[00:00:06] <darkcode>	namespace = Image
[00:00:33] <StarDustLilly>	will this generate actual images or just a list of titles?
[00:01:20] <Charitwo>	O_o
[00:02:25] <darkcode>	you'll have to mess with it some, but you should be able to use it to include the actual images
[00:02:25] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Reverting Edit Problem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14538  (10brion)
[00:03:05] <StarDustLilly>	i'll try - thanks darkcode
[00:03:37] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Redirect wm08reg root to registration form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14545  +comment (10brion)
[00:03:52] <StarDustLilly>	i really appreciate it
[00:04:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Remove bugs.wikipedia.org redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14546  +comment (10brion)
[00:04:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Remove "bugs.wikipedia.org" redirect to Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14378  (10brion)
[00:05:21] <darkcode>	<dpl>
[00:05:24] <darkcode>	category = Foo
[00:05:27] <darkcode>	escapelinks = false
[00:05:50] <darkcode>	mode = userformat
[00:06:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) document.write() breaks under application/xhtml+xml in skins/ common/wikibits.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2186  (10brion)
[00:06:27] <darkcode>	listseparators=[[%PAGE%]]
[00:06:32] <darkcode>	namespace = Image
[00:06:34] <darkcode>	</dpl>
[00:06:41] <darkcode>	or something like that
[00:07:54] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Cannot substitute templates withing <ref> tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14550  +comment (10brion)
[00:08:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Pre-save transform skips extensions using wikitext (gallery, references, pipe trick, subst, signatures) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2700  +comment (10brion)
[00:09:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create proofread page namespaces on Greek Wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14732  +comment (10andreas.schwab)
[00:09:26] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Option to remove log entries from watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14552  +comment (10brion)
[00:10:35] <StarDustLilly>	getting a warning that says no results
[00:15:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Preferred video format in the user preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14565  (10brion)
[00:17:20] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Create the 'MediaWiki default' user on wiki creation, or on upgrade if user does not exist. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14569  +comment (10brion)
[00:20:38] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) New API to give latest dump file release - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14584  +comment (10brion)
[00:23:31] <StarDustLilly>	Hey Darkcode do you know how to create a table in DPL?
[00:24:31] <darkcode>	take a look at http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?title=Main_Page
[00:24:51] <darkcode>	it gives plenty of examples of different uses for it
[00:25:01] <StarDustLilly>	Thanx!
[00:25:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Linksearch should be case insensitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14591  (10brion)
[00:32:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Problem with project talk namespace in Hungarian Wikinews, Wikisource and Wikiquote - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14599  (10brion)
[00:36:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) <p> tags in front of all parser functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14607  (10brion)
[00:38:38] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Change undo into its own seperate group permission - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14616  +comment (10brion)
[00:39:04] *Charitwo 	bops brion
[00:41:28] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Show log items on Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14619  +comment (10brion)
[00:41:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add logs entries to user contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3716  +comment (10brion)
[00:42:23] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Add logs entries to user contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3716  +comment (10brion)
[00:44:06] <AaronSchulz>	brion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR2Uml4aUF0
[00:44:55] <tekmosis>	If I have $foobar = "== Foo Bar =="; and I want to properly output that from MonoBook.php what should I use?
[00:45:51] <tekmosis>	I tried using $wgOut->addWikiText and $this->msgWiki the first does nothing, second add < and > around it but it does properly translate
[00:46:13] <tekmosis>	actually sorry, no, it doesn't translate
[00:47:02] <StarDustLilly>	if an image is in a page that is on a category it does it mean that that image is in a category?
[00:47:09] <AaronSchulz>	brion: meow! deadly and beautiful! :)
[00:48:35] <darkcode>	no. an image is only in a category if the category is added to the Image: page
[00:49:34] <StarDustLilly>	how do i add exsiting images to a category?
[00:50:08] <Mike_lifeguard>	StarDustLilly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorization#How_to_categorize_an_article - works the same for images
[00:52:13] <darkcode>	the same way as you would any page
[00:54:36] <StarDustLilly>	do i do this on the image page:?
[00:55:52] <Mike_lifeguard>	click 
[00:55:53] <Mike_lifeguard>	edit
[00:56:16] <Mike_lifeguard>	and add the category
[00:57:09] <tekmosis>	Why, in MonoBook.php if I use $this->msgWiki does it append < and > to the start and end of the text? how can I disable this?
[00:58:58] <YurtleTheTurtle>	substr($this->msgWiki, 1 ,-1); :)
[01:00:16] <tekmosis>	Well, I don't want to do a bunch of substr of preg_replace's all over the place, that was my only concern
[01:00:29] <StarDustLilly>	Thank You!
[01:00:53] <YurtleTheTurtle>	Ya i understand. I do not know anything about how it works.
[01:01:08] <tekmosis>	hmm, well, thanks for the input anyways 
[01:01:21] <YurtleTheTurtle>	It was more of a smartass answer anyhoo
[01:01:29] <tekmosis>	:P
[01:01:35] <tekmosis>	better than no reply at all, lol
[01:02:09] <YurtleTheTurtle>	internet chat realy is rarely used for chatting anymore
[01:02:35] <YurtleTheTurtle>	or is that relay chat, oh well
[01:28:17] <_Vi>	How to upgrade from mediawiki 1.7 to mediawiki 1.12 without reading all database entries? (such as adding rows to tables)
[01:29:05] <_Vi>	Tables was created using xml2sql and are very large and stored on transparently compressed filesystem.
[01:38:26] <YurtleTheTurtle>	I'm sorry was that a question?
[01:38:35] <_Vi>	How to upgrade from mediawiki 1.7 to mediawiki 1.12 without reading all database entries? (such as adding rows to tables)
[01:38:37] <_Vi>	Tables was created using xml2sql and are very large and stored on transparently compressed filesystem.
[01:39:16] <_Vi>	How to upgrade from 1.7 to 1.12 without changing the database (or with minor changes)
[01:39:30] <Dantman|Coding>	_Vi: Please stop repeating your question, you're merely spamming at this point
[01:39:31] <YurtleTheTurtle>	It won't work unfortunatly, the schema has changed.
[01:39:44] <YurtleTheTurtle>	AFAIK at least.
[01:39:49] <_Vi>	Dantman|Coding, I was asked to.
[01:40:31] <Dantman|Coding>	You're going to have to use update.php or manually run queries... There is no way to run MW with one schema on MW that requires another schema... We change the schema for a reason
[01:41:09] <_Vi>	Any process that touch each entry in any of the big tables is at least 30 hours.
[01:41:55] <Dantman|Coding>	New features, or performance tweaks... Those are the reasons for updating, and it's pretty stupid to ask 'Can I have these new features, but only update half the stuff needed for them?'
[01:42:02] <YurtleTheTurtle>	Then I would suggest you diable the software during that time, so your users see a "Currently upgrading" message instead of an error.
[01:42:09] <_Vi>	So there's no switch like "v1.7 compatibility".
[01:42:16] <Dantman|Coding>	Of course not
[01:42:16] <YurtleTheTurtle>	Nope
[01:42:19] <_Vi>	I use this wiki exclusively.
[01:42:45] <Dantman|Coding>	That would be insanely ugly inside of the code, prone to insane breakage, and slow down the development of MW
[01:42:52] <_Vi>	It is created from Wikipedia dump for use on my laptop when I'm offline.
[01:43:22] <Dantman|Coding>	If that's the case, then why not just import a new dump into a new wiki?
[01:43:27] <_Vi>	May be it is possible to provide some "emulation" on the database level....
[01:43:48] <YurtleTheTurtle>	Do you think it will take you less then those 30hrs to do that?
[01:43:58] <_Vi>	It is _very_ slow and computer is thrashing heavily during this process, especially when index doesn't fit to memory.
[01:44:42] <_Vi>	HDD is rather slow + dynamic compression of filesystem. (It save more that 70% of space).
[01:45:34] <_Vi>	OK, Can I get progress indication of update process? Will be the database useable while upgrading?
[01:45:46] <_Vi>	I also need resume capability.
[01:46:35] <_Vi>	Computer also may crash during this, because of it is development computer too. /* Should I just stay with 1.17? */
[01:55:41] <YurtleTheTurtle>	Anyone know of an extention that will let you tag images with keywords, then subesequently search by those keywords?
[02:03:31] <Dantman>	ImageTagging, Semantic MediaWiki?
[02:05:35] <YurtleTheTurtle>	Not quite but it will provide a base for the code. I'm looking for somthing that will let people put in words abuot the image like beach, water, sand, blue, etc. and let people search for an image like that. But ImageTagging deff provides the building blocks for me to just make it myself.
[02:06:12] <YurtleTheTurtle>	thanks
[02:07:57] <Dantman>	Eh?
[02:08:47] <YurtleTheTurtle>	Nothing. Thanks  :)
[02:08:49] <Dantman>	ImageTagging was sorta good for tagging people (Wikia actually disabled it, so it's going to have issues), I'd think SMW would work better... Just create a UI for it
[02:09:28] <Dantman>	SMW would be better with just the generic tagging... ;) And it already has a query language
[02:10:02] <YurtleTheTurtle>	I'll look into it, never heard of it before.
[02:10:20] <Dantman>	It would be interesting If you did something like extend SemanticForms to work with InlineForms
[02:11:20] <YurtleTheTurtle>	I'm only limited by my time and supply of caffine, but I need to get this extension done one way or the other :)
[02:12:11] <Dantman>	^_^ Resources is always my issue
[02:14:47] <YurtleTheTurtle>	Oh wow SMW is good. I'm gonna have to tinker with this.
[02:28:06] <Dantman>	Hmm... I think I finally found my spot... Parser::getTemplateDom should be the perfect spot to introduce a new hook
[02:39:04] <Dantman>	Mmm... finally ParserBeforeTranscludeTemplate
[02:42:49] *G 	goes and reads up on adding hooks
[03:05:31] <Dantman>	Oh god, I can't stand this machine
[03:09:21] <CIA-54>	03shinjiman * r37077 10/trunk/tools/planet/zh/config.ini: 
[03:09:21] <CIA-54>	+Wikimedia Hong Kong
[03:09:21] <CIA-54>	+Yuyu
[03:22:24] <Dantman>	^_^ Yay, I have the perfect hook
[03:22:33] <Dantman>	http://dev.wiki-tools.com/wiki/TransTest ;) heh
[03:36:25] <CIA-54>	03dantman * r37078 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES docs/hooks.txt includes/parser/Parser.php): 
[03:36:25] <CIA-54>	New hook ParserBeforeTranscludeTemplate:
[03:36:25] <CIA-54>	This hook allows for modification of the title and text of a template which is being transcluded.
[03:36:25] <CIA-54>	Use of this hook will allow extensions to create features such as TransWiki for an alternative to ScaryTransclusions.
[03:37:39] <Dantman>	got to leave now
[03:49:42] <G>	$wgUser is exposed to all extensions right?
[03:50:30] <nakon>	it's a global object
[03:50:31] <nakon>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUser
[03:50:34] <^demon>	G: $wgUser is global 
[03:50:58] <G>	thanks
[03:52:24] <amirman>	i have some questions about interfacing with wikipedia. i'm trying to build a commandline application for linux that will output the body of an article to the commandline interface. is this the right channel to ask that question?
[03:52:53] <amirman>	more specifically i'm wondering if wikipedia provides any way of isolating the body of the article from the rest of the page
[03:53:21] <gpowers>	what is your datasource? Are you trying to pull data off the wikipedia web sites or a local mirror?
