[00:10:03] howdy, anybody willing/able to help with an upgrade issue? [00:20:32] 03(mod) SVN proxy error when purging diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15943 (10JSchulz_4587) [00:24:48] hey guys i just had a server crash and when it came back up when i go to it just gives me a directory listing as for the specs i am running mediawiki 1.11.2 apache 2.2.9 and php 5.2.6-pl6-gentoo [00:25:00] any ideas as to what i may have going on [00:28:03] hi my ldap auth break after media wiki update, i am not able to modify document [00:32:04] hi [00:32:26] my ldapwuth is not working after mediawiki update now i am not able to modify document, any help [00:36:49] sad-boy: what revision did you upgrade from/to? [00:47:07] 03aaron * r42158 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Pager.php: (bug 16009) Remove extra title param [00:47:13] 03(FIXED) Extra title param tacked onto page limits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16009 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [01:25:45] 03aaron * r42159 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialListredirects.php: Break long line [01:31:26] 03aaron * r42160 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialNewpages.php: whitespace :) [01:36:10] 03aaron * r42161 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Refactor contribs to use the newer class extension method (about to do bug 6955) [01:38:59] !b 6955 [01:38:59] --mwbot-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6955 [01:39:38] !r 42161 [01:39:38] --mwbot-- http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=42161 [01:45:36] 03aaron * r42162 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeRepository.php: Use strong comparison [01:48:48] Splarka: as I feared - if you have more than 200 pages with the same defaultsort in a category, the 'next 200' link is broken [01:48:57] 03aaron * r42163 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeTagListView.php: Fix r42155 - don't spew for empty messages everywhere [01:49:49] carl-m, yeah, that's kind of broken. Really the key should be on (cl_to, cl_sortkey, cl_to) for uniqueness, but it's probably too much of a pain to change that now. [01:50:00] It's a pretty pathological scenario, though. [01:50:10] that is what the key is [01:50:14] wait [01:50:27] you mean (cl_to, cl_sotkey, cl_from) ? [01:50:34] Hmm, yeah. [01:50:35] You're right. [01:50:39] So we should use that. [01:50:46] At any rate your custom toolserver tool can. [01:50:59] It's guaranteed unique, so pagination will be safe. [01:51:34] the only (minor) problem is that cl_from is not alphabetical [01:51:34] *Simetrical makes a mental note to change CategoryPage.php to use that sometime [01:51:45] Well, yes, technically cl_sortkey doesn't have to be either. [01:51:59] It's a definite order that mostly accords with alphabetical order. [01:52:02] in practice cl_sortkey is often not alphabetical [01:52:04] Should be good enough. [01:52:27] but it's somewhat odd that pages that have the same sortkey are subsorted by page id (but this is necessary because of the table schema) [01:55:55] What other criterion would you use? In theory there should be few to no collisions, this is just meant to resolve pathological cases so they don't actually break. [01:56:29] ideally pages with the same sortkey would be subsorted alphabetically [01:58:43] maybe all sortkeys should simply have the page title appended [01:59:14] (not literally, but assumptively) [01:59:35] right, but when you try to do it literally you run into index lengths [01:59:35] so if sortkey is R, for Image:Foo.gif sortkey used is "R_Image:Foo.gif" [01:59:46] actually, that would be great [02:00:00] then you'd get very few duplicates (if even possible) [02:00:07] although only 70 chars of sortkey are currently stored in the index, but still it would be an improvement in many cases [02:00:10] 03aaron * r42164 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeRevisionListView.php: Use xml function [02:00:16] and any over 70 letters can just be ignored (who would have 200 pages with the same 70 char sortkey?) [02:00:46] it would certainly be an improvement [02:00:52] begs the question though (hah): include namespace or no? [02:01:00] "R_Image:Foo.gif" vs "R_Foo.gif" [02:01:12] I'd have to look at CategoryPage again to see how the current behavior is [02:01:19] probably include it, maybe not as intutive but more predictable [02:01:50] the ideal thing is to use the numeric namespace, padded to 2 digits, so that it sorts all mainspace first [02:01:51] Simetrical: could this be done gradually? like, just change it and then let categories suss themselves out? or would it require a necessary/nasty rebuild? [02:02:02] it could be done gradually [02:02:03] hmm [02:02:12] R_008_Foo.gif ? [02:02:20] (or what is image, 6?) [02:02:37] sure. nobody sees those sortkeys anyway, except in the links generated by CategoryPage [02:03:03] and brion, who'll say "icky!" [02:03:20] well, there is one issue, which is that the headings on the category page have to strip off the suffix [02:03:58] so you might have tomake the sortkey r#008#Foo.gif [02:04:08] or some other char illegal in sortkeys [02:04:16] mmm, cmcontinue uses pipe? [02:04:19] title|id ? [02:04:40] yes, the API loves to use pipes [02:04:44] pipe is better anyway [02:04:57] as long as it's illeal in sortkeys,I don't know the syntax there [02:04:58] &next=Foo#bar in a GET uri on a Category might break ^_^ [02:05:07] (since # denotes anchors) [02:05:13] <_mary_kate_> i wish the API had a nice query language, instead of unintelligable URLs full of parameters [02:06:20] &action=response&name=River&nick=_mary_kate_"etext=%3C_mary_kate_%3E+i+wish+the+API+had+a+nice+query+language%2C+instead+of+unintelligable+URLs+full+of+parameters&cc=carl-m&response=you+could+always+use+POST [02:06:21] isn't that what toolserver is for? [02:06:53] <_mary_kate_> you think everyone who wants to use the API should get a TS account? that rather defeats the point of the API ;) [02:07:04] <_mary_kate_> also, it could be more domain-specific than SQL, thus easier to use [02:07:17] on dialup one gets used to learning most of the URI parameters [02:07:32] typing Special:Whatlinkshere/Foo is faster than going to the page and clicking "What links here" most of the time [02:07:43] (so for the API it is just a small step up) [02:08:28] I think most people who use the api have a pretty narrow set of queries they run, and people who need to run custom queries tend to go for toolserver [02:09:13] Splarka, you could certainly change over sortkeys gradually to have the page title appended, if you liked. [02:10:55] *Splarka wonders if the API would like that [02:11:15] it's not really different than if it was done by hand one article at a time [02:11:21] Simetrical: hmm would it even have to be in the sortkey? [02:11:35] Splarka, what do you mean/ [02:11:46] I mean, could whatever injects it into the table simply append the namespace/title when sorting? [02:12:04] (or no, probably would it need it there for all other entries for yknow, actual sorting) [02:12:14] You need to append it to the actual cl_sortkey. [02:12:31] and then for continue with over 200, you'd need to reference it [02:13:06] the index I am using for the categorylinks table is defined like this: KEY cl_sortkey (cl_to,cl_sortkey,cl_from), [02:13:42] am I right this does not actually make it any easier to order by cl_to, cl_sortkey, cl_from ? [02:14:18] hmm, so how to make it not look ugly in http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Nutrition&from=R|000_Twinkies [02:14:41] (other than POSTing the parameters, POST is evil for linking dammit) [02:31:39] Splarka: the toolserver version is snappy. But it should definitely be an extension. http://toolserver.org/~cbm/cgi-bin/queries/NextPage?category=Mathematical_logic&ns=0&title=Action_algebra [02:32:54] or just part of mediawiki [02:34:01] hey, kinky [02:34:54] once I gave up on alphebtizing, and just used the damn index, everything is cake [02:42:29] apparently, the extension would have to override getCategoryLinks() in Skin.php. How would I accomplish that? [02:47:15] carl-m, write a new skin. Or petition for a hook. Or give up and use a file edit. [02:47:49] that's what I thought, but I don't know much PHP [02:48:37] maybe I should just stick with the easy javascript/toolserver hack [02:48:57] omghax [03:34:49] my ldap auth break after wiki update, can any one help? [05:42:07] check if the extension is compatible with the version you upgraded to [05:42:08] and/or if there's new code specifically for it [05:42:08] DarkoNeko, i also upgrade extenion [05:42:09] but it wont connect [05:42:10] :o [05:42:10] I don't kno w then [05:42:12] DarkoNeko, where i ask, it now too much time what should i do [05:42:12] I don't know [05:42:12] the problem is not precise neough [05:42:12] any recommendation pls [05:42:12] ok [05:42:12] is there a smaller xml dump so i can test my installation of mediawiki? [05:42:12] 14(INVALID) GlobalBloking extension does not recognize the database server it' s supposed to and crashes Mediawiki to the point you have to reinstall. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16004 +comment (10Andrew) [05:42:12] afternoon. [05:42:13] 03aaron * r42165 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (CodeRepository.php SpecialCode.php): Move authorwikiuser to better place [05:42:13] hey Werdna, thoughts on http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/rights ? should access to Userrights be blocked by blocked users? (my opinion is: anything that affects recent changes should be, except unblock of course). Obviously most wikis won't give access to userrights to regular users, but some might, and it is a bit spammily abusable [05:42:14] Splarka: um, wtf happened there? [05:42:14] heh [05:42:14] well, Aaron wrote Flaggedrevs you know [05:42:14] and made two new groups and a special page to assign/remove them [05:42:14] and asked them to be assignable by regular users, for testing purposes, on test.wp [05:42:14] and as soon as your limited userrights refactoring went live, we asked brion to enable userrights for 'user', for those two groups (since they could already do it anyway) [05:42:14] anyway, it has been like that ever since (for a few months) and it wasn't a problem until now [05:42:15] (since Userrights changes are possible by blocked users, and brion said it is expected behavior, heh) [05:42:15] hehe, silly brion [05:42:15] heh. what is he doing? :P [06:04:42] 03(mod) Provide "mark these n changes as patrolled" button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8697 +comment (10Sebastian.Dietrich) [08:00:16] template substitution isn't working on my wiki [08:00:16] anyone have any ideas why? it has worked before [08:00:17] and the template I'm trying to subsitute works by itself [08:00:17] http://en.envirowiki.info/Tiwi_Islands < the template is at the very bottom [08:00:18] {{subst:today}} [08:00:18] subst: doesn't work within tags? [08:00:18] naught101: you need to subst all the variables too? [08:00:19] Splarka: yeah, I do, I guess, but that wasn't the problem [08:00:20] I mean [08:00:22] [[{{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}]] {{subst:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{subst:CURRENTDAY}} [08:00:22] it just wasn't substing at all when inside ... [08:00:23] ahh, ref [08:00:23] try #tag:ref ? [08:00:25] hrrm... [08:00:25] There are two colors present in recent changes, well, two specific colors. Red and Green, for Wikipedia at least. I have searched and I have searched, but I have yet to find a way to add this to one's Recent changes page [08:00:25] In case clarification is required, I am referring to the color of the text that denotes whether material is removed or added, in the case that (-34) is removed from an article, and is displayed in a red color, etc. [08:00:26] ahh, plusminus [08:00:27] currently it's only just a dull black. I honestly can't find anything regarding it, so do you know of how I might be able to enable it? [08:00:27] skins/common/shared.css -> .mw-plusminus-null { color: #aaa; } [08:00:27] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css -> .mw-plusminus-pos {color: #006400;} .mw-plusminus-neg {color: #8B0000;} [08:00:28] thankyou [08:00:28] is all I see defined on en.wp [08:00:29] for future ref, the trick is... [08:00:29] view page source, check what wraps it: (+50) [08:00:30] that can be referenced as -> .mw-plusminus-pos [08:00:31] 03(NEW) subst: doesn't work within ... tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16010 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (naught101) [08:00:32] I didn't think I could do that with Recent changes [08:00:33] you can with any html (as long as it loads the site css) [08:00:34] hmm, naught101, that's probably expected behavior [08:03:19] really? seems like template substitution could be pretty useful inside tags... [08:03:20] should be possible with #tag [08:03:20] awesome, and it works, thank you [08:03:22] templates in general don't work in xml extension [08:03:23] in what instance? [08:03:24] nor magic words [08:03:25] we pre-save transform inside tags. [08:03:26] <_wooz> lo [08:03:26] *Daedalus969 directed that to naught [08:03:27] oh thankyou [08:03:27] it makes it so much easier to read [08:03:29] *thank you [08:03:29] rar [08:03:30] naught101: nothing works inside xml tags unless it is specifically forced to by the authors (like and {{PAGENAME}}), that is why #tag was merged into core, so the extension authors would no longer be responsible for it [08:03:30] someone needs to right an extention to dictate the order in which parser functions are parsed [08:03:30] gah.. I'm so tired tonight *write [08:03:30] 'extension' [08:03:31] *Werdna swears. [08:03:31] anyone? [08:03:31] !ask | vieadmin [08:03:31] --mwbot-- vieadmin: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [08:03:32] Darn bot [08:03:32] VieAdmin: Just ask your question [11:22:35] dammit, doesn't happen in the branch :/ [11:31:37] 03werdna * r42168 10/branches/group_rights/ (310 files in 24 dirs): Merge in latest trunk. Includes revert of r41892, which merge-conflicted. Will ensure that the regression doesn't occur in due time. [11:51:39] hmm, any reason that calling $log->addEntry() wouldn't show up in logging or recentchanges tables? [11:51:51] I've checked for transaction issues, only seems to be one transaction. [11:52:07] I've done a die( var_dump( $this ) ) in the appropriate part of LogPage.php, and it all shows up okay. [11:52:19] and addEntry (hence saveContent) returns true. [11:57:05] what does it mean when creating an account "Ignore spoofing checks"? [12:03:26] t0lk: whether or not to check if the name is similar to other names. [12:04:48] Is there a magic word that will always return the current logged in user's name (or in case of no user, the IP), but without a wiki link, just the name raw...? [12:05:02] nope. [12:05:07] :(! Why!? [12:05:08] performance. [12:05:19] Wait, are you responding to me? [12:05:28] yep. [12:05:45] Then I don't get what "performance" was about. [12:05:54] 12:12 < svip_> :(! Why!? [12:06:05] Still not following... [12:06:17] What does it have to do with performance? [12:06:39] One of the most nasty operations you can do on Wikipedia is converting Wikitext to XHTML [12:06:55] sure, it takes 0.3 of a second, but the site has been brought down for less. [12:06:58] Wow wow... I am not talking XHTML. [12:07:03] I talking plain text. [12:07:15] Wiki articles are *not* plain text, though. [12:07:18] they're XHTML [12:07:23] Perhaps. [12:07:24] converted from wikitext. [12:07:33] So, before we display ANY article, we have to parse it [12:07:37] But if you can output [[User:Stuff|Stuff]], why can't you output Stuff? [12:07:45] that involves converting the wikitext to XHTML to display. [12:07:53] <_mary_kate_> svip_: if you have something that depends on the current username, you have to re-render the page for every user [12:07:53] It's not done like that [12:08:01] we use [[Special:Mypage]] [12:08:07] (I assume that's what you mean) [12:08:09] _mary_kate_: But you have {{CURRENTDAY}}! [12:08:16] svip_: yeah, so? [12:08:18] Does that not depend on the day? [12:08:18] that renders once a day. [12:08:19] big deal. [12:08:25] And {{CURRENTHOUR}}. [12:08:27] one render per day isn't a big deal. [12:08:31] neither is one render per hour [12:08:35] <_mary_kate_> svip_: those don't really work, they get outdated quickly [12:08:39] Nikerabbit: hi [12:08:44] Hell, {{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} [12:08:48] The other thing to consider is that those don't force the page to be recached. [12:08:48] +even [12:08:49] <_mary_kate_> svip_: but they're roughly accurate, whereas a current user word would be almost always wrong [12:08:56] I am not buying your performance argument. [12:08:57] Those update whenever the page is purged. [12:09:05] svip_: okay, let me explain it to you. [12:09:19] <_mary_kate_> svip_: okay, then add your own user magic word. then notice that it always displays the username of the first user to view the page, whoever is viewing it [12:09:21] Put {{CURRENTSECOND}} on a page, and wait a few minutes [12:09:22] MinuteElectron: hello? [12:09:32] It will NOT UPDATE [12:09:37] it will stay EXACTLY THE SAME [12:09:45] <^demon> I thought the proposal for {{CURRENTUSER}} died awhile ago... [12:09:46] Nikerabbit: approximatley 2 hours ago you said hi to me [12:09:46] if we let it update, then we would have to re-render the page every time it changed [12:09:50] MinuteElectron: oh [12:09:53] MinuteElectron: hi and bye then! [12:09:59] =] [12:09:59] Good riddance. I was just going to use the magic word for when subst'ing a template... [12:10:01] *^demon waves at MinuteElectron [12:10:07] hello ^demon [12:10:08] I guess that isn't possible then. [12:10:15] for CURRENTHOUR, this is no big deal. So what if the hour is out of date by a while? [12:10:22] but for {{CURRENTUSER}} it's totally different. [12:10:37] it would always display the first user who viewed the page with the same settings as you, because that's how it's cached. [12:10:49] If we re-rendered the page every time somebody visited it, the site would go down in seconds. [12:11:06] But that is not what I would use it for. [12:11:14] If I wanted that, I'd use javascript! [12:11:40] what do you want to use it for? [12:11:48] Like I said, subst'ing a template. [12:12:01] oh, I see what you're getting at. [12:12:11] That wouldn't be awful for performance. [12:12:17] Yes. [12:13:01] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words -- that's where all the doc is. [12:13:19] I was actually looking for something like ~~~, but without the wikilinks or formats defined by the user. [12:13:23] come to think of it, I swear I can remember a subst-only version of that. [12:15:02] <^demon> Werdna: I think that was one of the proposals for CURRENTUSER, making