[00:00:10] <AaronSchulz>	Werdna: can you make the global user list check ipb_deleted like listusers does?
[00:02:31] <AaronSchulz>	hmm, that might be a cross-db join :p
[00:05:30] <AaronSchulz>	Werdna: maybe a user_hidden column might make things more consisten
[00:05:35] <AaronSchulz>	*consistent
[00:24:54] <Werdna>	AaronSchulz: i gotta do some schoolwork :/
[00:26:21] <AaronSchulz>	you're still in school?
[00:26:22] <AaronSchulz>	hehe
[00:27:28] <AaronSchulz>	Werdna: also centralauth could set gu_hidden for hidden blocks
[00:27:55] <Dantman>	^_^ I'm still in school... But that doesn't mean I do schoolwork... rotfl...
[00:30:56] <Werdna>	AaronSchulz: I'm in my HSC year. ==> I have to do stuff.
[00:31:09] <Werdna>	HSC = Higher School Certificate
[00:31:33] <Werdna>	the sole basis for university entry in NSW. Your results for your final year of school give you a number called a Universities Admissions Index
[00:31:54] <Werdna>	they take the top X applicants by UAI, and disregard the rest.
[00:32:46] <Werdna>	fortunately, I want to take flexible first year engineering at the university of new south wales, which requires a UAI of 88.0, and, with my current results, I can get 99.60
[00:33:03] <Dantman>	^_^ lucky me... I'm only doing game design... heh
[00:36:48] <CIA-51>	03shinjiman * r36067 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese and Chinese for extension messages
[01:10:39] <abcod>	Hi, i think i've a problem... The images I'm uploading into my wiki won't show up, even though its already uploaded to  the server....
[01:11:37] <abcod>	here's what i meant http://i31.tinypic.com/mc3vcj.png
[01:13:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Expand spam blacklist to include edit and other summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13599  +comment (10brett5)
[01:15:27] <CIA-51>	03aaron * r36068 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Hidden blocks should be permanent only
[01:15:48] <Mookie>	Newbie and writing my first extension. I need to fetch content from an article. I've gotten as deep as Article::fetchContent() but the comments are getting stripped out. Am I missing something in Article or should I be looking as a different class?
[01:16:09] <Mookie>	s/as/at/
[01:19:39] <AaronSchulz>	Simetrical: hmm, I had to check out a new trunk dir
[01:19:48] <AaronSchulz>	the old one gave "cyclic redundancy errors" :(
[01:19:57] <AaronSchulz>	something with logpage.php prolly
[01:20:11] <AaronSchulz>	can't delete it either
[01:23:30] <shaiaqua>	Does wfRunHooks still work as normal in the alpha?
[01:23:54] <shaiaqua>	i included my extensions and it gave PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined function wfRunHooks() in includes\SpecialPage.php on line 204
[01:27:48] <FreeNO>	Hi everyone !
[01:28:16] <FreeNO>	Is there anyone in this channel ?
[01:28:59] <AaronSchulz>	ok, restart time
[01:33:41] <Mookie>	I need to fetch content from an article. I've gotten as deep as Article::fetchContent() but the HTML comments are getting stripped out. Am I missing something in Article or should I be looking at a different class one that gets data in a more raw format?
[01:36:16] <abcod>	anyone knows the problem on why images aren't showing up http://i31.tinypic.com/mc3vcj.png??
[01:37:41] <abcod>	i only changed the IP of my server and after that, images won't show up
[01:49:20] <dmc900>	Hello, I was thinking of making a download extension request for mediawiki and I was wondering if anyone could take a look at a proposal document I created and see if they think it's possible with mediawiki and how much work it should take.
[01:49:33] <dmc900>	The proposal is in .pdf format and can be downloaded here = http://www.designermotion.com/projects/web/mediawiki/docs/mediawiki_proposal_extension_download-v1.pdf
[01:49:54] <pope>	hi
[01:50:48] <pope>	i have a question on configuring your mediawiki software
[01:51:52] <pope>	in the helppages there always some variables must be changed. in which file do i have to do that?
[01:52:46] <dmc900>	which help pages do you speak of?
[01:53:50] <pope>	"Manual:Configuration_Settings"which comes with the wiki for example
[01:56:50] <Mike_lifeguard>	pope: those are changed in localsettings.php
[01:57:17] <pope>	and if they aren't in there yet i have to put them there?
[01:57:27] <Mike_lifeguard>	yes
[01:57:37] <pope>	thank you :)
[01:57:45] <Mike_lifeguard>	you may see the syntax in defaultsettings.php, but do not edit that file
[01:57:49] <Dantman|Coding>	Hmmm....
[01:58:08] <Dantman|Coding>	bleh... picking a license when actually thinking about it is tough...
[01:59:10] <Dantman|Coding>	Now I'm down to the GPL... but can't pick between v2 or v3
[01:59:44] <Mike_lifeguard>	Dantman|Coding: the trick is to /not/ think about it, then, isn't it :)
[01:59:50] <Dantman|Coding>	heh
[02:01:13] <G>	hmmm, I must be missing something from the installer, I'm trying to adapt addwiki in the maintenance directory, but I can only get it to install 'en'
[02:01:34] <^demon>	Dantman|Coding: Flip a coin?
[02:01:40] <Dantman|Coding>	heh
[02:01:53] <G>	I litterally can't see what I'm doing different to the installer though (except not writing the config file)
[02:19:59] <Mookie>	How would I put content from an Article object and keep any embedded HTML contents?
[02:20:04] <Mookie>	s/put/pull/
[02:20:25] <Kimitaka>	What does it mean when it says "the page isn't redirection properly"  I had mediawiki working fine till my provider upgraded and now it's broken
[02:48:21] <Dantman|Coding>	^_^ Yay... they finally turned the proposal into an actual project... http://pear.php.net/package/System_Daemon
[02:49:52] <Mookie>	How would I pull content from an Article object and keep any embedded HTML comments? Article::fetchContent appears to be removing comments.
[02:50:57] <Dantman|Coding>	If you're grabbing the text of a page you should be using the Revision class
[02:51:23] <Mookie>	Excellent! Thanks for the direction.
[03:05:47] <Furry_Fury>	ouch just got backslaped by "SineBot"  again...
[03:06:07] <Charitwo>	i opt-out
[03:06:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) "1071: Specified key was too long" (MySQL error) during installation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322  +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia.org)
[03:07:23] <Mookie>	Hrm, even Revision is stripping the comments.
[03:13:14] <Mookie>	Dang, I just want the raw edit code from an article. Ugly wiki markup and everything.
[03:13:38] <Mookie>	Article and Revision are not giving me this.
[03:22:23] <Furry_Fury>	i cant get {{#time: Y | -1 years}} to work
[03:22:42] <Furry_Fury>	ohh upps
[03:22:45] <Furry_Fury>	duh
[03:23:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Database prefixes not added - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14392  (10N/A)
[03:24:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Database prefixes not added - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14392  (10N/A)
[03:27:08] <Furry_Fury>	well it still doesnt work...
[03:29:35] <Furry_Fury>	all of these work...
[03:29:37] <Furry_Fury>	{{#time: n |30 November 1988 -{{#time:n}} months}}
[03:29:38] <Furry_Fury>	{{#time: j |30 November 1988 -{{#time:j}} days}}
[03:29:40] <Furry_Fury>	{{#time: G |30 November 1988 -{{#time:G}} hours}}
[03:29:41] <Furry_Fury>	{{#time: i |30 November 1988 -{{#time:i}} min}}
[03:29:43] <Furry_Fury>	{{#time: s |30 November 1988 -{{#time:s}} sec}}
[03:29:53] <Furry_Fury>	but this:
[03:29:55] <Furry_Fury>	{{#time: Y |30 November 1988 -{{#time:Y}} years}}
[03:29:56] <Furry_Fury>	wont...
[03:30:20] <Furry_Fury>	i cant figure out why....
[03:31:10] <Furry_Fury>	anyone know why?
[03:31:39] <Mookie>	Ahhh, EditPage has what I want, but apparently accessing the wikitext itself is private function.
[03:32:40] <Furry_Fury>	anyone?
[03:34:29] <designs703>	Which version should I use for building a new site? 1.12?
[03:35:49] <Furry_Fury>	thanks your all a big help...
[03:36:50] <Furry_Fury>	guess i can revert to using a notice...
[03:37:38] --Furry_Fury--	HELLO?
[03:37:43] <OverlordQ>	dont do that
[03:37:50] <Furry_Fury>	then answer me...
[03:38:00] <OverlordQ>	Uh . . no?
[03:38:11] <Mike_lifeguard>	actually we're volunteers; we don't have to do anything
[03:38:33] <Mike_lifeguard>	and if you want any chance of that changing, you'll have to be civil
[03:39:06] <Furry_Fury>	lol that never works..
[03:39:36] <Furry_Fury>	well i can say never...
[03:39:38] <Furry_Fury>	cant*
[03:39:42] <Furry_Fury>	but rarely...
[03:41:43] <Furry_Fury>	you should probably make this channel +t
[03:42:19] <Dantman|Coding>	Hmmm... guess I'm going with GPLv3... though... hmm... wonder how to write a note about a legal proxy into the code
[03:42:28] <Furry_Fury>	else i can do this:
[03:42:49] <nakon>	furry_fury: don't do that.
[03:43:16] <Dantman|Coding>	These kind of channels are active and meant to be open
[03:43:40] <Dantman|Coding>	Rather than being untrusting and using +t ^_^ we just ban the ones that vandalize the topic
[03:43:44] <Dantman|Coding>	heh
[03:44:51] <Charitwo>	IRC:BEANS?
[03:45:00] <Furry_Fury>	not to mention im betting 95% of people dont know how...
[03:45:20] <OverlordQ>	Furry_Fury: that doesn't work because you're "Doing it wrong"
[03:45:51] <Furry_Fury>	only the year one wont work...
[03:46:05] <OverlordQ>	yes there's no such thing as a negative year
[03:46:06] <Furry_Fury>	the rest functin perfectly
[03:46:08] <OverlordQ>	which is why it doesn't work
[03:46:32] <Furry_Fury>	lol oops
[03:47:38] <Dantman|Coding>	^_^ And the blunder of the day... "Hey wait, how did those flying monkeys escape... The world isn't supposed to know of their existence... nooooooo!!!"
[03:54:32] <Furry_Fury>	theres an abs command right?
[03:54:42] <MZMcBride>	Hmm. No?
[03:55:30] <Furry_Fury>	no absolute value?
[03:56:19] <Krimpet>	no six-pack abs here.
[03:58:24] <Furry_Fury>	the have mod round trunc floor ceil... but not abs...
[03:58:41] *Furry_Fury 	ok.....
[03:59:25] <Furry_Fury>	guess ill just multiply it by -1...
[03:59:56] <Furry_Fury>	but thats so crude...
[04:01:32] <Furry_Fury>	what??
[04:02:14] <Furry_Fury>	(2008-1988)*-1 dint equal 80 the last time i checked...
[04:02:40] <Furry_Fury>	ohh oops
[04:02:44] <Furry_Fury>	god..
[04:03:04] <MZMcBride>	If you multiple by -1 and the number is positive, it won't be the absolute value...
[04:05:23] <Furry_Fury>	i know but i know the # is negative
[04:05:46] <Furry_Fury>	but its telling me i cant multiply an error by a #...
[04:05:58] <Furry_Fury>	XD
[04:19:00] <Furry_Fury>	well way to make thing more complex...
[04:19:22] <Furry_Fury>	i got to use this for years:
[04:19:27] <Furry_Fury>	{{#ifexpr: {{#expr: {{#expr:(({{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} - 19881130000000) / 10000000000 )round 0}} > {{#expr:(({{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} - 19881130000000)/ 10000000000 )}} }}| {{#expr:((({{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} - 19881130000000) / 10000000000 )round 0) -1 }} | {{#expr:(({{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} - 19881130000000) / 10000000000 )round 0}} }}
[04:20:41] <Furry_Fury>	of course i cpould use the floor command to shorten that a bit..
[04:22:47] <Furry_Fury>	yay my age is done...
