[00:04:26] oooo! got a fancy codereview error trying to purge the diff [00:04:46] Mike_lifeguard: o_O [00:05:08] :O [00:05:14] oh come on its not that surprising :) [00:05:16] 03(mod) [PATCH] Nostalgia skin' s search box position makes Ajax suggestions difficult to click on - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15902 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [00:06:29] an error on a WMF wiki other than testwikipedia, how often does that happen? :P [00:06:33] ooh.... [00:06:42] SVN proxy error: then a backtrace [00:06:48] 03(NEW) SVN proxy error when purging diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15943 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (mikelifeguard) [00:07:17] http://rafb.net/p/3uW2xK35.html [00:09:35] FunPika: where most extensions would have friendly error messages, CodeReview just throws an exception :P [00:10:37] 03(mod) Cursor should be placed in the search box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1864 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [00:10:45] 03aaron * r41981 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/RatingHistory_body.php: Don't let clients use stale caches. Disabled output and use 'Not Modified' if client cache is good. [00:19:11] 03dale * r41982 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (3 files in 3 dirs): remove moved text layers (insted of leaving redirect) [00:36:07] PHP isn't that helpful: "PHP Warning: Module 'mysql' already loaded in Unknown on line 0" and "PHP Fatal error: [eAccelerator] eAccelerator 0.9.5.3 can not be loaded twice in Unknown on line 0" doesn't say me anything [00:38:44] I'll take that on the #PHP channel, sorry [00:53:37] I have completely forgotten the mysql superuser password. Is there any way to figure this out? [00:54:04] cryptic0: #mysql [00:54:08] cryptic0: Or google, for that matter. [00:54:30] Here, I'll be nice and even get you the link! [00:54:37] due, yes asked in mysql [00:54:39] http://www.google.com.au/search?q=reset+mysql+root+password [00:54:50] due, thanks :) [00:54:54] thanks are due to due [00:55:17] cryptic0: Generally, with things like that, try google before asking in a chat room. People get grouchy. :) [00:55:47] yeah. I need to write google in big letters and post it on the wall behind my laptop [01:07:10] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/comments kewl [01:08:22] Needs RSS feed! [01:09:25] Why is /e against our security policy? Variables are escaped before being passed, aren't they? [01:18:20] Simetrical: just is [01:18:34] call it reviewer anxiety reduction [01:18:41] on my wiki, {{PAGENAME}} is returning Page_names_like_this. is there a way to convert underscores to spaces? [01:18:43] TimStarling, so there's actually no reason for it? It's more of a "we don't like it" policy than a security policy, surely, in that case? [01:18:57] I want to use it in a "search for pagename" url [01:18:58] well, brion doesn't like it [01:19:12] that's why we don't have any [01:19:39] naught101: Too many Es? [01:19:48] I used to use them, until brion made me stop [01:20:05] naught101: {{PAGENAME}} should = no underscores, {{PAGENAMEE}} should = urlencoded. [01:21:07] TimStarling: I tried contacting you earlier regarding the Poem issue, but you were afk so I just went ahead and did a few things. [01:21:07] in this particular case there's a thing called DoubleReplacer which does exactly what that /e is doing [01:21:21] it's in StringUtils [01:22:00] due: no, that's not it. It's in Mediawiki:Newarticletext though, and some wierd shit happens in there [01:23:37] due: I think it's actually a problem with my special:search URL [01:24:12] [[Special:Search/{{PAGENAME}}|search for {{PAGENAME}}]] doesn't work if there's more than one word in PAGENAME [01:26:02] TimStarling: so are these changes acceptible? I tried to implement as much as you said, although I left a few comments on the original commit's discussion regarding some of the things that could not be changed without breaking stuff: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/41978 [01:28:02] ouch, no not create_function either [01:28:09] here's how you do it, I only gave you a hint before [01:28:23] $replacer = new DoubleReplacer( ' ', ' ' ); [01:28:27] ah [01:28:35] I looked through StringUtils but I must have missed that [01:28:55] $text = preg_replace_callback( '/^( +)/m', $replacer->cb() ); [01:29:15] well, without the brackets, they're redundant [01:30:08] why do you only want to remove the first line break, not all the leading line breaks? [01:30:29] you think that's what was intended? [01:30:32] yes [01:30:41] when I used trim() it failed one of the parser tests for it [01:30:54] when an empty line was inserted before and after a line [01:31:24] granted... I don't see the usefulness for that, but I wanted to try to not break sites using the existing extension that switch over to this [01:32:21] with only replacing the first and last \n, \n\ntest\n\n would render as


test

, but with trim() it would render as

test

[01:33:43] it looks good otherwise [01:34:11] so do you think we should keep that as-is or just use trim()? [01:35:30] as is [01:35:36] ok [01:35:37] *Skizzerz tests [01:35:39] did you confirm that insertStripItem is required? [01:36:03] ah yes, there's a comment [01:36:32] heh, interesting comment [01:36:33] yeah... inside the tag didn't work as expected without it [01:37:21] wait... maybe instead of
I replace it with \n\n? [01:37:36] Then the parser should still parse the newline and a strip item wouldn't be needed [01:37:50] of course... would that add a
or a new

