[00:00:09] anyway, it appears like that for me (Windows XP) in Firefox 3, IE 7, Safari 3.1 and Opera 9.5 [00:00:17] What's the command to get a list of categories? [00:00:29] solifugus: go to Special:Categories on the wiki [00:01:55] 03(ASSIGNED) Wikimedia Belgium mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15465 (10cbass) [00:02:18] 03(FIXED) Request for brazilian chapter's mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15446 +comment (10cbass) [00:02:38] solifugus, you mean in PHP code, using the API, or as a human user? [00:04:01] Simetrical: as a human user.. I got it, as per Skizzerz [00:04:04] Simetrical: if you don't want to reorder the arguments, it should at least accept null instead of array() for the middle ones, no? [00:04:24] davidmccabe, I don't see why. It makes no real difference. Three characters less? [00:06:11] Simetrical: it's just what people expect. [00:06:24] *davidmccabe is for making APIs as slick and surprise-free as possible. [00:06:57] It's what some people would expect. Logically I'd expect an empty array to work for sure. [00:07:12] So you could take the PHP approach and just make every possible thing people might expect work, or you could have one consistent way to do it. [00:07:19] I chose the latter. [00:07:26] Way to insult my position ;) [00:07:29] ;) [00:07:31] <[X]> Argh, the api isn't recognizing the multiple parameters [00:07:38] Avast!! [00:09:23] later [00:11:57] 03(mod) Add action=patrol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15445 +comment (10soxred93) [00:19:06] <[X]> Is there any API developer here? [00:21:43] they are there [00:23:13] 03(mod) One slow extension can block all wiki pages for all users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15460 (10mediawiki) [00:24:23] <[X]> Alnokta, who are they? [00:25:15] [X], them :P [00:25:32] <[X]> I'm confused. [00:31:00] Jesus! [00:31:46] [X], i'm sorry, was just joking.. they (api devs) don't seem to be reading you.. [00:31:52] <[X]> Ah [00:32:40] <^demon> [X]: What's up? I don't work on the api specifically.... [00:35:14] Is there where I can ask a question about the MediaWiki software [00:36:38] this is [00:37:10] 03(mod) Add action=patrol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15445 +comment (10soxred93) [00:37:16] So one day I was walking along the Yellow Brick Road when I started getting daily messages that my wiki had exceeded it's disk space [00:37:31] find a better host? [00:37:40] You're funny! no really [00:37:48] anyway, do you have uploads enabled? [00:37:55] So anyway, I thought, gee maybe I can just delete a bunch of old revisions [00:38:17] I don't know what your question means, so probably not [00:38:27] can you upload images and such to your wiki? [00:38:34] Never tried to do that [00:38:41] ok, then probably not [00:39:22] I have this "Upload file" [00:39:37] but if you never used it, it isn't the issue :) [00:39:56] "File uploads are disabled on this wiki. " [00:40:13] Some of my articles have several hundred old revisions [00:40:34] ok, there is a maintenance script you can run that deletes every old revision [00:41:02] I wish there was a way to just pick *an* article and delete it's old revisions, instead of all revisions for everything [00:41:34] how much disk space you have? [00:41:36] I tried just deleting the article and restoring the current version but it seems to remember all the old changes anyway [00:41:40] I know of ways to delete old revisions individually, or all at once. Don't know a way to delete it per-article [00:42:04] The limit its complaing about alnokta is 500 Meg [00:42:14] 512 Meg rather [00:42:38] big wiki [00:42:59] What I wish I could do, is say "Delete permanently, all the deleted data I already deleted! :)) [00:43:28] that is possible [00:43:33] How alnokta [00:43:45] a script in maintenance directory [00:43:55] what script [00:45:11] deleteArchivedRevisions.php probably [00:45:34] <_mary_kate_> deleting page revisions won't save disk space, as they aren't stored on disk, but in mysql [00:46:54] You have any suggestions mary kate [00:48:08] their mysql quota is probably the same as disk quota, thats why deleting revs should reduce disk usage [00:53:26] alnokta, usually not that I've seen, they tend to be separate. [00:59:21] The DeleteOldRevisions php deletes all of history, not just the deleted portions [01:02:30] hmmm something odd here, let me read this again five times [01:05:14] Simetrical, thats where the 'probably' kicks in :) [01:06:46] buggy_buggy, * Delete archived (deleted from public) revisions from the database deleteArchivedRevisions.php [01:07:10] you have deleted version and non deleted version [01:07:18] I can't find such an extension on MediaWiki the page is blank [01:07:18] I assume it mean it "hard delete" both [01:09:11] 03(mod) Wikimedia Belgium mailing list - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15465 (10dereckson) [01:09:40] :o [01:10:31] alnokta I dont have a script like that in my files [01:10:41] and theres no extension page at mediawiki with that name [01:11:43] buggy_buggy, in your maintenance directory [01:11:54] its not there [01:12:18] are you thinking of deleteoldrevisions? [01:12:28] 03(FIXED) Wikimedia Belgium mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15465 (10cbrown1023) [01:14:50] buggy_buggy, nope, what is your mediawiki version? [01:14:58] 1.6 [01:15:32] *Skizzerz stands by his first statement -- find a better host [01:15:39] one that has PHP 5, at least [01:15:56] there really is no reason to not have upgraded by now [01:16:19] (last sentence was @ the hosting places, not at you) [01:18:54] I can't believe in 5 years I'm the first person to want to reduce the size of a wiki without throwing away all history :) [01:19:22] Actually I don't know if the wiki software's been around 7 years yet.... [01:19:37] buggy_buggy, yes the page is missing in 1.6 .. so scratch that soln unless you upgrade [01:19:48] *page = file [01:29:38] 03ialex * r40412 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LinkBatch.php: No need to wrap it in a ResultWrapper object as Database::query() already returns a ResultWrapper object [01:42:34] 03erik * r40413 10/trunk/tools/planet/en/config.ini: *cough* fix erikz's feed url [01:44:32] 03(mod) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582 (10tony1) [01:52:49] 03(mod) Add action=patrol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15445 +comment (10soxred93) [02:03:44] <[X]> Could a dev please implement that now? ^demon has taken a look at it, and it looks good [02:17:51] 03(mod) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582 (10l8qjvx002) [02:17:58] hi TimStarling [02:18:10] hi [02:29:58] <[X]> Could a dev please implement bug 15445 now? ^demon has taken a look at it, and it looks good [02:51:21] hey TimStarling what's up [02:51:29] hi brion [02:51:36] judging by your suffix, I should be asking you that [02:51:43] *brion-sick *cough* [02:52:02] I was just trying to work out the report at the bottom of WP:VPT [02:53:53] it's an invalid rc_params/log_params row that was put there before I updated to HEAD yesterday [02:54:07] s/row/field [02:54:40] tadam... just woke up. [02:54:44] 03(mod) Add action=patrol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15445 (10brion) [02:55:21] brion: how was your trip? [02:55:41] awesome, until we got sick on the flight home :) [02:55:46] <[X]> brion-sick: You just had to say that when I close the terminal [02:56:03] where did you go ? [02:56:13] yeah, you sounded alright when I phoned you :) [02:56:15] atlanta for http://dragoncon.org/ [02:56:27] yeah, before i got on the plane i was great ;) [02:56:39] 03(mod) Add action=patrol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15445 +comment (10soxred93) [02:56:50] <[X]> Brion-sick, better? [02:56:57] i should have worn my anti-sars mask [02:57:35] anyway, poking at things a bit this evening since i napped in the afternoon due to having trouble concentrating on the screen :P [02:58:18] *MrZ-man notes https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12650 also needs comments [02:58:23] brion, okay, then can you add me as a member of http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code-2008-wikimedia/ then ? :p asked leslie, said you would have to do it [02:58:28] TimStarling: i think the source they show is a generic 'empty page' source that some browsers turn up [02:58:52] like I say, the problem is an invalid title in rc_params [02:59:08] ah [02:59:14] *brion still a bit woozy [02:59:18] LogPage calls Title::newFromText() which returns null, that gets passed through to Linker::makeLinkObj() which fails [02:59:35] the challenge now is to work out how an invalid title got in there [02:59:43] NicDumZ: ok which mail should i add? [02:59:45] I'm looking at some diffs [02:59:59] brion, nicdumz | gmail | com [03:03:58] NicDumZ: added [03:04:07] * @todo clarify whether access is supposed to be public (was marked as "kind of public") [03:04:23] hey, what's unclear about "kind of public"? [03:04:26] brion, works; thanks ;) [03:04:39] I don't know how I can be more specific [03:04:56] kind of like public, and kind of not [03:08:15] heh [03:12:55] it's the only one in the table in the last week [03:13:01] | log_id | log_timestamp | log_params | [03:13:06] | 16938405 | 20080902163557 | Hum%C4%81t ad-Diy%C4%81r | [03:13:07] | 16938406 | 20080902163557 | Talk:Hum%C4%81t ad-Diy%C4%81r | [03:13:31] maybe it was just random corruption by APC [03:14:04] it's easy to imagine it getting mUrlform confused with mTextform [03:14:07] <[X]> Could a dev please look at !bug 15445 [03:14:08] 03brion * r40414 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Skin.php): [03:14:08] * (bug 2889) MediaWiki:Print.css applies to the printable version [03:14:08] MediaWiki:Handheld.css and MediaWiki:Print.css now available (handheld only if $wgHandheldStyle is configured). [03:14:33] [X]: it's a review request, right? [03:14:50] [X]: did you update it in response to my comment? [03:14:52] <[X]> Actually, ^demon has reviewed it already, and it looks good [03:14:55] <[X]> Brion, yes [03:15:02] <[X]> Within 5 minutes ;) [03:15:35] brion: did you go somewhere fun? [03:16:24] 03(mod) Print stylesheet should be explicitly editable (e.g. MediaWiki: Print.css) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2889 (10brion) [03:16:31] 03(FIXED) Hide categories in printable style sheets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10886 +comment (10brion) [03:16:58] agh crap [03:17:01] *brion stabs bugzilla [03:17:19] <[X]> Been a lot of stabbing in other channels today too [03:17:22] 04(REOPENED) Hide categories in printable style sheets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10886 +comment (10brion) [03:17:39] 03(WONTFIX) Hide categories in printable style sheets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10886 (10brion) [03:18:03] 03(FIXED) Print stylesheet should be explicitly editable (e.g. MediaWiki: Print.css) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2889 +comment (10brion) [03:18:06] bz really needs to let you reassign *and* resolve in one step [03:18:19] AaronSchulz: http://dragoncon.org [03:18:34] *AaronSchulz finishes watching Sarah Palin [03:18:36] <[X]> One of the few quips I have found with bugzilla [03:18:50] <^demon|away> AaronSchulz: First impressions? [03:19:24] As far as reving up the base, I'd say she knocked it out of the park [03:19:50] Also did a good job at eroding Obama. As an Obama supporter, makes me a little scared now ;) [03:20:03] *AaronSchulz will watch the polls [03:20:09] <^demon> brion: Wouldn't also adding it if isPrintable() be a good idea? People expect printable=yes to mirror media=print. [03:20:53] <^demon> AaronSchulz: I'm interested to see how much support she _does_ get from the suburbian women, as that's her target demographic. [03:21:13] I laughed at some of her clever Obama jokes [03:21:32] mmm...journey of personal discovery, hehe [03:21:59] ^demon: should already be doing that on the output end of things [03:22:16] the nice thing about the new addStyle system is that we don't have to worry about that when specifying what styles we want to use [03:22:17] ^demon: I'm not sure she did much expansion theree [03:22:34] at output time the system knows 'oh we said printable=yes or handheld=yes so let's fudge it' [03:22:41] perhaps encouraged the base and got more people likely to care enough to vote [03:22:43] 03tstarling * r40415 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: Documentation [03:23:29] yes, let's all elect a creationist with no national-level government experience to be the fill-in president when the old guy has a heart attack [03:23:30] *there [03:23:44] hehe [03:23:59] 03tstarling * r40416 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LogPage.php: Work around database corruption reported on WP:VPT -- unlinked title instead of PHP error. Break long lines. [03:24:03] <^demon> brion: Gotcha :-) [03:24:13] brion: she tweaked here position on that :p [03:24:28] the day after, she clarified about "teaching