[03:53:43] <amirman>	gpowers: i was planning on getting the data from the net, via wget
[03:53:48] <Splarka>	amirman: you can use action=render via index.php
[03:53:55] <Splarka>	or use action=parse via the api
[03:54:08] <Splarka>	(if you want the rendered wikitext that is)
[03:54:10] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo?action=render
[03:54:22] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=parse&page=Foo
[03:54:39] <amirman>	sparkla: this is my first script really, so i don't really know what you mean
[03:54:44] <Splarka>	well
[03:54:47] <Splarka>	do you want [[foo]]
[03:54:54] <gpowers>	that is cool! :)
[03:54:59] <Splarka>	or do you want <a href="/wiki/foo">foo</a>
[03:55:19] <Splarka>	(wikitext or finished html)
[03:56:33] <amirman>	i guess i want the [[foo]] to show up as just foo
[03:57:17] <Splarka>	well, compare:
[03:57:21] <Splarka>	raw wikicode: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvprop=content&titles=foo
[03:57:26] <Splarka>	rendered html: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=parse&page=Foo
[03:58:42] <Splarka>	if you're going to show it as plain text, you probably want to use the rendered html and strip all tags,  \<[^>]*\>
[03:58:57] <amirman>	hmm
[03:59:30] <Splarka>	see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php for more options
[03:59:57] <amirman>	hehe, thanks, i'm just deep in though wondering how i could use those two that you sent me
[04:00:30] <amirman>	i'm a total newbie when it comes to writing a script, i thought this one would be a great start since wikimedia has such a good api
[04:02:48] <amirman>	Splarka: the raw wikicode link seems to be the right one, but i don't know. i wonder if my script is trying to read that page its probably not going to see it as the simple text that i see is it?
[04:04:22] <Splarka>	the raw wikicode isn't expanded, so you won't see templates (infoboxes, boilerplates, navigation boxes, etc)
[04:04:56] <amirman>	Splarka: the rendered html link shows me "&lt;p&gt;" about 1000 times interspersed throughout the text of the article and everywhere else, i'm wondering how i could isolate just the text of the article from all that
[04:06:04] <Splarka>	yes... that is escaped html
[04:06:05] <Splarka>	<p>
[04:06:48] <Splarka>	convert &lt; to <, &gt; to >, (quote, amp, etc as well), and then regex out \<[^>]*\>
[04:07:29] *^demon 	wants to write an action for the API that strips all wikicode and returns the raw text.
[04:07:49] *amirman 	wants ^demon to succeed
[04:08:22] <amirman>	yeah, i dont need any links or anything like that i just want plain readable text of the article
[04:08:36] *^demon 	is also aware that it is after midnight and no such thing will be happening tonight
[04:14:42] <amirman>	lol
[04:16:41] <Splarka>	what would it be, action=sparse? heh
[04:17:06] <^demon>	Splarka: action=plaintext?
[04:18:59] <Splarka>	I think it would be somewhat futile
[04:19:18] <Splarka>	some extensions stick in <script> or <style> inline, you wouldn't want the content of those
[04:19:38] <Splarka>	and boilerplates, infoboxes, navigation boxes
[04:21:30] <^demon>	I know. I looked into it once. Gave up about 15 minutes later.
[04:21:39] <amirman>	hehe
[04:21:59] <amirman>	so i'm basically trying to achieve something you guys who know your stuff have trouble accomplishing?
[04:22:31] <^demon>	Yep :-)
[04:22:36] <amirman>	or is it easier for me writing the script since the action is done clientside
[04:23:12] <^demon>	Probably easier for you. Personally, I'd rather deal with the HTML and try to strip from there as opposed to the raw wikicode. I would think it easier.
[04:23:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Problem with project talk namespace in Hungarian Wikinews, Wikisource and Wikiquote - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14599  (10N/A)
[04:23:41] <Splarka>	indeed
[04:28:18] <amirman>	i don't even know how to strip that stuff out yet, i just spent half an hour figuring out how to get grep to find text in between two tags
[04:30:54] <^demon>	I know PHP has a function called strip_tags(). Never used it though.
[04:36:08] <amirman>	what about using the xml file?
[04:36:31] <amirman>	it looks pretty clean, i just need to get what's in between the text tags
[04:37:17] <^demon>	Doable, yes.
[05:11:51] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Allow stewards to set rights on multiple wikis at once - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4564  +comment (10maxsem.wiki)
[05:30:29] <G>	is there an easy way to find out if a specific revision of a page is the latest? (i.e. is revision 1234 the newest there is for whatever page it refers to)
[05:32:44] <Splarka>	compare:
[05:32:45] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=info&revids=1234
[05:32:48] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=info&revids=15904554
[05:33:55] <G>	err sorry, should have clarified it, I'm talking about in an extension
[05:34:26] <G>	oh I see, lastrevid
[05:36:58] <G>	Splarka: thanks!
[05:37:05] <Splarka>	rar
[05:37:49] <G>	currently writing an extension, the main aim is to learn a bit about the code so I can do proper dev work :)
[05:38:06] <SQLDb>	This might seem a bit of a silly idea, but, I've been participating in PHP's TestFest a bit ago, and, the general PHP QA stuff... I wonder, if doing something like that for MW would be useful... A test suite, that checked that each function does what it's supposed to? Might be useful for troubleshooting as well? Or, could be a ginormous waste of time...
[05:38:29] *SQLDb 	cracks beer #3
[05:38:41] <SQLDb>	G: sounds neat, what'cha workin on?
[05:38:44] <G>	SQLDb: what like "save a page, then check in MW returns it properly" type of thing?
[05:39:14] <SQLDb>	G: yeah, something like that
[05:39:16] <G>	and on and on for most of the classes
[05:39:20] <SQLDb>	indeed
[05:39:25] <G>	that sounds quite sane actually
[05:39:58] <G>	wouldn't it add a bit to the dev work-flow though, if they change how a class works, it's a change of the test suite
[05:40:20] <SQLDb>	G: yeah, MW changes a lot more often than PHP.
[05:40:42] <SQLDb>	I think we have something like that in ParserTests
[05:41:23] <SQLDb>	linky: http://qa.php.net/testfest.php
[05:41:48] <G>	yeah, I just had to use it for php6 :)
[05:42:27] <SQLDb>	G: neat! :) I've written several testcases now :) It's actually a lot of fun... I've got a diverse setup here, so, I can check PHP against most popular OS'es and versions locally here....
[05:43:20] <SQLDb>	(everything but Windows ME and MAC basically.... BSD, Debian, Windows 98, XP, Vista, 2000, CentOS, Unbuntu, SuSE)
[05:46:00] <SQLDb>	...Maybe I'
[05:46:02] <SQLDb>	ERM
[05:46:20] <SQLDb>	...Maybe I'll go nuts and post my idea to the mailing list and see what folks think....
[06:02:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install ImportFreeImages (Flickr) extension on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8854  -shell +need-review; +comment (10jeluf)
[06:27:45] <darian>	hello
[06:28:52] <SQLDb>	darian: hi there! :)
[06:29:00] <darian>	just a short question: how is it possible to set the lines bulk
[06:29:23] <darian>	for example
[06:29:32] <darian>	i use <gallery> for 10 pics
[06:29:38] <darian>	i want per line 5 pics
[06:29:43] <darian>	not four
[06:30:11] <Splarka>	the 4 default is hard coded, but you can change it individually
[06:30:31] <darian>	that is that what i know
[06:30:37] <Splarka>	perrow=""
[06:30:43] <darian>	what i not know is HOW and on WHICH FILE?
[06:30:45] <darian>	:-)
[06:30:57] <Splarka>	try  <gallery perRow="5">
[06:31:05] <Splarka>	you want to change the 4 default?
[06:31:10] <darian>	yes
[06:32:48] <Splarka>	looks like /includes/ImageGallery.php
[06:32:51] <MZMcBride>	!defaultsettings
[06:32:51] --mwbot--	For the current version of DefaultSettings.php, see: <http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php?view=markup>.
[06:32:54] <Splarka>		private $mPerRow = 4; // How many images wide should the gallery be?
[06:32:54] <Splarka>		private $mWidths = 120, $mHeights = 120; // How wide/tall each thumbnail should be
[06:33:36] *MZMcBride 	pets mwbot.
[06:33:37] <Splarka>	MZM?
[06:33:38] <darian>	many thanks
[06:34:02] *MZMcBride 	was seeing if DefaultSettings had any variables related to galleries.
[06:34:03] <MZMcBride>	It doesn't.
[06:34:07] <MZMcBride>	It should.
[06:34:08] <Splarka>	ahh k
[06:34:11] <Splarka>	indeed
[06:34:26] <MZMcBride>	Live hacks suck.
[06:34:30] <Splarka>	indeed
[06:34:51] <darian>	lol
[06:35:05] <darian>	i use <Gallery perRow="5" instand off
[06:35:10] <darian>	many thanks :-)
[06:35:14] <darian>	this helps mutch
[06:35:16] <Splarka>	enjoy
[06:35:20] <Splarka>	or leave
[06:35:21] <Splarka>	heh
[06:35:33] <MZMcBride>	MSIE on Mac OS 9 is teh sux0r <-- How professional.
[06:35:45] <Splarka>	the truth hurts
[06:39:58] <MZMcBride>	Password length is a bit absurd...
[06:40:07] <MZMcBride>	Login error: Your password is invalid or too short. It must have at least 1 character and be different from your username.
[06:41:06] <MZMcBride>	Oh, by the way, StringFunctions should be installed on WMF wikis.
[06:41:08] <MZMcBride>	It's handy.
[06:41:21] <MZMcBride>	And the new version fixes all the old problems.
[06:42:08] <Splarka>	"it's handy"
[06:42:24] <Splarka>	"it turns wikicode into a programming language that will exponentially get uglier"
[06:42:32] <Splarka>	MZM: if they do, I hope you like {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{
[06:42:38] <Splarka>	very very much
[06:43:21] <MZMcBride>	[[List of United States Supreme Court cases, volume 95]]. 
[06:43:32] <MZMcBride>	Give me a way to grab 95 out of that and I'll be happy.
[06:43:37] <MZMcBride>	Until then, I want StringFunctions.
[06:46:43] <MZMcBride>	And, your argument is flawed.
[06:46:59] <MZMcBride>	Look at Template:Coord and tell me wikicode isn't already a programming language.
[06:47:04] <Splarka>	you're request is teh sux0r
[06:47:15] <MZMcBride>	And tell me why that's necessarily a bad thing.
[06:47:21] <Splarka>	("your" would be too easy)
[06:47:30] <Splarka>	mIRC
[06:47:44] <Splarka>	no programming language should exist by accident
[06:48:11] <MZMcBride>	As though someone tripped over something and suddenly we had ParserFunctions...
[06:48:11] *Splarka 	shrugs
[06:48:26] <Splarka>	anyway, "no begging" is now official -tech policy, so good luck with string functions without begging:/
[06:49:29] <Splarka>	before Algo wrote StringFunctions he bounced the ideas off of me, and I gave him some return ideas, and I think now we both regret it
[06:50:13] <Splarka>	(and the first {{USERNAME}} on Uncyclopedia, was a race between us, him using php and me using javascript, heh)
[06:50:20] <Splarka>	man, good times
[06:50:39] <Splarka>	I also invented the Internet
[06:50:54] <SQLDb>	Splarka: LOL
[06:51:10] <G>	Splarka: I bet you did :)
[06:51:33] <G>	then again, 10bill-to-1 odds are pretty irresistable :)
[06:51:39] <MZMcBride>	Ok, so first step is changing the /topic in -tech. Second step is convincing Tim to enable the extension.
[06:52:30] <Splarka>	right
[06:52:40] <Splarka>	but be sure to do it without trickery or regret
[06:53:03] <MZMcBride>	Oh, it's probably going to require trickery.
[06:53:06] <Splarka>	no regression... having it enabled and then later disabled by brion would be worse than never having it in the first place
[06:53:28] <Splarka>	(well, or d*mas.. "WTF is this shit using 20% of our resources?"
[06:53:32] <Splarka>	)
[06:53:35] <SQLDb>	....in my experiences, nothing worth doing ever gets done without at least 'some' trickery.
[06:53:49] <G>	best way would be to suggest a change to the topic that would force the no begging to be dropped by the server, then you ask before they realise :)
[06:53:51] <MZMcBride>	So, third step is putting it on the Main Page and elsewhere where it can't suddenly be broken.
[06:54:04] <MZMcBride>	Featured articles, prominent articles, etc.
[06:54:33] <Splarka>	don't worry about performance, performance can take care of itself, and it certainly won't worry about you or your precious main page ^_^
[06:54:43] <SQLDb>	lol
[06:55:26] <G>	MZMcBride: you need tomake a suggestion to make the length of the topic exactly 450 characters + ' | No begging'
[06:55:37] <MZMcBride>	The /topic is unlocked.
[06:55:38] *Splarka 	doesn't mean to pick on MZM, even though that certainly is fun
[06:56:42] <MZMcBride>	My Main Page is visited 136,036,288 times a month. It can take care of itself.
