[00:00:36] So that's nothing like Extension:CreateBox? [00:02:08] ^demon: hehe.. unfrotunately i don't have to read it all (and Sasoriza i don't think it is.. i think createbox only uses that code) [00:03:12] s/unfortunately/fortunately [01:06:49] 03aaron * r36437 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.class.php FlaggedRevsPage.php): [01:06:49] * Clear dead flaggedpages links (bug 14589) [01:06:49] * Be less strict on template reviewing (bug 14580) [01:06:58] 03(mod) removing all flags of an article still lists an article on the list of Outdated reviewed pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14589 (10JSchulz_4587) [01:07:07] 03(FIXED) removing all flags of an article still lists an article on the list of Outdated reviewed pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14589 (10JSchulz_4587) [01:07:33] 03(mod) Internal error when trying to flag pages with random images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14580 (10JSchulz_4587) [01:08:04] 03(FIXED) Internal error when trying to flag pages with random images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14580 (10JSchulz_4587) [01:08:45] Is there a page, or, a way to get Special:Imagelist to show the thumbs rather than just a textual link? [01:13:06] there is Special:Newimages .. [01:14:00] that works just as well, thanks [01:23:59] tekmosis: what version of mediawiki is this for? [01:33:32] Splarka, 1.12 [01:34:52] you could use a simple javascript to do something similar [01:35:34] wouldn't be perfect though [01:35:53] The Special:Newimages page does what I need. I just wasn't aware of that page, didn't see it in the special pages list [01:36:07] ahh k [01:39:51] here is what the js could look like: http://p.defau.lt/?WI7Mibzq1oC9UVId_U8tvA [01:40:04] (would break on any images smaller than 100px already, though... no easy way around that) [01:51:22] is Joerg Baach in here? [02:50:57] /mode +b [03:14:18] 03demon * r36438 10/trunk/phase3/ (docs/hooks.txt includes/EditPage.php): Hooks EditFilter and EditFilter complete got a new param (edit summary), docs updated with this. [03:14:46] 03demon * r36439 10/trunk/extensions/SpamBlacklist/ (SpamBlacklist.php SpamBlacklist_body.php): And now SpamBlacklist checks the edit summary field. [03:16:03] 03(mod) Expand spam blacklist to include edit and other summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13599 +comment (10innocentkiller) [03:16:16] ^demon: you get a hug :D [03:16:29] and a stack of pancakes [03:16:30] from me too [03:16:52] <^demon> Thanks :-) [03:17:28] was it easy? [03:17:40] WaRpAtH [03:18:31] <^demon> Mike_lifeguard: It wasn't hard really. Had to update two hooks to pass the summary, then add the summary to the list of external links that get checked. [03:18:58] *Mike_lifeguard looks up "hook" [03:19:25] <^demon> mw:Manual:Hooks [03:20:02] <^demon> Mike_lifeguard: I want to hit log entries next, but there's no appropriate hook yet. I'm trying to decide where a good one would be. [03:25:15] hooks.txt is better than the MW.org page :\ [03:25:35] <^demon> Hooks on the MW page is nice for a quick overview of them :-P [03:27:05] <^demon> Well, I am tired and I have work in the morning. Nite all. [03:27:08] after this I will need to read about the difference between "function and a chunk of data" and , or an object and a method." [03:27:14] bah [03:29:03] so then how is a hook different from a function call? [03:49:07] hey, what was the method for geting an articles id? [03:50:03] anyone alive? [03:50:32] you have to type people's usernames, or they might not know you are typing [03:50:46] ? [03:50:53] $wgTitle->getArticleId() ? [03:50:55] oh.. i see what you're saying :) [03:50:59] Splarka, thanks [03:51:46] be sure to declare it global when calling [03:52:02] of course.. :) Splarka, you'll like what I'm going to show you in a sec.. [03:52:42] uhoh [03:56:18] Splarka: go to http://en.wiredtape.com/wiki/Sandbox on the footer you will see forms test link [03:59:32] Splarka, that iframe can actually add data to the website.. :) [04:01:30] Anyway, good night all [05:02:25] 03stipe * r36440 10/branches/MetavidWiki-exp/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (mv_embed.js mv_flashEmbed.js mv_javaEmbed.js sample_page.php): adding initial mv_embed SOC changes - experimenting with support for multiple stream types [05:06:30] 03(mod) Install