the controversy" instead [03:24:36] which I still thing is stupid, but whatever [03:24:45] *think, bah [03:24:58] <^demon> But but, her son's in the army, which makes her a perfect commander in chief. Seeing as we all know that having a family member in the armed forces makes you qualified for a leadership role. [03:25:00] *AaronSchulz needs to stop sitting with both feet on the chair [03:25:23] <^demon> I had two grandfathers in the navy...does that make me good to be Sec. of Defense? [03:25:27] "teaching the controversy" sounds good until you realize that the controversy was settled over a century ago by actual scientists [03:25:47] and we do teach about that in the history of science [03:26:11] brion: hehe, don't need to tell me, I'm more of a Positivist than anyone in this room probably [03:26:49] <^demon> I still can't get over her 17 year old's baby daddy. [03:26:55] brion: however, she opened up a lot of worms [03:27:06] 1) That jet was sold "for profit" [03:27:14] 2) She took earmarks as mayor [03:27:26] 3) She initially supported that bridge to nowhere apparently [03:27:59] financial scandals and pork scandals? throw in a sexual harassment scandal and she'll be as gold as bill clinton [03:28:00] 4) McCain's whole bit has been on experience, which makes adding her kind of akward [03:28:29] <^demon> AaronSchulz: Ding ding ding on #4 [03:28:32] but hey! she's a woman! now you don't have to feel bad for not voting for the minority guy [03:28:33] 5) Who the fuck knows that else [03:28:56] *what else [03:29:39] <^demon> 6) They enjoy shooting wolves from helicopters [03:29:50] huh? [03:30:03] <^demon> Family enjoys hunting as a family outing. [03:30:04] brion: Took a while but found proof you were there http://photos.dragoncon.org/main.php?g2_itemId=16771. [03:30:08] ridiculous coefficient too high, hard to believe [03:30:23] rofl [03:30:32] *brion hasn't gone through his photos yet [03:30:46] ^demon: link? [03:30:56] ^demon: i love animals... they're delicious [03:31:27] <[X]> oh noes! [03:32:08] http://www.nabble.com/STOP-DOUBLE-STANDARD!!!-OR-HYPOCRESY!!!-td19296964.html [03:33:08] <^demon> AaronSchulz: Let me see if I can dig it up. [03:36:33] brion: btw, Sarah thinks global warming is "unreliable" [03:37:05] *AaronSchulz awaits the wrath [03:37:12] AaronSchulz: seriously. i was hoping global warming would give me a nice pleasant summer, but it was pretty cold most of the time here in SF [03:37:31] TimStarling: To continue last night's conversation was looking to use NS protections for images/files. Remember a while back I wrote an extension/patches that would allow NS protection using Image:[NS]:name.txt. Was going to use something like Image[NS]:name.txt by creating a FilePro class extension "NSRepo". [03:37:33] maybe if i got an SUV and drove more? [03:37:34] http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9887 [03:37:38] tsk tsk, it's average earth's temp [03:37:52] <[Hyarion]> noo, I just closed digg/reddit to get away from all the Palin, and now she's spread to here too :p [03:37:56] NSRepo makes me think of objective-C programming :P [03:38:05] [[NSRepo alloc] init] [03:38:05] brion: maybe some people in Africa will have a drought then [03:38:14] Cheap shot [03:38:32] :) [03:38:49] AaronSchulz: let them drink coke [03:38:51] brion: or you will maker it warmer in Ohio during the winter [03:39:13] <^demon> AaronSchulz: Revise #5. She *supports* it at the very least. [03:39:26] <^demon> http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/8/30/20129/1935 [03:39:36] "Ohio: it could be worse, you could be in Kentucky" [03:39:40] 03(mod) Wikibits patch #3 - realign sorting icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15400 (10mhorvath2161) [03:39:40] To do this, need to override Special:Upload (as an Extension), and probably Special:ImageList [03:40:04] brion: all we know well is the average temp gets high and stuff gets messed up. Heh, makes me think of spinning a game wheel. [03:40:14] Plus create the UserCan checks in the NSRepo [03:40:51] TimStarling: Right so far? [03:41:30] sounds about right [03:41:40] ^demon: well remember, they don't have *souls* :) [03:41:54] <^demon> No wolves in heaven? [03:41:56] <^demon> :( [03:42:29] No Dogs go to Heaven [03:44:37] brion: "drill baby drill!"