[00:04:21] 03(mod) Deleted tlh.wikt blocks SUL process - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14300 (10brion) [00:07:19] Is there anyone who can maybe gimme some pointers on making manual entries into the Mediawiki db? [00:08:11] OverlordQ: SC4 didn't have much feel to it [00:08:24] lots of eye candy though [00:08:39] the simulator itself was nice [00:09:37] It's too bad they forgot what made the series awesome in the first place. [00:10:00] yea :( [00:10:17] i installed a couple addons which made it a bit 'better' [00:10:25] Maxis didn't even make SCC [00:11:01] 03siebrand * r36116 10/trunk/phase3/languages/Names.php: Update local name for 'bcc' [00:13:13] Hopefully Spore will not suck. [00:13:45] hopefully :D [00:29:22] 03siebrand * r36117 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Tweak 'revertpage'. Proposed by: O. [00:51:53] 03aaron * r36118 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [00:51:53] * Don't log patrol marking when not relevant [00:51:53] * Use array_merge() for template ID array merge [00:51:53] * Some random refactoring [01:04:48] 03shinjiman * r36119 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Old/Late Time Chinese [01:10:11] 03(mod) Deleted tlh.wikt blocks SUL process - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14300 (10spacebirdy) [01:25:54] 03aaron * r36120 10/trunk/phase3/includes/OutputPage.php: Use nice wfArrayMerge(), rather than piece of shit PHP function that fucks up the result. I was wondering wtf was going on... [01:28:22] Really nice commit message :) [01:28:38] 03dale * r36121 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [01:28:38] * updated jquery to fix IE filter.match(...) on png attribute is null bug: http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/1627 [01:28:38] * Updated ROE xml output to not include xml xsd info. (causing IE parser errors) [01:28:38] * some variable name clean up [01:29:57] heh [01:30:14] Is there any way to tell Mediawiki not to translate one string? [01:30:29] (i.e. Special:Userlogin) [01:32:13] 03aaron * r36122 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Specify title attrib to be clear [01:36:57] 03dale * r36123 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/mv_embed.js: disables not fully functional portions of plugin selection code [01:41:03] 03(mod) Login isn't global if loging on via secure server - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14450 (10N/A) [01:58:16] 03dale * r36124 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (mv_embed.js sample_page.php): updated sample page [02:13:42] 03(NEW) Request ability to copy wiki-markup of references in a single block, regardless of their positions in the text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14492 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (mhorvath2161) [02:22:17] <^BuGs^> Hey all. I got a problem. I have 1.13 installed and working, with SUL, and very recently I been getting "Error creating thumbnail:" error. Now "$wgUseImageMagick" is set to true. convert path is given. GD is complied with PHP, but we rather use ImageMagick. ImageMagick does work on another site that uses it for human verification. So any help would be great. [02:45:11] <^BuGs^> no answer? [03:17:25] ^BuGs^: is that the whole error? [03:36:44] 03(mod) n-ary data in queries to templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14464 (10mrandmrsmurphy) [03:50:35] 03(mod) New messages bar should appear above page title, for consistency with other message boxes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12681 (10N/A) [03:51:39] 03aaron * r36125 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/ (5 files): Use getPrefixedDBKey() for title param [04:01:54] 03(mod) LivePreview does not render CSS or JavaScript pages correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14486 +comment (10pathoschild) [04:47:21] 03aaron * r36126 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.class.php): [04:47:21] * Merge in with existing images for output [04:47:21] * Use dbkey for include params [04:57:56] 03aaron * r36127 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.class.php: There already is an mParser field! [05:47:31] Nikerabbit: Meno25 has been wikignoming :) [05:54:03] off to work [06:03:58] 03(NEW) Templates not rendered every time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14493 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (mbidlingmaier) [07:01:52] <_wooz> lo [07:15:39] 03mkroetzsch * r36128 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/storage/ (5 files): + parameter declarations for runtime typechecking [07:19:09] 03mkroetzsch * r36129 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_Hooks.php: minor API change, fix [07:20:15] hi _wooz [07:20:24] <_wooz> hi Charitwo [08:05:03] 03aaron * r36130 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.class.php FlaggedRevs.php): [08:05:03] * Be careful with setting cache here [08:05:03] * Force unstubbing to avoid fr_isStable falling off [08:05:03] * Bring timestamp links back [08:05:03] * Remove unneeded function [08:05:05] * Rename var [08:07:22] 03(NEW) 'SpecialPage_initList' hook appears to be broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14494 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (hoggwild5) [08:14:56] 03(mod) by default, every user should see the newest revision at german wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14306 (10N/A) [08:18:04] 03rotem * r36131 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Update. [08:25:57] 03rotem * r36132 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/ (checkLanguage.inc languages.inc): [08:25:57] * Support multiple extension names in checkExtensions.php (separated by commas). [08:25:57] * Avoid warnings when no localized messages exist for the specified language in an extension. [08:29:18] 03(mod) successful edit causes server to return HTTP 500 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14443 (10Bryan.TongMinh) [08:51:15] Hi [08:51:17] Anyone? [08:51:53] hi Nemos*2 ;) [08:52:03] Hi codeispoetry [08:52:04] hello [08:52:08] Hi [08:52:10] Listen [08:52:18] It's not related to mediawiki, but it's important anyway [08:52:35] Can you please help me? You have just to say if these phrases are correct or not [08:53:14] Disappeared? [08:53:26] listening. [08:53:34] << We offered to do the shopping for Bob, if he was ti [08:53:38] if he was tired [08:53:40] That's the prhase [08:54:03] ? [08:54:04] So? [08:55:16] ? [08:58:31] I have no idea what you're talking about, sorry. [08:58:47] If it's not about MediaWiki, you're better off asking elsewhere. [08:59:23] it's not an English writing class Nemos [09:01:16] you've been very rude, I guess [09:01:35] you could help me.. [09:03:18] hi [09:03:37] NemosNemos: I don't mean to come across as rude, but you're asking an off topic question in a channel about MediaWiki software. Did you really expect an answer? You're better off asking elsewhere. [09:04:10] Yes, I expect an answer..Especially from you with that nick [09:05:03] wrong type of channel to try being rude in [09:05:14] I know [09:06:33] I dont think he saw it coming :)) [09:06:54] i'm creating a simple extension for the mediawiki, it's a specialpage and used this manual: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Special_pages . it seems to work, but now i need to restrict the access, that only loged-in users can access the page. is there a simple way to do this? [09:07:00] archivist: and left "by himself"? [09:07:01] that was so uncharitable, i think you must change your name to Kicksalottwo [09:07:19] hehe [09:07:45] only if you change yours to likestostayoppedment [09:08:01] :) [09:24:01] 03siebrand * r36133 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (6 files): Rebuilt all language files [09:50:41] 03siebrand * r36134 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (84 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-06-10 11:20 CEST) [09:55:06] 03(mod) Exclude stubs from Special:Random - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14451 (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [09:55:33] Hi. can anyone recommend a nice howto on how to migrate a mediawiki from 1.8.2 to 1.11.0? [10:10:35] 03siebrand * r36135 10/trunk/extensions/ (92 files in 84 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-06-10 11:20 CEST) [10:14:30] hi, how can i get the page name (one with underscores) into body tag in my skin template? [10:14:49] i've tried to look for the correct variable but for some reason can't find it.. [10:15:12] {{PAGENAMEE}} [10:16:24] Sasa^Stefanovic: $this->text('pagenamee') ? [10:16:36] i don't know that :) [10:17:30] i'm trying to get it into tag.. [10:32:18] 03raymond * r36136 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Support plural for 'passwordtooshort' [10:44:29] 03raymond * r36137 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Support plural for 'throttled-mailpassword' [10:57:30] 03rotem * r36138 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update. [11:02:20] 03(mod) Exclude stubs from Special:Random - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14451 (10jorohr) [11:04:02] 03(mod) Exclude stubs from Special:Random - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14451 (10jorohr) [11:19:48] 03raymond * r36139 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Support plural for 'linkstoimage', 'redirectstofile' and 'duplicatesoffile' [11:30:15] 03(mod) successful edit causes server to return HTTP 500 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14443 +comment (10Platonides) [11:30:48] hi all [11:31:06] 03nikerabbit * r36140 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ffs/Simple.php: * Possible fix for author export [11:37:27] 03(mod) Disallow Meta bureaucrats to administer global accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14461 (10effeietsanders) [11:37:42] firefox day http://staff.osuosl.org/~mckim/files/mg_5442.jpg:) [11:37:54] <^BuGs^> TimStarling, yes., [11:38:21] tim is idle 6 hours [11:38:26] <^BuGs^> yeah. [11:38:36] <^BuGs^> He responded to be eailier while I was asleep. [11:38:37] <^BuGs^> :) [11:40:43] is there a timeout when uploading a file ? my wiki site complains that the file is empty when I try to upload something too large [11:41:16] and its network card is not too fast [11:41:43] *AzaTht love compiling on an 170MHz ARM processor [11:42:53] trying to backport lighttpd 4.19 to debian sarge on an 170 MHz ARM processor [11:47:02] I hated ARM (silly short branches) [12:08:59] 03raymond * r36141 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesDe.php MessagesEn.php): [12:08:59] Tweak two messages: add warnings "for experts only". [12:08:59] I got sick from the daily cries for help on the village pumps and OTRS :-( [12:22:01] Possibly the dumbest question of the week coming up: How do I create a page with an underscore and all lowercase title? [12:22:45] 03raymond * r36142 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: fix typo from r36141 [12:44:45] 03rotem * r36143 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update. [12:50:12] Hi, who'd like to answer a question? [12:51:07] is there any url parameter to open the page via its id and not title? something like index.php?pageid= [12:52:02] Am I missing something, or is the ability to upload files via a url gone in 1.12.0? [12:55:09] 03(mod) successful edit causes server to return HTTP 500 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14443 (10russblau) [12:58:17] hi all [12:59:02] people I couldn't transfer mediawiki's mysql db into postgresql. [12:59:33] I have run wp_mysql2postgres.pl script and it created .pg file [12:59:49] then I have created db and user in postgresql [13:00:26] then I have insalled media wiki into the postgresql db [13:00:53] and now when I'm running my .pg file it's gives an errors [13:01:22] ERROR: text search configuration "default" does not exist [13:02:11] note: I have used