[00:03:45] 03purodha * r36794 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesKsh.php: ksh - new skin names translated. [00:32:45] where are tags added to output? [00:33:09] Danny_B, OutputPage.php [00:34:27] I found some E_STRICT issues (which I've written a patch for), should I add the patch to an existing similar bug or create a new one? [00:38:55] jisatsu, if it's trivial stuff just post it in the channel, there are a couple of devs here to commit it. [00:38:59] hmm that's weird - outputpage shows right after opening head but when opening source of eg. wikipedia i see bunch of stuff before <title> [00:39:03] <Simetrical> (pastebin, obviously, if it's not really short) [00:40:46] <jisatsu> ok, sure [00:41:20] <jisatsu> http://pastebin.com/d607b88d6 basically [00:46:06] <Simetrical> jisatsu, it's already marked static in trunk. http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Preprocessor_Hash.php [00:46:41] <Simetrical> http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Preprocessor_Hash.php?revision=36668&view=markup [00:46:42] <jisatsu> oh ok. sorry, I'm not sure how all this version control stuff works, I thought I had trunk installed [00:47:39] <Simetrical> jisatsu, where did you check it out from, and when? [00:48:52] <jisatsu> oh, nevermind, looks like I have 1.12 [00:50:18] <Prod[a]> Hi [00:50:37] <Danny_B> Simetrical: if i put meta right after http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/OutputPage.php?annotate=36270#l1356 will it be on every page? [00:51:08] <Prod-you> 12(TimStarling12): I was told you were the person to talk to about the official release of 1.13? [00:51:36] <Skizzerz> how can one choose what error message to use when having $result = false; with the userCan hook [00:52:19] <jisatsu> ok, got trunk now [00:53:20] <Skizzerz> the UserCanRead calls the userCan hook, but not the userGetPermissionsErrors hook, so I was wondering if such a thing was possible... right now it's returning badaccess-group2 and I want it to be badaccess-group0 for a less descriptive error messag [00:55:18] <TimStarling> Prod-you: yes [00:55:19] <Skizzerz> nvm, I got it... albeit in a hack-ish way [00:55:38] <Prod-you> has a date been planned? [00:55:54] <Skizzerz> by doing a foreach on $wgGroupPermissions setting the permission to false for every group >_< [00:55:58] <TimStarling> not precisely, no [00:56:06] <Prod-you> kk [00:56:10] <TimStarling> but there's nothing particularly wrong with 1.13a that we're aware of [00:56:19] <Skizzerz> it needs moar cowbell [00:56:20] <TimStarling> mostly it's just a matter of tarring it up [00:56:50] <Prod-you> for our site, mw upgrades are a significant task (getting the people together) [00:57:08] <Prod-you> so i'm wondering when we should plan to have it done to stick to the latest official [00:57:15] <Prod-you> is it going to be in the next week or two [00:57:18] <Prod-you> or further out? [01:01:30] <Simetrical> Danny_B, yes, should work, I guess. You could add it in skins/MonoBook.php too. [01:02:55] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Setup new groups in no.wikibooks and access to Special: Userrights - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13853 (10herman) [01:03:53] <Werdna> hey Simetrical m [01:07:09] *Simetrical waves [01:07:23] *Werdna shoots the spurious 'm' [01:08:01] <Simetrical> See, if you lived here you'd now have an individual right to own a gun to shoot it with. [01:08:06] <Simetrical> . . . in self-defense. [01:08:12] <Danny_B> hmm, adding to outputpage did not work. i guess i'll give up on this [01:08:20] <Werdna> Simetrical: a constitutional one, even. [01:13:14] <CIA-53> 03aaron * r36795 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/maintenance/updateLinks.inc: minor typo [01:19:07] <Danny_B> heureka! let's see if my commit will be acceptable [01:25:00] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Request for a new mailing list for it:wp administrators - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14676 (10brovvnout+wikibugzilla) [01:26:16] <CIA-53> 03danny_b * r36796 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/OutputPage.php skins/Modern.php skins/MonoBook.php): * adding <meta name="generator" content="MediaWiki $wgVersion" /> [01:26:43] <Danny_B> let's see, if i screwed the encoding up again [01:28:36] <Simetrical> Danny_B, why don't you add it to getHeadLinks() so you don't have to duplicate it to MonoBook and Modern? [01:29:44] <Danny_B> because i'm not mediawiki's code pro and just trying to do minor simple stuff? [01:30:21] <Prod-you> 12(TimStarling12): do you know if the official release will be within the next week, or further out? [01:30:21] <Danny_B> feel free to do it better way, i'll be glad to learn something new [01:30:31] <Simetrical> Danny_B, well, so take that as a suggestion for improvement, then. [01:30:35] <Simetrical> No need to take offense. [01:30:44] <Danny_B> noo, i'm not taking any [01:30:48] <Danny_B> definitely [01:31:00] <Danny_B> that's just the way how we reply here in czech ;-) [01:32:40] <Danny_B> i know i'm tooo big freshman in editing mw code, so i'm always happy when i even make this kind of small things work ;-) [01:34:17] <Simetrical> Danny_B, do remember to update RELEASE-NOTES, though. [01:34:25] <CIA-53> 03simetrical * r36797 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Put this is getHeadLinks() instead to reduce code duplication. Also, update RELEASE-NOTES. [01:34:30] <Danny_B> Simetrical: i actually wanted to add the svn revision number as well like it's used in special:version however i realized that's over my experiences so if'you're going to tweak it, please consider adding this as well, thx [01:34:38] <Danny_B> ah, too late :-/ [01:34:40] <Danny_B> nvm [01:34:48] <Simetrical> I'm going to bed anyway. [01:34:54] <Danny_B> thx for suggestions [01:34:55] <Werdna> night Simetrical [01:39:20] <lch> hi [01:39:45] <lch> any idea when the next release candidate or release of MediaWiki will become available? [01:40:00] <OverlordQ> Soon(tm) [01:40:50] <lch> I'm considering upgrading now or waiting a few weeks, if something new is about to emerge [01:41:13] <Prod-you> 12(lch12): i've got the same dilemma..... [01:41:51] <Prod-you> i was hoping for a release soon since they're due for a "quarterly release" [01:44:48] <lch> ok I'll check back in some days [01:54:20] <HypedZJ> does anyone know a clever way of tracking broken images (locating them, where they are)? [01:57:36] <HypedZJ> does anyone know a clever way of tracking broken images (locating them, where they are)? [02:00:08] <TheOracle23> Can anyone please help me?I'm trying to lock my database,but Special:Lockdb says the file is unwritable,even though I CHMODed it to 777. [02:00:57] <darkcode> that's not the permissions its talking about [02:01:24] <darkcode> that file's permission, it probably doesn't have permission to modify the tables in the database [02:01:32] <TheOracle23> Ah... [02:01:38] <CIA-53> 03skizzerz * r36798 10/trunk/extensions/GroupPermissions Manager/ (. GPManager.i18n.php GPManager.php GPManager_body.php): *add new extension GroupPermissions Manager [02:02:06] <TheOracle23> But I gave it all the possible permissions to SQL [02:02:38] <HypedZJ> does anyone know a clever way of tracking broken images (locating them, where they are)? [02:03:14] <Prod-you> 12(HypedZJ12): try the Special:Wantedpages and see if any of them start with Image [02:03:33] <HypedZJ> thanks [02:04:31] <TheOracle23> For reference,this is the error I got: http://rafb.net/p/Zf3I8Y47.html [02:08:47] <darkcode> sounds like its a separate file than, not even the database [02:09:58] <CIA-53> 03skizzerz * r36799 10/trunk/extensions/ (GroupPermissions Manager/ GroupPermissionsManager/): renaming dir to remove space [02:10:06] <TheOracle23> yes,the file on the server is SpecialLockdb.php, and,as I mentioned,I have its permissions set to 777 [02:10:08] <darkcode> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgReadOnlyFile [02:10:23] <TheOracle23> did that [02:11:10] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) PATCH - OutputPage. php - Add SVN revision number to meta generator tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14682 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (danny.b) [02:13:47] <darkcode> well maybe that file is unreadable by the web server [02:14:03] <TheOracle23> ...don't understand what you mean [02:14:15] <darkcode> I mean the file pointed to by $wgReadOnlyFile [02:14:23] <TheOracle23> hmm [02:14:33] <TheOracle23> is it supposed to be HTML? [02:14:42] <TheOracle23> the file,I mean [02:15:31] <darkcode> I mean as in the file permissions are not set correctly [02:15:37] <Prod-you> extension doesn't matter for that file [02:15:41] <Prod-you> as long as it's writeable [02:16:35] <TheOracle23> it is,it just seems that MediaWiki doesn't understand that it is writeable [02:17:04] <Prod-you> have you checked permissions on all the parent folders? [02:17:10] <Prod-you> that's gotten me a few times [02:17:37] <TheOracle23> yes,its in /wiki/include/...but maybe I should CHMOD wiki,too? [02:17:49] <TheOracle23> I