[00:08:22] for(var i in obj['query']['pages']) alert(obj['query']['pages'][i]['imageinfo'][0]['thumburl']) [00:08:31] damn, sexy [00:09:28] Whee, media queries in Fx3.1. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156716 [00:09:44] "Without this, I fail a bunch of my tests when I have my laptop plugged into a larger monitor but still mirroring to the smaller laptop display. (If I turn off the mirroring to the laptop display, I get the large size even without this patch.)" [00:09:44] 03(NEW) central-auth ALT message for browsers with images disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14597 normal; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (jidanni) [00:09:52] That's a kind of horrifying scenario. [00:10:13] What does a query like (min-width: 5in) return if it's mirrored onto two monitors of different sizes? [00:14:01] 03brion * r36495 10/trunk/extensions/BotQuery/query.php: [00:14:01] Replace live hack: disable 'contfrom' (when $wgMiserMode on rather than always) [00:14:01] Note: botquery spews all kinds of notices, and the pretty-printer still hasn't been fixed from the quick security fixes (so & in links...) [00:14:01] It really should be replaced with an adaptor to the modern API [00:34:21] 03aaron * r36496 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/RequestAccount_body.php: Use wfMsg(), since it gets parsed [00:38:52] 03(mod) Admins should be asked for confirmation when Antispoof applies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13426 +comment (10tylerromeo) [00:43:33] Hrmph. texvc renders \overleftarrow and \overrightarrow but not \overleftrightarrow. AMS is installed, but texvc incorrectly says it's not a valid LaTeX tag. The texutil.ml even has it listed though. [00:50:57] brion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Splarka/galleryimagelist.js if you're interested in ugly scraping code ^_^ [00:52:43] I specifically do not reference 'Image:' anywhere in scraping to avoid localization problems (should work in theory), but annoying, heh [02:50:18] 03(mod) Grouping references does not support DBCS characters - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14216 (10fdcn64) [03:06:06] 03(NEW) Parse Renderer needs to allow base url specification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14598 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (lordmortis) [04:18:32] hey splarka [04:18:49] ra [05:46:09] hi [05:46:25] I have a question about implementing mediawiki? [05:48:33] !ask | ge45 [05:48:33] --mwbot-- ge45: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [05:48:43] :) [05:54:38] i want to implement wiki like mediawiki that supports media but need to have the ability to restore to backup,have a search function , tags(maybe), only users can edit like wikipedia, support ads to maintain the site.Can mediawiki do all of these? I read some of the documentation but I see that media is supported. [06:00:32] !extension | ge45 [06:00:32] --mwbot-- ge45: MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See for an overview of known extensions. [06:02:18] how does mediawiki or any wiki for that matter interface with the internet [06:03:00] Inteface? As in? [06:05:58] how does it become part of the internet/ I would need a host but how would I start a wiki site? Do I install mediawiki into server computer?? [06:06:27] Yes, you just unzip the archive into your web server root. [06:09:50] "INSTALL" [06:18:11] mediawiki runs on top of mysql right? [06:21:09] mysql does the databasing but is it managed by mediawiki? [06:28:50] is there a way of having mutually exclusive groups in mediawiki? [06:29:28] eg. if a person is a member of editors he can't be a member of readers? [06:30:43] zsh: Sometimes. [06:31:03] It depends, really. If they can't read, they _could_, I suppose, have the ability to delete things. [06:31:07] But that couldn't very smart. ;) [06:31:13] Wouldn't be. * [06:31:16] *MZMcBride is tired. [07:31:44] 03ashley * r36497 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/ (CentralAuth.php SpecialMergeAccount.php): [07:31:44] CentralAuth: [07:31:44] *Move MergeAccount extension credits from SpecialMergeAccount.php to CentralAuth.php to make it actually show up in Special:Version [07:41:15] What's the extension so that the search box will suggest pages when I write in it? [07:41:19] like, I search for [07:41:22] He [07:41:25] he'll suggest [07:41:28] Hello [07:41:38] Henry [07:41:48] etc. [07:43:02] I believe that is a core feature (and only 1.13+) but don't quote me on that [07:43:34] oh [07:43:36] ok [07:43:38] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEnableMWSuggest [07:43:39] thanks :) [07:43:54] although the older versions have something similar [07:44:05] such as? [07:44:08] (except that it sucked) [07:44:37] *Splarka looks it up [07:44:41] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAjaxSearch [07:45:05] so basically I need to wait to the official release of 1.13 [07:45:27] that one has been