[00:01:36] 03(mod) Talk pages of subpages are not moved if the top-level page has no talk page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14369 summary; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [00:03:33] one question, we are developing a new skin for the german wikipedia, is there any test server that we could use for this? [00:09:32] Christoph_Knoth, you can just install mediawiki and test as you like [00:14:06] Hi - looking for some help on how to turn on profiling in LocalConfig - I can't seem to get anything to come out into the log file I specifiy [00:16:45] how does one add other links to the footer where the About & Disclaimer links are? [00:18:21] i did already [00:18:26] but i want to test it with others [00:18:52] different machines, different browsers [00:25:41] hello i wanted to ask if there is a guide on instaling wikimedia on a a database i already have. my database is a simple database with username and password no md5 i want to use that username and password. i posted in wikimedia for help or a guide but no reply yet [00:26:49] you could probably just build the user/hash table [00:27:28] yea but my knowlegde of php is basic so i was wondering if there was a nice guide like the other guide wiki have [00:28:47] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImportUsers maybe? [00:30:10] i found a guide to just about everything ecept that lol [00:30:11] ahh ill take a look [00:31:06] hmm not what i need. basically what i want to do is use the login database i have for my forum with wiki so people dont have to make another account for wiki [00:32:19] ahh [00:32:48] yea i saw on the main page that it is possible but i never ound a guide [00:32:56] found** [00:33:54] MediaWiki can share the database of another web-based application, e.g. phpBB etc. [00:33:57] probably something in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:User_identity_extensions [00:34:09] let me try that [00:34:38] or http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:AutoAuthenticate_extensions [00:35:17] how do I remove the user and usertalk page links in the upper-right corner of the wiki pages? [00:37:12] #pt-userpage, #pt-mytalk {display:none;} [00:37:15] will make them invisible anyway [00:38:06] thanks [00:41:13] Splarka: doesn't seem to have worked. where do I add that? [00:42:45] 03(NEW) Moving subpages misses some - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14575 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (mike.lifeguard) [00:42:52] to MediaWiki:Monobook.css [00:43:06] 03(mod) Talk pages of subpages are not moved if the top-level page has no talk page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14369 (10mike.lifeguard) [01:01:38] Hey, Splarka [01:02:44] Is it possible to specify id= or span id for thumbnails, using css? Say, if you want it unbordered [01:03:16] (in a mw installation of course) [01:14:20] Sasoriza: you mean make one specific thumbnail unbordered? [01:14:45] yeah, using a class or id in the stylesheet [01:15:28] what you'd probably want to do is specify it in the wikicode [01:15:44] not sure where the tag would go [01:15:50]
[[Image:foo.jpg]]
[01:16:58] that breaks out from the thumb [01:17:23] well be more specific then, with an example [01:17:35] give me some wikicode and tell me which border you want removed [01:18:25] more or less like this:
[[Image:image|thumb|200px|caption]]
[01:18:45] But I thought there was a way to tag it inside the brackets [01:19:06] you can do that with links but not images (well, you can tag the caption...) [01:19:15] yeah... [01:19:24] and you don't wanna use an id="" there [01:19:31] either/or [01:19:31] you can only have one of each id per page [01:19:43] not either/or, you don't want ID or you can only use it once per page [01:20:01] ok, class then = same question [01:20:10] anyway... [01:21:07] [[Image:foo.jpg|thumb|200px|caption]] produces: [01:21:58]
caption
[01:23:49] the border is on the .thumbinner [01:24:06] (in monobook anyway) [01:24:40] *Sasoriza thinks [01:24:40] so:
[[Image:foo.jpg|thumb|200px|caption]]
[01:24:46] .image-noborder div.thumbinner {border:none;} [01:25:58] however... [01:27:55] you can do almost the same thing with just wikicode and html, no css [01:28:40]
[[Image:Foo.jpg|200px]]
caption
[01:28:59] you don't need "thumb" to make it smaller [01:29:00] *Sasoriza nods [01:29:10] all thumb does is give it a border, caption, and magnify link [01:31:40] 03(mod) Suggestion: Rename "Bad image list" to better title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14281 +comment (10banyantreewp) [01:42:59] i have a story of woe (and a request for help) [01:43:08] i decided to upgrade to 1.12 today [01:43:47] So i downloaded the 1.12 files, unpack the compressed tar, and uploaded them to my site. [01:44:02] i run the update.php script from SSH [01:44:26] i get an errror: Failed loading /usr/local/IonCube/ioncube_loader_lin_5.2.so: /usr/local/IonCube/ioncube_loader_lin_5.2.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [01:44:33] but the script runs anyway [01:44:38] changing my database [01:44:53] so I navigate to my wiki in Internet Explorer [01:45:03] and find that it is down and not working at all [01:45:25] so I try going to the config directoy and pretend it's a new install and not an upgrade [01:45:32] it tells me my wiki is perfectly installed [01:45:37] but it is not [01:46:28] "fine" i say "i'll just downgrade back to 1.11, deal with 1.12 another day" but overwriting 1.12 with 1.11 does not help. i beleive it is because of the changes to the database (and elsewhere?) that update.php did. [01:47:05] So, is there any way to solve the problem and successfully upgrade to 1.12, or a way to successfully revert to 1.11? [01:48:07] *AaronSchulz just saw an election message for the first time [01:48:17] was for McCain [01:48:18] *Smaug does not beleive AaronScult [01:48:25] *Schulz [01:49:55] Been living under a rock? :) [02:04:10] AaronSchulz: if only mailing lists were stored on the web so you could read the posts later [02:04:38] Sasoriza: heh, just didn't see any yet [02:04:44] I mean for the election, not the primary [02:11:13] 'wp@...' [02:11:17] *AaronSchulz sighs [02:12:24] ok, just nabble acting up [02:16:02] 03(NEW) Add "override-antispoof" right to accountcreator group. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14576 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: AntiSpoof; (tylerromeo) [02:51:44] how do i setup interwiki links to Wikipedia? [02:53:06] hey [02:53:29] !interwiki cybercobra [02:53:29] --mwbot-- Interwiki links are links between wikis. For instance, on Wiktionary, [[w:Article name]] or [[Wikipedia:Article name]] will link to a Wikipedia article. To set up interwiki links, see as well as . For easy configuration, use anybody know of a PHP library for the mediawiki/wikipedia API? [02:54:14] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Client_Code doesn't have one, and a google search isn't helpful [03:11:13] Hi, someone can help me? I set up my AdminSettings.php and I run generateSitemaps.php, but it returns without generate the sitemap.xml and without printing errors... [03:11:55] ...How I can know which is the error? [03:17:33] grrr... sorry for the cycling. [03:24:59] 03(mod) Grouping references does not support DBCS characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14216 (10fdcn64) [03:30:33] 03(mod) Create patroller and rollbacker group on Russian Wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14568 (10irmvol) [03:31:03] Passwords are stored in the database via a regular hash yea? [03:31:33] c: md5 [03:31:41] i beleive [03:44:49] :( bye [03:56:53] 03(mod) Grouping references does not support DBCS characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14216 (10fdcn64) [03:57:28] c: It's a bit more complicated than an MD5. [03:57:52] i just need a general idea of whats used [03:58:18] MD5 ( userid - MD5 (password) ) was used, I believe. But it recently changed. [04:00:35] see static function crypt( $password, $salt = false ) in User.php [04:08:52] 03(mod) The amount of articles in Chinese Wikipedia is counted incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14553 (10shizhao) [04:09:22] Where are all the instances, in the files, of the name of database (i.e. if i want to change MW to use a database by a different name, what do I have to change?)