[00:00:24] <^demon> AaronSchulz: Working perfectly now :-) [00:00:49] 03brion * r35831 10/trunk/extensions/UniversalEditButton/UniversalEditButton.php: $skin param on the hook isn't needed, and is new in 1.13. just take it off so it doesn't whine in 1.12 :) [00:01:40] ^demon: did you do $oldTime properly? [00:01:52] brion, is it ok that i commit that fix for icons then you revert it? or i should refrain from committing it? [00:02:10] it should be using time() - (some global) and using db->timestamp() and stuff [00:02:13] like recentchanges [00:03:49] alnokta: wait till after tim scaps at least ;) [00:04:10] alnokta, everyone sometimes commits things that break. They get reverted. [00:04:28] alnokta, it's best with CSS things to check in all the major browsers before committing. [00:04:31] 03siebrand * r35832 10/trunk/extensions/NewUserMessage/ (NewUserMessage.class.php NewUserMessage.php): [00:04:31] * add hook code to class file [00:04:31] * move 3 globals into class method. Could get rid of another ($wgNewUserMinorEdit) if renamed and default false. Would break backward compatibility, though [00:04:31] * fix big in 'description' in credits (page would never exist) [00:04:32] * bump version and date [00:04:35] Although I wouldn't have thought this would be a problem, geez. [00:04:47] I wonder what went wrong, exactly, with the background image. [00:04:53] I can't believe IE and FF where messed up [00:05:04] Does FF2 not support left-aligned background images on inline elements or something? [00:05:07] usually it's Safari or Opera or some browser nobody uses [00:05:10] :p [00:05:38] Well, Firefox 3 works, and I guess everyone was using that. :) [00:05:48] puh, silly devs [00:05:54] always using new beta software [00:06:01] It's the default on Hardy Heron! [00:06:02] Simetrical, i meant so not to annoy him, [00:06:04] *AaronSchulz is using FF 3 too [00:06:09] (although I was using it before then) [00:06:10] Heh. [00:06:16] so I can't really talk ;) [00:06:52] it looked like a problem with the padding to me [00:06:57] i didn't fiddle in detail [00:07:13] *Dantman|FS had issues with FF at one point and ended up upgrading to FF3 when he made a new profile [00:07:39] can someone comment on the actual benifit of a change like I made in r35832? Why are fewer globals a good thing, and does taking bytes from the file that loads when an extension is not used only save memory, or more? [00:08:20] brion, the padding looked correct to me, but in Fx2 the icons were on the wrong side. [00:08:49] I couldn't test properly because of course I would have to reinstall Firebug and set up a new profile etc. etc. etc. [00:08:51] Sigh. [00:08:57] (and I was too lazy, of course) [00:09:03] siebrand: you've made it vulnerable to register_globals exploits [00:09:31] brion: right. What does that mean, and how do I fix it? [00:09:34] you should always, *always* pre-set any global you use to ensure it can't be set by an attacker on sites with register_globals enabled [00:09:48] revert r35832 and you'll be safe again :) [00:10:10] good: $wgNewUserMessageEditor = 'Admin'; [00:10:14] brion: so I should not have taken the globals out of NewUserMessage.php, but splitting off the hook code is OK, or both are bad? [00:10:16] bad: not setting $wgNewUserMessageEditor [00:10:27] yes to 1 [00:10:31] and to 2 [00:10:37] splitting off code is usually good :) [00:10:45] though honestly i don't see a lot of code there [00:10:59] dunno if that one's worth the effort :) [00:11:09] siebrand, splitting things into files that are loaded only as needed saves not just memory but processing time, at least if no opcode cache is used. [00:11:18] brion: doing it with more code would definately had added a pointy hat to my collection:) [00:11:21] (Not sure if function declarations take up any processing time if an opcode cache is used.) [00:11:22] <^demon> AaronSchulz: $oldTime = $dbr->timestamp( strtotime( "-" . $wgActiveUserDays . " days" ) ); [00:11:24] ^_^ Though it's probably worth effort to fix SF [00:11:38] Eeek... short-circuted extension message loading [00:11:59] ^demon: I'd just rip of recentchanges.php [00:14:25] 03tstarling * r35833 10/trunk/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php: Fix and revert revert of 35819. is_writable() should apply to the parent, not the nonexistent new directory. [00:16:24] <^demon> AaronSchulz: Did it. Also, got confused because UTC time just clicked past midnight, so I was wondering why my last 30 day edit count had gone down :-P [00:16:48] 03aaron * r35834 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Tweak message [00:19:03] 03(NEW) Activate Extension:NewUserMessage on nds.Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14400 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (wiki) [00:19:08] What should I be using to test rtl stuff on my demo wiki? [00:19:43] Dantman|FS, all the major browsers. [00:19:45] Dantman|FS: a wiki set for an rtl language, like hebrew or arabic :) [00:19:53] and yeah... every browser you can find :P [00:19:54] Or "en-rtl". [00:19:55] good luck.... [00:19:57] I think that works. [00:20:18] 03siebrand * r35835 10/trunk/extensions/NewUserMessage/ (NewUserMessage.class.php NewUserMessage.php): Fix on r35832. Re-add pre-set of globals to prevent register_globals exploits. Thanks brion. [00:20:32] I have FF2, IE7, FF3, Opera, and Safari... For the most part I'm covered [00:21:22] I've tried &uselang=en-rtl, en_rtl, and enrtl but it doesn't seam to ever look different [00:21:43] 03aaron * r35836 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: special page group tweak [00:23:16] <^demon> AaronSchulz: Here's the new pastebin. I think I've got it right now :-) [00:23:17] <^demon> http://pastey.net/88897 [00:23:24] Oh right... ^_^ I have Amaya to... though lolifox doesn't count.... hey wait... Lolifox is based of FF2... sweet, I don't have to go and screw arround with icky FF stuff to test FF2 and FF3 at the same time [00:23:47] Dantman|FS, you could also use an older version of Epiphany, or anything that uses Gecko. [00:24:21] Dantman|FS, try setting $wgLanguageCode or whatever it is in LocalSettings. You want to change content language for this testing, not just interface language. [00:24:34] Mhmm... [00:25:01] I'm probably going to add a little domain tweak to my demo wiki... Probably http://rtl.dev.wiki-tools.com will show a rtl version [00:26:49] Awww crap... [00:26:56] ^demon: looks ok [00:26:59] damn disk space on the portable drive [00:27:55] how can i make certain pages (or an entire wiki) private? [00:28:25] !e LockDown [00:28:25] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LockDown [00:28:34] !secrets [00:28:34] --mwbot-- MediaWiki was not designed with read-restrictions in mind, and may not provide air-tight protection against unauthorized access. We will not be held responsible should private information, such as a password or bank details, be leaked, leading to loss of funds or one's job. [00:28:34] thanks [00:28:36] Windopain: $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false; [00:29:02] and also [00:29:13] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [00:30:43] 03(mod) New #lastedit parserfunction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14384 +comment (10tstarling) [00:32:15] Dantman|FS: [00:32:15] if(queryString('rtl') == '1') { [00:32:16] document.getElementsByTagName('html')[0].setAttribute('dir','rtl'); [00:32:16] importStylesheetURI(stylepath + '/' + skin + '/rtl.css?150'); [00:32:16] } [00:32:29] bah [00:32:39] (with the queryString function I use) [00:33:00] http://p.defau.lt/?MMd_V8VGIHE1ZQr6qPdYEg [00:33:03] If I did anything like that .... It would be a $_GET in localsettings [00:33:30] WFM [00:34:33] the problem is, $align is set in so many places... [00:35:03] http://www.google.com/codesearch?num=100&q=package%3Asvn.wikimedia.org%2Fsvnroot%2Fmediawiki%2Ftrunk+align+rtl [00:35:38] though I guess you could have isRtl() do a $wgRequest override check [00:35:49] (in fact, why doesn't it have that?) [00:43:48] $wgNamespacePermissionLockdown['*']['*'] = array('sysop'); does that restrict access to pages in all namespaces to everyone but admins? [00:45:28] 03nad * r35837 10/trunk/extensions/EmailArticle/ (EmailArticle.php EmailArticle_body.php): 1.1.0 - problem in group query [00:45:51] Windopain, you don't need to use Lockdown if you want to restrict all namespaces at once. Lockdown is only useful for per-namespace restrictions. [00:46:07] ah. [00:46:23] so $wgGRoupPermissions is the way to go then? [00:46:51] Windopain: yup [00:47:03] !wgWhitelistRead [00:47:03] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "wgwhitelistread". [00:47:31] how do you link those again [00:47:37] !link wgWhitelistRead [00:47:37] --mwbot-- You shouldn't do this, but