<?php $this->text('pagetitle') ?>

[00:00:02] <?php $this->text('pagetitle') ?> [00:00:19] looks good [00:00:40] change to what ever you want Foo bar [00:01:44] Why exactly did anyone think it was a good idea to parser-function-ize Badaccess-groups anyway? [00:01:59] Although, come to think of it, why isn't it a single {{plural}}-ized message to begin with? [00:02:01] all the others pades [00:02:02] Because we hate you. [00:02:03] pages [00:02:05] change [00:02:08] not main page [00:02:13] Probably because when I wrote the patch I didn't know about that, and neither did whoever committed it . . . [00:03:47] josh43: Was that image ment to run on VMware or MS VPC [00:03:59] Mariela: one second [00:04:48] ok [00:04:52] Simetrical: Or whoever committed it couldn't be bothered to tell you to fix it or fix it themselves :) [00:06:03] Mariela: I suggest you learn some basic php [00:06:06] Mariela: Change it to this [00:06:06] <?php if(substr($this->text('pagetitle'),0,9) != 'Main Page') echo $this->text('pagetitle'); ?> [00:06:21] ohh [00:06:23] that will give you a nice blank when you go to main page [00:06:56] I think at least, this is all untested [00:07:25] <?php if(substr($this->text('pagetitle'),0,9) != 'Main Page') echo $this->text('pagetitle'); else echo "default"?> <-- that will give you 'default' when you go to the main page. Enjoy. Back to KTOR [00:08:01] ? [00:10:12] Mariela: Hmm? I'm playing a game and tabbing back here every so often. That code will do what you want. The second one will let you change the text for the main page, the first just blanks it. [Again untested... so I think] [00:11:32] its fine [00:23:29] 03(NEW) Enable "What links here" on applicable special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14787 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (danny.b) [00:29:04] AWAY-Prom3th3an, http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/1272 is mean to be run in vmware; I suggest the free vmware server [00:29:36] 03(mod) Enable "What links here" on applicable special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14787 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [00:41:41] i tried [00:41:59] josh43: I tried to import it but it says it cant find the vhd [00:42:10] i think i kno whats wrong tho :) [00:49:15] beh i want my linux box back. Can't develop on this pos winxp [00:55:19] Anyone know of some one who might help build a bot for my wiki? [00:55:28] Or where to ask to find some one who might do that? [00:56:30] YurtleTheTurtle: Google andLinux [00:56:47] I use andLinux to develop on a windows xp machine [00:56:52] You can run linux apps [00:56:58] and I can shell into a "linux box" [00:57:10] It's native also, not emulated [01:03:26] LauraHale: I'm a bot developer, what are you after? [01:04:13] http://fanhistory.com/wiki/User:FanFictionNetBot [01:04:26] I had that. And the person who wrote it for me can't do another verison. [01:04:50] Creates pages like http://fanhistory.com/wiki/Chichi1415 based on http://fanhistory.com/wiki/Template:Person [01:05:22] It basically gets information from a site and then say outputs multiple articles. [01:06:02] do you have any programming experience? [01:06:39] Nope. Nada. :( [01:06:49] Well, I have a little but it amounts to not much. [01:07:03] Cobi-Laptop: ping [01:07:07] LauraHale: one moment [01:07:17] I know enough to install python and run pywikpedia [01:07:18] no problem [01:07:28] well, a little is far better than none :P [01:09:15] Cobi: Do you still have that really simple bot framework? [01:09:16] I have done some basic html and one programming class that I failed. [01:09:51] Werdna: MWbot framework or IRC bot? [01:13:21] Cobi: MWbot [01:14:14] Werdna: [[User:ClueBot/Source]] - the wikibot.classes part. [01:14:42] 03(mod) CentralAuth global session not including wikipecies, incubator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14407 +comment (10D.U.Thibault) [01:15:15] Cobi: I mean the real simple scripting language you did [01:16:52] Oh. [01:16:58] [[WP:CBS]] [01:17:15] LauraHale: have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CBS [01:19:36] Not so much interested in building it myself as getting some one to help build it for me. As this isn't really simple. [01:20:12] Bot goes to page, looks for specific field, finds that does not phrase and then creates about 5 articles in response of that condition is met [01:20:34] And I have really no experience :/ and kind of not much of an interest sort of with some other admin issues. [01:20:37] Anyway, later. [01:40:22] 03(NEW) Support linking to djvu page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14788 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (snottygobble) [01:42:43] josh43: grin [01:42:45] josh43: http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/384 [01:42:55] josh43: im happy now :) [01:43:23] he left :( [01:50:02] CRAP... I forgot my PGP passcode for a rarely used mailbox.... t [02:21:28] 03shinjiman * r37546 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Localisation updates Cantonese and Chinese for extension messages [03:34:47] Hi, the search facility on wikipedia, where it populates a list below what you are typing, can I recreate that on a 1.10.1 mediawiki install? [04:04:45] 03stipe * r37547 10/branches/MetavidWiki-exp/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (FlowPlayerDark.swf mv_flashEmbed.js): basic flowplayer javascript implemented [04:41:42] is it possible to create new user groups (so as to assign rights to them)? [04:45:14] 03shinjiman * r37548 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesZh_my.php: fix header comments [04:51:17] !userrights | Wyvernoid [04:51:17] --mwbot-- Wyvernoid: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [04:51:42] I've read those pages [04:52:00] they didn't say if I could create new usergroups [04:52:37] they taught me how to assign rights to existing user groups but not how to create new user groups... [04:54:47] just assign rights to a new group [04:54:48] and it will exist [04:55:17] as it says on the first page [04:55:19] "This example will create an arbitrary "ninja" group that can block users and delete pages, and whose edits are hidden by default in the recent changes log" [04:56:22] Splarka: okay, thanks [05:06:35] damn, someone broke up spelling of dates [05:12:44] http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?uselang=fi – "11 heinäkuu 2008" *should* be "11. heinäkuuta 2008" [05:38:41] Hi, the search facility on wikipedia, where it populates a list below what you are typing, can I recreate that on a 1.10.1 mediawiki install? [05:41:38] MrHappy_: there is an old version (that sucked quite a bit and was rarely used) [05:41:56] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAjaxSearch [05:48:29] <_wooz> lo [05:56:04] Hi guyz need a lil help my prob is pasted at http://rafb.net/p/yBXCGq21.html any help would be greatly appreciated [05:58:25] need help with mediawiki pretty urls prob posted at http://rafb.net/p/yBXCGq21.html [06:23:05] 03(mod) Draft tab does not disappear after sighting - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14561 (10tim) [06:23:53] 03mkroetzsch * r37549 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticCalendar/includes/SC_ParserFunctions.php: Citng from Parser.php: "NOT $wgArticle, $wgUser or $wgTitle. Keep them away!" ;-) [06:40:20] hey all, is there a way to ban open /anon proxies like wikipedia does? [06:42:33] manually... [06:43:01] although they have new tor blocking extension that is automatic http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TorBlock [06:43:27] what does it do? [06:43:52] it directly accesses tor's exit node list [06:44:11] and lets you use custom access for tor users, which can be an outright ban... [06:44:42] or something less strict, like no anon edits, no account creation (account creation being sysop performed in such cases usually), longer wait periods for autoconfirmed status, etc [06:44:51] okay awesome [06:44:55] thanks so much Splarka [06:45:04] but tor is a small part of the open proxies available [06:45:08] just one of the most abuseable [06:45:13] see also: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgBlockOpenProxies [06:45:35] and: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RudeProxyBlock to use Wikipedia's blocks as your own [06:46:24] (eg, block bulking from a \n delimited list) [07:06:06] hello everyone [07:06:09] got a question [07:06:17] what does cascading protection mean [07:07:05] i suppose it means "if A page transcludes B page, and you lock A, then B aslo gets locked" ? [07:14:42] umarsheikh: yes [07:15:12] thanks. can u tell me where the code is that really does the cascading stuff? [07:15:43] i can locate the code that protects page A, but cant find the code that protects pages included in A [07:17:23] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=19095 [07:17:51] it involved some rather distributed changes to the core system [07:18:09] hello [07:18:16] (and has had many changes since it was unforked back to core) [07:18:38] in the messages there is extlink_sample which allows customisation of example.com [07:18:47] many of those customisations point to advertising sites [07:18:58] should we replace them with wikimedia.org or something similar? [07:22:19] 03raymond * r37550 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Add the new sidebar keywords to reflect the new possibilities. No