[04:22:49] <Furry_Fury>	Age: 19 years 5 months 21 days 2 hours 37 min 46 sec
[04:23:04] <Furry_Fury>	+ or _ a few hours
[04:23:37] <Furry_Fury>	what a colossal waist of time...
[04:24:47] <MZMcBride>	You could've just used a template from en.wiki.
[04:28:36] <Furry_Fury>	aww bu i wrote all the code myself...
[04:28:52] <Furry_Fury>	''' Age: '''{{#ifexpr: {{#expr: {{#expr:(({{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} - 19881130000000) / 10000000000 )round 0}} > {{#expr:(({{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} - 19881130000000)/ 10000000000 )}} }}| {{#expr:((({{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} - 19881130000000) / 10000000000 )round 0) -1 }} | {{#expr:(({{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} - 19881130000000) / 10000000000 )round 0}} }} years
[04:28:53] <Furry_Fury>	{{#time:  n "months" j "days" G "hours" i "min" s "sec" |30 November 1988  -{{#time:n}} months -{{#time:j}} days -{{#time:G}} hours -{{#time:i}} min -{{#time:s}} sec -3 hours -3 min}}<br/>
[04:28:55] <Furry_Fury>	[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Furry_Fury&action=purge Refresh Age](Registered User's only)
[04:30:04] <Furry_Fury>	not bad for 2 weeks in...
[04:30:36] <Furry_Fury>	although i really only spent about 9 hours
[04:30:50] <Furry_Fury>	in the actuly learning the code syntax and everything
[04:32:22] <Furry_Fury>	its really had to write in code with when u cant define variables
[04:38:39] <Furry_Fury>	wait a sec...
[04:38:57] <Furry_Fury>	i think i much easier way...
[04:46:28] <Furry_Fury>	so en.wiki doesnt use http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VariablesExtension
[04:46:38] <Furry_Fury>	i think it should...
[04:47:03] <Furry_Fury>	If for no other reason than to make me happy...
[04:57:51] <Charitwo>	!rar | Splarka 
[04:57:51] --mwbot--	Splarka: rar
[04:58:41] <Splarka>	!leavemwbottyalone | Charitwo
[04:58:41] --mwbot--	Charitwo: I am not your plaything.
[05:34:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) robots.txt for no.wikipedia.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11432  (10baard)
[06:16:53] <Dantman|Coding>	Ah... crap
[06:17:12] <Charitwo>	O_O
[06:17:30] <Dantman|Coding>	Things look messed up on my webserver
[06:18:37] <Dantman|Coding>	heh nope...
[06:18:57] <Dantman|Coding>	^_^ double reminder to self... DON'T forget the username@ when using a svn+ssh:// url
[06:19:04] <Dantman|Coding>	heh
[06:19:21] <Dantman|Coding>	Now to see if the new firewall breaks anything
[06:22:42] <Dantman|Coding>	Yup
[06:23:43] *Splarka 	wonders if Dan confused #mediawiki for his blog again, tsk
[06:23:48] <Dantman|Coding>	heh
[06:24:22] *Dantman|Coding 	needs to remember to set that up to
[06:28:17] <Charitwo>	!rar
[06:28:17] --mwbot--	rar
[06:28:29] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	!tar
[06:28:29] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "tar". You might try: !domdocument !download !import 
[06:28:31] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	:)
[06:28:53] <Dantman|Coding>	^_^ In the spirit of semi-randomness
[06:28:55] <Dantman|Coding>	!trunk
[06:28:55] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "trunk". You might try: !defaultsettings !help !mwbot !viewvc 
[06:40:39] *AaronSchulz 	looks at SimCity Societies youtube reviews
[06:50:36] <CIA-51>	03siebrand * r36069 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/Translate.i18n.php: Tweak new messages for RC filter. Wording was so compact that it was unclear what the dropdown options were needed for.
[06:54:15] <Zylogue>	greetings...about 20 hours ago I was shown how to change the background for the main content part of the screen.  When I try to extend it to the left column, the top horizontal and footer, they will change for one view, only.  next refresh, the background is back to default.  what am I doing wrong?
[08:09:02] <_wooz>	lo
[08:49:22] <Zylogue>	on http://www.thewitchdiaries.com I have changed the background image on almost the entire site.  How do I get the nav boxen and the footer?
[08:51:11] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Lost definitions in shared.scc on Polish Wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14477 normal; normal; Wikimedia: wikibugs; (xarak)
[08:53:00] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Lost definitions in shared.css on Polish Wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14477  summary (10xarak)
[09:39:14] <ImMortaL>	 hey , i need to add a code for all pages in my wiki system ( for google analytics ) where can i put the code so it will be added for all pages ?
[09:39:31] <flyingparchment>	[[MediaWiki:Common.js]]
[09:40:34] <ImMortaL>	tnx 
[09:40:54] <ImMortaL>	the code has to be JS ?
[09:44:21] <ImMortaL>	flyingparchment
[09:44:26] <ImMortaL>	it didnt add the code
[09:44:28] <ImMortaL>	.........
[09:47:22] <dmc900___>	the code that Google provides is mostly javascript isn't it! I think you just have to remove any html tags surrounding the javascript code!
[09:48:25] <simplechat>	heyyas, i'm wondering if there is any easy way to force a restart on a wiki? force it to deal with changes in localsettings.php ?
[09:49:13] <markie>	ImMortaL: have you put it in common.js?
[09:51:34] <simplechat>	i've tried restarting memcached (assuming it was caching something there)
[09:51:39] <simplechat>	but it doesn't seem to have helped
[09:51:52] <markie>	simplechat: restart apache
[09:52:45] <simplechat>	markie, i'm using lighty
[09:52:48] <simplechat>	same thing though?
[09:52:58] <markie>	should think so
[09:53:33] <simplechat>	yeah
[09:53:35] <simplechat>	still not updating
[09:53:52] <simplechat>	i've set the $wgLogo and $wgFavicon (favicon doesn't exist yet but it will in a few mins)
[09:53:56] <simplechat>	but on the site its still not updated
[09:54:03] <simplechat>	http://betacorp.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
[09:56:10] <simplechat>	markie?
[09:56:26] <markie>	simplechat: stupid q, but you sure youve put the right code in localsettings?
[09:56:46] <phaidros>	hi, I'm having trouble moving mediawiki to a lighty server. phpinfo(); show all mysql libs, mediawiki (fresh configured, old db) says: "Can't contact the database server: MySQL functions missing, have you compiled PHP with the --with-mysql option?"
[09:56:47] <markie>	and the file is in the right location etc?
[09:56:52] <simplechat>	$wgLogo = "http://betacorp.net/wikilogo.png";
[09:56:52] <simplechat>	$wgFavicon = "http://betacorp.net/favicon.ico";
[09:56:56] <simplechat>	that exactly
[09:57:18] <simplechat>	phaidros, have you installed php-mysql?
[09:57:33] <simplechat>	markie, this is in wiki/LocalSettings.php
[09:57:44] <phaidros>	simplechat: yes, for php5, and phpinfo(); works :)
[09:58:02] <simplechat>	phaidros, odd. are you using php-fcgi?
[09:58:15] <markie>	simplechat: you need to use ' instead of "
[09:59:00] <simplechat>	replaced
[09:59:21] <phaidros>	simplechat: nope, standard cgi (/usr/bin/php-cgi)
[09:59:33] <simplechat>	markie and it still doesn't work
[09:59:58] <simplechat>	$wgLogo = 'http://betacorp.net/wikilogo.png';
[09:59:58] <simplechat>	$wgFavicon = 'http://betacorp.net/favicon.ico';
[10:00:03] <phaidros>	simplechat: what should I try? I'm somewhat out of ideas here ..
[10:00:26] <simplechat>	phaidros, i'm not sure, php just worked with me. what distro are you using?
[10:00:41] <phaidros>	simplechat: ubuntu
[10:01:02] <phaidros>	simplechat: php in general works fine for me, just not with mediawiki .. o.O
[10:01:15] <simplechat>	phaidros, do you have anything else touching mysql using php?
[10:01:21] <simplechat>	markie so whats next to check?
[10:01:22] <phaidros>	simplechat: thats the odd thing where I have no idea anymore ..
[10:01:41] <markie>	simplechat: youve deleted default settings yeah
[10:01:42] <phaidros>	simplechat: yes, wakka wiki, other php sites ..
[10:02:02] <simplechat>	markie, where are the default settings?
[10:02:09] <markie>	errr hold on
[10:02:38] <markie>	hmm
[10:02:44] <markie>	right im out of ideas
[10:02:45] <markie>	:-(
[10:02:52] <simplechat>	where are they by default?
[10:02:53] <markie>	dont delete that file :-p
[10:03:46] <simplechat>	yaeh
[10:03:49] <simplechat>	i'm just not sure what to do with it now
[10:05:14] <phaidros>	any ideas anyone?
[10:05:43] <simplechat>	can yas show us the output of phpinfo() ?
[10:07:19] <phaidros>	simplechat: http://pastie.org/211400
[10:08:25] <simplechat>	sweetness
[10:08:26] <simplechat>	http://betacorp.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
[10:08:29] <simplechat>	i shoved it in too early
[10:08:53] <markie>	heh that would do it too :-p
[10:09:01] <markie>	they alwyas go at the bottom :-p
[10:09:55] <phaidros>	is php-db (PEAR) needed for mediawiki ?
[10:10:47] <phaidros>	obviously not, at least it doesn't change the error :)
[10:13:59] <phaidros>	the error gets thrown in Database.php line 446
[10:14:18] <phaidros>	any ideas which file might be missing there?
[10:16:08] <phaidros>	humm ..
[10:22:43] <simplechat>	phaidros, try installing the package
[10:22:52] <simplechat>	did yas just install the mediawiki package?
[10:23:00] <simplechat>	(i did just to make sure that i got everything needed)
[10:26:47] <phaidros>	simplechat: ok, stupid me .. had to update the db .. :/
[10:26:58] <phaidros>	but that error message was somewhat missleading :)
[10:28:29] <simplechat>	ouch
[10:28:31] <simplechat>	update the db?
[10:31:02] <phaidros>	yeah, it seems the DB was from a prior mediawiki version. so running maintenance/update.php helped to get rid of that error message, strangele :D
[10:32:03] <Bust_Ed>	Hi
[10:32:13] <Bust_Ed>	I've problem with "pretty" url
[10:32:31] <Bust_Ed>	Set up as described here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL#Tricks
[10:33:12] <Bust_Ed>	It worked, BUT i can't edit pages.
[10:34:21] <Bust_Ed>	When i'm trying to edit, it opens at http://domain.ru/wiki/index.php?title=Mainpage&action=edit and page is just blank. 
[10:36:38] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Global account status says "All in order" when it's not. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14478 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (mt.cutler)
[10:42:15] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) MediaWiki: upload-maxfilesize should have a div id wrapper on SpecialUpload.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14479 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (brianna.laugher)
[11:01:42] <ImMortaL>	markie
[11:01:46] <ImMortaL>	yes...
[11:01:56] <ImMortaL>	ive put the all code
[11:01:56] <markie>	?
[11:02:14] <markie>	cleared your cache?
[11:02:14] <ImMortaL>	including <script = "text/js..">
[11:02:26] <ImMortaL>	i did
[11:02:30] <ImMortaL>	CTRL+F5
[11:02:34] <ImMortaL>	as it says
[11:03:15] <markie>	hmm
[11:03:17] <markie>	link?
