[00:00:09] but deal with much higher numbers [00:01:42] well jq is potentially very slow [00:02:01] it might be hours or more before something gets to it, if lots of other wikis are being jobbed [00:02:45] if we are just notifying a hand-full of users, doing it as a deferred task (after output) will be ok [00:03:20] who will we notify? author of revision and people who have commented? [00:03:26] yeah [00:08:49] 03brion * r42187 10/trunk/extensions/LogEntry/LogEntry.body.php: Remove some debugging code that dumps raw input in error case :) [00:22:41] 03(NEW) interpolateTitle() overwrites title query param if $wgArticlePath = '/$1' if api.php is used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16019 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (dmendler) [00:24:24] hoi ^demon [00:24:26] was the troll taken care of? [00:26:19] 03(mod) Provide more detailed information in the protected page notice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6179 (10N/A) [00:36:11] Hey everyone, I am trying to introduce a new channel. #mediawiki-help so that conversation in here can be more productive by having help in another channel. Please feel free to join and voice your opinion. [00:36:40] um, no... this is the support channel [00:37:13] oh, [00:37:26] well dua! What was I thinking :P [00:37:33] please drop that channel, its not yours to create... that is up to seanw or JamesF [00:37:55] I just did [00:38:11] <^demon> Charitwo: Hoi, indeed :) [00:39:10] cool, hopefully add some new bugzilla admins that are core committers, cause its apparently too easy of a target cause brion sie and tim aren't always available [00:40:09] <^demon> He was blocked, yes. [00:41:38] How does someone get blocked on bugzilla? Does that require dev access? [00:41:45] <_mary_kate_> YEs [00:41:47] Charitwo: there's no need to be so brusque - there might be legitimate arguments for creating another channel. [00:41:52] <_mary_kate_> U HAVE 32 TO BE VERY NAUGHTY [00:42:00] oh river [00:42:07] <_mary_kate_> HI CAROTWO [00:42:13] <_mary_kate_> oh charittwo [00:42:21] For example, people often feel like they need to move elsewhere when having an extended discussion with noobs so the technical discussion between coders isn't disrupted [00:42:33] I've never seen a problem [00:42:40] <_mary_kate_> what was chartione?? [00:42:56] he's dead [00:43:04] <_mary_kate_> u a r a he? [00:43:09] <_mary_kate_> i thought y9 7were as woman [00:43:09] Right, but I'm saying there's an argument to be made, and you don't need to be rude about it. [00:44:11] Wasn't rude, I'm just very to the point. Especially since he said it was supposed to be a support channel, which is what this is. [00:44:29] <_mary_kate_> es [00:44:32] <_mary_kate_> s0pport channe [00:44:40] <_mary_kate_> i lik support [00:44:50] <^demon> Mike_lifeguard: /msg's also work. Helped a user yesterday via that :) [00:44:55] Support is even more fun when drunk. :) [00:45:01] <_mary_kate_> YES [00:45:05] <_mary_kate_> drunk support++ [00:45:10] <_mary_kate_> ey look i speltthat right [00:45:21] o gawd [00:45:23] _mary_kate_: where is ashley [00:45:31] <_mary_kate_> Charitwo: still at the pu [00:45:34] <_mary_kate_> pub [00:45:42] <_mary_kate_> HI MNIKe [00:45:44] <_mary_kate_> NIKE [00:45:46] <_mary_kate_> MIKE [00:48:28] *_mary_kate_ np: john anderson - when it comes to you [00:48:46] 03demon * r42188 10/trunk/phase3/includes/UploadFromUrl.php: [00:48:46] * Disable this entirely unless curl is available so we don't blow up. Needs a-fixin [00:48:46] * Move the curl calls to http::request() so we can at least start to make this work for the file_get_contents() fallback [00:48:58] <_mary_kate_> sudddenly the channel is very quiet [00:49:33] need moar commitz? [00:49:41] <_mary_kate_> ya [00:49:44] <_mary_kate_> comit moar beer [00:59:56] <^demon> _mary_kate_: You should write Extension:Drunk :-p [01:00:36] When saving a page it automatically dyslexifies the text as if a drunk person wrote. [01:00:44] i dunno [01:01:23] <_mary_kate_> ^demon: what does it do? [01:06:13] <^demon> _mary_kate_: Dunno, you decide :-p [01:07:09] <^demon> Anyway, it's 9pm, time for dinner :) [01:24:03] 03(mod) categorymembers (list module) new parameter request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15995 (10thecentercannothold) [01:35:44] 03(mod) please provide a SUL-Newuser-Log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15271 (10mikelifeguard) [01:38:44] 03erik * r42189 