mediawiki 1.9 with mysql, then I have updated that to 1.12, and now I want to change db [13:02:42] any suggestions? [13:08:35] I get this when I access ru.wiki: [13:08:38] произошёл из функции «User::addToDatabase». MySQL возвратил ошибку «1062: Duplicate entry 'Bogdangiusca' for key 2 (10.0.0.101)». [13:08:49] Bogdangiusca is my username. [13:09:20] eghjaytee: it's still there according to this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgAllowCopyUploads [13:09:22] it's not working for you? [13:12:27] Danny_B: there doesn't seem to be a way to do that [13:12:27] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Index.php [13:16:34] 03huji * r36144 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: Localisation updates: Adding/updating Persian translations [13:16:54] jlerner: thanks for pointing index.php?title=-&curid= seems to work [13:17:21] Re-asking: How do I create a page with an underscore and all lowercase title? [13:19:02] Woosta: is this good enough? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgAllowDisplayTitle [13:19:15] *Woosta looks [13:20:03] ahh .. looks promising [13:20:13] I'll give it a go, thanks [13:20:24] Danny_B: neat [13:20:28] Woosta: sure [13:24:14] *^demon just noticed TortoiseSVN v 1.5 is now at "release candidate" stage. [13:32:35] <^BuGs^> Hey all. I got a problem. I have 1.13 installed and working, with SUL, and very recently I been getting "Error creating thumbnail:" error. Now "$wgUseImageMagick" is set to true. convert path is given. GD is complied with PHP, but we rather use ImageMagick. ImageMagick does work on another site that uses it for human verification. So any help would be great. I have a test page setup. [13:35:25] 03siebrand * r36145 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: Add a few optionals for Freecol [13:37:06] Hi. [13:39:41] 03siebrand * r36146 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: Add a few more optionals for Freecol [13:39:56] 03(mod) Incorrect parameters for MediaWiki:Blockedtext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14295 (10huji.huji) [13:47:58] 03siebrand * r36147 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: Remove 2 optionals for Freecol after double check [13:49:58] 03(NEW) A clean installation of Translate is not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14495 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (huji.huji) [13:54:47] Are there any people interested in creating a MediaWiki extension I have in mind? [13:56:48] 03demon * r36148 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (bug 14132) Allow user to disable bot edits from being output to UDP. [13:57:03] if anyones interest I have produced more information here = http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Extension_requests#Simple_Download_System [13:57:16] 03(FIXED) Omit bot edits in recent changes from being sent to UDP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14132 +comment (10innocentkiller) [14:06:22] morning Jack_Phoenix [14:06:30] hey Wiredtape :-) how goes? [14:06:42] :) goes well.. and u? [14:07:02] quite well here, too ;-) trying to hack wikiwyg to make it work somehow [14:08:03] :) I'm trying to get semantic forms to work as a popup and then maybe get all templates to work by the semantic forms methodology.. that way you can enter templates visually... that'll help your wikiwyg :) [14:08:41] who wants to do a patch review for me? :-) I talked to a fellow developer yesterday and we agreed that the wikiwyg patch of mine wasn't quite good. I've reworked the actual extension instead of hacking core. But I'd still need to commit a simple patch that adds two hooks to EditPage.php...and I could use some opinions --> http://rafb.net/p/Vnk7nx29.html [14:10:08] Jack_Phoenix : wasn't there a afteredit hook already? [14:10:29] I must've missed it, then ;-> [14:11:35] Jack_Phoenix : nah, I guess I just thought there was ;-) [14:12:03] so now we can fix that [14:12:14] <^demon> Jack_Phoenix: What's up? [14:12:38] hey ^demon :-) just a simple patch that adds two hooks to EditPage.php: http://rafb.net/p/Vnk7nx29.html [14:17:33] <^demon|away> Jack_Phoenix: Meeting @ work, I'll look when I return [14:17:39] cool, thank you :-) [14:31:11] 03mkroetzsch * r36149 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_QueryProcessor.php: support for .-separated property chains in queries, much simpler syntax for amny queries [14:31:47] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki/bcc [14:32:17] why Balochi doesn't appear in the languages? [14:48:22] when i use easytimeline if ~ char appears doesnt show text or broke [14:48:50] i installed and patch easytimeline.php to get freesans.ttf [14:48:53] any suggestion? [14:54:52] 03(mod) Unified Login: Accounts were attached yesterday, but today they are unattached - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14309 (10jeroenvrp) [14:55:51] 04(REOPENED) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 (10alefzet) [14:56:59] 03(mod) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 +comment (10alefzet) [14:58:01] 03tstarling * r36150 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/ (3 files): (log message trimmed) [14:58:01] * Make migrationDryRun() return detailed information about its reasons for [14:58:01] failure, instead of just claiming every problem is due to a wrong password. [14:58:01] Partially fixes bug 14481 which most likely was due to me not truncating the [14:58:01] globalnames table when I truncated the localnames table. [14:58:03] * Do something reasonable when the home wiki has a different password to the [14:58:05] current wiki. Instead of saying "wrong password, try again" ad nauseum, don't [14:59:02] 03mkroetzsch * r36151 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (SMW_QueryProcessor.php storage/SMW_SQLStore2.php): Fix: always ignore spaces before delimters (only spaces after delimiters might be interesting for escaping) [14:59:43] 03(NEW) Sourcefilename and destfilename messages