[00:00:54] 03(mod) LanguageXx.php files contain WMF specific settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14165 (10siebrand) [00:01:40] ^_^ Time to slightly improve an extension [00:04:13] brion, i'd like to fix the annoyance that the default sortkey causes for non-ns0 pages in categories. it shouldn't contain the namespace but just the {{PAGENAME}} by default. afaics, this would require a db change in the categorylinks table to convert all the existing default sortkeys, though. [00:04:24] what do you think about that? [00:04:49] I'd consider that a serious regression on what is a long understood default behavior [00:06:00] If you added a feature such as that, I would recommend it be triggered by a configuration variable which is off by default. [00:06:13] LeonWP: i'm pretty sure we changed it from not including the namespace to including the namespace [00:06:16] Dantman, look at any random wikipedia namespace page what people currently do... [00:06:42] Yes, because they explicitly want it there, because they understand the behavior. [00:06:43] brion, even for 1.5.5? [00:06:45] hi [00:06:51] anyone know how to use the book module [00:06:58] this was probably done for categories which may contain mixed namespaces, since it sorts in a way that makes sense [00:07:02] What about all the people not using that because they know that the namespace is already doing to be included [00:07:02] I want to have some content formated like a book (with chapters) [00:07:15] however if the category will be exclusively from things of one namespace, it looks odd for everything to be sorted under "W" or "U" i suppose [00:07:42] trev: if you're using 1.5.5 i highly recommend upgrading :) [00:07:47] yep, that's what I mean [00:07:47] lots of bug and security fixes [00:08:20] how difficult is an upgrade? [00:08:25] O_o did I commit? [00:08:58] I am just concerned in hosing up the wiki while upgrading [00:09:25] ^_^ Yay, #arraymap now supports the nowiki trick so newlines can be used as separators [00:09:41] anyone? [00:09:59] trev: Shared hosting without SSH, Shared hosting with SSH, or (V|D)PS? [00:10:49] JZA: You could probably put them in a category and use templates to link between chapters. [00:11:02] so was there a special reason to include the namespace inmto the default sortkey? [00:11:44] LeonWP: Well they are part of the title... And it is handy for things like images being included inside of a category [00:12:13] single hosting [00:12:17] Dantman, namespaaces usually are separated... at least in any sane wiki [00:13:20] separated? in what way does that push the argument? (context clearing) [00:13:30] brion: single wiki hosting as far as the mysql database if that's what you are asking [00:13:31] trev: You have SSH access? [00:13:53] images have image categories articles article categories... [00:13:56] ssh as in secure shell? [00:14:00] yes [00:16:18] LeonWP: Like I said... fell free to make the feature, but make it a configuration off by default... wiki do expect sorting to work the current way it does, it shouldn't suddenly change when it's expected to be this way [00:17:20] LeonWP: ^_^ If you want to make a real smart feature... make that configuration customizable by individual namespaces... [00:17:29] Dantman, ye that was my initial idea.. sadly this seems to be hardwired into the database [00:17:48] Really? In what way? [00:18:05] I expect that at some point the software needs to create the sortkey to save [00:18:19] You'd just use the config when you create the default one [00:21:01] yes but then you need also a transition job running on the databasein case you changed the default sortkey by config switch... [00:22:09] generally, creating sane defaults should always be preferred over introducing new config options [00:22:23] (from the usability point of view, that is) [00:24:09] uhhh... there are plenty of config options that create things that need to be changed in the database afaik... [00:24:30] All you do then is run a maintenance script to rebuild everything, or just wait and ignore it [00:25:00] parser caches do expire, and as I remember when they get reparsed data is updated [00:25:45] hmm i will have a look and try something like you suggested [00:26:52] 03dantman * r38970 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_ParserFunctions.php: [00:26:52] Unstrip the delimiter in #arraymap[template] before making use of it. [00:26:52] This will allow the trick to be made use of in order to allow whitespace such as line breaks to be used as a delimiter. [00:27:05] Heh... man [00:27:34] ^_^ I committed that over 20 minutes ago... [00:27:51] I think it polls rather than actively being alerted [00:28:16] Well, normally when I commit it notifies within a few seconds [00:28:23] never more than a minute or two [00:29:01] 03dale * r38973 10/branches/MetavidWiki-exp/MetavidWiki/includes/ (3 files in 2 dirs): some updates for stream interface [00:33:15] 03brion * r38974 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: Don't freak out about #redirect: [[blah]], this was relatively common usage in older Wikipedia edits. [00:42:52] how can I put subcategories in mediawiki [00:46:29] JZA: put a link in the category you want to be the subcategory to the category you want as its parent [00:46:52] just as you would a normal page [00:50:29] 03(NEW) Links to non-existent articles shouldn't have class "stub" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15091 normal; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (david.doherty) [00:50:55] 03(mod) Links to non-existent articles shouldn't have class "stub" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15091 (10david.doherty) [01:17:13] 03aaron * r38975 10/branches/REL1_13/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/ (ProblemPages_body.php ValidationStatistics_body.php): backport some tweaks/fixes [01:24:27] n8 [01:46:38] 03leon * r38976 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Skin.php: remove the somehow unnecessary comment [01:54:53] 03krimpet * r38977 10/trunk/extensions/TitleBlacklist/ (4 files): Fixes for problems mentioned in r38967 [02:00:31] anybody know.. what changes will be made if a page is created?? [02:00:44] see Article::doEdit() [02:01:01] anybody know.. what changes in database (in table level) will be made if a page is created?? [02:02:18] i know it will use ..._text and .._page table.. but any others table that will get affected.. .. and in what way all these tables get affected.. ? [02:02:50] 03dantman * r38979 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormClasses.inc: Bugfix. Semantic forms should not dish out a fatal php error causing the white page of death on save if an invalid title is used in a form. Just gracefully fallback when an invalid title is used. [02:08:07] when editing a wiki page how to put something on the next line instead of having it show up on the same line? [02:10:01]
[02:17:41] thx [02:18:04] does profiling logs sql query ?? [02:32:21] 03krimpet * r38980 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Linker.php: Don't add the 'stub' class to redlinks [02:34:59] 03(FIXED) Links to non-existent articles shouldn't have class "stub" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15091 +comment (10francine) [02:40:10] Hi, i'm having a problem with floats and a template I made. the [edit] link is misplaced. here's an example: http://cookiepedia.nfshost.com/index.php/Benjamin%27s_Muffins [02:40:14] how can I fix this? [02:41:52] 03(WONTFIX) Username Blacklist creates huge regexes, which could unintentionally crash PCRE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14941 +comment (10francine) [02:47:00] help? [02:47:12] ? [02:47:53] oh [02:47:58] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_fix_bunched-up_edit_links [02:50:37] that's what i've been trying to avoid... a {{clear}} [02:52:28] hi all [02:53:05] is it possible to ask for some help? [02:53:52] always [02:54:13] Hmm, what's the simplest way to check whether a title is in a particular namespace? [02:54:40] Emufarmers, via PHP, or in wikitext? [02:55:15] Guest29719, yes, go ahead and ask. :) [02:55:37] I'm really new at this. my wiki is working, but I don't have an admin. I checked the faq and tried to run maintentence/createAndPromote.php but I'm told I don't have permission to run it on my server [02:55:39] Krimpet: In PHP [02:56:31] Emren: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#Alter_the_database [02:56:38] Emufarmers, Title::getNamespace() [02:56:58] I'm hesitant to do that cause I'm afraid I'll mess something us [02:57:00] *up [02:57:31] Follow the instructions on the page and you'll be fine [02:57:39] e.g. if ($sometitle->getNamespace() == NS_TALK) { whatever; } [02:58:05] Krimpet: Thanks; it was really those constants that I was looking for [02:58:58] Emufarmers, ah, see http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/d4/d54/Defines_8php-source.html#l00037 :) [03:10:13] so MW and WP run 1.14alpha, yet mw.org homepage says that 1.13.0rc1 is the latest, not 1.13. Either MW is missing something or I'm missing something. Has 1.13 not been officially "stabilized", does the count go to 1.14 before 1.13.0 not rc comes out? [03:11:12] Smaug: It's a continuous integration model. [03:11:28] Currently 1.13 release candidate 1 is being tested before 1.13 final is released. [03:11:37] i get that [03:11:52] Meanwhile, Wikimedia wikis use the latest software, 1.14. In a few months, that will be released. [03:11:55] but have 1.13 stable and 1.14 separated [03:12:07] Yes, 1.13 was branched a few weeks ago. [03:12:10] Smaug, the thing is, Wikimedia uses the latest "bleeding edge" version from SVN. [03:12:12] i see [03:12:18] Krimpet: yeah, i'm aware [03:12:34] i just thought 1.14 would be a continuation of 1.13 directly [03:12:41] Just think of it as though 1.14 isn't a "real" version yet [03:12:58] It's just the name given to the trunk [03:13:02] so to speak [03:13:04] yeah, 1.14 is kinda a misnomer. [03:13:17] Well, I guess they kind of have to call it something [03:13:27] It's 1.14 beta, so to speak. [03:13:27] r643495 wouldn't be very pretty :) [03:13:31] i understand how to think of it, I just didn't know if someone forgot to put stable 1.13 on MW, and i didn't realize that it was branched [03:13:51] Emufarmers: indeed. :) [03:14:05] I don't think so, although I