[00:18:15] CIA not reporting commits to branches eh? [00:24:35] 03(mod) View contributions / recentchanges for an IP range - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1035 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [00:27:24] why do i have a 40MB mail in mediawiki-cvs? [00:27:49] Fetching message... 8.3M/40M (20%) [00:29:33] Dantman: i think you did it wrong [00:29:41] branching shouldn't add new files, it should just show up as 'copied' [00:32:05] meh well... can't change that now [00:34:09] 03(NEW) Special pages on kk.wikipedia doesn' t reflect interface language changes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14351 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (wiki.bugzilla) [00:35:37] 03(mod) No possibility to patrol from Special:Contributions/newbies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13181 summary (10Wiki.Melancholie) [00:36:16] ^_^ Blame it on the vcs... If vcs projects actually collabourated on a single system, we might end up with something that can actually handle branching without needing to duplicate content or handle branched things outside of the copy we already have [00:37:22] 03(mod) Special pages on kk.wikipedia don' t reflect interface language changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14351 summary (10wiki.bugzilla) [00:40:10] 03(NEW) No possibility to patrol from Special:Contributions/user - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14352 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Patroller; (Wiki.Melancholie) [00:42:40] 03(mod) Show only other people's edits on Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12467 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [00:46:20] Is there any way to check for global usernames using the API? [00:48:22] sox: check in what way? [00:48:28] hi [00:48:53] check if a name is registered globally, even if it doesn't yet exist on the wiki of the API you are querying? [00:49:16] I don't want other people editing my wiki. Only I the fuhrer and edit thy wiki ;o [00:49:33] So how do I restrict access from those friggin serfs? ;o [00:49:52] take away their pitchforks [00:49:54] can* sorry, bad english [00:50:07] Splarka, correct [00:50:08] their pitchforks are no match for machine guns and tanks [00:50:18] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [00:50:20] $wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['createaccount'] = false; [00:50:27] etc [00:50:27] how sexy of you [00:50:31] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights [00:50:40] want to go to my apartment? [00:50:51] I'm running a bot to check [[WP:CHU]] if someone exists, but it is marking global usernames as nonexistent [00:50:58] !userrights } ZFN [00:50:58] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [00:51:17] *Splarka smacks Soxred93 for repeating [00:51:27] and you didn't pipe right ^_^ [00:51:44] Soxred93: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/ca.php has a list, at the moment at least [00:51:57] Do I have to ADD that string for "grouppermissions" if it isnt in my localsettings.php file? :O [00:51:59] I know. [00:53:16] Splarka, how often is that list updated? [00:53:22] live [00:53:23] Real time? [00:53:32] afaik [00:53:57] hmm [00:54:19] you could check the user creation log, but that wouldn't be completely trustworthy (well, maybe?) [00:54:36] eg, look for 'automatic user creation' or whatever it is (but localization might get ya) [00:55:09] ZFN: yes, add them [00:55:31] thanks babe =-* [00:57:19] hi [00:57:47] Btw [00:57:53] I think I should tell you who I am :D [00:58:07] I got over my childish idiocracy.. this is DIFTOW [00:58:09] http://jurassicparkmod.com/site/w/index.php5?title=Main_Page [00:58:19] I made my wiki work for me :D [00:58:24] 03(NEW) No easy way to patrol newly created redirects properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14353 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Patroller; (Wiki.Melancholie) [00:58:31] im very happy with mediawiki [00:58:46] Is Extension:ContactPage secure without a captcha system? [00:58:57] TTYL [00:59:00] TY <3 [01:00:09] Dantman: svn _can_ branch without copying - that's why i said you did it wrong ;) [01:00:26] (in fact, most SCMs can do that; i think CVS is the only major one that can't) [01:01:40] Eh? Last time I checked it was the other way around... svn branches by copying... CVS was the one with tags [01:01:59] it doesn't really "copy". it looks like it does, but actually it just adds a reference to the original file [01:02:28] much quicker than manually copying and re-adding - only takes a few seconds [01:04:42] Bleh... [01:08:30] Can