it only work when subst'd, and providing an error if it's not. [12:17:20] oh, I thought somebody implemented it [12:17:58] <^demon> Not iirc. [12:26:25] <^demon> BAH! How is this possible? I set my max_allowed_packet to 100M....how could I possibly have a row of data bigger than that... [12:53:54] 03(mod) Allow group rights to be changed on-wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15252 (10Andrew) [13:00:33] Hi again [13:00:53] I tested the settings in Mozilla FF and it all woked nicely. [13:02:10] Bummer that it doesn't in IE7 though! [13:13:26] 03(NEW) CentralAuth Error when trying to merge a account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16011 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (techman224) [13:16:11] 14(WFM) CentralAuth Error when trying to merge a account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16011 +comment (10Andrew) [13:16:33] can someone please explain mediawiki xml dumps to me? [13:18:15] I installed a custom theme and now the edit toolbar is missing. How can I bring it back? [13:18:37] t0lk: explain how? they are just wrappers around the wikitext. they contain a list of pages, and a list of revisions for each page, along with metadata like timestamps, authors, etc [13:20:12] ok [13:21:19] how do you download an xml dump? [13:37:42] 14(DUP) subst: doesn't work within ... tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16010 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [13:37:50] 03(mod) Template parameters unavailable to XML-style parser tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2257 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [13:39:16] 03(mod) Include regular page links when determining unused images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8588 (10roan.kattouw) [13:40:18] 03(mod) Include regular page links when determining unused images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8588 +need-review +patch (10roan.kattouw) [13:48:35] is it possible to clear a specific page of all revisions in the database? for example I wonder if there is any point in keeping revisions for a sandbox page for example [13:49:00] or just keeping last months perhaps etc [13:49:24] hi RoanKattouw [13:49:37] Hi [13:49:44] exobuzz: Try Extension:Nuke [13:49:58] t0lk: Special:Export for small amounts of pages. for full dumps of wikipedia, go to download.wikimedia.org [13:50:13] RoanKattouw: ill have a look. i might even have that installed. (it becomes core I think for 1.14). hmm [13:50:22] RoanKattouw: what's in the pipeline for the api ? [13:50:30] No, Nuke isn't in core anymore, Brion reverted it [13:50:40] exobuzz: Currently? bug 15995 [13:50:52] Maybe bug 16006 if Brion agrees [13:51:03] checking. [13:51:16] And redirect resolution in action=parse [13:51:33] <^demon> I'm not 100% on-board with this new push to put things in Core. [13:52:06] <_mary_kate_> there are some things that clearly should be in core, like newuserlog [13:52:20] Hello. [13:52:21] <^demon> Poem is arguable :-p [13:52:34] 15995 can be done by telling it where to start, and calling continue until you reach one which matches your "end" right ? [13:52:37] Can I run more than one site on a single Mediawiki installation in Debian or Ubuntu? [13:52:49] partially anyway [13:52:59] Pupeno, yes, let me find a link for you [13:53:01] 16006 = cool! [13:53:06] enable it! :D [13:53:37] it is enabled on wikipedia though .. so you mean with the shipped mediawiki ? [13:53:47] s/shipped/packaged [13:54:09] Pupeno, try http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ#Is_it_possible_to_install_more_than_one_wiki_.28MediaWiki.29_on_a_server.3F_How.3F for some ideas [13:54:53] Thanks. [13:54:55] 03(mod) Add rcuser= and rcexcludeuser==?UTF-8?Q?=20=C3=A0=20la=20prop?= =revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14200 (10roan.kattouw) [13:55:05] 03(mod) Add rd_interwiki colum to redirect table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14418 (10roan.kattouw) [13:56:01] 03(NEW) Schema change rotation script (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16012 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (roan.kattouw) [13:56:05] 03(mod) Add rcuser= and rcexcludeuser==?UTF-8?Q?=20=C3=A0=20la=20prop?= =revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14200 (10roan.kattouw) [13:56:11] 03(mod) Add rd_interwiki colum to redirect table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14418 (10roan.kattouw) [13:56:23] 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2007 (10roan.kattouw) [13:56:29] Pupeno, also see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ#How_do_I_create_a_small_wiki_farm.3F [13:56:30] exobuzz: Well it's really about having sortkey-based counterparts to cmstart and cmend [13:56:41] exobuzz: Which also means we can get rid of cmcontinue [13:57:18] exobuzz: Yes. If 16006 is fixed, 1.14 installs will have $wgEnableWriteAPI = true; by default [14:01:50] Oh wait. We can't get rid of cmcontinue, because multiple pages can have the same sortkey [14:04:30] <^demon> Roan: Wouldn't the schema change script _block_ the schema changes, not depend on them? [14:04:57] No, it's a tracking bug [14:05:11] Tracking bugs depend on the things they track, and block the mother of tracking bugs (bug 2007) [14:05:40] You're right that it's kind of counter-intuitive [14:05:51] <^demon> Duh :-p [14:05:53] Actually, you're right :P [14:06:32] 03(mod) Schema change rotation script (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16012 (10roan.kattouw) [14:06:41] 03(mod) Add rcuser= and rcexcludeuser==?UTF-8?Q?=20=C3=A0=20la=20prop?= =revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14200 (10roan.kattouw) [14:06:51] 03(mod) Add rd_interwiki colum to redirect table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14418 (10roan.kattouw) [14:12:33] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs advanced configuration on Russian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 +comment (10klueklue) [14:14:41] 03(NEW) Possibility to link to particular section of [[Special: Preferences]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16013 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User preferences; (Eugene.Zelenko) [14:16:15] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs advanced configuration on Russian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 (10klueklue) [14:18:30] *sigh* any BugZilla admins around? [14:19:04] 14(DUP) Enable FlaggedRevs advanced configuration on Russian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 +comment (10klueklue) [14:19:11] 03(mod) Allow global renaming of global users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14862 +comment (10klueklue) [14:19:47] 03(CLOSED) Enable FlaggedRevs advanced configuration on Russian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 (10klueklue) [14:20:01] _mary_kate_: Are you a BugZilla admin? [14:21:05] and brion won't be around before 1 hour or so [14:21:27] is there a way to check if a string contains a substring in parserfunctions? [14:21:31] 03(mod) Brion's young penis likes Obersachse's pink ass very much - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 summary (10klueklue) [14:22:43] piksi: If there is, it's in StringFunctions [14:24:18] RoanKattouw: ah of course, thanks [14:24:31] 04(REOPENED) Enable FlaggedRevs advanced configuration on Russian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 summary (10guillom.pom) [14:26:41] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs advanced configuration on Russian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 (10roan.kattouw) [14:27:10] 03catrope * r42169 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQueryCategoryMembers.php): [14:27:10] * API: (bug 15995) Added cmstartsortkey and cmendsortkey parameters to list=categorymembers, mirroring cmstart and cmend for timestamps [14:27:10] * Drop useless and possibly filesorting ORDER BY cl_to from list=categorymembers [14:27:10] * Handle ORDER BY cl_sortkey, cl_from (possibly with DESC appended to each of them) with addWhereRange() calls [14:27:19] 03(FIXED) categorymembers (list module) new parameter request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15995 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [14:27:26] exobuzz: There you go [14:31:58] is is possible to select entries from a specific page, somewhat like how dpl selects pages based on categories? [14:33:23] transclusion? [14:33:51] what I'm trying to create is a dynamic news page, which just selects the top N entries from a news page. Since these news entries are quite small, I think it's overkill creating a separate page for each one [14:43:02] doos: I don't think transclusion can be used for that [14:43:25] no [14:52:08] <^demon> Might want to look at DynamicPageList [14:52:25] <^demon> !dpl [14:52:25] --mwbot-- The DynamicPageList (DPL) extension outputs reports based on criteria given in a special tag. For more information, see and . [14:52:54] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs advanced configuration on Russian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 +comment (10idburn) [14:55:44] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs advanced configuration on Russian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 +comment (10mountainblueallah) [15:00:46] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs advanced configuration on Russian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 (10nevermindus) [15:02:09] oh please [15:09:44] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs advanced configuration on Russian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 +comment (10lozmanlozzy) [15:11:37] http://api.flickr.com/services/feeds/photos_public.gne?id=68497070@N00&lang=en-us&format=lol - MW should have lol format :P [15:19:45] 14(DUP) Enable FlaggedRevs advanced configuration on Russian Wikiquote - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 +comment (10thewrongman) [15:19:57] 03(mod) Moving an unflagged page A to a flagged page B inherits flag status of B - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14251 +comment (10thewrongman) [15:20:49] 03(CLOSED) Enable FlaggedRevs advanced configuration on Russian Wikiquote - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 +comment (10thewrongman) [15:21:31] 03(mod) FUCK ASS OF BRION VIBBER! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 summary (10thewrongman) [15:22:34] 03(mod) FUCK ASS OF BRION VIBBER! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 normal->04BLOCKER; normal->highest (10thewrongman) [15:22:48] o_o [15:23:26] 03(mod) FUCK ASS OF BRION VIBBER! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 (10thewrongman) [15:23:34] <^demon> Can SOMEONE please block him? [15:23:49] does anyone besides brion have rights on bugzilla? [15:23:59] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs on Ru.wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 summary (10innocentkiller) [15:24:07] <^demon> ^ Less annoying summary [15:24:15] <^demon> Charitwo: Tim, Siebrand I believe. [15:24:27] TimStarling: poke [15:24:35] 03(mod) FUCK ASS OF BRION VIBBER! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 summary (10thewrongman) [15:24:47] Okay.. [15:24:57] <^demon> Ok this is getting old. [15:25:23] 03(mod) FUCK ASS OF BRION VIBBER! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 +comment (10thewrongman) [15:26:13] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs on Ru.wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 summary (10charitwo) [15:26:39] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs on Ru.wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 +comment (10innocentkiller) [15:26:49] <^demon> Removed all the cc's so people don't get spammed on this. [15:27:06] heh [15:27:25] can we blacklist russian and flagged revs from the same sentence? :P [15:27:41] or lock that bug [15:28:01] <^demon> Mike_lifeguard: I was complaining about no action=protect yesterday :) [15:28:10] no kidding [15:28:37] even the spam in wikibugs-l is bad enough, much less if you were cc'd on it [15:29:02] 03(mod) FUCK ASS OF BRION VIBBER! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 (10thewrongman) [15:29:18] <^demon> Has anyone asked in #wikimedia-tech for a BZ admin yet? [15:29:25] siebrand is away :( [15:29:39] 03(mod) FUCK ASS OF BRION VIBBER! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 (10thewrongman) [15:30:05] <^demon> Who wants to spam his e-mail address? [15:30:06] <^demon> :-p [15:30:06] 03(mod) FUCK ASS OF BRION VIBBER! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 (10thewrongman) [15:30:22] 03(mod) FUCK ASS OF BRION VIBBER! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 (10thewrongman) [15:30:25] brion needs a bat phone # [15:30:25] <^demon> Are any ops around? We could silence wikibugs for the moment... [15:30:37] _mary_kate_: ping [15:30:54] So I can see him [15:31:13] i gotta go, bye [15:32:00] *Reedy watches ^demon become mad with power [15:32:09] <^demon> I reassigned it to him so he spams himself instead of wikibugs. [15:32:18] haha [15:32:37] ^demon: wrong trick [15:32:50] Wikibugs gets all mail [15:33:05] <^demon> Even if it's not assigned to it or anywhere on the cc list? [15:33:44] Yes [15:33:44] <^demon> Damn. [15:33:44] <^demon> I tried. [15:33:44] ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- [15:33:44] You are watching all bug changes. [15:33:44] <^demon> In any case, at least he's spamming himself. [15:33:56] He doesn't care [15:34:00] <^demon> This is true. [15:34:10] He creates mailboxes on free post services [15:34:16] <^demon> Is this the same troll as the "homophobia on meta" guy? [15:34:56] ^demon: they are the same family [15:36:22] heh, troll families [15:36:39] <^demon> And not the colorful ones kids played with in the 90s, either :-p [15:36:47] <^demon> Colored hair and the like. [15:37:52] The comments in this bug are the *strangest* I have ever seen in my life: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 [15:38:16] <^demon> chuck: The homophobia ones were really funny too. [15:38:55] chuck: yes, they have nicks of people which participated in 2006-07 gay conflict in ruwiki [15:39:11] <^demon> There was a gay conflict in ruwiki? [15:39:55] wtf is a "gay conflict" [15:40:13] *Mike_lifeguard imagines the fags going to war XD [15:40:13] On ruwiki WP:HOMO is a shortcut to massive arbcom enforcement where many users were restricted from editing sexuality-related articles [15:40:22] :O [15:40:44] dangerous emoticon Mike_lifeguard [15:41:09] lol [15:41:12] *Mike_lifeguard throws some :P towards doos [15:41:19] *^demon is going to be the commander of the gay armies :-p [15:41:46] <^demon> Anyway, I'm off to lunch. Good luck tracking down a BZ admin guys. [15:42:22] MountainBlueAllah is a sockpuppeter troll which managed to create 2 other users who also had sockpuppets and even managed to influence elections of ArbCom with ~70 (?) puppets [15:42:23] =S [15:42:29] I hope this isn't how the entire Russian Wiki* is? [15:44:31] "this is a critical request to the Wikipedia community! We all die if FR does not make within 12 hours!" [15:44:54] *Simetrical keeps reading, WTF?! [15:45:24] *Simetrical remembers for the future that Brion is TURKISH AGENTS AND ENEMY OF SCIENCE [15:46:05] lolol [15:46:57] woot [15:51:20] Hi there, where can I find information on how to add more editing tools to the edit page in my wiki? [15:55:59] 03mej * r42170 10/trunk/extensions/uniwiki/ (4 files in 2 dirs): updated script and CustomToolbar extension [16:05:44] Hey siebrand [16:05:50] how can I make text passed as argument to a template be properly formatted? In particular paragraphs don't seem to work, unless I specify some other element, like lists as well [16:06:00] hi str4nd. [16:07:04] siebrand: Do you have full access to bugzilla? [16:07:20] str4nd: aside from system access, yes [16:07:34] siebrand: Have you noticed bug 14863? [16:07:48] str4nd: nope. [16:07:49] check that out :/ [16:09:08] str4nd: some disgruntled asshole is spamming Wikimedia all over. We even had the guy on Betawiki. [16:10:05] "great" [16:10:05] str4nd: bugzilla does not keep versions, and we cannot block users. [16:10:34] o_O.. ip block? [16:10:44] str4nd: so without knowing what exactly changed, the only thing I can do it block the users (in which case it is quite easy to create another one). You, or anyone else, could try and put the issue's status and description right. TimStarling can completely delete an entry if needed. [16:11:11] str4nd: no ip blocks, only registered users blocks, with is useless. [16:11:24] okay [16:12:19] str4nd: so if you write the right bot, you can basically fuck up the complete bugzilla in minutes. [16:12:27] Where can I find information on how to add more editing tools to the edit page in my wiki? Didn't get a response yet, just wondering if anyone has any ideas. I had the mediawiki link, but seemed to have lost it. [16:15:56] 03mej * r42171 10/trunk/extensions/uniwiki/make-uniwiki: updated make-uniwiki script to use mediawiki-1.13.2 [16:21:50] hi brion [16:22:17] wazzap [16:22:49] brion: trolls came again [16:24:08] VasilievVV: :O [16:24:20] VasilievVV: that ban didn't work - i was able to join ;) [16:24:32] Thehelpfulone: my bug [16:24:52] brion: Is there a way I can delete comments in bugzilla? (guess not :() -> 14863 [16:26:02] is it possible to change the icons used in the edit toolbar? [16:26:04] str4nd: I blocked 4-5 accounts from that issue, but that's all I can do for now... [16:26:38] siebrand: i think they have to be manually removed from the db [16:27:05] Damn bugzilla [16:27:10] brion: bugzilla is quite vulnerable to this type of vandalism. No ip blocked, no history. [16:27:32] I understand they are open-source optimists,but they are too optimistic [16:27:34] brion: and no mailing list archive (which could serve a purpose) [16:28:00] <^demon> Wow, what an interesting lunch. [16:28:09] <^demon> My coworker almost got mauled by a DHL van. [16:28:17] ouch. [16:28:33] 03mej * r42172 10/trunk/extensions/uniwiki/UniwikiSettings.php: added UniwikiSettings.php for default UNIWIKI config [16:28:34] siebrand: can you stick some links together for me and i'll go take a look? [16:28:46] <^demon> Did someone block the Russian "KILL BRION!" troll? [16:28:54] !bugzilla 14863 | brion [16:28:54] --mwbot-- brion: All bugs in MediaWiki should be reported at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org. This is also the place to request site configuration changes, new features or enhancements to existing features, although bear the following points in mind before making a feature/enhancement request: 1) If the request is specific to a Wikimedia wiki, please discuss the issue on that wiki first. 