should use wfMsgExt with parseinline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14496 minor; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (brianna.laugher) [15:03:17] 03(mod) [[Special:MergeAccount]] does not recognize passwords of own accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14481 (10tstarling) [15:06:45] 03leon * r36152 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesKk_arab.php MessagesKk_cyrl.php MessagesKk_latn.php): (bug 12145) Kazakh localisation updates, patch 4971 by AlefZet [15:07:01] 03(FIXED) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 +comment (10leon) [15:09:52] <^demon> ping Jack_Phoenix [15:13:34] pong ^demon :) [15:20:35] 03tstarling * r36153 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiFormatBase.php: Like the comment says... dieDebug() instead of wfHttpError [15:28:33] <^demon> Jack_Phoenix: So this patch. What am I looking at? [15:28:51] http://rafb.net/p/Vnk7nx29.html -- there's the patch ;-) [15:30:19] hi all, i think i found a bug on mediawiki search. would like to know if someone can confirm it [15:30:37] 03siebrand * r36154 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuth.i18n.php: [15:30:37] * add some newlines [15:30:37] * {{PLURAL in capitals [15:30:37] * remove trailing spaces [15:30:37] * style fix [15:30:38] * fix message group alignment for English (use spaces instead of tabs) [15:30:40] No localisation updates needed. [15:30:55] leonardo, what bug? [15:31:10] hi raibman-sr [15:31:30] go here viunai.gizmogarden.com [15:32:12] search for distrito with namespace Notícias enablesd [15:32:15] enabled [15:32:31] when you do it tell me [15:33:25] 7 hits? [15:33:37] make a screenshot [15:33:42] yes seven [15:33:50] what is the problem? [15:34:08] now go to search and write boqueirão [15:34:18] search for boqueirão [15:34:49] tell me what is the problem! [15:35:04] so there are 3 hits [15:35:25] look:Notícias:Boqueirão: banheiros serão abastecidos por água do rio durante a festa [15:35:32] line 6 [15:35:51] there's Distrito do Boqueirão [15:36:18] the Distrito that appear, was not showed when we seached for distrito [15:36:30] understand? [15:36:52] yes it does [15:36:55] it's the third hit [15:37:01] no [15:37:16] the first hit [15:37:24] was not showed [15:37:33] when searched for distrito [15:38:07] search for distrito and you will not see this first hit: Notícias:Boqueirão: banheiros serão abastecidos por água do rio durante a festa [15:38:08] what is your third hit for distrito? [15:38:21] Notícias:Prefeitura inaugura escola modelo no Boqueirão [15:38:26] 03tstarling * r36155 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Status.php: Forgot this, needed with r36153 [15:38:54] opa [15:38:56] ops [15:38:59] wait [15:39:19] 03(mod) [[Special:MergeAccount]] does not recognize passwords of own accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14481 (10spacebirdy) [15:39:27] it is there, isn't it :) [15:39:50] wait a minute [15:43:12] but why showed a all lines that have distrito? [15:43:26] when searched for distrito [15:44:16] but maybe i was crazy. sorry [15:45:57] the old highlighter is not really intelligent, so it won't catch every occurance of the word, and show it [15:46:30] ha ok understand [15:46:36] thanks. [15:46:55] tell me: we have any new beter search extension? [15:47:10] any other that you think is better [15:47:26] for a smaller site you might want to try sphinx [15:47:54] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SphinxSearch [15:48:17] what you consider small site? [15:48:24] and for a big site? [15:48:33] for a larger one Extension:lucene-search, which requires java [15:48:47] large site = millions of pages [15:49:13] ok, thanks [15:49:24] are you mediawiki developer? [15:49:25] 03siebrand * r36156 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuth.i18n.php: [15:49:25] More none-content changes (one sentence on each line to facilitate localisation) [15:49:25] Does not require localisation updates. [15:49:53] yes, i'm working on the lucene-search extension [15:50:40] i'm not a dev but always wanted to catalog a city using mediawiki. My idea is something like: http://www.gizmogarden.com/index.php/City_Documentation_Project [15:50:49] but it's more a dream [15:50:56] has a search request [15:51:09] search widget [15:55:41] rainman-sr looking specialpages and version [15:55:57] i can see bt ajax whos online extension [15:55:57] you could definately duplicate the behavior of chickipedia [15:56:18] duplicate the behaviuor? [15:56:24] 03demon * r36157 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SpecialUpload.php): (bug 14496) Fix regression with parseinline on Special:Upload [15:57:20] i mean you could have those fancy drop-downs with pictures [15:57:28] 03(FIXED) Sourcefilename and destfilename messages should use wfMsgExt with parseinline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14496 +comment (10innocentkiller) [15:57:29] it you got a paid developer to do it [15:57:51] yes if i got [15:57:59] a free developer [15:58:19] wouldn't like to help? [15:58:35] or you get it from yahoo like them [15:59:07] like yahoo? [15:59:24] it would be unlikely that you'd get a free deveoper to work on your project (unless they were interested in it, of course), everyone who is able to program has their own pet projects that they would prefer to spend their time on [15:59:38] they use the yahoo widget for that drop-down with pictures [15:59:41] *^demon glances fondly at his pet project [16:00:00] ha ok, didn't know [16:00:36] 03rotem * r36158 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuth.i18n.php: Update for he. [16:02:06] MinuteElectron, it's also interesting how people think that software devel work should be free, because it's so "invisible".. and e.g. noone ever goes to the market to get cherries for free with an argument "it grows on a tree why don't you just give it to me" :) [16:02:26] e_s_p: hey there :-) I was wondering if your Description extension that's in use