10/trunk/tools/planet/en/config.ini: +Noroton [01:54:11] 03dale * r42190 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (5 files in 3 dirs): improved SMIL image support [02:04:59] 03erik * r42191 10/trunk/tools/planet/en/config.ini: -NonVocalScream per request [02:54:57] 03aaron * r42192 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ (ConfirmAccount.i18n.php RequestAccount_body.php): Add fieldset [03:01:49] 03(mod) Possibility to link to particular section of [[Special: Preferences]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16013 (10Eugene.Zelenko) [03:04:48] heh [03:09:38] Quick question... I'm trying to set up Image Authorisation and I'm @ http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Image_Authorisation#How_Does_img_auth.php_Work.3F [03:09:56] Step one... it says "create .htaccess" in /path/to/[image]/ [03:10:09] Does that not mean create .htaccess with "Deny From All" in /var/www/w/images/ [03:12:58] *menage_a_trois waits for an answer [03:14:24] you have a funny nickname [03:14:32] ;) [03:14:50] yes /var/www/w/images would be a typical location [03:15:49] I'd be led to believe so, however /w/images still indexes :\ [03:16:10] I was under the impression that .htaccess with "Deny from All" would prevent the indexing [03:16:13] maybe AllowOverrides is off [03:16:28] I didn't think so, but I'll double check [03:16:36] Worth a gander [03:16:49] better than "twincest" *cough* [03:19:41] *Charitwo raises an eyebrow [03:22:14] *DarkoNeko raises an ear [03:22:44] O_o [03:22:51] *menage_a_trois raises a beer [03:23:51] *Splarka raises a bug [03:23:52] 03(mod) Possibility to link to particular section of [[Special: Preferences]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16013 +comment (10herd) [03:24:39] I'd spiffed up the JS for that same problem (the bug there), it seemed to work fine, but there should be native compatable IDs in the fieldsets so it works without JS too [03:34:32] My apologies for being annoying and slightly off topic, but I can't seem to enable Allowoverride for apache... It goes in httpd.conf under , no? [03:35:54] Ignore me [03:35:56] I fixed it [03:35:57] ;) [03:41:48] 03aaron * r42193 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeRepository.php: Add newFromId() [03:42:52] Hrmph [03:43:00] the img_auth.php is br0ke [03:43:17] The image outline appears then disappears [03:44:41] we're using it on all our private wikis, I haven't had any reports of it being broken [03:45:22] Understood, I've probably messed up apache :\ [03:46:35] My wiki is in /var/www/w ... so httpd.conf should look something like.. http://pastie.org/295118 [03:46:59] er [03:47:06] --> [03:48:49] *menage_a_trois pokes TimStarling [03:49:57] you're probably better off not using .htaccess or AllowOverride if you have access to your httpd.conf [03:50:08] .htaccess is mostly for people who can't edit their config file [03:50:32] you understand what the point of this is, right? [03:50:46] it's so people can't read your private files, unauthenticated, using the webserver directly [03:51:21] Yes [03:51:33] I dont want people snooping in my image file [03:51:37] er [03:51:43] image directories [03:55:14] TimStarling, if this identify where I've screwed up... clicking on the image link on [[Image:Example.png]] yields /var/www/w/img_auth.php/3/35/Example.png [03:55:37] *identifies [03:56:43] sure it does [03:57:19] heh [03:57:35] that's probably meant to be a URL, not a local filesystem path [03:57:44] so without the /var/www [03:59:52] TimStarling, I suppose I pointing $wgUploadPath to the wrong thing? Previously it was ... = "/var/www/w/img_auth.php"; .. should it be "/w/img_auth.php"; ? [04:00:00] *pointed [04:00:36] yes [04:01:27] :\ [04:02:12] /wiki/W/img_auth.php/3/35/Example.png is what is points to now ... [04:02:24] *it points [04:06:35] 03aaron * r42194 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (CodeReview.i18n.php CodeReview.php CodeRevision.php): Send email notification to committer/other commentors on comment [04:10:16] *menage_a_trois pokes TimStarling [04:11:45] 03demon * r42195 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/DiffHighlighter.php: +docs [04:12:14] /wiki/W/ <- wrong relative link to image_auth in your config [04:13:39] DarkoNeko, it's $wgUploadPath = "/w/img_auth.php"; [04:14:14] if /w/ your wiki directory ? [04:14:47] the wiki is in /var/www/w [04:15:08] Images are in /var/www/w/images/ [04:15:18] LocalSettings.php in is /var/www/w/ [04:16:45] try $wgScriptPath/img_auth.php [04:18:26] I mean, $wgUploadPath = $wgScriptPath."