[00:00:09] 03(mod) Administrator-level configuration (Admin Console) (ie. password resets, etc) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3395 (10Platonides) [00:00:14] 03(mod) Preferences Form Customization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15235 +comment (10tylerromeo) [00:07:53] 03nad * r39988 10/trunk/extensions/SimpleSecurity/SimpleSecurity.php: typo in $wgDBtype [00:09:30] 03dale * r39989 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/mv_embed.js: improved slider handling [00:10:47] 03nad * r39990 10/trunk/extensions/SimpleSecurity/SimpleSecurity.php: must define SimpleSecurity class before implementing db hook [00:33:08] 03aaron * r39991 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: mark getOldIDFromRequest as public [00:40:35] 03aaron * r39992 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (4 files): [00:40:35] * Delay message loading [00:40:35] * Avoid some CSS/JS loading [00:40:35] * Delay text fetching [00:40:35] * Fix incidence where rating tab may not show [00:40:36] * Remove unused vars [00:44:43] hi all. i asked this (or something like it) a few days ago, but i'm trying again :) - is there a repository/dump of a wiki whos help i can import for personal use? i have a mediawiki, and i'd like the 'help' pages to be helpful :) [00:45:26] vk5foss, mediawiki.org's Help: namespace is meant to serve this purpose. [00:47:17] Simetrical: so i'm meant to just link off to mediawiki.org, or i can import that namespace? sorry if i can import it - i got the impression i cant [00:47:36] vk5foss, you can, but it's probably not very convenient. [00:48:05] It's probably easiest to just link to mediawiki.org's help pages. [00:49:18] Simetrical: ok. i'll look into re-linking the help links on the wiki (perhaps with a 'going external' warning). thanks for your help. [00:50:52] 03aaron * r39993 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/ValidationStatistics_body.php: tweak spacing [01:00:37] good morning! for installing mediawiki i followed the tutorial at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Short_urls - now I have the following problem: When I call https://hq.the-human-factor.org/wiki/ everything is okay. But calling https://hq.the-human-factor.org/wiki (whithout trailing slash) makes the browser want to download the file. Do you have an idea why that could be? [01:04:04] is it possible to put text into multiple columns somehow in mediawiki? [01:07:15] you can make a div that has multiple columns and put the content inside that [01:07:31] ok [01:07:41] is there an example of that somewhere? [01:08:03] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Reflist&action=edit [01:08:25] it's just css styling of the div, in the end [01:09:10] It doesn't work in all browsers. [01:09:15] ok, thanks carl-m [01:13:44] 03nad * r39994 10/trunk/extensions/SimpleSecurity/SimpleSecurity.php: still need to interact with LoadBalancer, but no need to modify it [01:13:51] 03aaron * r39995 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.sql archives/patch-reader_feedback.sql): unsigned [01:17:42] Simetrical: oh, thats interesting. thanks. [01:19:39] 03aaron * r39996 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.class.php: Fix count in getAverageRating() [01:26:09] 03aaron * r39997 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.class.php: ok, need more java [01:32:52] 03nad * r39998 10/trunk/extensions/SimpleSecurity/SimpleSecurity.php: still wasn't hooking into DB class, working now [01:33:57] 03nad * r39999 10/trunk/extensions/SimpleSecurity/SimpleSecurity.php: oops remove debugging output [01:37:49] is it possible to make mediawiki allow public registrations but require each registration to be approved before the user can edit pages? [01:37:58] 03nad * r40000 10/trunk/extensions/SimpleSecurity/SimpleSecurity.php: use $wgDBtype in updateLB method [01:38:20] !prevacc | k-man [01:38:20] --mwbot-- k-man: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access [02:09:30] Any chance someone can help me quickly with a template problem? [02:09:35] wikimedia 1.12.0, exported the Template:Cquote from wikipedia and imported it into my wiki and it looks really messed up. import seemed successful. [02:14:02] nonnonnon: did you make sure to export all the templates it includes? [02:14:20] yeah [02:14:23] and they all came in too [02:14:36] http://www.chicagosaysno.com/index.php/Template:Cquote [02:14:45] thats what the page for the template looks like, pretty messed up [02:15:13] and when i use