[00:06:30] What are the configuration variables related to bot api? [00:06:46] is there a way to define a textarea by means of pixels instead of rows / columns? in other words, how do you perfectly align a textarea with a different object? [00:07:12] use CSS to define width: ##px shuold work [00:07:41] naa doesn't pick up i'm afraid [00:08:27] DanielTahar, use CSS. [00:08:51] YurtleTheTurtle, look in includes/DefaultSettings.php for a list of all config variables, some documentation for each, and of course the default settings. [00:09:34] i am, it's not picking up. i'm not sure you're even theoretically supposed to be able to set a textarea pixel width, because of the cols / rows, but was wondering if anyone has any tips [00:11:12] What browser are you using? [00:11:16] firefox [00:11:45] DanielTahar, you can set a textarea width in whatever unit you want. You're doing it wrong. [00:11:55] If you have a link, I can tell you how exactly you're doing it wrong. [00:12:05] width? of course. has nothing to do with cols/rows [00:12:48] sorry, correction. it works fine in ie, but not in firefox; i have a CSS that defines the textarea; when changing fonts, colors etc. on it, it works fine; when adding "width: 500px", it works in IE, not in firefox [00:13:32] ah, that width [00:14:03] FF2 or 3? [00:14:46] 3 [00:15:18] DanielTahar, then you probably have a syntax error or other error that IE accepts and Firefox ignores. [00:15:24] Could you paste the code somewhere? [00:15:32] should work anyway ;). [00:15:41] try this in a plain html file locally: [00:15:41]
[00:15:41]
[00:15:41]
[00:15:49] if that works, then you're just doing it wrong ^_^ [00:15:54] ;) [00:15:54] well [00:16:12] thing is i can only do textarea class, because i'm using semantic forms [00:16:20] "Textarea class"? [00:16:24] are you putting it inline, in main.css, MediaWiki:Common.css, MediaWiki:Monobook.css ? [00:16:55] Can you link to your wiki? [00:16:59] textarea { width:500px; } <-- like that? [00:17:07] in common [00:17:07] try !important or higher specificity [00:17:09] well [00:17:30] if you say "I'm using .textarea" then Simetrical will hit you [00:17:37] the semantic forms thing allows me to create a field: {{{input|class=}}} [00:17:38] naa [00:17:48] heh [00:18:02] could it be a caching issue with common.css or something? [00:18:04] but you said "semantic" so flyingparchment will hit you anyway [00:18:16] well, yes, they are client side cached and server side cached [00:18:22] DanielTahar, yes, it could. Clear your client cache. [00:18:28] did you not hit ctrl-f5 in FF? [00:18:32] *Splarka hits DanielTahar! [00:18:40] (pet peeve) [00:19:43] yeah ofcourse [00:19:48] naa not a caching issue [00:22:42] Can you link to the wiki or not? [00:24:04] no sorry that's the prob [00:24:30] ok, here [00:24:31]

[00:24:47] <Mike_lifeguard>	clear
[00:24:51] *Mike_lifeguard 	facepalm
[00:24:54] <DanielTahar>	this is what comes out "compiled" after everything
[00:29:43] <Splarka>	...
[00:30:44] <DanielTahar>	ok, a different way
[00:30:46] <DanielTahar>	to define this:
[00:30:48] <DanielTahar>	<textarea tabindex="15" id="input_15" name="Personal_Information_Template[Paragraph1]" rows="5" cols="80" class="createboxInput paragraph_class" 
[00:30:55] <DanielTahar>	in common.css
[00:31:05] <DanielTahar>	what is the reference i'm making? i.e. what is the style i'm defining?
[00:31:17] <DanielTahar>	textarea.createboxInput paragraph_class {?
[00:32:18] <Splarka>	you see the cols="" there?
[00:32:44] <DanielTahar>	yeah yeah forget about that issue though, i'm asking in general
[00:32:46] <DanielTahar>	do i define
[00:32:58] <DanielTahar>	textarea.createboxinput paragraph_class, or input.createboxinput paragraph_class
[00:33:04] <Splarka>	well, you just use
[00:33:11] <Splarka>	textarea.createboxInput  or textarea.paragraph_class
[00:33:27] <Splarka>	textarea.createboxinput paragraph_class, or input.createboxinput paragraph_class would neither do anything
[00:33:44] <Splarka>	textarea.createboxinput.paragraph_class would work in some browsers
[00:34:37] <DanielTahar>	add this line to your resume
[00:34:42] <DanielTahar>	"saved someone from suicide"
[00:34:45] <DanielTahar>	thanks
[00:34:48] <DanielTahar>	unbelievable
[00:34:56] <DanielTahar>	this thing took like five years of my life.
[00:35:39] <Simetrical>	If you had pasted the code to begin with . . .
[00:35:58] <Splarka>	heh
[00:36:13] <Splarka>	the class="" parameter is, confusing to some, a space delimited list of classes the object should have
[00:36:22] <Splarka>	.bold {font-weight:bold;}
[00:36:34] <Splarka>	.big {font-size:150%}
[00:36:44] <Splarka>	<span class="big"> big </span>
[00:36:49] <Splarka>	<span class="bold"> bold </span>
[00:36:54] <Splarka>	<span class="big bold"> chuck norris </span>
[00:37:34] <Splarka>	anyway, apparently some browsers will see cols="" and will have a hard time overriding it
[00:37:55] <DanielTahar>	well that could be it but i think i also really didn't understand the hierarchy thing as it used to be more loose before
[00:38:00] <DanielTahar>	you really saved me, thanks
[00:39:17] <Splarka>	right
[00:39:23] <Splarka>	foo {}  is a tag named <foo>
[00:39:33] <Splarka>	#bar {} is a <foo id="bar">
[00:39:42] <Splarka>	.baz {} is <foo class="baz">
[00:39:52] <Splarka>	foo#bar and foo.baz also apply
[00:39:57] <Splarka>	read up on hierarchy
[00:40:03] <Splarka>	you can get quite complex, heh
[00:40:24] <Splarka>	foo > bar will apply to <foo><bar/></foo> but not <foo><baz><bar/></baz></foo>
[00:40:47] <Splarka>	bar + bar {} will apply to the second and third: <foo><bar/><bar/><bar/></foo>
[00:43:13] <YurtleTheTurtle>	Anyone in here know how to create search and replace filters for AutoWikiBrowser?
[00:44:21] <FunPika>	try #autowikibrowser
[00:44:39] <YurtleTheTurtle>	I asked, but nobody seems to be home.
[00:44:55] *Alexfusco5 	thinks TimStarling should release mediawiki 1.13
[00:45:13] <FunPika>	so... #mediawiki is the appropriate choice? O_o
[00:45:18] *Alexfusco5 	thinks TimStarling should release mediawiki 1.13 ;)
[00:45:23] <Alexfusco5>	oops
[00:45:32] <YurtleTheTurtle>	Only othe rone that I'm in :) seemed closer then the cmd channel
[00:45:36] <Alexfusco5>	I thought I didn't say that
[00:45:43] <Alexfusco5>	before sorry
[00:47:36] <G>	wow, that was a quick fire visit :)
[00:56:11] <CIA-54>	03river * r37218 10/trunk/switchboard/ (5 files): 
[00:56:11] <CIA-54>	fcgi_cgi.cc: handle the case where app_ is null
[00:56:11] <CIA-54>	fcgi_server_connection.cc: don't write records after we're dead
[00:56:11] <CIA-54>	fcgi_record_writer.cc: add close() method; handle the case in flush_done where the socket is invalid (unknown cause)
[01:05:15] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Request editcount for rvprop in prop=revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14746 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (jutiphan)
[01:12:03] <CIA-54>	03demon * r37219 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: Implement OFFSET in getContributors(). Nothing currently passes this param, so it shouldn't change any current behavior.
[01:12:27] <CIA-54>	03tstarling * r37220 10/trunk/phase3/languages/LanguageConverter.php: Fixed two bugs in LanguageConverter, introduced in the last few commits, causing -{text}- to incorrectly generate an error.
[01:14:36] <reisio>	'SkinTemplate::makeTalkUrlDetails given invalid pagename User:' when using proxy
[01:16:48] <Alexfusco5>	ohai brion :)
[01:17:00] <brion>	yo
[01:19:09] <G>	brion: yo
[01:25:19] <reisio>	any ideas as to why people might get 'SkinTemplate::makeTalkUrlDetails given invalid pagename User:' when using a proxy?
[01:26:49] <brion>	reisio: maybe the proxy's broken and doesn't like URLs containing :
[01:27:42] <reisio>	hrmmm
[01:27:54] <G>	brion: would it be possible to get commit access to SVN?  I've been working on a couple of smallish patches, the biggest would be extending SpamBlacklist so it could filter text input for move reasons etc (Diff at: http://pastebin.com/m607fa2a8), my other changes are the hook documentation, and a new extension in response to bug to the "Allow people to edit their choosen summaries - which needs a bit of cleanup
[01:29:32] <brion>	G: it usually helps to have some history to reference; past patches, bug reports, discussion?