/img_auth.php"; [04:19:24] :D [04:19:26] That did it [04:19:28] Thanks [04:25:56] I had a similar problem :) [04:26:16] but, won't you hav eproblems with the image directory sitll inside the web directory ? [04:27:16] like, anybody still read it directly if they have the file exact adress, or can guess it from the hash [04:39:37] 03aaron * r42196 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/OldReviewedPages_body.php: More elegant comparison [04:44:01] hm [04:44:08] I'll go edit the help page a bit [04:45:04] man, I hate Gwen Harwood. [04:45:35] ...who ? :o [04:45:54] Australian Poet, who I am studying. [04:53:53] Poetry should be a personal choice, not forced onto students by teachers, you find the poet that makes your soul rejoice, not ones with fans stacked in bleachers. Some forms of enjoyment are better by crowd, "more popular" equals "more fun", sporting events, laughing aloud, but poetry isn't a one. [04:54:02] (unless poetry is some sort of spectator sport in Australia) [04:54:45] no, this is for the english course. [04:55:04] ( Splarka ) Poetry should be a personal choice <- yay, like phylosophy [04:55:07] yeah* [04:55:28] poetry is to philosophy, as school-taught poetry is to religion? [04:55:40] well;, school taught philosophy [04:55:52] school taght poetry [04:55:54] same crap [04:55:59] I HATE rousseau [04:56:27] why is that damn louzy pervert a "philosophical reference" for some people [06:40:29] I have a Category page (eg, .../Category:Foo) that lists 200 pages at a time. Can I get it to list 250? [06:41:49] how do i grant administrator rights to a user? [06:44:21] alpaco: I think you need to add the user to the group(s) with the capabilities you have in mind, but I'm unclear on the details. [06:45:28] Rich_Morin__: $wgCategoryPagingLimit [06:46:10] Splarka: That sounds like a global; is there a category-specific WTDI? [06:46:23] nope [06:46:37] OK; thanks! [06:47:51] alpaco: are you logged in as a bureaucrat? Special:Userrights should do what you need [06:48:17] Splarka: thanks [06:48:44] if not... [06:48:49] !rightssql [06:48:49] --mwbot-- INSERT INTO user_groups (ug_user, ug_group) VALUES ('1', 'bureaucrat'); Where '1' is your user ID, and 'bureaucrat' is the right you wish to apply. [07:51:38] <_wooz> lo [07:57:05] tomaszf_: go to bed! [07:57:18] ok :) [07:57:30] night [07:57:45] o_O [08:40:49] Hi, is there a module for Mediawiki that attached tex-files are automatically compiled and the resulting PDF is shown together with the tex-file. As soon as one changes the tex-file the PDF is recompiled? [09:11:29] 03(NEW) Race condition in User:: addToDatabase on automatical user creation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16020 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (nicdumz) [09:12:50] 03(mod) Language default settings - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15518 (10mxn) [09:26:57] hello folks [09:27:34] can someone help me with a pretty short question, i'm using 1.13.2 MW and read all articles about how to edit the sidebar but none worked [09:28:07] all articles refering to older version oder very new versions like 1.9 so could someone please point me in the riht direction on what to edit in 1.13.2 ? [09:28:15] any help is appreciated [09:28:47] i've already spent 2 hours searching the various code files like DefaultSettings LocaleSetting SiteConfiguration [09:28:49] :/ [09:29:35] Xenion: MediaWiki:Sidebar [09:29:38] type that into the search box. [09:30:32] Werdna this feature is only valid for 1.5+ [09:30:34] am i wrong ? [09:30:41] the FAQ states that [09:30:50] so i figured it "would" not work [09:31:18] it works [09:31:20] argh ! [09:31:23] ... [09:31:25] 1.5 is lower than 1.13 [09:31:26] thanks werdan7 [09:31:28] 5 < 13 [09:31:38] our versions are not decimals. [09:31:40] outsch ... [09:31:49] i've got the version wrong [09:31:54] ... [09:32:01] that clear some things up ^^ [09:32:02] ... [09:32:23] but this 2 hours wher'nt bad now i know how your skin system works in detail :) [09:34:39] Werdna, can you help me on 2 more things ? [09:34:47] sure, go ahead. [09:35:09] what the difference between "recent news" and "recent changes" for "me" it sound both like the same ? [09:35:22] sorry the first is named "current events" [09:35:53] current events is a page that you write yourself [09:36:04] recent changes is an automatic list of stuff