[00:04:58] 03(mod) Create approved wikis (May 2008): Wikinews Czech, Wikipedia Fiji Hindi & Karakalpak & Moksha & Sakha & Silesian & Sranan Tongo , Wikisource Limburgish, Wikiversity Czech & Portuguese - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14252 +comment (10siebrand) [00:05:17] there has got to be a cleaner looking {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}} [00:05:30] 03(mod) Change autoconfirmed settings on enwiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14191 (10thedukeofwaltham) [00:16:00] 03(mod) Create approved wikis (May 2008): Wikinews Czech, Wikipedia Fiji Hindi & Karakalpak & Moksha & Sakha & Silesian & Sranan Tongo , Wikisource Limburgish, Wikiversity Czech & Portuguese - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14252 (10lugusto) [00:24:53] 03aaron * r35302 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: [00:24:53] * Improve diff include change list for $wgUseStableTemplates and $wgUseStableImages [00:24:53] * Cache diff include change list [00:31:43] 03aaron * r35303 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Rename 'hiderevision' to 'suppressrevision' [00:32:20] 03aaron * r35304 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Tweak comment [00:39:57] where is user (talk) namespace being set/overriden? i mean default is User, but we have Wikipedian. is it on the same base as $wgMetaNamespace? [00:40:22] JeLuF: here? [00:41:23] 03aaron * r35305 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: [00:41:23] *Tweak diff include cache [00:41:23] *Forgot getDB() call [00:43:59] Is there a way to turn of caching? I have a home made template which pulls data from an external source. I need the page refreshed each time it loads. Thanks. [01:04:22] <^demon> I just added a new namespace and ran namespaceDupes.php to clean it up, but none of the entries in the page table have the new namespace IDs, so they obviously didn't move. Is there something I've missed? [01:05:19] Did the new namespace shadow the existing articles before you ran dupes? [01:06:13] <^demon> What do you mean by that? [01:07:59] If you have a page called Animal:Cat (in the main ns) and later add an Animal ns, the article Animal:Cat is shadowed by the article Cat in the Animal ns (even if the Cat article doesn't exist) [01:08:29] <^demon> I fixed it, I think. I didn't run namespaceDupes with the --fix parameter. [01:08:37] hehe [01:08:59] <^demon> Didn't know there was such a thing. [01:13:15] Is there a quick and easy way to get a page id? [01:13:33] I thought that maybe I could use ?action=curid but that isn't working [01:13:57] <^demon> From the API or from the user side? [01:15:37] from the user side [01:16:20] <^demon> Hmm, not sure. [01:16:27] <^demon> API is easy, for what it's worth. [01:16:39] how with the api then? [01:17:25] <^demon> /api.php?action=query&prop=info&titles=Whatever_page [01:17:42] thanks [01:17:46] <^demon> np. [01:20:20] hello. how do I add a subtitle to all pages, similar to "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"? I added a value to $wgExtraSubtitle under localsettings but didn't help [01:20:46] <^demon> [[MediaWiki:Tagline]] [01:21:45] hmmm it's there but doesn't show up on the site... [01:22:21] do i put it on the skin perhaps? [01:22:33] <^demon> No. Try purging your cache? [01:22:49] DanielTahar: Look in the source code to see if it's there. Maybe it's being hidden by CSS. [01:25:04] yup, it's there, under bodycontent / sitesub... but can't figure out why you don't see it (can't search for it on the page, either). [01:26:13] Could you link us to the page? [01:27:11] naa sorry... i figure the CSS is coming from Common.css, no? lemme see, because I pretty much cleared up all of common.css [01:29:28] no biggie, the "retrieved from" doesn't show up either. will survive i believe [01:29:28] DanielTahar: add this to [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]: #siteSub { display: block; } [01:30:29] no go [01:31:49] Do any of you guys provide, or know of someone, who provide wiki consulting? [02:05:10] 03skizzerz * r35306 10/trunk/extensions/AuthorProtect/ (AuthorProtect.i18n.php AuthorProtect.php): [02:05:10] *Fix for AuthorProtect extension so it actually works (aka parses expiry times correctly, actually can unprotect, etc.) [02:05:10] *Changed i18n message in AuthorProtect extension to be more ambiguous [02:07:15] can you change the format of magic words? [02:10:13] 03brion * r35307 10/trunk/wap/ (README image.php): + 2008-05-25: Transparent PNGs now flattened on white BG instead of black [02:10:45] *Werdna pounces on nonexistent brion [02:12:14] 03aaron * r35308 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.class.php: No need to review NS_MEDIAWIKI [02:12:20] Wernda: I like how he always lurks on weekends [02:12:35] indeed. [02:16:44] 03aaron * r35309 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/RequestAccount_body.php: No need to double-escape here [02:17:00] 03brion * r35310 10/trunk/wap/image.php: imagefill() doesn't work on live server for some mysterious reason... but imagefilledrectangle() does :D [02:33:19] Werdna: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_7030_Stretch [02:33:52] AaronSchulz: what about it? [02:34:03] just seems fun :) [02:34:18] *AaronSchulz loves huge slow boxen [02:46:26] CIA down? [02:46:53] I downloaded the oversight extension, ran the sql, included it in localsettings.php and added the groups, then when I clicked on the hide revision tab, it says invalid special page [02:47:10] what's wrong? [02:49:27] Dantman: yeah, terrorists. [02:49:28] *Werdna ducks. [02:49:35] Heh [02:49:51] Well perhaps It just doesn't catch anything outside of phase3 [02:50:05] I'm committing to trunk/wikiSDK [02:50:20] ^_^ Got a webserver setup... with config scripts [02:50:45] Next thing to deal with is the database... probably do that tomorrow [02:54:35] shaiaqua: did you add the require_once line ? [02:54:49] well, then again, if there was a tab [02:55:24] yup [02:55:35] I tries the 1.11 version too, same deal [02:55:43] tried* [03:08:37] 03(WONTFIX) Template behaviour: quick fix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14239 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [03:18:40] 03(NEW) FlaggedRevs in pt.wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14254 normal; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (wikimedia.lestaty) [03:20:11] 03aaron * r35312 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.class.php FlaggedRevs.php): Handy special page links for categories (bug 14205) [03:20:24] 03(FIXED) Add links to Special:UnreviewedPages and Special: OldReviewedpages to category pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14205 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [03:20:33] is there a function that lets you run raw sql code? [03:22:58] 03(WONTFIX) Template changes get autoflagged after a revert is autoflagged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14250 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [03:25:47] 03(mod) FlaggedRevs in pt.wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14254 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [03:27:05] shaiaqua: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Asksql [03:28:47] question: if I want to create a link to a page, but want to add stuff after the ?action=edit; for example, if you search for "ababab" and that doesn't exist, I want to link you to [[$1?action=edit&template:mytemplate]], what's the syntax? [03:30:09] DanielTahar: you'll probably have to make it an external link [03:31:10] ok, that works; however, when I create an external link, if it's to http://www.yahoo.com/$1/test it works well, AS LONG AS $1 doesn't contain a space... how do I tell it that this is part of the string? Ie www.yahoo.com/daniel tahar/test? [03:32:36] you may want http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Urlencode [03:34:46] AaronSchulz: Hi :) for Additional Comments, I select "Leave as new" in bugzilla? [03:34:50] hmm. how do I tell Wiki to stop parsing? Maybe I can put in "(stop wiki parsing)(start parsing again)<$1>(stop)(start)", that way It'll "generate" the url for me? [03:34:53] is it possible to override the formatting of == [03:35:08] Sir_Lestaty: yeah [03:35:16] thanks :) [03:35:28] 03(mod) FlaggedRevs in pt.wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14254 (10wikimedia.lestaty) [03:35:28] DanielTahar: perhaps [03:35:42] although I'm not sure you can add that in links [03:40:12] DanielTahar: {{fullurl}} will work with spacese, see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Parser_function#URLENCODE [03:40:17] spaces* [04:02:32] 03(NEW) Depreciating older reviewed versions shouldn't be possible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14255 minor; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (mnh) [04:16:48] howdy guys. I want to add one more language to my mediawiki, what's the best way to do that? [04:21:28] another parallel wiki with different content language? [04:21:41] or another language choice in user preferences? [04:30:31] 03aaron * r35313 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (3 files): Localize special page names for FlaggedRevs (bug 14195) [04:30:38] 03(FIXED) Localize special page names for FlaggedRevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14195 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [04:42:45] 03aaron * r35314 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: * Remove unneeded hooked call [05:04:37] Notice: Undefined variable: extrapages in C:\Server\xampp\htdocs\MW\includes\SpecialMovepage.php on line 357 [05:04:39] Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in C:\Server\xampp\htdocs\MW\includes\SpecialMovepage.php on line 357 [05:04:41] *AaronSchulz sighs [05:06:50] *MZMcBride defines Aaron's variables. :P [05:07:03] 03aaron * r35315 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (SpecialMovepage.php Title.php): [05:07:03] * Wrap file into one nice move transaction with the rest [05:07:03] * Fix undefined variable error [05:15:39] 03aaron * r35316 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: getText() looks prettier [05:24:02] 03aaron * r35317 10/trunk/phase3/skins/common/shared.css: Darking pager dead links a tad [05:32:17] Splarka what I meant is uhhm.. yea. I need to have a 2nd wiki? i.e. en.japanwiki.org and ch.japanwiki.org ? [05:35:05] !multiplewiki | Jubei [05:35:05] --mwbot-- Jubei: To run multiple wikis, you can simply install MediaWiki in different folders, with different databases or in one with database prefixes. You can also have multiple wikis using a single installation: and . [05:38:45] 03(NEW) Fix for pattern-matching for attribute properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14256 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (yaron57) [06:27:28] okay now i executed DumpHTML.php and surprisingly i have segfaults with the exact same articles as i had with the RebuildLinks.php script [06:27:30] i have xdebug enabled but get no trace of the error [06:27:58] what can i do to help fixing this issue [06:36:41] Splarka thank you. [07:43:38] is it possible to insert a tab in an article? [07:51:25] Wind0, what would you use that for?? [07:55:37] hi [08:08:12] 03(mod) Create approved wikis (May 2008): Wikinews Czech, Wikipedia Fiji Hindi & Karakalpak & Moksha & Sakha & Silesian & Sranan Tongo , Wikisource Limburgish, Wikiversity Czech & Portuguese - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14252 (10erkan77) [08:09:52] 03(mod) Add "beta" or "mul" interwiki link prefix for beta.wikiversity. org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13334 (10erkan77) [08:14:36] <_wooz> lo [08:22:35] rainman-sr: you there? [08:25:03] i still have this nasty segfault and i can explain someone how to reproduce it - who would be interested to fix this? [08:25:43] as it happens with dumHTML and refreshLinks with the exact same id it seems to be a somewhat deeper problem [08:25:59] now i even have two ids where this happens [08:26:17] josch: uh, a segfault can't really be a bug in mediawiki. php is a scripting language -- if it triggers a segfault, this is due to a bug in the interpreter, i.e., php itself. [08:26:41] being able to reproduce it is great though... maybe someone can assist you in getting a debug trace to send to php people. [08:26:48] i have never debugged into php, so i can't [08:27:03] Duesentrieb, but this *bug* in php has to be triggered from some action in mediawiki so i think it would be good to know what happened [08:27:12] sure. [08:27:38] do you happen to know where i should ask to be of assistance? [08:27:43] maybe even a voodo magic workaround would be possible. but the probelm should be reported and fixed upstream [08:27:50] hm, not really, no [08:27:54] :/ [08:28:21] except that this is a very bad time -- sunday morning tends to be *very* quiet. and the USians arn't awake yet either. [08:28:39] hehe yeah i now [08:28:40] know [08:28:57] so maybe i should come back tomorrow in the evening or so... [08:29:26] josch: per haps whip up a bug report with all the details anyway [08:29:30] so it doesn't get forgotten [08:30:09] in which bugtracker should this be placed? [08:30:13] anyway - one persone who does know about the gory internals of php is TimStarling. He tends to be very busy though. [08:30:17] !bugzilla [08:30:17] --mwbot-- All bugs in MediaWiki should be reported at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org. This is also the place to request site configuration changes, new features or enhancements to existing features, although bear the following points in mind before making a feature/enhancement request: 1) If the request is specific to a Wikimedia wiki, please discuss the issue on that wiki first. 2) Consider whether a custom extension would be more appropriate. [08:31:13] okay thanks - i will document my findings there [08:31:54] thank you [08:32:47] hey i thank you guys for your time - in the end it is a win-win situation where you mediawiki/php guys get fixed an error and i as a user get fixed aproblem :) [08:42:58] hello captain jacl [08:43:01] jack* [08:43:10] heya Fire :) [08:55:31] 03(NEW) php5 segfaults for refreshLinks.php and dumpHTML.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14257 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (j.schauer) [08:58:41] more ambiguous :D [09:03:48] "php5 segfaults for refreshLinks.php and dumpHTML.php" -> "thingy error on the code place" [09:05:01] Splarka, ? [09:05:25] would be "more ambiguous" ^_^ [09:05:33] (joke) [09:05:36] :( [09:05:45] i got very annoyed by this bug [09:05:52] but i dont know how to fix it [09:06:00] i think i described it very good [09:06:10] and it's even reproduceable [09:06:46] well i dont even know how to trace the bug [09:07:02] I was referring to the commit message... [09:07:14] Nikerabbit, explain [09:08:09] josch: totally unrelated to you [09:08:19] 03mfarag * r35318 10/trunk/extensions/Makebot/Makebot.i18n.php: Arabic localization updates [09:08:39] [05:05:10] CIA-51> *Changed i18n message in AuthorProtect extension to be more ambiguous [09:09:03] Nikerabbit, ah ^^ [09:09:11] sry [09:09:39] oops ^_^ [09:13:44] Splarka, why oops? [09:14:51] thought he was referring to you, but to be fair, that ambiguous commit was nowhere in the scrollback of the last 5 hours so the timing was too perfect [09:16:56] haha now i'm totally lost :) [09:17:01] doesnt matter ^^ [09:18:22] lost? this is the internet... or is it... hmm [09:19:02] on the internet... nobody can hear you scream [09:19:57] they can with streaming audio [09:20:17] streaming screaming audio? ;) [09:43:18] 03(mod) Still able to create accounts on projects with a SUL-account-names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14248 (10N/A) [10:51:49] question: [10:52:47] i set up a wiki the other day, the url is like http://../wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page [10:52:53] is that correct? [10:53:13] shouldn't it be more like http://..wiki/Main_Page [10:53:20] !shorturl [10:53:20] --mwbot-- To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [10:54:03] ah? [10:54:21] but they are not compatible across each other are they? [10:55:50] http://example.com/wiki/index.php/Page_title (recent versions of MediaWiki, unless using CGI) [10:55:50] http://example.com/wiki/index.php?title=Page_title (recent versions of MediaWiki, using CGI) [10:55:57] what is CGI? [10:58:15] Common Gatewa Interface, for data exchange beween a web server and thirtd party programs/scripts (Perl) [10:58:23] See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Gateway_Interface [10:59:26] cheers [11:14:11] hallo [11:14:11] ich habe ein problem mit meinem wiki. und zwar habe ich grad auf dem server die uhrzeit gestellt und date gibt die akutelle uhrzeit aus, aber wenn cih im wiki etwas schreibe, wird unter letzte änderungen die uhrzeit um eine stunde zurück angezeigt. [11:14:12] also ist das wiki noch nich auf sommerzeit gestellt?! kann man das irgendwie machen? [11:17:03] strubbl, sry english here [11:17:08] oh k [11:17:32] the time zone used in listings is a user preference [11:17:41] how can i change the wiki's time to summer time. on the server the out put of date is correct [11:17:45] go to Special:Preferences and adjust your timezone offset [11:17:53] oh, okay [11:18:04] Duesentrieb, oh you are german too? :D [11:18:11] i don't think there's a way for automatic DST correction though (which kind of sucks) [11:18:28] your nick suggested it but... ;) [11:18:33] josch: ja sicher :) aber auf englisch können sich halt auch andere beteiligen. [11:18:40] haha [11:19:01] right [11:19:04] rofl [11:19:09] aber danke. hat geholfen ^^ [11:19:45] quite a few germans here. and finns. and turks. and french. and who-knows-what :P [11:20:02] english speakers are probably in the minority currently. still early in the US :) [11:20:06] hello Duesentrieb [11:20:18] ah, the finns :P Hi Nikerabbit :) [11:20:48] ah nice - i talk to finns everyday for my work at nokia :) [11:22:51] Duesentrieb: there is probably aronud the people from Finland here... but they never say anything [11:23:45] i see finnish chatter here every now and then :) [11:27:03] I know at least Jack_Phoenix, str4nd, gola_ and some I don't know like jpalko, toweri and mkpaa, jaydeearm [11:27:12] Duesentrieb: that's prolly me often :o [11:29:55] Wazzat. [11:30:47] tjaba toweri [11:39:37] Duesentrieb, here [11:40:12] rainman-sr: hey :) i just ran across something earlier today. I saw brions post here: http://leuksman.com/log/2008/05/24/mobile-gateway-search/ [11:40:48] rainman-sr: at the bottom he mentions that the "correct" result only shows up as nr 5 in the result. so i though i'd check with my own term->concept mapping. [11:40:54] rainman-sr: oo, did you write language converter? [11:41:11] Nikerabbit, no, it was the chinese guy.. [11:41:20] :E [11:41:27] rainman-sr: the result is quite encuraging :) whait, i'll pastebin it [11:41:27] it's a very undocumented [11:41:36] Nikerabbit, zheng zhui, something like that [11:41:43] Duesentrieb, yes, please! [11:41:54] rainman-sr: http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/view/932/ [11:42:21] to use my mapping as a search index, you'd have to convert everything to lower-case, and maybe do some more normalization. [11:42:25] but generally, it works. [11:42:30] rainman-sr: too bad, I was wondering if you would know enough to fix bug 10837 :( [11:43:19] Duesentrieb, why does it return that as the first hit, can you explain? [11:44:11] rainman-sr: there are only two matches. i didn't specify a sort order, so it's actually coincidence. but the relevant figure in this case would be the freq field, which is the number of times that term was used with this meaning. [11:44:11] Nikerabbit, what always did strike me as odd is why is there variant and lanugage selector [11:44:18] you can also add an IDF figure, wait... [11:44:36] Nikerabbit, language selector would be enough alone because it contains all variants [11:46:16] Duesentrieb, i see, so it's an exact match for anchor text somewhere? [11:46:23] yes [11:46:23] rainman-sr: mm [11:46:28] that's neat, could be easily integrated [11:46:32] rainman-sr: should we remove it then? [11:46:39] Nikerabbit, I think so [11:47:04] rainman-sr: and only apply conversion if some variant is chosen? [11:47:10] rainman-sr: the terms used for anchor text and the terms used to query for a given page or concept coinside nicely. nicely shown in Eiron et.Al. and a few other papers. want links? [11:47:34] rainman-sr: anyway, here's an lf*idf-ranking: http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/view/933/ [11:47:40] pointless in this case [11:47:44] Nikerabbit, how conversion works is that it takes your langcode and converts stuff to it.. if it's sr, and not sr-ec it won't do anything [11:48:10] mm [11:48:21] or at least it's how i remember it do stuff [11:48:37] rainman-sr: compare http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/view/934/ [11:48:55] maybe those things got consfused at some point and that's the source of the bug [11:49:21] rainman-sr: can you do it someday? [11:49:31] Nikerabbit, yeah, i guess i will [11:49:56] Duesentrieb, nice [11:49:59] rainman-sr: would be nice... I got shot down when I tried to fix it some time ago... [11:50:11] rainman-sr: i'll make a dump of the relevant tables for you to play with [11:50:28] Nikerabbit, that's how the variant code is.. behaves quite strangely sometimes [11:52:45] Duesentrieb, what is freq and idf here? freq and idf of what? [11:54:07] rainman-sr: freq is the number of times this exact term is used to refer to the concept. [11:54:32] idf is calculated from the concept's (page's) in-degree [11:55:03] log(N/d) iirc [11:55:18] so idf prefers pages with smaller indegree? [11:55:44] yes. because they are more "selective". this is probably not really a good idea for a search ranking [11:55:50] it's more useful when picking indexing terms [11:56:01] it's supposed to reduce noise (like years, etc) [11:56:23] freq*idf is probably not a good searchn rank as such. i'd probably use raq frequency. [11:57:10] there's also another score, called lhs (local hierarchy score) calculated from the ratio of indegree to outdegree -- it's a measure of "centrality" of the concept. may also be worht playing with [11:57:34] "concepts" are equivalent to "real" wiki pages [11:57:40] i.e. not redirects, not disambig, not list. [11:58:05] (and main namespace) [11:59:06] rainman-sr: http://aspra27.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~dkinzler/sqldumps/meanings-en.sql.bz2 <-- 313.5M [11:59:13] two tables. [11:59:17] yes, got that.. well, using idf is prolly not that bad for score because you'll have linear / log, so in a sense you still favour stuff with larger indegree [12:00:11] the meaning table has the term-concept-mapping with frequency, the degree table has degrees, ranks and some figures like idf and lhs [12:00:19] have fun :) [12:00:31] heh, ok, thanks :) [12:00:57] 03(mod) CSS properties in wikitext can be abused to spam and make it difficult to remove them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9526 (10Platonides) [12:01:32] rainman-sr: hint, to avoid noise, ignore entires with rule < 20 and freq < 3. [12:01:45] or < 2, you tweak it. [12:02:27] why does the linker fail with $skin->makeKnownLinkObj( 'Special:UnHideRevision', 'undo', [12:02:28] '?revision=' . $row->rev_id ) ? I know that the page is recognized by the wiki, but here it says error [12:03:46] "fail"? [12:03:47] details plz [12:10:19] Werdna: (undo) [12:12:59] shaiaqua: you want $skin->makeKnownLink( ... [12:13:09] makeKnownLinkObj requires a title object [12:13:13] makeKnownLink requires a string [12:13:53] I believe it is: $victim = Title::makeTitle( $row->page_namespace, $row->page_title ); [12:15:52] opps [12:15:54] I see [12:15:56] thanks [12:51:29] 03(NEW) Attempting to move with subpages to a namespace fails with DB error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14258 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (sco_scam) [12:55:49] Hi [12:57:35] I have a question about how English Wikipedia is able to filter down the license list [12:57:41] I tried what they did, but doesn't work [12:57:58] The license drop down list still show all available instead of the subset of the list I specified [12:59:11] I put the upload text here: http://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B5%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B4:Uploadtext/th-nonfree [12:59:20] and licenses here: http://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B5%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B4:Licenses/th-nonfree [12:59:23] the uploadtext shows up fine [12:59:34] just the licenses not showing the subset one I put in [12:59:45] Not sure what is missing to get this to work [13:02:30] if I want to echo something, what function do I use? global $wgout; $wgout->addHtml complains that $wgout is not an object [13:03:03] shaiaqua: $wgOut not $wgout [13:13:32] JeLuF: here? [13:15:19] why doesn't this work: http://rafb.net/p/lzDd9y69.html [13:15:30] it doesn't enter anything into the db [13:18:55] shaiaqua: What is dbw? [13:19:39] database slave [13:20:32] how would I get past [rev_id] => stdClass Object? [13:21:47] Why is $dbw a database slave? [13:21:55] $dbw should be a database master. [13:23:59] *shaiaqua checks [13:24:05] yea, you're right [13:26:21] hi [13:26:37] Warning: mysql_real_escape_string() expects parameter 1 to be string, object given in Database.php on line 1691
[13:34:32] how do you convert [rev_id] => stdClass Object into a normal array? [13:43:00] How do you get a normal array from select()? [13:43:45] shaiaqua: iterate in while( $row = $dbr->fetchObject( $res ) ) [13:49:58] VasilievVV: that gave me a stdClass object [13:51:35] shaiaqua: $dbr->fetchRow then [13:58:55] 03(NEW) Add new message 'import-upload' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14259 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (innocentkiller) [14:07:10] 03leon * r35319 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [14:07:10] * (bug 14259) Localisation message for upload button on Special:Import is now 'import-upload' [14:07:10] instead of 'upload' [14:07:10] * -> German localisation update [14:07:48] 03(FIXED) Add new message 'import-upload' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14259 +comment (10leon) [14:41:16] 03ialex * r35320 10/trunk/extensions/DeletedContributions/DeletedContributions_body.php: Use wfMsgNoTrans so it works like $wgOut->addWikiMsg() [14:43:33] ialex: that's still wrong :o [14:44:22] Nikerabbit: it should use $wgOut->addWikiMsg() ? [14:44:32] ialex: mmm let me think [14:47:53] 03ialex * r35321 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Per r35319: update messages.inc and rebuild MessagesEn.php [14:48:01] ialex: mmm maybe just use double hit... [14:48:23] "double hit" ? [14:50:08] ialex: can you test a patch? [14:50:19] maybe ;) [14:52:40] ialex: something like http://translatewiki.net/sandwiki/extensions/delco.txt [14:58:18] why does http://rafb.net/p/YxH8ap26.html return an empty array? (the two values are 2 and null) [15:01:59] that code um... isn't a very clear [15:02:10] Nikerabbit: $wgOut->wrapWikiMsg( "
\n$1\n