around since 1.8 [07:46:54] yeah [07:47:15] It doesn't seem to work [07:47:23] unless I did something worng? [07:48:26] maybe now... [07:48:53] nope [07:48:56] still didn't owrk [07:48:58] work* [07:49:04] $wgAjaxSearch = 'true'; [07:49:05] $wgUseAjax = 'true'; [07:51:25] 03huji * r36498 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuth.i18n.php: Localisation updates: Adding/updating Persian translations [08:01:49] hello [08:37:20] What's up! Can you use $_SESSION in media wiki? [08:43:28] guys, on a fedora w/ selinux what are the steps for stopping this "The upload directory (/usr/share/mediawiki/images) is not writable by the webserver. " message? [08:43:57] i just installed and configured apache as group, owner, chmodded 777, everything.. is it a selinux thing? [08:46:45] 03siebrand * r36499 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHu.php: [08:46:45] (bug ) Update namespaces for Hungarian. [08:46:45] Was about time that I did this as I was being threatened with decayed corpses :) [08:48:07] 03siebrand * r36500 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHr.php: [08:48:07] (for for previous incomplete commit message) [08:48:07] (bug 11488) Update namespaces for Hungarian. [08:48:07] Was about time that I did this as I was being threatened with decayed corpses :) [08:48:07] http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Siebrand&oldid=12334627#Hungarian_Wikipedia_.28the_people_still_ask_or_namespace-renaming.29 [08:49:08] 03(mod) Fix namespace names in the Hungarian localization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11488 +shell; +comment (10siebrand) [09:04:48] Hey I want to build a redirection system that redirects french users on the french page, english users on the english page, etc... I already have the country identification from the ip implemented. [09:04:50] Now my problem is if I identify a user's country on the main page, and then redirect him, he's gonna fall into an infinite loop of redirection... [09:04:51] Any idea of how i could implement that? [09:05:35] well.. guess i just had to define $wgUploadDirectory.. weird that this should be defined manually [09:05:47] ierpe: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Multilang seen? [09:05:56] nop thx [09:07:03] hum [09:07:24] or maybe it was http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Multilanguage I was thinking of [09:07:42] anyway, something you could do... only have the language redirect when on the main page [09:07:57] and have a &langredirect=no parameter appended to the URL when you redirect, so they only redirect once [09:08:12] i was more thinking about using a global variable, wich would be false on the first visit, then when the redirection is done the variable is ... [09:08:18] yeah thats what i was going to say [09:11:24] but is it a good solution? [09:11:35] or should i do it another way? [09:16:17] *Splarka tries to remember what Wikia did [09:55:53] can we use $_SESSION variables in mediawiki? [10:02:05] how do I add new user groups? [10:02:08] !usergroups [10:02:08] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [10:02:15] nvm XD [10:03:02] at the end of the page (in my own wiki) it was shows when the page was last modified...but i i modify the page now...it will show the modification date of the modification before mine...does someone know where i possibly can changes this behaviour? [10:06:21] it doesn't say it :| [10:06:25] I want to make a group [10:06:35] like "trusted" for example [10:06:38] is that possible? [10:09:51] Dor: yes, just asssign it a right in LocalSettings and it will exist [10:10:09] uh [10:10:09] huh [10:10:39] ok [10:10:40] :P [10:11:18] anyone with full access to userrights will then be able to assign it [10:11:33] I understand [10:11:37] okay, thanks :) [10:11:46] $wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['move'] = false; [10:11:52] $wgGroupPermissions['trusted']['move'] = true; [10:11:59] yeah [10:12:01] okay :) [10:12:08] 03jojo * r36501 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/pdf-server/pdfserver.py: better error message if subprocess.call() fails [10:12:41] however, perhaps you want all sysops to be able to grant 'trusted' [10:12:45] rather than just bureaucracts [10:13:18] if I want that [10:13:23] so what do I do? [10:13:35] without giving htem full userrights access :) [10:13:35] $wgRemoveGroups['sysop'] = array( 'trusted' ) [10:13:41] $wgAddGroups['sysop'] = array( 'trusted' ) [10:13:47] oh [10:13:48] okay [10:14:03] see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgAddGroups [10:15:03] also: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgGroupsAddToSelf and $wgGroupsRemoveFromSelf [10:15:09] okay [10:15:11] and [10:15:12] eventually it gets complicated [10:15:14] another thing [10:15:21] I have a wiki in a non-english langauge [10:15:32] I want "trusted" to be renamed to something in my language [10:15:41] but still called "trusted" in LocalSettings [10:15:43] is that possible? [10:15:58] I