that's happened on the wiki lately [09:36:21] i see [09:36:28] thanks so i just kick current events :D [09:36:35] :) [09:37:12] Werdna, and about the other thing .. it just solved itself [09:37:16] thanks so far [09:37:33] maybe i'll comeback again in some hours .. now it's about time for some content :-) [09:51:47] 03(NEW) cmcontinue breaks with sortkeys containing pipe characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16017 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (roan.kattouw) [09:56:42] 03(mod) Need a username parameter in query-continue for API usercontribs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16018 (10roan.kattouw) [09:59:35] VasilievVV: Ping [10:03:19] ialex: Could you do me a favor? [10:04:07] RoanKattouw: maybe [10:04:11] *Splarka wonders if a related bug for "Category page &from and &until should use |#### (pageid) for disambiguating same-sortkeys" [10:04:34] ^+ should be opened [10:04:36] Could you commit the patches attached to bugs 16017 and 16018 for me? I don't have commit access at my current location [10:04:55] Splarka: I think it should. Don't assign it to me though ;) [10:04:57] RoanKattouw: what do you want? [10:05:18] ialex: See above; commit patches from two bugs [10:07:59] Splarka: Don't you have commit access? [10:08:24] haha, funny [10:08:34] *RoanKattouw was being serious [10:08:40] no, I just have bad ideas and questions that make Tim hit his head on the table [10:08:48] lol [10:09:11] "What is eunuchs?" [10:09:34] 03ialex * r42197 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQueryCategoryMembers.php): [10:09:34] Per Catrope's request, commiting patch on bug 16017: [10:09:34] * (bug 16017) list=categorymembers sets invalid continue parameters for sortkeys containing pipes [10:10:10] hmm [10:10:11] 03(FIXED) cmcontinue breaks with sortkeys containing pipe characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16017 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [10:11:26] roan: can cmstartsortkey and cmendsortkey both contain (I think I asked yesterday but forget now) substrings and non-matching superstrings like the UI can? [10:11:35] Yes [10:11:49] can they also accept page IDs after a pipe? [10:11:54] The database just does a >= (or <= ) comparison [10:11:55] No [10:11:56] (as per cmcontinue) [10:12:11] hmm, so how do you disambiugate with say, 500 of the same sortkey (stupid users, but possible) [10:12:11] No, cmcontinue does since a few second [10:12:22] You use cmcontinue [10:12:26] k [10:12:36] cmcontinue=sortkey|which|may|contain|pipes|123 [10:12:37] so how to combine the functionality of both into the UI, simply [10:12:48] &from=MMmmmmmmm|id [10:13:05] &from=foo|bar|baz|baf|id where id might just be a random number.. and foo|bar might be a >= [10:13:09] Ain't that simple; you'd have to rewrite the relevant *Pager class quite a bit [10:13:14] yah [10:13:31] maybe a second set of parameters? &fromid= &untilid= ? [10:13:46] Yeah that's probably cleaner [10:13:54] Still, IndexPager only supports paging by one field, not by two [10:14:01] damn [10:14:10] So you'd have to write a new pager class, like DoubleIndexPager, which pages on two fields [10:14:19] e.g. ns/title, or in this case sortkey/pageid [10:14:34] 03ialex * r42198 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQueryUserContributions.php): [10:14:34] Per Catrope's request, commiting patch on bug 16018: [10:14:34] * (bug 16018) Added uccontinue parameter to list=usercontribs so paging works properly when multiple users are queried or a userprefix is used [10:14:41] Thanks ialex [10:14:42] be easier just to _add_ the pageid into the sortkey when they get categorized *grumble* [10:14:56] 03(FIXED) Need a username parameter in query-continue for API usercontribs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16018 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [10:15:06] the chances of ambiguation would be exponentially reduced [10:15:15] I mean literally, sortkey = sortkey|pageid [10:15:27] if page is > 70 chars, then the sortkey is complex enough not to care [10:15:51] you'd have to try pretty hard to break it in such a case [10:16:09] Well there's no need to duplicate information; there's a cl_from field with the page ID, and an index on cl_sortkey first, then cl_from, so you've got everything you need [10:16:10] it'd just make slightly uglier &until and &from [10:16:34] heh, right, but drastic rewrite of pager classes, or divorcing