[04:38:52] 03(mod) Enable GlobalBlocking extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8707 (10Andrew) [05:34:56] Hello, all! Is there a page that includes all 'wpXXXX' to be used in my Javascripts? For example, what's the correct code of: 'if(PageTitle=="User:OsamaK")'? [05:47:57] hi [06:22:20] 03(mod) Activate write API on production wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14210 (10maxsem.wiki) [06:33:13] is there anything special one needs to install to change the favicon for a wiki running mediawiki? [06:34:42] on wikia you just upload to a certain file name, but this one guy I was helping says he wasn't able to do the same on another site [06:34:50] I assume it's something pretty simple [06:39:17] Wikia does a trick [06:39:49] it points $wgFavicon to the predictable upload path of where File:Favicon.ico would be if it were to be uploaded [06:40:06] and, failing that, it has a redirect or symbolic link to the default favicon on central, or something [06:40:22] ah [06:40:40] clever [06:40:43] this is done because wikis automatically created should show something, so they probably don't need to worry about it [06:41:01] your friend can probably just point $wgFavicon to whatever filename they want it to show [06:41:22] as they would normally [06:41:26] gotcha [06:41:36] which might be something like /images/6/64/Favicon.ico [06:41:44] or whatever the image upload path thing is [06:41:57] be sure to use the raw image location and not the image description page [06:42:05] I wasn't sure if there was some kind of mediawiki specific thing to it (I'm half-noob myself) [06:42:49] well, you could also just have them set up a 30x redirect to that location [06:42:55] although some browsers won't load favicons as redirects [06:43:02] and some will, but will absolutely not purge it if it changes [06:43:22] so you can also set up a symbolic link, giving it a transparent (to the client) dual location [06:43:46] this has the major advantage of showing the desired favicon, not only on article views, but on image views, action=raw, gen, etc etc [06:44:33] (that is, a symlink from /favicon.ico to /images/6/64/Favicon.ico or whatever) [06:50:20] as always, you've been most helpful [06:50:40] my work is done here, and my planet needs me [06:53:26] earth? [07:09:58] 03(mod) Technical updates to bs.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13451 (10demicx) [07:23:09] Simetrical: ever hear of Dinesh D'Souza? [07:27:38] 03(NEW) Redirect wm08reg root to registration form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14545 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (wm-thunderhead) [07:28:39] 03(NEW) Remove bugs.wikipedia.org redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14546 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (wm-thunderhead) [07:43:50] *Splarka wonders in what way that is not a dupe of 14378 ... which was also opened by wm-thunderhead [07:53:36] hi [07:53:38] i have a question [07:54:13] Here is my error: require_once("$IP/extensions/SimpleTable.php"); require_once( "{$IP}/extensions/Cite/Cite.php" ); [07:54:15] Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting T_OLD_FUNCTION or T_FUNCTION or T_VAR or '}' in /hermes/web01/b869/pow.nascarmod134/htdocs/wiki/includes/Exception.php on line 182 [07:54:36] i just upgraded to the lastest software [07:56:30] i just upgraded the software for my wiki and I now have an error [07:56:42] require_once("$IP/extensions/SimpleTable.php"); require_once( "{$IP}/extensions/Cite/Cite.php" ); [07:56:44] Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting T_OLD_FUNCTION or T_FUNCTION or T_VAR or '}' in /hermes/web01/b869/pow.nascarmod134/htdocs/wiki/includes/Exception.php on line 182 [07:56:55] any idea how to fix that? [07:58:40] 03(mod) Remove bugs.wikipedia.org redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14546 +comment (10minuteelectron) [08:01:23] i dont see it in the localsettings.php [08:02:58] what file is that in [08:04:22] i dont see it in the exception.php either [08:04:32] Mod134: from what version did you upgrade? which version of php are you using? [08:04:51] how do i find out what php vers. i have [08:05:32] if the wiki is broken, and you don't have shell access.... http headers might help. or phpinfo [08:05:40] can you give me the url of your wiki? [08:05:57] yankeeracer.com/wiki [08:07:06] Splarka: "wikimedia" not "wikipedia". [08:07:12] version info in the header seems to be supressed [08:07:51] Mod134: make a file called info.php in your wiki's installation directory. It should have the following content: [08:08:49] Mod134: make sure the file is readable for php, then visit it with your browser. And remember to remove it once you are done -- it's not immediatly dangerous, but makes life a bit easier for attackers. [08:09:29] so just move it to teh wiki folder [08:09:31] no subfolder [08:09:54] MinuteElectron... [08:10:01] Bug 14546 – Remove bugs.wikipedia.org redirect [08:10:02] [08:10:09] Mod134: move what? [08:10:12] Bug 14378 – Remove "bugs.wikipedia.org" redirect to Bugzilla [08:10:18] the title of both, at least is wikiPedia [08:10:22] where do I upload that ifo.phtp to [08:10:24] Mod134: it doesn't really matter where that file is, as long as it's run through php [08:10:46] i'd suggest the wiki's installation dir [08:10:56] that file doesn't do anythign to mediawiki. it's completly independant. [08:11:11] PHP Version 4.4.7 [08:11:22] that's your probelm then [08:11:32] mediawiki requires php5 for any version after 1.6 [08:11:56] actually, the installer should have told you. how did you upgrade? [08:12:03] can I just reupload the old files? [08:12:04] did you run the update script? [08:12:19] no [08:12:20] i uploadd them [08:12:29] unzipped the file and uploaded them [08:12:30] well then it could never have worked anywqay :) [08:12:42] ah [08:12:43] can i just reupload the old files? [08:12:44] but if you didn't run the updater, then your db should still be in the old state [08:12:46] Splarka: Typo by wm-thunderhead then, the comment itself says wikimedia [08:12:53] so you can just go back to the old files, yes [08:12:54] tsk tsk [08:12:58] brb [08:14:53] require_once("$IP/extensions/SimpleTable.php"); require_once( "{$IP}/extensions/Cite/Cite.php" ); [08:14:55] any idea how to fix that? [08:15:46] showing up on the main page of the wiki [08:18:37] 03(mod) Remove bugs.wikipedia.org redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14546 (10wm-thunderhead) [08:20:19] All finished updating the files back to what they should be [08:21:19] Splarka: he is a NOOB [08:21:51] 03(WONTFIX) Remove bugs.wikipedia.org redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14546 +comment (10minuteelectron) [08:22:31] here are the current errors [08:22:33] Warning: main(/hermes/web01/b869/pow.nascarmod134/htdocs/wiki/extensions/SimpleTable.php) [function.main]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /hermes/web01/b869/pow.nascarmod134/htdocs/wiki/LocalSettings.php on line 134 [08:22:34] Fatal error: main() [function.require]: Failed opening required '/hermes/web01/b869/pow.nascarmod134/htdocs/wiki/extensions/SimpleTable.php' (include_path='/hermes/web01/b869/pow.nascarmod134/htdocs/wiki:/hermes/web01/b869/pow.nascarmod134/htdocs/wiki/includes:/hermes/web01/b869/pow.nascarmod134/htdocs/wiki/languages') in /hermes/web01/b869/pow.nascarmod134/htdocs/wiki/LocalSettings.php on... [08:22:36] ...line 134 [08:24:05] hit upload and it is better [08:26:43] require_once("$IP/extensions/SimpleTable.php"); require_once( "{$IP}/extensions/Cite/Cite.php" ); [08:26:45] that is what is says at the top fo the page [08:26:46] where do I place those additional lines in localsettings.php - before the ?