki for the classes and functions, is there a way for a lowly earthling like I who doesn't have svn access to document them [10:16:33] *like me* [10:17:09] "bug werdna" [10:19:12] Werdna doesn't talk to sausages very often! [10:20:41] 03(mod) activate import pages on el.wikt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14232 (10y777) [10:20:59] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiGRpm6Tf3I saaaaaaaausages [10:22:51] hello everyone [10:23:18] i have a question [10:23:42] oh really? [10:24:28] there is an image at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Da_Vinci_Studies_of_Embryos_Luc_Viatour.jpg [10:24:47] its size is 408 by 600 pixels [10:25:00] i want to see it, say 100 by whatever [10:25:12] what url should i enter in the browser? [10:25:45] nothing specific about the image, i just wnat to see how resizing works [10:25:53] umarsheikh: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Da_Vinci_Studies_of_Embryos_Luc_Viatour.jpg/100px-Da_Vinci_Studies_of_Embryos_Luc_Viatour.jpg [10:26:06] umarsheikh: that works on wikipedia because it automatically generated missing thumbnails of the right size [10:26:13] (it wouldn't work on a normal MW) [10:26:15] but that url only works because the thumbnail was created by adding it to a page [10:26:28] it does? though a 404 handler? [10:26:29] Duesentrieb: lies! [10:26:32] actually, they generate on demand on wmf [10:26:33] yes, 404 handler calls thumb.php [10:26:41] heh, didn't know that :) [10:26:49] interesting. [10:26:52] anyway, time for lunch [10:27:07] http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/thumb.php?w=100&f=Da_Vinci_Studies_of_Embryos_Luc_Viatour.jpg [10:27:47] using thumb.php directly has advantages: you don't need to know the filepath for example, but disadvantages: doesn't resolve commons images on other projects [10:28:03] thanks so much! [10:28:25] you can also use Special:Filepath, eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Filepath/Image:Da_Vinci_Studies_of_Embryos_Luc_Viatour.jpg but that only returns the full size [10:28:39] (and does a 30x http redirect to the filepath) [10:28:58] i thought the code in the IMage.php, or may be in the includes/media folder was doing this magic [10:29:25] [[Help:$wgLegalTitleChars]] [10:29:36] flyingparchment: /scriptpath/thumb.php should work on all newish installs of mw though, right? [10:29:42] i think so [10:34:22] whee, big commit [10:34:36] 03werdna * r35224 10/trunk/phase3/ (10 files in 3 dirs): [10:34:36] Core changes for GlobalBlocking and TorBlock extensions, plus some core refactoring work: [10:34:36] * Instead of saying 'do that' in a permissions error, actually list what the action is (drawn from the right-$1 messages). This isn't perfect - it says you don't have permission to edit pages when [10:34:36] you can't edit a single page, but it's better than 'do that'. [10:34:38] * Refactor out some code from various block files into Block::formatExpiry and Block::parseExpiryInput. [10:34:40] * Don't display 'you cannot edit special pages' when you're trying to execute, or create an account, or something like that. [10:34:43] * New AbortAutoblock hook (for use in TorBlock extension), which allows extensions to cancel autoblocks. [10:40:14] 03(mod) No images show up on wikimedia sites (accessing from Dubai) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14233 summary (10lemuelf) [10:41:12] 03siebrand * r35225 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesCv.php MessagesLn.php): Localisation updates. Messages imported from cv.wp and ln.wp [10:45:41] [[Help:$wgLegalTitleChars]] [10:47:28] !wg LegalTitleChars [10:47:28] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgLegalTitleChars [10:47:38] what you were after? [10:47:50] impenetrable regex, to me [10:48:10] don't want all that stuff allowed [10:48:12] what are you trying to do? [10:48:38] well to start, exclude all the stuff that the man page specifically says are risky [10:48:56] is there a particular problem you're having? [10:49:00] any accented chars, hi-ascii, foreign language chars [10:49:24] i cannot understand the regex and it doesn't perform in online regex testers [10:49:36] what problem are you having, though? [10:50:02] i cannot rewrite this to forbid chars i feel are unnecessary in page titles [10:50:20] yes, that's correct. [10:50:29] ????? [10:50:34] no, that's not correct [10:50:52] i'm setting up a wiki [10:50:53] it is correct that that variable is not what you should use to achieve what you're saying you need to achieve. [10:51:00] ! [10:51:31] what is the tool? [10:55:08] i don't see a "see also" to anything else [10:56:09]