[01:29:41] <brion>	i'm not familiar with your nick so no idea :D
[01:30:18] <G>	brion: yeah, I'm trying to find one of the bug reports
[01:30:58] <G>	looks like My Bugs on the WM Bugzilla is different to the query on the RH one :)
[01:31:45] <G>	Ahh here it is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13937 is the bit about edit summaries
[01:31:51] <Alexfusco5>	brion: Can I haz the big red button? ;)
[01:31:57] <G>	I was speaking to Tim the other night too
[01:31:58] <G>	bbias
[01:54:35] <G>	brion: http://dev.nigelj.com/mw/ is the code I have at the moment, but as I said, it needs a bit of cleanup, but once I'm a little bit more confident with the code, I'd like to do a bit of work on the core, plus I'm helping with the Fedora Project MW-implementation so any issues can hopefully be fixed in SVN, thats my main reason for asking
[01:54:52] <brion>	oy
[01:55:03] <brion>	super
[01:55:45] <brion>	go ahead and post a link to that on the bug for starters
[01:56:47] <G>	brion: yeah, I just uploaded it from my last comment to now I changed quite a bit (improvements - logging in RC etc)
[01:56:53] <brion>	quick note -- wfTimestamp( TS_MW )-(60*60) sounds a bit fragile
[01:57:13] <brion>	TS_MW format isn't suitable for arithmetic of that sort; use TS_UNIX which is a nice integer count of seconds
[01:57:21] <G>	brion: as noted in the comments I agree, it needs to be configurable
[01:57:28] <G>	ahhh right!  thanks
[01:58:08] <G>	that might solve one of the bugs I was witnessing too
[02:00:36] <brion>	$summary = $wgRequest->getVal( 'summary' ); <- use getText() here, in case lang-specific input encoding is used
[02:01:19] <G>	argh, why hadn't I realised that
[02:01:21] <brion>	probably dump getRevisionByTitle() and getRevisionById(); just use Revision::newFrom* funcs
[02:01:50] <brion>	also check for failures -- if we get bad input we shouldn't just have a fatal error on th enext line $rev->getId() :)
[02:03:11] <G>	I also need to check in the if wasPosted() bit that the edit key returned was the correct one
[02:03:19] <brion>	$wgOut->addWikiText( wfMsg( <- consider using addWikiMsg if you're targetting only recentish MW versions; this'll better handle parser functions in the localization
[02:03:41] <brion>	you should check the edit token too yes :)
[02:04:02] <G>	that bit slipped my mind tbh, I coded it in the form but not the check
[02:04:25] <brion>				Xml::inputLabel( wfMsg( 'new-summary' ), 'summary', 'summary', 30, htmlspecialchars( $rev->getComment() ) ) . ' ' .
[02:04:33] <brion>	^ you've got some double escapin ghere
[02:04:54] <brion>		function printForm( &$rev ) { <- you can drop the & here, that's php4 stuff :)
[02:05:36] <G>	oh does $rev->getComment escape already?
[02:06:17] <brion>	no
[02:06:24] <brion>	Xml::inputLabel does
[02:06:45] <G>	ahh! right I got'cha now
[02:10:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Correcting edit summaries (if own, last, & recent) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13937  (10dev)
[02:11:05] <G>	there, I've added a copy of the patch to add the extra hook
[02:11:07] <Splarka>	what they say: "Can I have commit access". What brion sees: "Cam you teach me php by reverting all my commits?"
[02:11:30] <G>	errr actually, that patch is slightly wrong
[02:13:52] <Smaug>	Alexfusco5: you said "[20:44:50] Alexfusco5 thinks TimStarling should release mediawiki 1.13" is this out of the blue or do you think that will occur soon?
[02:14:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Correcting edit summaries (if own, last, & recent) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13937  +comment (10dev)
[02:14:35] <Alexfusco5>	Smaug: if they are following a quarterly release then it should've been released in June
[02:14:41] <Smaug>	Alexfusco5: that I know
[02:14:52] <Smaug>	i think they just gave up on that plan
[02:15:03] <Alexfusco5>	but brion said that TimStarling gets to decide when mw 1.13 is released
[02:15:09] <Smaug>	i see
[02:15:22] *Alexfusco5 	doesn't care, he runs off the trunk anyway :p
[02:15:29] *Smaug 	is still on 1.11
[02:15:44] <G>	anyway, be back in 20 or so mins
[02:15:57] <G>	brion: thanks for those fixes, I'll upload a new copy when I get back
[02:16:55] <Smaug>	Alexfusco5: incidentially, you run off the trunk meaning you get the up-to-the-minute Wikipedia-used newest revision?  do you have to manually update your installation or is there an automatic process?
[02:17:41] <Alexfusco5>	Smaug: if you have svn installed then all I have to do is type svn up in a command line and it updates
[02:18:44] <Alexfusco5>	to get the trunk you just need to run "svn co http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/phase3 w"
[02:18:54] <Alexfusco5>	without the quotes obviously :)
[02:19:06] <Smaug>	Alexfusco5: no non-svn way, though?  i tried using svn, it didn't work on my computer for some reason.  and I didn't feel it was worth my time to get it to work.  maybe i've found a reason to set aside time sometime in the future
[02:19:22] <Smaug>	thanks though
[02:19:31] <Alexfusco5>	Smaug: 2 possibilities
[02:19:31] <Smaug>	i'll file that away
[02:19:43] <Alexfusco5>	1 manually download every file
[02:20:08] <Alexfusco5>	2 http://toolserver.org/~vvv/mw-nightly/
[02:20:13] <Alexfusco5>	but thats manual
[02:20:55] <Smaug>	k
[02:26:27] <Alexfusco5>	brion: can you add a wiki to http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests/Tools for me please?
[02:26:44] <Alexfusco5>	or unprotect temporarily so I can :)
[02:35:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Feature request: local hiding of account names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14476  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[02:37:46] <CIA-54>	03river * r37222 10/trunk/switchboard/ (8 files): 
[02:37:46] <CIA-54>	- handle SIGCHLD and reap children which have exited on demand. for some reason, waitpid() doesn't seem to actually work here.
[02:37:46] <CIA-54>	- instead of relying on the web server to send SCRIPT_FILENAME, parse
[02:37:46] <CIA-54>	SCRIPT_NAME (which is e.g. "/~river/x.php") and generate SCRIPT_FILENAME
[02:37:48] <CIA-54>	ourselves. this is required to support pathinfo on sun java system web server
[02:37:50] <CIA-54>	(e.g. stable.ts.org). needs two additional config options: 'docroot' and
[02:37:52] <CIA-54>	'userdir'.
[02:52:33] <G>	brion: btw, wouldn't the if ($rev) { that I already had filter out missing/incorrect revisions?
[02:53:47] <G>	(It does for me)
[03:00:33] <G>	brion: in both cases $rev remains null until if ( $rev ), but I've made changes there and cut out those two functions
[03:15:22] <G>	brion: okay, I've implemented those changes, also spotted where you were getting at with the $rev-getId() and fixed that, thanks heaps!
[03:20:11] <CIA-54>	03danny_b * r37223 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): * keeping the consistence of the function name string
[03:31:13] <CIA-54>	03tstarling * r37224 10/trunk/phase3/ (10 files in 4 dirs): 
[03:31:13] <CIA-54>	* Split off DB load monitoring logic into a LoadMonitor class hierarchy, to allow for plugins in this area.
[03:31:13] <CIA-54>	* Use an associative array to initialise LoadBalancer objects
[03:31:13] <CIA-54>	* By default, use Preprocessor_DOM if available, otherwise use Preprocessor_Hash. Preprocessor_Hash has worse performance.
[03:31:13] <CIA-54>	* Fix parserTests.php for replicated databases. Use CREATE TABLE instead of CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE if there is more than one server configured.
[03:31:18] <CIA-54>	* Log exceptions even in command-line mode.
[03:47:17] <SQLDb>	brion: hey, you reverted a patch I mostly wrote to Antispoof in r36964, and, I'm a little unclear on what you meant in your summary... Do you mean split it up into several messages (e.g. antispoof-name-conflict1, antispoof-name-conflict2, antispoof-name-conflict3, etc etc etc)? 
[03:47:48] <SQLDb>	I've got a working local copy doing that with switch(), but, it's uuuuuuuugly :(
[04:01:17] <CIA-54>	03river * r37225 10/trunk/switchboard/ (5 files): under Apache mod_fastcgi, SCRIPT_NAME is garbage. instead, work out the script filename from PATH_TRANSLATED
[04:06:57] <CIA-54>	03river * r37226 10/trunk/switchboard/ (fcgi_application.cc fcgi_cgi.cc): need to set params here
[04:40:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Got notice, about MEMCACHE_COMPRESSED constant - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14159  +comment (10jimhu)
[04:47:04] <flyingparchment>	how can i recover a deleted file from svn?
