',
[09:06:51] 	Splarka: so basically. i need a) query api to see if image already exists. if it does , then make sure the user wants to force an overwrite. set the ignore warning flag and submit
[09:06:58] 	you are right.. not too bad ;-)
[09:07:12] 	heh
[09:07:19] 	well, yes, most other warnings can be ignored
[09:07:29] 	and if it fails fatally, then it wouldn'ta worked anyways
[09:07:50] 	tautology for the win, which is the same as saying the same thing twice, just like this.
[09:09:33] 	:)
[09:11:32] 	alnokta2: sure it works
[09:12:37] 	Nikerabbit, http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=wikipedia:en:template:poem
[09:12:50] 	T_T
[09:12:55] 	why won't it work this time?
[09:13:26] 	http://rafb.net/p/WnkrYr13.html
[09:13:30] 	none of the buttons appear
[09:13:40] 	Splarka :(
[09:14:12] 	Dor: maybe a silly quesiton, but are you trying it on an edit page?
[09:14:29] 	trying to see the buttons?
[09:14:31] 	ofc I am
[09:14:39] 	I see all the regular ones
[09:14:41] 	and not these
[09:16:53] 	alnokta2: nope, wikipedia isn't interlanguage link, it's interwiki there
[09:17:47] 	dor: works for me
[09:17:53] 	where do you have these buttons?
[09:18:09] 	monobook.js, common.js?
[09:18:23] 	common.js
[09:18:38] 	what version of mediawiki?
[09:18:40] 	which character is used to escape in js?
[09:19:15] 	1.12.0
[09:19:32] 	03(mod) Permission error message for editing MediaWiki namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14246  +comment (10Andrew)
[09:19:49] 	\
[09:20:14] 	alert('this is a literal single quote mark: \' there it was, did you enjoy it?');
[09:20:58] 	\
[09:21:00] 	okay
[09:21:04] 	hmm http://database-programmer.blogspot.com/2008/06/why-i-do-not-use-orm.html
[09:21:08] 	do / need escaping?
[09:21:11] 	does*
[09:21:23] 	Only in regex with /
[09:21:30] 	but not in JS
[09:21:35] 	But \\ does need it
[09:21:44] 	Actually... I'm talking about the regex in js
[09:21:56] 	string.replace( /regex/, 'replacement' );
[09:22:46] 	dor: check your js error console of whatever browser you're using, you may have other probs
[09:23:24] 	I'm using firefox
[09:24:29] 	chrome://global/content/console.xul
[09:24:34] 	wtf
[09:24:40] 	now none of the buttons appear
[09:24:41] 	if I knew what ORM was, I would understand, Nikerabbit 
[09:25:01] 	probably you've broken JS so much the whole site's JS fails ^_^
[09:25:20] 	but paste that chrome URL into your browser (usually can't be clicked)
[09:25:27] 	Werdna: it is explained in the article
[09:25:46] 	yeah
[09:25:52] 	mIRC don't know this prefix
[09:26:02] 	maybe I found the prob
[09:26:03] 	sec
[09:27:17] 	after fixing a ' " issue, only the first 2 appear
[09:27:22] 	comment and redirect
[09:28:30] 	        'tagOpen': '
',
[09:28:30] 	        'tagClose': '',
[09:28:30] 	        'sampleText': ''
[09:28:34] 	this is the third one
[09:28:43] 	picture and tip are ok
[09:28:57] 	maybe this causes the rest not to work?
[09:29:36] 	dunno, works for me changing all " to ', except the two in the 
[09:29:44] 	seems like it
[09:29:59] 	how does your br look?
[09:30:02] 	the third butto
[09:30:03] 	n
[09:30:14] 	how does it look in the script?
[09:30:42] 	http://p.defau.lt/?sdZ5j9B4fuU0nQ8OSMVYsg
[09:31:37] 	it's exactly the same
[09:31:40] 	and it doesn't work
[09:31:52] 	let's try to copy yours
[09:32:14] 	any JS errors?
[09:32:32] 	nope
[09:33:29] 	well what do you know
[09:33:35] 	your worked and mine didn't
[09:33:38] 	can i make a link that when you click it, it opens a new section in a page with preadded text?
[09:33:38] 	let's see the differences
[09:33:56] 	alnokta2, in the edit box?
[09:34:20] 	Dor, in a page (add new request)
[09:34:37] 	oh
[09:35:32] 	alnokta2: you can use &preload ...
[09:36:24] 	Splarka, how ? 
[09:36:58] 	Splarka, lol, with your code, redirect appears twice, and strike doesn't appear at all
[09:37:12] 	oh, there is some extra code in there
[09:37:17] 	just delete the top redirect bit
[09:37:29] 	oop, wait, no, not in the version I sent you
[09:37:35] 	probably both bits of code are running at the same time
[09:37:46] 	Splarka, 
[09:37:57] 	alnokta2 http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo?action=edit§ion=new&preload=Template:Preloadtest
[09:38:02] 	patience
[09:38:02] 	Error: enableWikiaWriter is not definedSource File: http://he.mirc.wikia.com/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94_%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99:Common.jsLine: 514
[09:38:19] 	blame #wikia for their JS errors
[09:38:20] 	Splarka, :)
[09:38:36] 	preload lets you load a template into the edit box
[09:38:40] 	but it only works on new pages or new sections
[09:39:02] 	and the only parsing done on the template's text is the removal if 
[09:39:10] 	exactly what i want thanks Splarka 
[09:39:18] 	so if you have {{subst:FULLPAGENAME}} this becomes  {{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}
[09:39:25] 	so that when the user saves it substs' in the page name
[09:39:31] 	this is useful for dates, or signatures, etc
[09:39:43] 	there
[09:39:46] 	now it works :D
[09:39:48] 	but works too with plain text , right?
[09:39:57] 	thanks a lot for your help Splarka
[09:40:05] 	noprob
[09:40:06] 	yes, it does
[09:40:31] 	and now
[09:40:33] 	math time T_T
[09:44:18] 	hello everyone
[09:44:21] 	got a question
[09:44:37] 	what is SiteStats.php for?
[09:50:12] 	Splarka, it cannot add subsections to a section? 
[09:50:52] 	nope, only new sections to a page (which are ==H2== level) via section=new
[09:51:09] 	so it could add new sections to a subsection if you had an =H1= on the page
[09:51:22] 	but only at the end
[09:54:25] 	Splarka, ah what to change then ?
[09:54:37] 	03jojo * r36323 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: removed duplicate & debugging code
[09:55:24] 	what do you mean change? it does what it does
[09:55:36] 	change your needs to adapt to reality ^_^
[09:56:04] 	no i mean new == == inside -= =
[09:57:09] 	well, not "inside"
[09:57:32] 	but if you have H1's on a page like =Foo= and =Bar=
[09:57:42] 	section=new will add new sections as subsections of the last one on the page
[10:06:21] 	Splarka, what about preloading a section title ?
[10:06:47] 	I don't think that is possible, but check the inputbox extension maybe
[10:06:57] 	you could of course resort to javascript for that
[10:07:24] *Splarka 	tests something
[10:07:56] 	nope, &wpSummary doesn't work on edit via GET
[10:09:06] 	Hey
[10:10:43] 	Splarka: ;) Careful with that one if you get into sessions... some of us are plotting to add a new wpSummary to section editing and turn the section title into an actual section title instead of summary
[10:11:17] 	sofixit
[10:11:21] 	it is very silly as-is
[10:11:27] 	Oooooohhhh!!!
[10:11:35] 	I just had a perfect idea for the title rewrite
[10:11:40] 	uh oh
[10:11:45] 	heh
[10:11:52] 	A real wpTitle field
[10:11:55] 	Dantman: get Artur to open up Wikia's SVN first ;-)
[10:11:57] 	wel, you could have /* take the title from here */ igonore this
[10:11:57] 	also, hi
[10:12:10] 	When in sections it is used for the section title as planned
[10:12:11] 	nice and annoying but backward compatty
[10:12:24] 	^_^ And when editing a page normally... it can edit the display form of the title
[10:12:56] 	well, you could just move the ==Section== to it, yah
[10:12:56] 	That should be far cleaner than telling people to open up the movepage form to make minor corrections to a title
[10:13:18] 	Hmmm
[10:13:28] 	(but it would have to either have the ==crap== which would break backlogic, or an h1-h8 radio button array)
[10:13:40] 	though, it'll have to normalize to the same title
[10:13:44] 	if it ain't too broke, don't fix it too much
[10:13:55] 	heh
[10:14:01] 	then you'd need an md5 for wpTitle
[10:14:03] 	bah!
[10:14:16] 	huh?
[10:14:45] 	hellou guys
[10:15:04] 	did you know wpSummary has an associated md5? in wpAutoSummary
[10:15:15] 	03jojo * r36324 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (4 files): undo changes made in 36258 and 36260 regarding help page handling
[10:15:26] 	Believe that has a completely different purpose
[10:15:28] 	for people who choose to have the system remind them to always enter a summary, makes sure they;ve changed it
[10:15:29] 	sure
[10:15:33] 	ya
[10:15:34] 	but it can serve the same purpose
[10:15:41] 	Eh?
[10:15:41] 	you can check to make sure they *haven't* changed the title
[10:15:49] 	in cases where they maybe shouldn't have
[10:15:55] 	it could be the post-normalization hash too
[10:15:57] 	oh, I see, ok
[10:16:06] 	[x] are you sure you wanted to change the title?
[10:16:07] 	blah blah
[10:16:13] *Splarka 	shrugs
[10:16:15] 	brb
[10:17:20] 	Also, we'll likely use something like what's on Special:Upload to query the API and verify that a typed in title does match the normal title and give the user a signal that it doesn't
[10:19:25] 	However the state of the branch is quite ugly
[10:21:28] 	where should the main CSS file be?