you specify _any_ email address on $wgContactSender = 'apache@' . $wgServerName; (Extension:ContactPage)? [01:28:29] hi all, i would like to know if with mediawiki ajax function is possible to have a static window like the ones of gmail chat that appear near of clock. So even if we scroll up or down the page, the window will be static [01:28:46] ? [01:28:46] you don't need ajax for that, just css [01:28:52] position: fixed; or something like that [01:29:16] the window will be static, like gmail chat ones [01:29:32] i'll be able to open a new link [01:29:37] and the window will be there [01:29:44] understand? [01:30:22] Useful in gmail as it is all private, but on an open wiki, how do you share links with someone if the URL never changes? [01:31:14] the url will change, but the static window will be there [01:31:18] is it possible? [01:31:31] think in something: [01:32:03] look this http://www.gizmogarden.com/index.php/Ajax_whos_online [01:32:18] when you mouseover on a contact and click on chat [01:32:23] will open a window [01:32:40] but i can't go to other links without close the chat window [01:33:03] so it's because it i would like something like gmail chat and facebook chat [01:33:34] i just would like to know if is possible with mediawiki ajax function [01:33:53] the guy who is developing the extension is using google web toolkit [01:35:07] it's interesting have a static window for notification too [01:35:49] so will be not necessary go to top of page to see if has notifications [01:35:53] for chat [01:36:35] anyone? [01:37:21] i'm chatting with IP 17.202 [01:37:28] is from someone here? [01:39:35] hi flyingparchment [01:50:21] Hi Splarka [01:52:26] Does anyone know how I assign a category (a semantic wiki category) to all pages in a template, for example all user: pages? More important, how do I set that for the default template? I basically want to have ALL pages to be part of a certain (semantic forms) category [01:52:40] ? [01:52:46] "all pages in a template" ? [01:52:49] syntax error [01:52:52] eheh [01:52:52] sorry [01:52:54] well [01:53:17] let's put it this way... I want to edit the "default" page for a certain template, i.e. all pages which start with "USER:" [01:54:41] you probably mean all pages in a namespace [01:54:49] templates are transclusions [01:55:46] that is correct i guess [01:56:09] so, you want each namespace to have a default outline when creating it? [01:56:37] when creating a page in it, that is [01:56:38] well, the truth is i want to eventually only use one space; but for all other purposes, yes [01:57:18] do you have the parserFunctions extension installed? [01:59:01] Hmmm... perhaps Special:ListGroupRights shouldn't list rights on groups if they are also on a native group (*, user), or listed in autoconfirmed if that group has autoconfirmed set [01:59:14] This kind of info isn't that usefull: http://dev.wiki-tools.com/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights [01:59:16] DanielTahar: {{#switch: {{NAMESPACE}}|Talk = etc|User = etc [01:59:28] wait... what are the ETC's? [01:59:50] DanielTahar: what you want it to show when in that namespace [01:59:52] Alex: helps if he answers if he has parserfunctions installed [02:00:31] DanielTahar: have you installed http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions [02:00:39] i will install em [02:00:59] DanielTahar: okay then what I said will work :) [02:01:00] the easiest way to do what you want is something like this... [02:02:52] DanielTahar: easiest way to install is svn co http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions while in the extensions directory [02:03:52] ok lemme try [02:03:53] on MediaWiki:Newarticletext [02:03:55] {{#switch:-{{NAMESPACE}} [02:03:55] |-|-User|-Template|-MediaWiki=Please [{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=edit&preload=Template:Namespaces/ns{{NAMESPACE}}&editintro=Template:Namespaceinstructions/ns{{NAMESPACE}}}} click here] to preload a template for this page. [02:03:55] #default=}} [02:04:00] for example [02:04:24] then you'd create the template for a new page for each new namespace at Template:Namespaces/ns for main, Template:Namespaces/nsUser for user, Template:Namespaces/nsTemplate for template namespace, etc [02:04:42] (strictly opt-in version mind you, with Javascript you could automate it) [02:05:20] do I need to install something for parserfunctions to be working? [02:06:04] sorry please ignore [02:07:28] by putting it in the Newarticletext message, it appears whenever someone is editing a new page, until they click the preload link you give them, then that info is replaced by the template called in the editintro