> - that did not seem to fix it [08:32:25] Mod134: Have you even verified that /hermes/web01/b869/pow.nascarmod134/htdocs/wiki/extensions/SimpleTable.php exists? [08:42:03] Hello, everyone. I've gotten the backgrounds on my site changed, however, the buttons and tabs still have white backgrounds. How do I change them? The site is http://www.thewitchdiaries.com if my description is not clear [08:46:46] you should check monobook/main.css (if that is what your skin still is) and check for 'background', copy those bits of code to wherever you are editing (which should be MediaWiki:Monobook.css) and then modify them [08:47:39] for example you might see in : http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/monobook/main.css [08:47:41] this: [08:47:45] #p-cactions li a { [08:47:46] background-color: #fbfbfb; [08:47:59] OK. I will look for the p-* [08:48:19] you'd copy that to your MediaWiki:Monobook.css and change it, eg: #p-cactions li a { background-color: #ff00ff; } for hot magenta [08:48:30] #p-cactions are the tabs at the top [08:48:47] portlets and pBody are the general sidebars and logo and tabs and personal bar [08:49:02] and anything with a background: or background-color: is likely to be something you wish to change [08:50:02] Thanks [08:50:59] share and enjoy [08:56:00] using api.php, is the right way of getting the latest page contents to use the action=query&prop=revivions&titles=pagetitle&rvprop=content - or is there another way which can be used ? [08:57:22] Splarka, Thanks, that did it, for the front page...now to dig into the rest of the site, looking for white pages... ;) [08:57:57] Zylogue: be sure to check the other css files, such as common/shared.css [08:58:58] Buzz: that's the way I usually do it, you can also use action=parse if you want the rendered html [09:00:11] Splarka: its just that because its designed to return multiple stuff, its quite busy xml. i wondered if there was a simpler route. im using perl (making an api.php perl module) , and i have something like [09:00:14] my $query = ($self->api( { action => 'query', prop => 'revisions', titles => $page, rvprop => $rvprop } )); [09:00:14] return $query->{query}->{pages}->{page}->{revisions}->{rev}; [09:00:31] well, you could just use action=raw via index.php [09:00:59] yeh but as im making an api perl module, i should probably do it all through the api. then you dont need to know the URL structure of the site. just the api url [09:01:42] well, knowing the api URL you (with probably very few exceptions) then know the index.php URL [09:01:58] as they are both in the scriptpath [09:02:18] however, you might look at some of the other formats available in the api [09:04:19] yes perhaps i could find an easier format to parse.. although there is json which is handy for javascript, im not sure it would help much with perl. yml which is easier to read, but not easier to parse really i think.. well.. im using an xml library anyway [09:04:33] but only XML::Simple as the better ones are so poorly documented ;-) [09:04:48] s/better/more functional/ [09:06:14] well anyway.. its not a problem to write like return $query->{query}->{pages}->{page}->{revisions}->{rev}; so long as "pages" isnt renamed to something else in the future and everything breaks [09:07:43] if it is, someone will stab roan I am sure [09:07:59] :) [09:08:02] but that does seem to be the most direct route to a revision contents without action=raw or action=edit [09:08:17] you can also specify by ID if so desired, eg: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&titles=Foo&rvprop=content and http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&revids=216837249&rvprop=content [09:08:47] aah ok ... thanks for your advice. [09:08:48] or indeed by page ID: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&pageids=9132808&rvprop=content [09:09:31] and there are probably several other silly ways to acquire the information... [09:09:34] but this is something you will have had to have previously.. but i oculd make a call in my module where you start performing an action on a page. and it does it all by page id. so you have like a $page object [09:10:01] such as: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=parse&text={{msgnw::foo}} (which will corrupt the page just a wee bit) [09:10:31] aha by parsing a temaplte with page name [09:10:34] i see.. [09:10:45] well, msgnw:, with associated disclaimers [09:11:02] Splarka: you are a main mediawiki dev ? [09:11:07] haha no [09:11:23] but I like pointing out to them whenever I find a mistake how glad they should be that I am not [09:11:30] :) [09:11:36] I am just a user [09:11:55] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template#msgnw [09:12:17] ahaa i see [09:12:27] what do you use mediawiki for. own project/site ? [09:12:55] nope, I just edit on wikipedia a bit, and some associated projects (commons, meta, mw, etc) [09:28:59] Splarka: another api question (since you know so much :-) ). how can i pull out a list of "sub categories" for a category ? [09:34:24] Buzz_: categorymembers and filter for namespace:14 [09:34:33] eg: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=categorymembers&cmtitle=Category:Cats&cmnamespace=14 [09:34:48] ahaaa.. [09:35:12] see i read categorymembers but it only talks about articles etc. so i got confused [09:35:17] but of course categories are pages too [09:35:40] sometimes they are, except when displaying their members, which they'll only do on themselves [09:35:44] heh heh [09:35:47] :) [09:49:25] bonjour [09:49:31] comment poser une question ici ? [09:50:28] qui peut m'aider ? [09:50:38] problème avec l'importation d'images [09:52:51] qui peut m'aider ? [09:54:09] qui peut m'aider ? [09:54:12] qui est là ? [09:58:15] I have a problem with mediawiki cookies [09:59:05] I'm using a mediawiki plugin for Mambo, and it seems that in order to get the cookies of each to sync, I have to programatically remove the mediawiki cookies [09:59:06] hello [09:59:24] i've got a question bout html in medaiwiki [09:59:26] does anyone know where I should be looking [09:59:38] ?? [10:00:01] how do I allow html tags in the wiki ? [10:01:42] nobody can help me ? [10:02:34] !html | BadYaBoy [10:02:34] --mwbot-- BadYaBoy: For allowing any and all HTML, see . This is of course VERY DANGEROUS. Safer options include , and . [10:04:17] can anyone help me too? [10:04:57] if not can someone tell me how to redirect Special:Userlogout to somewhere else? [10:06:00] oh... thx ^^ [10:07:03] but [10:07:18] i've allowed the rwaHTML in thde DefaultSettings.php [10:07:23] and it doesn't work [10:08:10] tried wrapping it in in the code? [10:08:37] google [10:08:48] moment ^^ [10:11:53] hmz... that works [10:12:45] but [10:12:52] my table doesn't work... [10:12:56] right, in with raw html enabled, no sanitizing is taking place [10:12:58] ... [10:13:01] tables are already allowed [10:13:27] maybe tidy is to blame [10:13:28] !tidy [10:13:28] --mwbot-- Wikimedia uses HTML Tidy, which allows mixed html and wikitables inside parser functions and templates. This can often be confusing for people copying templates from Wikimedia projects. For more information about HTML Tidy, see . [10:13:48] ahhh =) [10:13:49] also, don't mix wiki snytax and html syntax for tables [10:14:04] here: [10:14:07] i've mode [10:14:26] [10:14:28] [10:14:29] [10:14:31] [10:14:32] [10:14:34] [10:14:35] [10:14:36] BadYaBoy: please don't paste code here [10:14:37] [10:14:38] [10:14:40] [10:14:41] [10:14:43] [10:14:44] BadYaBoy: 3 lines is max on irc. use a pastebin [10:14:44] [10:14:46] [10:14:47] [10:14:49] [10:14:50] >_< [10:14:50]
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[10:14:52] [[Bild:Koetter.jpg|left|70px]] [10:14:52] STOP [10:14:53] 1. Vorsitzender [10:14:55] sorry [10:15:16] well, the nowiki will kill it [10:15:17] so [10:15:19] and you can see tr and td [10:15:32] indeed. nowiki sais "output this as is". [10:15:39] and colgroup isn't whitelisted (as it isn't omnibrowser compliant, and probably deprecated) [10:15:43] not as html, but as plain text [10:15:48] actually, pre is "output this as is" [10:15:58] nowiki is just "escape this but linewrap it and eat whitespace" [10:15:59] ^_^ [10:16:02] Splarka: well... both are, in a way :) [10:16:26] nowiki -> OM nom nom -> whitespace [10:16:41] hehe [10:16:52] and indent preserves whitespace, but does other processing. fun :) [10:17:17] well, it puts output in pre after running it through the parser... [10:17:22] while 
 doesn't
[10:17:32] 	fun ambiguity
[10:17:53] 	and then there is #tag:pre mwahah
[10:18:54] 	i've allowed html but now i know my prob xD...