[10:21:32] 	I wanna add new classes
[10:25:15] 	Nice to see the regulars on
[10:25:32] 	Dor: edit a page on the wiki titled [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]
[10:28:31] 	Hi there! I am having trouble setting up the language template, can someone please take a look at what I am doing wrong? http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Template:Languages all the #if statements are showing where they should be invisible :-(
[10:29:58] 	milovanderlinden: did you install ParserFunctions extension?
[10:30:10] 	no he did not
[10:30:10] 	Mmm, I guess not..
[10:30:20] 	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions
[10:30:22] 	Hey all
[10:30:23] 	Is that the extension that hides the #if
[10:30:26] 	got a question
[10:30:46] 	it's the extension that understands the #if
[10:30:58] 	things mediawiki doesn't understand, it shows literal
[10:31:00] 	does anyone have a \vfague idea how to get SUL working?
[10:31:30] 	Is there a language bar available where no parser functions are used? to simply display all languages. even if there is non-existing?
[10:32:15] 	not that i kno of
[10:32:27] 	you mean, link to the language code subpages of all languages of a given page?
[10:32:33] 	yes
[10:32:49] 	you could make one I suppose
[10:33:05] 	Yes, I will then, hunt out all the bracets
[10:33:16] 	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/Names.php?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain
[10:34:23] 	Splarka: got the upload working thanks ;-)
[10:34:56] 	I did nofing!
[10:35:06] 	hints and tips innit
[10:35:08] 	:)
[10:35:45] 	SUL
[10:35:50] 	has anyone setup SUL before?
[10:36:15] 	milovanderlinden: http://p.defau.lt/?gPO9Xhe4iV1gyRnadgbLkg
[10:36:28] 	Prom3th3an: you intsalled CentralAuth?
[10:37:58] 	give me two secs
[10:39:25] 	yes
[10:39:26] 	i have
[10:39:56] 	im getting an internal server error
[10:40:06] 	what error?
[10:40:08] 	how to add link to page with all my categories ? I now how to add link to side panel but don't know how to link on page with all categories
[10:40:20] 	i just installed it (central auth)
[10:40:25] 	im getting error 500
[10:40:31] 	on the web server
[10:40:45] 	Most likely causes:
[10:40:46] 	The website is under maintenance. 
[10:40:48] 	The website has a programming error. 
[10:41:14] 	Prom3th3an: you need to configure $wgConf to use this extension
[10:41:26] 	Rajec: [[:Category:Foo]] lets you link inline
[10:41:32] 	or you can link to [[Special:Categories]]
[10:42:08] 	Splarka: I would rather something like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Top_level
[10:42:09] 	ok
[10:42:21] 	03(mod) Filters on Special:Ipblocklist by blocktype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4391  (10maxsem.wiki)
[10:42:58] 	Rajec: basically you categorize all your categories
[10:43:17] 	Splarka: ?
[10:43:31] 	you can categorize pages in mediawiki, right?
[10:43:36] 	I just looked up the usage on $wgConf and im so confused :S
[10:43:40] 	you can do the same for categories, that is what http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Top_level is the end result of
[10:44:01] 	so say you have page named [[Siamese cat]], and you have [[Category:Cats]] on it
[10:44:48] 	Splarka: yeah continue..
[10:44:49] 	well, in the page named Category:Cats you put in [[Category:Animals]], and on that page you put in [[Category:Biology]] and on that you put in [[Category:Sciences]] and in that page you put in [[Category:Top level]]
[10:44:59] 	then in top level you can navigate down to that
[10:45:06] 	all categories are pretty much manually created in mediawiki
[10:45:22] 	(there are some automation tools like templates and bots that most big ones use though)
[10:45:29] 	Sparkla: Many thanks for your tips. I now have simple language support without the extension!
[10:45:39] 	03jojo * r36325 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: replace addWikiMsg( ... ) with addWikiText( wfMsgNoTrans( ... ) ) to support MediaWiki 1.11
[10:45:39] 	Hey umm, would anyone like to setup central auth for me via FTP?
[10:45:41] 	milovanderlinden: had an idea..
[10:46:10] 	03(mod) Chinese Wikipedia articles statistics error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14553  +comment (10pokok20030815)
[10:46:17] 	using the names from Names.php you could also pipe link them, like: http://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Splarka/sand&oldid=60544&action=edit
[10:46:30] 	[[/wo|Wolof]]
[10:46:47] 	(only problem is, in that experiment, many names are encoded for php and that doesn't look too pretty in html)
[10:47:17] 	Sparkla: Thanks for your suggestions, but I do not have php access to the wiki. It is maintained by someone else. But I did copy your comments and will put them in to the committee
[10:47:37] 	well, you don't need php access
[10:47:41] 	you can just copy it and make a template
[11:06:00] 	milovanderlinden: here is an example of the same code above, but with all languages named: http://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Sublang_all&action=edit
[11:06:15] 	(converted the directional unicode to HTML entities)
[11:08:33] 	Thank you Splarka, for now my question is well answered! Thank you for your time!
[11:08:43] 	rar
[11:09:53] 	gotta wonder how https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1066 is coming along...or isn't, heh
[11:18:08] 	Hi there
[11:18:39] 	hi
[11:18:52] 	Is it possible to modify only the main page content? (Maybe in the skin?)
[11:19:10] 	be more specific please
[11:19:17] 	edit Main_Page ?
[11:19:25] 	I want to add some html to the main page
[11:19:38] 	But it's a form so it can't be done editing the page
[11:19:38] 	in the main content area? you can just edit it
[11:20:02] 	ok... why didnt you say "i want to add a form to the main page" first! :)
[11:20:16] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Simple_Forms
[11:20:26] 	thanks, let me see
[11:20:29] 	maybe ?
[11:20:38] 	i just typed "forms mediawiki" on google.
[11:21:26] 	I was searching for editing main page using the skin
[11:25:12] 	rather than searching for what you wanted to do. logical! ;-)
[11:25:53] 	I think this extension could solve my problem, thanks ;)
[11:26:00] 	np
[11:39:26] 	where should the general .css file be?
[11:39:32] 	I want to add new classes
[11:39:41] 	does anyone know?
[11:39:49] 	Dor: MediaWiki:Common.css
[11:40:19] 	thanks
[11:43:54] 	What access rights would you need to alter the media wiki namespace
[11:44:25] 	'editinterface'
[11:44:33] 	default to sysop/crat
[11:45:44] 	Only sysop
[11:47:12] 	ahh, but a crat can by default sysop themselves
[11:47:17] 	> default to sysop/crat stands
[11:47:36] 	Splarka: No, it just so happens that virtually every bureaucrat is a sysop too
[11:47:50] 	Look at DefaultSettings.php: bureaucrats just have userrights rights, not much else
[11:48:01] 	...
[11:48:10] 	yes, and with it they can make themselves a sysop if they are not already
[11:48:21] 	meaning they can, with one extra step, acquire the edit interface group
[11:48:22] 	Oh right I forgot about that xD
[11:48:37] *Splarka 	adds smaxage to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_index.php
[12:00:23] 	hello guys, when I export from one mediawiki system (eg: en Wikipedia), and want to import to another mediawiki system (eg: ar WikiSOURCE), do I need to change the namespaces..etc.., or remove them? or just keep them?
[12:05:34] 	anubis, i don't understand your question exactly
[12:06:03] 	LordAnubis: What do you mean with namespaces in this regard?
[12:07:04] 	on the face of it, your question is really weird, since you should probably not be exporting entire pages from WP and importing them into wikisource
[12:07:40] 	offhand, though, if you do have such a need, i suggest you just do it straight across, ignoring any namespace issue
[12:07:56] 	and if on the target wiki, you think the namespace should be changed, do a move there
[12:08:13] 	you could even delete the automatically generated redirect if you wanted
[12:08:29] 	03(NEW) Codefix for this extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14555 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Contributors; (mick)
[12:08:30] 	i wouldn't monkey with the export file
[12:09:12] 	i just had a sudden, maddenning urge for a large bag of greasy french fries
[12:09:16] 	03(mod) Codefix for this extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14555  (10mick)
[12:10:38] 	03(mod) Codefix for this extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14555  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[12:11:07] 	03(mod) Codefix for this extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14555  (10roan.kattouw)
[12:12:18] 	03(ASSIGNED) Codefix for extension DocumentApproval - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14555  summary (10mick)
[12:13:00] 	roan, are you on line?
[12:13:16] *Nomad9941 	is Mick
[12:14:41] 	03(NEW) Technical opt-out for global groups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14556 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (millosh)
[12:15:47] 	03(mod) SQL Error on Type Namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14543  (10dasch_87)
[12:19:10] 	03(mod) Codefix for extension DocumentApproval - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14555  (10mick)
[12:20:05] 	03(mod) Codefix for extension DocumentApproval - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14555  (10roan.kattouw)
[12:30:47] 	03jojo * r36326 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: remove (erronous) wfDebug() call
[12:35:12] 	03jojo * r36327 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: prevent "Undefined property" errors
[12:42:20] 	03jojo * r36328 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: replace wfExpandUrl() which is not available in MediaWiki 1.11
[12:49:31] *djevrek 	off
[12:52:15] 	03kim * r36329 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/voctrain/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 
[12:52:15] 	* Implement hiding (Item 5 on martin mai's list)
[12:52:15] 	There are some things that are trickier than I would have thought.
[12:52:15] 	Probably time to refactor mercilessly
[12:55:12] 	03kim * r36330 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/voctrain/ (util.php vocview.php): Forgot these 2 new files.
[12:56:28] 	anyone know what tool tim is using to do this vulnerability scanning?  http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=36279
[12:56:48] 	mib_kmj0r2, he just checked it into SVN recently, look at his recent commits.
[12:57:16] 	thanks
[13:02:22] <^demon>	mib_kmj0r2: Take a look at http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/tools/rg-vuln-check/
[13:02:27] 	03(NEW) Confusion with images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14557 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken)
[13:05:16] 	it's possible to make one's own installation of MediaWiki totally moderated, yes?