want it to show "foo" in Special:Userrights [10:16:06] but "trusted" in LocalSettings [10:17:43] yes [10:17:51] it is.. some system messages... [10:18:28] so.... what do I search for in Allmessages? [10:19:03] well, it might not be in there [10:19:09] *Splarka can't remember, looks [10:19:43] starts with 'grouppage' IIRC [10:19:49] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/MediaWiki:Grouppage [10:20:07] oop, that is the link to the description page about them [10:20:11] (also something you might do) [10:20:38] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/MediaWiki:Group- [10:21:22] so for example if you've created a group 'rollbacker' [10:21:30] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Grouppage-rollbacker links to the page about them [10:21:44] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Group-rollbacker is used for the group plural [10:21:55] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Group-rollbacker-member is used for the singular group member [10:21:57] Splarka, if I don't give a right [10:22:07] will it automatically be false? [10:22:16] and then you can translate them on your wiki [10:22:26] MediaWiki:Group-rollbacker/fr would be used for french language versions [10:22:34] MediaWiki:Group-rollbacker/de for german, etc [10:22:40] oh [10:22:46] Dor: unless it is implicit, yes, false [10:22:54] so I'll edit MediaWiki:Group-trusted/he [10:22:59] and it should change? [10:23:22] and group-trusted-member/he yes [10:23:23] I think [10:25:51] there also appears to be group-X-desc and group-X-name, so be aware of many things to tinker [10:31:53] ùîâ ïà ãéíåêâ áéùîò÷?* [10:31:57] Splarka, no there isn't [10:31:58] :o [10:32:02] what's up [10:32:12] fine, how are ya? [10:32:39] baa [10:32:57] Splarka, I changed it and it didn't change [10:32:59] :( [10:34:19] there [10:34:21] found it xD [10:34:42] the /he was unneeded [10:34:43] xD [10:35:48] I want to protect a page [10:36:05] so that only "sysop" "trusted" and "beurucrap" will be able to edit it [10:36:08] well, the /xx will be if you want it to show for other languages [10:36:08] how can I do it? [10:36:48] it says either "none" "registered" or "sysops" [10:39:37] you'd probably edit $wgRestrictionLevels [10:39:49] *Splarka shrugs [10:40:30] see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRestrictionLevels [10:40:31] sec [10:40:36] Im implementing a redirection system that automatically redirects french user on the french page, english user on the english page, etc.. I already have the country identification implemented. i am at the actual redirection implementaion now. [10:40:38] My problem is i end up in a redirection loop, or an exclusive redirection that deny users to access the other language sites (which is not what i want) [10:40:40] I tried with session variables, with a global variable and with a &redirect=no in the url and none gave me the result i want... [10:41:03] ierpe: tried a cookie? [10:41:18] no [10:41:22] (just a plaino javascript cookie maybe) [10:41:30] i actually never used cookies.. i'll get into it now! [10:41:39] plaino? what's this? [10:46:13] plain, bare, simple [10:46:18] a plain [10:46:20] ok :p [10:46:23] abort redirect client-side if the client has the cookie (or accepts no cookies) [10:47:28] i see... its gonna take me a while casue im a noob in javascript! ^^ [10:51:30] 03catrope * r36502 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiMain.php: [10:51:30] Revert live hack from r36493, because it has no effect whatsoever. [10:51:30] $params['action'] cannot be an invalid action, because the $params array is [10:51:30] filled by ApiBase::extractRequestParams() which checks whether the parameters [10:51:30] are valid and throws an error message (ironically implemented with a [10:51:34] UsageException) if they're not. [10:51:41] how do you know if a client doesnt accept cookies? [10:52:38] it doesn't send them back [10:52:47] :p [10:53:39] right [10:53:50] so the first thing you do when a user visits your page, and their browser language is not english... [10:54:14] is set a cookie "AcceptLangRedir" [10:54:52] and then, test if that is set, and if so, then redirect them, but then when they are redirected set another "LangRedirDone" or such [10:55:04] ok [10:55:06] (probably a more logical method, but you get the idea) [10:55:11] yeah [10:55:29] you guys are french? [10:56:12] nope [10:56:24] ^^ [10:56:46] are you paid to be everyday here helping people? [10:56:50] to be here* [10:56:51] extent of my frenchness: ce soir, cest la vie, deja vu, menage a trois [10:57:02] hehe i like menage a trois ;) [10:57:04] nope [10:57:14] oh, and mange moi [10:57:18] ... I came here for help 2 years ago [10:57:23] I am still waiting for that help [10:57:24] so you just love mediawiki [10:57:27] meanwhile I find others needing help [10:57:27] lol [10:59:28] ok to come back about my problem, the thing is,if hte user doesnt accept cookies then i cant redirect him [10:59:40] which is