[10:19:25] 	well, you don't need to allow all html just to create tables. they are allowed already.
[10:19:26] 	yes... but in the older versions of mediawiki  says: ths is no wiki code or ?
[10:19:30] 	and allowing html is quite dangerous
[10:20:00] 	BadYaBoy:  sais "this is not wiki code and no html and no other kind of code at all"
[10:20:05] 	yes... but nobody can work on the pages without the passwort
[10:20:24] 	hmz... in mediawiki 9.5 the code works .... Oo
[10:20:46] 	damn time travellers
[10:20:51] 	hmz... können wir uns eig. auch auf deutsch unterhalten ?
[10:20:53] 	^^
[10:21:00] 	yes =D
[10:21:04] 	give us lottery numbers or leave us alone!
[10:21:20] 	lottery numbers... what's that ?
[10:21:21] 	xD
[10:21:38] 	(nothing)
[10:21:54] 	ok
[10:22:04] 	thanks for your help =D
[10:38:27] 	hey
[10:38:40] 	can anyone help me out?
[10:39:12] 	is there another developer IRC channel for mediawiki?
[10:39:34] 	!ask | Senaka 
[10:39:34] --mwbot--	Senaka: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC.
[10:40:02] 	:)
[10:40:04] 	thanks...
[10:40:22] 	I did ask the question
[10:41:04] 	I want to know how to programatically handle cookies
[10:41:14] 	cookies in mediawiki I mean
[10:41:21] 	where should I look into
[10:41:23] 	?
[10:41:32] 	from an extension?
[10:42:17] 	yes from the wiki extension for Joomla, it uses mediawiki inside it
[10:42:42] 	basically it maintains two streams of cookies... Joomla ones and mediawiki ones
[10:42:54] 	the issue is that they are not syncd
[10:43:09] 	when i log out from Joomla my wiki session is still up
[10:43:17] 	which is not what is expected
[10:43:43] 	and they say that it is a known issue... so I gotta fix it on my own...
[10:44:59] 	I have one more question
[10:45:16] 	I have a customized page instead of "Main Page"
[10:45:28] 	I moved the Main Page and created this page
[10:45:44] 	03tstarling * r36299 10/trunk/tools/rg-vuln-check/rg-vuln-check.php: Support for $GLOBALS[...]
[10:45:51] 	I'd like to get rid of the "(Redirected from Main Page)" uder the title
[10:48:45] 	well i cannot help with joomla, don't really know how that works, but for mainpage you can set your mainpage name in MediaWiki:mainpage, so you don't get redirected
[10:50:56] 	thanks.. let me check on that
[10:53:13] 	I managed to hack the joomla issue. But this is not a proper solution. I'd like to figure out a proper solution so that I can make someone else's life easy
[10:53:47] 	i had to create a zero-pixel iframe to call that logout page :) I don't think that's neat
[11:34:48] 	!spawn roan
[11:34:48] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "spawn".
[11:35:10] 	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiEditPage.php?r1=36235&r2=36234&pathrev=36235 looks fishy
[11:39:27] 	what's the syntax for an imagelink?
[11:39:49] 	[[image:link]]
[11:39:49] 	?
[11:39:49] 	:P
[11:40:01] 	I want a icon with flags for linking to localized versions of the pages
[11:40:05] 	AzaTht: In what way?
[11:40:33] 	the md5 is depending on text, prependtex, and appendtext concatted
[11:40:54] 	so a link that is a icon, not a link to an image :)
[11:41:13] 	AzaTht: yes, and..?
[11:41:14] 	Higdur_: use #tag + imagemap
[11:41:38] 	MinuteElectron: will "null" be appended as "null"?
[11:41:43] 	or as nothing?
[11:41:56] 	'\0' or ''
[11:42:06] 	AzaTht: ok, where can I find more info on this?
[11:42:12] 	!imagemap
[11:42:12] --mwbot--	ImageMap is an extension that allows you to override the default linking behavior of images. See  for more information.
[11:42:16] 	AzaTht: It won't get append at all, because it only gets append if those parameters aren't null.
[11:42:18] 	thakns
[11:42:24] 	AzaTht, what's #tag ?
[11:42:25] 	+ spelling
[11:42:30] 	first time I hear about it
[11:42:57] 	MinuteElectron: and if I'm only going to append text, I don't want to have to always download the whole content just to be able to calculate the md5
[11:43:20] 	Dor: a way to allow paramters in tag hooks
[11:43:23] 	!#tag
[11:43:23] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "#tag".
[11:43:26] 	!tag
[11:43:26] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "tag". You might try: !csshideheader !dpl !poem !release !subversion 
[11:43:30] 	gaah
[11:43:35] 	AzaTht: fine
[11:43:48] 	AzaTht, example?
[11:43:56] 	Dor, Higdur_: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Click
[11:44:14] 	MinuteElectron: fine?
[11:44:40] 	ok
[11:44:43] 	ok
[11:44:53] 	thanks
[11:45:44] 	AzaTht, I still don't see how this has to do with #tag
[11:46:25] 	Dor: yea, my misstake, imagemap is good if only used once
[11:46:43] 	hm, why is there no equivalent to MS paint in OS X :/
[11:46:55] 	I know imagemap I just dunno what's #tag! :P
[11:46:56] 	not that I miss it often :)
[11:47:06] 	but as he said in plural, I assumed that he wanted to be able to go via an template
[11:47:26] 	Dor: {{#tag:foo}} == 
[11:47:50] 	yeah, Template:Click seems perfect
[11:47:50] 	ooooo
[11:47:54] 	it's a way to allow expansion of parameters into tag-hooks
[11:48:07] 	{{#tag:foo|test}} = test ?
[11:48:12] 	yea
[11:48:15] 	k
[11:48:17] 	thanks :)
[11:48:42] 	and {{#tag|foo|bar|baz=quux}} == bar
[11:48:48] 	z*
[11:49:06] 	!TagParser
[11:49:06] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "tagparser".
