[00:00:17] blarg [00:00:23] 03aaron * r35899 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryBacklinks.php: Tweak error messages [00:00:50] 03kim * r35900 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/voctrain/i18n/ (Names.php Names_iso639_3.php): mv Names.php to Names_iso639_3.php [00:02:50] *AaronSchulz watches Barack Obama finish winning [00:03:03] AaronSchulz: !== will be true for "" but false for null. is that correct? [00:03:25] or..... whatever the boolean vals are [00:03:26] yeah, but it doesn't seem to come in as null [00:03:30] *brion needs to go home [00:03:30] k [00:03:40] *Alexfusco5 also supports Obama [00:05:04] brion: huh, getAllowedParams() starts it as null. And the original check was for null. My guess is that something didn't pan through as desired [00:06:14] brion: so ideally, maybe the original code was find and something in the base should be fixed [00:06:21] but who knows [00:07:03] bluhh :) [00:07:48] *^demon almost has bug 10080 working perfectly [00:09:49] well, null is just the default [00:10:02] so I guess it gets overrode by a url param [00:11:03] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Video_games_notable_for_negative_reception&action=history [00:11:05] lol [00:11:38] 03demon * r35901 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Bug 10080 - Sysops can now modify a block without unblocking first. Patch by Huji with some tweaks to allow for silent unblocking (no log entry). [00:11:48] 03(FIXED) Allow modification of a block without unblocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10080 +comment (10innocentkiller) [00:11:54] *Alexfusco5 updates his wiki to test the new feature [00:12:02] thanks ^demon :) [00:12:13] *^demon thanks Block::delete() ;-) [00:13:03] <^demon> On my local install, User:Account2 has a very large block log now from testing :-P [00:13:31] ^demon: :P [00:13:33] hrm [00:14:57] ^demon: How does it work, a change options link, or just reblock? [00:15:48] <^demon> When you load Special:Blockip and the user is already blocked, it warns you at the top that reblocking will just update the current block. [00:15:58] k [00:16:44] <^demon> Then it silently deletes the current block and places the new one, did that as opposed to updateTimestamp() in case other options/summary were tweaked [00:17:59] ^demon: if its not to difficult, maybe add a options or reblock button next to it [00:18:19] <^demon> Where? [00:18:24] the block [00:18:29] next to unblock [00:19:05] <^demon> Ah, gotcha. Can do. [00:19:09] so it says (unblock | options) in the block log and where ever the unblock button shows up [00:19:19] ^demon: thanks :) [00:19:55] hi all, i would like to add whatlisnkshere on a tab using this extension: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Header_Tabs [00:20:07] 03(mod) No more working redirection - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14408 (10arno.raymond.lagrange) [00:20:08] how this could be done? [00:20:44] what text i should add on a template? [00:21:40] ^demon, about time that got fixed. [00:22:35] <^demon> Simetrical: Thanks. [00:27:03] *Alexfusco5 waits for a r35902 with his suggestion ^_^ [00:28:16] is there a tutorial on how to put googles api into a wiki? [00:35:28] <^demon> Alexfusco5: I think that's defined in a few places. I'll look at that tomorrow. [00:35:50] ^demon: no rush at all, just a suggestion :) [00:38:21] 03(mod) No more working redirection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14408 (10arno.raymond.lagrange) [00:41:53] 03(mod) No more working redirection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14408 +comment (10overlordq) [00:48:13] 03kim * r35902 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/voctrain/i18n/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [00:48:13] Switching to a message format that is better supported by betawiki [00:48:13] This has upsides and downsides, but the main upside is that [00:48:13] we'll actually get translations. That's a big upside :-P [00:50:00] 03kim * r35903 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/voctrain/i18n/language.i18n.php: + the actual new i18n file [00:50:09] hmmm, "it warns you at the top that reblocking will just update the current block." [00:50:19] ^demon: you might want to put an unblock link there [00:50:33] otherwise people will go back to the silly method of reblocking with time: 1 second, to unblock [00:50:37] like they used to do in 1.4 [00:51:09] <^demon> Put unblock link at top next to the "omg warning?!?" [01:17:03] 03nad * r35904 10/trunk/extensions/TreeAndMenu/TreeAndMenu.php: 1.0.3 - fixed another multiple-trees bug [01:17:27] 03kim * r35905 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/voctrain/i18n/ (language.i18n.php language.php): [01:17:27] i18n format tweaked (prefixes added) [01:17:27] I'm not entirely sure if betawiki can handle this format now. Looks like normally keys don't have spaces or special characters [01:17:27] well, 1 way to find out (cross fingers). [01:17:29] If this doesn't work, I'll tweak a bit more. [01:34:02] 03nad * r35906 10/trunk/extensions/TreeAndMenu/TreeAndMenu.php: doh! forgot to remove debugging output [01:53:55] oh canada: http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/06/04/tech-prentice.html [01:58:19] silly people, yes [01:58:23] I didn't vote for them [02:49:12] 03tstarling * r35907 10/trunk/extensions/TorBlock/ (TorBlock.class.php TorBlock.php): Add configuration variable $wgTorDisableAdminBlocks, allowing the disabling of admin blocks of tor nodes to be disabled. Removed duplicate definition of $wgTorIPs. [03:58:24] Hi, can i know where to edit the sidebar ? [04:00:47] !sidebar [04:00:47] --mwbot-- To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [04:01:57] Yeah, i had read that too, but i cannot understand on this " , edit the wiki page "MediaWiki:Sidebar"" [04:02:08] where to edit it ? [04:02:29] where to find the page of MediaWiki:Sidebar ? [04:02:45] as a page on your wiki, not a file [04:02:51] [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] [04:04:28] I'm getting a strange thumbnail error after migrating to another server [04:04:33] has anyone seen this before? [04:04:40] I only can see right right with navigation, top with page, discussion , edit and etc [04:04:41] Error creating thumbnail: /var/www/bluwiki-com/htdocs/bin/ulimit.sh: xrealloc: ../bash/subst.c:514: cannot reallocate 512 bytes (0 bytes allocated) [04:04:52] see this page for details: http://bluwiki.com/go/User:Sam_Odio/Test [04:05:03] but i couldnt see where is the page of MediaWiki:Sidebar [04:05:12] googling only returns my wiki... which isn't helpful :) [04:09:19] soontak: do you have a link to your wiki? [04:11:01] yes [04:11:10] but it is within LAN [04:12:05] well, paste a link to a page on your wiki anyways, like Special:Search or the main page [04:12:21] argh , i got it [04:12:36] even tho i cannot see any mediawiki:sidebar link available [04:12:56] i access it by this url : index.php/Mediawiki:Sidebar [04:13:15] right [04:13:24] thank you [04:13:25] there is no link available [04:13:28] you just go to that page name [04:13:31] np [04:15:23] 03demon * r35908 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/DefaultSettings.php includes/User.php): (bug 12859) Deprecate $wgRateLimitsExcludedGroups in favor of adding the 'noratelimit' user right. Doing it properly this time, so old functionality is still intact. [04:16:19] 03(FIXED) $wgRateLimitsExcludedGroups should be replaced by 'noratelimits ' right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12859 +comment (10innocentkiller) [04:23:40] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs Patrolling Configuration on alswiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13968 normal->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [04:27:16] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs Patrolling Configuration on dewiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13969 summary; +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [04:31:48] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on pt.wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14254 normal->15enhancement; summary (10Wiki.Melancholie) [04:33:24] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on Russian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13659 summary (10Wiki.Melancholie) [04:44:20] 03(mod) No more working redirection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14408 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [05:00:40] is "demon" here? [05:00:54] ^demon I think [05:01:27] right, he gives his webpage in USERINFO as ^demon [05:01:55] (after comments about his first commit yesterday being reverted before he made it... heh) [05:06:39] <^demon> TimStarling: Yeah, I'm around. I just saw your e-mail to Wikitech-l. [05:07:43] how long have you had svn access? [05:07:51] <^demon> Just