already did includes [02:17:56] <Prod-you> yea, you should [02:17:59] <TheOracle23> k brb [02:18:02] <Prod-you> though [02:18:12] <Prod-you> i'm not an expert on what those permissions should be [02:19:08] <darkcode> they should only need to be readable, would be bad for most things to be writable. common exceptions include the image directory if you want uploads to work [02:28:34] <Shinjiman_> mmmmmmm..... [02:30:54] <Shinjiman_> The Conversiontable variables cannot be loaded from the message cache, I am not sure what's wrong with that.... :( [02:31:33] <Shinjiman_> not quite sure is that a issue on the r35821?? [02:35:30] <DeFender1031> hi. i'm working on a wiki where we've discovered numerous vandals using a certain exploit. The version we're using is heavily modified, so it might be just our software but in case it's not, i'm coming here. The exploit is that if you register with character codes, you'll have access to an already existing account, for example: someone registers as "Test" then someone else registers as "%54est" they now have access to Test's [02:35:34] <DeFender1031> account. [02:38:05] <DeFender1031> if this exploit IS present in the original software, it's a huge security hole that should be dealt with immediately, as i'm sure you are all well aware [02:40:22] <nakon> what version of MediaWiki are you using? [02:40:51] <DeFender1031> i am not sure. as i said, it's been heavily modified by the site's developers [02:41:01] <nakon> check on Special:Version [02:41:04] <DeFender1031> i'm not here to ask for help in fixing it [02:41:17] <DeFender1031> i'm merely coming to tell you that you may have a security hole [02:42:06] <rix> Hi, I'd like to use the monobook skin external-link icon in another project. Does anyone know what the copyright issues are around that? [02:42:29] <DeFender1031> 1.9.3 apparently [02:47:58] <DeFender1031> hmm, i just tried on a different wiki running 1.10.2 and it doesn't allow the % sign in the user name at all, can't even create the account. [02:48:26] <DeFender1031> so it looks like it's just our devs who borked that check somehow... [02:52:42] <Charitwo> O_o [02:52:57] <Charitwo> i thought i was in #wikia for a second, and saw a join from Splarka [02:53:14] <DeFender1031> :P [02:58:49] <DeFender1031> Charitwo, it's because i'm not usually here [02:59:38] <Charitwo> didnt know you were in here til you said " :P " [02:59:54] <DeFender1031> :( [03:00:28] <Charitwo> strongemo [03:01:00] *Splarka kids [03:02:19] <CIA-53> 03shinjiman * r36800 10/trunk/phase3/includes/MessageCache.php: Revert r35821, the change brokes the message cache what the MediaWiki:Conversiontable/xx-xx are using, also this would lose the effects what have been set in the MediaWiki:Conversiontable/xx-xx. [03:02:29] <Charitwo> you're lucky i dont hold a strong grudge for quitting the staff team ;) [03:02:56] <Splarka> lucky in what way? [03:03:13] <Charitwo> idunno, just saying, i have no context [03:11:08] <TheOracle23> <Prod-you>Yes,that worked (sorry I was gone so long,I was busy) [03:11:12] <TheOracle23> Thanks [03:12:31] <TheOracle23> bye all,see you all later [04:07:54] <derekS> hi. is there an easy way to make all pages not viewable unless user is logged in? [04:07:57] <derekS> thanks! [04:08:35] <Splarka> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access [04:10:52] <derekS> beautiful! thanks [04:36:57] <nakon> I just got this error: Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_SL in /home/.tazriel/myapphost/nonewbs.com/wiki/trunk/phase3/includes/DifferenceEngine.php on line 160 [04:37:02] <nakon> I'm using the latest svn version [04:40:11] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Autoload conflicts with other PHP packages in memory that also autoload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14670 (10dmgx.michael) [04:40:13] <OverlordQ> most likely a merge conflict [04:40:53] <nakon> ok [04:41:08] <OverlordQ> you edit that file? [04:41:28] <nakon> no, just checked it out a while ago and then updated a few minutes ago [04:42:21] <OverlordQ> T_SL is << iirc which usually svn uses for hey here's the merge conflict, so I'd suggest rechecking out the file [04:43:14] <nakon> ok, thanks [04:45:35] <CIA-53> 03tstarling * r36801 10/trunk/php/ (11 files in 2 dirs): Custom fatal error messages for PHP. [04:47:51] <nakon> that fixed it, thanks [05:16:50] <CIA-53> 03dantman * r36802 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/Setup.php maintenance/updaters.inc): (log message trimmed) [05:16:50] <CIA-53> Some missing changes for the $wgShared(DB|Prefix|Tables) setup: [05:16:50] <CIA-53> * $wgCookiePrefix: [05:16:50] <CIA-53> ** Shared stuff should always come before local stuff when setting the cookie [05:16:50] <CIA-53> prefix (by my count, if you set $wgSharedDB and $wgDBprefix with the old order, [05:16:54] <CIA-53> even though your usertable is shared, your cookies would be local and logins [05:16:56] <CIA-53> wouldn't be shared right. [05:17:14] <Charitwo> O_O [05:25:14] <Dantman|FS> Supprised that I actually commit code? [05:25:26] <Dantman|FS> :/ Waitasecond... why am I |FS [05:26:38] <Charitwo> mostly your long drawn out commentary like with everything else :P [05:26:59] <Splarka> because you don't pay attention to IRC when you're full screen, even to what you do on IRC yourself [05:27:35] <Dantman|FS> heh [05:28:28] <Dantman|FS> ;) Cept I'm not in FullScreen... It's the damn client deciding that the last name I used had |FS in it so it thinks it should log me in with that on [05:35:19] <Dantman> `/etc/init.d/Dantman start -v` ;) heh [05:40:48] <Charitwo> hi brion [05:41:08] <brion> yo [05:47:19] <Dantman> svnmerge is annoying me... I can never get it to work... [05:50:32] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Password reset appears to fail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14683 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (tstarling) [05:53:42] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Password reset appears to fail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14683 (10Werdan7) [07:20:23] <Dor> !skinning [07:20:23] --mwbot-- Overview: <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skins>. Skin usage: <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Skins>. Gallery of CSS styles: <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gallery_of_user_styles>. Writing your own: <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning> [07:31:45] <Dor> how do I make a namespace to direct to other wikis [07:31:48] <Dor> like [07:32:02] <Dor> [[wp:hello]] == en.wikipedia.org/wiki/hello [07:33:28] <Splarka> !interwiki [07:33:28] --mwbot-- Interwiki links are links between wikis. For instance, on Wikibooks, [[w:Article name]] or [[Wikipedia:Article name]] will link to a Wikipedia article. To set up interwiki links, see <http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Guide_to_setting_up_interwiki_linking> and <http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Interwiki>. For easy configuration, use <http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpecialInterwiki> [07:34:55] <Werdna> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/I18n [07:34:56] <Werdna> very clever [07:36:13] <Dor> woah [07:36:24] <Dor> isn't there a more simple way then directly querying the db? [07:37:00] <Werdna> nope :) [07:37:10] <Werdna> except the extension [07:37:14] <Werdna> but I presume you saw that [07:37:53] <Dor> yeah [07:38:05] <Dor> I think I'll take the exception [07:38:12] <Dor> :P [07:38:49] <Werdna> what kind of exception? [07:38:51] <Werdna> a MWException? [07:40:59] <Dor> extension* [07:41:02] <Dor> sry XD [07:41:03] <Werdna> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/UnNews:Zimbabwe%27s_Mugabe_claims_to_have_won_the_Euro_2008_championship [07:41:06] <Werdna> haha, that's clever. [07:41:10] <OverlordQ> wtf lol @ UN I18N [08:12:47] <Dor> !feature [08:12:47] --mwbot-- It's a feature, not a bug :) [08:12:53] <Dor> !featureed [08:12:53] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "featureed". [08:12:54] <Dor> !featured [08:12:54] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "featured". [08:12:57] <Splarka> arr [08:13:01] <Splarka> Dor: privmsg it [08:13:04] <Splarka> or read its brain [08:13:04] <Dor> how do I mark an article as featured? [08:13:23] <flyingparchment> Dor: the same way wikipedia does: write "This is a featured aricle" on the page [08:13:31] <Dor> or how do I set it so I can mark articles as featured [08:13:38] <Splarka> http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html <-- everything that bot knows [08:13:45] *Splarka pets mwbot [08:13:49] <Splarka> (except that) [08:13:55] <Dor> -_- [08:13:59] <Dor> anyway [08:14:05] <Dor> in a lot of wikis [08:14:23] <Dor> featured articles appear with a star on their title [08:14:31] <Dor> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Kitten_Huffing [08:14:33] <ImMortaL> ��� [08:14:33] <ImMortaL> �� ��� [08:14:35] <Dor> for example ^ [08:14:38] <Dor> ? [08:14:41] <Dor> � [08:14:48] <Dor> �� ���� ����� ��, ��� ���� [08:14:56] <Dor> yah [08:15:13] <ImMortaL> � ��� �� ���� ���� ���� [08:15:52] <Dor> XD ��� ������ ���� �� ������ [08:15:52] <CIA-53> 03nikerabbit * r36803 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (README Translate.css Translate.php TranslatePage.php): * 2008-06-30:1 More contrast in the new default page for Special translate [08:16:13] <Dor> Splarka, do you know how to do it? [08:16:33] <Splarka> <flyingparchment> Dor: the same way wikipedia does: write "This is a featured aricle" on the page [08:17:02] <Splarka> check what templates they're using (uncyc and en.wp) [08:42:22] <CIA-53> 03ashley * r36804 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Two new hooks and one new global function from Wikia codebase [08:48:59] <Dantman> Hmmm... wfSharedDB doesn't look like it should have been lazily committed lik that... $wgExternalSharedDB is pretty Wikia specific and is likely to just cause trouble when lazily added into core [08:58:50] <Werdna> Wikia should use CentralAuth :) [09:00:15] <CIA-53> 03nikerabbit * r36805 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (5 files in 2 dirs): * 2008-06-30:2 Checks for missing and unknown variables for FreeCol [09:03:30] <CIA-53> 03nikerabbit * r36806 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [09:03:30] <CIA-53> * 2008-06-30:3 Check for unknown vars for mediawiki type [09:03:30] <CIA-53> * Removed (mw ext) from extensions, no longer needed [09:04:48] <CIA-53> 03nikerabbit * r36807 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageChecks.php: * Typo in previous commit [09:08:19] <JSharp> Werdna, what advantages and disadvantages would that entail compared to how it's currently done? [09:10:02] <Werdna> JSharp: Well, you could get login working on uncyclopedia and so on, you could better manage permissions (with global groups), and so on. Unfortunately, some features used on Wikia aren't quite done in CentralAuth, but it wouldn't be much work to do them (like global talk-page notification, etc - you could pay me to do them!) [09:10:25] <JSharp> :) [09:13:58] *Dantman thinks that the SHID model would work better for Wikia... [09:16:53] <Werdna> SHID? [09:19:31] <JSharp> Werdna, Does CentralAuth entail creating user table entries for each wiki it's used on? [09:19:47] <Werdna> yes. [09:19:51] <JSharp> ah [09:19:55] <Werdna> c'est un problem? [09:20:04] <JSharp> 6000+ wikis :) [09:20:36] *JSharp will look at the source code tomorrow [09:21:11] <Werdna> JSharp: The user table entry is only ever created if the user browses to that wiki. [09:21:17] <Splarka> well... [09:21:24] <CIA-53> 03mkroetzsch * r36808 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (19 files in 3 dirs): [09:21:24] <CIA-53> New datatype "Code" (minor variant of "Text", trying to preserve input literally, preventing automated [09:21:24] <CIA-53> markup and modified display) [09:21:40] <Splarka> can't you just create it treating *.wikia as one db, and uncyclopedia.org as another? [09:21:43] <Werdna> So, only a few users would end up with more than a couple of dbs. [09:22:14] <Splarka> so you have [[shared db wikis] central auth [uncyclopedia]] [09:22:15] <CIA-53> 03dantman * r36809 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/GlobalFunctions.php): (log message trimmed) [09:22:15] <CIA-53> Partial revert of r36804: [09:22:15] <CIA-53> Removing the wfSharedTable function. [09:22:15] <CIA-53> The function uses a $wgExternalSharedDB which is not part of Core, and has not [09:22:15] <CIA-53> been defined in default settings. The variable itself has no apparent purpose [09:22:17] <CIA-53> and is likely to make the existing use of $wgSharedDB even more complex and [09:22:21] <CIA-53> prone to breakage. [09:22:42] <Splarka> (Uncyclopedia was offered a merge when first joining, they turned it down, they should not have been allowed to) [09:22:49] <Splarka> jesus CIA shut the hell up ^_^ [09:22:54] <JSharp> heh [09:23:10] <JSharp> hmm, the solve somewhat different problems, but might be made compatible :) [09:23:10] <Splarka> to quote Palin from Brazil: "this is information retrieval, not information dispersal" [09:23:43] <Dantman> There's jack for ya... Wouldn't be supprised if that was a register_globals vunerability added through being lazy [09:23:45] <Splarka> but it'd be silly to start adding new wikia with separate user DB, since they all have shared [09:24:07] <Splarka> but importing new wikis will become increasingly harder as conflicts grow, they might be good to SUL instead of SUD [09:26:14] <JSharp> Splarka, interestingly on most imports the number of conflicts is pretty low.. at least in active accounts [09:26:26] <Splarka> well "active".... [09:26:35] <Splarka> what about people with bookmarks, or who just created logins for prefs? [09:26:37] <JSharp> and even in inactive ones [09:26:44] <Dantman> Werdna: SHID (SHared IDentity) was a SSO system I was planning on working on... [09:26:51] <Splarka> and I seem to remember wowwiki having... lots [09:27:08] <JSharp> yes, wowwiki was an exception for some reason [09:27:17] <Splarka> yeah Werdna, what's wrong with you, not knowing acronyms Dan has made up in his head [09:27:28] <JSharp> heh [09:27:39] <Dantman> It does have some similarities to CentralAuth in what it offers... However, it's more of an external approach than CentralAuth's internal approch, which as I remember was a bit more oriented to merging? [09:27:40] <JSharp> Dantman, you mean OpenID <G> [09:27:51] <Splarka> shh J, blasphemy [09:27:56] <Splarka> every Danidea is original [09:27:58] <Dantman> Nah... OpenID has session issues [09:28:29] <Dantman> Actually one of the plans was to let OpenID accounts connect/create a SHID account [09:28:39] <JSharp> so fix them instead of inventing a whole 'nother system :) [09:29:14] <Dantman> OpenID is externally oriented... SHID is internally oriented... They've got different purposes and offer things that the other isn't meant to offer [09:29:29] <Werdna> 09:30 < Dantman> It does have some similarities to CentralAuth in what it offers... However, it's more of an external approach than CentralAuth's internal approch, which as I remember was a bit more oriented to merging? [09:30:05] <Dantman> External as in like a SSO system like CAS, rather than something integrated directly into MW [09:33:02] <Dantman> Wikimedia's wiki are fairly connected to each other, good for CentralAuth, it looks more oriented to grouping where the ties between the wiki are fairly strong (Someone from Wikipedia who goes to Commons likely want to add something there to show up on the other wiki)... SHID was geared towards more broad groups, where there isn't much connection between the actual wiki [09:35:00] <JSharp> so it's essentially an identity voucher system? [09:35:15] <Dantman> Identity Voucher? [09:35:32] <JSharp> yes [09:35:41] <Dantman> ? <- Define [09:35:43] <JSharp> a shared trust system [09:36:03] <JSharp> "I trust you enough to trust them because you say that you trust them" [09:37:16] <Dantman> Doesn't that sound more like OpenID? SHID is more internal... [09:37:25] <CIA-53> 03grondin * r36810 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Adding Group Permissions Manager extension to Translate features [09:37:30] <JSharp> ... exactly my point [09:37:37] <Dantman> Hmmm... hard to explain the border [09:40:06] <Nikerabbit> hi [09:40:11] <Dantman> CAS > SHID > CentralAuth (scope wise)... CentralAuth is tied closely to MediaWiki, CAS is very loosly tied, it's merely a login system, SHID is in between... it's used in cases where wiki are not as directly connected as those using CentralAuth, but where large infastructures like CAS are not necessary and something on the border of integrated and not are needed [09:41:32] <Dantman> Wikia uses a few systems other than just MediaWiki in some instances... And wiki aren't completely interconnected... People jump from wiki to wiki allot, but don't always want to belong to that wiki [09:42:55] <Dantman> By CentralAuth's model, if someone were to give you a link to the AOC wiki and you just popped over there to sniff at the page you were given, you would suddenly get a new account registered there... Even if you never wanted it. [09:44:56] <Dantman> SHID manages a global identity, it links to user accounts, it can reserve that name for you, and keep preferences with you, it helps you quickly and easily end up with an account if you go somewhere you haven't been before, but it doesn't enforce that an account should be instantly created when you go there (unless you set a preference to do that) [09:46:36] <Dantman> CentralAuth was meant for merging users together, SHID is more for linking of a global account to local ones... [09:47:19] <Dantman> ((Actually, tieing in with that, SHID actually lets you use different names in different places, and even link your global account to multiple local accounts)) [09:48:05] <Dantman> Believe it or not, but there are a number of Wikia users who would do that [09:49:00] <Dantman> I see a number of people who have hopped to different names... Mainly, they end up with a name geared towards the theme of a wiki, and end up with a different one when they go