[00:06:07] !wake up :) [00:06:07] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "wake". [00:06:45] So the mwbot doesn't know everything, makes me feel better. :) [00:11:43] um, somebody broke somethin [00:11:56] Titoxd: try to be much more specific [00:12:00] :P [00:12:04] no, it was me [00:12:05] sorry [00:12:08] --> arrows in page histories are broken. [00:12:16] They don't link the relevant section anymore. [00:12:22] the arrows in page histories don't point to sections, just to pages [00:12:24] ack [00:12:44] it's in en.wp and es.wp [00:12:47] at least [00:12:48] probably the Linker changes [00:12:52] put it in bugzilla [00:13:41] Is there a #mediawiki-templates? [00:14:37] I don't believe so. [00:14:46] I only know of #mediawiki and #mediawiki-scripts [00:14:54] I think it is needed for the template fanatics like me. [00:14:57] You're free to use the latter for template questions, though. [00:15:15] Most of my problems are parser functions. [00:15:42] Lady_Aleena, use fewer of them and you'll have fewer problems. [00:16:06] Simetrical, I would if others wouldn't create really really broken ones. [00:16:29] The question you should always be asking when doing templates is not, "How can I add this new feature I thought up?" It should be "What's the minimum number of templates and nesting and parser functions and complexity I can use to achieve an acceptable minimum level of functionality for this template?" [00:18:10] Simetrical, I do stay within the current list of parser functions and try to keep them as simple as possible. It is that I have to fix a lot of them when they are broken or really really bad. [00:18:21] how many of the parser tests are broken? Just want to see if I didn't break something :) [00:19:16] What does the suppressredirect right do? "Allows moving a page without automatically creating a redirect." isn't very clear. [00:19:42] When you move a page, it leaves behind a redirect, no? [00:19:53] A --> B makes A a redirect to B. [00:20:05] OverlordQ, I am trying to rewrite one to make it simpler and fix the flaws. [00:20:10] suppressredirect simply doesn't create the redirect at A. [00:20:31] 03(NEW) Arrows pointing to sections in page histories don't work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14995 normal; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (titoxd.wikimedia) [00:20:34] I get 505 out of 524 passed, just wanting to know if that's normal/abnormal [00:20:48] woo fixed mobile gateway [00:21:49] we need five more bugs [00:21:55] and then bugzilla gets a cookie [00:21:56] MZMcBride: Always? (I thought it was only when reverting a move using rollback) [00:22:14] Always. [00:22:31] ok; thanks [00:22:32] Brion says it's a sin against the Web to not leave a redirect behind. [00:22:40] So the right exists, but nothing uses it. :) [00:22:45] :D [00:22:53] 03jhsoby * r38323 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Linker.php: [00:22:53] Changing the code rendered for headers; removing , making into [00:22:53] instead. This removes one line from the output code, but more [00:22:53] importantly enables CSS marking of a title based on its id. Probably not [00:22:53] backwards-compatible with browsers like IE4 (brion checked with IE5) and [00:22:53] Netscape 4, but hey, who cares? [00:22:55] Technically, when APIWrite goes live, it could use it. [00:23:03] well, perhaps it should be turned into only for reverting - that would be useful! [00:23:33] or create a different one to do that [00:24:35] Perhaps. But it's not me who needs convincing. ;) [00:25:18] 03(mod) r37313 broke parser tests for alternative databases. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14990 (10overlordq) [00:25:38] 03(NEW) Automatic edit summaies no longer link to sections - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14996 minor; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (mrzmanwiki) [00:27:12] 14996 and 14995 are dupes. [00:27:17] OverlordQ, the number passing varies somewhat. For me we have 15 failures on trunk now. [00:27:30] OverlordQ, just make sure you don't cause any regressions. [00:27:36] MZMcBride, so dupe them. [00:27:42] 14(DUP) parserTests not correctly using temporary tables. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14991 +comment (10overlordq) [00:27:50] 03(mod) r37313 broke parser tests for alternative databases. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14990 (10overlordq) [00:27:59] How does one decide which to mark as a duplicate? [00:28:22] 03(NEW) Rollback stopped working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14997 major; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (Platonides) [00:28:26] mark the later one as duplicate [00:28:51] 14(DUP) Automatic edit summaies no longer link to sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14996 +comment (10titoxd.wikimedia) [00:28:59] 03(mod) Arrows pointing to sections in page histories don't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14995 +comment (10titoxd.wikimedia) [00:29:05] usually the latest one, unless that one has more info/comments than the first one, MZMcBride [00:29:16] MZMcBride: hurm, odd. I get 19 failed. [00:29:28] oops [00:29:30] 03(mod) Arrows pointing to sections in page histories don't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14995 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [00:29:32] :) [00:29:35] OverlordQ, are you on trunk or what? [00:29:35] wrong person lol :( [00:29:38] yea [00:29:39] 03(NEW) Create a new right to not create a redirect when reverting a move using rollback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14998 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (mike.lifeguard) [00:29:45] OverlordQ, could you paste the list? [00:30:26] 03siebrand * r38324 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Adding links to a lot of messages to improve usability. [00:30:48] Yup, gimmie a sec. [00:31:45] oh that's odd, what the hell [00:32:04] after r38323 update to Linker i'm getting 40 [00:32:17] as far as O [00:32:31] as far as I'm concerned, you should always mark the later one as duplicate [00:32:41] regardless of how many comments are on it [00:32:48] OverlordQ, that's because it didn't change the parser tests. [00:32:57] *facepalm* [00:32:58] you can always merge the comments and cc lists [00:33:05] Jhs2, when you change the output of something that's tested with parser tests, update the parser tests. :) [00:33:33] http://pastebin.ca/1089099 [00:33:35] Simetrical, :/ [00:33:41] i guess i tested it the wrong way then [00:34:16] that's the original 19 [00:34:39] Simetrical, i tested it by giving the file to siebrand, making him use it in the sandbox, and see the results myself, that they didn't fuck something up [00:35:09] what is the right way of checking parser tests? [00:37:49] Jhs2, run "php maintenance/parserTests.php --quick --quiet --record" before you make any changes, then run "php maintenance/parserTests.php --quick --quiet --compare" after you make the changes. [00:37:54] It will tell you if there are any extra failures. [00:38:07] 03(mod) Rollback stopped working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14997 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [00:38:17] If there are, and they fail because you've changed the output legitimately, edit maintenance/parserTests.txt to use the new correct output. [00:38:29] Simetrical, okay [00:38:33] didn't know that [00:40:01] 03(mod) Arrows pointing to sections in page histories don't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14995 (10mrzmanwiki) [00:42:19] 03(mod) Use localized alias of Special:Search consistently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14972 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [00:46:18] 03(mod) Rollback stopped working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14997 +comment (10FastLizard4) [00:47:39] 03simetrical * r38325 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Linker.php includes/Title.php): (bug 14995) Some link fragments in the interface stopped appearing, because Title::getLocalURL() doesn't include the fragment. For some reason Title::getFullURL() does, however . . . more functions to clean up? :) [00:48:24] 03(FIXED) Arrows pointing to sections in page histories don't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14995 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [00:54:21] 03simetrical * r38326 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Linker.php): (bug 14997) Rollback links now work again, yay! But doesn't the code look so much prettier? [00:55:41] 03simetrical * r38327 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Linker.php: Rollback links should not get new/mw-redirect/stub classes, either. [00:56:59] 03(FIXED) Rollback stopped working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14997 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [00:58:17] *Titoxd pokes TimStarling [00:58:20] scap please? :) [00:59:05] !shell access admin [00:59:05] --mwbot-- Shell access (that is, SSH access, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH) is highly recommended if you want to run MediaWiki. You can install without it, and basic operation will work, but even creating backups or upgrading will be painful without it. Some more involved maintenance tasks may even be impossible. MediaWiki is not designed for minimal environments. [00:59:16] emergency svn up [01:00:06] Alexfusco5, yes, yes, he knows. [01:00:10] Give it a few minutes. [01:00:21] :) [01:00:49] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Vandalism_information [01:00:52] DEFCON 1 [01:00:58] zOMG zOMG zOMG [01:01:06] *Titoxd goes screaming histerically [01:01:13] *cirwin pours a buckt of water on Titoxd [01:03:39] 03simetrical * r38328 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Linker.php: Revert 38323 for now. Causes massive parser test failure. Also needs to update RELEASE-NOTES. [01:06:18] $ find -iname '*.php' -exec grep 'make[^\s]*Link$Obj$\?' {} + | wc -l [01:06:18] 462 [01:06:26] I have a lot more things to convert, don't I? :D [01:11:55] 03(FIXED) User:Redirect fixer produces corrupted output on en.