ConfirmAccount extension on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13782 (10legoktm.wikipedia) [05:59:30] 03(FIXED) history not clickable if in an rtl environment the chosen language is ltr - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12850 +comment (10meno25wiki) [05:59:33] 03(mod) RTL/bidirectional issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745 (10meno25wiki) [06:05:33] 03(FIXED) Links unclickable in rtl wikis when using simple skin under Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13229 +comment (10meno25wiki) [06:15:06] 03aaron * r36441 10/trunk/phase3/includes/User.php: Loosen ipv4 check back, this really should be called isLikeIP() [06:42:40] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AdSense [06:42:55] now that's high-tech [06:44:14] adsense as a tag? bah [06:45:16] 03(mod) history not clickable if in an rtl environment the chosen language is ltr - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12850 (10spacebirdy) [06:45:54] TimStarling: neat, an extension to create XSS vulnerabilities [06:45:54] look at the source code for renderAdsense(), it's at the bottom of that page [06:46:37] apparently the XSS part is a "bug" [06:46:49] like you can include arbitrary javascript on a page without it being XSS [06:49:45] 03river * r36442 10/trunk/tools/ts-specs/: new directory [06:50:44] 03raymond * r36443 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): [06:50:44] Localisation updates Kazakh [06:50:44] (bug 12145) patch by AlefZet [06:51:07] 03(FIXED) Kazakh message updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [06:51:52] 03river * r36444 10/trunk/tools/ts-specs/ (31 files in 4 dirs): spec files for toolserver solaris packages [07:16:20] 03tstarling * r36445 10/trunk/cortado/ (README src/com/fluendo/player/Cortado.java): Add getPlayPosition() as per bug #13901 [07:17:10] 03(FIXED) Expose Cortado play position via JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13901 +comment (10tstarling) [07:28:48] 03(mod) Allow localization of the magic words ISBN, RFC, PMID - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13335 summary; +comment (10raimond.spekking) [07:35:40] 03(FIXED) Upper case OGG extension breaks thumbnailing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14524 summary; +comment (10tstarling) [07:38:49] 14(DUP) Cache Issue with "This page was last modified on ..." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14541 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [07:38:56] 03(mod) Last modified display date not the last one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6263 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [07:44:43] 03(mod) UTF-8 Bug: umlaut misdisplayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=781 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [08:04:05] 03(mod) Antispam filter doesn't filter plaintext rendered URLs - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14522 (10mormegil) [08:21:08] 03(NEW) MediaWiki: Prefs-memberingroups should be top-aligned and not followed by a colon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14590 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [08:41:56] <_wooz> lo [08:54:41] hi there, where is the page with list of languages and their percentage of translation? [08:55:05] ierpe: here [08:55:10] ierpe: for which version? [08:55:15] 1.10 [08:55:17] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Localisation_statistics [08:55:29] thx [08:55:39] Statistics are based on: 1.13alpha (r36434) !!! [08:55:52] ierpe: http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Statistics/1.10 [08:56:02] thx [09:00:49] actually, wouldnt messages file for 1.12 work fine for 1.10? Are they removing messages over the new versions? [09:00:56] 03raymond * r36446 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/specials/Preferences.php): * (bug 14590) Vertical align cells of Special:Preferences [09:03:41] Raymond_, where i can see how this looks like [09:04:24] 03(mod) Create approved wikis (March 2008): Hungarian Wikinews, Erzya & Extremaduran & Gan Wikipedia, and Japanese Wikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13264 (10songchang2000) [09:04:41] djevrek: in your own wiki only if you would run MediaWiki from trunk. if you do not you have to wait until a sync of the Wikimedia servers [09:05:10] so there isn't some