[04:47:27] <amidaniel>	Checkout an old version of the file?
[04:48:33] <jablko>	i'm calling $dbw->insert(...)
[04:48:38] <jablko>	and it seems to succeed
[04:49:04] <jablko>	but when i check the database, the INSERT did not have an effect
[04:49:21] <jablko>	i've been over Manual:Database_access
[04:49:34] <jablko>	any ideas why this might be?
[04:49:51] <jablko>	i'm thinking a transaction is not getting committed, maybe?
[04:50:28] <G>	it should work
[04:51:17] <jablko>	hmm...
[04:51:41] *jablko 	tries a test $dbw->select(...) right after the insert()
[04:53:09] <G>	see if $dbw->insertId() returns anything
[04:54:00] <jablko>	G: good idea
[04:59:05] <CIA-54>	03river * r37227 10/trunk/tools/ts-specs/ (3 files): TSpython-mysql.spec, TSpython-flup.spec, TSpython-setuptools.spec: new specs
[05:01:37] <jablko>	G: OK, the select() right after the insert() does show the newly created row
[05:02:04] <jablko>	but inspecting the database manually shows the row is not there : (
[05:02:08] <Michael_M>	How is $_SESSION['wsToken'] calculated?
[05:02:17] <jablko>	->insertId() returns int(0)
[05:02:22] <Michael_M>	It's an md5 hash, but of what?
[05:02:52] <jablko>	but i think that's because the table i'm inserting into does not auto-increment?
[05:06:37] <Splarka>	$this->mToken = md5( $key . mt_rand( 0, 0x7fffffff ) . wfWikiID() . $this->mId );
[05:07:05] <Splarka>	of random crap, just has to be unpredictable
[05:07:28] <Michael_M>	There, it's in the database. Hallelujah.
[05:07:42] <Michael_M>	Time to hack this thing :)
[05:08:02] *Michael_M 	is hacking his own site - not someone else's :)
[05:08:09] <CIA-54>	03shinjiman * r37228 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Old/Late Time Chinese
[05:15:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) UniversalEditButton shows edit button on edit page. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14722  +comment (10dan_the_man)
[05:17:18] <jdownie>	I want to use some images as icons to pages rather than the page for the image itself. does anybody know how to do that?
[05:21:53] <Splarka>	!imagelink
[05:21:53] --mwbot--	Image linking is intentionally not supported in MediaWiki, so access to the image's description page is always available. If you need image links, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Linked_images> for methods and information. One way to achieve this is <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Icon>.
[05:22:25] <jdownie>	thanks
[05:23:29] <Michael_M>	Ok, who here is familiar with the security of mediaWiki?
[05:23:53] <Michael_M>	Cause I'd like to consult on the ramifications of a hack I've done to stop a session log out bug in a vbulletin bridge to the wiki.
[05:24:30] <Michael_M>	The bridge for whatever reason wasn't always populating the session vars for the username, usertoken and userid.
[05:24:37] <Michael_M>	However it was writing the cookie values.
[05:25:04] <Michael_M>	My workaround is use the cookie username to pull the necessary session info.
[05:25:39] <Michael_M>	note that a hacker trying to forge just that part of the cookie would be blocked by vbulletin
[05:31:13] <CIA-54>	03sql * r37229 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DifferenceEngine.php: whitespace to bring function into line with http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Coding_conventions
[05:46:59] <CIA-54>	03river * r37230 10/trunk/switchboard/ (11 files): don't use buffered sockets
[05:48:32] <Michael_M>	No one?
[05:48:43] <Michael_M>	Hmm.. Well, I hope it will be safe.  I think it will.
[05:49:21] <CIA-54>	03river * r37231 10/trunk/switchboard/fcgi_record_writer.cc: flush_done is no longer used
[05:50:13] <Michael_M>	I don't know if any of the devs are in here, but have you ever considered emulating a namespace using a static class?
[05:50:45] <Michael_M>	It's not a total solution, but it would remove the need to have several dozen variables running around in the $GLOBALS array.
[06:05:17] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Advanced #ask: functions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13874  +comment (10markus)
[06:34:11] <oh_so_ethical>	I'm not getting a valid token
[06:34:15] <oh_so_ethical>	from the api
[06:35:20] <Splarka>	what type? edit/delete/undelete/previewdelete/move/unmove/block/unblock?     or.... rollback?
[06:35:36] <G>	hmmm, I think I'm getting somewhere with bug 14698, (can't create an account even though the block says they might be able to)
[06:35:52] <oh_so_ethical>	Splarka, edit
[06:36:21] <Splarka>	doublecheck: you're logged in, have the cookies, *not* using callback?
[06:36:31] <oh_so_ethical>	38bc77c7aa7c877757aacd3add9837c2+\
[06:36:32] <oh_so_ethical>	<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><api><error code="badtoken" info="Invalid token" /></api>
[06:36:39] <SQLDb>	Splarka: we're having rollback token issues too
[06:36:45] <oh_so_ethical>	Splarka, callback... how? I have the cookie
[06:36:52] <oh_so_ethical>	Because I check to make sure I'm logged in
[06:37:05] <SQLDb>	Splarka: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvtoken=rollback&titles=Main%20Page refresh it a few times and you'll get at least one blank token
[06:37:16] <SQLDb>	dunno if it's a generation issue
[06:37:39] <SQLDb>	(well, if you have rollback at least)
[06:39:43] <Splarka>	SQL: saw
[06:40:20] <SQLDb>	Splarka: ahh, sorry
[06:40:26] <Splarka>	(but I don't have +sysop on en.wp anyway)
[06:40:46] *SQLDb 	grants Splarka +rollbacker
[06:40:57] <Splarka>	eep, no, I can test it on test
[06:41:10] <Splarka>	works for me there, probably buggy for some mysterious squid reason
[06:41:11] <oh_so_ethical>	:D
[06:41:15] <oh_so_ethical>	:\
[06:41:21] <oh_so_ethical>	:'(
[06:41:23] <Splarka>	tentacles and all
[06:41:36] <Splarka>	oh_so_ethical: does the edit token work on test.wp for you?
[06:41:56] <SQLDb>	spine55: too late :P http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=&page=User%3ASplarka&year=&month=-1
[06:41:59] <SQLDb>	ERM
[06:42:06] <SQLDb>	Splarka even
[06:42:30] <Splarka>	yknow I've had to ask to be de-bureaucratted twice on test.wp? heh
[06:42:58] <SQLDb>	lolz
[06:44:49] <Splarka>	oh_so_ethical: works for me anyway
[06:45:04] <Splarka>	http://test.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=info&intoken=edit&titles=Foo  gives me the same token as http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo?action=edit
[06:45:38] <Splarka>	same for en.wp/foo
[06:45:41] <G>	do we no longer do $wgUser->isAllowed?
[06:46:35] <Splarka>	oh_so_ethical: are you sure it isn't being corrupted?
[06:47:50] <SQLDb>	Splarka: indeed, confirm here, I can get a valid edit token so far 20/20 times
[06:47:59] <Splarka>	right
[06:48:19] <SQLDb>	so, it's not a generation issue
[06:48:26] <Splarka>	oh_so_ethical: does the same edit token work submitted to index.php? probably an api error
[06:54:42] <oh_so_ethical>	Splarka, I dunno
[06:54:58] <Splarka>	try it?
[06:55:02] <oh_so_ethical>	Uh, how so
[06:55:21] <Splarka>	well, what are you doing/using to attempt submit the edit via the API?
[06:56:07] <oh_so_ethical>	Uh, I enabled editing via the api ;)
[06:56:23] <Splarka>	right
[06:56:29] <SQLDb>	oh_so_ethical: troubleshoot it by submitting the edit token to index.php as... wpToken I think
[06:56:31] <Splarka>	but what are you doing? what are you using?
[06:56:45] <Splarka>	pywikipedia bot? something you wrote yourself? a <form> ?
[06:56:47] <oh_so_ethical>	What am I using? Python. I'm writing my own framework.
[06:56:51] <Splarka>	k
[06:56:54] <Splarka>	so send it to index.php
[06:57:02] <oh_so_ethical>	ok...
[06:57:09] <Splarka>	same info, just change the parameters to what is used there
[06:57:13] <Splarka>	as a test, mind you
[06:57:32] <oh_so_ethical>	api.php -> index.php ?
