[00:30:00] 03aaron * r40251 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: [00:30:00] * Small performance tweak by switching check order [00:30:00] * Tweak comments [01:35:14] n8 [01:39:20] anyone know the query to find pages that are not linked to? [01:40:02] Special:Deadendpages [01:40:04] or Loney [01:40:06] lonely [01:40:08] one of those [01:40:24] Betacommand: Special:Lonelypages [01:40:28] Special:Lonelypages [01:40:29] Charitwo: I was looking for the MySQL query that creates those [01:40:32] oh [01:40:46] <_mary_kate_> Deadend is pages that don't link elsewhere [01:41:11] Im looking for Lonely page query [01:43:32] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialLonelypages.php?revision=36481&view=markup ? [02:21:29] Hi, I closed the Sitenotice , and i cant get it back for some reason, i tried purging, no help. [02:21:50] LordAnubis: clear your cookies [02:21:54] ah ffs [02:22:02] thnx Alexfusco5 :) [02:22:43] wuts the anonymous users site notice mediawiki link? [02:23:25] Anonnotice [02:26:47] thx MrZ-man|lazin [03:01:51] 03(FIXED) {{NUMBERINGROUP}} magic word - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12632 +comment (10soxred93) [03:11:44] I'm a little confused by this bugzilla: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13040 [03:12:02] It says it's been assigned to Wikibugs, but that's done anyway, [03:13:08] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_activity.cgi?id=13040 - not sure why it was changed [03:14:48] *TheLetterX works on an extension [03:25:45] is it possible to have a page with a regular TOC (not compact, etc.) and headings throughout like a typical article and then 1 heading (either (possibly requiring a class or some other attribute) or ={1,6}) which is not listed in the TOC at all? [03:26:12] uh... no? [03:26:20] not without an extension, at any rate [03:26:59] hrmm [03:29:21] *jeremyb was thinking about ways to express the sidebar at the top of [[User:Elonka/Questions]] with semantic markup (and ideally have the generated html markup be semantically correct too) [03:31:02] the best i could think of to describe "Related discussions" would be a heading and I was thinking it would be confusing, unnecessary, and/or otherwise bad for it to appear in the TOC [04:43:06] mew [04:43:47] is it hard to replace the login part of media wiki? [05:30:10] 03aaron * r40252 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.class.php flaggedrevs.js): [05:30:10] * Tweak feedback JS to lock/unlock submit [05:30:10] * More performance tweaks [05:30:10] * Remove unused var [05:46:05] f00li5h: how do you mean? you know it's php not perl right? :-P [05:46:11] *jeremyb points f00li5h to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Authentication_and_login [06:01:17] coding php makes me furious, but i can manage it [06:03:19] it looks like these methods will just create a user based on what an external source says, right? [06:05:18] f00li5h: my cursory reading of http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin says that is optional [06:08:39] /afk [06:15:21] f00li5h: that's how an AuthPlugin works. [06:15:39] so that always happens? [06:16:07] MediaWiki needs a user-id for every logged-in user. [06:16:14] It's needed for stuff like blocks, logging, etc. [06:16:44] can i have my own user object? [06:16:57] that comes totally from an external source? [06:17:31] f00li5h: Describe the goal, not the step. [06:17:37] f00li5h: what are you trying to achieve? [06:19:07] i'm trying to figure out what options i have for a single sign on [06:19:28] i control the webserver, my applications will all be on the same server (welll, same url anyway) [06:19:51] f00li5h: The AuthPlugin framework allows you to override the local settings for password, email address and real name. [06:20:01] It should be sufficient for your needs. [06:21:07] is not creating users going to be an issue (say for diffs and logs)? [06:21:28] yes, but the AuthPlugin framework does the creation for you. [06:22:26] i see [06:23:34] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin [06:23:39] actually, it seems to be optional. [06:25:19] * If you don't automatically create accounts, you must still create [06:25:19] * accounts in some way. It's not possible to authenticate without [06:25:20] * a local account. [06:25:42] haha, your client did silly things [06:26:02] like what? [06:26:10] sounds like there are too many points of control on the authentication system there ;0 [06:26:18] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/AuthPlugin.php?view=markup [06:26:21] http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classAuthPlugin.html [06:26:23] Werdna: like adding extra whitespace/stars [06:27:08] f00li5h: I copy-and-pasted from the source. [06:27:26] and it was a comment for doxygen, so it had stars at the start of each line, and whitespace. [06:31:08] i see [06:45:35] I want a template to perform like this: {{{1|}}}
{{{2|}}}
but ignore the
if 1 is not used to ignore the corresponding
. Is this possible? [06:45:47] I can't figure out what kind of #if statement would do this [06:46:22] {{#if:{{{1|}}}|{{{1}}}
}}{{#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}
}} [06:46:30] ahh awesome [06:46:32] thanks so much :D [06:46:45] or insert two line breaks between {{{1}}} and }} [06:46:52] (instead of