not what i want either [11:00:10] im working on wiki for a big corporation and they're wreckin head... [11:03:44] going to eat talk you later [11:04:14] k [11:09:49] hello all, i spossible to get somewhere database dump of some big wiki site? for test purposes. [11:09:51] 03jojo * r36503 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/pdf-server/ (README.txt pdfserver.py): fix documentation for PYTHON_EGG_CACHE [11:10:53] Gali, download.wikimedia.org [11:11:40] Sasa^Stefanovic: thx [11:11:45] np [11:20:58] Sasa^Stefanovic: can you advise me any not large sql dump ? cause enwiki is quite large.. [11:21:20] maybe simple [11:21:46] http://download.wikimedia.org/simplewiki/20080620 [11:45:49] hi [11:45:59] does mediawiki store md5 hashes of passwords? [11:48:38] balasyum: i am not sure, but probably yes. [11:49:43] balasyum: yes [11:49:48] balasyum: with a bit of salt [11:50:07] how can i load data from dumps to wiki? [11:50:15] in xml format [11:50:47] what kind of salt does it use? [11:51:59] Gali, Special:Import ? [11:53:40] http://people.planetpostgresql.org/greg/index.php?/archives/74-Reset-a-user-password-on-MediaWiki.html [11:53:41] this way? [11:54:39] yea [11:54:56] balay: md5(userid + '-' + md5(password)) was the usual salt [11:55:12] so md5 of "foo" acbd18db4cc2f85cedef654fccc4a4d8 [11:55:36] md5 of "123-acbd18db4cc2f85cedef654fccc4a4d8" -> b76906b53abac36ee9862dbb19dcc0fe [11:56:22] however, it isn't quite that simple anymore [11:56:30] see http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/User.php?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain [11:56:37] static function oldCrypt() for the old method [11:56:42] static function crypt() for the new [11:57:28] *Splarka eats domas's liver with a bit of salt [11:58:18] how secure is this? [11:58:37] pretty [11:59:11] endofuniverse+1 [11:59:59] not absolutely completely impossible, but md5 is only very slightly insecure in constructible collisions [12:01:22] so not only would you have to have access to the password keys (in which case, you probably are a server admin and could have just turned salting off! then you'd have raw access and no one would know), but then you'd have to... well... run a reverse md5 check matching for a several digit number, dash, and 32 character hex string, you'd have to do it again afterwards... [12:01:59] be easier to just setup a packet sniffer looking for logins since they're sent in plaintext mostly :) [12:02:28] indeed [12:02:34] you could, I suppose... [12:02:57] run dictionary words through and construct 1- 2- 3- etc libraries up to # of user IDsa [12:03:02] ^IDs [12:03:06] thank you [12:03:58] so if someone used a dictionary word, it might be a bit insecure, if you had access to the salted hash and knew the userID number, but it'd still take possibly years [12:05:24] waht should i do with that : Import failed: Unknown import source type ?? [12:06:59] no need for userid, is there? [12:09:19] nobody know how to solve it? I want to load test wiki data into my mediawiki, and this message return: Import failed: Unknown import source type [12:11:56] is the extension .xml? [12:12:02] is it correctly formatted xml? [12:12:26] balasyum, i downloaded simplewiki dump [12:12:55] i hope it is correctly formated, ist quite large data (180 MB of XML) [12:13:10] have you extracted it? [12:13:31] i used 7zip [12:14:00] have you got access to the server? [12:14:00] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps#importDump.php [12:14:30] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps#7-Zip [12:15:38] did you get this: http://download.wikimedia.org/simplewiki/20080620/simplewiki-20080620-pages-articles.xml.bz2 ? [12:16:08] i had some issues with php in console before.. so may it be one possible problem [12:16:17] yes, this i downloaded [12:17:50] hmm, not this one.. [12:17:52] http://download.wikimedia.org/simplewiki/20080620/simplewiki-20080620-pages-meta-current.xml.bz2 [12:18:42] the one I linked: "This contains current versions of article content, and is the archive most mirror sites will probably want." [12:18:56] and yours: "These files contain no page text, only revision metadata." [12:19:24] ok, i will try that version, thx. [12:19:33] ;) you're welcome [12:26:08] still same problem :(. Import failed: Unknown import source type [12:29:53] hmm, i am using zend php and i dont undestand why i get allways from console: DB connection error: MySQL functions missing, have you compiled PHP with the --w [12:29:53] ith-mysql option? [12:30:50] I'm trying to set $wgSitename to a hebrew value [12:30:56] and it messes things up [12:31:02] how can I do it? [12:32:08] Gali, check your php.ini [12:32:14] and find if there is the mysql extension [12:32:22] Dor, what is the problem? [12:32:36] I changed $wgSitename to 'îéø÷' [12:32:40] which is in hebrew [12:33:02] and it messes the whole site [12:33:21] pages in hebrew are shown as weird characters etc [12:35:16] am I the only one, who doesn't understand what you