[07:00:57] <Splarka>	"my main page brings all the boys to the yard... and they're like, it needs more vars..."
[07:01:46] *SQLDb 	loses a mouthful of wine
[07:02:15] <MZMcBride>	Hehe.
[07:02:42] <SQLDb>	Splarka: you now owe me one keyboard.
[07:02:48] *Splarka 	checks his pockets
[07:03:18] <JSharp>	heh
[07:03:19] <SQLDb>	AT please, I like they clickeyness
[07:05:31] <Splarka>	http://www.daskeyboard.com/
[07:06:12] <SQLDb>	Splarka: very nice, actually! When can I expect UPS to deliver it? :)
[07:06:56] <Splarka>	keep waiting
[07:07:11] <SQLDb>	heh
[07:07:36] <G>	SQLDb: he's going to use DHL :)
[07:08:03] <SQLDb>	G: Probably :/
[07:08:12] *MZMcBride 	abuses pigeons to deliver his goods.
[07:08:15] <Splarka>	pony express
[07:08:37] <MZMcBride>	Oh, Canadian mail. ;)
[07:08:51] <G>	"Australia: get it from AUSPC Market Online and get express kangaroo delivery."
[07:12:56] *JSharp 	grins
[07:50:44] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) We would like to have a logo set at http://se.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14517  +comment (10mickewiki)
[08:03:20] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) We would like to have a logo set at http://se.wikimedia.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14517  +comment (10jeluf)
[08:09:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) We would like to have a logo set at http://se.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14517  (10mickewiki)
[08:18:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) We would like to have a logo set at http://se.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14517  (10jeluf)
[08:21:21] <CIA-54>	03mkroetzsch * r37079 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
[08:21:21] <CIA-54>	Support "limit=-1" for queries: as opposed to "limit=0", this will not even check if there are an results and
[08:21:21] <CIA-54>	always display a link to show results on the special page
[08:28:42] <CIA-54>	03nicdumz * r37080 10/branches/category-redirects/includes/ (Article.php LinksUpdate.php): 
[08:28:42] <CIA-54>	We need to create Category entries before the categorylinks inserts, because we need cat_id.
[08:28:42] <CIA-54>	Moving category inserts from Article::updateCategoryCounts to LinksUpdate::insertNewCategories.
[08:28:42] <CIA-54>	Seems stable and working, with both possible values for $wgUseDumbLinkUpdate
[08:29:49] <CIA-54>	03mkroetzsch * r37081 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/AskSpecial/SMW_SpecialAsk.php: Show suitable message if no results are found
[08:32:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Respect wgArticlePath and wgActionPaths options for all URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13348  (10rowan)
[08:43:31] <_wooz>	lo
[08:49:40] <fx_>	hi, just updated to 1.12, can't find the url rewrite in localsettings anymore... can someone tell me how it is done now ?
[08:53:28] <Nikerabbit>	do you have the actual rewrite rules in-place?
[09:00:58] <fx_>	I have my old htaccess with my rules... 
[09:01:41] <fx_>	:) found the manual http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL
[09:02:39] <fx_>	Thanks Nikerabbit I found that it wasn't by default in locasettings, but that I can put it myself GREAT !!
[09:39:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add logs entries to user contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3716  (10danny.b)
[09:44:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) We would like to have a logo set at http://se.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14517  (10mickewiki)
[09:54:33] <CIA-54>	03dale * r37082 10/branches/MetavidWiki-exp/MetavidWiki/ (5 files in 3 dirs): updated unified search display
[09:55:52] <G>	heh, now I'm getting used to the way you goes do thinks, my code is starting to work first go :)
[11:17:29] <linnuxxy>	I am importing xml dump into wikimedia, using importDump.php... but it is going very slow... 0.5 page per sec....is that normal? 
[11:17:46] <MinuteElectron>	With importDump.php, possibly.
[11:17:54] <MinuteElectron>	It could be due to your server though.
[11:18:02] <MinuteElectron>	I suggest trying mwdumper, which is much faster.
[11:18:08] <MinuteElectron>	!mwdumper | linnuxxy 
[11:18:08] --mwbot--	linnuxxy: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwdumper
[11:19:04] <CIA-54>	03catrope * r37083 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ (ApiQueryBase.php ApiQueryInfo.php ApiQueryRevisions.php): Fix regression from r37046: tokens should not be supplied when in JSON callback mode. Also remove ApiQueryBase::getTokenFlag() which is now obsolete.
[11:19:36] <linnuxxy>	i've tried it... but it didnot worked
[11:20:36] <domas>	linnuxxy: which dump are you importing?
[11:20:50] <linnuxxy>	MinuteElectron^
[11:21:09] <linnuxxy>	domas: arwiki-20080616-pages-articles.xml.bz2
[11:21:17] <domas>	hehe, it is tiny!
[11:21:26] <domas>	anyway, turn off transaction log flushing
[11:21:35] <domas>	if you're importing into innodb
[11:21:41] <domas>	or you can actually start up mysql without innodb
[11:21:45] <domas>	--skip-innodb
[11:21:51] <domas>	then all tables will be created as myisam
[11:21:57] <domas>	and in theory can work faster, on weak hardware
[11:22:18] <linnuxxy>	domas... thank you
[11:22:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wiki for Wikimedia Russia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14731  (10maxsem.wiki)
[11:28:10] <siebrand>	Duesentrieb: about r37076. afaik special page names are case insensitive (for now?). Are you sure the second element for English has a purpose?
[11:28:30] <Duesentrieb>	siebrand: no i don't :)
[11:28:49] <Duesentrieb>	i fired that off shortly before goping to bed last night, because nikerabbit begged for aliases :)
[11:28:59] <siebrand>	Duesentrieb: OK. Now let's find someone who knows :)
[11:29:21] <Duesentrieb>	it'S probably pointless. it probably doesn't hurt either
[11:29:52] <siebrand>	Duesentrieb: may be setting a wrong example, if anything. So I'd rather get clarity about it.
[11:30:16] <siebrand>	Nikerabbit: ping? See above.
[11:31:31] <CIA-54>	03siebrand * r37084 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/aliases.txt: Add support for CategoryTree special page aliases
[11:35:18] <CIA-54>	03siebrand * r37085 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/aliases.txt: Add correct file name for CategoryTree special page aliases
[11:35:43] <CIA-54>	03daniel * r37086 10/branches/daniel/: making mysqlf a cosy place for branches
[11:37:20] <CIA-54>	03ialex * r37087 10/trunk/phase3/ (docs/hooks.txt maintenance/findhooks.php): 
[11:37:20] <CIA-54>	* Added $IP in dirs for OpenSearchUrls hook
[11:37:20] <CIA-54>	* getHooksFromDoc() now returns an unique array
[11:37:20] <CIA-54>	* 80 chars per line in docs/hooks.txt
[11:38:16] <Nikerabbit>	siebrand: is it that hard to test? :D
[11:38:50] <siebrand>	Nikerabbit: probably not. But my n00b testing cannot be trusted :)
[11:39:42] <siebrand>	Duesentrieb: I think here is our answer: http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:CategoryTREE
[11:40:56] <CIA-54>	03rotem * r37088 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Update for he.
[11:43:03] <CIA-54>	03siebrand * r37089 10/trunk/extensions/CategoryTree/CategoryTreePage.i18n.alias.php: Remove alternative name with only capitalisation differences. Not needed. (Special:CategoryTREE works as well as Special:CaTeGoRyTrEe)
[11:43:47] <CIA-54>	03daniel * r37090 10/branches/daniel/playground/: branching playground
[11:44:24] <Duesentrieb>	siebrand: thanks
[11:52:23] <CIA-54>	03rotem * r37091 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Various fixes.
[11:59:09] <ZeiP>	Is it possible to assign a Reply-To header for emails sent by MediaWiki?
[12:00:12] <CIA-54>	03ialex * r37092 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DifferenceEngine.php: Removed "See diff.doc", it seems that this file never existed
[12:00:14] <G>	whats the voodoo to suppress a special page appearing on the Special:Specialpages list?  Like Special:MovePage
[12:01:02] <ialex>	G: suppress it totally, or just from Special:Specialpages?
[12:01:52] <Splarka>	well, some special pages are kinda useless to even have without parameters
[12:02:01] <Splarka>	like Special:InvalidateEmail 
[12:02:11] <Splarka>	so they is just not listified
[12:02:14] <G>	Splarka: exactly, Special:MovePage is the one I'm thinking of as an example
[12:02:38] <G>	So what would I do to make sure my Special page isn't listified
[12:03:19] <JSharp>	okay, here's an interesting question. I have a XML database dump which I've converted to SQL with mwdumper and imported and a tarball of the images directory. I've extracted the images directory to the appropriate place, and ran the rebuildall maintenance script, but mediawiki still isn't detecting my images. Any suggestions?
[12:03:28] <ialex>	G: use UnlistedSpecialPage
[12:04:04] <G>	ialex: ahh thankyou!
[12:06:28] <Splarka>	J: are the [[Image]] tags rendering as empty <img> ?
[12:06:54] <JSharp>	nope
[12:07:10] <JSharp>	and when I visit the image description page, there's a 'no image by this name exists' message
[12:07:18] <JSharp>	but the image page content is there from the import
[12:13:15] <CIA-54>	03siebrand * r37093 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add support for localisation of RegexFunctions descriptionmsg
[12:17:43] <CIA-54>	03ialex * r37094 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 3 dirs): svn:eol-style native
[12:18:16] <Duesentrieb>	hm... how does the UserMail class handle the From header for user mail?
[12:18:50] <Duesentrieb>	it does use the sender's mail address there, right? won't the MTA reject that if it's not a known local address?
[12:18:57] <Duesentrieb>	or is there some envelope-magic going on?
[12:19:21] <ialex>	it is a MailAddress instance, iirc
[12:20:20] <Duesentrieb>	that doesn't answer how it interacts with the MTA :)
[12:20:24] <Duesentrieb>	anyway, i found $wgUserEmailUseReplyTo
[12:20:34] <Duesentrieb>	i guess i should use that for ContactPage, too
[12:23:30] <JSharp>	hmm, I may need to figure out how to rebuild the image table
[12:28:06] <Duesentrieb>	JSharp: refreshImages.php
[12:28:13] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Allow Meta Checkusers to grant & revoke IPBlockExempt status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14733 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (herbythyme)
[12:28:31] <JSharp>	Duesentrieb, right, problem is, it doesn't seem to detect that anything needs updating
[12:28:36] <Duesentrieb>	JSharp: refreshImages.php --missing, actually
[12:28:51] <JSharp>	because the Image pages exist already I think
[12:28:52] <Duesentrieb>	JSharp: the --missing bit is important. then it'll look for files
[12:29:38] <JSharp>	hmm
[12:29:42] <JSharp>	no output
[12:30:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Problem with project talk namespace in Hungarian Wikinews, Wikisource and Wikiquote - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14599  (10bdamokos)
[12:33:19] <Duesentrieb>	JSharp: not sure if it gives any output. check if it did something. otherwise, check if it's looking at the right directory, using the right storage scheme (hashed, probably)
[12:33:49] <JSharp>	right
[12:37:08] <JSharp>	okay, it's running now :)
[12:44:03] <CIA-54>	03siebrand * r37095 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Update message 'undelete'. Previous text was incorrect as pointed out by AlexSm.
[12:44:15] <JSharp>	Duesentrieb, thanks :)
[12:45:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow Meta Checkusers to grant & revoke IPBlockExempt status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14733  +comment (10mike.lifeguard)
[12:48:26] <Duesentrieb>	np
[12:56:02] <bit`>	Hi, how do i find out the heading level a template is used under
[12:56:08] <bit`>	?
[13:07:22] <Pedric>	hi. Is it possible to use templates in MediaWiki:<skinname>.css ?
[13:08:12] <NicDumZ>	Strict Standards:  Creating default object from empty value in .../includes/Category.php on line 137
[13:08:32] <NicDumZ>	I don't really understand that warning :)
[13:09:15] <NicDumZ>	the underlying question being : I am responsible for introducing it
[13:10:24] <NicDumZ>	mm... got it
[13:11:17] <CIA-54>	03daniel * r37096 10/branches/daniel/playground/ (includes/SkinTemplate.php skins/MonoBook.php): first go at revamped portlet code
[13:12:22] <MinuteElectron>	Pedric: no
[13:13:18] <Pedric>	thanks
[13:13:44] <CIA-54>	03nicdumz * r37097 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Category.php: moving $cat = new self() before $cat->mTitle = $title ; PHP was unhappy.