) [06:47:08] thank you :D [07:02:35] adminsettings [07:02:40] !adminsettings [07:02:40] --mwbot-- AdminSettings.php is an additional configuration file for use with command line maintenance scripts. See AdminSettings.sample in your installation directory for details. [07:02:45] !adminsettings | balasyum [07:02:45] --mwbot-- balasyum: AdminSettings.php is an additional configuration file for use with command line maintenance scripts. See AdminSettings.sample in your installation directory for details. [07:37:25] hello [08:04:19] hi. i'm afraid i need some basic help with my install of mediawiki 1.13. the setup chokes with "No database connection". i do have postgresql running, i have created the database, the specific user exists and i'm obviously missing something. help much appreciated [08:04:53] is there more detail? [08:05:03] Werdna: like? [08:05:22] wolfgang_: well, is that the only output? [08:05:23] 03(FIXED) Monobook bullets are black instead of cyan in MSIE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13368 +comment (10hashar) [08:05:40] trust me or not, I am actually using IE 8 ! [08:05:45] wolfgang_: Did you install the PHP pgsql extension of compile PHP with pgsql support? [08:06:00] *or [08:06:36] werdna: "# Attempting to connect to database "mwtestdb" as "tina"... error: No database connection [08:06:38] # Checking the version of Postgres... Warning: pg_query(): supplied argument is not a valid PostgreSQL link resource in /srv/www/htdocs/mw/includes/db/DatabasePostgres.php on line 551 Warning: pg_fetch_result(): supplied argument is not a valid PostgreSQL result resource in /srv/www/htdocs/mw/includes/db/DatabasePostgres.php on line 1042 Could not determine the numeric version from !" [08:06:57] but via psql i can connect [08:07:08] What version of pgsql do you have? [08:07:35] postgresql-8.3.1-15.1 [08:08:03] need to check for the php pgsql extension ... [08:08:53] php5-pgsql 5.2.6 [08:09:17] 03(FIXED) Monobook user links icon broken in MSIE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13369 +comment (10hashar) [08:11:27] 03(FIXED) Standard, Nostalgia skins show border on the site logo in MSIE 8 beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13367 +comment (10hashar) [08:13:02] 03(FIXED) Cologne Blue styles fail in MSIE 8 beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13366 +comment (10hashar) [08:14:05] 03(FIXED) Some check box labels are missing first character in MSIE 8 beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13365 +comment (10hashar) [08:19:02] hi there [08:19:27] wanted to know if someone can explain me the mediawiki function architecture ? i need it for my thesis [08:19:38] hashar: geez, what happened, did Microsoft spill beer on the dev servers and fix everything? [08:19:57] 03(mod) Misaligned form fields in MSIE 8 beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13362 (10hashar) [08:20:14] 03(mod) Misaligned form fields in MSIE 8 beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13362 +comment (10hashar) [08:21:21] Splarka> they eventually fixed their rendering engine :) [08:21:44] there is still some bugs in it, but overall it looks fine. I should try disabling our various IE fixes [08:22:14] terico> what do you mean by "function architecture?" we use classes and an autoloader. [08:22:48] they are mostly version specific [08:22:48] hmm, is there an IE8 fixes yet? [08:23:54] *wolfgang_ holds breath .. [08:24:22] so i need to know in which architecture components mediawiki is build up ? i�m doing a system analyse for a company wiki and have to explain the architecture and the functions of the software (or better the structure of the wiki) to compare it with the cms of the company [08:24:55] so the functions are no problem but the functional structure is difficult [08:25:26] spaghetti [08:25:36] Splarka> there is none, i though the latest was like: if gte IE 7 [08:26:07] *Splarka nods [08:26:22] so except the .js there shouldn't be any effect [08:26:33] yup [08:27:33] can noone give me a hint or an adress where i can find out what the structure of mediawiki is like ? [08:28:05] I don't understand your question terico :( [08:28:15] structure? [08:28:39] sry its hard to explain in english im german [08:28:47] wait a mom i try to translate [08:28:59] view the source? svn.wikimedia.org ? [08:29:13] (full history of changes available too) [08:29:51] terico, take your time. I am french myself <:o) [08:30:24] there is some documentation in the 'docs' directory : http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/docs/ [08:30:29] specialy "design.txt" [08:31:33] the database map is at : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout :) [08:31:38] so : i should make an analys of the system construction (which parts does it contain) an then examine the different functions [08:32:03] but i can�t get any real information about the wiki construction, architecture [08:33:26] how do you make tables? [08:33:42] cheat code :) [08:33:55] lol [08:33:56] >.< [08:34:14] seriously, though, how do I add it to the toolbar? [08:35:58] have a look at our manual : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables [08:36:00] Meeso: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js/edit.js [08:36:18] so nobody has a hint ? [08:36:39] I still dont get it and there is no german around to help us :( [08:37:28] terico, do you want the MediaWiki code? [08:38:07] I am the admin for the wiki, and I want to change my name... how do I do this? [08:38:08] terico: the database/table structure of storage, the function spaghetti that keeps bouncing between php files? the on-wiki structure of template/transclusion/parserfunctions? [08:39:18] 03(mod) action=upload should be added to the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15227 +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [08:39:33] I am the admin for the wiki, and I want to change my name... how do I do this? [08:40:19] 03(mod) action=upload should be added to the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15227 +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [08:47:40] Meeso> you need an extension : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Renameuser [08:48:48] i dont mean the technical part like database