[06:57:36] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_index.php#Parameters_that_are_needed_to_save
[06:57:39] <Splarka>	pretty much
[06:57:59] <oh_so_ethical>	Ok
[06:58:18] <Splarka>	token= to wpEditToken=
[06:58:24] <SQLDb>	ahh, wpEditToken
[06:58:30] <Splarka>	text= to wpTextbox1=
[06:58:30] <Splarka>	etc
[06:58:31] *SQLDb 	was slightly off
[06:59:00] <CIA-54>	03tstarling * r37232 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Allow the search box, toolbox and languages box in the Monobook sidebar to be moved around arbitrarily using special sections in [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]]: SEARCH, TOOLBOX and LANGUAGES
[07:00:04] <Splarka>	ooh
[07:00:08] <oh_so_ethical>	Splarka, this is stupid... login to the api and edit via index.php >_>
[07:00:18] <Splarka>	...
[07:00:25] <Splarka>	oh_so_ethical: <Splarka> as a test, mind you
[07:00:37] <oh_so_ethical>	:O
[07:00:42] <Splarka>	you want our help or you wanna say our debugging is stupid? pick one
[07:00:45] <oh_so_ethical>	Splarka, no, I'm just commenting on the setup ;)
[07:00:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:CreateAccount does not respect " Prevent account creation" from Special:BlockIP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14698  (10dev)
[07:00:52] <Splarka>	heh
[07:01:05] <oh_so_ethical>	ie, they should just enable editing via the api :D
[07:01:07] *Splarka 	offers tim brownies and cookies and ... beans
[07:01:13] *oh_so_ethical 	tells bean to enable write via the api
[07:01:28] <Splarka>	erm
[07:01:34] <Splarka>	it does work, and has worked
[07:01:44] <G>	Anyone want to check out my patch to 14698?
[07:01:44] <Splarka>	but you claim your API, with edit disabled, is not accepting your token, right?
[07:01:52] <Splarka>	er, edit enabled
[07:02:24] <oh_so_ethical>	Splarka, I'm gonna check it out w index...
[07:02:32] <Splarka>	tim: that was a sexy patch, if it sticks!
[07:03:32] *G 	goes and grabs some food
[07:04:25] <CIA-54>	03tstarling * r37233 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.class.php FlaggedRevs.php): Fix parser test breakage
[07:05:05] <Splarka>	oh_so_ethical: the most likely thing in my mind is some error in the way you're submitting it, either corrupting the token, or sending it via GET instead of POST. Also possible is the API being silly and returning an error unrelated to the actual error (which is possible...sometimes)
[07:05:42] <Splarka>	note that the edit tokens contain syntax to make them fragile to corruption (that plus and slash thing), for a certain type of open proxy that has been abused in the past by vandals
[07:11:08] <CIA-54>	03tstarling * r37234 10/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Bug 14710: move the "donate" links in the default sidebar to an extension. Ideally needs some more message file wrangling to remove unused messages, but will work as-is.
[07:12:50] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) "Donate" link in sidebar of non-Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14710  +comment (10tstarling)
[07:20:38] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Sidebar doesn't exist in Nostalgia skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10794  +comment (10tstarling)
[07:25:31] <Splarka>	btw SQL: am getting 'null' edit tokens occasionally, yes
[07:25:39] <Splarka>	so who broked it
[07:26:37] <SQLDb>	Splarka: no idea, I can't figure out where the issue is
[07:26:55] <SQLDb>	and, I had to take my pain meds a bit ago, so, I'm going to become increasingly useless :P
[07:27:22] <SQLDb>	especially frustrating is that it's intermittent, with no noticeable change to the environment
[07:29:12] <Splarka>	http://p.defau.lt/?73LVeoZXbzJLCOwu4GCvvw
[07:29:44] <SQLDb>	Splarka: iirc it's.... random, from my sampling
[07:30:28] <bean>	what's the URL?
[07:30:35] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?format=jsonfm&action=query&prop=revisions&rvtoken=rollback&titles=Foo&forceprofile=true
[07:30:37] <Splarka>	I was using that
[07:31:01] <Splarka>	the jsonfm wraps better and the forceprofile=true just looks cool, but aren't needed
[07:31:15] <Splarka>	gives 'null' about 1/3 of the time
[07:31:59] <SQLDb>	Splarka: my random sampling was close to 65%, Cobi saw about 50%, and, another observer say just north of 50%
[07:32:02] <SQLDb>	*saw
[07:32:54] <Splarka>	very random, how about the "served by"? any collusion there?
[07:33:54] <SQLDb>	Splarka: have you tried it on a local wiki come to think of it? I haven't
[07:34:17] *Splarka 	shakes head
[07:34:56] <SQLDb>	tested on my localhost wiki :P
[07:35:03] <SQLDb>	I can get the token 100% of the time
[07:35:03] <Splarka>	hmm, the forceprofiles are identical except dbconnect
[07:35:37] <SQLDb>	out of ~30 tries now
[07:35:39] <Splarka>	(and times of course)
[07:35:57] <SQLDb>	so, it's some sort of wmf server issue
[07:36:00] *SQLDb 	is losing it tho
[07:37:48] <Splarka>	got a null from: <!-- 0.000854      1 - dbconnect-10.0.0.242
[07:38:29] <Splarka>	same for a .243, dead end!
[07:38:37] <SQLDb>	odd
[07:38:50] <Nikerabbit>	morning
[07:38:50] <SQLDb>	Splarka: could it be a squid issue then?
[07:38:58] <SQLDb>	hiya Nikerabbit :)
[07:39:05] <Splarka>	no idea, ask the bean!
[07:39:08] <SQLDb>	lolz
[07:44:08] <bean>	http://p.defau.lt/?EwLoTei28Ll6_N4GOEKDng
[07:44:44] <CIA-54>	03siebrand * r37235 10/trunk/extensions/GroupPermissionsManager/GroupPermissionsManager.i18n.php: Link special page in descriptionmsg
[07:45:10] <SQLDb>	bean: odd
[07:45:50] <Splarka>	iiiiiiihntaressting
[07:45:59] <bean>	doesn't look odd to me, it looks pretty obvious
[07:46:16] <SQLDb>	dunno, I'm really not all with it right now :P
[07:46:37] <Christope>	Hello
[07:46:45] <SQLDb>	Christope: hi! :)
[07:46:45] <bean>	it's failing on the PHP 5.1.x servers
[07:46:47] <Christope>	For some odd reason, I find myself stuck installing wiki
[07:48:08] <SQLDb>	bean: ahh, I kinda assumed all the servers ran the same version of everything :)
[07:48:40] <Christope>	oh, I take it php5.0 is needed?
[07:49:36] <SQLDb>	Christope: what's the problem you're running into?
[07:49:47] <Christope>	"PHP 5.0.0 or higher is required. If PHP 5 is available only when PHP files have a .php5 extension, please navigate to index.php5 to continue installation. ABORTING."
[07:49:49] <Christope>	:p
[07:49:51] <Christope>	:(
[07:54:33] <CIA-54>	03siebrand * r37236 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
[07:54:33] <CIA-54>	Localisation updates. Reduce use of capitals.
[07:54:33] <CIA-54>	No translation updates needed.
[07:57:36] <CIA-54>	03tstarling * r37237 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryRevisions.php: Fix silent failure in PHP 5.1.x or older. The callback for static functions is array('class', 'method').
[07:58:22] <bean>	bbl
[08:00:01] <Dor>	what do I edit to set my own css stuff for the site?
[08:00:15] <Dor>	User:MYNAME/Common.css?
[08:00:18] <SQLDb>	bean: seems to have fixed it :)
[08:01:10] <Dor>	!css
[08:01:10] --mwbot--	To change styles for your wiki, go to one of the MediaWiki:xxx.css wiki page and put your custom styles there (sysop/admin rights required). MediaWiki:common.css is for all skins and should be used for content styles. MediaWiki:monobook.css is for the MonoBook skin (default), etc. For more information, see !skins and <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skin_configuration>
[08:06:22] <CIA-54>	03nikerabbit * r37238 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialUserlogin.php: * Cleanup for r37209, which broke grammar while fixing double parsing
[08:09:48] <Dor>	if I edit User:MYNAME/Common.css
[08:09:53] <Dor>	will it do anything?
[08:10:00] <G>	I don't think so
[08:10:02] <Splarka>	nope
[08:10:09] <G>	you nede to edit Skin.css
[08:10:15] <Splarka>	er
[08:10:17] <Splarka>	lowercase too
[08:10:18] <G>	where skin is Monobook/Modern
[08:10:29] <Splarka>	[[Special:Mypage/monobook.css]]
[08:10:36] <Dor>	yeah I tried
[08:10:44] <Dor>	it doesn't add new classes
[08:10:46] <Dor>	I mean
[08:10:48] <Dor>	I write the class
[08:10:58] <Dor>	and it doesn't have any effect
[08:11:24] <Splarka>	user/common.css (and js) is not loaded, for several reasons, an important one being if you screw up your main skin one, you can change to another skin to fix it
[08:12:09] <Dor>	I didn't do anything but adding some classes that I need
[08:12:25] <Splarka>	I wasn't accusing you
[08:12:33] <Splarka>	just explaining why users don't get a common.css
[08:12:48] <Splarka>	what is your username and current skin?