", array( $message, $target ) ); [15:02:22] ialex: why array() [15:02:41] oh [15:02:43] yes of course [15:02:45] because you can have $1, $2, ... in the text [15:03:08] what do you mean by not clear? [15:03:14] I've mad this mistake before :o [15:03:41] and new lines to work with tables [15:03:52] ialex: why not use func_get_args like the other wfMsg functions? [15:04:36] flyingparchment: where ? [15:04:45] ialex: in wrapWikiMsg [15:05:05] is there an easier way to see if a cell exists? [15:08:16] flyingparchment: wrapWikiMsg uses func_get_args (or i didn't understand your question correctly) [15:08:35] what's the array for? [15:09:29] testing if cells exist [15:10:47] 03(mod) Still able to create accounts on projects with a SUL-account-names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14248 +comment (10thogol) [15:11:37] flyingparchment: because you can have $wgOut->wrapWikiMsg( "Blah $1 blak $2", array( 'message1', 'arg1' ), array( 'message2', 'arg2' ) ); [15:11:37] s/blak/blah [15:11:37] if($result['unhidden_by_user'] || !$result['hidden_page']) [15:12:23] shaiaqua: espand your code a little. [15:12:23] it doesn't have to be less than five lines. [15:14:35] this is the chunk: http://rafb.net/p/ufRy3a80.html [15:20:31] hi [15:44:22] if I want to import a directory of content, its html files what could I use? I just tried with wiki_import.sh ... but its not adding the links in the html files [15:45:33] like i want to move all my stuff into mediawiki and work with there [15:46:57] you can't just shove html into mediawiki [15:47:17] why does http://rafb.net/p/ufRy3a80.html make an empty array? (the values are 2 and null) [15:49:02] nikerabbit well most of it worked to shove ;D [15:49:25] i'm using this http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/wiki_import/ [15:50:17] it works very good, but it doesn't translate my links properly, hmm.. [15:53:10] it uses "link" instead of ? [15:53:26] hmm gona try and create a script that might do it for me [15:57:03] this is a sample it doesn't convert
  • <a name="p-697168a701f0a1ef6a2b5fd196ac64b6b590ba5d" class="WikiLink" id="p-697168a701f0a1ef6a2b5fd196ac64b6b590ba5d" href="/new%2Butopia%2B-%2Bbody%2Bdiagram%2B-%2Bdamage%2Bcalc">Body Diagram</a> ( wounds ) 
  • [15:57:03] .. could it be cause of the id tag? [15:57:54] oh wait [15:58:16] odd the < is removed [16:02:05] external link in wikitext is [http://blaa desc] [16:02:24] its on localhost [16:02:36] oh yeah thats wrong too [16:02:39] hmm.. [16:02:55] link to another wikipage is [[pagename|descripion]] [16:13:20] I've created an extension and want to make it available to everybody. I'm editing its page but don't know how to upload the extension [16:13:33] Hello [16:13:37] hello [16:13:56] I want to update MediaWiki 1.8 to 1.12 but i dont understand very good the manual. Can someone reply my questions? :) (private window?) [16:15:03] Just ask here. [16:15:26] Isb1009, which page is it? [16:15:37] Extension:Piwik_Integration [16:16:32] Isb1009, right. shall I commit the code to the mediawiki svn repository? [16:17:18] ok [16:17:34] Where shall I paste the code? [16:17:42] Is it just one file? [16:18:05] yes [16:18:14] rafb.net/paste for example, then [16:18:19] ok [16:20:18] LeonWP, it's in http://rafb.net/p/ncBguy89.html [16:21:14] *nod* [16:21:30] it should be in extensions/piwik/Piwik.php [16:24:38] Isb1009, have you tested it? [16:24:41] yes [16:25:25] ok [16:25:30] I'm currently using it on my wiki [16:26:26] would be good to supply a README or INSTALL file [16:26:52] ok, I'll make it and paste it to rafb.net [16:27:07] ok [16:27:28] shall I add the GPL note at the top of the file? [16:29:03] hey everyone. Anyone know how to check if a title is a redirect? I made a titleobject, and then tried this, but it didn't work: if ($myTitleObject->isRedirect() == true) [16:29:08] any ideas? [16:29:23] 03(NEW) Extra pipes in image markup breaks in tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14260 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (rockmfr) [16:29:34] Isb1009, also, an email adress for contacting you might be good [16:30:08] "Call to undefined method Title::isRedirect()" -- that's my error [16:30:46] duke33, if( is_object( Title::newFromRedirect( $text ) ) ) [16:30:54] duke33, or don't you have the text? [16:31:21] Isb is not responding, maybe leon knows it: Back up existing files and the database. My question is; is it allright that i am backupping my whole host (in Direct Admin and then creat backup) or must i make a text dump? [16:32:59] sorry, LeonWP, I'm writing the file [16:33:01] I'm not sure what your hoster actually does on 'create backup', but I guess that'd be ok, if you have the possibility to restore it [16:33:13] Isb1009, ya, no problem ;) [16:33:51] if you want my email address to make things faster, I can give it to you privately [16:34:17] Isb1009, ah, you don't want to have it in the file as the author note? [16:34:24] thanks leon - checking... [16:34:33] That's right leon ;) [16:34:43] Isb1009, like * @author isb1009 [16:34:52] But after install 1.12 he said that he cant find my datebases :S [16:34:54] ok [16:35:47] but i will try it again and again and again, thnx :P [16:36:32] you can also make a database dump, if you're having trouble with the hoster's backup system [16:36:54] LeonWP, I don't mind writing it on the file [16:37:11] so, I give it to you, and write it [16:37:12] Isb1009, ok. which one is it, then? :) [16:37:24] isb1009 at gmail dot com [16:37:43] *nod [16:37:44] * [16:49:51] 03(FIXED) Main page is showing up in a weird font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14253 (10az6024283313) [17:00:32] :-! [17:00:53] 03brion * r35322 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Revert r35277 (grayed-out paging links). IMHO this just doesn't look very good. [17:00:59] xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa [17:01:04] LeonWP, the README is inside http://rafb.net/p/80l9Zs22.html [17:01:35] что тут все пишете [17:02:14] ёбаный в рот ни ебатся не понятно [17:04:05] что хуйнёй маетесь [17:05:14] baran entered the room. [17:05:35] If you think the instructions are a bit confusing, tell me, please. [17:05:47] я не понимаю :o [17:06:22] такая же хуйня!!! ты как сюда попал? [17:06:43] helps if you can speak english [17:07:13] пиши по русский [17:07:53] что хочеш чтоб помогли ха ха ха [17:08:39] мы где вобще находимся [17:08:47] 03brion * r35323 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: [17:08:47] Revert patch credit removal in r35287. [17:08:47] VERY bad form, dude. VERY bad form. [17:09:01] no idea what he is talking now :( [17:09:29] Oh. brion's in revert mood :) [17:09:32] no idea what he is talking now :( [17:09:42] no idea what he is talking now :( [17:09:46] no idea what he is talking now :( [17:09:47] Oo [17:10:06] что ООООООООООО? [17:10:37] baran: ты знаетесш англиский язык? [17:11:25] я не что английский я вобще не знаю где нахожусь в чате в каком то [17:12:02] doo yoi spik rassia [17:12:45] а насчёт чего сдесь чат вобще? [17:13:41] Nikerabbit а ты чего сдесь делаеш [17:13:59] AlexSm: can you help? [17:14:18] can you help? [17:14:23] can you help? [17:14:26] or VasilievVV perhaps... [17:14:27] can you help? [17:14:39] baran: чего тебе? [17:14:48] can you help?:-$ [17:15:07] что сдесь за чат? [17:15:24] Someone should just kick him. [17:15:28] baran: We heard you the first time, if someone is able to speak the same language as you they will say; there is no need to repeatedly ask for help. [17:15:46] LeonWP, have you seen the link to the README file? [17:15:55] Isb1009, yep. one second.. [17:15:58] ok [17:16:11] baran: тут тех. поддержка движка #mediawiki [17:16:48] а как я сюда попал ? [17:18:04] baran: это не к нам вопрос [17:18:26] 03leon * r35324 10/trunk/extensions/piwik/ (. Piwik.php README): [17:18:26] Commiting Piwik extension for isb1009. [17:18:26] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Piwik_Integration [17:18:52] Isb1009, there you go. [17:19:08] Isb1009, for future updates, just ask here for someone to commit it. [17:19:11] Ok [17:19:17] Thanks a lot [17:19:48] MinuteElectron: he doesn't understand english :) [17:20:05] Isb1009, or you could also file a bug on bugzilla.wikimedia.org and attach the patch. [17:20:07] Oh, right. [17:20:08] Isb1009, no problem :) [17:20:10] heh [17:20:53] *VasilievVV found he had left [17:21:12] VasilievVV: was he anything but a troll? [17:21:33] No [17:21:55] He just wondered where he was [17:22:02] lol [17:22:09] Why the +o then? [17:22:31] Wanted to kick him [17:22:33] Ahh [17:22:35] hi. which plugin do i need for source tags? [17:22:40] It's he again! :)) [17:22:50] If he's stopped then that's kinda bad etiquette. [17:22:55] VasilievVV: maybe someday I will understand what he said :o [17:23:51] Nikerabbit: you said "I don't understad" [17:24:01] Shall I write the instructions also on the Extension page? [17:24:16] He said "Oh, the same shit! how did you get here?" [17:24:26] VasilievVV: haha [17:24:59] and that is why russians kick so much ass. :P [17:25:17] :O [17:25:28] I've only studied it for 3 credits worth and that's what I've learned :o [17:29:47] Filnik: what did you ate? [17:29:49] eat [17:30:01] Nikerabbit: "Lasagne" [17:30:11] Nikerabbit: Italian dish :) [17:30:43] Filnik: ooh [17:30:59] Filnik: i've never eaten real italian food [17:31:02] Nikerabbit: like these ones: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Lasagne.jpg [17:31:12] Nikerabbit: I always :) [17:31:26] Nikerabbit: you're american, aren't you? :) [17:31:32] Filnik: oh god no! [17:31:35] Is there a variable in MediaWiki that can be used in a template that automatically puts in the name and time (like the ~~~~ code) of the editor? [17:31:36] :D [17:31:40] Or at least their name? [17:31:52] *Filnik has eaten also some german dishes to tell the truth.. [17:32:04] Filnik: if I look like one it's not intentional [17:32:12] Nikerabbit: so where