mean by messing and weird characters? [12:37:50] balasyum, okay [12:37:58] let's say I have a page called [12:38:01] Mirc:Hello [12:38:11] when I change Sitename to îéø÷ [12:38:15] it changes to [12:38:25] îéø÷:é÷êêí [12:38:40] aha [12:38:42] much better [12:38:49] balasyum: i tried so many times to solve it, but without solution, there msut be some mess with Zend and mySQL [12:38:50] characters which aren't supposed to be in hebrew [12:39:09] Gali, what kind of access do you have to the server? [12:39:31] its local server [12:39:37] on my computer.. [12:39:42] operating system? [12:39:53] WinXP [12:39:58] appserv? [12:40:10] Dor, I have no idea, maybe the experts can help you [12:40:17] or this is a bug, and please report it [12:41:39] 03demon * r36504 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/specials/SpecialRecentchanges.php): Fix regression from r36376. $wgAllowCategorizedRecentChanges was broken. [12:41:44] no this is no bug of mediawiki [12:41:45] 03(FIXED) "Limit to categories" feature doesn't work since r36376 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14583 +comment (10innocentkiller) [12:42:13] Gali, that was to Dor, sorry [12:42:27] Gali, did you set up apache2 and php5 and mysql manually? [12:42:49] if you are interested, i cann show you php.ini [12:42:56] no need, thank you [12:43:06] just answer, please [12:43:34] no, i used Zend core + Zend Platform + Zend Studio. [12:44:49] then mysql isn't set up [12:44:51] i cannot imaginw, how everything works great via web , but php from console says problem with mySQL. [12:45:06] can you create pages? [12:45:12] and view them? [12:45:12] sure. [12:45:15] yes. [12:45:16] :S [12:45:30] i can do everything great via web :) [12:46:37] what could yo uadvise, is worth to install new apache and php to set it up..? [12:47:19] don't think so [12:47:53] if you download http://download.wikimedia.org/simplewiki/20080620/simplewiki-20080620-pages-articles.xml.bz2 [12:48:05] yes, this one i used. [12:48:06] extract it, and Special:Import [12:48:17] it says wrong formatted xml? [12:48:21] yes [12:49:33] out of ideas [12:50:32] hmm.. :/ [12:50:49] such easy thing are always so hard.. [12:51:14] *Sasa^Stefanovic off [12:59:16] 03(mod) Create the 'MediaWiki default' user on wiki creation, or on upgrade if user does not exist. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14569 +comment (10innocentkiller) [13:03:01] I love how versioning my config files makes the sudo log so clear. [13:03:02] /bin/rm /etc/lighttpd.conf [13:03:02] /usr/bin/git diff [13:03:02] /usr/bin/git rm lighttpd.conf [13:03:02] /usr/bin/git commit -m Remove useless symlink [13:03:18] What would that have looked like without the git commit message? [13:12:37] Simetrical: hmm? [13:14:35] 03nikerabbit * r36505 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groupStatistics.php: * Doesn't make sense anymore to not check for all languages [13:15:00] 03nikerabbit * r36506 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ffs/Java.php: * Some docu [13:19:25] 03nikerabbit * r36507 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/FreeCol.php: * Fix [13:23:54] Will MW tell me anywhere whether it uses cache? [13:27:18] pls help me with that, i run importDump from console and thsi message came : PHP Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to all [13:27:18] ocate 401 bytes) in C:\simplewiki-20080620-pages-articles.xml\simplewiki-2008062 [13:27:18] 0-pages-articles.xml on line 2629893 [13:30:23] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access [13:30:30] I worked according to this [13:30:41] and it attemps to go to a file found at /w/w/ [13:30:46] which ofc doesn't exist [13:30:48] why? [13:30:48] hi. how can I indent a whole paragraph? [13:31:12] RoyK, try :

fndkfnsdf

[13:31:18] Dor: thanks [13:31:19] with the : [13:31:26] don't need

[13:31:52] anyone knows why? [13:31:53] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access [13:32:02] the result is www.mirc-il.com/w/ [13:33:02] Dor, flyingparchment: it's a paragraph with lots of short lines - will explicity need to
eak them? [13:33:34] seems : in front of each line makes line spacing 50% higher [13:34:15] svippy: which cache? [13:34:42] I worked according to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access [13:34:50] and the result is www.mirc-il.com/w/ [13:34:53] anyone knows why? [13:35:04] 03rotem * r36508 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Update. [13:35:43] Dor: HTTP error [13:36:18] okworking now [13:36:48] Dor: eh? [13:37:03] Dor: in which directory is your wiki? [13:37:05] Gali, no [13:37:06] Nikerabbit, w [13:37:23] Dor: the url has to be different than the real dir [13:38:07] Nikerabbit, it is different [13:38:36] Dor: it isn't, it says w/ [13:38:52] okay [13:39:01] /wiki/ says 404 not found [13:39:19] as the page says "You can rewrite the URL, so the server will invisibly load "w/index.php?title=article" for "wiki/article". The two paths for files and pages (in this example, /w and /wiki), must be different from each other!" [13:39:19] $wgArticlePath = "/wiki/$1"; [13:39:33] it is different [13:39:36] $wgArticlePath = "/wiki/$1"; [13:39:44] RewriteEngine On [13:39:45] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f [13:39:45] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d [13:39:45] RewriteRule ^wiki/(.