[08:13:38] <Dor>	Dor
[08:13:40] <Dor>	monobook
[08:13:43] <Dor>	and I tried to edit
[08:13:52] <Dor>	User:Dor/monobook.css
[08:14:28] <Splarka>	cleared cache?
[08:14:43] <Dor>	yup
[08:15:06] <Splarka>	$wgAllowUserCss = true;  ?
[08:15:31] <Dor>	I believe it is
[08:15:34] <Dor>	I'll check
[08:15:45] <Splarka>	view a page source, check the main <script> with 3 or 4 @imports
[08:15:51] <Splarka>	er <style>
[08:16:23] <Dor>	nope
[08:16:25] <Splarka>	should be one for MediaWiki:Common.css, one for Monobook.css, one for gen=css
[08:16:33] <Dor>	$wgAllowUserCss isn't there
[08:16:51] <Splarka>	if not one for User:Dor/monobook.css then, you need $wgAllowUserCss enabled via your localsettings
[08:54:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Request editcount for rvprop in prop=revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14746  +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[08:54:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) User generators - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14027  (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[08:56:45] <Dor>	I want to write a bot
[08:57:02] <Dor>	what is the syntax of the POST to send info to the server?
[08:58:28] <Werdna>	Dor: Just use a network sniffer or view the HTML source of the edit form.
[08:58:39] <Werdna>	Although, maybe write API is enabled
[08:59:03] <Dor>	I write the socket directly
[08:59:20] <Dor>	I need to know how the POST is written exactly
[08:59:38] <Dor>	afaik sniffers only give me the header and not hte full content/
[09:00:25] <Werdna>	Why write directly to the socket?
[09:00:31] <Werdna>	Isn't that what HTTP libraries are for?
[09:02:07] <Splarka>	you want Method: POST (url) HTTP/1.1, Content-type: probably application/x-www-form-urlencoded, send Content-length and Connection: close... 
[09:02:33] <Werdna>	Splarka: what weird kind of HTTP is that?
[09:02:43] <Splarka>	and send the content in a POST as urlencoded parameters
[09:03:42] <Splarka>	like for an edit: wpSummary=foo%20bar&wpStartime=123456&wpEdittime=123456&wpTextbox1=foo%20bar%20baz
[09:03:50] <Werdna>	POST /w/index.php HTTP/1.1\r\n Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded\r\nContent-length: (length)\r\nUser-Agent: Some user-agent string\r\n\r\nData, url-encoded as Splarka suggests.
[09:04:00] <Werdna>	Splarka: your HTTP standard doesn't require a User-Agent?
[09:04:01] <Splarka>	the icky raw stuff
[09:04:08] <Splarka>	(note that if API write is enabled, you send it to the api.php, rather than index.php, obviously)
[09:04:35] <Werdna>	Dor: But seriously, use a library.
[09:04:38] <Splarka>	I am assuming he knows at *least* how to do that much!
[09:05:08] <Splarka>	Werd: most people have probs getting the content-type right, doing shit like this
[09:05:28] <Werdna>	Splarka: Actually, my repeated problem is User-Agent
[09:05:31] <Splarka>	(although Wikimedia does block odd/missing useragents...)
[09:05:45] <Splarka>	Werdna: also, you're being a bit too specific
[09:05:49] <Splarka>	POST /w/index.php HTTP/1.1
[09:05:54] <Splarka>	that assumes scriptpath is /w/
[09:05:57] <Splarka>	which is not always the case
[09:06:17] <Werdna>	Splarka: I'm assuming the user is writing a bot for Wikipedia.
[09:06:27] <Splarka>	ahh
[09:06:30] <Nikerabbit>	hello
[09:06:31] <Splarka>	well there is yourp rob
[09:06:43] <Splarka>	they've been here for days asking for help on their own install ^_^
[09:07:02] <Dor>	Splarka, how do I send line breakes etc?
[09:07:17] <Nikerabbit>	awww
[09:07:20] <Werdna>	well I've been off in New Caledonia soaking up the sun and being accosted by topless french girls, so I think the problem lies with you.
[09:07:25] <Werdna>	Dor: url-encode them.
[09:07:25] <G>	btw, is the write API enabled for WP?
[09:07:28] <Nikerabbit>	didn't someone just say to use library..
[09:07:30] <Splarka>	Dor: see werd's example!
[09:07:41] <Splarka>	learn about basic HTTP before attempting this
[09:07:48] <Splarka>	Ahahahaha: http://xkcd.com/446/
[09:07:48] <Splarka>	win
[09:08:15] <Splarka>	Werd: go back to them then, mediawiki and POST are serious business!
[09:08:15] <Dor>	I wrote many sockets
[09:08:23] <Dor>	I'm just not very good with POST -.-
[09:09:02] <Splarka>	well, then
[09:09:25] <Splarka>	you want to send Content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded most likely, and urlencode the POST data
[09:09:36] <Splarka>	and, even werdna is useful sometimes, send a user agent describing your bot!
[09:09:40] *Splarka 	hides ^_^
[09:10:07] <G>	Splarka: heh thats a good one! (xkcd)
[09:10:19] <Dor>	but how do I urlencode line breakes?!
[09:11:04] <Dor>	%0D?
[09:13:12] <Splarka>	Dor: what language are you writing this in?
[09:13:20] <Dor>	mIRC :)
[09:13:34] *Splarka 	shivers
[09:13:37] <Dor>	not a very complicated bot
[09:13:48] <Dor>	search for pages with a specific string in them
[09:13:55] <Dor>	and add a category in the end of the page
[09:14:10] <Splarka>	(although I have written a urlencode function for mIRC before, icky)
[09:14:47] <G>	hmmm Auto-category bots can be annoying, mainly depends on their accuracy
[09:14:48] <Werdna>	Why on Earth are youw riting it in mIRC?
[09:15:05] <Dor>	Werdna, it's my best language
[09:15:51] <Dor>	!bot
[09:15:51] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "bot". You might try: !access !botbrain !chanspam !help !mwbot !rcbot !rights !userrights 
[09:15:59] <VasilievVV>	Dor: migrate to PHP/Python/Perl/C/C#
[09:16:19] <Dor>	:)
[09:16:32] <Werdna>	Dor: Don't write it in mIRC. Seriously.