live wiki with me from trunk ? [09:05:25] ierpe: just update to 1.12 fully... [09:05:26] me/MW * [09:06:17] Raymond_: can't we do that in css? [09:06:24] 03(FIXED) MediaWiki: Prefs-memberingroups should be top-aligned and not followed by a colon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14590 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [09:08:55] hmm [09:09:45] Nikerabbit: I cantupdate, I have to merge and Im scared :p [09:10:10] ierpe: do it now or it will only get worse, and minimise local changes [09:10:24] the team that was working on the project before me made loads of modifications... :/ [09:11:49] ierpe: you could just remove them all and say "oops" :o [09:12:03] hehe i wish i could ;) [09:12:39] the problem is they modified core files and they didnt list everything [09:12:51] so im having nightmares about it ;) [09:13:13] like searching for code lines for ever [09:14:21] you could set up a new install and then move content over, and as you find things create them as proper modules? [09:14:23] sometimes messages get removed... like 'editinguser' [09:14:45] or 'revhistory' 'loadhistory' 'orig' 'editcurrent'... [09:14:53] but worse, sometimes parameters get added or updated or changed [09:15:08] brb [09:15:32] for example i was thinking about waiting the 1.13 or 1.14 before to merge [09:15:38] so i dont have to do it again soon [09:15:39] :p [09:17:21] Do any of you have any suggestions for optimising MediaWiki? [09:17:29] Especially towards crawlers. [09:18:57] http://dammit.lt/2007/01/26/mediawiki-performance-tuning/ [09:28:06] if I configured that users do not need to confirm in email [09:28:10] when they register [09:28:19] after I finished configuring [09:28:24] how can I change that back? [09:30:54] 03(WONTFIX) Antispam filter doesn't filter plaintext rendered URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14522 +comment (10dan_the_man) [09:34:06] !manual | Dor [09:34:06] --mwbot-- Dor: An introduction to using MediaWiki is at , see for information about copying it to your own wiki. More technical information for MediaWiki administrators is at . For an introduction on programming with MediaWiki, see . [09:34:20] What things are required by MediaWiki for PHP to be compiled with? [09:34:56] G'day everyone [09:35:17] Does anyone know where I can download the language files of Mediawiki, if it has been translated into that language? [09:35:21] MySQL mostly... mycrypt is good to (at least for phpMyAdmin, but I don't know if you need it for md5 to), and mbstring is used my MW [09:35:23] svip: mysql [09:35:29] Dantman: too! [09:36:03] heh [09:36:29] leuce, svn [09:36:36] Werdna: One! ;) [09:37:12] leuce, http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ [09:37:28] Actually I wouldn't recomend that [09:37:32] let's say I said users do not need to confirm their accounts by mail [09:37:37] how do I change that setting? [09:38:08] Dor: You look through the manual that lists all the configuration settings :/ E-Mail settings stare at you in the face [09:38:45] Dantman, where can I find that manual? [09:39:00] !manual | Dor [09:39:00] --mwbot-- Dor: An introduction to using MediaWiki is at , see for information about copying it to your own wiki. More technical information for MediaWiki administrators is at . For an introduction on programming with MediaWiki, see . [09:39:01] mediawiki.org/Manual:Configuration? [09:39:07] k [09:39:08] yes [09:39:09] thanks :) [09:39:20] And it gives a link to a list of all configuration options [09:39:21] !shortlink [09:39:21] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "shortlink". [09:39:36] Do you mean? [09:39:41] !shorturl | Dor [09:39:41] --mwbot-- Dor: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [09:39:48] yeah [09:39:50] that's right [09:39:54] thanks x2 :D [09:40:28] djevrek, leuce: I really wouldn't recomend going into trunk for i18n files unless you are running trunk. The $#'s, and also definition of messages change across different versions of MW... you are likely to end up with messages which break if you take trunk's i18n files instead of sticking with your branch [09:40:55] The best option is to checkout one of the release branches from SVN when you first install, and just occationally to a `svn update` [09:53:08] Aww crap... [09:53:44] I can't do cli stuff in SVN... my ssh key is in putty format and isn't compatible with