2) Consider whether a custom extension would be more appropriate. [16:28:56] ^demon: yes [16:29:05] damn. [16:29:06] Nice message :) [16:29:10] !bug 14863 | brion [16:29:10] --mwbot-- brion: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 [16:29:12] That didn't work out as I expected. [16:29:23] siebrand: wrong prefix [16:29:32] *siebrand thanks VasilievVV. [16:29:48] <^demon> Oh wow, I got a compliment too on it :) [16:29:51] <^demon> Comment #44. [16:30:18] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on RussianWikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 04BLOCKER->normal; highest->normal; summary (10paul.copperman) [16:30:21] does anyone know what "uniwiki' is about? [16:33:08] 03mej * r42173 10/trunk/extensions/uniwiki/UniwikiSettings.php: removed settings from UniwikiSettings.php [16:33:35] Simetrical: only on that bug, or? [16:33:51] brion, what? [16:34:02] Did you mean to say that to siebrand? [16:34:28] siebrand: "Appends a list of contributors to articles" [16:34:47] brion: possibly more, but I just got on IRC and do not have a subscription to all bugs. I think I did notie that he's been closing as duplicate, too. [16:36:47] brion: he's been having a ball 2 or 3 times earlier. At those times, I think Tim spent some time on it. I would estimate he's kept bugzilla users busy for at least 2 hours cleaning up. [16:38:05] <^demon> Not to mention, we had to silence mwbot to keep it from flooding the channel. [16:38:12] How do I make the LogPage addEntry function parse the $comment parameter? [16:38:18] <^demon> rather, wikibugs [16:39:31] ^demon: that is quite a bad descision, I think. As there is no archive for wikibugs, this is the only localisation where you will have an overview of changes, spammy or not... [16:39:54] location, that is :) [16:39:54] <^demon> The wikibugs-l list still got them. [16:40:01] <^demon> We just silenced the channel bot for a bit. [16:40:27] ^demon: wikibugs-l does not have an archive, or does it somewhere else? [16:40:43] siebrand: it doesn't [16:40:51] But I have it on my gmail account [16:41:26] I may actually set something up to catch bug mails and make a "bug history" tool on toolserver [16:41:43] VasilievVV: that would be extremely sweet. [16:41:59] VasilievVV: although you could also provide a patch for bugzilla ;) [16:42:10] Does anyone here know how to get LogPage's addEntry() to parse the wikitext in $comment? [16:42:47] VasilievVV: Mantis keeps a nice history: http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=9374&history=1#history [16:44:08] siebrand: or we can migrate from bugzilla to something else. Maybe some MW extension? [16:44:33] Anyone know about my log question? [16:44:52] VasilievVV: nah, we make wikis, not bugtrackers, I think (i.e. waste of effort from my POV). [16:45:23] chuck: how do you mean "parse comment"? [16:45:23] 03demon * r42174 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeTagListView.php: Minor tweak to the status messages. If we're going to define $msg, might as well use it universally. [16:45:41] siebrand: well, bugzilla is written in Perl [16:47:05] 03(mod) SVN proxy error when purging diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15943 (10innocentkiller) [16:47:45] *brion grumble grumble [16:47:52] ok which table does bugzilla keep the damn comments in? [16:47:59] i know i've done this before [16:48:56] <^demon> brion: http://www.faqs.org/docs/bugzilla/dbschema.html - a bit old, but somewhat helpful? [16:49:09] VasilievVV: Like parse wikitext inside of a log comment? [16:49:11] ^demon: i'm already looking at that [16:49:14] and at the live database [16:49:26] function addEntry( $action, $target, $comment, $params = array(), $doer = null ) { [16:49:52] chuck: some bit of comment parsing is somewhere in Linker class. Except that - no [16:50:06] <^demon> brion: longdescs? [16:50:09] <^demon> Guessing here, but seems right [16:50:12] maybe [16:51:12] ok, lessee what i can do with this [16:51:13] VasilievVV: Well what would you suggest if I want to make a log entry have a link to a URL? [16:51:14] <^demon> Speaking of BZ, how many admins do we have for it? If it's a very small number, might it be worth adding an additional 1 or 2, just to deal with things like blocking trolls? [16:51:49] chuck: hack Linker? [16:52:21] ^demon, do we have trolls also at bugzilla? [16:52:29] <^demon> Did today. [16:52:33] :( [16:52:35] And yesterday [16:52:51] <^demon> !b 14863 | Platonides [16:52:51] --mwbot-- Platonides: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 [16:52:58] <^demon> If brion hasn't already purged the comments. [16:53:11] \o/ mwbot's alive [16:53:56] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on RussianWikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 (10brion) [16:55:13] so much (deleted) comments... [16:55:20] woot [16:59:08] *Simetrical files a semiannual request for brion to look at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11270, particularly the last two comments [17:02:20] *siebrand pats Simetrical on the head, as b_rion needs to review the current diff, scap, and resolve bug 44 first. [17:06:56] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on Russian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 summary; +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [17:07:08] Simetrical: does the January patch apply cleanly? [17:07:32] brion, I don't know, but if you're willing to have it committed I'll figure out (although not this second, I guess). [17:07:46] the padding hacks feel kind of weird to me [17:08:39] and it wouldn't hurt to stick a quickie screenshot on the bug for reference :) [17:09:35] 03ialex * r42175 10/trunk/extensions/uniwiki/ (.make-uniwiki-settings UniwikiSettings.php make-uniwiki): svn:eol-style native [17:13:37] hello, my mediawiki site suspended by Bluehost. reason: high queries [17:13:41] DELETE /* MediaWikiBagOStuff::_doquery 74.6.17.180 */ FROM `objectcache` WHERE keyname='noolaham_wiki:messages:ta:status' [17:13:49] this is the problemetic query [17:13:55] takes 20 secs [17:14:04] can anyone know about this query? [17:14:31] do you know what script does wikipedia use to directly move back to the article with the returnto -value after logging in? [17:15:08] 03(NEW) Error generating thumbnail - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16014 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [17:15:58] mauran, either find lighter-weight wiki software or find a less stupid host. [17:16:10] piksi, it's a built-in feature in 1.14. [17:16:24] Simetrical, is it a normal query? [17:16:29] mauran, yes. [17:17:06] from where it is coming (from which functinality?) [17:17:23] why MW using this query? [17:18:55] the query is a perfectly normal query [17:19:07] under normal circumstances it would take less than 0.1 seconds [17:19:14] clearly your host has issues with its mysql databases [17:19:37] it is part of teh caching so that often used stuff is much easier to access, therefore making your wiki faster [17:20:32] logs saying it took 20 sec. and listed it under high queries [17:20:52] I'll recheck the logs and come back to you [17:20:53] well it is not mediawiki's fault - it is the fault of your host [17:21:09] any idea to fix it? [17:21:12] it may well be taking 20 seconds - the point is that it shouldn't be [17:21:14] what can be the fault [17:21:21] Simetrical: awesome to hear that, thanks [17:21:30] you'll need to ask your host, perhaps the table needs optimizing [17:21:33] Under normal circumstances it should take something like a millisecond or less. [17:21:34] no need for extensions for that :-) [17:21:40] ohh [17:21:49] thanks.. I'll try to optimize my DB [17:21:55] Unless the server is under ridiculous load or something. [17:22:01] Optimizing the table is unlikely to help. [17:22:37] piksi, I also wanted to put the login form on the same page as the permissions error, so you could skip that extra page load too, but that looked considerably more involved. [17:23:08] thanks for your helpbluehost said, "your account is killing box with mySQL queries needs to check his mysql_sloq_queries he currently has: 3640 of them: It appears his MEDIA WIKI is killing MySQL on the box" [17:24:00] Simetrical: thanks again for the info, i'm waiting anxiously for 1.14 release [17:24:23] they don't sound very competent [17:24:37] piksi: It is unlikely it will be released for another few months at least. [17:24:50] mauran, MediaWiki is a relatively heavy-weight wiki package. You might want to try a different, lighter-weight one, like DokuWiki or something. On the other hand, your host sounds like an idiot. [17:25:24] we cant move to another wiki, media wiki is the best option fro our need [17:25:37] then it would be advisable to get a better host [17:25:41] anyway, I'll try to get some bigger package from Bluehost [17:25:48] no, that won't help [17:25:51] On the other hand, your host sounds like an idiot. <- lol [17:25:56] haha [17:25:58] :-) [17:26:12] that sounds like a host who is cramming too many accounts on too low end hardware [17:26:23] propably trying to save in costs in every way they can [17:26:29] mauran: The issue has nothing to do with your package, your host is jsut not very good or too overcrowded - the only real solution is to move to a better host. [17:26:42] MinuteElectron: sounds like big changes, then? any list on the upcoming planned changes? [17:27:15] piksi: There might be in the RELEASE-NOTES of 1.14 in svn - but there are always big changes in every release. The current release schedule is once every 3 to 6 months [17:27:34] haha, it's not good to ask it here, answer if you