? [04:10:17] Just LocalSettings, no? [04:11:01] yeah, LocalSettings should be the only place you need to change anything [04:36:09] ok [04:36:13] thanks [04:46:07] 03(mod) Install ConfirmAccount extension on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13782 +comment (10tylerromeo) [05:02:27] 03(mod) Grouping references does not support DBCS characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14216 (10fdcn64) [05:04:42] 03(mod) Grouping references does not support DBCS characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14216 (10fdcn64) [05:51:51] 03(mod) Unicode normalization "sorts" Hebrew and Arabic vowels wrongly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2399 +comment (10dovijacobs) [06:02:32] hmm [06:04:11] 03(mod) The amount of articles in Chinese Wikipedia is counted incorrectly - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14553 (10shizhao) [06:15:26] hey, I'm wondering about the rel=nofollow on the history tab and other tabs. I look in the code and i don't see it on the links. where is it exactly? [06:18:10] see /includes/Linker.php [06:18:29] eg [06:18:29] if( $wgNoFollowLinks && !(isset($ns) && in_array($ns, $wgNoFollowNsExceptions)) ) { [06:18:29] $style .= ' rel="nofollow"'; [06:18:58] (although that is set for external links, it can give you a clue) [06:19:39] isn't it supposed to be set for non article pages as well? (btw, I'm looking at Linker.php) [06:20:55] actually, it isn't on the history tabs (not that I can see anyways, by default) [06:20:58] it is on the history page though [06:21:04] ah [06:21:08] $wgOut->setRobotpolicy( 'noindex,nofollow' ); [06:21:14] in the appropriate meta tag [06:21:39] also, you can exclude them from robots.txt to keep spider traffic down [06:21:54] eg http://en.wikipedia.org/robots.txt [06:23:01] I'm just trying to figure it out, because my wiki is running FlaggedRevs, and it doesn't appear that the draft page is being excluded from search engine results [06:23:35] *Splarka pokles AaronSchulz [06:25:13] it does seem not to be set to not index [06:25:34] however, you could probably put your script into robots.txt exclude to help out [06:30:40] that'll probably work. thanks :-). I could see that probably wanting to be in the main release though, since you don't need google indexing your aticle twice, and perhaps a bad version of it [06:33:31] Splarka: the links to the draft should be nofollow [06:33:37] hmm [06:33:48] but the draft page itself isn't ? [06:33:54] I mean, $wgOut->setRobotpolicy( 'noindex,nofollow' ); [06:33:56] must be a rogue link somewhere [06:34:10] example: http://www.theopedia.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&stable=0 [06:34:23] Splarka: I'll have to get to that soon [06:34:27] k [06:34:44] as long as it still indexes when there is no stable version [06:53:50] <_wooz> lo [06:56:45] 03aaron * r36406 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.class.php): [06:56:45] * Tweak robot policy to skip the draft [06:56:45] * Split off some code [07:01:31] nice, thanks, I got the changes now [07:02:22] did you svn up? [07:02:24] yeah [07:02:28] make sure you did all of trunk too [07:02:35] I did [07:02:59] heh, a lot of people just do one, and then ask why stuff crashes :) [07:03:09] :-) [07:03:19] how to escapce chars in mediawiki? I want to write little manual so I need to be [[Category:bla]] interpreted as plain text [07:04:10] [07:04:39] ymmotrojam: anyway, did you try $wgSimpleFlaggedRevsUI ? [07:05:07] Splarka: thx [07:06:10] nah. is that the review box that shows up at the bottom of the article? or the one that shows up at the top? [07:07:31] top corner [07:10:48] oh, so without that it just displays across the entire top of the article? [07:10:56] I just applied and it went to the corner [07:12:04] btw whats best and easies way how to deny anonymous users to edit pages. They can view them search but now edit [07:12:09] ...or create [07:14:01] !rights [07:14:01] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [07:15:02] this is also quick and easy... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#How_to_restrict_anonymous_users_from_editing_any_page [07:15:05] 03aaron * r36407 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsXML.php: Remove newline [07:17:09] hiho. A little question. I want to limit the output of my wiki to 1024 pixel. Have insert a table in my new skin with this size (), but when I insert the PHP Stuff (main page / body stuff) it will extends over 1024. Is there a way to limit the output to 1024 at all? [07:20:38] another question, is it possible to have the parser transform white spaces to %20. I am trying to craft a url to google maps in a template, but the spaces in the url are messing up the link [07:20:42] *AaronSchulz taps to destroy AvatarOfWoe [07:24:58] :) [07:27:10] ymmotrojam: is the map for making the google link to the page that transcludes it or something? [07:27:45] one sec, i'll try to get an example [07:29:04] on a sidenote though, I tried just not even bothering and turning on raw html, but I found out template variables don't work within the tags [07:30:06] http://www.theopedia.com/Image:Head_covering.jpg [07:30:12] current 16:01, 8 October 2004 112×189 (7 KB) [07:30:15] weee [07:30:39] :) [07:31:47] AvatarOfWoe: don't do that... try in monobook maybe: #globalWrapper {width:1024px; border:1px solid black;overflow:hidden;} [07:33:20] here's the wiki code [07:33:23] [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q={{#ifeq:{{{street|}}}|||{{{street}}}+}}{{#ifeq:{{{city|}}}|||{{{city}}}+}}{{#ifeq:{{{state|}}}|||{{{state}}}+}}{{#ifeq:{{{zip|}}}|||{{{zip}}}}} Google Maps] [07:35:13] basically it's just checking whether i have street, city, state, etc, but the problem is like things with the street adress "123 Hillcrest Rd", there are spaces, and that mkes it part of the link description and not the url [07:35:36] use {{urlencode:}} [07:36:13] 03(NEW) Getting IPs of User fails with PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14577 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CheckUser; (overlordq) [07:36:31] and use #if instead of #ifeq [07:37:10] yeah, urlencode [07:37:19] [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q={{#if:{{{street|}}}|{{urlencode:{{{street}}}}}+}}{{#if:{{{city|}}}|{{urlencode:{{{city}}}}}+}}{{#if:{{{state|}}}|{{urlencode:{{{state}}}}}+}}{{#if:{{{zip|}}}|{{urlencode:{{{zip}}}}}}} Google Maps] [07:37:20] @Splarka: Thanks. I will try this [07:37:29] or such [07:37:35] be sure not to urlencode the + though [07:38:02] you know, probably the + doesn't matter, since google can sort it out [07:38:36] thanks, that helps alot [07:38:46] is that this? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Urlencode [07:38:52] or is it built in [07:40:50] built in [07:40:57] 03aaron * r36408 10/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/CheckUser_body.php: * There is only cuc_ip_hex for each IP, but be explicit in clause to avoid PG errors on some installs (bug 14577) [07:41:05] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Namespaces_and_URLs [07:41:10] since 1.7 anyway [07:41:20] 03(FIXED) Getting IPs of User fails with PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14577 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [07:41:23] btw, I'm no programmer, so I probably don't know what I'm talking about, but why isn't there just a single parser functions extension? [07:41:25] thanks [07:42:38] because some are more equal than others [07:43:11] #if and family are there to prevent horrible wikicode templates, like {{qif}} [07:43:36] but some of the stringFunctions parser functions are too abusable and would just make things too complex for any human [07:44:18] so while Wikimedia devs want the main parserFunctions extension (and mostly wrote it), they don't want stringFunctions [07:44:33] or something [07:45:19] another way of putting it is... [07:45:29] anyone can write a new parserfunction in a few minutes, you can't include them *all* [07:46:42] there are several in core, like #tag, #special, #language (the 3 core ones with #), urlencode, localurl, fullurl, filepath... (basically any magic word with a parameter) [07:47:25] *Splarka wonders if that answers ymmotrojam's question [07:47:25] 03tstarling * r36409 10/trunk/extensions/ExtensionDistributor/ (ExtensionDistributor.i18n.php ExtensionDistributor_body.php): More information about how to extract and install the extension [07:47:37] good enough :) [07:47:56] thank you [07:48:00] it is sorta like saying "why aren't all images on the internet at commons.wikimedia?" [07:48:06] *Splarka grins [07:48:16] well why aren't they? [07:57:29] *faceplam* [07:57:31] *palm [07:57:50] when