? =\ [01:38:16] why does it call recursiveTagParse after the newline cleanup? [01:38:40] instead of before? [01:39:09] I guess some parser stages might slightly corrupt newlines... [01:39:12] hmm [01:39:18] no, if they did that, DBL wouldn't work [01:39:55] lemme test [01:40:03] if you did it after recursiveTagParse, you'd be positioning it in an equivalent location to doBlockLevels [01:40:39] maybe the problem is the lack of an unstrip? [01:41:03] you'll need recursiveTagParse and then unstrip() [01:41:11] it unstrips fine [01:41:29] I'd better get the latest version so I can test it too [01:41:59] well, if we put the recursiveTagParse before the replacements, I don't think having strip items would even be necessary [01:42:16] that's what I was thinking [01:44:20] yeah, works for me [01:44:59] and like I say, it matches the parse order of the rest of the parser more accurately [01:47:03] hmm [01:47:19] moving the recursiveTagParse up makes wiki markup not work for me [01:48:04] like links? [01:48:11] everything [01:48:23] wait, bullets work [01:48:30] but '''bold''', etc. do not [01:48:45] check $in vs $text [01:48:59] works for me but you've got to watch that [01:49:47] http://p.defau.lt/?pRDXYT3IwGTkp_kqYYB__g [01:51:21] yeah, I have that too, but doesn't work for me... [01:51:39] wait, there we go [01:51:47] my browser had the page cached =/ [01:51:57] I always use preview when I'm testing the parser [01:52:21] same here... but somehow that didn't work [01:52:31] but clearing my cache did [01:53:39] obviously $tag can be removed now, replaced with a string literal, if you haven't done that already [01:53:50] I did [01:53:56] and note that it's Xml::openElement not XML::openElement [01:54:23] as if it were a word [01:54:24] oh [01:54:34] hmm, doesn't work again [01:55:05] needs unstrip [01:55:32] yeah, seems to work with unstrip [01:55:36] I'd better try with gallery [01:56:27] mmm, some extra
s, but probably valid [01:56:52] $text = $this->mStripState->unstripBoth( $text ); [01:57:00] after recursiveTagParse [01:57:37] otherwise the nowiki section is just a marker, so it can't replace line breaks inside it [01:58:07] ah [01:58:26] it'll go back into a marker when renderPoem() returns, so there's no conflict of formats [01:59:30] so is that it then? [01:59:39] maybe you should only unstrip [01:59:43] not the other strip markers [01:59:46] what do you think? [01:59:55] probably isn't really meant to affect [02:00:01] probably not [02:00:26] $text = $this->mStripState->unstripNoWiki( $text ); [02:02:28] ok, that all looks good then [02:02:58] it even removed the unnecessary linebreak from the end [02:04:45] ok, commit it then [02:07:37] ... wtf [02:07:40] *Skizzerz shoots winblows [02:18:07] TimStarling: can you commit, Notepad++ is being gay and adding in the wrong line endings, and I can't figure out why [02:19:13] *Mike_lifeguard bristles... :| [02:19:53] wait, think I got it now =/ [02:19:55] *pdbogen combs. [02:20:21] 03skizzerz * r41983 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/parser/Parser.php maintenance/parserTests.txt): [02:20:37] er... must've forgot the log msg >_> [02:20:52] you should use gvim [02:20:59] text editor for *real* men [02:21:25] vim! :D [02:21:32] nano! [02:22:11] gvim is just vim with some extra g [02:22:29] I don't use gvim because it has less than notepad++, I use it because it has more [02:24:01] *Skizzerz likes n++'s function list thingy [02:30:36] gvim has keyword completion with ctrl-N, I don't use it though [02:30:39] I just type really fast ;) [02:32:28] when i trying to login [02:32:36] i get these errors : [02:32:36] Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /mounted-storage/home94b/sub006/sc49471-HPSH/www/maagar/LocalSettings.php:1) in /mounted-storage/home94b/sub006/sc49471-HPSH/www/maagar/includes/User.php on line 1947 [02:32:36] Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /mounted-storage/home94b/sub006/sc49471-HPSH/www/maagar/LocalSettings.php:1) in /mounted-storage/home94b/sub006/sc49471-HPSH/www/maagar/includes/User.php on line 1950 [02:32:37] Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /mounted-storage/home94b/sub006/sc49471-HPSH/www/maagar/LocalSettings.php:1) in /mounted-storage/home94b/sub006/sc49471-HPSH/www/maagar/includes/User.php on line 1956 [02:32:57] what about before that? [02:33:05] check "view source" [02:35:59] view source works well [02:36:35] ImIvIortaL: He's asking if there are any errors in the source file that predate the modifying header information warning. [02:37:29] i didnt touch the source file (user.php..) [02:37:48] and no.. [02:37:58] there werent no errors.. [02:38:16] would u like to see part of the user.php ? [02:38:53] 1940-1970 : [02:38:54] http://rafb.net/p/JRDfot56.html [02:39:36] There's a buffer purge before the cookies are set somehow. [02:40:09] means?:S [02:40:56] i did disable this : [02:40:57] function header($string, $replace=true) { [02:40:57] * header($string,$replace); [02:40:57] */ [02:40:57] } [02:41:08] because it gave me the same errors.. [02:41:18] and i could not access my wiki [02:42:30] like i mean now ive put down the commas to the code above which is at webresponse.php file [02:42:34] and this is what i get : [02:42:35] Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /mounted-storage/home94b/sub006/sc49471-HPSH/www/maagar/LocalSettings.php:1) in /mounted-storage/home94b/sub006/sc49471-HPSH/www/maagar/includes/WebResponse.php on line 11 [02:43:20] where exactly is defaultsettings.php located? [02:43:41] 03(NEW) HTTP (gzip) compression not enabled on wikipedia. org front page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15944 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (greenreaper) [02:43:55] cryptic0 : # See includes/DefaultSettings.php for all configurable settings [02:44:32] TimStarling, so..? [02:46:42] ImIvIortaL, is there a way to only allow registered users to edit pages? [02:46:53] ofcourse [02:47:02] also is it possible to block registration completely after all users have registered [02:47:09] look in mediawiki tutorial [02:47:13] they have it all there.. [02:47:17] ImIvIortaL, okay! thanks [02:47:22] yes [02:47:58] they have exactly the answers and "how to" for ur questions.. [02:48:36] ImIvIortaL: one of your files is corrupted [02:48:47] which one shall i upload again? [02:49:00] most likely it has some whitespace before the initial have you edited any files at all? [02:49:09] cryptic0 : [02:49:09] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false; [02:49:10] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; # no anon editing [02:49:24] TimStarling [02:49:27] yes i did [02:49:40] only the localsetting [02:49:47] i have a string of "name1=val1; name2=val2; ... nameN=valN", what would be the easiest way to turn it into an array ? [02:50:44] so check your