*)$ w/index.php?title=$1 [PT,L,QSA] [13:39:45] RewriteRule ^wiki/*$ wiki/ [L,QSA] [13:39:45] RewriteRule ^/*$ wiki/ [L,QSA] [13:39:51] this is .htaccess [13:40:26] http://www.mirc-il.com/wiki/Join [13:40:34] this for example should link to an article [13:40:54] then it is not working [13:41:01] no kidding? [13:41:01] wait [13:41:06] where should .htaccess be? [13:41:11] because I put it in /w [13:41:40] in / [13:41:50] poo [13:41:53] okay [13:41:53] webroot [13:41:59] there's already one there [13:42:05] how do I mmerge them? [13:42:12] add the content at hte bottom? [13:42:23] ye [13:42:23] depends what there is [13:42:50] it's overridden, isn't it, Nikerabbit? [13:43:10] balasyum: what is? [13:43:14] forum stuff [13:43:32] the rules in .htaccess [13:43:53] if he concats them [13:44:32] no? [13:46:06] got it working [13:46:09] thanks :D [13:57:47] importDump nothing do.. ? dont know why? [13:58:15] only output some text to console... [13:59:20] balasyum: are you here? [13:59:47] here I am [13:59:53] what does it say? [14:01:11] hmm, ok i found problem.. i hope it will work now.. I installed new PHP over Apache.. and now no problems with MySQL functions.. [14:01:46] :) [14:01:48] good [14:05:22] dont know how to change path for php.ini.. always loading Zend php.ini.. [14:12:35] Gali, take a look at apache.conf [14:21:34] 03(NEW) Problem with project talk namespace in Hungarian Wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14599 major; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (gondnok345) [14:26:36] Witam! Czy jest tutaj kto¶ z Polski? [14:28:17] I cant good talk in English, but plise- help me, I do everything what I can, to be undartand. ;) [14:28:32] tell your problem [14:29:00] I'd like edit my menu. [14:29:12] MediaWiki:Sidebar [14:29:14] edit that [14:29:37] hmm... thx. [14:29:45] ;) [14:29:48] :D [14:29:52] you're welcome [14:39:26] 03(NEW) Illegal Unicode characters are allowed in pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14600 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (amir.aharoni) [14:41:40] What are illegal Unicode characters? [14:43:24] <^demon> jMCg: Ones that shouldn't be used for display. [14:43:50] <^demon> Page 17 of http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/UFB50.pdf lists some. [14:44:20] hmmmm... i think- illegal Unicode character is character what UTF8 can't show correct. For example "±" i think you see bad. ;) [14:44:50] charsets are such a mess :(( [14:44:57] hipekhop: that's not a Unicode character at all [14:47:26] i have question. balasyum say me about MediaWiki:Sidebar. Where i can show full list this... hmmmm... commands(i can't search any other name in my meand)? [14:47:56] what are you looking for? [14:48:28] when i say- "full list" i think about list, where i can search MediaWiki:Sidebar MediaWiki:OtherWord [14:49:02] hipekhop: look at [[Special:Allmessages]] [14:49:15] great, thanks! :D [15:10:30] templates in cache? hi, i have a pretty small template used on all articles (some table code). now i wonder if it's better to use the plain text instead? i mean templates may cause low server load, but on all articles? [15:26:49] Subfader, how small is it? [15:27:33] Subfader: if articles are cached... doesn't matter much [15:28:36] {{Center}} >> align="center" [15:28:50] Subfader, if it really matters to you not to use the template, use {{subst:templatename}} [15:28:52] pretty dumb to set it up in the first place i know [15:29:02] so you can use [15:29:09] {{subst:center}} [15:29:23] align="center" [15:29:24] and it will actually replace it with align="center" when you save it [15:29:26] same length :D [15:29:31] well then [15:29:33] ah. [15:29:39] is it used a lot of times? [15:29:51] on all 12000 articles [15:29:51] if it is, you can add it to MediaWiki:Edittools [15:30:09] hmh i'd run a bot the replace it [15:30:10] I'd assume you have extension [15:30:28] no i don't use charinsert [15:30:35] :o [15:30:39] what's your wiki url? [15:30:42] nah it's ok i will replace it [15:30:51] http://mixesdb.com [15:31:23] I see [15:32:05] i just thought a template content may be cached [15:32:32] so since it's not i'll replace it since it's pointless [15:32:57] It can't because the template replacement is server-side [15:33:14] the client recieves it as the align="center" and not as {{Center}} [15:33:33] i see. thanks [15:33:46] as I said.. you probably wont notice any difference [15:34:44] oh [15:34:56] and if you really wanna save some typing time [15:35:07] make the tamplate [15:35:09] {{c}} [15:35:20] or something similar [15:35:48] not about typing. i use fill-in templates anyway. i