trying to debug an extension make sure you're looking at the right DB in phpmyadmin [07:58:50] good tip :) [07:59:18] actually it was the completely wrong DB :) should be looking at Postgres not mysql [08:03:31] another one of those "well why aren't they?" questions... how come the image namespace isn't called the file namespace? [08:06:13] for historical reasons and nobody has got to changed it yet [08:07:10] would it break links or something? [08:07:10] ymmotrojam: you can make "file" an alias for "image" [08:07:37] or better yet, image as an alias for file [08:07:45] changing the name would break links and all included images. adding an alias on wikipedia would potentially break links to pages that start with File: [08:07:49] no idea how many exist. [08:08:15] Nikerabbit: better not change the default, it only causes headaches... [08:08:46] !image [08:08:46] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "image". You might try: !colon !externalimages !imagelink !imagemagic !imagemap !images !logo !safemode !thumb !uploads [08:08:54] !images [08:08:54] --mwbot-- For instructions to use images in MediaWiki, see . For more technical details about image uploads, see and . Note that uploads are disabled per default (see !uploads). [08:08:56] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/File: [08:09:03] !image alias images [08:09:03] --mwbot-- You don't have permission to do that. [08:09:06] :| [08:09:12] same with changing your wiki name, I didn't realize what I had done until articles disappeared [08:09:37] see also: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44 -> Rename the "Image" namespace to "File" [08:10:41] what's the NS for main? 1? [08:11:16] 0 [08:11:23] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Namespace [08:11:25] odd ids are talk namesapces [08:12:55] I spy 3 pages with File: [08:13:09] yah... all redirects [08:14:09] Duesentrieb: wtf? [08:14:14] go close the bug then [08:15:17] Nikerabbit: well, what can I say... it *does* suck that it's called "image" per default. but changing the "real" name of the namespace for *existing* installations is scary. [08:15:33] So... basically there would have to be a compatibility mode or soemthing. [08:15:37] What would cause a page to lose the border around it in monobook? [08:15:45] that "something" being the reason the bug is still open [08:16:20] Duesentrieb: not really, unless someone is really using File:.. which they shouldn't... and than can be fixed too [08:16:21] Ryulong: #content {border:none;} would [08:16:25] Hmm [08:16:29] I'm not finding that on ANI [08:16:35] But I am seeing that a few threads have been shifted upwards [08:16:49] maybe [08:17:26] Nikerabbit: it should work, especially if Image: is kept as an alias. But... would File: be used for inlining images, or would we keep Image: for that? Also, i'm afraid it may screw with some extensions. [08:18:23] 03(mod) improperly closed references tag should result in an obvious error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12757 +comment (10maxsem.wiki) [08:18:38] Duesentrieb: they are already screwed if they don't respect localised aliases :o [08:18:50] Ryulong: javascript:var%20i=appendCSS('#content%20{border:1px%20solid%20red%20!important;}') [08:19:16] (see if it even shows) [08:19:23] Splarka, en:WP:ANI is missing the border somewhere at a particular thread [08:19:28] Nikerabbit: they are screwed if they don't support localizations... but aliases arn't used that often, and quite a few things don't support them. Special:Export, for one. [08:19:33] ry: link? [08:19:42] it's also 361 kb in length [08:19:53] ahh, extremely long pages sometimes have screwy styles, I find, in Mozilla [08:19:56] so prolly that [08:20:15] yeah [08:20:17] it's length [08:20:39] I removed every thread with that one and below, the page turned normal [08:20:42] ör [08:20:56] I remove the thread, the page still has no border in Firefox [08:20:58] I at least see only black if the page is too long with my custom style... [08:21:38] (don't do it but it'd be nice if one could...) make Image: an alias to File:, but leave Image: as the syntax to embed an image directly, have :Image: and File: links behave the same, and Media: retain same behavior [08:21:48] Nikerabbit: anyway... if the namespace is called File, and Image is an alias... would [[Image:...]] embed, or link, currently? [08:21:51] (and rename the namespace) [08:22:18] okay [08:22:29] so we have to manually archive some threads [08:22:38] 300 kb seems to be the limit [08:23:13] Duesentrieb: why wouldn't it embed? [08:23:24] 03(mod) Change interwiki name for Old Church Slavonic Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14537 (10oil_shtab) [08:24:36] 03(NEW) Change logo on ext.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14578 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (joseluislikebetter) [08:25:34] Nikerabbit: becaus i don't know if the code that triggers the "embed image" magic usues the "proper" way to fetch the namepsace id. [08:25:39] it should, but who knows. [08:25:52] it's a special case, and thsoe tend to be dodgy [08:29:33] Duesentrieb: I only see $ns == NS_IMAGE checks [08:30:03] if that $ns comes from Title::getNamesapce, it should be fine, then [08:32:56] 03raymond * r36410 10/trunk/extensions/ExtensionDistributor/ExtensionDistributor.i18n.php: Localisation updates German [08:34:51] demon here? [08:37:14] 03raymond * r36411 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/Names.php): * (bug 14537) Change interwiki name for Old Church Slavonic (cu) [08:37:39] 03(FIXED) Change interwiki name for Old Church Slavonic - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14537 15enhancement->normal; summary; +comment (10raimond.spekking) [08:38:20] hey guys [08:39:22] Bryan: -NickServ- Last seen : Jun 18 00:30:05 2008 (8 hours, 9 minutes, 2 seconds ago) [08:39:31] nick is: ^demon [08:39:33] he quite fucked up [08:39:49] you aren't the first to come for blood [08:41:18] 03btongminh * r36412 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Revert r36403: Breaking SVN version history [08:41:48] I have an issue [08:42:20] I have recently installed Wikimedia, and I keep getting logged out.. I have read the FAQ [08:44:36] oops [08:44:40] Mediawiki [08:45:29] !session | Jacko_ [08:45:29] --mwbot-- Jacko_: make sure session.save_path is set correctly in your php.ini. Verify that it exists, is readable and writable to PHP, and check that session data is actually being written there. On a server farm, make sure it's a shared directory, accessible from all servers. [08:45:43] also try with a different browser [08:46:11] we are with www.servage.net and they dont give you access to php.ini [08:47:28] hmm ok [08:47:34] it seems that its a Firefox issue [08:48:15] generally, if you don't have access to php.ini, you can still *check* teh values defined there, by using phpinfo. but if it's a browser issue, never mind [08:55:01] mmm [08:55:12] Bryan: demon has the bad habit of not being irc after commits :O [08:55:34] oh I have 1 more question [08:56:45] hmm ok now I fucked up my own working copy [09:01:53] 03btongminh * r36413 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (16 files in 2 dirs): Recommit r36403 with working version history hopefully: Move Search*.php to search/*.php [09:11:34] 03ashley * r36414 10/trunk/extensions/ImageTagging/img_tagging.js: [09:11:34] ImageTagging: [09:11:34] Partial revert of r36236, ended up breaking this even more. It'd be nice if this would just work on IE7 as it does on FF, but naturally nothing's that simple...not at least when it comes to IE. [09:49:30] 03ialex * r36415 10/trunk/phase3/docs/ (hooks.txt memcached.txt): Per r36375: update docs/memcached.txt [10:31:30] 03(mod) Interproject links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 (10RSYQFIOJGWZA) [10:32:00] 03(NEW) Internal error when trying to flag version - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14579 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken) [10:37:06] hi all. im running 1.10.4-39. Im trying to use the GeSHi script for syntax highlighting. but whenever i add the extension in localsettings.php. i just get blank screens when accessing mediawiki. Has anyone else had this issue? [10:39:01] 03(NEW) Internal error when trying to flag templates with unsighted imags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14580 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken) [10:39:18] Paul_UK: use the 1.10 branch of the extension [10:40:23] ialex: RELEASE_1_1_X_DEVEL/ ? [10:40:24] whats the maximum allowed edit summary? [10:41:22] Paul_UK: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ExtensionDistributor/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi and select 1.10 [10:41:25] -39? [10:41:32] is that debian or what? [10:41:48] Reedy: 255 bytes [10:42:51] Paul_UK: did you also install geshi itself? [10:43:05] Nikerabbit: i uncompressed the zip file [10:44:04] Paul_UK: which file? [10:44:55] Nikerabbit: geshi-1.0.7.22.zip [10:46:11] ok [10:46:34] ok so i have the 1.10.x files in the directory, do I still use the geshi-1.0.7.22.zip files? [10:46:59] you need both geshi extension, and geshi itself extracted under it [10:47:21] extension as in SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi.i18n.php SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi.php [10:48:54] i notice there is no class file [10:49:46] guys, thanks. I got it to work! [10:50:46] Nikerabbit, ialex: again thank you :) [10:52:12] 03(NEW) Inappropriate message if " Do not show page content below diffs" is set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14581 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken) [10:54:26] helou [11:25:47] 03(NEW) #globalWrapper class is not applied correctly when specific page content is entered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14582 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (aik) [11:26:41] 03(mod) #globalWrapper class is not applied correctly when specific page content is entered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14582 (10aik) [11:34:17] wfm.. what part of #globalWrapper is failing I wonder [11:34:43] * Now talking on #globalWrapper :P [11:53:19] !magic words [11:53:19] --mwbot-- For more information about creating magic words and their inner workings, see . For a list of magic words, please see . [11:54:53] 11:50 < archivist> jMCg, ask domas he da man at wikipedia [11:55:13] domas: 11:50 < jMCg> archivist: would you recommand InnoDB over MyISAM for MediaWiki? [11:55:24] *archivist hides [11:55:34] jMCg: depends how high load is. :) [11:55:38] and transactions and such [11:56:38] and what version :)) [11:56:57] *flyingparchment would never use myisam for anything non-trivial [11:57:16] although as MW doesn't use foreign key constraints, it's still possible to get a corrupt database in innodb [11:59:11] MySQL 5.0.48 or something along the lines. PHP 5.2.5. MediaWiki soon to be updated to latest stable, which is why I'm here, because I'd like to get this charset/encoding/fuckage issue out of the way. [12:22:12] 03(mod) Unicode normalization "sorts" Hebrew and Arabic vowels wrongly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2399 (10rotemliss) [12:24:05] Completely off-topic - would anyone know if there is an IRC channel where tiddlywiki is discussed? (tiddlywiki.com - save the file and you have a local editable wiki). Thanks/sorry. [12:31:27] How do I change the TOC direction? [12:31:37] I want it rtl and not ltr [12:32:03] it should be rtl is everything else is rtl [12:32:25] or you could try wrapping it in div/span that is rtl [12:32:34] warpping what? [12:32:42] TOC isn't displayed in the edit page [12:32:49] and I want it rtl by default [12:33:16] __TOC__ [12:33:39] *SpeedEvil waves in thanks. [12:33:43] 03(mod) Internal error when trying to flag version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14579 (10tim) [12:33:58] yes well, I'm not going to add __TOC__ [12:34:01] on every page [12:34:06] Dor: why isn't your wiki rtl then? [12:34:17] That's the thing [12:34:20] it is rtl [12:34:22] it's hebrew [12:34:29] which is displayed rtl [12:34:37] seemingly, no one told that to the TOC [12:34:43] it appears on the right [12:34:49] but the text is aligned to the left [12:35:13] Dor: is the language actually configured as hebrew or did you just write hebrew in the pages? [12:35:59] because it looks fine here: http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94 [12:36:34] flyingparchment, langauge is set to hebrew [12:36:38] hey flyingparchment [12:36:40] on my preferences page [12:37:01] i don't know if preferences is enough to make the wiki itself rtl [12:37:14] ContLang v. Lang [12:37:20] yeah [12:37:24] you need to set $wgLanguageCode [12:38:02] It's a wikia wiki [12:38:10] is it still possible to do it? :P [12:38:12] ask wikia to do it then [12:38:14] you need to ask the Wikia people. [12:38:22] perhaps ask the wikia people? [12:38:40] oh [12:38:48] I didn't find any hacks for fixing toc in hewikis css' [12:38:50] still, isn't it possible to do it myself? [12:39:05] no, you need someone who can change the default language of the wiki [12:39:06] no [12:39:14] dou' [12:39:16] ok [12:39:17] thanks :) [12:39:52] oh yes [12:39:58] maybe one of you guys know [12:40:07] www.mirc-il.com/wiki/ [12:40:16] what do you see? [12:40:17] that doesn't look like a wikia wiki. [12:40:24] no [12:40:26] that's another one [12:40:29] 500 error [12:40:31] true [12:40:41] I downloaded the MediaWiki file [12:40:43] unzipped [12:40:47] and uploaded it to my server [12:40:59] what might be causing this? [12:41:08] look at the php/apache error log [12:41:12] it's a shared host btw [12:41:14] anything, check the logs [12:41:16] it's impossible to diagnose from just that error [12:41:20] then ask the host to look at the logs [12:41:27] what might cause it? [12:41:32] anything [12:41:34] isn't it a common problem? [12:41:38] all that means is "there is an error" [12:41:45] it's impossible to know what the problem is without seeing the real error [12:41:48] which is in the error log [12:41:59] well, but I just uploaded the files, did [12:42:09] didn't this happen to anyone before?* [12:42:10] you have two choices [12:42:17] a) argue on #mediawiki about this for another week [12:42:19] yes, [12:42:22] b) ask the host to look at the error log [12:42:24] xD [12:42:29] didn't this happen to anyone before? [12:42:37] yes, and anyone looked at the error log [12:42:45] ;P [12:42:52] well, I'll try to reupload it for now [12:42:59] all I can do now [12:43:05] the host is away btw [12:46:16] can anyone tell me where can I find a tutorial for making infoboxes? [12:48:03] also I don't know where can I change the option, that you have to first preview the article, thean Submit [12:49:28] seems to work fine in monobook skin [12:49:37] Bodzio, info boxes? [12:50:00] yes [12:50:35] ummm [12:50:42] hi [12:50:42] and the second thing is I would like to disable the "submit" button, they have to hit "preview" first [12:51:02] try to look at an infobox template and understand the code [12:51:06] it's basically a table [12:51:10] I tried to look in to the wikipedia.org infoboxes code but It's all very complicated [12:51:21] *Sasa^Stefanovic off [12:51:35] true [12:51:46] basically an infobox is a table [12:52:08] with dozens of template in a template etc. [12:52:18] not really [12:52:22] do you know how to make templates? [12:53:15] Bodzio, ? [12:54:20] yep [12:54:30] I am trying to make a infobox now... [12:55:01] okay [12:55:04] do you know how to use [12:55:07] {{{parameter}}} [12:55:08] ? [12:55:29] hey, I almost did it [12:55:51] hmm? [12:56:14] I tried and tried and it looks good, only few changes needed [12:57:01] okay [12:57:03] good luck :) [13:10:43] 03(mod) Moving subpages doesn' t move subpages that have nonexistent parents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14575 normal->minor; summary; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [13:13:28] 03(mod) irc channel for el wikiversity rc missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13948 (10N/A) [13:22:59] 03(FIXED) centralauth_Session cookie should not be persistent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14564 +comment (10Andrew) [13:37:22] Is it possible to not include Log messages (Upload Log, protection Log) from Special:Recentchanges ? [13:39:12] 03(mod) Moving subpages doesn' t move subpages that have nonexistent parents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14575 +comment (10darklama) [13:45:54] 14(WFM) Moving subpages doesn' t move subpages that have nonexistent parents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14575 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [13:48:30] 03aaron * r36416 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.class.php): [13:48:30] * Fix inconsistency when diff-only pref set (bug 14581) [13:48:30] * Load css for diff [13:48:30] * Move function [14:03:36] 03aaron * r36417 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php