thought Tim was saying that he was going to release 1.13rc2 yesterday [03:14:32] Hmm. Another release candidate, eh? [03:14:53] ahhh....i want to upgrade, but I'm going to wait until stable comes out so I don't have to upgrade twice [03:15:07] Looks like he did branch it. [03:15:12] !rev 38838 [03:15:12] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "rev". You might try: !access !exclamation !flaggedrevs !lockdown !moderation !oversight !preventaccess !preventingaccess !protect !r !revert !rights !rollback !toc !undo !userrights !wysiwyg [03:15:19] Bastard bot. [03:15:23] !r 38838 [03:15:23] --mwbot-- http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=38838 [03:15:50] Not sure if that's an actual branch or just a ... [03:16:29] !rev alias r [03:16:29] --mwbot-- Successfully added alias: rev [03:16:31] :) [03:16:40] Heh. [03:17:25] it's been branched [03:17:35] there's a REL1_13 directory in /branches [03:17:46] ok, I was following the instructions and I got an error [03:18:01] Skizzerz_Away: But that's been there for two weeks [03:18:05] yeah... [03:18:10] There seems to be an error in your SQL query. The MySQL server error output below, if there is any, may also help you in diagnosing the problem [03:18:10] ERROR: Unknown Punctuation String @ 58 [03:18:10] STR: >, [03:18:10] SQL: INSERT INTO user_groups ( ug_user, ug_group ) VALUES ( <1>, 'bureaucrat' ), ( <1>, 'sysop' ); [03:18:10] SQL query: [03:18:12] INSERT INTO user_groups ( ug_user, ug_group ) VALUES ( <1>, 'bureaucrat' ), ( <1>, 'sysop' ); [03:18:14] MySQL said: Documentation [03:18:14] We're talking about rc1 vs. rc2. [03:18:16] #1064 - You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '<1>, 'bureaucrat' ), ( <1>, 'sysop' )' at line 1 [03:18:19] No REL1_13_0RC1 in tags [03:18:26] Er, rc2 [03:18:33] (stupid copy and paste ;o) [03:19:28] Emren: um... and what were you doing at the time the error occurred? [03:19:33] Emren: Remove the angle brackets around 1 [03:19:49] Then run the query again [03:20:26] I'm trying to make myself a bureaucrat on my wiki because I have no rights as of now [03:20:54] and I couldn't run the maintenece/createAndPromote.php script cause my browser said I didn't have permission on the server [03:20:58] yeah, the <>'s should not be there. [03:21:16] although I believe you need to wrap the 1 in single quotes... not sure though [03:21:45] Skizzerz: I don't think so; SQL treats that field as an int, doesn't it? [03:21:45] uh, your browser can't run maintenance scripts anyway [03:22:02] Emufarmers: probably [03:22:06] be stupid if it didnt' [03:23:39] I don't know... [03:24:26] Emren: anyway, just re-run that query without the angled brackets and it should work [03:25:51] if I'm a bureaucrat, shouldn't I have access to special:UserRights? [03:26:57] yes [03:27:13] ok, then it didn't work [03:27:29] I'm also getting this error "Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still doesn't work, try logging out and logging back in." [03:27:38] and I can't seem to stay logged in [03:27:44] could that have something to do with it [03:29:47] do you have cookies enabled on your browser? [03:31:09] yes, I have firefox set to accept cookies from site [03:31:11] Check Special:Listusers, it'll tell you waht groups you are in [03:32:30] ok, I'm listed as an Admin but not a bureaucrate [03:33:25] are there any other accounts listed as bureaucrat? [03:34:45] no [03:38:16] 03(mod) Warning on editing other user's userpage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5865 (10N/A) [03:38:47] 03(mod) Warning on editing other user's userpage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5865 (10N/A) [03:38:54] I have admin access, which I guess is good enough for now. I guess my biggest problem is the loss of session data [03:42:04] I have cookies enabled. is there any reason you could think of that I'm losing session data and dont' stay logged in? [03:42:52] Is this a dedicated server or normal shared hosting? [03:43:08] shared hosting [03:43:44] Then it most likely isn't configuration of the server [03:44:06] hi ah i'm getting a problem with the rss / atom feeds in firefox 3--- anyone know why ? [03:44:07] could it be a problem with the install? [03:44:29] some error about xml parsing.. blahbalh not at start of entity .... etc etc. ^ [03:44:37] Have you changed many settings in mediawiki? [03:45:09] who me ? [03:45:11] not really [03:45:37] I can't stay logged in long enough to do anything. as soon as I change pages, I'm logged out unless I click "remember user" and then I can't edit pages cause it says that have a loss of session data [03:46:37] Emren: Have you edited any of the .php files? [03:47:28] "asks the dumb husband who's given up" He edited localsettings.php [03:47:54] dbmoodb: What firefox version, check in Help -> About [03:48:00] Emren: What settings in it? [03:48:10] he put in our site logo [03:48:21] Nothing else? [03:48:40] he doesn't think so. he was trying to be careful [03:48:50] firefox 3 [03:48:52] firefox version 2.0.0.16 [03:49:03] i already told you [03:52:59] TheFearow: ... [03:56:13] Sorry, had to run off for a second [03:56:27] do you think I need to reinstall it? [03:56:38] Emren: Doesn't sound like a config problem, what mediawiki version are you running? [03:56:54] dmoodb: What minor version? e.g. mine is 3.0.1 [03:57:22] Firefox/3.0.1 [03:57:37] Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008072820 [03:58:36] 1.12 [03:59:04] Do you already have much data/users? [03:59:37] who ? [03:59:47] 03(NEW) default action is not to create new thread (no subject) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15092 trivial; normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (jt) [03:59:48] Emren [04:00:30] dbmoodb: Hmmm, I have the same firefox version as you, but I can get at the feeds of the wikis I have tried. Which wiki are you having trouble on? [04:00:46] just 3 [04:00:48] and no [04:00:52] no data [04:00:54] mine [04:00:58] hey everyone :) quick question - where is function importScript defined? I'm getting an error msg from FF... [04:01:01] http://mu-cs.com [04:01:03] and the users are me, my husband and an admin account [04:01:54] importScript is not defined ... and ... importScriptURI is not defined [04:02:40] These errors seem to prevent tables from being collapsible [04:02:59] Would really appreciate help from an advanced user! [04:04:46] that's a good point. I hope you know how much I appreciate the help. You are awesome Fearow! [04:07:31] user_brad: Link? [04:08:25] how the hell do i make it so you need to register to make changes? I can't figure it out for the life of me. [04:08:38] !access [04:08:38] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [04:08:45] Emufarmers: e.g. http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7856&highlight=collapsible [04:08:52] thanks [04:09:30] ah any ideas ? [04:14:41] Ugh... "You know your computer is shit when... It takes longer to save onto it's own harddrive than it takes to save to a remote file over sftp" [04:15:22] to dantman: my sympathies.. [04:15:45] Dantman: Maybe you just have a really good connection :) [04:15:58] T_T No sympathies, please... well, at least not pings... this machine has issues switching windows as well [04:16:02] to dantman: hey, do you have a second please to point me to where importScript() is declared? [04:16:19] importScript()? for what? [04:16:24] Emren: I would recommend reinstalling, and maybe if that doesn't work trying the latest mediawiki release candidate [04:16:37] JS? [04:16:50] dbmoodb: Have you installed any extensions or changed any rss-related settings? [04:16:54] I'm getting a FF console error message when I try to run the following page on my own wiki.. [04:17:01] no rss changes [04:17:04] extensions yes [04:17:07] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Collapsing [04:17:10] Which ones? [04:17:19] google maps user import .... ah [04:17:23] nothing rss related [04:17:32] to dantman: yes, JS hassle [04:17:49] Check the pages for them on mediawiki.org, see if they have any known bugs or incompatibilities (check the talk page as well) [04:18:14] I copied every JS and CSS page from en.wiki that seemed remotely related to my own wiki (1.12) [04:18:43] user_brad: importScript is a custom function that enwiki and a few others use [04:19:18] yes, right, where is it declared? [04:19:35] please [04:19:50] I'm looking it up now [04:19:54] Nope [04:19:59] thank you so much! [04:20:27] I'm still here too if you have any insights into my session loss/logging in problem [04:20:38] wIkibits.js line 55 [04:20:47] if not, I guess I'll try reinstalling tomorrow [04:20:57] There is a copy of it at the very top of http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js, same one as enwiki, you'll need from "// Adding functions to import external scripts [04:20:58] " to above " // for backwards compatibility [04:20:58] " [04:21:03] Emren: Did you take my last suggestion? [04:21:14] Emren: I would recommend reinstalling, and maybe if that doesn't work trying the latest mediawiki release candidate [04:21:32] Dantman: thanks! [04:22:02] Dantman: is it possible that Wikibits.js isn't getting loaded before common.js? [04:22:17] wikibits.js is always loaded first [04:22:21] hmm [04:22:24] one sec, going to blame [04:23:34] Dantman: FF is balking at function sysopFunctions() [04:23:47] this line: importScript( "MediaWiki:Sysop.js" ); [04:24:05] and says "importScript is not defined" [04:24:33] 1.12 isnt' the latest? [04:24:58] yes, I know, but I'm waiting for official 1.13 [04:25:06] importScript was introduced in 1.13 [04:25:23] just checked svn [04:25:44] hmm, strange, as collapsible tables suddenly stopped working for me in 1.10 installation [04:26:06] have tested on two different machines, both FF & IE [04:26:54] Emren: There is a release candidate (sort of like pre-release) of 1.13 [04:27:05] It's not the recommended version, but it may be that it fixes the bugs you have [04:27:48] I'd recommend giving it a try if a reinstall doesnt fix it [04:27:55] thanks Fearow, but I suspect this is a localSettings or similar issue [04:28:54] Dantman: I saw your expert-for-hire posting on mwusers.com [04:29:03] mhmm [04:29:36] is this something you & I could troubleshoot off-line for $X via PP? [04:30:20] what wiki? I expect this is actually just some minor issue. [04:30:31] I