LocalSettings.php and make sure the it doesnt! [02:51:16] # This file was automatically generated by the MediaWiki installer. [02:51:16] # If you make manual changes, please keep track in case you need to [02:51:16] # recreate them later. [02:51:16] # [02:51:17] # See includes/ [02:51:29] its on the first row.. [02:51:29] like two spaces, for instance [02:51:35] ha [02:51:36] ok [02:51:57] WTF [02:52:02] space was the problem [02:52:20] yeah, amazing [02:52:26] tnx man [02:52:31] rly thank ya :) [02:57:02] do u know where can i change the align of the table of contents? [03:00:24] [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] [03:00:31] .toc { float: right; } [03:00:37] should work [03:12:35] I'm attempting to write a script using Perlwikipedia that makes edits to pages on my MW 1.12 install. I am getting the error "Unrecognised value for parameter 'action'". Where should I start looking for a solution? [03:12:57] I already have $wgEnableWriteAPI set true in my LocalSettings.php [03:14:21] Google hasn't given me any advice further than that. [03:24:36] 03(mod) Allow and in {{DISPLAYTITLE:}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14226 (10N/A) [03:26:13] 03(NEW) API: list=recentchanges doesn' t allow to query patrolmarks even if user has the patrolmarks right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15945 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: API; (paul.copperman) [04:35:03] 03(NEW) Add hidepatrolled option to Special:Watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15946 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (paul.copperman) [04:38:07] Is there a way to edit "Main Page" text? [04:38:20] I edited the page, but the title remained Main Page [05:07:54] is there a simple method to redirect "url.org/wiki/item" to the proper but slightly longer "url.org/wiki/index.php/item" ?] [05:10:35] 03(ASSIGNED) Add hidepatrolled option to Special:Watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15946 (10JSchulz_4587) [05:11:01] 03(mod) Add hidepatrolled option to Special:Watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15946 (10JSchulz_4587) [05:11:48] !shorturl | Jinx [05:11:48] --mwbot-- Jinx: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [07:44:47] ok i'm stuck [07:45:11] i have tried many different things and nothing is working [07:45:36] i can't get media wiki installed and started and i need to build a knowlage base for my field techs so we don't have to rely on google for answers we have already figured out.. [07:47:00] is anyone aruond that can help me trouble shoot whats going wrong? [07:50:04] anyone? [07:50:34] i have it installed but i'm supposed to do .. http://localhost/wiki and do the install but it never works.. [08:23:19] 03(NEW) Unknown column 'NS_USER' in 'where clause' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15947 major; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (Gerard.meijssen) [08:23:50] <_wooz> lo [08:26:45] GerardM-, here ? [08:27:27] yes [08:27:47] hey :) [08:27:57] could you be more specific about that bug [08:28:16] we are talking about http://as.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%B6%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B7:Contributions/GerardM right ? :) [08:28:28] When I select any of my contributions, I get that message [08:28:31] yes [08:28:55] 03huji * r41984 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: Localisation updates: Adding/updating Persian translations [08:29:09] okay, true. I thought it was on the special page itself, and could not reproduce :) [08:29:12] thanks :) [08:29:19] your welcome [08:29:52] actually even http://as.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_Portal is wrong [08:31:08] well, you can fix that one as well :) [08:36:14] I mean, the page display is wrong, not only your contribs ;) [08:36:40] NicDumZ can you inform me when it is fixed so that I can message the Assamese ? [08:37:07] you will receive a bugzilla mail ; but I can message you, yes ! [08:40:18] 03(mod) wp.as : Unknown column 'NS_USER' in 'where clause' on some Wikipedia: pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15947 summary; +comment (10nicdumz) [08:43:24] NicDumZ: ?action=edit does work. Preview of that page cannot be made with all content, but it can be made with new content. I'm trying to narrow down to the exact wiki syntax that fails. [08:48:03] siebrand, found [08:48:33] NicDumZ: samish here :) [08:48:42] that user link [08:49:01] NicDumZ: indeed. [08:49:20] NicDumZ: I guess it shouldn't do that :) [08:49:29] ahah I guess :) [08:50:36] NicDumZ: the strange thing is, that it *is* a namespace alias (MessagesAs.php line 37) [08:50:44] argh [08:50:52] crap. [08:50:54] I see it. [08:51:06] 'NS_USER' -> NS_USER [08:51:10] fucking quotes [08:51:13] :) [08:51:30] so we are likely to see more quotes ? [08:52:55] MessagesHy.php- NS_SPECIAL => 'Սպասարկող', [08:52:58] can you fix that too? [08:55:24] 03siebrand * r41985 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesAs.php: (bug 15947) Fix bug introduced in r41134: removed quotes [08:55:52] Nikerabbit: luckily the [08:55:59] 'hy' issue was introduced by you :) [08:57:09] man i just don't know what i'm doign wrong at all 8( [08:57:31] i have mediawiki installed but when i try to point my browser to the config folder i get a 404 error page does not ... [08:57:50] looks like an apache config issue [08:57:55] Nikerabbit: done [08:58:02] 03siebrand * r41986 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHy.php: Fix bug in namespace aliases definition. Was introduced in r26981 [08:58:04] needless to say copy the folder to /var/www/html and renamed it wiki and did chmod a+w config [08:58:30] thats what i'm thinking NicDumz but i go in the apache folder and they all say things are lookingn fine 8/ [08:59:20] 03(FIXED) wp.as : Unknown column 'NS_USER' in 'where clause' on some Wikipedia: pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15947 +comment (10siebrand) [08:59:53] if anyone is familar with setting apache with media wiki can you pm me please.. apache is working just fine atm as far as i can tell.. basic home pages... user folders work etc.. i'm at a loss [09:00:58] 03(mod) wp.as : Unknown column 'NS_USER' in 'where clause' on some Wikipedia: pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15947 (10siebrand) [09:21:57] hello [09:25:48] ./extensions/SelectCategory/SelectCategoryFunctions.php: if ($wgTitle->getNamespace() == "NS_MAIN") { [09:25:57] is that extension broken or what? [09:30:07] 03siebrand * r41987 10/branches/REL1_13/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesAm.php: Fix incorrect namespace definitions for 'am' locale in 1.13 branch [09:46:37] 03ialex * r41988 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (CHANGELOG Configure.api.php Configure.ext.php Configure.php): Added a read-only API module [09:52:45] 03ialex * r41989 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (ApiCodeDiff.php ApiCodeUpdate.php): Added svn:keywords property [10:35:37] 03(mod) --articles (or/and) --namespace option for dumpHTML.