[13:13:56] <CIA-54>	03rotem * r37098 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update and fixes.
[13:14:47] <Splarka>	Pedric: you could use @import though
[13:16:14] <Splarka>	@import "/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Whatever.css&usemsgcache=yes&action=raw&ctype=text/css&smaxage=2678400"; 
[13:16:16] <Splarka>	for example
[13:16:35] <Splarka>	(as long as it preceeds any other definitions in skinname.css)
[13:16:45] <CIA-54>	03nicdumz * r37099 10/branches/category-redirects/includes/ (7 files in 2 dirs): 
[13:16:45] <CIA-54>	* SQL fixes for Special pages
[13:16:45] <CIA-54>	* Merging r37097 from trunk
[13:17:22] <Pedric>	Splarka, I need parameters
[13:20:08] <Splarka>	ahh, then no...
[13:20:13] <Pedric>	is there a way to output the GET parameters on such a page?
[13:20:43] <Splarka>	how do yuo mean?
[13:20:46] <Splarka>	^you
[13:20:50] *Splarka 	should sleep, but bah
[13:21:44] <Pedric>	like @import "/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Whatever.css&argument=1";
[13:21:44] <Pedric>	and then on MediaWiki:Whatever.css output the value of argument
[13:22:06] <Splarka>	it'd have to be done server side, or with javascript
[13:22:09] <Pedric>	like dynamic css
[13:22:45] <Pedric>	on the server side, yes
[13:22:56] <Splarka>	with javascript you could just appendCSS() as you wanted, but it would rely on JS being enabled in that browser
[13:23:37] <Splarka>	and server side... well you can @import any URL that returns content type of text/css, you'd just have to make something that did that
[13:25:04] <Subfader>	Hi. Is it possible to completely disable / remove a namespace? I have completely unused namespaces like user talk, file talk, mediawiki talk... with disabling it should also remove the discussion link on pages in that namespace
[13:25:47] <Pedric>	Splarka: will try that, thanks
[13:26:45] <Splarka>	gl
[13:31:12] <Subfader>	i asked that a few times before and never got an answer :/
[13:31:14] <NicDumZ>	mmm... some API queries fail due to my poor schema change. Can I get more verbose query errors reports ?
[13:32:22] <G>	Okay, one last question (I think) whats the best way to work out what the localised title of my Special Page is going to be (so I can hook in where I need to and link to it)
[13:35:41] <ialex>	NicDumZ: maybe $wgShowSQLErrors = true;
[13:36:26] <NicDumZ>	ialex, that did it, thanks ;)
[13:41:53] <CIA-54>	03nicdumz * r37100 10/branches/category-redirects/includes/api/ (ApiQueryCategories.php ApiQueryCategoryMembers.php): 
[13:41:53] <CIA-54>	API bugfixes :
[13:41:53] <CIA-54>	* renaming column & index to their new values
[13:41:53] <CIA-54>	* fixing that table order for USE INDEX
[13:45:19] <G>	actually, I got it
[13:53:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New API to give latest dump file release - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14584  +comment (10hippytrail)
[14:03:12] <CIA-54>	03siebrand * r37101 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Custom buttons for Ukranian
[14:05:15] <CIA-54>	03siebrand * r37102 10/trunk/phase3/skins/common/images/uk/LICENSE: svn:eol-style
[14:06:14] <ialex>	siebrand: i was about to commit what you did in 37102 ^^
[14:06:47] <CIA-54>	03siebrand * r37103 10/trunk/phase3/skins/common/images/uk/ (LICENSE button_internal_link.png button_link.png): Fix incorrect link button name
[14:07:00] <siebrand>	ialex: well, I needed 3 commits to get it right. :)
[14:07:14] <ialex>	siebrand: hehe :)
[14:07:22] <siebrand>	ialex: works now, though: http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Support&action=edit&section=1&uselang=uk
[14:08:29] <ialex>	have to go now
[14:08:37] <CIA-54>	03mkroetzsch * r37104 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (4 files): 
[14:08:37] <CIA-54>	Change in data storage during parsing: static data container initisliased earlier (so it can be used in parser
[14:08:37] <CIA-54>	functions too), mechanism to prevent mutiple inits, mechanism to prevent mutliple factboxes to be printed (does
[14:08:37] <CIA-54>	not fix the issue with <gallery> being treated like a standalone pages).
[14:18:52] <CIA-54>	03mkroetzsch * r37105 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_Factbox.php: declare only visible Factboxes as printed (still avoids Factbox duplicates, but behaves better with gallery)
[14:22:53] <CIA-54>	03nikerabbit * r37106 10/trunk/extensions/cldr/ (51 files): 
[14:22:53] <CIA-54>	* Updates to CLDR 1.6.0
[14:22:53] <CIA-54>	* Bug fix to rebuild script
[14:32:32] <Subfader>	Is it possible to completely disable / remove a namespace? I have completely unused namespaces like user talk, file talk, mediawiki talk... with disabling it should also remove the discussion link on pages in that namespace
[14:40:30] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Pipe trick parsing fails for wikilinks with both a prefix and anchor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14734 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (etdp01)
[14:40:48] <G>	Subfader: from memory it won't but hold on, let me get a link for you
[14:41:15] <CIA-54>	03shinjiman * r37107 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Old/Late Time Chinese
[14:43:18] <G>	Subfader: actually, looks like you can't through any reasonable means
[14:43:59] <Subfader>	that's too bad. theershould be a $wg for that
[14:44:06] <G>	Subfader: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Namespace_manager#Deleting_namespaces would be a good summary on why
[14:44:09] <CIA-54>	03demon * r37108 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
[14:44:09] <CIA-54>	Re-implement "Email user footer,"
[14:44:09] <CIA-54>	* Now grabs message from global language instead of user's UI lang.
[14:44:09] <CIA-54>	* Added a separator between msg and footer
[14:44:09] <CIA-54>	* Shortened message
[14:44:11] <CIA-54>	* Removed a bunch of useless params from the previous incarnation of this.
[14:44:32] <^demon>	Subfader: I did it a long time ago. It's a _very_ hacky thing to do.
[14:45:45] <Subfader>	ok it would be enough for me to hide the discssion links on pages of the according ns and to hide them from the standard output on the search page
[14:47:09] <^demon>	I don't have the code anymore :(
[14:47:41] <G>	I'm sure disabling User_Talk would break the code around new message notifications
[14:48:12] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Email user: disclaimer/footnote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14558  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[14:48:38] <^demon>	My department's wiki wanted to remove talk namespaces, period...you can imagine how fun that was.
[14:49:47] <G>	wow, thats a bit mad, maybe we should just have a '$wgHideTalk' or something
[14:50:26] <G>	if someone tries to access a talk namespace they get an error and thrown elsewhere
[14:50:41] <G>	and that'd also drop the Talk tab out of Monobook etc
[14:55:14] <Subfader>	well simply hiding all the unused discussing pages won't disable them in function with other code
[14:55:37] <^demon>	I did implement a $wgHideTalk ;-)
[14:55:39] <domas>	namespaces in general should be far more dynamic
[14:55:46] <^demon>	Like I said, I no longer have the code.
[14:55:57] <Subfader>	yep
[14:58:41] <G>	domas: hey, since you appear to be one of the main guys, what would I have to do to get commit access, I would like to (in particular right now) add an extra hook or two, and I've been working on a extension as a solution to bug 13937 - correct own edit summaries (although it needs a little bit of a cleanup)
[15:00:01] <CIA-54>	03mkroetzsch * r37109 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_String.php: +minor code reuse
[15:01:16] <domas>	commit access = brion or tim
[15:01:26] <domas>	though the feature is a bit roblematic
[15:01:29] <domas>	problematic
[15:01:37] <domas>	see, if one can 'correct', they can 'vandalize' too :)
[15:01:53] <domas>	so you have to have audit trail of that too, etc
[15:02:10] <G>	domas: yeah, thats thing I've still to implement
[15:02:51] <G>	(i.e. logging to RecentChanges/Special:Log)
[15:03:07] <G>	The whole thing was mainly to get familar with the MW code though
[15:03:11] <^demon>	G: Keep in mind, things like spam blacklist now check edit summaries. A changed edit summary should be subject to the same requirement of passing the spam blacklist check as well.
[15:03:45] <G>	^demon: ohhh, I hadn't noticed that, I'll check that out too
[15:03:55] <G>	that'd be a pretty nasty regression :)
[15:04:10] <^demon>	G: I added the check a few weeks ago.
[15:06:34] <G>	^demon: which class is it implemented in?
[15:06:49] <G>	or is it just a hook?
[15:07:03] <^demon>	I had to tweak the hook in EditPage to pass the edit summary, then the spam blacklist to check it.
[15:08:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Correcting edit summaries (if own, last, & recent) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13937  +comment (10dev)
[15:08:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Non-conformant XHTML in EasyTimeline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14727  (10Platonides)
[15:09:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Non-conformant XHTML in EasyTimeline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14727  (10Platonides)
[15:10:27] <^demon>	G: See r36439, that's where I added it. Also: if you get a functional extension that doesn't suffer from regressions in current abilities, I'll be willing to commit it (I was toying with this idea a few weeks back, it just wasn't a high-priority)
[15:11:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Non-conformant XHTML in EasyTimeline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14727   +need-review (10Platonides)
[15:11:17] <G>	^demon: yeah, I'd like to work on the core too, I've been working on the Fedora Project wiki (soon to become wikis)
[15:12:16] <CIA-54>	03mkroetzsch * r37110 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_Bool.php: fixed custom display for Type:Boolean
[15:13:06] <^demon>	Then do like Domas said and bug Brion or Tim :-P
[15:13:51] <G>	^demon: for that, I guess I'd have to pass the complete copy of that revision to the hook right?
[15:14:12] *^demon 	shrugs
[15:14:39] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) "logged" user rights, when configured for anonymous use, are not logged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14735 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (charlottethewebb)
[15:14:50] <^demon>	I was looking at adding a method to the spam blacklist that would check a string against the blacklist (instead of a whole revision, as it does now). Would be useful for things like log filtering, etc (and like your edit summary editor)
[15:15:34] <G>	hmmm, maybe we need another hook, 'SummaryFilter' maybe
[15:15:52] <CIA-54>	03nikerabbit * r37111 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialEmailuser.php: * Allow grammar
[15:15:57] <G>	accepts a string, returns an error if it needs too
[15:16:26] <^demon>	The only place edit summaries are done is in EditPage, so it's being passed with EditFilter/EditFilterMerged.
[15:16:40] <^demon>	Your extension would need a hook for SpamBlacklist to use :-)
[15:17:20] <^demon>	Or implement the check in your extension (if SpamBlacklist is installed, of course)
[15:18:01] <G>	right, but what I'm saying is that if there was a hook in MW called SummaryFilter or LogFilter that 'reasons' and 'summaries' (or to put it bluntly a string) then SpamBlackList could just run on the strings itself
[15:18:21] <^demon>	I see, I see.
[15:18:46] <^demon>	Anyway, good luck on the extension :-)
[15:19:23] <CIA-54>	03mkroetzsch * r37112 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_String.php: Fixed typo
[15:20:25] <G>	^demon|away: I'll look at doing that hook when I wake up
[15:20:39] <G>	^demon|away: and thanks
[15:26:47] <G>	domas: thanks btw, as one last question would it be better to log as "x changed the edit summary for revision y to: z" in a 'summary log', or some other way?
[15:27:17] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) [[lowercase namespace:lowecase pagename]] generate red links ( at Russian Wikipedia) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5025  +comment (10maxsem.wiki)
[15:27:47] <|newbie|>	привет всем, здесь кто-нибудь по русски горит?
[15:28:46] <|newbie|>	hi for all!
[15:29:06] <CharlotteWebb>	o.O
[15:29:08] <Nikerabbit>	|newbie|: maybe, but I don't see anyone online right now
[15:29:26] <G>	domas: or would it be just better to make the old revision as deleted and re-add it with the new summary
[15:31:33] <|newbie|>	как удалять правки (всмысле не откатывать страницу, а вообще удалить правку - чтобы даже при нажатии кнопи "история" правки не было видно)???