[11:49:14] 	stupid bot
[11:49:19] 	need to look that up
[11:49:57] 	!{{!}}
[11:49:57] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "{{!}}".
[11:50:03] 	!image
[11:50:03] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "image". You might try: !colon !externalimages !imagelink !imagemagic !imagemap !images !logo !safemode !thumb !uploads 
[11:50:08] 	!colon
[11:50:08] --mwbot--	To escape the usual function of [[Image:]] links, [[Category:]] links, [[en:Interlanguage]] links, and create an inline simple link, prefix a colon. [[:Image:Wiki.png]], [[:Category:Cats]], [[:en:Foobar]]. A colon can also be used to transclude an article in the main namespace, eg {{:Main_Page}}.
[11:50:53] 	!imagemap
[11:50:53] --mwbot--	ImageMap is an extension that allows you to override the default linking behavior of images. See  for more information.
[11:51:59] 	huh
[11:52:23] 	!tag is {{#tag:...}} is a way to allow parameter expansion in tag hooks. Since MW 1.12 it's builtin into Mediawiki, and versions befoer that must use http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TagParser to anable the functionallity.
[11:52:23] --mwbot--	Successfully added keyword: tag
[11:52:34] 	!tag
[11:52:34] --mwbot--	{{#tag:...}} is a way to allow parameter expansion in tag hooks. Since MW 1.12 it's builtin into Mediawiki, and versions befoer that must use http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TagParser to anable the functionallity.
[11:52:45] 	how do you add stuff?
[11:52:47] 	gah
[11:52:48] 	:P
[11:53:11] 	!tag is {{#tag:...}} is a way to allow parameter expansion in tag hooks. Since MW 1.12 it's builtin into Mediawiki, and versions before that must use http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TagParser to enable the functionallity.
[11:53:11] --mwbot--	Keyword "tag" already exists. Use "!tag del" to remove it.
[11:53:18] 	!tag del
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[11:53:19] 	!tag is {{#tag:...}} is a way to allow parameter expansion in tag hooks. Since MW 1.12 it's builtin into Mediawiki, and versions before that must use http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TagParser to enable the functionallity.
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[11:53:23] 	there
[11:54:06] 	!tag
[11:54:06] --mwbot--	{{#tag:...}} is a way to allow parameter expansion in tag hooks. Since MW 1.12 it's builtin into Mediawiki, and versions before that must use http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TagParser to enable the functionallity.
[12:00:13] 	!list
[12:00:13] --mwbot--	http://lists.wikimedia.org
[12:00:21] 	!he
[12:00:21] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "he". You might try: !answer !bizzwiki !cms !csshideheader !domdocument !dpl !editbuttons !extranamespace !install !interwiki !ldap !moderation !multiplewiki !mwbot !parserfunctions !phpinfo !rewriteproblems !smtp !userapproval !webrequest 
[12:00:29] 	!mirc
[12:00:29] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "mirc".
[12:00:50] 	!irc
[12:00:50] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "irc". You might try: !ask !rcbot !repeat 
[12:00:57] 	huh
[12:01:12] 	poor bot
[12:01:14] 	!imagelink
[12:01:14] --mwbot--	Image linking is intentionally not supported in MediaWiki, so access to the image's description page is always available. If you need image links, see  for methods and information. One way to achieve this is .
[12:01:33] 	doesn't know anything about his medium
[12:01:45] 	nope
[12:01:46] 	!bot
[12:01:46] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "bot". You might try: !access !botbrain !chanspam !help !mwbot !rcbot !rights !userrights 
[12:01:54] 	he doesn't even know what he is
[12:01:57] 	poor guy
[12:02:03] 	!help
[12:02:03] --mwbot--	Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot >, you can find all my source code at < http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn >. A dump is now available at < http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html >
[12:02:06] 	!myself
[12:02:06] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "myself".
[12:02:12] 	he does know!
[12:04:22] 	!table
[12:04:22] --mwbot--	For help on creating tables in wikitext, see  and 
[12:04:24] 	is there any easy way to mass import images into the wiki?
[12:04:33] 	!subst
[12:04:33] --mwbot--	Substitution is automatic conversion of wikitext of a page referring to a templatehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template, variable, or parser function when the referring page is saved. You can read more about it on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Substitution
[12:04:38] 	maintenance script, I think
[12:05:10] 	I just found a pack with 247 flag icons, and I don't fancy importing them manually :)
[12:05:27] 	otherwise I'll just grab the ones I need for now
[12:07:14] 	Higdur_: how about the fancy script called importImages.php?
[12:07:28] 	it's in the maintenance dir
[12:07:36] 	!if
[12:07:36] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "if". You might try: !cms !config !csshideheader !domdocument !enotif !extranamespace !file !iframe !imagelink !moderation !multiplewiki !phpinfo !repeat !rewriteproblems !shell !subversion !sul !syntax !test !welcome 
[12:07:50] 	!parserfunctions | Dor
[12:07:50] --mwbot--	Dor: "Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!).  For help using parser functions, please see . For details about the extension, see .
[12:11:18] 	03(mod) logo of sq.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14513  (10N/A)
[12:29:59] 	Duesentrieb: sounds good
[12:30:24] 	can't seem to get it to work though
[12:30:57] 	it just prints two warnings, then the usage
[12:56:01] 	03(NEW) "Invert selection" should also be in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14547 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (robin_1273)
[13:37:22] 	there is no + in the titles?
[13:43:10] 	alnokta: + is not permitted in titles by default, but Wikipedia (and all Wikimedia wikis AFAIK) do permit it.
[13:44:07] 	you may get problems with + in titles depending on your method of creating short urls
[13:45:01] 	MinuteElectron, NAD+ is shortened to NAD http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAD+ (NAD is redirect)
[13:46:56] 	what about http://ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NAD%2B ?
[13:47:05] 	(doesn't seem to exist)
[13:48:10] 	yes creating it
[13:56:51] 	Hi, I want to write a gadget that modifies article links. so where ever the system gives out an article link an icon should be shown net to it linking to the edit page of the article link. I just dunno where to start as there doesn#t seem to be  agadget yet that uses article links in any form. I just need a hint how to start.
[13:58:11] 	does the mediwiki api.php have file upload call ?
[13:58:29] 	Platonides, so thats a glitch in ff3?
[14:02:34] 	alnokta, i think it's a linking problem
[14:02:46] 	a + in a url can be understood as a space
[14:03:24] 	Subfader use the array document.getElemetnByIg('contentSub').getElementsBagName('a')
[14:03:39] 	*document.getElementById('contentSub').getElementsByTagName('a')
[14:07:34] 	alnokta: thanks
[14:07:36] 	oops
[14:08:57] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Edit_-_Uploading_files - damn not supported yet..
[14:09:02] 	the one thing left i need
[14:13:55] 	What are you trying to do?'
[14:14:02] 	me ?
[14:14:25] 	i want to upload files with api.php which doesn't yet support the functionality :)
[14:15:40] 	im porting functionality from an old mediawiki perl module to a new one which uses the new api.php functionality
[14:15:47] 	and upload is the last thing on my list
[14:17:38] 	Is it for a bot?