cli... crap [09:55:31] Danny_B: i think putty can export to standard openssh format [09:55:51] err, that was for Dantman :( [09:55:53] tabpwned [09:59:18] At http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Category_redirect there's a construction placing the category in another category (Category:Category redirects or Category:Non-empty category redirects) based on the number of articles. When does this get updated? What's the lag to expect? [10:01:08] hi at all :) sorry for my stupid question, but i cant find any information about how to insert images with absolute path ?! what is the full commandline or where i can read anything about this ? [10:02:25] Leyton4114 : You have to allow external images. $wgAllowExternalImages = true; in LocalSettings.php should do the trick [10:07:02] !skins [10:07:02] --mwbot-- Overview: . Skin usage: . Gallery of CSS styles: . Writing your own: [10:07:48] 03raymond * r36447 10/trunk/phase3/ (8 files in 5 dirs): [10:07:48] * Per Nikerabbits suggestion: Move vertical-align into CSS [10:07:48] * Move text-align into CSS too. [10:09:28] Multichil, thx..but i believe that i need an introduction for this topic, because i dont know what the full command is. i have also installed the FCKeditor-extion, but when i enter the external path, it shows me, that it cant find any image. in some tutorials could i read, that i only must write [[image:imagename] ?! [10:10:48] Leyton4114 : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowExternalImages [10:12:11] oh, that was the solution...bigTHX [10:18:43] hi Raymond_ [10:26:37] I tried to install an extension and it tells me that one of the files could not have been found [10:26:46] SyntaxHighlighting [10:28:56] Dor: geshi? [10:44:12] Nikerabbit, yes [10:46:49] Dor: did you install geshi itself too as documented? [10:46:50] Hi, I have question regarding squid as a reverse proxy for MediaWiki. [10:47:00] I read http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Squid_caching [10:47:04] Nikerabbit, ummm, no? [10:47:05] sec I'll do it [10:47:06] xD [10:47:19] bahhh slow [10:47:27] But how do you setup squid that it does only cache pages for anoynmous pages? [10:50:31] Nikerabbit, After I upload all 170 files, it should work? [10:55:35] scfe: the headers served with pages for logged in users should prevent squid from caching them [10:55:46] at least that's how it works for wikipedia. i don't know the configuration details., [10:56:26] Duesentrieb: But how does squid know if I am authenticated that it should forward the request to the MediaWiki PHP= [10:56:32] s/=/?/ [10:57:03] scfe: i guess by looking at your login cookie. but i'm not sure, actually [10:57:09] Duesentrieb: I mean if squid has a version of the page in its cache and I'm authenticated. [10:57:35] Duesentrieb: That would be interesting to know as I did not see any configuration for this. [10:57:47] scfe: sorry, donÄt know the details [10:58:04] Duesentrieb: Is there anyone I can ping about this? [10:58:21] Duesentrieb: Thanks for your help anyway :-) [10:58:33] mark is the squid expert i guess. he tends to be busy though [10:58:55] TimStarling is worth a try too. [10:59:57] Duesentrieb: Thanks. Will try to find the answer myself and only ping these two as a last resort :-) [11:08:41] <^demon> TimStarling: Ping [11:11:51] how do I enable more file types? [11:13:28] to be uploaded [11:13:37] !faq [11:13:37] --mwbot-- Before reporting a problem or requesting assistance, please check the FAQ first. The FAQ for MediaWiki can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ [11:18:34] scfe: when you are authenticated, mediawiki sends headers in its responses that prevent squid from caching it [11:19:36] mark: Yes, that is the easy part. My question is how to configure squid that an authenticated user does not get the cached squid page but the "live" one generated by PHP? [11:19:53] there is no need to configure squid for that [11:21:10] How does that come? Say someone (anonymous) requests /FooBar. Afterwars I (authenticated) request the same page. How can squid see that it should not send me the cached page? [11:21:43] because squid treats them differently because of the Vary: cookies header [11:22:59] marks: Thanks that really helped. Will do some additional investigation on that topic - maybe I get my squid configured right then :-) [11:33:02] !sitebar [11:33:02] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "sitebar". [11:33:05] !sidebar [11:33:05] --mwbot-- To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [11:34:53] 03nikerabbit * r36448 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (6 files in 2 dirs): [11:34:53] * fuzzy respects now $wgTranslateMessageNamespaces [11:34:53] * freecol not added by default [11:34:53] * Messages keys can now start with capital letter, but have to be unique after normalising case and spaces [11:37:30] 03nikerabbit * r36449 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/FreeCol.php: * Opps, forgot to add a file [11:38:22] !toolbox [11:38:22] --mwbot-- See , also have a look at [11:41:08] how do I change the toolbox below the sidebar? [11:42:57] nvm [11:42:58] :P [11:49:14] hello, how can i get the skin name from the skin object? [11:51:32] ping all :) [11:52:27] Parse error: syntax error, unexpected '[' in /home/andrew/mediawiki-extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.class.php on line 42 [11:52:31] fuck you, PHP [11:52:36] $thisWord = explode( ' ', $conds )[0]; [11:52:53] heh [11:52:56] Bfhappy: $skin->getSkinName() [11:53:01] ialex, thanks :) [11:53:16] what am I supposed to do instead of that? [11:53:20] assign a variable and check it after? [11:53:21] Werdna: i really like PHP for that [11:53:34] Werdna: i think so [11:53:41] it's what i do [11:53:51] fuck you, PHP [11:53:57] +1 :) [11:54:01] ialex: can i do this: $wgUser->getSkin()->getSkinName(); [11:54:09] Bfhappy: yes [11:54:54] thx again [12:01:54] ialex, apparently it doesn't set a skin for some reason? [12:02:30] Bfhappy: what you get? [12:02:52] empty [12:08:34] Werdna: list ( $baa, ) = explode( ' ', $conds, 2) ? [12:09:07] oh, that's a good one. [12:09:26] hmm [12:09:39] Bfhappy: ok, that's only set just before outputing html [12:10:01] *Werdna ponders. [12:10:23] I'm not even sure that comma is needed [12:11:31] holy shit PHP what are you doing [12:11:33] *Werdna is writing an annoying logic parser. [12:11:37] what does this print to you: php -r 'var_dump( explode("a", array()) );' [12:12:04] what I expected it to. [12:12:17] that is? [12:12:18] ["Arr", "y"] (on multiple lines) [12:12:31] how is that expected? [12:12:31] ialex, hey sorry, it's bfhappy, was disconnected.. (I solved it by just using $wgDefaultSkin.. [12:12:44] Well, string representation of an array is Array [12:12:46] (the string) [12:13:12] how can I force a user to make a description? [12:13:22] when editing a page [12:13:39] Werdna: yeah sure.. absolutely genious way to hide bugs [12:13:41] I mean, the save button cannot be pressed until a description is there [12:13:52] Nikerabbit: it makes sense. That doesn't mean it's sensible. [12:14:05] blah, how the fuck am I supposed to do this? [12:14:14] I have a list of conditions, separated by semicolons [12:14:34] where does addOnloadHook get defined? [12:14:35] and possibly including a bracketed list of conditions (like so: ( cond1; cond2 ) ) [12:14:45] and of course, that bracketed list may or may not contain further bracketed lists. [12:15:01] how can I possibly parse that properly? [12:15:09] Wiredtaper925: wikibits.js [12:15:15] ialex, thanks again :) [12:16:04] Werdna: mmm [12:16:04] Nikerabbit: any ideas? [12:16:12] this is when I need Tim. [12:16:27] I could preprocess it, I suppose. [12:16:28] Werdna: split it int tokens, and parse it and starting a new recusio every time there is ( ? [12:16:37] ialex: per chance do you know where wgBreakFrames is defined? [12:16:42] Nikerabbit: I'm already doing it recursively. That much was obvious. [12:16:55] Wiredtaper925: in DefaultSettings.php [12:16:59] I just need to figure out how much to chew off for each iteration. [12:17:10] Maybe I'll start by implementing it without multilevel lists. [12:17:12] ialex, but that's js.. [12:17:19] the wgBreakFrames is.. [12:17:20] Werdna: watcha doing anyway? [12:17:32] Nikerabbit: very granular behaviour blocking. [12:17:35] Wiredtaper925: or Skin.php if it's the javascript variable [12:17:37] AbuseFilter extension. [12:18:10] mmm [12:18:19] Werdna: isn't there grammars for such languages? [12:18:28] ialex, ok, how can i get it defined when I have disabled $wgOut in an extension? (hope you know :) ) [12:18:29] I'm rolling my own language. [12:19:34] Wiredtaper925: $wgOut->mDoNothing [12:20:11] ialex: ? (are you sure it's not just a problem if not in