[15:32:57] <andrew22>	Is it possible to pass parameters into the url which can than be interpreted by that page?
[15:33:16] <andrew22>	ex: /Category:DNS?Format=Engineering
[15:33:29] <andrew22>	or /Category:DNS?Format=Deployed
[15:33:30] <andrew22>	etc
[15:37:16] <Reedy>	ofc, certainly parameters are excepted
[15:38:05] <Reedy>	*accepted
[15:38:14] <CIA-54>	03nicdumz * r37113 10/branches/category-redirects/includes/LinksUpdate.php: Now propagating cat_redir into cl_target in LinksUpdate. (but no mechanism is modifying cat_redir yet)
[15:39:22] <CIA-54>	03shinjiman * r37114 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/MessageCache.php languages/LanguageConverter.php): 
[15:39:22] <CIA-54>	* Re-implement the message caches for r35821
[15:39:22] <CIA-54>	* Tweaked the message fetching on the MediaWiki:Conversiontable/xx-xx by changes of the message caching
[15:39:22] <CIA-54>	 patch by Nikerabbit
[15:39:57] <andrew22>	Reedy...how can i do this
[15:40:03] <andrew22>	do i have to create my own extension
[15:40:08] <Reedy>	Depends what your wanting to pass it
[15:40:28] <andrew22>	so for example, i have a DNS category
[15:40:44] <andrew22>	i want to be able to use dpl to format it based on the paramter
[15:41:24] <andrew22>	so...if i do /Category:DNS?Format=Engineering ...DPL pulls only engineering stuff
[15:41:36] <andrew22>	if i do /Category:DNS?Format=Deploy ...DPL pulls only deployed stuff
[15:41:37] <andrew22>	etc
[15:42:00] <andrew22>	so...can i edit if i do /Category:DNS and throw in php code?
[15:42:25] <CIA-54>	03nikerabbit * r37115 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (README Translate.php scripts/fuzzy.php): * 2008-07-05:1 fuzzy.php was ignoring the namespace
[15:44:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wiki for Wikimedia Russia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14731   +shell (10maxsem.wiki)
[15:44:42] <andrew22>	Reedy...any ideas?
[15:56:26] <andrew22>	Anyone....Is it possible to pass parameters into the url which can than be interpreted by that page?
[16:12:40] <CharlotteWebb>	you would need to add code somewhere so that the parameters mean something
[16:13:16] <CharlotteWebb>	if these are page-specific javascript might be a better option
[16:13:20] <CharlotteWebb>	just a thought
[16:15:56] <NicDumZ>	grmbl.... handling cat. counts with category redirects is going to be a pain
[16:18:07] <StarDustLilly>	Hi!
[16:22:05] <CharlotteWebb>	tell to RussBot to run more frequently
[16:25:03] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Mass deletion of images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8527  +comment (10mike.lifeguard)
[16:32:35] <CIA-54>	03mkroetzsch * r37116 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Separate datavalue object for handling concept descriptions, support for short docu per concept
[16:36:48] <Dantman>	:/ Well this is just great for development... The local server here is broken, and the local server at home works, however the computer runs so slow you can't do anything with it at all
[16:37:39] <StarDustLilly>	Hi i'm using DPL  and i'm getting this error msg - %DPL-1.6.9-WARNING: Unknown parameter '$0' is ignored. Help: available parameters: imagecontainer. - Do you know what it means?
[16:55:53] <StarDustLilly>	Does anyone know how i can display the images on all pages in a given category using DPL
[16:58:44] <CIA-54>	03mkroetzsch * r37117 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (SMW_QP_RSSlink.php SMW_QP_iCalendar.php): trim parameters, avoid inital spaces
[16:59:56] <CIA-54>	03mkroetzsch * r37118 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/AskSpecial/SMW_SpecialAsk.php: 
[16:59:56] <CIA-54>	if RSS or iCal queries use concepts, but give no description or title, take the data from the concept by default
[16:59:56] <CIA-54>	(this allows for much shorter RSS/iCalendar URLs, esp. in non-ASCII alphabets)
[17:00:14] <CIA-54>	03greg * r37119 10/trunk/phase3/includes/db/DatabasePostgres.php: Handle multi-insert ignores properly, as pointed out on wikitech.
[17:06:12] <CIA-54>	03mkroetzsch * r37120 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/storage/SMW_SQLStore2_Queries.php: undefinde concepts should have no results, fixed
[17:25:03] <Juikn>	Hi, I am a newbie mediawiki user who has a few questions about using bullet lists
[17:25:36] <Mike_lifeguard>	Juikn: just ask; don't ask to ask :)
[17:26:25] <Juikn>	first of all, is there any extension or plugins that increase the functionality of bullet lists?  i need to use a lot of them, and I really don't like the way they look with the square little dots
[17:27:08] <Mike_lifeguard>	not that I know of, but the image should be customizable somehow
[17:27:17] <Juikn>	another question: is there a way to edit the monobook skin so that, instead of using the little squares for each level of the bullet, it uses different bullets for each level like the other skins?
[17:27:26] <Juikn>	yes, i guess that's what I'm talking about
[17:27:52] <Mike_lifeguard>	sure - just edit MediaWiki:Monobook.css I think
[17:29:01] <Juikn>	is that the same as monobook.php?
[17:29:04] <MinuteElectron>	no
[17:29:12] <MinuteElectron>	edit the page MediaWiki:Monobook.css on your wiki
[17:29:15] <Juikn>	sorry, i am totally new to this
[17:29:20] <MinuteElectron>	type it into the search box then press go
[17:30:22] <Juikn>	ok, so i located the file, but it looks totally blank
[17:30:32] <Dantman>	You'll need to learn CSS
[17:30:41] <Juikn>	oh
[17:30:57] <Dantman>	MinuteElectron: Since you're the one person here, want to give me a sugestion for syntax to use in the TransWiki extension?
[17:31:10] <Juikn>	all I want to do is change the bullet list :(
[17:31:43] <CIA-54>	03mkroetzsch * r37121 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (SMW_DV_Concept.php storage/SMW_SQLStore2_Queries.php): use non XML-escaped query string for executing concepts
[17:32:28] <MinuteElectron>	Dantman: I'm not sure what does that extension do?
[17:32:59] <Schroeder>	Juikn: that's what SHE said...
[17:33:24] <Dantman>	MinuteElectron: Transcludes wikitext from one wiki to another... http://wiki-tools.com/wiki/TransWiki
[17:33:50] <Dantman>	Basically, I've debated between either <transwiki name=wikiname page=pagename />
[17:33:52] <Dantman>	And
[17:33:53] <MinuteElectron>	Can't you just use {{interwikiprefix:Templatename}} like it should be done?
[17:34:07] <Dantman>	The point isn't template type transclusions
[17:34:20] <MinuteElectron>	oh?
[17:34:34] <Dantman>	Yes, there are two functionalities in the extension
[17:35:28] <Dantman>	A tag which transcludes WikiText (Just Wiki-Text, it has no concept of passing parameters), and inserts that into the page before anything at all is parsed... And the other is a Commons type system for Templates
[17:36:09] <Dantman>	The idea is not to use {{wikiname:Templatename}}, it's to transclude say Anime:Template:Stub, into your local Template:Stub, and use {{Stub}} in the wiki
[17:36:47] <MinuteElectron>	i see
[17:37:14] <Dantman>	It's just I've been debating between a <transwiki /> tag, or a #transwiki tag
[17:37:25] <MinuteElectron>	would a parser function eb suitable, it would be nice to be able to use {{{1}}} etc.
[17:37:35] <MinuteElectron>	which is annoying with parser tags
[17:37:35] <Dantman>	No
[17:37:45] <MinuteElectron>	i mean
[17:38:02] <MinuteElectron>	{{#transwiki:{{{1}}}|Page}}
[17:38:05] <Dantman>	Keep in mind that this is done before anything else is done to the page
[17:38:15] <MinuteElectron>	right
[17:38:17] <MinuteElectron>	ok
[17:38:22] <Dantman>	To the point that even <nowiki/> won't work on the tag, which is why I need a unique syntax
[17:38:46] <MinuteElectron>	well
[17:38:59] <Dantman>	The point is to make it look, to most of the system, as if it were part of the wiki, even though it's located elsewhere
[17:39:05] <MinuteElectron>	i'm not too sure then, i'd have though a parser tag would be good enough
[17:40:30] <Dantman>	Maybe I actually will go XML like... Now that I think about it, the parser has a function for that
[17:40:52] <Dantman>	:/ Now if I didn't get bugs the last time I used it
[17:46:45] <Juikn>	what is the default username for the admin account when you first install mediawiki/
[17:46:50] <Juikn>	i forget!
[17:47:58] <Juikn>	I've tried Wikisyop but that's not recognized as an account on my system
[17:48:25] <Waldir>	I am seeing two big blck boxes when scrolling through this diff: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Metapub&diff=0&oldid=1071772
[17:48:25] <flyingparchment>	you're meant to change that, but if you don't for some reason, it's WikiSysop
[17:48:40] <Waldir>	I tried both logged in and logged off, in FF3, WinXP
[17:48:57] <Juikn>	hmmm.. I must have changed it then
[17:49:12] <Juikn>	is there a way to go into my database and find what I changed it to?
[17:49:15] <Waldir>	do you think it is a bug?
[17:49:18] <OverlordQ>	Waldir: yea weird bug in firefox, I get it occasionally
[17:50:06] <Juikn>	nevermind, found it :)
[17:53:08] <Waldir>	OverlordQ, is is something worth submitting a bug report for (either to mediawiki or FF's bugzilla)?
[17:56:17] <MZMcBride>	Skizzerz: I tried installing RegexFunctions last night and it threw errors at me. 
[17:56:56] <darkcode>	report it to FF's bugzilla of course
[17:59:35] <StarDustLilly>	Does anyone here know how to create a nested query using DPL
[18:01:43] <Dantman>	^_^ Yay I fixed the CodeTest bug
[18:01:50] <Skizzerz>	MZMcBride: really? like what?
[18:02:54] <Dantman>	Oh, btw... For anyone working on parserfunctions... This little extension of mine is quite useful: http://svn.nadir-point.com/viewvc/mediawiki-extensions/trunk/CodeTest/
[18:03:18] <Dantman>	http://dev.wiki-tools.com/edit/WikiCode
[18:04:08] <Dantman>	Effectively, it's like having a Test suite... You just tell it what to test, and it outputs the code and output side by side, also supporting somethign you say to expect
[18:04:18] <MZMcBride>	<b>Warning</b>:  preg_split() [<a href='function.preg-split'>function.preg-split</a>]: Delimiter must not be alphanumeric or backslash in <b>/homepages/25/d132930125/htdocs/pruebita_com/p/extensions/RegexFunctions/RegexFunctions.php</b>
[18:04:28] <MZMcBride>	Skizzerz: ^^
[18:04:54] <Dantman>	Heh, bug
[18:05:00] <Skizzerz>	did you forget to put // around the regex?
[18:05:13] <Dantman>	Eeek
[18:05:15] <MZMcBride>	Does that matter? :)
[18:05:28] <Dantman>	Btw, I do have an alternative extension if you
[18:05:30] <Skizzerz>	it shouldn't, but it made rmatch fail if it wasn't there
[18:05:31] <Dantman>	're only doing replaes
[18:05:36] <Dantman>	It does
[18:05:47] <Dantman>	It's a preg replace for crying out loud
[18:05:50] <Skizzerz>	I was planning on fixing that today
[18:05:57] <Skizzerz>	Dantman: preg_split
[18:05:58] <MZMcBride>	Skizzerz: That was with rsplit, I think.
[18:06:05] <Dantman>	O_O
[18:06:14] <MZMcBride>	rmatch gives the error: preg_match() expects parameter 5 to be long, string given in
[18:06:25] <Dantman>	http://wiki-tools.com/wiki/ReplaceSet
[18:06:37] <Dantman>	Handles both strings and regexes
[18:07:11] <Dantman>	{{#replaceset:{{{1|}}}|Foo=Bar|/Go+gle/=Microsoft}}
[18:08:10] <Dantman>	;) And it handles errors and security issues better: http://dev.wiki-tools.com/wiki/ReplaceSet
[18:08:30] <Skizzerz>	MZMcBride: yeah, I was hurried in getting that out... it should hopefully take about 10 mins to fix all of said bugs
[18:08:40] <Dantman>	Heh... Ignore the "All your template are belong to us!"... That's from TransWiki's test
[18:08:41] <MZMcBride>	K. :)
[18:08:57] <MZMcBride>	I was just playing with it. Not doing actual work. ;)
[18:10:25] <Dantman>	:/ Arg
[18:14:51] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Global sessions not working across domains - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14736 normal; normal; MediaWiki: User login/settings; (MZMcBride)
[18:22:52] <Skizzerz>	Dantman: does your function use preg_replace?