[14:18:28] 	yep
[14:18:47] 	but the perl module will be released i guess publically also
[14:29:59] 	thanks Platonides. trying
[14:59:11] 	ok I'm too dumb. I'd pay 25 Euros if someone can code it for me ;)
[15:05:11] 	03(mod) Spelling mistake - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14527  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[15:09:14] 	then i might give it a try 
[15:10:19] 	hello,anyone got a idea how to show articles that are members of two selected categories?
[15:10:54] 	category intersection?
[15:11:03] 	mediawiki don't support it
[15:11:11] 	alghough there has been a lot of discussion abot it
[15:11:20] 	and you may find some implementations
[15:11:32] <^demon>	DPL does a decent job of category intersections.
[15:12:12] 	the new one?
[15:12:40] <^demon>	Yeah.
[15:12:57] 	DPL, eh?
[15:13:16] <^demon>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList
[15:13:57] <^demon>	Has issues with 1.12 and above, however.
[15:14:56] 	issues like 'totla crash' or like 'finest features wont work'?
[15:15:02] 	total even
[15:15:49] <^demon>	Eh, not entirely sure. It's a parser issue, so it's anything that involves parser calls. I think *some* features work, and some don't.
[15:15:58] <^demon>	Using the old parser will make it work again.
[15:31:51] 	03(FIXED) Display "Templates used on this page" in "View source" mode. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2464  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[15:49:47] 	03(mod) document.write() breaks under application/xhtml+xml in skins/ common/wikibits.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2186  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[15:50:39] 	03(mod) document.write() breaks under application/xhtml+xml in skins/ common/wikibits.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2186   +need-review (10innocentkiller)
[15:57:02] 	why does it take so long time doing an snv up?
[15:57:16] 	svn*
[15:57:27] 	because it is fat?
[15:57:42] 	hehe
[15:58:03] 	MW follows KISS? yes/no?
[15:58:08] 	no
[15:58:48] 	just have a look at the parser :<)
[15:58:53] 	it follows PUNCH :P
[15:59:47] 	and it finally reached my 21MB memory limit
[16:03:08] 	give it 21^2 and it will be fine
[16:03:31] 	03demon * r36300 10/trunk/extensions/Newuserlog/Newuserlog.php: Minor typo in description.
[16:03:33] 	it actually mean that I will have to install a php debugger, get traces and hunt the memory eater :p
[16:04:12] <^demon>	AzaTht: Mind looking at some JS I wrote? 
[16:04:16] 	memory should be deprecated 
[16:04:31] <^demon>	alnokta2: In favor of...?
[16:04:33] 	^demon: ok
[16:04:45] <^demon>	!bug 2186
[16:04:45] --mwbot--	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2186
[16:04:57] <^demon>	AzaTht: The non-obsolete patch there ^
[16:05:33] 	^demon, of some another soln.  
[16:05:59] 	hmm
[16:06:15] <^demon>	AzaTht: Trying to get rid of some of the lingering document.write()'s
[16:06:42] 	you can use importStylesheetURI ?
[16:07:32] 	^demon, and don;t take it too seriously as i haven't slept for a loong time
[16:07:45] 	but otherwise, it looks ok
[16:08:08] <^demon>	AzaTht: That uses @import?
[16:08:34] 	yea
[16:09:15] <^demon>	Wasn't there a discussion on wikitech-l about the benefits of one vs. the other?
[16:09:28] 	dunno
[16:09:54] 	03(NEW) Wrong filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14548 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Drilldown; (dasch_87)
[16:18:13] 	is there any way to see what a template expands to?
[16:18:34] 	I mean, given certain arguments
[16:18:46] 	see the wikicode generated
[16:33:06] 	hi, is there a way to export a list from a category page? for instance, i want to generate a list of car makes
[16:37:13] 	patba1, I think it is
[16:42:05] 	^demon: There was, @import doesn't work in legacy browsers
[16:48:11] 	cant api.php do that?
[16:51:02] 	patba1, just go to Special:export and import pages from that category, copy and apste
[16:51:04] 	*paste
[16:53:41] <^demon>	MinuteElectron: That's right. 
[16:59:13] 	03(mod) Fonts are off in rasterized SVG images on wikimedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3769  +comment (10feroflo)
[17:01:12] 	03(mod) Thumb.php occasionally fails with error "ulimit4.sh: line 4: / usr/local/bin/rsvg: No such file or directory" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14535  +comment (10tstarling)
[17:02:23] 	03grondin * r36301 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesUz.php: 
[17:02:23] 	Updating namespace in ouzbec language, on Abdulla's request
[17:02:23] 	Updating core message.
[17:02:33] 	Platonides: ah thanks
[17:05:07] 	03ialex * r36302 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (7 files): Added manage.php maintenance script to do maintenance with configuration files
[17:07:05] 	03ialex * r36303 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/manage.php: Damn, forgot debugging code
[17:09:47] 	is there a way to disable a script (which is defined in monobook) via a gadget? e.g. monobbok: "function Bla {}" / gadget: "No function Bla". So enabling the gadget will disable the script.
[17:37:53] 	hi
[17:43:38] 	w00t. my perl api interface module now edits!
[18:01:44] 	03(NEW) custom classes for different wiki families - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14549 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (alistrius)
[18:04:59] 	hey guys, what are some good hosts for MW?  I mean shared/server hosting, not sites that give you a MW.
[18:05:25] 	a VPS
[18:05:54] 	flyingparchment: any companies in particular?
[18:06:06] 	i like goscomb.net
[18:06:41] 	they're quite expensive though
[18:08:22] 	i don't know how expensive they are.  what is the pound-$ conversion?
[18:08:26] 	can just use GoDaddy - $40/yr?
[18:08:49] 	slicehost.com has a VPS for $20/mo
[18:09:06] 	mikedub: have you tried them out? any probs?
[18:09:21] 	heard lots of good things, but never used them myself no.
[18:09:44] 	depends on the mass of your visitors. RAM is expensive and more important than webspace / traffic
[18:10:05] 	ram and potentially bandwidth
[18:10:10] 	homedawg: £1 = $1.95
[18:10:36] 	so everything under 20$ a month must be shit³
[18:11:18] <^demon>	Subfader: For the most part, yes.
[18:11:25] 	get a ashared linux VPS where you can easily upgrade the system if visitors grow
[18:11:56] 	Subfader: know a good place to do that?
[18:12:01] 	so a starting package could be still cheap but you should be able to upgrade
[18:12:09] 	Subfader: yeah that would be ideal
[18:12:27] 	i'm on german www.hosteurope.de dunno if they handle english costumers
[18:14:04] 	Subfader: well, i go your link I see it all in german, i go to http://www.hosteurope.com/ and I see a link to your site and a link to http://www.webfusion.co.uk/
[18:14:17] 	so maybe http://www.webfusion.co.uk/ is connected to your site
[18:14:33] 	and i went through all VPS instances from L to Max :D their service is ace. NEVER had ANY problem in 1,5 years. superb support / telephone or e-mail. they also install scripts for 10€ if you want etc
[18:14:43] 	their in english, though currency different from USA
[18:16:00] 	Subfader: man i guess is should learn german.  any ideas for until I do?
[18:17:21] 	I guess you can find other services as good as this. the problem is just that they all tell you they're the best
[18:17:56] 	i had a horror host before so i was more than happy to have this recommended by a mate
[18:19:28] 	yeah, i'm trying to get ppl's reccomendations to avoid trouble down the line
[18:19:35] 	just to bear in mind: the less colorful the website the more professional they may be. cheapest cannot be best. 