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[13:15:22] 	03(mod) Codefix for extension DocumentApproval - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14555  (10mick)
[13:15:35] 	03(mod) Codefix for extension DocumentApproval - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14555  (10mick)
[13:15:43] 	03(mod) Codefix for extension DocumentApproval - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14555  (10mick)
[13:15:55] 	03(mod) Codefix for extension DocumentApproval - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14555  (10mick)
[13:16:29] 	03leogregianin * r36331 10/trunk/tools/planet/pt/config.ini: fix Rei-Artur url
[13:16:48] 	03(mod) Codefix for extension DocumentApproval - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14555  (10mick)
[13:19:18] 	03(mod) Codefix for extension DocumentApproval - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14555  normal->15enhancement (10raimond.spekking)
[13:19:50] 	03(mod) Codefix for extension DocumentApproval - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14555  (10raimond.spekking)
[13:20:55] 	03(mod) Add translation for "UTC" in signatures for Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14452   +shell (10mohamed.m.k)
[13:21:04] 	03(mod) Codefix for extension DocumentApproval - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14555  (10raimond.spekking)
[13:21:29] 	03(mod) Codefix for extension DocumentApproval - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14555  (10raimond.spekking)
[13:24:45] 	03(NEW) Email user: disclaimer/footnote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14558 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Email; (FT2.wiki)
[13:26:23] 	03(mod) Technical opt-out for global groups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14556  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[13:27:06] 	O_O
[13:27:17] 	03(mod) Email user: disclaimer/footnote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14558  +comment (10FT2.wiki)
[13:28:52] 	03(NEW) corrected PostgreSQL script for FlaggedRevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14559 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (mick)
[13:32:03] 	03(mod) Technical opt-out for global groups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14556  +comment (10Andrew)
[13:36:20] 	03(mod) Technical opt-out for global groups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14556  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[13:38:14] 	Anyone around?
[13:39:24] 	03(mod) Technical opt-out for global groups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14556  (10millosh)
[13:39:56] 	04(REOPENED) Option to remove log entries from watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14552  +comment (10charlottethewebb)
[13:41:10] <^demon>	!ask | Iconoclast
[13:41:10] --mwbot--	Iconoclast: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC.
[13:46:27] 	i am asking about the suppressredircts right
[13:46:40] 	how bots can use it
[13:46:42] 	?
[13:48:23] 	03(mod) Option to delete all subpages when deleting a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13491  +comment (10robin_1273)
[13:48:51] 	FiloSottile, through the API.
[13:49:23] 	03(mod) Option to delete all subpages when deleting a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13491  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[13:50:00] 	Simetrical: ahn, sure, and whath parametr should they use
[13:50:07] 	*what
[13:57:30] 	anyone alive in here?  I've got a problem I'm trying to pin down and there aren't any docs on it :(
[13:57:53] <^demon>	!ask | devnet
[13:57:53] --mwbot--	devnet: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC.
[13:58:01] 	lol
[13:58:14] *devnet 	is old hand at irc help channels...what the question should have been is
[13:58:31] 	is this the correct place to go? (or is there another irc channel I should go to like mediawiki-help, etc.)
[13:59:08] <^demon>	Just ask ;-)
[13:59:27] 	FiloSottile, I don't know what parameter it is, sorry.
[14:02:03] 	03tstarling * r36332 10/trunk/tools/rg-vuln-check/rg-vuln-check.php: Try with all globals together
[14:02:08] <^demon>	devnet: Yes, this is the best blace to ask.
[14:04:51] 	Simetrical: here there is not http://it.wikipedia.org/w/api.php
[14:04:52] 	03catrope * r36333 10/trunk/extensions/Cite/Cite_body.php: (log message trimmed)
[14:04:52] 	Cite: Fix bug 11224 (finally): in some obscure cases (notably when parsing for
[14:04:52] 	an anon without edit rights), Parser::clearState() somehow got in the call path
[14:04:52] 	of Cite::ref(), clearing the Cite state in mid-parse every time. I've worked
[14:04:52] 	around this by refusing to clear state if the state indicates we're in the
[14:04:54] 	middle of parsing something, but this is probably not a proper fix as there
[14:04:56] 	seems to be something deeply evil going on in the Parser (big surprise) causing
[14:06:20] 	FiloSottile, oh, wait, the edit API needs to be enabled, and it's not.  So no, it's impossible right now, I think.
[14:06:49] 	Simetrical: i have found here http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Edit_-_Move
[14:10:41] 	03(FIXED) References are not shown to Anons when they don' t have edit permissions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11224  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[14:11:18] 	03(mod) References are not shown to Anons when they don' t have edit permissions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11224  (10roan.kattouw)
[14:16:45] 	Can you get stuff that would be displayed on the special pages via the API?
[14:18:55] 	03demon * r36334 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Article.php): Phase out the last of Article::getDB().
[14:19:47] 	03(FIXED) Article class should use Article->getDB consistently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13878  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[14:19:56] 	Simetrical: any posibillity to have following kind of code functional?
[14:20:00] 	{{#tag:source|foo|lang=java}}
[14:20:19] 	(ignore the lang and content, the nowiki tag is the relevant)
[14:21:05] 	Simetrical: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Azatoth/X23
[14:21:16] 	03(mod) Codefix for extension DocumentApproval - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14555  +comment (10dan_the_man)
[14:21:24] 	T_T I just had to make that long comment... heh
[14:21:53] 	I know Tim-away is aware of the UNIQ problem in respect of urlencode, but this is a more notable problem
[14:23:52] 	SQL Injection ahoy matey! ^_^ with a light dash of XSS to
[14:25:50] 	03jojo * r36335 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: call $wgOut->disable() for direct PDF stream
[14:26:14] 	oh right... and if you try to scale your site up to use master/slave databases... forget about it... not only does it query the database on every page to create tabs instead of caching it... ^_^ it also corupts your data for you when you try to make your wiki perform better... heh
[14:27:05] <^demon>	Dantman|FS: tl;dr?
[14:27:13] 	heh
[14:27:46] 	^_^ You can sum it up by giving it todays award for 'Worst extension programming of the day'
[14:27:50] <^demon>	I did read. I haven't seen the code personally, but it *sounds* bad based on your rather long description of the problems.
[14:27:56] 	heh
[14:29:11] 	>.< It also ignores what you have configured your database to use for charsets, and what you've configured as the settings to be added to tables for what db type
[14:29:53] 	Anyone know where the readonly message thing is in the SVN?
[14:30:01] 	^_^ And if you accidentally run the SQL file again by mistake later on... all the extension's data gets deleted unexpectedly
[14:30:03] 	*database readonly
[14:30:14] 	GlobalFunctions.php
[14:30:18] 	wfReadOnly()
[14:30:47] 	>.< Poking fun of poorly coded extensions is even more ammusing than watching anime... rotfl
[14:31:29] 	heh.. ok... time to unpause
[14:31:35] <^demon>	Reedy: Easiest way to test a bit of code that relies on wfReadOnly() is to just make it return true.
[14:31:52] 	^demon, its not that
[14:32:05] 	it's to get AWB to handle if its readonly
[14:32:12] 	instead of just thinking it saved alright
[14:32:27] 	so im after it to get a unique identifier from it
[14:33:40] 	for the WMF error page, we have like http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/debs/squid/debian/errors/error.html?view=markup
[14:34:34] 	so it'll be about somewhere, its just where
[14:35:18] <^demon>	Reedy: Sorry, can't help :(
[14:35:26] 	Ahh well :)
[14:35:48] 	All i need is where the code is that gets transcluded... or if theres a way to view it on the active wiki
[14:36:25] 	or something
[14:37:19] 	presumably, whatever wgReadOnlyFile is set as in wp?
[14:47:39] 	03(NEW) Reverts are not always flagged automatically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14560 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken)
[14:48:33] 	hello
[14:50:49] 	my ftp client crashed and blanked my LocalSettings.php file
[14:51:10] 	is there a way to recreate it or should I reainstall MediaWiki?
[14:52:58] 	WHY DOES IMAGEMAP ALLOW EXTERNAL LINKING
[14:53:38] 	03(mod) SVG handler uses an "uber-crappy hack" instead of a real XML parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14268  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[14:53:57] 	03(NEW) Draft tab does not disappear after sighting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14561 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken)
[14:55:36] <^demon>	Ryulong: pretty easy fix, actually...
[14:55:37] 	Cause mediawiki allows external linking, and many people poked the devs to support it?
[14:55:57] 	Why would you need the Image map to externally link?
[14:56:34] 	right now we have some really ingenuous vandal using it to spam Avril Lavigne through template transclusion
[14:56:47] 	which brings me to another question
[14:56:48] 	Plenty of reasons... just because you don't have one... doesn't mean others won't
[14:56:56] 	Why isn't the template space semi protected?
[14:57:11] 	Open editing
[14:57:20] <^demon>	You know, ImageMap doesn't make use of $wgAllowExternalImages
[14:57:24] *^demon 	fixes that
[14:57:46] 	Why restrict templates when content isn't restricted
[14:58:12] 	because templates are complex content much like the MediaWiki space? :D
[14:58:20] 	No, not really
[14:58:20] 	has anyone run across a problem with printing pages with large wiki tables on it?
[14:58:23] 	also, I need to find me an en.checkuser
[14:58:35] 	In fact their original purpose is quite the opposite
[14:58:38] 	Ryulong: Well, then you're in the wrong channel.
[14:58:43] 	i.e., the table bleeds from one page to the next
[14:58:44] 	I know
[14:58:46] 	It's users who changed that
[14:58:47] 	I'm just saying things
[14:59:05] 	03demon * r36336 10/trunk/extensions/ImageMap/ImageMap_body.php: No point in allowing external images in an ImageMap if we don't allow external images period.