language/FlaggedRevs.i18n.php): Add some UI here (1 message added) [14:03:52] 03(FIXED) Inappropriate message if "Do not show page content below diffs" is set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14581 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [14:23:00] 03(FIXED) Move all core special pages to a subfolder of includes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14316 +comment (10seventowers) [14:23:44] 03raymond * r36418 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Localisation updates German [14:30:04] helllllo [14:39:31] 03aaron * r36419 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.class.php: Ignore non-images in hook [14:39:38] 03(mod) PATCH - moving Wikimedia only stuff from LanguageCs. php to InitialiseSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14294 (10danny.b) [14:39:54] 03(FIXED) Internal error when trying to flag version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14579 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [14:45:46] 03(mod) Activate write API on production wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14210 (10happy_melon) [14:47:58] 03(mod) Internal error when trying to flag pages with random images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14580 summary (10JSchulz_4587) [14:50:05] 03(mod) Internal error when trying to flag pages with random images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14580 (10JSchulz_4587) [15:04:52] 03(mod) Moving subpages doesn' t move subpages that have nonexistent parents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14575 (10mike.lifeguard) [15:25:57] 04(REOPENED) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 (10alefzet) [15:27:37] 03(mod) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 +comment (10alefzet) [15:28:33] hello [15:29:02] i'm trying to move my wiki to a new site...i exported the database and restored the dump, but now mediawiki makes PHP segfault when i use the database [15:32:50] any ideas? [15:33:53] 03(NEW) "Limit to categories" feature doesn't work since r36376 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14583 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (robin_1273) [15:41:00] if I have a backup of a MySQL database from 1.11, and I install a new 1.11, I can import the old database into the new and have all the articles appear, right? [15:41:12] sure [15:41:24] would the old wiki being 1.11.0 and the new being 1.11.2 make a difference? [15:41:29] nope [15:41:32] cool [15:41:46] would i be able to have the new wiki be 1.12, or no? [15:41:49] i would guess no [15:42:27] am i right, that I can't take a 1.11.0 database and put it into 1.12 and expect it work? [15:42:51] you are right [15:42:56] alright. thank you. [16:05:14] any of the api hackers about? [16:24:00] 03(NEW) New API to give latest dump file release - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14584 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (hippytrail) [16:27:43] 03yaron * r36421 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/languages/SF_LanguageZh_cn.php: Removed unnecessary newlines [16:27:51] 03yaron * r36422 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_ParserFunctions.php: [16:27:51] Added explicit setting of 'noparse' and 'isHTML' flag to array map functions, [16:27:51] to work with MediaWiki 1.12 [16:27:52] 03yaron * r36423 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormInputs.inc: Fixed handling of autocompletion on main namespace [16:27:55] 03yaron * r36424 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_AutocompleteAPI.php: Fixed handling of autocompletion on main namespace [16:28:12] 03yaron * r36425 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php: [16:28:12] Fixed remote autocompletion of namespaces to complete on the beginning of [16:28:12] every word, not just the beginning of the whole string [16:28:26] 03tstarling * r36420 10/trunk/tools/invoice-generator/ (. conf.php.sample crontab invoice.php invoice.tpl): Wikimedia invoice generator for full-time permanent "contractors". [16:28:32] 03yaron * r36426 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/INSTALL: New version: 1.2.4 [16:28:48] woo it worked! [16:35:21] is there some sort of extension or something to allow mediawiki to pull data from a mysql/whatever database and show the data as searchable and/or in a data-table? [16:36:08] http://www.wikinvest.com/ Those guys do something sort of similar to that. [16:36:58] LauraHale: was that to me? [16:48:17] *AaronSchulz enjoyed watching the Boxer v Garimto finals [16:50:25] anyone used http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DataTable ? [16:51:09] 03(mod) Wrong direction in editing/showing fractions (math) including Persian digits in Internet Explorer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4604 +comment (10meno25wiki) [16:51:45] 03(FIXED) Wrong direction in editing/showing fractions (math) including Persian digits in Internet Explorer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4604 (10meno25wiki) [16:53:25] *^demon|away kicks CIA-53 [16:53:26] ow [16:54:47] Hi guys, is anyone here familiar with backing up a wiki? [16:55:44] the files or the database? or both? [16:56:46] 03(mod) Allow localization of the phrase "ISBN" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13335 (10meno25wiki) [16:58:05] 03demon * r36427 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/ (Newpages.php Watchlist.php): A few useless require()'s lying around. [17:00:40] My host backs it up for me. [17:08:19] anyone know if it's possible to use $wgEmailConfirmToEdit without actually blocking anons? Last time I tried it, it wouldn't allow anons because obviously they don't have an email [17:08:38] I just want registered users to have to have confirmed accounts [17:09:08] 03(FIXED) Long edit summary overlaps with sidebar for RTL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9004 +comment (10meno25wiki) [17:11:15] aaron_big_noob: yup, i just did it yesterday [17:11:28] for the files, just FTP them to a backup location [17:12:15] for my database, I actually did multiple backups using different methods, the one that I know works (because I used it to restore my database today after I messed stuff up yesterday) is to export in phpMyAdmin, if you can [17:13:01] what i do is tar them, stick them in a web accessible location, and get them that way. I can then download to my pc, or wget them to another server [17:16:51] 03yaron * r36428 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_ParserFunctions.php: Undoing changes [17:24:39] 03(mod) Configure groups in nowiki for access to Special:Unwatchedpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14079 (10herman) [17:39:18] 03(mod) Localization of some special pages in Arabic - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10502 (10meno25wiki) [17:51:01] HI. [17:52:56] I have some trouble with creating valid feeds in MediaWiki. Does somebody has some experience with that? [17:57:17] Hi guys, is there anyone here familiar with backing up a wiki? [17:58:22] I tried to use the extension News_Channel to create a feed (RSS or Atom) which is shown in the right way in Firefox, but won't load in Safari or NewsNetWire [17:59:48] Is backing up the wiki folder on my server a sufficient backup ? [18:00:35] no [18:00:39] aaron: no, you'll need to make a backup of the database as well [18:01:19] How do I find where that is saved? [18:01:24] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [18:01:51] @aaron you have to access the database, if you're using mysql then you need to follow the steps to back up a mysql database [18:02:13] btw. does anyone know the quickest way to see what version a media wiki is running? [18:02:24] Special:Version :) [18:02:25] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Backup [18:02:51] @Mike thanks [18:04:38] repeating question.... anyone know if it's possible to use $wgEmailConfirmToEdit without actually blocking anons? Last time I tried it, it wouldn't allow anons because obviously they don't have an email. I just want registered users to have to have confirmed accounts [18:04:51] Thanks guys, I've seen those articles but, being very new to the server world, it wasn't super clear to me. [18:04:59] has anyone had issues with caching and the client's ip address showing up as the web server? I have checked my x-forwarded-for within debug logs and they are correct, but the client IP is showing up as the webservers IP [18:05:06] @aaron are you using