[00:33:33] hi [00:34:03] *Furry_Fury looks around... [00:34:17] hello? [00:34:49] hi [00:35:01] yay someone is there [00:35:03] ok [00:35:14] i want to ad javascript to a page [00:35:19] sorry [00:35:28] i'm just a newbie user [00:35:46] gahh.. [00:35:47] the hi was not so useful [00:35:49] i gtg [00:35:56] hehe [00:39:02] Furry_Fury[afk]: what kind of js? [00:52:28] just a countdown timer [00:53:01] i figured if there was a way to use javascript i wouldnt have to learn a whole new language [00:53:39] http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:Splarka/tricks#Countdown_timers [00:55:01] i know how to use javascript i dont what i dont know is how to make the page accept it [00:56:34] the script tag doesnt work... [00:57:08] you put it in the site-wide JS [00:57:18] MediaWiki:Common.js for example [00:57:41] but just knowing that and "how to use javascript" isn't always enough for a wiki ^_^ [00:57:56] for example, you need to use addOnloadHook() to run code after document load [00:58:15] how to go into specialrights page? [00:58:16] which is an omnibrowser safe alternateive to body.onload [00:58:54] what if i want to create new group .. and assign user to it..? how can it be done in mediawiki? [00:59:12] !userrights [00:59:12] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [00:59:32] ty [01:00:47] how to i open the file? [01:01:19] not a file, is a page [01:01:30] click Special:Specialpages in the toolbox on the wiki [01:01:49] and then click "System messages" in that list [01:02:29] ok [01:02:31] then what [01:02:44] look for MediaWiki:Common.js [01:03:03] (or in an older version: MediaWiki:Monobook.js) [01:03:26] ok... [01:03:55] do i change the actuly page in editing? [01:04:12] well, Common.js gets loaded on every page load in a [01:21:46] lol [01:21:50] ok. fine [01:22:50] is there any way to make a dynamic change like a countdown? [01:22:55] withotu js? [01:23:29] i know i can make a timer, but if it doesnt change [01:23:33] then.. [01:23:38] it kinda usless [01:28:46] wait.. [01:28:55] i cant even define variables ? [01:29:29] and whats with all the "extensio" crap.. [01:31:50] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions#.23time: [01:32:10] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Variables [01:32:44] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version#Installed_extensions [01:36:13] so for example: [01:36:20] {{#expr: {{#time:U|1 April 2009}} - {{#time:U}}}} seconds until April 1st! [01:37:12] great but it doesnt change until i refresh the page.. [01:37:31] indeed [01:37:59] is is there any way to make change? [01:38:21] disable caching, but they won't do that on wikipedia [01:38:24] http://toolserver.org/~leon/stats/reqstats/reqstats-weekly.png [01:39:17] so... [01:39:23] they serve 52k requests per second peak [01:39:27] grr... [01:39:48] in javascript the page doesnt need to refresh for it to change [01:39:50] and only about 3.8% of those require back-end apache access [01:41:50] "{{#expr: (({{#time:U|1 April 2009}} - {{#time:U}}) / (60*60*24)) round 0 }} days until April 1st" [01:42:12] with day grainulairity it isn't *too* bad [01:42:50] just action=purge your page once a day [01:43:26] if you need more than that, you'll have to link offsite, or convince the english Wikipedia it needs a general method of including javascript countdown timers on pages [01:46:25] hmm let me play around a bit.. [01:46:45] how do you download? [02:05:32] is a there s quick round down command [02:06:04] {{#expr: 123.456 round 0}} [02:06:17] yes but i always want it to round down [02:06:19] or you mean a floor? [02:06:34] so 2.99 = 2 [02:06:49] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Floor [02:07:09] cool ty [02:07:12] hmm, seems supported in #expr now [02:07:22] that save me alot of code [02:07:23] {{#expr:floor(2.99)}} [02:07:58] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Floor&diff=211525048&oldid=177697164 [02:08:03] that is what they had to do before [02:10:22] that command just changed [02:10:23] {{#ifexpr:{{#expr: (({{#time:U|17 June 2008}} - {{#time:U}}) / (60*60*24)) round 0 }} > {{#expr: (({{#time:U|17 June 2008}} - {{#time:U}}) / (60*60*24)) }}| {{#expr: ((({{#time:U|17 June 2008}} - {{#time:U}}) / (60*60*24))round 0) -1 }}| {{#expr: (({{#time:U|17 June 2008}} - {{#time:U}}) / (60*60*24)) round 0}}}} days [02:10:25] into [02:10:26] this: [02:10:28] {{#expr: {{floor |({{#time:U|17 June 2008}} - {{#time:U}}) / (60*60*24) }} }} [02:10:50] is there a possibility of a "shortcut" of a lengthy code other than templates or variables ? [02:11:07] there arnt any varibles ... [02:11:14] which really annyes me [02:11:26] but there is an extention calles Variables [02:11:30] called* [02:11:41] yeah but what if ur editing an erticle [02:11:45] article [02:12:40] the problem is: I have a code fraction which has the vertical bar in it [02:12:45] i really want to use varibles [02:12:47] soo bad [02:13:06] the {{!}}-substitution works otherwise well, but somehow not in this case [02:13:41] unfortunately that vertical bar messes up the table in which it is used [02:14:08] so I tried it via a template [02:14:27] but a template in a tables also doesn't work well [02:14:48] why cant i just do this : [02:14:50] {{#expr:{{#time:j g i s|17 June 2008}} - {{#time:j g i s}} }} [02:15:08] that would be so nice... [02:46:45] <[Ex0r]> anyone know where the pages are stored at in the db ? [02:47:00] <[Ex0r]> My main page is linked in searchindex, but it's not listing it as the mainpage [02:47:14] is it possible to do a wildcard search in the mediawiki search box? [02:48:34] <[Ex0r]> i have a page in page called Main_Page, but the wiki says that the main page link doesnt eist [02:48:36] <[Ex0r]> exist* [02:48:47] <[Ex0r]> so I have to find out where in the db the content for it is stored and check the id [02:49:46] <[Ex0r]> under searchindex is some identical content for the main page, but it's not got any formatting on it [02:50:25] it exists in many different tables iirc [02:50:36] the revisions table contains the main content though, I think [02:51:53] <[Ex0r]> i checked in there, that's for where page edits take place [02:56:17] <[Ex0r]> great, I restored a backup of my db and now all my links are screwed up [02:56:49] <[Ex0r]> anyone know how to fix them ? [02:57:12] <[Ex0r]> Not all of them are broken [02:59:36] screwed up in what way? [02:59:51] <[Ex0r]> as in they dont display now [02:59:58] <[Ex0r]> it says this page has no text [03:00:13] so by "links" you mean pages? [03:00:18] <[Ex0r]> yeah [03:00:32] <[Ex0r]> It's an exact copy from a working backup [03:00:52] <[Ex0r]> that I imported into a new mediawiki install (same version), and the pages aren't linking correctly. [03:00:59] well, the first thing you should know is that titles are case sensitive, so [[Main page]] is different to [[Main Page]] [03:01:20] you can see a list of pages in the database using [[Special:Allpages]] [03:01:28] that shows you the pages in the page table [03:01:39] <[Ex0r]> Right, but it's an exact db dump so it shouldn't affect any of that [03:01:45] the page table is linked to the revision table, and the bulk text is stored in the text table [03:01:45] <[Ex0r]> it all should come right back up the same it did [03:02:17] page.page_latest -> revision.rev_id, revision.rev_text_id -> text.old_id [03:03:02] <[Ex0r]> So than question. If they are all linked INSIDE of the db, why does it suddenly not work? [03:03:11] <[Ex0r]> When it's an dump of a working wiki ? [03:04:50] do you want me to use my telepathic powers to look inside your server? [03:05:22] <[Ex0r]> What I am failing to realize is how two exact setups act nothing alike [03:05:34] <[Ex0r]> the second wiki install isn't retrieveing the tables correctly [03:05:36] well, they're probably not exact copies [03:05:52] <[Ex0r]> Both were setup exactly the same way [03:05:56] <[Ex0r]> and both use the exact same database [03:06:11] the task is to find out what's different about them [03:06:40] <[Ex0r]> Except for the fact that one is mysql4 and one is mysql5, nothing else is different [03:07:16] so you say the main page is missing, is that right? and the title is [[Main Page]]? [03:07:19] in english? [03:07:37] <[Ex0r]> No, the title is called Main_Page [03:07:54] and does that page show up in Special:Allpages? [03:08:00] <[Ex0r]> as is the name of the title in the db [03:08:02] <[Ex0r]> yes, it does [03:08:56] <[Ex0r]> Wait, the title is called Main Page, not Main_Page [03:09:02] same thing [03:09:21] <[Ex0r]> k [03:09:24] <[Ex0r]> than yes, it's listed [03:09:39] <[Ex0r]> As are all the other tables that I am trying to view and they say have no data [03:09:49] so when you follow the link to that page, it shows a "page does not exist" message [03:09:58] <[Ex0r]> yeah [03:10:00] what happens when you click "edit" on that page? [03:10:10] <[Ex0r]> Well, it doesn't anymore [03:10:18] <[Ex0r]> because I clicked edit and made changes to it [03:10:48] so it was blank before you made changes to it? [03:10:54] <[Ex0r]> yes [03:10:57] <[Ex0r]> for some reason [03:11:04] <[Ex0r]> even though if you click random page [03:11:11] <[Ex0r]> the main_page ends up eventually showing up [03:11:31] <[Ex0r]> With the CORRECCT info [03:11:34] <[Ex0r]> CORRECT* [03:11:42] <[Ex0r]> even though the links still dont work [03:11:57] is the wiki public? [03:11:58] Hello, I just upgraded from 1.11.0 to 1.12.o and I am seeing a lot of < and > within the site, such as within recent changes [03:12:02] <[Ex0r]> yes [03:12:13] and within my version page [03:15:05] has anyone experienced this as well? [03:15:10] [Ex0r]: some of the revisions are there, some of them aren't [03:15:28] <[Ex0r]> I can see that, i'm trying to figure out why [03:15:29] it's possible when you restored from the backup, there was an error part-way through, and it aborted [03:15:56] <[Ex0r]> It wouldn't have continued making the rest of the tables if that were the case though [03:15:58] or maybe when you made the backup, it hit an error and left you with half a backup [03:16:06] <[Ex0r]> could be [03:16:39] <[Ex0r]> how can you tell what revisions haven't gone through ? [03:16:49] <[Ex0r]> so I can grab them from the other wiki before I take it down [03:17:35] I think you should try to transfer the whole table again [03:18:39] you could write a script to transfer the missing rows, but you'd want a really good reason to do it that way [03:19:01] <[Ex0r]> thing is, is I don't have direct access to the old database [03:19:06] <[Ex0r]> the admin of the other server made it and gave it to me [03:20:18] did you install mediawiki before you imported the backup? [03:20:33] <[Ex0r]> yeah [03:20:42] <[Ex0r]> i installed mediawiki using the default stuff [03:20:48] <[Ex0r]> than emptied the db and imported this db [03:21:17] if I were you, I'd have a look at the backup file with a text editor and work out what's going on with it [03:21:47] <[Ex0r]> I dont know the structure of the table, that's why I came in here to ask where the content for the pages is stored at [03:22:04] the text table [03:22:41] that's the one that's corrupted, if it was the revision table that was corrupted, the entries wouldn't be showing up in the history [03:23:51] <[Ex0r]> well if it's corrupted, I can't really do anything [03:23:58] <[Ex0r]> other than get another copy of it [03:24:08] the table is corrupted, I didn't say the backup is corrupted [03:24:19] that's what you have to find out [03:25:21] *AaronSchulz watches a doctor on PBS talking about longevity [03:25:26] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Roizen#Longevity_claims [03:25:26] TimStarling: do you know why after upgrading to 1.12.0 from 1.11.0 I would have a lot of < > being parsed into > <? [03:25:36] 'His methods and conclusions are roundly dismissed by academics who study aging. They run counter to a position paper published in 2002 by 51 leading scientists on the topics of longevity and aging. [10].' [03:25:43] 03(mod) Set Wikipedia namespace for ta.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13220 (10sundarbecse) [03:26:00] 03(VERIFIED) Set Wikipedia namespace for ta.