[11:03:24] <ImMortaL>	www.math-pl.co.il/maagar
[11:03:58] <ImMortaL>	http://math-pl.co.il/maagar/index.php/îãéä_åé÷é:Common.js
[11:04:07] <ImMortaL>	this is for the common.js
[11:04:12] <ImMortaL>	(its an hebrew version
[11:04:13] <ImMortaL>	)
[11:05:02] <markie>	your missing an ;
[11:05:17] <ImMortaL>	where
[11:05:19] <markie>	above the code youve put in
[11:05:28] <markie>	</script>;
[11:05:37] <markie>	line 10
[11:06:00] <flyingparchment>	uhm, don't put <script> in JS code
[11:06:05] <flyingparchment>	<script> is an HTML tag
[11:06:14] <ImMortaL>	k
[11:06:48] <markie>	put it in MediaWiki:Copyright instead
[11:06:57] <markie>	if you want 
[11:06:59] <markie>	either or
[11:07:46] <ImMortaL>	http://math-pl.co.il/maagar/index.php/%D7%9E%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94_%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99:Common.js
[11:07:49] <ImMortaL>	ive done this
[11:07:53] <ImMortaL>	still doesnt work
[11:08:07] <markie>	hmm try it in MediaWiki:Copyright
[11:08:17] <markie>	using all of the code they provide
[11:08:35] <ImMortaL>	but i want it in common.js
[11:08:49] <ImMortaL>	k nvm if this is the only option
[11:09:32] <markie>	it should achieve the same outcome
[11:10:25] <ImMortaL>	flyingparchment ?
[11:10:33] <ImMortaL>	sec..
[11:11:32] <ImMortaL>	ok
[11:11:35] <ImMortaL>	it works
[11:11:39] <markie>	:-)
[11:12:11] <ImMortaL>	its not good
[11:12:17] <ImMortaL>	the code need to be in the
[11:12:20] <ImMortaL>	<head> section
[11:13:13] <Bust_Ed>	Does anyone can help me with Short URL?
[11:17:11] <ImMortaL>	markie?
[11:17:29] <markie>	ImMortaL: shouldnt matter
[11:17:36] <ImMortaL>	it does
[11:17:41] <ImMortaL>	google says
[11:17:51] <markie>	yeah i know they do, but it should work anyway
[11:17:55] <ImMortaL>	that it has to be on the head section
[11:18:05] <ImMortaL>	no ..... it wont
[11:18:13] <ImMortaL>	this is the new version of
[11:18:20] <ImMortaL>	google analytics
[11:18:34] <markie>	hmm well i used it in copyright before and it works
[11:18:48] <markie>	admitadely not with this new version you speak of
[11:18:54] <markie>	but i would try it where it is
[11:18:56] <ImMortaL>	the new version of google analytics?
[11:19:11] <ImMortaL>	they have said
[11:19:22] <ImMortaL>	that if it wont be on the head section
[11:19:26] <ImMortaL>	it wont work
[11:22:09] <ImMortaL>	so how can i achieve to the head section ?
[11:24:03] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Lilypond - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14480 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: wikibugs; (frank.braun)
[11:25:18] <CIA-51>	03jojo * r36070 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/pdf-server/ (pdf-server.py pdfserver.py tests.py): PDF server as a JSON-service. Added unittest.
[11:25:18] <CIA-51>	03jojo * r36071 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (Collection.body.php Collection.i18n.php): adjusted Collection extension for new PDF Server
[11:25:18] <CIA-51>	03jojo * r36072 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: added comment about strange link insertion code
[11:28:38] <ImMortaL>	markie / flyingparchment ?
[11:50:37] <ImMortaL>	some1 help plz?
[11:54:24] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) [[Special:MergeAccount]] does not recognize passwords of own accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14481 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (spacebirdy)
[12:05:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) [[Special:MergeAccount]] does not recognize passwords of own accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14481  15enhancement->major (10thogol)
[12:17:22] <tree>	Q: <cynical>My wiki has hit it big time and someone offered to translate the pages into another natural language</cynical>.  Any ideas on what's good route to take when going from a single language wiki to multi?  Does MediaWiki handle this nicely?
[12:35:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Database prefixes not added - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14392  (10innocentkiller)
[12:38:19] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Set $wgGroupPermissions['user']['move-subpages'] = false for en.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14482 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (happy_melon)
[12:39:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) [[Special:MergeAccount]] does not recognize passwords of own accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14481  major->15enhancement; +comment (10vasilvv)
[12:39:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) [[Special:MergeAccount]] does not recognize passwords of own accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14481  15enhancement->04BLOCKER (10vasilvv)
[12:56:32] <Raymond_>	AaronSchulz: awake?
[13:06:13] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Allow modification of a block without unblocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10080  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[13:09:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) [[Special:MergeAccount]] does not recognize passwords of own accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14481  (10spiritia)
[13:18:32] <^demon>	Raymond_: Is CIA dead?
[13:20:58] *ialex 	kills CIA-51
[13:20:59] *CIA-51 	dies
[13:21:07] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) impossible to update mediawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14483 major; normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (bertrand.grondin)
[13:25:31] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) impossible to update mediawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14483  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[13:25:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Database prefixes not added - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14392  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[13:28:41] *Jack_Phoenix 	waves to ialex :-)
[13:28:50] <ialex>	hello Jack_Phoenix :)
[13:28:55] <Jack_Phoenix>	rar
[13:29:10] *^demon 	waves around generally
[13:30:31] <ialex>	hello ^demon
[13:31:37] <^demon>	ialex: Hello :-) How was your weekend?
[13:32:17] <ialex>	^demon: fine, and you ' .9
[13:32:22] <ialex>	hmm :)
[13:32:34] <^demon>	It was good, thanks.
[13:32:42] <^demon>	Relaxed, did nothing Felt good for once :-P
[13:33:54] <Nikerabbit>	hi ialex 
[13:34:08] <ialex>	hello Nikerabbit
[13:39:22] <QuickGold>	I'm having a problem where a page in mediawiki displays correctly but when I go to edit the page, it comes up blank.  Any ideas why this is happening?
[13:41:17] <Gali>	can i ask , href with # (on the same article) can be only only in  "contents" or can be used somehow in all article. I want to ask if is there any hook for getting all hrefs from article.
[13:42:42] <ialex>	QuickGold: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Errors_and_Symptoms#You_see_a_Blank_Page
[13:45:20] <QuickGold>	ialex: Thank you. I solved my problem
[13:46:09] <Jack_Phoenix>	looking at the wikiwyg extension patch for MW 1.10 (http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/wikiwyg/share/MediaWiki/mediawiki-1.10.1bleed.patch?revision=30294&view=markup), I think some of those hooks could be well added into the core...and maybe function getEditingTab() too. thoughts? :-)
[14:02:39] <Jack_Phoenix>	wondering if someone's interested in taking a look at this patch: http://rafb.net/p/XttGs776.html -- the most useful features from the wikiwyg patch that could be incorporated into core and used by other extensions too ;-)
[14:02:51] *Jack_Phoenix 	pokes ialex carefully :-)
[14:04:03] *^demon 	looks
[14:04:07] <ialex>	Jack_Phoenix: you missed global $wgLivePreview;
[14:04:11] *Wiredtape 	pokes Jack_Phoenix harder, take it like a man ;)
[14:04:27] <Jack_Phoenix>	duh :)
[14:04:32] <Jack_Phoenix>	hey Wiredtape, how goes?
[14:04:47] <Gali>	can i ask, table of contents is only extension or is in core Mediawiki? 
[14:05:04] <^demon>	Gali: The TOC is auto-generated by the core when the article is displayed.
[14:05:27] <Wiredtape>	Hey Jack_Phoenix, ialex :) -> what's this wikiwyg you're talking about.. (going good actually, have incorporated mootools into wiki.. you would probably like the stuff it allows)
[14:05:45] <Gali>	^demon: is possible to get links to parts of article by TOC via hook or something similar?
[14:06:03] <Jack_Phoenix>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikiwyg -- a WYSIWYG editor for MediaWiki that's relatively b0rken and requires core patches (eww)
[14:06:21] <Jack_Phoenix>	I've been thinking myself that maybe some of the wikiwyg patches could be added into core, not all of them, but some
[14:06:23] <Gali>	i dont like to parse wikitext by myselft to find out where to link.
[14:06:42] <^demon>	Gali: Not as far as I know?
[14:06:43] <Wiredtape>	Gali well... that's quite simple really... every header becomes a link into the toc... so just link based on <h*> 
[14:07:07] <Wiredtape>	Jack_Phoenix : is it a nice wikiwyg?
[14:07:56] <Wiredtape>	meaning-> can you add custom macro's to it?
[14:07:59] <^demon>	Grep'ing the entire MW core plus extensions takes time :(
[14:08:20] <Jack_Phoenix>	it was relatively experimental at the time when it was released, but if I had to pick from Wikiwyg and FCKeditor, I'd pick Wikiwyg. Of course, getting those nasty JS errors fixed would be nice <g>
[14:08:38] <Jack_Phoenix>	and dunno about custom macros, hmm
[14:09:36] <Wiredtape>	Jack_Phoenix : those should be relatively simple to make.. add a mediawiki:message with custom wikitext/code and have that map to an icon on the wikiwyg panel
[14:09:49] <Jack_Phoenix>	that'd be cool ^_^
[14:10:06] <^demon>	Jack_Phoenix: Would bug 11951 make life easier?
[14:10:14] <Wiredtape>	and you could have a message page that would define the "macro panel" to make it easier for storage purposes
[14:10:18] <^demon>	(making EditPage::getEditToolbar() static)
[14:11:10] <Jack_Phoenix>	^demon, hmm, quite likely it'd make life easier ;-)
[14:11:23] <Gali>	can i ask where should i find generating of TOC?
[14:11:37] <Wiredtape>	Gali propbably in the article.php
[14:12:01] <^demon>	Jack_Phoenix: I'm looking at committing it now. No reason not to, I see.
[14:12:10] <Jack_Phoenix>	cool :-)
[14:12:39] <Gali>	Wiredtape: thx, i am going tolook inside.
[14:12:43] <Wiredtape>	Jack_Phoenix : take a look at the bottom of http://en.wiredtape.com/wiki/Sandbox to see an example of some of the stuff mootools enables :) (ps: click on the "test1", "test2", "test3" buttons)
[14:12:54] <Wiredtape>	Gali: np
[14:14:17] <Jack_Phoenix>	Wiredtape: oooh, that's very cool :D
[14:15:33] <Jack_Phoenix>	ialex: http://rafb.net/p/bA8zUK85.html -- now with global $wgLivePreview; in the appropriate place ;-)
[14:15:58] <Wiredtape>	check out the stuff on www.mootools.net :) i really like the slider they have in the beginning - that's the next thing i incorporate :) 
[14:16:30] <Gali>	Wiredtape: i found it in Linker.php finallly :)
[14:16:53] <Wiredtape>	Gali: heh.. ok :) (I wonder why it's in Linker.php? )
[14:17:38] <^demon>	Jack_Phoenix: Done.
[14:17:41] <^demon>	!r 36081
[14:17:41] --mwbot--	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=36081
[14:17:49] <Jack_Phoenix>	^demon, cool, thanks :)
[14:18:07] <Gali>	Wiredtape: i am not one who should  be asked :)
[14:18:32] *^demon 	remembers when $wgLivePreview was enabled.
[14:18:38] <^demon>	I hated it :(
[14:18:41] <QuestPC>	Hi! I am having troubles with my simple skinned namespaces extension. So there are questions to people who know mediawiki internals.
[14:18:50] <Wiredtape>	gali: yeah that was just me asking whoever... :)
[14:18:51] <Jack_Phoenix>	mootools seem very cool :->
[14:19:07] <Wiredtape>	Jack_Phoenix : :)
[14:19:26] <Jack_Phoenix>	MediaWiki needs more ajax functions in general <g>
[14:20:07] <QuestPC>	I've choosed MediaWikiPerformAction hook. it seems to work fine. jet, its been called few times. for my pafe with have namespace ID = 104 it's called second time from RawPage.php with namespace = 0 and so my skin is rewerted back to default :-(
[14:20:25] <QuestPC>	pafe=page
[14:21:10] <QuestPC>	I've thought that RawPage should be performed only with action=raw. my HTTP headers sent without that
[14:21:16] <Wiredtape>	Jack_Phoenix : working on it ;)
[14:21:26] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Make getEditToolbar() in includes/EditPage.php static - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11951  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[14:21:30] <QuestPC>	I don't call action=raw.
[14:21:34] <Rave21>	hi all!!! is it possible to have every page created by a user to be insert automatically in his watchlist? tnx
[14:21:36] <^demon>	Jack_Phoenix: I was just looking at the svn users list...let me get this straight....Your wiki username is Sayuri, your svn commit name is ashley, but your real name is Jack?