[18:22:57] <Dantman>	Yes
[18:23:15] <Skizzerz>	do you have any protection against the 'e' modfier?
[18:23:36] <Dantman>	http://dev.wiki-tools.com/wiki/ReplaceSet
[18:23:40] <Dantman>	^_^ Just take a look
[18:23:54] <Skizzerz>	so yes :P
[18:24:38] <Dantman>	Making it work with = is on a ToDo
[18:25:07] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Allow the autoconfirmed timer to run from the first edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14737 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (mike.lifeguard)
[18:27:25] <Dantman>	I guess I have an escape issue or two at the momen
[18:27:43] <Dantman>	Making sure that the perfect number of \\'s shows up is tricky
[18:30:11] <Nikerabbit>	:o
[18:30:29] <Dantman>	^_^ heh, I reached my own limit doing testing: http://dev.wiki-tools.com/wiki/ReplaceSet
[18:30:38] <Nikerabbit>	"\\" -> \ '\\' ->  \
[18:31:39] <MZMcBride>	Is there a way to select <label>s by their for="" using CSS?
[18:32:07] <Nikerabbit>	probably
[18:32:20] <peder>	label[for="foo"]
[18:32:29] <Nikerabbit>	E[foo="warning"]Matches any E element whose "foo" attribute value is exactly equal to "warning". 
[18:32:34] <MZMcBride>	Ahh.
[18:33:04] <peder>	^= for staring with, $= for ending, *= for substring
[18:33:21] <MZMcBride>	Works. Thanks. :)
[18:33:25] <peder>	|= for starting with word in - separated list
[18:33:30] <OverlordQ>	ew
[18:33:34] <Nikerabbit>	there is no such things in css2?
[18:33:36] <OverlordQ>	 '\\' != \ :P
[18:33:57] <Nikerabbit>	this it not perl :o
[18:34:13] <peder>	~= for word in space-separated list
[18:34:19] <Dantman>	^_^ Don't you hate backslashes.... Turns out my extension actually was working perfectly, heh
[18:34:31] <Dantman>	I was just reading the insanely complex regex wrong
[18:35:33] <Nikerabbit>	Dantman: the syntax is so... even the x (verbose mode) doesn't help to make them readable :o
[18:35:42] <Dantman>	heh
[18:37:47] <Dantman>	The only missing feature is allowing = to work
[18:38:06] <CIA-54>	03mkroetzsch * r37122 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (SMW_QP_List.php SMW_QueryPrinter.php): 
[18:38:06] <CIA-54>	improved layout (use space before the default further result link, user given links may not want the space
[18:38:06] <CIA-54>	though)
[18:39:18] <Dantman>	^_^ Now if you want to be confused... The easiest use syntax for plain strings... Is to make Foo\=Bar stand for Foo=Bar, but Foo\-Bar stands for Foo\-Bar ;) heh
[18:40:21] <Dantman>	Foo\\Bar will probably be Foo\\Bar, but Foo\\=Bar will be Foo\ and that'll be replaced with Bar
[18:40:49] <Dantman>	Though, = with regex is probably cleanest
[18:41:33] <Dantman>	/=/=Foo... Quite simply, if the regex has not been terminated, then a = does not end the pattern
[18:42:27] <CIA-54>	03mkroetzsch * r37123 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/storage/SMW_QueryResult.php: belongs to previous commit (space for further results link)
[18:43:19] <CIA-54>	03mkroetzsch * r37124 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_GlobalFunctions.php: 
[18:43:19] <CIA-54>	Give preview directly on concept pages (may once look like category page, but is just a simple list
[18:43:19] <CIA-54>	now)
[18:46:26] <CIA-54>	03mkroetzsch * r37125 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (includes/SMW_GlobalFunctions.php languages/SMW_Messages.php): removed "show results" message for concept preview, now that preview is immediate
[18:50:46] <darkcode>	Dantman I dunno what your trying to do, but have you tried using preg_quote()?
[18:51:05] <Dantman|FS>	It's more complex than that
[18:51:17] <Dantman|FS>	preg_quote is used for when it's a string replacement
[18:51:39] <Dantman|FS>	However, I can't use that in this case because I'm parsing a regex in a way
[18:52:04] <Dantman|FS>	Making sure it's closed right, and it only has modifiers that I allow
[18:55:40] <darkcode>	ok
[18:55:55] <darkcode>	addcslashes() is a little more flexible in quoting just what you want
[18:57:49] <eghjaytee>	Hello, does anyone know of a way to request only the html content of an article, without headers or fotters or anything else?
[18:58:38] <Dantman|FS>	Nah, I
[18:58:43] <Dantman|FS>	'm not trying t oquote it
[18:59:40] <Dantman|FS>	I'm basically running over the text... But if I start with / it shouldn't end at the next / if it has a \ before it, however if that has another \ before it and there are none it should be ending there
[18:59:51] <Dantman|FS>	;) It becomes insanely complex when you get to a certain point
[19:00:19] <darkcode>	yes action=render
[19:01:06] <Dantman|FS>	^_^ I basically have to itterate over the text, count the \ and find out if the number of them is even or odd
[19:01:40] <eghjaytee>	darkcode: thanks
[19:04:27] <darkcode>	yw eghjaytee
[19:06:34] <CIA-54>	03nicdumz * r37126 10/branches/category-redirects/includes/ (12 files in 3 dirs): 
[19:06:35] <CIA-54>	Implementing basic naive category redirect handling :
[19:06:35] <CIA-54>	* redirect=no is not yet handled for categories
[19:06:35] <CIA-54>	* category counts only reflect inline membership
[19:06:41] <NicDumZ>	yeeheee ^ :p
[19:08:23] <CharlotteWebb>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14735
[19:08:32] <CharlotteWebb>	i suppose if nobody in their right mind would use this config
[19:08:36] <CharlotteWebb>	the bug doesn't matter much
[19:09:17] <CharlotteWebb>	for the record i'm not necessarily in my right mind
[19:10:19] <darkcode>	Common allows anonymous uploads too I think
[19:10:27] <darkcode>	err Commons
[19:11:11] <OverlordQ>	darkcode: no
[19:13:38] <CharlotteWebb>	they allow "user" uploads rather than "autoconfirmed" as on en.wiki
[19:14:24] <CharlotteWebb>	or maybe enwiki changed back, i don't know
[19:15:17] <Mike||gone>	anon uploads are impossible, IIRC
[19:19:37] <CharlotteWebb>	they can be enabled in localsettings.php
[19:19:57] <CharlotteWebb>	and they will properly upload, but don't appear in any log
[19:21:48] <Duesentrieb>	i suspect that this case isn't quite expected by the software and prone to introduce inconsistencies
[19:25:08] <StarDustLilly>	Does anyone here know how to use DPL and create nested quaries?
[19:34:03] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add Bulgarian translation of the server error message - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14738 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (spiritia)
[19:38:52] <CIA-54>	03dale * r37127 10/branches/MetavidWiki-exp/MetavidWiki/ (6 files in 4 dirs): search interface sidebar tabs complete
[19:44:07] <darkcode>	hmm Dantman why not use 3 arguments? eg {{#replaceset:string|what to match|what to replace with}}?
[19:44:32] <Dantman|FS>	Because the point of the extension is a "Replace SET"
[19:45:10] <Dantman|FS>	I made it because it's horribly ugly and inefficient to use a pile of replace and regex tags over and over to modify something
[19:45:27] <Nikerabbit>	??
[19:45:59] <Dantman|FS>	{{#replace:{{#replace:{{#replace:{{{1|}}}|Foo|Bar}}|Big|Small}}|Black|White}}
[19:46:15] <Dantman|FS>	{{#replaceset:{{{1|}}}|Foo=Bar|Big=Small|Black=White}}
[19:46:34] <darkcode>	ok
[19:50:57] <Kire>	Permission denied in /includes/db/DatabaseSqlite.php on line 25, how can I fix this?
[19:51:09] <CIA-54>	03siebrand * r37128 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messages.inc: Add 'emailuserfooter'
[19:55:07] <Kire>	MediaWiki SQLite, how can I get it to work?
[19:56:28] <Duesentrieb>	Kire: i don't think you can. Was it ever supported?
[19:56:44] <Kire>	Duesentrieb: Yes svn of mediawiki it was added
[19:57:10] <Duesentrieb>	Kire: you seem to be right :)
[19:57:49] <Kire>	Hmm, I got rid of permissions error, now I get a warning and a databse error :S
[19:59:23] <Duesentrieb>	Kire: talk to the author. Nad apparently: http://www.organicdesign.co.nz/Nad
[19:59:35] <Kire>	"MySQL returned error" shouldn't even be using MySQL. And I am sure it could not return anything as it isn't isntalled!
[20:00:08] <Duesentrieb>	Kire: that system message is probably misleading. all references to MySQL should be removed...
[20:04:05] <Subfader>	I wonder why the search still lists namespaces you've set as pages without content in $wgContentNamespaces. Is there a way to hide unused namespaces popping up when you call searchableNamespaces()?
[20:04:22] <Subfader>	**as namespaces without content
[20:06:33] <CIA-54>	03siebrand * r37129 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (32 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-07-05 21:42 CEST)
[20:10:52] <CIA-54>	03siebrand * r37130 10/trunk/extensions/ (40 files in 39 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-07-05 21:42 CEST)
[20:13:24] <Kire>	Got Sqlite to work
[20:13:27] <Kire>	big pain.
[20:13:50] <Kire>	It made the database inside the /config and didn't move it to /
[20:13:56] <Kire>	then you have to chown and chmod
[20:15:11] <Kire>	I will add it to the wiki.
[20:23:48] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Several tweeks for se.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14665  +comment (10jeluf)
[20:24:14] <CIA-54>	03mkroetzsch * r37131 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/Export/SMW_SpecialOWLExport.php: Fixed export of categories, add limit to not have troubles with large categories
[20:35:23] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Add AnonTalk.com to $wgCaptchaRegexes (or $wgSpamRegex) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14544  +comment (10jeluf)
[20:36:30] <_overflow_>	hey, does anyone know what I have to do if  I need to create  a pool of contents into mediawiki DB?
[20:37:04] <Subfader>	what exactly do you mean with pool of contents 
[20:38:14] <CIA-54>	03dantman * r37132 10/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php: Minor fix, $parser was passed instead of $this like it should have been.
[20:38:21] <_overflow_>	Subfader, a lot of wiki pages 
[20:38:31] <Duesentrieb>	comming from where?
[20:38:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Global sessions not working across domains - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14736  +comment (10Platonides)
[20:38:36] <Duesentrieb>	in what form to you have the data
[20:38:37] <Duesentrieb>	?
[20:38:54] <Platonides>	_overflow_, get a mediawiki bot
[20:39:07] <Platonides>	or use importTextfile from maintenance folder
[20:39:09] <_overflow_>	Duesentrieb, a file (right now in html but I guess Ill have to convert to wiki format)
[20:39:21] <_overflow_>	Platonides, mmm
[20:39:46] <_overflow_>	Platonides, Ill check importTextfile. Thanks
[20:39:50] <Duesentrieb>	_overflow_: "a" file? you'd want one file per page, probably. 
[20:39:56] <Subfader>	a single article?
[20:40:02] <Duesentrieb>	_overflow_: alternatively, you can generate an xml dump, and import that
[20:40:04] <_overflow_>	Duesentrieb, yes 
[20:40:34] <Duesentrieb>	_overflow_: also: mediawiki supports most "simple" html, so conversion may not be needed. you will have to convert <a> and <img> tags though.