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13220 (10sundarbecse) [03:26:13] eghjaytee: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MNPP [03:29:14] TimStarling: that saddens me [03:29:25] <[Ex0r]> TimStarling- found the problem. The .sql file cuts off halfway through a INSERT INTO `text` query [03:29:33] <[Ex0r]> weird that the result didn't bring back an error [03:30:55] AaronSchulz: what saddens you? the existence of charlatans? [03:31:05] well, that too [03:31:37] but that fact that he works a world renowned institution, Cleveland Clinic, is a top executive there, and they don't care [03:32:01] can't they at least give him a nudge, and then a scolding if it continues [03:32:25] and the increase of pseudoscience in PBS/discovery channel is worrisome too [03:32:56] at least I still have good old Steven Novella and David Gorski to count on :) [03:43:59] TimStarling: I wonder if we need another skeptical solicitation? ;) [03:55:03] Hello everyone? I'm thinking of making an extension request and I'm wondering how realistic it is? [03:55:33] I'm working on a download system for my wiki. [03:55:34] So far I have this = http://www.driverwiki.com/index.php?title=Practice/Download [03:55:35] and I'm thinking of adding either [03:55:36] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AjaxRatingScript or [03:55:38] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Rating . (for a comment and rating system for [03:55:39] each download. [03:56:08] I have created a proposal, it can be downloaded in .pdf format here = http://www.designermotion.com/projects/web/mediawiki/docs/mediawiki_proposal_extension_download-v1.pdf [04:12:45] does anyone think my proposal is realistic! [04:22:52] I wonder, what could someone do to implement a commons-style setup for images? [04:54:54] 03mfarag * r36013 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuth.i18n.php: typo [06:25:22] 03nad * r36014 10/trunk/extensions/TreeAndMenu/TreeAndMenu.php: 1.0.4 - surround script wih CDATA and comment syntax [06:49:47] hey friends i wanna put several images via the [[Image:..]] tag above only one description that describes all of them [06:49:52] how would i do this again? [06:51:47] hi all [06:52:24] anyone up ? [07:02:26] 03(NEW) wiki:howto:edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14469 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Search; (frank) [07:04:21] no [07:15:25] how can I link a work like "accounting" to "command line:accounting" , without showing "command line:accounting" in the page if I use [[ xxx ]] to link ? [07:15:48] I just want people to see "accounting" with a link to "command line:accounting" in fact .. [07:17:17] never mind [07:17:18] found it [07:28:43] hey how is it possible to link en.wp images on other language wps? [07:30:04] put image to commons? [07:30:19] 14(INVALID) wiki:howto:edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14469 +comment (10semenik) [07:30:40] domas: other way? [07:33:36] ^_^ Poke someone to create an interimage feature? [07:33:39] heh [07:34:46] [[Image:Interwiki:Imagename.ext]] ;) Just a little hint... ':' is illegal and coverted to a '-'... If someone built the feature, likely as an extension, that syntax is legal... [07:35:02] Dantman: waht is this [07:35:15] Just a theory I've had for awhile [07:35:22] would it work? [07:35:31] It would need a fair bit of coding [07:35:50] The issue as always is a method of grabbing data from the other wiki [07:36:00] aldow: there is 'no other way' if your setting up the wiki yourself it's possible [07:36:11] errr let me rephrase that [07:36:18] no i see [07:36:20] dang [07:36:25] Interwiki on it's own does not support connecting to things like the api [07:36:27] there is no other way on wikipedia, but if your setting up the wiki yourself it's possible [07:36:30] no other way than commons? [07:36:33] Ya [07:36:40] why [07:37:06] Cause it's not programmed, and not installed [07:37:25] why not [07:38:11] ^_^ Same reason we don't have a few thousand other features [07:38:29] It's a tricky challenge that not everyone is pushed towards enough [07:38:49] It would be insanely usefull over at Wikia... But it's tricky to implement [07:38:50] not only that it is a feature subject to abuse [07:39:06] what a shame [07:39:13] for every good use, a thousand idiots hotlinking images from every other wiki [07:39:44] Well it depends on how it's implemented [07:39:53] exactly [07:40:02] which makes the development that much more complex [07:40:13] but hotlinking would be great [07:40:14] can't just write sth that works, no, gotta figure out how to make it not work, too [07:40:23] :/ Hotlinking is evil [07:40:27] see, i want you to buy your own bandwith [07:41:22] *Dantman is tempted now to draft up a set of anti-hotlinking code for nginx [07:42:31] hm ok waht a shame [07:42:33] so many pics [07:43:03] i want that only registered users will allow to update \ post \ edit pages on my wiki... [07:43:07] how can i do that? [07:43:44] that's an easy one imm [07:43:52] i have mine set that way [07:43:57] lemme grab the code [07:44:36] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; # no anon editing [07:44:47] put that in localsettings [07:44:50] yeah [07:44:51] tnx [07:44:52] :) [07:45:19] it is, after all, an obvious precaution [07:45:38] anybody can still create an account and barge in [07:45:57] i already disabled the registration :) [07:45:57] but at least they have to lift their feet to clear the bar, they can't just wriggle in on their bellies [07:46:12] well that would seem to defeat the purpose of a wiki [07:46:26] unless you mean to create accounts for all your buddies [07:46:31] haha but supply my purpose [07:46:40] yeah something like that.. [07:46:48] i'd think the next step up would be enough -- hang captcha on signup [07:47:08] hang captcha? [07:47:29] you're much more likely to get a wikiangel to sign up than a juvenile delinquent [07:47:35] captcha [07:47:42] great works :) [07:47:46] stick that on signup [07:48:17] i don't use it myself but if signups get to be an issue, that's the first step up [07:48:26] anyway [07:48:43] i need help with uploading files to the server [07:48:48] ive added the lines : [07:48:54] sec [07:49:13] ## To enable image uploads, make sure the 'images' directory [07:49:14] ## is writable, then set this to true: [07:49:14] $wgEnableUploads = true; # Enable uploads [07:49:38] done this [07:49:52] and still when i come to upload a image for e.g [07:50:14] it says that some folder ( public ) its not writeable [07:50:21] thus it cant upload [07:50:41] ive tried to add some public folder in some locations with chmod 777 [07:50:45] nothing helps [07:51:01] the image folder is 777 either [07:51:37] http://recaptcha.net/plugins/mediawiki/ [07:58:07] Warning: mkdir() [function.mkdir]: SAFE MODE Restriction in effect. The script whose uid/gid is 40415/40415 is not allowed to access /mounted-storage/home94b/sub006/sc49471-HPSH/www/maagar/images/thumb owned by uid/gid 99/99 in /mounted-storage/home94b/sub006/sc49471-HPSH/www/maagar/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 1649 [07:58:07] ��:Sinxcosxtgx.jpg [08:00:50] ? [08:06:52] Xiong [08:07:00] after i uploading the picture [08:07:04] it shows nothing [08:10:25] !safemode [08:10:25] --mwbot-- safe_mode is an ill-concieved, broken-by-design setting in PHP that is supposed to make broken scripts safe. It was deprecated in PHP5 and removed in PHP6. MediaWiki can run with safe_mode enabled, but many of the advanced features will not work or need additional configuration (image thumbnailing using ImageMagick, for example). See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Safe_mode for more information. [08:11:02] i don't know a way to get thumbnailing to work with safemode since 1.12 [08:11:14] before that, you could change the image dir structure to "flat", and it would work. [08:11:26] ImMortaL: ---^ [08:13:07] "flat" ? [08:14:12] add this lines : [08:14:13] $wgUseImageMagick = true; [08:14:13] $wgImageMagickConvertCommand = "/usr/bin/convert"; [08:14:14] ? [08:14:43] no, that has nothing to do with flat [08:14:57] so whats "flat" and how im doing it? [08:14:58] that just enmabled imagemagick. [08:15:09] !imagemagick [08:15:09] --mwbot-- ImageMagick is a software which can be used with MediaWiki Image Administration. You can read more about it on . ImageMagick is available from . [08:15:41] *Dantman suggests finding a better webhost [08:15:46] ImMortaL: $wgHashedUploadDirectory = false; [08:15:52] and then re-upload your images [08:16:05] but as i said, afaik it does not workj any more in 1.12 (and not sure about 1.11 either) [08:16:13] yes, indeed. [08:16:16] find a better host. [08:16:25] safemode is evil. and stupid. and insecure. [08:16:46] so i dont want to work with safe mode [08:16:50] in addition [08:16:56] ive already the line [08:17:00] ^_^ heh... 