[00:25:36] 03(NEW) with format=eventline, each pop-up' s title has a garbled link to the date heading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15277 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (info) [00:59:07] When your captcha images always feature obsqure words like "openssoot", "winksari", "macesdorm", and "yodelstamp" would anyone say that it's time to use a smaller word list for generating them? ^_^ heh [00:59:14] 03(NEW) Wrong time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15278 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (dasch_87) [01:02:00] Dantman: they're not words. [01:02:04] they use *two* words [01:02:06] opens soot [01:02:09] wink sari [01:02:11] maces dorm [01:02:16] yodel stamp [01:02:24] I only see one weird word there (sari) [01:02:27] ^_^ heh, well they're conjunctions... [01:02:43] And they are added to the word list as a single word [01:02:47] *Werdna slaps Dantman's emoticon face. [01:03:15] ^______^ [01:03:26] big mouth. [01:03:29] http://wiki-tools.com/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&type=signup [01:03:37] feel free to refresh all you want ;) heh [01:03:55] anyway, I use recaptcha [01:03:57] way better :P [01:04:35] *Dantman doesn't like the closed-source aspect of it [01:04:52] it's not "closed source", I don't think. [01:04:56] it's just not GPL-compatible [01:05:20] I set up a wiki farm yesterday. it was fun [01:05:29] now I just have to cd /home/wiki and php addwiki.php wikiname [01:05:31] to create a new wiki [01:05:38] and it's all under centralauth. [01:05:44] Well, as I remember it's dependant on their servers, running code which as I believe was not open [01:05:52] s/believe/remember/ [01:05:54] oh, maybe. [01:06:02] ( Werdna ) big mouth. <- yeah, wikipedians often they that about me ._. [01:06:10] It's basically a dependancy on a site you have no control over [01:06:32] Wikimedia doesn't use it for a similar reason [01:06:48] meh, I'm a bit more pragmatic about it. [01:06:58] Me not using it because it's closed-source is not going to change anything [01:07:03] Wikimedia not using it will. [01:07:32] Hmmm... I just thought about something that might be wrong with what FireStats is doing... [01:08:42] heh, fun... FireStats does not even exist anymore [01:09:30] ^_^ Time to work on Wiki Bounties [01:12:14] 03aaron * r39858 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/LocalFile.php: [01:12:14] Fix arguments to call: [01:12:14] Catchable fatal error: Argument 2 passed to Parser::parse() must be an instance [01:12:14] of Title, instance of ParserOptions given, called in [01:12:14] C:\Server\xampp\htdocs\MW\includes\filerepo\LocalFile.php on line 1118 and [01:12:15] defined in C:\Server\xampp\htdocs\MW\includes\parser\Parser.php on line 290 [01:19:56] 03aaron * r39859 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/LocalFile.php: *sigh*...needs to return a string to not die in ImagePage [01:26:18] 03aaron * r39860 10/trunk/phase3/includes/HTMLCacheUpdate.php: should be <=, not < [01:42:38] I had a wiki installation on my server, and i wanted to change it to my https subdomain. I moved the wike from ~/public_html/corporate/wiki to ~/corporate/wiki. I updated the $wgScriptPath but it still redirects me to the old path. [01:42:40] any ideas? [01:43:33] Articlepath? [01:44:03] what should tha tbe set to? [01:44:13] the root of my wiki installation? [01:44:45] Howdy :) [01:45:33] 03shinjiman * r39861 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Old/Late Time Chinese [01:46:31] article path made no difference, do you need to do something besides update LocalSettings.php? [01:47:31] You might try using &action=purge to make sure things aren't cached [01:49:36] hmm, that works but now the formatting is all off and the links still reference the old path [01:50:30] yep css references the old path too [01:52:17] The channels #MIDI and #Timidity have no one on them. Can someone suggest where I can get help using Timidity on IRC ? [01:52:47] any more ideas Dantman? [01:52:49] I mean get some help on IRC using Timidity [01:52:58] not really [01:53:04] the variables in the html source are all the old ones [01:53:26] its just not picking them up from LoaclSettings.php [01:53:58] You could put the file inside of a pastey (removing any sensitive information like db stuff) [02:00:27] hrmm tough crowd [02:00:31] http://rafb.net/p/Od7em277.html [02:02:26] so that gets read everytime? [02:02:35] is there like a special command to reload the config? [02:07:12] Uhm... you have the Article path set to the same as the script path [02:07:33] what should it be set to [02:07:43] You have short urls setup? [02:07:55] not sure, probably not [02:08:01] ok, then just delete that line [02:08:28] Your $wgLogo is screwed up, you shouldn't be using relative paths [02:08:49] oh, its an absolute url, I just removed it before I uploaded [02:28:32] 03(NEW) Strange behaviour of Page Type in Array - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15279 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (dasch_87) [03:26:20] hi there, how can i change ste first page of my wiki? [03:26:27] *the [03:35:10] click edit [03:35:27] maxxxxx: as in from "Main page" to something else? [03:36:19] he didn't say he wants to change the title [03:41:44] sry was afk, i didn't say i wanted to change the title, but i actually ment it :-) [03:42:35] edit [[MediaWiki:Mainpage]] [03:43:56] and how can i change the title now? [03:44:21] because i just see a possibility to change the content of the article [03:44:21] to change the title, edit [[MediaWiki:Mainpage]] [03:48:36] "Deciding on appropriate content/page titles can be a difficult aspect of wiki organization, and one which can often provoke debates. If the merge or deletion you have in mind, is one which might cause upset, you should propose the change first." [03:48:43] is this true, outside of Wikipedia? [03:50:53] most wikis I know don't have this problem [04:59:21] 03(mod) internal_api_error_DBQueryError when API action login - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15267 (10maxsem.wiki) [04:59:29] 03(mod) Restore the global CheckUser log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13789 (10zelgharabawi1) [05:03:12] 03(mod) Restore the global CheckUser log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13789 (10cometstyles) [05:03:20] :| [05:03:31] ppl are now vandalising bugzilla too :| [05:56:43] is it possible to redirect a url to a .php page? [05:57:03] i knw this is not the app channel bt jst need some help [06:00:28] using what? [06:06:49] well domain forwardimg [06:07:16] i tried to forward abc.com to xyz.com/12a.php however it takes me to xyz.com/12a.html! [06:08:01] domain forwarding. [06:08:10] well, that depends on your provider. [06:08:14] and do you really own abc.com? [06:16:55] yes [06:17:29] well actually the site is ck27.com [06:17:44] im forwarding it to countryclubindia.com/ck_27.php [06:18:06] the forwarding has been setup however it forwards it to countryclubindia.com/ck_27.html! [07:08:29] okay .htaccess did the trick [07:09:01] can i have a javascript load on every page of mw? if yes do where do i put the code? [07:09:13] T_T My... the beauty of a large flatscreen monitor is heaven after being stuck in safe mode for days... [07:09:25] newstar: Common.js [07:09:34] [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] to be exact [07:09:58] Waitasecond... where's my user list? [07:10:17] ohh.. well would an js hosted on a remote host works [07:10:23] btw thanks for semantic-mediawiki... [07:10:34] heh [07:10:37] #semantic-mediawiki [07:10:49] No #semanticmediawiki [07:11:09] Agh... [07:11:18] I register one, and everyone goes to another [07:12:22] [insert Nelson Muntz "ha ha"] [07:13:01] lolz [07:13:19] well mistake! i read abt it on d mailing list [07:13:36] I posted it up as #semanticmediawiki [07:15:35] Time to poke Yaron... [07:28:28] well i met him yesterday on the channel #semanticmediawiki [07:40:12] 03(mod) Make [[google:foo bar]] use + or %20 for href, not an underline after parsing; further do not capitalize - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15274 +comment (10dan_the_man) [07:41:08] I didn't think Dantman wrote semantic mediawiki... [07:41:29] ^_^ I chime in with a lot of scalability stuff [07:41:48] I'm the one who fixed SF's short-circuting of the message system [07:42:16] so you updated it to use i18n? [07:42:28] And I've been working on fixing the poor coding style (bad autoloading, short-circuting our systems meant for scalability, etc...) in most of the Semantic extensions [07:42:47] so you've done some code review. [07:43:26] ^_^ I also made SF's #arraymap work with the trick [07:43:40] *Bzzzzzzt* You are fined 10 credits for violation of the verbal morality code [07:53:57] ;) http://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Dantman [08:28:27] Mmmm... bounties [08:29:05] *Werdna throws rocks at Dantman [08:29:27] *Dantman takes a break from building a bounty site [09:17:07] 03(mod) please provide a SUL-Newuser-Log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15271 (10spacebirdy) [10:49:16] 03(NEW) Search (or AJAX Suggestions) should try expanding/ contracting ordinals - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15280 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Search; (happy_melon) [11:07:16] anyone here tried the loop extension (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Loops) wiht MW 1.13?? [11:10:51] can mediawiki cope with images whose filenames contain weird characters? [11:11:12] 03(NEW) "column rev_parent_id does not exist" error after update - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15281 major; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (s_angelov) [11:11:35] almien: When i understand your question, yes of course [11:11:57] so we maybe have an old version here? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Image:KDE_marble_Link%C3%B6ping.jpg [11:13:07] uploading with o instead of ö in filename and it works fine [11:13:25] hmmmm [11:13:28] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Image:%C3%B6 [11:14:09] does sound familiar though, images with � causing prbs [11:15:50] interesting result when searching for ö files ;) http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Kingsferry_bridge_rising.jpg [11:19:47] wait, no, that was � [11:20:58] *Splarka checks the logs from Sep [11:31:15] hi, is there any reason javascript is not minified by default for mediawiki? [11:31:25] there is little point [11:31:39] is there an assumption it will always be sent compressed? [11:32:37] one would assume that anyone who cares enough to minify their javascript would have compression enabled on their web server [11:32:42] borderline gfdl violation, slower to parse in