presume you know your way around MW to figure out WTF's happening relatively easily? [04:30:47] thank you so much! I appreciate the help. I'll be back if it doesn't work :) [04:31:00] agreed. it was happening in 1.10 and continuing in 1.12 [04:31:03] Ya... ^_^ that, and I have a nice handy web developer toolbar that lets me read JS in the same order that the browser does [04:31:33] will you be around tomorrow at all? [04:32:04] Well, I'm arround now... as for tommorrow... probably at my dad's... (I think), but that's good to (his computer is better) [04:32:20] I have to crash now, up early tomorrow [04:32:39] mkay... I'll keep working on breaking the preprocessor... heh [04:32:41] what say $25 via PP for definitive problem solving? [04:32:49] mkay, sounds good [04:33:20] please check out my posting on the board, and similar postings on collapsible problems [04:33:32] http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7856&highlight=collapsible [04:33:42] What time zone are you in? [04:34:05] PST, but don't judge by that... my sleep schedule shifts and often is an odd one [04:34:24] I'm in CST [04:34:24] is there a way to delete a revision or set of revisions on MediaWiki? [04:34:54] as a bureaucrat/sysop, that is. I just realized i made edits via IP that should be on my username--and I don't want my ip available to the public [04:34:54] I'll email you via your contact info on the board tomorrow sometime... [04:35:17] how does that sound? [04:35:35] mkay [04:35:47] is that like Mr. Mackey? [04:35:56] (on south park) [04:36:10] j/k [04:36:15] mkay; a bit of a verbal twist on ok [04:36:49] I prefer tweaking my writing to emphasise the wording to sound more like it would when spoken [04:36:57] yeah, I know.. just joking, as that character says mm-kay a lot [04:37:01] heh [04:37:02] very good [04:37:18] catch you tomorrow sometime hopefully [04:37:36] Jinx: There's no current way to just delete some revisions... however, you can delete a whole page, and then undelete all the revisions 'except' the ones you want to stay deleted. [04:38:07] is that, uh... risky? this is the main page heh [04:38:34] You ever deleted the main page before? [04:38:37] nope [04:38:47] Actually... there is a bit of an option to avoid cruft... [04:39:21] all ears [04:39:22] well, eyes [04:39:25] Move mainpage to trash, delete trash, undelete all actual mainpage revisions, move trash back to mainpage, delete trash [04:40:04] The end result will be a clean mainpage, and a deleted 'trash' page which has the deleted revisions in it's deleted archives [04:40:26] That way if you ever delete the mainpage again, you won't accidentally undelete those revisions you wanted deleted [04:40:34] alright [04:40:45] will i need to select each revision to recover? [04:40:52] or can i select all before date N [04:41:36] individually... it's easier to use some browser trick to select all the checkboxes and then unselect the ones you want to leave deleted [04:41:51] i have firefox's checkall, so that's good heh [04:42:08] when you say move to trash... you mean hit "delete" ? [04:42:11] ^_^ Web Developer Toolbar's "Populate form fields" works to. [04:42:13] or is there something else? [04:42:15] No [04:42:23] Move to a article titled [[Trash]] [04:42:28] oh [04:42:31] literally [[Trash]] [04:42:44] ^_^ it's just a way of changing where the archived revisions end up [04:43:01] i'm surprised they haven't had a lot of requests for deleting revisions [04:43:11] even if only to prune the history [04:43:27] ;) What do you mean by that? It's an age old ToDo people keep asking for... heh [04:43:33] They have, as far as I know. But it's not a priority [04:43:42] rev_deleted [04:44:05] It's also supposed to obsolete oversight when complete [04:44:05] heh... i guess it's not (a priority) [04:44:25] As there is Oversight available, but it can be a bit like shooting a mouse with a rocket [04:44:28] It allows deleting individually the user, content, comment, etc... [04:44:32] is oversight an extension? i don't pretend to know even how to install an extension :) [04:44:42] heh, ya [04:44:46] It is, but it removes it from even administrators view [04:44:52] ^_^ You can always alter the database [04:44:57] Only the people with oversight can see it [04:45:02] you can always give oversight access to all sysops, too [04:45:03] give me the SQL to do it :) [04:45:14] and it can be your rev_deleted until that exists [04:45:18] Uhm... actually even people with oversight cant... [04:45:23] can't undelete, can see [04:45:23] only the logs, heh [04:45:31] Hmm, they changed it? [04:45:40] *Splarka shrugs [04:45:49] last I used it was at Wikia, and you could see the text, but not undelete it [04:46:33] I was under the impression that when oversight was used it was moved to a black hole of a table where only a system administrator could ever get any access to the content [04:46:44] nope, unless they changed it [04:53:12] alright... got through all but the last step, Danny_B [04:53:14] Dantman* [04:53:28] how do i delete the trash page? it keeps referencing it back to the main page [04:53:58] under the title there should be a link that'll take you back to the page with a &redirect=no that'll stop the redirect [04:54:49] k [04:55:57] no link, but i can put in &redirect=no myself [04:57:09] ahh, there we go [04:57:26] Main Page (Trashed Revisions) is now deleted [04:57:36] i suppose i won't worry about permanantly deleting it [05:04:13] 03(NEW) Add (watch) to Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15093 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (johnnymrninja) [06:09:09] 03dantman * r38981 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add 3 new functions to the PPTemplateFrames to allow extensions to efficiently extract the whole list of parameters (or only numbered or named) passed to the template they are nested inside of. [06:16:46] 03(FIXED) Enable subpages in template namespace for portuguese wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15076 +comment (10jeluf) [06:21:16] 03(FIXED) Disable local uploads on BG Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14836 +comment (10jeluf) [06:23:41] 03(mod) Add class="ns-talk" / "ns-subject" to - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15079 (10sxwiki) [06:32:52] hi ah i have two blank lines in my rss / atom feeds at the top [06:36:47] ba [06:41:46] anyone ? [06:43:46] hi ah i have two blank lines in my rss / atom feeds at the top [06:47:26] Whohoo... sane loop functions ftw! [06:47:47] dbmoodb: What version of MW, that sounds like an old bug which has already been fixed. [06:49:01] well its [06:49:32] 1.12.0 [06:50:17] Dantman: ? [06:50:28] Probably [06:50:36] I suggest updating to 1.13 when it's released [06:50:51] Dantman: know which file is used as the base for 1.12.0? [06:50:56] cuz i can't find the feed file [06:51:51] 03(mod) Create Portal namespace on Gan Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14622 +comment (10jeluf) [06:59:16] mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmwtf? [06:59:25] 03(FIXED) Create patroller group on Danish Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14625 +comment (10jeluf) [07:00:25] Whats the irc.wikimedia.org channel for mediawiki.org? [07:03:32] 03aaron * r38982 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/maintenance/updateStats.inc: dev/null doesn't want to cooperate :) [07:04:39] 03aaron * r38983 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/ValidationStatistics_body.php: dev/null doesn't want to cooperate :) [07:05:36] #TheFearow: mediawiki.wikipedia [07:06:25] Ahh, that seems counterintuitive but oh well [07:06:27] Thanks [07:08:47] Werdna: can you help me ? [07:09:05] dbmoodb: No, you are beyond help. [07:09:32] dbmoodb: what's your problem? [07:09:48] two blank lines before my xml declaration on my wiki [07:10:07] Anyone here have an editor that can do bracket matching? I can't find where I have too many brackets. [07:10:14] so it doesn't work [07:10:19] for rss / atom / xml [07:14:47] Lady_Aleena: Try re-indenting, then usually it becomes more obvious [07:15:11] TheFearow, re-indenting? I don't indent in the first place. [07:15:48] Lady_Aleena: If you properly indent then you can see exactly where there are too many brackets, it's one of the main reasons for it [07:16:38] TheFearow, I never learned how and where to indent. I am a byte saver which means that I only use the minimal white space required to make things work and have been that way for years. [07:17:09] Lady_Aleena: Ahh, usually after each { you indent once, then unindent for the closing } [07:18:19] *Lady_Aleena glurbles. [07:19:41] bah anyone ? [07:21:18] ... [07:22:14] mmm.. dbmoodb: seems like someone else had this prob [07:22:41] and it was a long convoluted search to find they had some extra spaces before (IIRC) [07:24:33] ok [07:25:02] you might also grep http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/chanlogs/%23mediawiki/ [07:25:06] seems like it was this year [07:25:22] *Lady_Aleena goes from glurbles to growls. [07:25:32] hey, no feeding the LA [07:25:36] what should i grep for ? [07:25:41] *Splarka calls the zookeeper [07:25:48] probably "rss feed" or something [07:26:12] and maybe "spaces before" [07:26:17] or "linefeeds before" [07:29:46] Splarka: well ... its not that easyts [07:30:33] *Splarka nods [07:30:39] but that's all I can think of [07:30:44] *Splarka goes back to distracted/idling [07:31:07] *Lady_Aleena knows where she screwed up. [07:31:13] Lady_Aleena: byte saver? [07:31:17] are you serious? [07:32:35] Werdna, yes, I am a byte saver. I have saved over 2 Mbs of space with CSS and SSI on my website. [07:32:45] It might be as high as 3. [07:33:06] Lady_Aleena: how much space do you have on your website? [07:33:12] 10 Mbs [07:33:21] Lady_Aleena: ... how much do you pay? [07:33:41] The space is complimentary with my internet service. [07:34:28] I don't get many bells and whistles either. No PHP, ASP, MySql, and something else. [07:34:33] For $2/month, you can get 500MB [07:34:44] with PHP, mysql, whatever. [07:35:17] for $8/month, you can get 500GB [07:36:31] Werdna, I am not so concerned, I haven't added anything new to my site in ages. Too much to do on Wikipedia. [07:40:45] ah there is no diff between the things... [07:40:52] i did a diff and cmopared the thing with an older version [07:40:55] there is no difference [07:41:20] dbmoodb: open your LocalSetings.php [07:41:24] scroll down to the very bottom [07:41:26] is there a ?