[00:14:54] what do I need to change to change the license of a mediawiki installation? [00:16:56] naught101: there should be a section in localsettings.php for that [00:17:25] Skizzerz: it's just the three variables, name, URL and image, right? [00:17:30] $wgRightsPage, $wgRightsUrl, $wgRightsText, $wgRightsIcon [00:17:43] and there's a commented-out $wgRightsCode that is currently unused [00:18:19] , ok thanks [00:18:38] 'lo all [00:18:50] what will be the best setup for php development on mac? [00:19:07] j4zzcat: #php/##php [00:25:48] 03(mod) Upload filter insufficient to stop XSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15895 (10mikelifeguard) [00:33:41] 03river * r41873 10/trunk/tools/ts-specs/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [00:33:41] base-specs/curl: bump version to avoid useless download during build [00:33:41] TSnicstat, TSpca: new specs [00:35:47] 03straussd * r41874 10/civicrm/trunk/sites/default/ (civicrm.settings.php settings.php): Remove config files [00:44:21] 03straussd * r41875 10/civicrm/trunk/sites/default/: Properly ignore the settings files. [00:46:19] *Skizzerz really wants to get ahold of that person and ask them wtf they're doing... somehow I don't think civicrm/joomla fit into mediawiki's scope [00:47:27] <_mary_kate_> it's probably for the wm fundraising stuff [00:47:33] <_mary_kate_> which uses civicrm [00:47:39] <^demon> Skizzerz: It's David Strauss, and _mary_kate_ is right. [00:47:47] ah [00:48:03] that makes some sense then [00:48:23] <^demon> (why it's not in /trunk/civicrm like all other projects...*shrugs*) [00:48:47] <_mary_kate_> ^demon: our svn layout is totally screwed anyway [00:49:01] <_mary_kate_> one of the very annoying problems with svn, the lack of real branches and tags [00:49:24] <^demon> Well yes, but a self-imposed order helps where the software doesn't provide :) [00:50:27] <_mary_kate_> there's never been any order in the repo, stuff just goes in random places where people think it'd look nice [00:50:43] <_mary_kate_> (/branches/branchname/foo, /branches/foo/branchname, ...) [00:52:46] hi guys [00:53:04] is there some sort of wiki where users can enter data in tables, and the resulting data can be queried via sql? [00:56:39] 03vyznev * r41876 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/parser/CoreParserFunctions.php): [00:56:39] Make the {{ns:}} core parser function accept localized namespace names and aliases. Also change the output to use spaces [00:56:39] instead of underscores so that it matches the output of {{NAMESPACE}} and related magic words. [00:58:30] 03(mod) Rename the "Image" namespace to "File" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44 +comment (10nospam) [01:38:49] 03(NEW) Feature request: Add checkbox to Special: Contributions to show only pages created by user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15900 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (seattle.skier2) [01:50:42] 03(mod) incomplete rename, causes error on SUL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15899 (10mr-jack) [02:00:29] 03(NEW) Problem with $wgSiteNotice after upgrading to MW 1.13 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15901 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (maziminke) [02:07:12] 03(mod) Feature request: Add checkbox to Special: Contributions to show only pages created by user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15900 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [02:10:22] k-man: (late) Semantic MediaWiki [02:27:08] 03tstarling * r41877 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/checkImages.php: Image integrity checker [02:42:18] Is is possible to insert php code into a wiki page? I have a form that looks up in a mysql table that I want to insert into a mediawiki page. [02:46:30] TimStarling: Nice. :-) [02:46:42] cdavis: Yes, but you need to do so carefully. [02:47:21] cdavis: You obviously don't want to allow raw injection of PHP. That would be entirely insecure. But you can use an extension like HTMLets. [02:47:26] !e HTMLets | cdavis [02:47:26] --mwbot-- cdavis: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HTMLets [02:50:00] <_mary_kate_> i guess he needs an extension tag (or page) [02:50:18] thanks [02:50:55] MZMcBride: I'm running it now [02:51:07] Excellent. [02:51:27] The relevant bug is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15889 if you remember if / when it finishes. [02:51:49] I want to make sure that images aren't still disappearing, so I'll run it several times [02:51:57] *MZMcBride stares at that grammar. [02:52:18] Any idea how long it will take to run? [02:52:54] 03tstarling * r41878 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/checkImages.php: Typo [02:53:07] it's up to dewiki after about 20 minutes [02:53:31] Assuming it goes alphabetically, that means it already did Commons? [02:54:08] good question, I don't see any reports from commons on the list [02:54:40] hmm [02:55:20] probably botched [02:56:06] yeah, it probably ran out of memory [02:56:24] since the batching is bugged and it's trying to load the whole image table [02:57:36] ok, started again [02:58:09] 03(NEW) Nostalgia skin' s search box position makes Ajax suggestions difficult to click on - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15902 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (nsk) [03:18:40] 03(NEW) Nostalgia skin should have an upload link outside the dropdown menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15903 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (nsk) [03:21:10] 03(NEW) formlink doesn't fit in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15904 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (mail) [03:21:18] Um... is the nostalgia skin still maintained? [03:21:29] Wouldn't that ruin its ... nostalgia? [03:25:13] EPIC FAIL [03:26:20] 03(mod) Allow group rights to be changed on-wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15252 (10Andrew) [03:29:01] 03(NEW) Nostalgia skin could become more usable by including a Talk: link at the top of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15905 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (nsk) [03:33:12] 03(mod) Write and run script to find non-existent images on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15889 (10mikelifeguard) [03:34:13] 03(mod) Allow group rights to be changed on-wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15252 (10mikelifeguard) [03:37:00] 03(NEW) Using #ask in a #formlink - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15906 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (mail) [03:38:09] 03(mod) Using #ask in a #formlink - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15906 (10mail) [03:38:42] 03(mod) Using #ask in a #formlink - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15906 15enhancement->normal (10mail) [03:41:44] 03aaron * r41879 10/trunk/phase3/includes/UserMailer.php: Stop watchlist links from hoping around from bold to non-bold [03:57:46] 03(NEW) Descriptive error message when upload disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15907 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Export/Import; (mikelifeguard) [03:59:32] 03(mod) Enable editors to control footnote ordering and to insert wikitex between footnotes . Also declutter article prose. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12796 (10bill.mitchell) [04:09:20] 03(mod) Allow group rights to be changed on-wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15252 (10public) [04:09:28] 03(mod) Descriptive error messages for Special:Import - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15907 summary; +comment (10mikelifeguard) [04:12:43] 03(mod) Medium-trust mode for Special:Import using uploading user' s credentials and current timestamp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8319 (10mikelifeguard) [04:13:07] 03(mod) Allow import to different page name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6808 (10mikelifeguard) [04:13:19] 03(mod) Transwiki image import - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6071 (10mikelifeguard) [04:13:31] 03(mod) Import/Export should support zipped XML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3893 (10mikelifeguard) [04:15:13] 03(mod) it.wikiversity - Impossible import pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12231 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [04:15:45] 03(mod) Enable Special:Import on se-chapter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15065 (10mikelifeguard) [04:16:23] 03(mod) Failing importe all history with [[Special:Import]] on French Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13807 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [04:16:41] 03(mod) Import sources should be maintained by stewards - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14264 (10mikelifeguard) [04:16:59] 03(mod) Special:Import should adjust namespaces to local wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5770 (10mikelifeguard) [04:17:31] 03(mod) Special:Import does not consider XML namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4520 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [04:18:48] zomg flood. [04:19:00] 03(mod) Special:Import needs to update site statistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5703 (10mikelifeguard) [04:20:14] 03(mod) Special:Import should have a hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11537 (10mikelifeguard) [04:20:50] 03(mod) Fetching revision history fails without error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11430 (10mikelifeguard) [04:21:36] 03(mod) Add Hooks to SpecialImport and SpecialExport - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11539 (10mikelifeguard) [04:21:43] 03(mod) Honour protection status in Special:Import - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 (10mikelifeguard) [04:23:26] 03(mod) Import Transwiki for only one version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15708 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [04:24:15] 03(mod) XML import does not update the redirect table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12507 (10mikelifeguard) [04:25:19] 03(mod) Special:Nuke does not list imported pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9120 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [04:25:37] 03(mod) Add log comment field when importing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12728 (10mikelifeguard) [04:25:48] MZMcBride: sorry [04:26:03] *MZMcBride shrugs. No need to apologize. :-) [04:26:30] I felt guilty even before you said anything [04:26:46] hence my request to not have CC-only changes sent to wikibugs-l [04:26:55] (although there are comments in these ones) [04:31:30] 03(mod) [Special:Import] - unclear limit of revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7032 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [04:33:31] 03(mod) Transwiki import ignores the namespace if it doesn' t have the same name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15387 (10mikelifeguard) [04:34:31] 03(NEW) Namespace dropdown on Special:Import is confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15908 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Export/Import; (mikelifeguard) [04:35:35] Mike_lifeguard: I think you just duped... [04:35:44] Oh, nevermind. :-) [04:36:24] there are several dupes there, which will be tricky to figure out, but that new one isn't one, I think [04:36:24] So, what happens if the namespace doesn't exist on the destination wiki? ;-) [04:36:27] 03(mod) Special: Export should have an option to export with the sites license - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14048 (10mikelifeguard) [04:37:14] 03(mod) Export titles matching a wildcard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3760 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [04:38:28] 03(mod) Exporting pages fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13180 (10mikelifeguard) [04:39:13] What a helpful summary. 