and server [08:49:30] splarka: what do u mean with "on-wiki structure" ?? [08:49:38] *Werdna glares at ialex [08:50:51] terico: like the way templates work and interact [08:53:12] because every wiki is only based on different pages which provide special functions it might be the best way to explain how the wiki pages are structured... like one area to show articles, one to edit them, one to discus about changes, one to track changes and one to set up the wiki (like specialpages in any case) do u think that this might be a way to structure the wiki ? [08:54:33] hmm... [08:55:04] well, mediawiki is based on basically.. Special: pages with generated/meta content, and user generated content [08:55:42] extensions generally add: more special pages, or special tags/extensions/hooks to enhance user generated content [08:56:19] user created page content usually means articles, but also discussions, images, templates, categories, and interface config/translations.. [08:56:27] that sorta thing? [08:56:53] yeah... now we come closer to a structure i can relay to ;) [08:57:24] so, you mean the user interface, sorta [08:57:31] and for the case of the company i can explain the different pages the wiki of them contains [08:57:46] mm... [08:57:55] then there are 3 basic.. things... [08:58:01] namespaces, actions, and special pages... [08:58:03] yeah in some case... its pretty difficault cause i cant explain it as easy as an cms [08:58:22] namespaces are like, article, discussion, image, category, mediawiki, etc [08:58:29] and the actions are functionsin some way or anything completly different ? [08:58:46] actions are like edit, history, protect, diff (and some Special: pages perform actions) [08:59:07] for special pages: like what for example ? [08:59:23] special pages do almost anything, but the two main types are: action (movepage, block, change rights), and list (wantedpages, orphanedpages, listusers, etc) [08:59:55] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:SpecialPages is a general list [09:00:02] (each wiki has that list) [09:00:32] I am not sure what you mean by functions [09:00:39] functions are much deeper in the software [09:00:54] or, much more shallow (parserfunctions) [09:01:10] so that u understand the problem: first i analysed the cms of the company and its structure (content repository, front-end, back-end) now i need to analyse the structure of the mediawiki they use but i can�t perform the same way for the wiki cause i.e. no back-end exists [09:01:44] the mediawiki backend is pretty much a shell for whatever you wanna create [09:01:59] no i don�t really mean functions in technical way... more like what functions does the wiki support wo edit a page or to track a change [09:02:06] an encyclopedia, a forum, an interactive book, etc [09:03:08] but u can�t really seperate a front and a back-end (like: front->show the articles & back->edit, create and manage content) [09:04:03] that's because a wiki is not a cms :) [09:04:04] right, on a wiki they aren't much different (unless anon editing is disabled) [09:04:24] right: type !cms ^_^ [09:04:31] !cms [09:04:31] --mwbot-- Wikis are designed for openness, to be readable and editable by all. If you want a forum, a blog, a web authoring toolkit or corporate content management system, perhaps don't use wiki software. There is a nice overview of free tools available at including the possibility to try each system. For was to restrict access in MediaWiki, see !access. [09:04:39] ohh [09:04:45] mediawiki is designed on the easy temptation of interaction [09:05:09] some things are "back end", editing localsettings.php to configure things like the content language, or whether files can be uploaded... [09:07:05] i know what wikis are made for and that an sysop can configure the wiki hardcoded in the "back-end" but it is not helpfull for my thesis [09:08:07] cause the main aspect is the structure the different people can use and not everyone in a company is an admin and has the right to change the wiki in its deepest part [09:08:33] well, there are levels [09:09:21] you can change for example which page is the main page as an on-wiki sysop (which should not be confused with a server op, a sysop is basically a person who bans/deletes/protects pages), or what the 'edit' button says in each language... [09:09:35] see: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain for things only changable by shell access [09:09:36] *Lady_Aleena sets out cookies and milk for the tireless programmers with no strings this morning. [09:10:59] ok. i�ll have a look and if it doesn�t help me out i�ll be back (damn arnold ;) ) and ask around once more [09:11:04] thx a lot so far [09:14:53] <_wooz> lo [09:47:28] Lady_Aleena: ^_^ those cookies also for those doing drupal theming? [09:47:59] drupal theming? [09:50:51] I'm converting a WordPress template into a Drupal theme... [10:09:45] 03(mod) Hitting 'enter' in Special:Search fields does a 'go' search instead of fulltext in Internet Exporer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13778 +comment (10hashar) [10:12:58] 03shinjiman * r40253 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Old/Late Time Chinese [10:16:04] 03shinjiman * r40254 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Update the Chinese conversion tables [10:29:53] 03siebrand * r40255 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (51 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-08-30 12:18 CEST) [10:33:49] Why would you convert a WordPress template? And I guess I will have to look up Drupal. [10:36:31] Dantman, looked up Drupal and still in the dark. All I can tell is that it is some sort of software. [10:36:51] Drupal is a CMS [10:37:08] Seams fairly popular for website building [10:37:19] Okay, CMS is? [10:37:28] Content Management