[14:21:45] <Jack_Phoenix>	yah, something like that ;->
[14:21:56] *^demon 	is confused
[14:22:00] <Jack_Phoenix>	maybe better known as that "damn mean wikia janitor" :>
[14:22:45] <QuestPC>	Does anyone knows, why the page with namespace=104 is being called from RawPage.php with namespace=0 ?
[14:23:13] <Wiredtape>	Rave21: in the user properties you can set: add pages i create to watchlist... 
[14:23:53] <Wiredtape>	Rave21: if you want that to happen to all users you should set the $wgDefaultUserOptions array to have that as true... (i think it was $wgDefaultUserOptions)
[14:23:54] <^demon>	Jack_Phoenix: Does bug 12251 make *any* sense at all?
[14:24:34] <Rave21>	oh thanks. i' don't see that
[14:25:05] <Jack_Phoenix>	^demon, looks quite wtf to me :) but better ask a senior dev, such as ialex, to review these kind of cases, I don't know too much ;-)
[14:25:23] <ialex>	Jack_Phoenix: senoir dev ? O_o
[14:25:25] <flyingparchment>	ialex is a senior developer?  our standards must've gone way down ;-)
[14:25:42] <ialex>	flyingparchment: :D
[14:25:44] <Jack_Phoenix>	well, that's just in my opinion :>
[14:26:00] <Nikerabbit>	hehe
[14:26:30] <Nikerabbit>	ialex is the old guy with a beard!
[14:26:36] <^demon>	Santa?
[14:26:44] <Wiredtape>	hence a senior :) (demon: lol!)
[14:27:41] <^demon>	I am suddenly reminded of my "Dear Santa" letter I wrote to the engineers back around Christmas. :-P
[14:28:29] <ialex>	^demon, Jack_Phoenix: don't we have hooks for this ?
[14:28:35] <QuestPC>	Mrs senior developers, may you suggest a workaround for my case? RawPage seems to choose namespace 0 regardless of actual page namespace.. I probably should check whether it's possible to detect from my hook.
[14:29:06] <^demon>	ialex: Hooks for what, specifically?
[14:29:20] <ialex>	^demon: bug 12251
[14:29:28] <ialex>	the patch
[14:30:19] <^demon>	ialex: I would go so far as to say he's asking for a duplication of $wgGroupPermissions[]['read']? I really don't know what he's asking for.
[14:31:11] <ialex>	^demon: anyway, that patch is obsolete, as now hook is run before the check of $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read']
[14:32:02] <^demon>	ic ic.
[14:32:09] <Nikerabbit>	ör
[14:32:26] <Nikerabbit>	is this the case when domas shortcutted the default case?
[14:32:44] <domas>	\o/
[14:33:12] <tree>	Q: <cynical>My wiki has hit it big time and someone offered to translate the pages into another natural language</cynical>.  Any ideas on what's good route to take when going from a single language wiki to multi?  Does MediaWiki handle this nicely?
[14:34:22] <Nikerabbit>	tree: if nothing else I'm going to develop such feature this summer...
[14:34:25] <domas>	tree: of course!
[14:34:29] <domas>	tree: run another instance ;-)
[14:34:32] <QuestPC>	tree: interwiki, that's explained somewhere on http://mediawiki.org. as the text is stored with UTF8 you may use any language available
[14:34:36] <tree>	Yeah -- I was afraid of that.
[14:34:57] <tree>	I don't want to start creating instances for each language.
[14:35:12] <tree>	Hmm..
[14:35:15] <QuestPC>	tree: besides, there's $wgContLang which can temporarily switch default language for menus and UI
[14:35:39] <QuestPC>	tree: I use it on my single instace wiki
[14:35:58] <Nikerabbit>	QuestPC: what?! changing $wgContLang will break things
[14:35:59] <tree>	Multi-language on a single wiki?
[14:36:04] <Gali>	can i use array $tocraw to get local references in article? (like in TOC?)
[14:36:16] <Gali>	in code http://rafb.net/p/2ybJmu41.html
[14:37:17] <QuestPC>	Nikerabbit: why? it seems to work I still haven't got any report from wiki users. most of pages are in Russian, but some use $wgContLang="en";
[14:37:39] <Nikerabbit>	everything from caching to links.. whatever
[14:37:40] <QuestPC>	I pass it as part of HTTP GET request
[14:38:09] <Jack_Phoenix>	ialex: so, your thoughts on the wikiwyg patch? dare I commit it or will Brion come and revert it and stab me right after the commit? ;-)
[14:38:23] <Nikerabbit>	wikiwyg?
[14:38:44] <Nathrael>	Um, well, I don't really like to be one of those "join - ask beginner's questions" people, but, may someone spare a little time for me? I just set up my own wiki on my home server a couple of days ago, but I'm experiencing some problems importing templates, and couldn't find too much on the Internet...
[14:38:48] <Jack_Phoenix>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikiwyg -- a WYSIWYG editor for MediaWiki that's relatively b0rken
[14:38:53] <Jack_Phoenix>	and requires core patches too
[14:38:59] <QuestPC>	Nikerabbit: then why there's a such variable if it breaks things? well maybe I've unnoticed about caching. links are working.
[14:39:30] <Jack_Phoenix>	so I'm trying to ease the patching a bit and incorporate some of the things into MW core and... http://rafb.net/p/bA8zUK85.html ;-)
[14:39:43] <Nikerabbit>	it's a global, not a configuration variable
[14:40:03] <Gali>	Nikerabbit: it was response to me? "everything from caching to links.. whatever"
[14:40:13] <Nikerabbit>	Gali: no
[14:40:24] <Gali>	ok
[14:40:26] <QuestPC>	Nikerabbit: that's strange, there's global $wgLang already
[14:40:56] <Nikerabbit>	Jack_Phoenix: why are you duplicating hooks in editpage?
[14:41:04] <Nikerabbit>	QuestPC: what about it?
[14:41:14] <CIA-51>	03jojo * r36074 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (4 files in 2 dirs): replaced pdf-server.py with pdf-server.py
[14:41:24] <ialex>	QuestPC: $wgLang is user language and $wgContLang is site language
[14:41:49] <Jack_Phoenix>	I am? I blame the original creator of the patch, then ;-) after all, it was designed for 1.10 and not for 1.13a
[14:41:59] <QuestPC>	Nikerabbit: why specifying language twice, then? I've thought that $wgLang is global while $wgContLang is for temporarily switching to another language. it works this way on my wiki
[14:42:38] <QuestPC>	$wgContLang corresponds to HTTP GET uselang= variable. it's not really global.
[14:42:47] <Nikerabbit>	QuestPC: just like ialex said, it's two different languages, not configuration variables
[14:42:55] <Nikerabbit>	QuestPC: no it doesn't
[14:42:58] <Nikerabbit>	$wgLang does
[14:43:41] <QuestPC>	Nikerabbit: hm, maybe. anyway, one of these can be overriden with uselang to build one-instance multilanguage wiki
[14:43:42] <ialex>	QuestPC: $wgContLang *only* depend of $wgContLanguage, nothing else
[14:43:53] <ialex>	*depends
[14:44:25] <Nikerabbit>	and $wgContLanguages is the only configuration variable related to languages... and even it shouldn't change after installing
[14:45:49] <QuestPC>	Nikerabbit: too bad, sorry. I can't live without it. I found it's very handy to have multiple languages in one wiki. my database is UTF8.
[14:45:55] <Nikerabbit>	anyway, Jack_Phoenix, didn't you ask if you can commit it?
[14:46:02] <Jack_Phoenix>	ya
[14:46:13] <Nikerabbit>	QuestPC: database has nothing to do with it
[14:46:18] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Show that a redirect will redirect in preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14484 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (dgerard)
[14:46:31] <Jack_Phoenix>	making wikiwyg work under 1.13alpha would be quite sweet ;-)
[14:46:46] <Nikerabbit>	and neither am I  interested in how you run or break your wiki... so do what you want
[14:47:02] <Nikerabbit>	Jack_Phoenix: doing wikiwyg the proper way would be sweeter
[14:47:11] <Jack_Phoenix>	true <g>
[14:47:53] <Gali>	is possible to make natural join to database via Database->select(...)?
[14:48:16] <QuestPC>	Nikerabbit: well. imagine, your wiki is 90% in Russian with Russian menus and UI. you need to add few pages in English or another language. They would look strange with Russian menus. And it's too much work to add another wiki just for few pages in another languages.
[14:48:40] <domas>	Gali: why would you ever do a natural join
[14:49:27] <QuestPC>	Nikerabbit: isn't uselang is for that?
[14:49:36] <CIA-51>	03kim * r36082 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/voctrain/ (controller.php i18n/language.i18n.php question.php view.php): 
[14:49:36] <CIA-51>	Small changes:
[14:49:36] <CIA-51>	* usability: trim() user-provided answers (some people hit space a lot?)
[14:49:36] <CIA-51>	* i18n: translations (minor)
[14:49:37] <CIA-51>	* ui:swap question words and dictdef
[14:49:39] <CIA-51>	* ui/i18n: allow user to switch languages more than once.
[14:49:50] <^demon>	Yay, CIA :-)
[14:50:30] <Gali>	domas: i want to make JOIN on two columns from different tables with same column name.
[14:51:31] <kb8rjy>	Is there any way to make the wiki not care about the case of the page title when going to a page?  That is to say, if I create a page called "http://test/wiki/index.php/deploy", I want the pages "http://test/wiki/index.php/DePlOy" and "http://test/wiki/index.php/DEPLOY" to all go to that page also...
[14:51:44] <QuestPC>	Nikerabbit: well, maybe it's broken but I don't see where. certainly, if the wiki was really broken someone probably would notice after a year of usage.
[14:53:42] <QuestPC>	Nikerabbit: if you can provide a request or action which performs incorrectly, that's great.
[14:54:18] <^demon>	kb8rjy: The case-sensitivity matters except for the first character (and it can be case sensitive too, if you disable $wgCapitalLinks)
[14:54:51] <kb8rjy>	^demon: yeah, I figued it did.... just didn't know if there was a way around it.  Thanks though :)
[14:55:44] <^demon>	kb8rjy: No problem.
[14:55:47] <Gali>	do someone know how to make natural join to database with Database->select(...)?
[14:56:16] <kb8rjy>	^demon:  but... the idea of disabling the $wgCapitalLinks function can help me to standardize things... I'll just tell everyone to use all lower case.  Thanks again :)
[14:56:51] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: did you check ./extensions/MetavidWiki/includes/MV_MetavidInterface/MV_EditPageAjax.php:590:                  $toolbar = $this->getEditToolbar();
[14:57:12] <Wiredtape>	ok, this is going to be an interesting question.. :) I have a template that adds a bunch of h3's into a page.. and now the page that includes this template gets a small toc in the template... I want to supress this toc.. but not the pages toc..
[14:57:57] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: I saw it, didn't really look heavily. I will now.
[14:58:59] <Nikerabbit>	Wiredtape: are you saying you get two tocs?
[15:00:06] <Wiredtape>	Nikerabbit: no.. i get one toc.. but it includes the headers from the template.. and in fact it appears inside the template table... (example: http://en.wiredtape.com/wiki/United_States_Citizenship_and_Immigration_Services)
[15:01:27] <CIA-51>	03demon * r36083 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/includes/MV_MetavidInterface/MV_EditPageAjax.php: Minor fix to MetavidWiki. Use static accessor to EditPage::getEditToolbar().
[15:01:30] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: There you go ^^^
[15:01:56] <Nikerabbit>	..
[15:02:10] <Nikerabbit>	you want to hide headers coming from the template from the toc?
[15:02:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) allow cropping images when rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7757  (10edward)
[15:02:25] <Wiredtape>	Nikerabbit : yes.
[15:04:21] <LeonWP>	hi
[15:04:47] <Jody>	hey, i have a question regard forms specifically the semantic forms. is it possible to display the editing toolbar from a form.