are you from? :) [17:32:14] CrossKel, ~~~~~? [17:32:15] CrossKel > there's an example extension that adds {{CURRENTUSER}} [17:32:43] I forgot what it was called [17:32:51] if you google it though, you should find it [17:33:01] Filnik: from the land of lordi and teräsbetoni aka Finland [17:33:04] slakr: Thank you very much! [17:33:10] Nikerabbit: :D [17:33:12] the timestamp is basically just ~~~~~ or any number of the [[Help:Magic words]] [17:33:22] Nikerabbit: the deigan-protex lang [17:33:24] *land [17:33:26] or time formatting parser function [17:33:51] Nikerabbit: here in Italy we have a pubblicity that takes place in finland about them :D [17:34:09] Nikerabbit: seems that you have always perfect white theeth ^^ [17:34:39] Filnik > haha, that's what's so great about wp. The lasagne pic on commons? "This picture was transferred from the italian Wikipedia" So, you know it's genuine :P [17:34:57] slakr: hihi :D [17:35:04] hehe [17:35:12] Filnik: :OO [17:35:21] slakr: to tell the truth I've seen that they were more or less the same as mine :) [17:35:34] slakr: and non italians don't make them by hand ;) [17:35:50] yeah [17:35:52] *slakr doesn't [17:35:55] lol [17:36:12] *daygum protex [17:36:27] slakr: ;) my granma always do them by hand ^^ [17:36:32] 03(NEW) More information in hookaborted API error needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14261 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (semenik) [17:36:36] *slakr is jealous :P [17:36:39] 03(mod) activate edit api on en-wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14210 (10semenik) [17:36:54] slakr: eheh :D [17:44:37] how do i disable editing for not registered users? [17:45:09] !wg GroupPermissions [17:45:09] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgGroupPermissions [17:48:04] 03(FIXED) Move the head link-rel stylesheet tag of extensions like FlaggedRevs downwards - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14012 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [17:49:57] 03(mod) activate edit api on en-wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14210 +comment (10slakr) [17:51:33] what file it output() in? [17:52:24] hello [17:52:40] fgrep -r "function output" * [17:52:51] :P [18:03:37] thnx [18:03:41] () [18:04:03] (no full text search in osx tiger and i didn't think about using command line :) ) [18:08:09] 03dantman * r35325 10/trunk/wikiSDK/ (8 files in 2 dirs): [18:08:09] Add further updates to SDK. [18:08:09] * ./server now runs sql server, and handles config of a php.ini file. [18:08:09] * ./setup can create some helper Documents (currently a phpinfo.php) and also install phpMyAdmin. (Auto-configuration of it is on the ToDo list) [18:08:09] * config and README have been modified with updated info. [18:08:13] * Xerver2.cfg.base changed to Xerver2.cfg and updated with new info along with a new php.ini-win for windows configuration of PHP. [18:08:16] ^_^ more tweaks to the SDK... it's comming allong well [18:20:45] 03aaron * r35326 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: Move 'NewRevisionFromEditComplete' to proper place (bug 14251) [18:20:55] 03(FIXED) Moving an unflagged page A to a flagged page B inherits flag status of B - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14251 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [18:22:17] 03(mod) Depreciating older reviewed versions shouldn't be possible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14255 (10JSchulz_4587) [18:35:35] Is there a way to escape the name/time signature (~~~~) for use in templates, without showing the template creator's info, instead of the template user's? [18:36:00] Er, no. [18:36:16] Darn... Thank you. [18:40:07] CrossKel: ~~~~ [18:43:54] MinuteElectron, ouch! :D [18:45:04] can anyone help me with my problem? [18:45:11] MinuteElectron: Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to work. I only end up with the ~~~~ marks then, instead of the info. Thank you, though. [18:45:16] www.jefton.freehostia.com [18:45:28] http://jefton.freehostia.com/ [18:45:33] i just tried to move my wiki [18:54:52] trigun0x2: are you sure that it's PHP5 ? [18:55:00] i think so [18:55:17] actually u may be right [18:55:28] cause they have a old version of phpmyadmin [18:56:00] AHH! [18:56:06] I just changed it to php5 [18:56:32] YES! [18:56:34] thanks [18:56:57] 04(REOPENED) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 (10alefzet) [18:58:00] I'm playing with $wgMainCacheType to speed up requests on a 486/200MHz machine. [18:58:21] APC helps a lot, and I'd like to combine that with page caching. [18:58:30] are you insane? :o [18:58:31] 03(mod) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 +comment (10alefzet) [18:58:49] (As I understand it, APC is a code-cacher, and presumably orthogonal to page caching. [18:59:23] But the docs say $wgMainCacheType only takes one of the allowed types. [18:59:46] Is it possible to use caching of compiled code *and* caching of HTML pages? [18:59:58] Nikerabbit: yes, but that's not relevant. [19:00:31] Budd [19:00:33] can you help me? [19:00:34] (the machine in question runs on 5w, and if it can stand in for my normal server, I save kWh. [19:00:57] Budd: there are two things to consider: *what* to cache and *where* [19:01:06] Budd: doesn't apc do it by default? [19:01:11] oh [19:01:17] you mean full pages? [19:01:18] 03ialex * r35327 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesKk_arab.php MessagesKk_cyrl.php MessagesKk_latn.php): (bug 12145) Kazakh message updates [19:01:22] Budd: code caches like APC can also store arbitrary data, and can thus also be used for the parser cache [19:01:37] (and maybe even full pages, not sure about that) [19:01:47] 03(FIXED) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [19:01:57] Duesentrieb: so I'm unlikely to get any benefit through further caching? [19:02:37] if you have APC enabled and $wgMainCacheType set to that, parser cache etc should automatically use it. [19:02:39] it think [19:02:44] i never played with this too much [19:03:03] it also depends on wether you have one apache/php box or multiple [19:03:25] anabling filecache can still help, if you have a lot of anonymous readers [19:08:38] i suspect the file cache has a few bugs, it hasn't been used or maintained for a long time [19:09:46] 03huji * r35328 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: Localisation updates: Adding/updating Persian translations [19:12:05] 03aaron * r35329 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Cleaner to just get rid of imagePageFindFile check [19:12:59] filecache does come with some disclaimers, and does suggest squid as an alternative. [19:15:57] 03aaron * r35330 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/SpecialConfirmAccount.php: $wgSpecialPageGroups [19:27:19] 03(mod) autoConvert() should use StubObject::isRealObject() instead of isset() in LanguageConverter.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11751 +comment (10alefzet) [19:40:16] http://webseiten-buch.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/align.jpg [19:40:35] xDD [19:41:02] hah [19:41:34] 03(mod) autoConvert() should use StubObject::isRealObject() instead of isset() in LanguageConverter.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11751 +comment (10semenik) [19:42:04] why $wgUsePathInfo = ( strpos( php_sapi_name(), 'cgi' ) === false ); ? [19:43:47] you cannot view diff on preview? [19:46:44] should i upgrade if i am running 1.11.0 ? [19:49:07] probably [19:49:48] MinuteElectron, what do you think of viewing diff on preview? [19:50:06] Wind0, if you have time to spare [19:50:14] alnokta: you push shw changes, no? [19:51:02] MinuteElectron, i don't understand that [19:52:14] Nikerabbit, what is the status of migrating betawiki to wikimedia? [just tried logging in with the same password on wm] [19:52:43] alnokta: betawiki is not being migrated to Wikimedia. [19:53:04] why $wgUsePathInfo = ( strpos( php_sapi_name(), 'cgi' ) === false ); ? [19:53:31] MinuteElectron, last time i checked it was ;) .. what do you mean by "you push shw changes, no?"? [19:53:48] EnderOL: Path info (e.g. index.php/Page_name) cannot be used on php-cgi servers, that detects if it is a CGI sever or not and disables path info if it is. [19:54:02] alnokta: You just push the "show changes" button. [19:54:11] 03(FIXED) autoConvert() should use StubObject::isRealObject() instead of isset() in LanguageConverter.