[18:20:26] 	ok. thanks
[18:20:29] 	np
[18:24:44] 	hello ! I've a strange UNIQ problem. My page include a call to a uncludable special page, which outputs some results using a template. Then some (not all) titles of the page, and extensions, are replaced by UNIQ. Here is the code : http://pastebin.com/d62039970 Can you tell me what's wrong?
[18:25:02] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Edit_-_Move - does this mean you need to get the move token for that page. or you can get it at logon for any page and its valid for all pages ?
[18:25:16] 	or its relevent like the edit token in that it refers to a specific revision ?
[18:25:42] 	UNIQ is an unsolved problem. ahd probs with it asweöö
[18:26:00] 	?
[18:26:34] 	just check how many other extensions are bugged by UNIQ / QINU  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=UNIQ&go=Go
[18:27:57] 	what is strange, is that == One title in the page == outputs 
UNIQ... One title in the page

[18:29:35] 	with api.php can i use the lgtoken returned @ login to do edits/deletes etc ?
[18:30:37] 	aah i think i can.. ok
[18:32:20] 	yes as many other things are strange about it :D i gave up the extensions which were bugged by UNIQ as no one could help on the talk page. e.g. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:CurrentUsers
[18:33:02] 	03(ASSIGNED) linktrail for digraphs wih apostrophe or grave accent - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14539  +comment (10dan_the_man)
[18:36:10] 	03(mod) Provide updated distributions of the custom templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9025  (10dan_the_man)
[18:36:22] 	03(mod) Make customised BugZilla source available in Subversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10711  (10dan_the_man)
[18:37:41] 	how can i use an underscore in titles so it's not displayed as blank?
[18:40:28] 	03aaron * r36304 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.php): 
[18:40:28] 	* Add noprint to some display items
[18:40:28] 	* White spacing
[18:40:38] 	03(FIXED) "Review this revision" is printed out - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14542  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[18:41:28] 	03(mod) custom classes for different wiki families - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14549  +comment (10dan_the_man)
[18:48:42] 	03(mod) custom classes for different wiki families - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14549  (10alistrius)
[18:49:01] 	14(INVALID) shared.css: Prepend Cambria to texhtml fonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14532  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[18:50:49] 	03demon * r36305 10/trunk/extensions/InterwikiList/ (4 files): Refactor Extension:InterwikiList and put it into SVN.
[18:54:43] 	03(mod) custom classes for different wiki families - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14549  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[18:58:24] 	Simetrical: Dennett did not seem to do to well against D'Souza :(
[18:58:40] 	is he usually better at verbal debates?
[18:58:59] 	I have no idea, I've read one book by Dennett and don't think I've heard of D'Souza.
[19:00:42] 	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw7J15TeDG4
[19:00:47] 	the whole debate is on there
[19:02:56] 	03(mod) Change autoconfirmed settings on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14191  (10kaldari)
[19:09:37] 	03(mod) custom classes for different wiki families - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14549  (10alistrius)
[19:24:56] 	according to token on mediawiki (using api), move tokens are the same as edit tokens. or at least equivalent. does they are identical (interchangable) ?
[19:25:02] 	does this mean they are
[19:26:18] 	Buzz_, probably.  Why don't you try?  :)
[19:27:00] 	Buzz_: currently, yes
[19:27:04] 	Buzz_: in the future they might not be
[19:27:10] 	Simetrical: well. i wonder if they are. why the api docs say to get them seaparately and called them different names in the xml. and i wonder if they might be different in the future. 
[19:27:11] 	aah i see
[19:27:16] 	ok. so ill process them separately
[19:27:29] 	thanks
[19:27:51] 	at least, the API people think it might not be
[19:28:00] 	I don't see why they think that.
[19:28:01] 	who knows what happens in our reality ;-)
[19:28:03] 	right.. well.. i want to make this as flexible as possible
[19:29:26] 	but once i have an edit token. i can cache it and use it for future edit from the same login session right ?
[19:37:47] 	hello. i have a problem with the search function : it seems to only search on what is visible, not the source. For exemple i'm looking for links to a given site, i can see one of them "[http://mysite asdfasdfasdf ]" and searching for 'mysite' wont find it.
[19:38:01] 	is there any way to do what i want ?
[19:38:28] 	orzel: Special:Linksearch allows you specifically to search for external links.
[19:38:52] 	other than that... some stuff are filtered out before the text is processed for the search index. i don't know details though. ask rainman-sr maybe
[19:39:49] 	Duesentrieb: i have "No such special page"
[19:40:14] 	mmh. mediawiki 1.10.0... 
[19:40:15] 	orzel: maybe it's an extension? let me look. what version of mediawiki?
[19:40:26] 	i thought it should be in 1.10. but maybe it isn't
[19:40:53] 	orzel: it's an extension
[19:40:58] 	it's not on 1.11 neithe
[19:41:00] 	r
[19:41:05] 	Duesentrieb: mm, ok :/
[19:41:13] 	grab a bundle
[19:41:14] 	!bundle
[19:41:14] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "bundle". You might try: !bundles !xampp 
[19:41:18] 	!bundles
[19:41:18] --mwbot--	unofficial bundles of extensions are at . Note that these are random snapshots and may contain a completely broken version of the extension.
[19:41:21] 	bah
[19:41:23] 	i'm not admin on this wiki, only writers.....
[19:41:38] 	orzel: ask the wiki's owner then.
[19:42:23] 	hasn't answered for days, and this one is urgent. Ok, i'll see, thanks for pointing this out.
[19:48:07] 	AzaTht: Why's that commit bad?
[19:51:32] 	allo
[19:51:40] 	allo
[19:51:42] 	the md5 stuff
[19:51:45] 	RoanKattouw: 
[19:52:03] 	The commit you pointed out was a different one
[19:52:06] 	append/prependtext
[19:52:24] 	it require you to have the content to calculate md5 to append/prepend
[19:52:37] 	That's true, I was thinking about that too
[19:52:49] 	Maybe we should do md5($append . $prepend) there
[19:52:54] 	yea
[19:54:00] 	and I really want the prependsection ツ
[19:54:13] 	...
[19:54:29] 	I know it could be difficult
[19:54:31] 	I thought people would request it
[19:54:43] 	I did
[19:54:46] 	It's just that I didn't have much time, so I kept it simple
[19:54:46] 	my net speed is incredible
[19:54:52] 	incredibly slow that is T_T
[19:54:54] 	i know
[19:55:12] 	RoanKattouw: that's why I posted an rfa instead of poking you ツ
[19:55:34] 	Did you file that bug then?
[19:55:39] 	yes
[19:55:46] 	Hmm, didn't even notice
[19:55:52] 	hehe
[19:55:55] 	I guess I'm not used to it ;)
[19:55:59] 	:-P
[19:56:05] 	I want to add stuff to the edit toolbox on my wiki
[19:56:09] 	how is that possible?
[19:56:18] 	!toolbox
[19:56:18] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "toolbox".