[15:04:50] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED)  Configuration variable to truncate or disable automatic edit summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8968  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[15:05:16] <Wiredtape>	Jody, ask in: http://groups.google.com/group/semantic-forms
[15:05:39] <Nikerabbit>	Jody: i don't think there's any semantic developers here currently
[15:06:17] <Wiredtape>	Jody: also, I don't think it is possible unless you change the sf core.. (need to add the toolbar)
[15:06:29] <Jody>	ok thanks, i figured i could just use the javascript that displays the form and run it from the form page. 
[15:06:39] <CIA-51>	03huji * r36084 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: Localisation updates: Adding/updating Persian translations
[15:07:13] <Jack_Phoenix>	so, what's the final decision on my wikiwyg patch? anyone? :)
[15:07:23] <Wiredtape>	Jody: you could... 
[15:07:41] <Wiredtape>	Nikerabbit : any ideas regarding supressing toc from template headers?
[15:08:01] <Jody>	yeah ok, i'll poke around the SF core. it would be better to display it from there.
[15:09:29] <^demon>	Jack_Phoenix: Don't you have SVN access?
[15:09:36] <Jack_Phoenix>	^demon, I do
[15:09:52] <Jack_Phoenix>	but an opinion or two on core patches can never hurt,  can it now? ;-)
[15:10:03] <Jody>	also, is there a mediaWiki markup character for the null character i want my variable from my form to be created even if the user enters no data.so i get varable= on the page and my template suppresses the output, right now if theres no data it does not create the variable and my page displays {{{variable_name}}}
[15:10:30] <^demon>	Jack_Phoenix: I've got no real opposition, but I'm also not a voice of authority.
[15:10:46] <Jack_Phoenix>	:-)
[15:11:23] <Gali>	is there convient way to get references generated by TOC in extension?
[15:11:41] <Wiredtape>	Jody: set a default=value and have a #if function check for value.. or just set default to blank... 
[15:11:56] <Wiredtape>	Gali: explain that again?
[15:12:45] <Wiredtape>	Nikerabbit : nm, i solved the problem in a different way.. (but this might be something others would be interested in...)
[15:12:59] <Gali>	Wiredtape: look here..http://rafb.net/p/2ybJmu41.html  there is tocraw which holds intersting data which could be used. but there no hook for it.
[15:14:00] <Wiredtape>	Gali: what interesting data is there?
[15:14:42] <Gali>	Wiredtape: links of TOC to document (it seems).
[15:15:34] <Wiredtape>	Gali: i'm not really understanding you.. you want the header links? what do you want to do with them?
[15:16:21] <Nikerabbit>	Jack_Phoenix: I'm against.. but you probably knew that already
[15:16:22] <Jody>	yeah default=anything outputs "anything" to the page, and default=  just ignores the parameter
[15:16:51] <Gali>	Wiredtape: lets see, i want to add from GoogleMaps objects links to parts of article (same as TOC), but i need to get them to do it.
[15:16:55] <CIA-51>	03siebrand * r36085 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/voctrain/i18n/language.i18n.php: Fix Kim's fix
[15:17:32] <Wiredtape>	Jody: then as i said.. set default=1 and then have a parser function supress that if the value = 1... 
[15:17:34] <Jack_Phoenix>	yay, one for and one against - it's a tie ^_^
[15:19:00] <kb8rjy>	What's the best way to change page titles?  Manually editing the sql data?
[15:19:02] <Wiredtape>	Gali: that means you want to connect the different subjects to that object.. ok.. so just have links that display the header values... ? and they link is : <articleurl>#<headervalue>
[15:19:51] <Jody>	OHHHH
[15:19:59] <Jody>	yeah. good one Wiredtape
[15:20:36] <Wiredtape>	Jody: np
[15:20:38] <^demon>	siebrand: Ping
[15:20:51] <siebrand>	^demon: pong!
[15:21:23] <^demon>	siebrand: It's back in SVN again, with a new message. :-P
[15:21:25] <Gali>	Wiredtape: yes thats true, but I need to get all headervalues of article (to be valid links).
[15:21:39] <siebrand>	^demon: yep. Saw that. Thanks.
[15:21:46] <^demon>	No problem :-)
[15:21:56] <Jody>	as for the toolbar in the form the Semantic developer tried and failed to display it. I may have a stab at it after i'm done setting up this wiki.
[15:22:15] <siebrand>	^demon: on my list was checking if the message you replaced has been retired (if used no where else)
[15:22:35] <Wiredtape>	Gali: then add a small hook to the toc function you show and take those links and spew them out to your object via extension.. (i don't know if anyone else would want to add this hook to core... )
[15:22:36] <Gali>	Wiredtape: i want to create GUI interface for doing it (not manually) so then i need to get them from wiki system..
[15:22:50] <^demon>	siebrand: API still calls it. Doesn't look really *used* by the API, but that's a question for Roan.
[15:23:20] <Wiredtape>	gali: in that case then what i said doesn't work... you need to parse the html output of every article yourself.. parse it for headers and output links...
[15:24:54] <Gali>	Wiredtape: ok i will think of your ways. But  I think first way is more convient for me.
[15:25:37] <Wiredtape>	Gali: what was the first way? 
[15:26:36] <Gali>	making own hook for getting tocraw..  ( i think editor of wikitext cannot create form any point of text link to another point of same article? Am i right?)
[15:27:24] <Gali>	I assumed that only TOC section can make href=#topartofArcicle.
[15:28:35] <Wiredtape>	Gali: no, you can [[{{PAGENAME}}#Header 1]] for instance...
[15:28:43] <^demon>	Gali: Nothing prevents you from making an inline link to it.
[15:29:25] <Gali>	hmm.. so then only parsing of wikitext can be used for it :(
[15:29:43] <Wiredtape>	Gali: ?? 
[15:31:09] <Gali>	Wiredtape: that i neeed to parse HTML output for getting links to same article ..
[15:31:43] <Gali>	ok, i must quit, but i will have question lateer (about 45 minutes :) ).. good bye and have good time.
[15:31:54] <LeonWP>	siebrand, hey :)
[15:36:52] <siebrand>	LeonWP: have to go in a few mins. :(
[15:37:12] <LeonWP>	ok :) seems we never really meet :)
[15:38:13] <siebrand>	LeonWP: exactly. I'll be home while the Dutch team plays, probably. WIll you be online or are you a football lover?
[15:39:34] <LeonWP>	I won't be watching football, though I won't be home either ;o
[15:50:33] <asmarin>	i enable svg on my wiki, thumbnails doesnt show correctly, but image on real size looks fine.
[15:50:46] <asmarin>	i use rsvg
[15:50:50] <asmarin>	any suggestion?
[15:55:40] <Duesentrieb>	asmarin: svg's don't have a real size. so that seems quite strange.
[15:55:56] <asmarin>	yeah
[15:56:06] <asmarin>	see that http://enciclopedia.us.es/index.php/Imagen:C%C3%B3digo_QR_Ej%C3%A9mplo_de_Estructura.svg
[15:56:09] <Duesentrieb>	either it renders, or it doesn't.
[15:56:27] <Duesentrieb>	asmarin: it sais "rsvg: command not found"
[15:56:33] <asmarin>	uhhhmm ok
[15:56:40] <asmarin>	need swsvgpath
[15:56:47] <asmarin>	and use imagemagick
[15:56:54] <Duesentrieb>	asmarin: if you click on it, you'll get the actual, unrendered svg data. your browser may or may nto know how to render it itself
[15:57:06] <Duesentrieb>	imagemagick is TERRIBLE at rendering svg
[15:57:09] <Duesentrieb>	close to unusable
[15:57:10] <asmarin>	ok i understand
[15:57:18] <asmarin>	i know i know im reading doc
[15:59:34] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Show that a redirect will redirect in preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14484  +comment (10brion)
[15:59:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Redirect graphic not shown in preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2333  +comment (10brion)
[16:00:05] <asmarin>	hehehe i forget to install binary files for svg
[16:01:50] <asmarin>	oopsss gets a lot of time!
[16:03:12] <CIA-51>	03vrandezo * r36086 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/storage/SMW_SQLStore2_Queries.php: table name for temporary tables
[16:06:42] <MinuteElectron>	:)
[16:12:37] <asmarin>	strange, if i use > 400 px on svg thumbnails fails
[16:15:13] <khaur>	hi, i'd like to follow what's happening in my wiki through the rss feed, but in order to see the feed i have to login to the wiki - and I can't login with my rss feed reader. any suggestions for getting around this problem? i guess i need some kind of script that periodically fetches the feed for me.
[16:16:38] <asmarin>	duesentrieb: thanks a lot for information :-D
[16:16:40] <asmarin>	bye
[16:25:42] <MinuteElectron>	one moment
[16:25:45] <MinuteElectron>	gah
[16:35:13] <jeromyu>	brion 
[16:36:19] <ImMortaL>	hey , im using the heb version of mediawiki
[16:36:31] <ImMortaL>	i would like to know how to write on the left side
[16:36:42] <ImMortaL>	i mean there isnt something like
[16:36:50] <ImMortaL>	<div align="left">
[16:37:05] <jeromyu>	ops seems the wrong channel :p
[16:37:19] <ImMortaL>	o sry it works
[16:37:22] <ImMortaL>	anyway
[16:37:45] <ImMortaL>	i wanna know how can i add a code to all pages on my wiki system in the <head> section ?
[16:39:40] <CIA-51>	03nikerabbit * r36087 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * Small improvements found in Betawiki
[16:46:04] <ImMortaL>	i wanna know how can i add a code to all pages on my wiki system in the <head> section ?
[16:48:28] <ImMortaL>	how do i use texvc?
[16:49:28] <CIA-51>	03nikerabbit * r36088 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (RcFilter.php Translate.i18n.php ffs/Simple.php): * New filter option and fix to export
[16:51:20] <ImMortaL>	!texvc
[16:51:20] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Math
[16:57:36] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) enable namespace inversion (&invert=1) for other special: pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14485 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (charlottethewebb)
[17:02:24] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) LivePreview does not render CSS or JavaScript pages correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14486 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (minuteelectron)
[17:02:57] <ImMortaL>	!<head>
[17:02:57] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "<head>".
[17:03:00] <ImMortaL>	!head
[17:03:00] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "head". You might try: !csshideheader 
[17:03:10] <ImMortaL>	!csshideheader 
[17:03:10] --mwbot--	To hide the header on the main page, you need to add this CSS to the wiki page [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]: "body.page-Main_Page h1.firstHeading { display: none; }". If your main page's title is not "Main Page", you'll need to change it accordingly (look at the class on the <body> tag in the HTML source).
[17:04:02] <ImMortaL>	!header
[17:04:02] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "header". You might try: !csshideheader 
[17:04:40] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) add Bugzilla to unified login :P - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14487 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User login/settings; (charlottethewebb)
[17:05:32] <jimbojw>	hey all, quick question - does WMF still use Lucene for search? or something else
[17:11:04] <ialex>	does somebody know why is parser cache disabled if user has a non-zero stub threshold option, although this option is in the parser cache key?
[17:12:02] <CIA-51>	03brion * r36089 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/ (7 files in 2 dirs): 
[17:12:02] <CIA-51>	Revert to CentralAuth state as of r35994, reverting:
[17:12:02] <CIA-51>	* r35995 - removal of administration features
[17:12:02] <CIA-51>	* r35997 - unexpected schema changes, needs review
[17:14:00] <brion>	ialex: stub threshold is open-ended, so we could end up with hundreds of times necessary cache
[17:14:10] <brion>	if we limited it to a couple options it wouldn't be as bad
[17:14:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Exclude stubs from Special:Random - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14451  +comment (10jorohr)
[17:15:32] <ialex>	jimbojw: https://wikitech.leuksman.com/view/Search
[17:16:04] <jimbojw>	thanks ialex 
[17:17:25] <ImMortaL>	i wanna know how can i add a code to all pages on my wiki system in the <head> section ?