change in sequence. [07:22:57] 03(mod) PageHistory don't use limit - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14778 (10chantepie) [07:26:13] 03(mod) PageHistory don't use limit - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14778 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [07:46:29] anybody? [07:47:34] i can be anybody :) [07:49:04] well you already saw my question [07:49:23] Nikerabbit: Yes, it should definitely be changed. [07:50:07] but to what? [07:50:10] Actually... [07:50:15] http://example.com seems fine. [07:50:27] and all links or or just working ones? [07:50:27] Which point to advertising sites? [07:50:56] MZMcBride: about half of the customisations [07:51:12] What's an example link? [07:51:26] lazy? [07:51:32] [10:12:27] Nikerabbit> http://www.adresa.com [07:51:32] [10:12:41] Nikerabbit> http://www.sam.com [07:51:32] [10:13:08] Nikerabbit> http://www.paradeigma.com [07:51:32] [10:13:26] Nikerabbit> http://www.eksempel.no [07:52:16] Can't they use example.com? [07:52:48] MZMcBride: because everybody loves english? [07:53:03] Well, wikimedia.org only has English on it. [07:53:53] How MediaWiki:extlink_sample is used [07:53:55] example.com is the RFC standard. [07:54:12] well, either it is example.com or something else safe [07:54:49] example.org? ;) [07:55:02] wikimedia.org + example.com = example.org :) [07:55:09] heh [07:55:38] ok then, who wants to do the job? [08:34:20] 03rotem * r37551 10/trunk/extensions/SiteMatrix/SiteMatrix.i18n.php: False credits must be avoided: I made this translation, see r15640. [08:57:24] 03siebrand * r37552 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Use a .org RFC2606 compliant example URL [09:01:42] hi guyz having problems with redirecting from addon domain need help [09:02:06] also pretty urls have made my special tags disappear [09:02:09] need help [09:02:51] !prettyurl | node100101 [09:02:51] --mwbot-- node100101: I don't know anything about "prettyurl". [09:02:59] !prettyurls [09:02:59] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "prettyurls". [09:03:05] !urls [09:03:05] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "urls". You might try: !fileurl !protocols !purge !shorturl [09:03:15] !shorturl | node100101 [09:03:15] --mwbot-- node100101: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [09:26:33] 03siebrand * r37553 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (171 files): [09:26:33] Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-07-11 11:00 CEST) [09:26:33] * all languages: update 'extlink_sample' to use a .org RFC2606 compliant example URL [09:26:48] philosophy of MW/WP [09:27:08] what was the driving theory behind the small number of namespaces? [09:27:29] why not, e.g., Film: and Bio:? [09:27:54] does anyone know? [09:28:08] namespaces serve special functions beyond categorization [09:28:15] indeed they do [09:28:16] the Category system serves that purpose [09:28:30] would you care to enlarge on the special functions? [09:28:40] i like to think i'm experienced but i'd like perspective [09:28:50] well... [09:28:59] ...aside from the obvious [09:29:11] lets start with 0, the main namespace, which is (usually) null [09:29:39] the theory being, mainspace pages are "public", encyclopedic articles [09:29:51] right, pretty basic, not much magic [09:30:06] and every single such topic is in mainspace -- no distinction [09:30:21] ns-0 being default for some Special pages, that are used for maintenance, and of course things like Article count (but the "content" namespaces are customizable) [09:30:32] so if two topics have the same name, they must be distinguished anyway, somehow [09:30:56] well, special, image, template, category -- all these are obvious [09:30:57] ns-1 then is the main talk namespace, it is associated with the main in the generic talk way, for magic words etc. Also it usually has subpagination enabled by default [09:31:07] well [09:31:12] some might have features that aren't so obvious [09:31:12] and i have long said that the talkspaces are the smartest thing about MW [09:31:22] 03siebrand * r37554 10/trunk/extensions/ (23 files in 23 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-07-11 11:00 CEST) [09:31:35] perhaps i can learn [09:31:38] for example User namespace, pretty self-explanitory [09:31:41] but there are some quirks [09:31:47] Splarka, thanks [09:31:50] for example, to find log entries performed on users, you search by page name [09:31:51] i was away [09:32:06] actually, i have always thought that userspace was one of the most misunderstood [09:32:06] eg, if you want to see a user blog, you search for User:Username in Special:Log/block [09:32:36] also, some special cases apply, such as any subpage ending in .css or .js, protected from editing by other users who are non-sysops (default config anyway) [09:32:44] for consistency, User:Foo should be the page that describes Foo, not his personal workshop page [09:32:49] as well as the /skinname css/js subpages being automatically loaded (if enabled) [09:33:20] a handy trick.. [09:33:32] protect User:Foo as {{User:Foo/foopage.css}} [09:33:39] only they then can edit their user page [09:33:50] well, all these are good reasons for namespaces [09:33:56] User talk of course, is pretty much the same as Talk, but does new message notification [09:33:57] what is the argument *against*? [09:34:09] geez [09:34:26] perhaps the arguments are specific to the application [09:34:28] I;ve done 4 of 16, patience ^_^ [09:34:58] one might reason, a general reference work *might* demand 100 namespaces, which is impractical [09:35:06] Project: namespace is mostly only magical in that it is almost always customized (in that it is the same as the site name most of the time), and aliased to Project [09:35:29] *that* is one of my biggest beefs -- it screws up search by google [09:35:37] i rename it to Meta: on my wikis [09:35:49] Image namespace of course, is associated with files, and interesting things like transcluding pages in the image namespace do not transclude the files, and links to the image namespace perform magic (and have to be colon escaped for normal linkage) [09:35:59] there should indeed be a place to discuss the discussion but that is a metadiscussion [09:36:03] MediaWiki namespace of course, has lots of magic [09:36:30] it has default content even with no pages existing (like image namespace with shared image repository), as well as subpage translation and automatic protection [09:36:57] Template's main magic is that it is assumed for template calls, {{foo}} assumes Template:Foo (assuming no parser hooks claiming it first) [09:37:11] *that* is least interesting [09:37:13] Help... I don't think does much magic? I never used it much really [09:37:34] templates might just as well be invoked with a namespace [09:37:37] Category is much like Image, transclusions don't do anything, and normal-type linking is interrupted for special applications [09:37:41] well [09:37:44] same for Category and Image [09:37:49] let's come back to Help [09:38:06] [[Foo]] and [[Image:Foo.jpg]] and [[Category:Foo]] all do very different things, as 3 different namespaces [09:38:13] from a stingy point of view, why not have one namespace, Meta, that embraces Project and Help? [09:38:29] thanks side brand [09:38:42] wel i did try the short url method mentioned on the meta.mediaiwik [09:38:44] I don't think too many would object Xiong [09:38:45] dint quite work form [09:38:51] I never use the help namespace except on mediawiki.org [09:38:52] got some errors! [09:38:58] well [09:39:29] *Splarka shrugs [09:39:39] i am building up a new wiki and it seems perfectly reasonable to define 8 new namespaces, plus their talks [09:39:45] recreational geometry [09:39:48] sure [09:40:00] but a hundred new namespaces would probably not be as reasonable [09:40:04] so, Proof: and Axiom: are different [09:40:08] especially the pain involved in changing them around [09:40:21] Xiong: be sure to define them as content namespaces ^_^ [09:40:27] well i'm not here to make suggestions for WP [09:40:32] some other namespace magic... [09:40:42] i don't know if that's valuable... [09:40:50] each namespace gives its own class, ns--2 to ns-15 (and custom of course) [09:40:50] that flag only affects statistics [09:41:04] so far as i know [09:41:05] well, not quite [09:41:10] it does some other things IIRC [09:41:14] also, be aware [09:41:16] ? [09:41:24] Special:Random won't find your scattered content [09:41:38] Search often only searches NS-0 (by default) [09:41:43] i more or less detest randompage [09:41:57] Special:Allpages and Prefixindex can only do one NS at a time [09:42:04] same for many api functions [09:42:31] can i not set the default search array? [09:42:32] there are many reasons not to use namespaces for categorization willy-nilly [09:42:37] probably [09:42:46] but you can't prefixindex two namespaces at once [09:42:51] well, except in two tabs/windows ^_^ [09:43:08] i don't think i've ever "prefixindex"-d [09:43:11] hello [09:43:13] really? odd [09:43:16] well, I do it all the time [09:43:41] you may wish to check some big wikis on Wikia, many of them have custom namespaces for content [09:43:56] and ask them about their various experiences with them [09:44:01] Splarka, i have opened http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php?r1=19095&r2=19094&pathrev=19095 [09:44:23] but can't find where it gets all transcluded pages and updates their protection [09:45:15] umarsheikh: I don't know the specifics of the operation, I just know that in r19095 it was first added, and you can trace its progress from there pretty much [09:45:29] (php spaghetticode, ow) [09:45:44] ok, thanks! [09:47:54] is Werdna around? [09:49:51] maybe [09:50:07] hey VasilievVV [09:51:28] hi Werdna [09:55:50] hello Werdna [09:56:09] can u tell me where is the code that enables cascading protection [09:56:26] various places. [09:56:38] Mostly Title.php, although there's a bit in Article.php and ProtectionForm.php [09:56:53] i had no idea it would be in title [09:57:04] which function of TItle.php? [09:57:43] so at some point it gets a list of all pages transcluded, and protects only them, or recursively protects them? [09:58:43] i mean, page A includes B includes C, so if i do cascading protection, it will protect all three? [09:59:14] If B includes C, then A includes C [10:01:14] umarsheikh: that's not really how it works. [10:01:53] It uses the pre-generated list generated by the parser. [10:02:33] i dont get it [10:02:49] Well, lists of pages included in each page are generated [10:02:49] u mean VaslieVV is wrong? [10:03:04] which means VaslieVV is right? [10:03:07] VasilievVV is right. Your understanding isn't quite right. [10:03:26] What are you trying to achieve? [10:03:59] I want to know where the code is that gets this list, and for each of the articles in the list, calls updateRestriction method of the article [10:04:18] That isn't how it works. [10:04:30] oic... then how does it work? [10:04:57] When the software checks if a page is protected, it also looks to see if that page is included in any cascade-protected pages [10:05:39] Look at line 1204 of Title.php [10:06:41] can u give me a link to the version u are looking at? [10:07:28] trunk. [10:07:49] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php?view=markup [10:07:59] search for cascadeprotectionsources [10:14:47] Werdna, line 1204: if ( $doExpensiveQueries && !$this->isCssJsSubpage() ) { [10:15:06] yep [10:16:23] so before letting anyone edit, we check protect permission, and if it is ok, we check permissions of all pages that include this page, and if none of them have the cascade option on prtection, we allow edit? [10:16:44] Well, in a manner of speaking. [10:16:56] We use a database query instead, but that's the rough idea. [10:17:15] which means that the page_restrictions table only includes protections for the page that we protect, and does not create table entries for the other pages? [10:19:46] Correct. [10:20:31] ok, thanks a lot! [10:30:28] 03siebrand * r37555 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/language/FlaggedRevs.i18n.php: Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-07-11 12:26 CEST) [10:33:18] 03siebrand * r37556 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (21 files): [10:33:18] Localisation updates for cpre messages from Betawiki (2008-07-11 12:26 CEST) [10:33:18] * mainly consistency fixes [10:44:25] splarka:sorry, my box took a dump [10:44:53] last: prefixindex? [10:45:15] http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?title=Calendar [10:45:37] can somebody help me installing this extension? [10:46:13] tried and failed a few times [10:48:41] hi guyz i have domain xyz.net i added an addon domain xyz.com to it, downloaded mediawiki extracted it to /public_html/xyz.com/ ran the config and its setup flawlessly. Nextly i wished to get the pretty URLs such that xyz.com/Main_Page is displayed(edited .htaccess file but failed as it was in /public_html folder so i moved it to /public_html/xyz.com) it then worked but the special tags i.e recentchanges tabs fail error comes up need help [10:49:48] node100101: don't put anything into the domain' [10:49:57] err, into the domains root directory [10:50:04] especially not the wiki files [10:50:10] !rewriteproblems [10:50:10] --mwbot-- 1) Try as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root. [10:50:46] yes, i have used this method with great success [10:51:06] i think it should be elevated to the "recommended method", root access or no [10:51:11] I followed this instructions http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?title=DPL:Installation [10:51:39] markandhriah: stating the actual problem/error would help [10:51:49] I downloaded the Recode.zip Semeb_extensions.zip [10:51:57] you are right. [10:52:17] I followed all the steps. [10:52:18] okay sorry for acting n00bish, but since the domain is an addon one it automatically creates a folder called xyz.com in public_html [10:52:33] and i still did not get the DPL calendar [10:52:48] node100101: yes. so, create a directory called "mw" or "w" or something below that, and use that to install the