[19:56:23] 	!edit
[19:56:23] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "edit". You might try: !bom !captcha !charinsert !checkuser !cms !config !credit !deleteuser !editbuttons !editing !exclamation !protect !sandbox !sidebar !syntax !undo !userapproval !wiki !wikipedia !wysiwyg 
[19:56:24] 	Dor: no one knows
[19:56:36] 	!editbuttons
[19:56:36] --mwbot--	See , also have a look at 
[19:56:37] 	!editbuttons
[19:56:37] --mwbot--	See , also have a look at 
[19:56:40] 	:P
[19:56:46] 	seems like mwbot knows
[19:57:06] 	!alias toolbox to editbuttons
[19:57:06] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "alias".
[19:57:26] 	!toolbox alias editbuttons
[19:57:26] --mwbot--	Successfully added alias: toolbox
[19:58:13] 	that's a pretty crappy syntax
[19:58:21] 	flyingparchment: agree
[20:00:15] 	03catrope * r36306 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiEditPage.php: API: action=edit: Make the combination of prepend/appendtext and md5 do something useful. See also mailing list
[20:03:50] 	RoanKattouw: about the edit api, why isn't captcha request an error signal?
[20:03:59] 	I believe it is
[20:04:13] 	
[20:04:23] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Edit_-_Create%26Edit_pages#CAPTCHAs_and_extension_errors
[20:04:25] 	yea
[20:04:31] 	But it's not a traditional error because it passes along more parameters
[20:04:35] 	03(mod) {{int:X}} respects user-defined interface language, breaking link tables etc. (aka {{USERIFCODE}} strikes back) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14404  (10brad9626)
[20:04:39] 	Like the CAPTCHA ID and URL
[20:04:39] 	but it's not an 
[20:04:46] 	True
[20:04:49] 	RoanKattouw: did you see the SQL injection in API?
[20:05:03] 	flyingparchment: Yeah. I believe that was my mistake when I rewrote backlinks
[20:05:13] 	RoanKattouw: why don't you use our SQL API?
[20:05:16] 	I guess I was wrong in assuming that a DB key was safe to use
[20:05:23] 	flyingparchment: I should be, lemme see
[20:05:31] 	RoanKattouw: also for moves: NOTE: If moving the page itself succeeded, but moving the talk page failed, the relevant error will be returned in the talkmove-error-code and talkmove-error-info fields.
[20:05:43] 	AzaTht: Yeah, what
[20:05:45] 	if only PHP mysql support prepared statements
[20:05:48] 	's wrong with that?
[20:05:51] 	oh wait it does but not if you use shitty 4.0
[20:05:53] 	I don't link to have to check for aditional fields
[20:06:05] 	flyingparchment, in this case, a bunch of conditions were being OR'd, so there was no alternative in our SQL API to concatenating strings to make the condition.
[20:06:07] 	especially when I want to generalize the error checking facillity
[20:06:46] 	flyingparchment, also, don't prepared statements have to be re-prepared on every new connection?  It's an extra round-trip per query, more or less.
[20:06:47] 	It doesn't work for me
[20:06:48] 	Wait a minute, that should use LinkBatch
[20:07:01] 	I copied the code there
[20:07:05] 	Simetrical: yes, that's another problem with php
[20:07:10] 	and it doesn't work :|
[20:07:12] 	!toolbox
[20:07:12] --mwbot--	See , also have a look at 
[20:07:19] 	RoanKattouw: also, most of the possible error in mw.org specifies token
[20:07:19] 	this one ^
[20:07:21] 	flyingparchment: I don't recognize that code, must be Yuri's, but it's stupid
[20:07:33] 	flyingparchment, with PHP or MySQL?  Can prepared statements persist across sessions?
[20:07:37] 	AzaTht: Token? You mean the code element?
[20:07:42] 	Simetrical: not if they're implemented server-side
[20:07:54] 	http://rafb.net/p/tA1img68.html
[20:07:54] 	yea
[20:07:56] 	and PHP doesn't support faking them at all
[20:07:56] 	You mean "web server-side" or "SQL server-side"?
[20:08:06] 	which is why they only work in MySQL that supports them
[20:08:13] 	Simetrical: web server
[20:08:21] 	flyingparchment: I'll fix that code to use the LinkBatch methods that we have for this kind of thing
[20:09:19] 	RoanKattouw: the info attribute in errors, are they parseable? i.e. static always
[20:09:37] 	Java of course supports prepared statements in mysql back to 3.something
[20:09:38] 	flyingparchment: Strike that. This is a special case, because we're dealing with three different tables, one of which doesn't contain the namespace field
[20:09:52] 	because it has a standard database API that can fake features not provided by shitty servers
[20:09:55] 	anyone knows what doesn't the "add buttons to toolbar" works for me? :PPPP
[20:10:01] 	why*
[20:10:04] 	AzaTht: See the docs. Some are static, others have one variable element, as in "Some error occurred with page ``foo''"
[20:10:07] 	http://rafb.net/p/tA1img68.html
[20:10:19] 	RoanKattouw: and a last one, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvtoken=rollback&titles=Main%20Page&rvlimit=10 specifies multiple rollbacktokens
[20:10:29] 	can any be used for rollback, or only the latest?
[20:10:48] 	RoanKattouw: k
[20:10:56] 	AzaTht: Are those tokens all different? I don't have rollback rights @ en
[20:11:07] 	T_T
[20:11:09] 	RoanKattouw: almost
[20:11:17] 	almost different? :)
[20:11:21] 	the three MZMcBride ones have the same token
[20:11:28] 	Ahhh....
[20:11:29] 	I understand
[20:12:00] 	if I can choose revision group to rollback to, that would be gold ツ
[20:12:23] 	if not, then why is the tokens there?
[20:12:24] 	AzaTht: Yes, but as of now that's not implemented yet
[20:12:36] 	AzaTht: Because you might not be requesting the top revision
[20:12:36] 	k
[20:13:01] 	true
[20:13:19] 	I actually wrote some code that uses this 'feature': you can get rollback tokens for any revision, even non-rollbackable ones, and they'll work provided the rev was made by the same user as the top rev
[20:13:55] 	HELLO
[20:14:00] 	http://rafb.net/p/Nv1z2465.html
[20:14:05] 	could anyone help? :P
[20:14:17] 	I put this on mediawiki:commonscript.js
[20:14:21] 	and it doesn't work
[20:14:57] 	Dor: What do you mean it doesn't work? Does the button appear at all, or does it appear wrongly?
[20:15:13] 	no
[20:15:16] 	it does not appear
[20:15:37] 	Dor: Shouldn't it go into MediaWiki:Common.js ?
[20:15:57] 	RoanKattouw, yeah
[20:15:57] 	Hi everyone, I can find lots of information about converting data from CSV into wikitable format but does anyone know of a program to convert wikitable into CSV, or any other format?
[20:16:01] 	it's there
[20:16:20] 	ohhhh
[20:16:25] 	needed to clear the ceche
[20:16:34] 	...
[20:16:34] 	cache*
[20:16:37] 	now it works
[20:16:38] 	:D 
[20:16:44] 	Number one advice when working with scripts and skins
[20:16:59] 	Ctrl+Shift+R is your best friend
[20:17:00] 	XD
[20:17:16] 	Ctrl+Shift+R? What browser is that?