parameter [02:08:13] Template:Namespaceinstructions/ns might contain "This is a template for the main namespace... yadda yadda", Template:Namespaceinstructions/nsUser might be "This is a user page, if it is yours then you can use it for your personal space. If it is someone elses, then you probably shouldn't be messing with it" [02:08:45] you could even detect against {{SUBPAGENAME}} matching monobook.css/.js for special instructions on those [02:13:49] 03river * r35628 10/trunk/tools/planet/en/config.ini: +Wikimedia Toolserver [02:14:51] wait... did anyone ever set up sematic forms? i think my questions are specific to that [02:15:11] I've got it running [02:15:27] SMW and SF are enabled by default on all my wiki [02:15:51] ok, so here's what I want to accomplish. I want each company on my wiki to have a page; I want each new page to be editable using forms (preferably ONLY); I'm kinda lost [02:16:21] ew [02:17:11] *Splarka calls for the segregation of semantic*() to #mediawiki-seman ... perhaps with little yellow triangles on their sleeves... [02:17:15] *Splarka hides [02:18:02] you're killin' me here [02:18:23] Dantman can probably help you, but not many others [02:18:23] You know... SF isn't meant to be that absolute [02:18:40] You're not going to force new pages to be created by form [02:19:07] Not only is it rude and ugly... It'll also break things if you want to create actual pages [02:19:31] that's no good [02:19:32] Best option is to put a link to the correct AddPage in the sidebar [02:19:32] well [02:19:34] there were some experiments with restricting creation of new pages in a namespace to form-controlled only (but freely editable afterwards) on Wikia... [02:19:43] *Splarka not sure what happened with it [02:20:20] well, what I want is to let people create, and edit, pages using a simple form, so they don't need to go through the entire hassle of learning the syntax -- even if it's just for bold and italics. Why is that not possilbe? [02:20:32] That is possible... [02:20:42] But you're not supposed to force it on them like an evil dictator [02:20:49] kinda defeats the purpose of using mediawiki a bit [02:20:52] Give them the ability to do that, but don't force them [02:21:01] That's where sidebar links come in [02:21:21] Or you could even add a link to the nonexistant page error [02:21:37] newarticletext, noarticletext, no search results, etc [02:21:40] And a link to the top of the edit page during page creation suggesting that they can edit with a simpler for [02:27:10] 03(mod) Interproject links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 high->highest; +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [02:34:39] What's the setting for adding (a similar) "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"? [02:35:13] #siteSub { display: block; } [02:35:17] [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] [02:35:49] thanks [02:36:34] 03dantman * r35629 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [02:36:34] Improve default groups for special pages: 23 out of 29 remaining ungrouped pages have been grouped. This leaves us with only 6 stragglers. [02:36:34] + pages (For page lists like Allpages, Redirect lists, random pages, and other special pages listing or pointing to certain pages) [02:36:34] + pagetools (For tools used to work on pages such as page movement, importing/exporting pages, and anything to do with (un)deleteion or history management of pages) [02:36:38] + wiki (For special pages which list or modify data about the wiki and/or it's software such as Wiki statistics, Software version, Locking/Unlocking the database, and listing software messages) [02:36:41] - Preferences and password resets also moved to users. [02:43:45] 03dantman * r35630 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: [02:43:45] Add a message for a 'Spam tools' group. [02:43:45] Many extensions fall under this category, however there isn't a single one which would dominate this category. [02:43:45] It's best to localize this one inside of core to avoid multiple extensions [02:43:45] trying to localize the same message, or worse, different id's with the same [02:43:46] 03(NEW) Prefix "Wikipedia:" leads to enwiki if project namespace is diffenent from "Wikipedia" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14354 minor; normal; Wikimedia: Interwiki links; (Wiki.Melancholie) [02:43:49] purpose. And ending up duplicating translations, with some lagging behind and [02:43:51] potentially overriding newer translations in other extensions. [02:59:02] I'm editing mediawiki:noexactmatch, and set a new string to edit a non-existant page; it's a full URL. So, if