[09:16:33] <Splarka>	<form action="http://www.google.com/search" method="GET"><textarea name="q">

[09:16:58] put that in a local html, and it will URLencode any input you give it [09:17:39] Splarka: you closed with div not form :) [09:18:04] *Splarka blinks, did, heh [09:18:11] replace with , bah [09:19:24] it doesn't encode spaces [09:19:31] or if yya wanna get fancy: [09:19:31] but I'll manage [09:19:33] [09:19:55] well, it turns spaces into + [09:20:16] yes [09:20:23] %3CDor%3E%20but%20I'll%20manage [09:20:24] the second one is better [09:20:37] just a wrapper for encodeURIComponent() [09:20:43] :D [09:20:50] if you wanna do the same in mIRC... [09:20:54] http://p.defau.lt/?1vsVNFnJV72Lz37FaG6LiA this does something similar [09:21:06] I already have one for IRC [09:21:14] but it can't encode line breaks [09:21:24] because all commands are only one lines [09:21:30] mIRC* [09:22:05] works for me, you mean you can't input line breaks? [09:22:18] true [09:22:19] $chr(13) $+ $chr(10) (windows linebreak) [09:22:25] I know [09:22:29] mIRC also have $crlf [09:22:29] *Splarka shrugs [09:22:36] which is the same only shorter [09:22:47] $crlf = $chr(13) $+ $chr(10) [09:23:38] *Splarka nods [09:23:43] 03(mod) Use wfDebugLog instead of wfDebug by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14601 +comment (10dev) [09:25:34] okay [09:25:48] now all that's left is to fully understand the POST syntax [09:25:51] and then we're done [09:26:03] nut [09:32:40] 03(mod) Image move/rename doesn't work on live Wikimedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14745 (10Bryan.TongMinh) [09:35:54] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wood&oldid=224066992#Wood_in_Popular_Culture [09:38:39] 03btongminh * r37239 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/LocalFile.php: Remove the thumb moving coding all together since thumbs are purged anyway. This should also fix bug 14745. [09:40:13] 03(NEW) Bad extension URL for the ParserFunctions extension in Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14747 trivial; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; (emmanuel) [09:44:52] Splarka: heh [09:47:33] hallo, kann mir vielleicht einer sagen, wie ich mit dem wiki-code ein externes bild extern verlinke? als html würde das so aussehen:

english please .... [09:49:29] hello, can anyone help me? I try to set a image as a hyperlink to an external website, no linking to the full image size [09:50:06] !imagelink [09:50:06] --mwbot-- Image linking is intentionally not supported in MediaWiki, so access to the image's description page is always available. If you need image links, see for methods and information. One way to achieve this is . [09:50:29] Extension:Click also does it [09:50:32] note that most of the extensions mentioned there won't work for your purposes, unless you add the external website to your interwikis [09:50:51] the laziest method is to allow "external" images, which transforms a bare image URL into a link [09:50:51] 03btongminh * r37240 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Add release notes entry for r37239: (bug 14745) Image moving works on sites that transform thumbnails via 404 [09:51:14] er, tag, not link, but you can make it a link [09:51:41] 03(FIXED) Image move/rename doesn' t work on sites that transform thumbnails via 404 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14745 summary; +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [09:52:55] [http://www.wikipedia.org http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/Wiki.png] [09:53:03] for example [09:53:11] Splarka can you give me an concretly example? [09:53:12] code [09:55:21] thx Splarka [09:56:09] dieter86: you have to set $wgAllowExternalImages = true; for that though [09:57:57] Splarka the image isn't external, only the hyperlink [09:58:20] hey, don't blame me, I didn't write the code [09:58:27] but if you don't want to install an extension, this is the way to do it [09:58:29] hum [09:58:54] you need an "external" image (it can be local, just not internal), as opposed to an [[Image:]] tag (internal) [09:59:13] there are other ways to do it, like with site css, which is good if you just need to do one of these, rather than a lot [09:59:26] ah okay [09:59:35] do you need just one, or a lot? [09:59:36] hi [09:59:48] one, two [10:00:03] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Linked_images#Site_CSS [10:00:42] you define a class with a background-image: in Common.css (background-image is blocked from inline css) [10:00:50] and then you put an external link inside that class [10:00:55] Splarka I don't like the html output of this methode [10:01:15] what HTML do you desire? [10:01:17] it's important, that the link is good for search engines [10:01:43] [10:01:54] jup [10:02:05] with the alt tag [10:02:15] uhm [10:02:17] attribute [10:02:48] you'll probably have to write a custom extension then, adding a parser hook [10:03:18] I don't want this.. :/ [10:04:48] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Tag_extensions [10:05:47] this is to complex for my client but thanks for all.. this was help me [10:06:05] well, you could enable raw html, but that is insecure! [10:06:13] yes [10:06:50] okay [10:06:54] internet explorer crashing codes and so on *lol* [10:06:57] if you are willing to install one simple pre-existing extension [10:07:50] you can use the Click, Icon, or Imagemap extension to do this, but you have to register the external URL as an interwiki link [10:08:08] for example: [10:08:08] [10:08:08] Image:Foo.jpg|200px|picture of a foo [10:08:09] default [[mw:foo]] [10:08:11] [10:08:27] mw: directs to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/$1 where $1 is replaced with foo there [10:09:06] the html is: [10:09:07]

[10:09:23] for example [10:09:28] hmhm [10:09:53] is it possible to have logs that are not shown in special:logs? [10:10:09] where would they be shown? just recent changes? [10:10:27] 14(INVALID) Detecting wrong PHPVersion on amd64 Linux. Aborting... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14641 +comment (10genkitek) [10:10:28] nowhere? [10:10:30] or watchlist/contribs? [10:10:39] just for storing log data for further use [10:10:41] heh, well checkuser/oversight logs do that [10:11:26] on another thought, maybe I just write those to a file [10:11:34] lazy! [10:12:09] Splarka: yeah, and performance [10:15:42] 03siebrand * r37241 10/trunk/extensions/ (70 files in 63 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-07-07 11:59 CEST) [10:27:43] 03siebrand * r37242 10/trunk/phase3/ (67 files in 3 dirs): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-07-07 11:59 CEST) [10:37:30] 03(mod) Request editcount for rvprop in prop=revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14746 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [10:45:29] 03(mod) [tables] Please implement COL, COLGROUP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=986 +comment (10happy_melon) [10:47:36] Hello [10:48:06] I need help with my wiki installation [10:48:21] somebody to help me? [10:48:57] Aidum, ask [10:49:47] i'm installing it (v 1.12.0) and i have a error with mysql failed with error code "You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'TYPE=InnoDB' at line 20 (localhost)". [10:49:56] i cheched it in the FAQ [10:50:02] and change tables.sql [10:50:08] but nothing [10:51:50] somebody knowk what's the problem? [11:00:34] 03nikerabbit * r37243 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * Plural for delete-toobig and delete-warning-toobig [11:01:46] i'm installing it (v 1.12.0) and i have a error with mysql failed with error code "You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'TYPE=InnoDB' at line 20 (localhost)". Somebody know the solutions. I try changed tables.sql script but nothing [11:01:57] please help [11:02:40] Aidum, there is no need to ask a question twice, we all see it first time [11:02:53] just wait and someone will respon as soon as possible [11:02:54] soory [11:03:09] someone who knows how to solve your problem [11:05:47] Aidum: what version of mysql are you using? [11:06:47] mysql 6.0.4-alpha [11:07:26] I'd recommend running against mysql 5.x until Mediawiki starts saying that mysql 6 is supported [11:10:14] Aidum: on the other hand, you could try selecting MyISAM instead of innodb [11:10:29] 03raymond * r37244 10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMessages/ (WikimediaMessages.i18n.php WikimediaMessages.php): [11:10:29] * Add extension credits and description message [11:10:29] * Add a comment to 'sitesupport-url'. Should be ignored by, at least optional for Betawiki [11:10:29] * Add the URL of the German donation page [11:11:02] Aidum: of course, if you do that, take heed of the warning on the setup page, specifically: "InnoDB is best for public web installations, since it has good concurrency support. MyISAM may be faster in single-user installations. MyISAM databases tend to get corrupted more often than InnoDB databases. " [11:11:07] InnoDB [11:11:35] 03(NEW) Enable Portal namespace on Hungarian Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14748 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (gondnok345) [11:13:07] i try with MyISAM and doesn't run [11:13:40] 03(mod) Enable Portal namespace on Hungarian Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14748 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [11:14:23] in that case, my original reply still stands, you should definately consider installing a mysql 5.x server somewhere, as I'm pretty sure we don't support MySQL 6 [11:14:32] someone might be able to clarify though [11:15:57] 03(mod) Enable Portal namespace on Hungarian Wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14748 -shell (10gondnok345) [11:16:19] 03(mod) Enable Portal namespace on Hungarian Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14748 +shell (10gondnok345) [11:21:56] I must confess, I didn't even know the mysql folks were working on a mysql6 atm :) [11:50:36] Hi there! [11:52:38] I have a question regarding external Links. Links work for HTTP://, FTP:// and IRC://. But how do I get for example an HLSW:// - Link to work? (in my own wiki) [11:57:01] !protocols [11:57:01] --mwbot-- To allow additional protocols (prefixes) for urls ("free links"), see [12:00:05] Thank you very much, Overlord! I would never have found that one. [12:31:06] 03siebrand * r37245 10/trunk/extensions/ (129 files in 121 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki [12:33:42] 03(WONTFIX) Allow multiple categories for categorymembers list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14425 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [12:36:07] 03(WONTFIX) Parse