[00:01:15] http://dev.dev.wiki-tools.com/extensions2/TestingGrounds/XWT.php [00:01:34] Right at this moment... it only handles tags (Not though) [00:01:57] However it's actually using a rule based parsing like the Preprocessor... [00:02:08] So after I fix up the parsing, it's quite trivial to add new syntaxes [00:02:49] ;) In fact... I intend to allow extensions to change rules using a hook... ie: Define a new syntax without needing to do complex parsing themselves [00:07:57] 03(mod) Fatal error due to passing invalid title to Linker::link ( from a summary) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15351 15enhancement->major (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [00:17:03] Is there a way to disable summaries on talk pages? [00:18:27] __NOTOC__ ? [00:22:28] 03(mod) Maintain active user count for Special:Statistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13585 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [00:22:32] That's for turning off Table of Contents. I mean disabling the summary input box on the edit page [00:23:13] tekmosis: summaries? [00:24:45] tekmosis: you don't need to enter a summary [00:25:25] If a user has the preference to remind them if they have a blank summary it will trigger even on talk pages. I don't see a reason for this on talk pages so I wanted to disable the functionality [00:25:33] hrmm [00:25:59] w/e [00:26:12] why is [[Commons:Welcome|Welcome]] to Wikimedia Commons not localized? ([[メインページ]] [00:26:32] ?? [00:26:36] where? [00:26:53] at [[メインページ]] [00:27:05] which is? [00:27:53] oh, whoops [00:28:03] *jeremyb thought he was in #wikimedia-commons [00:28:10] i presume it's the japanese landing page for commons [00:28:20] sorry [00:30:08] jeremyb: were you talking about the left-side navigation bar? [00:30:33] qsheets: no. right next to the search box in the main content area [00:30:53] qsheets: cary said it was actually there in japanese too (underneath i guess) [00:32:45] jeremyb: she is right [00:33:28] 03(mod) Maintain active user count for Special:Statistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13585 (10JSchulz_4587) [00:38:45] 03(NEW) Dynamically loading forms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15362 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (lleoliveirabr) [00:42:04] 03dale * r40199 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (example_usage/sample_page.php mv_embed.js mv_playlist.js): playlist updates [01:24:24] How do I search svn for the most recent commit by me? [01:24:42] davidmccabe, svn log | grep david? [01:26:48] That won't take hours? [01:27:04] thanks [01:30:42] <_mary_kate_> https://fisheye.toolserver.org/browse/~author=david/wikimedia [01:31:56] davidmccabe, listing a few ten thousand revisions doesn't take hours unless you're running the SVN server off someone's wristwatch. :P [01:34:32] Simetrical: Hey, I see you have done some refactoring in Linker. [01:34:34] *Smooch*!! [01:34:50] I was gonna have to do that pretty soon. [01:34:54] :) [01:35:09] Finally, someone who might appreciate the refactoring more than they're annoyed by the regressions. ;) [01:35:32] I'm slightly annoyed but more happy. [01:38:36] The regressions were only in trunk, why should they annoy you? Are you running a trunk wiki? [01:39:20] Simetrical: The regressions don't annoy me; having to rewrite my customizations do. [01:39:24] But it's only temporary. [01:39:37] Well, the old functions still work. [01:39:57] Except the hook that was only around for one version, which Brion said I should remove and which was only used by one extension that I saw anyway. [01:39:58] Riht but my patch against them broke. [01:40:07] mmmmm [01:40:09] that's the one ;) [01:41:38] Oh, you're maintaining patches to core code instead of committing changes. Silly David. [01:41:46] my changes got reverted! [01:41:54] and it was just until I got around to refactoring Linker. [01:41:57] But now you've gone and done it. [01:42:18] What were the changes? [01:42:25] Something that can be ported