mysql? [18:05:34] Where may I find information about how the feed functionality of mediawiki works? I searched mediawiki.org but didn't find anything useful. [18:05:47] @Roning Yes, the wiki is running on a fresh install of ubuntu server. [18:06:01] and using mysql [18:06:42] 03(mod) Localization of some special pages in Arabic - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10502 +comment (10meno25wiki) [18:07:59] @aaron ok, it's pretty easy to do. You can use a mysql administrator app or from the command line: $ mysqldump -h localhost -u username -p database_name > backup_db.sql [18:08:30] @aaron the database name and all that stuff will be in your localsettings.php [18:09:21] @Ronin Okay, I have that info. Let me give it a shot! [18:10:25] 03aaron * r36429 10/trunk/phase3/includes/User.php: Remove ugly IP code duplication [18:13:29] I'm getting a "access denied" message. It says "Got error: 1044: Access denied for user 'username'@'localhost' to database 'database_name' when using LOCK TABLES" [18:14:34] I definitely have the username and db_name correct. [18:14:59] @aaron is your wiki stored on your computer? ie localhost? [18:15:43] @aaron or are you sshing in? [18:15:44] Yes, it's stored on a server running ubuntu server. I'm chatting on my mac, but I'm typing the commands directly on the server. [18:16:03] Right now, I'm not sshing in. [18:16:16] @aaron, ok try using the mysql admin account to make the backup [18:16:29] @aaron instead of your wikiuser [18:16:40] Okay Ronin. [18:17:42] That seems to have worked! [18:17:44] @aaron usually when I setup a new mysql user I give them global access and grant full access on a specific database. I would guess that you have given your wiki mysql user only partial access [18:17:47] It accepted the command at least. [18:18:11] @aaron you should see a new file created in the directory where you are sitting [18:18:13] Oh yeah, I see it. [18:18:23] So what exactly is in that file? [18:18:28] your database [18:18:43] so if your database gets hosed you can restore it from that file [18:18:53] If, my server dies could I restore my wiki using the backed up wiki folder and that backed-up database? [18:19:08] correct [18:19:16] you may want to install mysql administrator [18:19:43] Okay, what will that allow me to do? [18:19:52] its a GUI and there is a version for Mac http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/gui-tools/5.0.html [18:20:05] basically manage backups and stuff [18:20:12] Oh cool! [18:20:28] its really easy to use. You just need to make sure you setup a user that can access the mysql server remotely, or at least only on your ip [18:20:41] I can access it through ssh. [18:20:45] Same thing? [18:20:49] or you could always setup an SSH tunnel to the server and keep the mysql user rights the same.. [18:21:01] no, shen you ssh onto the machine you act as a user sitting there [18:21:19] I would guess that your admin account is limited to localhost access only [18:21:40] that's generally a good thing, but if your ip doesn't change much then you could make it accessible remotely on a single ip [18:22:11] Okay, yeah we have static IP's assigned in my lab. [18:22:45] Clearly I need to learn more about this stuff. Any book recommendations that are useful references? [18:23:18] ::shrug:: I just use google a lot. I've never read any books on any of this [18:24:34] I sent you a direct msg with my contact if you need it [18:24:37] I gtg though, later [18:24:39] Oh okay, google has gotten me this far. But I installed this on our lab's really really old server and it's definitely about to die, so backing up became a priority. [18:24:44] Thanks so much Ronin! [18:24:57] no worries :) [18:26:12] can I integrate some of my cgi scripts in to mediawiki? is there a process for that? [18:26:29] I just want to wrap them inside a wiki page [18:33:22] anyone here interested in testing a perl module for accessing mediawiki via the API ? [18:36:23] 03shinjiman * r36430 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Old/Late Time Chinese [18:37:19] I'm using mw1.11svn; are the username restrictions still the same as the pagename restrictions? [18:37:44] I read that this in not necessarily so. [18:39:26] exobuzz: how does the module work? [18:39:42] *blue_asterisk isn't a perl guy [18:40:02] it interfaces with the mediawiki api.php. if your not a perl guy, you probably won't be interested in testing it.. [18:40:09] it is for writing bots etc in perl and so on [18:40:38] oh, well, I was wondering if you had to set cookies and such [18:40:39] i wrote it as a replacement for http://search.cpan.org/~spectrum/MediaWiki-1.13/lib/MediaWiki.pm which seems to be rather unmaintained these days and has critical bugs [18:40:54] yes. it requires cookies for login which is one of hte thing the module handles [18:41:50] I'm working on a userlogin bridge between a forum and mediawiki [18:42:23] which forum ? [18:42:41] so far it works, but since it is cross domain, it does not automatically remember logins between the sites [18:42:45] vbulletin [18:43:07] 03shinjiman * r36431 10/trunk/extensions/Cite/Cite_body.php: [18:43:07] * (bug 14216) Grouping references link displays are urlencoded instead rendering the normal text [18:43:07] patch by fdcn [18:43:28] I think I can get around this by using hooks [18:43:35] 03(FIXED) Grouping references does not support DBCS characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14216 +patch; +comment (10shinjiman) [18:44:30] is it possible to use $wgEmailConfirmToEdit without actually blocking anons? Last time I tried it, it wouldn't allow anons because obviously they don't have an email. I just want registered users to have to have confirmed accounts [18:45:57] anyone know what in the world this is: $text= << exobuzz: do you happen to know if the user naming convention is the same as the page naming convention? [18:46:57] hi, can i write on the left and on the right side of a line at the same time? e.g. [18:46:57] box content Link [18:46:57] box content2 Link2 [18:47:03] oops [18:47:32] Wiredtape: it is php's "heredoc" notation. [18:48:03] Wiredtape: http://us.php.net/types.string [18:48:07] blue_asterisk : thanks! :) [18:48:59] blue_asterisk: there is some info on the http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PHPBB/Users_Integration#Usernames_rules page about usernames with regards to phpbb integration. maybe a start [18:50:03] exobuzz: yes, but I read that appearently there was change in the user naming convention [18:50:06] let me look [18:52:15] my guess is that the user naming convention is identical to the page naming convention since mw users each have their own page [18:53:10] I however read otherwise though I was wondering if by chance the naming convention was modified [18:55:19] mwbot: documentation [18:57:11] !documentation [18:57:11] --mwbot-- An overview of available documentation about MediaWiki can be found at [18:58:02] 03(NEW) wikibits/insertTags issue on Opera 9.5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14585 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (pcooper) [18:58:36] how do i create a translation of a mediawiki page in another language? [19:00:21] Duesentrieb: do you happen to know if the user naming convention is the same as the page naming convention? I read that this was not necessarily so [19:01:01] a user name must be a valid page name (once spaces have been replaced with _) [19:01:07] i don't think there's a way around that [19:01:29] ok thanks, just verifying [19:06:07] AaronSchulz, is there a script to review all pages for FlaggedRevs? [19:06:23] yeah [19:08:36] arg, seems the Bad Behaviour extension always gets in the way whenever php scripts are run from the cli [19:10:29] AaronShulz, how come when I run the script without any params, it gives directions for refreshLinks.php? [19:12:09] by the way, you are referring to FlaggedRevs/maintenance/reviewAllPages.php, correct? [19:14:03] 03aaron * r36432 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/maintenance/reviewAllPages.php: Fix help display so it has the write file name [19:15:49] thanks :) [19:16:54] ymmotrojam: ugh, *right [19:17:06] obviously not getting a break today am I? ;) [19:17:15] I was going to say that, but I refrained ;-) [19:21:19] AaronSchulz, what's the exact syntax to use it? "php reviewAllPages.php " or without the < and > [19:21:49] oh, got it [19:21:51] :) [19:21:58] how do i get links of the form [[languageCode: Some Article]] to show up in the language toolbar on the left, like