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14976 +comment (10tstarling) [01:16:30] 04(REOPENED) Arrows pointing to sections in page histories don't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14995 +comment (10chriseagle1729) [01:20:01] 03(FIXED) New revisions occasionally created with wrong text ( but correct rev_len) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14933 +comment (10tstarling) [01:37:20] 03simetrical * r38329 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (Linker.php Skin.php): Use Linker::link() in a couple more places, since I want to break lots more bits of the site interface. Also clean up Skin::nameAndLogin(), although it's seemingly only used in Standard. [01:46:29] hi [01:47:08] mediawiki 1.12.0 and svn trunk shows database error at install end /first open main page [01:47:17] 03simetrical * r38330 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Linker.php): [01:47:17] (bug 14995 again) Fix behavior of link() when it's provided with Titles that [01:47:17] have no text, only a fragment. getLocalURL() doesn't work here either. Can we [01:47:17] have a function that actually means "generate a link to whatever this Title [01:47:17] points at"? [01:47:18] Also remove, as Tim so eloquently terms it, "that crap in the release notes", which I also think is unnecessary and crufty. [01:47:21] > from within function "Article::pageData". MySQL returned error "1267: Illegal mix of collations (ujis_bin,IMPLICIT) and (latin1_swedish_ci,COERCIBLE) for operation '=' (localhost)". [01:47:25] 03(FIXED) Arrows pointing to sections in page histories don't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14995 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [01:47:42] is it a server problem? [01:56:11] we all happy with the linker updates? :) [01:57:21] 03(mod) New revisions occasionally created with wrong text ( but correct rev_len) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14933 (10tstarling) [01:57:35] hrmmmm [01:57:48] something isn't right with the history links still, at least on my test box [01:57:51] hello, does someone know if there is an extension that reformats wiki pages for pda or mobiles? [01:57:58] Simetrical: i'm seeing #x for /* xx */ [01:58:35] and Midgen for /* SMidgen */ [01:58:36] wtf? [02:00:07] 03(mod) New revisions occasionally created with wrong text ( but correct rev_len) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14933 (10tstarling) [02:00:22] public function setFragment( $fragment ) { [02:00:22] $this->mFragment = str_replace( '_', ' ', substr( $fragment, 1 ) ); [02:00:22] } [02:00:29] aha [02:00:40] Simetrical: did you only add the one setFragment() call? [02:01:02] hehe [02:01:15] we have some fucked-up code in there ;) [02:01:23] a bit counterintuitive? [02:01:54] we have the three-parameter version of Title::makeTitle(), as I told Simetrical earlier [02:02:21] 03brion * r38331 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Linker.php: [02:02:21] Fix regression from r38325 -- caused first character of section name in a history link to be trimmed. [02:02:21] Title::setFragment() does not do what you'd think it does. :) [02:02:21] instead of setFragment(), you can use $title = Title::makeTitle($title->getNamespace(), $title->getDBkey(), $fragment); [02:02:30] heh [02:03:02] do we remember what the reason for not adding fragments in getLocalUrl() was? [02:03:09] there was some crappy excuse as i recall [02:06:45] hey all - i've got a weird problem, wonder if anyone has seen it before - basically all system messages are showing the default values (from MessagesEn.php) rather than the overloaded values in MediaWiki namespace articles [02:07:49] even messages inserted by extensions exhibit this behavior - they load as though the MediaWiki namespace articles don't exist :/ [02:08:06] any help from anyone who has seen this is much appreciated [02:08:33] did you say disable $wgUseDatabaseMessages ? [02:09:21] maybe - I'll check, thanks much brion :) [02:10:22] unfortunately I don't have access to the current LocalSettings for this project, we're switching colocation facilities, and I haven't been given access yet [02:10:34] so it'll be a minute before I find out - thanks fro the help :) [02:11:09] good luck :) [02:11:21] brion, speaking of messages, can you figure out why this isn't being parsed correctly after a wfLoadExtensionMessages() call? a var_dump() on $messages under the very last line outputs the correct information, yet it shows on the pages as if the messages didn't even exist: http://pastey.net/92870 [02:12:55] um? [02:13:05] *brion is utterly confused by what this code is attempting to accomplish [02:13:30] it autoloads message files [02:13:58] so that one wfLoadExtensionMessages call will load every message defined in the extension [02:14:36] (can't put them all in the same file, since the extension in question is extensible with third-party plugins, and they won't necessarily have commit access to add in new messages) [02:15:05] brion: the admin hasn't given me the LocalSettings yet, but I /can/ see Special:Allmessages, so I don't think $wgUseDatabaseMessages is set to false. in Special:Allmessages, the article links in the left column are correct, but the messages are all the defaults [02:15:25] jimbojw: can't the plugins just call wfExtensionMessages on their files? [02:15:27] er [02:15:28] Skizzerz: [02:15:41] I wanted to make it easier, but yeah, that would work too [02:15:52] *jimbojw is on a hacked 1.9.x codebase [02:15:58] jimbojw: maybe your ui language is set funny [02:16:02] just irks me that it has the right output, but it isn't being detected >_> [02:16:05] or it' sjust hacked to be broken :) [02:16:20] Skizzerz: $evMessages[$langcode] = array_merge($evMessages[$langcode], $messages[$langcode]); doesn't look easy to me :D [02:16:40] heh - thanks, yeah, it's almost certainly a LocalSettings issue - the exact same code worked fine in our old collocation facility [02:17:00] yeah :P [02:17:15] *jimbojw was told before signing up for the job that they weren't core hacking, a blatant fabrication :( [02:18:05] :) [02:18:20] anyway, I'll look into that more tomorrow, and if I can't figure it out, I suppose the (currently 0) other people that make plugins for the extension will have to live with defining more files [02:19:02] *Skizzerz g2g [02:19:28] :D [02:19:31] *brion wanders off [02:31:55] 03dale * r38332 10/branches/MetavidWiki-exp/MetavidWiki/maintenance/download_from_archive_org.php: download archive.org script stub [02:37:33] 04(REOPENED) Arrows pointing to sections in page histories don't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14995 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [02:38:54] ugh [02:43:10] 03(NEW) E-mail notifications are sent from noc@wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14999 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (MZMcBride) [02:45:00] 03aaron * r38333 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.class.php): Tweak baseRevId validation [03:42:48] 03aaron * r38334 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.class.php: Ignore baseRevId for auto-merges [03:43:42] 03(mod) Bot flags automatically although previous version is unflagged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14196 (10JSchulz_4587) [04:17:10] 03aaron * r38335 10/trunk/extensions/intersection/DynamicPageList.php: Add stablepages and qualitypages params for wikinews (bug 14943) [04:17:27] 03(FIXED) Make DPL extension aware of FlaggedRevs for use on Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14943 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [04:31:50] 03raymond * r38336 10/trunk/extensions/ (Babel/Babel.i18n.php Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt): [04:31:50] Make 'babel-directionality' optional. [04:31:50] The only other valid value for 'ltr' is 'rtl', all other "translations" create invalid HTML/CSS in Babel.class.php [04:31:50] A better solution could be the usage of $wgContLang->isRTL() ? [04:49:36] Hi, I have these lines in an extension function (for replace a parser function) and the string returned is url-encoded : [04:49:38] $text = Revision::newFromTitle( $title )->getText(); [04:49:40] $text = $wgParser->parse( $text, $title, new ParserOptions() ); [04:49:42] return expreg($text->getText()); //expreg is a local function [04:51:00] ... and all my DPL lists are substitued by UNIQ2rrtrETC.... [04:53:20] I just want to apply a regex in the body of a page, *after expanding templates*. It's why I use Parser. [05:04:42] 03(FIXED) Deleting a user-page should reset 'newtalk' flag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8756 +comment (10innocentkiller) [05:12:53] 03(FIXED) Special:Categories/ARGUMENT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8881 +comment (10innocentkiller) [05:35:09] 03(mod) Syntax to customise location of search box within navigation bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7493 (10N/A) [05:41:18] 03werdna * r38337 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/parser_native/ (check makefile): Fix problem in makefile from unmerging vasiliev's changes. [06:03:38] I confused, How do I use the renameuser feature? [06:09:08] he lasted a whole 2 minutes! [06:10:03] viagra helps [06:10:30] lol [06:39:53] !renameuser [06:39:53] --mwbot-- Renameuser provides a special page which allows authorised users to rename user accounts. See < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Renameuser > for more details. [06:40:13] Titoxd closing the barn door after we ate the hamburgers [06:40:19] heh [06:40:23] *Titoxd just came here [06:40:50] remember: there's no time in IRC [06:41:18] tell that to the timestamps: http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/chanlogs/%23mediawiki/20080801.txt [06:41:19] heh [06:41:25] heh [06:41:39] (but he only hung around 2 minutes after asking) [06:41:58] darn conference mode [06:43:01] what does that even mean [06:43:41] does xchat have a '[x] turn me into pointy haired boss so I am oblivious to the world' checkbox? [06:43:50] hides joins/parts? [06:44:01] *Splarka taunts the xchat [06:45:17] chatzilla hides joins/parts if there's >n users in a channel [06:45:41] oh, chatzilla, ick [06:46:02] *Splarka misremembered "New Now Know How" [06:47:15] I used to have something different [06:47:21] but then... I got a new computer [06:47:31] and I didn't care about changing that in the new one :P [06:47:50] Heh. [06:48:31] Nikerabbit: Take a look at this... this kind of insert( ... ) input isn't valid in any other Database abstraction system... Well, at the least... I know MW would brutally mangle it... http://wiki-tools.pastebin.com/d4396d767 [06:54:10] how do i change the contents in the navigation menu? [06:54:32] !sidebar [06:54:32] --mwbot-- To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [06:58:32] 03tstarling * r38338 10/trunk/tools/lint.php: PHP syntax checker [07:07:55] I don't really understand what is meant by "Note that groups which may only grant some rights (like bureaucrats in this example) need to have set userrights privilege to false, otherwise they will still be able to add all groups (except in 1.11)." on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgAddGroups. Can someone expain it to me? [07:08:49] jelle, with 'userrights' they're like stewards [07:09:23] or, if you're unfamiliar with Wikipedia... [07:10:32] so what userrights should bureaucrats have in that example? $wgGroupPermissions['bureaucrat'][??] = ?? [07:11:16] or rather: how do I 'set userrights priviledge to false' ? [07:12:38] what I'm trying to do: I added two groups: 'readers' and 'writers', and would like to have people in the bureaucrat group to assign these groups to users, but only these groups. [07:12:43] !rights [07:12:43] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [07:13:07] yes, I've read those. [07:14:23] you don't know how to change LocalSettings.php? [07:20:33] I do. [07:21:44] I'll reread again. [07:22:26] not sure I understand the 'set userrights privilege to false', do they mean the read/edit rights for 'user', or something else? [07:28:37] $wgGroupPermissions['somegroupname']['userrights'] = false; [07:39:08] 03(NEW) Special:Import error: "Import failed: Could not open import file" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15000 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (francine) [07:40:02] bugzilla gets a cookie [07:40:12] lame bug, though [07:42:26] .....well I would post five hundred bugs and I would post a thousand more, to be the 'zilla that had 1.5k bugs to fix mw's core [07:42:41] na na na na (na na na na) etc [07:43:40] hey hey hey [07:43:49] and I don't know what's next after that [07:44:40] heh, wrong song [07:44:48] na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye [07:46:11] MaxSem: thanks. [07:47:15] lol [07:47:51] yay for proclaimers [07:48:44] Titoxd: Lame bug? That's an important one! :) [07:49:09] it's not bug 57 or anything like that [07:49:14] 1500 should be something like "Checkuser right given to autoconfirmed group on en.wp" [07:49:14] or bug 14997 [07:49:19] yeah [07:49:23] 03(mod) Special:Import error: "Import failed: Could not open import file" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15000 (10N/A) [07:49:47] ParserFunctions documentation is trapped at Meta. [07:50:29] :( [07:50:29] so is the better version of Help:Magic_words [07:57:20] Werdna: by the way, I checked parsers yesterday, none of them handled !( correctly, treating it as one operator and giving "Unknown operator: '!