[14:59:28] 	Templates are supposed to be sniplets of WikiText which can be transcluded into articles where they are commonly used
[15:00:01] 	that's not what they are, though
[15:00:08] 	anymore, at least
[15:00:25] 	You can use the same complex template syntax in any other namespace.
[15:00:41] 	Anyways pointlessly restricting the Template: namespace just provokes people to use the content namespaces instead of the Template: namespace.
[15:01:17] 	Well, as most projects focus on content rather than navigability
[15:01:31] 	MediaWiki is a platform geared primarilly towards open editing... not higherarchical access
[15:01:33] <^demon>	Dantman|FS: Anywho, problem solved with ImageMap. It *doesnt* make sense to allow ext. images in an ImageMap if you've otherwise disabled them.
[15:01:56] 	^demon: but what about allowing the use of external links instead of internal links?
[15:02:12] 	Ryulong: That is not going to be prevented.
[15:02:18] 	So
[15:02:34] 	It's going to be permissible to use  to link to other websites?
[15:02:40] 	Sure, why not?
[15:02:41] 	03demon * r36337 10/trunk/extensions/ImageMap/ImageMap_body.php: Helps to declare the global.
[15:02:51] 	What purpose would it serve on our end?
[15:03:36] 	You're not answering my question, I asked "why not?" - if you can't answer that then there is no reason to change existing behvaviour that much of the populous is satisified with.
[15:04:06] 	:/ 'You' may not want it... but others do... It's a perfectly valid functionality of MW and there's no reason for it not to be included in something meant to bring links into images
[15:04:34] <^demon>	Ryulong: ImageMap is used by people other than enwiki, no point in changing functionality because of one vandal on enwiki.
[15:04:35] 	Because Wikimedia sites need not mix the aesthetics of using an image to externally link to some other website
[15:05:02] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:ImageMap#please_support_external_links_in_the_new_version
[15:05:32] 	so...time to remove that for en.wiki :D
[15:05:38] 	I don't think so.
[15:05:53] 	Please link to community consensus regarding it being disabled on enwiki.
[15:05:53] 	Given a consensus to do so
[15:05:54] 	Ya... for that, you'll need community concensus
[15:06:26] <^demon>	I might be pointing out the obvious, but....block the vandal?
[15:06:35] 	It's been happening
[15:06:44] 	But no one seems to be checking to block it for longer
[15:06:55] 	I also don't know which damn board to do that on
[15:07:19] 	^_^ trying to get features removed from something won't solve your vandal issues... they'll just vandalize in another way
[15:07:22] 	village pump, perhaps
[15:07:33] 	Dantman|FS: that's poor logic though
[15:07:39] 	and, why don't the vandals just use standard links; surely they should be just as effective?
[15:07:43] 	eh?
[15:07:57] 	MinuteElectron: WHICH village pump?
[15:08:05] 	not doing something because people will find a way around it is poor logic
[15:08:12] 	Ryulong: Let me think... policies?
[15:08:15] 	especially in software engineering
[15:08:32] 	if the company I work for did that we'd be out of business
[15:08:38] 	No... but removing valid features because a few people abuse them is reall poor
[15:08:56] 	But is the valid feature necessary in all places it is used?
[15:09:00] 	valid?  we have an enterprise mediawiki install and we don't use imagemap
[15:09:08] 	Ya, you don't need it
[15:09:08] 	03demon * r36338 10/trunk/extensions/ImageMap/ImageMap_body.php: Ignore that...I'm an idiot.
[15:09:11] 	:D
[15:09:13] 	exactly
[15:09:22] 	But just cause you don't need it, doesn't mean others don't
[15:09:27] 	devnet: Then don't install it, but other people do use ImageMap and have a valid need for external links.
[15:09:32] 	If you don't want it, don't install it...
[15:09:36] 	exactly
[15:09:41] 	If you don't want external links, there's a preference
[15:09:43] 	it's an extension of core
[15:09:49] 	how do I link to mediawiki.org through [[]]?
[15:10:05] 	mw:?
[15:10:13] 	If it's in the Interwiki map
[15:10:20] 	Is it?
[15:10:36] 	Anything portable and external links should be used
[15:10:41] 	well I'm just glad we don't use it...seems like it's a headache
[15:12:31] 	so back to my original question...has anyone seen a problem with printing in mediawiki for large wiki tables on a page?  I'm getting a bleedover from one page to another
[15:12:50] 	as an example:  http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/index.php?title=rBuilder:Image_Types&printable=yes  <---print preview
[15:13:12] 	I'm using FF 2.0.0.14
[15:13:19] 	on linux of course ;)
[15:15:07] 	en.wiki has too many pages
[15:15:10] 	not articles
[15:15:14] 	just other pages
[15:15:50] 	I remember discussing something with one of the administrators of another project and they said en was template happy
[15:16:03] *devnet 	sighs...
[15:17:12] 	03(mod) Change autoconfirmed settings on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14191  (10kaldari)
[15:17:57] 	Different question
[15:18:06] 	Do I have to file a bug to get a bug fixed at bugzilla?
[15:19:10] 	hi
[15:19:22] 	I've avoided using bugzilla for that very reason :/
[15:19:24] 	what is the easiest way to have a link button on every wiki page?
[15:24:19] 	bjwebb: depends on what you mean by link button
[15:24:27] 	bjwebb: depends on what you mean by link button
[15:24:35] 	a piece of html i want on every page
[15:24:37] *devnet 	hate's the up arrow
[15:24:42] 	lol
[15:25:31] 	I have a footer I put on all pages inside a namespace but I do that with templates and transclusion
[15:25:41] 	no idea how to get it to appear on EVERY page
[15:25:46] 	is there any other markup than leading space which will create a block of fixed font stuff?
[15:25:58] 	i.e. like code listing, but of a different color or something
[15:26:12] 	basically, i want to visually divide input and output on a wiki page
[15:27:05] 	   will work
[15:27:29] 	yah, but they will produce the same outpit
[15:27:32] 	output, too
[15:27:50] 	i cant think of anything else off the top of my head
[15:27:51] 	you want syntax highlighting for code?
[15:30:19] 	RichiH: if you want syntax highlighting, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi  <---what we use
[15:31:00] 	I'm still wondering if anyone has problems printing large wikitables???
[15:31:14] 	devnet: no, i just want a visual clue as to what block is code and what block is output
[15:31:42] 	RichiH: you can use inline style and div's :/  
[15:31:57] 	hrmm, yah
[15:32:02] 	RichiH: or use CSS :/
[15:32:10] 	bout it
[15:32:22] 	you wouldn't know if there is something pre-baked available?
[15:37:46] *devnet 	shakes his head
[15:43:06] 	now the scripts described in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Flominator/Backup_MW for backup up MW, they should both be placed in the root of my wiki, correct?
[15:48:02] 	hi
[15:48:09] 	.
[15:48:19] 	I couldn't find any information on reinstalling MediaWiki
[15:48:27] 	How do I do it?
[15:48:48] 	Ltr: what exactly do you mean?  you mean overwriting an installing you have?
[15:49:05] 	My LocalSettings.php got blanked
[15:49:19] 	I need to fixed it but leave the database and everything
[15:50:23] 	you could just download the files for a new installing onto your own computer, and just upload alone the new LocalSettings.php
[15:50:59] 	how can i get arbitrary html code into the sidebar?
[15:52:52] 	for backing up my wiki, the scripts described in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Flominator/Backup_MW should both be placed in the root of my wiki, right?
[15:54:29] 	but Smaug, I installed MediaWiki remotely - via FTP
[15:54:59] 	Ltr: yes, so upload via FTP a new LocalSettings.php
[15:55:13] 	if everything else is installed and it's just that file, just replace it
[15:57:20] 	good afternoon
[15:57:46] 	anyone have experience authenticating mediawiki against AD?
[15:57:55] 	won't the configuration script produce different localsettings.php on my machine?
[15:58:29] 	Where does the debug info go?
[15:58:55] 	i looked in var/log/messages and the apache error logs
[15:59:51] 	Ltr: the localsettings.php should have been in the files you installed originally.  it's not created by the config (i don't think), though you have to move it out of some directory into the root direcotry
[16:00:03] 	as per instructions
[16:00:23] 	Smaug, any ideas on my AD question
[16:00:26] 	ie LDAP
[16:00:46] 	wi43: no, sorry
[16:00:52] 	hmm
[16:00:57] 	shoot
[16:01:14] 	wi43: i'm not getting my question answered either.  and i have several follow-up questions.
[16:01:30] 	i think everybody is out to lunch, b/c my question isn't that onerouse (the first one at least)
[16:01:44] 	hmm, what is your question
[16:02:58] 	There is no localsettings.php in the package i downloaded
[16:03:10] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Config_script says that it is created by the config script
[16:03:25] 	yes, create a mysql database
[16:03:42] 	then untar the site to the web location that you want.. ie var/www/html or whatever
[16:03:46] 	then go to that page
[16:03:57] 	then go ahead and plug in your info
[16:04:26] 	it will then create a LocalSettings.php which you can copy to your default root of your wiki
[16:05:05] 	ok, ill try this out, thanks
[16:05:15] 	yeah, no prob
[16:05:42] 	Has anyone seen Ryan Lane or know his nic?
[16:10:20] 	for backing up my wiki, the scripts described in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Flominator/Backup_MW should both be placed in the root of my wiki, right?
[16:10:42] *Smaug 	was out for a few minutes
[16:10:57] 	Does anyone know the code in wiki to keep a link a link even when you are viewing the page of that link?
[16:11:23] 	HypedZJ: That's not really possible.
[16:11:36] 	HypedZJ: no, but as a workaround you could have a link to a page that redirects to what you are viewing
[16:11:48] 	got it
[16:13:59] 	what's the currently prefered way to handle extension messages (e.g. for wfMsg)?
[16:17:59] 	for backing up my wiki, the scripts described in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Flominator/Backup_MW should both be placed in the root of my wiki, right? and they need to be run under SSH?