on http://vinismo.com/en/ is publically available, it seems like quite a useful tool [16:03:32] rainman-sr: hehe, indeed [16:03:57] hehe [16:04:02] i'm lost [16:05:38] lucene search will be implemented as standard on mediawiki 1.13 [16:05:58] but the visual will be the same? [16:06:04] what will chang? [16:06:15] lucene will never be the standard search [16:06:20] because it requires an external daemon [16:07:20] rainman-sr do you use replace text extension? [16:07:33] i'm sure i have a bug on it [16:08:11] lucene-search is targeted at large sites, which need stuff like distributed searching, etc.. as flyingparchment said it will never be a standard search extension [16:08:47] ha ok, thanks for letting me know [16:09:25] leonardo, no, you might want to put it on bugzilla, or possibly on the talk page on mediawiki.org to be sure the author is seeing it [16:09:41] alright [16:13:58] 03tstarling * r36159 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.class.php): [16:13:58] Fix r35696: [16:13:58] * Globals are bad, it kind of defeats the purpose of having getInstance() if you attempt to heuristically use $wgTitle in it. [16:13:58] * Don't use boolean parameters unless your life depends on it [16:13:58] * Fix getInstance() bloat (started by me and made much worse by r35696) [16:14:01] * Fixes bug 14443 [16:14:23] what's wrong with boolean parameters? [16:16:49] i think the argument is that they reduce code readability [16:19:46] 03mkroetzsch * r36160 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/SearchTriple/SMW_SpecialBrowse.php: Fix after minor API change [16:19:52] 03(FIXED) successful edit causes server to return HTTP 500 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14443 +comment (10tstarling) [16:20:23] it was brion's idea actually, I used to use them [16:20:27] but I have to admit he has a point [16:20:30] yo [16:20:33] hi brion [16:20:39] boolean parameters are bad aren't they? [16:20:59] i tend to dislike them as it's hard to tell what 'true' or 'false' means in an isolated function call [16:21:46] hi brion [16:21:50] they work in smalltalk or objective-c because methods are named like [wgParser parseText: "blah" atFirstLine: Yes] [16:22:01] but not so good as $wgParser->parse("blah", true) [16:22:19] or getInstance($title, true); [16:22:26] exactamundo :D [16:22:57] which is short for "get a FlaggedArticle instance from $title, or maybe if you feel like it, try to use $wgTitle instead and hit a fatal error because it doesn't exist" [16:23:12] heh [16:31:36] 03(NEW) Upload File - returns empty page- File upload is not possiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14498 major; normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (gorsa) [16:33:54] 03ashley * r36161 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES docs/hooks.txt includes/EditPage.php): Two new hooks to EditPage.php, EditPage::AfterEdit:Form and EditPage:BeforeDisplayingTextbox [16:34:46] > print class_exists('DOMDocument') ? 'true' : 'false' [16:34:47] false [16:35:12] sometimes I love being on linux, it would have been a major hassle to get a test install like that on windows [16:36:57] ah, except that now it segfaults on startup [16:37:06] well, you can't have everything [16:42:07] 03(mod) Upload File - returns empty page- File upload is not possiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14498 +comment (10Platonides) [16:47:29] Jack_Phoenix: I haven't packaged it up for public use, I don't think [16:47:57] e_s_p: any chance you might consider doing so? :-) [16:48:07] Hold on one sec... [16:48:58] brion, your toolserver account will expire 23th [16:48:58] June [16:48:59] ;) [16:49:28] i have a toolserver account? whatev :) [16:49:33] 03brion * r36162 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [16:49:33] * We no longer just give up on a missing upload base directory; it's now [16:49:33] created automatically if we have sufficient permissions! [16:49:33] (Note that upload_directory_missing and upload_directory_read_only still have crappy output as they show a non-obvious internal path in the output.) [16:50:13] Jack_Phoenix: OK, committing it to MW extensions now [16:50:29] well, there's a 'brion' account expiring [16:50:48] e_s_p, cool, thank you very much :-) [16:50:50] i suppose it was made for setting up all of that [16:50:51] Crap [16:51:06] hrmmm [16:51:07] brion: if you have a second, I have to update my SSH key for svn.wikimedia.org [16:51:18] yo [16:51:20] I got caught in the Debian insecure key scandal [16:51:46] Gnupg-signed email with new SSH key attached the best way to do it? [16:52:54] brion: you could be toolserver emeritus [16:55:00] Well, whether or not it's the best way to do it, I just did it [16:55:14] Jack_Phoenix: it might be a little while before this gets out [16:55:29] ok, no hurry ;-) [16:55:36] Send me an email at evan@vinismo.com, and I'll reply with the extension attached [16:55:44] sure thing [16:56:32] e_s_p: ah, gpg... making email harder to use since 199x [16:56:47] UNTRUSTED Good signature from Evan Prodromou (Wikitravel) [16:56:59] *brion looks suspiciously at this alleged evan [16:57:20] yeah never got round to much of that key signing stuff :) [16:57:34] e_s_p: message sent \o/ [16:57:36] *Platonides points out the evan on this channel doesn't have a cloak either... [16:57:51] brion, Wikimania seems a good place for that [16:57:55] Platonides: oh no! he must be an imposter! [16:58:11] brion: what the hell is a key sig? ;P [16:58:27] your key didn't come up as vulnerable on the test, but better safe than sorry :) [16:59:07] 03raymond * r36163 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Localisation updates German [16:59:25] AaronSchulz, you sign brion's key so when i receive brion's mail i can trust it [16:59:50] ...provided i was trusting you [16:59:50] I know, I was kidding [16:59:50] e_s_p: key replaced [17:00:32] Is there a variable within LocalSettings to force a language onto all users, and not let them deviate from it? I looked