a few days. [05:08:18] did brion give it to you? I don't remember seeing a message on wikitech-l [05:08:42] <^demon> Yes, he did. We had spoken about it before, but he hadn't gotten around to it until just a few days ago. [05:10:01] do you know about maintenance/eval.php? [05:10:19] <^demon> Can't say that I do. [05:10:43] well, if you write a function, like say User::isActiveUser(), that isn't used much or at all, you can test it using eval.php [05:11:00] it's immediate-mode PHP in an initialised mediawiki environment [05:11:26] <^demon> Gotcha. I'll keep it in mind from now on. [05:12:34] <^demon> And you're right, running isActiveUser() for each result would kill it for those things. The overall idea was a flag in recentchanges along the lines of rc_activeuser, so querying for it would be efficient. [05:12:49] <^demon> And using the method I wrote to determine the value for said field. [05:14:01] would probably work [05:14:27] but it won't give you statistics though [05:15:04] <^demon> Yeah, I figured it wouldn't. [05:15:54] <^demon> Thanks for the input and pointers though. I'll definitely keep eval.php in mind for future use. I'm off for the evening though. [05:16:02] bye [05:16:36] 03(mod) Bot related issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14326 +comment (10innocentkiller) [05:30:58] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/graphics/2008/06/04/calex04.gif [05:31:32] lol [05:36:11] I think I meant to paste that into my browser, and it got in here by mistake [05:36:16] oh well [05:36:51] heh [06:36:14] 03(mod) Bot related issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14326 (10millosh) [06:39:13] Simple question: how do you revert an old message translation to the Betwiki one? [06:45:51] Moilleadoir: delete it? [06:46:59] NR: That's what I was going to try next but thought I'd check. [06:49:05] Works, thanks. I'll go with the empirical approach next time. Cheers [06:50:48] more the hollistic approach [07:01:00] 03siebrand * r35909 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Fix typo in 'ipb_already_blocked' and add newline [07:02:14] 03tstarling * r35910 10/trunk/extensions/BotQuery/query.php: Use MW_INSTALL_PATH environment variable [07:04:04] 03siebrand * r35911 10/trunk/extensions/EditSimilar/EditSimilar.i18n.php: Remove double space [07:11:49] 03nikerabbit * r35912 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (19 files in 4 dirs): [07:11:49] Some rewriting including: [07:11:49] * new exporters [07:11:49] * changed the way of adding MediaWiki extensions [07:13:07] :o~ [07:18:13] 03nikerabbit * r35913 10/trunk/extensions/AuthorProtect/AuthorProtect.i18n.php: * Extra space at the beginning? [07:20:26] 03nikerabbit * r35914 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 2 dirs): * Rename this to correct name [07:21:01] 9 PHP Warning: array_intersect() [function.array-intersect]: Argument #2 is not an array in /var/www/w/includes/User.php on line 1105 [07:21:05] is this fixed? [07:21:53] mmmmmmm [07:22:02] where's demon... [07:22:11] the variable needs to be defined [07:47:50] 03nikerabbit * r35915 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: * This class isn't needed anymore [08:01:53] 03(mod) Bot related issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14326 +comment (10dan_the_man) [08:06:23] 03siebrand * r35916 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesAs.php: Fall back to Hindi [08:10:34] <_wooz> lo [08:20:50] 03(mod) Implement TextCha as more accessible CAPTCHA for vision impaired people - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13938 (10N/A) [08:21:19] Hi, i would like to ask is it the mediawiki search function is allow to search page title ? [08:21:32] Hi, i would like to ask is it the mediawiki search function is only allow to search page title ? [08:28:10] 03(mod) Bot related issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14326 (10millosh) [08:38:08] 03(mod) Error while loading a spanish database dump with mwdumper - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14379 (10jymj2002) [08:39:53] Hi, is it possible to run update.php by adding require_once( "maintenance/update.php" ); [08:39:59] to AdminSettings.php? [08:41:01] update should be run from the command line, otherwise a grue might eat you or other bad things [08:41:18] I don't have a command line on the host [08:41:45] Didn't somebody point out the alternative ways to updating