System [10:37:36] I still write my website in HTML with CSS and a little SSI. [10:37:41] heh [10:38:15] Well, I have to be conservative. I only have 10Mb of space. [10:39:21] Plus no ASP, PHP, mySQL, or any other goodie. I can use Perl and javascript, but both are too confusing to learn since there are no hard and fast rules. [10:46:11] 03siebrand * r40256 10/trunk/extensions/ (123 files in 96 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-08-30 12:18 CEST) [10:47:08] 03(mod) alphabetical order method for DynamicPageList - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14971 (10powerpdn) [10:51:06] 03(mod) alphabetical order method for DynamicPageList - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14971 (10raffaelemac) [11:00:22] 03(mod) alphabetical order method for DynamicPageList - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14971 (10powerpdn) [11:04:19] 03(mod) Enable alias "WP:" -> "Wikipedia:" for italian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15116 (10powerpdn) [11:16:16] uh [11:16:24] it constantly amuses me what people do [11:20:14] 03(mod) Parser function on Korean Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13712 (10camway) [11:22:29] 14(INVALID) rendering in lynx - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8057 +comment (10hashar) [11:26:55] 14(WFM) link landmine on every page if images not loaded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9714 +comment (10hashar) [11:47:43] 03(NEW) Some edits have exclamation marks in watchlist, some don't - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15382 minor; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken) [11:48:40] 03(NEW) Please set up wiki for Wikimedia Norge - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15383 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (jhsoby) [11:48:51] 03(FIXED) populateCategory.php script does not work under PostgreSQL ( corrupted results) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15367 +comment (10jsabater) [11:52:04] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on Russian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 15enhancement->normal; normal->highest; +comment (10ferrer11) [12:04:12] 03(mod) ifexist function creating wantedpages noise - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12019 (10mediawiki) [12:59:57] hi, i'm back to fiddling with a mediawiki setup. from the shell i can connect to postgresql with "psql -U mwtest -d mwtestdb". but the setup fails with "Attempting to connect to database "mwtestdb" as "mwtest"... error: No database connection". why is that? [13:02:27] T_T Agh... why is it that occationally I bump into a open source web graphic site that someone else has pointed out, but whenever I try to search for free open source web graphics I come up with absolute crap, and find no bookmarked sites when I could have sword I had already bookmarked a few [13:03:09] Dantman: parallel worlds, i'm pretty sure [13:03:16] heh [13:16:03] god, i'm stuck with this. the mediawiki setup cannot connect to the database and i have so very much not a clue .. [13:19:05] 03(mod) Please set up wiki for Wikimedia Norge - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15383 (10jhsoby) [13:33:15] TimStarling: I'm finally sitting down to do a class extension for repo namespace protection (probably NSRepo). After spending a few hours looking at filerepo, was wondering is there any rudimentary documentation on LocalRepo, ForeignDBRepo, FSRepo and ForeignAPIRepo and how they are differentiated? If not, I make take a shot at it as I do the development. [13:33:20] 03shinjiman * r40257 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/parser/Parser.php): [13:33:20] * Added support of piped wikilinks using double-width brackets [13:33:20] patch by PhiLiP [13:34:46] hmm? [13:37:21] does anyone know what the fix _was_ for http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk/Sections/Installation#MediaWiki_does_not_install_with_PostgreSQL_8.3.0 ? it mentions a fix ... [13:38:28] oh dear, sorry, the fix is right there. still i have the database and the user and still the connection fails [13:40:01] wolfgang__: fails with what messages? link? [13:40:04] it works from the shell, though. i tried, too, with / without set passwords etc. [13:40:39] wolfgang__: shot in the dark, but always a goody: for mysql, "localhost" ist not the same as 127.0.0.1 [13:40:53] Duesentrieb: postgresql here [13:41:07] oh. absolutly clueless then :) [13:41:13] nice one, though :) [13:43:09] anybody know anything about LiquidThreads? [13:43:20] perhaps [13:43:51] MinuteElectron: how do I mark a page as a discussion page, and therefore one that should have threaded discussion on it? [13:44:26] you don't, all pages in the Thread: namespace are trested as such automatically though [13:44:33] *treated [13:44:41] same as in any *talk* namespace. [13:45:57] Mmmm... point based NS system... [13:46:17] 2:User, 2.1:User talk [13:46:55] bah... oh right, ints in the db [13:47:48] Duesentrieb: you know the story about the ueber-annoying hax0r on irc that was bragging about his latest script weapon and threatening people all over the place? and then someone said "good thing hax0r doesn't know my ip is 127.0.0.1 ..." [13:48:17] yea... oldy but goldy :) [13:49:00] hello, what if the message MediaWiki:Double-redirect-fixer is changed, will the user be newly registered? [13:49:50] geimfyglid: i think so yes. iirc, it checks if the user exists, and if not, it creates it [13:50:00] :S [13:50:23] so if the user was registered before the translation of the message was made the user will always have the wrong name [13:51:39] geimfyglid: you could rename the user. but you'd have to make sure no redirects get fixed between editing MediaWiki:Double-redirect-fixer