some browsers [11:33:00] Splarka: gpl no? [11:33:01] wikia compresses theirs to 1 400k line [11:33:04] compressed js is just plain nasty [11:33:11] same for css [11:33:13] MinuteElectron: you call javascript a code? ewww [11:33:16] annoying to debug & read [11:33:16] 03(NEW) Add Cookbook as a content namespace on Serbian Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15282 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (smolensk) [11:33:17] it is more a suggestion [11:33:31] "hey, browser, you should do this... " "naaaaah, I'd rather throw an error" [11:34:11] 03(mod) Add Cookbook as a content namespace on Serbian Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15282 (10smolensk) [11:34:28] really? gfdl violation? why? [11:35:04] loss of attribution in some circumstances [11:35:08] well, Wikia was doing that, distributing code that was definitely under a GNU license in a compressed form without distributing the source [11:35:16] no comments, no human readability [11:36:08] the php is server side so they are under no obligation to distribute [11:36:11] but the javascript is client side [11:36:22] hmm, I suppose the soution there is to suffix the minified versions of js and tell mediawiki about it [11:36:28] they eventually put up their repository, but... still [11:36:40] nasty in so many other ways [11:37:13] I have an older machine, and when they minified 400k of JS, it went from 250ms per dom ready load, to 3500ms [11:37:50] heh, what browser/parser was that? [11:38:03] every page load would hard-lock the browser for 3.5 seconds (Mozilla Firebird) [11:38:33] ah, I expect the parser to have improved since though [11:38:43] there was a story about it on slashdot just recently ;) [11:38:46] well sure [11:38:51] 30x faster in 3.1 [11:38:55] but that isn't the point [11:39:09] the point is people still use browsers that treat minified code as different than the unminified [11:39:38] pre 2.x firefox doesn't register high in usage numbers here, or did you mean another browser? [11:39:42] and a few seconds of time saved downloading the JS once, is not offset by 3 seconds of wait for each page to render, every single time [11:39:56] well, one is enough indication of a problem [11:40:08] same reason you shouldn't rely on alpha transparent PNG for anything critical [11:40:27] or serve all your content in flash (unless you're youtube) [11:40:31] well, if the browsers are too old we simply drop support [11:40:36] compressed css & js is just simply a no-no, there's no real reason to do it [11:41:17] checkers: that isn't what I mean [11:41:50] I mean, _some_ browsers see minified code as different than the unminified, my only experience is with an older one that was slower [11:42:00] but if there are others, and there probably are, that is good reason not to minify [11:42:14] (others that might not be old, but new, and might not have slowdowns, but other problems) [11:42:41] but what Jack said [11:42:50] yes, definitely something I'll have to test it seems [11:46:14] why? [11:47:08] sadomasochistic [11:47:16] because it seems like low hanging fruit rather :p [11:47:41] seams like a waste of time [11:47:43] more like [11:51:31] Hi [11:51:52] How do I insert the greek letter pi? [11:52:04] in a text. [11:52:43] Copy/paste π [11:54:28] π [11:54:46] Thanks [11:54:54] π [11:55:45] 03(mod) Changes to formatting in Special:GlobalBlockList - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15257 +comment (10dungodung) [11:55:50] Π [11:56:05] (for upper case) [11:56:25] also Π Π for uppercase [11:58:02] to recap: Π Π Π π π π ϖ ∏ [12:06:16] 03(mod) Add Cookbook as a content namespace on Serbian Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15282 +shell (10dungodung) [12:06:32] *dungodung huggles Splarka [12:08:19] eep! did my over-answering of the question about html entities turn you on? [12:08:25] *Splarka is behuggified [12:09:50] Is it possible to download mediawiki as a zip-archive? [12:10:02] 03(mod) Changes to formatting in Special:GlobalBlockList - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15257 (10Andrew) [12:10:09] not officially [12:10:13] why would you want that? [12:10:32] Because I'm on a computer without support for tar.gz files [12:11:37] 03(mod) Changes to formatting in Special:GlobalBlockList - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15257 (10dungodung) [12:11:54] Splarka: lol. :P [12:12:19] *dungodung smacks Werdna for antagonizing [12:12:40] dungodung: there is a statute of limitations on IRC actions yknow ^_^ [12:12:55] Dvyjones: download directly from SVN uncompressed? [12:13:14] I don't <.< [12:13:40] 03(mod) Changes to formatting in Special:GlobalBlockList - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15257 (10Andrew) [12:16:43] hey dungodung :) [12:16:47] :P [12:17:00] hullo andrew backwards [12:23:45] hey victor [12:24:01] Splarka: I don't have SVN, unless theres an online SVN client :P [12:25:06] Dvyjones: moment. [12:25:24] Dvyjones: what's the URL to the tgz file you want? [12:26:11] Werdna: http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.13/mediawiki-1.13.0.tar.gz [12:26:48] hi Werdna [12:35:46] Dvyjones: http://epstone.net/~andrew/mediawiki-1.13.0.zip [12:37:20] 03werdna * r39862 10/trunk/extensions/DeleteQueue/DeleteQueueItem.php: Fix some notices [12:40:43] ty Werdna [12:57:44] major screw up lol [12:57:59] MediaWiki: 1.12; Schema: 1.13 [13:17:50] I have a problem with short urls. [13:19:11] I have mediawiki file in /latin/ and I want to reduce the url to /latin/Page_name . [13:19:35] So I created an htaccess with "RewriteRule ^latin/(.