... honestly did not see that one coming [03:45:55] OK, how do I override Special:Upload? Just replace $wgSpecialPages['Upload'] = 'MyExtension'; from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Special_pages#The_Setup_File? [03:49:21] 03(NEW) Add action=purge to API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15466 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (innocentkiller) [03:50:51] TimStarling: and NSRepo extends LocalRepo - is this a good place to start? [03:50:58] jdpond: idk if it's possible or how you'd do it but you might want to take a look at how en.wp and commons do it [03:50:58] the toolbox upload file link goes to a locally maintained wiki page with a wizard that eventually leads to the upload form. also commons has quite a bit of js in there [03:51:17] <[X]> I'll take care of that bug [03:51:27] <[X]> Wait, it already has a patch [03:51:59] [X]: i had to look up at scrollback... i read it as action=patrol for a second and was going to dupe mark :-) [03:52:02] jdpond: yes [03:52:14] <[X]> Heh [03:52:24] <[X]> No, it has had some duplicates [03:54:27] jeremyb: Yikes! I'm having trouble getting my head around the FileRepo Classes - mix with client side stuff and I'll go nuts. [03:56:00] <^demon> Whoo filerepo. :-p [03:58:16] 03tstarling * r40417 10/trunk/php/wmerrors/ (package2.xml wmerrors.c): Display catchable fatal errors that won't be thrown [03:59:29] TimStarling: when you have a chance, i sent you an email earlier about that nasty performance regression on 1.13. it looks like you already fixed it on trunk, so it'll just need to be applied on branch and a bugfix release made [03:59:52] haven't checked my email yet today [03:59:55] <^demon> brion: I thought it was applied? [04:00:12] is that the objectcache thing? [04:00:16] ^demon: i dunno, i was asleep a few hours ;) [04:00:16] yeah [04:00:23] <^demon> !r 40391 [04:00:23] --mwbot-- http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=40391 [04:01:33] using a separate connection looked like the best way to fix it to me [04:01:44] we've fixed things like that before with fragile little tweaks [04:02:03] but it's way too easy to reintroduce them without a separate connection [04:02:07] TimStarling: Any step by step docs on creating a $wgForeignFileRepos, haven't figured out how prefix gets associated with name => 'shared' (for example). Do I need to create a namespace 'shared'? (I can probably figure this out from code) [04:02:33] what prefix? [04:02:48] eg: shared:file.txt [04:03:03] the repos all share the same namespace [04:03:13] ok i'm gonna head off and eat some dinners [04:03:18] and hopefully not cought myself to death [04:03:20] <^demon> jdpond: I've kept the docs on mw.org fairly up-to-date on $wgForeignFileRepos. [04:04:37] Namspace = NS_IMAGE? [04:05:15] Aaargh. Let me go back and study some more before I make a fool of myself. I'll be back. [04:08:27] thanks ^demon. here comes a headache! [04:09:08] <^demon> jdpond: Headaches are bad :( [04:15:40] 03demon * r40418 10/trunk/phase3/includes/HTMLFileCache.php: No more icky mkdir() calls. Grepping for mkdir() now returns nothing :) [04:18:17] grepping for mkdir() does return something, in the .svn directory ;) [04:20:04] *[X] needs someone good at API [04:23:47] <^demon> Krimpet: Boo. [04:23:52] <^demon> Anyways, off to sleep. [04:23:53] <^demon> night. [04:24:21] Krimpet: gfind -name .svn -type d -prune -o -type f -exec grep -EnH 'theregex' {} + | less [04:28:39] although grep 'mkdir()' yields nothing atm anyway per whitespace [04:32:05] there's still a mkdir after svn up [04:32:25] (only 1 outside /maintenance) [04:33:23] <[X]> Krimpet: Grep fail [04:33:48] $ echo -n 'before:'; gfind -name .svn -type d -prune -o -type f -exec grep -nH 'mkdir\s*(' {} + | wc -l; echo -n 'after:'; svn up &>../svnup.out && gfind -name .svn -type d -prune -o -type f -exec grep -nH 'mkdir\s*(' {} + | wc -l [04:33:49] before: 11 [04:33:49] after: 9 [04:34:03] that didn't catch any calls with the ( on the next line though [04:35:10] *[X] still awaits a developer to implement a patch [04:43:04] Hey, if I have access to my database, but no longer have my sysop password (old wiki) is there an easy way to make a new sysop account or replace the old password? [04:43:43] Alternatively, it'd be even nicer if I could just promote the account I'd been using for editing to sysop. [04:49:05] nvm got it [04:58:12] hi everybody [04:58:30] anyone knows how shoy