to the new hooks? [01:42:25] adding that hook. [01:42:28] yes. [01:42:31] :) [01:42:36] I'm just reading the code now to figure out wha tthe new hooks are. [01:45:06] Simetrical: I'm going to add a hook for adding custom link attributes, since I see none. [01:45:10] Unless I'm missing something. [01:45:24] davidmccabe, shouldn't LinkBegin and LinkEnd do that? [01:45:41] oh, neat. [01:45:48] I wasn't paying attention. [01:45:52] Just edit the $customAttribs array in LinkBegin. [01:45:55] got it. [01:46:01] didn't see that was passed in. [01:46:03] Probably why your last hook got reverted. ;) [01:46:11] Simetrical: You should stop using ordered assoc arrays!!! [01:46:16] You can do it in LinkEnd, too. [01:46:20] Simetrical: no, it didn't do that before. [01:46:38] Simetrical: You want a list of tuples. [01:46:40] davidmccabe, why? There's nothing wrong with them. Anyway, I'm not particularly relying on the order. [01:46:48] What? I want an associative array. [01:46:52] Simetrical: You can't reorder them. [01:46:56] And for consistency of output it's nice if it's ordered. [01:47:04] I don't follow. [01:47:05] Associative arrays can't be reordered, so if the order matters, you shouldn't use them. [01:47:23] This is marginal because it's only *nice* that the order be the same, not necessary. [01:47:25] I'll grant you that. [01:47:27] First of all, associative arrays can be reordered, although not necessarily very cleanly. [01:47:31] Second of all, order isn't really important. [01:47:36] You have to rewrite the array. [01:47:40] Third of all, an array of tuples would be horrifically ugly. [01:48:00] http://pastie.textmate.org/pastes/106068 [01:48:12] You would have to search through it manually if you want to check for an attribute's presence or value, or modify an existing attribute, or replace an existing attribute. [01:48:21] ok. [01:48:22] fine. [01:48:26] PHP just sucks, not you. [01:48:38] Instead of just using the completely natural array indexing operation. [01:49:20] If it were Python I'm not sure what I'd do, since I really do want an ordered associative array here, unless you have some elegant way of handlings insertions and deletions and whatever for your data format. [01:49:28] Having to write custom functions is not elegant or clean. [01:49:40] It's ugly, error-prone, and hard for coders to understand. [01:49:56] Built-in, well-supported data types should be used wherever possible. [01:52:53] ceded. [01:53:13] That's also why we should change our error format from array of arrays to associative array. [01:53:34] It's a PITA to work with, quite confusing. [01:54:01] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_checkusership#Wrong_venue [01:54:19] ugh, I hope MW.org doesn't get this stupid [01:55:15] AaronSchulz, it won't as long as it's run by a small group of mutually trusting users. [01:55:23] enwiki used to be, but then it got too big. [01:56:31] So let's just keep it a technocracy. :) [02:03:42] ^_^ Writing a new parser is fun..... except when ilinks are dominant over nowiki tags... rotfl [02:13:25] woot... nowiki+ilink handling [02:23:33] Simetrical, i noted your "I can't reproduce." at that fatal error bug (Linker::link passed invalid target) ... http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Bdk/Test&diff=209441&oldid=209440 [02:23:45] Bdk[a], I meant locally. [02:23:49] Should have clarified. [02:24:11] I can reproduce fine on mw.org, but not on localhost. [02:24:16] ah, ok :-) [02:24:19] It should hopefully be fixed next scap, anyway. [02:24:38] yup [02:26:21] many thanks for working on such issues, btw [02:36:10] 03shinjiman * r40200 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Old/Late Time Chinese [02:36:55] I like Chinese... food [02:45:06] Hi all [02:45:16] Hi [02:45:32] Just getting started with Media-wiki [02:45:48] Using it for a new client [02:46:18] You all on here? [02:48:25] taylorhayward, just ask your question :-) [02:49:49] I'm concerned about extending the application, e.g. making special web pages, for the