*)$ /latin/index.php?title=$1" [13:20:05] The problem is that mediawiki redirects /latin/index.php?title=ABC to /latin/ABC [13:20:16] buzzo rename latin to something else [13:20:27] And the htaccess redirects /latin/ABC to /latin/index.php?title=ABC [13:20:39] Infinite loop. [13:21:05] place the files somewhere else, such as /l/ [13:21:17] then redirect /latin/ to /l/index.php [13:21:39] Right. [13:24:33] Now i have my mediawiki files in /wl/, and the htaccess that redirects /latin/page to/wl/?title=page [13:24:47] good! [13:24:56] but mediawiki redirects /wl/?title=page to /latin/page ! [13:25:03] Again infinite loop! [13:25:11] you shouldn't be redirecting [13:25:14] you need to rewrite [13:25:26] there's a big difference [13:25:31] !rewriteproblems [13:25:31] --mwbot-- 1) Try as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root. [13:26:27] Werdna: I'm trying to build AFParser under Windows [13:28:07] ah, lol! the RewriteCond ! [13:28:33] now everything works [13:28:36] thank you :) [13:29:00] VasilievVV: blame river [13:29:05] he wrote it [13:29:26] brion wants me to make the PHP parser consistent with the CPP one [13:29:44] <_wooz> lo [13:29:55] 03(mod) Empty diffs appear as long columns of text when viewed in Safari - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13875 +comment (10wiki.pierroman) [13:29:56] Werdna: I may try to make it [13:30:18] VasilievVV: I'm in the middle of exams, so if I do it, it'll be next week or the week after. [13:34:16] Another problem: http://www.betashare.it/latin/ Styles are not correctly loaded [13:34:34] From the source: @import "/latin/skins/common/shared.css?97" [13:34:51] but, in my LocalSettings.php, $wgScriptPath = "/wl"; [13:35:03] :s [13:35:38] what's the problem? [13:35:41] styles are loaded from stylepath [13:36:02] (although the default is part of the scriptpath) [13:36:15] is $wgStylePath false? [13:36:48] It is on its default value. [13:37:09] (My config file doesn't assign $wgStylePath) [13:40:03] 03siebrand * r39863 10/trunk/extensions/cldr/LocalNamesEn.php: Updates of local names and most recent CLDR version [13:40:20] buzzo: maybe try setting it, see DefaultSettings for what it defaults too [13:40:25] ^to, too [13:46:10] ok now it works. A question: when I upgrade my mediawiki alla changes to files and styles will be lost? [13:46:37] yah, don't change any files [13:46:42] except localsettings [13:47:11] what changes do you need to make? js/css goes to MediaWiki:Common.js/css and ..skinname.js/css [13:47:17] localisations go to MediaWiki: namespace [13:47:27] parsing changes and such can be extensions [13:47:46] 03(mod) No plural check for Turkic and Mongolic languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13869 +comment (10huji.huji) [13:48:06] images can be uploaded (or for styles, just stuck anywhere in the web accessable path) [13:54:07] Good day, #mediawiki. [13:55:06] I'm setting up a wiki that requires users to have confirmed e-mail addresses in order to edit pages. [13:55:37] Is there any trivial or near-trivial way of checking that the e-mail address matches a certain regexp? [13:56:15] (specifically, that the domain part is in a certain set) [14:07:54] 03siebrand * r39864 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/Translate.php: Re-add export to file from web UI [14:09:19] toweri: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/isValidEmailAddr [14:09:45] ... [14:09:48] thanks! [14:09:56] hmm, Wikia used to have something... [14:10:09] accounts could only be created from a certain email address list [14:10:20] (was for the semi-private university wikis) [14:10:23] I suppose parts of the manual are outdated, not all that surprising. [14:12:15] Splarka: PrivateDomains extension, yeah. it's kinda nice, except that it requires a core hack (one new hook needs to be added to SpecialConfirmemail.php) [14:13:30] is the code in wikia's svn? [14:13:36] 03nikerabbit * r39865 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (ffs/WikiExtension.php tag/Hooks.php tag/Tag.php): [14:13:36] * Bug fix to tag [14:13:36] * Remove BAA, people didn't appreciate it for some reason ;) [14:13:57] Spl: yeah [14:14:02] Is it considered bad practice to add hooks and hook code directly to LocalSettings.php? [14:14:57] *Splarka too lazy to look for it, prompts Jack to link it [14:15:04] feh [14:15:11] I prefer my polished version ;-) [14:15:22] I intended to add it to wikimedia's svn [14:15:31] but didn't do it since brion reverted the hook addition, heh :p [14:15:50] story of your life [14:16:02] And the manual page states that the isValidEmailAddr hook is used to override the checks done by the system; however, I want only to make an additional check. Is that possible? [14:16:49] http://trac.wikia-code.com/browser/wikia/releases/200808.4/extensions/wikia/SpecialPrivateDomains [14:16:52] there it is [14:17:39] *Splarka crawls to sleep, job done [14:31:33] 03siebrand * r39866 10/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/CheckUser.i18n.php: Fix typo. [14:34:28] hem: http://betashare.it/latin/Cicerone [14:34:41] Try to click over "Modifica" (edit) [14:34:52] why? :s [14:36:02] http://www.betashare.it/latin/latin/edit/Cicerone [14:36:12] It add another /latin/ dir [14:45:03] who is familiar with central auth? [14:45:36] brion [14:46:12] somebody else who is not as busy [14:48:17] didn't Werdna write sets? [14:53:57] what is Checkuser-blocktag? [15:14:32] 03(mod) No plural check for Turkic and Mongolic languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13869 (10millosh) [15:28:15] 03(mod) Parser function on Korean Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13712 (10camway) [16:05:35] any api-hackers around? i want to make a query on logevents with letype=patrol but restrict to only "auto=0".. do I really have to examine all of the results until I find one, or is there any undocumented parameter somewhere? [16:28:37] 03(mod) Parser function on Korean Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13712 (10niklas.laxstrom) [16:48:05] 03(FIXED) Make Special:Watchlist look and behave like Special: RecentChanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15157 +comment (10siebrand) [17:24:47] 03stipe * r39867 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (16 files in 2 dirs): moving plugin code to embedLibs/ [17:25:39] 03(NEW) Special: Import should expand all templates on interwiki import - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15283 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Export/Import; (innocentkiller) [18:00:01] hi [18:00:05] does anyone know why my wiki doesn't have a description in google? [18:00:41] what could be the reason? [18:11:52] 03(NEW) bidi characters in titles should be ignored - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15284 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (cbrown1023) [18:11:59] Nikerabbit, ^^ [18:12:54] kibble: ok, now let's wait for comments, maybe we can find a resolution then [18:14:47] 03(NEW) 'ug_group' column in 'user_groups' table limited to 16 characters, but group with longer name can be created. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15285 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (altsysrq) [18:33:42] 03aaron * r39868 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/RequestAccount_body.php: code style tweaks [18:36:32] i have mediawiki installed on shared hosting plan. how can i easily password protect the whole mediawiki install? no access... no read, no write... i can't install apache modules. help? [18:37:31] should have no need for passwords installing a wiki on shared hosting [18:37:50] password-protect the install rather [18:38:11] you just need to access the database and create a password for your account [18:38:41] hello [18:38:50] i have a problem with eAccelerator [18:39:08] i have got it installed, but on a new MediWiki installation, it isnt seen [18:39:29] hello [18:39:32] hi [18:39:51] " Fatal error: Call to undefined method OutputPage::addExtensionStyle() in /home/bala6y/public_html/wiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php on line 45 " <---------- anyone knows what this should mean ? [18:39:53] any core -expert over here [18:39:58] dynasource: does it show up with phpinfo? [18:40:01] yes [18:40:09] http://83.149.71.231/~bouwow/info.php [18:40:26] Galgamesh: you are running latest flagged revs version on old mediawiki? [18:40:27] and the install: http://83.149.71.231/~bouwow/config/index.php [18:41:12] Nikerabbit I was .. but I updated my version this morning of mediawiki [18:41:13] dynasource: hmm, and it doesn't work after installing? [18:41:36] nike...i havent tried yet [18:41:49] is it easy to check? [18:43:10] dynasource: well... you could var_dump $wgMemc or $wgMessageCache perhaps :D [18:43:41] ok...thanx i will check [18:44:19] Nikerabbit ? [18:44:29] if it says FakeMemcached or something it is not in use [18:44:37] ok thanx [18:44:37] Galgamesh: it has been there for days... [18:44:50] Galgamesh: are you sure you are running up to date version? [18:45:19] MediaWiki 1.13.0 [18:45:19] PHP 5.2.5 (apache2handler) [18:45:19] MySQL 5.0.51a-community [18:46:09] it was added in 39052 [18:46:33] i downloaded the version yesterday only [18:46:44] 1_13 was tagged as 39341 [18:47:18] 39341 refers to the media wiki version ? or the extension version ? :$ [18:47:58] 1_13 was branched in 37957 [18:48:13] Galgamesh: so, 1.13.0 is too old for the newest flagged revs [18:48:25] Galgamesh: either get mediawiki from trunk or flagged revs tagged for 1.13 [18:48:59] from trunk ? :| .. where to download the latest wiki then ? [18:49:06] dynasource: also, I'm not familiar with eAccel, but if it works similar to APC, you may encounter problems with command line scripts [18:49:24] Galgamesh: there is no download for it, you need to use svn [18:50:56] okies :) ty Nikerabbit [18:52:23] nikerabbit [18:52:39] what do you mean with command line scripts [18:52:54] dynasource: those under maintenance/ [18:53:25] when do you need these... [18:53:33] only with updates? [18:53:58] dynasource: not often usually [18:54:10] just to be aware [18:54:13] you are suggesting that I should not use eAccelerator? [18:54:17] nope [18:54:35] I use APC and cope with the problems [18:54:41] ok thanx.. [18:55:06] i have had problems with installing eAccel. [18:55:11] (and APC has nice little mediawiki extension written by me) [18:55:16] but now it works with this coede in php.ini : [18:55:16] zend_extension = "/usr/local/lib/php/extensions/no-debug-non-zts-20060613/eaccelerator.so" [18:56:01] is this the reason it doesnt show up in the