and renaming the user [13:51:46] !renameuser [13:51:46] --mwbot-- Renameuser provides a special page which allows authorised users to rename user accounts. See < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Renameuser > for more details. [13:52:21] readonly-mode is not an option, because that would prevent you from renaming the user too [13:52:23] erf, very complicated, well, let the bot be in English then... [13:54:27] thanks for the help [13:55:55] hello [13:57:56] hi geimfyglid [13:58:20] hi Werdna [13:58:34] Is it possible to have all links uses a namespace in a page? [13:58:56] For example [[foo]] default to [[Bar:Foo]] [14:05:30] *Duesentrieb poketh Werdna [14:05:49] yes, Duesentrieb [14:06:09] Werdna: pm [14:44:35] I need some help in troubleshooting blank wiki pages [14:55:32] !blankpage | jaydeearm [14:55:32] --mwbot-- jaydeearm: A blank page usually indicates a fatal PHP error. See !error [14:55:36] !ask | jaydeearm [14:55:36] --mwbot-- jaydeearm: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [15:26:44] TimStarling you around? [15:27:12] TimStarling how hard would it be to start a www.wikimania.org site? [15:29:12] White_Cat: and not have them for individual years? [15:29:26] I was thinking of [15:29:31] 2008.wikimania.org [15:29:38] rather than [15:29:45] 2008wikimania.wikimedia.org [15:29:58] you mean wikimania2008.etc [15:30:02] right [15:30:08] would look nicer [15:30:33] it would be nicer [15:30:44] wikimanias arent directly tied to the foundation [15:31:25] merging them to one wiki is what I would really want to do [15:31:31] but it doesnt seem like there is consensus for it [15:31:48] yes [15:31:51] *yet [15:32:29] jeremyb WMF owns wikimania.org I assume [15:32:40] White_Cat: simple to find out... [15:33:03] or not... [15:33:32] hahaha [15:34:00] `whois google.com` yields all these spammy variants [15:34:09] GOOGLE.COM.ZZZZZ.DOWNLOAD.MOVIE.ONLINE.ZML2.COM [15:34:15] well [15:34:50] GoDaddy Inc. states [15:34:58] http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=wikimania.com&prog_id=godaddy [15:34:58] 03(mod) Add "dumpHTML" as "component" for the product " MediaWiki extensions" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15265 (10emmanuel) [15:35:25] a Johannes Kroymann Stargarder Str. 67 Berlin 10437 Germany [15:35:36] Who the hell is he? [15:35:52] Registry Status: clientDeleteProhibited [15:35:53] Registry Status: clientRenewProhibited [15:35:53] Registry Status: clientTransferProhibited [15:35:53] Registry Status: clientUpdateProhibited [15:35:58] that may be a problem [15:36:41] White_Cat: wikimania.com not wikimania.org? [15:36:46] same registrant though [15:36:49] oh [15:37:04] .org [15:37:27] Someone was doing us a favor it seems [15:37:48] I'll ask in the german channel [15:39:10] 03mark * r40258 10/trunk/pybal/pybal/pybal.py: Make presence of the twisted bgp module not required [16:04:52] 03(mod) Create a web interface for adding wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13626 (10manticore.wikia) [16:05:57] hey, my wiki is backed up at the db, but i dunno how to extract the data without the site. i can�t install another wiki, don�t have a host for it. anyone knows how i can get the data? [16:06:42] backed up?? [16:07:00] 03(mod) Please set up wiki for Wikimedia Norge - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15383 (10jhsoby) [16:07:01] like the data is saved on the mysql server [16:07:23] well it always is :o [16:07:38] well, i have it there and i dunno how to extract it [16:08:01] !backup [16:08:01] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki [16:08:21] i don�t need to back up... i need to extract it... [16:08:46] Nikerabbit: as far as I understood, he has DB left and wantto set up MW again to extract data. NaNgets: right? [16:09:08] i can�t set MW again, but i need to extract the data... is it possible? [16:09:21] well, how is he supposed to extract it if he cannot install mediawiki? [16:09:51] that�s why i�m asking, if there are any programs that can do that etc... [16:10:11] NaNgets: you need to be more precise what do you mean with extracting [16:10:59] from what i saw, the data is stored as blobs in the mysql server, and its hard for me to extract it using a mysql query browser, since there�s seems to be an encoding or something. [16:11:20] is it possible, with a prog or something, to extract that data to .txt files etc...? [16:11:47] 03(mod) Create a web interface for adding wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13626 (10redwwjd) [16:13:27] guess not... i�ll try getting a host to store a temp mw.. [16:13:29] thanks anyways.. [16:14:48] 03(mod) Aliasing does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15378 (10dasch_87) [16:21:47] !accounts [16:21:47] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "accounts". You might try: !centralauth !renameuser !userapproval [16:22:18] !userapproval [16:22:18] --mwbot-- To require approval before accounts can edit, see . Alternatively, remove edit rights from all users, and create a new user group like "approved" with edit rights; a bureaucrat can then assign users to the "approved" group to allow them to edit. For more information about the alternative, see how can i list existing mediawiki accounts? [16:33:21] wolfgang__: Special:Listusers [16:33:41] thank you :) [16:53:29] are file uploads broken in svn head? [17:00:53] 14(INVALID) Some edits have exclamation marks in watchlist, some don't - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15382 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [17:06:08] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on Russian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 highest->normal; +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [17:13:37] can someone explain the