a image in a article? [04:58:58] <[X]> !images | BioVirus [04:58:58] --mwbot-- BioVirus: For instructions to use images in MediaWiki, see . For more technical details about image uploads, see and . Note that uploads are disabled per default (see !uploads). [05:00:56] thnks, [05:01:06] its good to say thnks to a bot? [05:01:09] xD [05:07:33] !uploads | BioVirus [05:07:33] --mwbot-- BioVirus: File uploads are an often-used feature of MediaWiki, but are disabled by default in all current release versions. To enable them, first make the upload directory (default images) writable by PHP, then set $wgEnableUploads to true in LocalSettings.php (i.e. "$wgEnableUploads = true;"). See for more info. [05:09:16] hahahah, how can i upload a iamge? [05:09:40] <[X]> Special:Upload? [05:10:52] yep, i want to show a image in a article, but im reading I need to upload the image, is it true? [05:11:11] <[X]> Yes [05:11:44] can i show a image without need to upload? [05:14:37] <[X]> Yes, but it is extremely limited [05:17:25] <[X]> !externalimages [05:17:25] --mwbot-- To allow images from elsewhere to be included in your wiki, see . To limit this to some specific sources, see . [05:18:10] where can i change this line? [05:18:29] $wgAllowExternalImages [05:29:36] hello [05:31:50] 03(mod) Default system messages should be improved. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6702 (10N/A) [05:36:28] 03(mod) Default system messages should be improved. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6702 (10niklas.laxstrom) [05:36:53] 03(NEW) Pipe trick not working when used as template parameter that is in turn used in a reference citation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15467 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Cite; (ta.bu.shi.da.yu) [05:56:01] hello davidmccabe [05:56:10] davidmccabe: I got your message, but I don't know to which commit you are referring. [05:56:45] I'm not sure that I'd ever solely use the message "other misc stuff" unless I'd recently committed something related. [05:56:51] I don't know to which message you are referring. [05:56:56] oh yeah. [05:56:58] this one: [05:57:03] 18:50 #mediawiki: < davidmccabe> Werdna: I am very glad to have people like you committing changes to LQT. But please avoid big commits with messages like "misc. other stuff". [05:57:07] 18:51 #mediawiki: < davidmccabe> Werdna: There have been regressions since I last looked at this code and it's hard to track them down. [05:57:27] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=39905 [05:57:45] Btw your code wasn't causing the regression. [05:57:52] But that's a lot of stuff for one commit. [05:58:03] yeah, I did it all in one go. [05:58:05] Well, in particular I have no idea what the misc. stuff was. [05:58:16] anyways, the cleanup is appreciated. [05:58:28] I don't know either. I don't think it was anything substantial. [05:58:33] heh. [05:58:33] ok. [05:58:58] well, my original turn-off for working on LWT was that it wasn't formatted as most extensions are, so made it follow our conventions a bit more. [05:59:06] great. [05:59:18] Remember that your conventions change every 9 monthhtns :) [05:59:35] :P [05:59:36] hehe [05:59:38] we know [05:59:56] your code is expected to adapt to them of its own accord. [06:01:34] Doesn't yours do that? [06:01:38] I might have to implement it :P [06:03:05] 03(mod) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582 +comment (10smccandlish) [06:06:56] http://dmccabe.org/tmp/rc2.png [06:07:01] RC entry for a new discussion. [06:07:03] Feedback? [06:07:32] hmm. [06:07:35] I don't really like it [06:07:44] ok [06:07:47] Should be consistent with the rest of the UI [06:07:54] what would that entail? [06:08:14] 'WikiSysop' (toollinks) created a new discussion, 'Test talk', on 'Talk:Main page' [06:08:29] adding recentchanges entries that are totally out of whack with the rest of recentchanges is probably a bad idea. [06:08:43] 03(mod) Whitelist more HTML tags: abbr acronym address dfn kbd q samp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671 +comment (10smccandlish) [06:08:45] If they want to see the actual content, they can visit the link, as with any other change. [06:09:26] Well maybe we'll change other RCs to look like this later :) [06:09:33] in and of itself from a design standpoint? [06:15:21] <_wooz> lo [06:16:27] davidmccabe: consistency is a critical aspect of design. [06:16:46] Suppose we were to make all RC entries have snippets. [06:16:48] Then what? [06:17:21] how long is the snippet? [06:17:28] 200 chars at the moment. [06:17:28] is it truncated, or is it whatever's typed in? [06:18:24] it's truncated. see the ellipsis? [06:18:57] yes, I wasn't sure whether that was in your test data or not. [06:19:07] mmm... an integer number of line changes would be very nice [06:19:24] Splarka: in this case it's for a new thing. [06:19:25] (but would require generating a diff for every edit) [06:19:36] that would require caching different data :) [06:19:40] 03tstarling * r40419 10/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php: Fix for bug 13770, second attempt. Tested with a conflicting install of both dom and domxml, as per the report. [06:19:40] sure, but what good are new features without feature creep from feature creeps [06:20:25] I'm more concerned with the data that we do show. Is this a good set of information for a talkpage post? [06:21:35] Werdna: Note that moves, protects, etc. also look different. [06:21:47] Completely different data types deserve different representations. [06:22:01] hi folks [06:22:26] moin [06:22:34] is it possible to use 2 different mediawikis and add an article to one that will also be published in the other one ? [06:22:47] deutsch david ? [06:23:00] no. [06:23:09] oh sry ;) [06:24:55] so to let u know waht i want: we are using 2 wikis and have to copy articles from one to the other when the category name is linked to the other wiki. because of user rights we can�t use only one wiki [06:24:57] 03(FIXED) Use Preprocessor_Hash by default to avoid missing DOM module errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13770 +comment (10tstarling) [06:25:25] and as u see this is a very ineffective way, but i dont know how to fix it [06:25:55] Have you tried an extension to give you user groups? [06:28:15] we use user groups but one wiki holds some sensible data and the other one is used in cooperation so that we have to make the two ones work [06:29:25] they are used in our company and the one i have to copy articles to is used with 2 other companies so i cant cancel that wiki and integrate it into our own company wiki [06:30:22] but maybe there is a way to publish one article in both wikis? [06:33:37] ok, i recognize that there is no answer at the moment... so i�ll try to ask again later [06:33:40] thx and bye [06:38:05] 03tstarling * r40420 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SkinTemplate.php: Ignore invalid titles in $out->getLanguageLinks(). [06:54:30] 03mkroetzsch * r40421 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_GlobalFunctions.php: Corrected language class names. (bug 15378) [06:54:36] 03(FIXED) Aliasing does not work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15378 +comment (10markus) [06:56:53] hi [06:57:32] Hello. [06:58:24] http://jwz.livejournal.com/931548.html [06:59:46] 03(mod) After upgrading to SMW 1.2.1 and installing the SPARQL endpoint , SMW_refreshData.php doesn't work anymore - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15117 +comment (10markus) [07:00:12] 03(mod) Enable alias "WP:" -> "Wikipedia:" for italian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15116 (10powerpdn) [07:02:01] what needs to go into 1.13.1, other than the objectcache locking fix and the domxml/dom fix? [07:03:57] TimStarling: this, maybe [07:03:57] * (bug 15351) Fix fatal error for invalid section fragments in autocomments [07:04:44] Was Linker.php broken in the 1.13 release? [07:05:13] Simetrical was thinking too hard when he fixed that bug [07:05:21] I had to rewrite that patch [07:05:34] thinking TOO hard? [07:05:54] yes, trying to work out how Title::newFromText() came to return null [07:06:16] when it plainly can under lots of types of input, and it doesn't really matter how [07:06:28] you just have to deal with it when it does [07:06:34] anyway, my fix is broken too [07:06:46] 03(NEW) MediaWiki offline support for Google Gears including page edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15468 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (mail) [07:06:54] o_O [07:07:04] 14(INVALID) property containing page can not link to media files after upgrade to 1.2. 