[16:19:17] 	03tstarling * r36339 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/refreshLinks.inc: Use a variable for reporting interval instead of a constant, for inclusion friendliness
[16:19:27] 	Smaug, yes
[16:19:31] 	or by a equivalent mean
[16:19:54] 	Platonides: ty
[16:19:59] 	03tstarling * r36340 10/trunk/wiki2xml/php/mediawiki_converter.php: possible XSS
[16:20:20] 	what does 'equivalent mean' mean?
[16:20:37] 	what is equivalen to SSH?
[16:20:46] 	telnet :P
[16:21:11] 	Platonides: okay.  and what command would I use (I've never used SSH before)?
[16:22:18] 	!install
[16:22:18] --mwbot--	Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at . See also: !download
[16:22:49] 	!download
[16:22:49] --mwbot--	The latest stable release of MediaWiki can be downloaded from . Files are supplied in a .tar.gz archive. MediaWiki can also be obtained direct from our Subversion repository . See  for more information.
[16:23:29] 	!ldap
[16:23:29] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication
[16:26:27] 	!SSH
[16:26:27] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "ssh". You might try: !csshideheader !shell 
[16:26:34] 	!shell
[16:26:34] --mwbot--	Shell access (that is, SSH access, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH) is highly recommended if you want to run MediaWiki. You can install without it, and basic operation will work, but even creating backups or upgrading will be painful without it. Some more involved maintenance tasks may even be impossible. MediaWiki is not designed for minimal environments.
[16:31:17] 	03(mod) Technical opt-out for global groups - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14556  +comment (10marcin.cieslak)
[16:32:53] 	yey
[16:33:01] 	only 1115 files left to install wiki :D
[16:46:27] 	03(mod)  The amount of articles in Chinese Wikipedia are counted incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14553  (10N/A)
[16:51:45] 	Any LDAPers here?
[16:59:42] 	Special pages don't show the number of page views. Are they counted anyway for Special:Statistics?
[17:00:03] 	I simply guess yes. Just wanna clearify.
[17:02:42] 	03(mod)  The amount of articles in Chinese Wikipedia is counted incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14553  (10N/A)
[17:06:55] 	03(mod) Technical opt-out for global groups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14556  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[17:08:22] 	Subfader: if you have caching on then it will not show anywhere
[17:08:36] 	03(mod)  The amount of articles in Chinese Wikipedia is counted incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14553  (10N/A)
[17:09:53] 	O
[17:10:02] *TimStarling 	moves one to the left
[17:10:22] 	I'm just reorganising the includes directory...
[17:11:10] 	I've got specials, db and parser...
[17:11:29] 	I don't really want to make a lot of murky categories, so that it's hard to remember what goes where
[17:11:53] 	parser is a bit murky as it is
[17:13:15] 	I think I'll just stick with files that start with "Parser" for now
[17:15:42] 	hi, how can i include the bytes of the difference of 2 versions in recentchanges?
[17:16:40] 	and how can i include the (User creation log) in the recentchanges?
[17:17:34] 	gerne auch auf deutsch
[17:17:39] 	TimStarling: do you know if there was a bogreport about the UNIQ issue?
[17:17:42] 	bug*
[17:18:01] 	which UNIQ issue?
[17:18:45] 	Philippp: set $wgRCShowChangedSize to true
[17:18:56] 	TimStarling: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AzaToth/X23
[17:19:20] 	got into it now why I wanted to be able to pass an nowiki via an parameter into an #tag:source
[17:19:47] 	probably not
[17:20:00] 	hi
[17:20:08] 	ok, I'll create one then
[17:20:08] 	how do i prevent unregistered people from editing?
[17:21:00] 	markie: in localsettings.php?
[17:21:09] 	Philippp: yes
[17:21:29] 	thanks :)
[17:21:32] 	and new user: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Newuserlog
[17:22:05] 	thanks very much, i'll try it...
[17:22:20] 	JernejL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights
[17:22:27] 	thanks
[17:22:31] 	03(NEW) UNIQ key exposed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14562 major; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (azatoth)
[17:23:03] 	markie, that doesn't seem to be what i need
[17:23:18] 	i want only registered users to be allowed to edit
[17:23:25] 	not change user permissions
[17:23:44] 	JernejL: change the edit permission to exclude unregged fols
[17:23:51] 	!permission
[17:23:51] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "permission". You might try: !newusergroup !phpinfo 
[17:24:00] 	!newusergroup
[17:24:00] --mwbot--	To create a new usergroup, simple set permissions for that group in LocalSettings.php, using $wgGroupPermissions. Then, simply add users to that group
[17:24:02] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual%3A%24wgGroupPermissions
[17:27:27] 	but http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Newuserlog  doesn't include the new users into recentchanges, does it?
[17:30:57] 	yes
[17:35:39] 	thanks for help AzaTht and markie 
[17:35:52] 	03(mod) Draft tab does not disappear after sighting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14561  +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[17:43:53] 	03(mod) Reverts are not always flagged automatically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14560  +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[17:45:09] 	hi
[17:51:04] 	brion, Would I be stabbed for committing a change which created a distinct right for viewdeleted of image and image_talk namespaces.    Wikimedia Commons admins have a significant practical need to see deleted images on other WMF projects, but the word on the street is that some large projects will only accept this if the right is limited to image/image talk. 
[17:51:33] 	hmm, that seems a bit weird
[17:51:44] 	probably it should be generalizable
[17:52:00] 	like a set of viewdeleted-ns* rights
[17:52:08] 	though that might be a bit crazy
[17:52:25] 	brion, I wouldn't mind doing ones per namespace.. but it's such a stupid special case. ;) 
[17:52:35] 	perhaps best to integrate with the namespace permissions array already in there (how reliable is that? is it specific to reads or general for various actions?)
[17:52:57] 	not sure offhand if it's the best way to handle that anyway tho
[17:53:21] 	I just got the idea, of include a check for the wellformatedness of the html in mediawiki, just to inform the editor of the page, would anybody like or dislike it?
[17:53:50] 	(I resisted the idea of limiting it to image namespace until it was clear that it would easily be approved with that limitation and never be approved without it) 
[17:54:15] 	brion, okay, I'll feel around the code and see if an obvious less-ugly general solution becomes apparent. 
[17:54:56] 	good luck
[17:55:13] 	well i wouldn't approve the code change with that specific hard-coded limitation ;)
[18:03:00] <^demon>	brion: Updated the patch to the wfGetSvgSize(), now with less error ;-)
[18:03:38] 	w00t
[18:09:26] <^demon>	Doesn't default to 256x256 anymore. Now defaults to 100%
[18:10:25] 	03(NEW) Box behavior - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14563 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken)
[18:12:30] 	there are namespaces like "wikipedia", "special", "category" etc... but where are they saved? i observed that i do not have portal pages in my local dump
[18:12:46] 	well.. i have them but the namespace gets not resolved
[18:14:40] 	josch, you have to define the extra namespaces
[18:14:48] 	search on mw.org
[18:14:59] 	and where? in localsettings.php?
[18:15:17] 	no
[18:15:29] 	yes
[18:15:51] 	:D
[18:15:55] 	yes to what?
[18:16:13] 	to localsetts.pgp
[18:16:58] 	josch, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgExtraNamespaces
[18:17:14] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Namespace
[18:17:33] 	thx alnokta 
[18:17:44] 	i took http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/CommonSettings.php.html as a reference for the wikipedia config so far
[18:17:47] 	03(mod) Box behavior - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14563  (10JSchulz_4587)
[18:18:06] 	03(mod) "Undo" reverts are not always flagged automatically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14560  summary (10JSchulz_4587)
[18:19:06] 	josch, also get some of these extemsions installed here http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/special:version 
[18:20:22] 	03(mod) Box behavior - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14563  (10JSchulz_4587)
[18:20:26] 	alnokta, i have all i need i think
[18:20:50] 	i use:
[18:20:51] 	require_once( "$IP/extensions/ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.php" );
[18:20:51] 	require_once($IP.'/extensions/Poem/Poem.php');
[18:20:51] 	require_once("extensions/wikihiero/wikihiero.php");
[18:20:51] 	require_once( $IP.'/extensions/Cite/Cite.php' );
[18:21:17] 	i think i dont need more as those suffice to display pages correctly
[18:21:49] 	alnokta, can i get the $wgExtraNamespaces setting of wikipedia somewhere?
[18:22:06] 	no idea
[18:22:50] 	03(mod) corrected PostgreSQL script for FlaggedRevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14559  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[18:23:53] 	oh...
[18:23:57] 	03aaron * r36341 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.pg.sql: PG fixes (bug 14559)
[18:24:03] 	what i found via google tells me that
[18:24:15] 	portal is the ONLY namespace that is added...
[18:24:23] 	03(FIXED) corrected PostgreSQL script for FlaggedRevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14559  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[18:27:00] 	03(mod) Confusion with images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14557  (10JSchulz_4587)
[18:27:09] 	how can i remove opensearch?
[18:28:22] 	i see it's included witht the call $this->html('headlinks') but I don't know where to look from here.
[18:35:10] 	is there a way to change the link of the rss feed in the adress bar? atm it lists Recent Changes. I'd like to use Special:Newpages&namespace=0&feed=atom which works as well but would have to linked manually
[19:15:55] 	Hi can anyone help me with a slight problem that I have
[19:16:14] 	!ask | Chemistrygeek 
[19:16:14] --mwbot--	Chemistrygeek: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC.
