[00:05:11] 03brion * r37014 10/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [00:05:11] Revert r37006 -- causes fatal errors: [00:05:11] PHP Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in Article.php on line 135 [00:06:01] 04(REOPENED) Stable Redirects are broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14714 +comment (10brion) [01:10:17] 03(NEW) robots.txt (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14720 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (danny.b) [01:10:20] 03(mod) Disallow ia_archiver on user and user_talk pages (robots.txt) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5582 (10danny.b) [01:10:28] 03(mod) Exclusion to robots.txt file for en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10648 (10danny.b) [01:10:38] 03(mod) robots.txt for no.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11432 (10danny.b) [01:10:46] 03(mod) Concealing search results that are listed in robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13439 (10danny.b) [01:10:53] 03(mod) Adding Danish language pages to robots - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13844 (10danny.b) [01:11:00] 03(mod) add user talk namespace of En.Wikipedia to Robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13890 (10danny.b) [01:11:09] 03(mod) Add Wikipedia:Spam-Blacklist-Log to robots.txt for dewiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13961 (10danny.b) [01:11:18] *Charitwo bops Danny_B [01:11:18] 03(mod) Meta: Exclude spam reports from indexing via robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14076 (10danny.b) [01:11:25] 03(mod) robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14393 (10danny.b) [01:11:32] 03(mod) Expansion of robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14419 (10danny.b) [01:11:42] 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2007 (10danny.b) [01:11:54] /* EOF */ [01:12:02] :o [01:13:30] i have a newbie question [01:14:11] !ask | davidstillson [01:14:11] --mwbot-- davidstillson: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [01:15:09] could anyone confirm wether php changePassword.php works or not? [01:15:12] ok, how do I add a featured article box to the main page of my wiki? [01:16:46] davidstillson: i'd suggest to check the source of eg. en wikipedia to see how it works [01:17:05] you _may_ need some configuration settings on your wiki as well [01:17:31] but most probably checking and copypasting the source should work [01:18:30] You will ned parserfunctions, for swtich [01:18:48] for a randomized article choice at least. [01:19:17] simple fa by date is doable without parserfunctions though [01:24:25] anyone? [01:28:47] alnokta: I've used it, it works [01:31:40] jlerner, it doesn't give any errors but the wiki still says incorrect password, adminsettings.php is set [01:35:18] 03(NEW) Renaming global accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14721 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (mike.lifeguard) [01:38:45] 03(mod) jsMsg should work with modern skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14420 (10danny.b) [01:38:52] 03(mod) JavaScript (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2114 (10danny.b) [01:41:19] I can't seem to find anything in the documentation about this: how can I change the text on the Special:Upload page? [01:42:16] !allmessages [01:42:16] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "allmessages". [01:42:36] danhm, view Special:AllMessages for a list of all messages. [01:42:36] You should find the message you need to edit there. [01:43:41] thank you [01:44:29] 03(mod) Watchlist summarised protection log actions should link to the affected page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14470 +need-review +patch (10danny.b) [01:44:54] danhm: MediaWiki:Uploadtext [01:49:52] Simetrical, could you look at changePassword.php? [01:50:09] Hey, for the spam blacklist, is it blacklisting editsummaries too? [01:51:58] Not unless it changed very recently [01:52:03] but there is an extension which does that [01:52:12] SpamRegex I think [01:52:23] Mike_lifeguard, it changed very recently. [01:52:24] IIRC. [01:52:35] And alnokta, I'm going to bed now. [01:52:35] So not now. [01:52:35] really?! [01:52:43] Mike_lifeguard, pretty sure I saw someone commit that. [01:52:44] that makes me very happy [01:52:45] Try it out. [01:52:51] *Mike_lifeguard does... [01:52:56] Simetrical, could you remember to look when you wake up? [01:54:10] alnokta, e-mail me. It may or may not be tomorrow, maybe Sunday, I don't know. What's the problem anyway? [01:54:23] Well, good night. [01:54:27] Soxred93: yes, it now blocks edit summaries! :DD [01:54:32] Simetrical, its not working.. night [01:54:33] YES [01:54:41] I knoww! [01:54:45] I wonder if all *.nimp.org sites are blacklisted... [01:55:02] [[m:Talk:Spam blacklist]] [01:55:21] (if not, I mean) [01:55:33] 03(mod) custom classes for different wiki families - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14549 (10danny.b) [01:55:42] 03(mod) CSS (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12788 (10danny.b) [01:55:51] Yes, nimp.org is blocked [01:56:00] So I wonder what site Grawp is using now... [01:56:28] only one way to find out :\ [01:56:50] 03(NEW) UniversalEditButton shows edit button on edit page. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14722 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (tylerromeo) [01:58:05] 03(mod) wikibits/insertTags issue on Opera 9.5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14585 (10danny.b) [01:58:12] 03(mod) JavaScript (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2114 (10danny.b) [01:59:27] 03demon * r37015 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/File.php: Typo in variable name. [02:02:23] 03(mod) central-auth ALT message for browsers with images disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14597 +accessibility (10danny.b) [02:02:28] 03(mod) Markup accessibility issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367 (10danny.b) [02:17:47] 03(NEW) API: consider adding time zone and writing direction to meta=siteinfo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14723 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (Wiki.Melancholie) [02:22:32] 03demon * r37016 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Use Http::get() rather than wfGetHttp() [which is otherwise unused and could stand removal) [02:22:34] Is Wikia not supporting or posting upgrades to the SocialProfile extension? [02:22:46] LauraHale: sorta [02:22:52] supposedly they are going to release all the code [02:23:35] The version that is up is just a bit buggy. [02:23:43] very [02:24:58] Ah well. It wasn't something that was getting much use and what it could be used for, it had errors with. [02:25:51] 03demon * r37017 10/trunk/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php: Remove wfGetHTTP() and wfIsLocalUrl(). Unused wrapper functions for stuff in the Http class. [02:33:55] anyone else watch Arrested Development? [02:34:02] When i have tv [02:34:04] which isn't very often [02:39:49] Hi [02:40:29] I have a problem with Extension:Category Suggest. It does not Suggest Categories...I Just get an Ordinary Category Input Box [02:40:51] Have you looked over the talk page? [02:42:37] Just checking it. I'll get back if it doesn't help me [02:43:35] I made pages about Arrested Development on my wiki and a family member owns it on DVD. That's as close as I've come to watching it. [02:52:56] 03tstarling * r37018 10/trunk/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php: [02:52:56] Revert r37017. Please do not remove functions unless you have a really really [02:52:56] good reason, say because you actually want to break all extensions that use them [02:52:56] because the underlying functionality needs to be removed. There are more [02:52:56] extensions out of Wikimedia version control than in it, and many sysadmins will [02:52:59] not update their extensions simultaneously with the core. [02:56:26] sabotage! [02:56:36] is there an easy way to automate the purging of a cached page? I have a page that contains an include of another dynamic web page. the page on our wiki is combining user documentation with system generated information. [02:56:53] ?action=purge is the only way i know of [02:57:24] jdownie: you could invalidate the cache of a given page with a script - then next time it comes up, it'll have to be regenerated [02:57:26] yeah, but it expects you to click okay. is there an ?action=purge&donotaskme [02:57:43] ooh jlerner, that sounds good [02:57:51] you can also instal a cace-invalidating extension [02:57:53] +l [02:58:15] got a link? [02:58:28] *Splarka bahs, digs through his back pockets [02:58:46] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RandomSelection I think this one does, still [02:59:01] $parser->disableCache(); on pages it is sued on [02:59:05] used, heh [02:59:07] freudian [02:59:08] jdownie: maintenance/purgeList.php [02:59:58] The other option I used when I needed this done was to add a cron job to purge the cache, that way you still have a cahce most of the day to serve the page faster. Splarka's way is much easier [03:00:40] and of course, much less efficient [03:01:21] Depends on how you look at it :) The page speed difference with the cache was enough to make it more efficient for me. [03:01:52] i'm a little confused. do I put $parser->disableCache(); in LocalSettings.php? [03:02:34] No, just use that extensio on the page you are looking to prevent the cache on. [03:02:58] RandomSelection? [03:03:05] Yes [03:03:14] okay. i'll give it a go. thanks [03:04:46] or you could make a generic extension, strip that one down to just the cache disabling feature and rename the tags or sommat [03:10:15] thanks for your help! that's done the trick. [03:23:22] Alright I'm having a problem with the interwiki map. I can't seem to get a link from my site to resolve to the main wikipedia. Are there any related configuration options? [03:30:22] 03(mod) Draft tab does not disappear after sighting - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14561 +comment (10tim) [03:31:58] Yurtle: do you have any corresponding entries in your interwiki map? [03:32:43] I was under the impression that every release contains them. [03:35:01] ahh, the fault is there [03:35:19] I don't think any release contains them, except maybe some packages that contain a basic set [03:35:34] !interwiki [03:35:34] --mwbot-- Interwiki links are links between wikis. For instance, on Wikibooks, [[w:Article name]] or [[Wikipedia:Article name]] will link to a Wikipedia article. To set up interwiki links, see and . For easy configuration, use [03:36:10] Hmmm I've been looking over my DB. it has 173 of them. Proably the ones that were standard when I first installed. [03:36:21] be aware there are two kinds: local and unlocal, and two types: interwiki and interlanguage [03:37:39] local are ones on domains you control and trust, and the interdomain bounce works on them. language links are interwikis you set up that match the applied ISO language names in /languages/names.php, and will not show inline by default, eg [[fr:foo]] will show up in "in other languages" [03:38:06] hmm, is there one for Wikipedia? [03:38:30] oddly no. there is a commons, source, books, etc [03:38:55] is there a w: ? [03:39:26] anyway, set one up for Wikipedia ^_^ [03:39:33] Nope lol I'm putting it in now [03:42:26] the "bounce" is when they work as a URL prefix: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/fr:foo for local interlanguage links... [03:42:40] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/m:foo for local interwiki links (m: being meta.wikimedia) [03:43:02] mw: for example, is not local, it points to mediawiki.org > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/mw:foo [03:43:23] Kkk [03:43:25] as inline links, the first step is resolved for you, so no bounce is needed [03:43:35] ummm poor choice for the # of ks [03:43:47] [[mw:foo]] renders as etc [03:43:55] Well adding that DB entry makes the links resolve properly [03:44:13] but using bounces, you can chain them, as long as only the first is non-local, eg: [[fr:zh:de:m:foo]] [03:44:20] heh k [03:46:10] I just wanted to get this goin, figure wikipedia gives me links might as well return the favor. [03:50:05] 03(mod) Change autoconfirmed days limit in Chinese Wikipedia. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14624 (10N/A) [05:31:28] Is there a convenient way to move images without re-uploading them? eg. from [[Image:LocA.gif]] to [[Image:LocB.gif]] [05:48:30] Wyvernoid: on Wikipedia/Commons or your own wiki? [05:48:41] own wiki [05:48:57] which version of MediaWiki do you use? [05:49:08] latest 1.12.0 [05:49:40] not in 1.12.0. code for moving images is in 1.13 alpha but experimental [05:49:56] ohh [05:50:05] hi, i am making a bot for a site that uses MediaWiki, and i was wondering how to update the contents of a page on the wiki? (the wiki is too old to support action=edit) [05:50:06] is there a way to make use of that code? [05:50:24] Wyvernoid: I fear nearly impossible [05:50:31] i try using index.php?action=edit but it tells me it has lost session data and i shoudl try logging out and logging back in [05:51:23] Raymond_afk: so the only way is to re-upload (at least atm)? [05:51:36] Wyvernoid: yes [05:51:48] okay, thanks [05:51:51] immibis: which version of MediaWiki [05:52:18] not sure, how do i find out? [05:52:25] Special:version [05:58:52] 03(mod) Block log below block form limited to 50 entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14638 (10nakonwiki) [06:01:27] 03(mod) Block log below block form limited to 50 entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14638 +patch (10raimond.spekking) [06:48:00] 03siebrand * r37019 10/trunk/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php: Trying to resolve commit r37017/revert r37018: Throw an E_USER_NOTICE saying that function is deprecated for wfGetHTTP() and wfIsLocalURL() [06:55:13] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs Patrolling Configuration on Classical Chinese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14715 summary (10itsminecookies) [07:03:14] 03(NEW) interwiki transcluding with part of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14724 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (hugoborrell) [07:16:58] 03mkroetzsch * r37020 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/storage/SMW_SQLStore.php: for the moment, this store ignores the new concept descriptions [07:18:21] 03siebrand * r37021 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (95 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-07-04 22:44 CEST) [07:26:24] 03siebrand * r37022 10/trunk/extensions/ (80 files in 71 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-07-04 22:44 CEST) [07:27:08] hello, can anybody tell me, what 'Eb error/error.php' means? i get this, when i want to see an image saved in mediawiki 1.7.1 [07:34:57] 03nicdumz * r37023 10/branches/category-redirects/: New fresh branch for category redirects [07:37:36] dang, branches and trunk aren't using the same repo, can't switch from one to another :) [07:38:09] is there any idea, or where could i ask else? [07:40:12] wait a minute. I was just being stupid, as usual :) [07:48:08] 03mkroetzsch * r37024 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (SMW_QueryProcessor.php storage/SMW_Description.php): [07:48:08] New Concept query description for representing concepts internally, [07:48:08] extended query parsing to detect these, [07:48:08] drop support for printouts with "*" unless smwgSMWBetaCompatible is true [07:49:12] 03(mod) API: consider adding time zone and writing direction to meta= siteinfo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14723 (10maxsem.wiki) [07:49:31] 03(mod) API: consider adding time zone and writing direction to meta= siteinfo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14723 +need-review +patch (10maxsem.wiki) [07:56:44] 03mkroetzsch * r37025 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_Settings.php: Extended docu for $smwgSMWBetaCompatible [08:14:51] 03mkroetzsch * r37027 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_GlobalFunctions.php: [08:14:51] Instead of just removing the Relation: namespace on newer wikis, make it an alias for the property namespace. [08:14:51] This should simplify upgrade to older wikis that still have links to "relations". [08:19:03] 03nikerabbit * r37028 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/Translate.css: * Bugfix [08:19:56] oh please [08:20:02] *Nikerabbit beats CIA-54 to death [08:20:53] is there a kludge that will let you use "#" in page titles? [08:20:56] it is frigging year 2008 and neither svn mailer nor CIA handles utf-8 [08:21:33] Messedrocker: no, as it would be dubious when it's real # and when it's an anchor [08:21:45] That's why I asked if there's a *kludge* [08:23:06] javascript ^_^ [08:23:27] you could stick it in and <h1 class="firstHeading"> anyway, not the URI [08:29:43] <CIA-54> 03nikerabbit * r37029 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (README Translate.php scripts/poimport.php): * 2008-07-04:1 poimport uses correct namespace [08:31:17] <CIA-54> 03nicdumz * r37030 10/branches/category-redirects/maintenance/tables.sql: [08:31:17] <CIA-54> Schema change, per http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/38832 : [08:31:17] <CIA-54> * cl_to is not anymore a varchar, but an unsigned int, and is renamed to cl_inline [08:31:17] <CIA-54> * Adding cl_target [08:31:17] <CIA-54> * Adding cat_redir [08:35:06] <_wooz> lo [08:35:40] <CIA-54> 03siebrand * r37031 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/voctrain/i18n/language.i18n.php: Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki [08:38:45] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Rename Spam blacklist to "URL exclusion list" or "URL Blacklist " - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14719 (10erwin85) [08:40:05] <Kardan> so you wont answer me?! [08:42:10] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Block log below block form limited to 50 entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14638 +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [08:52:20] <CIA-54> 03mkroetzsch * r37032 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_GlobalFunctions.php: autoload for new concept description object [08:53:11] <CIA-54> 03mkroetzsch * r37033 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/storage/SMW_SQLStore2_Queries.php: [08:53:11] <CIA-54> implemented concept queries [[Concept:Something]] works like [[Catgory:Something]] in queries ("dynamic [08:53:11] <CIA-54> categories") [08:55:16] <aton`> is there a possibility to disable skin switching for users? [08:55:34] <aton`> i have lots of style changes but only in monobook.css, and users shouldnt be able to switch [09:00:42] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Technical updates to bs.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13451 15enhancement->normal; +comment (10demicx) [09:08:14] <mondschein> Does anybody know where i find the parameters $2 and $1-->This page was last modified $2, $1. ? [09:10:04] <Nikerabbit> find how? [09:10:37] <mondschein> nikerabbit: what do you mean with "how"? (sorry my english is not so good) [09:12:38] <Nikerabbit> mondschein: what do you want to do with the parameters? [09:12:59] <mondschein> oh ok...those parameter show the last changes time... [09:13:18] <mondschein> but in my wiki the show the wrong time instead of the last changes time the show the last last changes time [09:13:27] <mondschein> that's why i want to look them up [09:13:41] <Splarka> aton`: it is possible, don't know how though [09:14:44] <Splarka> mondschein: http://www.google.com/codesearch?hl=en&lr=&q=package%3Asvn.wikimedia.org%2Fsvnroot%2Fmediawiki%2Ftrunk+file%3Aphase3%2Fincludes+lastmodifiedat&sbtn=Search [09:14:48] <Nikerabbit> maybe it contains something that causes it to be reparsed often [09:15:09] <mondschein> i just found out that {{CURRENTTIME}} gives me the wrong time...maybe that's the problem [09:15:12] <Splarka> it is called in Skin.php and Credits.php [09:15:33] <Splarka> oop, atby is different, so just in Skin ^_^ [09:16:10] <Splarka> so $2 is: $t = $wgLang->time( $timestamp, true ); [09:16:17] <mondschein> mhm i think lastchanges is wrong because the "wikitime" is wrong? does that make sense? but where do i set the wiki time? [09:16:47] <mondschein> yeah have to change wiki time then it should be ok [09:17:12] <mondschein> has anybody an idea where to change that...maybe via wiki? [09:21:24] <CIA-54> 03vasilievvv * r37034 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQuerySiteinfo.php): [09:21:24] <CIA-54> * (bug 14723) Added time zone and writing direction to meta=siteinfo. Patch by MaxSem [09:21:24] <CIA-54> * Some random cleanup [09:23:59] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) API: consider adding time zone and writing direction to meta= siteinfo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14723 +comment (10vasilvv) [09:24:34] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Draft tab does not disappear after sighting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14561 (10JSchulz_4587) [09:27:57] <Nikerabbit> VasilievVV: what happens we get first up-to-down right-to-left language :) [09:30:50] <VasilievVV> Nikerabbit: ew? [09:32:30] <Nikerabbit> OverlordQ: thanks [09:35:30] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Rename Spam blacklist to "URL exclusion list" or "URL Blacklist " - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14719 +comment (10herbythyme) [09:38:26] <CIA-54> 03aaron * r37035 10/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Re-commit fixed r37006 [09:39:12] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Stable Redirects are broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14714 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [09:42:00] <CIA-54> 03huji * r37036 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: Localisation updates: Adding/updating Persian translations [09:46:39] <mondschein> does anybody know where i can set the time of my wiki, which is shown as current time? [09:47:11] <CIA-54> 03mkroetzsch * r37037 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [09:47:11] <CIA-54> New more fine grained control over inline query features, e.g. to only allow category intersections, or even [09:47:11] <CIA-54> just single categories (easy and presumably fast, does not even need semantic data in wiki). [09:49:05] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Add localizations hints to newly set up wiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14681 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:55:04] <wikibugs> 03(mod) UTF-8 Bug: umlaut misdisplayed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=781 (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:57:48] <wikibugs> 03(mod) MediaWiki: Prefs-memberingroups should be top-aligned and not followed by a colon - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14590 (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:59:20] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Rename Spam blacklist to "URL exclusion list" or "URL Blacklist " - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14719 +comment (10djbeetstra) [10:00:32] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Allow localization of the magic words ISBN, RFC, PMID - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13335 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [10:02:38] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Localization of some special pages in Arabic - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10502 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [10:24:36] <CIA-54> 03nicdumz * r37038 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LinksUpdate.php: 6 array_diff_* were computed twice. Compute once, and remember them instead. [10:31:03] <CIA-54> 03nicdumz * r37039 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LinksUpdate.php: syntax fix [10:34:53] <Splarka> Rar roan [10:34:55] <CIA-54> 03nikerabbit * r37040 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 4 dirs): * (bug 11732) Allow localisation of edit button images [10:35:27] <Nikerabbit> hi Splarka [10:35:40] <Splarka> idle question: even though you can seem to use a delete/protect/edit token as a block token, if those ever become different (in a given session), how can one grab a block token if API edit happens to be disabled? [10:35:58] <Splarka> rar nike [10:36:32] <VasilievVV> hi RoanKattouw [10:36:38] <RoanKattouw> Hi folks [10:37:48] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Allow localization of edit button images in LanguageXYZ.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11732 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [10:39:52] <RoanKattouw> Splarka: All those tokens are the same; only some tokens (like rollback) are based on usernames and page names [10:40:32] <RoanKattouw> Note that if API edit is disabled, that means *all write modules* are disabled, *including block*, so I think your question is moot [10:41:11] <RoanKattouw> Simetrical: I still don't get why http://rafb.net/p/C4i57A33.html is so bad, does it have to do with the high number in 'rows [10:41:15] <RoanKattouw> ' for categorylinks? [10:41:19] <Splarka> well [10:41:33] <Splarka> I think allowing edit/protect/delete token-getting via GET without write, is GOOD [10:41:42] <RoanKattouw> True [10:41:48] <Splarka> but not allowing block, is bad, not moot [10:42:01] <Splarka> just one little bear's opinion [10:42:11] <RoanKattouw> Well wait a minute what on earth could you *do* with those tokens once you have them? [10:42:21] <Splarka> oh, I dunno, block?? [10:42:28] <RoanKattouw> It's disabled, remember? [10:42:31] <Splarka> ... [10:42:37] <Splarka> look at it this way [10:42:40] <Splarka> with write disabled.. [10:42:46] <RoanKattouw> Unless you wanna do it through the UI... in which case you're probably screenscraping the token already [10:42:50] <wikibugs> 03(mod) kkwiki doesn't get MediaWiki:Common.js from DB after r29945 - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12717 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [10:42:53] <Splarka> you can still get all the info you need from the API to protect, move, edit, delete [10:43:05] <Splarka> and you can submit it via index.php without screen scraping [10:43:11] <Splarka> you can't do that with block [10:43:28] <RoanKattouw> True [10:43:59] <Splarka> a bot framework can probably easily be made to work with or without API edit enabled with some simple checking and form changes [10:44:01] <VasilievVV> Splarka: I just reused token when I need to run bot with renameuser interface [10:44:03] <Splarka> except for blocking [10:44:26] <Splarka> (unless you blindly trust the token, as VvVV points out) ^_^ [10:44:45] <Splarka> but is there any guarantee the edit token for block will always match edit/move/protect/delete? [10:44:51] <VasilievVV> No [10:44:55] <RoanKattouw> Splarka: Not indefinitely [10:45:03] <RoanKattouw> But that can only happen if: [10:45:17] <RoanKattouw> A) the edit, move, protect and delete tokens ALL start depending on pagenames [10:45:26] <RoanKattouw> B) the block token starts depending on usernames [10:45:36] <Splarka> well, now there is a C) [10:45:36] <RoanKattouw> In case B you'll need to go through action=block anyway [10:45:47] <Splarka> c) if each *type* of action gets its own token [10:46:09] <RoanKattouw> Is that being discussed? Not that I'm aware of. Also, it would be completely pointless [10:46:13] <Splarka> like, salting with the action name (crazier things have happened) [10:46:15] <Splarka> heh [10:46:24] *Splarka shrugs [10:46:24] <RoanKattouw> TBH I don't think the current token system will change [10:46:35] <VasilievVV> So do I [10:46:52] <Splarka> well, then why not just have one token? and if still insisting on having separate for move/delete/edit/protect, why not add block? [10:46:58] <crucially> http://trac.wikia-code.com/browser/utils/varnishhtcpd/varnishhtcpd [10:47:04] <RoanKattouw> The only reason the rollback token depends on username is to prevent "rollback conflicts" [10:47:16] <RoanKattouw> Splarka: Because block tokens have no relation to pages? [10:47:31] <Splarka> that's like saying Blocks have no relation to pages [10:47:55] <RoanKattouw> That's true, they don't, except maybe to user pagess [10:47:55] <Splarka> when actually they do, the logs are stored in relation to the page names [10:48:03] <RoanKattouw> True [10:48:06] <Splarka> (the target anyway) [10:48:14] <RoanKattouw> I guess I could add intoken=block for user pages [10:48:24] *Splarka bestows cookies ^_^ [10:48:26] <RoanKattouw> But I'll have to keep the action=block&gettoken interface around for BC [10:48:43] <Splarka> well, yah, that might be good to have for all of them actually [10:48:47] <Splarka> (double redundancy) [10:48:49] <RoanKattouw> Yeah [10:48:56] <RoanKattouw> Well not for edit/move/protect/delete [10:48:59] <Splarka> btw, how do you get tokens for extensions? [10:49:05] <RoanKattouw> Splarka: Up to the extension [10:49:10] <Splarka> well, in the API that is [10:49:13] <RoanKattouw> I'll add a hook that is [10:49:15] <RoanKattouw> Ooops [10:49:22] <RoanKattouw> I'll add a hook to prop=info too [10:49:27] <Splarka> ahh k [10:49:38] <Splarka> could some generic syntax do it? [10:49:46] <Splarka> (or would it be too unpredictable) [10:50:01] <RoanKattouw> What do you mean generic syntax? Like your PHP "skills"? ;) [10:50:08] <Splarka> yep [10:50:11] <crucially> to make varnish work with mediawiki purges [10:50:13] <RoanKattouw> I don't think so [10:50:14] <crucially> in an effective way [10:50:31] <Splarka> eg &action=getextensiontoken&geaction=Special:Renameuser [10:50:49] <RoanKattouw> Splarka: How about extensions just add stuff to the intoken parameter? [10:50:59] <Splarka> well, yes, but will they? [10:51:05] <Splarka> extensions are lazy, or maybe it is the authors [10:51:09] <RoanKattouw> Yes, through that hook of mine [10:51:17] *Splarka grins [10:51:22] <Splarka> just force them to use it now <3 [10:51:30] <CIA-54> 03nicdumz * r37041 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LinksUpdate.php: Correcting commit 37038 : only getXXXDeletions were simple array_diff_assoc. Sorry [10:51:36] <Splarka> crucially: does it work good? with anon cookies too? [10:51:46] <crucially> anon cookies? [10:52:15] <NicDumZ> damn. 3 commits for a simple fix :( [10:52:16] <Splarka> well, I remember Wikia's cache HIT ratio was like 5% due to the advert's cookies (just before I left) [10:52:34] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Nuke lists only one of the Articles but many times - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14725 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Nuke; (post) [10:52:46] <RoanKattouw> Splarka: The old way was to just do the gettoken thing [10:52:47] <domas> so, apparently people hit deadlocks in objectcache db code [10:52:48] <domas> :) [10:53:12] <crucially> Splarka: 85% currently [10:53:22] <crucially> last time I tried wow [10:53:27] <crucially> it lasted an hour before segfauling [10:53:28] <crucially> :) [10:53:31] <Splarka> and Tim had to patch wm's Squid to allow x-vary-options to potentially allow cookies so as to give anon users unique edit tokens [10:53:34] <Splarka> nice [10:54:01] <crucially> all of wikia took 5% cpu (excluding images) [10:54:05] <crucially> instead of 6 squids [10:54:05] <G> hmmmm, anyone else have the issue that they can't save an edit with the latest SVN revision? [10:54:05] <Splarka> crucially: bragged about it in -tech yet? domas and mark like to pick on you behind your back [10:54:18] <crucially> -tech ? [10:54:25] <domas> oh [10:54:27] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Fatal error: call to undefined method - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14726 04CRIT; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CategoryTree; (rdbusser) [10:54:29] <domas> we have direct communications feedĄ [10:54:31] <domas> ! [10:54:31] <crucially> I like to pick on domas [10:54:36] <crucially> it is a hobby of mine [10:54:40] *Splarka grins [10:54:45] *JSharp sighs [10:54:48] <CIA-54> 03jojo * r37042 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: prevent downloaded files being read into memory by using CURLOPT_FILE, tmpfile() and fpassthru(). [10:54:50] <JSharp> can't we all just get along? :) [10:54:56] <crucially> it is actually more fun than real work [10:55:07] <crucially> trying to figure out bizarre cases to send to mysql support [10:55:35] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Non-conformant XHTML in EasyTimeline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14727 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: EasyTimeline; (maxsem.wiki) [10:55:37] <G> actually, blank page on edit [10:55:42] <wikibugs> 03(mod) XHTML compliance (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209 (10maxsem.wiki) [10:55:57] <Splarka> G: 37041? [10:56:02] <Splarka> or less latest? [10:56:13] <G> 38 [10:56:44] *archivist adds pick on domas to the #mysql topic [10:57:09] <G> Splarka: ahhh I see, EditPage.php update :) [10:57:17] <G> that fixes it [10:57:31] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) Incomplete RTL handling in Aramaic (arc) Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14339 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [10:57:48] <crucially> JSharp: we do [10:58:01] <Splarka> Aramaic is RTL? from Monty Python and the Holy Grail I remember it as LTR, the Arrrrg bit anyway [10:58:20] <crucially> Splarka: with -tech you mean the mailinglist? [10:58:36] <Splarka> nom #wikimedia-tech [10:58:48] <Splarka> er, no(*Comma*), I wasn't nomming it [10:59:36] <JSharp> crucially, yeah, but without all the shooting and ripping of limbs and all that :) [11:01:23] <CIA-54> 03nicdumz * r37043 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LinksUpdate.php: [11:01:23] <CIA-54> mCategoties -> mCategories [11:01:23] <CIA-54> Oops, that typo was surviving here since March :p [11:07:06] <Nikerabbit> AaronSchulz: hola [11:07:28] *AaronSchulz is looking up "unrequited love" [11:07:35] <CIA-54> 03btongminh * r37044 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalUsage/GlobalUsageDaemon.php: Use ranges instead of offsets [11:07:57] <Nikerabbit> AaronSchulz: do you know which hook is best for adding information to the page when an article is viewed? [11:08:28] <AaronSchulz> what kind of info? [11:09:16] <Nikerabbit> AaronSchulz: some navigation links and some textual data inside the content area [11:09:43] <Nikerabbit> so that it does not show up when editing [11:10:31] <AaronSchulz> at the top, middle, or bottom of the content? [11:11:38] <Nikerabbit> AaronSchulz: something like this: http://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Bugreportspage/grc [11:12:58] <AaronSchulz> where is the "textual" data? [11:13:48] <Nikerabbit> AaronSchulz: under the last hr :D [11:14:03] <AaronSchulz> prolly ArticleViewHeader [11:14:38] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Non-conformant XHTML in EasyTimeline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14727 (10Platonides) [11:14:52] <aton`> does anybody know if i can deactivate skins for all users? [11:15:12] <AaronSchulz> OutputPageBeforeHTML might also be of use for injecting stuff [11:15:33] <Nikerabbit> AaronSchulz: hmm, it doesn't allow access to $text... [11:16:04] <AaronSchulz> If you are adding stuff to the top, it doesn't matter [11:16:18] <AaronSchulz> but then again, I'm still not 100% sure what is desired ;) [11:17:08] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Non-conformant XHTML in EasyTimeline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14727 +comment (10Platonides) [11:18:32] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Non-conformant XHTML in EasyTimeline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14727 (10Platonides) [11:20:39] <Nikerabbit> AaronSchulz: mmm that hooks seems to do the same, thanks [11:21:45] <CIA-54> 03mkroetzsch * r37045 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (SMW_GlobalFunctions.php SMW_Settings.php): Additional constant for selecting all query features, more docu [12:07:18] <CIA-54> 03catrope * r37046 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [12:07:18] <CIA-54> Rewritten the way the API handles tokens: [12:07:18] <CIA-54> * Instead of hardcoding stuff all over the place, use callbacks [12:07:18] <CIA-54> * Extensions can now add their own tokens to prop=info or prop=revisions using hooks [12:08:42] <Nikerabbit> :o [12:09:01] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Special: ExpandTemplates choke on unselecting removal of comments - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14668 (10azatoth) [12:10:36] <Nikerabbit> :OO [12:14:24] <domas> WHO CORRUPTED MY FEATURE [12:15:36] <wikibugs> 14(INVALID) Special: ExpandTemplates choke on unselecting removal of comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14668 +comment (10tstarling) [12:15:59] <domas> some people suck [12:16:15] <domas> REVOKE ROTEM COMMIT ACCESS PLEASE [12:16:20] <Nikerabbit> :o [12:16:26] <domas> http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php?r1=36893&r2=36902 [12:16:50] <Nikerabbit> :D [12:17:14] <G> okay, thats a weird one, I don't exactly see the point of that commit :) [12:17:33] <Nikerabbit> he changes the bytes domas had calculated with love and precision [12:17:37] <Drakurius> 0404,00how can i put in a user agreement which useres have to accept when registering? [12:18:07] <G> oh jeppers does this channel not have +c set? :P [12:18:17] <TimStarling> wikibugs uses colours [12:18:24] <TimStarling> it looks kind of boring without them [12:18:30] <alnokta> anyone knows why this isn't working http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A:Timezone-utc ? [12:18:32] <G> TimStarling: oh good point [12:18:43] <Nikerabbit> domas: it is ont his fault if trillian sucks ass [12:18:46] <TimStarling> CIA too [12:19:55] <G> so anyway, if I was interested in dev work on Mediawiki, what is there I could work on, I've been considering this for the last x years, but working on the Fedora wiki has made my mind up :) [12:20:16] <Nikerabbit> what are your areas of interest? [12:20:46] <domas> here we go [12:20:57] <CIA-54> 03midom * r37047 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: adding explanations break the feature, page is supposed to be blank! kind of! revert r36902 [12:21:29] <G> PHP & SQL stuff, although I've spent a substantial time lately working with Python, I'm go good at UIs thats for sure :) [12:21:48] <Nikerabbit> Dantman: oj, there is a linktrial bug open, care to close it? [12:21:49] <domas> go good or no good? [12:21:55] <domas> g: do you know ocaml? [12:21:57] <alnokta> TimStarling, could you take a look please? it works on other wikis but not on arwikipedia [12:22:01] <G> err no good [12:22:11] <domas> g: we need one ocaml code to be rewritten into php ;-) [12:22:31] <G> domas: I know a little bit of it [12:22:38] <TimStarling> G: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailreporter1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=tstarling%40wikimedia.org&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=in [12:22:38] <TimStarling> clude&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= [12:22:39] <G> not much [12:22:43] <domas> g: really?!!!? [12:22:46] <TimStarling> I hate bugzilla [12:22:48] <domas> you know much more than anyone else then! :) [12:22:55] <TimStarling> http://tinyurl.com/6jrzk8 [12:23:15] <Nikerabbit> hi alnokta [12:23:31] <JSharp> TimStarling, then why not move to another tracker? :) [12:23:34] <G> domas: I've maintained 3 ocaml packages in Fedora in the past and I did a little bit of work to try and get it working on PPC64 [12:23:41] <alnokta> hello Nikerabbit [12:23:46] <TimStarling> JSharp: because then I'd hate that one too [12:23:51] *JSharp nods :) [12:24:05] <VasilievVV> domas: and you also forgot to revert it back from UnlistedSpecialPage to SpecialPage :) [12:24:42] <alnokta> Nikerabbit, thanks for fixing image bug, i will be adding localized images :) [12:24:58] <domas> VasilievVV: that one is ok :) [12:25:06] <domas> g: cool :) [12:25:06] <Nikerabbit> alnokta: well, as always, someone can revert it :) [12:25:15] <domas> g: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/math/ [12:25:21] <domas> g: this code is unmaintainable since 2003 :) [12:25:35] <Nikerabbit> oj [12:25:36] <G> since 2003? honestly? [12:25:37] <domas> g: having in php would be nice! :) [12:25:42] <domas> or python [12:25:44] <domas> but php would be nicest [12:25:49] <domas> as then it could be part of mediawiki [12:25:55] <alnokta> Nikerabbit, lets hope it stands :) [12:26:00] <VasilievVV> And no Perl, please! [12:26:12] <G> VasilievVV: I have a dislike for perl :) [12:26:26] <Nikerabbit> alnokta: yeh, the alias stuff is still in, fortunately :) [12:26:27] <domas> g: would you up to it? :) [12:26:31] <domas> g: thats quite a fun hacking task :) [12:26:39] <domas> *be [12:26:39] <G> domas: "fun"? :P [12:26:52] <domas> ye [12:26:53] <domas> :) [12:27:00] <domas> we have different meaning for fun in these worlds [12:27:13] <G> domas: I'd definately look at it, but maybe knock off a few of those bugs that Tim showed me :) [12:27:18] <G> err first that is [12:27:28] <domas> g: ok :) always listen to Tim first [12:27:32] <domas> then me [12:27:45] <domas> and don't listen to brion [12:27:54] <Nikerabbit> and domas of course always listens to me! [12:27:57] <VasilievVV> domas: o_O [12:28:29] <TimStarling> those bugs are all the ones I personally reported, that are still open [12:28:32] <VasilievVV> TimStarling: have you taken a look at image moving? [12:28:39] <TimStarling> VasilievVV: no [12:28:40] <G> TimStarling: so basically for 14710 you'd be talking about a "wikimedia extension" [12:28:42] <TimStarling> is there code? [12:28:52] <VasilievVV> TimStarling: since May it's in core [12:29:04] <VasilievVV> Waiting for someone to review it [12:29:09] <domas> Nikerabbit: indeed I do! [12:29:10] <TimStarling> G: yes, or maybe a site-specific-messages extension [12:29:11] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Enable FlaggedRevs Patrolling Configuration on Esperanto Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14728 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (Yekrats) [12:29:27] <domas> anyone else knows ocaml? :) [12:29:53] <G> domas: I know of a guy in Red Hat who's basically an ocaml god :) [12:30:03] <TimStarling> VasilievVV: brion disabled it, right? [12:30:03] <domas> G: haha, what does he do there? :) [12:30:08] <domas> and why would anyone be ocaml god? [12:30:36] <G> domas: he's part of the "Emerging Technologies" devision [12:31:10] <Dantman> Nikerabbit: Bug, what one? Link me and I'll tab it when Firefox opens [12:31:11] <VasilievVV> I may try to learn it :) [12:31:11] <VasilievVV> TimStarling: no, it was initially $wgAllowImageMoving = false; so brion even haven't looked through it, I think [12:31:11] <VasilievVV> Neither he enabled it on testwiki [12:31:17] <Kardan> can anybody tell me, what 'Eb error/error.php' means? i get this, when i want to see an image saved in mediawiki 1.7.1 [12:31:31] <domas> g: is that a division where they feed various drugs and see which programming languages people use? :) [12:32:00] <G> domas: heh [12:32:24] <Dantman> Hmmm... I have tourette syndrome, my brain chemistry is already unbalanced... Might that be why I have an affinity for Common Lisp? [12:34:16] <domas> g: interesting, I just read up an article about ocaml [12:34:22] <domas> and all it has is references to derived languages [12:34:27] <domas> but doesn't have any project mentioned ;-) [12:35:31] <TimStarling> what's LocalFile::lock() meant to do? [12:35:48] <Nikerabbit> Dantman: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14539 [12:37:55] <Dantman> TimStarling: Local purpose, or concept? If you're talking concept, I think the point is for something like a more remote type of file repo, which allows for locking and a lock helps avoid issues more than it would for local files [12:38:38] <TimStarling> oh right, I wrote it [12:38:43] <TimStarling> I should probably know what it does [12:38:43] <Dantman> rotfl [12:39:01] <Nikerabbit> :D [12:39:03] <CIA-54> 03alnokta * r37048 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesAr.php: timezone-utc translation. [12:39:20] <VasilievVV> TimStarling: aqquire a lock to avoid race confitions [12:39:24] <VasilievVV> *conditions [12:39:31] <TimStarling> yeah, it doesn't actually do that [12:39:35] <TimStarling> but it's the though that counts [12:40:25] <Dantman> heh [12:41:58] <TimStarling> LocalFileMoveBatch shouldn't take a Database as a parameter, it should use $file->repo->getMasterDB() like what LocalFileRestoreBatch does [12:46:18] <TimStarling> strreplace could possibly benefit from some camel case and/or a better name [12:47:28] <TimStarling> s/though/thought [12:49:08] <TimStarling> other than that it looks ok [12:49:55] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs Patrolling Configuration on Esperanto Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14728 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [12:51:44] <VasilievVV> TimStarling: may you enable it on testwiki when you are sure it won't break anything? [12:52:09] <TimStarling> ok [12:52:29] <TimStarling> will you remove the $db parameter to LocalFileMoveBatch::__construct()? [12:54:05] <VasilievVV> yes [12:54:40] <TimStarling> oh, and that lock/unlock stuff? you should call them [12:54:57] <TimStarling> they do start and commit transactions, even if they don't quite lock [12:55:18] <domas> lol rotem :) [12:55:54] <domas> I don't really get why we need those locks yet [12:56:30] <VasilievVV> I thought I had added locks... [12:56:42] <VasilievVV> Yes, I had done [12:57:04] <VasilievVV> TimStarling: they are in LocalFile::move() method [13:04:15] <CIA-54> 03vasilievvv * r37049 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/LocalFile.php: Don't pass $db, as Tim Starling advises [13:04:21] <VasilievVV> TimStarling: done [13:04:57] <Platonides> TimStarling, where are the local images extracted from on the new static dumps? [13:04:58] <Platonides> Seems that if an image was deleted at the shared repo, it gets an entry at the image list pointing to local [13:07:11] <TimStarling> Platonides: it's a symlink farm [13:07:36] <TimStarling> the symlink farm is mostly just there to make the shared image lists for image page generation [13:07:43] <TimStarling> it's a bit obsolete [13:07:52] <TimStarling> it used to be more important in the original version [13:09:48] <NicDumZ> category.cat_hidden "-- Reserved for future use". Isnt it used at all now ? [13:10:41] <Platonides> it's just that when i viewed http://static.wikipedia.org/downloads/2008-06/es/images.lst there're a number of local links [13:10:51] <Platonides> but eswiki don't have local uploads [13:11:31] <Platonides> seems they were deleted from commons during dump creation [13:11:49] <Platonides> and when they weren't found at shared, listed at local [13:12:08] <Platonides> but could be due to a completely different reason :-) [13:15:13] <VasilievVV> TimStarling: anything else? [13:18:52] <TimStarling> don't think so [13:19:02] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) linktrail for digraphs wih apostrophe or grave accent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14539 +comment (10dan_the_man) [13:19:43] <Nikerabbit> when will we have a bug day? [13:22:36] <Nikerabbit> Dantman: 2005? :D [13:22:53] <Dantman> Eh? [13:23:28] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Change autoconfirmed days limit in Chinese Wikipedia. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14624 +comment (10Platonides) [13:23:32] <Nikerabbit> Dantman: is your irc client that old? [13:23:36] <Dantman> Error: Scope issue with joke [13:24:53] <Dantman> ^_^ Consider my brain a C compiler... I can't understand what the hell you are talking about, unless you give me a scope, and predefine info I need... in this case, why my IRC client might be considered old? [13:25:50] <Nikerabbit> build Thu Feb 24 20:44:12 UTC 2005 [13:26:15] <VasilievVV> TimStarling: so may it be enabled on test.wp, please? [13:27:56] <TimStarling> yes [13:27:57] <Dantman> Oh, heh... I don't keep up with the dev version... I'm just using the latest stable, but I guess so... [13:28:04] <TimStarling> once I'm done talking to guyvdb by private message [13:28:20] <Dantman> All in all, the client is still pretty nice despite the build date [13:32:18] <Nikerabbit> Dantman: I remembered the days when I used xircon... [13:34:42] <NicDumZ> ah. strange. I think that SpecialExport::wfExportGetPagesFromCategory is never called. [13:36:35] <CIA-54> 03btongminh * r37050 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalUsage/GlobalUsageDaemon.php: Force index; Use straight_join [13:37:06] <NicDumZ> nvm. stupid me, again. [13:40:21] <CIA-54> 03shinjiman * r37051 10/trunk/extensions/cldr/LocalNamesEn.php: adding Classical Chinese (zh-classical) to LocalNamesEn.php for MediaWiki localisation [13:43:05] <CIA-54> 03mkroetzsch * r37052 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [13:43:05] <CIA-54> Make sure that conept pages do not refer to other concepts (no support for recursion right now), make query [13:43:05] <CIA-54> power for concept namespace configurable separately (namespace protection can be used for controlling [13:43:05] <CIA-54> available queries) [13:56:58] <mahdi_mahdi> hi all [13:57:11] <Nikerabbit> o [13:57:14] <mahdi_mahdi> do you know how can i add a teachertube video in media wiki? [13:57:39] <Nikerabbit> install one of the extensions out there [13:58:14] <mahdi_mahdi> wichone? [13:58:17] <mahdi_mahdi> and where? [13:58:36] <Dantman> mahdi_mahdi: There is no extension meant to do that currently for that video host afaik... However, if I were to complete my WikiVid extension a service object to make it work would be easy to make [13:58:57] <mahdi_mahdi> so [13:59:01] <mahdi_mahdi> what can i do? [14:00:06] <Dantman> Wait... code a quick and dirty extension yourself by modifying someone else's extension... Or poke/pay me in a way that gets me to work on WikiVid with a higher priority than the other things I'm working on [14:00:24] <mahdi_mahdi> thanks [14:00:35] <mahdi_mahdi> whenever you finish it plz pm me [14:00:46] <Nikerabbit> don't forget to sleep! [14:00:51] <Dantman> Well, I won't remember by that point in time [14:01:02] <Dantman> However, I do have a page for the extension [14:01:02] <mahdi_mahdi> my id is: [14:01:11] <mahdi_mahdi> mahdi.phpman@yahoo.com [14:01:12] <Dantman> You can use RSS to check when it changes [14:01:21] <mahdi_mahdi> ok [14:01:30] <mahdi_mahdi> give me your page [14:03:15] <Dantman> http://wiki-tools.com/wiki/WikiVid The infobox is likely to change most notably when the extension is complete, so try this feed http://wiki-tools.com/history/Infobox:WikiVid?feed=rss& [14:03:57] <Dantman> Check back on the wiki when you see something like status=Stable being set [14:04:23] <Dantman> I may end up creating a blog at http://blog.nadir-point.com sometime in the future [14:06:03] <mahdi_mahdi> this page is for you? [14:06:07] <mahdi_mahdi> i saw it before [14:06:13] <mahdi_mahdi> but i couldnt use it [14:06:22] <Dantman> Right now I'm focused on trying to build a Portfolio app as a part of my own portfolio so I actually have something to show employers who may hire me... So atm everything is secondary to my ElectronicMe project unless i'm taking a short break and something is interested, or I'm paid for it [14:06:30] <Dantman> Hmm, what stoped you? [14:07:13] <mahdi_mahdi> i cant use it [14:07:22] <mahdi_mahdi> it doesnt show the videos [14:07:38] <Dantman> Eh? This is for the extension [14:07:49] <Dantman> The only place videos would be are on demo pages [14:07:57] <Dantman> The extension is only half-complete [14:08:13] <mahdi_mahdi> ok [14:08:18] <Nikerabbit> :oo [14:08:22] <Nikerabbit> Dantman: portfolio? [14:08:41] <Nikerabbit> is it that hard to get job? :o [14:12:23] <Dantman> Yes, I need an online portfolio of code... The fact that I don't have an example of past works besides mini-extensions, or insanely old sites (php 4, ugly code, eugh) which have broken down over the ages, is the reason I have issues with job applications [14:12:52] <Nikerabbit> :/ [14:13:16] <Dantman> ^_^ You have two people... One has a site which does stuff... The other has a few pieces of code that don't do much.... Who do you hire? [14:13:48] <wikibugs> 04(REOPENED) enhancement of languageConverter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14604 (10fdcn64) [14:14:17] <Duesentrieb> Dantman: the one that is able to ask good questions abot the problem i give them. [14:14:25] <Nikerabbit> Dantman: :o http://www.ohloh.net/projects/mediawiki/contributors/96636827226 [14:15:00] <Duesentrieb> the questions people ask are much more telling than the answers they give [14:16:11] <wikibugs> 03(mod) enhancement of languageConverter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14604 (10fdcn64) [14:16:14] <Simetrical> Why does Roan ask me a question when I'm not here, and then go away so I can't respond when he's not here? [14:16:37] <Simetrical> His query isn't the one that would be needed, that's why it doesn't look bad. It's ORDER BY cl_to, cl_sortkey, cl_from when it should by just ORDER BY cl_sortkey. [14:16:46] <Dantman> O_o My main programming language is JS? I loth JS with how much trouble it gives me [14:16:47] <Simetrical> Hmm, is that the only problem? [14:17:00] <Simetrical> Oh well, he's not here, so I don't have to think about it. [14:17:47] <Nikerabbit> Dantman: :DD [14:18:27] <Nikerabbit> Simetrical: I prefer private e-mail to roan :o [14:19:15] <Kardan> WHY DOES NOBODY ANSWER ME? [14:19:17] <Dantman> Though, thanks for the link... It might be useful for giving to potential employers, I didn't know of any way to show something like that to show my activity with MW [14:20:05] <Dantman> ^_^ rotfl, I think I know why It's tagged me as a JS persion [14:20:06] <Duesentrieb> Kardan: because you havn't asked a question [14:20:38] <Dantman> Remember when I branched the wrong way end ended up committing an entire duplicate of MW into a branch? rotfl... it was probably that... heh [14:20:46] <mahdi_mahdi> :) [14:20:53] <CIA-54> 03btongminh * r37053 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/ICRepo.php: Remove non working, obsolete ICRepo. Use the working ForeignAPIRepo. [14:20:59] <Kardan> 2 times already (scroll yourself): can anybody tell me, what 'Eb error/error.php' means? i get this, when i want to see an image saved in mediawiki 1.7.1 [14:21:00] <wikibugs> 03(mod) A clean installation of Translate is not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14495 (10huji.huji) [14:21:25] <CIA-54> 03rotem * r37054 10/trunk/extensions/CategoryTree/ (CategoryTree.css CategoryTree.php): [14:21:25] <CIA-54> Removing 'font-weight: bold' for the subcategories: Seems weird in category [14:21:25] <CIA-54> pages, as any subcategory is bold, and doesn't help much when only subcategories [14:21:25] <CIA-54> are shown. Even when both subcategories and articles are shown in [14:21:26] <CIA-54> Special:CategoryTree, the subcategories are already distinct because of the + [14:21:30] <CIA-54> sign. [14:21:51] <Dantman> Commit resulting into a 40mb e-mail out to subscribers of mediawiki-cvs... heh, bad result of a commit [14:21:54] <Dantman> heh [14:22:20] <Duesentrieb> Kardan: i scrolled myself, nothing from you since i got here 90 minutes ago0. anyway, if no one answers, that usually means no one knows the answer. mediawiki does not have a file called error.php. i would suggest to ask your hosting service [14:22:48] <Duesentrieb> Kardan: also: why use 1.7? that'S ancient. 