difference: Special:Listusers has 33 users, Special:Statistics says "There are 222 registered users ..." this is on a site which is currently taking heavy spam [17:15:43] hello all [17:20:14] We have today "The 4th Arabic Wikipedia Day" , and we need do statistics about the contributions of the editors. is there any good way to do that ? [17:20:31] wolfgang__: are you looking at only one user group? [17:21:15] cirwin: no, all [17:21:23] no idea then [17:25:16] 03(NEW) Page history: After jumping to a month/year, "newer" and " older" links don't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15384 normal; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (abodeman) [17:25:54] Bassem_JARKAS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_edit_counters [17:32:12] sorry to repeat myself, but can anyone with SVN head upload files? [17:47:59] 03siebrand * r40259 10/trunk/extensions/ (86 files in 72 dirs): [17:47:59] Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-08-30 12:18 CEST) [17:47:59] * rebuild of all files [17:48:23] cirwin, can i use mediawiki api for that ? [17:48:38] Bassem_JARKAS: probably [17:48:55] maybe using a generator of users... [17:48:57] not sure though [17:54:22] 03siebrand * r40260 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (27 files): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-08-30 19:05 CEST) [18:04:12] 03siebrand * r40261 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Update RELEASE-NOTES with added languages [18:24:13] 03siebrand * r40262 10/branches/REL1_12/phase3/languages/messages/ (249 files): Backporting compatible messates to 1.12 [18:25:24] 03siebrand * r40263 10/branches/REL1_13/phase3/languages/messages/ (128 files): Backporting compatible messages to 1.13 [18:38:34] How do you create a hyperlink to somewhere on the same page? Like another section (marked by == and in the index) [18:40:24] [[#anchor]] [18:40:37] ie: For == Header == [18:40:46] You write [[#Header]] [18:40:50] Ah OK. [18:41:03] What if the header consists of more than one word and therefore spaces? [18:41:08] Can I include those spaces? [18:41:13] or am I defining headers wrong? [18:41:15] Yes, it's automatically converted [18:41:21] or perhaps missing a name or tag from the header? [18:41:26] Ah OK, cheers mate. [18:42:19] Dantman|afk: What about a name? It shows as "#Hiding your Hostname"? [18:42:41] use the display text to hide that [18:44:28] I'm with ya, cheers. [19:15:24] 03(mod) No new Filters in Subcategories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13375 (10dasch_87) [19:28:42] 03(NEW) {{PAGENAME}} etc does not get affected by {{DISPLAYTITLE: nn}} - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15385 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (herman) [19:57:35] hello [19:57:44] I try to get latex working inside my pages [19:58:03] I installed everything but I keep getting Failed to parse (PNG conversion failed; check for correct installation of latex, dvips, gs, and convert) [19:58:18] I checked everything on the doc page, how can I get more debugging information? [19:59:55] 03(mod) {{PAGENAME}} etc does not get affected by {{DISPLAYTITLE:nn}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15385 (10maxsem.wiki) [20:00:05] KU0N: have you read the readme file? [20:00:36] KU0N: it tells you how to uncomment a file to see what's actually called. you can then try to issue that command directly, from the shell or from a small php script [20:02:45] hi To create a new article from an extension special page, all i need is...? [20:03:00] Duesentrieb: Yea I read it, the Example works fine [20:03:08] $a = new Article("title"); [20:03:19] $a->doEdit(....) [20:03:22] KU0N: what example? and how does it work fine? [20:03:23] ?? [20:03:35] KU0N: also, have you enabled full error reporting in php? [20:04:19] Duesentrieb: the example in the README [20:06:25] if I run the generated command from a shell it works [20:07:37] I suspect it might be a PATH problem for php, but somehow I can't change it [20:07:52] I even tried putenv('PATH...'); in LocalSettings [20:08:40] KU0N: so make a php script that does nothing but run that and returns the output. &1"); ?> [20:08:57] call that from the browser and see what happens [20:09:04] (replace "whatevercommand" of course) [20:11:10] yea it's a path problem [20:11:13] latex not found [20:14:30] yea it's a path problem, I figured it out, it was silly [20:14:35] thanks a lot for the help [20:16:15] KU0N: np. [20:16:37] G'day. I've been looking through Wikipedia to see whether they've got the wikicode there, but is it possible for a template to 'know' which page it's being included in? eg {{template}} used on [[Jimbob]] could say "Hello you are reading Jimbob" [20:18:10] makat: yes - {{PAGENAME}} will be the name of the page it's being uncluded in (also {{FULLPAGENAME}}, {{PAGENAMEE}}, etc). [20:19:16] Thanks very much Duesentrieb. [20:23:36] 03(WONTFIX) {{PAGENAME}} etc does not get affected by {{DISPLAYTITLE:nn}} - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15385 +comment (10herman) [20:54:36] i'm trying to use the mediawiki api http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API to get the text of a page in my wiki. [20:55:00] joe-coder: the simplest way is without the api: use action=raw [20:55:08] thanks [20:55:11] if you need meta-info, the api is the way to go though [20:55:50] i've already found several useful calls there for other things i need. [20:56:33] raw isn't what i needed. i wanted it rendered to html [20:57:28] a couple years ago i hooked into the mediawiki code to retrieve it for my site, but my host updated to php5 which broke mediawiki and my hooks. [20:57:48] php4 is getting close to the end of its life, so i can't really complain about their decision [20:58:39] you want