i'm searching for "ABC", it works perfect -- I get a link titled "EDIT THIS PAGE", which links to the URL I want; however, if the serach term has a space in it, it screws it up. What's the syntax for making it treat the $1 parameter as a URL (ie, replace spaces w/ _'s)? [02:59:26] Bleh... regexBlock and spamRegex are still using the old method of special page adding [02:59:44] 03(mod) secure.wikimedia.org has interwiki links to insecure sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5440 (10cesarb) [02:59:54] try {{fullurl:}} instead of the full url, that escapes spaces [02:59:55] What the..... SMW is doing it to [02:59:58] or maybe {{urlencode:}} [03:00:10] And in an even uglier way [03:00:20] SF* [03:01:04] [http://something.ext/index.php?title=foo bar baz] vs [http://something.ext/index.php?title={{urlencode:foo bar}} baz] [03:01:19] thanks [03:01:29] naaa, the urlencode is exactly what i was looking for [03:03:13] 03dantman * r35631 10/trunk/extensions/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Adding special page groups to a number of extensions. [03:07:12] 03dantman * r35632 10/trunk/extensions/SimpleAntiSpam/SimpleAntiSpam.i18n.php: PHP Syntax error... [03:07:32] Bleh... that one killed my wiki [03:08:15] Eh? Special:UploadWindow ... Great, unlocalized special page from some random extension I have installed [03:15:40] 03(NEW) Vandal bypassing autoconfirm threshold of 10 edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14355 normal; normal; Wikimedia: wikibugs; (royalguard11) [03:17:09] 03tstarling * r35633 10/trunk/extensions/BoardVote/ (BoardVote_body.php GoToBoardVote_body.php): Add CentralAuth compatibility. [03:18:15] 14(INVALID) Vandal bypassing autoconfirm threshold of 10 edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14355 +comment (10nakonwiki) [03:22:39] 03dantman * r35634 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (SMW_GlobalFunctions.php SMW_SpecialPage.php): [03:22:39] Group more of SMW's SpecialPages. [03:22:39] Depreciate the bad use of SpecialPage::setGroup and use $wgSpecialPageGroups instead. [03:23:02] Dantman: You mean deprecate. [03:23:07] Depreciate means something else. [03:25:30] worth less, instead of worthless ^_^ [03:27:05] Bleh.... Well... IMHO I just want to remove that input altogether... Though, that might wait till a later commit [03:28:11] Bah... SMW is hardcoding text in the SMWAdmin special page [03:30:31] Eeeewww..... SF programmers are idiots [03:31:05] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php?revision=35540&view=markup [03:31:59] They check version (instead of function_exists) to see if the wfLoadExtensionMessages is enabled.... And then, they go and execute wfLoadExtensionMessages inside of a ExtensionFunction [03:32:57] There's absolutely no message loading benifit there... They're basically short-circuting message loading and treating a cleaner system like it's the old one [03:39:57] 03(NEW) Moving user subpages is not rate limited - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14356 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (nakonwiki) [03:42:37] 03(NEW) Semantic Forms short-circuts the new wfLoadExtensionMessages system and tests incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14357 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (dan_the_man) [03:45:28] 03(NEW) Allow cascaded pages to be semi-protected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14358 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page protection; (chenzhengwei2002) [04:06:04] 03aaron * r35635 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.class.php FlaggedRevsPage.php): [04:06:04] * Avoid more include diff cache misses [04:06:04] * Purge template uses as needed [04:06:04] * Stable include selection cleanup and fixes [04:06:04] * Remove count duplication. Just call the count function to trigger caching. [04:06:06] * Rename var to $srev, and remove some underscores in vars [04:08:21] 03aaron * r35636 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.class.php: Remove debug lines [04:48:00] 03aaron * r35637 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Group under 'page', in light of r35629 [04:56:04] 03aaron * r35638 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.class.php: Move this return up [04:59:46] hmm, is it just me, or does mediawiki.org seem to show up very low in Google? I'll often try to search for a MW variable or setting on Google hoping the MW documentation will come up, but it usually doesn't [05:00:14] for example, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&hs=Wwd&q=wgMiserMode&btnG=Search [05:19:08] 03(NEW) Problems