installation? [18:56:12] anyway, I may some point install memcached in addition to apc [18:56:21] dynasource: I don't know [18:56:25] ok thanx [18:56:39] but you are happy with APC [18:57:41] yes [18:58:47] what is your extension about? [18:58:55] http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:ViewAPC [18:59:49] are you dutch? [19:00:09] dynasource: siebrand is, why do you ask? [19:00:32] the site is in dutch..i am impressed by its automatic language [19:01:14] dynasource: aah [19:01:18] dynasource: cool, isn't it? [19:01:24] impressive [19:01:28] Nikerabbit sorry .. but when trying to install extension through shell command " php " I get this error http://rafb.net/p/Io6q9i27.html [19:02:14] Galgamesh: is the extension correctly installed? [19:02:36] <^demon> Nikerabbit: Speaking of Translatewiki...how has the ForeignApiRepo connected to commons been going? [19:02:49] nikerabbit, are there great differences in performance between APC and others? [19:02:54] ^demon: speaking of it... can you trim down the cache keys? :D [19:02:59] dynasource: no I don't think so [19:03:09] i should try apc too? [19:03:16] <^demon> Nikerabbt: I'll take a look. [19:03:19] dynasource: they are quite the same, but the zend platform what was it was noticeably better [19:03:25] 04(REOPENED) Trimmed multibyte characters result in invalid XML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15261 +comment (10maxsem.wiki) [19:03:28] 03(ASSIGNED) It should be possible to enter expiry dates for edit and move protection separately - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12650 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [19:03:39] (it took me a day to get that shitty eAccelerator to work :) , and now I want APC :) [19:03:43] mediawiki-bw_:ForeignAPIRepo:Metadata:http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?titles=Image%3A%241&iiprop=timestamp%7Cuser%7Ccomment%7Curl%7Csize%7Csha1%7Cmetadata%7Cmime&format=json&action=query&prop=imageinfo [19:03:48] that's quite verbose [19:04:00] 03(mod) It should be possible to enter expiry dates for edit and move protection separately - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12650 +need-review +patch (10mrzmanwiki) [19:04:51] <^demon> I can md5() the URL portion :-) [19:05:49] Nikerabbit i followed instructions .. the word " Run " means to execute it from shell .. right ? [19:06:16] <^demon> Nikerabbit: This better? mediawiki-bw_:ForeignAPIRepo:Metadata:bd97911e25b120a2c6efaf5912e69d8e [19:08:49] hi [19:10:57] after upgrading my distro under Ubuntu, I seem to be missing the 'page' table. it might also have had to do with a couple of crashes due to a dodgy sata card. anyway, I now get this when I try to access a page: "Table 'wikidb.page' doesn't exist (localhost)"." Am I screwed? [19:11:46] I looked in /var/lib/mysql in the directory for the mediawiki database and the file for the page table isn't there [19:12:19] <^demon> Nikerabbit: WFM and is much shorter. Gonna go ahead and commit :-) [19:13:17] 03demon * r39869 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/ForeignAPIRepo.php: md5() the URL in cache keys so they're not excessively long. Thanks to Nikerabbit for pointing this out. [19:14:02] ^demon: I guess it is, though less informative :) [19:14:13] oh he left [19:14:50] bobbyd: umm, did the version of mediawiki update? [19:19:37] Nikerabbit: I'm not sure, I'll have to find a log :( [19:20:16] Nikerabbit: sorry that I'm basically giving you no information to go on. I was just hoping that someone would say, "Ah that's simple, it's been moved to ..." or something similar. No such luck! [19:21:56] bobbyd: well, maintenance/updade.php may help, if your database is not broken [19:22:18] backups are nice though [19:30:08] hello anyone here? [19:31:20] What's the best way to incorporate different languages in a wiki? Is there a built-in function I may use? [19:31:45] different interface languages or different languages of content? [19:31:59] different languages of content. [19:32:08] no special tool needed [19:32:10] just go [19:32:21] where may I find more information on 'how-to'? [19:32:27] type whatever you like in a page, in any language [19:32:46] hmmm.. and manually link it? [19:32:52] link it to what? [19:33:28] say for example i have a page name called: computer if I wanted it to be in two different languages I would have the page name called: en.computer and fr.computer perhaps? [19:33:34] do you mean that you want two versions of the same page, one in each language? [19:33:56] yes, i think so ^ [19:33:58] you can do that but if you want the full-fledged experience, you need to install two different wikis [19:34:08] hmmm [19:34:12] you could always create duplicate pages [19:34:23] say, one in spanish and one in english [19:34:41] but there would be no way for a user to default to only the spanish pages [19:34:42] alright... say i do two or more different wikis... whats the best way to sync the wikis? [19:34:54] that doesn't exist, even in theory [19:35:11] wow... i think i understand [19:35:16] bummer [19:35:20] thank you [19:35:23] not beyond the simplistic translation offered by babelfish [19:35:42] you can edit the english version but how will that result in a change to the spanish version? [19:35:53] yah that's what i was pondering [19:36:08] it's not even clear that a human translator can do a perfect job -- some languages do not contain some concepts [19:36:36] such as, iiuc, many west african languages do not have constructs that equal "would have" or "could have" [19:36:36] true... i agree... im not necessarily going to have it auto-translate [19:36:41] you either did or you did not [19:37:05] i was thinking in the lines of having someone else translate the english version to say france [19:37:19] french* [19:37:38] it could be argued that any attempt to translate "would have" into such a language would be entirely wasted, because any reader who had no english would not understand the underlying concept or even admit it existed [19:38:36] i understand what you are saying about the delicates of translating to different languages. [19:39:50] I was just wondering if there was any other options than 1. creating duplicates of pages or 2. creating another wiki for different languages [19:40:11] sorry, i can't imagine any [19:40:25] =) not a problem Xiong... And again thank you. [19:41:04] np [19:57:20] Charitwo: u still here? [19:57:26] hi [19:57:55] hi, yeah, i asked you about password protecting a whole mediawiki site [19:58:48] i didn't quite understand ur response... how should I do this? the only solution i see online is mod_auth_mysql [19:59:08] what exactly are you wanting to do [19:59:26] i want to stop the outside world from seeing the mediawiki stie [19:59:27] *site [19:59:39] you said something about during installation, i don't get it [20:00:42] *Jack_Phoenix waves to ialex :-) [20:01:09] *ialex waves back to Jack_Phoenix ;) [20:01:14] rar [20:01:57] !preventaccess commmmodo [20:01:57] --mwbot-- For information on preventing access to your wiki, please see . [20:02:30] thanks MrZ-man [20:04:42] how can I repair my mediawiki install, do I just re-create the page table [20:04:44] ? [20:04:55] maybe I should just run setup again [20:07:24] does anybody know the erro PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library './apc.so' - ./apc.so: cannot open shared object file: [20:09:14] how did you install it? [20:09:57] pecl install apc [20:10:41] it is the same error I got with eaccelerator when putting extension=apc.so in php.ini [20:10:59] hmmm, it looks like all the old pages are in the "old" table [20:11:30] maybe I can somehow restore the current pages from the old table [20:11:51] frustrating thing.. [20:13:08] do you understand this error Nikerabbit [20:13:17] i get it when doing php -v [20:13:18] dynasource: what is your include path in php.ini? [20:14:45] ehm [20:14:48] i am sorry.. [20:15:00] server://usr/local/lib# nano php.ini [20:15:11] this you mean? [20:15:34] or something like include_path in side the file php.ini [20:16:03] latter [20:16:10] hmm [20:16:16] found it [20:16:23] but it is hidden? [20:16:44] looks like it is marked out [20:16:55] 03aaron * r39870 10/trunk/phase3/includes/HTMLCacheUpdate.php: remove comment [20:17:24] i see two options..of course it must be something like UNIX [20:17:27] include_path = ".:/php/includes" [20:17:31] weird [20:17:37] ;include_path = ".:/php/includes" [20:17:42] it has a ; infront of it [20:17:44] pecl should indeed install them on a location that works [20:18:04] the include path is not set? [20:19:17] the installation with pelc said : Installing '/usr/local/lib/php/extensions/no-debug-non-zts-20060613/apc.so' [20:20:21] Is there a reason for the skin files (at least Monobook.deps.php) to be using dirname(__FILE__) . '/includes' instead of $IP? [20:21:03] nikerabbit, i have had the same problem with eaccelerator [20:21:34] after putting it in php.ini and resetting the apache, I get an error with that he cannot find the file [20:22:00] until I used zend_extension='eaccelerator.so' it worked fine [20:22:52] is there something wrong with finding the path [20:22:57] ZeiP: why does it matter [20:23:56] no answers for me nikerabbit [20:23:58] ? [20:24:16] yes you have it broken :) [20:24:45] ? [20:24:56] what do i have broken/ [20:25:09] it is a fresh install debian 4 dedicated server [20:25:46] if I knew I would have told you :) [20:26:16] damn [20:26:20] ;) [20:27:39] dynasource: why are you in /usr/local/lib ? [20:28:18] there sould be /etc/php5/{cli,cgi,apache2}/php.ini [20:29:21] depends on your distributions. some do strange shit. [20:29:44] Duesentrieb: ubuntu has it there, I doubt debian is much different [20:29:44] oh, debian. that shoud be there then, yes... [20:30:32] re [20:30:51] nikerabbit [20:30:57] my extension_dir = "./" [20:31:18] i have debian 4 [20:31:30] Nikerabbit, we want to have all our separate wiki installations use the same skins directory, but as it doesn't reside in a/the wiki root, the expression translates to 'scoutwiki/includes', when it should be 'scoutwiki/[lang]/includes'. [20:32:27] 03aaron * r39871 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/ValidationStatistics_body.php: break long line [20:32:32] nikerabbit...I do have etc/php5/ [20:32:41] but there is only conf.d in it [20:32:58] 03aaron * r39872 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/ValidationStatistics_body.php: minor typo fix [20:33:00] 03ialex * r39873 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [20:33:00] Make SpecialAllpages and SpecialPrefixindex directly extend IncludableSpecialPage: [20:33:00] * it is possible to have the title object by calling $this->getTitle() and not by having to redefine the special page name in that classes [20:33:01] * passing the $including param