1.12 is current. [14:23:59] <Dantman> Oh no, that screw up can't be the reason... that only tracks trunk [14:24:13] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) FlaggedRevs doesn' t work correctly if newest article version is redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14729 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (wickie37) [14:24:17] <Dantman> Or wait, huh? [14:27:20] <_stefanos_> hello everyone. I didn't know that mediawiki is so huge project :/ [14:28:24] <Simetrical> It's not big at all compared to, say, Mozilla or the Linux kernel. [14:28:29] <Simetrical> It's smallish. [14:28:30] <_stefanos_> i really want to use it for my personal usage but it seems difficult. it has its own language, tweaks, tricks... [14:29:47] <Dantman> Not really... WikiText itself is kinda simple when you're just using the basics [14:29:51] <_stefanos_> I have been trying to read its documentation and for some reason I cannot follow it :DDD [14:31:27] <_stefanos_> i wish i could find a pdf documentantion. at least like that i would know that I have to prepare myself to read a lot :D [14:31:44] <wikibugs> 03(mod) FlaggedRevs doesn' t work correctly if newest article version is redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14729 (10wickie37) [14:32:17] <CIA-54> 03nikerabbit * r37055 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [14:32:17] <CIA-54> * 2008-07-04:2 [14:32:17] <CIA-54> - use a existing hook for quick links [14:32:17] <CIA-54> - possible fix for Windows [14:33:36] <_stefanos_> it would be nice if there was a mediawikiLite [14:34:11] <Simetrical> _stefanos_, you can use some other wiki software. [14:34:25] <Simetrical> MediaWiki is probably the largest and most complicated wiki package there is. [14:34:29] <_stefanos_> yeah but...it's not the same you know :/ [14:34:37] <Simetrical> Kind of like saying there should be an emacs-lite. [14:34:40] <_stefanos_> wiki...is Mediawiki [14:34:59] <_stefanos_> pico that would be for those who know it :) [14:35:27] <_stefanos_> but emacs and a huge project with great history, therefore...respect [14:35:47] <Duesentrieb> _stefanos_: mediawiki is probably the most heavy wiki engine you can find. it's build to be masivley calable, deal of millions with users. [14:36:11] <Duesentrieb> _stefanos_: it's not designed as a personal data manager. there's a lot of alternatives out there. [14:36:18] <_stefanos_> i see [14:36:26] <_stefanos_> can you recommend me anything please? [14:36:47] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) A clean installation of Translate is not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14495 +comment (10huji.huji) [14:37:06] <Dantman> I feel like creating a JS i18n system for MW now, for some odd reason... [14:37:11] <Duesentrieb> _stefanos_: havn't tried any myself really. if you want something web based, have a look at http://www.opensourcecms.com/ [14:37:15] <Duesentrieb> there you can try & see [14:37:23] <Duesentrieb> also have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software [14:38:06] <_stefanos_> i will try the comparison ;) [14:38:07] <_stefanos_> thanks [14:38:07] <Duesentrieb> _stefanos_: google gives me this: http://webscripts.softpedia.com/script/Wikis/wiki-light-31198.html (no idea if it's any good) [14:38:17] <_stefanos_> ok thank you :) [14:39:30] <_stefanos_> exists only of softpedia? cannot find official website [14:40:06] <wikibugs> 03(CLOSED) problem with position of checkbox for a minoredit by starting a new section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14515 +comment (10umherirrender_de.wp) [14:40:28] <Duesentrieb> _stefanos_: i have no idea [14:40:32] <_stefanos_> cool [14:40:50] <_stefanos_> i'm looking for comparisons so...thank you very much for your help mate :) [14:40:56] <Duesentrieb> np [14:42:08] <Nikerabbit> so, when will we have a bug day? [14:43:23] <CIA-54> 03huji * r37056 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: Description for Word2MediaWiki [14:46:06] <Dantman> O_o bleh... My name has 7kudos, then when I actually claim it they dissapear [14:46:38] <Nikerabbit> Dantman: :o? [14:47:29] <Nikerabbit> weird [14:47:59] <Nikerabbit> hmm, over 3 years of php coding experience [14:48:10] <Dantman> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/mediawiki/contributors/94489301068 It used to say 7kudos untill after I connected it to a new ohloh account of mine [14:48:23] <Nikerabbit> maybe it needs some time [14:48:52] <Dantman> I suppose [14:49:04] <Dantman> It is 'recalculating' my experience [14:49:13] <Dantman> ^_^ Even though I have more experience than that [14:49:21] <Dantman> I started with PHP 3 years ago [14:49:46] <Dantman> Oh wait... [14:50:00] <Dantman> 3? ^_^ I'm 19 now... I think that's 4 [14:50:40] <Kardan> Duesentrieb because its not my server and my installation. I can't imagine why there is such a error, when trying to access a file (image) via mediawiki [14:50:42] <Dantman> :/ Now if my Forum code didn't dissapear in a crash... If I still had that I'd have a timestamp to measure [14:51:31] <wikibugs> 14(DUP) FlaggedRevs doesn' t work correctly if newest article version is redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14729 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [14:51:38] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Stable Redirects are broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14714 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [14:55:29] <CIA-54> 03alnokta * r37057 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 2 dirs): [14:55:30] <CIA-54> Added localization of edit button images for Arabic language. [14:55:30] <CIA-54> Image translation by AhmadSherif. GPL font Kacst Naskh (http://ceri.kacst.edu.sa/fonts.htm). [14:56:36] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Parser functions to receive parameters like $1 in MediaWiki site messages (especially fullurl, urlencode, localurl, ...) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6261 (10danny.b) [15:00:23] <Duesentrieb> Kardan: image files are not served via mediawiki. mediawiki just references them. they are loaded directly from the webserver, as static files. [15:01:07] <Duesentrieb> Kardan: the eror you are getting suggests a problem with reqriting. actually, since it's an error related to error.php, it seems loke a secondary error: something goes wrong, and when the server tries to tell you what, using error.php, something else goes wrong. [15:01:14] <Duesentrieb> so, ask your hosting service [15:01:29] <Duesentrieb> err, reqriting -> rewriting [15:01:53] <CIA-54> 03shinjiman * r37058 10/trunk/phase3/languages/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [15:01:53] <CIA-54> * (bug 14604) Update LanguageConverter for T (Title) conversion [15:01:53] <CIA-54> bugzilla attachment 5048 [15:01:53] <CIA-54> patch by fdcn [15:01:54] <CIA-54> * Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Old/Late Time Chinese [15:02:26] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) enhancement of languageConverter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14604 +comment (10shinjiman) [15:15:28] <Nikerabbit> Dantman: http://translatewiki.net/sandwiki/index.php?title=Sandbox :o [15:17:53] <CIA-54> 03shinjiman * r37059 10/trunk/phase3/languages/LanguageConverter.php: fix encoding problems on r37058 [15:18:04] <CIA-54> 03nikerabbit * r37060 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/TranslatePage.php: * Allow entities in labels [15:21:32] <AaronSchulz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k4MxIZRmIs&feature=related [15:21:37] <AaronSchulz> awww :) [15:36:58] <CIA-54> 03huji * r37061 10/trunk/extensions/ (29 files in 15 dirs): Adding descriptions to a couple more extension [15:40:54] <Nikerabbit> alnokta: nice [15:41:21] <Nikerabbit> http://translatewiki.net/sandwiki/index.php?title=test&action=edit&uselang=ar [15:41:42] <Nikerabbit> now if we really had working skins so that the layout would be rtl... [15:45:00] <alnokta> Nikerabbit, yes they are great :) [15:45:49] <alnokta> Nikerabbit, shouldn't &rtl=1 work? [15:46:23] <Nikerabbit> alnokta: no? should it? [15:46:59] *alnokta thinks it should [15:47:16] <Nikerabbit> afaik it was one of my hacks that got lost.. [15:48:05] <Nikerabbit> collation and seperation of content and ui in rtl support are the two big pitfalls we have [15:58:00] <CIA-54> 03greg * r37062 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/db/DatabasePostgres.php): [15:58:00] <CIA-54> Properly handle the 'IGNORE' option passed to the insert funtion: [15:58:00] <CIA-54> rather than just turning off errors, do some savepoint trickery [15:58:00] <CIA-54> so we end at the same state as when we started, to emulate [15:58:00] <CIA-54> MySQL's INSERT...IGNORE. Bug 14708. [15:59:00] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Page Deletions broken in r36961 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14708 +comment (10greg) [16:03:08] <CharlotteWebb> so apparently you can assign all kinds of things to $wgGroupPermissions['*'] if you want complete chaos [16:03:26] <CharlotteWebb> but anon "log actions" are not logged [16:03:34] <Nikerabbit> yes [16:03:34] <CharlotteWebb> i think this is a bug [16:03:47] <Nikerabbit> it is, there is probably a bug in bugzilla [16:04:15] <CharlotteWebb> so it is an already known issue [16:05:14] <CharlotteWebb> i have $wgGroupPermissions['*']['upload'] = true; on my wiki, but if an IP uploads an image the upload log remains blank [16:13:20] <Nikerabbit> OverlordQ: oh, you did flood protection also [16:29:35] <Lady_Aleena> Is there any reason why subcategories within a category are now bold? [16:30:41] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) Provide the remaining changes page filter preferences - minor, bots, logged-in/anon, patrolled and own edits - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10022 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [16:31:31] <Nikerabbit> Lady_Aleena: was change already, afaik [16:32:33] <Lady_Aleena> I didn't notice until today, but IMO it looks bad and will make pages scroll just a little worse especially subcategories with long names. Bold makes the lines a lot longer. [16:33:52] <Nikerabbit> changed* [16:36:27] <Lady_Aleena> I don't see the difference. [16:36:44] <Nikerabbit> Lady_Aleena: where? [16:37:19] <Lady_Aleena> Anywhere...the subcats are still bold. [16:37:35] <Nikerabbit> well, you need to wait until they update from svn [16:38:11] <Lady_Aleena> Ah! [16:38:28] <Lady_Aleena> What is svn? [16:39:06] <alnokta2> [[subversion]] [16:39:42] <Lady_Aleena> [[Subversion (software)]]? [16:40:14] <alnokta2> yes [16:40:27] <alnokta2> http://svn.wikimedia.org [16:41:12] <^demon> Didn't brion scap yesterday? [16:41:22] <^demon> Whoo, release-notes conflict. [16:41:41] <Nikerabbit> confict? [16:41:44] <Nikerabbit> ^demon: wassup [16:42:02] <^demon> Not a whole lot. :-) [16:42:03] <wikibugs> 04(REOPENED) enhancement of languageConverter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14604 +comment (10rainman) [16:43:56] <CIA-54> 03demon * r37063 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): KTHMLfixes no longer loaded on skins where it doesn't exist. (bug 14717) [16:44:09] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) wikibits includes nonexistent stylesheet, KHTMLfixes.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14717 +comment (10innocentkiller) [16:44:55] <^demon> Nikerabbit: Just been working on the ForeignAPI code, got the caching working really nicely with brion's help yesterday. [16:45:20] <Lady_Aleena> Nikerabbit, what message should I be looking for in here to tell me when the svn updates? [16:45:50] <Nikerabbit> Lady_Aleena: for wikipedia... you just need to wait [16:46:09] <Lady_Aleena> Ah, okay. [16:46:39] *Lady_Aleena bounces on her tippy toes. :) [16:47:08] <^demon> Lady_Aleena: If you goto [[Special:Version]] on any WMF wiki, it'll list the latest _live_ revision. Brion updated yesterday, so they're only about 50 revisions behind trunk now. [16:47:25] <^demon> As opposed to like 500 yesterday :-P [16:47:41] <Nikerabbit> ^demon: I hope that doesn't mean that it is a long time for next sync :o [16:47:59] <alnokta2> ^demon, remember timezone utc problem? [16:48:15] <^demon> Vaguely. [16:48:19] <^demon> ;-) [16:48:24] <alnokta2> heh [16:49:08] <alnokta2> well, it was fixed and code working on wmf, but the page on mediawiki:timezone-utc doesn't work on wmf wikis while working on other mediawikis [16:49:32] <^demon> hmmm... [16:50:08] <alnokta2> and $wgLocalTimezone isn't set for arwiki, so it should work. [16:51:07] <wikibugs> 03(mod) interwiki transcluding with part of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14724 (10innocentkiller) [16:51:15] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Reasonably efficient interwiki transclusion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9890 (10innocentkiller) [16:51:22] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Ability to transclude only part of a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3911 (10innocentkiller) [16:51:43] <Nikerabbit> mmmm [16:52:38] <alnokta2> ^demon, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Timezone-utc cannot be overridden [16:52:45] <Nikerabbit> ^demon: what does that code do? [16:53:17] <^demon> Nikerabbit: Allows for Foreign Repos via the API (as opposed to Filesystem and/or DB). [16:53:25] <^demon> ie: InstantCommons [16:54:07] <^demon> But since you can't guarentee that a remote wiki is owned by the same person, we need to cache very agressively so we're not potentially DOSing the remote wiki because our local one happens to like their images :-P [16:54:50] <^demon> alnokta2: Hmmm. [16:54:52] <Nikerabbit> ^demon: but isn't instantcommons extension? [16:55:05] <^demon> Nikerabbit: The extension is horribly broken and does nothing. [16:55:13] <Nikerabbit> ^demon: ok [16:55:30] <^demon> Brion wrote a generic ForeignAPIRepo class a little while back that will work against _any_ remote MW that has a turned-on API. [16:55:43] <Nikerabbit> ^demon: should there be a configuration setting that disallows wiki to be used as foreign repo? [16:57:24] <Nikerabbit> ^demon: of course it can be worked around, but would be kind of nice [16:57:26] <^demon> Nikerabbit: I was thinking that. I was thinking about adding an API query that returns whether or not the images are considered share-able. If not, then the wiki will halt importing images. [16:57:36] <Nikerabbit> yeah [16:57:39] <Nikerabbit> something like that [16:57:58] <Nikerabbit> will stop the casual users abusing wikies that don't want it [16:58:18] <^demon> I just haven't gotten to that yet. Want to make caching more efficient first. Got some of the API calls and all of the description page cached nicely. [17:12:23] <Dantman> Eh? Ohloh says I have GPLv2 code in my project O_o wtf... [17:15:37] <Nikerabbit> Dantman: :o [17:23:10] <Dantman> All my ElectronicMe code is supposed to be GPLv3+ and AutoLoad+ is supposed to be LGPL [17:25:12] <Nikerabbit> :o [17:37:20] <Dantman> Oooohh... 