9.9 [04:42:08] 03(mod) wikification fails - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12331 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [04:42:17] *shrug* [04:43:04] *Mike_lifeguard swears a bit at Special:Import [04:43:31] *Soxred has never used it before [04:44:49] Soxred: lucky bastard. it's shit. [04:45:03] *Soxred never has needed to use it [04:45:14] unsurprisingly. I imagine it's very tough to make it work at all, much less well [04:45:49] Though I must say I've never understood why import needs to query export on the foreign wiki if we host everything on the same physical boxes. [04:45:59] Not really. It's just that nobody has invested the time / energy to make it work well. [04:46:03] Transwiki got about half-way. [05:08:33] 03(mod) Allow exporting pages in printable document format (PDF) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=474 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [05:14:17] 03(mod) ODF export function desired - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7627 (10mikelifeguard) [05:14:30] 03(mod) Special: Export support for exporting whole categories and their sub-categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9108 (10mikelifeguard) [05:15:25] 03(mod) Export pages matching a regular expression - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10568 (10mikelifeguard) [05:17:00] 03(mod) Export pages should allow to export all pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10574 (10mikelifeguard) [05:17:09] 03(mod) Special:Import displays wrong links to imported articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11344 (10mikelifeguard) [05:17:24] 03(mod) Transwiki Special: Import via redirected interwiki URL spews PHP error about HTTP error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11378 (10mikelifeguard) [05:17:44] 03(mod) Special:Export ignoring input parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15667 (10mikelifeguard) [06:04:04] 03(NEW) freetext field needs to insert empty line before content on output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15909 minor; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (mail) [06:11:30] 03(NEW) Reduce smaxage on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15910 minor; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (public) [06:11:35] *MZMcBride hides from Domas. [06:47:00] <_wooz> lo [07:01:10] 14(INVALID) Modifying MediaWiki:Robots.txt appears to have no effect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15878 +comment (10jeluf) [07:08:04] 03(mod) Nostalgia skin should have an upload link outside the dropdown menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15903 (10nsk) [07:08:09] JeLuF: it is not possible to create MediaWiki:robots.txt . it is converted automagically to MediaWiki:Robots.txt, tray http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:robots.txt [07:08:22] Raymond__: Heh. I had the same thought. ;-) [07:08:32] Wiktionary treats cases differently. [07:08:43] 03(mod) [PATCH] Nostalgia skin should have an upload link outside the dropdown menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15903 +need-review +patch; summary (10nsk) [07:08:46] yes, in these wikis it would be possbile [07:09:24] Right. The bug was about the pl.wikt. [07:09:45] ah not mentioned [07:21:14] 03(mod) Nostalgia skin' s search box position makes Ajax suggestions difficult to click on - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15902 (10nsk) [07:21:44] 03(mod) [PATCH] Nostalgia skin' s search box position makes Ajax suggestions difficult to click on - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15902 +need-review +patch; summary (10nsk) [07:31:36] 03(NEW) Successful login message should not be displayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15911 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (nsk) [07:42:59] 03(mod) Successful login message should not be displayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15911 (10maxsem.wiki) [08:02:33] any ideas why my image won't show anything here? http://www.rcheliwiki.com/Servo_protocol [08:05:14] kitsched: Nice layout. :-) [08:05:21] Just that image or other images as well? [08:05:24] Only GIFs? [08:05:48] thanks [08:05:50] Are you using custom code that specifies, for example, image width? [08:06:03] just this, don't have any other gif's on the site as far as i know, and it must be something related to the fact that it's a thin lined diagram [08:06:10] no, no custome image width [08:06:16] *custom [08:07:42] kitsched: Re-make the image as an PNG because GIF sucks? :-) [08:08:21] A. * [08:08:42] will try [08:11:17] 03(mod) site_stats.ss_good_articles and site_stats. ss_total_pages not synchronized with the real count - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10834 (10jkbwiki) [08:13:37] TimStarling: Is checkImages.php still running? [08:14:09] yes [08:14:44] it's up to commonswiki DM-Army-OF6.gif [08:15:02] MZMcBride: replacing the image with a png solved the issue [08:19:33] 5 hours to do the first wikis and some of Commons. So.. the script will be finished in 25 hours-ish. [08:19:48] Assuming it doesn't get stopped or die. [08:25:10] what does checkImages.php do? [08:25:19] Is there a way to ask MW what extensions it has installed? [08:25:29] Rich_Morin__: Special:Extensions [08:25:35] tnx [08:25:38] Don't quote me on that. [08:25:49] kitsched: Checks to ensure that images uploaded to a wiki actually exist and are not 0 bytes. [08:26:10] It's something like that though. [08:26:33] <_mary_kate_> Special:Version [08:26:35] Rich_Morin__: Special:Version. Ignore due. :-) [08:26:35] Rich_Morin__: Heh, Special:Version [08:26:45] *due steals MZMcBride's e. [08:26:50] <_mary_kate_> due: you fool! [08:26:55] _mary_kate_: And? :D [08:27:06] My brain is switched off this evening. [08:27:11] MZMcBrid? [08:27:20] MZMcBrid: Yup. Forevermore. [08:27:44] better :) [08:29:17] 03(mod) Special:Import should have a hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11537 (10rv1971) [08:33:35] Frustration (n): A sensation experienced after spending half an hour debugging code that works. [08:33:47] :-) [08:35:20] I was using die statements to report errors, and perl treats 'die' as 'throw new Exception( $param )', and my error handling code was missing a necessary return statement. [08:35:27] so I thought my dies weren't running. [08:40:35] 04(REOPENED) Modifying MediaWiki:Robots.txt appears to have no effect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15878 +comment (10derbeth) [08:41:00] 03(mod) short URLs (really short, almost tiny) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1450 +comment (10public) [08:42:59] Werdna: reminds me of the times I've edited one file and tested another (sigh). [08:46:04] 03(mod) English Wikipedia never finishes loading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1693 summary; +comment (10public) [08:46:22] Original bug summary: "never finishes loading" [08:53:41] 03(NEW) Extension special pages not recognized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15912 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (bertrand.grondin) [08:57:28] 03(mod) Extend image syntax to allow for sidebars and such. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1729 +comment (10public) [09:01:38] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1772 <-- Anybody have any thoughts about this? [09:01:57] Parser.php is far different today. [09:07:58] 03(mod) Allow image thumb output format to be specified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1316 summary (10public) [09:16:30] MZMcBride: still a problem, and I believe it's assigned to TimStarling [09:20:35] 03(mod) Adding more search engines to 'googlesearch' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1825 +comment (10public) [09:30:32] 03(mod) Allow uploading of Blender 3D or COLLADA files to Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1790 summary; +comment (10public) [09:44:40] 03(mod) Incorrect history date on Portuguese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2219 summary (10public) [09:44:54] 03(NEW) Special:Import rejects valid XML and gives incorrect error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15913 major; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (jpatokal) [09:47:08] 03(mod) Automatic links to internal wiki articles based on patterns - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2336 summary (10public) [09:50:38] 03(NEW) Special:Export output missing XML encoding - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15914 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (jpatokal) [09:52:25] 03(mod) Image alt text should be compulsory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2443 summary; +comment (10public) [09:52:44] *MZMcBride pokes Werdna. Can't you re-commit for bug 2443 already? :P [10:16:55] hey people - i'm on quite an old version of mediawiki and i cannot upgrade - how can i use the pipe symbol | in a template? [10:17:14] the trick of creating another template containing just the pipe symbol doesn't work on this version... is there another solution? [10:18:05] ah... wrap the pipe in tags! :-) [10:26:47] MZMcBride: what was it? [10:27:02] 14(INVALID) Modifying MediaWiki:Robots.txt appears to have no effect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15878 +comment (10jeluf) [10:31:32] hi [10:32:26] I need to do a display:block/none in an extension with javascript .. is that disabled in mediawiki? and if so how do I solve that? [10:32:42] it's a toggle [10:35:00] 03(mod) Modifying MediaWiki:Robots.txt appears to have no effect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15878 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [10:35:05] f.i.: onclick="document.getElementByName('testrow').style.display = this.checked ? 'block' : 'none'" [10:35:13] for a checkbox [10:36:56] Werdna: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2443#c13 [10:50:07] 03raymond * r41880 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add the new user group 'coder' to Wikimedia specific messages [11:27:47] I want to include a php form inside of a mediawiki page, I have tired htmlets but that seems to allow static html pages only. [11:29:04] mkdir() [function.mkdir]: SAFE MODE Restriction in effect. The script whose uid is 10303 is not allowed to access /var/www/vhosts/gpps.nl/httpdocs/images/deleted/m/i/r owned by uid 48 in /var/www/vhosts/gpps.nl/httpdocs/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 1649