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15674 (10emmanuel) [10:36:21] 03(mod) Less expensive redirect article handling by dumpHTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7416 (10emmanuel) [10:37:46] 03(mod) dumpHtml.php causes PHP fatal errors (due to premature output) when read access is locked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4132 (10emmanuel) [10:41:56] 03(mod) Extension installation at the API level - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15589 (10alex.emsenhuber) [11:04:13] 03siebrand * r41990 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (144 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-10-12 12:47 CEST) [11:07:00] 03ialex * r41991 10/trunk/extensions/ErrorHandler/ErrorHandler.php: Don't die horribly in api.php ($wgTitle isn't set while executing that script) [11:09:01] 03siebrand * r41992 10/trunk/extensions/ (51 files in 48 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-10-12 12:47 CEST) [11:36:50] 03(mod) create magic word __NOCATEGORY__ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15941 +comment (10nospam) [11:41:33] could we please have colors other than green and red in codereview diffs? [11:42:04] heresy [11:45:03] Hmm, there is a caching issue on history after restoring old versions. Immediately after restore, the restored revisions are not visible in history (where they should be). action=purge appears to update the history. [11:45:31] Nikerabbit: change your personal css? [11:54:25] uhm, is it a known issue that the page export kills "<" and ">" in the text? [11:56:09] hi [12:03:23] 03(NEW) Link to [[Special:Checkuser]] should appear on [[Special: Deleted contributions]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15948 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (sam.korn) [12:04:59] that sounds easy... [12:05:31] FunPika: the bug I just filed? [12:05:40] yep [12:06:19] It may be as simple as adding the same hook used on Special:Contributions to Special:DeletedContributions... [12:07:01] 03(NEW) Make 'undo' function available through the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15949 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (matthew.britton) [12:07:02] *FunPika goes to try it on his localhost wiki [12:07:13] you could use the same hook? [12:09:41] i actually have no idea... [12:10:16] if it isn't then...I have to add a new hook and change the CU tool to use it O_O [12:11:21] 03jojo * r41993 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: fixed HTML [12:12:18] yay I was right :) [12:13:16] CU is showing up on DeletedContribs on my local install [12:14:50] FunPika: apparently the ContributionsToolLinks hook was used for DeletedContributions when it was an extension [12:15:21] yes...that is how the link was added to normal contribs [12:16:19] 03(mod) Link to [[Special:Checkuser]] should appear on [[Special: Deleted contributions]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15948 (10stevend811) [12:17:54] 03(mod) Link to [[Special:Checkuser]] should appear on [[Special: Deleted contributions]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15948 +patch (10stevend811) [12:19:03] thanks [12:19:52] now we have to wait for a comitter to come around and commit the patch :P [12:20:07] *Werdna hides. [12:20:10] bed for me! [12:34:33] 03(mod) descending tablesort broken for negative numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15890 +bugmonday +need-review +patch (10maxsem.wiki) [12:56:49] why does the internet suck so much? [12:57:35] <_mary_kate_> it was made in america [12:57:48] good answer [12:58:27] nah it was not, was it :P [12:58:47] <_mary_kate_> baali: yes, which is why it used to be called the ARPAnet [12:59:02] <_mary_kate_> defense advanced projects research agency is a part of the US government [12:59:15] aah i thought it was cern [12:59:28] that would be the web [12:59:38] <_mary_kate_> yes, WWW was created at cern [12:59:40] this is IRC, not the web [12:59:42] <_mary_kate_> contrary to popular belief, www != internet [12:59:53] oohh so web -> rocks and net -> sucks :p [13:00:10] well, the web is built on top of the net, which sucks [13:00:12] irc was developed in europe am i right [13:00:20] <_mary_kate_> Finland [13:00:29] :( [13:00:34] <_mary_kate_> (which is in europe..) [13:00:55] lets start some thing to port web to new host :) [13:01:21] with more efficiency then 33% [13:09:38] g morning! [13:10:21] what mediawiki visualizations you have seen so far? [13:24:08] in CodeReview, what state should you give a revision which was new but was reverted on sight? [13:24:18] resolved doesn't seem quite the right word [13:27:28] Reverted? [13:28:34] it would seem like a good idea wouldn't it? [13:28:49] adding that would take like 10 minutes though [13:29:22] 03tstarling * r41994 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Article.php includes/MagicWord.php): Reverted r41655. Causes a text load on parser cache hit. Reduces parser cache hit performance especially for ES clusters. Messages not reverted on the assumption that this revert is temporary. [14:30:09] 03tstarling * r41995 10/trunk/phase3/includes/db/LBFactory_Multi.php: Add readOnlyBySection setting, to replace live hack. [14:38:41] DataBase of MySQL is Lock? at zh.wikipedia.org [14:39:52] p1ayer: Issues known please wait [14:41:31] p1ayer: please lurk on #wikimedia-tech. That is where you can be kept up to date. [14:51:43] siebrand: that's poor accessibility [15:33:28] Nikerabbit: what is? [15:33:57] 03ialex * r41996 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.settings-ext.php: oops [15:35:30] 03(mod) thead, tbody, tfoot for wikitable syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4740 (10michaelj.walsh) [15:46:03] 03(mod) thead, tbody, tfoot for wikitable syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4740 (10michaelj.walsh) [15:46:31] 03(NEW) A Button to Offer the Option to Change the Code We are Required to Tipe When We Edit Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15950 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (marcoscanrib) [15:47:42] 03(mod) A Button to Offer the Option to Change the Code We are Required to Tipe When We Edit Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15950 (10marcoscanrib) [15:48:11] 03(mod) Add button to request new captcha - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15950 summary (10Platonides) [15:48:36] Thanks, Platonides. :-) [15:49:12] 14(DUP) Add button to request new captcha - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15950 +comment (10paul.copperman) [15:49:22] 03(mod) Add a button to request a new fancy captcha - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14230 +comment (10paul.copperman) [15:51:58] 03(mod) Add a button to request a new fancy captcha - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14230 (10Platonides) [15:52:56] 03(mod) Add a button to request a new fancy captcha - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14230 (10mikelifeguard) [15:57:26] 03(mod) create magic word __NOCATEGORY__ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15941 (10Platonides) [16:11:16] 03(mod) create magic word __NOCATEGORY__ - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15941 (10nocat> (or ) such that when a category or a [16:11:17] categorizing template is wrapped in them, then the page doesn't show up in [16:11:17] those categories. [16:11:17] However, all categories should be shown at the bottom of the page as usual (so [16:11:18] that new users see the categories when testing, essentially). Though having a [16:11:20] possibility to hide them also would be handy on certain other pages, though it [16:11:22] would require the creation of another tag. But this later point is not very [16:11:24] important. [16:11:26] oh no :( [16:11:30] -- [16:11:32] Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email [16:11:34] ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- [16:11:36] You are the assignee for the bug. [16:11:38] You are watching all bug changes. [16:11:40] _______________________________________________ [16:11:42] Wikibugs-l mailing list [16:11:44] Wikibugs-l) [16:11:57] nobody want to fix that regex? :) [16:14:28] \o/ [16:34:53] 03(NEW) Search including an ' (apostrophe) character results in a forbidden error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15951 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Search; (thehypo) [16:36:08] 03(mod) Search including an ' (apostrophe) character results in a forbidden error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15951 (10thehypo) [16:44:22] 14(INVALID) Search including an ' (apostrophe) character results in a forbidden error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15951 +comment (10Platonides) [16:56:20] siebrand: to use default colors that are poor for the color blind [16:57:57] Nikerabbit: by all means, change it. It'll probably be reverted by someone who is not colour blind. [16:58:45] http://www.lighthouse.org/accessibility/effective-color-contrast/ [17:00:49] 03(NEW) LocalFile::getHash() updates the sha1 column even in readonly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15952 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (Platonides) [17:03:45] Nikerabbit: http://www.standardzilla.com/2007/05/28/colour-contrast-chart-for-colour-blindness/ may be better, even [17:03:46] 03(mod) LocalFile::getSha1() updates the sha1 column even in readonly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15952 summary (10JSchulz_4587) [17:07:23] 03aaron * r41997 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/LocalFile.php: (bug 15952) Don't try to lazy populate sha1 in read-only mode [17:08:17] 03(FIXED) LocalFile::getSha1() updates the sha1 column even in readonly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15952 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [17:09:00] AaronSchulz, you're fast :) [17:09:12] although the fix was trivial [17:10:36] just noticed it as I signed on [17:12:38] hi there [17:13:55] hi, i need a numbered list, spread out over a couple of pages (like page1 has 1 to n, page2 has n+1 to ...) is there a mediawiki way to tag that? [17:13:59] 03(mod) preview instead of save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2603 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [17:23:16] Patrick [17:31:16] 03aaron * r41998 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (bug 15946) Add hidepatrolled option to Special:Watchlist [17:31:34] 03(FIXED) Add hidepatrolled option to Special:Watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15946 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [17:33:37] 03aaron * r41999 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Rebuilt messages [17:36:25] 03(mod) Add hidepatrolled option to Special:Watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15946 (10JSchulz_4587) [17:39:19] can we have a list in a table in media-wiki syntax? [17:40:18] Yes. [17:41:07] MZMcBride, how?? i mean syntax [17:41:14] {| [17:41:16] | [17:41:19] * foo [17:41:21] |} [17:42:10] aah so in that case until next '|' is not encountered it will become list [17:42:24] Yeah. [17:43:36] MZMcBride, thank you [17:52:00] 03(mod) Deleting of pages with high number of revisions makes server cry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11402 (10JSchulz_4587) [17:53:49] 03(mod) Deleting of pages with high number of revisions makes server cry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11402 (10mikelifeguard) [18:00:52] 03(mod) Extension special