[17:18:26] <CIA-51>	03shinjiman * r36090 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese and Chinese for extension messages
[17:19:25] <Shinjiman>	woops, wrong summary have been entered.... :(
[17:20:29] <CIA-51>	03brion * r36091 10/trunk/phase3/tests/test-prefetch-stub.xml: Revert r36033 -- this is for the stub mode output, which does indeed use that. And yes, I'm aware it doesn't match the schema, which is really meant for the final output, not the stub output.
[17:20:53] <brion>	ImMortaL: use the handy hooks for it
[17:22:59] <ImMortaL>	!hooks
[17:22:59] --mwbot--	Hooks allow you to run functions at various points in the main MediaWiki code. For more information about using hooks in MediaWiki, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks>.
[17:25:30] <^demon>	brion: Got the fixed version of "tweak block" into SVN earlier today. Should be good to go finally :-)
[17:26:16] <ImMortaL>	brion : ive found this - http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7705&highlight=head
[17:26:53] <ImMortaL>	so i need to create a file (with what suffix?) and what do i do in the localsetting?
[17:30:11] <sdwrage>	Hey all
[17:30:20] <sdwrage>	I have a table with items I need to have anchors
[17:30:25] <sdwrage>	how would I achieve this?
[17:33:43] <sdwrage>	anyone?
[17:35:35] <sdwrage>	How do I add headlines to table elements
[17:42:25] <brion>	AaronSchulz: ipb_expiry_temp seems a confusing message name to me
[17:42:53] <brion>	ImMortaL: if it's a short func you can just stick it in your LocalSettings.php directly, but be sure not to lose it :)
[17:43:31] <brion>	sdwrage: you can stick a name="blah" or id="blah" on a <td> directly, or in the space between the || on a wiki table layout
[17:45:52] <ImMortaL>	brion does the code http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7705&highlight=head here 
[17:45:59] <ImMortaL>	where he says to put the js code
[17:46:01] <sdwrage>	Thank you
[17:46:12] <ImMortaL>	so the js script has to be under .'code' also ?
[17:47:26] <brion>	just put your code in in a sensible fashion
[17:48:43] <ImMortaL>	$script =   '<script type="text/javascript" language="javascript">'
[17:48:43] <ImMortaL>	. 'function myJsFunction()'
[17:48:43] <ImMortaL>	. '{'
[17:48:43] <ImMortaL>	. '}'
[17:48:43] <ImMortaL>	. '</script>';
[17:48:49] <ImMortaL>	now 
[17:48:53] <ImMortaL>	between the { } 
[17:48:57] <ImMortaL>	i need to put the code
[17:49:06] <ImMortaL>	im asking, does the code need to be under
[17:49:09] <ImMortaL>	. ' ' also ?
[17:50:03] <OverlordQ>	yes
[17:50:27] <brion>	well, basically you need to
[17:50:31] <brion>	a) know what you're doing with javascript
[17:50:37] <brion>	b) put the javascript code into a string
[17:50:59] <brion>	c) replace the sample with your actual code
[17:53:20] <CIA-51>	03brion * r36092 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: update comment w/ new location of js funcs
[17:57:30] <CIA-51>	03ialex * r36093 10/trunk/phase3/ (7 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[17:57:30] <CIA-51>	Some tweaks to the {{int:...}} parser function:
[17:57:30] <CIA-51>	* Respect the language given with parser options
[17:57:30] <CIA-51>	* Replace parameters before expanding its own templates/functions, like $wgOut->addWikiMsg() does
[17:57:30] <CIA-51>	* (bug 14404) Force content language when parsing the text to pass to LinksUpdate
[17:57:31] <CIA-51>	And some tweaks at save time:
[17:57:33] <brion>	hmmmm
[17:57:35] <CIA-51>	* Use an anonymous user to get the parser options and the parser cache key, thus wikitext rendering is not depending of some sepcific user options such as lang, ...
[17:57:44] <brion>	^demon: something's odd; i managed to create a second block on 10.0.0.2 somehow
[17:58:16] <^demon>	brion: Should you not be able to block an IP if the overlying range is blocked?
[17:58:28] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) {{int:X}} respects user-defined interface language, breaking link tables etc. (aka {{USERIFCODE}} strikes back) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14404  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[17:58:34] <brion>	you may want more specific block options, so that's ok
[17:58:48] <brion>	but i've got a range block on 10.0.0.0/24 and *two* 10.0.0.2-specific blocks now
[17:59:01] <^demon>	Two are in the database?
[17:59:06] <brion>	one "edit" of 10.0.0.2 (changing expiry) worked as expected, replacing the old 10.0.0.2 block
[17:59:17] <brion>	a second "edit" of it (to change options) added a second block
[17:59:17] <brion>	yes
[17:59:31] <^demon>	Hmmmm.
[17:59:49] <brion>	this second time i didn't change the expiry, but did change anon_only and create_account values from 1 to 0
[18:00:45] <[Ex0r]>	is it possible to make wiki pages private? (For authenticated users only)
[18:01:11] <brion>	[Ex0r]: normally not per-page, though you can block off the entire wiki, then whitelist a few public pages
[18:01:29] <brion>	there exist extensions for per-page permissions but they may have problems as it doesn't quite fit with MW's security model
[18:01:43] <^demon>	brion: Looking into it now. Just replicated your problem here.
[18:01:44] <brion>	there should be a link in from an entry on the faq, iirc
[18:01:49] <brion>	^demon: thx
[18:01:59] <[Ex0r]>	do you have a link for whitelisting pages and making the main wiki private ?
[18:02:00] <brion>	when it's working right it looks quite handy though! :D
[18:02:10] <brion>	[Ex0r]: should be linked from the faq
[18:02:20] <brion>	(link in channel topic)
[18:02:37] <[Ex0r]>	thank you
[18:03:27] <brion>	hmmmmm, next iphone sdk will provide a "push notification service" for apps to get background notifications
[18:03:29] <brion>	nice
[18:03:46] <mark>	why are you not there brion
[18:03:48] <brion>	soon i'll be on irc 24 hours a day!
[18:03:48] <mark>	it's around the corner
[18:03:54] <mark>	I already am
[18:04:03] <brion>	mark: why fight the crowds when i can just sit in the irc channel for live updates? :)
[18:04:10] <mark>	colloquy + irssi proxy ftw
[18:05:06] <brion>	"available in september"? bah. the wheels move slowly at apple
[18:05:29] <mark>	what, the SDK?
[18:05:36] <mark>	delayed again?
[18:05:40] <brion>	apparently that feature of it, anyway
[18:05:40] *AaronSchulz 	gets more BBW facebook ads
[18:06:03] <ImMortaL>	i get this after ive put the code
[18:06:04] <brion>	i thought AaronSchulz liked the emaciated girls? :)
[18:06:13] <ImMortaL>	http://rafb.net/p/sviVMo87.html
[18:06:47] <brion>	ImMortaL: in place of "MyExtensionJavaScript" put the actual name of the little PHP function you wrote
[18:07:02] <brion>	and make sure that the function is actually present -- either directly in LocalSettings.php or in a separate file you include
[18:07:05] <[Ex0r]>	anyone know what the admin usergroup is ?
[18:07:09] <[Ex0r]>	flag*
[18:07:10] <Nikerabbit>	hi alles
[18:07:15] <brion>	[Ex0r]: sysop
[18:07:39] <[Ex0r]>	so in the user_group flag, you set ug as sysop ?
[18:07:47] <brion>	yep
[18:07:52] <brion>	hi Nikerabbit 
[18:08:08] <Nikerabbit>	O_o :o
[18:08:31] <Nikerabbit>	what have I done to earn a greeting from brion :D
[18:08:56] <brion>	heh.... ipod touch owners gotta pay for the next software upgrade again ;)
[18:08:58] <brion>	suckas
[18:09:58] <mark>	especially since I got an iphone for less than you can get an ipod touch for here ;)
[18:12:03] <ImMortaL>	brion : ive put $wgHooks['BeforePageDisplay'][]  = 'MyExtensionJavaScript'; this in the localsetting 
[18:12:23] <ImMortaL>	and MyExtensionJavaScript is the actual function
[18:12:33] <brion>	ImMortaL: the PHP func or the JS func?
[18:12:42] <brion>	i ask because your error message tells me there is no PHP function with that name
[18:13:21] <ImMortaL>	the code : http://rafb.net/p/VlJ4Yv44.html
[18:14:13] <[Ex0r]>	can I make registration private ?
[18:14:14] <ImMortaL>	the php function...
[18:14:17] <ImMortaL>	brion
[18:14:52] <ImMortaL>	[Ex0r] , yes 
[18:14:52] <ImMortaL>	#disable registration :
[18:14:53] <ImMortaL>	#$wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false;
[18:14:53] <ImMortaL>	$wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; 	# no anon editing
[18:15:02] <brion>	ImMortaL: your code looks bad, there's incorrect string quoting
[18:15:06] <brion>	that might be mucking some stuff up
[18:16:18] <ImMortaL>	no in the code ive upload its all right , its just i added the quotes where ive paste the code..
[18:16:47] <ImMortaL>	this is not the problem..
[18:22:32] <[Ex0r]>	well for some reason the main page got deleted again :\
[18:26:13] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Account cannot be renamed to a global username - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13507  +comment (10brion)
[18:31:36] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED)  automatic created accounts do not appear as conflict when trying to remerge after unmerge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14403  +comment (10spacebirdy)
[18:33:27] <brion>	3g iphone being announced right now *glee*
[18:34:58] <ialex>	\o/
[18:35:22] <Wiredtape>	brion, is this on tv or in some conference?
[18:35:44] <brion>	at apple developer conference, relayed via irc ;)
[18:35:51] <Wiredtape>	which chan? :)
[18:36:09] <brion>	didn't feel like paying hundreds of dollars to fight giant crowds all day when i can get it for free online ;)
[18:36:14] <brion>	#wwdc on irc.arstechnica.com
[18:36:20] <Wiredtape>	thanks!
[18:37:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Login isn't global if loging on via secure server - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14450  (10brion)
[18:38:34] <crucially>	brion: and yet, you are really close by
[18:40:13] <brion>	why spend money on conference fees when i can spend it upgrading my phone?
[18:40:25] <brion>	oooh, gps
[18:40:27] <crucially>	i guess not everyone is nice enough to donate tickets eh? :)
[18:40:37] <brion>	;_;
[18:42:52] <ImMortaL>	how can i add to the <head> section code for all wiki pages without hooks ? 
[18:44:06] <Wiredtape>	immortal: edit the skin
[18:44:52] <ImMortaL>	ok.. and how im doing this ? which file i need to search ?
[18:46:14] <Wiredtape>	depends on what skin you use.. assuming you haven't changed anything skin related since install.. you use monobook, so edit monobook.php
[18:48:26] <brion>	16gb 3g iphone for $299, nice!
[18:48:48] <brion>	i still want a 32gb :P
[18:49:47] <toweri>	$299 + sell your soul to the telco for the next two eternities?
[18:50:03] <brion>	i already sold my soul to at&t, i've got nothing to lose!
[18:50:39] *OverlordQ 	turns on his anti-Steve Jobs Reality Distorsion Field Field
[18:51:02] *^demon 	still loves his TMo.
[18:51:08] <Wiredtape>	damn it.. i joined just when the conference was over!
[18:51:33] <brion>	hehe
[18:51:42] <brion>	http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080609-ars-at-wwdc-08-live-keynote-coverage.html <- read it backwards
[18:51:52] <Wiredtape>	thx brion :)
[18:54:13] <brion>	^demon: any luck tracking it down yet?
[18:54:16] *^demon 	headdesks
[18:54:18] <^demon>	No.
[18:54:43] <^demon>	$oldblock = Block::newFromDB($this->BlockAddress); $oldblock->delete(); didn't work.
[18:54:58] <^demon>	Nor did using the actual block constructor, then loading, then deleting.
[18:56:19] <^demon>	brion: http://pastey.net/89188 - here's what I have.
[18:58:44] <Raymond_>	AaronSchulz: pls view http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieter_Engels as 1) logged in user and 2) as anon user. in 2) the red links disappears.. any relation with flaggedRevs?