since you asked: [00:47:45] !wg WhitelistRead [00:47:45] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgWhitelistRead [00:47:56] Simetrical: thanks [00:48:44] Windopain: you might also want to see that [00:49:29] !manual Preventing Access [00:49:29] --mwbot-- An introduction to using MediaWiki is at , see for information about copying it to your own wiki. More technical information for MediaWiki administrators is at . For an introduction on programming with MediaWiki, see . [00:49:39] *Alexfusco5 shoots mwbot [00:49:49] ok, thanks again [00:50:21] np :) [00:50:23] !preventingaccess [00:50:23] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access [00:50:41] i'm slowly learning here... i've found the learning curve of mediawiki to be much sharper than i expected. i probably would have given up if not for #mediawiki [00:50:44] Simetrical: once again, thanks [00:54:16] ahh need to see the login page eh [00:55:45] i haven't set wgWhitelistRead yet but i can still read the login page when logged out... I'll keep reading :) [00:58:24] 03(WONTFIX) New #lastedit parserfunction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14384 +comment (10tstarling) [00:59:50] Windopain: if you set $wgWhitelistRead = ('Special:UserLogin'); and $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false; $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false;$wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false; it should work :) [01:01:09] i have all of those set excep for $wgWhitelistRead = ('Special:UserLogin'); and it seems to be working [01:01:18] Mkay... http://rtl.dev.wiki-tools.com/wiki/Special:SpecialPages [01:01:48] TimStarling: whats the default setting for $wgWhitelistRead? [01:01:53] 03(NEW) Hotkeys in Safari Mac - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14401 minor; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (hartman) [01:02:28] Alexfusco5: false [01:02:41] thanks :) [01:02:44] *sigh* I really wish people would make an attempt to fix an extremely simple thing, before they go and make a large revert [01:02:46] hmm [01:03:09] Dantman|FS: what revert? [01:03:38] Dantman|FS: the link above it backwards, why? [01:03:44] maybe it has something to do with an extension that is installed [01:03:49] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialSpecialpages.php?r1=35670&r2=35787 [01:04:15] The issue seams fixed simply by putting a float: right; in place of the float: left; for rtl.css [01:04:44] revert the revert then [01:04:47] Dantman|FS: so r35787 reverted? [01:04:50] it doesn't take long [01:05:00] heh... for you... [01:05:03] *AaronSchulz braces for commit wars :) [01:05:15] Revisions aren't my thing in svn [01:05:20] let's see... [01:07:20] ok, where's this float? [01:08:33] 03(NEW) Allow noncritical and possibly repetitive API queries to be cached by &maxage URI parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14402 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (herd) [01:08:39] 03(mod) Hotkeys in Safari Mac - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14401 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [01:08:49] I suppose that's your job, but the revert didn't take long in my working copy [01:08:57] what svn client are you using? [01:10:48] Heh... TortoiseSVN... I use cli over ssh... but I don't do much, especially when it comes to reverts [01:11:03] I opened up a console in jEdit [01:11:53] well, to revert in TortoiseSVN, you go to the log page for the file in question, right click on the revision, and click "revert all changes from this revision" or words to that effect [01:12:19] O_O It actually has the ability to do that [01:12:21] to revert in plain subversion, you use: [01:12:31] svn merge -c -35787 SpecialSpecialpages.php [01:17:48] T_T I need a better computer [01:24:21] 03(mod) Hotkeys in Safari Mac - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14401 (10hartman) [01:27:32] O_o wft [01:27:34] wtf* [01:27:47] ack [01:27:50] Is "$user->getOption( 'showonline' )" the way to see if someone is online or not? [01:44:49] 03tstarling * r35838 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Database.php: Capture PHP errors from mysql_connect(). Apparently this is the only place connection errors are available in PHP 5.2.6. [01:47:14] 03tstarling * r35839 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/commandLine.inc: Use --wiki to