like, any good hosts around the internet? [17:27:59] i know only good finnish hosts :-) [17:28:01] 03(NEW) MediaWiki:Categorytree-member-num needs   - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16015 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [17:28:01] MinuteElectron: thanks, i'll read the changelog from the svn [17:28:10] ok [17:29:00] thanks for your kind advice.. [17:29:06] thank you everybody [17:29:11] see ya later [17:32:09] piksi, releases are just snapshots of trunk that someone takes whenever they can be bothered. There are no actual release plans, we do purely incremental development. [17:33:11] Simetrical: yeah but i've always read that just taking a snapshot from the current branch is not recommended, and i guess quite many extension writers only check against the "releases" ? [17:34:16] piksi, when we take the snapshot we wait a while before releasing it and incorporate bug fixes and so forth, plus we maintain it with security announcements and so on, yes. Third parties are not recommended to use trunk unless they really know what they're doing. [17:34:38] Although you could copy the patch to your copy if you like, to just get that one feature. It should apply fairly cleanly to 1.13, IIRC. [17:35:50] Simetrical: i'm a wimp so i'll wait for 1.14 ;-) [17:35:53] piksi, if you apply the patches to SpecialUserlogin.php and MessagesEn.php from here, it should work. http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/?view=rev&revision=40621 [17:36:13] (in English only, you'd need to copy the appropriate message(s) from trunk language files for those to work) [17:36:27] Actually, no, you only need to copy the patch to SpecialUserlogin.php. [17:36:40] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialUserlogin.php?view=patch&r1=40621&r2=40620&pathrev=40621 [17:37:12] (it might break . . . is OutputPage::addWikiMsg in 1.13? I can't remember) [17:40:45] hi folks - i'm trying to find the simple way of setting hte graphic in the upper left corner of mediawiki. not the 'headbg.jpg' - tha'ts fine, this ,usually, a corporate logo or something [17:40:58] !logo | eidolon [17:40:58] --mwbot-- eidolon: The logo that appears in the top left of each page is determined by the $wgLogo configuration setting in the LocalSettings.php file. To change this you simply need to change the value of $wgLogo to point to the URL of your own logo image. See for more information. [17:41:11] *eidolon knew it was an faq. :) [17:41:12] thanks :) [17:41:59] hi Simetrical [17:52:40] <^demon> eidolon: Do we know each other? [17:54:42] i dunno, do we? :) [17:55:03] <^demon> Turns out we don't. Thought you were a friend of mine who has used that same nick before :) [17:55:13] <^demon> Just talked to him, and he's not you. [17:58:34] ah, sorry :) [17:58:41] *eidolon has been using 'eidolon' for about 3 years now. [18:00:14] lol [18:03:37] hey [18:03:52] anyone round who wants to help me w/ some css prob? [18:04:11] http://paintchat.game-server.cc/menu.php => why ae there no borders around each li element? [18:05:26] HardDisk_WP: because your CSS for the a element has a random f in it [18:05:31] how can i disable mwEditButtons[]? [18:05:40] which is preventing the next rule from being parsed [18:05:46] i wrote some mwCustomEditButtons's [18:06:13] Skizzerz, beter now? [18:06:48] also, it should be border-color, not just border [18:07:12] done, still nothing :( [18:07:24] and/or border: 2px solid #000000 or something like that [18:07:53] ah... [18:07:58] border-style:solid ^^ [18:07:59] thanks [18:09:10] Skizzerz, how can I disable the circles before each li element [18:09:24] try googling "css tutorial" [18:09:31] w3 has a good one [18:09:48] kk [18:15:20] Skizzerz, do you know how I change the indent of the li elements? margin does not help [18:15:29] okay guys [18:15:32] when i do a
[18:15:33] no idea [18:15:33] Where can I find information on how to add more editing tools to the edit page in my wiki? Didn't get a response yet, just wondering if anyone has any ideas. I had the mediawiki link, but seemed to have lost it. [18:15:52] it creates a

how do i make it so that

is not created inside the dic [18:15:53] div [19:01:28] The link to http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/05/jbartsh_utf-8.html in UPGRADE (for pre 1.5 mediawiki) does not work anymore. Maybe someone who knows about that stuff can update it... [19:13:53] any developers here [19:13:54] ? [19:14:50] Where do you enable file uploads on the wiki/ [19:14:51] ? [19:14:57] second [19:16:19] in LocalSettings.php [19:16:25] find $wgEnableUploads = false; [19:16:30] cahnge it to true [19:17:04] shit, what is the default directory your mediawiki is in? [19:17:17] i haven't messed with the config file in a while [19:17:22] i think it's www/ something [19:17:27] var/www ok thanks [19:18:43] what does ImageMagick do? [19:19:25] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads [19:19:32] ^ There's the manual. [19:20:00] thank you [19:21:07] I would like to write several chapters in my wiki? I have a lot of citation that won't work as a footnote. I would like to have all my citation and books on a seperate page is that possible and is there any simple example? (all what i found is citation that can be linked on the same page) [19:24:44] in order to upload images, i have to make the directory writable. which chmod command will make my images_auth.php writeable? [19:25:01] or is that even the file i have to make writable [19:28:15] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on Russian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 (10ferrer126) [19:33:07] just had to chmod my images directory. nevermind. [19:38:32] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on Russian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 (10Aleksandriti) [19:46:09] 03ialex * r42176 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (CHANGELOG Configure.php Configure.settings-core.php): Added $wgMaxShellTime [19:49:12] 03(mod) Illogical XML in sitematrix API output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14955 (10Bryan.TongMinh) [19:55:57] wc [20:06:53] 03raymond * r42177 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [20:06:53] * (bug 15717) Set $separatorTransformTable for language 'eu' [20:06:53] * Fixes reference to the no longer present LanguageIs.php on Language.php [20:07:51] 03(FIXED) Need to change the comma to point and viceversa - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15717 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [20:13:02] Hi, I'm trying to install MediaWiki, but it fails, [20:13:19] here is the error: [20:13:22] http://pastebin.com/d3573081d [20:14:11] it has problems conencting to postgresql [20:14:22] which mediawiki version? [20:14:56] the link indicating the last one [20:15:56] I have re-checked 3 times, the name of the DB is good, the name of the DB user is good, and the password too [20:16:06] it's 1.13.2 :S [20:16:32] Yes, this is this one [20:17:29] should I use another one ? [20:17:55] no, it's the latest [20:23:09] each time I re-check, re-try and the error is the same... [20:26:26] hm... when launching an irc bot or something from cron, does it need nohup? [20:26:36] *Duesentrieb guesses yes. [20:28:17] I don't think nohup is generally necessary with cron [20:28:30] since it's not actually launching from a terminal [20:29:10] hi [20:29:24] does anybody know how to proof if a string is a numerical value in a template? [20:30:00] I don't see why you would want to launch an IRC bot from cron, though; it should only be necessary to launch it when the machine reboots or the bot dies unexpectedly, right? [20:30:46] which is Tim's bugzilla email? [20:31:09] tstarling at wikimedia [20:31:42] ok, wasn't sure [20:32:57] 03(NEW) getShellLocale() - Undefined variable: wikiLang - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16016 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (Platonides) [20:34:34] *Emufarmers pokes brion [20:34:46] wot [20:34:55] Can you take another look at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1306 ? :D [20:35:32] + if( !wgEnableEmail || !