action=render then [20:58:53] don't know if the api has that too, yet. but i think it does. [20:58:53] yes, thank you [20:59:08] didn't see it, but i only searched for about 10 minutes. [20:59:25] in general, the api is certainly a wonderful addition [20:59:54] I was called? [20:59:59] :P [21:00:04] i was expecting to have to have to to do http requests and parse out what i needed via regex. [21:00:12] joe-coder: ask Bryan, he'S the api master [21:00:28] i think i've got it now though [21:00:29] joe-coder: http yea. html no :) [21:00:43] i was just saying how thankful i was for the api [21:00:47] joe-coder: bah, i got him here just for you :P [21:01:04] Bryan: can you get renjdered html from the api? [21:01:10] action=render [21:01:12] that worked. [21:01:13] yes, action=render [21:01:38] well, I can't answer complicated questions anyway [21:01:42] my keyboard is broken [21:01:47] Bryan: well duh :) i was thinking of the api proper. it also has a way to fetch raw text, no? alternative to action=raw? [21:01:51] and requires me to press every key twice [21:01:55] no [21:02:00] ugh :/ [21:02:02] all stuff is formatted [21:02:25] ARGH [21:02:36] checking batterie br [21:02:38] b [21:02:40] Duesentrieb: I added format=raw, but brion reverted it [21:02:52] i'm not talking about the format [21:03:07] i'm asking if i can get the raw text as a property, wrapped in json or xml or whatever [21:03:14] same for rendered text [21:03:20] oh yes [21:03:32] like prop=text or something [21:03:36] prop=revision&rvprop=rvcontent [21:03:39] argh [21:03:42] ah, i see. [21:03:45] prop=revision&rvprop=content [21:03:50] but not for rendered? [21:04:27] is there something that action=render can't ? [21:04:53] well, for one thing, if you need meta data too, it's good to fetch everything in one go [21:05:03] also... does action=render work for old revisions? [21:05:07] never tried [21:05:31] but... hm... wasn't there a way to have the wiki render *any* text you throw at it, and return the result? [21:06:01] action=render can work on a title or on wikitextr [21:06:49] oh? from a post? didn't know that... [21:07:05] you can even do old revs apparently [21:07:15] neat [21:07:34] hm... wasn't there an ajax preview at some point? [21:07:39] and there is a prop thingie as well [21:07:46] Duesentrieb: $wgLivePreview [21:07:53] the api surprises me everyday [21:08:11] VasilievVV: right. that would probably use action=render with posted text [21:08:17] Bryan: what prop thingy? [21:08:36] you can get properties along with action=parse [21:08:40] Duesentrieb: it better use existing AJAX framework [21:08:43] templatelinks, etc [21:09:17] VasilievVV: that doesn't support POST, iirc. and is generally a bit sucky around the edges. [21:09:27] Bryan: and of course sections. Adding them was the only time in my life, when I touched parser [21:10:18] Bryan: ach, api has a parse action, asp oppose to index.php's render action. ic [21:11:25] Duesentrieb: it was initally called action=render, but then I renamed it to action=parse to reflect its nature [21:11:50] in mw, there's no difference between the two (sadly) [21:26:51] 03ashley * r40264 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserProfile/UserProfile.i18n.php: add a few new messages (currently unused, will be used in 1.2 release) and fix spacing, tired of getting my working copy in a conflicted state due to these [21:53:31] [30-Aug-2008 17:50:00] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: file in /home/www/html/w/includes/UploadFromBase.php on line 216 [21:53:31] [30-Aug-2008 17:50:00] PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function exists() on a non-object in /home/www/html/w/includes/UploadFromBase.php on line 216 [21:54:10] will check [21:54:21] thanks [21:55:58] svn up and try again [21:56:03] 03btongminh * r40265 10/trunk/phase3/includes/UploadFromBase.php: $this->mLocalFile; not $file [21:57:26] ok [21:57:29] that fixes that [21:57:30] but... [21:57:32] [30-Aug-2008 22:56:42] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: sk in /home/www/html/w/includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php on line 532 [21:57:32] [30-Aug-2008 22:56:42] PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function makeKnownLinkObj() on a non-object in /home/www/html/w/includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php on line 532 [21:58:38] hm I should have tested all code path [21:58:40] s [21:58:48] no worries [21:59:26] I think it's only when uploading a replacement [22:08:13] 03btongminh * r40266 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (UploadFromBase.php specials/SpecialUpload.php): Fix a few undeclared variables in upload warning code. [22:09:49] yay! [22:09:51] thank you very much [22:17:41] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on Russian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 (10ferrer11) [22:18:51] Would it be possible to use an integer as a variable in a template and then increment it to link to the next in a series? [22:20:02] not by default [22:20:11] though you might be able to find an extension that will let you [22:21:16] Hrrm... [22:22:07] isforinsects1: http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Autoincrement/ [22:24:16] download that file, create a sub-directory in your wiki's /extensions directory, and then put the file there. Then, put require_once("$IP/extensions/Autoincrement/Autoincrement.php"); near the end of your LocalSettings.php file [22:24:26] *isforinsects1 checks [22:24:48] the extension page itself is a bit lacking in terms of documentation [22:24:49] Not a lot of documentation on the wiki page. [22:25:13] Right, I'm hesitant to roll it out on a production wiki. [22:25:19] it works fine [22:25:22] I use it on my own wiki [22:26:22] basically you just put {{AUTOINCREMENT}} on the page where you want the number to appear. It starts at 1 and works its way up from there [22:26:39] That's not what I need. [22:27:00] then what do you need? [22:27:25] like, provide an example [22:27:31] Lemme show you [22:28:19] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Changelog_757 [22:28:33] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Template:Changelog [22:28:57] ah [22:29:02] you can just use ParserFunctions for that [22:29:10] not quite [22:29:15] you'd need string functions too [22:29:17] sure you can... [22:29:31] to get the revision number from {{PAGETITLE}} [22:29:47] Changelog: From build {{{1}}} to build {{#expr:{{{1}}} + 1}} [22:31:15] well, yeah. StringFunctions would make it fully automated, but then you can't call the template from a page that doesn't follow the format "Changelog #" [22:31:34] true [22:31:39] suppose it depends on what is wanted [22:32:31] isforinsects1: how automated do you want the template? Do you want to just be able to type {{Changelog}} and both numbers are generated automatically, or are you fine with specifying {{Changelog|756}} and the second number being generated automatically? [22:34:16] Sweet :) [22:34:23] which one? [22:34:30] {{Changelog|765}} is all that I wanted [22:34:40] I *just* found the documentation on #expr: [22:34:46] yeah, then just install ParserFunctions and use #expr :) [22:35:05] If you want it to be totally automated (e.g. just {{Changelog}}), you'll need StringFunctions as well [22:36:54] I don't need that [22:36:58] ok [22:43:11] Skizzerz, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Template:Changelog ? [22:43:13] Error [22:43:29] isforinsects1: yes, that is to be expected [22:43:35] it will work fine when you actually use it though [22:43:50] Ooooh, duh, since I didn't pass it {{{1}}} duh duh duh [22:43:56] thanks *blush* [22:44:14] You can specify a default value for {{{1}}} to prevent that error from ocurring on the template page itself (e.g. {{{1|1}}} [22:50:37] 03(mod) A generalized conversion engine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15161 (10robinp.1273) [22:50:57] hello, how can I delete all edits after a certain time point in my wiki? [22:51:26] using SQL on the database [22:51:30] spammed? [22:53:11] yes, spammed [22:53:17] bad luck :( [22:53:23] do you know an sql line for this? [22:53:28] no [22:55:58] it would be horribly complicated [22:56:23] How can I define a term with a colon int i? ;Foo:bar doesn't work [22:57:03] i wonder why this isn't implemented into MW yet, it would be useful for any spammend wiki [22:59:43] Jorges: were the spammers all the same IP address/username? [23:00:48] Skizzerz: that would be too easy :) http://www.stud.uni-potsdam.de/~linguistik/wiki/index.php/Spezial:Recentchanges [23:01:24] each of them made about 50 edits each though [23:01:28] they only editted three pages though? [23:01:30] you could install the Nuke extension [23:01:39] 4 [23:01:45] you can just revert those pages [23:02:59] but first I suggest you install a captcha to stop them - or turn off anonymouse page editting [23:04:09] youre right, its really only a few pages [23:04:16] captcha will come for sure [23:04:33] reCAPTCHA is very good :) [23:05:02] I hate spam:( [23:05:14] i think everyone does [23:05:17] Anyhow, my question my sound silly, but how can I have a colon in a definition? [23:05:23] I wish I could strange the people who write those bots [23:05:26] *l [23:05:27] yea [23:05:34] KU0N: definition? [23:05:41] are you using an extension? [23:05:46] ;bla [23:05:47] :foo [23:05:49] :foo2 [23:05:51] ... [23:05:58] I want bla to contain a colon [23:06:04] no it's regular mediawiki [23:06:04] the page title? [23:06:39] nono, just the defined word [23:07:03] can you give me a link, I don't have a clue what your are talking abotu :( [23:07:42] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:List [23:07:53] search Definition lists [23:07:54] on the page [23:08:47] oh! [23:09:02] And one of my defined word contains a colon [23:10:05] use : instead of : [23:10:49] or maybe just define a template {{colon}} that returns : [23:11:35] : is a nice trick, I should have thought of that. [23:12:48] thanks [23:13:19] Btw, is it possible to define a default namespace for all link on a page? [23:13:41] no [23:13:42] for example [[float]] will do [[API:float|float]] ? [23:13:43] Not without an extension [23:13:56] that'd be a nice extension [23:14:02] although that may change in v1.14 or v1.15 [23:14:18] now I do [[API:float|]] which works fine, but a bit of a hassle [23:14:23] whenever I manage to finish coding Special:Namespaces [23:15:40] KU0N: on Wiktionary we have a namespace called Wikisaurus, that is really a pain :) [23:16:46] I can imagine [23:21:42] I just enabled latex equation in my wiki, works great [23:21:59] but is it possible to have complete latex context? I'm interested in using pgf [23:22:15] KU0N: have a look at wikisophia [23:22:20] they do some pretty cool stuff [23:22:32] so maybe you can see how they do it [23:22:47] I'll have a look [23:22:52] but pgf is really nice [23:22:52] http://www.fauskes.net/pgftikzexamples/ [23:22:59] it can do great things, I love it:P [23:24:11] wow [23:24:13] that is cool [23:24:37] And the other good thingis that it creates super lightweight PDF [23:24:53] I have a 80 page PDF with nearly 1 figure on each page, it weight 800ko [23:24:55] yeah, vector images [23:25:01] nice!! [23:25:22] but I can write an extension if needed [23:26:12] I'll do this tomorrow, it's not much work I'll just create a tag [23:26:13] I suspect you can hack the math stuff [23:26:22] yea, was my intention [23:31:01] ok I looked into it, it will be simple to write an extension, I'll do this tomorrow. [23:31:04] bye folks [23:31:11] bye [23:42:38] n8