[11:29:25] The above is a warning, does anybody know how to solve it? [11:29:41] This warning appears when I want to delete an image [11:30:21] !safemode [11:30:21] --mwbot-- safe_mode is an ill-concieved, broken-by-design setting in PHP that is supposed to make broken scripts safe. It was deprecated in PHP5 and removed in PHP6. MediaWiki can run with safe_mode enabled, but many of the advanced features will not work or need additional configuration (image thumbnailing using ImageMagick, for example). See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Safe_mode for more information. [11:30:24] Ellywa: you should use a web host that doesn't have safe mode enabled. [11:30:54] oke, the installation was made by a provider [11:32:22] thank you very much Nikerabbit and Werdna I will ask my provider! [11:32:33] Ellywa: read that page, too. [11:32:49] yes of course [11:32:53] thanks :-) [11:33:15] hello [11:33:16] another Mediawiki installation at the same provider works perfectly... [11:33:36] How can I make rss from my wiki articles? [11:38:41] 03(mod) Enable editors to control footnote ordering and to insert wikitex between footnotes . Also declutter article prose. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12796 (10maury.markowitz) [11:46:31] 03(FIXED) #iferror should catch more errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15730 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [11:47:22] I have also explored wgrawhtml but that doesn't appear to offer a way to insert php [11:54:55] 03(NEW) has wrong value - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15915 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (danny.b) [11:55:04] 03(mod) RSS, Atom, XML syndication feeds (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3646 (10danny.b) [12:10:17] 03(NEW) Compatibility Issues between FCKeditor and SemanticMediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15916 major; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (wesley.neo) [12:40:03] 03(mod) Modifying MediaWiki:Robots.txt appears to have no effect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15878 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [12:42:15] 03(mod) short URLs (really short, almost tiny) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1450 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [12:47:38] can somebody give me hints on how to remove the title header on a wiki page? [13:07:10] hi everyone [13:08:28] i dont know how to start here. but i need some help in customizing mediawiki. is there anyone who can help me [13:09:14] Customizing it how exactly? [13:11:10] 03(mod) Extension special pages not recognized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15912 (10JSchulz_4587) [13:15:50] 03(NEW) English Wikipedia search results missing in action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15917 04BLOCKER; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (sco_scam) [13:18:26] RoanKattouw apparement it wasn't that important :) [13:20:20] 03(mod) English Wikipedia search results missing in action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15917 04BLOCKER->04CRIT (10sco_scam) [13:23:22] 03rotem * r41882 10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMessages/WikimediaMessages.i18n.php: Localization update for he. [13:28:45] i downloaded and installed a custom theme, but now the editing toolbar is missing. How can I bring it back? [13:30:41] 03(mod) Extension special pages not recognized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15912 (10bertrand.grondin) [13:31:40] hey, I would like to disallow wiki users from modifying their Real Name and Email fields... can someone point me in the right direction on how to do that? [13:32:07] 03(mod) Extension special pages not recognized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15912 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [13:32:22] OSUKid7: Why would someone be disallowed to change their e-mail? [13:32:40] RoanKattouw: I'm doing external auth using an LDAP backend... the email will never change [13:32:46] (and it's an internal site/wiki) [13:33:26] I'm trying to figure out what part of Andy's Skin http://cookandy.com/downloads/mediawiki/andy%27s-mediawiki-skin/ is dependent on not having url rewrite turned on... It's an odd behavior, any suggestions about where he might be getting this behavior? [13:39:30] Hello, pages in my wiki are taking over a minute to load? [13:39:47] I only have less than 90 pages on the wiki, most of them under 100 words. [13:40:34] madness90: Local installs are usually slow. Live with it [13:40:48] When I install a fresh intall of mediawiki it performs fast but when I try to use my existing wiki it goes really slow. [13:41:13] You're asking a humble home PC to load hundreds of PHP files into memory, do a dozen DB queries and dynamically build a UI; good luck doing that fast [13:41:26] Extensions could also cause slowness [13:41:27] www.driverwiki.com it's hosted on bluehost [13:41:49] Achually I thought I disabled all the extensions and it continued going slow. [13:41:57] I'll try disabling them again just to make sure. [13:43:02] It felt like it just happened, one day it was working one day is wasn't. There wasn't a gradual increase. [13:43:36] It could also be Bluehost's fault [13:43:59] Put a .html file or a phpinfo.php with in it somewhere and see how fast that loads [13:44:21] Hmm you're running 1.11.0. Have you considered upgrading to 1.13.2? [13:44:47] I asked them and they told me to look in tmp/mysql_slow_queries/ [13:44:54] I just upgraded to 1.13.2 [13:45:25] I've written up lots of stuff about my problem in this thread http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8765 [13:45:42] madness90: According to your own [[Special:Version]], you didn't upgrade [13:46:40] hmm... Oh! yeah, I reverted back because I thought it caused the problem. [13:46:54] See www.wiki.drivermadness.net for the version I upgraded. [13:47:16] 03jojo * r41883 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.php: only set config vars, if they have not already been set [13:47:40] so no ideas how to disallow users editing their real name and/or email fields? [13:48:26] OSUKid7, if you are using the LDAP extension without write permissions to the tree they can't change that information [13:49:04] MuelleJ: right, so I'm just trying to remove it from the mediawiki interface so the users don't wonder why their changes are being reset [13:49:49] I just removed everything abnormal in the LocalSettings file and it's all working. Now I guess I'll go through everything and I'll report where I found the problem. It's either an extension or a configiration change I made. [13:50:05] Somewhere between http://ktron.pastecode.com/6168 and http://ktron.pastecode.com/6167 I have a dependence on the URL itself, so that foo.com/index.php/Main_Page doesn't work but foo.com/index.php?t=Main_Page does... I'd love help finding it [13:51:21] Hi, how do make use of a javascript event handler (as "onclick") in an extension? [13:58:30] I got it working by removing all the extensions in LocalSettings.php, I just re-enabled them and it's still working perfectly. I assume changes should be changes automatically, which makes this pretty weird. [14:00:14] 03(mod) Extension special pages not recognized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15912 (10bertrand.grondin) [14:02:30] madness90: Fast again for me too. Weird [14:03:30] RoanKattouw: I'm not sure what happened, but thanks very much for your help. It's greatly appreciated. [14:05:30] doos: How exactly do you want to use an event handler? [14:10:49] RoanKattouw, f.i.: onclick="document.getElementByName('testrow').style.display = this.checked ? 'block' : 'none'" [14:11:04] on a checkbox [14:11:23] doos: Are you generating the checkbox yourself or are you modifying an existing one? [14:12:21] new one, through the CustomUserCreateForm extension [14:12:45] Are you using Xml::check() or Xml::element() to build it? [14:12:50] no [14:12:55] You should [14:13:02] !class Xml | doos [14:13:02] --mwbot-- doos: See http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classXml.html [14:13:12] hey everyone, i can't find it in the API documentation, but what format can timestamp be in when doing queries? [14:13:21] You can set the onclick attribute in the $attribs parameter [14:13:32] getupinthemguts: A lot of formats [14:13:41] Anything that passes as a GNU date [14:14:08] perfect - thanks! it kind of seemed like that but i just wanted to make sure [14:14:19] So standard stuff like 2008-10-09T16:12:45Z will work (that's the format the API also uses for output days), but fancy stuff like "next Monday" or "tomorrow" works too [14:15:51] RoanKattouw, this is a small wiki with trusted editors, isnt there a way to enable javascript without using xml? [14:16:23] doos: You don't understand. The Xml::* functions are a set of nice functions that make generating checkboxes and stuff like that a lot easier while also escaping stuff safely [14:16:43] Xml::check(), for instance, creates a checkbox, while Xml::checkLabel() creates a checkbox with associated label [14:17:31] RoanKattouw, I want to display some text or not depending on the checkbox was clicked or not [14:17:46] Ah, that explains [14:18:08] In that case, you should set the onclick attribute in the checkbox, as you said earlier [14:18:26] I tried, doent do a thing [14:18:48] Build your checkbox with something like Xml::check('name', false, array('onclick' => 'my javascript here')); [14:19:04] Could you check whether the onclick thingy even shows up in the resulting HTML? [14:19:30] I looked at the source, didnt show up [14:20:09] Hmm. [14:20:19] Could you put your PHP code in the pastebin? [14:22:24] its just a: onclick="document.getElementByName('testrow').style.display = this.checked ? 