pages not recognized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15912 (10JSchulz_4587) [18:03:37] hello [18:04:02] I found a wurm on one of the wikipedia pages i was on [18:04:14] any admin on perhaps? [18:07:38] Is it possible to get a mail on _every_ change in the wiki? [18:10:00] schasi: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges [18:10:24] ialex: Thanks a log [18:10:30] :D [18:12:26] 03aaron * r42000 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: (bug 15912) Fix initList() race condition [18:12:41] \o/ [18:12:43] 03(FIXED) Extension special pages not recognized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15912 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [18:19:29] 03(NEW) Updating of Special Page Caches at Simple - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15953 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: wikibugs; (bluegoblin) [18:22:11] 14(DUP) Updating of Special Page Caches at Simple - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15953 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [18:22:18] 03(mod) Special pages not being updated on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15848 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [18:23:08] Can i somehow transfer content between languages? I have a language code of 'en' in the configuration, but would like to switch without 'losing' the content [18:26:02] just change $wgLanguageCode [18:27:01] you may have to fix some links [18:27:02] hello [18:27:20] est ce un chat francais ?? [18:27:30] 03(mod) Incorrect longitude range check for geographical coordinates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4241 +bugmonday; +comment (10brion) [18:27:47] zeubuntu: non, mais tu peux toujours essayer ;) [18:28:07] yes ialex [18:28:38] ialex, le probleme que je ne trouve pas la doc pour installer mediawiki [18:29:03] zeubuntu: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installation_guide/fr [18:29:06] ialex, sur mon serveur y'a tous les fichier [18:29:12] ialex: after i did that, i had a page with "there is no content yet" where my mainpage used to be [18:30:03] schasi: the main page changes when you change the language, you can update [[MediaWiki:Mainpage]] or move your main page [18:30:17] ialex: Of course. Thank you [18:30:34] ialex, idem [18:32:45] zeubuntu: tu as réussi à lancer le script d'installation ? [18:33:42] yes [18:34:10] probleme etait du a phpmydamin [18:35:15] 03(NEW) Complete and deploy a GIS extension for geographic coordinates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15954 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: GIS; (brion) [18:35:31] ialex, qui l'admin du mediawiki?? [18:35:39] zeubuntu: qu'est-ce qui c'est passé ? [18:35:50] 14(DUP) create magic word __NOCATEGORY__ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15941 +comment (10rowan.collins) [18:35:58] 03(mod) syntax to transclude a page without the containing page inheriting categories , interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835 +comment (10rowan.collins) [18:36:23] ben le user je l'avais etait root et non pas le nom de la base mediawiki que j'avait creer [18:36:27] 03(NEW) Provide geolocation search in API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15955 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: GIS; (brion) [18:37:43] zeubuntu: donc c'est l'utilisateur root qui est dans LocalSettings.php [18:37:45] <' [18:37:47] oups [18:37:49] ? [18:38:00] 03(mod) Complete and deploy a GIS extension for geographic coordinates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15954 (10bugs) [18:38:06] 03(mod) Provide geolocation search in API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15955 (10bugs) [18:38:45] ialex [18:38:50] ialex, [18:38:52] ah bon [18:39:06] 03(NEW) Set default thumbnail size to 200px on it.wikiquote.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15956 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (federicoleva) [18:39:21] zeubuntu: je sais pas, je posais la question ;) [18:39:28] 03(NEW) Support W3C geolocation API for in-browser geographic search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15957 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: GIS; (brion) [18:39:48] ialex, idem [18:41:02] ialex, je suis bien comme admin [18:41:17] zeubuntu: dans la base de données ? [18:41:27] ialex, et pourtant je ne n'arrive pas am(y connecter [18:41:41] ialex, la LocalSettings.php [18:41:57] zeubuntu: t'arrives pas à te connecter au wiki ? [18:42:20] si mais pas le user dans ce fichier [18:43:44] ialex, on configurer l'admin du wiki [18:44:01] euuh [18:44:02] zeubuntu: les utilisateurs du wikis ne sont pas les mêmes que ceux de la base de données, tu as du entrer le nom d'utilisateur et le mot de passe au haut du formulaire [18:44:15] ialex, oui [18:44:31] si par hazard tu parles d'AdminSettings.php , c'est specifiquementun compte mysql [18:44:49] ialex, donc comment definir mon user comme admin [18:44:52] ? [18:45:21] zeubuntu: il l'est par défaut [18:46:13] ialex, le premier que j'enregistre [18:46:16] ?? [18:46:18] oui [18:46:40] ok d'acc [18:46:47] celui créé par le programme d'installation [18:47:15] AaronSchulz: re r41998: I guess that link should not be present on $wgUseRCPatrol = false;... [18:48:08] je suis connecter dans le wiki ou suis je indiquer comme admin [18:50:04] 03(mod) Special pages not being updated on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15848 (10N/A) [18:50:22] 03(mod) Support W3C geolocation API for in-browser geographic search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15957 (10bugs) [18:50:45] ialex, pas grave deja pas mal [18:50:54] ialex, merci pour ton aide [18:52:44] AaronSchulz: I think there should also be a message in the prefs tab "Watchlist" for "Hide patrolled edits from the watchlist" [18:56:42] well, some one has to add the pref [18:56:45] it is marked as TODO [18:59:23] 03(mod) Complete and deploy a GIS extension for geographic coordinates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15954 (10bugs) [19:00:40] 03aaron * r42001 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialWatchlist.php: Check $wgUser->useRCPatrol() [19:05:21] 