but didn't see anything [17:00:45] brion: keep on rockin', you rocking rocker you [17:00:54] :D [17:01:17] 03(NEW) CType application/rss+xml seems to be served as text/ x-wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14499 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (Wiki.Melancholie) [17:01:25] 03aaron * r36164 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Bump version [17:01:27] eghjaytee: yeah, it's called English [17:02:00] brion: Imperial English sounds like an awesome word [17:02:13] you know the only place I ever see those signed messages is on the mailing lists, which I read via gmane [17:02:46] and while I had enigmail installed and working (a brief window), I noticed that a lot of the signatures were invalid anyway because gmane obscures email addresses [17:03:03] brion: did you get that email? [17:03:12] that's one of the reasons i stopped using gmane [17:03:28] 03(mod) Upload File - returns empty page- File upload is not possiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14498 (10gorsa) [17:03:36] not just because of PGP, the email obfuscation was really annoying [17:03:37] *AaronSchulz giggles [17:03:47] 14(INVALID) CType application/rss+xml seems to be served as text/x-wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14499 +comment (10brion) [17:04:18] 03evan * r36165 10/trunk/extensions/Description/ (. Description.php): [17:04:18] Tries to insert a reasonable description meta tag into HTML output for [17:04:18] a page. These are typically picked up by search engines like Google or [17:04:18] Yahoo and used to describe the page. [17:04:34] AaronSchulz: Ok, let me ask you this then, is the setting case sensative? 'en' that is, because when I set it to 'En' within localsettings it works, but when a user changes prefernces and then changes the language back to english, it show up in the database for that user as 'en' and then all of the variable within the wiki that are language specific break. [17:04:49] Such that you don't get "Jump to: Navigation" as the description of a page. [17:05:05] this is 1.12.0 [17:05:15] eghjaytee: I was kidding :p [17:05:32] AaronSchulz: lol, but do you know why I would be getting these kinds of results [17:05:45] that shouldn't be case specific but it is [17:06:08] http://p.defau.lt/?OM7xD2naMXr33JHrgZt98w [17:06:23] seemed kind of stupid that I didn't know which of my two parsers is faster [17:06:29] since I'm meant to be the optimisation guy [17:06:42] that's on my laptop [17:06:52] :( [17:07:37] eghjaytee: it should be 'en' [17:07:44] 03rotem * r36166 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Update. [17:08:05] AaronSchulz: that is really wild, becuase it is only working now if it is 'En' [17:08:31] I even checked within user_options in user [17:08:39] 'en' doesn't work [17:08:53] they're really very close, it probably depends on the test case [17:09:06] this is an upgrade from 1.11.0 to 1.12.0 do I have to run any maintainance scripts? [17:09:20] eghjaytee: you need to run update.php [17:09:37] the parsing stage was actually faster in the DOM version [17:09:50] all articles start with upper case right? Is it possible to disable this in order to create correct article names such as iTunes? what confuses me is http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes which reads iTunes in the headline, but ITunes in teh categories [17:09:51] and the expansion I suppose is faster in the hash version [17:10:18] Subfader, you could make the whole title case-sensitive [17:10:19] Skizzerz: I did run update.php and the version is showing up as 1.12.0withi Special:Version [17:10:44] then you should be fine [17:10:49] Skizzerz: but I am not [17:10:55] what's wrong? [17:11:00] so I upgraded [17:11:01] ok teh article reads {{DISPLAYTITLE:iTunes}} on top. but still bad category and url view [17:11:29] Platonides: how do i do? can you point me to it? [17:11:30] and it broke my english language variables within mediawiki [17:11:41] Subfader: because the URL can't be changed and because categories don't check for displaytitle IIRC [17:11:52] eghjaytee: did you upload all of the new files? [17:11:58] when I log in, and choose english as the language all of the language specific variables within mediawiki look broke [17:12:05] Skizzerz: yes, I am pretty sure [17:12:16] i think i read here it possible to enable it as wanted.? [17:12:19] so 'En' works, but 'en; does not [17:12:20] $wgCapitalLinks = false; [17:12:22] try reuploading the /languages directory [17:12:30] ok [17:12:54] Platonides: thanks [17:13:29] Subfader: but impossible to use it on de.wp [17:14:50] 03tstarling * r36167 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Parser.php: Fix the default preprocessor here as well. [17:15:45] ok, I really need to fix that cyclic redundancy error [17:15:53] *AaronSchulz stokes his box [17:17:00] Skizzerz: ok now this is getting weird [17:17:37] now I have within the language selection box within my prefernces, En - En and en - English [17:17:53] En - En works, but en - English does not [17:18:40] ...wtf [17:18:49] no doubt [17:18:57] *Skizzerz pokes Nikerabbit [17:19:00] where do the languages come from in the drop down? [17:19:13] no idea -_- [17:19:16] languages/Names.php [17:19:20] this is from 11 - 12 [17:19:24] no [17:19:54] the codes come from the filenames of languages/messages/* [17:20:02] 14(WFM) Special:Listusers gives PHP "iconv(): Detected an illegal character in input string" error message on random binary input. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9454 +comment (10brion) [17:20:25] the names of course come from languages/Names.php, but you can have a name without it being listed [17:20:33] Skizzerz: here [17:20:55] Nikerabbit: how much do you know of how all the languages stuff works? [17:21:08] TimStarling: do I dont see En - En within Languages/Names.php [17:21:25] :%s/do// [17:21:42] uh? [17:21:46] what's the problem? [17:22:03] but I do see en - English, but if I choose that within the prefernces for the user, some aspects of english dont work [17:23:23] within user_options if language=en, some english stuff within mediawiki doesnt render, but if it is set to En then everything works [17:23:32] this is an upgrade from 1.11.0 to 1.12.0 [17:24:01] also, I see both en - en and En - Enlgish within my language drop down within the User preferences [17:25:11] ungh [17:25:19] 03(FIXED) problems with {{padleft:}} ({{padright:}}) and template arguments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7651 +comment (10rockmfr) [17:26:59] what's the value of $wgLanguageCode ? [17:27:19] Only Brion & Michael Dale registered as mentors for gsoc? [17:27:26] Nikerabbit: isn't that used for lang attributes? [17:27:29] Nikerabbit: 'En' [17:27:39] 03(mod) Upload File - returns empty page- File upload is not possiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14498 (10brion) [17:27:44] oh, you mean what is it set to, not what is it used for :) [17:27:46] yes Platonides [17:27:47] 1.12 works normal for me [17:27:50] but when it is 'en', I get broken variables in the views [17:27:57] i supposed so [17:28:36] was talking with leslie [17:28:37] if i'm doing it anyway i need a registered mentor [17:28:50] i don't know why, as far as it's completed [17:28:59] eghjaytee: what are these "broken variables" ? [17:29:30] i'm quite pissed off, just for getting a t-shirt :/ [17:29:39] Nikerabbit: <semicolon-separator> [17:29:44] within recent changes [17:30:30] there are others too [17:30:35] I am trying to find them [17:30:55] probably either your cache is corrupt or the language files are [17:30:55] Nikerabbit: upload-permitted [17:31:02] Simetrical: after implementing subpages moving (that was yours, right?), subpages deletion may be a nice idea [17:31:08] I just re-uploaded the 1.12.0 languages dir [17:31:51] I am seeing two english entries within the Languages drop down within the Special:Preferences [17:31:58] hmm simple [17:32:10] eghjaytee: do you have serializes language files? [17:32:39] I have no idea [17:32:44] what is that? [17:32:58] under serialized, is there .ser files? [17:33:21] I see a Utf8Case.ser [17:33:25] but that is it [17:33:40] hmp [17:36:50] anyway, setting wgLanguageCode to 'en' and clearing all caches should fix it [17:37:07] I will give it a show [17:37:13] what is the best way to clear all caches? [17:38:28] eghjaytee: touch LocalSettings.php [17:38:35] I see [17:38:51] ThomasV_: that doesn't clear all [17:39:01] no ? [17:39:11] nope [17:39:41] Nikerabbit: I changed it to "en" and the language specific variables are broken in recent changes [17:39:53] 03(mod) CType application/rss+xml seems to be served as text/x-wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14499 +comment (10Platonides) [17:40:25] do you have *CacheType variables set? [17:41:06] Nikerabbit: MainCacheType memcached [17:41:57] so the messages are cached in the database then, probably [17:42:44] so what should I do about that? [17:42:45] e_s_p: Fatal error: Call to undefined function MwRdfGetModel() in /var/www/wtest/extensions/Description/Description.php on line 73 -- after enabling Description, I get that error on article pages such as Main Page...MW 1.13a (newest from trunk) [17:44:01] truncating objectcache from the db might help [17:45:54] or check that there isn't stale files in the include paths [17:46:17] within LocalSettings? [17:48:51] Jack_Phoenix: yeah, that'd be the RDF extension thing I was talking about [17:49:37] 03(NEW) CheckUser's install.php doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14497 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CheckUser; (shaiaquanature) [17:49:43] mmmk [17:50:50] Nikerabbit: should there be a LanguageEn.php within languages/classes? [17:51:08] 03evan * r36168 10/trunk/extensions/Description/Description.php: Hide the RDF-related code if RDF extension not installed. [17:51:21] Jack_Phoenix: try this latest version [17:51:42] sure [17:52:34] 03(mod) CheckUser's install.php doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14497 (10brion) [17:52:41] e_s_p, yep, it works as it should -- thank you very much for all your help :) [17:52:44] probably not [17:53:52] Jack_Phoenix: np [17:54:00] Any updates or fixes appreciated of course [17:54:35] 03(mod) CheckUser's install.php doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14497 (10N/A) [18:07:22] 03(NEW) RSS/Atom feed doubled on Special:RecentChanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14500 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (Wiki.Melancholie) [18:09:33] 03(mod) Redundant Atom/RSS feeds on Special:RecentChanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14500 15enhancement->minor; summary (10Wiki.Melancholie) [18:12:52] hmm, that user has an annoying habbit of adding ! after every other sentence [18:14:24] <^demon|lunch> AaronSchulz: What user is this!? [18:23:41] 03(NEW) A way to hide the sidebar providing a "fullscreen" view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14501 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (hippytrail) [18:32:28] where can I delete a wanted category in mysql? i think there's some odd behaviour on $wgCapitalLinks = false; Before I set this to false I had a page reading [[Category:iTunes]] it was transformed to Category:ITunes Then I set it to false and deleted it cos i created Category:iTunes. Now "ITunes" pops up in Special:Wantedcategories huh? :O [18:36:33] seems that this was a cache thingy. i saved teh article page again. [18:38:10] 03(mod) 'SpecialPage_initList' hook appears to be broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14494 +comment (10seventowers) [18:49:09] 03ashley * r36169 10/trunk/extensions/wikiwyg/share/MediaWiki/extensions/WikiwygEditing/WikiwygEditing.php: [18:49:09] Wikiwyg: [18:49:09] *use the new EditPage hooks [18:49:09] *fix path error [18:49:09] *remove one unused global [18:49:11] *use MediaWiki messages instead of hardcoding strings [18:49:35] 03siebrand * r36170 