2-person-months of development from me... [17:37:49] <Dantman> ^_^ You want to know why that's interesting to see... http://svn.nadir-point.com/viewvc/electronicme?view=rev&revision=0 heh, I started this whole thing 3 weeks ago.. rotfl [17:39:47] <Dantman> ^_^ Gotta love it when a computer says that you can do, in 3 weeks, what is supposed to take 1 person 2 months, or 2 people 1 month... heh [17:58:31] <Dantman> You know there's something wrong with your computer, when... It can't open a dropdown on a web form [18:30:52] <paddyez> Following http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL#Setup_steps using MediaWiki: 1.10.0 led to the fact, that css was missing. Wiki worked fine otherwise. Anybody knows this Porblem? [18:33:20] <exobuzz> hi [18:44:29] <paddyez> do I need to change @import "/wiki/skins/monobook/main.css?63"; to /w/... ? [18:45:08] <MinuteElectron> !wg StylePath | paddyez [18:45:08] --mwbot-- paddyez: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgStylePath [18:45:20] <MinuteElectron> basically, yes [18:45:31] <paddyez> thanx [18:50:03] <paddyez> hmm $wgStylePath = $wgScriptPath."/skins"; and I set scriptpath to /w straaaange [18:52:05] <paddyez> fucking ell there is another $wgScriptPath in DefaultSettings.php [18:53:04] <exobuzz> i used an extensions "SearchSuggest" on mw 1.12. I'm tracking svn now, and I know the new dropdown/suggest on the search is built in. Is there a specific config option for it ? The ajaxsearch doesn't seem to affect it and I wonder if I need to enable it specifically ? [18:53:06] <OverlordQ> you shouldn't ever have to change DefaultSettings and doing so could probably mess things up [18:53:20] <exobuzz> oh [18:53:22] <exobuzz> i just found it [18:53:24] <exobuzz> ignore me [18:53:25] <exobuzz> :) [18:54:10] <paddyez> thing is that it does not work otherwise [18:55:15] <paddyez> what is default for $wgScriptPath is it '/w' or '/wiki'? I suppose the first [18:55:49] <OverlordQ> then it means your configuration is wrong [18:56:07] <OverlordQ> DefaultSettings is what it says Default Settings, if you change 'em then they're not DefaultSettings anymore [18:58:25] <paddyez> the only question remainign ist why $wgScriptPath is not overridden by LocalSettings? [18:59:07] <OverlordQ> !wg ScriptPath [18:59:07] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgScriptPath [19:01:32] <paddyez> whatever [19:02:30] <exobuzz> paddyez: ? people are trying to help you [19:05:26] <OverlordQ> paddyez: you've double checked your apache config? [19:06:19] <paddyez> exobuzz: I know. And I am very glad about that [19:08:15] <paddyez> OverlordQ: the apache config seems fine. Only throuble is that LocalSettings.php does not override DefaultSettings.php fully and I have no clue why [19:09:47] <jlerner> any parser experts around? i'm trying to figure out why $wgOut->parse("{{".$wikitext."}}") doesn't respect $wgRawHtml = true; [19:09:48] <Duesentrieb> paddyez: it does. definitly. evrything would break if it didn't. [19:10:55] <paddyez> changing $wgScriptPath = '/asdf'; in LocalSettings has the same effect as cold compresses for a dead man [19:11:35] <CIA-54> 03skizzerz * r37064 10/trunk/extensions/RegexFunctions/ (. RegexFunctions.php): * add new extension RegexFunctions [19:12:08] <Nikerabbit> jlerner: as the documentation says: /** Allow raw, unchecked HTML in <html>...</html> sections. [19:12:31] <jlerner> right - it doesn't seem like Parser::preprocess gets called when doing $wgOut->parse() ... [19:13:19] <jlerner> afaict, it's the preprocessor that handles <html>..</html> sections [19:14:25] <Nikerabbit> probably [19:15:10] <jlerner> how do i parse my wikitext then, that may contain <html> sections? [19:15:11] <jlerner> ;-) [19:15:34] <Nikerabbit> do you need to mix those? [19:15:45] <exobuzz> the new 1.13 search suggest is good, but incompatible with my skin. where is the html/javascript for this in the code ? [19:16:05] <Nikerabbit> skins/common/search.js or something similar probably [19:16:07] <jlerner> Nikerabbit: ideally - I'm trying to do something with the Call extension, involving forms... [19:16:34] <exobuzz> Nikerabbit: aah got it.. mwsuggest.js [19:16:36] <exobuzz> cheers [19:16:40] <jlerner> it works fine with SimpleForms, but that makes other things difficult for me.. [19:17:48] <exobuzz> Nikerabbit: rather than it appending to the document body i want to put it after my searchbody div.. seems an easy change to make [19:20:11] <exobuzz> (and remove the absolute positioning) [19:20:20] <Duesentrieb> paddyez: err... perhaps you are editing the *wrong* localsetting.php? try to break it. [19:20:52] <Duesentrieb> paddyez: if the file is in the config die, it's the wrong one, btw :) [19:21:44] <alnokta2> what is the purpose of ...doing rev_id from 1593134 to 1593333 [19:21:48] <alnokta2> ? [19:23:16] <RoanKattouw> jlerner: You might want to use HTMLets or a similar extension [19:23:21] <Duesentrieb> alnokta2: uh? in what context? [19:23:23] <jlerner> RoanKattouw: yah [19:24:43] <alnokta2> Duesentrieb, in the context of updating db after importing the tables, it is taking millions of seconds [19:24:57] <jlerner> RoanKattouw: it's tricky because the raw html form that's causing the problem - it'll change every time - depending on what the user entered [19:25:44] <alnokta2> Duesentrieb, the revision table refused to import until i deleted the last two columns, now when iam installing mw it is taking so much time [19:25:47] <Duesentrieb> alnokta2: it is probably rebuilding the link database by reparsing page content. yes, that takes very long. often longer than the import. [19:26:08] <Duesentrieb> alnokta2: it can be paralleliszewd, with some effort... [19:26:38] <Duesentrieb> alnokta2: uh... refused to import... deleted... that sounds very scary. what exactly are you trying to do, and why? [19:26:57] <Duesentrieb> alnokta2: upgrading? crash recovery? why are you importing raw revision entries? etc... [19:27:00] <Nikerabbit> alnokta2: more images coming :o [19:27:03] <alnokta2> Duesentrieb, now it is at ...doing rev_id from 1747359 to 1747558 .. can i predict what is the end number? [19:27:08] <exobuzz> I wonder if the mwsuggest box might be better positioned relative to the searchdiv, and placed in there, rather than placed at the end of the body, and relative to the page. then it can sit inside whatever the users skin has better and not on top (i have my search in a popup, and it was interfereing) [19:27:18] <Duesentrieb> alnokta2: sure... select max(rev_id) from revision; [19:27:34] <alnokta2> Duesentrieb, no, i am just doing another arwiki import [19:27:43] <alnokta2> Nikerabbit, :) [19:27:56] <RoanKattouw> alnokta2: In that case you'll have to know how many revisions you're importing [19:28:06] <Nikerabbit> alnokta2: want to handle those? [19:28:06] <Duesentrieb> alnokta2: err. using a revision table? why? and where did you get that from? shouldn't you use an xml dump? [19:28:08] <RoanKattouw> And add that to the first revid it printed [19:28:35] <alnokta2> RoanKattouw, it imported around 159K records [19:28:43] <RoanKattouw> ^^ [19:28:52] <exobuzz> also then it wouldnt need the 127% font size hack [19:28:55] <exobuzz> as it would inherit [19:29:07] <alnokta2> Duesentrieb, i converted the xml to sql with xml2sql and it gave me 3 tables [19:29:16] <Nikerabbit> can't we just remove the puffing font size hack :o [19:29:16] <alnokta2> Nikerabbit, yes [19:29:31] <Duesentrieb> alnokta2: donÄt use xml2sql. [19:29:32] <exobuzz> maybe i will commit it as a patch [19:29:35] <Duesentrieb> it's outdated [19:29:42] <Duesentrieb> and i have no clue why it ever existed [19:29:53] <Duesentrieb> why do people insist on using that? don't we have instructions for improt? [19:30:19] <Duesentrieb> alnokta2: use ImportDump.php or mwdumper.php and then refreshAll.php [19:30:29] <Nikerabbit> alnokta2: saw the one for be-tarask in [[support]]? I except we see more from cyrillic languages [19:30:31] <wikibugs> 06(LATER) robots.txt for no.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11432 +comment (10jeluf) [19:30:49] <alnokta2> :) finished finally [19:31:14] <alnokta2> Duesentrieb, there is a php version of mwdumper? i thought only java existed [19:31:36] <Duesentrieb> alnokta2: xml2sql generates sql data for an old database scheme. the least you should do after importing from that is to run update.php and refeshAll (which takes ling) and [19:31:51] <Duesentrieb> alnokta2: mwdumper is java. ImportDump is php [19:32:14] <paddyez> Duesentrieb: I know. Config is only for setup [19:32:15] <Duesentrieb> ImprotDump is slower. but you need to run refreshAll anyway, which makes using mwdumper not much better in the end for importing [19:32:22] <Duesentrieb> though you can parallelize the refresh stuff [19:32:28] <exobuzz> is there an easy way to disable skins, without removing /modifying the shipped skins ? [19:33:00] <Duesentrieb> exobuzz: $wgSkipSkins [19:33:07] <alnokta2> Duesentrieb, yes i find importDUmp.pgp is better but it is slooow ;) [19:33:17] <exobuzz> Duesentrieb: thanks .. you know too much ;-) [19:33:47] <Duesentrieb> alnokta2: as i said, if you want a consistent database, you will have to run the3 link rebuilding stuff anyway. which parses all pages. wich is slow. [19:34:16] <Duesentrieb> alnokta2: the parsing is what takes up the time., but there's no way around it. unless you don't care about link tables. in that case, use mwdumper. [19:34:39] <Duesentrieb> alnokta2: mwdumper can generate sql too, btw. in case you can't run it against the db directly [19:35:53] *alnokta2 runs refreshAll [19:35:57] <Duesentrieb> Nikerabbit: uh, there seems to be some problem with the message cache... any idea why this happens? http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Duesentrieb/Sandbox [19:36:46] <Nikerabbit> Duesentrieb: can't say anything until the message cache revert is reverted back :o [19:36:55] <Nikerabbit> maybe stale caches? [19:37:03] <Nikerabbit> are those extension messages? [19:37:40] <alnokta2> Nikerabbit, yes mw is the best in localization :) [19:37:56] <Nikerabbit> alnokta2: and i18n, I hope [19:38:45] <Duesentrieb> Nikerabbit: :/ [19:39:04] <Duesentrieb> Nikerabbit: yes, extension message. no, no cache# [19:39:12] <Duesentrieb> well, no parser cache or http cache anyway [19:39:16] <Duesentrieb> message cache, possible [19:39:23] <Duesentrieb> that's what i suspect it is, actually [19:39:52] <tetraedr> hi everyone [19:40:09] <Nikerabbit> Duesentrieb: I'd really like to have the "new" message cache back... it's hard to update betawiki because it doesn't work with it [19:40:24] <Duesentrieb> why was it reverted? [19:40:53] <tetraedr> I'm installing MediaWiki 1.12.0 on linux, lighttpd + php (fcgi) and I would like to know: is there any way to make use of mod_rewrite? I don't like urls sort of index.php?title=Page_Title [19:40:55] <Nikerabbit> Shinjiman reported some problem with a conversion table that is using message cache directly... [19:41:19] <Nikerabbit> Duesentrieb: line 868 in languageconverter.php [19:41:53] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Create "Liber" namespace on Latin Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14693 +comment (10jeluf) [19:42:06] <Nikerabbit> I have no idea if anybody uses that weird feature of double subpages [19:42:21] <Nikerabbit> the normal case would be pretty easy to fix though [19:42:54] <tetraedr> any ideas on mod_rewrite and fcgi? [19:43:25] <Nikerabbit> tetraedr: yes [19:43:41] <tetraedr> Nikerabbit, ? [19:44:12] <Nikerabbit> url.rewrite-once = ( "^/$" => "/w/index.php", "^/wiki/([^?]*)(?:\?(.*))?" => "/w/index.php?title=$1&$2" [19:44:15] <Nikerabbit> ) [19:44:26] <tetraedr> Nikerabbit, thnx :) [19:45:33] <wikibugs> 03(mod) kkwiki doesn't get MediaWiki:Common.js from DB after r29945 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12717 +comment (10daniel) [19:49:08] <alnokta2> Duesentrieb, but importDump.php have a little bug too [19:49:33] <Duesentrieb> alnokta2: probably. i think it doesn't like duplicate pages, for one thing [19:50:42] <Dantman> Hmmm anyone want to poke me into coding something off priority? I got ElectronicMe, WikiVid, TransWiki, TransImage, ACG, or I could build message sharing and a few methods for recieving donations/ads/chipins so that people can financially poke me to code something... [19:51:01] <Dantman> Oh... WikiCode works to [19:51:02] <Nikerabbit> örr [19:51:13] <Nikerabbit> was that a list of alternatives? [19:51:50] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Portal namespace in slovenian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14674 +comment (10jeluf) [19:51:51] <Dantman> Various things I could do... Main priority is usually ElectronicMe... That's listed there with 6 other things I could do [19:52:05] <brion> hey kids [19:52:10] <Nikerabbit> hey [19:52:27] *brion looks for some british people to taunt with his independence [19:52:35] <Dantman> rotfl [19:52:41] <siebrand> brion: hola. [19:52:51] <Duesentrieb> hey brion. happy 4th. would you look at the extension message oddness for a sec? [19:52:57] <flyingparchment> brion: i celebrate this day too [19:53:02] <flyingparchment> it's when we got rid of all the americans ;-) [19:53:06] <brion> flyingparchment: "good riddance day"? [19:53:10] <Duesentrieb> hehe :) [19:53:10] <brion> :D [19:53:16] <brion> Duesentrieb: sure, what's up [19:53:51] <Duesentrieb> brion: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Duesentrieb/Sandbox [19:53:52] <exobuzz> taunt? it doesn't upset us very much. it was a few years ago ;-) [19:53:59] <alnokta3> Duesentrieb, no, you cannot make it start from a certain page number, everytime you run it, it got to start from the beginning. [19:54:16] <brion> hrmmms [19:54:17] <exobuzz> congrats though... you are welcome to your crappy country ;-) [19:54:20] <Duesentrieb> brion: some extension messages are not found. even though they exist. creating the message pages fixes it. deleting them again causes the problem to resurface. [19:54:38] <brion> sounds like something's forgetting to load the messages [19:54:40] <Duesentrieb> brion: other messages from the same extension appear to work, oddly enough [19:55:07] <Duesentrieb> brion: posssssssible. maybe. that would be, err, me. but but... [19:55:19] <Duesentrieb> i didn't CHANGE anything! [19:55:23] <Duesentrieb> wait. i did :) [19:55:33] <Duesentrieb> brion: i'll double-check and get back to you :) [19:55:38] <brion> eeeeeenterestink [19:55:45] <brion> can't repro it at home so far [19:56:06] <exobuzz> funny that we gave up (well mostly), our British Empire, and now America is trying to build one if its own! [19:56:35] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) setup autopatrol group @ hr.