order js inclusion?) [12:20:54] Wiredtaper925: ? [12:21:15] how can I force a user into writing a description? [12:21:23] ialex: perhaps I just include the javascripts not in the correct order? (and what does mDoNothing do?) [12:21:31] Nikerabbit: I've figured out how to do it. [12:21:37] A nice character by character parse :/ [12:22:01] Wiredtaper925: if mDoNothing is true, $wgOut won't output anything [12:23:32] ialex: ok, but I want that js.. there are some thing I want $wgOut to output.. what I want though is for wgBreakFrames to be defined, and i think it's just a matter of ordering the js inclusion properly..? [12:24:20] Wiredtaper925: if you want wgBreakFrames to be true, set $wgBreakFrames = true; in LocalSettings.php [12:24:50] Checked the FAQs for this and didn't find anything usefull (unless I missed it): new installation of MediaWiki, when I go to index.php I get nothing. When I go to index.php5, I get my wiki. All subsequent pages require .php5. How can I change the default for all pages to just .php? (Or have URLs entered as just .php automatically redirect to .php5?) Am I just being dense and missing something obvious? [12:25:33] ialex, i don't want it to be true, i just want it to be defined.. since i'm getting a js error for line 52 in wikibits.js -> if (wgBreakFrames) -> error: wgBreakFrames not defined.. [12:27:13] Wiredtaper925: oh, wikibits.js should be included after the variables are set in source of the page, wich is correct in the default skinks [12:29:43] ialex: :) thanks [12:29:47] how can I force users writing a description? [12:30:31] anyone? [12:31:40] Dor, in $wgUserDefaultSettings - one of the options would be something like force summary [12:31:50] ialex, anyway thanks for everything! ciao [12:32:01] np :) [12:33:47] !localsettings [12:33:47] --mwbot-- All configuration is done in LocalSettings.php (near the end of the file). Editing other files means modifying the software. Default settings are not in LocalSettings.php, you can look in DefaultSettings.php. See , , , and [12:35:21] Dor, in $wgUserDefaultSettings - one of the options would be something like force summary [12:35:29] where can I find information about this? [12:36:08] Nikerabbit: whee, I did it! [12:37:13] *^demon waves to everyone [12:37:17] <^demon> Good morning. [12:37:27] good morning [12:38:11] do you know how can I force people into make a summery when editing? [12:39:11] <^demon> Not offhand. I know you can force it as a default preference. But even if they disable it? Not sure. [12:40:40] 03(NEW) Special:Linksearch should be case insensitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14591 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (waldir) [12:41:32] Ugh. This is so annoying. I can't figure out why all my pages are .php5, and won't work as just .php (blank pages load--not a "Cant find page" error), or how to fix it. [12:44:33] 03(mod) Special:Linksearch should be case insensitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14591 15enhancement->normal (10raimond.spekking) [12:49:04] Okay, well, thanks anyway.... [12:49:21] 03(mod) Special:Linksearch should be case insensitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14591 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10innocentkiller) [12:52:53] domas: Is it OK to run a query that filesorts when you're certain that the result set cannot be larger than 17 rows? [13:02:58] RoanKattouw, yes, although it's not ideal. [13:03:09] Er, wait. [13:03:11] No, it depends. [13:03:16] *Werdna grins. [13:03:17] 03(mod) Special:Linksearch should be case insensitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14591 +comment (10waldir) [13:03:18] Do you mean "result set"? Or "number of rows scanned"? [13:03:19] Do you need details? [13:03:32] go go AbuseFilter extension [13:03:33] If the *number of rows sorted* is at most 17, it's not really a problem. [13:03:46] Well, yes, I believe that's the case [13:03:50] Here's what's going on: [13:04:47] I'm scanning the ipblocks table for all range blocks in which a certain IP (or range of IPs) is contained. This uses the ipb_range index, and is done so that it only grabs ranges broader than the input range (so in the worst case, the input range is a single IP and you can get at most 17 rows) [13:04:55] Then I'm doing ORDER BY ipb_timestamp [13:05:00] (DESC) [13:05:38] RoanKattouw, what's the