> [07:42:14] yes [07:42:30] remove it [07:42:31] then try again [07:42:58] ah no difference [07:44:10] Splarka: loops in MediaWiki were evil, right? heh... http://dev.wiki-tools.com/wiki/Test [07:44:53] any ideas what i should do ? [07:50:01] I am going to cry. I swear, I think I have one thing fixed and everything else goes to hell. [07:50:43] *dbmoodb wipes and replaces with didiwiki [07:50:58] Lady_Aleena: indent your code! [07:54:30] Werdna, that wouldn't help when I use the wrong parameter in the wrong place. [07:55:02] Lady_Aleena: Just a quick sanity check, btw [07:55:09] 07:37 < Lady_Aleena> Werdna, yes, I am a byte saver. I have saved over 2 Mbs of space with CSS and SSI on my website. [07:55:13] 07:37 < Lady_Aleena> It might be as high as 3. [07:55:18] Actually, a non-existant parameter. [07:55:46] ?> My calculations, based on 20% whitespace (drawn from MediaWiki code), and a line length of 29 characters per line, you would need 190k lines of code in your webspace to save 1MB of space by excluding whitespace. [07:55:56] Werdna, I am debugging a template on Wikipedia. [07:56:00] dbmoodb: doubt it. [07:56:40] well... this is rahter bs [07:56:49] Werdna, you haven't taken into account all of the depreciated tags and attributes that I was able to remove because of CSS. [07:56:53] dbmoodb: well, what have you changed from the default install. [07:57:29] Lady_Aleena: 1MB of pure HTML is like 40,000 lines. [07:57:48] added a few things google maps thing... google calendar .... importusers db [07:57:49] that's it [07:57:51] really [07:58:17] Werdna, and also all of the junk that Word put into my pages when I was WYSIWYGing it. [07:58:36] i managed apparnely to remove one of hte blank lines rofl [07:58:39] heh, Word I can believe. [07:58:46] but you were talking about excluding whitespace. [07:59:11] Werdna, yes, I have some pages with one unbroken line. [07:59:23] Mostly redirects. [07:59:28] 03(mod) Pressing 'show changes' button shows faulty changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8171 +comment (10matthew.flaschen) [07:59:31] depends on what they do [07:59:47] if it's and no, but you can fake it [08:58:06] see Template:CURRENTMINUTE on en.wp [08:58:19] I would rather wait for the magic word, if it ever gets here. [08:58:31] 03(NEW) Incorrect Wikiquote robots.txt entries. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15095 major; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (jackdt) [08:58:40] ... [08:58:41] why? [08:58:46] #titleparts does more, and is cooler [08:58:50] and much more powerful [08:58:57] just use it [08:58:58] 03(NEW) Unnecessary purging when sighting templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15096 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (fearow00) [08:59:11] Splarka, what is #titleparts, a string function or dynamic one? [08:59:26] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions#.23titleparts: [09:00:14] Lady_Aleena: it's like you're asking for the sun and moon, when you already have them [09:00:30] Splarka, I wasn't the first with the idea. [09:00:49] heh [09:00:54] but you're the cookie monster [09:00:56] tell you what [09:01:03] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14949 is where I got the idea from. [09:01:11] make {{ROOTPAGENAME}} as a template [09:01:23] and when the magic word is created, that will take effect and the template can be deleted [09:01:25] ^_^ Well, least a parser function like that isn't as evil as my #foreach [09:01:28] Wrong one. [09:01:31] magic word* [09:01:41] that way, if it is ever created, everyone happy, and until then, everyone happy [09:01:48] *Lady_Aleena is reading #titleparts. [09:04:09] how to modify the Toolbox in the left column? [09:04:33] !sidebar [09:04:33] --mwbot-- To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [09:04:44] Werdna: currently, calling an unexisting function in AF causes a parse error. should it do something else instead, like return an empty string? [09:06:03] Splarka, I will have to do some experimenting in my sandbox first, since I need to figure out how I am going to get rid of the namespace bit. :) [09:06:42] namespace bit? use {{PAGENAME}} instead of {{FULLPAGENAME}} [09:07:09] flyingparchment: hmm.. I don't know. [09:07:42] What should I call a function that returns a list of queues which can be requeued to when reviewing a page in a given queue (deletion queueing) [09:08:01] get_queues_for_page [09:08:11] in MW [09:08:20] and it's not for page, it's really for queue. [09:09:13] is that array merge in r38981 safe? [09:09:28] ah, never mind, I changed what it was doing anyway [09:09:37] Nikerabbit: r38981 doesn't mean anything to me. [09:10:15] !rev 38981 [09:10:15] --mwbot-- http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=38981 [09:10:27] Splarka, isn't this for the "navigation" box? [09:11:24] yannf: it is for the whole sidebar, however... [09:11:32] ah ok [09:11:41] you can only adjust the location of the toolbox in relation to search/navigation/languages and custom ones [09:11:47] you can't edit the contents of the toolbox [09:12:05] well, you can by massively hacking the skin, OR by javascript with addPortletLink() [09:12:11] ah that what i wanted to do [09:12:34] or maybe there is an extension hook now to add toolbox links... Werdna? was that something you were gonna do? [09:12:44] Splarka, okay, I guess this will work: [[{{#titleparts:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|1}}|{{#titleparts:{{PAGENAME}}|1}}]] [09:12:51] ok, i will add new links in the navigation box, that's easier ;) [09:12:52] addPortletLink('p-tb',link,text) [09:13:08] heh [09:13:13] well, you can also... [09:13:24] create a new box like *Site Tools [09:13:41] and rename the one below to 'Page tools' (per the messages at Special:Allmessages) [09:13:58] LA: happy happy [09:14:29] ok, thanks [09:16:20] 03river * r38984 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/parser_native/ (aftypes.cpp aftypes.h parser.cpp): implement unary - + operators [09:16:30] [[User:{{ROOTPAGENAME}}|{{ROOTPAGENAME}}]] woud have been simpler. [09:19:37] to quote Meatwad "cry me a river" [09:20:03] *Lady_Aleena cries a river. [09:20:22] Werdna: instead of 'int' and 'double' types (double in particular is problematic) what about an arbitrary precision number type? [09:31:07] I am too tired to continue this morning...see you all later. [09:32:39] 03river * r38985 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/parser_native/parser.cpp: support hex (10x), oct (10o) and binary (10b) literals [09:41:21] flyingparchment: you can do that. I just carried over "numbers" and made it into something sensible. [09:42:07] mmh [09:42:33] well, i would just make everything double, except that floating point rounding errors cause unexpected problems... and 'long int' is usually having more precision than double for integers [09:42:41] but a proper floating point library would avoid that [09:47:33] mmm [09:47:47] In the scheme of things, I don't think it will matter a great deal. [09:50:03] flyingparchment: why do it support only lower-case hex nums (Bx fails while bx works) and why don't it use usual 0x and 0 syntax? [09:50:27] river@harmony:~/parser_native>./expr '0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1' [09:50:27] 1 [09:50:27] river@harmony:~/parser_native>./expr '(0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1) == 1.0' [09:50:27] 0 [09:50:36] Werdna: ;-) [09:50:52] VasilievVV: why not C notation: because non-programmings might wonder why 0123456 isn't the number they expect [09:51:07] VasilievVV: i see no reason not to support uppercase designators, though. i will add that [09:51:52] flyingparchment: oh good :P [09:55:45] $ ./expr '"\""' [09:55:45] \" [09:59:54] 03river * r38986 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/parser_native/parser.cpp: [09:59:54] - match value before variable, otherwise FFFF is matched as a variable and a parse error occurs [09:59:54] - support uppercase X, O, B for base indicators [10:02:17] flyingparchment: also we should add functions like ord() and chr() in PHP (or something like "\xFF\u0020") [10:02:43] VasilievVV: ord() and chr() convert between ASCII characters and ASCII values? [10:03:07] I think yes [10:03:08] Remember that we're writing a simple filter syntax, not a full-blown programming language. [10:03:26] And that this is *not* our last opportunity to introduce new functions, operators, etc. [10:03:39] Werdna: but additional functionality doesn't hurt [10:03:56] Perhaps we should wait until there is demand for the new functionality before we add it. [10:04:06] *Werdna shrugs. Could be a waste of time. [10:04:43] Does MediaWiki allow to store binary data in page text? [10:05:02] by binary do you mean not valid utf8? [10:05:11] Yep [10:06:57] VasilievVV: actually, \xFF is already supported. it just doesn't work. [10:07:00] (fixing that now) [10:09:15] af_length(std::vector const &args) { [10:09:15] if (args.empty()) [10:09:15] throw exception( "Not enough arguments to lcase" ); [10:16:15] what is the plugin that allows you to have an edit window interface simialr to that on the wikipedia site? [10:16:52] you mean the insert links below the edit window? CharInsert [10:16:59] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CharInsert [10:17:34] controlled via: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Edittools [10:18:55] ok, thats half of what im looking for. how about the buttons above the editbox? [10:19:25] those are core, no extension [10:20:05] it is a user preference, enabled by default, see $wgDefaultUserOptions / showtoolbar [10:20:06] is there a way i can add them into my installation of the software? [10:20:19] you mean, add more to the defaults? [10:20:31] there should be some there already, unless you're using a custom skin [10:20:50] perhaps you have a javascript problem breaking them? [10:21:03] i have mediawiki instaleld on my local computer using mostly defaults, except for a couple of add-ins. if there is an option to enable those extra buttons, i dont know where it is [10:21:21] Special:Preferences [editing] [10:21:25] but they should be enabled by default [10:21:33] what browser? check for javascript errors [10:21:57] i would like to reproduce this http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar [10:22:07] one multilingual wiki [10:22:13] yannf: do you have 1.13+? [10:22:15] with localized sidebar [10:22:24] ahh [10:22:24] 1.12.0 [10:22:28] no javascript erors, and js is enabled. the extra buttons apepar fine on teh wikipedia site, but not on my local instalaltion of mediawiki [10:22:40] 1.13rc1 doesn't work for me [10:22:40] Karen: what skin? monobook? [10:22:43] yes [10:22:48] monobook [10:22:54] not you, Karen ^_^ [10:22:57] unless you're the same people [10:22:58] ;) [10:23:00] i have v 1.12 instaleld locally [10:23:08] arr [10:23:17] Karen: I want to know your skin, not your version [10:23:23] yannf: I want to know your version, not your skin [10:23:24] default skin [10:23:27] haha [10:23:30] well, it should work [10:23:38] Splarka, 1.12.0 [10:23:55] Karen: view edit page source, see if javascript addButton() functions are shown a few pages down [10:24:09] yannf: there is a way to force untranslated messages like sidebar and mainpage to translate [10:24:13] hello [10:24:15] $wgForceUIMsgAsContentMsg [10:24:35] commons does it I believe [10:24:40] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgForceUIMsgAsContentMsg [10:25:13] splarka: some of them are. but specifically, i was hoping to be able to use teh superscript/subscrtipt buttons, which arent there [10:25:29] ahh, Karen: you can add to it [10:25:36] site-wide JS with mwCustomEditButtons[] object [10:25:51] how do i add them? [10:26:25] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Custom_edit_buttons [10:27:04] upload the image, 23x22 pixels, and then define it and the action it performs in site-wide JS [10:27:42] lots of buttons can be found on commons.wikimedia [10:27:43] aha, thanks [10:28:18] yannf: any luck localizing the sidebar? [10:30:20] Splarka, this doesn't work http://www.wikilivres.info/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar/fr [10:30:47] mmm, maybe the sidebar isn't called normally... [10:31:20] i will try with $wgForceUIMsgAsContentMsg [10:31:21] ahh [10:31:28] they don't actually translate the sidebar [10:31:34] ah? [10:31:34] just the text and the links [10:31:46] put any link-messages you want translated into wgForceUIMsgAsContentMsg I think [10:32:16] for example: [10:32:18] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar [10:32:35] **portal-url|portal [10:32:44] usually portal is translated and portal-url is not [10:33:01] you should be able to add portal-url to $wgForceUIMsgAsContentMsg and have it translatable [10:33:29] VasilievVV: the problem with ord() is we don't have a 'character' type. should it just operate on the first character of the string? [10:33:34] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Watchlist?uselang=fr and http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Watchlist?uselang=en both have the same 4 items under 'navigation' [10:33:49] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Portail_communautaire http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Community_Portal but the links are actually different [10:35:12] latestfiles-url|latestfiles doesn't work for me... [10:35:25] why do i have to log in to sourceforge to read mailing list archives? [10:35:34] it links to http://www.wikilivres.info/wiki/Latestfiles-url [10:35:45] splarka: shoudl teh file common.js already exist in my instlation? if so, where shoudl I find it? [10:35:52] does MediaWiki:Latestfiles-url exist yannf? [10:35:58] if not, it uses the text as the link, so create that message [10:36:08] Karen: not a file, a page [10:36:13] [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] [10:36:22] it takes some getting used to [10:38:00] yannf: http://p.defau.lt/?9xozDd6J4KJEJoMiVMqQYg [10:38:16] as suspected, commons has all the sidebar links in the forceUImsg array [10:38:16] Splarka, ok latestfiles-url|latestfiles works now [10:38:25] sweet [10:38:32] *Splarka was just guessing, feels vidicated now, haha [10:38:36] vind^ [10:38:37] 03river * r38987 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/parser_native/parser.cpp: support string escapes: \b \t \n \f \r \\ \" \' \xHH \OOO [10:43:50] ok, i got it working. thanks! [10:49:50] Splarka, great, it's even possible to localized "recentchangestext"! ;) [10:49:56] 03rotem * r38988 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageChecks.php: Removing the warning of call-time pass-by-reference; change tested this time. [11:02:32] 03rotem * r38989 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesEn.php MessagesHe.php): Removing colon from links in log events: The colon is shown in Special:Log. The colon is also not necessary in edit summaries, though it doesn't show there, so removing it there too. [11:03:17] 03(mod) Add class="ns-talk" / "ns-subject" to - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15079 (10sxwiki) [11:07:37] 03rotem * r38990 10/branches/REL1_13/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesEn.php MessagesHe.php): Backport from trunk (display fix): Removing colon from links in log events: The colon is shown in Special:Log. The colon is also not necessary in edit summaries, though it doesn't show there, so removing it there too. [11:11:47] hi everyone. There is some extension or software which gives the possibility to change the version of the contents within the wiki page to an older version? [11:12:44] click [history], click the date in the list you want [11:12:55] you are then viewing the old version via oldid= parameter [11:13:19] if you want to make that the current version again, click [edit] on the oldid view, and then simply click [save] [11:13:53] Splarka, yeah i know that feature. But imagine that you want do that without opening a new browser. This is possible? [11:14:05] some kind of software [11:14:07] new browser? [11:14:27] sorry the 'new' word [11:14:35] you want a bot to do this automatically for you? [11:15:20] well, if the bot can do that only when i ask to him. For me can be a good start [11:15:52] so, under what circumstances and what page(s) would this happen? you want it to be done without you doing anything in a browser to instigate it? [11:16:28] sounds odd.. why would this happen so regularly as to require specific software? [11:16:59] 03river * r38991 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/parser_native/affunctions.cpp: better checking for correct # of arguments [11:17:14] yes. Imagine that you use a wiki page to store documentation and you want to update the documentation or change the actual version of the documentation for an old version. [11:17:33] This sounds good if is possible to do that without opening a browser [11:17:43] well, then you use a browser and edit the page... 4 clicks, not hard.. [11:17:54] sounds very odd to do it any other way [11:18:25] you could write a bot, or use the pywikipediabot framework, but it would take a *lot* of these edits to save time over doing it manually, say probably a few hundred ^_^ [11:19:10] I mean, why would you want to revert to an older version on the same article? why not keep separate articles for each major version of the software? [11:19:34] anyway: [11:19:36] !pywikipedia [11:19:36] --mwbot-- pywikipediabot is a bot framework written in Python that allows for easier automated actions on a wiki. For more information, see . [11:19:52] 03(FIXED) Add ability to change category sort method on category page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6387 +comment (10leon) [11:20:23] 03leon * r38992 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [11:20:23] (bug 6387) Introduced new setting $wgCategoryPrefixedDefaultSortkey which [11:20:23] allows having the unprefixed page title as the default category sortkey. [11:20:23] Although creating sane defaults should always be preferred over introducing [11:20:23] new config options, we cannot just remove the old behaviour here, as some [11:20:25] peoply might still rely on it. However, the sortkey {{PAGENAME}} is already [11:20:27] widely used for circumventing the current behaviour. [11:20:31] there is an extension that gives the possibility to update content to the wiki page. This is good for me but would be much better if i can go back in versions [11:22:46] if the only way is introduce a bot [11:23:11] well this sounds much work to introduce one [11:23:24] well, what you ask makes no sense [11:23:57] you can easily access oldid= and even link to it in-wiki with {{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|oldid=123456}} [11:24:11] and you can simply keep multiple forks of the article for different versions [11:24:44] to wiki users here, it probably seems very odd for you to say that everytime you want to view an old version of an article you have to overwrite the current version [11:24:58] so odd that no one has ever wanted to do it before, so no extension exists to do it [11:25:21] yknow? [11:25:41] Splarka, not overwrite, but imagine that in a article you found errors and you want to go back in versions [11:26:06] to eliminate it or reorganize some things [11:26:57] well, right, but why do that with a bot? if you see the errors you are likely in a browser anyway [11:27:06] 4 clicks away [11:27:27] there is even the (undo) feature which lets you undo specific revisions from the past, and automerge them with the top [11:27:33] as long as they don't conflict [11:28:11] there is also [rollback], which might be what you're thinking of [11:28:33] it reverts all the top edits of a single user on a single article, to the last different editor, with one click [11:29:13] if the last 5 editors to [[Foobar]] are: user_1 user_2 user_1 user_3 user_3: rollback on the article will take the page to the second edit by user_1, removing all of user_3's edits [11:29:45] user_1 user_3 user_2 user_3 user_3 <-- would take the top 2 edits by user_3 off but not the earlier one, as user_2 had editited in the meantime [11:29:49] mostly used for antivandalism [11:30:12] *Splarka afks [11:31:56] Splarka, like i said there is a software that already gives the possibility to update content to the wiki. With this you not need to open a browser so many times to put new contents. Now imagine that you figure out that the last update content (that was uploaded by software) has errors and you want go back in versions. Why not do this with