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14694 +comment (10jeluf) [19:57:54] <Duesentrieb> brion: i can reproduce, so its my fault :) [19:58:06] <Duesentrieb> didn't try on a otherwise blank page before, so i didn't notice [19:58:08] <Duesentrieb> sry [19:58:35] <Duesentrieb> (this is what you get for initializing stuff a bit too lazily) [19:58:58] <brion> :D [19:59:43] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Change author - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14673 -shell +need-review; +comment (10jeluf) [20:03:54] <tetraedr> erm.... Warning: xcache_set() [function.xcache-set]: xcache.var_size is either 0 or too small to enable var data caching in... but I got xcache.var_size 6M [20:05:13] <tetraedr> any ideas? [20:05:42] <CIA-54> 03daniel * r37065 10/trunk/extensions/CategoryTree/CategoryTreeFunctions.php: added missing initialization for 'category not found' code path [20:06:02] <Duesentrieb> brion: fixed in 37065. would be cool if you could sync it, but it's not too terribly improtant. it only happens when the category in question is not found. [20:06:23] <brion> ok, will update in a bit [20:07:01] *Duesentrieb shakes fist at odd edge cases [20:07:34] <brion> :D [20:10:43] <tetraedr> (( made xcache to use 128M and var_size 64M but still got the same warning :( [20:12:47] <tetraedr> any ideas how to solve this? [20:17:58] <wikibugs> 06(LATER) Timezone for fi.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14642 +comment (10jeluf) [20:23:32] <tetraedr> how do I change caching type? (from Xcache to APC) [20:24:28] <Nikerabbit> $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_ACCEL; [20:24:29] <Nikerabbit> ? [20:24:53] <Duesentrieb> Nikerabbit: they are both ACCEL... [20:25:00] <Nikerabbit> Duesentrieb: oh? [20:25:04] <Nikerabbit> disable another? [20:25:18] <Duesentrieb> i dunno, never played wit hthis stuff :) [20:26:00] <^demon> brion: Good news. I reviewed the caching. On a full cache hit, _no_ http requests are made to the remote wiki :-) [20:26:10] <^demon> Still need to get a local caching of thumbnails so we're not hotlinking. [20:26:22] <tetraedr> Nikerabbit, still got the same warning even after I've removed xcache and installed apc :( [20:26:44] <Nikerabbit> :< [20:26:55] <Nikerabbit> I'm not familiar with xcache [20:27:03] <tetraedr> I'm removing it :) [20:27:08] <Nikerabbit> tetraedr: make sure you purge the pages, the warnings may stay in cache [20:27:12] <tetraedr> correction: already removed [20:27:23] <tetraedr> erm how do I purge pages? [20:27:31] *tetraedr is a total newbie to MediaWiki [20:27:40] <Nikerabbit> I usually do hard reload with firefox, ctrl+shift+r [20:27:54] <tetraedr> oh [20:27:56] <tetraedr> thnx :) [20:28:03] <tetraedr> didn't thought about browser at all [20:28:29] <brion> ^demon: supah [20:28:39] <brion> though hotlinking is probably the correct behavior in most cases [20:30:11] <tetraedr> is there any repository of themes/skins for mediawiki? [20:32:31] <^demon> brion: I'll make it optional, but I'd rather see most users use it. [20:33:18] <brion> i tend to be leery of things that can arbitrarily fill up the local system with potentailly verrrry large external resources [20:33:34] <^demon> I see your point. [20:37:38] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Please close several Wikimedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14617 +comment (10jeluf) [20:43:25] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) We would like to have a logo set at http://se.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14517 +comment (10jeluf) [20:49:31] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Technical updates to bs.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13451 (10jeluf) [20:54:52] <tetraedr> how do I disable registration [20:54:53] <tetraedr> ? [20:55:41] <CIA-54> 03brion * r37066 10/trunk/extensions/SpamBlacklist/SpamBlacklist_body.php: [20:55:41] <CIA-54> Partial revert of r37016 (attempt to swap out old compat wfGetHTTP() with Http::get()) [20:55:41] <CIA-54> function_exists( 'Http::get' ) always returns false, since that's not a function name. [20:55:41] <CIA-54> If the current state of the extension only works on modern versions of MW, then just call Http::get() without checking. If it still works on versions that predate it, it's best to keep the existing compat code probably. [20:56:01] <brion> tetraedr: i believe there's a page linked from the faq which explains that [20:56:18] <tetraedr> brion, thnx will try it [20:56:29] <Duesentrieb> brion hates the bot :) [20:56:32] <Duesentrieb> !access | tetraedr [20:56:32] --mwbot-- tetraedr: For information on customizing user access, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights>. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access>. [20:57:09] <StarDustLilly> Is anyone here familiar with Semantic Mediawiki? [20:57:24] <tetraedr> Duesentrieb, thnx :) [20:57:55] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Namespaces ( =?UTF-8?Q?=CE=92=CE=B9=CE=BA=CE=B9=CE=BB=CE=B5=CE=BE=CE=B9=CE=BA=CF=8C?=, =?UTF-8?Q?=20=CE=A0=CE=B1=CF=81=CE=AC=CF=81=CF=84=CE=B7=CE=BC=CE=B1?=) for greek wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13492 +comment (10jeluf) [20:58:36] <MostafaDaneshvar> !mwbot [20:58:36] --mwbot-- Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot, you can find all my source code at http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn [21:02:08] <StarDustLilly> Hi does anyone here know much about semantic mediawiki or thumbnails? [21:03:38] <Duesentrieb> !thumbnails | StarDustLilly [21:03:38] --mwbot-- StarDustLilly: For information on configuring thumbnailing on MediaWiki, please refer to <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Image_Administration#Image_thumbnailing>. [21:04:02] <Duesentrieb> !smw | StarDustLilly [21:04:02] --mwbot-- StarDustLilly: SemanticMediaWiki is an extension that lets you conenct wiki pages with semantic relations. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_MediaWiki> and <http://semantic-mediawiki.org/>. Mailing lists are available at <http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=147937>. [21:05:07] <tetraedr> !manual [21:05:07] --mwbot-- An introduction to using MediaWiki is at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents>, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Copying> for information about copying it to your own wiki. More technical information for MediaWiki administrators is at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Contents>. For an introduction on programming with MediaWiki, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_hub>. [21:11:30] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Logo of kaa.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14588 +comment (10jeluf) [21:12:48] <tetraedr> !users [21:12:48] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "users". You might try: !checkuser !deleteuser !dismissablesitenotice !newusergroup !oversight !renameuser !sandbox !subversion !support !userapproval [21:12:54] <tetraedr> !accounts [21:12:54] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "accounts". You might try: !centralauth !renameuser !userapproval [21:12:58] <tetraedr> ( [21:13:03] <Charitwo> tetraedr: anything i can help you with [21:13:24] <tetraedr> I want to create a user. how do I do this? [21:13:33] <tetraedr> didn't find in FAQ [21:13:38] <tetraedr> and in manual to :( [21:15:30] <Duesentrieb> tetraedr: uh, it's the FIRST thing on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access [21:15:41] <Duesentrieb> tetraedr: which is the link i gave you earlier [21:15:49] <Duesentrieb> "Restrict account creation" [21:15:51] <tetraedr> oh, sorry, just found it here [21:15:52] <Duesentrieb> not good enough? [21:15:59] <tetraedr> in the notes section [21:16:07] <tetraedr> thnx [21:16:20] <Duesentrieb> notes?... [21:16:34] <tetraedr> Note: New users will still be able to be created by sysops, in the following manner: [21:17:22] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Allow all users to see patrolled flag on Russian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13877 +comment (10jeluf) [21:17:53] <siebrand> brion: re r37066. Isn't that what we branch extensions for and why Tim made it possible to easily download branched extension packages? [21:18:01] <siebrand> brion: s/what/why [21:18:14] <siebrand> brion: ignore the replace :) [21:19:12] <brion> siebrand: the code as modified completely fails, hence the revert [21:19:50] <siebrand> brion: ok. clear. It's the elaboration about backward compatibility that triggered my remark. [21:20:47] <brion> right well hence my explanation of bla bla if it's required [21:23:16] <CIA-54> 03brion * r37067 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [21:23:16] <CIA-54> Revert r37063 "KTHMLfixes no longer loaded on skins where it doesn't exist. (bug 14717)" [21:23:16] <CIA-54> * Hardcoding to monobook doesn't make sense here; other skins may include such fix files [21:23:16] <CIA-54> * Only addressing KHTMLfixes doesn't make sense here; there's a big pile of Opera fixes right above it which would presumably suffer the same problem [21:23:18] <CIA-54> If these are required, and are required per-skin, then the skin should probably specify to the JS which ones it needs. [21:23:21] <CIA-54> On the other hand, if they're not required, or can be done in a skin-independent fashion, then that should be checked. [21:23:34] <wikibugs> 04(REOPENED) wikibits includes nonexistent stylesheet, KHTMLfixes.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14717 +comment (10brion) [21:24:29] <Charitwo> better watch out brion, you're approaching Dantman's diatribe reasoning lengths ;) [21:24:47] *^demon|away feels reverted [21:24:50] <Dantman> heh [21:25:33] <brion> it is better to code and be reverted than never to have coded at all [21:25:54] <tetraedr> !delete user [21:25:54] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "delete". You might try: !deleteuser !protect !worstcase [21:25:59] <tetraedr> !remove [21:25:59] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "remove". You might try: !oversight !phpinfo !safemode !userapproval !webrequest [21:26:02] <brion> svn up time! [21:26:14] <tetraedr> !oversight [21:26:14] --mwbot-- Oversighting removes revisions from access by normal users and sysops. More information is available here: <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Oversight>. [21:26:14] <Mike_lifeguard> tetraedr: [[mw:Extension:User Delete and Merge]] [21:26:15] <Charitwo> tetraedr: you can't delete users, but you can rename them with a bureaucrat flag [21:26:27] <Charitwo> onces with contributions anyway [21:26:29] <Charitwo> ones [21:26:42] <tetraedr> hm... pretty strange politics: admin can't delete user [21:26:51] <tetraedr> Mike_lifeguard: thnx [21:27:06] <exobuzz> brion: i dont understand why you reverted that. it is really annoying for skins which dont need it. so i should make a blank khtmlfix file? [21:27:08] <exobuzz> seems silly [21:27:10] <Duesentrieb> tetraedr: not strange at all. user records are part of site logging and page histories. removing them would break the log. [21:27:10] <Mike_lifeguard> tetraedr: it is better to ask us than the bot unless you know the bot will have an answer for you [21:27:12] <exobuzz> its specific to monobook [21:27:33] <Duesentrieb> tetraedr: if you think about it, it's pretty clear: the wiki logs everything. nothing can "really" be removed. [21:27:59] <brion> exobuzz: did you see my commit message in which i explain why it's wrong? [21:28:06] <CIA-54> 03siebrand * r37068 10/trunk/extensions/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Improve descriptions for a few recently added description messages [21:28:20] <exobuzz> brion: yes and it makes no sense for me, since the fixes only affect monobook and not other custom skins [21:28:40] <exobuzz> ? [21:28:46] <brion> exobuzz: if it's hardcoded to one skin, it'll fail for any other skin which also has such a fix file [21:28:49] <brion> ergo -> FAIL [21:29:01] <brion> second, there's three other identical things RIGHT ABOVE IT which suffer the same problem [21:29:05] <brion> why fix one and not four? [21:29:14] <exobuzz> such other skins would include the fix in teh skin code themselves [21:29:19] <exobuzz> and not neccessaily in javascript [21:29:27] <brion> ......... [21:29:30] <exobuzz> they all should be fixed [21:29:45] <brion> then the proper fix is not to have it in the common js code hardcoded for one skin [21:29:51] <brion> do you see where i'm going with this? [21:29:57] <brion> it's not the right fix, thus i reverted it [21:30:01] <brion> i'd prefer a proper fix instead [21:30:41] <Duesentrieb> man, ff3 keeps freezing on me for no good reason :/ [21:30:59] <exobuzz> brion: i do see.. partly :) [21:31:31] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Logo of sq.