guess i've set up back then so users understand the table code :/ [15:38:00] Nik: Yes only a minimal change but better than keeping this useless template [15:38:45] is there a way i could replace it in mysql rather than via bot? [15:39:16] no [15:39:57] i know it's all blob. ok [15:47:36] 03(mod) Inputbox Always includes Main namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14586 (10pmoors) [15:48:07] 03(mod) Inputbox Always includes Main namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14586 (10pmoors) [15:56:02] I have a problem on the Hebrew wikipedia which I never encountered before... [15:56:07] I changed the look of a infobox template [15:56:15] and the old infobox template still appears on the articles themselves.. [15:56:22] ...but.. [15:56:31] ...I notice that if I make a small change into the text in one of the articles with the infobox and re-save... the new infobox appears. [15:56:37] is there any way to purge all the articles which use one template? [15:58:25] i just learned that templated are not cached so all shoudl display your change [16:00:22] 03(mod) Do not create new directories with permission 777 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14593 +comment (10dan_the_man) [16:01:56] how to create a restricted wiki as here: http://grants.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page ? [16:02:59] Subfader - but it doesn't, so what should I do ? [16:07:20] 03(NEW) Use wfDebugLog instead of wfDebug by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14601 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (seventowers) [16:19:10] hello [16:23:23] ow, found this: http://23rdworld.com/2007/03/30/how-to-make-your-mediawiki-private/ [16:24:48] eh? [16:24:59] copying localsettings there for everyone to read? [16:26:08] same old mistakes... special:userlogin should be whitelisted automatically [16:27:17] mm, nothing about images [16:29:02] ok, then this one: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access [16:33:53] 03rotem * r36509 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Fix. [16:36:44] 03rotem * r36510 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Fixes. [16:42:32] 03rotem * r36511 10/trunk/extensions/Cite/cite_text-he: Using month genitive form when applicable. [16:45:00] is it possible to use mediawiki with ms sql server? [16:45:38] RandIter, experimentally, in 1.13, yes. (That's the development version, not yet released, you can get it at http://svn.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/trunk/phase3 via SVN) [16:45:39] What? [16:46:09] Is it possible to run Mediawiki with DOS 6.22? [16:46:26] Simetrical: oh but i'd need a windows binary installer [16:46:39] RandIter, however, it may not work well, or at all. We have more or less perfect support for MySQL, very good support for PostgreSQL, and rather dubious support for most other things (MSSQL, SQLite, Oracle, ...). [16:46:50] RandIter, MediaWiki is a script, not a binary. [16:46:55] mike_jh: pff.. even better, try the c64 version! [16:47:07] Well, I do still have a c-64 [16:47:14] mike_jh, if you can compile PHP, a web server, and some supported DBMS on DOS 6.22, then yes. [16:47:16] there you go.. me too btw ;-) [16:47:58] simetrical: i guess i'll just go with mysql then [16:48:51] anyway. DOS 6.x. new school!... get the CP/M out! [16:54:46] TOPS 20 times! [16:54:58] s/s// [16:58:04] 03(NEW) Preferences for anons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14602 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User preferences; (dotkorg) [17:04:53] 03(mod) Allow anon users to define which version sould be displayed by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14321 (10dotkorg) [17:05:04] 03(mod) Preferences for anons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14602 (10dotkorg) [17:06:41] 03(mod) Allow anon users to define which version sould be displayed by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14321 (10dotkorg) [17:06:53] 03(mod) Preferences for anons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14602 (10dotkorg) [17:19:50] 03(mod) Problem with project talk namespace in Hungarian Wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14599 +comment (10bdamokos) [17:28:40] If I'm using the AutoAuthenticate hook, will that trigger the UserLoginComplete hook or is the UserLoginComplete hook only available when you manually login? [17:33:36] 03(mod) Preferences for anons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14602 (10robin_1273) [17:33:51] hi, does someone know why the list of transcluded pages appears when editing a whole page but does not when editing a mere section of a page? [17:37:00] PieRRoMaN, have a link to an example [17:37:01] ? [17:37:26] sure, compare the footers of http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:PieRRoMaN&action=edit and http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:PieRRoMaN&action=edit§ion=0 [17:37:47] Dunno. File a bug (if there's not one