wikipedia? [19:22:00] I was putting in my username [19:22:04] not the id [19:22:09] e.g. [[fr: Platon]] [19:23:05] 03aaron * r36433 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/maintenance/reviewAllPages.php: Make more user friendly [19:23:28] hehe, thanks again [19:24:00] ymmotrojam: it used to be name [19:24:10] but that makes utf stuff a pain [19:24:18] didn't feel like dealing with that ;) [19:24:26] yeah, understandable [19:25:25] so how long do you think until Wikipedia adopts FlaggedRevs? [19:28:50] the German one has had it for weeks [19:29:02] any other version/project can follow [19:29:55] I'm guessing that they'll use the most inconspicuous settings so as to not change things too much when it actually goes live on the english pedia? [19:32:39] *if* it goes on there, yeah [19:35:04] 03(mod) New API to give latest dump file release - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14584 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [19:35:31] 03(mod) Creating new Page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14571 (10dasch_87) [19:38:08] AaronSchulz, who would be the right person for this question? is it possible to use $wgEmailConfirmToEdit without actually blocking anons? Last time I tried it, it wouldn't allow anons because obviously they don't have an email. I just want registered users to have to have confirmed accounts [19:38:53] what do you mean confirmed accounts ? [19:39:03] granting them a right or something? [19:39:31] well, that variable requires them to have confirmed email addresses [19:39:43] can anyone help with a strange rendering on a page: http://www.ourmed.org [19:39:58] that's what I meant :) [19:40:06] i read up on short url issues, but can't seem to find the problem [19:40:51] ymmotrojam: so they sign up for an account, and then *lost* rights? ;) [19:41:03] or *lose I should say [19:43:13] I guess you could see it that way ;). I'm just thinking, it's another way to help prevent bots from creating accounts... and although i need it for that because I've got other protection in place, it seems blocking anons and requiring email verification should be two separate things [19:43:13] what is with this wiki? :i [19:43:17] install a skin [19:43:18] !rewriteproblems | Vishal [19:43:18] --mwbot-- Vishal: 1) Try as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root. [19:43:35] * I don't need it for that reason [19:44:36] Dor: it's not possible to not have a skin. [19:44:37] the problem is much more likely that he's rewriting the pathes to the skins's static files [19:44:37] which is one of the things that happen when you rewrite the document root [19:44:37] which is why YOU SHOULD NOT DO THAT. [19:44:39] Vishal: ---^ [19:45:31] AaronSchulz: maybe even change it so you enter an array of user groups... but at that point it might be becoming an extension, I don't know [19:45:34] ah, not quite, but pretty close [19:45:37] Vishal: http://www.ourmed.org/wiki/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&usemsgcache=yes&action=raw&ctype=text/css&smaxage=18000 [19:45:45] find out why access is denied to that. [19:46:13] wiki/index.php *should* be the primary entry point [19:46:16] it should not be rewritten [19:47:28] ok [19:47:29] thanks [19:50:31] btw, AaronShulz, the reviewing all pages is going really slow. I mean I am on dreamhost for one of my sites (not theopedia) which may be the issue ;) (one day I'll have money for a real host) [19:55:13] ok, I changed back the document root to what it was --> "/var/www" [19:57:19] same problem [19:57:23] and its under /wiki [19:57:59] so i should rename the directory to w [20:05:56] 03(mod) The amount of articles in Chinese Wikipedia is counted incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14553 (10N/A) [20:06:29] 03(mod) SQL Error on Type Namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14543 (10dasch_87) [20:07:26] hi, is there a possibility to give only registred users the permission to read a page? [20:08:48] 03(NEW) Inputbox Always includes Main namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14586 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Inputbox; (pmoors) [20:10:50] 03(mod) Creating new Page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14571 (10yaron57) [20:16:59] !wg GroupPermissions | hoio [20:16:59] --mwbot-- hoio: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgGroupPermissions [20:17:59] oh thanks! [20:30:49] Does anyone have any idea why I'm able to send emails using php to my gmail account but not to my school email account? [20:31:16] is there also a way to blacklist some pages like $wgWhitelistRead but on the reverse way? [20:31:33] hoio, try $wgBlacklistRead [20:31:46] aaron_big_noob, the school email account blocks your mails [20:31:50] I've set up a private wiki for my lab, and it's unable to send confirmation emails to our school addresses, which is annoying... [20:31:53] aaron_big_noob: school filter [20:32:24] What exactly do you think it is filtering? I can make the from address anything, right? [20:33:39] may be the filter thinks it's spam because of the link ?! [20:34:21] hoio, maybe [20:34:30] aaron_big_noob, maybe* [20:34:39] hoio, did it work? [20:35:11] unfortunately there isn't an option $wgBlacklistRead [20:35:38] Do emails sent from php have some specific signature that's blockable? It's problematic if someone forgets their password because wikimedia sends a new one via email! [20:36:16] So I don't know what to do about that.... [20:37:43] go to the school-administrator and tell him to put the wikimailadress on a whitelist [20:42:10] @hoio, but I can make the 'from address' anything I want. When I set it to an address with the same suffix as our school emails it still doesn't work. So I'm not sure what it's filtering out exactly... [20:44:11] aaron_big_noob, 1. try to send a regular email [20:44:16] and then copy it directly [20:44:43] 2. the suffix must match your SMTP server name [20:44:43] @dor, I'm not sure I follow... [20:44:50] okay [20:44:57] send an email for example [20:45:00] from your gmail [20:45:04] to your school [20:45:07] then in gmail [20:45:11] find the source [20:45:20] and copy it [20:45:24] 03ialex * r36434 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (AutoLoader.php SpecialPage.php specials/Newpages.php): Made NewpagesForm extends SpecialPage and renamed it to SpecialNewpages [20:45:29] send exactly that in the php mail [20:46:20] okay, I will try that. [20:46:22] including all the header stuff etc [20:46:25] <^demon> From PHP.net: The problem here is if we send mails using php mail function we do not have a signature and other mailing systems thinks that we are spamers. [20:46:36] <^demon> (Possible issue?) [20:46:46] Oh @demon, that seems like it could be it. [20:47:09] So @dor, do you think maybe adding the headers will provide that signature? [20:54:07] When I recalculate user edit counts (initEditCount) using Extension:Maintenance, I get the following: Fatal error: Call to undefined function wfGetLB() in /w/extensions/Maintenance/Maintenance_body.php on line 408. Is this something to do with the extension, or a different snafu? [20:54:37] is there anything that would make one VPS hosting service better than another, in terms of MediaWiki's abilities to perform fast and such? [20:55:28] Sasoriza: this function is only in 1.13 [20:55:43] use an older version of the extension [20:55:50] hmm.. ok... gotta run, back in a bit [20:56:54] 03(NEW) Logout as non global user shows wrong message and missing images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14587 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (raimond.spekking) [20:58:54] Sas-away: use this version: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Maintenance/?pathrev=35008 [21:01:38] Sas-away: OR you could upgrade to mediawiki 1.13alpha [21:02:20] Hello & evening :) [21:03:41] Does anybody know what is the setting in main.css from monobook to set the text-align for all news information to the left instead of center? [21:17:07] Does anybody know what is the setting in main.css from monobook to set the text-align for all news information to the left instead of center? [21:18:20] "news information" ? [21:19:49] oehm :) [21:20:05] the informations. body? [21:20:19] all the information stuff :) [21:23:28] things that should be centered are the sitenotice, table of contents title, thumbnail innards, search, footer, gallery headers, and things in objects classed "center" and "mw-warning" (and a few esoteric classes) [21:23:37] do you