to another wiki... [09:52:01] <Dantman> I could honnestly see someone with a global name "RX Knight", who comes to the Narutopedia and links a new user account "Sauske Uzumaki", then hopps over to the DragonBall wiki and uses the name "Burdock", then ends up over on the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki and grabs the name "Black Magician"... It's not like Wikimedia where the topics are general and your username is regarded as a personal identifier [09:58:27] <JSharp> Dantman, interesting concept [09:58:41] <Dantman> Mhmm... [09:59:09] <Dantman> SHID was originally a ShoutWiki concept... It's one of mine which started out pretty good, and has continued to mature in the back of my head [10:00:13] <chequers> Hi, I'm making a lot of im page links on my wiki, eg [[#related-switch|related switch]] [10:00:30] <chequers> is it possible to not have to write out the anchor name twice, and still not see the '#' symbol? [10:00:55] <Dantman> It's actually because of it being a ShoutWiki idea that it ended up a bit more fitting for Wikia... Cause the concept was created with loosly connected communities in mind... And also the use of more than just MediaWiki [10:01:17] <Dantman> chequers: Nah, unfortunately there's no shortcut for that [10:01:26] <Dantman> But you could always create a template [10:02:00] <Dantman> {{anchor|Foo}} -> [[#{{{1}}}|{{{2|{{{1}}}}}}]] [10:02:23] <Dantman> hmmm... maybe goto would fit better than anchor [10:02:31] <Splarka> ew [10:02:43] <Splarka> {{v|}} (like a down arrow, heh) [10:02:51] <Dantman> heh [10:03:03] <Dantman> {{a|...}} like <a/> [10:03:17] <Splarka> V for vendetta, v for victory! [10:03:21] <Dantman> heh [10:06:19] <Splarka> V for velveeta [10:09:17] <JSharp> Splarka, remember remember the 5th of November [10:09:32] <Splarka> the gunpowder treason and plot [10:11:19] <JSharp> I see no reason, why gunpowder, treason [10:11:30] <Splarka> should ever um,... be... a scot? [10:11:35] <JSharp> ha [10:13:41] <Dewi> should ever be forgot? [10:13:50] *Dewi not british [10:13:56] <chequers> Dantman: thanks [10:17:09] <Dantman> JSharp: With SHID, I could probably even make things like skin (and a small fake name in the preferences bar) persist even when you are not logged into a wiki cause you have no accout... A small an unobtrusive message can give you a link to instantly create an account (redirects back to the same page you were on and logged in), an option to link to an existing account if you have no account and... [10:17:46] <Dantman> someone already has your name... And an option in both cases to create a new account, but bringing you to a page where you can select the name you want. [10:19:22] <Dantman> ^_^ But on top of that... I think I can even set it up so that you can edit a page, hit preview save or whatever you want, but once you hit save you'll get a small prompt to create or link an account, or save as anon... That way even going to the edit page doesn't force an account on you, but you still have a streamlined way to edit on a brand new wiki. [10:25:02] <JSharp> Dantman, sounds interesting... kind of like what you can do with OpenID :) [10:25:05] *JSharp grins [10:25:24] <JSharp> v 2.0 :) [10:25:29] <Dantman> Nah... [10:26:59] <Dantman> OpenID is not integrated, so all you really get is a "Login with OpenID" link that lets you go to a separate page and /login/ which may create a new account for you... However, unless there is a name conflict or you don't send a nickname, you don't get a pick on what name to use... And it actually is rather obtrusive [10:28:18] <Dantman> I actually ended up with the name "Friesen" on the OpenID permanently connected to an OpenID because the forms on the provider were a little unclear [10:28:50] <Dantman> It had fields for Full Name and Nickname, but setup in a way that I thought I saw First Name and Last Name [10:29:51] <Dantman> Also... not everyone wants to cary a long URL as their name to login [10:31:28] <brianmc> I could do with some help setting up Mediawiki:toolbox on en.wikinews.org [10:31:31] <Dantman> ;) Perhaps I'll even add a "Switch Identity" link for when you have more than one account connected to a SHID user [10:32:22] <Werdna> brianmc: O RLY? [10:32:23] <Werdna> what's up? [10:32:25] <brianmc> I wanted to take ** commonsupload-url|commonsupload out of MediaWiki:sidebar and put it there [10:32:55] <brianmc> seems toolbox doesn't work on the same syntax, or I'm not editing the right special page [10:33:04] <flyingparchment> brianmc: you can't customise toolbox [10:33:13] <brianmc> damn [10:33:55] <flyingparchment> you probably could with JS, but it would be lame and wouldn't work for people with JS disabled [10:33:58] <Dantman> JSharp: OpenID isn't active until you login... SHID is active on all local sites when you are logged into SHID... So even without an account things like skin and langage preferences can be accepted [10:35:53] <Dantman> ^_^ OpenID -> SHID... Take your OpenID, loginto SHID using it, and you have a session persisting throughout an entire service host [10:36:21] <Dantman> Best of OpenID and best of SHID, a two in one convenience deal [10:38:51] <Werdna> !man Hooks [10:38:51] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks [10:40:07] <Splarka> mmmm, flyingparchment: en.wikinews could ask that $wgUploadNavigationUrl be changed to to Project:Upload though? [10:40:32] <flyingparchment> if they want to remove the existing upload link, then yes [10:40:54] *Dantman still wishes someone would create a Semantic Uploads extension [10:41:21] <flyingparchment> i wish someone would create a thing to automatically stab people who use the word' semantic' ;-) [10:41:22] <Splarka> right, and have Project:Upload a disambiguation twixt the two [10:41:30] <Splarka> semantic autostab [10:42:28] <Dantman> Well... I'm meaning a extension of Semantic Forms which allow you to create upload forms... [10:42:49] <Dantman> It would be quite handy for wiki that use a lot of Fairuse stuff... Rational and Fair use type selection in one [10:43:12] <Dantman> Allong with any custom things like extra tags or categories to put the page in [10:56:35] <chequers> is there any way to make the toc of a pge appear always visible on the right hand side of the page? [10:56:44] <chequers> I'd like to do this on a per-page basis [10:59:10] <Dor> how do I make an element which is hidable? [10:59:15] <Dor> similar to {{spoiler}} [10:59:19] <Dor> on many wikis [10:59:34] <Dor> or the ToC [11:03:02] <Splarka> chequers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:TOCright [12:50:35] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Autoload conflicts with other PHP packages in memory that also autoload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14670 (10innocentkiller) [13:11:39] <reisio> this page - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount - mentions a 'confirmaccount' permission [13:11:47] <reisio> anyone know where that's set? [13:16:21] <Simetrical> !permissions | reisio [13:16:21] --mwbot-- reisio: For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [13:16:53] <reisio> so close [13:16:54] <reisio> thanks [13:33:00] <Dor> how do I change the time on {{CURRENTTIME}} (how do I change the local wiki time)? [13:33:14] <Dor> !time [13:33:14] --mwbot-- For help with configuring timezones in MediaWiki, please consult <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Timezone>. [13:34:49] <proppy> Hi, is there a way to insert <script> and <css> into <head> from a mediawiki plugin ? [13:39:42] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Error uploading images, viewing images, deleting images. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14657 04CRIT->normal; +comment (10innocentkiller) [13:40:31] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Error uploading images, viewing images, deleting images. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14657 (10innocentkiller) [13:42:29] <Dantman> proppy: A extension to let you add that stuff to the head... or what code to use in an extension to add tags to the head of the page? [13:43:47] <Duesentrieb> proppy: wgOut->addScript is one way. maybe there's a nicer way now, but that one should work [13:44:01] <Duesentrieb> note that it takes full tags, and doesn't care if they are scripts or what [13:44:23] <proppy> 'what code to use in an extension to add tags to the head of the page?' [13:44:41] <proppy> understood [13:44:49] <proppy> so I could also add css that way [13:44:58] <Dantman> Remember your CDATA tags if it's not through a src [13:56:40] *proppy notice there is also addInlineScript and addScriptFile [14:04:02] <proppy> it seems also that with getHeadItems I could phpunittest that the script / css have been added [14:09:52] <kodjegs> hi can someone please tell me how to create really very long pages (about 3M) in mediawiki? [14:10:03] <kodjegs> It is not allowing me to create pages of size more than around 300K [14:10:26] <Duesentrieb> wtf happened to CIA? [14:11:04] <Duesentrieb> kodjegs: why would you ever want to do that? parsing would take forever, and it becomes unreadable anyway [14:11:24] <kodjegs> but i can't break the page, it's all one unit [14:11:33] <kodjegs> i mean if I break it, it loses its meaning [14:11:52] <Simetrical> kodjegs, MediaWiki is not a good idea to use for this. It can't handle very long pages reasonably. [14:11:52] <Duesentrieb> maybe it's not sitable as a wiki page, then? [14:11:54] <Duesentrieb> what is it? [14:12:22] <kodjegs> i have a very large pdf, an ebook of about 1000 pages long [14:12:31] <kodjegs> i have to create a wiki page for it [14:13:03] <Duesentrieb> why do you "have to"? [14:13:10] <Duesentrieb> you can upload the pdf [14:13:19] <Duesentrieb> and you can turn the pdf into static html using an external tool [14:13:28] <Duesentrieb> copying the text into a wiki page makes no sense at all to me [14:13:42] <kodjegs> can people edit if I upload a pdf? [14:13:56] <kodjegs> sry if i seem unintelligent in asking this question [14:14:05] <Duesentrieb> to answer your question technically: set $wgMaxArticleSize to the number of kilobytes you need. but you'll have no joy with that. you'll probably get time outs when trying to save that page. [14:14:19] <kodjegs> ya, that's what i got :( [14:14:34] <Duesentrieb> kodjegs: no. editing such a huge block of text is is probably not possible anyway. browsers wouldn't like that [14:14:43] <Duesentrieb> kodjegs: break it into chapters. [14:14:50] <kodjegs> k [14:15:17] <Duesentrieb> kodjegs: try editing a 1000 page document in ms word :P [14:15:20] <Duesentrieb> it'll die. [14:15:33] <kodjegs> ya, u r right [14:16:04] <kodjegs> k, i'll try breaking it, and see if I can do it without loss of any semantics [14:16:09] <kodjegs> thanx for ur suggestion :) [14:25:43] <Duesentrieb> http://getsatisfaction.com/wikipedia/topics/a_good_place_for_mediawiki_support#reply_524451 [14:33:35] <Mookie> I suspect this is an inflammatory question. (Do I see a vi vs. emacs thread coming?) I am looking for MW editing bot to perform mass changes on my own private MW install. There are really almost too many choices. Multiplatform would be good. Any recommendations? [14:42:53] <proppy> oups,Fatal error: Call to undefined method OutputPage::addScriptFile( [14:43:49] <proppy> seems that my mediawiki version has only addScript [14:51:22] <Schiz0|SD> Hey [14:51:57] <Schiz0|SD> I have a wiki setup and running. Whenever I try to log into it, it says "The wiki uses cookies to long in users. You have cookies disabled" [14:52:04] <Schiz0|SD> But I have cookies enabled, and it DOES in fact log me in. [14:52:15] <Schiz0|SD> if I click anywhere after that error page, I'm logged in. [14:52:57] <Skizzerz> make sure that you're ALLOWING cookies from that domain? [14:53:17] <Skizzerz> that error message usually only triggers when it has issues on setting your session cookie, etc. [14:53:30] <Schiz0|SD> wait wait [14:53:34] <Schiz0|SD> it uses php sessions? [14:53:44] <Schiz0|SD> or it's own cookies? [14:53:55] <Skizzerz> it uses cookies [14:54:10] <Schiz0|SD> I edited index.php and added my own code to check if a user is logged in on my forums or not (so non-forum members cannot view the wiki) [14:54:24] <Schiz0|SD> and my forums uses sessions, so I put session_start() in the wiki code. [14:54:29] <Schiz0|SD> and ran some checks. [14:54:34] <Skizzerz> it uses cookies, not php sessions [14:54:36] <Schiz0|SD> ok [14:54:57] <Schiz0|SD> well,. I'm viewing the cookies in firefox, and there are two cookies for the wiki [14:55:07] <Schiz0|SD> wikiUserName and wikiUserID [14:55:59] <Skizzerz> there should also be a wikiToken cookie [14:56:50] <Schiz0|SD> hm, I don't see it [15:03:34] <OsamaK> Hello! How to use ifeq like that {{ #ifeq:321|123 or 321|Yes}}? [15:05:24] <OsamaK> {{ #ifeq:321|(123 OR 321)|Yes|NO}} = NO [15:06:13] <linnuxxy> I have problem in importing the xml dump into the database [15:06:13] <linnuxxy> i've converted to sql ... and everything went ok [15:06:13] <linnuxxy> but when i use mysqlimport... I get warrnings and nothing imported in fact [15:06:31] <OsamaK> Hello :) [15:06:53] <OsamaK> People must answer me first.. If there is anyone! [15:07:09] <linnuxxy> hello OsamaK [15:07:39] <linnuxxy> so quite here!! [15:07:51] <OsamaK> BTW, there are 188 users! [15:08:02] <linnuxxy> I know [15:08:07] <linnuxxy> :( [15:09:17] <^demon> The vast majority sit quietly and don't say much. [15:09:23] *^demon clamps hand over his mouth [15:21:37] <Darks> Hello [15:21:55] <Darks> I'm french so it's not easy, but I have a question [15:22:33] <Darks> I have installed Mediawiki but I don't know how can I edit the links in "Navigation" menu [15:22:43] <Darks> Someone can help me? [15:28:41] <OsamaK> Darks, Edit your MediaWiki:Sidebar [15:28:56] <OsamaK> For example, look at commons' one: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar [15:29:39] <Darks> Thx a lot ^^ [15:30:02] <Darks> And do you know I can I edit my page for a memberlist? [15:30:29] <Darks> I don't know if there is a function created to do it [15:32:15] <OsamaK> Darks, You mean: Special:ListUsers? [15:32:56] <Darks> I don't know, i'm going to try with that [15:33:07] <Darks> ( sorry for my english :s) [15:33:17] <OsamaK> Darks, What do you mean with "memberlist"? [15:33:28] <OsamaK> Darks, It's not worse than mine :-) [15:33:51] <Darks> The list of the users [15:34:32] <OsamaK> What's page title? [15:34:52] <Darks> Special:Liste_des_utilisateurs, i've found it, I work with a french' translation of wiki [15:37:29] <lukas__> Hi, I have a problem concerning short urls for my mediawiki installation. The /wiki/article links don't work, says that /w/index.php can't be found. But if I use /w/index.php?title=article I get the article just fine [15:37:52] <lukas__> I'm using the .htaccess-based method for rewriting [15:38:05] <OsamaK> Darks, This is in French.. Anyways, You can edit most of what you can see.. [15:39:12] <OsamaK> Darks, look, write 'Special:AllMessages' on search box [15:39:53] <lukas__> Does anyone want to help me with that problem? I haven't got any other htaccess files other than the one specified in the article on mediawiki, which says it should be in public_html [15:40:02] <OsamaK> Darks, if you want to edit "log in" (in french) sreach it on that page (Easly using: ctr+F) [15:40:19] <OsamaK> Darks, then, edit MediaWiki Massege.. [15:40:35] <CWii> lukas__, Be patient. [15:41:05] <Darks> yes ^^ [15:41:26] <OsamaK> lukas__, Try: /wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page [15:41:51] <lukas__> "The requested URL /w/index.php was not found on this server" [15:42:13] <Darks> .htaccess [15:42:20] <OsamaK> ok, try this other way.. [15:43:07] *Dashiva boggles at DPL not being listed on the DPL page [15:43:15] <lukas__> htaccess = http://rafb.net/p/40nZID88.html [16:01:19] <CWii> oh noes [16:01:23] <CWii> NET SPLIT! [16:25:37] <jimbojw> out of curiosity, can someone name a Template used on the english Wikipedia with a /huge/ number of inclusions? [16:25:48] <jimbojw> that is, what template is used as much or more than any others? [16:26:19] <jimbojw> infobox or ! would be my first guesses [16:26:33] <lukas__> yeah, ! probably... why does ! exist anyway? [16:26:39] <lukas__> what does it hack? [16:26:51] <Werdna> it used to hack the preprocessor before it became obsolete. [16:27:30] <VasilievVV> {{!}} is obsolete? [16:27:42] <lukas__> oh, and Hl1/Hl2 or whatever they're called [16:27:46] <Werdna> as far as I know [16:27:49] <VasilievVV> iirc it's still used in links etc [16:28:00] <VasilievVV> Yes, it's still used in templates [16:28:13] <Werdna> I'm not sure if it needs to be, though [16:30:05] <Ne_Lublu_Padonka> всем привет! [16:30:48] <Ne_Lublu_Padonka> Hi for all! [16:30:53] <Werdna> hi [16:31:23] <Ne_Lublu_Padonka> Do somebody speak russian language here? [16:33:02] <VasilievVV> Ne_Lublu_Padonka: что надо? [16:33:35] <Ne_Lublu_Padonka> ты когда-нибудь устанавлинал викимедию на комп? [16:33:48] <Ne_Lublu_Padonka> VasilievVV: по типа этого http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%BA_%D1%81%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%8E_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B4_Linux [16:34:05] <VasilievVV> Ne_Lublu_Padonka: я - разработчик :) [16:34:09] <jimbojw> {{!