Wiki I'm making, and forking the code base from future releases of Wikimedia [02:49:56] I've looked over the documentation [02:50:20] I'm looking to significantly re-skin the app in several different ways. [02:50:25] And I'm wondering... [02:50:42] What the best way to upgrade the codebase once I've made changes? [02:50:46] wikimedia or mediawiki? ;-) [02:50:52] How do I isolate the code? [02:50:57] hahaha [02:51:00] MediaWiki [02:51:05] As I said, I'm new. [02:51:14] I've set one up on my server to try it. [02:51:56] Even being new is no reason to call MediaWiki "Wikimedia", /sarcasm [02:52:20] ok ok [02:52:24] I deserve that. [02:52:55] taylorhayward: you mean skins like the MonoBook skin? [02:52:57] Here's my lovely 2 hours implementation. [02:52:57] http://taylorhayward.com/mediawiki/ [02:53:00] heh [02:53:38] hmph [02:53:42] Well, actually, I'm meen more like Wikiinvest.com [02:54:46] yup... that's skinning [02:54:50] hahah [02:55:02] *qsheets does that too [02:55:09] I'm going to be working on MediaWiki for the next 6 months. [02:55:15] i.e. http://www.adambots.com [02:56:20] taylorhayward: you know how to make your own custom skin, right? [02:56:22] Looking at adambots now [02:56:26] What's with everyone and wikiinvest [02:56:32] That's in the docks. [02:56:33] idk [02:56:58] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs Patrolling Configuration on Classical Chinese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14715 (10itsminecookies) [02:57:02] I'm curious about whether you think WikiInvest had to fork the codebase to get it to do what it did? [02:57:15] no [02:57:22] Really? [02:57:24] Wow [02:57:29] I didn't suspect that. [02:57:32] WikiInvest is obviously running on a hacked version of MW [02:57:42] They use /namespace/Page links [02:57:50] And do you think upgrading is a one day/week affair for them? On a guess? [02:57:56] Ahhhh [02:58:03] They haven't updated [02:58:11] Damn nice site. [02:58:15] They are far out of date [02:58:20] Hmmm, I wonder why? [02:58:36] I want to avoid that with my project. [02:58:41] Up to date is the way to go. [02:58:47] Cause they hacked it and don't feel compelled to update [02:58:50] mhmm [02:59:06] But they didn't have to hack it eh [02:59:09] Good to know. [02:59:14] I'll read up more on namespaces. [02:59:32] Is there some way I can support the MediaWiki project? [02:59:33] Namespace:Page is the proper syntax [02:59:40] Ok [02:59:40] Dantman: did you see how many extensions WikiInvest is running [02:59:51] How many? [03:00:05] http://www.wikinvest.com/special/Version [03:00:13] take a look [03:00:39] just a ffew [03:00:48] some aren't isted [03:01:02] Ya... of course with that kind of setup [03:01:03] except in the bottom table [03:02:12] So, Adambots isn't hacked? [03:02:15] Looks good. [03:02:29] Looks like Scriptaculous is nesteled right in there. [03:03:44] nope [03:03:45] 03(mod) Global deleted image review for Commons admins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14801 (10mohsensalek) [03:04:00] taylorhayward: we write our own skins [03:04:42] it doesn't look too good with MonoBook anymore though [03:04:55] Mmmm [03:05:14] qsheets; I just noticed from the source, you're all up to date. [03:05:19] Nice [03:05:20] yup [03:05:53] Well, like I was saying, is there some way I can support the community? [03:05:54] just go into the skins dir copy monobook and change the name [03:06:05] I did that, works well. [03:06:33] qsheets: I'll be making much more dramatic changes, and I want to know where my limits are. [03:06:48] you can always donate to MediaWiki or give support to those in need [03:06:50] i see [03:07:21] qsheets: I like the data/user managment of the code base for one. [03:07:32] *qsheets bypassed those limits with his other site [03:07:37] qsheets: two, I think it's a very very well documented product. [03:07:56] qsheets: what other site? [03:08:12] it is... even Adobe uses it [03:08:26] qsheets: nice. Respect. [03:08:26] http://firstchat.elementfx.com [03:09:12] the DB screams