$wgEnableUserEmail ) { [20:35:37] missing a $, won't work right [20:35:49] Emufarmers: the point is to automatically relaunch it when it dies, or to launch it after the machine reboots, yes. especially also if home dir's arn't mounted immediatly on boot, too. [20:36:05] Emufarmers: this would be quite helpful for mwbot, for instance. [20:36:34] otherwise looks ok [20:36:56] should I resubmit it or can you just fix it? [20:37:59] Duesentrieb: I thought nohup only stopped a process from dying when the terminal user logs off? [20:38:38] 03raymond * r42178 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/messages/MessagesHr.php): * (bug 15605) Enabled $datePreferences for language 'hr'. Added standard date preferences. [20:39:20] Emufarmers: somethign like that. i'm a bit blurry about the concept of a login shell, etc. in the case of launching from tron, the user may not be logged in at all. [20:39:34] right [20:40:27] 03(FIXED) enabling datePreferences for hr - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15605 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [20:50:37] Duesentrieb: you probably need something like http://www.yolinux.com/HOWTO/Process-Monitor-HOWTO.html unless init is capable of monitoring (and not just startup). Of course, in principle, the bot should be debugged to the point where fatal errors aren't cropping up, right? :) [20:51:34] i have never seen it fail short of not coming back up after reboots [20:51:40] but i'm working on a general script to handle this [20:52:21] If it's just post-reboot stuff, then you should be able to add an entry for /etc/init.d [20:52:33] or cron, with @reboot [20:52:43] but this often fails, if home dirs are mounted via nfs [20:52:49] :( [20:52:50] either because they are mounted too late [20:53:00] or because the mount fails and is fixed only later, by hand [20:53:27] Emufarmers: anyway, thanks for that link :) [20:53:38] You could have the startup script check whether the dirs are mounted and sleep for a little while and then try again if it fails [20:54:57] Or, yeah, just cron every set period of time to start it if it's not running :D [20:57:37] that's the plan [20:57:55] after starting, save pid to a file. then check for that pid. [20:58:05] the question is... do i need nohup? [20:58:26] no [21:00:50] You MIGHT need & after it so that it runs as a background process, but I wouldn't swear to it [21:01:26] Wow, bug 14863 has been spammed a bit :) Thanks to whoever removed my CC, t managed to fill my mailbox anyway [21:02:34] <^demon|busy> MattJohnston: I had to clear the cc's like 4-5 times. [21:03:44] ^demon: Thanks though, good idea :) [21:04:08] <^demon> Now if only I could keep my localhost apache running...seems to want to kill itself right after starting and staying up about 1 minute. [21:04:56] Error log? [21:05:03] <^demon> Nothing helpful, it seems. [21:05:15] Windows or linux? [21:06:01] If windows, sometimes things go in the app event log instead of apaches internal log for no reason [21:06:17] <^demon> Windows. [21:06:28] <^demon> And this is odd. Got it up, and saw a php error I've never seen before: [21:06:29] <^demon> Fatal error: Cannot run code from this file in conjunction with non encoded files in C:\xampp\htdocs\wiki\includes\Defines.php on line 42 [21:06:35] {{cite book | last = Mumford | first = David | authorlink = David Mumford | title = The Red Book of V | publisher = [[Springer]] | location = Berlin | date = 1999 | pages = 198-203 | doi = 10.1007/b62130 | isbn = 354063293X }}. I try to reference a book on my media wiki. I have used the above mentioned tag. i get Citation Book as a result without any auther, book title, ... etc. Is citation on media wiki is the s [21:06:35] ame as wikipedia or it has another method of citataion [21:07:01] <^demon> sphenxes: You have to copy the "Cite book" template from en.wiki to your wiki. [21:07:10] <^demon> And any sub-templates cite book uses. [21:07:37] ^demon, thanks i will give it a try [21:08:44] ^demon: Do you have a PHP accelerator or something running? [21:09:57] <^demon> Emufarmers: APC, but I've had it running before with no problems. [21:11:30] <^demon> Hmmm, disabled APC and my problems are gone.... [21:12:06] http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Cannot+run+code+from+this+file+in+conjunction+with+non+encoded+files+%22+apc D: [21:13:58] <^demon> All I was doing is running localhost/wiki :-p [21:14:03] <^demon> Which is trunk [21:14:04] <^demon> Hehe [21:15:13] <^demon> Anyways, back up and running and I'm off work. Later people. [21:15:40] how do I get page counts next to the category names, like this: http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategori:Finland [21:20:00] harriv: I think that's http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree [21:21:24] similar page in en-wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Finland - there's no page counts [21:36:21] 14(DUP) Feature request: allow background color setting for tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15462 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [21:36:21] 03(mod) Option: Change the background color to transparent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [21:43:16] greetings [21:43:58] 03(mod) Option: Change the background color to transparent (texvc) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8 summary; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [21:44:47] Does somebody know, how toy restrict article edition by groups? [21:46:31] 03(mod) Error generating thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16014 normal->highest; +comment (10phoenixct) [21:46:45] rodaeche: Does somebody know, how toy restrict article edition by groups? [21:46:59] *how to [22:18:10] 03(mod) categorymembers (list module) new parameter request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15995 (10thecentercannothold) [22:20:20] 03(mod) categorymembers (list module) new parameter request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15995 (10Bryan.TongMinh) [22:20:21] 03brion * r42179 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Skin.php includes/User.php): [22:20:21] * (bug 1306) 'Email user' link no longer shown on user page when emailing [22:20:21] is not available due to lack of confirmed address or disabled preference [22:20:42] 03(FIXED) Suppress the "email this user" link in the toolbox if said user has opted not to/can't receive emails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1306 +comment (10brion) [22:21:53] 03(mod) categorymembers (list module) new parameter request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15995 (10roan.kattouw) [22:22:36] hello, I'm stuck trying to install 1.11.2 [22:22:56] Checking that tsearch2 is installed in the database "wikidb"...FAILED [22:23:14] but got psql (PostgreSQL) 8.3.4 [22:23:25] can somebody help? [22:24:48] 03brion * r42180 10/trunk/extensions/LogEntry/LogEntry.body.php: Quick tweak -- use gmdate() instead of date() here. We're using UTC time on Wikitech log, but the server's time is set to EST/EDT so date() times don't match [22:26:06] I'm on CentOS 5 and that's the latest postgres+mediawiki rpms I can get [22:26:17] should I be better off download MW source? [22:26:52] yes [22:27:12] no point running it from a package [22:27:25] ok thank you very much exobuzz [22:27:32] np [22:28:41] <^demon> Unless your repo keeps it up to date (as Fedora has seemingly been doing?) [22:33:15] my problem has really been an outer dependence [22:33:27] postgresql and mediawiki as provided by centos go along well [22:34:03] but for other reasons I had to dnload another newr pg version and that screwed it all up [22:34:17] leasson learned, don't listen to your users [22:34:23] stick to your distro packaging [22:34:33] thank you very much people [22:50:31] brion: BugZilla seems to be broken: "SendMail error when trying to close pipe" or something along those lines [22:50:40] There was an error sending mail from 'bugzilla-daemon@mail.wikimedia.org' to 'vasilvv@gmail.com':error when closing pipe to /usr/lib/sendmail: [22:50:45] is the exact error message [22:51:14] RoanKattouw: that happens intermittently [22:51:16] has for ages [22:51:32] Well the point is nobody gets bugmail about those changes [22:51:43] And wikibugs doesn't pick it up [22:52:12] *brion hmms [22:54:52] brion: if committer and commentors are enotifed on comment for CodeReview, should that use the jobqueue? [22:55:10] I don't want things getting hung up sending to 10 users [22:56:01] AaronSchulz: That's how most other software i've used does mass-mailing (although I dont know about how MW does it) [22:56:08] AaronSchulz: BugZilla doesn't hang... [22:56:58] MattJohnston: the mass mailing for changes on edit uses JQ [22:57:25] In that case, probably a reason behind doing it that way :) [22:57:46] well, those can be in the hundreds [22:58:01] so it is obvious there, more borderline in the case of CR [22:58:47] http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/pgStory?contentId=8654338&MSNHPHCP>1=39002#sport=COLLEGE%20FOOTBALL&photo=8652372 [22:58:51] :( ??? [23:00:41] ok, mail server broke mysteriously fo ra little bit [23:00:48] RoanKattouw: we restarted it [23:00:56] and i told bugzilla to send out mails that didn't get sent [23:01:02] Good [23:01:14] Ah that explains why I sometimes get bugmail about three day-old bugs [23:01:33] Kind of confusing to first get the e-mail about someone adding a CC to a bug and getting the bug creation e-mail two hours later [23:01:39] Happened some time this week [23:03:57] :D [23:05:20] *AaronSchulz pokes brion [23:06:20] <^demon> Does anyone know of a repo that has php-pgsql? Can't find one to save my life. [23:10:01] 03(NEW) Need a username parameter in query-continue for API usercontribs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16018 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (herd) [23:10:14] RoanKattouw, ^ people like keeping you busy ;) [23:10:36] 03(ASSIGNED) Need a username parameter in query-continue for API usercontribs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16018 (10roan.kattouw) [23:10:37] Oh yeah [23:10:40] Even at 1 AM [23:10:44] lol [23:10:46] 18 api bugs [23:10:56] 2 of those should be gone by tomorrow [23:13:17] 03(mod) Track magic word usage in page_props - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14685 normal->15enhancement (10sam) [23:14:41] <^demon> RoanKattouw: Is enabling the writeapi by default one of the two? [23:14:47] haha :) [23:14:59] nice and easy ;) [23:15:01] <^demon> That should take all of 10 seconds :-p [23:15:58] ^demon: No [23:16:08] brion: Could you look at bug 16006 and give your opinion? [23:17:37] (on the bug, preferably, not on the channel, as I'm gonna go to sleep now) [23:20:00] Reedy: he plays the martyr [23:20:13] lol [23:20:17] I just showed him two new minor query-continue bugs and he's all like "open bugzilla bugs so I can assign them to myself" [23:20:52] lol [23:20:58] ahhhhh weelllll [23:21:24] query-continue on list=categorymembers with cmdir=desc gives you an infinite query-continue loop [23:21:35] the query-continue parameter you give it is passed back to you [23:21:38] <^demon> It would be funny if we all banded together and fixed all 18 bugs before he woke up. [23:21:43] <^demon> But I know that's not happening :-p [23:21:48] hahaha [23:21:50] and then he had to revert them all because they sucked [23:21:57] i know one of my api bugs is a big new addition :P [23:22:11] which is that? [23:22:41] 14869 [23:22:47] the thing is, the api is big and shiny, but there aren't actually that many people stress-testing it, most people find the one thing they need it for and stick with it [23:22:47] not particularily difficult, just a lot to do [23:23:00] so this query-continue bug that I noticed was 5 months old at least [23:23:05] lol [23:23:33] i just report any if and when i find them [23:23:44] oh lord, that one [23:23:48] :D [23:23:53] notice it is the one _not_ assigned to roan [23:23:53] yeah [23:23:56] yup [23:24:06] VVV kindly offered to do it when he gets time ;) [23:24:06] he's all like "screw that, let the russians deal with it" [23:24:10] lol [23:24:23] AWB had a nasty way for scraping html special pages [23:24:27] it'll be &action=vodka [23:24:31] :D [23:24:41] [23:24:43] not worth trying to maintain, so just nuke that feature pending better implementation [23:24:54] hmm [23:24:59] hey, if vodka works ;) [23:25:05] 03(mod) Enable write api by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16006 (10brion) [23:25:16] so where are the Special: pages data stored? I mean, some can obviously just scrape recent changes, like Newpages... [23:25:22] <^demon> brion: lol [23:25:23] but some are expensive and rebuilt from lists periodically [23:25:34] *Reedy shrugs [23:25:35] (like Wantedpages, possibly the worst offender) [23:25:42] and some are probably in between [23:25:53] ^demon, just fix that bug :P [23:25:54] several have duplicate functions in the API already, I'd assume [23:25:55] <^demon> Splarka: Wanted* are all crap [23:25:59] 03aaron * r42181 10/trunk/phase3/includes/OutputPage.php: (bug 6179) Actually the log for people who can't edit [23:26:06] <^demon> Reedy: Meh [23:26:10] ^demon: they're sure handy on a medium-smaller wiki [23:26:26] RoanKattouw: That looks like a positive response [23:26:28] live Special:Shortpages rocks your socks for finding vandalism [23:26:34] Fearow: he slept [23:26:39] Roans gone [23:27:13] hmm [23:27:24] <^demon> I like bug 15227, the new Upload code needs some cleanup first. [23:27:43] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15227 [23:28:41] var req = sajax_init_object(); [23:28:41] req.open("POST", wgServer + wgScriptPath + '/api.php';, true); [23:28:41] req.send('action=givecookie&user=Brion&reason=write+Api+enable+woo&type=chocolatechip|oatmeal'); [23:29:35] 03(mod) Edit summaries with multiple section links (/*sections*/) only parse the final section link correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15481 (10AlexSm) [23:29:54] mmm, the summary parser suckies [23:30:13] why are there (at least) 3 separate forked wikicode parsers? summary, preload, and main... [23:30:31] <^demon> Splarka: It's hardly a parser....more of a regex to hackily find standard wikilinks. No more, no less :-p [23:31:17] ^demon: yes, I know the main parser is that [23:31:22] I'm talking about the summary parser [23:31:25] *ZING* [23:31:50] <^demon> I meant the summary parser too. [23:32:13] <^demon> Edit summaries aren't parsed. They're run through a simple regex to extract wikilinks and turn them into HTML before saving them indefinitely. [23:32:14] &setsenseofhumor=true&user=^demon [23:33:12] win [23:33:19] but note: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain [23:33:29] // TODO FIXME: AAAAAAAAAAA, this shouldn't be implementing // its own mini-parser! -ævar [23:33:42] *Splarka loves that message, even more than "PHP in the Ear" [23:33:42] <^demon> ^ I love that comment [23:33:55] hey, I saw her first! [23:34:00] 03(mod) action=upload should be added to the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15227 (10mikelifeguard) [23:34:19] heh, what is it, api begging day? [23:34:54] hmm, is upload_by_url supported in the proposed api upload? [23:36:42] <^demon> I believe the api upload is going to use the new upload code which (iirc) isn't being used yet by Special:Upload even ;-) [23:37:38] Have we ever considered making the API use WebDAV? ;) [23:37:40] damn bots getting all the new toys [23:39:59] <^demon> Hehe, we should add $wgApiOnly, to disable the normal interface and only use the API :-p [23:41:17] hardcore [23:41:31] "oh, i edit wp using postbacks manually in my browser" [23:41:41] how would that be useful? XD [23:41:53] <^demon> I never said it'd be useful. [23:42:36] It could be. :) If multiple installations service the same database, you could dedicate an entire server to API [23:43:07] <^demon> I hate my roommate. I think he's hogging bandwith.... [23:43:27] ^demon: Doesn't your router support QoS? [23:43:59] <^demon> Dunno :-p [23:44:44] ^demon: what's he doin with it? ^_^ [23:44:47] <^demon> I don't think so, actually. [23:44:51] <^demon> Probably playing a game. [23:45:38] <^demon> I mean, it's not like I need much bandwith. Just web browsing and irc right now, but he's making it awfully slow for me. [23:46:04] *amidaniel waves [23:46:21] eep, a ghost [23:46:27] 'lo amidaniel. :-) [23:46:30] *^demon throws a stick at it [23:46:34] 03aaron * r42182 10/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Move UDP stuff to new UDP class [23:46:42] *amidaniel fetches [23:46:45] amidaniel: you know how "Frankenstein" usually now refers to the big green monster itself? [23:46:52] when originally it was the name of the creator... [23:47:03] [mwbot PING reply]: 1hr 50mins 12secs [23:47:07] o.O [23:47:13] !mwbot [23:47:13] --mwbot-- Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot, you can find all my source code at http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn [23:47:19] He's alive ... [23:47:23] that was last night (and probably toolserver's fault) [23:47:35] 17:47 CTCP PING reply from mwbot: 0.459 seconds [23:47:38] Ah, i c :) [23:47:39] but your bot has been very naughty lately ^_^ [23:47:44] So I've heard [23:47:44] <^demon> He was dead for awhile. [23:47:47] <^demon> We had to deal without him. [23:47:52] I'm convinced the Toolserver is a '95 Dell laptop somewhere in Germany. :-/ [23:47:52] 20080904.txt 04-Sep-2008 18:23 88K [23:47:53] 20081004.txt 04-Oct-2008 23:48 21K [23:47:55] Yeah, ever since they moved to the new server [23:48:03] <^demon> Had to look up things ourselves, even. [23:48:07] <^demon> It's been rough :'( [23:48:11] ZOMG SAY IT AIN'T SO! [23:48:13] don't make us think! ow, it hurts [23:48:33] *amidaniel apologizes [23:48:34] <^demon> Well this is brilliant. I downloaded the firmware upgrade to the router....and the router says it's an invalid filename.... [23:48:51] <^demon> Thank you netgear in your infinite wisdom. [23:50:09] <^demon> Would I be a complete jerk for removing the port the roommate added to port forwarding? It might kill his game :-p [23:52:11] ^demon: tell him he's an addict and this is an intervention [23:52:30] what port is it? ^_^ [23:52:37] (can you sniff it?) [23:52:42] <^demon> 47624 [23:52:43] *amidaniel sniffs Splarka [23:52:50] *Splarka smells of roses and venison [23:52:59] <^demon> brion: I thought that only worked for porn addicts and junkies. [23:53:09] 03aaron * r42183 10/trunk/phase3/includes/RecentChange.php: Code/style cleanup [23:53:17] you saying WOW is not addictive? [23:53:34] <^demon> Age-of-Empire, 47624, 192.168.1.5 [23:53:37] <^demon> What a loser. [23:53:54] 03dale * r42184 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/ (OggHandler.php OggHandler_body.php): fixed issues of r41969 revert. Removed XSS, ( less variable overloading ), fall-back ffmpeg command for failed multi-track ogg thumbnail generation [23:54:45] my lady once had to in a previous job fire her roommate (as co-worker and supervisor) for not showing up to work anymore due to WoW addiction [23:55:01] i bet that made the rent check awkward [23:56:00] <^demon> I'm honestly beginning to think my broadband card might be faster than my current connection speeds. [23:56:10] 03dale * r42185 10/trunk/extensions/PlayerStatsGrabber/playerStats.js: allows for wgServerOverride [23:56:16] 03(mod) SVN proxy error when purging diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15943 (10JSchulz_4587) [23:56:36] my cable modem at home is way faster than the office dsl... maybe we should all just work from home ;) [23:56:41] 03(mod) Error generating thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16014 (10mikelifeguard) [23:56:46] *Pinky pokes brion [23:57:06] *brion is poked [23:57:15] <^demon> brion: Which is why I have a cingular card and vpn access ;-) [23:57:47] 03dale * r42186 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/OggHandler_body.php: wgServerOverride spelling error (sorry) [23:57:53] brion: pm [23:58:32] brion: so anyways, should CodeReview enotif use JQ? [23:58:59] *brion hmms [23:59:09] well how do we handle it for edits? [23:59:17] i presume it shouldn't be any worse? [23:59:54] edits use JQ