mean sitenotices? [21:30:46] yes. must be the sitenotices [21:31:14] #siteNotice { [21:31:14] text-align: center; [21:31:40] is the part in main.css you mean then [21:32:01] yep. i want it to the left [21:32:01] Splarka: want to beta test my perl api module? :) (yeh i know. boring :D ) [21:32:24] nope, gots no perl (no, I won't install one either) [21:32:33] i wouldnt have asked :) [21:33:22] ah. now it works. damn cache :) [21:33:28] exobuzz: what's the bot userful for? [21:33:46] blue_asterisk: it isn't a bot.. it's just an interface for developing such things [21:34:00] (in the perl language) [21:34:17] I guess I'm after what api it provides [21:34:35] i can have link [21:34:36] ? [21:34:46] everything which api.php provides + file uploads (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API) [21:35:07] *blue_asterisk looks [21:35:29] svn co https://svn.exotica.org.uk/svndav/exotica/mediawikiapi/trunk [21:35:56] still writing the documentation etc, but its getting there. of course im waiting patiently for a cpan account.. they are slow [21:36:17] somebody help me: PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function wfinigetbool() in /home/grupogen/public_html/gnu/wiki/config/index.php on line 328 [21:36:27] o really? [21:37:03] hell I got a PAUSE id but I havent contributed anything in the 5-6 years I've had it lol [21:37:08] :) [21:37:27] interesting [21:37:59] now to try and remember what the pw is [21:38:08] not any use for me yet.. I'm not set up to test it either, sorry [21:38:34] np.. [21:38:49] im writing some testsuite stuff. but its way boring .. [21:38:55] :) [21:39:04] *OverlordQ goes to upload the cpan :P [21:39:07] *to [21:40:09] if you upload it to cpan, then I wont be able to update it.. might as well wait until my account is open ;-) [21:40:47] actually you can specify a co-maintainer [21:41:11] ok. [21:41:48] you can even give up ownership :) [21:45:50] 03(mod) Moving subpages doesn' t move subpages that have nonexistent parents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14575 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [21:48:21] oh well, if they take too long just give a holler and I'll up it and give you owner once they finally do. [21:48:29] thanks.. [21:48:52] in the meantime ive made http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/User:BuZz/MediaWiki::API which ill link to from the mediawiki api area [22:05:11] <^demon> No CIA? O.o [22:05:51] is this a bug? on [[Special:Log/move]] links to talk pages are missing class="mw-redirect" [22:09:10] <^demon> AlexSm: What's the system message for move log entries? [22:09:40] <^demon> Found it :-P [22:10:11] I don't think the redirect class is created by a system message ... [22:11:16] 03(mod) Increase Commons file size upload limit to 40MB - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12595 +comment (10yann) [22:11:25] <^demon> Knowing a used system message helps you find the spot in the code if you're not sure 100%. It's how I do it at least... [22:14:21] 03(NEW) Logo of kaa.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14588 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (cradel) [22:21:33] 03demon * r36435 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ChangesList.php: Redirects in logs, rc, etc. should have mw-redirect applied. [22:21:53] <^demon> AlexSm: Fixed. ^ [22:25:05] ehm... [22:28:32] 03(NEW) removing all flags of an article still lists an article on the list of Outdated reviewed pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14589 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (Complexwikipedia) [22:31:29] is it possible to add custom text+links to the footer? [22:35:09] You could edit the skin of your wiki [22:37:22] akjohnson: hm was hoping for something more elegant, but that might be my only option [22:38:24] 03(mod) Increase Commons file size upload limit to 40MB - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12595 +comment (10jayvdb) [22:38:33] 03(mod) Logo of kaa.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14588 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [22:43:07] 03(mod) Creating new Page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14571 (10dasch_87) [22:50:22] 03(mod) Creating new Page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14571 (10yaron57) [22:59:52] 03demon * r36436 10/trunk/extensions/NetworkAuth/NetworkAuth.php: Lazy-load messages. No need to initialize those on every single pageload. [23:16:39] <^demon> Out of curiosity, why must $wgShowIPinHeader be set to false for HTMLFileCache to work? I see it set in Article.php, but I'm unsure why it would require that. [23:18:09] ^demon: otherwise the cache will be overrode everytime it checks your IP [23:18:15] *Alexfusco5 guesses [23:20:00] <^demon> I guess that makes sense. [23:22:10] dammit [23:23:05] Hey Splarka, thanks for the help (you buzzed before I could thank ya) [23:23:21] sleep sometimes wins [23:23:45] usually does... it's the unbeatable foe [23:24:17] supposed to be testing a new drug to eliminate sleep, or something like that [23:24:31] and dreams? [23:24:36] *Sasoriza shrugs [23:25:53] is 1.13 actually available yet? [23:26:03] released I mean [23:27:43] guess not [23:30:46] Alexfusco5, how'd you get it [23:31:14] Sasoriza: run this command\ [23:31:36] svn co http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/phase3 [23:32:43] ^demon: why do you want the IP, out of counter-curiousity? [23:34:34] hey, i have two questions: 1) is there a way to verify that page was created successfully in an extension? 2) what's the function that's called when saving a page? [23:37:36] <^demon> Splarka: No real reason. Was just like "Hmmm, that's an odd dependency." [23:38:03] too bad there is no reliable javascript method [23:38:23] but you could always put up a [[Special:Mypage|Me]] [[Special:Mytalk|my talk]] in there [23:38:43] <^demon> True, but useless. [23:39:02] more useless than the IP itself? [23:40:33] <^demon> Not really no :-P [23:40:37] http://species.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=userinfo&callback+whatismyIP&format=jsonfm [23:40:48] (although that would have to hit the api every time you wanted it...) [23:41:12] er [23:41:15] http://species.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=userinfo&callback=whatismyIP&format=jsonfm [23:41:21] +/= [23:41:49] <^demon> Add an IP in the header at the cost of an extra API hit per anon-view? Bah, I say. [23:41:50] it works for logged in users too, as callback negates any logged in information [23:42:02] *Splarka ponders if that is a beans [23:42:31] <^demon> I mean, if you wanna start stuffing, go right ahead. :-P [23:42:32] (although you can run a poorman's checkuser with site-wide css) [23:43:03] no one? :P [23:43:28] Bfhappy: scrape through http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks for #2 [23:44:03] 1. what extension? [23:44:50] Splarka: thanks.. [23:45:02] Sasoriza: an adjustment i'm making to SemanticForms [23:45:21] << little experience with semantics [23:45:32] Sasoriza: and for some reason, i just can't find where it is actually saving a page.. (no semantics involved) :) [23:45:45] *Bfhappy is Wiredtape [23:45:56] *Sasoriza waves [23:46:06] hey.. (and to you too Splarka) [23:46:09] sorry, Isa no help [23:46:43] every time I see 'semantic' I think Semantic Wiki and draw a blank [23:46:52] np.. i'm just dumbfounded... [23:47:19] could it be that the "save page" button in the wiki has it's own js code that allows actual saving? [23:47:31] cause it's set to post.. but it doesn't specify anything else.. [23:50:37] <^demon> Bfhappy: Is this just on saving a page? Or any form of cache invalidation? [23:52:24] ^demon: not sure that I understood the question.. [23:53:46] <^demon> Like, are you looking for when you press edit->save, or when a template's been updated and then the page it's on updates too? [23:54:56] ^demon: i'm looking for when you press edit->save... [23:55:01] <^demon> The hook "ArticleSave" or "ArticleSaveComplete" is what you want then. [23:56:11] ^demon, only I don't want a hook.. because I need SemanticForms (the extension i'm editing) version of a saved page... so i'm looking for the actual code in article class or title class (which ever one creates and actual article save.. or is it revision class?) [23:56:33] s/and/an [23:58:12] <^demon> You're looking for the code in Article::doEdit(). Starts on line 1370 of Article.php [23:59:06] ^demon: thanks :) [23:59:25] <^demon> No problem. It's only like 190 lines. :-P