already). [17:38:36] I think it's not a bug. [17:39:02] It's a feature request. [17:39:10] :) [17:39:14] is ist? [17:39:16] Actually, wait. [17:39:21] PieRRoMaN, it shows up if you hit preview. [17:39:23] -s [17:39:27] The reason is because it's produced on parse. [17:39:34] And sections aren't parsed individually, unless you preview. [17:39:55] Simetrical : exactly, which makes me think it's linked to the presence of the value section= in the url [17:39:56] I doubt there would be any big problem with doing a parse on edit to produce this kind of list. [17:40:13] PieRRoMaN, if there's no section=, it will use the templatelinks table in the database, without having to do a new parse. [17:40:23] However, that stores links per-page, not per-section. [17:40:29] So it can't use that for section edit. [17:40:34] oh, right [17:43:28] then, all there is to do is to parse the page when editing a page section [17:44:51] Right. [17:46:05] how do i remove the privacy policy, about wiki and disclaimers links from the bottom of my wiki? [17:48:09] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#How_do_I_change_the_footer.3F [17:49:54] Subfader: thanks - sorry for faqing [17:51:41] np [17:53:06] *brion holds breath [17:53:09] ok let's try a svn up [17:54:58] can you guys guess when 1.13.0rc will be released? [17:55:17] Subfader: as soon as tim has some time to package it up [17:55:31] oi oi :D [17:56:11] $ svn up up and away [17:56:39] (it says "At revision 36511" instead of complaining that the files don't exist, oddly) [17:57:10] Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_CONSTANT_ENCAPSED_STRING in /home/wikipedia/common/php-1.5/extensions/NetworkAuth/NetworkAuth.php on line 23 [17:57:10] tsk tsk [17:57:42] :( [17:58:13] 03brion * r36512 10/trunk/extensions/NetworkAuth/NetworkAuth.php: syntax error! [17:58:35] <^demon> Bah, stupid . [18:23:00] 03(mod) UTF-8 Bug: umlaut misdisplayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=781 (10brion) [18:26:08] 03(mod) Increase Commons file size upload limit to 40MB - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12595 (10brion) [18:30:12] 03(mod) Admins should be asked for confirmation when Antispoof applies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13426 (10brion) [18:38:18] hello [18:41:27] 03brion * r36513 10/trunk/extensions/Cite/citeParserTests.txt: [18:41:27] Parser test case for bug 14216 [18:41:27] from https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=5005 [18:41:35] 03(FIXED) Grouping references does not support DBCS characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14216 +comment (10brion) [18:42:44] hello [18:45:53] 03(mod) Patch for generateSitemap.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14397 summary (10brion) [18:46:42] 03demon * r36514 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SiteStats.php: No need to count(*) in SiteStats::admins [18:55:42] 03(mod) Add translation for "UTC" in signatures for Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14452 (10brion) [18:56:46] happy midsummer [18:57:11] 03(mod) Lilypond - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14480 (10brion) [19:15:46] 03(mod) Add link trail on Slavic "=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=AF?=" character - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14512 (10brion) [19:21:58] 03(FIXED) logo of sq.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14513 +comment (10brion) [19:24:02] I've always wondered . . . where does the phase3 come from in regards to svn? [19:36:58] does anybody have a link to either a tutorial or extension that programmatically creates an article? [19:40:17] what kind of access creation do you mean, drdamour ? [19:40:40] programatically? [19:40:59] any relation to automagically? [19:42:34] no, using the mediawiki API perhaps? By instantiating an Article Class, setting the text, and than persisting it [19:42:42] oh [19:43:18] i'm creating a Special page, that has a form, and based on the text entered creates a page following a template [19:43:23] i'm attempting to [19:43:26] do that [19:48:40] hello, i have a lot of pages in my mediawiki setup and remembering the titles when writting links to them from new pages is difficult to remember... is there a plugin or something that can show me a list of all my pages when i click the link button so that i can select a page from the list to insert as a link? [19:50:20] 03brion * r36515 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) [19:50:20] * (bug 14515) HTML nesting cleanup on edit form [19:50:20] The edit form was being a bit wonky about how it nested certain things, splitting the "summary" *label* from the input form and following check boxes with a
boundary... which was then forced to be inline. [19:50:20] This maybe made sense long ago, but seems pretty silly now. The div boundary [19:50:22] made even less sense when in 'add comment' mode, and when hiding #edit-form via [19:50:24] custom JS or css it would abut the