'safe' mode is 'insecure' [08:17:01] ## If you want to use image uploads under safe mode, [08:17:01] ## create the directories images/archive, images/thumb and [08:17:01] ## images/temp, and make them all writable. Then uncomment [08:17:01] ## this, if it's not already uncommented: [08:17:01] $wgHashedUploadDirectory = false; [08:17:06] in my localsettings [08:17:34] <_wooz> lo [08:18:20] how can i just upload images regulary [08:18:20] ? [08:18:31] "regulary"? [08:18:40] there's only one way to upload them [08:18:50] you can use them without thumbnailing, by not using the "thumb" keyword [08:19:13] anyway... make sure your image directory (and all subdirectory) are owned by the user used to run the php scripts [08:19:30] that's what safemode is complainingg about, it seems [08:20:07] the uid 40415 is used to run php, but the dir is owned by uid 99 [08:20:26] when i upload the image [08:20:29] i cant see it [08:20:37] it uploads fine [08:20:45] but the image doesn shown.. [08:26:09] ImMortaL: that's because it's thumbnailed per default on the image page. to something like 600x400. upload a smaller image. it should appear unscaled. [08:29:03] hello [08:34:54] 03nikerabbit * r36015 10/trunk/extensions/CleanChanges/ (CleanChanges.i18n.php CleanChanges.php Filters.php): * Committing two hooks for use in betawiki, these hooks are not in the core yet [08:37:22] 03nikerabbit * r36016 10/trunk/extensions/CleanChanges/CleanChanges.php: * I can't type false and php can't say I'm not typing false [09:02:52] hello [09:06:40] I'm unfamiliar with mediawiki and need to modify appearance. Can anyone refer me to a site that describes the major elements? [09:09:39] Zylogue, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skins [09:10:05] AhmadSherif, thanks..I'll start there... [09:12:57] hi ; I've edited LocalSettings.php to add an transwiki import source, and now the whole wiki is broken, displaying "Error, Setup.php must be included from the file scope, after DefaultSettings.php " ; what have I done wrong ? [09:19:28] never mind, I've found out why [10:09:21] Is there a way to include static content in a mediaWiki, that cannot be changed? For example, assume there is a free book and I want to put that in a database by its chapter, page number etc. and include that in my mediaWiki articles without the option of it being changed. Is there something like this? If it is easier than using a db that would be great ;) Background: I would like to... [10:09:23] ...translate a book as a wiki project, but the original should stay static. [10:14:58] Let's play stump the developers. [10:15:31] theKryz: ^_^ You could be lazy and just use a bot to create all the pages then protect them... heh... [10:16:04] Dantman|FS: that'd probably work, but its not very pretty ;) [10:16:48] ^_^ It is when you edit the database later to make it look like god magically imported the book into your wiki ;) rotfl [10:16:50] Where is the script that compares two different revisions and shows the changes? WakkaWiki's isn't good enough for me I don't think. [10:17:29] Crash2108: Eh? What do you mean script? MediaWiki does diffs natively... [10:17:43] ? [10:17:57] You're in the wrong channel [10:18:05] This is for the MediaWiki software not WakkaWiki [10:18:29] 03(mod) Interwiki links to other languages doesn' t use the corresponding font - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13867 +comment (10public.wiki) [10:18:46] That's probably why I'm not asking a wakkawiki question. [10:19:33] Then why are you asking the question in the first place? Because MediaWiki does diffs on it's own and wakawiki's diff engine should have nothing to do with it. [10:19:58] I want to steal it. [10:20:12] And use it in my own wiki software. [10:20:18] Well, that's not really a problem for the devs [10:20:21] Crash2108: includes/DifferenceEngine.php [10:20:48] While the question was posed after a proposed the game, I didn't mean it to be for the game. [10:20:49] Besides... that would be a GPL violation if you want to distribute it [10:21:10] Is it not free software that lets you do whatever you want to it? [10:21:37] maybe