[20:17:20] 	FF
[20:17:24] 	^^
[20:17:27] 	I think Ctrl+F5 works as well
[20:17:30] 	I always use Ctrl+F5
[20:18:07] 	so wait
[20:18:08] 	now
[20:18:13] 	all users who already entered the site
[20:18:21] 	will have to clear their cache to see the new buttons?
[20:18:34] 	Yeah
[20:18:39] 	RoanKattouw: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=categoryinfo&titles=Category:1911%20Britannica%20articles%20needing%20updates
[20:18:50] 	perhaps it should show that the cat is "hidden"
[20:18:52] 	bahh
[20:18:54] 	oh well
[20:18:55] 	:P
[20:19:00] 	and to add more buttons
[20:19:05] 	all I need is to change the name of the var
[20:19:07] 	AzaTht: Is that information stored in the category table?
[20:19:29] 	and add more mwcustomeditbuttons functions
[20:19:31] 	right?
[20:19:34] 	RoanKattouw: dunno exactly how it's stored
[20:19:36] 	Yeah
[20:20:20] 	RoanKattouw: and, yea, some more bells and whistles please ツ
[20:20:58] 	03(mod) New magic word for number of total views - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13701  (10jlerner)
[20:21:13] 	AzaTht: It's in there. What's with the bells and whistles?
[20:21:27] 	just joking ツ
[20:21:59] 	back to errors: protectedtitle should have the info changed to be "you have no permission to bla bla bla"
[20:22:16] 	and I still can't find the "nocreate" flag
[20:22:26] 	one recreate and createonly
[20:22:28] 	only*
[20:22:43] 	for edit
[20:23:09] 	Hold on a minute, I'm in the middle of cat_hidden
[20:23:21] 	hehe
[20:23:38] 	you are here so not often
[20:23:53] 	have to dump the memory core while you are here
[20:24:20] 	Hidden categories are a 1.13 feature right?
[20:24:29] 	think so
[20:24:52] 	Hmm no, 1.12
[20:25:01] 	Too bad, now I have to go and change RELEASE-NOTES too
[20:25:22] 	and yea list=allcategories perhaps should be able to filter on hiddencats
[20:25:29] 	Good idea
[20:25:46] 	though perhaps that not 100% needed
[20:26:00] 	as they end up in Category:Hidden categories it seems
[20:26:20] 	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Hidden_categories
[20:29:02] 	03catrope * r36307 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): API: Adding 'hidden' field to list=allcategories and prop=categoryinfo output
[20:29:35] 	AzaTht: cat_hidden isn't indexed, so forget about the second one
[20:29:42] 	k
[20:29:49] <^demon>	Wahoo, release-notes conflict....
[20:29:56] 	hehe
[20:30:03] 	Yeah, me too
[20:30:05] 	I hate those
[20:30:14] 	Although I usually escape them because API changes are separated
[20:31:05] 	03demon * r36308 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Skin.php includes/SkinTemplate.php): (bug 2889) MediaWiki:Print.css now applies to the printable version
[20:31:40] 	03(FIXED) Print stylesheet should be explicitly editable (e.g. MediaWiki: Print.css) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2889  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[20:37:41] 	03catrope * r36309 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): API: Add nocreate parameter to action=edit
[20:42:16] 	03(mod) LivePreview breaks User CSS/JS previews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3421  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[20:42:25] 	14(DUP) LivePreview does not render CSS or JavaScript pages correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14486  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[20:52:56] 	question how difficult would it be to allow watchlists to have a log namespace filter
[20:55:19] <^demon|away>	Betacommand: Theoretically not hard, the watchlist table has a namespace column.
[20:55:43] 	^demon|away: we filter for everything else
[20:55:53] 	and logs now appear in watchlists
[20:56:03] <^demon|away>	Hmmmm, dunno.
[20:56:20] 	03nikerabbit * r36310 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ffs/Simple.php: * Fix a parsing bug
[20:56:49] 	03nikerabbit * r36311 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ffs/Gettext.php: * Working on plural support
[20:56:58] <^demon|away>	Betacommand: The namespace filter on watchlists filters both article and logs.
[20:57:25] <^demon|away>	Sorting by WP_T removed all of the WP log entries on my watchlist.
[20:57:46] 	any easy way to determine when a given function was added to a class (User.php)?
[20:57:50] 	^demon|away: I mean to show only log changes
[20:57:51] 	03nikerabbit * r36312 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (README groupStatistics.php): * new options to groupStatistics.php: --fuzzy and --skipzero
[20:57:51] 	i don't see it mentioned in release notes
[20:57:59] 	or in the cvs mailing list...
[20:58:15] 	getEffectiveGroups() ..
[20:58:25] 	^demon|away: not only those logs that pertain to certain namespaces
[20:58:38] <^demon|away>	Betacommand: Ah, I gotcha. I dunno :(
[20:58:53] 	^demon|away: IE just slow logs
[20:59:32] <^demon|away>	Betacommand: I would think it wouldn't be *too* hard.
[20:59:52] 	^demon|away: it *should* be very easy
[21:00:03] 	but I dont read php
[21:00:41] 	I have to run see ya all in a few days
[21:26:28] 	03siebrand * r36313 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (50 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-06-15 23:18 CEST)
[21:32:19] 	03siebrand * r36314 10/trunk/extensions/ (76 files in 71 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-06-15 23:18 CEST)
[21:34:29] 	does anyone here understand about gpl v2 and gplv3 differences. is there any reason i should not just use gpl v2 ?
[21:35:49] 	03siebrand * r36315 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesLb.php MessagesNl.php MessagesSv.php): Localisation updates from Betawiki. Special pages names updates
[21:41:14] 	03(NEW) Cannot substitute templates withing  tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14550 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Templates; (legoktm.wikipedia)
[21:42:55] 	03(NEW) "Cancel upload" on Special:Upload shouldn't check " ignore any warnings" button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14551 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (rockmfr)
[21:44:30] 	03(mod) Cannot substitute templates withing  tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14550  (10legoktm.wikipedia)
[21:51:23] 	is there any way to see the code a template expands into given certain arguments?
[21:55:00] 	Higdur_: there's an extension that does that. uh...
[21:55:42] 	Higdur_: Special:ExpandTemplates 
[21:55:45] 	try it on wikipedia
[21:58:43] 	03(mod) "Cancel upload" on Special:Upload shouldn't check " ignore any warnings" button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14551  (10rockmfr)
[21:59:17] 	03(mod) "Cancel upload" on Special:Upload shouldn't check " ignore any warnings" button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14551   +need-review +patch (10rockmfr)
[22:18:53] 	03ialex * r36316 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): svn:eol-style native
[22:42:43] 	thanks Duesentrieb 
[22:42:54] 	I don't get it though
[22:43:13] 	I have copied the Template:Click off wikipedia
[22:43:45] 	that thin sucks, use the Icon extension :)
[22:43:51] 	anyway, off to bed
[22:44:00] 	when I use it on my own site it says : must specify an image in the first line
[22:44:21] 	you are missing the imagemap extension
[22:44:25] 	but when I expand it in the expand template thing
[22:44:28] 	no
[22:44:31] 	but as i said, use the icon extension instead. much nicer
[22:44:53] 	and copy the code generated in the wikipedia expander, it works
[22:45:01] 	I'll check it out
[22:45:24] 	just odd anyway
[23:16:34] 	Duesentrieb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEE#Election_controversy
[23:26:45] 	got my vote !