[20:40:50] <Duesentrieb>	but <b>,<i>,<p>,<div>,<table>.... are all supported
[20:41:07] <_overflow_>	Duesentrieb, is already in xml but I use a stylesheet for html
[20:41:22] <_overflow_>	*for convert to 
[20:41:39] <Duesentrieb>	_overflow_: "xml" doesn't say much. mediawiki's xml format is an xml wrapper around plain wiki text. so the actual content *isn't* xml.
[20:42:00] <Duesentrieb>	but it's probably easier to split your stuff into files and use importTextFile
[20:42:26] <_overflow_>	I know
[20:43:36] <_overflow_>	mmm
[20:43:50] <_overflow_>	just <a> and <img> ... ok 
[20:44:40] <Duesentrieb>	_overflow_: well, there are more unsupported things, like form elements etc, but i guess they will not occur on "content" pages
[20:44:49] <CIA-54>	03nicdumz * r37133 10/branches/category-redirects/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
[20:44:49] <CIA-54>	Do not allow category moves if the target Title is not in the category namespace.
[20:44:49] <CIA-54>	This commit adds a 'categorynocrossnamespace' message
[20:44:51] <Duesentrieb>	<script> isn't allowed either
[20:45:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Global sessions not working across domains - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14736  (10N/A)
[20:46:10] <Subfader>	_overflow_: try  the gadget on wikipedia called WikEd. It has a html > wiki markup convert function
[20:46:17] <Subfader>	for tables etc
[20:46:47] <Subfader>	also links, dunno images 
[20:47:38] <_overflow_>	Subfader, thanks
[20:48:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Several tweeks for se.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14665  +comment (10cbrown1023)
[20:49:07] <Subfader>	you know how to enable the gadget for your wikipedia account? then edit an empty page, paste the html into an empty edit form, mark all the text, click the [w] button. 
[20:49:18] <Subfader>	then preview :)
[20:51:50] <oh_so_ethical>	How do I get the text of an article w/ the api ?
[20:53:29] <Nikerabbit>	mau
[20:54:37] <CIA-54>	03mkroetzsch * r37134 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Export inferred elements of concepts, similar to elements of categories
[20:55:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Renaming global accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14721  (10londenp)
[20:59:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Several tweeks for se.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14665  (10jeluf)
[21:02:09] <oh_so_ethical>	How do I get the text of an article with the api?
[21:07:02] <CIA-54>	03daniel * r37135 10/trunk/extensions/ContactPage/ (ContactPage.php SpecialContact.php): Support $wgUserEmailUseReplyTo, use From or Reply-To accordingly
[21:07:09] <Subfader>	manually? wiki/api.php?format=xml&title=Main_Page
[21:07:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Several tweeks for se.wikimedia.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14665  (10mickewiki)
[21:07:26] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Create patroller and rollbacker group on Russian Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14568  +comment (10jeluf)
[21:07:42] <NicDumZ>	mmm... I fail to understand where &redirect=no is taken into account
[21:08:59] <NicDumZ>	and my various grep attempts did not help
[21:11:23] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Create an appendices namespace for gawikt - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14570  +comment (10jeluf)
[21:12:27] <Platonides>	NicDumZ, see what my grep attempt produced:
[21:12:28] <Platonides>	Wiki.php:                                       $request->getVal( 'redirect' ) !
[21:12:28] <Platonides>	= 'no' &&       // ... unless explicitly told not to
[21:12:59] <Platonides>	line 284
[21:13:11] <NicDumZ>	damn. I grepped for $wgRequest->get.*\( *'redirect' *\) :p
[21:13:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create patroller group on Danish Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14625  +comment (10jeluf)
[21:13:54] <Subfader>	i try to change a search extension. it lists all namespaces available but I want to hide unused namespaces by adding to-be-listed-namespaces manually. any hint how I would do that?
[21:13:59] <NicDumZ>	thanks ;)
[21:14:28] <Platonides>	glad to be useful :)
[21:15:42] <lymeca>	Do any wireless devices exist that are either Mini PCI Express Slots or are ExpressCards and require no binary-only proprietary firmware and/or HAL to operate?
[21:16:51] <lymeca>	Whoa
[21:16:56] <lymeca>	Wrong channel methinks
[21:17:06] <lymeca>	Meant to paste in #madwifi
[21:19:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Several tweeks for se.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14665  (10jeluf)
[21:20:44] <CIA-54>	03daniel * r37136 10/trunk/extensions/ContactPage/ (ContactPage.i18n.php ContactPage.php SpecialContact.php): added option that forces visitors to enter name and email address
[21:21:19] <Duesentrieb>	damn. forgot to escape $wgContactRequireAll in that commit message
[21:22:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Non-conformant XHTML in EasyTimeline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14727  +comment (10Platonides)
[21:25:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Several tweeks for se.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14665  (10mickewiki)
[21:32:02] <StarDustLilly>	would someone mind lookin at my dpl code?
[21:32:13] <domas>	dpl sucks
[21:32:14] <domas>	dpl must die
[21:32:36] <StarDustLilly>	<dpl>
[21:32:37] <StarDustLilly>	imagecontainer= 
[21:32:37] <StarDustLilly>	category=*Fractals
[21:32:37] <StarDustLilly>	mode= inline
[21:32:37] <StarDustLilly>	inlinetext=|&nbsp;
[21:32:37] <StarDustLilly>	shownamespace=false
[21:32:39] <StarDustLilly>	escapelinks=false
[21:32:41] <StarDustLilly>	listseparators=<gallery>,%PAGE%\n,,</gallery>
[21:32:43] <StarDustLilly>	</dpl>
[21:34:59] <StarDustLilly>	i'm trying to create a thumbnail gallery that displays the images on all the pages in a particular category
[21:35:34] <StarDustLilly>	im hoping that the above code generates this
[21:35:42] <StarDustLilly>	<dpl>
[21:35:42] <StarDustLilly>	   imagecontainer=Different Strokes| Field:Fractals| Fractal Scene I| Mateko
[21:35:42] <StarDustLilly>	   shownamespace=false
[21:35:42] <StarDustLilly>	   escapelinks=false
[21:35:42] <StarDustLilly>	   openreferences=true
[21:35:43] <StarDustLilly>	   listseparators=<gallery>,%PAGE%\n,,</gallery>
[21:35:45] <StarDustLilly>	</dpl>
[21:36:16] <StarDustLilly>	i mean this - 
[21:36:17] <StarDustLilly>	<dpl>
[21:36:17] <StarDustLilly>	imagecontainer=Different Strokes| Field:Fractals| Fractal Scene I| Mateko
[21:36:17] <StarDustLilly>	shownamespace=false
[21:36:17] <StarDustLilly>	escapelinks=false
[21:36:17] <StarDustLilly>	openreferences=true
[21:36:19] <StarDustLilly>	listseparators=<gallery>,%PAGE%\n,,</gallery>
[21:36:21] <StarDustLilly>	</dpl>
[21:38:45] <StarDustLilly>	is anyone here familar with DPL?
[21:39:06] <Subfader>	Don't paste text to the channel, use http://rafb.net/paste/
[21:40:38] <CIA-54>	03daniel * r37137 10/trunk/extensions/ContactPage/SpecialContact.php: suppress captcha if user has skipcaptcha permission
[21:40:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow Meta Checkusers/ Bureaucrats to grant & revoke IPBlockExempt status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14733  summary; +comment (10cbrown1023)
[21:43:31] <StarDustLilly>	ok Subfader
[21:44:13] <Subfader>	it's in the chanel info on top ;)
[21:44:36] <StarDustLilly>	:)
[21:44:51] <StarDustLilly>	is there another mediawiki channel?
[21:46:25] <Subfader>	sure. i only know another one for javascript in MW code
[21:46:56] <Subfader>	but no idea where you can get an overview. maybe search for mediawiki in the channel search
[21:58:08] <Subfader>	I wonder why the search still lists namespaces you've set as namespaces without content in $wgContentNamespaces. Is there a way to hide unused namespaces being listed in the search? popping up when you call searchableNamespaces()?
[22:03:49] <CIA-54>	03stipe * r37138 10/branches/MetavidWiki-exp/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (mv_embed.js sample_page.php): moved selected_player to embedVideo, fixed ROE linkback bug
[22:05:19] <MZMcBride>	Subfader: CSS?
[22:05:26] <MZMcBride>	Or check DefaultSettings.php for a variable.
[22:05:55] <Subfader>	yay. never use DefaultSettings.php. checking
[22:07:48] <giany>	can anyone help me setup rss on mediawiki?
[22:09:11] <MZMcBride>	Setup RSS?
[22:09:15] <giany>	yes
[22:09:16] <MZMcBride>	Doesn't it come with RSS?
[22:09:20] <StarDustLilly>	Anyone familiar with DPL?
[22:09:49] <giany>	i try to make this work
[22:09:50] <giany>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RSS_Reader#Code
[22:10:05] <giany>	but when  i try this : <rss time=7200>http://newsrss.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_uk_edition/world/rss.xml</rss>
[22:10:13] <giany>	on my page it appears the code..
[22:10:17] <giany>	like nothing happen
[22:10:41] <MZMcBride>	Go to Special:Version.
[22:10:47] <MZMcBride>	Is the extension listed there?
[22:11:00] <giany>	The requested URL /wiki/Special:Version was not found on this server.
[22:11:04] <giany>	hmm
[22:11:21] <giany>	StarDustLilly whats wrong with your DPL?
[22:11:36] <giany>	why dont i have this special:version?
[22:11:49] <MZMcBride>	If you don't, something's clearly broken.
[22:12:25] <StarDustLilly>	i'm trying to create a nested query but its not working
[22:13:50] <StarDustLilly>	it generates the code in text
[22:15:00] <giany>	u sure u installed dpl corectly?
[22:15:03] <CIA-54>	03brion * r37139 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: 
[22:15:03] <CIA-54>	Revert r37095 "Update message 'undelete'. Previous text was incorrect as pointed out by AlexSm."
[22:15:04] <CIA-54>	Previous text was more accurate and clear than new text imho; reverting.
[22:15:16] <giany>	is the extension listed in Special:Version
[22:15:50] <StarDustLilly>	yes
[22:16:02] <StarDustLilly>	everything else works
[22:16:20] <CIA-54>	03nicdumz * r37140 10/branches/category-redirects/includes/CategoryPage.php: Handle redirect=no for category redirects
[22:16:28] <CIA-54>	03brion * r37141 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Revert r37098 presumably based on reverted r37095
[22:17:31] <AaronSchulz>	brion: just went car shopping again. Saw a cute tan Infinity and a cuter silver Acura
[22:18:03] *AaronSchulz 	wants that Acura :)
[22:18:09] <brion>	AaronSchulz: http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/07/laugh-at-high-g.html
[22:18:17] <brion>	read the comments on that article... people are hilarious
[22:18:36] <AaronSchulz>	and I saw 4 new Prius cars
[22:18:43] <jlerner>	i think it looks kinda cool
[22:18:45] <AaronSchulz>	sure as hell can't afford em
[22:18:50] <jlerner>	as long as it's visible to other guys, i'd love to try it
[22:18:53] <brion>	you can't spit in my neighborhood without hitting four priuses
[22:18:56] <AaronSchulz>	but it's nice to peek around and slobber
[22:19:03] <NicDumZ>	hehe...
[22:19:33] <NicDumZ>	why would one need a car ? :)
[22:20:00] <AaronSchulz>	brion: wow
[22:20:02] <Subfader>	MZMcBride: nothing found in Default Settings. How would I do it in css? Surely with display:none but how if the source code is 
[22:20:04] <Subfader>	<td><input name="namespaces[]" value="11" id="namespaces-11" type="checkbox">&nbsp;<label for="namespaces-11">Template talk</label></td>
[22:20:09] <AaronSchulz>	and I thought two seaters were tiny ;)
[22:20:13] <Subfader>	tried #namespaces-11 { display:none; }  but no luck
[22:20:32] <MZMcBride>	That should work.
[22:20:37] <MZMcBride>	Did you bypass your local cache?
[22:20:44] <CIA-54>	03brion * r37142 10/trunk/phase3/skins/common/images/uk/LICENSE: fix order of labels
[22:21:07] <Subfader>	ah. only the chebox disappears of course
[22:21:23] <jlerner>	i'm not going to be able to make $wgOut->parse() respect $wgRawHTML, am i?
[22:21:37] <jlerner>	it can't handle <html>..</html> blocks  correctly
[22:22:26] <siebrand>	brion: It may be that I am not a native speaker of English, but how does "View deleted pages" relate to what is being done inside that box?