}} is not obsolete - it's necessary to provide pipes as input params [16:34:39] <VasilievVV> Я пытался ставить дампы ВП на комп. Рано или поздно MySQL начинал глючить [16:34:44] <jimbojw> for example {{some template| this is a pipe "|" }} [16:34:45] <Ne_Lublu_Padonka> VasilievVV: <jimbojw> что-то сказал... это он мне? [16:35:16] <VasilievVV> Нет, это мы проблемы движка обсуждаем [16:35:56] <Ne_Lublu_Padonka> VasilievVV: не - мне надо просто поставить викимедию, чтобы поприкалывацца тупо... [16:36:07] <Ne_Lublu_Padonka> VasilievVV: мне дампы не нужны... [16:36:13] <VasilievVV> А [16:36:23] <VasilievVV> Не путай Викимедию и МедиаВики [16:37:16] <VasilievVV> Ну так скачай, поставь её и играйся на здоровье [16:37:39] <lukas__> wow guys, thanks for clearing that up.. I feel enlightened now..I especially agree with "МедиаВики"... hmhm, very true indeed. [16:38:36] <Atluxity> heh [16:38:42] <Ne_Lublu_Padonka> VasilievVV: а чем отличаюцца викимедия и медиявики? [16:43:18] <Kibergod> There are no opers on this chanel? [16:43:49] <Werdna> no IRC operators, no. [16:44:06] <Werdna> but I am a channel operator, and so's br1on [16:51:43] <Charitwo> Kibergod: network guidelines recommend that channel ops only op when needed, and deop after they do what they need to do [16:59:29] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) (Shortcut) redirects to special pages do not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14684 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Redirects; (Wiki.Melancholie) [16:59:50] <wikibugs> 03(mod) (Shortcut) redirects to special pages do not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14684 15enhancement->trivial; normal->lowest (10Wiki.Melancholie) [17:04:02] <Kibergod> VasilievVV: а ты умеешь настраивать IRC-сервера? [17:04:14] <VasilievVV> Kibergod: немного [17:04:38] <Kibergod> unrealircd умеешь настраивать? [17:04:50] <VasilievVV> Когда-то настраивал [17:09:11] <Kibergod> VasilievVV: но сейчас уже помочь не можешь? [17:09:32] <VasilievVV> Возможно могу. Заваисит от вопроса [17:13:43] <Kibergod> VasilievVV: вопрос - есть рабочие unrealircd и anope - надо из этого сделать рабочий IRC-сервер типа как этот))) [17:14:12] <Kibergod> Kibergod: и кобственно сам - вопрос КАК это сделать???*LOL* [17:14:19] <VasilievVV> А. Я делал между ними линк [17:14:41] <VasilievVV> Там надо настраивать IRC-сервер как hub и Anope как leaf [17:15:51] <Kibergod> VasilievVV: ну я в принципе тоже сделал... линк... вроде как... а как проверить установилась между ними связь или нет? и ещё - в какой поледовательности их запускать? [17:16:27] <VasilievVV> сначала unrealircd [17:16:41] <VasilievVV> Поговри с NickServ [17:17:29] <Kibergod> его щас вроде нет на этом канале [17:17:35] <Kibergod> VasilievVV: его щас вроде нет на этом канале [17:17:58] *VasilievVV убился об стенку [17:18:54] <Kibergod> VasilievVV: я что-то нетак сказал? [17:19:01] <VasilievVV> Эм... [17:19:07] <Kibergod> VasilievVV: что? [17:19:24] <VasilievVV> Введи на сервере у себя: /whois NickServ [17:36:51] <lukas__> Anyone care to help me still? [17:37:08] <lukas__> Because whatever I change or do or fiddle with, it keeps acting the same [17:37:12] <lukas__> or gives a 500 [17:37:13] <lukas__> :D [17:39:54] <brion> lukas__: got any error messages out of it? [17:40:10] <lukas__> Only that /w/index.php doesn't exist [17:40:30] <lukas__> but it does.. The error lies [17:40:56] <CWii> lies? [17:41:08] <CWii> No, Apache never lies. [17:41:25] *CWii is a crystal ball :) [17:41:34] <lukas__> "The requested URL /w/index.php was not found on this server." All lies.. Conspiracy.. Bush's fault [17:42:03] <lukas__> because /w/index.php/Main_Page works [17:42:13] <brion> curious :) [17:42:21] <brion> do you have some kind of rewrite url setup there? [17:42:32] <brion> double-check also it's not the browser complaining about something like a redirect loop [17:42:43] <lukas__> http://rafb.net/p/40nZID88.html [17:42:54] <lukas__> no, firefox has a custom error page for redirect looping [17:46:46] <wikibugs> 03(mod) A clean installation of Translate is not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14495 (10huji.huji) [17:49:42] <brion> lukas__: and it only has this error when the rules are in place? [17:50:21] <lukas__> well like I said, it works when I go to /w/index.php myself.. And then the rules aren't in place I think [17:59:15] <wikibugs> 14(INVALID) (Shortcut) redirects to special pages do not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14684 +comment (10innocentkiller) [18:03:38] <solifugus> Where is the login form produced? (I need to change it from http to https) [18:04:06] <VasilievVV|NA> includes/special/SpecialUserlogin.php [18:08:06] <solifugus> VasilievVV|NA: thanks.. actually, includes/SpecialUserlogin.php [18:08:32] <lukas__> hmm, really strange [18:08:43] <lukas__> the htaccess doesn't seem to know where files are [18:09:43] <lukas__> If I use this line: RewriteRule ^wiki/(.*) index.php?title=$1 where index.php is a file in the public_html folder (same as htaccess), it tells me that file doesn't exist either [18:10:18] <lukas__> While I have a similar rewrite running on a different site I have (different host too) and there it works [18:11:19] <VasilievVV|NA> solifugus: depends upon MediaWiki version [18:12:40] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Remove autoblocks when a user is unblocked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5445 +comment (10maxsem.wiki) [18:13:06] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Remove autoblocks when a user is unblocked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5445 +need-review +patch (10maxsem.wiki) [18:15:16] <lukas__> if my problems are server related.. does anyone know what it could be? [18:16:34] <ins\> Did anyone ever come across something like this: http://wiki.crymod.com/index.php/System_RayWorldIntersection ? (the example part) It's correct @ the edit tab [18:17:33] <solifugus> Is there a proper way of making authentication go through https instead of http? [18:23:32] *^demon is trying to avoid his monthly employment socialization obligations. [18:24:33] <brion> get a job, hippie! ;) [18:25:29] <^demon> ins\: bug 14562 might be of interest [18:25:46] <^demon> brion: I have a job. We have a monthly birthday party thingie in which our director calls you out and you get to shake his hand. [18:26:02] <^demon> I'm avoiding the _socialization_ obligations of said job, not said job itself. [18:26:02] <brion> oh dear [18:26:05] <brion> :DD [18:26:22] <^demon> It was my birthday last month, hence my avoidance. [18:27:12] <ins\> thanks, i'll check it out [18:30:02] <Reedy> Is there a way to find a list of all the pages that have {{DISPLAYTITLE}} [18:30:42] <Sundance_Raphael> hi [18:31:17] <^demon> Reedy: {{NUMBEROFPAGESUSINGDISPLAYTITLE}}? ;-) [18:31:35] <Reedy> ^demon, number is no use :P [18:31:38] <Reedy> Need the actual pages :P [18:33:53] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) DISPLAYTITLE Categorisation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14685 major; normal; MediaWiki: Templates; (sam) [18:34:50] <brion> *grumble* [18:34:56] <brion> parallels keeps hanging upgrading itself [18:34:57] <wikibugs> 03(mod) {{DISPLAYTITLE}} Categorisation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14685 summary (10sam) [18:34:59] <brion> it's really a bit annoying [18:35:14] <Reedy> brion, dont use a mac :P [18:35:33] <brion> :D [18:35:36] <brion> thanks for the advice [18:35:38] <^demon> Reedy: Poke Roan. Maybe something could be added to the API for action=parse? <title>Blahblah -and- ... if applicable. [18:35:51] hmm [18:36:05] ^demon, I've put that bug thats just been reported in... [18:36:09] hopefully get some sort of response :) [18:37:18] 03(mod) {{DISPLAYTITLE}} Categorisation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14685 major->normal; normal->high (10sam) [18:43:26] Hello all, I'm trying to use the "Languages" template but it's not working. I created the "Template:Languages", "Template:Language/Lang" and installed "ParserFunctions" extension [18:44:08] Am I forgetting something? [18:49:16] ? [18:49:32] is anybody in the house? [18:50:10] how do I get a box to select a license to appear on my upload page like the one on Wikipedia? [18:51:18] mhack: it might help if you describe in what way it doesn't work [18:51:23] and link to an example [18:52:42] brion: The "Language" box renders ok, but the page translations are not showed [18:54:03] brion: It's a "closed" wiki, it requires login [18:54:43] I'll try to install the template in an "opened" wiki we have and if the same problem occurs I post it here [18:57:04] "Windows Update is currently installing other updates. Please try again in a few minutes." [18:57:18] i'll never understand how windows update gets more and more confusing in every windows release [18:58:13] then use linux [18:58:17] <^demon> brion: At least installing one update doesn't break the ability to install a bundle of several updates like it used to. [19:05:16] ^demon, your just tempting fate [19:08:19] *^demon goes off and looks fondly at bug 14636, and thinks how nice it would be to begin that. [19:10:06] ok so i was told the standard MW search cannot find 3 and less letter words cos of the index. how come that the simple http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Replace_Text finds everything; even code? [19:10:25] Subfader: probably because it works incredibly inefficiently [19:10:45] nah it's quite simple and does no changes to the DB [19:10:47] which is ok on a very small site that doesn't use the compressed or external text storage options [19:11:08] as far as i can tell, at least you need nothing to do when installing [19:11:58] simpicity does not equate to efficiency [19:12:17] would be worth requesting and extension that uses that search mehod? It's quick and awesome, but atm it doesn't differ between results in title / content [19:12:40] <^demon> Subfader: Replace Text just loads up all of the text and does a massive str_replace() (as far as I can tell from