with statistics in Sakha Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14359 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (halan) [05:19:53] 03(mod) Problems with statistics in Sakha Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14359 (10halan) [05:32:51] 03(mod) Vandal bypassing autoconfirm threshold of 10 edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14355 (10royalguard11) [05:34:24] how do I do to block anon user of article? [05:35:01] 03(mod) Moving user subpages is not rate limited - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14356 (10mrzmanwiki) [05:35:20] 03(mod) Moving user subpages is not rate limited - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14356 +need-review +patch (10mrzmanwiki) [06:03:04] 03dale * r35639 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (8 files in 3 dirs): flowplayer stubs for mv_embed ~stjepanr [06:23:54] I have a question regarding my Special:Recentchanges page. [06:24:10] So ask it. :) [06:24:11] Despite changing my user preferences or leaving them the same, I can't get it to show anything other than the first 50 edits. [06:24:26] The furthest back it is going is May 23rd [06:24:48] Even when you click the links at the top of RecentChanges? [06:24:52] I'm using the most stable release [06:24:59] Show last 50 | 100 | 250 | 500 | 1,000 changes in last 1 | 3 | 7 | 14 | 30 days [06:25:00] Yup, even when changing the options at the top to reflect 500 changes in the last 30 days [06:25:05] http://gaming.skel3tor1.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges [06:25:07] Try it for yourself [06:25:26] I've tried two different computers and firefox & internet explorer. [06:25:27] maybe there are only 50 in the table [06:25:40] Why would it be limited to just the 50? There have been prior edits. [06:25:59] edits don't stay in the RC table perpetually, they are purged [06:26:32] Would that same table use the special contributions page ? [06:26:56] no [06:27:01] That page based on user contributions shows a users edits clear back to May 17ths [06:27:27] Special:Contributions shows all (non-deleted anyway) edits [06:27:53] Is there a place where one can modify that table being purged or to purge it less frequently ? [06:28:30] 03(mod) Special:ListUsers returning without results. Empty GET parameter. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14348 (10fsidler) [06:28:52] $wgRCMaxAge [06:29:56] see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRCMaxAge [06:30:10] Yup, reading it now [06:30:44] having a smaller recent changes table is more efficient for aggregated changes [06:31:17] recent changes, related changes, watchlist changes, new page creations, checkuser data, and other things that would be slower to get from the database on the fly [06:32:13] things like single page history or single user contributions intersect with existing indexes that are easier to query [06:34:19] Thanks for the help MZMcBride & Splarka. [06:34:30] ra [06:34:32] *MZMcBride did nothing... [06:34:51] You attempted :P [07:45:31] *ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh* [07:45:33] *NicDumZ dances [07:45:56] it looks like a raindance, but it's a logindance [07:46:53] *holy god, make me fix the broken pywpbot login* [07:47:29] *do not thunderstruck us for still relying on the API, not yet* [07:47:54] (not relying) [07:48:45] (it's not funny. Singing and dancing altogether is quite hard :/ ) [07:50:48] Nic: the normal site-specific login cookies don't work for yar bot? [07:51:12] and your robot can't wrap its python brain around global? [07:54:20] not *yet*, but that's because I'm stupid :) [07:56:30] for a few days, the normal login procedure does not work anymore, yes. I cant get that Token cookie. Working on that, we found https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14347 with Bryan, but heh, I need to fix it, yes. [07:57:03] <_wooz> lo [08:03:13] 03(NEW) Problems with statistics in Erzya Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14360 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (reg) [08:08:29] Puh, I have a strange image dupe ... take a look at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Honest_Eds_at_Bathurst_and_Bloor.jpg [08:08:50] it is listed but not linked at Special:FileDuplicateSearch [08:09:22] on the image description page is a html entity in the file name [08:09:33] and finally - the image doesn't exist apparently [08:10:41] 03shinjiman * r35640 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Old/Late Time Chinese [08:13:34] *AaronSchulz gets "find a fling" facebook ads [08:15:30] 03nikerabbit * r35641 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesZh_classical.php