wiki files [10:53:02] i installed the latest svn version of mediawiki and retrying it. [10:53:32] canonically, /w/ [10:53:37] you mean i should create a directory called /public_html/xyz.com/wiki and install it there however the .htaccess file still remains in /public_html folder tryin methods at meta.mediwiki gets me into 500 errors [10:53:47] there are places in third-party docs that assume it [10:53:53] no! [10:54:21] install to /public_html/xyz.com/w/ [10:54:31] do not install into /wiki/ [10:54:35] okay [10:54:49] markandhriah: did you also install all the templates? in any case... this looks quite complex, and quite... non-standard :) i doubt anyone here has ever used it, or anything like it. [10:55:22] i certainly don't understand it [10:55:35] DPL, that is [10:55:43] yes it is DPL [10:55:57] Xiong, node100101: well, technically, it doesn't matter if you install into w/ or wiki/ or whateveryoulike/ - the point is that you install into apath DIFFERENT from the path you want to use in the end. [10:56:03] i got the pretty urls to work after placing the .htaccess file into /public_html/xyz.com/ keepin at its orginal location /public_html/ gets me 500 errors [10:56:16] node100101: "work" is relative. [10:56:34] well the issue is that when you use the short url method, it's required that the pretty url folder be different from the "real" one [10:56:35] node100101: and yes, .htaccess (ideally) goes into the document root of your (sub)domain [10:57:02] if the real path is /wiki/, you can't use that for the pretty path [10:57:15] okay.. [10:57:31] and as i said, some third party stuff assumes the install was made into /w/ [10:57:34] why be novel? [10:58:47] sorry i am new so please be patient if u dont mind my apologies my steps henceforth would be 1.Uninstall wiki 2. extract the folder at the local host 3. upload files to xyz.com/wiki/ 4.Configure MW [10:58:48] Xiong: third party stuff that assumes something like that should be taken out and shot :P [10:58:59] correct me if i am wrong till now? [10:59:06] or placated with boxes of joss sticks [10:59:38] -- before my box took a terrible dump, splarka was arguing the case against extra namespaces [10:59:42] -- comments? [11:00:03] i don't see why extra namespaces should be bad [11:00:15] well i'm open to reason [11:00:16] except they cause confusion when importing/exporting [11:00:18] every thing went well with the installation [11:00:33] node100101: wiki/ is not a good choice. upload to w/ [11:00:38] as it did not complain after I added the line [11:00:39] my position is that my wiki is for recreational geometry [11:00:41] require_once("$IP/extensions/DynamicPageList/DynamicPageList2.php"); [11:00:48] in LocalSettings.php [11:00:54] markandhriah: so you have DPL now. fine. [11:01:03] thus, nearly any topic will span several pages and those pages are predictable [11:01:43] i'd use subpages for that [11:01:49] for instance, Puzzle:Inscribed Pentagon, Draw:Inscribed Pentagon, Proof:Inscribed Pentagon,... [11:01:56] ah yes [11:01:59] but here's the willy [11:02:16] these related pages will always be related the same way [11:02:22] 03siebrand * r37557 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (11 files): [11:02:22] Localisation updates for cpre messages from Betawiki [11:02:22] * mainly consistency fixes [11:02:26] okay so i upload to public_html/xyz.com/w/ and then install? one more lame question when do i create the /wiki/ folder as said earlier virtual pages go to /w/ and other to /wiki/ confused:S [11:02:36] and it will be very handy to have internal navigation within the set [11:02:55] node100101: you never create the /wiki/ folder, because it's a virtual path. [11:03:01] node100101: it only exists in urls. [11:03:02] not sure. [11:03:16] node100101: it's the *virtual* place for your *pages*, not a *real* place for your *files* [11:03:21] and {{basepagename}} will work in any namespace, so it can be used to construct the internal navigation box [11:03:27] I may have it as the wiki did not fail or complain [11:03:28] and one template will work on all pages [11:03:30] ohh ic wonderfull [11:03:33] node100101: with that in mind, read carefully [11:03:49] okay and follow the steps that have been used there?> [11:03:53] I am at step "Install Calendar Templates" [11:04:05] what does he mean by this? [11:04:18] http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?title=Test_calendar [11:04:28] Copy / paste the following list of articles to Special:export and import the resulting XML text into your wiki: [11:04:34] node100101: yes. btw: keeping the "real" and the "virtual" stuff from mixing up is the reason not to use the document root directly, but to have two separate pathes, w/ an wiki/ [11:04:35]