('" for both parsers [08:00:27] VasilievVV: yes, I'll see what I can do. [08:01:31] I fixed PHP parser [08:01:38] Wait, I'll commit it [08:02:25] Werdna: you should check to array( '+', '-'. '*', '/', '^', '&', '|', '%', '=', '<', '>', '!' ) instead of using ctype_punct() [08:03:58] I've fixed it already. [08:04:45] Werdna: also, we should check parser's compatibility [08:04:57] with? [08:17:06] Werdna: with PHP one. Now they have some function names incompatible [08:17:48] VasilievVV: I'll fix it up later. [08:25:02] 03vasilievvv * r38339 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/SpecialEditWikiSets.php: Fix logic error. [08:27:45] VasilievVV: Okay, length and tolower now honour unicode [08:27:49] what else needs unicode support? [08:29:09] oh yeah, regexes [08:29:14] Werdna: I'll check regexes now [08:29:17] was it already reported that section links from RC are broken? [08:29:24] VasilievVV: don't bother. [08:29:26] and from watchlist [08:29:26] VasilievVV: I just fixed it [08:29:42] they're being escaped improperly [08:29:56] they should be "Sample_text" instead of "Sample%20text" [08:29:56] not escaped at all:P [08:30:14] or that [08:30:25] 03(NEW) Section links not changing spaces to underscores - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15001 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (MZMcBride) [08:30:45] blame Simetrical ;P [08:31:21] OverlordQ, "blame" is just a SVN command, I'd rather prefer "flame":) [08:31:54] 03(mod) Section links not changing spaces to underscores - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15001 +comment (10titoxd.wikimedia) [08:34:27] not really sure if that's a dupe [08:34:36] different problem, same area [08:36:19] VasilievVV: unicode regexes now used. [08:37:38] VasilievVV: what else needed doing? [08:38:30] MZM: that's probably a dupe of 14997? [08:38:52] Or maybe 14995? [08:38:59] or several [08:39:05] Thus, the new bug. [08:39:28] oh, perfect logic... if the scope isn't concentrated enough, dilute it more... [08:39:29] Werdna: well, I also sugget to make variable names case-insensitive [08:39:32] *Splarka mehs [08:39:41] Heh. [08:39:46] *Splarka sleeps on it [09:10:48] 03(NEW) Greenspun project illustration request: Decay product - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15002 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (ralf) [09:11:15] what is the consensus on LQT? [09:11:15] hello [09:11:20] good or bad? [09:11:25] Hello Nikerabbit [09:11:49] hi Nikerabbit [09:12:17] or ugly? [09:13:23] my real question, how can I see activity on an extension in the SVN? [09:14:09] Well it hasn't been touched in months really. [09:14:11] 14(INVALID) Greenspun project illustration request: Decay product - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15002 +comment (10maxsem.wiki) [09:16:58] 03(NEW) Greenspun project illustration request: confocal microscopy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15003 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (ralf) [09:17:04] all these WV ppl are like... LQT sucks! [09:17:18] and I'm like... oh ... did I just make a mistake by installing it [09:20:23] perhaps they are all old at wv [09:21:55] faceface: status is 'beta' at most. [09:22:27] faceface: afaik is was hardly touched after the project ended with status incomplete/untested. [09:22:52] 03ialex * r38340 10/trunk/phase3/includes/OutputPage.php: Remove call to Linker::postParseLinkColour() which is useless and deprecated [09:24:06] faceface: on a more general note: the unclear production status of many extensions in SVN annoys me. [09:24:20] 14(INVALID) Greenspun project illustration request: confocal microscopy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15003 +comment (10maxsem.wiki) [09:24:23] *MaxSem wonders where do morons come from [09:26:11] is there such a thing as blocking someone from bugzilla? [09:28:48] Hi! Is it possible to define kind of "templates" when creating new pages in mediawiki? I don't mean mediawiki templates, but I want my users when creating a new page to choose from some often used types of page, where I already predefined some stuff they should add. Havn't found anything regarding that in the documentation, yet :( [09:29:43] you could probably abuse the inputbox extension for that [09:29:49] kind of how it is being used at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RFA/NOM [09:33:29] you can alos set preload links [09:33:36] !preload [09:33:36] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Creating_pages_with_preloaded_text [09:33:51] see also [09:33:51] !createpage [09:33:51] --mwbot-- The best way to create a new wiki page is to create a link to the not-yet-existing page on some page that does exist, save it, and then click the new red link and create the page. Alternatively, you can enter the name of the page in the search box and hit go and then create the page. For extensions that help with creating pages, see [09:35:55] 03huji * r38341 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: Localisation updates: Adding/updating Persian translations [09:36:18] are there any currency convertor extension