it, it looks like this: http://www.chicagosaysno.com/index.php/Testing [02:15:57] you need the ParserFunctions extension [02:16:00] !e ParserFunctions [02:16:00] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions [02:16:15] ahh [02:16:44] thank you [02:19:19] Hey, for API edit, what parameters are GET, and which are POST? [02:32:32] can i use http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Page_inclusion across wikis, or only within the same wiki? [02:39:18] next up. i uploaded an svg and im getting this: error creating thumbnail: convert: must specify image size `/tmp/magick-XXnmS0zz'. [02:40:00] anyone know whats wrong here? ive got imagemagick installed and $wgUseImageResize = true; $wgUseImageMagick = true; and $wgImageMagickConvertCommand = "/usr/bin/convert"; [02:42:39] hi TimStarling [02:42:45] hi [02:43:45] just a couple more things to get through and i think im good. [02:56:33] hey is there a way to force TeX to display everything in the same size [03:11:22] next up. i uploaded an svg and im getting this: error creating thumbnail: convert: must specify image size `/tmp/magick-XXnmS0zz'. [03:11:27] anyone know whats wrong here? ive got imagemagick installed and $wgUseImageResize = true; $wgUseImageMagick = true; and $wgImageMagickConvertCommand = "/usr/bin/convert"; [03:16:27] 03(NEW) Music cuts off a couple seconds too early. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15315 major; normal; Cortado: jheora; (cuerden) [03:19:10] Is there a shorthand to link to pages on meta.wikimeda.org ?. i'd like to link to several pages, and was hoping there was a nicer way then using whole uris [03:27:42] should be able to use [[meta:article]] [03:28:06] thanks, i'll give it a try [03:28:36] infinisoft: would meta:help:contents work (for example) [03:29:31] yes [03:30:08] vk5foss: meta:ns:article works as long as the interwiki links are set up on the wiki you are using. [03:30:31] vk5foss: which should be the case for all wikimedia wikis [03:31:02] infinisoft: this is a personal wiki, so i'll check links are setup. [03:31:30] Hey, where is the code $wgGroupPermissions? (as in, what file?) [03:31:48] TheLetterX: what about it? [03:31:54] TheLetterX: you mean its default settings? [03:32:00] What file contains the code? [03:32:05] DefaultSettings.php? [03:32:10] what do you mean the "code"? [03:32:24] you mean where its defaults are set? [03:32:33] or where it's used? [03:33:02] Defaults [03:33:13] then yes, DefaultSettings.pghp [03:33:14] php* [03:33:50] All right! I found you guys! Does anyone know what or where to update to add a user? Such as " [03:33:50] 08-24-2008 [03:33:50] $1518.76 [03:34:19] All right! I found you guys! Does anyone know what or where to update to add a user? Such as "wpCreateaccount" ? I do not know PHP. [03:34:29] oops sorry [03:34:32] that was a typo [03:34:44] I'm usinv VNC to type to you. Please pardon. [03:34:47] U RELEASE-NOTES [03:34:48] U docs/hooks.txt [03:34:48] Updated to revision 40000. [03:35:03] Wow, nice. [03:35:06] *TimStarling does "lots of zeros" dance [03:35:21] TimStarling: I hate you. I wanted to get that revision :( [03:35:26] I think I got r20000 [03:35:26] it wasn't me [03:35:35]

nad * r40000 /trunk/extensions/SimpleSecurity/SimpleSecurity.php: use $wgDBtype in updateLB method [03:35:44] Nobody knows what wpCreateaccount is? [03:35:50] *Werdna slaps nad [03:36:02] you should go for r65536 [03:36:08] it's got lots of zeros when viewed in binary [03:36:09] but that's ages away [03:36:11] at least a year. [03:36:41] ... at least someone slap me with a trout? [03:36:48] I'll take slapstick if I have to ... [03:37:11] Baka62: it sounds like a form variable [03:37:11] Baka62: in the code? [03:37:19] possibly in Special:UserLogin [03:37:24] wp stands for post var, probably [03:38:11] hey splarka [03:38:25] Yes, that's exactly where it is. I have inherited this implementation (I used MediaWiki before at a library, but this is different), and the "create user" part of the page it implies exists does not show up. [03:39:41] is the wiki public? [03:39:44] Hey TimStarling, what do you think of bug 15285? I asked Werdna about it, and I was told to come to you. [03:40:12] "There is no user by the name "Baka". Check your spelling, or use the form below to create a new user account. [03:40:36] TheLetterX: sounds like a documentation issue [03:41:01] Do you happen to know if that is a legacy text error message, or perhaps something custom? The person I inherited this problem from has gone ghost. [03:41:04] So