software too? [11:31:57] 03(mod) Default sortkey should not contain the page namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6387 summary (10leon) [11:32:39] *Splarka shrugs [11:32:52] because it is a wiki, and it is user content, so users usually control and review the content? [11:32:58] write a bot if your requirements are different ^_^ [11:38:17] maybe this is not your regular question [11:39:03] But is there a way to make an eggdrop bot announce in a chosen channel when there is any edit in any article? [11:40:14] do I need knowlage in PHP to skin? or is it enough to know css? [11:40:27] I couldn't understand it from Manual:Skinning [11:41:31] Dor, some very basics are required to hack existing skins [11:49:01] MaxSem, very basic what? [11:49:02] php? [11:49:13] depends on what you're going to do [11:49:37] Modify the Monobook skin on my wiki [11:49:50] most likely [11:49:57] you can probably reach quite a lot by just using css [11:50:28] 03siebrand * r38993 10/trunk/phase3/languages/classes/LanguageKu_ku.php: Remove empty convertGrammar() [11:51:50] LeonWP, where can I find info about the cssian part of skinnig? [11:51:55] skinning* [12:03:21] Dor, mediawiki.org should provide you with all that information [12:03:39] I couldn't find any :( [12:03:46] I'll search again... [12:10:51] Werdna: i'm thinking of changing the parser to use Unicode strings internally [12:11:13] perhaps a basic_string, which is the ICU data type... or something similar [12:12:00] flyingparchment: Would it be beneficial? [12:12:12] well, it would remove the needing for parsing utf-8 [12:12:20] things would just magically work with unicode [12:12:31] I guess that means that it'd be more maintainable code [12:12:37] i think so [12:12:53] also, easier to extend, you don't have to care about if the input is utf-8 or what [12:12:59] right. [12:13:00] the only problem would be handling input that's not utf-8 [12:13:05] (not sure if that's possible?) [12:13:06] like what? [12:13:19] hmm, well in some cases mediawiki would create invalid utf-8 by truncating strings [12:17:28] i bet ICU is faster than utf8_iterator, too ;) [12:18:55] probably [12:28:19] hi, I have installed mediawiki. i can reach it through http://localhost/mediawiki/ and through http://85.127.141.134/ but never throug http://chess.homelinux.org/ i get error 404. although http://ip.ad.dress/ = http://chess..... I have checked my httpd.conf for apache. there is no mispelling. any suggestion please [12:31:33] sphenxes: Do the vhosts for 85.127.141.134 and chess.homelinux.org both point to the same directory? [12:31:49] Emufarmers, yes [12:32:01] Because it looks like it's just not serving from the right place [12:32:20] sphenxes, it isn't the same IP direction [12:32:41] I tried to access another page and it says 404 on one and finds it on another [12:32:57] i have dyndns [12:33:00] make sure http://chess.homelinux.org/ is directing to 85.127.141.134 [12:33:19] PING chess.homelinux.org (85.127.141.134) 56(84) bytes of data. [12:33:20] i have virtual hosting [12:33:21] That seems ok [12:33:32] Hmm [12:33:40] i have one ip address and several home pages [12:33:45] What makes chess.homelinux.org redirect to http://chess.homelinux.org/mediawiki/index.php5 ? [12:33:50] all other home pages are working fine [12:34:26] [12:34:27] ServerName chess.homelinux.org [12:34:27] DocumentRoot /srv/www/htdocs/mediawiki/ [12:34:27] [12:35:05] Ah... [12:35:18] Change that to DocumentRoot /srv/www/htdocs/ [12:35:43] i will try [12:35:53] Actually, I don't htink you're supposed to have a trailing slash, either [12:36:25] so DocumentRoot /srv/www/htdocs [12:36:56] There you go [12:37:19] Cute kids, by the way :) [12:37:33] Emufarmers, thanks about the kids [12:38:00] Emufarmers, sorry it lead us to my other (main home page) [12:38:29] Is it not supposed to? [12:39:28] it mush [12:40:06] or then, you have to change your config (so it will be accessible by the adresse but neither then IP or localhost) [12:40:47] with vhosts he could server different directories for each [12:41:07] *serve [12:41:11] in fact, that's rather the point of vhosts ;) [12:41:27] Emufarmers, excatly. it is working with phpbb3, myhomepage but not mediawiki [12:43:57] where should i copy Localsettings.php after finishing installation. under /srv/www/htdocs/ or /srv/www/htdocs/mediwiki/, and what should i do with config dir. should i delete it [12:45:21] Probably /srv/www/htdocs/mediwiki/; you can delete config [12:46:30] that what i have done. i would keep looking [12:54:28] hey, um.. [12:54:46] Is it possible to put an articlesection in a particular category? [12:57:08] eg, here: http://botdom.com/wiki/DAmn/SampleParser I have multiple headings, php, C#, Java; I want to have each section indexed in the category that relates to it [13:07:53] hi.. in my extensions im using getTitle()->getFullURL(wfArrayToCGI($qs)) where $qs contains an array of my querystring parameters. Problem I have is that it makes &something=something and it should be &someting=something. WHat should i use to fix this ? [13:08:50] is there an api call.. or shoul di just do a str_replace for example ? [13:11:37] (or htmlentities) [13:15:47] !css [13:15:47] --mwbot-- To change styles for your wiki, go to one of the MediaWiki:xxx.css wiki page and put your custom styles there (sysop/admin rights required). MediaWiki:common.css is for all skins and should be used for content styles. MediaWiki:monobook.css is for the MonoBook skin (default), etc. For more information, see !skins and [13:18:31] exobuzz: what are you doing with the text? [13:18:42] making a html link [13:18:52] i just realise i need to encode it all after [13:21:02] Werdna: ok now im doing this and it seems to work $link = $this->getTitle()->getFullURL(wfArrayToCGI($qs)); $link = htmlspecialchars($link); return ''.$name.''; [13:21:17] exobuzz: you should use the XML class [13:21:25] maybe ;-) [13:21:28] probably [13:21:33] i use the xml class for other stuff. [13:21:34] return Xml::element( 'a', array( 'href' => $link ), $name ); [13:21:40] and then it escapes it for you :) [13:21:41] ok. ill do that :D [13:21:46] thanks. [13:21:57] looks a little nicer doesnt it! [13:22:02] indeed. [13:22:14] I've been designing forms in MW code, so Xml is on my mind :) [13:22:39] thing is with a static form, the xml builder can look quite complex.. its good for dynamic data though [13:22:59] indeed, but it escapes everything for you :) [13:22:59] i use it to build my form, but i dont use it for a simple div or so [13:23:01] is there something wrong with Linker::link()? [13:23:45] mmm, everybody uses "".htmlspecialchars($error)."" every now and then [13:24:06] thing about mediawiki, i find developing custom stuff quite tricky, due to the size of the api, and the slimness of the documentation [13:24:25] there's some doc at http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc [13:24:29] im beginning to learn it now, but its a steep curve [13:24:30] although admittedly it's incomplete [13:24:36] most apis we have have some nasty defiencies :o [13:24:56] Werdna: that is what i use, but its slim in places, and its just a reference. rather than a documentation .. [13:24:57] heh, I still look up doc and code definitions regularly when coding, and I've got 2 years' experience with MediaWiki [13:25:02] :) [13:25:21] me too [13:25:28] what would be nice is. "to do this, you would want to use the xml class, and this and this" type documentation [13:25:32] especially for Xml functions [13:25:47] so you know where to "look" to start [13:27:02] right [13:27:37] mostly ive just been looking at the source of other peoples extensions [13:27:42] might be learning bad habits though ;-) [13:28:40] should I also use Xml for trivial things like these? [13:28:42] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/Skin.php?annotate=38910&pathrev=38910#l782 [13:29:35] exobuzz: I do that. [13:30:03] I STILL do that :P [13:33:51] hehe [13:39:24] *ialex stabs PHP 5.3.0alpha1 [13:39:40] only that version? i think they all deserve it [13:39:41] :) [13:39:58] *ialex stabs exobuzz too ;) [13:40:04] ouch! [13:52:47] 03(mod) PATCHES - moving Wikimedia only stuff from LanguageXx. php to InitialiseSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14294 (10siebrand) [13:52:59] 03(mod) LanguageXx.php files contain WMF specific settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14165 (10siebrand) [13:53:39] my new extension. absolutely useless to anyone but me, since its just putting a database browser thing inside of mediwiki. http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Special:Modland [13:53:48] well. it is useful for our visitors. but [13:53:49] ;-) [14:09:12] 03(mod) Mailing list for Malayalam projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15012 (10sadik.khalid) [14:35:57] hm, CIA is either broken or very slow [14:37:18] yeah :( [14:37:35] *ialex pokes CIA-55 [14:37:47] *Werdna kicks CIA-55 [14:37:48] ow [14:39:31] *White_Cat_Zzz kicks CIA-55 [14:39:32] ow [14:39:36] *White_Cat_Zzz kicks CIA-55 harder [14:39:40] :/ [14:40:26] evil cat [14:42:28] alnokta I am not evil [14:42:34] I merely pretend to be evil [14:42:39] and I do a fine job [14:43:58] White_Cat_Zzz, and i am just kidding [14:45:10] In reality I make the arcangel Tyrael blush with my angelic aura [14:48:39] *White_Cat_Zzz hugs Betacommand [14:55:51] zomg what happend with the bot that reports on commits [14:55:59] it's broken [14:56:04] :o [14:56:07] oh noes [14:56:20] 03(FIXED) update_flaggedrevs does full table scan - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15094 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [14:56:20] somebody fix it. quick. [15:03:41] Hey [15:04:51] Is there a way to make a bot (eggdrop) on irc to instantly announce on a channel when there is a change [15:05:01] like the recent changes page [15:05:04] !irc [15:05:04] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "irc". You might try: !ask !rcbot !repeat [15:05:08] !rcbot [15:05:08] --mwbot-- To create an IRC bot to display recent changes to your Wiki, follow the directions at . [15:05:21] 03(mod) Unnecessary purging when sighting templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15096 (10JSchulz_4587) [15:06:22] Hi VasileivVV [15:06:30] are you sayuri on mediawiki? [15:07:19] Hi VasilievVV [15:07:27] 03ialex * r38995 