[19:16:16] 	03aaron * r36342 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[19:16:16] 	* Show diff to prior stable (at time) in log (bug 14265)
[19:16:16] 	* Add more log actions for sorting
[19:16:16] 	* Remove some duplication
[19:16:48] 	03(FIXED) Make review log more useable. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14265  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[19:17:09] 	Well im trying to upload a pic to my wiki that I host but i keep getting an internal error and i dont know what the hell it is i cant find it anywhere
[19:17:25] 	03(mod)  Allow anon users to define which version sould be displayed by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14321  summary (10JSchulz_4587)
[19:19:35] 	if i provide a link can so one help out
[19:20:37] 	03(mod) "Undo" reverts are not always flagged automatically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14560  (10JSchulz_4587)
[19:23:22] 	03aaron * r36343 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Case typo broke multi-edit undo autosight (bug 14560)
[19:23:42] 	03(FIXED) "Undo" reverts are not always flagged automatically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14560  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[19:24:53] 	Chemistrygeek, check your localsettings.php and proper permissions on the upload directory
[19:29:07] 	03aaron * r36344 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.class.php FlaggedRevsPage.php): Diff link tweaks
[19:29:51] 	How do I restrict viewing on *all* pages to logged in users only
[19:30:55] 	!access
[19:30:55] --mwbot--	For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see .
[19:34:32] 	03raymond * r36345 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Localisation updates German
[19:35:50] 	:)
[19:36:04] 	lightning raymond
[19:36:11] 	\o/
[19:42:04] 	03raymond * r36346 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Per r36308: Add print.css to the message files
[19:44:00] 	örf
[19:44:14] 	Raymond_: shouldn't there then be one for all skins?
[19:44:30] <^demon>	Raymond_: Oops. Completely forgot adding those to msg files.
[19:44:32] <^demon>	Thanks.
[19:45:14] 	Nikerabbit: you mean the print.css? 
[19:45:35] 	^demon: np :)
[19:46:06] 	Raymond_: yeh
[19:46:30] 	^demon: why didn't you add wfDepcreated in r36334 ?
[19:46:31] 	Nikerabbit: there is only one for all skins... print.css is generic, isn't it?
[19:46:42] 	yknow..
[19:46:52] 	Raymond_: huh? there is monobook.css/js
[19:47:03] 	you could just, in print, have a body class like 	why not simple/modern/whatever too
[19:47:05] *Splarka 	hides
[19:47:13] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: Because I didn't know about wfDeprecated()?
[19:47:16] 	ah... good question
[19:47:31] 	^demon: now you do, it's defined in GlobalFunctions
[19:48:05] 	otoh, it's not as useful anymore when TimStarling disabled the user warnings
[19:49:36] 	it was flooding the syslog with warnings about function calls that we didn't want to remove, for backwards compatibility reasons
[19:49:49] 	so of course I disabled it
[19:49:56] 	03catrope * r36347 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiMain.php): (bug 14402) Added smaxage parameter to api.php
[19:50:10] 	03demon * r36348 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: Add wfDeprecated() to Article::getDB()
[19:50:44] 	TimStarling: why not fix the callers...?
[19:50:52] 	because they're not broken
[19:50:54] *Splarka 	wonders when IEfixes will be interface editable, possibly through an action=raw&gen=css&gentype=ie7fixes which would combine /skins/skinname/IE7Fixes.css and MediaWiki:Skinnname/IE7Fixes.css
[19:51:06] 	03(mod)  Allow noncritical and possibly repetitive API queries to be cached by &maxage URI parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14402  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[19:51:18] 	TimStarling: then the functions are not deprecated... by definition
[19:51:39] 	there's a difference between deprecated and removed
[19:51:50] 	I'm searching for an extension who wrote "article by "
[19:51:51] 	deprecated is a migration state, during migration, you can call it
[19:52:01] 	after it's removed, it's an error to call it
[19:52:09] 	before it's removed, it's just a warning
[19:52:16] 	deprecated = stop calling this function, it may be remowed in the future -> fix the callers
[19:52:30] 	I can't follow your logic
[19:52:30] 	if you say so
[19:52:55] 	we write deprecated on things without any intention of ever actually removing them
[19:52:58] 	I've a problem with a mediawiki installation. I have edited a page and I can only see the changes reflected on this page when I'm logged. Anonymous users still view the old one. Which is the problem ?
[19:53:10] 	it's just theoretically deprecated
[19:53:16] 	The wiki is: http://ast-deim.urv.cat/wiki/COPS
[19:53:26] 	TimStarling: they they should not be deprecated with wfDeprecated, imho
[19:53:28] 	maybe if it becomes necessary to remove it, we will
[19:54:04] 	it obviously needed to be configurable, there's no reason at all to spam the syslog on suda
[19:54:14] 	regardless of how nasty a function is
[19:54:14] 	I agree on that
[19:54:56] 	The JS var wgCurRevisionId is the same for both but the content is different !
[19:55:01] 	it is for developers, not for spamming production server
[19:55:41] 	03(mod)  Allow noncritical and possibly repetitive API queries to be cached by &maxage URI parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14402  (10herd)
[20:02:02] 	Just one question: Where can I find in the DB the ID number of the last modification ? It is under the real last modification !
[20:02:55] 	should be under Recent Changes, but your Recent Changes seems stuck cached from a few days ago
[20:03:27] 	http://ast-deim.urv.cat/wwiki/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&hidebots=0&action=purge   only shows up to 1283 but you have revisionIDs up to 1321
[20:04:31] 	"thanks for telling me what I already know"
[20:06:38] 	03catrope * r36349 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiMain.php): Add maxage too
[20:07:06] 	03(mod)  Allow noncritical and possibly repetitive API queries to be cached by &maxage URI parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14402  (10roan.kattouw)
[20:07:44] 	Splarka: How can I increment the value until 1322 ?
[20:08:07] *Splarka 	wonders why roan commits while off of irc, tsk
[20:08:46] 	llpamies: for example, http://ast-deim.urv.cat/wwiki/index.php?title=-&diff=1321
[20:08:48] <^demon>	Splarka: Wondered that myself this morning, had a question about a commit he made :-P
[20:08:52] 	Where can I get examples of the {{quote}} temp used in WP?
[20:08:57] 	Splarka: Why last change is on July and the `date` command says: Mon Jun 16 22:06:06 CEST 2008
[20:09:11] *Splarka 	just kept incrementing the number until it said error at 1322
[20:09:29] <^demon>	gegema: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Quote&hideredirs=1&hidelinks=1
[20:10:54] 	llpamies: ahh, might be a clue
[20:12:01] 	perhaps your system clock jumped into the future recently, and then jumped back
[20:12:19] 	and so now you have revisions out of order by date
[20:12:39] 	Splarka: Its possible.... We expected electricity losses few days ago...
[20:12:46] 	Its possible to fix it ?
[20:12:47] 	^demon: I was looking for the code behind the {{quote}} template. I wanted to quote something on my MW install
[20:12:54] 	ahh, that does seems to be the case... http://ast-deim.urv.cat/wwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=1&action=history
[20:13:04] 	notice you have an edit there about a month into the future
[20:13:23] 	but with a revisionID if 1283, while edits on June 16th are in the 1300s
[20:13:56] 	you might have to do some dirty database manipulation to fix... ? (don't know)
[20:13:56] 	How can I delete this modification ?
[20:14:10] 	Which ID has this modification ?
[20:14:34] 	well, you can delete the whole article and restore (via Special:Undelete) all but the revisions from July 16
[20:14:38] <^demon>	gegema: In that case, take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Quote&action=edit, the bit in between the  is what you need.
[20:14:42] 	or install an extension like Oversight
[20:15:26] 	^demon: Thank you!
[20:15:41] <^demon>	np
[20:17:43] 	03(NEW) centralauth_Session cookie should not be persistent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14564 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (nospam)
[20:17:43] 	03aaron * r36350 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/maintenance/ (reviewAllPages.inc updateLinks.inc): Functions were renamed
[20:19:01] 	03brion * r36351 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SquidUpdate.php): 
[20:19:01] 	* (bug 4977) Fix for possible squid purging errors when using HTTP purges
[20:19:01] 	 and multiple servers
[20:19:03] 	Splarka: Thank you !! Thank you !!
[20:19:08] 	03raymond * r36352 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add the other existing $skin.css/.js to the message files too to be consistent
[20:19:09] 	I deleted the page and created it again
[20:19:16] 	it seems to work :p
[20:20:23] 	03(FIXED) Some squid caches serving stale image and thumbnail versions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7807  +comment (10brion)
[20:21:22] 	I've got a patch for Piwik Integration (/trunk/extensions/Piwik/) in http://rafb.net/p/q8L1Ym54.html and it's necessary (without it, the extension won't work)
[20:21:38] 	share and enjoy
[20:21:45] 	03tstarling * r36353 10/trunk/phase3/ (200 files in 6 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[20:21:45] 	* Reorganised the includes directory, creating subdirectories db, parser and specials
[20:21:45] 	* Wrote a tool to check the integrity of the autoloader class list, fixed some issues that came up.
[20:21:45] 	* Start the autoloader before LocalSettings.php, so that when an extension
[20:21:46] 	writer thinks an inefficient one-file special page extension is the way to go,
[20:21:48] 	they don't have to use explicit includes to make the class inheritance work.
[20:21:50] 	Should continue to work with $IP set in LocalSettings.php as long as $IP is set
[20:22:07] 	\o/
[20:22:12] 	wow
[20:22:37] 	woohoo
[20:22:54] *Charitwo 	hands out balloons
[20:22:55] 	whoa, did anyone else feel that...
[20:23:36] 	03tstarling * r36354 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Fixes for special page reorganisation in r36353.
[20:23:53] 	now, if only we were still using CVS
[20:24:07] 	my annotated line count would go through the roof
[20:26:09] 	'/includes/specials' ... hehe
[20:26:17] 	brion: makes me think of movie night
[20:28:22] *Splarka 	watches Wikia devs scurry like ants in the wake of 36353
[20:29:00] 	hahah Spl ;-)
[20:29:05] 	03(mod) Show warning when hash identical file exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13434  (10brion)
[20:30:56] 	03demon * r36355 10/trunk/extensions/Piwik/Piwik.php: Minor fix by Isb1009. Previous version wouldn't even work.