earlier? [08:41:53] Yes, they don't work [08:42:46] Installing as new gives a db-user name conflict [08:45:51] So, can I avoid being eaten by a grue? :) [08:48:36] 03(NEW) Allow user accounts to be 'linked' to a master account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14409 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User login/settings; (dan_the_man) [08:49:00] 03ialex * r35917 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Added 'right-noratelimit' message and updated messages.inc [08:49:09] 03(WONTFIX) Bot related issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14326 +comment (10dan_the_man) [08:50:15] 03(mod) Allow user accounts to be 'linked' to a master account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14409 (10dan_the_man) [08:52:43] Guido: MediaWiki does checks to ensure that maintenance scripts are being run through the cli, they will abort if you try to access them directly from the web, this is for security reasons. A workaround if your host offers it, may be to set the task as a cron job, and then delete that after run. [08:54:02] Thanks, I'm unfamiliar with cron, but will check [08:55:00] If I try my AdminSettings suggestion the whole thing will blow up? [08:57:46] OK, it seems that I have a cron job possibility, but it requires knowledge of Linux, which I don't have [08:59:10] I need to enter a command. Would that be /wiki/maintenance/update.php ? [08:59:45] go to the wiki directory (at a shell) and type "php maintenance/update.php" [08:59:58] I don't have a shell [09:00:26] Is the cron command the same? [09:00:43] most likely. but what sort of hosting provides has cron access but not shell? [09:01:03] Good question [09:01:51] There is nothing on my CPanel that says Shell [09:04:25] flyingparchment: A number of shared hosts don't give out shell, but however they do allow their users to configure cron jobs throug the UI [09:04:42] that doesn't really make sense, since if you have cron access you can do anything you could do from a shell [09:05:18] Though, most of those do give SSH access... But you have to jump through a few loops, like showing them ID or stuff before they'll actually give you the privileges for that [09:05:50] ^_^ Shared hosts are stupid in many ways... But that's why we have VPS hosts... [09:07:01] Is this something that could help: http://manual.amstechdns.com/shell/ [09:07:41] Yup [09:07:49] But yuck... they use SSH1 [09:10:43] OK, I'll try cron first, and if that won't work, I'll run Putty [09:12:17] Meh, just using the shell would be much easier on you [09:14:11] I'll try pestering them with questions until something gives :) [09:15:11] ^_^ Sounds good... they are shared hosting [09:15:31] *Dantman hopes the servers give first [09:18:15] 03(mod) Bot related issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14326 (10millosh) [09:18:37] Hi all, i want ask, when Search is used and there are article results, i am interested how to get articles of search? (hooks?) [09:20:04] *Sasa^Stefanovic pokes rainman-sr [09:21:37] ok i got it. [09:38:07] 03(mod) Bot related issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14326 (10dan_the_man) [09:40:18] Hi, someone to help me (in french or english). I've just installed mediawiki for my organization, and before launching it officially, I would like to know a few things as creating portals, customizing the desing, monitoring activity, restricting some pages... [09:41:42] Or maybe a web page to start reading... [09:41:48] janolap, look documentation, its not for few minutes. [09:42:02] !manual | janolap1 [09:42:02] --mwbot-- janolap1: An introduction to using MediaWiki is at , see for information about copying it to your own wiki. More technical information for MediaWiki administrators is at . For an introduction on programming with MediaWiki, see . [09:42:23] 03ialex * r35918 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (CHANGELOG Configure.php Configure.settings.php): Added $wgActiveUserEditCount and $wgActiveUserDays [09:42:53] Galiman, Dantman, mwbot : thank you, that's what i was looking for... [09:43:22] heh... thanking mwbot... that's just a bot that replies to commands [09:43:29] :) [09:46:30] dantman : ;-) [09:54:01] 03ialex * r35919 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/SpecialGlobalGroupMembership.php: This one is correct, was redirecting to Special:Userrights [09:54:49] 03grondin * r35920 10/trunk/extensions/NavigationPopups/NavigationPopups.php: correcting ling to NavigationPopups.i18n.php [09:55:37] PHP Warning: array_intersect() [function.array-intersect]: Argument #2 is not an array in /var/www/w/includes/User.php on line 1105 in SVN HEAD [09:59:46] 03ialex * r35921 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Define $wgRateLimitsExcludedGroups to an empty array to avoid some PHP warnings, thanks to siebrand for reporting it. [10:01:06] ialex: thank you for the fix. [10:19:40] eek [10:19:47] I wanted to help out with LiquidThreads [10:19:49] then I saw the code :/ [10:20:10] how many years has lqt been in development now? [10:20:50] flyingparchment: I think more than SUL is [10:21:07] i need to use SpecialSearchResults, but on manual page iswritten avalaible from 1.13.0.. but i canot find that release.. [10:21:11] Wasn't SUL something rather recent? [10:21:18] Gali: 1.13 is still SVN [10:21:32] Dantman: the idea is very old. the implementation was only finished recently [10:21:49] hmm. [10:21:57] ^_^ Sounds like my SHID [10:22:09] (SUL was bug #57) [10:22:14] heh [10:22:26] flyingparchment: the code is so non-standard for MediaWiki. [10:22:33] but i am aware to use svn version to work on extension.. :/ [10:22:41] maybe I should refactor it someday [10:22:51] Werdna: yeah, afaik the author is not really involved in MW development apart from that [10:22:51] SF could use some refactoring to [10:23:40] SF? [10:23:43] san francisco? [10:23:46] Semantic Forms [10:23:48] yeah [10:23:54] need to refactor out those gays [10:23:55] ;-) [10:24:01] move some to texas [10:24:09] *Werdna slaps flyingparchment with a large brick of lead. [10:24:30] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14357 [10:24:44] Are accessors (get*/set*) better than direct variable access? [10:24:45] Using SpecialPage::addPage as well [10:25:06] VasilievVV: generally, accessors should be a last resort [10:25:15] they don't offer any abstraction [10:25:32] it's better to have 'action' methods that don't expose details of the class [10:25:55] It's a C function call either way... Though... most people are lazy... So they don't even rationalize what is the best thing to do in their situation [10:26:25] Though getters/setters are good for lazy loading [10:26:51] *VasilievVV looks at his class full of lines like "public function getReason() { return null-object->mReason; }" [10:27:04] You can have people use them... Then later on decide that the set code is to heavy, and you want it loaded on demand instead of inside of the constructor [10:27:09] *s/null-object/$this/ [10:27:14] Damn KVirc [10:27:20] heh [10:29:02] http://rafb.net/p/dk3SAl47.html [10:29:53] *VasilievVV wonders if it looks awful [10:30:47] ^_^ Now what would be nice... Would be setting up a __call which would filter out anything starting with get or set, and derive any variable names out of it... Then you could use getters and setters... And override when you feel neccessary [10:31:36] It would be longer :) [10:31:53] Since many method use different variables, and many are read-only [10:32:02] And at the pinicle of design you could put it in a MWClass and subclass everything from it to make it globaly usable [10:32:17] ^_^ ro rw [10:32:24] Hmmm [10:33:16] get... m??? > rw??? > ro???; set... m??? > rw??? [10:33:22] Anyone do not know when 1.13 will be released? [10:33:40] Releases are quarterly [10:34:04] Last one was Feb [10:34:14] Shouldn't be to much longer? [10:34:14] hmm.. [10:35:02] Dantman: now they are usually released once in 4 or 5 months [10:35:30] hmm, if i create extension using hook functionality of not realeased Mediawiki then is quite problem.. [10:35:37] ^_^ Why not even it out to semi-anual? [10:35:57] Just be wary of the impatient consumers calling it sem-anal [10:36:01] semi even [10:36:52] Not really... It would just be classed as a future feature... like everything in trunk [10:37:06] +core [10:38:14] Though, I hope 1.13 isn't released to soon... I want to get that Special:Specialpages UI improvement fixed firts [10:38:18] first* [10:38:51] 1.13 released with tables which have been depreciated for good design.... ick [10:39:00] (deprecated) [10:39:43] T_T Lemme have my misspelled words... Some of us hate the language we're born to... [10:40:02] well, depreciated is spelt correctly, it just means something different ;) [10:40:27] ^_^ If we misuse it enough, they've have to change it one of these days... [10:41:07] The media made people