specify the wiki ID (database name). Similar to the Wikimedia hack but applicable to all farm installations. Requires special handling in LocalSettings.php to transfer the MW_DB through to $wgDBname. [01:47:43] 03tstarling * r35840 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/getSlaveServer.php: Special-case debugging hack [01:48:38] 03tstarling * r35841 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (dumpBackup.php dumpTextPass.php): Don't break vim syntax highlighting [01:57:44] 03tstarling * r35842 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Disable hooks display in Special:Version by default. It's unnecessarily technical, usually useless, and may cause unintended leakage of information about anti-spam measures in use. [02:01:55] TimStarling: What about extension functions to? [02:07:13] I'm not too concerned about them [02:07:30] Is "$user->getOption( 'showonline' )" the way to see if someone is online or not? [02:15:12] where did you get that from? [02:15:26] Extension:OnlineStatus [02:16:03] so do you mean if it's installed, is that how? [02:16:18] or just generally? [02:16:49] Generally [02:17:02] I'm trying to make a parserfunction [02:17:10] no [02:17:19] there's no way to do it without an extension [02:17:33] How so? [02:17:41] MediaWiki is built to be scalable [02:17:59] what do you mean how so? it just isn't in there [02:18:32] Hmm [02:18:39] It doesn't have native functionality to track that kind of stuff because that would require every single request go through the script, and have extra queries for that data retrieval on every view [02:18:39] I'm trying to figure out how that extension does it [02:19:00] Probably just the normal way on page views [02:19:29] *Splarka hints that 14402 would do it pretty nicely, client-side via soft cached API queries [02:19:58] Splarka uses the third person just a little bit too much [02:20:11] *Splarka doesn't do that, that isn't something Splarka does [02:20:36] watched too much Bob Dole impersonation on SNL I guess [02:20:41] Interesting idea splarka [02:20:54] was discussed in -tech earlier [02:20:57] Though, you don't really even need the api js stuff [02:21:13] well, that would be a happy medium between 2 week caching and no caching [02:21:22] No I mean [02:21:50] yes, you could do it with or such, but the JS allows it to not even need an extension or parserfunction [02:22:26] we could write the script right now, but it would hit the backend API every page view for every user using it (ack) [02:22:45] All you'd need is some include into the page whatever you use, probably some link or something... And that's pointed at a lolcation with no-cache, which has the soul purpose of doing the tracking... it has no real content being passed arround, does extremely little, and everything else is cached... [02:22:54] so a &maxage=900&maxlag=5 would make it nice and safeish [02:23:38] ;) If you do it a special way... You can kill the need to connect to MW to do it all [02:24:00] That'll save a whole load of initialization time [02:24:57] eg, any page in ns-2 or ns-3 with getElementsByClassName(docObj,'span','user-status-indicator') array returning >0 would load a script to hit the API ucuser=a|b|c (all IDs, with a limit of say 50) and calculate their last contrib time, indicating in the span [02:25:18] eg [02:25:30] hmm, what location? [02:25:50] location? [02:35:31] can pages in namespaces that are protected with $wgNamespaceProtection be transcluded? [02:38:58] |Cobi|, Soxred93: how about an extension that adds a parser extension tag, like with whatever parameters... this then generates an tag, which is cached of course, for up to 2 weeks.. however, it calls in the src="" a script in the scriptpath/extensions, which generates the image (color based on last edit, no detailed math, just rough >1 hour, >1 day, >1 month time or such) [02:39:15] Cobi has already done it [02:39:17] the image tag could then have cache control headers of say, 15 minutes, and be more live updated than the page [02:39:26] But only for last edit [02:39:37] isn't he working on a parser function or such? [02:40:09] the results of a parser function are cached (as said) up to 2 weeks on wikimedia, barring &action=purge or edits [02:40:34] removing the live status' reliability on wikicode would prevent unneeded purging [02:40:54] It's in CoreParserFunctions [02:41:13] right [02:41:18] but #lastedit