[22:22:42] <Subfader>	so how can I touch the <label for="namespaces-11"> via css?
[22:23:08] <CIA-54>	03brion * r37143 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Remove the uk button_link.png for the moment; I'm a little unclear on how proper it is to embed GFDL images into the UI of the GPL software. While there is a LICENSE file sitting next to it, no one would ever see it.
[22:23:20] <brion>	siebrand: probably it should be "View and restore deleted pages" which is the title shown to you when you go there
[22:24:22] <siebrand>	brion: I think the title is correct. The 'viewing of the deleted version(s)' is done in a different part of the page.
[22:24:31] <MZMcBride>	Subfader: label[for"namespaces-11"] {display:none;} 
[22:24:33] <MZMcBride>	I think.
[22:24:50] <brion>	siebrand: that message appears on Special:Specialpages as the link text
[22:24:53] <brion>	does it appear anywhere else?
[22:25:15] <oh_so_ethical>	hmm
[22:25:16] <CIA-54>	03brion * r37144 10/trunk/phase3/skins/common/images/uk/ (button_bold.png button_italic.png): set mime type properly
[22:25:17] <oh_so_ethical>	XML Parsing Error: junk after document element
[22:25:24] <oh_so_ethical>	I'm getting that error using the api
[22:25:31] <siebrand>	brion: yes, as the infobox (?) message on Special:Undelet
[22:25:33] <siebrand>	brion: yes, as the infobox (?) message on Special:Undelete
[22:25:39] <CIA-54>	03stipe * r37145 10/branches/MetavidWiki-exp/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/mv_embed.js: avoiding addROE bug when roe_data comes a string
[22:25:51] <oh_so_ethical>	<api><error code="unknown_action" info="Unrecognized value for parameter &#039;action&#039;: query" /></api>
[22:26:00] <oh_so_ethical>	Any ideas
[22:26:11] <brion>	oh_so_ethical: usually means you've got some text in your LocalSettings.php or other customized or extension files
[22:26:19] <oh_so_ethical>	Oh
[22:26:20] <siebrand>	brion: hmm... Guess a message should be added.
[22:26:26] <brion>	though you seem to also have a problem with your query :)
[22:26:29] <siebrand>	brion: I missed the usage in special page.
[22:26:41] <brion>	where do you see it being used?
[22:28:05] <siebrand>	brion: SpecialUndelete.php 984
[22:28:46] <siebrand>	brion: and I missed usage as the special page name on Special:SpecialPages, which is why you reverted, I guess. Correct?
[22:29:55] <brion>	right
[22:30:05] <brion>	can you describe the context of the usage on the page? i'm poking a couple other things atm :D
[22:30:19] <NicDumZ>	brion : dear mentor, we seem to have work hours aproximately... never overlapping :p
[22:30:58] <brion>	aww
[22:31:08] <brion>	how's it coming NicDumZ ? :D
[22:31:13] <brion>	i see you've been doing some commits
[22:31:18] <Nikerabbit>	:D
[22:31:18] <siebrand>	brion: header of the fieldset that contains the buttons Restore and Reset, and the field for restore reason.
[22:31:40] <Nikerabbit>	I have some hours with my mentor :D
[22:32:06] <brion>	siebrand: ok probably best is to make that fieldset use a different message, yes
[22:32:17] <brion>	that should indeed be "Restore revisions"
[22:32:17] <NicDumZ>	yes; I started quite late, mostly because of school ending late, but I'm fine now
[22:32:33] <brion>	super
[22:32:39] <NicDumZ>	from time to time little db concerns pop up, but Simetrical is able to help :)
[22:32:40] <brion>	what's your schedule look like in the next few weeks?
[22:32:44] <brion>	great :D
[22:32:47] <siebrand>	brion: msg id suggestion?
[22:32:59] <brion>	undelete-revisions maybe? [if not already taken]
[22:33:00] <Subfader>	MZMcBride: Hmh no I tried variations and google. looks like you normally add <label id="bla">. so since the code is added by some other wiki code i'm not able to hide it. well hiding the ns with css is not the correct solution anyway since there's a misunderstanding imo when $wgContentNamespaces is independend from searchableNamespaces()
[22:33:03] <^demon>	brion: I reimplemented the emailuserfooter in r37108 with your suggestions from the previous revert :-)
[22:33:25] <brion>	^demon: i'm looking at it right now :D
[22:33:30] <brion>	a couple of notes...
[22:33:30] <StarDustLilly>	Has anyone here worked with DPL before?
[22:33:32] <NicDumZ>	on this, fulltime until thursday, break; and... we'll meet in alexandria wont we ? :)
[22:33:51] <brion>	The separation right now is a little odd; there's only one newline so no full blank line between text and footer
[22:34:00] <brion>	the space before the "----" looks visually odd to me
[22:34:10] <brion>	i'm not sure the ---- shoul dbe hardcoded either
[22:34:18] <^demon>	Suggestions for proper separation?
[22:34:27] <brion>	and it might be good for the default footer to include a URL in addition to the sitename
[22:34:38] <brion>	\n\n--\n peraps
[22:34:57] <brion>	(and check if trailing newlines are already being trimmed or not -- be good to be consistent in the output)
[22:35:26] <^demon>	I'll tweak it a bit.
[22:35:26] <brion>	NicDumZ: ah you're coming to alexandria? awesome!
[22:35:44] <brion>	i'll be there, then off in portland the following week for OSCON
[22:36:05] *^demon 	dreads brion being out of town and commits getting behind in review again :D
[22:36:33] <NicDumZ>	I am. landing at 3am the 16th, and already meeting some MW hackers at 4am, probably in the same bus :)
[22:36:33] <siebrand>	brion: does 'undeletefieldsettitle' sound really wrong?
[22:36:58] <brion>	siebrand: it sounds horrible ;) too many words strung together
[22:37:26] <siebrand>	brion: was just keeping that horrible convention in that section. 'undelete-fieldsettitle' any better?
[22:37:55] <brion>	if you must write it that way, try undelete-fieldset-title
[22:38:00] <siebrand>	will do.
[22:38:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create patroller group on Danish Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14625  (10broadbeer)
[22:38:25] <brion>	we try to use - as word separtor these days to make them more legible
[22:38:27] <CIA-54>	03stipe * r37146 10/branches/MetavidWiki-exp/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/mv_embed.js: fixed addROE bug when called with string argument
[22:38:33] <^demon|dinner>	I'll clean it up post-dinner brion. :-)
[22:38:45] <brion>	super
[22:39:31] <mark>	if it was dutch it would be the proper way, though :)
[22:41:18] <CIA-54>	03siebrand * r37147 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Add message 'undelete-fieldset-title' to resolve issue identified in r37095 and reverted in r37139
[22:44:35] <darkcode>	nay chance of https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14618 being taken of? its for a request to enable FlaggedRevs
[22:45:32] <darkcode>	err any chance of
[22:45:50] <CIA-54>	03brion * r37148 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES docs/hooks.txt includes/parser/Parser.php): 
[22:45:50] <CIA-54>	Revert r37078, 37132 "New hook ParserBeforeTranscludeTemplate:
[22:45:50] <CIA-54>	This hook allows for modification of the title and text of a template which is being transcluded.
[22:45:50] <CIA-54>	Use of this hook will allow extensions to create features such as TransWiki for an alternative to ScaryTransclusions."
[22:45:53] <CIA-54>	This hook seems a bit oddly placed to me; the template gets fetched locally, and *then* we give the opportunity to fetch it remotely instead? Just seems to be in the wrong order, and pretty unclear.
[22:46:00] <brion>	darkcode: in a bit, but not immediately prolly
[22:46:26] <darkcode>	ok
[22:46:58] <brion>	siebrand: looks good, thx :D
[22:47:09] <AaronSchulz>	any chance someone might by me a Prius?
[22:47:18] <brion>	save up your pennies
[22:47:38] <AaronSchulz>	brion: rarrr, I should apply for a job at radio shack or something
[22:47:47] <AaronSchulz>	this contract offer is taking too long
[22:48:11] <brion>	i'll draw up the paperwork tomorrow :)
[22:48:23] <AaronSchulz>	does it include a Pruis? ;)
[22:48:31] <AaronSchulz>	oh, and it can't be black
[22:48:47] <brion>	the charcoal ain't half bad
[22:49:00] <brion>	my favorite's the blue, but my brother got the same one >:(
[22:49:15] <amalon>	hi, whats the best (and preferably transparent) way to link to the "parent" of an article from a template. by parent i mean the article "abc" being the parent of "abc/def" etc
[22:49:17] <giany>	what can i do so instead of index.php?title=Special:Version to have only Special:Version ?
[22:49:21] <brion>	on the plus side, i can laugh at his $500/mo lease payments
[22:49:51] <AaronSchulz>	brion: what do you drive?
[22:50:17] <brion>	at the moment i don't own a car; public transit for daily commute (pretty decent in SF) and i rent whatever strikes my fancy for trips out of town
[22:50:37] <brion>	it's nice since i can try lots of different cars, so when i do need to buy again i'll have a better idea what i want :D
[22:50:44] <AaronSchulz>	well that certainly gets less carbon footprint than a pruis ;)
[22:51:57] *amalon 	wonders if there's a regex substitution plugin..
[22:52:23] <CIA-54>	03jablko * r37149 10/trunk/extensions/WebDAV/ (8 files in 4 dirs): Initial import from Free Geek repository: http://svn.freegeek.org/svn/mediawiki-webdav
[22:53:31] <darkcode>	[[../|parent]]
[22:53:49] <amalon>	darkcode: ooh, so simple, why didn't i think of that
[22:54:55] <amalon>	:( doesn't work
[22:55:54] <darkcode>	you can also do [[{{BASEPAGENAME}}|parent]]
[22:56:09] <brion>	ok kids, i'm gonna run off and pretend i've got a life for the evening ;)
[22:56:13] <brion>	see ya tomorrah
[22:57:20] <amalon>	darkcode: {{BASEPAGENAME}} doesn't seem to work either, just seems to link to same page
[22:57:28] <Subfader>	is this a bug? cos i doubt anyone will read this talk page in the next 2 years http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:%24wgContentNamespaces
[22:58:18] <darkcode>	it will work on any page the template is used on
[22:58:28] <darkcode>	just not on the template since its not a subpage
[22:58:54] <amalon>	darkcode: http://yorkipedia.theyorker.co.uk/index.php/Christian_Union/cc
[22:59:05] <amalon>	the "here" after the this page has been rewritten is the link
[22:59:55] <amalon>	(template is here: http://yorkipedia.theyorker.co.uk/index.php/Template:CcRewritten)
[22:59:59] <amalon>	any ideas why its not working?
[23:00:38] <G>	drats, missed brion by 3 minutes :)
[23:01:03] <darkcode>	you probably have to enable Subpages for the namespace
[23:01:15] *amalon 	nods
[23:01:37] <amalon>	ah right i see
[23:01:44] <darkcode>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgNamespacesWithSubpages
[23:04:16] <CIA-54>	03siebrand * r37150 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (15 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-07-06 00:51 CEST)
[23:05:17] <CIA-54>	03siebrand * r37151 10/trunk/extensions/ (16 files in 16 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-07-06 00:51 CEST)
[23:05:26] <amalon>	beautiful, thankyou darkcode
[23:08:39] <siebrand>	Is the one who just imported WebDAV extension here? Licensing is unclear.
[23:17:01] <MZMcBride>	!sidebar | giany 
[23:17:01] --mwbot--	giany: To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar>.
[23:26:00] <Krie>	How comes half of MediaWiki the background is different colours?
[23:26:13] <Krie>	Can I make all the pages within my group different colours?
[23:31:16] <Subfader>	yes you define background colors per namespace. just dunno how atm
[23:34:00] <infinisoft>	CSS trick, I think
[23:34:27] <infinisoft>	The <body> has a class that changes based on namespace
[23:35:35] <Subfader>	well, mediawiki.org doesn't help much when you search
[23:38:35] <G>	infinisoft: spot on, <body class="mediawiki ns-102 ltr page-Extension_ConfirmEdit"> when visiting http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit
[23:55:42] <darkcode>	.ns0 { background:red; } .ns1 { background:green; } .ns2 { background:blue; }