misuse hacker all these years... And it got written that way in the dictionary for awhile... [10:42:01] And annoyingly enough... People still watch reruns, and don't buy new dictionaries... [10:42:31] You know how old the ones inside of schools are? [10:42:54] ^_^ I don't even think they have y2k defined in those [10:43:16] Dantman: they don't need dictionaries. They can use Wikipedia and Wiktionary [10:43:19] Or otherwise... it may be defined as a "Future crisis" [10:44:01] what should i download from Svn, pls what is link to latest version of mediawiki? [10:44:07] Oh no... they're using Apples... And I'm talking OS 9... with IE for Mac... And few of them at that... [10:44:24] Students don't get much computer access in public schools [10:45:02] Gali: It's in the friggin sidebar: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_SVN [10:45:21] Dantman , bleeding edge version ? [10:45:38] !svn | Gali [10:45:38] --mwbot-- Gali: Subversion is a version control software that allows users to download the very latest version of a branch without having to wait for someone to get around to packaging it. Advantages to using Subversion include the latest version, vastly simplified updating, the ability to roll back an upgrade, the ability to create and submit patches. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Subversion for more information. [10:45:45] What else? We don't refer to it as trunk for no reason [10:46:06] below bleeding edge "/trunk/" [10:46:52] Dantman: thanks [10:51:12] question, is there any database changes from 1.12 ? probably yes.. not? [10:51:19] Yes [10:51:20] Lo, I just installed mediawiki but I can't use infobox like on wikipedia - is it some extra thing or option I need to install/add ? [10:51:44] It's always good to run update.php anyways... It doesn't cost anything and it's a good precaution [10:52:09] !tidy | peterpen [10:52:09] --mwbot-- peterpen: Wikimedia uses HTML Tidy, which allows mixed html and wikitables inside parser functions and templates. This can often be confusing for people copying templates from Wikimedia projects. For more information about HTML Tidy, see . [10:52:34] Oh ya... ^_^ I'm actually starting to remember some of the magic words for mwbot [10:52:48] Dantman, I don't understand how that helps [10:53:10] one question, before I promise that I can setup AD as a backend for authentication with MW, it works with an extention? ... right? ;) [10:53:28] dfp: LdapAuthentication extension [10:53:36] peterpen: "This can often be confusing for people copying templates from Wikimedia projects" "Wikimedia uses HTML Tidy, which allows mixed html and wikitables inside parser functions and templates." [10:53:56] didn't I already read that? [10:54:01] Yes... [10:54:11] and, so, well... [10:54:39] You're copying a template from Wikipedia, Wikipedia is part of Wikimedia... Your templates break... It's confusing... And it's because of tidy! [10:54:46] How does that help me use infobox in my wiki? [10:54:57] You install tidy or don't use Wp's broken junk [10:55:03] Dang. Cron job doesn't get executed. [10:55:22] but according to your link, UseTidy is already inside mediawiki [10:55:39] Ya... a configuration option... which is disabled by default... [10:55:49] Install and enable [10:56:03] Tidy itself is an external C library [10:56:22] I don't see it inside LocalSettings.php as disabled tho [10:56:28] do I just add a new line to enable? [10:56:33] Most servers don't have it... Some people don't want it... And that's why it's not enabled [10:56:35] Yes [10:56:46] Settings are preset in DefaultSettings.php [10:56:51] That's where the defaults go [10:56:56] ah I see [10:57:00] Everything in LocalSettings.php are your overrides [10:57:11] Fatal error: Call to undefined function wfLoadExtensionMessages() in /customers/skrivetrang.no/skrivetrang.no/httpd.www/wiki/extensions/ParserFunctions/Expr.php on line 51 [10:57:19] Anyone that understands that problem? [10:57:25] Defaults in Defaults... Configs in Local [10:57:36] Dantman, do I have to reload anything after editing local? it didn't work so fare [10:57:42] EivindJ: Upgrade your copy of MW [10:57:44] in expr.php it's written: wfLoadExtensionMessages( 'ParserFunctions' ); [10:57:50] ah [10:57:51] Or downgrade your copy of ParserFunctions [10:57:55] $wgUseTidy = true; [10:58:01] Dantman: thanks! [10:58:21] peterpen: make sure you have the C program [10:58:30] lol ok so there is something to install [10:58:37] whats that called? UseTidy ? [10:58:41] Tidy [10:58:52] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUseTidy [10:59:08] Links to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_tidy [10:59:41] Which links to: http://tidy.sourceforge.net/ [10:59:43] is it like a php module that I can just apt-get [10:59:47] What is the path that I need to use in a Cron job? I tried php the-full-url.php, but that didn't work [10:59:51] Tidy should be in apt [11:00:01] Gimme a second to ssh [11:00:07] got it I think [11:00:27] hmm nope, maybe its not 'tidy' maybe its 'htmltidy' [11:00:44] ok mebbe not [11:00:59] well 'tidy' is not installed and useTidy=true yet no infobox [11:01:06] You could always take the lazy aproach [11:01:11] apt-get install php5-tidy [11:01:28] still nothing [11:01:31] restart apache tho ? [11:01:31] Whether or not MW uses the PHP library the dependencies will get you the actual libraries [11:01:33] No [11:01:40] ok [11:01:40] But you should &action=purge the page [11:01:52] how do I action purge! [11:02:03] Hit edit, and replace the =edit with =purge [11:02:07] ah! btu it at the end :P [11:02:30] nope still nothing [11:02:32] ?action=purge always works to if you are using short urls [11:02:43] PHP Logs? [11:03:14] You might want to enable debugging to checkout if any errors are being outputted [11:03:32] is that a word? [11:03:33] :D [11:04:08] Wp templates are ugly... [11:04:12] iBox is where it's at [11:04:30] http://anime.wikia.com/wiki/Template:iBox [11:04:40] One of these days I'm going to turn that into an extension [11:05:02] I don't think it needs tidy to get infobox to work [11:05:06] And link it with Semantic Forms so you can use a form based interface to create infoboxes [11:05:21] peterpen: You'll need tidy if you want to use WP's ugly infoboxes [11:05:26] They use tidy... [11:05:33] You don't need to... but they do [11:06:03] well according to the many pages I'm reading off google that should have done it then [11:06:20] is 'infobox' isntalled [11:06:26] does it need to be? [11:06:40] Infobox isn't an extension... it's a type of template [11:06:56] ok then, so on a new install - does it exist? [11:07:08] Of course not [11:07:12] lol [11:07:14] What are you even copying from Wikipedia? [11:07:36] I just want to copy one article over so we can experiment offline from wikipedia before uploading properly [11:08:00] :/ then that's you're issue... You never copied the templates in the first place [11:08:10] ok how do I do that ? :P [11:08:29] I suggest using Special:Export... It has a handy checkbox that includes any templates used in the article [11:08:30] im on the template:infobox article on wp... but its just documentation [11:08:44] Use that on the article [11:09:07] There isn't one single infobox [11:09:09] hey [11:09:19] Infoboxes are created for whatever reason they are needed for [11:09:42] Dantman, ok how do I modify this? {{Infobox_Company | company_name = [Moo]}} [11:09:49] so that it uses remotely wp's infobox [11:10:00] :/ You don't! [11:10:04] :( [11:10:09] then I don't follow [11:10:31] You export their page checking off the checkbox that says to include templates and import that into your wiki [11:11:54] I don't see a button for export on wp [11:12:17] Special:Export [11:12:27] peterpen: just go to [[Special:Export]] [11:13:13] got it! [11:13:19] I thought it'd be specific to the page [11:15:18] then Special:Import I guess, only I need to login and it won't let me - I'm using exactly the same details for user/pass I gave in the setup wizard [11:15:55] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TorBlock very informative ;) [11:16:31] heh :) [11:16:35] so informative theres nothing on the page? [11:16:56] Warpath: I may point you to your favorite deletion reason :) [11:17:05] ^_^ Videotaping a hamster is more interesting? [11:17:26] :P [11:17:42] peterpen, that was sarcasm :P [11:17:48] Especially when their soul goal in life is to escape the cage [11:18:08] Dantman, are you on drugs lately? :) [11:18:24] Nope... but like I said in #wikia [11:18:26] or too much anime ;) [11:18:46] [03:14:50] ^_^ Lack of sleep is my drunkeness... And the requirement of having to wakeup sleepy at 8AM to walk my sister to school is my haingover... rotfl [11:18:47] how can I force an admin pass reset? [11:18:48] heh [11:19:48] Dantman, one word" coffee" ;) [11:19:58] ^_^ No.... Monster [11:20:04] damn it why did it put Root instead of root [11:20:06]