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11751 +comment (10rainman) [19:54:22] hmm but path info works on my server.. [19:54:33] even though it has cgi [19:54:45] as php_sapi_name() [19:55:43] MinuteElectron, yes, but there is no diff comparison which i need to see, i just wasted 81 KB for nothing [19:56:02] I don't know then. [19:56:16] are there any general tips on how to make tables less horrible in mediawiki? like, right-align numbers by default and that kind of thing? [19:56:44] do i need an 'align="right"' in every cell containing a number anywhere in my wiki? [19:57:03] MinuteElectron, is that don't know for me or enderol ? :) [19:57:18] both [19:58:27] bakert: you can use css classes and/or templates [19:58:40] hm... does html have a way to do per-column styles? [19:58:57] html, no [19:58:57] what about adding "cgi-fcgi" to the list of the checks ? in $wgUsePathInfo = ( strpos( php_sapi_name(), 'cgi' ) === false ); [19:59:11] Duesentrieb: what i'm after really is a way to make it happen automatically [19:59:16] alnokta: strpos(..., 'cgi') will match 'cgi-fcgi' [19:59:17] bakert: then mw doesn't either, very likely. the table syntax is mapped pretty much directly to html-. [19:59:30] sure [19:59:37] bakert: then you'd have to have a way to prevent it too [19:59:44] i suppose [19:59:47] grr [19:59:47] Duesentrieb: isn't that what is for? [20:00:00] flyingparchment, but it didn't, i had to disable it by adding $wgUsePathInfo=false in LS.php [20:00:03] flyingparchment: dunno, never played with that [20:02:17] 03(mod) activate edit api on en-wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14210 (10roan.kattouw) [20:09:23] 03(NEW) Optionally show diff comparison on page preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14262 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (mohamed.m.k) [20:09:25] flyingparchment, did you try it? [20:11:30] stupid bugzilla doesn't allow editing of issue desc. [20:14:04] flyingparchment: No one needs to try anything with regards to that comparison, cgi-fcgi *will* === false. [20:14:26] alnokta: * [20:14:42] sorry [20:15:07] MinuteElectron, are you saying that i'm just making that up to annoy you ? :) [20:16:00] No, I'm just saying that it will === false, are you totally sure php_sapi_name() == 'cgi-fcgi' ? [20:17:01] thats what it says in special:version and there were a problem that didn't get fixed until i disabled it in ls.php [20:17:09] fine [20:18:46] 03(mod) Still able to create accounts on projects with a SUL-account-names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14248 +comment (10Platonides) [20:21:50] i remembered the problem, generateSITEMAP.php was making the url with http://url.wiki/index.php/articlename instead of http://url.wiki/index.php?title=articlename .. once i added $wgUsePathInfo = false; it generated correct urls [20:22:40] 03(mod) Still able to create accounts on projects with a SUL-account-names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14248 +comment (10dotkorg) [20:23:25] That suggests a generateSiteamp.php problem then. [20:23:48] http://alnokta.arablug.org/omkalthom/index.php?title=%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5:%D9%86%D8%B3%D8%AE%D8%A9 [20:24:28] ok [20:25:57] alnokta: on the command line, php_sapi_name() is 'cli' [20:26:03] alnokta: that obviously won't match 'cgi' [20:26:57] flyingparchment, ah! [20:29:36] 14(WFM) Optionally show diff comparison on page preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14262 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [20:30:36] 03ialex * r35331 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/SpecialConfirmAccount.php: Tweak for last commit ;) [20:31:21] flyingparchment, so are you adding it or generatesitemap is broken? [20:34:29] adding what? [20:34:56] 03ialex * r35332 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (6 files): [20:34:56] * Fixed a bug, Special:ViewConfig was checking for viewconfigure-all right instead of viewconfig-all [20:34:56] * In Special:ViewConfig, unviewabled setting are now displayed in grey [20:34:57] * Added right-viewconfig and right-viewconfig-all messages, dunno why I forgot them [20:35:28] hello. is there a way to combine to strings in mediawiki into one? ie $1 + "test"? [20:35:49] DanielTahar: if you're talking about a mediawiki message, just write "$1test" [20:35:54] (without the quotes) [20:36:21] flyingparchment, "cli" to the check [20:36:51] That's silly. [20:37:05] Since the non-cgi interfaces will often use cli for generateSitemap.php [20:37:51] correct [20:38:02] the fix is to explicitly set $wgUsePathInfo in LocalSettings.php [20:39:09] why it isn't explicitly set at install time in the first place? [20:39:29] That's a fair point. [20:39:39] It should be. [20:43:16] 03(mod) Optionally show diff comparison on page preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14262 (10mohamed.m.k) [20:44:54] hello [20:45:09] hallo Nikerabbit [20:46:01] hi alnokta [20:59:17] when mediawiki says it could not save due to a loss in session data what does this mean? i usually click save again and there are no problems- am i likely losing information in the process? [21:02:02] Hello. [21:02:11] Wind0: no [21:02:30] Does (or when will) MediaWiki support the .ogv extension for Ogg (video) files? [21:03:05] !e OggHandler [21:03:05] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OggHandler [21:03:17] AVRS: ^^ [21:03:20] thanks [21:06:22] Hi [21:06:35] is anyone available to help? [21:06:44] SwirlBoy39: what's your issue? [21:07:23] Hi, I recently got a part of a website (www.swirlboy39.unixpod.com) and want to run mediawiki on it [21:07:33] I have downloaded mediawiki [21:07:39] now what nakonisaway ? [21:08:08] try reading the installation manual? [21:08:14] SwirlBoy39: ensure that you have met the requirements at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Installation [21:08:33] hello people [21:08:36] and then http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installing_MediaWiki should be able to help you through the install process [21:08:46] i do not have permission to import pages what rank do i need ot be? [21:09:13] nakonisaway: I am coding illiterate and I am confused [21:09:34] trigun0x2: sysops have it by default on new mediawiki installations, but on wmf wikis, you need to be in the import group [21:09:55] 03nikerabbit * r35333 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * Avoid unstubbing parser too early [21:09:56] SwirlBoy39: installation requires no coding, your illiteracy is irrelevant. [21:10:24] I am so lost in this mediawiki set up right now [21:10:34] import group? [21:10:43] trigun0x2: which wiki are you referring to? [21:11:12] SwirlBoy39: If you be more specific we will be able to help you more efficiently. [21:11:23] If I could, I would. [21:11:33] Hi, I recently got a part of a website (www.swirlboy39.unixpod.com) and want to run mediawiki on it [21:11:38] that may help [21:12:05] SwirlBoy39: It doesn't, you just repeated what we knew all along; please be more specific about what you are lost in. [21:12:21] MinuteElectron: Ok, umm... [21:12:26] I have this website now [21:12:37] and I want to make it into a mediawiki wiki [21:12:38] SwirlBoy39: you need to let us know what steps in the installation process you're stuck at [21:12:46] I have downloaded mediawiki [21:12:49] now what/ [21:12:52] ?* [21:13:23] you need to upload it to your server [21:13:32] upload the package to your webspace and run the installer [21:13:46] charitwo www.eflourishes.com [21:13:50] i can't import [21:13:54] mediawiki is an unknown file type i think [21:13:58] *Charitwo looks [21:14:09] how do I upload it to the server? [21:14:11] SwirlBoy39: You must decompress it first. [21:14:30] how? [21:14:38] any idea how i can upload? [21:14:43] SwirlBoy39: What operating system do you have? [21:14:52] trigun0x2: upload images or import pages? [21:14:53] windows xp [21:14:59] import pages [21:15:02] SwirlBoy39: Do you have WinZip installed [21:15:03] www.eflourishes.com [21:15:09] no [21:15:13] Idk [21:15:39] SwirlBoy39: this would work for most compressed files http://www.download.com/WinRAR/3000-2250_4-10007677.html?tag=lst-1&cdlPid=10745708 [21:15:44] SwirlBoy39: Downlaod 7-zip and install it then use it to decompress the fiel. [21:16:18] trigun0x2: who maintains the webspace for that wiki? [21:16:30] freehostia.com [21:16:38] i'm the owner of the site [21:16:59] trigun0x2: you need to go into your [21:17:04] sql? [21:17:11] trigun0x2: you need to go into your LocalSettings.php and make sure this line is in there [21:17:13] $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['import'] = true; [21:17:14] MinuteElectron: I died after how can I know [21:17:21] oh thanks! [21:17:39] preferably at the bottom of the file [21:18:22] SwirlBoy39: get a program like 7-zip or WinRAR and unzip the file, then let us know [21:18:38] which is best Charitwo ? [21:19:02] 03ialex * r35334 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (5 files): [21:19:02] Security issues: [21:19:02] * Don't grant viewconfig-all to bureaucrat by default [21:19:02] * Don't allow user that don't have configure-all right to view restricted settings on Special:Configure [21:19:02] * Restrict $wgProxyKey and $wgSecretKey [21:19:08] doesn't matter, both do the job, I personally have WinRAR, though its shareware, so you'll have to pay for it after 30 days or something [21:19:09] thanks charitwo [21:19:16] but how do i actually upload a xml file? [21:19:16] trigun0x2: np [21:19:24] it says No transwiki import sources have been defined and direct history uploads are disabled. [21:19:26] trigun0x2: via [[Special:Import]] [21:19:36] No transwiki import sources have been defined and direct history uploads are disabled. [21:19:38] it says that [21:21:29] trigun0x2: it possibly may be due to the fact that you're running mediawiki 1.9.6, you should upgrade [21:21:30] Charitwo: I got 7zip now what [21:21:49] SwirlBoy39: once you've installed the software, navigate to the file and choose to unzip it [21:21:54] i am? [21:22:07] http://eflourishes.com/index.php?title=Special:Version [21:22:15] How do I know where I saved it Charitwo Firefox didn't