for mediawiki or rather can integrate a js which do the same.. i need an international clock too.. if possible a tool for weather report! phew [09:38:06] if you have existing js snippets for this stuff, you can use them via raw html [09:38:09] !html [09:38:09] --mwbot-- For allowing any and all HTML, see . This is of course VERY DANGEROUS. Safer options include , and . [09:38:41] Duesentrieb, Titoxd: Many thanks! Preloaded text looks interesting; I'll try that. [09:38:41] HTMLets or RawMsg are probably most convenient [09:39:08] Tolimar: the only problem with it is that it doesn't work with "normal" red links, afaik [09:39:29] hmm... well yeh i could easy find js scripts to get weather reports, currency calc and probaly integrate them using rawmsg and htmlets [09:39:30] rite? [09:43:32] siebrand, can we make some 'extension community pages'? [09:43:34] yes, that's the idea [09:43:59] lets name and shame the worst, and set up a 'MW star pupil' section for the best [09:44:07] unless you want them on *all* pages. then you'd have to hack the skin, or, if they are self-injecting, siply put them in MediaWiki:common.js [09:44:17] well. IMO extensions should be tested to released versions, have a proper 'status', and that information should be made available to the community. [09:45:01] siebrand, so we need a certification community and a testing culture... make a 'golden exetnsion' club, and only allow entry once testing scripts have been written / status evaluated [09:45:01] 03ialex * r38342 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialMovepage.php: * (bug 14987) Only fix double redirects on page move when the checkbox is checked [09:45:03] I know GerardM has been working on getting something done in that area, but it takes a lot of work, and there will be little to no monitary return, as far as I can see. [09:45:17] faceface: something like that. [09:45:24] money... yeah [09:45:31] faceface: and obsolete crap should not be in trunk. [09:45:35] pay with comunimuny [09:45:36] well, maybe an organized feedback system could work. [09:45:51] "version x of this is used successfully with veryion y of mediawiki on site z" [09:45:58] siebrand, tell me about it! the interwiki links table is full of garbage! [09:46:01] Duesentrieb: flaggedrevs used in a different way on mediawikiwiki:Extension: ? :) [09:46:02] faceface we have set up a system where people can test their extension against a bog standard release of the software [09:46:05] ah ic well i actually need on just a single page! a page for currency converter [09:46:08] basically, public endorsement [09:46:21] faceface: Hmm. I did clean that up considerably a while ago. [09:46:26] Duesentrieb: ah ic well i actually need on just a single page! a page for currency converter [09:46:27] siebrand: hm... not really [09:46:37] siebrand, ;-) [09:46:40] this would mean that an extension is tested against a STABLE release [09:46:56] siebrand, actually I haven't looked properly in years [09:46:58] that is imho the only reasonable way of doing this [09:47:08] sentinel100101: with rawmsg or htmlets, you can insert any html, including js snippets, just like normal wiki template. [09:47:09] GerardM-, sounds good [09:47:15] are the tests automated? [09:47:26] hey GerardM- [09:47:40] no, the system of cleaning up after a test is [09:47:53] Hoi Daniel [09:47:59] faceface: MediaWiki does not have a test framework (extension). [09:48:00] Duesentrieb, community feedback is the way forward, It just needs to be structured and administered [09:48:11] faceface: so automated test are not possible yet. [09:48:13] Duesentrieb: well its a public wiki u made a statement rawmsg is VERY DANGEROUS [09:48:18] ? [09:48:36] what do you mean by "automated test" [09:48:36] also... we should be able to merge each of the golden extensions against each other... somehow [09:48:56] like unit tests? [09:49:04] there is hardly any of such test as far as I know [09:49:13] sentinel100101: no i didn't. read it again. rawhtml is dangerous. rawmsg isn't. [09:49:26] not 'fully automatic', but at least somethign that can be run [09:49:31] sentinel100101: htmlets is a little bit safer still [09:49:43] well, that's arguable i guess. [09:49:56] when you want to test, you have to write tests... typically people do not write tests [09:50:12] siebrand, I tried to set up some pages on mediawiki.org to help administer interwikilinks... I don't suppose they are still in use? [09:50:37] GerardM-, exactly why I would make it a requirement for becoming 'golden', addressing the issue siebrand raised [09:50:44] faceface: and how would that work? writing unit tests is a lot of work. writing unit tests for interactive stuff is more work. writing unit tests for web stuff that has to run on different browsers and configs is pretty much impossible. [09:51:05]