what would be wrong with the documentation? [03:41:17] it doesn't specify that >16 chars doesn't work [03:41:37] I believe the manual it displays is public, but the Wiki itself is not public. [03:41:46] Some feature in User.php could make it not work, but that would also cause confusion [03:42:19] heh , yes documentation [03:43:09] next up. i uploaded an svg and im getting this: error creating thumbnail: convert: must specify image size `/tmp/magick-XXnmS0zz'. [03:43:12] anyone know whats wrong here? ive got imagemagick installed and $wgUseImageResize = true; $wgUseImageMagick = true; and $wgImageMagickConvertCommand = "/usr/bin/convert"; [03:43:14] I see. [03:44:11] Is LocalSettings.php the only place people can change settings? (I mean besides completely changing source code) [03:44:27] Baka62: you're calling yourself "baka" on the wiki as well? that's not a very nice name... [03:44:31] Baka62: some settings are in the database, or done through interface messages. [03:44:41] TimStarling: it's "idiot" in japanese, right? [03:44:51] yes [03:44:58] the relevant message is nosuchuser [03:45:05] 'There is no user by the name "$1". [03:45:05] Check your spelling, or create a new account.' [03:45:09] Nah, I changed it to protect the Innocent ... >_> ... <_< [03:45:11] that's what it should say [03:45:33] check [[MediaWiki:Nosuchuser]], the page should be deleted if it exists [03:45:55] I imagine it says that in the PHP code, I was only parotting the erorr message. [03:46:30] on newer versions of mediawiki, there's a link to the "create user" form, instead of it just being there [03:46:50] oh bother ... [03:47:03] It seems my predecessor had implemented this in 2004. [03:50:11] Oh I hope that's not right ... MediaWiki version 0.1 ... [03:51:03] There don't happen to be FAQ's for version 0.1 do there? [03:52:11] infinisoft: thanks for teh pointer. turns out i need to use 'metawikipedia', but 'interwiki links' was a good search term :) [03:53:01] vk5foss: No prob :) [03:53:13] :) [03:53:36] Hmm, the wiki is not failing gracefully when PHP not compiled with cURL when uploading image via URL [03:54:29] Didn't see any mention of Curl in 1.13.0 changelog :( [04:11:45] Ok, I found it ... [04:12:13] adding &Createaccount=1 brought up the page once I was already logged in as an administrator. [04:12:22] Took some PHP diving (and I don't know PHP). [04:12:40] Thank you so much , Tim Starling. [04:12:58] hm. mw: isnt recognised by mediawiki 1.10 :/ *attempts a manual addition of it* [04:13:09] Farewell for now. It is my time to leave work now. :) [04:18:53] 03aaron * r40001 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: lower READER_FEEDBACK_SIZE a bit [04:24:06] 03aaron * r40002 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/ReaderFeedback_body.php: add missing return [04:35:29] 03aaron * r40003 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/ReaderFeedback_body.php: initialize $commentary [04:55:50] 03(NEW) Nested Concept's - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15316 minor; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (mrandmrsmurphy) [05:02:13] 03aaron * r40004 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.class.php: tweak transaction [05:07:57] 03aaron * r40005 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.class.php: pre-set cache key [05:10:13] 03(FIXED) the most recent revision of article is sighted, but article has "draft" mark - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15312 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [05:11:43] 03(FIXED) Sometimes, last sighted version not visible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15213 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [05:53:46] hi, I would like to define a new namespace which is only disable for a specified user-group. Is that possible? [05:54:42] $wgNamespaceRestrictions [05:55:14] thx :) [05:55:37] ^ disable edit, yah, disable view no (possible but not supported here, weak security) [05:57:06] ah disable view is not possible?! but it exist an extension? [05:57:36] hey, here's the q: Got a bug where after editing a page, clicking any button at the bottom (Save, Preview, Show Changes) just refreshes the current edit screen you're on and wipes out all the changes you've made. We've customized heavily so I'm not surprised if this is my fault. Just throwing it out there. Any thoughts. [05:58:16] Rubik: is just a bad idea to rely on it for security [05:58:23] i think i'm going to have to go on an extended debugging