read the GPL... http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html [10:21:44] it's free software, it uses a rather restrictive copyleft license called the GPL [10:21:55] which prohibits doing lots of things you might want to [10:22:14] I'll read over it. [10:22:19] ehrn [10:22:25] guess that was the wrong one [10:23:01] http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html [10:23:07] thanks [10:23:38] Quite simply MediaWiki's diff engine is GPL, if you want to distribute something that uses it, then that will have to be GPL as well [10:23:42] so is there no extension or anything for static content? [10:23:58] Hmmm... Think there was one or two [10:24:14] I couldn't find them yet... if you have a link thatd be great :D [10:24:26] I should have suspected this was as complicated and obfuscated as the rest of mediawiki. [10:24:27] no, it _doesn't_ have to be GPL [10:24:32] but there are some things it can't be [10:24:35] Screw it, I'll use my own. [10:24:41] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Include [10:25:06] How about integrated mediawiki with phpBB fully?/ [10:25:23] The mods and extensions there are don't work. [10:25:30] They just copy the users over. [10:25:39] WakkaWiki is BSD... afaik that has less restrictions than the GPL and so you can't convert to it [10:26:21] I'm not using wakkawiki, just using it for inspiration when I'm stuck. [10:26:27] Datrio integrated MediaWiki with phpBB at one point... Though it was largely broken and no-one continued it [10:26:30] Difference is one of them. [10:27:09] It's got a few test uses over at Wikia... But really it's something that the Volunteers want to restart from scratch [10:28:03] Dantman|FS: you can link GPL code with new-style BSD (without the advertising clause) [10:28:21] but the old BSD license (that hardly anyone uses) with the advertising clause conflicts with the GPL [10:28:37] What about inclusion or deriving? [10:28:43] same [10:28:50] eek [10:28:50] thanks & gone [10:29:03] obviously the GPL code doesn't change license, though [10:29:10] Oooh [10:29:31] Wait... then how do you derive something under a different license? [10:30:42] the derivate work (which is the linked binary) is covered by both licenses [10:30:59] that's why some licenses don't work; e.g. the BSD advertising clause requires the user to do something the GPL explicitly forbids [10:31:07] Dual-licensed in other words? [10:31:12] so you couldn't do anything with a derivate work under those licenses [10:31:18] Dantman|FS: not either-or; *both* at once [10:31:25] mhmmm... [10:31:35] ^_^ And that, would be why I stick to a single license... heh [10:31:52] i use a license that doesn't have all these problems; i don't understand why people put up with the GPL [10:35:40] Which do you use? [10:39:43] i wrote my own that has two sentences and says you can do whatever you like [10:43:46] 03huji * r36017 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: Localisation updates: Adding/updating Persian translations [10:46:32] *Dantman|FS prefers to avoid having people do evil things with his code [10:47:34] *VasilievVV rewrites Dantman|FS's code [10:48:33] 03werdna * r36018 10/trunk/extensions/TorBlock/ (TorBlock.class.php TorBlock.php): Add APCOND_TOR autopromote condition. [10:55:25] Werdna: and APCOND_NOTTOR? [10:55:33] Ah, we have ! now [11:03:50] Dude.... [11:03:54] Let's get some tacos... [11:15:33] 03(mod) Flagging revision should use AJAX - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14003 (10N/A) [11:27:11] VasilievVV: I added ! [11:27:25] I see [11:27:26] oh yeah, you noticed. [11:27:33] I meant to commit that yesterday [11:27:36] (the APCOND_TOR) [11:27:44] but I merge-conflicted, and didn't notice [11:37:36] hi [11:37:56] can u help me? [11:38:39] http://mdaneshvar.ir/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page [11:40:35] !ask [11:40:35] --mwbot-- Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [11:42:11] I get this error Warning: array_slice() [11:42:31] languages/Language.php on line 1139 [11:43:09] MostafaDaneshvar: MostafaDaneshvar where'd you get the code from? [11:43:45] mediawiki [11:43:57] yes, where'd you get that from? [11:43:59]