03(mod) syntax to transclude a page without the containing page inheriting categories , interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [19:11:13] 03(mod) Successful login message should not be displayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15911 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [19:12:57] 03(mod) syntax to transclude a page without the containing page inheriting categories , interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [19:51:55] 03(mod) Complete and deploy a GIS extension for geographic coordinates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15954 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [19:52:58] 03(mod) Complete and deploy a GIS extension for geographic coordinates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15954 (10mrzmanwiki) [20:02:51] 03siebrand * r42002 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (65 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-10-12 21:44 CEST) [20:03:56] 03siebrand * r42003 10/trunk/extensions/ (16 files in 16 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-10-12 21:44 CEST) [20:06:29] Are there any module or a trick to format IRC logs? [20:06:55] Syntux, there're some tricks [20:07:00] see the hidden irc codes [20:07:54] Platonides, where is that ? [20:10:17] i mean in the output [20:13:05] hey, i wanted to remove the 'Main Page' header from my main page, and i edited MediaWiki:Mainpage to remove the text, but its still there [20:13:15] also after refreshing browser cache with ctrl-F5 [20:13:49] or could my skin be messing this up [20:14:56] Sling, use CSS [20:15:25] MediaWiki:Mainpage controls what page is used as the main page, you need to use CSS to hide it [20:15:52] yea i also put .page-Main_Page h1.firstHeading { display: none; } in my css [20:16:14] one sec, restoring MediaWiki:MainPage, that messed the Main Page link in the sidebar up [20:26:01] ah, found it in the main.css of the theme [20:51:44] where can i edit which sections appear in the sidebar? [20:52:38] 03btongminh * r42004 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/codereview.js: Remove the os_updateIfRelevant check. Appears to have no use here and breaks diff loading on systems with $wgEnableMWSuggest = false. [20:53:25] Sling, MediaWiki:Sidebar [20:53:27] ie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar [20:54:07] ah yea, thnx [20:55:17] is there a list of these MediaWiki:* pages? [20:55:29] (sorry, im a bit lazy today) [20:57:46] !allmessages | Sling [20:57:46] --mwbot-- Sling: I don't know anything about "allmessages". [20:57:48] Sigh. [20:57:54] Sling, Special:AllMessages [20:57:57] ack [20:58:38] !help [20:58:38] --mwbot-- Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot >, you can find all my source code at < http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn >. A dump is now available at < http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html > [20:59:52] !allmessages [20:59:52] --mwbot-- Special:AllMessages [20:59:57] Simetrical, ;P [21:04:25] !allmessages [21:04:25] --mwbot-- Special:AllMessages [21:04:28] o.o [21:04:50] bot can learn [21:04:57] but it wont unlearn to add a better message [21:06:14] Reedy, !messagename del [21:06:23] i've tried [21:06:35] !addmessages del [21:06:36] Successfully removed keyword: addmessages [21:06:36] !allmessages is For a list of system messages available in the MediaWiki: namespace, see Special:AllMessages [21:06:36] Keyword "allmessages" already exists. Use "!allmessages del" to remove it. [21:06:49] add != all [21:06:56] lol [21:06:57] fail [21:07:32] !allmessages | Reedy [21:07:32] --mwbot-- Reedy: For a list of system messages available in the MediaWiki: namespace, see Special:AllMessages [21:07:38] yay :) [21:07:41] ty [21:20:20] may I use the wikipedia sandbox in a mediawiki api testsuite (a perl module which uses the mediawiki api.php). I need to test various functions, and users who download the code will also be running these test. this included some editing/reverting test. if I can use the sandbox, can I create a special user for my bot? or should I use some other wiki (or own installed one) ? [21:21:30] exobuzz: you think this channel has someone in it that has authority to grant that permission? [21:21:38] no idea. [21:21:45] exobuzz, ask in #wikipedia-en. [21:22:20] well.. i dont neccessarily need to use wikipedia. any sandbox with an upto date mediawiki i guess [21:22:52] that sentence was a bit reversed but you know what i mean. [21:23:28] exobuzz, maybe use testwiki then? [21:23:56] http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page ? [21:24:34] that would be fine.. but again i need to know if that is considered acceptable to use that ?> (do i need to ask in wikipedia-en for that site also ?) [21:25:14] no [21:25:17] its fine [21:25:25] test wiki is designed for just that, testing [21:26:23] it says on the site: he Wikipedia Test Wiki is not: a place to create bots [21:26:25] :) [21:27:06] bringing up a mediawiki wiki is not that hard. [21:27:50] true. i might just do that. [21:28:06] well i sort of have one. it is out of date a bit.. laziness. well.. [21:28:26] the only thing the real wikipedia site has which i cant emulate is the maxlag stuff with the replication etc [21:29:00] ask in #wikimedia-tech or similar [21:29:18] k [21:29:22] well thanks for the advices [21:33:13] exobuzz: You should use test.wiki or a subpage on a live wiki. [21:33:25] Trying to replicate Wikimedia's setup is _impossible_. [21:33:34] You can come sorta close sometimes, maybe, but not really. [21:33:42] oh [21:33:47] replicating wikimedia setup is easy [21:33:54] you just need few million dollars for hardware :) [21:34:01] :P [21:34:26] And identical copies of PHP, MySQL, texvc, ImageMagick, etc. :P [21:35:46] :) [21:35:56] i got about 42p [21:44:48] !allmessages [21:44:48] --mwbot-- For a list of system messages available in the MediaWiki: namespace, see Special:AllMessages [22:07:55] !parsertests [22:07:55] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "parsertests". [22:08:37] FunPika: fail [22:08:43] *Alexfusco5 kicks CIA-6 [22:08:44] ow [22:08:51] *Alexfusco5 kills CIA-6 [22:08:51] *CIA-6 dies [22:08:56] *Alexfusco5 