will not update every 15 minutes [02:41:26] it will update every 2 weeks, every purge, or every edit [02:41:37] is there any way to stop a page from being transcluded? [02:41:51] in a specific namespace (namespace wide)? [02:41:51] Smaug: by removing edit rights [02:41:59] to any user who doesn't have permission [02:42:15] Sox: but an embedded via extension *could* update more often, using custom cache control headers [02:42:27] i just tested a normal user on one of my wikis, and the account was able to transclude a Mediawiki: message [02:42:30] then the default 2 week squid cache would not be broken, but would also not apply [02:42:31] That is included, I believe [02:43:00] he's not still trying to have #lastedit return a timestamp? [02:43:09] Splarka: does $wgNamespaceProtection count as not having edit rights? [02:45:47] Splarka: if i $wgNamespaceProtection a namespace, and set a user's rights for editing that namespace to false, can they not transclude it? is that what you are saying? because I tested a normal user on one of my wikis, and the account was able to transclude MediaWiki:Mainpage [02:46:22] *my wiki (not one of my wikis. i have only one for now) [02:47:11] mediawiki doesn't yet allow that type of protection without a fragile extension [02:47:44] your best bet, if you want a lot of pages to be read-protected, is to make a second wiki that has no read or edit access at all, except for sysops, and give sysop status to those you trust [02:47:59] you can share user databases and installs, just have a separate LocalSettings [02:48:23] the namespace protection is only useful for restricting edit access [02:48:56] ok. can i have a separate wiki with a shared user database, where some namespaces are protected, and in the second wiki transclusions are completely allowed? [02:49:04] tranclusiosn compeltely disallowed [02:49:07] i mean [02:49:22] no, in the second wiki, you have all read and edit restricted [02:49:33] so that people can only see the main page, and login page [02:49:43] if they can't edit, they can't transclude [02:49:57] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_viewing_of_all_pages [02:50:04] yeah............but not alloweing them to edit defeats the purpose [02:50:33] "If you need per-page or partial page access restrictions, you are advised to install an appropriate content management package. MediaWiki was not written to provide per-page access restrictions, and almost all hacks or patches promising to add them will likely have flaws somewhere, which could lead to exposure of confidential data. We are not responsible for anything being leaked, leading to loss of funds or one's job." [02:50:35] if i use one of those extensions that does per-ns read rights, will it disable trancludes for users who cannot read those nses? [02:50:40] then MediaWiki is not what you want [02:51:02] for read access, it is all or nothing [02:51:30] IIRC, there _are_ extensions that will disable transclusions from protected namespaces, but there are a dozen other ways to get such data [02:51:44] like what? [02:51:57] preload, editintro, search, export, API, diff, redirects, etc [02:52:02] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Security_issues_with_authorization_extensions [02:52:45] Splarka: ty [02:52:48] feeds [02:53:40] indeed, feeds [02:53:52] mediawiki is made to be open ^_^ [02:53:56] i know [02:54:30] but i would like openness and closeness. i'm willing for multiple wikis, not for mult types of wikis [02:55:12] for the transclusion, i guess $wgNonincludableNamespaces works [02:55:14] right? [02:55:21] i'll have to investigate the other issues [02:55:48] well, the only "secure" way in mediawiki to protect data is to disable all search/api/export/feed/blahblah by restricting read to non-anonmyous (and restrict user creation) [02:56:12] this method used by a few Wikimedia wikis with critical data, IIRC [02:57:05] A trusted group works to [02:57:13] +shared db [02:57:32] do you think i could disable search, export, etc. and still allow users to just freely join. basically i want to be able to have a lot of secure groups, and don't want to make a new wiki for each one. [02:57:36] let's say i disable all the stuff [02:57:40] but allow users to join [02:57:49] then add them to either group A or group B [02:57:56] well [02:58:00] group A has read, edit access to A ns [02:58:03] B to B ns [02:58:05] you