[19:01:28] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Unattached accounts are no longer listed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14456  +comment (10brion)
[19:05:58] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145  (10alefzet)
[19:06:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Can't transwiki page if target exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14463  (10brion)
[19:06:53] <[Ex0r]>	hmm
[19:07:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Forced SUBST: additions in signatures should ignore nowiki tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14465  summary (10brion)
[19:07:03] <[Ex0r]>	i editied my localsettings.php file, now my Main page is gone :\
[19:07:06] <[Ex0r]>	how to fix
[19:07:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145  +comment (10alefzet)
[19:10:13] <Xiong>	i'd be readier to help exor out if i knew what edits he'd made
[19:10:29] <CIA-51>	03raymond * r36094 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesDe.php: Localisation updates German
[19:10:47] <CIA-51>	03brion * r36095 10/trunk/extensions/SiteMatrix/SiteMatrix_body.php: * (bug 14472) Special:Sitematrix was overly aggressive about calling wikis closed that have wgReadOnlyFile set -- it's not closed if the lockfile doesn't exist!
[19:11:27] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Special:SiteMatrix lists Japanese Wiktionary as closed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14472  +comment (10brion)
[19:11:45] <brion>	^demon: good luck :D
[19:12:49] <CIA-51>	03ialex * r36096 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): (bug 12145) Kazakh message updates
[19:13:05] <^demon>	brion-lunch: Thanks. Enjoy lunch.
[19:13:32] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[19:15:05] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) SUL watchlist / new messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14488 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (george.paleontex)
[19:18:49] <CIA-51>	03aaron * r36097 10/trunk/extensions/ (DumpHTML/dumpHTML.php FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php): Disable flaggedrevs for DumpHTML
[19:24:38] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) SUL watchlist / new messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14488  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[19:24:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Please add cross-wiki talk page notification. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1066  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[19:25:21] <CIA-51>	03aaron * r36098 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.class.php FlaggedRevsPage.php): Be consistent with parser options
[19:25:29] <AhmadSherif>	brion: is there a way to make a specific css work for firefox only?
[19:28:00] <CIA-51>	03ialex * r36099 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (5 files): It's now possible to preview changes in Special:Configure.
[19:28:42] <CIA-51>	03siebrand * r36100 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Fix typo in 'tooltip-recreate'. Thanks to Lloffiwr for spotting it.
[19:31:28] <CIA-51>	03siebrand * r36101 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/Translate.i18n.php: Update message 'translate-task-reviewall'
[19:35:25] <CIA-51>	03siebrand * r36102 10/trunk/extensions/Maintenance/Maintenance.i18n.php: Fix error in 'maintenance-moveBatch'. Thank to Helix84 for spotting.
[19:46:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) API parser does not use HTMLTidy on non-cached pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14471  (10rockmfr)
[19:59:13] <ImMortaL>	how can i add to the <head> section code for all wiki pages without hooks ? 
[19:59:28] <ImMortaL>	sry
[19:59:40] <Duesentrieb>	edit the skin
[19:59:44] <ImMortaL>	yes
[19:59:55] <Duesentrieb>	yes.
[20:06:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Unattached accounts are no longer listed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14456  +comment (10lejonel)
[20:06:05] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Global account status says "All in order" when it's not. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14478  +comment (10lejonel)
[20:10:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) blockquote support in wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4827  (10/blockquote> thru POINT-X. Just thought you would
[20:10:16] <wikibugs>	like to know. As for me I now put the tags on their own lines to make
[20:10:16] <wikibugs>	sure there are no such artifacts created. Seen in version that is on Wikipedia
[20:10:16] <wikibugs>	today.
[20:10:18] <wikibugs>	We see <blockquote> some individuals to conclude that a well- designed
[20:10:20] <wikibugs>	compression algorithm can compress any input, thus, constituting a
[20:10:22] <wikibugs>	magic compression algorithm.</blockquote> My algorithm is to use POINT-X
[20:10:24] <wikibugs>	several algorithms and pick the best (and noting in the header
[20:10:26] <wikibugs>	produced which algorithm we chose, for easy uncompression) ---so
[20:10:28] <wikibugs>	there! Yes, can't always compress, but when it does it is the best
[20:10:30] <wikibugs>	algorithm on the block.
[20:10:34] <ialex>	O_o
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[20:10:50] <wikibugs>	Wikibugs-l mailing list
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[20:11:15] *ialex 	kills wikibugs
[20:11:46] <Nikerabbit>	hhiih
[20:12:03] *^demon|away 	stabs wikibugs
[20:12:20] <ialex>	wikibug's flooding the chan!  :D
[20:12:45] <OverlordQ>	zomg bug in wikibugs!
[20:13:18] <ialex>	open a bug to report it :)
[20:13:27] <Smaug>	the question is, will it report itself?
[20:13:35] <Smaug>	turn itself in
[20:16:48] <LeonWP>	I'm going to close 4827, is RESOLVED INVALID appropriate?
[20:17:52] <LeonWP>	or WONTFIX?
[20:17:55] <MinuteElectron>	I think WONTFIX would be more appropirate.
[20:18:09] <LeonWP>	kk
[20:21:44] <Wiredtape>	any SMW people here?
[20:21:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Can't transwiki page if target exists - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14463  (10danny.b)
[20:30:46] *brion 	nudges CIA-51 
[20:31:24] <CIA-51>	03brion * r36103 10/trunk/extensions/DumpHTML/dumpHTML.php: 
[20:31:24] <CIA-51>	Merge live hack --oom-adj option...
[20:31:24] <CIA-51>	I'm sick of svn up conflicts, commit your changes guys! :)
[20:38:50] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) blockquote support in wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4827  +comment (10leon)
[20:42:29] <mogra>	Is there a way to revert the entire Wiki back in History? I imported a bunch of pages and then realized I'd rather not have them.
[20:47:25] <CIA-51>	03aaron * r36104 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.class.php): Check isLocal()
[20:47:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Deleted tlh.wikt blocks SUL process - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14300  (10spacebirdy)
[20:49:56] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) </blockquote> till end of line ends up in new paragraph - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14489 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (jidanni)
[20:50:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Can't transwiki page if target exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14463  (10brion)
[20:51:54] <CIA-51>	03dale * r36105 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (mv_embed.js mv_vlcEmbed.js sample_page.php): updated mv_embed better remote embedding compatibility with IE
[20:53:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  automatic created accounts do not appear as conflict when trying to remerge after unmerge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14403  (10raimond.spekking)
[20:53:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) [[Special:MergeAccount]] does not recognize passwords of own accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14481  (10raimond.spekking)
[21:01:26] <CIA-51>	03aaron * r36106 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Still highlight commons file versions though :)
[21:03:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) blockquote support in wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4827  +comment (10l8qjvx002)
[21:07:48] <brion>	^demon: hmm, maybe it's loading the wrong block again there?
[21:07:56] <brion>	ahh
[21:08:06] <^demon>	brion: Could be possible.
[21:08:12] <brion>	more generally, it seems to be assuming that there's a unique index that'll prevent the dupe insertion
[21:08:24] <^demon>	But that's odd, when it's the _only_ entry in the ipblocks table.
[21:08:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) blockquote support in wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4827  (10leon)
[21:08:51] <brion>	  UNIQUE KEY `ipb_address` (`ipb_address`(255),`ipb_user`,`ipb_auto`,`ipb_anon_only`) <- but there isn't exactly
[21:09:05] <brion>	if you change the anon_only option...
[21:09:11] <brion>	man that's weird
[21:09:22] <brion>	i guess you can have separate blocks for anons and non-anons........... o_O
[21:09:24] <brion>	mind-boggling
[21:09:44] <^demon>	Yes, which was previously not-allowed because the software would block if _any_ block existed for a user.
[21:10:01] <brion>	ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wtf :D
[21:11:20] <AhmadSherif>	brion: is there a way to make a specific css work for firefox only?
[21:12:07] <^demon>	brion: I guess I was sitting here assuming that the unique key would prevent dupe entries. :-P
[21:13:11] <brion>	AhmadSherif: add it in javascript based on the user-agent.... but i'd recommend against that :)
[21:13:42] <brion>	why do you want firefox-specific css?
[21:14:08] <brion>	in most cases it's best to design your css to work for all browsers as much as possible
[21:14:24] <AhmadSherif>	brion: i want for main.css in monobook style, for the external link icons issue
[21:14:32] <brion>	and to use progressive enhancement / graceful degradation so that features supported on only some browsers will simply only be recognized by those that recognize them
[21:16:22] <AhmadSherif>	brion: the problem is every browser has a different problem with that issue 
[21:16:42] <flyingparchment>	monobook has some horrid tricks to do per-browser css
[21:16:50] <flyingparchment>	like hiding stuff from certain browsers using complicated selectors
[21:17:34] <AhmadSherif>	flyingparchment: could you give me an example please?
[21:17:45] <flyingparchment>	i don't know one off hand, look at monobook/main.css
[21:18:25] <AhmadSherif>	i really did and got nothing :)
[21:22:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Sister project links should be stored in its own table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14473  (10alex.emsenhuber)
[21:23:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) blockquote support in wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4827  (10N/A)
[21:23:52] <eghjaytee>	Hello, what mediawiki bot frameworks are people using here for php? I just need to make simple updates. 
[21:25:31] <^demon>	brion: The old blockip used !$block->insert() as its way of checking a dupe entry as well, why would it be any different now?
[21:29:08] <brion>	well what's different now is that it tells me it's going to modify the existing block
[21:29:13] <brion>	but then it doesn't, it adds a new block
[21:31:00] <^demon>	Right. I made it so it would nuke the current and insert a new one.
[21:31:09] <^demon>	Without clogging the logs with unblock entries.
[21:37:02] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Requested change of methods in EditPage from private to protected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14490 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (hoggwild5)
[21:40:04] <^demon>	brion: I daresay that Special:Blockip could use a rewrite (I /was/ thinking of a branch to allow per-permission blocking, but that's a pipe dream at the moment)
[21:40:43] <brion>	eek :)
[21:42:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Previewing on Special: Undelete displays first line incorrectly if list item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12311  (10rockmfr)
[21:42:39] <AaronSchulz>	^demon: that makes things feel like kindergarten :)
[21:43:07] <CIA-51>	03brion * r36107 10/trunk/phase3/config/index.php: 
[21:43:07] <CIA-51>	* (bug 14392) Fix regression breaking table prefix in installer
[21:43:08] <CIA-51>	Problem was a second DBprefix field in the installer, for the MS SQL-specific options.
[21:43:08] <CIA-51>	This second field would be blank, overwriting the first submission from the MySQL-specific section.
[21:43:08] <CIA-51>	Have renamed that field to DBprefix2, so it won't conflict.
[21:43:10] <CIA-51>	Haven't tested on MSSQL of course. . . ;)
[21:43:22] <Skizzerz>	or better yet have blocked people automatically put into a "blocked" usergroup so that permissions other than editing can be revoked (e.g. $wgBlockRevoke = array( 'edit', 'read' ); for private wikis who don't want banned people to continue to see their content) :P
[21:43:23] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Database prefixes not added - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14392  +comment (10brion)
[21:43:29] <^demon>	AaronSchulz: I liked kindergarten :(
[21:43:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) add Bugzilla to unified login :P - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14487  +comment (10soxred93)
[21:45:33] <CIA-51>	03brion * r36108 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Database.php): 
[21:45:33] <CIA-51>	* (bug 11084) $wgDBprefix replacement for updater SQL will now work for
[21:45:33] <CIA-51>	 extension tables using uppercase letters or digits in their names.
[21:45:42] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED)  Table prefix should be added to table names with uppercase characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11084  +comment (10brion)
[21:46:24] <egm>	Looking for help with mediawiki:Sidebar not updating?
[21:47:51] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Set $wgGroupPermissions['user']['move-subpages'] = false for en .wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14482  +comment (10brion)
[21:47:56] <^demon>	brion: On that note of the installer...I was looking at a bug requesting that AdminSettings.php be output during install as well. If A) the user provided a superuser acct/pw, -and- B) The user selects to create it, would there be any major issues with doing so? I was thinking of putting it in ./config, just to be safe, like LocalSettings
[21:48:52] <brion>	dunno
[21:48:59] <brion>	the installer does some pretty shitty things :D
[21:49:28] <egm>	Does anyone know why changes to MediaWiki:Sidebar would not appear in the navigation area?  All caches flushed, purged, etc.?