MediaWiki but the rest is custom [03:09:40] *AaronSchulz just watched Obama's acceptance speech [03:09:51] lol [03:09:51] ^_^ You could also pay one of the developers to build mroe features... heh [03:09:58] lol [03:10:13] Dantman: is that a joke? I'll do it. [03:10:30] ^_^ How much, what feature? [03:10:39] Dantman: I'm sure there will come a time. [03:10:40] *Skizzerz wrestles Dantman :P [03:10:47] heh [03:11:08] *Skizzerz goes back to making a javascript widget [03:11:09] *qsheets thinks brion, avar, and TimStarling could use the money [03:11:18] Dantman: I'm not sure what the work peddling rules are here, but here's my site. http://taylorhayward.com [03:11:37] Dantman: feel free to contact me. [03:11:50] I've got a job already [03:11:54] hehe [03:12:08] Ooohh... yay, tim... [03:12:10] Dantman: that IS a good question though... that's like the second time someone wanted to mimic WikiInvest in a week or two... :P [03:12:14] No worries guys, I really don't want to piss you all off. [03:12:39] ^_^ Yup... and one is intending to pay... [03:12:41] Skizzerz: Well, it's a damn good interface, I'll say that. [03:12:45] TimStarling: heh, I'd work for extra :) [03:12:53] heh [03:13:03] more $ = better [03:13:09] $_$ [03:13:53] TimStarling: T_T Please tell me I'm not crazy, or am at least as sane as you? Did you have fun building the preprocessor? If so, if it wasn't going to be used would you still have had fun? [03:15:07] <_sj_> I have a #tag question [03:15:11] ask :) [03:15:13] <_sj_> I can't get it to work nicely with imagemap [03:15:23] hi _sj_ [03:15:29] <_sj_> hiya tim! [03:15:30] <_sj_> {{#tag:imagemap| [03:15:30] <_sj_> Image:wiki.jpg|200px|wiki logo [03:15:30] <_sj_> default [[Wiki]] [03:15:30] <_sj_> desc none [03:15:31] <_sj_> }} [03:15:37] Dantman: programming is always fun, especially when it's challenging [03:15:44] ^_^ Yay... [03:15:52] <_sj_> what's the right way to invoke this? [03:15:56] you get to admire your code like an artwork [03:16:00] <_sj_> heh [03:16:10] Though... I still doubt my own sanity... heh [03:16:10] _sj_: with lots of {{!}} [03:16:20] or absoultely hate it so much that you wish you burnt it instead of commited it ;) [03:16:21] <_sj_> aha :) [03:16:27] heh [03:16:58] I made an extension like that once... [03:17:12] ^_^ I'm building a new parser with syntax derived from WikiText... even though it's probably not going to be used by anyone... [03:17:38] *Skizzerz would use the better of the two [03:17:54] or would there be an __LOLMAGICWORD__ that controls what syntax is used? [03:18:02] *Skizzerz be curious [03:18:05] Dantman: I think projects like that can be useful to extend your skills [03:18:08] ^_^ I say that because it's completely incompatible with normal WikiText [03:18:11] Mhmm [03:18:27] but don't try to make a career out of it [03:18:31] a: {{Start}}Link{{End}} will never be supported [03:18:33] heh [03:18:47] programming to help other people is ultimately more rewarding [03:19:06] makes the coding more enjoyable imo too :) [03:19:07] <_sj_> what is {{!}} for ? [03:19:10] *Lady_Aleena still wants to be able to use images in links. [03:19:28] b: [[Image:Foo.png|thumb|right]] renders as a link to [[Image:Foo.png]] with the display text "thumb|right" [03:19:29] *_sj_ used to have an old friend named aleena [03:19:34] _sj_: usually it's a template that contains the | character, since a raw | can't be used in parser functions and templates, etc. [03:19:39] [[PAGENAME|[[Image:Something.svg|10px]]]] or some such. [03:19:58] <_sj_> ach [03:20:26] <_sj_> I did discover this while trying to set up ^ * x _ + | abbreviations [03:21:02] <_sj_> delectable [03:21:05] <_sj_> thanks [03:21:23] AaronSchulz: [03:21:26] - header( 'Content-Encoding:' ); [03:21:26] + header( 'Content-Encoding:', true ); [03:21:29] it's true by default [03:21:33] you pass false to make it not replace [03:22:40] <_sj_> TimStarling, I'll bring up using html dumps tomorrow during the wikireader chat [03:23:54] at 19:00 UTC? that's early for me at the moment :) [03:23:58] <_sj_> yeah [03:24:00] <_sj_> sorry [03:24:04] *Lady_Aleena sighs and sits quietly on the sofa until there is another question she can answer. [03:24:09] 9am, I got up at about 11am today [03:24:19] but maybe I can get up for it [03:24:28] <_sj_> next one will be 7.25 hrs off ;) [03:24:53] I haven't gotten around to examining the space usage yet [03:25:15] <_sj_> lady aleena: as for handling images-linking-to-things in general... I hope mw comes to implement other defaults for "what images link to" [03:26:06] <_sj_> recent stats from the olpcwiki suggest roughly 10% of Uruguayan children 6-13 [still] expect images to link to content pages, after a month of exposure to mediawiki [03:26:53] _sj_, I would like it sooner than later. I have a page right now that is breaking since I am using {{#ifexist:}}s with {{Click}} to make things visible if they exist. If I could use an image instead of text for a link, I could just include class="check-icon" to the table and be done with it. [03:26:57] <_sj_> the imagemap options for an 'info' link aren't half bad [03:27:02] <_sj_> a bit bright though [03:27:10] <_sj_> tim: I reckon that will come up [03:27:46] <_sj_> cjb's willing to be persuaded [03:28:22] hiho _sj_ :-) [03:29:06] morning Tim [03:29:21] hi Werdna [03:29:30] exams are over! [03:29:46] *Werdna relieved. [03:30:00] yay [03:32:04] whoa, a 2100-barrel paintball gun painting the mona lisa in one go. [03:33:37] http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/08/mythbusters_build_a_2100barrel_paintball_gun_to_paint_the_mona_lisa_instantly-2.html [03:59:59] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on he.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14648 (10dovijacobs) [04:09:18] 03(NEW) .ogv extension breaks thumbnailing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15363 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (sco_scam) [04:20:10] 03(NEW) article history year and month selection followed by browsing to older edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15364 minor; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (plushpuffin) [04:25:52] 03(ASSIGNED) article history year and month selection followed by browsing to older edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15364 (10JSchulz_4587) [04:28:16] AaronSchulz: On the German village pump comes up a discussion about the patrol right/feature. nobody incl me knows why it is aktive since we use the flaggedRevs [04:29:05] $wgFlaggedRevsPatrolNamespaces [04:29:12] who's jschulz_4587? (any relation to AaronSchulz?) [04:31:32] yes, that's him. [04:31:50] AaronSchulz: did you mean to assign that to yourself? [04:34:17] AaronSchulz: ah I see. is it safe to remove all namespaces from $wgFlaggedRevsPatrolNamespace? because it is not really used, only automatic patrols show up in the patrol lo [04:34:19] g [04:34:32] Raymond_: make a request [04:34:43] Raymond_: hmm [04:34:50] or I'll just disable it by default [04:35:53] 03aaron * r40201 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: tweak $wgFlaggedRevsPatrolNamespaces for WMF [04:35:57] AaronSchulz: maybe better. [04:36:22] thanks :) [04:38:22] *jeremyb pokes AaronSchulz [04:50:09] 03(mod) Advanced (boolean) #ask: functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13886 (10naught101) [05:00:15] whois Yaron [05:00:24] whoops [05:02:55] 03(mod) article history year and month selection followed by browsing to older edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15364 (10bugzilla+org.wikimedia) [05:19:18] 03aaron * r40202 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (Pager.php specials/SpecialContributions.php): [05:19:18] * Fix issue with "next" link going to the same place when date given (bug 15364) [05:19:18] * Remove some cruft in ContribsPager [05:19:35] 03(FIXED) article history year and month selection followed by browsing to older edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15364 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [05:21:58] 03(mod) article history year