1 - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15124 +comment (10markus) [07:07:05] that bug is somewhat scary :P [07:08:55] it's not a bug, it's a bugzilla [07:09:11] *Werdna runs from the bugzilla, as it destroys Sydney. [07:10:41] 03tstarling * r40422 10/branches/REL1_13/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php: Fix for bug 13770 (backport of r40419) [07:12:26] not many giant monster movies involve australia.. "oh, a city? smash! ... now what... hmm, next city, 4000 miles.. oh bugger, I'd rather go to Japan" [07:13:28] well, there's always newcastle :P [07:18:13] 03(mod) Poor concurrent performance due to objectcache table locks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15460 summary; +comment (10tstarling) [07:18:51] I'm trying a recipe for "chocolate cake in a cup" [07:19:32] cupcake? [07:19:58] chocolatecup? [07:20:02] oh, what is british for cupcake.. chipbrollyscone or something [07:20:33] mugbiscuit? [07:20:37] Splarka: I call it a chocolate mugcake. [07:20:44] *Splarka grins [07:21:25] what consistency? pudding, brownie, heavy cake, angelfood cake, fairy cake? [07:21:40] *Splarka gets hungry [07:21:56] *MZMcBride wants a cupcake. [07:22:40] *Werdna samples. [07:23:02] not too bad, but next time I should mix my ingredients a bit better. [07:25:41] 14(WFM) with format=eventline, each pop-up' s title has a garbled link to the date heading - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15277 +comment (10markus) [07:29:02] 03aaron * r40423 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Avoid string '::' call in $wgSpecialPageCacheUpdates [07:44:46] ok, my fix for 15351 is in fact not broken [07:44:52] nice to know [07:46:08] 03tstarling * r40424 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: Clarify documentation [07:53:03] hi Duesentrieb [07:53:12] moin Werdna [07:54:32] 03(FIXED) Fatal error due to passing invalid title to Linker::link ( from a summary) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15351 +comment (10tstarling) [07:55:01] so you think that one should be backported? it's pretty rare [07:55:06] in theory it could be abused, I guess [07:55:30] it'd make it hard to see the diffs associated with vandalism [08:14:06] 03(mod) Fatal error due to passing invalid title to Linker::link ( from a summary) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15351 (10tstarling) [08:14:21] ok, anything else? [08:23:37] *Werdna comes back [08:23:47] 03(NEW) Proxying capability of old query.php in the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15469 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (lupo.bugzilla) [08:23:59] TimStarling: I didn't see anything else in RELEASE-NOTES, I just figured anything with "fatal error" in it is something that should be backported. [08:29:45] hi how can make a contact form in mediawiki? [08:29:59] more like this http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contact [08:30:42] node100101: probably an extension. [08:32:36] hmm which one? [08:32:44] !e ContactPage [08:32:44] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ContactPage [08:33:02] that's not the one wikia uses [08:33:23] well as long as i can define a simple form mailer kinda thing.. its kewl [08:33:33] hey Duesntrieb thanks bro.. [08:33:41] example: http://brightbyte.de/page/Special:Contact [08:33:42] np [08:45:34] 03(mod) Improvements for Spezial:OldReviewedPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14110 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [08:47:19] 03(mod) There is no mark-this-revision link if only the diff, not the page content, is shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14015 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [09:22:22] 04(REOPENED) with format=eventline, each pop-up' s title has a garbled link to the date heading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15277 +comment (10info) [09:26:04] hi, i've asked yesterday, but got no answer. i have turned off the forcing of the capital letter on the article names in my wiki, however i am still having trouble with it automatically capitalising the uploaded files' first letter [09:31:17] Anarhist: all i can sy is thataccording to Setup.php, LocalFileRepo folows the $wgCapitalLinks setting [09:32:44] i think it's the javascript that tries to be 'helpful' if i select the image then change the desired name to the all lowercase then it works [09:32:58]