[21:49:51] <^demon>	I figured fread() the sample, a simple str_replace() with the user/pw for superuser put into the sample (I'm assuming we don't change those default samples too often ;-)), then output it to ./config
[21:56:44] <dagostin>	anyone here?
[21:57:01] <egm>	Yes.
[21:57:07] <^demon>	brion: Fixed my issue ;-)
[21:57:20] <dagostin>	i have a db issue
[21:57:29] <dagostin>	cant seem to fix it
[21:58:00] <egm>	Sadly, I have a Sidebar issue that can't seem to fix either.  :(
[21:58:17] <^demon>	dagostin: What's your DB issue?
[21:58:31] <^demon>	egm: Not sure, in re: to your question
[21:59:06] <dagostin>	http://wiki.net385.com/
[21:59:12] <dagostin>	you'll se
[21:59:14] <dagostin>	e
[21:59:40] <dagostin>	I'm using myisam storage engine for the db
[21:59:48] <dagostin>	mediawiki is the latest
[22:00:14] <dagostin>	worked fine for a few days, and just dropped down few hrs ago
[22:00:34] <^demon>	Hmmm.
[22:00:35] <^demon>	No clue.
[22:00:51] <dagostin>	did a repair got error...
[22:01:01] <dagostin>	error : Got error 1 from storage engine
[22:01:09] <dagostin>	on all tamles
[22:01:13] <dagostin>	*tebles
[22:01:16] <dagostin>	damn
[22:01:18] <dagostin>	tables
[22:01:18] <egm>	I have the same issue from this article: http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7369
[22:02:08] <dagostin>	any ideas?
[22:03:28] <dagostin>	my collation is set to default, which is unicode_swedish_ci
[22:03:37] <dagostin>	i use croatian chars
[22:03:46] <dagostin>	looked @ phpmyadmin
[22:03:58] <derwin>	croatia beat austria :(
[22:04:05] <dagostin>	and it says something weird
[22:04:19] *^demon 	kicks CIA-51
[22:04:34] <CIA-51>	ow
[22:04:46] <dagostin>	instead of collation swedish, it says in use, or somethinl like that
[22:05:02] <^demon>	brion: See r36109
[22:05:21] <dagostin>	@derwin we could do bether
[22:05:23] <dagostin>	:)
[22:05:27] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add new global for toolbar relocation in EditPage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14491 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (hoggwild5)
[22:05:41] <derwin>	dagostin : apparently ... :/
[22:06:52] *^demon 	thinks he finally got it :-D
[22:10:20] *Alexfusco5 	kills CIA-51
[22:10:40] *Alexfusco5 	shoots CIA-51
[22:10:46] <Alexfusco5>	>:|
[22:13:11] <dagostin>	this channel is not very productive
[22:13:13] <dagostin>	:(
[22:13:32] <dagostin>	I don't really have a problem, since I did a fresh install
[22:13:52] <dagostin>	but I Would like to know why did this happen
[22:14:42] <MostafaDaneshvar>	Is it possible to hide IP address in top of mediawiki?
[22:15:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) n-ary data in queries to templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14464  +comment (10info)
[22:15:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) service links don't work for many-valued properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14426  (10info)
[22:15:51] <^demon>	MostafaDaneshvar: Yes. Set $wgShowIPinHeader to false in your LocalSettings
[22:17:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) need extra parameters in ask queries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14440  (10info)
[22:19:26] <Mike-Kane>	Hi, would anyone know any ways to integrate mediawiki into the drupal CMS?  All help appreciated
[22:22:26] <Duesentrieb>	Mike-Kane: that doesn't make much sense. there's a lot of conflicting functionality
[22:22:46] <^demon>	I was going to say "define integrate"
[22:22:59] <dagostin>	@deamon do you have any idea how to solve this, any hint whatsoever
[22:23:11] <MostafaDaneshvar>	^demon: what about disabling edit 
[22:24:08] <dsch04>	Hi
[22:24:08] <^demon>	MostafaDanseshvar: Set $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] to false, and make sure $wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit'] is true.
[22:24:55] <dsch04>	I just installed mediawiki 1.10.4 from the Fedora RPM
[22:25:43] <dsch04>	It doesn't seem to come with any help, i.e. mediawiki help
[22:26:10] <dsch04>	Is the help distributed separately, or is this a Fedora packaging problem?
[22:27:24] <Duesentrieb>	!mwhelp | dsch04
[22:27:24] --mwbot--	dsch04: An introduction to using MediaWiki is at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents>, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Copying> for information about copying it to your own wiki. More technical information for MediaWiki administrators is at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Contents>. For an introduction on programming with MediaWiki, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_hub>.
[22:28:05] <dsch04>	Ah, cool. Thanks
[22:28:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) successful edit causes server to return HTTP 500 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14443  (10brion)
[22:29:07] <Mike-Kane>	Duesentrieb, I know tis possible as I've seen it done, I just don't know how lol.  Alright, well thanks anyways
[22:29:45] <Mike-Kane>	All I was really looking for was single-sign-on functionality
[22:29:50] <Duesentrieb>	Mike-Kane: well, there are many types of "integration". simpyl making it look the same and sharing login info is sure possible. but i wouldn't call that "integration".
[22:30:15] <Duesentrieb>	!auth | Mike-Kane
[22:30:15] --mwbot--	Mike-Kane: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin
[22:31:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Increase or remove rate limit for rollbacker group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12760  (10N/A)
[22:32:19] <Duesentrieb>	Mike-Kane: specifically, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AuthDrupal
[22:33:00] <brion>	^demon: now it removes the range block when i "alter" a block for an individual ip
[22:33:30] <^demon>	Ah, same logic error as "already blocked" when it was your range.
[22:33:32] <^demon>	Half a moment.
[22:33:37] <brion>	*nod*
[22:33:40] <Mike-Kane>	Duesentrieb: tried that one, currently have it installed and configured to the specifications in INSTALL.txt  however it isn't working
[22:34:03] <Mike-Kane>	the login isn't actually shared
[22:34:25] <Duesentrieb>	Mike-Kane: well, sharing auth-info and sharing sessions are spearate issues
[22:34:39] <Duesentrieb>	and... i have never tried it. nor ever used drupal. so i don't know the details
[22:35:47] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Increase or remove rate limit for rollbacker group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12760  +comment (10mike.lifeguard)
[22:35:50] <^demon>	brion: r36110
[22:37:28] <Mike-Kane>	well Duesentrieb, thats understandable. thanks for the help
[22:47:35] <usar>	hi
[22:47:48] *AaronSchulz 	hmms
[22:47:59] <AaronSchulz>	some image metadata missed by parser
[22:48:29] <usar>	just set up my first mediawiki - can anyone point me to the right spot in the docs to tell me how te set it up so that anonymous users can't see any content and that any new user application has to be manually approved?
[22:49:56] <usar>	ah, I think I at least found something about the first part of my question in the FAW
[22:49:59] <usar>	FAQ*
[22:52:29] <usar>	and the second one too :(
[22:52:30] <usar>	sorry
[22:53:55] <AaronSchulz>	brion: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bild:KKW_Gundremmingen_Parkplatz.JPG&stable=0
[22:54:20] *AaronSchulz 	can't figure out the issue with these two files
[22:55:12] <brion>	AaronSchulz: what's wrong with it?
[22:55:18] <AaronSchulz>	can't review it
[22:59:39] <^demon>	brion: We good to go finally? I think that's the last of the issues.
[23:04:19] <CIA-53>	03brion * r36111 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialCategories.php: Clean up rr35065 -- normalize initial caps and _ input on Special:Categories form and accept /suffix on page name
[23:05:17] <GeneralAntilles>	Can somebody tell me what I'm doing wrong here? http://wiki.maemo.org/Template:More_topics I'd like it to use {{{1}}} if {{{2}}} isn't defined and use {{{2}}} if {{{2}}} is defined, but it just mostly just spits out gibberish as seen here: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Generalantilles/Sandbox/More_topics
[23:06:39] <CIA-53>	03kim * r36112 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/voctrain/NOTES: - NOTES: small notes section no longer useful, removed
[23:08:06] <brion>	^demon: sec :D
[23:09:01] <^demon>	k
[23:10:01] <brion>	hmmm
[23:10:28] <brion>	^demon: now it doesn't apply the block at all
[23:10:48] <brion>	i'm assuming it's coming up with the range block, then not removing it since it's not an exact match, then failing to remove the conflicting block
[23:11:01] <brion>	i'm just going to revert this to a state before the changes until we get it worked out :)
[23:11:40] <^demon>	Alrighty. I've been looking at this same bit for far too long today. I think I'll put it off for a fresh mind tomorrow.
[23:11:44] <^demon>	Thanks for your help today :-)
[23:11:55] <brion>	sometimes these things go like that :D
[23:16:47] <CIA-53>	03brion * r36113 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Revert r36076, r36109, r36110 -- just doesn't work right. Sometimes removes blocks, sometimes fails to remove blocks, sometimes fails to modify blocks.
[23:19:36] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Allow modification of a block without unblocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10080  +comment (10brion)
[23:26:44] <AaronSchulz>	brion: I wonder if Output->mTemplateIds is missing items
[23:26:57] <AaronSchulz>	I mean $parser->mOutput->mImages
[23:31:22] *AaronSchulz 	watches Everybody Loves Raymond
[23:32:52] <MostafaDaneshvar>	I got this error during installation "Warning: A value for session.save_path  has not been set in PHP.ini. If the default value causes problems with saving session data, set it to a valid path which is read/write/execute for the user your web server is running under."
[23:33:03] <brion>	MostafaDaneshvar: try setting it?
[23:34:15] <AaronSchulz>	brion: ahh, what a brilliant show
[23:35:24] <brion>	tv rots your brain, AaronSchulz  :)
[23:35:52] <AaronSchulz>	hey, I don't watch much TV
[23:35:59] <MostafaDaneshvar>	I defined as path for session.save_path 
[23:36:03] <MostafaDaneshvar>	777 permission
[23:36:21] *MostafaDaneshvar 	thinking 
[23:38:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) templates specified in inline query don' t show up in Templatelink - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14173  15enhancement->normal; summary; +comment (10info)
[23:39:21] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Lilypond - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14480  +comment (10brion)
[23:39:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add a music wikimodule - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189  +comment (10brion)
[23:39:31] <MostafaDaneshvar>	brion: is there any other way for saving session data? e.g in data base not in a directory?
[23:40:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) [[Special:MergeAccount]] does not recognize passwords of own accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14481  (10brion)
[23:43:26] <AaronSchulz>	brion: I wish SimCity wasn't dead
[23:43:33] <AaronSchulz>	seems that Sim City Societies is hella stupid
[23:43:50] <brion>	what's dead about simcity? it's a single-player game, play it as much as you like :)
[23:44:06] <OverlordQ>	SC4 was ok
[23:44:13] <brion>	MostafaDaneshvar: someone may have written such extension somewhere
[23:44:15] <AaronSchulz>	SC3KU was the best
[23:44:31] <brion>	we use memcached for our storage (it's an option)
[23:44:40] <brion>	poke around mediawiki.org maybe see if there's a sample code
[23:54:30] <CIA-53>	03brion * r36114 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SpecialUndelete.php): 
[23:54:30] <CIA-53>	* (bug 12311) Fix regression with lists at start of undeletion preview
[23:54:30] <CIA-53>	From patch by RockMFR - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=4969
[23:54:46] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Previewing on Special: Undelete displays first line incorrectly if list item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12311  +comment (10brion)
[23:55:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) add Bugzilla to unified login :P - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14487  (10brion)
[23:55:37] <Charitwo>	there's a tounge smiley in that bug lol
[23:56:59] <CIA-53>	03kim * r36115 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/voctrain/ (DBTools.php NOTES exercise.php): Some documentation
[23:57:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) API parser does not use HTMLTidy on non-cached pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14471  (10brion)