[20:31:04] <^demon>	Isb1009: Done. ^
[20:33:17] <^demon>	TimStarling: Gmail didn't like your MediaWiki-CVS e-mail. It clipped it :-P
[20:34:48] 	My mail client didn't!!
[20:35:36] 	MinuteElectron: you offended him
[20:35:54] 	Warning: require_once(C:\Server\xampp\htdocs\MW\includes\specials/ChangesList.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in C:\Server\xampp\htdocs\MW\includes\specials\Recentchanges.php on line 10
[20:36:19] 	Aww, that's unfroutuante...
[20:37:28] 	03aaron * r36356 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/Recentchanges.php: Remove require() line - caused fatal errors
[20:37:35] 	Warning: require_once(/var/www/wtest/includes/ParserOptions.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /extensions/FCKeditor/FCKeditor.php on line 29
[20:37:37] 	yay...
[20:37:43] 	gotta love people not using our svn *grumble*
[20:37:44] 	ok, I'm gonna grep
[20:38:06] 	brion: but first of all, wtf is this old historyblob thing?
[20:38:19] 	so, we've been running MW 1.11 as our employee knowledgebase for a while now, and I've recently been told I need to move it from the FC6/Apache environment to Win2k3/IIS.
[20:38:24] 	03(mod) Change autoconfirmed settings on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14191  (10brion)
[20:38:25] 	FCKEditor is broken, it says so in big letters
[20:38:30] 	that's why I didn't try to fix it
[20:38:39] 	How much pain am I in for?
[20:38:53] 	AaronSchulz: concatenated gzipped text entries for higher compression ratio
[20:39:07] 	Tim: this is the devel version from their trunk ;-) though I do admit that it's kinda ugly and icky...but works somehow, heh
[20:39:42] 	ok, seems ok
[20:39:44] 	you don't need any explicit require_once anymore
[20:40:02] 	mikedub, :/ ouch
[20:40:28] 	JSharp: YOU! Go bug Emil about wikia's svn! :P
[20:40:33] 	yes.
[20:40:56] 	Jack_Phoenix, indeed
[20:41:08] 	I'm considering just quitting instead
[20:41:19] 	Jack_Phoenix, I think they're getting sick of me complaining and asking
[20:41:22] 	move to Alaska and man one of those satellite stations.
[20:42:03] 	mmm, polar orbit downlinks
[20:42:13] 	JSharp: want me to, then? I'm good at it, trust me ;-) I bugged Artur earlier on skype, asking for emil's skype name so that I could add him into the svn channel but didn't get a reply yet
[20:42:23] 	I hear Kiruna in Sweden is a nice place to live during their 5 minute summer
[20:42:40] 	oh, I just thought of the best idea yet! I'll set up a VM on the win2k box.
[20:43:07] 	mikedub: it depends on how you're using it
[20:43:36] 	the core should more or less work, you could just copy the files across, reimport the database from SQL
[20:43:36] 	mikedub, indeed... that's like saying "I'm not touching you! I'm not touching you!"
[20:44:14] 	it gets tricky if you're using external utilities like rsvg
[20:44:30] 	TimStarling: ya, that should be simple enough, but I'm worried about the things I take for granted in a LAMP environment, like sane file perms for uploads
[20:44:40] 	oh, it won't be secure
[20:44:52] 	you wouldn't be running IIS if you wanted it to be secure, would you?
[20:45:12] 	I wouldn't be running IIS if I had any say.
[20:45:45] 	MediaWiki won't fiddle with NT ACLs or anything like that, so it's insecure in a lot of ways
[20:46:01] 	I've never been yelled at about an operating system before today.
[20:46:41] 	I think the main thing is to make sure you have an offline deleted image directory set
[20:46:57] 	assuming you want deleted images to stay deleted
[20:47:10] 	Where can I change the layout of the rss atom page?
[20:47:45] 	I've got MW locked down to only but a few "editors", everyone else is an anonymous user.
[20:48:17] 	..unless I'm not getting what you're saying.
[20:49:02] 	Whenever I try to add in a logo to my wiki using $wgLogo = 'photoname.jpg'; , I get the following error:
[20:49:09] 	Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_VARIABLE in /home/denisius/public_html/erandiawiki/LocalSettings.php on line 41
[20:49:28] 	say if you upload a PDF to the wiki
[20:49:38] 	so what does line 41 read in LocalSettings?
[20:49:39] 	management says "take that down, that's sensitive data"
[20:49:49] 	so you click the "delete" tab, and it goes away
[20:50:02] 	ah
[20:50:04] 	gotcha
[20:50:17] 	^demon: Thank you!
[20:50:18] 	where it actually goes, by default is images/deleted, which is ordinarily protected by .htaccess and some practical obscurity
[20:50:28] 	$wgLogo = 'http://yourwiki.org/wiki/images/6/62/photoname.jpg'
[20:50:38] 	The link itself, is the link to my image.
[20:50:49] 	but the files are still going to be viewable if you can work out the URL
[20:51:22] 	so you should configure it to use a directory for deleted images that's right out of the public document tree
[20:51:37] 	or else configure IIS to forbid access to that directory
[20:51:41] 	Any idea on how to fix that?
[20:52:11] 	Denisius: look up at the previous line. bet it's missing the ";" at the end
[20:52:12] 	TimStarling: hmm. good idea. I'll keep that at the back of my mind.
[20:52:27] 	Denisius: try ; at the end but better is sth like $wgLogo             = "$wgScriptPath/wiki.png";
[20:52:36] 	TimStarling: since 4 wikis are missing the rc_user_text index, any chance someone might add them ?
[20:52:44] 	Luckily there's an approval process management goes through before stuff gets posted, so I'm not overly worried about that.
[20:53:03] 	which 4?
[20:53:04] 	TimStarling: any other snafus that you can think of?
[20:53:07] 	Thanks, it is now working properly.
[20:53:11] 	brion: I can set the includes folder to "tile" again :)
[20:53:19] 	TimStarling: ask brion, I don't remember
[20:53:30] 	mikedub: no, but then I haven't actually used IIS ever
[20:53:57] 	TimStarling: I hadn't either. :)
[20:54:25] 	maybe I'll document my journey for posterity
[20:54:42] 	03raymond * r36357 10/trunk/extensions/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Add 'svn-revision' and 'svn-date' to extensionCredits where missing for extensions used on WMF servers
[20:56:24] 	03(mod) Change autoconfirmed settings on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14191  (10ned)
[20:56:43] 	I have ( $wgStrictFileExtensions = false; ) as well as ( $wgFileExtensions = array ('png', 'gif', 'jpg', 'jpeg', 'pdf', 'flv'); in my Localsettings >>however, I am getting an error "The file is corrupt or has an incorrect extension. Please check the file and upload again." when trying to upload an ".gif" file, have tried different files with that extension as well...any ideas?
[20:58:28] *gegema 	is running MW 1.11.2 Btw
[20:58:46] 	03raymond * r36358 10/trunk/extensions/Piwik/Piwik.php: fix error in SVN keywords
[21:00:14] 	03(mod) Show warning when hash identical file exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13434  (10waldir)
[21:01:49] 	How can I find out how many subscripers my standard MW rss feed has?
[21:02:09] 	can one at all?
[21:03:10] 	 i don';t think you can 
[21:03:16] 	you can estimate it
[21:03:54] 	but it's probably better to just say you're measuring the number of unique visitors, instead of the number of subscribers
[21:04:08] 	because that's the best you can do
[21:05:01] 	ok thanks.
[21:05:27] 	TimStarling, earlier today, i was doing a lot of deletions on arwikibooks, everynow and then, i get a page where it looks like i'm not logged in and whines about not having permission, if i click back and delete again.. it deletes fine.. is that a bug of firefox 3?
[21:06:08] 	probably a polluted cache
[21:06:21] 	the readers read the wiki markup for Special:Newpages which is quite useless. is there a work around?
[21:06:35] 	hmm, no, sorry, not for deletions
[21:06:56] 	I've been awake for a long time...
[21:09:32] *alnokta 	sleep 10h TimStarling forced
[21:10:14] 	IO threads are not for you to force sleep on!
[21:10:36] 	
[21:10:41] 	set a cron job to douse him with sandman sand every 8 hours
[21:11:58] 	so long as I don't have to write the device driver for the bucket
[21:16:29] 	does apache need to be restarted after changing robots.txt?
[21:17:23] 	no
[21:17:33] 	ok, thanks
[21:20:28] 	Is there a way to get a list of all Wanted Pages saved to a Text file?
[21:25:22] 	does anyone know where I can delete the message: This page has been accessed xxxx times. that appears at the bottom of every page?
[21:27:12] 	mogra, yes. using Auto wiki browser.
[21:27:19] 	HypedZJ :
[21:27:19] 	virginie# grep -rin "This page has been accessed" ./*
[21:27:20] 	./languages/messages/MessagesEn.php:651:'viewcount' => 'This page has been accessed {{PLURAL:$1|once|$1 times}}.',
[21:27:25] 	heh
[21:27:32] 	HypedZJ: do you want to disable page hit counters altogether? usually a good idea
[21:27:46] 	or do you want to keep that functionality (for Statistics, Popularpages, etc) but hide the individual messages?
[21:28:01] 	why do you think its a good idea?
[21:28:18] 	well, it is scaleable... you can use cache servers if you ever need them in the future
[21:28:25] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDisableCounters
[21:28:46] 	I'm searching for an extension who wrote "article by "
[21:28:58] 	Splarka, does it have any perfo. gain?
[21:29:01] 	Or a function in MW
[21:29:28] 	without cache servers? probably barely a nonzero gain...?
[21:29:42] 	splarka - how would I go about just removing the message?