tell me >:| [21:22:16] MediaWiki: 1.9.6 [21:22:33] wow [21:22:44] SwirlBoy39: goto firefox and hit CTRL - J to open up the downloads box [21:22:56] it should tell you where files are saved by default [21:22:57] o shall update! [21:23:03] :) [21:23:13] Charitwo: Nope [21:23:18] it says desktop [21:23:23] its not there [21:24:35] Charitwo: ^^^^ [21:24:46] odd, try searching your computer for mediawiki [21:25:59] 03(mod) Still able to create accounts on projects with a SUL-account-name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14248 summary (10willemo) [21:26:14] Charitwo: Nothin' :'( [21:26:55] SwirlBoy39: try downloading the file again http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.12/mediawiki-1.12.0.tar.gz [21:27:10] lemme try IE [21:27:59] found mediwiki stuff Charitwo [21:28:20] oh on your computer? [21:28:24] cyea [21:28:27] yea* [21:28:43] idk where it is it doesnt show the full location [21:28:44] ok, navigate to the file, right click, and there should be an unzip option [21:29:32] 1.11.0.patch or 1.12.0.tar Charitwo [21:29:54] the latter [21:29:58] if you're installing fresh, you should be using the latter [21:30:18] ???????? [21:30:31] I'm not reinstalling yet Charitwo [21:30:32] use 1.12.0.tar [21:31:21] to where Charitwo [21:31:39] unzip it somewhere convenient, like your desktop [21:32:19] whats the location of that? I have to type it Cha [21:32:24] Charitwo: [21:32:34] what version of windows are you running? [21:32:48] XP [21:33:08] should be C:\Documents and Settings\yourusername\Desktop [21:36:29] Charitwo: done [21:36:52] ok, now you need to upload that entire folder to your root directory of your webspace [21:37:12] how? [21:37:34] usually via FTP, how do you normally upload stuff to your webspace? [21:37:53] I haven't Charitwo [21:38:02] do you have webspace? [21:38:08] mhm [21:38:20] so i presume it's empty [21:38:24] Yes [21:39:00] for my own sanity, lets use the windows explorer ftp capability [21:39:19] whats your websites location [21:39:24] I have a ftp [21:39:27] I thinl [21:40:41] SwirlBoy39: whats the name of your websites location? [21:40:49] umm [21:41:02] www.swirlboy39.unixpod.com [21:41:49] i haven't use their hosting, but i would presume you'd connect via ftp.swirlboy39.unixpod.com or ftp.unixpod.com/swirlboy39 , depending on how their auth works [21:41:49] Hello [21:41:52] hello [21:42:58] I really like the Mediawiki markup for document authoring, but mediawiki is not the right tool for what I'm doing. Is there a way for me to write a mediawiki-markup document and have it converted to HTML? [21:43:34] !wikimarkup | toresbe [21:43:34] --mwbot-- toresbe: For help with MediaWiki's Wikitext syntax, please see . For an (incomplete) formal specification, see . [21:43:45] Charitwo: I can't find my FTP thing now.... [21:44:10] SwirlBoy39: open up My Documents or some random folder and type the ftp location in the address bar, that will work [21:44:15] None of that is relevant for whawt I'm asking, is it? [21:44:47] toresbe: mediawiki was designed to use wiki markup with very limited html support, i am not sure how to gear it to more HTML designed [21:45:46] toresbe, the basic answer is that the Parser is a part of MediaWiki and there's no supported way of running it as a command-line utility or anything straightforward like that. [21:45:50] SwirlBoy39: then you'd use the ftp username and password either setup by yourself at unixpod's website or one that they provided to you [21:45:54] Simetrical: thank you [21:45:58] You could hack one up if you wanted, probably. [21:45:59] I want to write mediawiki markup, and have it output HTML, Charitwo [21:46:08] Simetrical: Hrm. I'm tempted. [21:46:25] ah, i wasn't clear on what you were asking [21:46:39] toresbe: there are a lot of lightweight wiki-text engines out there that can be run standalone. some use a syntax similar to mediawiki [21:46:59] toresbe: mediawiki itself is probably the worst choice you can make for this :) [21:47:02] Yeah, MW is kind of horrible in that respect, arguably. [21:47:03] heh [21:47:18] Its syntax is undoubtedly the most complicated, convoluted, and slow to parse of any wiki engine. [21:47:30] Not that I know much about others, I just can't believe they're worse. [21:47:35] Believe it! [21:47:36] I don't care about that, really. :) [21:47:59] Just imagine all the awesomeness of CamelCaseAutoLinks with !AntiAutoLink [21:48:16] toresbe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightweight_markup_language [21:48:25] *Duesentrieb <3 wikipedia [21:49:00] toresbe: :) [21:49:04] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AsciiDoc is *perfect* [21:49:05] toresbe: markdown and textile seem to be popular, but read through the list :) [21:49:08] Laaknor: !!! hey, man! [21:49:14] Laaknor: Long time no see. How have you been doing? [21:49:22] I have a bug report of MW redirecting to its main page in an endless loop. Apparently " the problem is that mediawiki stops using $SERVER['path_info'] when php_sapi_name() = 'cgi', even though $SERVER['path_info'] works normal on the php-cgi server". [21:49:35] Anyone have any ideas, or shall I wait for Brion? [21:49:40] (or file a bug) [21:50:20] toresbe: yeah, long time ;) [21:50:58] 03(NEW) show diff on rollback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14263 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (dan_the_man) [21:56:30] having a syntax issue. can i have
     tags inside unordered lists without resetting the count?
    [21:57:04] 	no.
    [21:57:12] 	well, yes if you use html syntax for the list
    [21:57:22] 	not using wiki syntax
    [21:57:36] 	ah. thanks
    [22:18:35] 	Hello there, could I ask help about my mediawiki installation?
    [22:19:05] 	good night
    [22:19:21] 	!ask | Flyzone 
    [22:19:21] --mwbot--	Flyzone: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC.
    [22:22:06] 	So my problem.... In some pages, some "variable?" of mediawiki don't work. Like in the first page, I read "This page was been read {{PLURAL:2409|one time|2.409time}}"
    [22:22:52] 	I don't know from when is caming this problem, I have tried to debug like is wrote in the mediawiki page, but don't appear neither one error
    [22:24:37] 	Hello. I need some syntax help. I edited the noexactmatch page, but what I want it to do is link, instead of just to the default $1 (i.e. if you searched for "daniel tahar" it'll link to "daniel_tahar?action=edit", but rather want it to link to "daniel_tahar?action=edit&preload=Template:NewItem". That is, when people create a new page, even from the search page, I want it to automatically start with a template page. I'm lost here, 
    [22:25:46] 	Sorry mwbot just saw the "don't say i have a question" note
    [22:27:54] 	DanielTahar: no problem, you did *ask* your question after all :) also, mwbot doesn't mind, he's a bot :)
    [22:28:42] 	DanielTahar: uh, what exactly does $1 contain?
    [22:30:12] 	hm, looks like you'd have to play woth {{localurl:...}} magic
    [22:30:32] 	why is there .php5 files in the 1.12 zip if the version is php5-only anyway? what should i do with them?
    [22:31:13] 	ignore them
    [22:31:26] 	on some hosts, the extension .php triggers the php4 interpreter
    [22:31:52] 	to get the php5 interpreter, you need the .php5 files extension. which is while these files exist,. afaik, they just forward to the real files
    [22:32:40] 	DanielTahar: try this: [{{localurl:$1}}?action=edit&preload=Template:NewItem create $1]  
    [22:32:58] 	if this is not it, it should be close :P
    [22:34:14] 	alright thanks
    [22:37:13] 	03(NEW) Import sources should be maintained by stewards - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14264 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (dungodung)
    [22:40:27] 	Duesentrieb: It adds all kinds of junk... Basically for some reason, this page considers "$1" to already have the "?action=edit" as part of the $1 parameter, BUT, it adds it to the END of the string; IE, $1&usetemplate=1 WONT be title=new_page?action=edit&usetemplate=1, but rather title=new_page?usetemplate=1?action=edit, which doesnt work
    [22:40:36] 	03(mod) Import sources should be maintained by stewards - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14264  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
    [22:41:07] 	DanielTahar: did you use  *single* squire brackets?
    [22:41:17] 	[bla]
    [22:41:22] 	not [[bla]]
    [22:41:36] 	{{localurl}} generates a full url. so you need to use external link syntax
    [22:41:57] 	this also avoids getting action=edit attached automatically for a link to a non-existing page
    [22:44:51] 	well, now it thinks the "&action=edit" is part of the page... Ie the full link sends me to edit a page called "daniel?action=edit"
    [22:46:19] 	what i have there right now is [http://www.domain.com{{localurl:$1}}?action=edit&Preload=Template:NewItem], and what it creates is "editing daniel&action=edit"
    [22:47:25] 	Yuck... that is wrong in so many ways]
    [22:47:39] 	eheh
    [22:48:03] 	how do people usually implement a concept like "when a new page starts i want it to have some stuff already in it because my users are primitive"?
    [22:48:07] 	* localurl is ugly, unless you have a reason to otherwise, use fullurl in place of it always
    [22:48:10] 	Common request.