is no longer required, use $this->including() instead [20:35:39] 03ialex * r39874 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialAllpages.php: forgot debugging code [20:35:56] 03(mod) It should be possible to enter expiry dates for edit and move protection separately - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12650 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [20:36:10] should mediawiki automatically upgrade it's database when you change versions? [20:36:48] I *think* I've somehow upgraded mediawiki but not the data, can I run the upgrade the database manually from 1.4 to 1.5 [20:38:48] bobbyd: run maintenance/update.php [20:38:55] make sure you have adminsettings.php set up [20:38:55] ok ta [20:39:00] ok [20:40:29] duesentrieb...can you help me with my problem of installing a caching module on DEBIAN4 [20:40:54] dynasource: no, never done it. apt-get install apc? [20:40:57] ZeiP: .... why can't you share everything [20:41:25] Nikerabbit, well, we're going there, but it needs more research (and eventually testing) to set up. [20:41:37] i keep having problems like : PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library [20:42:01] Nikerabbit, in the mean time we want to get out of the style hell :P [20:43:02] yeah [20:43:10] and come here blaming us for your problems :D [20:44:00] dynasource: have you checked the path of the .so? does that also happen when you run php from the command line? if not, can you make it happen by enabling the caching for cli mode? [20:44:16] dynasource: if you can make it happen on the command line, you can use strace to see what exactly is failing [20:44:46] Nikerabbit, of course not, simply asking if there was a reason → if it would do some harm to change that. [20:45:11] prolly no reason, actually I think those dep-files are not used anymore [20:45:39] Ok, thanks. [20:46:17] Well, they don't seem to be all that important, as renaming them did nothing except fix our errors, but I'll be putting them back just to be on the safe side. [21:06:37] yeah! that was it. php5 got screwed in my Ubuntu dist upgrade, so the data migration never ran [21:06:42] thanks dudes :) [21:56:44] 03(mod) divs with display: inline still have paragraphs added around them ( are treated as block-level by the parser) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15246 (10dan) [22:14:59] hm, who is it that works on this ReaderFeedback stuff? [22:21:28] AaronSchulz, did you already got a request to invert the order of poor (currently at the top) ... excellent (bottom) within the reader feedback area? [22:40:41] 03(mod) Changes to formatting in Special:GlobalBlockList - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15257 (10mike.lifeguard) [22:51:37] 03(NEW) Reader Feedback: reverse order of ratings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15286 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (wiki.bugzilla) [22:59:51] Bdk[a]: yeah [23:00:46] AaronSchulz: are you going to take any action on that bug with link tracking? [23:01:49] want to test more before committing [23:03:23] AaronSchulz, too late ;-) [23:10:26] VasilievVV: why? [23:11:18] AaronSchulz: we still have some bots and tracking stuff broken because of it [23:22:21] 03(NEW) Reader Feedback: default value should be "none selected" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15287 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (wiki.bugzilla) [23:22:37] 03aaron * r39875 10/trunk/phase3/includes/HTMLCacheUpdate.php: mark visibility [23:27:45] 03aaron * r39876 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (11 files in 5 dirs): [23:27:45] * Track stable-only link use in it's own table (requires schema change) (bug 15250) [23:27:45] * Use r39855 hook to trigger necessary updates using this table [23:27:45] * Move constant and use it in ratinghistory too [23:27:45] * Remove category notice and message [23:30:47] 03(FIXED) Link tracking should use latest version, not the last reviewed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15250 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [23:38:34] 03mfarag * r39877 10/branches/REL1_13/extensions/DynamicPageList2/DynamicPageList2.i18n.php: Add Arabic (ar) and Egyptian Arabic (arz) [23:50:57] 03(NEW) Global block should recognize local block exemptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15288 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (spacebirdy) [23:51:00] 03aaron * r39878 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [23:51:00] * Reverse feedback rating order (bug 15286) [23:51:00] * Add dead option that is selected by default (bug 15287) [23:51:00] * Improve feedback validation [23:51:21] 03(FIXED) Reader Feedback: reverse order of ratings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15286 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [23:51:30] 03(FIXED) Reader Feedback: default value should be "none selected" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15287 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [23:55:53] AaronSchulz, that was quick \o/ [23:56:09] those two were easy [23:56:29] 03mfarag * r39879 10/trunk/extensions/gis/ (Geo.alias.php README): [23:56:29] * Add aliases for ar and arz [23:56:29] * Update links [23:57:10] sure [23:57:57] 03aaron * r39880 10/branches/REL1_13/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/ReaderFeedback_body.php: backport key fixes