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14608 +comment (10jeluf) [21:31:47] <CIA-54> 03brion * r37069 10/trunk/extensions/StalePages/StalePages.php: syntax err [21:31:54] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Show some gadgets only for admins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12211 (10maxsem.wiki) [21:32:14] <exobuzz> i did away for almost all fixes for my skin, and decided if ie6 doesnt render it perfectly. then f*ck ie6 ;-) [21:32:18] <exobuzz> etc [21:32:28] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Show some gadgets only for admins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12211 +need-review +patch (10maxsem.wiki) [21:33:08] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Allow for gadgets to be turned on by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13742 (10maxsem.wiki) [21:33:16] <tetraedr> !manual [21:33:16] --mwbot-- An introduction to using MediaWiki is at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents>, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Copying> for information about copying it to your own wiki. More technical information for MediaWiki administrators is at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Contents>. For an introduction on programming with MediaWiki, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_hub>. [21:33:21] <CIA-54> 03alnokta * r37070 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [21:33:21] <CIA-54> Added localization of edit button images for Tarask Belarusian (be-tarask). [21:33:21] <CIA-54> Images by http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AlexeyMargolin [21:33:44] <exobuzz> did i mention my wiki recently? <spam>http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page</spam> :) [21:33:57] <exobuzz> s/my/our i suppose [21:34:20] <tetraedr> hmm.. how do I get localized copy of manual? [21:34:56] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Change Style of Subcategories from bold to normal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14730 trivial; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CategoryTree; (apper) [21:35:11] <tetraedr> oh, found it [21:35:23] <exobuzz> tetraedr: there are other language links at the bottom. [21:36:48] <Nikerabbit> uh [21:36:52] <Nikerabbit> Duesentrieb: what's that? [21:37:07] <Duesentrieb> Nikerabbit: hm? what? [21:37:18] <RoanKattouw> brion: Dunno if you saw it already but JeLuF requested you review the ChangeAuthor extension which was requested to be enabled on Wikimedia in bug 14673. If you've got any questions about it, ask me, I wrote it [21:37:23] <tetraedr> exobuzz, but there's no russian language :( [21:37:26] <Nikerabbit> Duesentrieb: that bug... already fixed? [21:37:30] <exobuzz> tetraedr: translate it [21:37:43] <exobuzz> :) [21:37:52] <tetraedr> exobuzz, it'll take toooo long :( [21:37:53] <Duesentrieb> Nikerabbit: what bug? ff3 freezing? mit mw-related [21:37:55] <exobuzz> then the next russian will be happy :-) [21:37:57] <Duesentrieb> err. [21:37:59] <Duesentrieb> Nikerabbit: *not [21:38:07] <tetraedr> exobuzz, the problem is not in the manual [21:38:15] <Nikerabbit> Duesentrieb: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14730 [21:38:15] <Duesentrieb> it just likes to freeze on various sites. soup.io, for example [21:38:26] <tetraedr> exobuzz, it has russian translation, but in the http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Copying [21:38:58] <Duesentrieb> Nikerabbit: oh that. i liked it, but rotem took it out a while back :) [21:39:14] <tetraedr> exobuzz, there's no russian translation and I can't copy it [21:39:22] <CIA-54> 03brion * r37071 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/wikipedia-interwiki.sql: fix sql syntax error [21:39:32] <Nikerabbit> Duesentrieb: it wasn't the first complaint today :o [21:39:49] <Duesentrieb> Nikerabbit: complaint about what? the bolding? [21:39:55] <Nikerabbit> yes [21:40:03] <Duesentrieb> well, it's gone in trunk [21:42:23] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Change Style of Subcategories from bold to normal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14730 +comment (10daniel) [21:43:20] <alnokta3> Nikerabbit, svn up betawiki? [21:48:08] <Nikerabbit> alnokta3: didn't I already? [21:48:55] <CIA-54> 03brion * r37072 10/trunk/phase3/ (20 files in 4 dirs): Break localized edit buttons into subdirectories so they'll stay manageable [21:49:37] <alnokta3> Nikerabbit, http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Test&action=edit&uselang=be-tarask [21:49:42] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Wiki for Wikimedia Russia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14731 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (maxsem.wiki) [21:53:14] <CIA-54> 03nicdumz * r37073 10/branches/category-redirects/includes/ (14 files in 3 dirs): Use cl_inline instead of the old cl_to: first raw/dumb implementation; buggy. [21:55:53] <NicDumZ> pfiuuu... [21:56:02] <NicDumZ|Zzz> ;) [22:12:39] <tetraedr> how can I create some categorized menu which will have: categorie name, it's subcategories/articles in this category and make it tree-like? [22:14:17] <StarDustLilly> Hi [22:14:33] <tetraedr> hi [22:15:16] <StarDustLilly> Does anyone here know an extension that displays random images in a catogory [22:17:05] <StarDustLilly> well just the thumbnails [22:19:26] <StarDustLilly> Any ideas? [22:19:33] <Nikerabbit> alnokta3: magic [22:20:03] <StarDustLilly> that's what i need [22:21:31] <brion> tetraedr: sounds like you want the CategoryTree extension? [22:21:44] <brion> StarDustLilly: maybe the RandomImage extension? [22:22:35] <StarDustLilly> I need to make a thumbnail gallery with only lets say 5 images for each catogory [22:22:43] <StarDustLilly> would that be able to do it? [22:22:58] <brion> take a look at it and see [22:23:26] <StarDustLilly> How do i find extensions systamatically on Mediawiki? [22:23:50] <NicDumZ|Zzz> okay, I'm not sleeping. I think that php warnings are not being printed while running deferred LinksUpdate for example. How can I get these ? :) [22:24:01] <alnokta3> Nikerabbit, ye :) [22:24:13] <brion> search? look at the extensions list? google? [22:26:46] <CIA-54> 03guyvdb * r37074 10/branches/visual_diff/phase3/includes/Diff.php: O(NP) diffing, first attempt [22:28:24] <StarDustLilly> Thanks for the suggestion brion but it doesnt let me select from different catogories [22:28:45] <brion> well, go ahead and customize it [22:28:50] <brion> or look for something else [22:28:59] <StarDustLilly> i suck! at programing [22:29:02] <brion> :) [22:31:38] <tetraedr> is it possuble to: create tree of existing categories and their subcategories/articles, which will be shown as left menu and when I create some article I would set articles category [22:32:07] <tetraedr> ? [22:33:07] <tetraedr> ? [22:34:11] <StarDustLilly> Any other suggestions? [22:40:04] <Duesentrieb> StarDustLilly: look at the smoothgallery extension. [22:41:14] <Duesentrieb> tetraedr: CategoryTree can show a tree. it can be embedded in thesidebar (easily only in the latest version, committed that yesterday). It can not be used to put a page into a category though [22:41:26] <Duesentrieb> there's something called "categoryselector" or some such for that [22:41:57] <StarDustLilly> Hey Duesentrieb - I have lookedd at smoothgallery but i really need thumbnails - not a slideshow [22:42:09] <StarDustLilly> categoryselector? [22:42:15] <tetraedr> Duesentrieb, thnx, but where do I get this? [22:42:29] <Duesentrieb> tetraedr: search mediawiki.org? [22:42:37] <Duesentrieb> !extensions [22:42:37] --mwbot-- MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions> for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix> for an overview of known extensions. [22:43:02] <tetraedr> Duesentrieb, thnx [22:43:24] <Duesentrieb> StarDustLilly: hm... pulling x images from a category would be a nice feature for the <gallery> tag. [22:43:53] <StarDustLilly> does the galley tag let you define the category? [22:44:03] <Duesentrieb> i donÄt think so [22:44:20] <Duesentrieb> maybe someone has extended it to do something like that [22:44:54] <StarDustLilly> do you know the extension - minipreview [22:45:10] <Duesentrieb> nope [22:45:10] <CIA-54> 03brion * r37075 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiFormatXml.php: (log message trimmed) [22:45:10] <CIA-54> Revert r37009 -- turns out you can do these structures, it's just very nonobvious. :) [22:45:10] <CIA-54> An anonymous sub-array allows creating sub-elements in addition to the attributes: [22:45:10] <CIA-54> array( [22:45:10] <CIA-54> 'attrib1' => 'val1', [22:45:11] <CIA-54> 'attrib2' => 'val2', [22:45:15] <CIA-54> array( [22:45:33] <StarDustLilly> it sound like it does what i want but it doesnt have any usage instructions [22:46:22] <tekmosis> Is there any way (be it a variable toggle) to turn off HTML so users are forced to use the wiki markup [22:46:58] <StarDustLilly> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MiniPreview [22:47:04] <StarDustLilly> thats the link [22:51:33] <StarDustLilly> Any ideas? [22:52:26] <tetraedr> too much of pain to make mediawiki work my way :( [22:52:38] <tetraedr> sorry people, but I think I'll look for something else [22:53:33] <StarDustLilly> tetraedr what did you want to do? [22:54:17] <tetraedr> StarDustLilly, I'll explain what I need and then what I tried to do [22:54:25] <tetraedr> I need a small wiki for 5-7 people [22:54:27] <tetraedr> which can: [22:55:00] <tetraedr> tree menu of existing information as navigation [22:55:14] <tetraedr> it may expand to show existing articles [22:55:27] <StarDustLilly> what do you mean by tree menu? [22:55:44] <tetraedr> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Extensions [22:55:50] <tetraedr> look at Subcategories [22:56:19] <StarDustLilly> ok [22:56:44] <tetraedr> +auto assigning category when I create page from category [22:57:19] <tetraedr> sort of: there's a button "add page" in category menu/page [22:57:35] <tetraedr> which sends user to create page [22:57:39] <tetraedr> with predefined params [22:57:55] <tetraedr> normal search within categories [22:58:09] <tetraedr> and a lot more [22:58:40] <CIA-54> 03daniel * r37076 10/trunk/extensions/CategoryTree/ (CategoryTree.php CategoryTreePage.i18n.alias.php): support special page aliases [22:58:54] <StarDustLilly> what do you want to do in a simple sentance? Be able to cattogorizery page [22:59:09] <tetraedr> and this to [23:00:25] <StarDustLilly> what about this it's much easier - http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.liang-chen.com/images/my_websites/add_article_to_category_extension/Add%2520Article%2520To%2520Category%2520Extension.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.liang-chen.com/myworld/content/view/36/70/&h=207&w=679&sz=37&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=EQKwFA0CyoJnlM:&tbnh=42&tbnw=139&prev=/images%3Fq%3DMediawiki%2BGRE%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozi [23:01:36] <tetraedr> and what about tree menu naviagatiom? [23:01:41] <tetraedr> *navigation [23:01:51] <StarDustLilly> i dont know about that sorry [23:01:56] <Duesentrieb> that's what CategoryTree does [23:02:20] <Duesentrieb> on a special page, all category pages, and emedded in articles of you want. [23:03:33] <tetraedr> Duesentrieb, all that category tree did is broke whole MediaWiki: I can't login, got some strange php errors [23:03:58] <Duesentrieb> You Are Doing It Wrong Then (tm) [23:04:04] <Duesentrieb> anyway, i'm off to bed. [23:04:52] <tetraedr> good night [23:05:03] <Nikerabbit> me too, night! [23:05:05] <StarDustLilly> Does anyone know how to create a gallery of images from a particular category [23:05:11] <StarDustLilly> Goodnight! [23:05:49] <tekmosis> Is there any way to load a template (ie: Template:Edit_help) into MonoBook.php? [23:06:23] <tetraedr> bye people [23:08:52] <StarDustLilly> ? [23:09:07] <StarDustLilly> Please Ping me if You have any suggestions? [23:11:48] <TimStarling> StarDustLilly: like this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:1850s_fashion [23:12:24] <TimStarling> you go to the category page and there it is, pretty simple really [23:12:55] <StarDustLilly> Yes but i need a thumbnail gallery [23:13:12] <StarDustLilly> with 5 images from each category on the page [23:13:34] <TimStarling> that's a thumbnail gallery [23:13:55] <StarDustLilly> yes [23:14:07] <StarDustLilly> any ideas? [23:14:39] <TimStarling> it's not really a matter for ideas [23:14:51] <TimStarling> you can put up with what you're given, or you can write your own [23:16:22] <StarDustLilly> Hi - Does anyone know where the code that generates the catogory pages is? [23:17:01] <TimStarling> hi StarDustLilly [23:17:12] <TimStarling> includes/CategoryPage.php [23:17:27] <TimStarling> but the gallery part is ImageGallery.php [23:17:42] <TimStarling> it's also used for <gallery> tags [23:19:25] <StarDustLilly> At present my categories dont display any images [23:20:27] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Respect wgArticlePath and wgActionPaths options for all URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13348 (10brion) [23:21:40] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) Concealing search results that are listed in robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13439 (10brion) [23:29:19] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Rename Spam blacklist to "URL exclusion list" or "URL Blacklist " - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14719 (10mike.lifeguard) [23:33:41] <StarDustLilly> How can i create an Thumbnail Gallery that displays just a few images in a category [23:34:08] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) Special pop-up/ warning when an article contains Unicode characters. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14521 +comment (10brion) [23:38:35] <darkcode> <gallery widths="16px" heights="16px"> [23:38:41] <darkcode> Image:some image [23:38:46] <darkcode> Image:some other image [23:38:50] <darkcode> </gallery> [23:39:25] <darkcode> oh from a category [23:39:33] <wikibugs> 14(INVALID) Spelling mistake - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14527 +comment (10brion) [23:39:47] <StarDustLilly> hey darkcode and automatically generated [23:40:15] <StarDustLilly> basically i need a thumbnail gallery [23:40:38] <darkcode> you could use DPL to do that probably [23:40:47] <StarDustLilly> DPL? [23:40:56] <darkcode> ya DynamicPageList [23:41:23] <StarDustLilly> where do i get that - what does it do? [23:41:31] <TimStarling> or he could just use limit=5 [23:41:36] <TimStarling> on an ordinary category page [23:42:01] <StarDustLilly> Tim i need these thumbnails on one page [23:42:19] <darkcode> I'm assiming StarDustLilly wants to include the thumbnails on another page [23:42:31] <StarDustLilly> correct Darkcode [23:43:18] <TimStarling> good luck with that [23:43:52] <StarDustLilly> DPL seems to be just for articles [23:44:32] <StarDustLilly> i have semanticmedia wiki installed too - does that help? [23:44:58] <darkcode> well DPL can list pages in a category including image pages [23:45:08] <darkcode> you would simply do something like namespace = Image [23:45:36] <darkcode> don't know anything about semanticmedia wiki [23:45:43] <StarDustLilly> This sounds really promising [23:48:56] <StarDustLilly> starting to instal it [23:51:35] <StarDustLilly> it crashed my site [23:53:05] <Mike_lifeguard> \o/ [23:53:41] <StarDustLilly> darkcode - i think its working now [23:54:11] <StarDustLilly> What was your suggestion about namespaces [23:57:25] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Create proofread page namespaces on Greek Wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14732 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (jayvdb) [23:58:56] <Dantman|Coding> :/ I'm actually starting to lothe the @