    [22:48:14] 	Not sure what the answer is.
    [22:48:21] 	There's probably an extension somewhere.
    [22:48:23] 	DanielTahar: they don't use a wiki.
    [22:48:25] 	* It's &preload= not &Preload= sometimes case can break things
    [22:48:53] 	ah, yes, fullurl, not localurl
    [22:48:54] 	sorry
    [22:49:25] 	And the ?action=edit&Preload=Template:NewItem should actually be action=edit&preload=Template:NewItem as a second parameter to the parserfunction
    [22:49:38] 	03(mod) Localised name for Korean Wikiquote - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14157  +comment (10acc611)
    [22:49:51] 	Dantman|FS: fullurl supports that. does localurl too?
    [22:49:59] 	[{{fullurl:$1|action=edit&preload=Template:NewItem}} link text]
    [22:50:08] 	(i though it did, but the examples i found on-wiki seems to suggest otherwise)
    [22:50:09] 	It should but what did I say about localurl?
    [22:51:36] 	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/CoreParserFunctions.php?revision=35098&view=markup
    [22:51:46] 	Same basic code
    [22:52:01] 	All 4 of them support it
    [22:52:53] 	ok, let's say something else. I got over that, and can get it to work through an EXTERNAL url; however, if there's a SPACE in the search term, it thinks the first part is the link and the other is the description... should i use that URLENCODER thing?
    [22:54:20] 	{{urlencode:}} but before you do that, you should try adding a prefix to the interwiki map instead
    [22:56:04] 	interwiki map? i added the http://domain.com and it added "/projectname/..." what are you refering to?
    [22:56:43] 	$1 is something you need in the url
    [22:57:29] 	What do you do when your gigantic half-robot battleship space-folds and ends up on the other side of pluto, leaving the fold engine behind back at earth, and you accidentally took civilian shelters with you and deposited them in space allong with part of the ocean? ^_^ build a civilian city inside of your battleship.. rotfl
    [22:59:39] 	wait... ok, again... sorry. so, I have $1, which is search_term. So, I type in a line, with "http://www.domain.com/domain/index.php?title=$1&action=edit&preload=Template:template_name". This works good, as long as the search term is with no spaces. works exactly like i wanted it to. Question is how do I tweak it to work with a space
    [22:59:52] 	Also keep in mind i'm not using any "["'s, just typing in a plain http thing
    [22:59:56] 	and it converts it to a link for me
    [23:01:33] 	Just urlencode it....
    [23:02:51] 	GOT IT!
    [23:03:27] 	http://www.projectr.com/project/index.php?title={{urlencode:$1}}&action=edit&preload=Template:Templatename
    [23:05:33] 	giddiup
    [23:05:37] 	DanielTahar: shouldn't {{fullurl:$1|action=edit|preload=Template:Templatename}} give you the same thing more nicely?
    [23:06:54] 	03siebrand * r35335 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (32 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-05-26 00:59 CEST)
    [23:08:00] 	it doesn't add the preload for some reason
    [23:12:42] 	maybe it needs to be &preload, not |preload
    [23:12:52] 	though i would have thought using individual parameters would work
    [23:14:10] 	03siebrand * r35336 10/trunk/extensions/ (56 files in 53 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-05-26 00:59 CEST)
    [23:15:29] 	What are the key terms for my watchlist and my contributions? (the history tab is #ca-history, etc)
    [23:15:43] 	for the .css
    [23:18:00] 	ok another one. how can i place the "search" box in the body of a page?
    [23:24:51] 	can i get rid of all the language files except english without breaking anything?
    [23:25:49] 	You'll break user preference
    [23:26:05] 	Disk space is cheap
    [23:26:25] 	(in most cases, not all)
    [23:27:09] 	why would people need to see their interface in a different language than the content?
    [23:27:30] 	mark which ones do i have to keep?
    [23:28:56] 	why wouldn't they, yoris?
    [23:29:02] 	and what is the point of removing them?
    [23:29:22] 	how can i embbed a external image?
    [23:30:01] 	!externalimages | trigun0x2 
    [23:30:01] --mwbot--	trigun0x2: To allow images from elsewhere to be included in your wiki, see . To limit this to some specific sources, see .
    [23:30:04] 	because they are 20 mb diskspace + 7*20mb for daily backup rotation + 5*20mb for weekly backup rotation + 20 mb for every month
    [23:30:06] 	mark: I wonder what the longest the best disk can last just sitting their at room temp with no use?
    [23:30:13] 	you know, to archive
    [23:30:24] 	Thanks
    [23:30:27] 	Welcome.
    [23:31:00] 	then you could play around with temperature
    [23:31:12] 	Yoris: you have a backup scheme in which 140mb is meaningful?
    [23:31:24] 	especially 140mb of text?
    [23:31:30] 	so i type $wgAllowExternalImages = true;
    [23:31:34] 	to localsettings?
    [23:31:34] 	...and which copies unchanged files every run?
    [23:31:37] 	yeah it's just a small site man, no fucking wikipedia :)
    [23:31:44] 	fix the real problem then :)
    [23:31:48] 	*boggle*
    [23:31:55] 	backups are meant to make your life easier, not to cause more problems
    [23:32:01] 	trigun0x2: Yes, somewhere near the bottom. I suggest adding a new section like "Custom settings" to keep track of what you changed.
    [23:32:08] 	alright
    [23:32:10] 	yoris : sounds like "false optimization" to me, ymmv.
    [23:32:20] 	also i lost the top toolbar when i edit stuff
    [23:32:23] 	why false?
    [23:32:31] 	like with the picture and i can click to add stuff
    [23:32:42] 	because it's a waste of time, diverges your version of mediawiki from the mainline, etc. et.c
    [23:32:59] 	and you don't really get a meaninful win from it
    [23:33:10] 	(unless, I guess, you are running on some really ancient hardware)
    [23:33:22] 	well if you say i can remove the files without breaking anything it wuoldn't waste more time than about 1 minute
    [23:33:35] 	and yoris, in the future
    [23:33:40] 	when someone needs those languages
    [23:33:46] 	and you add them back in
    [23:33:49] 	and blah blah blah
    [23:33:49] 	trigun0x2: You had it before and it disappeared?
    [23:33:50] 	and it's more ancient webhost with limited diskspace than ancient hardware :)
    [23:33:50] 	diverging from mainline dist for the lose.
    [23:34:01] 	after i transfered it's gone
    [23:34:04] 	www.eflourishes.com
    [23:34:09] 	but if it's relelvant, remove them and see what happens :)
    [23:35:00] 	derwin, i don't know where a potential problem would surface so that sounds like a bad idea, i can't test all features
    [23:35:13] 	Yoris: I think that's what I was saying :)
    [23:36:03] 	but isn't there anyone here that knows because of the structure of the code?
    [23:36:23] 	trigun0x2: How did you move the wiki?
    [23:37:28] 	transfer db and transfer files
    [23:37:29] 	directly
    [23:38:50] 	hi
    [23:38:57] 	bye
    [23:38:57] 	trigun0x2: Try skimming through , and see if there's something you missed.
    [23:39:06] 	nope
    [23:39:34] 	the wiki works fine
    [23:39:39] 	is there a program that will transform a mediaiki document into XML?
    [23:41:30] 	!xml | mohbana
    [23:41:30] --mwbot--	mohbana: I don't know anything about "xml". You might try: !domdocument 
    [23:41:35] 	!export | mohbana
    [23:41:35] --mwbot--	mohbana: To export pages from a wiki, navigate to Special:Export on the wiki, type in the names of the pages to export, and hit "export". See  for an example of this form. See also: !import
    [23:42:06] 	i am looking for an external library
    [23:42:12] 	derwin: That generates XML, but for export of the wikitext and meta data instead of the document content.
    [23:42:14] 	for off-line use
    [23:42:37] 	mohbana, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Data_formats ?
    [23:42:46] 	Pathoschild thanks for the help
    [23:42:49] 	I'm gonna go for now
    [23:42:52] 	Thanks@
    [23:42:53] *Pathoschild 	waves.
    [23:42:54] 	thanks!
    [23:44:01] 	03(NEW) Make review log useable. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14265 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (Complexwikipedia)
    [23:53:07] 	Yoris: Something like rdiff-backup would serve you much better... Even if you remove the language files there is plenty of unchanged things to backup. a diff based backup system will save you bandwidth to
    [23:53:36] 	Yoris: And besides... You really don't need to backup everything. All you need is your settings and extensions. Everything else is inside of SVN and you don't need it backed up.
    [23:56:50] 	is there a hook that runs at the end of the page's content?
    [23:57:19] 	i need a 3rd party library
    [23:57:59] 	as in i click the edit page ... take the source which i use in my program and write it out in XML
    [23:58:02] 	oh btw, you should tell people to backup their custom SpecialPages in the includes directory when upgrading mediawiki, now it just says to backup the extensions directory
    [23:59:14] 	Yoris, there should be no custom files in the includes/ directory.
    [23:59:22] 	All files relating to custom special pages should be in extensions/.