'block' : 'none'" [14:22:44] somehow javascript is not acceptable [14:23:02] I get that, but obviously your PHP code doesn't manage to get the onclick attribute to make it to the HTML, so I'd like to take a look at your PHP code [14:24:12] holdon, I tried so many things that the original code changed [14:25:38] where can I find the pastebin? [14:29:42] is there a commn way to use basic auth username to set the wiki username? [14:31:41] doos: See the topic. I gotta go now though [14:32:26] maybe I should ask: how do I enable javascript on my wiki? [14:32:37] surely that isnt such a hard question [14:32:48] doos, you can't insert javascript in wikitext [14:33:11] but you can add javascript on mediawiki:common.js or mediawiki:monobook.js [14:33:30] as a function? [14:34:08] as anything [14:34:24] http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js an example [14:34:39] as in: ? [14:35:00] uuh, onCahnge is allowed as a parameter ? [14:35:06] I don't think so [14:35:13] not by default at least [14:35:15] or onclick [14:35:20] neither [14:35:25] 03jojo * r41884 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/README.txt: mention domain for ldap auth [14:35:32] that is what I am trying to do [14:36:23] what is it in mediawiki that stops me from doing that? [14:36:39] protection [14:36:44] yeah [14:36:51] but how do I bypass that [14:36:52] well, there's plenty workaround [14:37:51] like document.getElementById('xx').setAttribute("onclick", (your function call or text) ) [14:37:58] directly in the javascript side [14:38:20] I can use that in an extension? [14:38:37] no, just put it in mediawiki:common.js [14:38:57] I tried that in wikibits.js [14:39:10] no, you're thinking it wrong [14:39:20] mediawiki allow to edit javascript like any other page [14:39:27] that place is mediawiki:common.js [14:39:35] it's a wiki page, not a file [14:39:56] this way you don't touch the mediawiki code itself [14:40:15] is there a parser function to determine whether something is a redirect [14:40:20] makes things easier for upgrade and such [14:41:01] yes I get that DarkoNeko, so I should just at a function to common.js and it will probably work? [14:41:06] i'm guessing not, but maybe there should be [14:41:20] doos yes [14:41:22] doos, add it as a onload event [14:41:27] CharlotteWebb not that I know off [14:41:30] and err-check that the id exists [14:41:53] thanks guys, back to coding [14:42:27] doos to be clean, put everything you want called in a function and have it called using addOnloadHook(showSkipLinks); [14:42:37] well, where showSkipLinks is your functionName [14:42:38] wanting to do something along the lines of {{#ifredirect:{{{1}}} | {{fullurl:{{{1}}}|redirect=no}} }} [14:43:05] CharlotteWebb it doesn't hurt to put a redirection=no always :) [14:43:21] I think some internal special page do that too [14:43:55] err no that's not really waht i wanted [14:44:40] more like {{#ifredirect:{{{1}}} | | [[{{{1}}}]] }} [14:44:52] to filter redirects out of a list of titles i got from the db dump [14:45:42]  [14:45:43] or does it not include redirects... guess i could check [14:45:51] but it's a long list [14:46:19] oh yes it does [14:46:21] Is there a way to make a template that has a list, and automatically becomes a properly indented sub-list if the template is invoked from a list? [14:46:28] oh, that [14:47:11] I'd like to have a .mov stream (from a QuickTime Streaming Server) embedded within a wiki page. Possible? [14:47:13] actually there is a redirect list dump too, hmm [14:47:24] guess i could subtract one from the other somehow [14:47:37] that may work... [14:47:39] there's a way to have a distinct clor in special pages, but not in articles [14:48:23] they have a distinct place, so you can color them using CSS [14:48:31] "allpagesredirect" in special:allpages [14:48:37] well i got a list of titles matching a certain pattern, i estimate at least half are redirects [14:49:14] "watchlistredir" in watchlists [14:50:09] well i gotta go to the store, i'll think about it and try something later [15:01:24] 04(REOPENED) Modifying MediaWiki:Robots.txt appears to have no effect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15878 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [15:08:08] I downloaded and installed a new skin, now the editing toolbar is missing. How can I bring it back? [15:09:35] guys, i'd like some help [15:09:45] how can i extend the mediawiki syntx [15:09:51] to support other features [15:09:56] particular to me? [15:10:13] so like particular image tags or the like [15:10:29] lenary, enable raw html? [15:11:02] nah, i think i'm going to be using it a lot [15:11:13] so i'd like some special tag or form of tag i can use [15:11:22] if at all possible [15:12:31] basically, i'd love a syntax for the external linked images [15:13:17] so i could do something like [[External:http://www.google.com/logo.png|frame|none|Google Logo]] [15:17:30] lenary: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowExternalImages [15:17:52] cirwin: found already [15:17:57] but it's not as nice as i want [15:18:03] as i said when i spoke earlier [15:18:36] wrap that in a template then [15:18:43] lenary, you could allow external images and do a template for them [15:18:51] cirwin, you were faster [15:18:57] yay :p [15:20:30] hrm... template [15:20:35] man... plan [15:20:37] i'll take it [15:22:04] this is going to be fun [15:22:05] not [15:22:07] brb [15:22:10] bye... [15:27:15] 03(mod) Special:Export output missing XML encoding - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15914 +comment (10innocentkiller) [15:28:42] argh [15:29:14] why is nobody acting on 41883 and related [15:29:50] 03(mod) Namespace dropdown on Special:Import is confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15908 +comment (10innocentkiller) [15:32:30] 03(mod) Descriptive error messages for Special:Import - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15907 +comment (10innocentkiller) [15:40:21] 06hiya [15:40:42] 06Any Mediawiki gurus awake? [15:41:16] just ask your question and someone will help if they can :) [15:42:57] 06Is a LocalSettings.php file automagically made after installation? [15:42:58] Preferably not in magenta, though. [15:43:23] 06Using Trillian [15:43:29] Ok? [15:44:25] 06Better? [15:44:30] According to http://www.washington.edu/computing/web/publishing/mediawiki.html, which may or may not be accurate and up-to-date, MediaWiki writes the initial LocalSettings.php. [15:44:34] (Also, no, that was still in magenta.) [15:45:05] phydude, it's done after install [15:45:13] 06Eh magenta will have to stick for a bit till I find the settings to turn it off [15:45:14] you need to manually move it from 'config' to the qwiki root [15:45:28] 06So why didn't it make one after installation? [15:45:40] how did you install it? [15:45:50] have you browsed to the wiki? [15:46:19] 06I didn't and the person who did isn't available so I have to figure out wtheck this thing is doing [15:46:34] point the browser to the wiki [15:46:36] what happens? [15:47:26] 06It says: MediaWiki has been successfully installed. [15:47:26] [15:47:26] Consult the User's Guide for information on using the wiki software. [15:47:39] 06The user guide is left wanting [15:47:42] you have a LocalSettings.php on config folder [15:47:51] move it to root [15:48:00] 06There is no LocalSettings.php file anywhere on the hard drive [15:48:05] no, it is already placed [15:48:12] do you have an edit tab? [15:48:17] 06There is only two files in config folder [15:48:32] hi [15:48:35] 06Yes there is an edit [15:49:19] what extension or option do I miss when I receive this "{{#if:|view|v}}|" in mine article? [15:49:39] 06I figured I could copy the DefaultSetings.php file and make a LocalSettings.php file from it [15:51:12] phydude: It's probably sufficient to require_once the DefaultSettings.php and then just set overrides. [15:51:28] quintindoest: The ParserFunctions extension. [15:51:38] thank you [15:51:47] sounds good [15:51:59] phydude, it looks as you already had it installed... [15:52:05] It does [15:52:50] 03(mod) SVG image should have link to PNG version - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6834 (10alexander_berlin) [15:53:25] 06I shouldn't change the DefaultSettings.php file right?01 [15:54:49] I'd like to have a .mov stream (from a QuickTime Streaming Server) embedded within a wiki page. Possible? /me reads http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Embed_Media#QuickTime but wonders whether [15:54:58] * whether that's definitive [15:57:12] ok, i went with the whole template business above [15:57:16] but i'm getting problems [15:57:27] http://wiki.lenary.co.uk/wiki/Template:External [15:57:30] is the template [15:57:39] it's fucked from what i see [15:58:19] can anyone help? [15:58:52] lenary, have you parserfunctions installed? [15:59:33] Reedy: i think so... [15:59:41] if not, what do i do? [15:59:54] ah [15:59:54] 03(mod) Namespace dropdown on Special:Import is confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15908 (10mikelifeguard) [15:59:55] install it? :P [15:59:56] i don't [15:59:58] brb [15:59:59] thats why then [15:59:59] lol [16:00:12] that's hard w/o ssh access [16:00:16] ftp? [16:00:17] which i'll get tonite [16:00:31] copy down local settings, edit, uploadback, and add folder for extension? [16:00:59] nah [16:01:01] i can't get any [16:01:06] over controlled school [16:01:11] lol [16:01:25] mind you [16:01:32] with a mac their proxy server doesn't work [16:01:43] except to stop any POSTs over HTTPS [16:01:58] and any out-of protocol connections [16:02:03] like IMAP and the like [16:02:14] lenary, are you allowing html?? [16:02:37] yeah [16:02:50] i can only do stuff through my web browser [16:02:53] nothing more [16:03:00] webssh client? [16:03:03] but then [16:03:06] no, i mean allowing html in the wikitext [16:03:07] thats still client side [16:03:22] Platonides: i will sort that [16:03:25] but yes, i am [16:03:38] then your anyway... as no one external can edit a page, i'm not that bothered [16:03:38] grr why is the redirect dump in a different format than the all-titles dump [16:03:40] *lenary thinks [16:03:43] are you sure? [16:03:51] Platonides: i'll check tonight [16:03:56] i just sorted all that last night [16:03:59] in about 2 hours [16:04:00] i see the edit page... [16:04:07] Platonides: can you edit [16:04:09] oh shit [16:04:15] *lenary will sort it [16:04:21] as for now, can you not edit anything [16:04:23] yeah [16:04:25] *Reedy just aded [16:04:42] someone edited [16:04:43] http://wiki.lenary.co.uk/index.php?title=Template%3AExternal&diff=58&oldid=57 [16:04:54] Thats me [16:05:10] I editconflicted with you :) [16:05:14] heh [16:05:39] Reedy: thanks [16:05:44] does anyone know of a guide/article that explain good ways to use categories/subcategories for structuring information like system documentation ? [16:05:49] 03(NEW) Import may link to the wrong location - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15918 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Export/Import; (mikelifeguard) [16:06:12] *grahamperrin finds http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Quicktime [16:06:41] Does Extension:Quicktime allow embedding of a movie that's streamed from a QTSS server? [16:06:49] Reedy: have fun [16:06:55] haha [16:06:56] also, i protected it [16:07:24] anyone have ideas about why Extension:AutomaticREMOTE_USER might not be working for me? [16:09:04] cfedde: it might be racist [16:09:23] *lenary thinks ppl should say "sensible ideas" instead of "ideas" [16:09:29] haha [16:09:29] fox news fan? [16:10:06] no [16:10:10] just an annoying person really [16:10:39] We all have our hobbies I guess. :-) [16:12:37] yep [16:15:28] ha [16:15:36] new wiki rights on their way [16:15:52] 03(mod) Descriptive error messages for Special:Import - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15907 (10mikelifeguard) [16:16:06] hello brion [16:16:38] oy [16:20:55] guys, how would i grant special privelidges, but only on a certain namespace? [16:21:30] for a certain group of users? [16:23:00] 03(mod) Special:Export output missing XML encoding - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15914 (10jpatokal) [16:29:36] !userrights [16:29:36] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [16:29:40] 03(mod) Special:Export output missing XML encoding - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15914 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [16:29:42] lenary, ^ [16:30:25] Reedy: nah, i found something [16:30:28] eventually [16:30:33] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Using_custom_namespaces [16:30:42] along with the two variables listed there [16:30:59] 03(mod) Spurious XML encoding declaration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15497 +comment (10jpatokal) [16:31:28] turns out that my auth scheme was not even configured in the virtserver. [16:31:47] *cfedde crawls back under his rock [16:32:08] cfedde: i told you it was racist [16:32:15] when you don't configure it correctly [16:32:27] gotta stroke it just right... [16:32:57] Hi, I am trying to replicate Wikipedia locally. What is the best hardware configuration to handle the full wikipedia (en) database: articles, edit history, and talk page. What is the best hardware configuration for such task. We need it for only one end user for scholarly research purpose [16:33:33] multicore cpu, quite abit of ram? :P [16:33:52] one user? Lots of disk. Not much else. [16:34:13] depends what the user is doing. [16:34:15] suppose it depends on your wanted response times too [16:34:22] I thought of 4 CPUs and 16 GB of RAM with 4 TB of space. Is this enough you thinkÉ [16:34:45] Start with a grade server class system Work your way up if it is too slow. [16:35:14] the dual quad core systems are pretty cheap anymore. [16:36:12] cfedde: Sorry but what do u mean by grade server (the intel one?). It is hard in school systems to upgrade during the term. The bureaucratic system would make it almost impossible to think of upgrade during the work. We have to plan for it and get the approval to start [16:36:40] so there's this article that was page-move vandalized, then moved back, then the redirect was deleted (all within a few minutes) [16:37:07] ok fine but why does it show up in the enwiki-20081008-redirect.sql dump [16:37:20] when that happened in july 13 [16:37:55] Reedy: We need a decent response time. May you please suggest a configuration or an idea? [16:38:08] in other words i'm curious how reliable the data is [16:38:14] I suspect, with what you were suggesting, it should be fine [16:38:29] If the load was to be more than 1 user, it might need more hardware then [16:38:43] I noticed personally putting memcached on sped up a wiki i run quite a lot [16:38:55] trac: I'm talking something like http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/en/WF05a/15351-15351-3328412-241644-241475-3232017.html [16:39:08] Thanks Reedy and cfedde [16:39:43] or maybe i shoul ask this in wikimedia-tech instead (but it's the same people in both channels, mehhh) [16:40:23] I will check their configurations and if I got other questions I will be back :) I will make sure to acknowledge the channel help as well in our reporting. Have a nice day [16:40:54] my own opinion is that vendor does not matter much. Go for price per spec [16:41:05] it also lists redirects in namespace -1 (special: liek whut) [16:44:34] or wait this seems to actually list the target of the redirect by name, and the redirect itself only by number? [16:44:46] that's no good :S [16:45:38] guess i have to wait for the bigger dump to finish [16:47:35] someone magic me up a medieval themed Skin, kthanks [17:58:49] hello al [17:58:52] *all [17:58:57] hi pplz [17:59:14] Can anyone take a look at something for me? [17:59:50] I'm having an issue on www.xtracycle.com/longtailtech that the navigation links (article, discussion, edit, etc) don't work correctly. [18:00:11] anyone an idea why mediawiki cannot read any passwords? setting password manually in the mysql or let me send a password by email doesn't help at all. it sill says - wrong password! [18:00:23] More specifically, the only one that works is the current page you are on. So when you initially load a page, only the article link works [18:00:39] darky: you have to set them through mediawiki [18:00:47] it encrypts them [18:01:13] see maintenance/changePassword.php [18:01:13] should work by 'lost password?' and mysql statement 'update USER set user_password=md5(concat(user_id,'-',md5('newpassword'))) where user_name = "Benutzername";' [18:01:17] shouldn't it? [18:02:03] no idea [18:02:49] jason__: works fine for me, I think [18:04:15] cirwin - it may have not loaded the correct skin .. [18:04:27] is there an "xtracycle every day adventures" logo across the top [18:04:29] it's Monobook for me [18:04:43] hm. what browser/os are you on? [18:04:43] yes [18:04:46] firefox 3 [18:04:52] with OS X / Safari it doesn't work for me [18:04:55] nor with ffx2 [18:05:07] i'm also using ff3 - doesn't work [18:05:17] if u press directly on the link it does not react [18:05:20] just a bit UNDER the link [18:06:32] i just noticed in ff2 that there is a 2-3 px tall area at the bottom of the buttons that works [18:06:41] jup same here [18:06:42] with ff3 [18:06:57] *cirwin|organisin must be looking at the wrong problem [18:07:02] works fine in ff3 and opera [18:07:05] aafict [18:08:14] jason__: it might be because the actions portlet and actions portlet divs overlap [18:08:22] err [18:08:29] actions and personal [18:09:30] WINNER! [18:09:39] thank you overlordq and firebug [18:09:52] as soon as i moved the personal div up 15px, the buttons work fine [18:16:05] 03dale * r41885 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fixed advanced search bug [18:20:57] Anybody in a code reviewy mood? [18:28:09] I'm trying to hide h1.firstHeading only on select pages in ns-0, with a CSS class that will be called in a template on these pages, but I'm not sure how to specify the syntax. Anyone? Or is there a better way to hide firstHeading on a per-page basis? Note, this is only on certain pages, not all pages in that namespace. [18:28:53] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NoTitle ? [18:29:10] tried that... messes up other, special pages [18:29:20] Oh, that was you [19:03:35] 03(mod) Successful login message should not be displayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15911 -easy ; +comment (10nsk) [19:04:26] how hard would it be to add a "hide redirects" to Special:Allpages [19:05:41] Charitwo probably not very [19:07:01] Charitwo, put a bugzilla requst in, sure it'll get done quickly [19:07:28] need to search before I create, make sure there's not something similar already open/closed [19:10:01] 03(mod) Successful login message should not be displayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15911 (10brion) [19:11:13] 03(mod) make #time work with pre-1970 dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11686 (10N/A) [19:13:59] 14(WFM) Protect reason text should be in italics in Special:Log/protect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15774 +comment (10stevend811) [19:21:20] * [19:27:33] 03dale * r41886 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/includes/specials/MV_SpecialExport.php: bug in charachters for xml output [19:27:38] 03(mod) make #time work with pre-1970 dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11686 (10brion) [19:29:04] 03(mod) Import may link to the wrong location - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15918 +comment (10innocentkiller) [19:30:09] hi alles [19:31:12] 03(mod) make #time work with pre-1970 dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11686 (10brion) [19:31:21] hi Nikerabbit [19:38:08] 03(mod) Special:SpecialPages doesn't list Special: UserRights when it should - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15795 (10stevend811) [19:40:21] 03erik * r41887 10/trunk/extensions/PlayerStatsGrabber/PlayerStatsGrabber.i18n.php: add privacy note, copyedit some messages [19:44:21] Mike_lifeguard: Ping. [19:44:26] guys, i have a template problem i'd like help with [19:44:27] http://wiki.lenary.co.uk/wiki/Template:External [19:44:31] pong [19:44:48] it should work to the best of my knowledge, but isn't [19:44:51] Mike_lifeguard: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:SpecialPages [19:45:05] That still doesn't show "User rights management" for you? [19:45:15] nope [19:45:18] it is basically a template for using external images with [19:45:34] Mike_lifeguard: Try bypassing your cache? [19:45:53] Mike_lifeguard: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UserRights has no error message? [19:46:24] wait [19:46:30] i might have found a run-around [19:46:50] MZMcBride: still no [19:46:54] I don't have an error message on this page [19:46:59] FunPika :) [19:47:07] FunPika: No, I have access to it, it's just not listed where it should be [19:47:21] o_O [19:47:51] weird....sysops are not listed as having anything in $wgAddGroups [19:47:53] Mike_lifeguard ah, you had problem finding it in special:specialpages too ? :( [19:47:56] or $wgRemoveGroups [19:48:13] FunPika defualt group, so probably in the default setting file ? [19:48:14] Mike_lifeguard: What rights can you assign there? [19:48:27] +flood, right? Anything else? [19:48:34] no that's it [19:48:49] That may be the issue. Let's test... [19:49:00] uh ? :o [19:49:05] of course... the $addgroupstoself [19:49:09] however it should check if the user can add/remove things, not whether they have userrights/userrights-interwiki [19:49:16] bot, sysop, bureaucrat, checkuser, steward, board vote admin, importer, transwiki importer, developer, IP block exempt, flood, oversight <- can add that [19:49:25] *FunPika never tested that scenario... [19:49:26] 03(mod) make #time work with pre-1970 dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11686 (10N/A) [19:49:36] FunPika: nobody thought about it I guess [19:49:39] Mike_lifeguard: Right, but knowing that makes the bug much easier to solve. ;-) [19:49:51] ok, good :) [19:49:52] Rather than "it broke, see?" ;-) [19:50:04] however it's off to class for me now [19:50:08] _o/ [19:50:10] the problem is that it doesn't list the page if you can only change "your" rights [19:50:11] *FunPika has an idea though... [19:50:34] nvm... [19:50:40] should be painfully obvious anyways [19:51:04] because of UserrightsPage::userCanExecute() checks for $this->isself which is false when checking it from Special:SpecialPages [19:51:51] 03aaron * r41888 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/Subversion.php: Fix typo [19:51:54] ialex: Can you write that down in the bug report, please? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15795 :-) [19:51:57] 03(FIXED) English Wikipedia never finishes loading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1693 +comment (10xiong) [19:53:22] 03(mod) Import may link to the wrong location - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15918 (10mikelifeguard) [19:53:40] MZMcBride: and if i'm fixing it? :) [19:53:55] ialex: Then nevermind me. ;-) [19:56:48] 03siebrand * r41889 10/trunk/extensions/PlayerStatsGrabber/ (3 files): [19:56:48] * more message copy editing [19:56:48] * message ID consistency [19:56:48] * stylize.php some more [20:04:04] 03aaron * r41890 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/svnImport.php: Remove $lastRev hack [20:04:21] 03aaron * r41891 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/Subversion.php: Revert r41590, breaks import [20:05:28] 10852 timezone [20:05:31] What the fuck. [20:06:09] Err what? [20:06:18] 03(mod) OmegaWiki's timezone should be set to GMT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10852 summary (10public) [20:06:20] That's was the bug summary. "timezone" [20:06:28] -'s. * [20:07:23] !b 10852 [20:07:23] --mwbot-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10852 [20:07:34] I think that wins for least descriptive bug summary. Second place is "never finishes loading" [20:08:01] good effort [20:08:36] MZMcBride: Well summaries like "X doesn't work" are not ideal either :P [20:08:47] True. [20:09:04] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10719 <-- Is this bug really a blocker? [20:09:06] 13508 php errors are gone [20:09:14] How about that one [20:09:20] Also read the bug description [20:09:22] !b 13508 [20:09:22] --mwbot-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13508 [20:09:33] I've been going through the old bugs and fixing their summaries and updating them. [20:09:37] *MZMcBride clicks. [20:09:52] Hahaha. [20:09:59] fluffy. Cute. [20:10:32] As you probably figured, that bug was filed after an IRC discussion [20:12:25] 03ialex * r41892 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/specials/SpecialUserrights.php): (bug 15795) Special:Userrights is now listed on Special:SpecialPages when user can only his rights [20:12:49] 03(FIXED) Special:SpecialPages doesn't list Special: UserRights when it should - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15795 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [20:16:30] 03aaron * r41893 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeRevisionView.php: Use scroll box for paths if needed [20:18:43] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4141 <-- Change someone fix that summary? [20:21:33] <^demon> MZMcBride: The bug doesn't even make sense. [20:22:12] Yes. That's probably the reason it's so difficult to summarize it. ;-) [20:22:14] brion: does the oversight table have that new index? [20:22:25] ^demon: By the way... are you looking for easy bugs to resolve? :-) [20:22:51] 03(FIXED) Add bugmonday keyword - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15843 +comment (10brion) [20:22:53] AaronSchulz: mm, probably not [20:22:54] <^demon> MZMcBride: If it's interesting enough :-p [20:23:12] ^demon: Define "interesting." [20:23:54] bugzilla:2477 – add table of contents to Special:Watchlist/edit [20:23:59] That's a nice one. [20:24:24] 03(mod) Create a template suggestion tool which suggests templates relevant to the article category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4141 summary; +comment (10brion) [20:24:53] Bug 1306 is just a simple patch review. Bug 2443 is just a re-commit with adding parser tests. [20:25:11] <^demon> brion: Whoo, better summary :-) [20:26:29] *brion looks at 1306 [20:27:16] !b 1306 [20:27:16] --mwbot-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1306 [20:27:36] magic :o [20:27:50] i think the $wgUser->isLoggedIn() check can be dropped; a non-logged user will never pass the canReceiveEmail() or canSendEmail() checks [20:28:03] hypothetically if we wanted them to be able to send/receive we'd put those in :) [20:28:31] and *probably* canSendEmail() should encapsulate the check on $wgEnableUserEmail [20:28:49] <^demon> Does the invalidateCache() call need to exist? The toolbox wouldn't be cached for a logged-in user anyway, and the logged-out user will never see the link anyway? [20:29:11] <^demon> (remove one of the redundant anyway's, your call which) [20:29:18] so now that we all have SUL can we add an option to make all user prefs global [20:29:18] well here's an example scenario: [20:29:25] interface language at least [20:29:36] user B has email option disabled [20:29:44] user A visits user B's user page [20:29:50] user B's user page is cached in user A's browser [20:30:06] user B enables user-to-user email or gets his address confirmed, so he can now receive user-to-user emails [20:30:11] user A visits user B's user page a second time [20:30:24] <^demon> Forgot about browser caches :-p [20:30:26] if we don't invalidate the page, then user A still sees the page without the link [20:30:29] :) [20:30:29] <^demon> I was thinking server-side. [20:30:33] aha [20:30:35] here i am [20:30:39] ok, i have a template [20:30:52] how do i stop it being inserted in a

block [20:31:18] 03(mod) Displaying current range blocks on Special: IPBlockList on search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14634 summary; +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [20:31:20] Speaking of caching... can the ridiculous smaxage please be reduced? [20:31:55] () [20:34:15] MZMcBride: i think the correct fix there is not to reduce it insanely, but to actually purge the damn things on edit [20:34:46] Well, is there any reason for it to be set so high? [20:34:53] The default is far lower, at least. [20:35:36] MZMcBride: can you help? [20:35:39] The default smaxage is 18000 seconds (.20 days). [20:35:56] So, I guess I'm wondering why it was increased so insanely. :-) [20:35:59] lenary: Hmm? [20:36:06] i have a template [20:36:09] lenary: Got a link? [20:36:16] i don't want a

tag insterted around it [20:36:29] http://wiki.lenary.co.uk/wiki/User:Lenary [20:36:37] 03(mod) Suppress the "email this user" link in the toolbox if said user has opted not to/can't receive emails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1306 (10brion) [20:36:45] basically, the second two boxes are different to the first [20:36:56] because of this p declaration [20:36:57] MZMcBride: presumably so they get cached longer ;) [20:37:11] ;-) [20:37:53] 03aaron * r41894 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialIpblocklist.php: Fix ipv6 block searches [20:38:50] lenary: http://wiki.lenary.co.uk/wiki/Template:External?action=edit [20:38:55] Go there. Change: [20:39:00] }} [20:39:00] [20:39:12] To: }} [20:39:17] thanks [20:39:24] very much [20:39:39] hrm [20:40:13] hmmmmm, the WikiDB extension looks useful to me, does somebody have any knowledge about it? my first question would be, does it support any caching at all? [20:40:22] because I don't expect my data to change much [20:41:10] 03(mod) Reduce smaxage on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15910 (10brion) [20:41:50] fyi, i also removed all the other linebreaks [20:42:04] and the syntax is sorted [20:43:08] 03(mod) Upgrade the Doxygen on svn.wikimedia.org to 1.5.6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15255 (10brion) [20:43:28] *lenary thinks it's easier just to specify a width in an inline sytle [20:43:32] brion: > A more permanent fix should be actually doing purges of the standard raw URLs [20:43:32] for standard-pattern CSS/JS pages on edit... [20:43:38] the only way to do that is to change the URL [20:43:50] which means invalidating squid cache of every page on the wiki for each edit to those pages [20:44:26] 03(FIXED) Add "dumpHTML" as "component" for the product " MediaWiki extensions" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15265 +comment (10brion) [20:44:27] (if you tell a client they can cache the page for 31 days, and then go back later and say they can't, they won't know that, for 31 days...unless you use must-revalidate, but then that kinda defeats the purpose) [20:44:44] Splarka: s-maxage and maxage are different [20:44:49] best solution is maxage/smaxage for 7 days [20:44:50] s-maxage is for shared caches [20:44:53] maxage is for clients [20:45:02] sure, but they have the similar effect [20:45:03] so we want our proxies to cache it for a long time [20:45:08] (where we can easily purge it) [20:45:15] so [20:45:18] whereas we might want clients to cache it much shorter [20:45:20] you're saying, set max-age to like 1 day [20:45:26] and s-maxage to 31 days.. [20:45:28] mebbe [20:45:29] and a way to purge server-side? [20:45:36] *Splarka tells domas on you [20:45:51] 03aaron * r41895 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialIpblocklist.php: [20:45:51] More cleanup: [20:45:51] * Fix ipv6 range searches too [20:45:51] * Use nicer ip checks [20:45:51] * Trim address [20:48:11] brion: how does it set it anyways? maxage and smaxage are ignored from the API.. (but work on other mw installations) [20:48:14] http://web-sniffer.net/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fw%2Fapi.php%3Faction%3Dquery%26meta%3Dsiteinfo%26smaxage%3D999999%26maxage%3D999999&submit=Submit&http=1.1&gzip=yes&type=GET&uak=0 [20:48:22] > Cache-Control: private, s-maxage=0, max-age=0, must-revalidate [20:50:47] 03(mod) Create a channel on Wikimedia IRC that logs newly created/ unified accounts on all wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15276 +comment (10brion) [20:51:14] Splarka: Yes, there's a very weird bug that causes maxage and smaxage to not work on WMF wikis while it does work on local installs [20:51:18] Squid interference I think [20:52:04] RoanKattouw: our squid is set up to transform the s-maxage appropriately for wiki output so that *our* proxies see the s-maxage, but don't ship it out to the rest of the world (because we can't purge every *other* proxy in the world, just our own) [20:52:13] it's special-cased i think to not do this processing on raw.php [20:52:23] er, action=raw [20:52:25] 03(mod) Create a channel on Wikimedia IRC that logs newly created/ unified accounts on all wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15276 (10sam) [20:52:26] Right... [20:52:29] possibly api.php needs this special-case as well [20:52:35] But how about maxage, shouldn't that still be set? [20:52:39] Yeah, possibly [20:52:53] Although the API frequently sets both to 0 (for error messages) [20:52:54] MZMcBride: i eventually sorted it by adding a width declaration [20:53:15] oh, roan is around! damn, wish I had some API bugs to bug you with [20:53:29] <^demon> I do :-) [20:53:48] Go right ahead [20:53:55] There's 16 listed on bugzilla ;) [20:53:58] <^demon> http://tinyurl.com/4xxcd8 [20:54:16] Yeah, I know [20:54:21] lol [20:54:31] But I have an excuse for putting off fixing every one of them :P [20:54:40] <^demon> Roan: By the way, I was re-reading the encoding-type stuff for XML....I might've been wrong the first time around (it's a rather confusing document :-p) [20:54:43] Oh wait maybe not *all* of them [20:54:48] Right [20:55:03] Cause someone's complaining about that change on another bug now [20:55:56] half are assigned to you Roan ;P [20:56:17] Only half? [20:56:34] i cant count it seems [20:56:43] 11/16 [20:56:48] Whoa, we even have an API bug that's assigned to Tim :O [20:56:50] *Reedy fails and needs sleep [20:57:01] Reedy: 12, actually, if you count the one assigned to wikibugs [20:57:14] hmm, but its not you personally [20:57:15] That one's actually old enough to predate the automatic assignment era [20:57:43] and the patch has been applied on that one... [20:57:43] <^demon> Probably from siebrand's assign-all-bugs spree a few weeks ago :-p [20:58:25] Reedy: Yes. The remaining bug is really just a cosmetic one [20:58:30] heh [20:58:44] "Check whether every query returns an empty set in the same format and fix those that don't" [20:58:47] *Reedy is waiting for Vasiliev VV to get round to "Access QueryPage-based special pages via API" [20:58:52] 03(mod) Retiring the developer user group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12569 +shell; +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [20:58:57] Yeah I'm quite curious about that one [20:59:04] And action=upload of course [20:59:25] <^demon> Did Bryan's new upload code ever make it live (ie, is Special:Upload using it now?) [20:59:28] bug 15261 (Trimmed multibyte chars result in invalid XML) is a nasty one thoug [20:59:38] I don't know, I guess you'd have to ask him [20:59:47] brion, shouldnt there be like a IRC component under wikimedia on bugzilla? Or would site requests cover that? [20:59:53] 03(mod) Suppress the "email this user" link in the toolbox if said user has opted not to/can't receive emails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1306 (10mail) [20:59:58] Assuming he keeps track of which of his commits get reverted [21:00:33] Hmm I'll slap the bugmonday keyword on a couple of more or less trivial API bugs, which really means I'll be fixing them on Tuesday :P [21:00:51] better late than never ;) [21:01:07] *^demon wonders how much MW would blow up if $wgTitle was an object other than Title :-p [21:01:18] <^demon> Well, a bunch....but where, and how fast. [21:01:19] ^demon: From my experience, very badly [21:01:43] I know because the API has $wgTitle = null; which gave me quite a headache debugging action=edit [21:02:23] Turned out some crazy-ass method in Parser.php was overwriting $this->mTitle (which had been set) with $wgTitle under certain circumstances [21:03:03] Current behavior is even weirder: after invoking some Parser methods with $wgTitle = null;, $wgTitle is suddenly a Title object referring to [[Msg]] [21:03:16] <^demon> wtf? [21:04:06] 14(WFM) More information in hookaborted API error needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14261 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [21:04:10] Tim probably knows why that is [21:04:20] If I'm bored one day, I might ask him [21:04:27] One down, 15 to go [21:05:26] ^demon: That ForeignAPIRequest patch of yours (bug 14024): what does it do and how well does it work? [21:05:50] <^demon> Works a lot like the ForeignAPIRepo.... [21:05:54] <^demon> Functional, but not pretty. [21:06:13] 03(mod) List type queries treat empty datasets inconsistently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11588 -patch +bugmonday (10roan.kattouw) [21:06:31] OK, I don't know what ForeignAPIRepo does either, so what does it do? [21:06:40] Fetch another site's api.php ? [21:06:44] <^demon> Yep. [21:06:47] Right [21:06:53] <^demon> That's what my ForiengApiRequest stuff does. [21:07:04] <^demon> ForeignApiRepo lets you use a foreign file repo (like commons) locally, via the API. [21:07:06] So theoretically, I could write a module that acts as an API proxy [21:07:18] Something Brion has some issues with, IIRC [21:07:31] <^demon> Theoretically... [21:07:55] Something I've set about this before, I think: why not use the existing interwiki system to facilitate this? [21:08:18] <^demon> I was thinking of scrapping that entirely though, as MattJohnston was (supposedly?) working on some more unified "Do foreign stuff" code (via API, DB, etc) [21:08:28] ForeignApiRepo is awesome. :D [21:08:40] Hmm [21:08:41] <^demon> ForeignApiRepo is fragile, and breaks easily :-) [21:08:55] 03mrzman * r41896 10/trunk/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php: Fix some profiling errors in wfGetSiteNotice() if no sitenotice is defined [21:09:00] OK so how good is this ForeignAPIRequest class? [21:09:07] <^demon> It _works_ [21:09:15] <^demon> Needs some nicer wrappers to it, etc. [21:09:33] <^demon> !b 14024 [21:09:33] --mwbot-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14024 [21:10:36] <^demon> I wrote that almost 2 months ago, had to look at the patch again :-p [21:11:15] ^demon: I've also got an old patch lying around: bug 11430, "Proposed patch v3" [21:11:26] 03hashar * r41897 10/trunk/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php: Document wfVarDump() [21:11:50] It's 3 months old as of tomorrow, therefore hopelessly out of date, it's also 63KB and goes with a 3KB text file listing what it does [21:12:51] 03(ASSIGNED) list=recentchanges should have rcrelated parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15552 +bugmonday; +comment (10roan.kattouw) [21:13:38] <^demon> I've come to the conclusion that "Interwiki Link" is a major misnomer :-p [21:13:52] It is [21:13:54] 03(ASSIGNED) write an API module that interfaces with Checkuser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15129 +bugmonday (10roan.kattouw) [21:13:55] <^demon> It should really be called "Shorthand external link to theoretically anything" [21:14:13] 03(mod) Extension special pages not recognized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15912 (10JSchulz_4587) [21:15:30] hello, I have a quick template question [21:15:42] Hmm? [21:16:00] I have a url as a param in a template, which works most of the time, but if there is an equal sign it breaks [21:16:02] Hmm, we have 57 open bugs that are tagged as 'easy' ... [21:16:05] how do I escape that [21:16:16] RaySl: {{mytemplate|1=http://whatever}} [21:16:19] *Reedy suspects not so easy [21:16:28] *RoanKattouw knows it really is that easy [21:16:32] RoanKattouw: There are quite a few ancient bugs that would be trivial to resolve, if you're offering. ;-) [21:16:39] <^demon> RoanKattouw: A lot of them aren't that easy :-p [21:16:47] The latter is kind of my point [21:16:55] I don't believe we really have 57 easy bugs [21:17:03] RoanKattouw: I'll give that a shot, thanks [21:17:18] <^demon> I think truly easy things don't stay open long :-p [21:17:21] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1999 <-- This one, for example. [21:17:26] rule of thumb: always name template parameters that accept raw html or URLs [21:17:35] ^demon: {{fact}}. [21:17:54] <^demon> MZMcBride {{cite ^demon}} [21:18:04] Red link. Sorry. [21:18:14] There's a one-line CSS change that's been sitting in Bugzilla for... [21:18:17] WP:OR [21:18:32] 30 months? [21:18:39] <^demon> MZMcBride: [[Because I Said So]] [21:18:41] What's April 2005 to now? [21:18:57] 3 years and [21:18:58] RoanKattouw: not working, here is an example: {{blog|[[John McCain|McCain]]: "I'm the underdog. I've always been the underdog..." [http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5994703 Read]|01:28 PM|Politics}} [21:18:59] Yeah, about 30 months. [21:19:05] Oh, no, longer. [21:19:06] <^demon> 42 months? [21:19:07] the = in the url breaks it [21:19:10] Good Heavens. [21:19:17] {{blog|1=[[John McCain|McCain]]: "I'm the underdog. I've always been the underdog..." [http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5994703 Read]|01:28 PM|Politics}} [21:19:20] as he said [21:19:30] the first equals is always the delimiter between the name of the parameter and the value [21:19:38] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1941 <-- This is the bug, by the way. [21:19:42] MZMcBride: 42 months [21:19:53] 42 months. :-( [21:19:56] LOL [21:19:57] so what you've got is a parameter named: {{{[[John McCain|McCain]]: "I'm the underdog. I've always been the underdog..." [http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id}}} with value "5994703 Read]" [21:20:00] textarea { font-family: monospace; } [21:20:30] hi [21:20:36] I'm shocked it's taking 42 months to add that line [21:20:50] Splarka: retrying, 1 sec [21:20:55] how can active the new skin for visotor to? [21:21:08] better to name the parameters in such a case, like {{blog|url=}} [21:21:11] because if i log out go back the default skin [21:21:23] <^demon> RoanKattouw: I know! If only someone was around with commit access.... [21:21:38] *MZMcBride glares at the committers in the room. [21:21:46] *RoanKattouw quickly looks away [21:21:51] <^demon> You know, I would and all, but I just clocked out of work. [21:21:57] any idea? [21:22:10] Well I would too, but I gotta get some sleep [21:22:17] !skin [21:22:17] --mwbot-- Overview: . Skin usage: . Gallery of CSS styles: . Writing your own: [21:22:19] Bah. [21:22:44] RoanKattouw: Can I bug you about it tomorrow? :-) [21:22:50] 03(mod) Extension special pages not recognized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15912 (10bertrand.grondin) [21:22:55] MZMcBride: No, I won't be back until Monday [21:23:05] cya Roan [21:23:12] S-i-A: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDefaultUserOptions [21:23:14] Fair enough. 42 months + four days won't hurt anything. [21:23:40] omg my textbox is proportional, I can't do fancy ascii art! MZM! [21:23:47] [21:23:50] 03(mod) Message bar for changes to userspace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13985 +comment (10brion) [21:24:14] That bug is a dupe,. [21:24:18] -, * [21:24:23] Which one? [21:24:30] 13985. [21:24:56] To which one? [21:25:07] Looking... [21:25:28] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1876 [21:25:49] No it's not [21:25:51] At least the summary suggests it is... [21:26:01] 13985 covers the entire userspace [21:26:37] 03hashar * r41898 10/branches/hashar/ (73 files in 30 dirs): Move my branch stuff to a subdirectory named 'old_stuff' [21:26:56] 03(NEW) Parser should cache repeated images on the same page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15919 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (mrzmanwiki) [21:27:05] 03(mod) make #time work with pre-1970 dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11686 (10brion) [21:27:38] RoanKattouw: Oh, well... a notifications bar for the entire userspace is simply silly. [21:27:50] That's why we have watchlists. [21:28:16] heh, 11686, epoch fail! [21:28:34] !b 11686 [21:28:34] --mwbot-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11686 [21:28:50] 03hashar * r41899 10/branches/hashar/syslog/: branch for sysloging work [21:28:53] Do you have wikibugs on /ignore, Roan? [21:29:04] No [21:29:06] Oh wait [21:29:10] *headpalm* [21:30:10] 03(mod) make #time work with pre-1970 dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11686 (10brion) [21:30:25] 03(mod) Parser should cache repeated images on the same page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15919 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [21:31:26] Splarka: i active the new skin, but if i logout come back to old skins [21:32:10] 03(mod) Parser should cache repeated images on the same page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15919 (10brion) [21:32:44] 03hashar * r41900 10/branches/hashar/old_stuff/: migrate svn:ignore on branche/hashar/old_stuff [21:33:33] 03(mod) SVG image should have link to PNG version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6834 (10Platonides) [21:33:42] 03hashar * r41901 10/branches/hashar/syslog/includes/syslog.php: A basic syslog class. Work in progress. [21:33:44] Splarka: thanks that worked [21:34:17] This one is _hella_ annoying: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2679 [21:34:36] Nobody _ever_ notices the categories at the absolute bottom of the page. [21:34:51] Shouldn't be too hard, right? [21:34:59] I've certainly never noticed them. [21:35:02] You may not even have to move the box, duplicating it would suffice [21:35:20] Open for 39 months. :-( [21:35:27] Hello! I think i found a bug. [21:35:39] Duplicating might make things look goofy / awkward. [21:35:44] oh really? [21:35:49] Yup [21:35:58] Planning to tell us? [21:36:10] MrZ-man: Want a large, fresh, delicious cookie? [21:36:14] *Reedy guesses its with mediawiki [21:36:14] Yes [21:36:23] Cream: What? [21:36:30] MZMcBride: 2679? [21:36:34] After a rename on wikipedia, from User:Cream to User:Mixwell [21:36:38] MrZ-man: Yes. [21:36:49] did you just say "hella" MZM... ew [21:36:56] I was loggin in during the rename, and i didn't know my user changed, and i still edited. [21:37:09] Splarka: Yeah, bra. :-) [21:37:10] Now i am mysteriously able to still login with the same password [21:37:56] S-i-A: try setting http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDefaultSkin ? [21:38:02] 03(mod) SVG image should have link to PNG version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6834 (10brion) [21:38:14] Hi everyone. I have a media wiki installation at http://www.straylightrun.org/wiki/ that is a fresh installation. I set up my domain to point http://wiki.straylightrun.org/ to the /wiki directory. However I get two very different pages when clicking the above URLs. I believe this to be a simple fix, I just can't find the correct *.php file to edit or the correct place to edit. Can someone help? [21:38:29] (sorry for the long post.) [21:39:11] freakyp: Your problem is that WIKI.straylightrun.org points to WIKI.straylightrun.org/wiki/index.php while it should point to WWW.straylightrun.org/wiki/index.php [21:39:14] You need to fix that [21:39:20] Cream: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Cream [21:39:42] Not really a bug... [21:40:13] Splarka: i do that but if i log out, lost the new skins, and come back to old skin [21:40:14] Cream: Did you unify your account? Do you still have a Cream account on another WMF wiki? [21:40:18] roanKattouw: I'll take another look at that. [21:40:23] S-i-A: Press Ctrl+F5 [21:41:28] RoanKattouw: oh really :D [21:41:45] no iam not so stupied [21:42:10] I wouldn't say not knowing about Ctrl+F5 is stupid [21:42:15] A lot of people don't knwo [21:42:29] weird... [21:42:36] ctl+f5 is magic, it ain't obvious :) [21:42:54] RoanKattouw: that have nothing to do with my question, thanx [21:42:55] 03(mod) Extension special pages not recognized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15912 (10JSchulz_4587) [21:43:14] S-i-A: It does. A lot of skin problems go away with Ctrl+F5 [21:43:22] goddam it! [21:43:24] I remember! [21:43:30] It was trough SUL on commons [21:43:30] XD [21:44:01] lol [21:44:08] RoanKattouw again, have nothing to do with problem, is some thing with settings [21:44:37] S-i-A: I know. But after getting the settings right, you often have to do Ctrl+F5 to get stuff to work [21:44:43] well, $wgDefaultSkin sets the default skin if no preference is set, and $wgDefaultUserOptions lets you set options even for anon users, and both or either should affect anon users. [21:44:44] Skin-related stuff anyway [21:45:09] RoanKattouw: The subdomain is pointing to the propper folder. It's on a shared hosting plan so you get to the same folder by visiting: http://www.rcmaples.net/sr.org/wiki/ [21:45:14] so if you're setting it right it should work... [21:45:23] Splarka: who is that? [21:45:44] When you click that link, mediawiki cuts out all the jazz and tries to go to rcmaples.net/wiki/index.php which doesn't exist. [21:45:59] I don't know him, he just hangs around and takes photographs of us and writes in his little notepad [21:46:59] So I believe a path is setup somewhere in the mediawiki config file(s) that is telling what the parent directory structure is. [21:47:46] freakyp: $wgScriptPath and friends in LocalSettinsg.php [21:48:20] Alright. I'll take it from there and lookup proper syntax in MW's online help files. Thanks. [21:49:34] 03aaron * r41902 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): (bug 14634) Show range blocks for IPs [21:49:48] 03(FIXED) Displaying current range blocks on Special: IPBlockList on search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14634 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [21:53:15] AaronSchulz: messages.inc... [21:54:19] 03(mod) Extension special pages not recognized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15912 (10bertrand.grondin) [21:55:23] AaronSchulz, are you here [21:55:34] about FlaggedReview. [21:55:37] about to go eat soon [21:55:49] good lunch [21:56:15] Grondin: try adding echo('test test') to the start of efLoadFlaggedRevs() [21:56:16] most of extension use $wgExtensionFunctions [21:56:29] 03rotem * r41903 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Localization update. [21:56:30] ok [21:59:36] does it show? [22:00:06] no [22:00:14] I've added echo ('test test'); [22:00:20] nothing ! [22:00:50] oops : it shows [22:00:56] the function runs [22:01:02] sorry AaronSchulz [22:01:33] so efLoadFlaggedRevs() is called, and some pages are missing? [22:03:33] Special:Stableversions is not recognized as the others special pages of this extension [22:03:43] by example [22:06:34] Hello. I would like to ask about a problem with a MW 1.13 installation and '+' signs in URLs [22:06:50] I've added this code after the line 440, it's showed [22:07:06] but not after the line 452 [22:08:04] '+' signs are turned to '_' [22:08:59] Grondin: change it too print_r( $wgFlaggedRevsNamespaces ); [22:09:04] *to [22:10:16] ok [22:10:59] $wgLegalTitleChars .='+'; in LocalSettings.php does not seem to solve it, any idea? [22:11:37] added in line 436 : NOTHING [22:11:55] toniher: + signs in page names generally doesn't work [22:12:15] Grondin: that's a problem [22:12:18] because while it is a literal + in a pretty URL, in a query string, '+' is used for spaces [22:13:49] Skizzerz_Away: isn't there any way? for instance there is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C++ [22:13:53] AaronSchulz, but added in line 458, it displays array… [22:14:34] Try making it $wgLegalTitleChars[] = '+'; instead? [22:14:45] code adding just after $wgSpecialPages['LikedPages'] = 'LikedPages'; [22:14:45] } [22:15:53] it show Array ( [0] => 0 [1] => 12 [2] => 104 [3] => 106 [4] => 108 ) [22:16:14] or, no that won't work [22:16:17] *Skizzerz_Away doesn't know then [22:16:33] Grondin: and right before '$wgUseRCPatrol = true;' ? [22:18:21] it shows [22:18:54] and the array has elements? [22:19:28] Skizzerz_Away: I have found this -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(technical_restrictions)#Plus [22:19:37] that seems the only way to solve it [22:20:13] yeah [22:20:28] idem Array ( [0] => 0 [1] => 12 [2] => 104 [3] => 106 [4] => 108 ) [22:20:53] Grondin: replace '!empty' with 'count' [22:21:02] ok [22:21:07] then try the pages [22:21:36] thanks Skizzerz_Away for giving a hand! [22:23:11] AaronSchulz, no [22:23:24] special pages not recognized [22:24:16] I really don't understand why [22:24:44] right under 'if( !empty($wgFlaggedRevsNamespaces) ) {' add 'moo();' [22:26:11] brion: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Voice_of_All/Fun_stuff <--I just had to add that Family Guy quote on top [22:27:15] Fatal error: Call to undefined function moo() in /var/www/wiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php on line 441 [22:27:32] ok, so $wgSpecialPages is set [22:27:53] o_O [22:29:37] lol wisconsin [22:29:39] Grondin: what lang is this on [22:29:52] *Skizzerz_Away lives there [22:31:02] AaronSchulz, I've moved all $wgSpecialPages array before function efLoadFlaggedRevs() { [22:31:06] and it runs ! [22:33:03] AaronSchulz, I've move all the block after if( !empty($wgFlaggedRevsNamespaces) ) { [22:33:07] it runs [22:34:15] all special pages are now recognized [22:35:05] I thinks that the code must not be included into efLoadFlaggedRevs() function [22:36:22] ok, dinner [22:36:49] 03(mod) book construct binding group of small pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=382 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [22:37:03] good lunch AaronSchulz [22:37:11] I must go to bed [22:37:16] good night [22:44:34] Hello. I'm interested in defining a date in a page and then having the difference ("Two weeks ago") displayed when the page is rendered. [22:45:15] I see there are some currentdate magic words, which might let me do the math with expr(), but none of those magic words return values that can be compared for distance to other dates [22:45:26] (without calculating the day/month/year overflow myself) [22:45:29] any suggestions on what to do? [22:47:42] 03stipe * r41904 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (embedLibs/mv_flashEmbed.js mv_embed.js): Flowplayer works with local seeking [22:54:41] how can I see a list of the namespaces that are already available / in use on my Wiki? [22:54:45] cjb: peruse maybe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Date_mathematics_templates [22:55:09] lch: Special:Recentchanges dropdown list, or in Search/Preferences/Allpages/Prefixindex [22:55:21] (and many other special pages) [22:55:25] thanks [22:55:45] some require ParserFunctions #time [22:55:46] but I want the id numbers, too [22:55:56] where could I see those? [22:56:08] lch: view page source, heh [22:57:01] Splarka, is it the option id values? [22:57:14] [22:57:14] [22:57:15] etc [22:57:18] ic [22:57:19] yes [22:58:34] Splarka: hm, that's interesting, but I've having trouble finding anything that outputs a difference between two dates [22:59:08] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:TIMEDIFF ? [22:59:17] (not sure how it works, no instructions given) [22:59:32] see also: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions#.23time: [23:00:00] I am sure it is possible... if not terribly easy [23:00:17] TIMEDIFF looks promising, thanks. [23:02:12] here is an example of how dirty you can get: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:ParserFunctions#.23time_-_define_week.3F [23:02:19] {{#time:l j F Y|{{#ifexpr:{{#time:W}} - {{{1|1}}} > 0|-{{#expr:{{#time:W}} - {{{1|1}}}}}|+{{#expr:{{{1|1}}} -{{#time:W}}}}}} weeks +{{#expr:8 - {{#time:N}}}} days}} [23:02:29] gives you the date of the monday of the supplied numeric week [23:02:54] by calculating the diff from your current week number [23:03:09] thanks! I found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:DATEDIFF [23:03:14] which looks pretty perfect [23:03:17] k ^_^ [23:03:50] damn, contrary categories, heh [23:10:58] for the record and the logs: [23:11:00] Number of days since September 15 2008: [23:11:00] [23:11:01] {{DATEDIFF2|15 September 2008|{{#time:l}}}} [23:11:02] :) [23:11:08] Splarka: thanks! [23:11:20] heh [23:12:48] hm, now I wonder what to do when the date is in the future [23:12:55] since that's gonna return e.g. -10 [23:14:22] can I protect whole namespaces with standard MediaWiki or do I need some extension for that? [23:16:31] Yes, you can. [23:16:41] There's a variable for it in DefaultSettings.php. [23:20:41] oh, hm, I can't have a template expansion as the result of an #ifexpr? [23:21:26] {{#ifexpr: 1 > 0| {{foo}} }} [23:21:27] Sure. [23:21:41] oh. [23:22:28] 03(mod) Show category links above the edit box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2679 (10public) [23:25:29] thanks MZMcBride, I'll have a look around [23:27:22] Is there a way to specify that a page use some custom CSS?