could have a shared user database across all your wikis [02:58:07] but each does not to the other [02:58:18] and then restrict read access on the secure ones to ['sysop'] instead of user [02:58:27] as well as edit access [02:58:28] does that seem to present problems? [02:58:44] then they'd exist on the secure ones, but could not access them unless you sysopped them there (in theory) [02:59:20] that's the kind of functionality i would like, except on a single wiki so that I don't have to install kbs of redundant files each time i want to do this. [02:59:23] but I don't know anything about per-namespace read protection other than you shouldn't try it [02:59:29] yeah......... [02:59:32] that's what i hear [02:59:35] you don't have to install [02:59:40] WikiFarm ftw [02:59:40] !farm [02:59:40] --mwbot-- To run multiple wikis, you can simply install MediaWiki in different folders, with different databases or in one with database prefixes. You can also have multiple wikis using a single installation: and . [02:59:51] hmmmmmmmmmmm [03:00:04] "You can also have multiple wikis using a single installation" i shall look into that [03:00:14] Splarka: you are helpful [03:00:20] rar [03:01:06] is that an acronym or a growl? [03:01:14] just a grunt [03:01:18] ok [03:01:20] heh [03:01:32] just making sure there wasn't some new internet slang i was unfamiliar [03:01:33] with [03:01:37] heh [03:01:40] usually i can figure them out pretty quickly [03:01:44] Is anyone in here using varnish instead of squid for caching? [03:02:14] *Splarka points to crucially [03:02:19] eghjaytee: Artur from Wikia is working on it [03:02:34] I was using it for a while but I upgraded to arnish trunk [03:02:42] and I dont think that things are purging correctly [03:02:53] it is pretty trick though [03:03:29] Dantman|FS: is Arthur's code in svn or anthing that you know of? [03:03:44] Artur=crucially [03:03:55] ok [03:04:02] I don't know if he committed the http2varnish code yet [03:04:30] crucially: have you commited any varnish code yet? Is there anything that you feel like sharing? [03:05:31] He's offline on skype... so he's probably away [03:05:40] word up [03:06:23] *JSharp nods [03:06:27] nighttime for him right now [03:06:46] all of that code should be being published soon if it's not now [03:13:24] 04(REOPENED) Mass deletion of images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8527 +comment (10mike.lifeguard) [03:17:00] 03(mod) Mass deletion of images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8527 (10wiki) [03:18:33] 03shinjiman * r35843 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Old/Late Time Chinese [03:28:39] Hi [03:28:54] Hi [03:30:13] Is there any way to get an updated list of articles that haven't been edited for a long time? [03:30:17] Is there any way to get an updated list of articles that haven't been edited for a long time? [03:30:42] I'm from Thai Wikipedia, and we are thinking about cleaning up really old articles [03:30:49] you mean Special:AncientPages ? [03:31:04] to bring them up to the today's standards [03:31:09] yeah something like that [03:31:25] well, that special page exists, but it isn't updated very often [03:31:33] on the en.wp it hasn't been since 2006 [03:31:38] the last time it was updated was like almost a year ago [03:31:44] so it's kinda useless right now [03:32:03] you could ask for a toolserver query to generate a list [03:32:08] 03tstarling * r35844 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DifferenceEngine.php: Reverted r35829, breaks the suppression of the "next diff" link ("newer edit" on wikipedia) when viewing a diff to the current revision. [03:32:17] 04(REOPENED) "current revision" link leads to latest flagged revision instead of current - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14395 +comment (10tstarling) [03:32:21] where can I ask? [03:32:45] #wikimedia-toolserver [03:32:56] ok thanks [03:33:02] or try #wikimedia-tech and ask for AncientPages to be updated (they might say yes...) ^_^ [03:33:07] do you know why aren't these get updated? [03:33:14] too expensive in processor time [03:33:17] they should update like 4 times a year [03:33:29] on small wikis they update with every edit [03:33:34] that assumes it takes less than 3 months to update the bloody thing [03:33:40] but things like Special:Wantedpages on en.wp can take days to update [03:33:45] ok [03:33:46] hehe [03:33:53] we only have 30k+ articles or so [03:33:56] so shouldn't be that bad [03:34:01] comparing to English, I can't imagine [03:34:14] Tim: is Ancientpages anywhere near as bad as Wantedpages? [03:35:07] they're probably pretty similar [03:35:13] ouch [03:35:31] both join a medium-sized table (page) to a big table (pagelinks and revision), and examine every resulting row [03:35:52] the worst ones are the ones that examine every row of a big table, like Mostlinked [03:37:22] ok [04:06:01] 03aaron * r35845 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DifferenceEngine.php: Add oldid like r35829, except without random unrelated change [04:06:39] 03(FIXED) "current revision" link leads to latest flagged revision instead of current - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14395 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [04:12:54] *Splarka watches T*m and A*ron play svn/bugzilla ping pong [04:17:21] heh [04:17:49] *AaronSchulz should learn C# [04:31:09] Hi, is it possible for a wiki to disable the move feature for all users except for privileged users? and I don't mean by autoconfirmation [04:32:48] BoL: yes [04:32:59] is there an extension for it? [04:32:59] $wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['move'] = false; [04:33:07] thanks [04:33:07] $wgGroupPermissions['autoconfirmed' ]['move'] = false; [04:33:09] ! [04:33:10] ok [04:33:19] $wgGroupPermissions['sysop' ]['move'] = true; [04:33:30] (might be redundant, sysop should have move by default, but just in case) [04:33:30] ok [04:33:32] thanks [04:33:34] heh [04:33:35] np [04:33:38] see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights for more details [04:46:27] <_overflow_> Hi all. If I want to modify the pager code is a hook or any other workaround to do this? [04:53:37] i wonder if roan means %2b when he talks about encoding problems on the list [04:53:51] he keeps saying %28, which is the '(' character... doesn't seem very problematic [04:54:23] is that a setup for a "%2b or not %2b" joke? [04:56:04] o.o [04:56:09] Omg ... [04:56:13] *amidaniel smacks Splarka [04:56:33] ow [04:57:17] oops [05:02:57] http://rafb.net/p/UV7mez60.html – Rollback diff doesn't work? [05:03:12] does anybody have an example of a sql statement that will search the latest revision of all pages in the wiki? I think i'm trying to do a search on text.old_text, but that column appears to be encoded. [05:04:51] have you looked at whatever /includes/SpecialAncientpages.php does? [05:05:09] nope, but I will. thanks [05:08:15] jdownie: you might find the searchindex table useful [05:09:35] thanks, i'll have a look at that now, the other suggestion didn't have what I'm looking for. [05:09:41] thanks anyway Splarka [05:10:01] *Splarka pouts [05:12:47] whoa flyingparchment! bingo [05:12:48] thanks! [05:13:06] sorry splarka [05:13:31] *Splarka grins [05:15:46] <_overflow_> Should I need to patch mediawiki code or is there anything that let me change the paging ? [06:04:27] 03werdna * r35846 10/trunk/phase3/ (docs/hooks.txt includes/Autopromote.php): Add GetAutoPromoteGroups hook, which was in my working copy but not committed yet (core change for TorBlock extension) [06:09:16] I just installed mediawiki on my mac.. now what? [06:09:40] I guess, where do I look to find out what to do with the $wgLogo to put up something in that corner? [06:10:23] and how do you set which users are power users? [06:10:33] but more importantly, where do I go to read about this stuff? [06:10:50] http://www.mediawiki.org [06:10:52] www.mediawiki.org :) [06:11:01] yeah.. I just found that :) [06:11:02] thanks [06:11:11] !faq | xaxxon [06:11:11] --mwbot-- xaxxon: Before reporting a problem or requesting assistance, please check the FAQ first. The FAQ for MediaWiki can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ [06:11:15] first search then ask :) [06:12:42] err, don't have a wglogo in my LocalSettings.php ? [06:13:53] put it there [06:13:56] search FAQ [06:14:39] oic. thank you [06:22:26] 03rotem * r35847 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update. [06:23:32] hrm... how can i tell a bot to show a bug? [06:23:38] !bug 14257 [06:23:38] --mwbot-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14257 [06:23:42] ah :) [06:23:58] could somebody have a look into it? [06:24:11] or at least tell me what i can do to solve it? [06:24:42] mmmm broke? [06:25:41]