eats CIA-6 [22:08:57] *CIA-6 tastes crunchy [22:09:00] *FunPika punches CIA-6 [22:09:06] fail [22:09:08] *Alexfusco5 rubs CIA-6's tummy [22:09:09] *purr* [22:09:14] O_O [22:19:23] 03(NEW) TH | UI problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15958 normal; normal; Wikimedia: User survey; (nkomura) [22:31:35] hey guys. [22:32:02] I remember there being an issue about running Mediawiki from www.server.com/ rather than www.server.com/folder/ [22:32:13] Under what name should I search the web for this issue? [22:32:49] oh, found it. [22:32:54] "Wiki in site root directory" [22:33:00] Keep up the good work. [22:52:28] 03(mod) syntax to transclude a page without the containing page inheriting categories , interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835 (10nocat> seems to be the best option. There are different cases to consider [22:52:28] though. [22:52:28] Sandboxes, draft pages, etc should not show up in categories. However, they [22:52:29] should show the categories at the bottom of the page so that new users see how [22:52:31] it works. [22:52:35] In maintenance pages and for certain other applications, the page should not [22:52:37] show up in categories and also be removed from the bottom of the page. [22:52:41] So we need two tags: [22:52:43] that removes the page from wrapped categories (including transcluded [22:52:45] ones) but let them visible on the page. [22:52:47] that hides the wrapped categories on the page (including transcluded [22:52:49] ones) but let the page categorized in them. [22:52:55] -- [22:52:57] Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email [22:52:59] ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- [22:53:01] You are the assignee for the bug. [22:53:03] You are watching all bug changes. [22:53:07] _______________________________________________ [22:53:09] Wikibugs-l mailing list [22:53:11] Wikibugs-l) [22:54:05] *MrZ-man kicks wikibugs [23:06:45] Why do people say to drink clear fluids when you're sick? Is ginger ale really better for sick people than, say, orange soda? [23:14:21] hi [23:15:04] 03brion * r42005 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/parser/Parser.php maintenance/parserTests.txt): [23:15:04] Revert mystery change r41983 -- no explanation of the change or its purpose. [23:15:04] Appears to be an attempt to remove some extra whitespace, but it's kind of unclear. [23:17:21] because clear fluids are perceived to not have solids in them. [23:17:28] And solids are usually not retained [23:36:17] anyone here [23:36:30] why is tab being converted to spaces in 

 & ?
[23:40:45] 	03brion * r42006 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeRevisionCommitter.php: 
[23:40:45] 	Wrap the revision updates in a transaction. This makes me feel a little warm and
[23:40:45] 	fuzzy, and it may or may not also help with letting the load balancer system
[23:40:45] 	know that we have a master position that needs to be seen on the next page view.
[23:41:18] 	Danny_B: is tab handled in a consistent manner if you just pass it straight to the browser?
[23:43:36] 	sorry, what exactly do you mean? if i have it in textarea source of page it is still tab (after save and reopening still too) but rendering both 
 and  makes it spaces (if i'm not wrong, eight). firefox 2.0.0.17@winxp
[23:44:09] 	i'll try to set up some demo
[23:44:15] 	gimme a sec
[23:44:29] 	brion, AFAIK, all browsers have tab = 8 spaces.
[23:44:45] 	But obviously it shouldn't be eaten in 
 regardless, that breaks stuff like copy-pasting diffs or whatever.
[23:44:46] 	do the tabs align as expected?
[23:45:03] 	If by "as expected" you mean "as in a text editor with tab width set to 8", then in my experience, yes.
[23:45:12] 	Although I can't claim that I've tested every browser.
[23:45:36] 	wouldn't hurt to do a quick test :)
[23:45:49] 	I can confirm it for Firefox.
[23:45:50] 	do we do any manual replacement in 
 i don't recall this being done offhand
[23:45:59] 	GeSHi might do god knows what tho
[23:46:00] 	I don't see 
 eating tabs.
[23:46:08] 	(that's not our code of course)
[23:46:33] 	hi, can someone get me a demo of how to set up Short Url for wiki?
[23:46:36] 	Hmm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Simetrical/Sandbox
[23:46:46] 	Maybe it's Tidy?
[23:46:50] 	It works correctly on localhost . . .
[23:47:01] 	And on Wikipedia seems to be preserved in the edit box.
[23:47:02] 	could be
[23:47:03] 	But displayed wrong.
[23:47:59] 	Seems to be converted tab -> 8 spaces for 
, run of tabs -> 1 space for , on my enwiki sandbox.
[23:48:50] 	On localhost, it's preserved in 
 but all tabs are converted to one space in , so the latter sounds like GeSHi's fault.
[23:49:23] 	Wait, hmm.
[23:49:32] 	Tabs are sometimes preserved in ?
[23:51:03] 	Well, not our fault, blame someone else.  :)
[23:51:47] 	http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabs
[23:51:56] 	03(mod)  syntax to transclude a page without the containing page inheriting categories , interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835  (10bugs)
[23:56:05] 	i wonder about last two cases
[23:56:12] 	also
[23:56:54] 	morning Simetrical 
[23:57:04] 	Werdna, and good evening to you.  :)
[23:57:12] 	it's 11am.
[23:57:25] *Werdna 	has 4 more minutes off before he has to go off and write about the nature of imaginative journeys.
[23:57:29] 	I hate English.
[23:58:14] 	The nature of imaginative journeys is to be generally useless, unless you're cool enough that you can get other people to want to hear or read them, in which case you should become a novelist.
[23:58:17] 	Or a politician.
[23:58:44] 	heh.
[23:58:47] 	Thankfully, I'm currently taking my last writing course hopefully ever, and it's not as bad as it could be either (Writing for the Sciences).
[23:58:54] 	well, I can't just write that in the exam, can I ? :P
[23:59:08] 	I always wished I could do things like that.
[23:59:30] 	It'd be a "non-serious attempt", and I'd end up in front of the board of studies.
[23:59:34] 	Fun.
[23:59:46] 	Like the pages people pass around with "expand (a + b)^n" and the answer being "(    a    +    b    )^n".
[23:59:53] 	My ssh process will be killed any second now :(
[23:59:58] 	I'll see you in an hour or so :P