a quick glance at it) [19:12:49] the extenion finds everything and fast. i have 12.000 articles. i dunno what's wrong about it :) [19:12:55] it is quick for small sites [19:13:04] <^demon> Subfader: It throws it in the job queue if it's too big to do in one go. [19:13:16] demon: ok the replace. but the search beforehand is fine [19:13:55] again: yes the replacing text action is done via the job queue. but not the search [19:14:39] i simply hate using it just to find stuff MW's standard search cannot [19:17:10] but i see your points regarding small sites. now i wonder why wikipedia finds 3 letter words while my MW 1.12 doesn't. I was told changing the index to 2 letter words should be well thought about [19:17:26] Subfader: it's because of mysql's default configuration [19:17:34] (wikipedia uses a totally separate search engine) [19:17:41] eek [19:17:46] in theory we could hack around the mysql configuration by appending extra letters to short words [19:18:24] but if you can fix your mysql configuration, just go ahead and do that for now [19:18:44] <^demon> brion: I started playing around with your ForeignAPIRepo this weekend. Your comments of it being very hacky and inefficient are true :-P [19:18:59] hehe [19:19:07] hey i'm amazed it works at all ;) [19:19:14] <^demon> It _does_ work, I will say that. [19:19:24] <^demon> For use on a production site? No way. [19:19:34] yeah that's why it says "hacky and experimental" ;) [19:19:53] ok so how come the extenion finds 2 letter words and even single characters (after a while)? i think it rocks nontheless :) [19:19:53] <^demon> I started toying with the idea of local copies of a remote-gathered file. [19:20:04] things to consider for improvement: batching of requests, more solid caching of lookups [19:20:38] Subfader: probably it does a raw string subsearch or regex search through the raw text of every page (i haven't looked at it) [19:21:02] most such extensions i've seen in the past won't work on non-default configurations as they look in the raw old_text field (which may be compressed or a reference to an external data blob) [19:21:24] as well as of course taking a long time if you have a lot of data [19:21:44] = result may not be 100% accurate? [19:22:02] = may not work at all on a non-default configuration using those storage options [19:22:23] aka "it doesn't scale well" aka "toy solution" [19:22:35] toys can be very useful at the scale they work on :) [19:22:40] indeed [19:22:40] alright i see. so i should be glad im able to search this way at all [19:23:07] brion: that's a quote that could be a lot of fun out of context :) [19:23:18] rawr :D [19:23:41] <^demon> brion: Add it to the quips :-P [19:36:10] I'm trying to write a gadget that displays 2icons next to every article link given out by the system. one for editing and one for moving the article. I don't have much clue so I collected parts of other gadgets so it "should" work :D Can anyone help me out? I have this so far: http://mixesdb.com/db/index.php/MediaWiki:Gadget-EditMoveALot.js [19:45:21] hi, is it possible have two articles with the same name? [19:45:31] not in the same namespace [19:45:47] if this happens what to do? [19:45:51] any suggestion? [19:45:58] what are you trying to do [19:46:45] like a event, city birthday [19:46:59] okay... [19:47:04] each new year happen different things [19:47:04] and? [19:47:20] so edit the current page [19:47:29] hehe [19:47:30] Artcile Name (2) [19:47:44] can be [19:48:01] most common and everyone udnerstand [19:48:04] but it's strange [19:48:08] nah [19:48:26] why mediawiki doesn't add new articles as number [19:48:57] is it a bad idea? [19:49:23] no only if same names are an essential part of your site [19:50:08] not really, just thought in this situation [19:50:22] what i should do on this situation [19:50:28] just this [19:50:37] 03(NEW) Deleted pages do not remove themselves from the watchlist (WP) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14686 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (raymieX) [19:51:51] well you can enter sth like {{DISPLAYTITLE:Artcile Name}} on the Article Name (2) page but still categories and URL wourld read Artcile Name 2 [19:52:02] edit http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes [19:53:05] **so the top heading reads Article Name on Article Name (2) [19:53:11] interesting [19:53:54] easy workaround if that's enough. what bugs me is that cats still list the original name though [19:54:08] 03(NEW) Set type for diff.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14687 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (hartman) [19:54:21] 03(mod) Deleted pages do not remove themselves from the watchlist (WP) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14686 +comment (10innocentkiller) [19:55:09] may [19:55:20] be confusing for users though [19:55:27] yes [19:55:30] it's true [19:56:11] my users are just readers they got no clue so i don#t mind coming up with tricks they don't understand :D [19:56:33] <^demon> brion: Did you notice my addition of $wgAdditionalXMLTypes? Now MimeMagic can detect XML-based mimetypes other than the few that are specifically named :-D [19:56:34] what is your wiki? [19:56:54] mixesdb.com [19:57:31] 03(mod) Deleted pages do not remove themselves from the watchlist (WP) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14686 (10charitwo) [19:57:54] ^demon: haven't reached it yet, but that sounds handy :D [19:58:27] will see [19:58:51] bah, that MimeMagic crap should die [19:59:00] we have handler modules for individual file formats now [19:59:20] they should be triggered by file extension, and should check that the files actually have the desired format [19:59:28] mime type guessing would not be required at all. [19:59:44] Subfader: what you use for comments? [20:00:05] a tweaked version of Extension:Article Comments [20:00:16] <^demon> brion: It was a fixme :-P [20:00:30] 03(mod) Deleted pages do not remove themselves from the watchlist (WP) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14686 +comment (10mike.lifeguard) [20:00:50] do you know awc forum extension? [20:01:03] wc? [20:01:15] awc [20:01:48] 03(FIXED) Set type for diff.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14687 +comment (10innocentkiller) [20:01:53] ah. is it rocking? [20:02:10] http://examples.anotherwebcom.com/wikis/MediaWiki/Category:MediaWiki:Forum [20:02:19] i requested this: [20:02:32] i tried several before and wasted days on tweaking MWBB which sucked in the end. at least it comes with a PM function i still use [20:02:55] awc has pm [20:03:04] lookt this first:http://examples.anotherwebcom.com/wikis/MediaWiki/Forum_Tag [20:03:26] and i requested this: http://examples.anotherwebcom.com/wikis/MediaWiki/Special:AWCforum/?action=st%2Fid557%2FForum_tag_feature_request [20:03:35] so will work like a comments [20:03:41] what do you think? [20:05:26] well i don't liek the topics being held in Pages in category "MediaWiki:Forum" but i like the view of http://www.htpcnz.net/Special:AWCforum [20:06:23] why don't you use it? [20:07:24] what do you think about this one too http://www.gizmogarden.com/index.php/Ajax_whos_online [20:07:29] i give ideas to it [20:07:36] look the todo list [20:07:51] i always wanted to catalog my city using mediawiki [20:07:56] but i'm not a dev [20:07:59] as said i tried MWBB and no one posted. no community thang going on on my wiki. mostyl anonymous visitors. mostyl cos my wiki is a info ressource and no one contributes. wiki markup is too complicated for them ;) [20:08:08] i wrote about it on http://www.gizmogarden.com/index.php/City_Documentation_Project [20:08:24] <^demon> my wiki has 3 users. all me :-P [20:08:31] <^demon> 1 is currently blocked indef. [20:08:38] hehe [20:08:44] satrt a forum and quote yourself. [20:08:47] what is your wiki demon [20:08:52] <^demon> localhost/wiki/ [20:09:01] hehe [20:09:01] <^demon> ;-) [20:09:14] are you a dev demon [20:09:21] look what i want [20:09:29] maybe you want to help as free [20:09:33] <^demon> when brion doesn't revert me, yes. [20:09:36] <^demon> ;-) [20:09:58] why? [20:10:05] revert you [20:10:20] <^demon> Because brion doesn't let people check in code that breaks. [20:10:46] i asked you if you want to help on my wiki [20:11:07] what this has to do with code that breaks [20:11:18] <^demon> Nevermind, I'm off work everybody. [20:11:23] *^demon waves around. [20:12:09] byeeeeeee ^demon [20:16:42] hey was i blind before or is it new that commons lists thumbnails for image results? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=display+title+as&go=Go [20:16:54] 1.13 feature? [20:17:11] me likes [20:18:24] been there a little while :) [20:18:25] Subfader: has been there for a month or so. [20:18:27] but i'm glad you enjoy [20:19:20] so 1.13? [20:20:01] si [20:20:43] just another reason to keep nagging here when 1.13 will be compiled finally ;) [20:22:38] well, would like this even more as gadget to turn it off for users who don't like it. [20:24:32] 03(mod) Add translation for "UTC" in signatures for Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14452 (10brion) [20:38:16] unilinky, ! [20:38:19] Yay! [20:40:04] what is unilinky? [20:40:34] [[Test]] [20:41:23] i dont think its programmed for this chan [20:41:25] hello [20:41:28] hi [20:41:55] I want to use mediawiki in turkish language [20:41:58] is it possible? [20:43:10] anybody here [20:43:28] i think so [20:49:32] brion: you modified Special:Interwiki. Does that mean we have some chances to get it installed on Wikimedia? [20:51:25] mebbe mebbe not [20:51:30] i just hate seeing wrong code ;) [20:52:13] brion: now changing interwiki map requires to change interwiki table on each project, right? [20:53:13] it requires running a script [20:53:43] Which is not on cron, right? [21:01:58] 03(mod) {{DISPLAYTITLE}} Categorisation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14685 +comment (10overlordq) [21:09:28] I have been searching the FAQ for a few days and having difficulty finding out why my Image:abc.png does not display an image only a link can anyone help [21:10:23] l337h4l: link to your page pls [21:11:59] Hello everyone [21:12:57] brion: http://ps2-project.org/ps2p/includes/wiki/index.php5?title=TESTING [21:14:13] EUps2pflag.png‎ (file size: 78 KB, MIME type: text/plain) [21:14:21] l337h4l: somethign wrong with the mime type detection [21:14:33] have you tried the 'file -bi' trick in the faq? [21:14:33] 03(mod) {{DISPLAYTITLE}} Categorisation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14685 (10sam) [21:14:45] no let me search [21:15:08] I am hoping & wondering if anyone can tell me if something I'd like to do on a internal wiki is possible. Specifically I'm trying to embed the history of a page into the main article. Anyone know if and how it can be done? [21:15:28] db0: I don't think so [21:15:51] :-/ [21:17:04] The only thing I've thought to do at the moment is perhaps to take the history feed and (using a plugin or another way?) display it on the article [21:17:18] brion? $wgMimeDetectorCommand? [21:18:17] yup [21:18:53] Just in case anyone thinks of anything (or sees this later), I've opened a quetion here: http://getsatisfaction.com/wikipedia/topics/how_do_i_add_the_history_of_a_page_in_the_main_article [21:18:56] Thanks! [21:20:30] 03(NEW) User isn't allowed to upload, but there is no permission error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14688 normal; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (robin_1273) [21:22:38] 03(NEW) Add $mediaWiki object to 'MediawikiPerformAction' hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14689 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (hoggwild5) [21:23:29] db0: the PageBy extension provides a way to include an abridged history. it can relatively simply be hacked to provide the full history, too, though that's not what it was designed for [21:23:51] the idea of PageBy was to provide information about authorship, not so much about the page history [21:24:24] thanks a bunch Duesentrieb ! :D [21:24:46] I'll give it a go as soon as possible [21:29:13] *Charitwo hugs CIA-54 [21:29:13] *CIA-54 hugs Charitwo [21:30:22] *Alexfusco5 kills CIA-54 [21:30:22] *CIA-54 dies [21:30:30] *Alexfusco5 kills Charitwo [21:33:08] Hi all! Is someone here using "Languages" template in your wikis? [21:33:31] brion $wgMimeDetectorCommand = "file --brief --mime"; [21:33:36] does not work [21:33:48] nor does file -bi [21:35:00] I just tried everything I could but nothing, the links aren't appearing in the Languages box [21:35:37] l337h4l: it will not work for images that are already there. try a fresh upload [21:35:50] l337h4l: if that doesn#t work, check those commands on the command line [21:35:58] 03daniel * r36825 10/trunk/extensions/CategoryTree/ (CategoryTree.php CategoryTreeFunctions.php): support common tag attributes [21:36:13] mhack: uh, what language box do you mean? the one in the navigation bar? [21:36:22] I'm using mediawiki version 1.12.0 [21:36:42] mhack: there's a difference between language links between wikis, and inside the same wiki. [21:36:43] *Splarka yawns rudely [21:37:17] *Duesentrieb hates the way svn insists of chaning file permissions [21:37:21] Duesentrieb: I'm using that "Language" and "Language/Lang" templates to link pages translations [21:37:48] *Splarka suggests dues type: !langlinks [21:37:51] mhack: inside one wiki, then. so... did you install those templates? did you install all prerequisites? [21:37:58] Splarka: but that'S not it [21:38:45] 03(NEW) Add PLURAL capability to MediaWiki: categorytree-member-counts message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14690 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CategoryTree; (uv.wiki) [21:39:06] Duesentrieb: I think so. The only prerequisite I found was the ParserFunctions extensions and the templates [21:39:31] probably. so... what odes not work? got a link? [21:39:54] Duesentrieb: no links to translated pages (subpages) [21:40:47] 03(mod) Add PLURAL capability to MediaWiki: categorytree-member-counts message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14690 (10raimond.spekking) [21:40:59] mhack: did you enable subpages on the namespace you are using that with (not sure if that's neccessary, but it might be) [21:41:09] Duesentrieb thanks it worked a fresh upload :) [21:41:22] I even cleared cache prior [21:42:00] Duesentrieb: yes, I did. I can see the "< basename" in the subpages [21:42:39] l337h4l: the cache has nothing to do with it. the mime type is detected on upload and written to the database. [21:43:07] Duesentrieb: Can you access this URL: http://200.225.93.156/wiki/index.php/Sandbox:Page1 [21:43:07] mhack: don't know then, sorry. these auto-detecting language templates are evil :) [21:43:23] sorry [21:43:24] wrong URL [21:43:25] mhack: perhaps look into alternatives. like the Polyglot extension. [21:43:56] http://200.225.93.156:8078/wiki/index.php/Sandbox:Page1 [21:44:23] and what subpages exist? [21:44:45] Duesentrieb: /pt-br and /ja [21:45:39] Duesentrieb: I'll take a look in the Polyglot [21:45:52] Template:Languages gives me a headache [21:46:39] give what? [21:47:05] heh, that's interesting [21:47:14] {{#ifexist:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|foo|bar}} returns bar [21:47:27] >_< [21:48:21] Duesentrieb: "headache", ok :) [21:50:25] *Duesentrieb is going to bed [22:00:35] 14(INVALID) spam filter reports first url matching blacklist, even if whitelisted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11121 +comment (10email_metawiki_138) [22:09:12] 03(NEW) archive-bots probably will fail on blocked links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14691 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Spam Blacklist; (email_metawiki_138) [22:09:16] 03(mod) Spam blacklist, if match, check previous version and accept if URL present there - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1505 (10email_metawiki_138) [22:21:02] New question for all: Is there any way to transclude the contents of a redirect, and not of its target? [22:27:33] ' [22:27:43] (whoops sorry) [22:38:11] a redirect deosn't have any contents. . . . [22:38:13] *doesn't [22:40:11] It can. [22:40:14] It's just all ignored for display. [22:40:21] Except categories, I think. [22:58:36] Simetrical is right. What I ultimately intend is to establish a sytem of pages that correspond to redirects sort of like template documentation does [22:58:49] I might be back but I'm afraid I have to go now [23:14:01] hi, does anyone here use semanticmediawiki? [23:19:15] Hello. I am looking for a way to strip line breaks from the wikicode I am writing. I wrote an extention for this fine, but the extention's output contains a category tag and it dosn't seem to be recognizing the tag (i.e. properly categorizing the article). [23:27:14] 03ashley * r36826 10/trunk/extensions/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [23:27:14] Two new extensions from Wikia: [23:27:14] *RandomUsersWithAvatars - a parser hook to show randomly chosen user avatars. Cannot be used without SocialProfile extension. [23:27:14] *WikiTextLoggedInOut - defines two new parser hooks to show different output depending on the users' login state. Can be used to support SocialProfile or as a stand-alone extension. [23:27:17] Original code by Wikia's New York Office, some improvements by me. [23:29:19] \o/ [23:31:22] what about the famous Wikia extension TakeCacheBackBehindTheChemicalShedsAndShootItInTheBackOfTheHead [23:34:23] 03(mod) archive-bots probably will fail on blocked links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14691 (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [23:37:08] Wikia: "You can either attempt to cache us, separately for logged in users and anon, with randomizations both server side and client side, advertisements, social profiling, user specific magic words, and anonmous cookies, or ..." Cache: "Thank you, but I'd rather die behind the chemical sheds." [23:39:06] *Charitwo throws a bunch of js at Splarka [23:39:26] *Splarka eeps and disables js [23:39:31] Maybe it's just lazy. [23:40:23] well, to cache randomSelection extension, eg , it'd have to do some silly stuff, like parse every