10/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php: [15:07:27] For compatibility with PHP 5.3.0alpha1: specify class name instead of passing by ref the title object: was throwing the following error: [15:07:27] Warning: Parameter 2 to Parser::parse() expected to be a reference, value given in ./includes/StubObject.php on line 58 [15:07:27] followed by: [15:07:27] are you sayuri on mediawiki? [15:07:28] Fatal error: Call to a member function getLanguageLinks() on a non-object in ./includes/OutputPage.php on line 463 [15:08:30] 03river * r38996 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/parser_native/ (11 files in 3 dirs): [15:08:30] Unicode conversion, phase1: datum should be templated on char type. [15:08:30] added basic_datum, with typedefs datum and u32datum [15:08:33] 03mark * r38997 10/trunk/routing/twistedbgp/src/ (bgp.py test.py): (log message trimmed) [15:08:33] - Fix equality checking of IPPrefix with another type [15:08:33] - Support flat AS paths as input to ASPathAttribute [15:08:35] - Add NextHopAttribute.ANY as input to NextHopAttribute, which can be replaced by e.g. the local IP address on sending [15:08:38] - Fix missing argument for keepAliveTimer.reset in updateSent [15:08:40] - Do not require manually setting the local BGP id, calculate it from the local IP address on connection establishment instead [15:08:43] o_OO [15:08:43] - Add optional myASN and peerAddr parameters to Factory class constructors [15:08:49] 03ialex * r38998 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/utils/ToolBox.php: Fixed E_STRICT and escaping issue [15:08:52] 03ialex * r38999 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalBlocking/GlobalBlocking.php: PHP 5.3.0alpha1 compatibility (same issue as r38995: E_WARNING: argument 3 cannot be passed by reference, value given) [15:08:56] guess it's back [15:09:08] 03ialex * r39000 10/trunk/extensions/CategoryTree/CategoryTree.php: PHP 5.3.0alpha1 compatibility (same issue as r38995: E_WARNING: argument 2 cannot be passed by reference, value given) [15:09:26] :o somebody fixed it :D [15:09:33] 03river * r39004 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/parser_native/ (affunctions.cpp affunctions.h filter_evaluator.h makefile): Unicode conversion: affunctions and filter_evaluator should be templated on character type [15:09:45] 03aaron * r39003 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/maintenance/updateLinks.inc: equality propagation again :) [15:22:26] 03mkroetzsch * r39005 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (SMW_GlobalFunctions.php SMW_Hooks.php jobs/SMW_UpdateJob.php): [15:22:26] +some additional check to make sure that the right title object is used in hooks, strange things happen during [15:22:26] parsing (and other extension may have triggered sub-parsers with different title objects :-/) [15:23:08] 03siebrand * r39006 10/trunk/extensions/ (52 files in 48 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-08-09 17:11 CEST) [15:31:51] how can i tell which version of api.php is installed on a wiki? [15:32:44] go to Special:Version [15:32:55] hippietrail, see Special:Version on that wiki [15:33:54] special version seems to have a way higher version number than the latest revision of api.php so i thought i was missing something [15:34:25] the revision number of api.php only changes when that particular file is committed to [15:34:35] 03siebrand * r39007 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (63 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-08-09 17:11 CEST) [15:34:46] what you need to do is look at the Special:Version revision, and find the last time api.php was modified prior to that revision [15:35:13] special version gives r38969, api.php was at 38639 as of august 5, and the feature added then doesn't seem to be live [15:37:33] it is live, had to log out of api.php to see it. thanks for your help! [15:39:23] hello all [15:39:28] 03nikerabbit * r39008 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: * Function naming consistency [15:39:39] 03mkroetzsch * r39009 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_Factbox.php: Further protect Factbox from loosing data if hooks of sub-parsers cross-fire our parsre run [15:40:03] i am unable to get an image to show in a page im creating, anyone know why? i used the [[image ]] tag it auto generates [15:41:55] 03nikerabbit * r39010 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ffs/ (Java.php Simple.php Wiki.php): * Export improvements: speed, padding removed and authors sorted alphabetically [15:47:49] anyone here? i am unable to find how to upload images, giving me a headache [15:56:19] 06(LATER) Feature request: Get access to the 'flagged Revisions' interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14345 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [15:58:59] can $wgOut be used to parse 2 seperate pages after each other without interference? [16:00:08] alright im willing to pay via paypal for some help setting up my wiki, could anyone pm me! thanks! [16:00:58] TaKaGaRi: you could try rentacoder [16:02:15] eh whats that? [16:02:29] http://www.rentacoder.com/ [16:02:56] im not really looking to spent a whole bunch, just need some basic setup help with getting it to feel right [16:03:04] okay [16:18:17] 03river * r39011 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/parser_native/ (7 files in 2 dirs): [16:18:17] Unicode conversion: full Unicode support for parser, and 'expr' tool [16:18:17] add UTF-8/UTF-32 conversion functions for input/output [16:21:53] 03siebrand * r39012 10/trunk/extensions/ (22 files in 22 dirs): Localisation updates for extension special page aliases from Betawiki [16:23:19] 03river * r39013 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/parser_native/expr.cpp: add 'expr' tool [16:23:48] http://chess.homelinux.org/ i get error 404. I have noticed as in the error message below that it is looking in directory /srv7www/htdocs/mediawiki/mediawiki/ i don't have 2 mediawiki i have only one. [16:35:16] is it possible to extend api.php's action=query&prop= or is it only possible to new actions? [16:36:16] 03river * r39014 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/parser_native/ (6 files): [16:36:16] - remove utf8.{cpp,h} which are no longer used [16:36:16] - convert request (and syntax_check) to use u32expressor [16:38:52] 03river * r39015 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/parser_native/check.cpp: convert check to u32filter_evaluator, and use "" quotes instead of '' quotes [16:39:55] hi Jack_Phoenix [16:40:05] heya [16:40:26] did you read my email? [16:40:44] haven't checked email yet, I'll try to remember to check it today ;-) [16:41:08] ha ok, it's because you posted on talk page of imagetagging [16:41:22] i would like to know if you are imagetagging developer [16:41:30] you said this works on mw 1.13 [16:41:44] i have this installed on 1.12 and do vnot work [16:41:48] well, I've been fixing a couple bugs in that extension and all that stuff :-) [16:42:00] I don't know about 1.12, but it definitely works on 1.13 for me [16:42:21] (admittedly, the logging is a bit buggy and there are issues under IE, but it works well on Firefox) [16:42:59] right, on 1.12 it's bugged, but can i make some requests on IT extension? [16:43:11] any chance to you add my requests? [16:43:13] hehe [16:43:30] feel free to post 'em on Extension talk:ImageTagging -- I cannot guarantee that they'll be added though [16:43:42] right, i'll add [16:44:01] i don't understand why we have imagemap extension [16:44:18] it's harder than imagetagging and it's almost the same function [16:44:22] or i'm wrong? [16:44:59] Werdna: should be fully unicoded now [16:45:25] jack: do you have a demo of imagetagging? [16:45:40] not a public one (only on localhost) [16:45:46] it used to be enabled on Wikia sites... [16:45:47] haaa [16:45:53] don't think it is anymore, though [16:46:17] i had tested this on past but as now doesn't work on 1.12 i can see this working [16:47:08] just a question: i'm newbie, i would like to upgrade to 1.13. the upgrade it's the same way to update to 1.12 [16:47:11] ? [16:48:30] just replace the files and $ php update.php [16:48:30] ? [16:50:06] anyone? [16:51:15] yes, that's correct [16:51:47] thanks [16:52:01] http://chess.homelinux.org/ i get error 404. I have noticed as in the error message below that it is looking in directory /srv7www/htdocs/mediawiki/mediawiki/ i don't have 2 mediawiki i have only one. [16:52:13] will do this and see if works. wait an answer of my email jack. thanks [16:52:25] np [16:52:58] How do I link to file:///L:\stuff ? [16:53:10] Intranet wiki. [17:03:01] <^demon> Bah, the namespace class isn't loaded high enough in the stack :( [17:04:59] Hi, is there any option to rename Image? [17:20:34] Sadik_Khalid: the namespace Image: or the object with the name Image:X.ext? [17:21:28] (afk) [17:22:29] an object (eg:Image:pix.jpg) [17:26:28] quick question, when adding extensions, is there any difference between require, require_once, and include? [17:28:57] 03(mod) $wgCapitalLinks should be a per-namespace setting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13750 +comment (10innocentkiller) [17:29:05] 03(mod) disallow user pages and user_talk pages starting with lower case on case sensitive wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3904 (10innocentkiller) [17:29:13] 03(mod) Tags for MediaWiki messages when $wgCapitalLinks = false - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5601 (10innocentkiller) [17:29:18] <^demon> Tony_: The difference between require/include is that if require doesn't find the file, it'll cause a fatal error. [17:29:58] ^demon: what about the _once part? some ext has them some dont [17:30:08] <^demon> _once means that it will only add the file once per request (ie: if it's required/included again, it won't try to re-include it) [17:44:03] 03(mod) Mailing list for Malayalam projects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15012 (10shijualex) [17:45:17] has anything been changed in the software recently? [17:45:52] yes [17:46:38] Nikerabbit, what? some pages looked weird for a while [17:46:42] now it is OK again [17:48:25] how do i get wiki to list all my pages? is there a show pages page or something? [17:48:30] habj: you are being overtly vague [17:49:04] TaKaGaRi: special:allpages [17:49:42] Nikerabbit, hehe OK. I am not sure if I can send you a file, a screenshot. But it is OK again s??... [17:49:46] thanks niker [17:50:31] how does one set catagories? i've seen it on some wikis but when i create new page, theres nothing for cats [17:51:39] 03(NEW) Please add a new namespace in Persian Wiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15097 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (huji.huji) [18:00:39] TaKaGaRi: check the MediaWiki handbook on Wikibooks. [18:02:24] TaKaGaRi: hmm, that was a bad idea. It does not exist. Better try http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Category [18:05:10] sie seems like a good idea, now im just trying tof igure out how to edit the menu [18:05:12] siebrand: Why are Wikipedia's categorization conventions on that page? That doesn't really make much sense [18:05:34] RoanKattouw: don't ask me. I just stumbled upon it. [18:05:48] RoanKattouw: someone probably copied it from meta [18:05:49] RoanKattouw: and pasted it to answer a question of a user in here. [18:06:25] Figured. It's strange though. WP has this convention of conservative categorization (i.e. something in Category:Dogs doesn't go into Category:Animals) whereas some other wikis actually encourage overcategorization [18:06:57] 03(mod) Mailing list for Malayalam projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15012 (10jyothis.e) [18:08:33] 03(NEW) Recentchangeslinked doesn' t include links when Allpages or Prefixindex is transcluded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15098 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (robin_1273) [18:17:39] thanks guys for the help [18:18:31] siebrand you know how one would link to a catagory? i know{{name}} links to a page, but not sure hwo to link to a catagory page [18:19:12] TaKaGaRi: [[:Category:Catname|link description]] [18:19:20] thanks [18:19:29] this is an all new format to me heh [18:21:14] {{name}} does not link to a page [18:21:19] it includes a template in the current page [18:22:30] a template? [18:22:42] 03(NEW) Bad regexes make the at least some of the blacklist get ignored - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15099 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Spam Blacklist; (mike.lifeguard) [18:24:53] 03(FIXED) Monobook and flagged revisions and new SkinTemplate CSS don' t work well together - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15025 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [18:39:44] Guys how do i edit the navigation panel on the left? can't find it :( [18:40:00] !sidebar | TaKaGaRi [18:40:00] --mwbot-- TaKaGaRi: To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [18:43:20] MinuteElectron thanks, but im not able to find that page on my wiki how do i get to my edit page? [18:43:26] Hello [18:43:44] nm figured it out :D [18:43:46] I have a very noob wuestion [18:43:50] *quesyion [18:43:58] !ask | Meeso [18:43:58] --mwbot-- Meeso: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [18:44:05] 'I just uploaded and configured and installed [18:44:12] and how do I make a new page? [18:44:38] Type the page name into the search box and press go. [18:44:42] ok [18:44:45] Then press the "edit" button. [18:44:49] ahh [18:45:02] ok [18:45:05] I remember now [18:58:51] \o/ CIA-56 [19:09:20] 03(NEW) Opt-out of cross-wiki login on a per-user basis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15100 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User login/settings; (mike.lifeguard) [19:15:39] 03ialex * r39024 10/trunk/extensions/ (Gadgets/Gadgets.php Translate/RcFilter.php): More PHP 5.3.0alpha1 fixes: E_WARNING: argument cannot be passed by reference, value given [19:28:58] 03mark * r39025 10/trunk/routing/twistedbgp/src/ (bgp.py test.py): [19:28:58] - Deprecated mutability of Attribute instances [19:28:58] - Split AttributeSet off into BaseAttributeSet, FrozenAttributeSet and AttributeSet [19:28:58] - Created Advertisement class, which combines prefixes with attributes and optionally other info [19:28:58] - Reimplemented NaiveBGPPeering to support prefixes with unequal attribute sets [19:34:08] hi, upgraded to mediawiki 1.13 and get this error on special: version [19:34:09] http://viunai.gizmogarden.com/index.php/Especial:Vers%C3%A3o [19:34:15] any idea? [19:37:23] leonardo: it seems that your version of php's pcre module was not compiled with unicode support. that's rather bad. [19:37:44] leonardo: that's just what i gather from the actual error message, mind you.# [19:38:18] leonardo, set your [[MediaWiki:linktrail]] to /^([a-z]+)(.*)$/sD [19:38:53] we don't have [[MediaWiki:Linktrail]] [19:39:38] ouch, i'ts hardcoded now [19:39:43] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php?r1=38751&r2=38750&pathrev=38751 [19:39:44] yes [19:40:41] leonardo, use the diff I provided to change your MessagesEn.php [19:41:31] MaxSem: i'm pretty sure Unicode properties are used in more places... [19:42:03] what TF distros use such retarded php builds? [19:42:14] TF? [19:42:59] jeremyb_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTF [19:43:22] WTF i know :) [19:43:26] TF idk [19:44:21] TF = WTF - W [19:44:22] :) [20:03:40] 03siebrand * r39026 10/trunk/extensions/ (100 files in 88 dirs): [20:03:40] * rebuild all extension messages localisation files supported by Translate (part 1 - 100 of 223 files) [20:03:40] * indentation changed from aligned to 'as short as possible [20:03:40] * alphabetical ordering of authors [20:03:40] * export of Betawiki's translation hints. Developers are encouraged to add, correct, elaborate! [20:03:43] * contains the latest export for extension messages from Betawiki [20:07:06] 03nikerabbit * r39027 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (Message.php Translate.php): * Syntax terror [20:07:23] Nikerabbit: that's a scary syntax [20:08:15] flyingparchment: which? [20:08:30] "syntax terror" [20:09:38] 03nikerabbit * r39028 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/Message.php: * Might actually be useful to return also true [20:10:21] MinuteElectron: :D [20:39:06] Juliano:eae [20:39:44] leonardo: ? [20:40:36] juliano: do you know this whos online extension: very interesting: http://www.gizmogarden.com/index.php/Ajax_whos_online [20:40:41] ajax one [20:40:49] just showing you [20:41:20] what do you think? [20:42:25] fine... [20:43:51] yes it is [20:45:45] hi jack_Phoenix [20:45:54] rar [20:46:14] added my comments on imagetagging talk extension [20:46:18] did you read? [20:46:28] nope, not yet -- been busy coding stuff [20:46:35] ha [20:46:48] when you look, tell me what you think [20:46:58] will do [20:48:11] yet another badly written extension... :-/ [21:19:06] <^demon> Is the other half of brion here? [21:32:18] 03(mod) Unnecessary purging when sighting templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15096 (10fearow00) [21:32:48] who killed CIA-56 ? [21:34:03] you [21:34:11] 14(INVALID) Unnecessary purging when sighting templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15096 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [21:35:37] AaronSchulz: Just a clarification, will there be any difference in the resulting pages if none of the previous versions were sighed? [21:35:43] Juliano: hi [21:57:54] AaronSchulz: yeah, could be ;) [22:03:53] 03(mod) $wgCapitalLinks should be a per-namespace setting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13750 +comment (10innocentkiller) [22:04:12] hello, why do i get a lot of "TCP_MISS/404 ... PURGE" in the Squid log? [22:04:37] shouldn't be "TCP_MISS/200 ... PURGE" ? [22:13:04] 03(mod) Mailing list for Malayalam projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15012 +comment (10cbrown1023) [22:16:48] actually the page exists, but Squid doesn't keep it in the cache [22:19:20] TCP_MISS/404 109 PURGE http://www.wikilivres.info/wiki/La_Femme_aux_deux_sourires/X [22:45:00] 03nikerabbit * r39029 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (Stats.php TranslateUtils.php scripts/createMessageIndex.php): * Fix stats for groups [22:45:29] 03guyvdb * r39030 10/branches/visual_diff/phase3/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Bugfixes to HtmlDiff, integration with DifferenceEngine, basic GUI in css and js [22:45:30] 03nikerabbit * r39031 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/TranslateEditAddons.php: * Empty space is nice, but I prefer to have control over it [22:47:48] 03guyvdb * r39032 10/branches/visual_diff/phase3/ (353 files in 13 dirs): Merge with trunk and rename of HtmlDiff to HTMLDiff [22:49:37] 03aaron * r39033 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: WMF tweaks [23:18:17] siebrand sending 18 MB big commit mails ;) [23:18:44] mark: 25MB was part 1... [23:19:39] haha you killed it [23:22:22] mark: I have 'Xobni' running on Outlook. It was a difficult e-mail to text index :) [23:22:45] my thunderbird didn't like it very much either [23:23:14] <^demon|away> Gmail truncates it, but it's still slow loading over a broadband card :) [23:25:24] 03(WONTFIX) Opt-out of cross-wiki login on a per-user basis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15100 +comment (10brion) [23:26:00] saw that coming [23:26:26] <^demon|away> I read that and was like "Why would you want to?" [23:27:25] 14(INVALID) Incorrect Wikiquote robots.txt entries. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15095 +comment (10brion) [23:33:30] 03(mod) Moving a page should move all subpages belonging to that page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15082 +comment (10brion) [23:33:39] 03(mod) Moving pages should optionally move their subpages as well - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9626 +comment (10brion) [23:38:55] brion: what I do is disable image loading temporarily, when I want to do that (well, still logs in to all language variants, but not all projects, heh) [23:39:53] which is the command to revert a commit? [23:40:25] i usually do svn merge -rXXXX:XXXY [23:40:36] oh and '.' on the end cause it doesn't assume THE OBVIOUS [23:40:48] there's probably a simpler way like -c to skip the explicit earlier rev [23:40:52] but it's in my muscle memory now [23:41:04] *Platonides tries [23:43:46] that was it, thanks [23:44:06] i had loaded thje previous revision, but it didn't allow me to commit, as it was a valid one :)