[21:29:42] 	!ex PageBy | Meskalyn
[21:29:42] --mwbot--	Meskalyn: I don't know anything about "ex". You might try: !actions !adsense !bizzwiki !boilerplate !centralauth !dpl !e !editbuttons !extensionmatrix !extranamespace !feeds !filetype !interwiki !ldap !moderation !parserfunctions !renameuser !sidebarex !threads !userapproval 
[21:29:48] 	damn
[21:29:54] 	Splarka, i mean disabling it
[21:29:56] 	uh...
[21:30:01] 	HypedZJ: see Meskalyn's grep results
[21:30:05] 	Meskalyn: the PageBy extension
[21:30:09] 	PageBy :)
[21:30:13] 	(why didn't the bot pick that up?)
[21:30:17] 	(that is, edit in MediaWiki:Viewcount )
[21:30:28] 	Thank you, I searched for "Author" "Contributor" but my english [censured] :p
[21:30:37] 	!ext PageBy 
[21:30:37] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageBy
[21:30:48] 	cool
[21:30:49] 	Mediawiki is blacklisted by Google oO ?
[21:31:24] 	HypedZJ: also check the message and see if it is wrapped in a class or id that you could hide
[21:33:26] 	I just deleted everything in MediaWiki:Viewcount but I am still getting the message on pages
[21:33:32] 	Quick question: is there a naming scheme or a configuration scheme for making pages as subcategories of other pages?
[21:33:46] 	josh43, you mean like subpages?
[21:34:04] 	yeah, like so that it shows as a subpage in the sitemap
[21:34:13] 	HypedZJ: deleting isn't always successful (the default may be used), try changing it
[21:34:23] 	ok
[21:34:24] 	oh.. I am an idiot
[21:34:28] 	wrong channel
[21:34:32] 	sorry
[21:35:09] 	is there a way to see how many users use a certain gadget?
[21:43:33] 	Hey, for Unified Login, does it have a separate database table?
[21:43:47] 	Soxred93: A completely seperate database.
[21:44:01] 	Oh, wow
[21:44:08] 	What's the database name?
[21:44:23] 	Whatever you want it to be.
[21:44:35] 	No, I mean for Wikimedia specific
[21:45:20] 	centralauth I believe, although don't quote me on that.
[21:45:44] *rainman-sr 	hopes Soxred93 is not trying a sql-injection attact :o
[21:45:52] 	No
[21:46:04] 	I'm trying to make a tool that has to do with SUL
[21:46:48] 	03(mod) Show warning when hash identical file exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13434  (10raimond.spekking)
[21:48:09] 	r36353 kills all blames on those files, right?
[21:48:44] <^demon>	Soxred93: Make it a variable, so you can change it later?
[21:50:55] 	alnokta:  I've got AWB installed here, most recent version. When I List SpecialPages:Wantedpages it comes up blank :|
[21:51:20] 	er, Special:Wantedpages
[21:51:53] <^demon>	mogra: Try checking #autowikibrowser
[21:52:41] 	^demon: No, I'm trying to connect to the SUL database, so I can return results from it
[21:52:52] 	If VVV was here, it'd be a lot easier
[21:53:07] 	What is your current issue?
[21:53:32] 	mogra, make sure you specify your settings
[21:53:34] 	I am trying to connect to the SUL database, but I don't know the name, so I can't connect
[21:53:52] <^demon>	Soxred93: Why not install a pretend CentralAuth on a db you control? Then you can just throw it at the real centralauth once you find the name and are done testing?
[21:53:55] 	one sec
[21:54:12] 	^demon: hes using th etoolserver, presumably
[21:54:21] 	Aha.
[21:54:24] 	no point in using a dummy one if you have the real one right there
[21:54:25] 	Globaluser
[21:54:28] 	I'm assuming
[21:54:30] 	yes, thats the one
[21:54:40] 	alnokta3: fyi,  Yeah, unfortunately, special pages are generally broken with AWB atm
[21:55:30] 	soxred93@hemlock:~$ sql globaluser
[21:55:30] 	/usr/local/bin/sql: no such database "globaluser"
[21:55:30] 	bye
[21:55:34] 	hmm
[21:58:37] 	Soxred93, try "centralauth".
[21:58:55] 	centralauth_p maybe?
[21:59:14] 	Neither work
[21:59:17] 	yep
[22:00:16] *Splarka 	wonders what http://en.wikipedia.org/w/ca.php uses
[22:03:41] 	meh
[22:03:44] *MinuteElectron 	out.
[22:10:23] 	!kiss Duesentrieb :) Thank you for the PageBy link :)
[22:10:23] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "kiss".
[22:10:24] *WaRpAtH 	snoggles up to Meskalyn
[22:16:14] 	Problem with the most recent rev :S
[22:17:01] 	whoever added the includes/specials forgot to fix some names
[22:17:03] 	Warning: require_once(/home/testwiki/htdocs/html/w/includes/specials/SpecialRecentchanges.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/testwiki/htdocs/html/w/includes/specials/Watchlist.php on line 10
[22:17:29] 	Evening :)
[22:17:49] 	03ialex * r36359 10/trunk/phase3/includes/PageHistory.php: Don't break feeds
[22:17:58] 	Alexfusco5: just fixed :)
[22:18:26] 	ialex: not with feeds
[22:18:35] 	on Watchlist
[22:18:39] 	but will check
[22:18:54] 	that was for feeds is action=history
[22:19:06] 	so now watchlist
[22:20:01] 	just never corrected the names from /includes/Special... to /include/specials/...
[22:21:03] 	anyone got a couple cycles for a post-1.12-upgrade login problem?
[22:21:25] 	03ialex * r36360 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/Watchlist.php: One more, thanks to Alexfusco5 for reporting it
[22:21:34] 	been searching for something on it but coming up empty
[22:21:34] 	CIA-53: check now
[22:21:43] *Alexfusco5 	is checking
[22:21:44] 	Alexfusco5: check now
[22:21:52] *Charitwo 	eats CIA-53
[22:21:52] *CIA-53 	tastes crunchy
[22:21:58] 	O_o
[22:23:50] 	robophagia
[22:24:26] *^demon 	throws a hand grenade at CIA-53
[22:24:55] *Alexfusco5 	kills CIA-53
[22:24:55] *CIA-53 	dies
[22:25:11] 	Alexfusco5: it works? :)
[22:25:20] <^demon>	Alexfusco5: I figured the hand grenade would do the trick ;-)
[22:25:35] 	ialex, what do you think about fixing the issue we talked about? 
[22:25:36] 	ialex: yup :)
[22:26:09] 	alnokta: maybe another day, it's going to be bed time soon
[22:26:34] 	ialex, ok.. goodnight then
[22:32:23] 	holy jeebus, this is avalanching...
[22:32:27] 	xD
[22:32:49] 	now I have >3000 WantedPages... *makes a note on trying to import pages*
[22:32:56] 	Sorry to butt in, but can anyone point me in the right direction to read up on how to add infoboxes to wikia hosted wikis? :)
[22:36:57] 	!infobox | Kilch 
[22:36:57] --mwbot--	Kilch: I don't know anything about "infobox".
[22:37:02] 	!infoboxes
[22:37:02] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "infoboxes".
[22:37:06] *Simetrical 	frowns
[22:37:52] 	Ah its mocking me! lol
[22:42:33] 	03(mod) Technical opt-out for global groups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14556  (10millosh)
[22:44:35] 	- Hi - does anyone know what the wiki code is to make a link open in a new window?
[22:45:38] 	HypedZJ, there is none.
[22:46:13] 	so is it impossible to make external links
[22:46:16] 	open in a new page?
[22:47:17] 	HypedZJ, using the core software, yes.
[22:48:16] 	got it
[22:48:59] 	argh, where's Fire
[22:49:22] 	Hi
[22:49:29] 	Splarka!
[22:50:05] 	How do I make it so that a table that I made will stay on the right of a page?
[22:52:50] 	03dale * r36361 10/branches/MetavidWiki-exp/ (5 files in 4 dirs): fixed php short tag portability issue
[22:55:21] 	what the heck is up with this? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table#Square_monitors
[23:00:57] 	anyone got a guess as to why known users would suddenly come up "no user by that name" after upgrading from 1.9 to 1.12?
[23:05:24] 	03(mod) Technical opt-out for global groups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14556  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:31:19] 	!newwindow | Simetrical
[23:31:19] --mwbot--	Simetrical: You shouldn't do this, but since you asked: 
[23:31:24] 	(next time someone asks)
[23:31:35] 	Charitwo?
[23:31:50] 	Splarka: its been since taken care of ;)
[23:31:57] 	Splarka: i think the part of that calc after the comma could be removed ;)
[23:32:52] 	calc? comma?
[23:33:00] 	er, factoid.  whatever you call them here
[23:33:52] 	sofixit ^_^
[23:34:46] 	flying: some countries assign legal obligation for content on websites that link offsite content without a target=_blank
[23:35:05] 	which is insanely stupid, but no more stupid than some stupid laws in the US regarding linking and copyright infringement
[23:37:52] <^demon>	As much as I love the reorganized ~/includes, it has made applying patches rather annoying...
[23:44:08] 	hey all.  i'm planning on attempting to try to turn my wiki into a wiki family tomorrow.
[23:44:34] 	I�m looking at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family#Scenario_3:_Quick_set-up, and it is a little confusing.  I get that a central file is named LocalSettings.php, which in turn includes the proper LocalSettings for a specific wiki.  
[23:44:45] 	But if I am aiming to have wikis in different directories, like www.domain.com/w/ (htaccessed to appear as www.domain.com/wiki/) and www.domain.com/other/wiki2/, then if someone navigates to /other/wiki2, how will the LocalSettings.php in /w/ or /wiki/ get activated (I don�t know the real word)?
[23:56:56] 	Why do admins have &action=history set to limit=1000 ?
[23:57:05] 	Are admins assumed to have faster Internet or something?
[23:58:56] 	1000?
[23:59:01] 	is that just you
[23:59:51] 	Hmm.