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: Remove a Freecol optional [18:52:38] is that you jack [18:52:45] ya rly [18:53:12] (not like wikiwyg *still* works, it's more or less b0rken by design ^_^) [18:55:45] 03rotem * r36171 10/trunk/phase3/skins/common/ (mwsuggest.js wikibits.js): Avoid some of the strict JS warnings in Firefox. [19:00:50] hi all [19:01:48] has anybody else gotten the "Can't write config file, aborting" error? [19:01:59] yes. i fixed the config file so it could write, the retried [19:02:09] probably if the file permissions werent set correctly [19:02:15] with chmod right [19:02:21] but i'm on a windows box [19:02:25] so? [19:02:28] you can have file rights [19:02:28] i used an ACL, but you could use chmod [19:02:32] so the chmod trick won't work [19:02:33] or whatever the Windows equivalent is [19:02:39] it's not a trick, and it works fine on windows [19:02:41] what web server? [19:02:45] chmod? [19:02:48] php [19:02:56] php isnt a webserver [19:02:59] php isn't a webserver.. [19:03:00] do i need a webserver? [19:03:09] i don't think i have one [19:03:11] how else are you supposed to use it :/ [19:03:21] I'm just directing firefox to the wiki directory [19:03:31] *local wiki directory [19:03:33] lol [19:03:40] you need a webserver [19:03:42] k [19:04:03] do I put the media wiki file inside the webserver directory or something? [19:04:20] I thought that the mediawiki install was iteself a webserver [19:04:55] if you install apache, it goes in the htdocs folder, unless you setup a virtual folder for it [19:05:11] 03(mod) automatic created accounts do not appear as conflict when trying to remerge after unmerge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14403 (10spacebirdy) [19:11:16] which apache project should I download [19:11:20] there are soooo many [19:11:59] anakia, apache ant, batik, ... [19:14:27] 03(mod) 'SpecialPage_initList' hook appears to be broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14494 (10hoggwild5) [19:17:08] zzzen: you want the Apache HTTP server. [19:18:37] 03(mod) A way to hide the sidebar providing a "fullscreen" view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14501 (10brion) [19:21:16] 04(REOPENED) Login on secure server is global but doesn't tell you so - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14450 summary; +comment (10brion) [19:24:56] 03(NEW) Move edits from one user to another - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14502 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (smihael) [19:26:01] AaronSchulz: please view http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/EIA-422?redirect=no as anon... no images and no red links (plain text instead). any idea? [19:27:53] purged [19:28:03] heh, that looked like htmldump output [19:35:33] is the FileUpload hook called after the file is downloaded, or during download ? [19:36:10] i mead *uploaded* [19:38:38] hi [19:39:32] ThomasV: offhand i'm pretty sure it'd be after [19:40:02] is that really your question, or do you want to know if it's run before or after the file is _saved into the uploads system_? [19:40:18] (eg, in the images dir, with an 'image' table record and a page) [19:40:52] is there an option to set the summer/wintertime to gmt+01/gmt+02 ? [19:41:12] or do i have to update my LocalSettings.php $wgLocalTZoffset every half year? [19:42:04] aton`: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Timezone [19:42:23] if you set $wgLocalTZoffset based on the system's timezone info, it can be done automatically [19:42:25] brion : indeed, my question is when can I request a thumb [19:43:01] it appears that hooking at FileUpload seems to be too early [19:44:29] brion: thanks [19:51:41] brion: any idea ? [19:57:25] dunno [19:57:31] <^demon|away> New hook? [19:57:44] right now i don't think it's very easy to pull a thumb for something that's not totally recorded into a file repository [19:58:45] brion: but right after upload the user is redirected to the image page, and a thumb is displayed [19:59:02] how do you known when you can do that ? [20:00:02] beats me, dude :D [20:00:11] you'll just have to dive in and find out [20:00:21] :-( [20:01:42] 03(NEW) Cache pollution with messages in user (not content) language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14503 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (szymek) [20:03:25] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:MetaHomePages [20:03:56] As I click on ever link they shake Hehe:) [20:09:48] in mediawiki, is there a way to force the creation of thumbnails when uploading a new image ? [20:12:45] is there a plugin to for users to "rate" wiki pages? [20:16:41] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AjaxRatingScript [20:19:24] 03ialex * r36172 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (CHANGELOG Configure.php Configure.settings.php): Added $wgRC2UDPOmitBots. [20:36:58] oh, you're no fun anymore [20:37:29] *sniff* [20:39:55] *Splarka hands brion a frisbee [20:41:12] brion: idle thought: with SUL, more cross-domain visitors, what do you think of moving all common js, css, and style images to a central server so as to improve speed and caching (eg, have wikibits.js load from foo.wikimedia.org or something, for everyone) [20:42:22] Splarka: JavaScript must come from the domain it is being used on otherwise you get errors due to XSS prevention. [20:42:32] MinuteElectron: nope [20:42:37] heh [20:42:41] oh [20:42:41] only ajax [20:42:43] *MinuteElectron hides. [20:42:44] javascript can come from *any* domain, doesn't matter to the security model :) [20:42:48] *Splarka points to importScriptURI() [20:42:58] right, but it has to be standalone executable [20:43:06] you can't grab random data and parse it across domains [20:43:28] depends what you mean [20:43:36] well, for example... the API [20:43:40] you can execute javascript code from anywhere [20:43:53] you can, if you really wants, and can code really ugly [20:43:54] format=json returns unusable code, in the sense of a