MessagesZh_hans.php): [08:15:30] * Fixing syntax errors [08:15:30] One should run either 1) rebuild messages or 2) php -l to check syntax errors before doing manual commits [08:15:47] cie is not reporthing anything [08:16:51] ops, was scrolled up [08:17:23] codeispoetry: so all happy with .mw-rollback-link a[href*="from=Church+of+emacs"] {display:none;} and such? [08:17:43] er, wait, that was churchofemacs, [08:17:44] Splarka: dunno, i need the self rollback ;) [08:18:00] *Splarka hates you 3 word guys, all look the same [08:18:02] yeah, we know that's a problem [08:18:22] *Splarka grins [08:18:41] why isn't popular pages grouped? [08:19:29] codeispoetry: Image:Honest Ed's.jpg [08:19:56] doesn't exist [08:20:12] indeed [08:20:15] it is a bad title too [08:20:30] What the hell is PH=deleted; meant to mean in cookie strings... [08:20:32] but it was uploaded once [08:21:02] I can't link to the log for it though [08:21:04] except via: [08:21:05] http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&offset=20071026171559&user=Flickr+upload+bot&limit=1 [08:21:21] Splarka: omg [08:21:41] that's quite awful. [08:21:57] I am not sure how to check when it was deleted, haha [08:22:01] so the dupe list shows a deleted file [08:22:16] well, it might not have been deleted, or deletable [08:22:29] because maybe it became a bad title before it was deleted [08:23:00] http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AUndelete&prefix=Image%3AHonest+Ed%26apos%3Bs.jpg doesn't give anything [08:23:07] well [08:23:10] are you a commons admin? [08:23:14] sure [08:23:16] try checking that bot's deleted contribs [08:23:19] see if it has a date [08:23:22] k [08:24:12] Image:Broken/Honest Ed\x26apos\x3bs\x2ejpg [08:24:50] indeed, there it is [08:26:24] 03nikerabbit * r35642 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * Use plural, some language may need it [08:26:56] codeispoetry: what date and what user deleted it? [08:27:10] 00:04, 29. Feb. 2008 EVula (Diskussion | Beiträge | Sperren) hat „Image:Broken/Honest Ed\x26apos\x3bs\x2ejpg\ldblquote gelöscht ‎ (bizarre page, no content, marked as duplicate image) [08:27:37] heh [08:27:55] sry, wrong language ;) [08:30:29] okay: [08:30:30] http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&offset=20080228230501&user=EVula&limit=2 [08:30:55] so when was it moved.... [08:31:21] http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Image:Broken/Honest_Ed%5Cx26apos%5Cx3bs%5Cx2ejpg [08:31:54] however, deleted contributions say: 18:15, 26. Okt. 2007 . . Flickr upload bot (Diskussion | Beiträge | Sperren) (uploaded "Image:Honest Ed's.jpg": Uploaded from http://flickr.com/photo/68379435@N00/448528482 using User:Flickr upload bot) [08:32:03] right... [08:32:38] and there is no possibility to get the log of the old name [08:32:49] indeed [08:33:19] one could check the move log between the two dates ^_^ [08:33:28] 03nikerabbit * r35643 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: * mmm, trying to be a bit more informative than just "pages". Goes a bit over the maintenance category though... [08:33:31] only 4 months [08:37:12] Splarka: there's no possibility to move files [08:37:23] no, but you can move pages [08:37:32] mhm [08:37:41] yeah [08:38:09] but there is no deleted revision with the move [08:38:33] right [08:38:42] well, that deleted revision would be the mover's, not the bot's [08:39:02] however, there is no move log for the page [08:39:07] I checked all of october-march [08:39:12] so it was dev moved, most likely [08:39:19] the deleted revisions are [08:39:20] # (Unterschied) 13:52, 6. Feb. 2008 . . Skeezix1000 (Diskussion | Beiträge | Sperren) (555 Bytes) [08:39:20] # (Unterschied) 18:15, 26. Okt. 2007 . . Flickr upload bot (Diskussion | Beiträge | Sperren) (uploaded "Image:Honest Ed's.jpg": Uploaded from http://flickr.com/photo/68379435@N00/448528482 using User:Flickr upload bot) [08:39:20] # (Unterschied) 18:15, 26. Okt. 2007 . . Flickr upload bot (Diskussion | Beiträge | Sperren) (523 Bytes) (Adding license information) [08:39:20] # (Unterschied) 18:14, 26. Okt. 2007 . . Skeezix1000 (Diskussion | Beiträge | Sperren) (461 Bytes) (Preparing upload using User:Flickr upload bot) [08:39:29] only four, no move. [08:39:35] hmmm [08:41:29] ok, the real problem is that the file is still listed as a dupe. i would think the dev who moved the page forgot to delete/move the file [08:44:03] another problem is that Special:FileDuplicateSearch doesn't escape the file names [08:44:15] as you may see at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:FileDuplicateSearch/Honest_Eds_at_Bathurst_and_Bloor.jpg [08:44:24] puh, two bugs. awful morning. [08:44:40] you wouldn't say that if you worked as an exterminator [08:54:58] 03btongminh * r35644 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUserlogin.php: Add wpSkipCookieCheck to allow bots to skip the cookie check [09:15:11] I am currently running 1.10.4 and I am thinking of upgrading to the latest 1.12.x release.. Any issues I should be aware of? [09:16:10] not really [09:27:14] 03river * r35645 10/trunk/tools/tsutils/acctexp/acctexp.c: - allow root to view the expiry date of another user's account [09:27:23] 03(mod) Enable upload for administrators and set correct time zone in Hungarian Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14343 normal->high (10bdanee88) [09:52:53] 03(mod) No easy way to patrol newly created redirects properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14353 +comment (10dungodung) [09:54:11] 03(NEW) Category usage counter seems broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14361 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (wikipedia.kawaii.neko) [10:12:47] 04(REOPENED) Kazakh i18n updates for extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7971 (10alefzet) [10:14:55] I couldn't find this on the website: After a default installation. The search function in mediawiki doesn't find the acronym used in a title of an article. "RDP". How can I make sure Mediawiki searches even small words of even 3 letters long and in titles. [10:15:32] I understand searching for small words may be prohibited to limit load on the system. but for my use case that shouldn't be an issue. [10:15:45] 03(mod) Kazakh i18n updates for extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7971 +comment (10alefzet) [10:18:30] hi quick question [10:18:59] finalbeta: The default MySQL search engine is limited to 3 characters, you can change this in your MySQL configuration file (if you have access to it). [10:19:34] what is the page to edit the stuff that shows up for everyone's watchlist? [10:20:45] MinuteElectron: I have access, when you say 3 characters, Mediawiki should have already found the word RDP in the title? [10:21:11] Cirt: MediaWiki:Watchlist-details ? [10:22:17] ah, thank you Splarka [10:23:05] finalbeta: No, it should not have. [10:23:38] i think you mean limited to 4 characters :) [10:23:46] fine then [10:24:24] finalbeta: See http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/fulltext-fine-tuning.html -- specificall the ft_min_word_len option. You might want to set that to 2. [10:25:01] MinuteElectron: Thank you for your help. Would have taken me ages to find that out. Was thinking it was a mediawiki setting. [10:25:17] you're welcome [10:27:17] 03shinjiman * r35646 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Old/Late Time Chinese [10:30:16] 03shinjiman * r35647 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [10:30:16] * (bug 7971) Localisation updates Kazakh for extension messages [10:30:16] patch by AlefZet [10:30:30] 03(FIXED) Kazakh i18n updates for extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7971 +comment (10shinjiman) [10:41:21] 04(REOPENED) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 (10alefzet) [10:43:17] 03(mod) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 +comment (10alefzet) [10:58:14] 03(FIXED) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 +comment (10shinjiman) [10:58:39] 03shinjiman * r35648 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesKk_arab.php MessagesKk_cyrl.php MessagesKk_latn.php): [10:58:39] * (bug 12145) Localisation updates Kazakh [10:58:39] patch by AlefZet [11:09:38] why are users called users? [11:09:47] if every user is a collaborator (should be) [11:10:28] because not every user is a collaborator, this isn't a perfect world [11:10:43] and user is more standard, collaborator is likely to cause confusion [11:10:49] why do they regiser, then? [11:10:56] preferences [11:10:58] watchlist [11:10:58] etc. [11:11:00] ow, okay [11:11:03] thank you [11:11:16] some wikis also use a single sign on system so that you share a forum account with wiki account [11:11:59] oic [11:12:18] Splarka, muahahah eventually login works again [11:14:35] also, not all collaborators are used [11:14:39] users [11:15:53] flyingparchment: oh? [11:18:02] IPs can collaborate ^_^ [11:19:07] hehe [11:20:06] howdie [11:20:22] I'm trying to import some wikipedia sql tables into mysql. [11:20:32] it takes quite a while for tables such as categorylinks [11:20:34] is that normal? [11:20:47] yes [11:20:49] they are big [11:24:14] Submarine, a full fr: import on my laptop took something like 30 or 40 hours to proceed [11:24:28]