and month selection followed by browsing to older edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15364 (10N/A) [05:52:18] 03dale * r40203 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [05:52:18] fixed special page listing [05:52:18] fixed refresh context for media search link building [05:58:07] 03mkroetzsch * r40204 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/SMWAdmin/SMW_SpecialSMWAdmin.php: fixed doc typo [05:59:47] why isn't https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15360 closed? [06:07:56] 04(REOPENED) CheckUser should use the hook "AuthPluginAutoCreate" and catch autocreated users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14474 +comment (10Andrew) [06:11:25] 03(mod) there are problem in russian edition - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15301 (10Andrew) [06:16:53] 03werdna * r40205 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalBlocking/GlobalBlocking.i18n.php: (bug 15258) Add globalblocking-logpagetext message. [06:17:34] 03(FIXED) The system message MediaWiki:Globalblocking-logpagetext doesn' t exist in the code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15258 +comment (10Andrew) [06:21:19] anyone know where I can get the gadgets used on wikipedia? [06:21:37] ie. [[mediawiki:popups.js]] [06:21:42] copy from there is the license allows [06:21:48] 03(mod) FCKeditor extension (WYSIWYG): new hook needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13821 +comment (10Andrew) [06:21:57] Yeah. Look at Special:PrefixIndex/MediaWiki:Gadget [06:22:43] *Werdna giggles. [06:22:45] I know how the MediaWiki namespace works, I invented it -- TimStarling [06:27:22] 03mkroetzsch * r40206 10/tags/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/REL_1_2_2/includes/SMW_GlobalFunctions.php: fix typo in released file (yes, committing updates to released versions is bad style ...) [06:30:43] 03(FIXED) Error when upgrading to SMW 1.2.2 with MediaWiki 1.11.2 - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15354 +comment (10markus) [06:30:53] 03(mod) {{PAGELENGTH}} magic word - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13483 (10naught101) [06:34:12] 03(mod) {{PAGELENGTH}} magic word - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13483 (10naught101) [06:41:03] I wrote a plugin for mediawiki. under which licence can I put it? Has it to be GPL or may I put it under another Licence e.g. EPL? [06:41:32] 14(INVALID) Add new interwiki prefix to Wikimedia Foundation wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15360 (10raimond.spekking) [06:42:06] <_wooz> lo [06:43:14] is anyone free to look at a template for me and tell me if there is a better way to do it? it's here: http://bahaikitext.org/User:David/sandbox [06:44:00] well i guess that will have to wait [07:30:25] re [07:43:25] 03raymond * r40207 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialWatchlist.php: [07:43:25] Move information about watched pages and enotif into the fieldset too. [07:43:25] It looks much smarter now, especially on wikis with enotif enabled. [08:18:19] AaronSchulz: will it be possible with flaggedrevs to do something like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Transclude_historical_image.3F [08:18:32] 03raymond * r40208 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add extension credits and i18n file for OpenSearchXML [08:18:35] (that is, transclude old versions of images and templates) [08:19:17] {{support}} [08:21:42] maybe a sort of cascading oldid parameter... &oldid=123&timetravel=true which would take the newest revision of each image and transclusion before the date of the oldid parameter, and show it [08:22:07] (and if flagged revs can't, then maybe some core tweaks to allow this would make flagged revs lighter?) [08:23:34] hmmm... [08:24:01] How does MW determine where to store and retrieve images? [08:24:09] md5 [08:24:24] ?? [08:24:28] ms5(Wiki.png) -> bc32c4ef985f1924664e5f5c7359ef62 [08:24:35] /b/bc/Wiki.png [08:24:51] i c [08:24:56] to give them an