Renderer needs to allow base url specification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14598 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [12:39:32] 03(mod) Timestamp parameters and fields do not support ISO 8601 fully - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14449 summary; +comment (10roan.kattouw) [12:48:22] 03catrope * r37246 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryAllLinks.php: API: Add description for alcontinue parameter [12:50:09] 03shinjiman * r37247 10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMessages/WikimediaMessages.i18n.php: Localisation updates Cantonese and Chinese for extension messages [12:50:43] *^demon facepalms. [12:50:58] <^demon> When testing something with wgMemc, helps to have caching not set to CACHE_NONE. [12:51:31] ^demon: ohh you can have a look at the patch I submitted to BZ? let me get the bug id [12:51:44] <^demon> Sure. [12:52:32] 14698 [12:52:51] the BlockIP w/o Prevent Account Creation still blocks account creation bug [12:53:02] by the way, is there a way to edit localsettings.php from within the wiki, or do you need to edit it and upload every time? [12:53:28] DanielTahar1: edit and upload [12:53:31] k [12:53:33] 03siebrand * r37248 10/trunk/extensions/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki [12:53:55] ^demon: thanks a lot btw [12:53:57] how do I disable all namespaces aside of main? [12:54:02] *Sasa^Stefanovic off [12:54:27] DanielTahar1: there is no real way to disable them, because they are hardcoded for various functions [12:54:40] <^demon> G: Looking, give me a moment. [12:54:50] ok, is there a way to block users from adding data into any other namespace? [12:55:10] !mw-bot [12:55:10] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "mw-bot". [12:55:15] !mwbot [12:55:15] --mwbot-- Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot, you can find all my source code at http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn [12:55:31] argh, DanielTahar1 you'd have to use an extension to do that [12:56:02] 03demon * r37249 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialVersion.php: Cache the SVN version so we're not doing a filesystem read every time Special:Version (or APIQuerySiteInfo) asks for it. [12:56:02] !access | DanielTahar1 [12:56:02] --mwbot-- DanielTahar1: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [12:56:07] *Duesentrieb pokes mwbot [12:56:12] wth? [12:56:12] Duesentrieb: thanks, I need to learn those :) [12:56:28] ok. last question for now. is there a way to add the toolbar, or any other formatting function, using CSS? the fields i'm using (textarea, for instance) are generated using the semantic forms extension, which doesn't have that option "built-in". I can, however, assign a CSS to the textarea element. [12:56:29] !dump | G [12:56:29] --mwbot-- G: For information on how to get dumps from Wikimedia Wikis, see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps [12:56:39] damn, that's not what i meant :) [12:56:41] Duesentrieb: nah I got it now :) [12:56:56] it's botbrain btw :0 [12:57:12] !botbrain [12:57:12] --mwbot-- http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html [12:57:12] yea. [12:57:23] DanielTahar1: HNP/Lockdown would most likely suit your needs from experience [12:57:25] i though "dump" was short for that. oh wait, it is. [12:57:27] @dump [12:57:27] --mwbot-- A dump is now available at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html [12:57:32] damn meta-functions :) [12:59:05] heh, I love !worstcase :) [12:59:45] how do i add a subtitle, like "from wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"? tried $wgExtraSubtitle and also mediawiki:sitesubtitle, no good [13:03:54] <^demon> G: It works. Still feels hacky though. [13:04:21] ^demon: it's the exact same 'hack' 5-or-so lines above [13:05:13] <^demon> True. [13:05:22] <^demon> Blah, I'll probably get reverted. :-P [13:05:56] it works, and should work consistantly [13:07:56] <^demon> As a thought: If we're already checking blocked from account creation, is there any reason why getUserPermissionErrors should even be checked? [13:08:15] 03catrope * r37250 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryLinks.php: Killing filesort in prop={links,templatelinks} when {pl,tl}namespace isn't set. [13:08:25] yeah, because as I think I said in my comment, I may have disabled anonymous account creation [13:08:33] <^demon> True. [13:08:43] something that Fedora Project do for instance [13:08:47] how do I add a "TM" mark in wiki [13:08:55] (mainly because we use HTTP Auth :) [13:09:43] &trademark; maybe [13:10:26] ^demon: getUserPermissionsErrors should ideally be called any time permissions are checked. [13:10:38] nope [13:11:12] i can just add the character from charmap, but is that the correct way? [13:12:07] Werdna: exactly [13:12:22] DanielTahar1: it should just work [13:12:51] 03demon * r37251 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: Don't check block errors on account creation, we already explicitly check it earlier in UserLogin and checking it here is rather annoying (causes "Block Account Creation" to break). [13:13:20] there isn't a correct or wrong way to add the TM mark [13:13:28] ^demon: That's a huge hack. The correct way to fix that is to remove the check in UserLogin. [13:13:34] <^demon> Which is what I said. [13:13:49] *^demon goes to fix it properly. [13:14:20] About my problem with mysql 6 [13:14:40] i try it with 5.0.4 and run [13:14:43] ^demon: No, remove the block check in UserLogin. [13:14:52] not the getUserPermissionsErrors check. [13:15:31] uhm isn't checking if a user is blocked required in user login not just for block account creation, but for when an account is blocked normally? [13:15:41] Werdna: thats just going to create an even bigger hack, the one in UserLogin is explicitly checking if they are blocked for account creation [13:15:48] Correct. [13:15:51] That's why we should remove that. [13:16:10] Ideally, we would block per-permission. [13:16:16] As part of an evil plan I came up with.. [13:16:24] how do i change the default background image from monobook [13:16:26] <^demon> Werdna: I opened a bug about a rewrite of Blocking. [13:16:42] ^demon: I commented on that, with a few notes from my own planning which I did ages ago. [13:17:18] <^demon> Ah, I missed that :-) [13:17:58] Ideally, I'd like to merge the functionality of blocking and protection, to a unified, flexible access control system. [13:18:29] WHich allows matching on permissions, usernames, IP addresses, page titles. [13:18:37] But the performance impact is quite nasty. [13:18:45] well blocking and removing the right from Userrights, would be equivalent technically, someone was talking the other day about having some kind of expire time for userrights so maybe combine both into one thing [13:19:01] And the Blocking system is written to expect one-block-per-session. [13:19:09] darkcode: You've never used Userrights, have you? [13:19:10] allow rights to be enabled for a time frame or disabled for a time frame [13:19:25] Userrights doesn't allow you to revoke the 'edit' permission./ [13:19:54] <^demon> Nor should they be combined. Blocking should be per-role, but userrights is per-group. [13:19:59] I know that, but blocking is just removing the edit permission, could be part of the Userrights [13:20:23] 03(mod) [tables] Please implement COL, COLGROUP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=986 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [13:20:25] Although, one other thing I've been meaning to do is implement local right-changing in the same way that I did global groups. [13:20:38] darkcode: right, but your not going to give sysop premissions to a whole netblock I don't think [13:20:40] I was very proud of my work on global groups, particularly the 'changing online' bit. [13:21:05] hello, what's the variable in MW for the article's title? [13:21:10] $wgTitle. [13:21:15] <^demon> Be back in a moment, folks. [13:21:16] thanks [13:21:33] Isb1009, note that that's a Title object, not a string. [13:21:48] and Werdna was talking about blocking per right, which would be equivalent to removing the permission from if it were in Userrights [13:22:05] darkcode: Userrights doesn't remove permissions, it removes groups. [13:22:08] And groups have permissions. [13:23:46] ya that's true, hmm maybe Userrights needs to be renamed to Usergroups, and then have Userrights do the individual rights, since that is what the name implies [13:24:25] I don't think there's a link between user permissions and blocking. I understand where you're coming from, but fundamentally, they're different ideas. [13:24:46] And their uses, intuitively, are distinct enough to justify different systems. [13:25:51] Simetrical: I see, it doesn't work. So, what's the string for the title? [13:25:58] 03(mod) [tables] Please implement COL, COLGROUP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=986 (10happy_melon) [13:26:52] Isb1009, $wgTitle->getPrefixedText() or $wgTitle->getPrefixedDBKey() or variants on that, depending on what exactly you want. Probably one of those two is correct. You can look in includes/Title.php for more methods. [13:26:59] maybe you mean {{PAGENAME}} if your preferring to its name in wiki text [13:27:06] Isb1009, $wgTitle is a global, so remember to declare it as such if you're not using it in global scope. [13:27:27] And yeah, clarify if you're talking about PHP code or wiki text here. [13:27:42] I'm talking about php [13:27:50] then you need to declare it [13:27:54] global $wgTitle; [13:27:55] Okay, then what I said is probably what you want. [13:28:15] thanks, I'll try if it works [13:29:26] "svn: Target lists to diff may not contain both working copy paths and URLs" [13:29:28] Why the heck not? [13:32:46] try using --old=URL --new=. [13:33:41] I just gave the URL of the repo. My working copy was clean anyway. [13:42:44] 03(NEW) Create mailing list for the board of Wikimedia Norway - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14749 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (jhsoby) [13:46:12] Simetrical: The thing is I want to use the title inside another string and, because of that, what you told me doesn't work [13:46:28] Isb1009, you can use string concatenation . . . [13:46:48] Simetrical: I'll see... [13:48:05] 03mkroetzsch * r37252 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (2 files in 2 dirs): enable RDF export to be restricted to new concept pages or to categories and concepts ("classes") [13:48:22] 04(REOPENED) Print stylesheet should be explicitly editable (e.g. MediaWiki: Print.css) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2889 +comment (10AlexSm) [13:50:04] Simetrical: I get an error ("Fatal error: Call to a member function getPrefixedText() on a non-object in[...]") [13:50:26] Isb1009, did you use global $wgTitle; before calling it? Where is your code being executed? [13:51:03] Don't try to use globals in LocalSettings.php or anything executed directly after inclusion in LocalSettings.php. This is very early in the startup process and globals mostly aren't set at that point. [13:51:18] You have to use them inside functions that are run from hooks. [13:51:24] Ok [13:51:31] That was the problem [13:51:44] 03(mod) [tables] Please implement COL, COLGROUP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=986 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [13:51:48] I was inside LocalSettings.php [13:52:41] 03(mod) Correcting edit summaries (if own, last, & recent) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13937 (10huji.huji) [13:53:06] Yeah, that won't work. That's run near the beginning. Otherwise hooks wouldn't have a chance to affect initialization. [13:53:34] <^demon> Simetrical: I can revert the cache of the svn revision. I was thinking about it due to brion's comment on adding the svn version to the generator tag (not wanting a FS read on each pageload). [13:54:16] ^demon, oh, I didn't see that. [13:54:29] Yes, that might be a problem, of course, if it were on every page load. [13:54:46] I'd still be leery of caching it for an hour indiscriminately. [13:55:16] In practice, though, if a single disk block gets hit on every load, it will always be in the OS cache. [13:55:43] I'm not sure it's a big deal, shouldn't be more than a microsecond or two. [13:55:48] Less time than memcached, in fact. [13:55:56] 03(mod) [tables] Please implement COL, COLGROUP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=986 (10happy_melon) [13:58:50] hi [13:58:53] <^demon> Simetrical: I'll rvt. One moment. [13:59:16] i am having problems with latex installation [13:59:36] I followed instructions in ./math/README [14:00:15] but still get an error when trying to visualize a latex formula: [14:00:17] No se pudo entender (No se puede escribir o crear el directorio temporal de math): [14:00:22] (sorry, in spanish) [14:00:30] 03demon * r37253 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialVersion.php: Remove cached svn version in r37249. Likely to be slower. [14:01:13] it says that math temp folder cannot be written or created [14:01:45] i created manually ./images/math [14:01:54] and chmoded to 777 [14:02:09] but still not working [14:02:12] any idea? [14:02:35] edmont: that's not the temp folder [14:02:47] edmont: check the upload path used by php internally [14:02:50] mmm ok [14:02:51] ^demon: does your r37251 fix bug 14698? [14:03:06] Duesentrieb: where can i check that? [14:03:17] in your php.ini, or by calling phpinfo [14:03:48] edmont: also check images/temp [14:04:14] edmont: also check which permissions directory have that get created automatically under image/math, image/temp, etc [14:04:15] Duesentrieb: already did [14:04:49] hm... coming to think of it, the php upload dir is probably only relevant for uploads, not math [14:05:14] 03(mod) [tables] Please implement COL, COLGROUP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=986 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [14:05:22] $ ls -l temp/ [14:05:22] total 0 [14:05:22] drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 96 2008-06-24 16:23 3 [14:05:22] drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2008-06-24 16:23 8 [14:06:08] hi, i am having issues upgrading from 1.10.0 to 1.11.2 with postgres from 8.2 to 8.3. can anyone help? [14:06:29] edmont: why are they owned by root? [14:06:29] (please) :) [14:07:00] andrewcooke: please say what exactly the issue is. though few people know much about the PG backend, i'm afraid [14:07:03] Duesentrieb: i dont know, but the rest of the wiki is working ok [14:07:26] edmont: that doesn't man much. [14:07:29] temp directory is not defined in php.ini [14:07:32] the root bit looks suspicious [14:07:39] other than that, i really don't know, sorry [14:07:40] ok - th eproblem is that i see the following error in logs: [14:07:53] [Mon Jul 07 09:53:38 2008] [error] [client 10.2.0.250] PHP Notice: unserialize(): Error at offset 0 of 349 bytes in /srv/www/htdocs/mediawiki/includes/BagOStuff.php on line 392, referer: https://acooke.dyndns.org:4443/mediawiki/index.php?title=ISTI_Diary/2008/07/05&action=edit [14:07:58] also [14:08:06] what means that it uses 7tmp [14:08:06] [Mon Jul 07 09:53:38 2008] [error] [client 10.2.0.250] PHP Warning: pg_query(): Query failed: ERROR: text search configuration "default" does not exist\nCONTEXT: PL/pgSQL function "ts2_page_title" line 3 at assignment in /srv/www/htdocs/mediawiki/includes/DatabasePostgres.php on line 506, referer: https://acooke.dyndns.org:4443/mediawiki/index.php?title=ISTI_Diary/2008/07/05&action=edit [14:08:12] /tmp [14:08:28] i think they are both related to the changes in postgres text search [14:09:07] Duesentrieb: would you pass ownership to www-data? [14:09:32] edmont: yes, well - why is any root action involved anyway? root should not do anything here. [14:09:57] running stuff as root is always a risk. [14:10:20] is there any way to categorize a system message - i need some way to organized them all... [14:10:49] [[Category:SomeCat]] doesn't get removed when you use with wfMsg [14:10:56] Duesentrieb: well, done but latex still not working [14:11:27] install all the requirements? [14:11:42] 03(mod) [tables] Please implement COL, COLGROUP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=986 (10happy_melon) [14:14:34] 03(mod) section is transcluded when used by system messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4926 (10jlerner) [14:14:48] 03jojo * r37254 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: replace wfMsg() by wfMsgForContent() when appropriate [14:15:39] 03(mod) [tables] Please implement COL, COLGROUP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=986 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [14:27:36] ^demon: why did you revert 37249? [14:39:08] 03grondin * r37255 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Adding Wikimedia Messages into Translate extension features [14:43:50] 03nicdumz * r37256 10/branches/category-redirects/ (7 files in 3 dirs): [14:43:50] Implementing category moves when target category exists : [14:43:50] * Changing CategoryMoveJob to use the _target_ title as job_title [14:43:50] * adding two messages : 'cantmove-cat-notempty' & 'cantmove-cat-pendingjobs' [14:43:58] hurray ^ :) [14:44:03] <^demon> VasilievVV: Simetrical informed me that it was probably highly useless. [14:45:24] and by the way Simetrical, no, I wasn't planning to use cat_count, but I really didnt think of these "select 1 where... limit 1". Again, thanks :) [14:46:05] 03vrandezo * r37257 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_QP_GoogleChart.php: Query results printer using Google Chart API [14:48:53] 03catrope * r37258 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryAllLinks.php: [14:48:53] API list=alllinks: [14:48:53] * Make paging actually work by ordering by namespace too [14:48:53] * Make paging in generator mode work by always requesting pl_title [14:49:23] 03vrandezo * r37259 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_GlobalFunctions.php: Autoloading the new Google API call classes [14:50:52] 03siebrand * r37260 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Remove support for WikimediaMessages for now. Duplicate keys not supported and there are 3 of those. [15:05:43] mmm is there is any way to create batch of accounts automatically ? [15:11:27] NicDumZ: not as such. well, more or less. [15:11:31] !auth | NicDumZ [15:11:31] --mwbot-- NicDumZ: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin [15:14:11] Hi, I'm installing mediawiki and recognized a strange behavior: somtimes pages appear in the address bar as /wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page and somtimes as /wiki/index.php/Main_Page . Anyone knows what causes this behavior? [15:14:43] <^demon> \o/ [15:14:55] <^demon> Local thumb caching of remote API urls works :-D [15:15:08] bsm: Look at $wgArticlePath [15:21:38] <_JaVaSan> How to tell the parser to ignore a given character? I need to write '' [15:21:42] bsm, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL [15:22:42] _JaVaSan: '' [15:22:53] _JaVaSan: or use html character references [15:22:59] <_JaVaSan> Duesentrieb, thank you [15:23:02] (don't ask me what the number is for ') [15:23:14] <_JaVaSan> I would search for it =) [15:23:25] _JaVaSan: ooops. should be '' [15:23:26] <_JaVaSan> thanks again. [15:23:29] that / is important [15:24:00] <_JaVaSan> ow.. good point. [15:24:26] Anyone familar with the api.php and tokens? I've been trying to edit a page via the api (on my wiki, where I enabled editing via the api). Either it's spitting out an invalid token, or something else is broken :\ http://pastebin.com/d61832a09 [15:24:42] Hi, Is there anyway I can change the size of an external image? [15:25:02] no. [15:25:15] Oh dam! [15:25:26] No way at all? [15:25:42] sure, upload it locally. [15:26:08] or use some extension that allows you to use raw html. then you can make the browser scale it client side [15:26:15] !html [15:26:15] --mwbot-- For allowing any and all HTML, see . This is of course VERY DANGEROUS. Safer options include , and . [15:26:16] Is there anyway of enabling uploads so that only admins can use it? [15:26:23] sure [15:26:25] !rights [15:26:25] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [15:26:28] !access [15:26:28] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [15:26:35] oh, it's the same now? [15:26:41] anyway, gotta go [15:27:02] *oh_so_ethical pokes VasilievVV ^^ [15:27:59] *VasilievVV knocks oh_so_ethical :) [15:28:21] :O [15:28:29] VasilievVV, any ideas about my token problem :( [15:29:23] I have no clue :( [15:29:38] :( [15:30:27] thanks Werda, oh_so_ethical. i'm using wgArticlePath as a workaround now and will install short urls later [15:30:58] <_wooz> lo [15:31:05] *oh_so_ethical stabs Werdna to see if he knows [15:31:11] what? [15:37:02] Werdna I've been trying to edit a page via the api (on my wiki, where I enabled editing via the api). Either it's spitting out an invalid token, or something else is broken :\ http://pastebin.com/d61832a09 [15:45:13] <^demon> MZMcBride: Your emailuserfooter is live btw :-) [15:47:17] hi if I have a site of 850 users and run on a dedicated server core 2 duo, would mediawiki be able run ok? [15:48:57] 03siebrand * r37261 10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMessages/WikimediaMessages.i18n.php: More formatting fixes [15:55:04]