query? [13:05:40] isn't there an index on ipb_timestamp? [13:05:41] So if I'm not mistaken, my query (which I'll paste now) will first filter rows by the ipb_range index, *then* filesort the small result set [13:05:54] Werdna: Yes, but I can't use two indices at once [13:05:55] oh right, after filtered. [13:05:55] (with explain) [13:06:14] I'm doing something which will make domas kill me anyway :) [13:07:00] What would that be? [13:07:09] *Simetrical should go off to school, has a chemistry test in a couple of hours [13:07:20] Every edit, it checks against an admin-set list of conditions [13:07:22] Think we have a problem ツ [13:07:31] Simetrical: http://rafb.net/p/RLdpHz55.html [13:07:39] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:10000-2f.jpg [13:07:47] to see if it should ban the user/block the edit/apply extra rate-limits to the edit/warn the user. [13:07:53] "All negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium, graphic files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in the making of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any part thereof are destroyed and/or deleted or erased after their final use." [13:07:54] it's part of my AbuseFilter extension. [13:07:56] Werdna, every edit isn't a big problem. Every view would be a problem, maybe. [13:08:07] Simetrical: indeed. I'll have to store it in memcached, I suppose. [13:08:16] since hitting the DB isn't a fantastic idea. [13:09:00] I guess it's no worse than the spam blacklist [13:09:03] AzaTht: You mean it's illegal to retain copies of something used to produce currency that has now been discontinued? [13:09:04] Werdna, one extra query on every edit is not a big deal. [13:09:14] *Werdna is very very proud of his conditions-checking code [13:09:17] We run lots of queries on edit anyway [13:09:22] 2 hours and 239 lines [13:10:00] RoanKattouw: mean someone will have to go loose with the sledgehammer in the server room after it's final use [13:10:00] RoanKattouw, why do you think this will only scan 17 rows? [13:10:22] Simetrical: This particular query will scan one row at most [13:10:35] Because blocks can't exceed /16 boundaries [13:11:15] RoanKattouw, well, ipb_range_start LIKE '0C22%' is the same as ipb_range_start >= '0C220000', right? [13:11:24] RoanKattouw: and every copmuter that access that image must reformat their harddrive after wathing that image [13:11:30] Simetrical: Yes, this is a bad example [13:11:31] So you really have ipb_range_start BETWEEN '0C220000' AND '0C220000', which is obviously just one row. [13:11:34] ツ [13:11:37] Do you have a better example? [13:11:43] Yeah, just a second [13:12:02] In general, it will probably be unable to use more than the first half of the ipb_range index to do the initial filtering. [13:12:22] So I'm guessing it's going to produce a result set (before LIMIT) well over 17 rows if there are lots of blocks. [13:12:22] Simetrical: http://rafb.net/p/Gay7p664.html [13:13:18] This query grabs all blocks that block ranges that contain the range 12.34.56.00/24 in its entirety [13:13:37] RoanKattouw, that will sort all rows with ipb_range_start between 0C220000 and 0C223400. Why do you think that's at most 17 again? [13:14:05] It can't use the ipb_range_end for filtering here, I'm pretty sure. [13:14:20] Although key_len 20 is weird, the key is only 16 bytes long that I can see . . . [13:14:22] ipb_range ( ipb_range_start, ipb_range_end ) [13:14:25] Anyway [13:14:53] The *result set* is gonna be at most 9 rows in this case [13:15:02] Hmm, well, actually, I think you're right, it's not a problem. But ask Domas. [13:15:20] It can't use the second half of the index for log(N) retrieval, but it can still use it to filter before it does a filesort. [13:15:27] Because only range blocks with /24 or broader can match this [13:15:44] So given that we're restricted to CIDR ranges, I guess it might be okay. But don't quote me on that. :P [13:15:51] *Simetrical needs to go to school now [13:16:04] And the given range is part of exactly one /24, exactly one /23, ...., /16 and that's 9 [13:16:11] OK good luck on that chemistry test [13:16:31] Thank God I passed my final exams recently, no more chemistry for me [13:17:09] Summer course for me. [13:17:18] I expect to get 100, but I'm going to review the material anyway. [13:17:25] And I have some field theory and Galois theory to catch up on. [13:18:01]