mission :( [05:58:27] !preventaccess [05:58:27] --mwbot-- For information on preventing access to your wiki, please see . [05:58:55] only supported (here, and by the developers) selective view setup is a separate wiki with all viewing disabled [05:59:43] Splarka: okay, thx [06:09:14] argh.. cant figure out why I cant save any pages :( [06:18:44] 03aaron * r40006 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: use better way to disable feedback by default [06:21:41] 03aaron * r40007 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: check $this->isRateable() [06:22:07] i'm giving up [06:22:14] its broken. [06:25:22] 03nad * r40008 10/trunk/extensions/SimpleSecurity/SimpleSecurity.php: Bug fix: anonymous users getting denied access regardless of page protection [06:30:42] 03raymond * r40009 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/ (MediaWikiExtensions.php mediawiki-defines.txt): Per r39982: Add new flagged revs special page [06:41:32] <_wooz> lo [06:48:36] 03tstarling * r40010 10/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php: Added __destruct(), for stable pseudo-branch [07:02:34] 03(FIXED) Remove query.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12881 +comment (10maxsem.wiki) [07:04:04] _mary_kate_: How can I cross-compile AFP for x86_64 on my local i686 box? [07:06:57] Werdna: can't you just compile it on x86_64 box? [07:07:43] 03raymond * r40011 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/language/FlaggedRevs.i18n.alias.php: Per r39982: Add new special page to alias file too [07:18:12] on a new install of MW 1.13.0 I'm finding that I get logged out quite quickly(e.g. 10 minutes), but there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the cookies, and I don't know that the time is consistent [07:18:20] any ideas of what to try? [07:19:26] my only guess so far is I wonder whether it's when there is a context switch on our host's server farm [07:20:32] erm.. I get: Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting T_OLD_FUNCTION or T_FUNCTION or T_VAR or '}' in Exception.php on line 160 [07:20:36] wtf? [07:32:19] omnivibe: are you sure it is running php5? [07:33:10] yep [07:34:01] oh wait a second... no! [07:34:07] Grr... lunarpages! [07:34:33] dpatton: does it run multiple servers? [07:58:45] could some one please tell me how to block certain pages on media wiki to be viewed by public users ? [08:00:12] !access | ozysimpson [08:00:12] --mwbot-- ozysimpson: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [08:01:50] ozysimpson: no such partial viewing is supported (or, "don't come crying to us when a partial security extension is trivially circumvented") [08:02:36] Duesentrieb: you'd think it'd almost be worth putting in the topic eh, heh [08:03:40] Splarka, i have a wiki in my organization which i want to share with public and restrict few pages that can only be viewed by my manager and sys admins [08:03:55] !cms [08:03:55] --mwbot-- Wikis are designed for openness, to be readable and editable by all. If you want a forum, a blog, a web authoring toolkit or corporate content management system, perhaps don't use wiki software. There is a nice overview of free tools available at including the possibility to try each system. For was to restrict access in MediaWiki, see !access. [08:05:15] it isn't just a philosophy, but a technical matter (which evolved from the philosophy) [08:05:37] for example, there are over a dozen ways to access page content or partial content [08:05:57] in other words: [08:05:59] !secrets [08:05:59] --mwbot-- MediaWiki was not designed with read-restrictions in mind, and may not provide air-tight protection against unauthorized access. We will not be held responsible should private information, such as a password or bank details, be leaked, leading to loss of funds or one's job. [08:06:15] transclusion/preloading/export/rss/atom/search/diff/action/preview/caching/indexing/sectionedits/api. and other extensions that might be installed [08:06:28] !worstcase [08:06:28] --mwbot-- generally, the worst that can happen is that someone compromises your site, steals your data, deletes it and replaces is with kiddy porn. then starts a spam service on your server advertizing the kiddy porn to twenty million email addresses, daily. Then your home gets raided, you get fired and your wife leaves you. [08:06:34] hehe :P [08:07:17] ozysimpson: the only semi-supported method is to make a parallel wiki (same install, different localsettings) which is completely read protected -> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_viewing_of_all_pages [08:08:24] Splarka, ozysimpson: well, there are some way of selective read protection that work ok (i like to think - i wrote one of the more popular options). but still, there's no guarantee, and this is simply not what mediawiki was designed for. [08:08:25] official wikimedia wikis use this method [08:08:52] which means, mediawiki is and was designed for full read restrictions, or full read access, but not really in between, as dues said [08:09:39] even so, I've accidentally gained access to a fully read protected wiki that was slightly misconfigured [08:10:02] (was a sysop on another wiki and the two had shared user db) [08:10:48] so if the data is a secret list of people on the wiki who you think are "pooheads", one of these extensions is probably fine [08:10:58] if however it is the secret recipe for Coke, then it isn't [08:11:06] Thanks Guys i might give it a complete read restriction [08:11:22] be sure to disable account creation [08:11:43] (or restrict read to sysops, and not user/*) [08:12:14] Splarka, sure will do so :) [08:12:58] Or is there some other products in the market that can do the same as wiki + restriction mechanism ? [08:13:47] :/ always with the names for wiki hosts... but never with the resources... [08:13:47] Duesentrieb, per http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Security_issues_with_authorization_extensions do you think it is worth mentioning static dumps, full XML dumps, etc? [08:14:02] *Dantman wonders if he should get back to working on that comparison [08:14:27] *Splarka knows one closed wiki that had dumps available accidentally [08:14:37] (yay for automated processes) [08:17:18] Splarka: mention it if you like, but i don't think it really fits. i mean, if you make a dump, it's going to contain everything, no? [08:17:48] :o [08:17:51] hmm, good point [08:18:02] ozysimpson: there are dozents and dozents of wiki engines .mediawiki is by no means the only one, and not the best choice for every need. [08:18:03] Splarka: we too have backups :o [08:18:15] Blasphemy! [08:18:24] Nikerabbit: backups to info leakage? [08:18:34] what's that, those flashy things from MIB? [08:18:49] ozysimpson: mediawiki is designed as an open massive collaboration text editing too. its prima application is wikipedia, its prime feature is scalability. [08:18:52] Splarka: no.. public backups :o [08:19:20] Nikerabbit: to private wikis? [08:19:32] we == wikimedia? [08:20:21] *Lady_Aleena sets out some cookies and milk then plops on the sofa and turns on the TV. [08:20:39] it's a trap! [08:21:08] Okay...you caught me, I am looking for something, I just don't know what. [08:21:32] Rats! [08:21:42] Dantman, bats? [08:21:53] ^_^ Mice? [08:21:57] dice [08:22:03] Aww... I was thinking Lice [08:22:10] fats [08:22:16] Role-player here... [08:22:18] mats? [08:22:22] the cookies are full of fats, she wants us lethargic and sitting here attentive [08:22:22] spats [08:22:27] heh [08:22:34] *Lady_Aleena is evil. [08:22:37] splats ;) [08:23:22] http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/archive/2008/08/25/8893033.aspx [08:24:47] I want to be able to type [[Something/Something else|]] and have just "Something else" appear, or [[Anohter something#Another thing|]] and have just "Another thing" appear. I want {{ROOTPAGENAME}} and a pretty Special:SiteMatrix. [08:26:32] hey guys [08:26:51] Basically bugs 845, 12872, and 14949. [08:26:59] im trying to add a paypal donate button on my wiki...but when i enter the code paypal provides, it just shows the code on the wiki page instead of just the button [08:28:39] b00st3d: wikipedia does not use HTML [08:28:42] !html [08:28:42] --mwbot-- For allowing any and all HTML, see . This is of course VERY DANGEROUS. Safer options include , and . [08:29:27] werda, which extension do you recommend? [08:29:32] or is there a way around it? [08:29:46] there is probably one specifically for paypal [08:29:50] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PayPal [08:29:54] b00st3d: If it were me, I'd write a paypal extension myself [08:29:56] or http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Simple_Forms [08:30:02] splarka! [08:30:04] thanks buddy [08:30:08] 03(ASSIGNED) Nested Concept's - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15316 minor->15enhancement; normal->high; +comment (10markus) [08:30:15] always good to see u here helpin me :P [08:30:17] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MiniDonation [08:30:53] rar [08:30:58] zip [08:31:07] the minidonation extension looks a lot more easy [08:31:08] hehe [08:31:29] There was a simpler way to say that b00st3d. :) [08:31:58] it takes a lot of work to be that lazy [08:32:10] Splarka, I know. [08:33:38] 03(mod) Multiple Synonyms - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15305 (10markus) [08:48:36] hello folks [08:49:04] I have a question that I would like to ask regarding image uploading in wikimedia [08:49:17] *mediawiki [08:49:33] anyone willing to help? [08:49:41] !ask [08:49:41] --mwbot-- Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [08:50:03] oh ok lol sorry [08:50:45] i've set image uploading as true in the local settings file but i can't find a form or something in which i can upload pictures while editing a page [08:51:05] it's in the toolbox on the left [08:51:08] it's unrelated to editing [08:51:31] !images [08:51:31] --mwbot-- For instructions to use images in MediaWiki, see . For more technical details about image uploads, see and . Note that uploads are disabled per default (see !uploads). [08:52:09] actually... look at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Managing_files [08:52:23] ok thanks alot for the help guys :) [08:58:25] say guys is there a way to make sure that only some specific users will be able to edit pages or add new ones? (not all the registered users but only some of them) [08:58:54] !access [08:58:54] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [08:59:06] thanks :) [09:17:15] 03mkroetzsch * r40012 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/storage/SMW_SQLStore2.php: Return no inlinks using internal properties (Bug 15279). [09:18:38] 03(FIXED) Strange behaviour of Page Type in Array - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15279 +comment (10markus) [09:37:56] 03(NEW) Tips to improve user experience and ergnonomy of Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15317 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (noelecocq) [09:38:54] how often are the RSS feeds updated? [09:39:00] mmm... confirming https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15292 this is bad... [09:41:02] argh [09:41:08] I hate bugbags [09:42:38] bugbags ? :) [09:45:07] 03(mod) Anonymous users don't see "Youhavenewmessages" alert - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15292 (10sb_paramount) [09:48:58] 03(mod) Multiple Synonyms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15305 (10dasch_87) [09:52:43] 03nad * r40013 10/trunk/extensions/SimpleSecurity/SimpleSecurity.php: update messages [09:54:20] 03(mod) Anonymous users don't see "Youhavenewmessages" alert - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15292 (10nicdumz) [09:59:10] 03(mod) Tips to improve user experience and ergnonomy of Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15317 +comment (10Andrew) [10:30:22] Hi!: I've gor a simple question... I need to add a banner of the hoster, at the bottom of the mediawikik page. There where "Powered by MediaWiki" banner is located... Can you tell me how to do it, or where to read about it? [10:34:55] O_o editpage is wierd... [10:35:12] shaplov: Easiest way is to modify the skin [10:36:45] TimStarling: Erm... EditPage's $hidden for wpTextbox1.. it uses type="hidden" style="display:none;"... kinda redundant? mind if I remove the style? [10:36:52] Dantaman: skins/MonoBook.php ?? Seems to me that I've find it in the FAQ. Thanks ;-) [10:37:00] mhmm [10:37:45] Dantman: you should find out why it's there [10:38:53] Time to hand out some `svn blame`... [10:40:58] Dantman: please, it's svn praise :) [10:41:05] heh [10:41:19] Or ViewVC annotate if you prefer ;) [10:41:40] that has the advantage of not taking a century. [10:42:34] I dislike shell for large sets of text [10:42:45] logs, doing cli stuff, ok... [10:42:57] But trying to read a huge diff... ugh [10:43:04] 03(mod) Music cuts off a couple seconds too early. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15315 +comment (10tstarling) [10:45:27] Nikerabbit: r10367, for hidden you used both a type=hidden and a display:none; on the style... care to enlighten me? any special reason to keep it, or is it just everyday coding? [10:46:46] !rev 10367 [10:46:46] --mwbot-- http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=10367 [10:48:02] Dantman: no idea [10:48:21] if it work without... remove it [10:48:22] ^_^ Well, if you have no idea... then I suppose it's fine to just get rid of it [10:48:45] Tis easier without it... I'm using an Xml class function this time arround... [10:48:45] !bug 15063 [10:48:45] --mwbot-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15063 [10:48:55] XML class is cool :) [10:50:27] I'm moving the actual output of wpTextbox1 into a showFormTextArea function, so I need to tweak thinks like rows, cols, editwidth, and that hidden to be internal to that function instead of scattered arround showEditForm [10:50:46] Xml::textarea was just a bit nicer than using a long string [10:51:31] ^_^ I personally like how my markup abstraction library has a special handling of the name input [10:51:45] Hi, does anyone has experience with Barrylb's fix for ampersands in page titles? [10:51:48] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Barrylb/Fix_for_ampersand_in_titles [10:51:58] If you use an array, it assigns to both name and id [10:52:27] ..., $name, ... | ..., array( $name, $id ), ... [10:52:44] Next best thing to having a language that supports function calls with key inputs [10:53:19] *Werdna wonders if Dantman ever stops bragging. [10:53:33] heh, just random chatter [10:54:09] Easiest topic to find, is an interesting bit about something you've done... [10:54:32] ^_^ Obviously because it's easier to remember something that you've done, than something that someone else has [10:54:52] You ever heard of brion's RawSql idea? [10:55:12] no, I haven't. [10:55:45] He thought of using a RawSql object in the database system, so that we could input raw sql into functions and have them ignore it [10:56:06] ie: Put a JOIN inside of $tables, and have tableName ignore it instead of turning it into a name [10:56:16] that's a nifty idea. [10:56:24] Honnestly... it works beautifully in practice [10:56:40] And it works beautifully in more areas than just database abstraction [10:57:10] Think of using it in markup abstraction? [10:57:32] we could get rid of Xml::tags [10:57:37] ^_^ [10:57:55] I've got the same thing, and I'm thinking of doing that as well [10:58:13] Though... I kinda like the shortness of 'tags' over 'element'... actually I might go for using 'tag' as the generic [10:58:48] I like the Xml class [10:58:50] very elegant [10:59:04] produces far nicer code than putting raw HTML in. [10:59:18] ^_^ the real beauty is in things like $ml->a( $url, $ml->img( $src, 'foo' ) ); vs. $ml->a( $url, ' foo

' ); [10:59:55] The later will output the escaped html tags... but even though the former basically outputs the same thing... it doesn't get escaped [11:02:49] Hmmm... maybe I'll use showTextbox1() instead of showFormTextArea() [11:03:16] 03(NEW) Change wiki logo on ka.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15318 trivial; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (malafaya) [11:03:33] I'll do something similar for Textbox2 [11:05:46] test [11:05:49] Duh, Barrylb's fix does not work in 1.13 [11:07:35] How can I deal with ampersands in page titels? [11:07:52] Paths or queries? [11:08:09] Actually... where is the issue? [11:08:21] ;) And normally, it's always good to urlencode things [11:09:29] Pages with ampersand in the title won't show [11:09:50] What do you mean by that? and where? [11:09:53] http://nl.wikisage.org/wiki/Opperlandse_taal-_%26_letterkunde [11:10:32] http://nl.wikisage.org/wiki/?title=Opperlandse_taal-_%26_letterkunde Your rewrite rules are broken [11:11:02] Ok, so where do I find these? [11:11:17] That depends on how you setup shorturls [11:11:45] brb [11:13:24] $wgScriptPath = "/w"; [11:13:27] $wgArticlePath = "/wiki/$1"; [11:15:05] The issue isn't to do with MediaWiki [11:15:14] Messing with the config there isn't going to help [11:15:28] So what can I do? [11:15:39] It's the rewrite rules... something to do with your webserver... likely a .htaccess file [11:17:15] Nothing in .htaccess except AuthUserFile [11:19:04] Wait, there is another one level up [11:19:04] Then someone probably did the shorturl stuff inside of the Apache config... or whatever your webserver's config is [11:19:36] RewriteEngine On [11:19:38] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f [11:19:47] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d [11:19:57] RewriteRule ^wiki/(.*)$ w/index.php?title=$1 [PT,L,QSA] [11:20:08] RewriteRule ^wiki/*$ wiki/ [L,QSA] [11:20:16] RewriteRule ^/*$ wiki/ [L,QSA] [11:20:21] That's it [11:20:29] !rewriteproblems [11:20:29] --mwbot-- 1) Try as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root. [11:22:44] Well, they look exactly the same [11:22:49] *Dantman wonders if he should temporarily use s smw cloak [11:23:08]