even distribution among 256 subfolders [08:25:13] ^md5() even [08:25:20] qsheets: see FileRepo::getHashPathForLevel [08:25:21] there are several tools to help with that, like Special:Filepath [08:25:30] and it is optional, you can disable it [08:25:44] VasilievVV: i like Splarka's answer better [08:26:08] :)) [08:26:21] Splarka: i was wondering for a secured gallery that I'm making [08:26:33] if he had asked "what function determines the filepath for uploaded images?" I would have shown him that function [08:26:48] if he had asked "whut maeks da img placez?" I'd have said "magic" [08:27:08] qsheets: if anyone can guess the filename, they can guess the filepath [08:27:10] so be careful [08:27:30] lol i would've never thought of saying anything like that last quote, Splarka [08:27:35] *Splarka snickers [08:28:26] Splarka: so a multi-encryption would do me good? [08:29:02] well [08:29:08] you could just salt the filenames probably [08:29:21] md5(Wiki.png + foobar) if no one knew 'foobar' [08:29:32] true [08:29:35] however, you'd have to change that wherever the path was checked [08:29:49] and realize.. [08:29:58] it would only be 256 times harder to find a file that way [08:30:05] so it doesn't really do any good [08:30:06] lol [08:30:08] just use obscure filenames [08:30:11] or referer checkers [08:30:57] Splarka: how about md5(sha1(md5(file.png + salt))) [08:31:12] :) [08:31:17] well, still [08:31:31] if you use the same folder sectioning, eg /x/xy where xy is the first two characters.. [08:31:36] I say img_auth.php [08:31:38] you'll still only make it 256 times harder to find [08:31:47] if they know the name [08:31:50] just use obscure names [08:31:50] true [08:32:18] "Secret_plot_to_assassinate_the_president.mary_had_a_little_lamb_bc32c4ef985f1924664e5f5c7359ef62.gif [08:32:33] lol [08:33:06] /report-to-the-man Splarka [08:33:08] oops ;) [08:33:31] helllo [08:33:34] *qsheets walks away laughing [08:34:02] if(president.typeof('Obama')==true) s/-the-/-da-/ [08:34:12] if(president.typeof('McCain')==true) s/-the-/-the-old-/ [08:34:30] if(president.typeof('Clinton')==true) s/-man-/-woman-/ [08:34:42] *Splarka hides from the NSA, CIA, and FEMA [08:34:55] Splarka: the second would return the-old-old-old-old-old-... [08:35:02] CIA-6 ? :P [08:35:05] infinite recursion [08:35:09] he is quite old [08:35:13] 03tstarling * r40209 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/BagOStuff.php): * Fixed intermittent deadlock errors involving objectcache table queries. Use a separate database connection for the objectcache table to avoid long-lasting locks on that table. [08:35:24] if(president.typeof('Bill')==true) s/-the-/-the-naughty-/ [08:35:37] lmao [08:35:50] *DarkoNeko awaits for the current one's version... :) [08:36:03] if(president.typeof('Bush')==true) s/-the-/-the-dumb-/ [08:36:24] the-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-.... [08:36:35] same problem as macCain [08:37:27] if(president.typeof('HW-Bush')==true) s/-the-/-Like-the-WWF-but-for-smart-people-/ [08:37:29] depends on the language [08:37:50] *Splarka gives qsheets a shiny red frisbee to play with [08:38:23] *qsheets needs more players to play ultimate frisbee [08:38:49] 03raymond * r40210 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: typo [08:39:14] wouldn't you need infinite players for that? [08:39:55] Splarka: the last one was a quote he gave during a international HS robotics comp. championship [08:40:25] 03tstarling * r40211 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (OutputPage.php User.php): [08:40:25] * Generalised OutputPage::checkLastModified() to allow it to easily handle more than three types of modified timestamp. Added OutputPageCheckLastModified hook. [08:40:25] * Flattened out the structure of that function with early returns, to avoid ugly deep nesting. [08:40:52] have you ever played ultimate frisbee, Splarka? [08:41:29] I don't know [08:41:41] I mean, I think I have [08:41:48] but sometimes I play again and it is better than before [08:42:00] lol [08:43:30]