category paging from reality... [10:17:01] bah, not sure what to do for a bug then [10:17:12] "things in categories are fucked up" sums it up [10:17:41] hi JeLuF [10:17:44] Well IMO it's Pager's fault; categories aren't the only case in which paging by multiple fields is useful [10:18:01] mmm, any open bugs for that that could be blockers for this? [10:18:19] Not that I'm aware of [10:18:31] Maybe there are similar disambiguation cases [10:20:10] Categories have it rough with the duplication of sortkeys. I still like the idea of sortkey's getting appended with the page title mandatorily ^_^ *ducks* [10:23:30] *Splarka gets headache, submits bug before he forgets [10:25:52] page ID :P [10:26:54] 03(NEW) Category pagination (&from and &until) should utilize pageid for disambiguating identical-sortkeys - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16021 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (herd) [10:27:13] well, at least with page title it doesn't needlessly duplicate info [10:27:27] page ID is shorter [10:27:33] (and since categories are alphabetical by sortkey, it is a teeny tiny bit more intuitive) [10:27:41] heh, compromise is possible [10:27:49] the page title cropped to the lenght of the pageid ^_^ [10:27:55] makes sense in a sadistic way [10:27:59] lol [10:28:11] if you have 99 pages, you don't need more than 2 letters to disambiguate most likely [10:28:22] if you have 10,000,000, then 8 characters should be good [10:28:29] Well because the sortkey is usually a substring of the page title, it feels like a waste of space [10:28:42] mmm, space vs cpu vs bandwidth [10:29:12] Werdna: more opinion than "page ID :P" on this in general? [10:30:03] Splarka: What exactly do you mean by "it involves exact sortkey matching"? The API doesn't require exact sortkey matching in cmcontinue [10:31:08] well, it pretends to [10:31:09] "info": "Invalid continue param. You should pass the original value returned by the previous query", [10:31:20] What was the continue parameter? [10:31:28] It should end with a | , remember [10:31:28] &cmcontinue=Flibble [10:31:34] Use cmcontinue=Foo| [10:31:37] you mean, if it contains a pipe, it is good to go? [10:31:38] that's odd [10:31:46] Well there are two fields [10:31:52] hmm [10:32:04] right, but it _always_ contains a pipe [10:32:07] Sortkey, which happens to be non-empty, and pageID, which happens to be empty [10:32:08] Yes [10:32:19] So if the sortkey is "Foo|" your cmcontinue would be Foo|| [10:32:26] And Foo||123 for the next set [10:32:28] well, anyways, the instructions say "You should pass the original value returned by the previous query"... [10:32:35] Yes [10:32:38] so it seems to me, like it would almost never be filled in by a human [10:32:53] therefor, my claim is accurate in practice if not in technicality? heh [10:33:04] Yes, kind of [10:33:11] *Splarka wishes you'd stop changing the rules on him though [10:33:13] The API happens to always use exact matching, but doesn't require it [10:33:17] *Splarka wishes you'd fill in your own bugs too! arr [10:33:22] lol [10:33:31] *Splarka assigns that bug to you just to annoy you [10:33:35] (not really) [10:33:39] lol [10:34:47] Anyway, continue parameters aren't designed to be filled out by humans, although it's not wrong to do so either [10:35:08] mmm, well, it probably isn't best to blindly trust them either [10:35:23] But if the continue parameter is malformed, that means it has to have been filled out by a human, because query-continue doesn't produce malformed output [10:35:23] like with cmdir=desc prior to your recent fix X_X [10:35:27] Hence the error message [10:35:42] Well we escape continue parameters before passing them to the database, of coures [10:35:55] "query-continue doesn't produce malformed output" <-- heh [10:35:58] ideally you mean [10:36:08] Yeah [10:36:14] Except in the sortkey-with-pipes case [10:36:28] In which I kind of cheated by just changing the definition of malformed :P [10:36:33] haha [10:37:08] well, you coulda changed it to double URI encoding [10:37:23] Foo%257CBar%257CBaz|123 [10:37:23] ... [10:37:44] (the API accepts %7C as | for parameter delimiting, right?) [10:37:46] I also could've used ]] as an escape sequence for | :P equally ugly [10:37:47] Yes [10:38:18] so, cheated but kept the user-end clean... do any query-continue use two parameters? [10:38:33] Not at the same time, no. [10:38:46] Although list=usercontribs now uses either ucstart or uccontinue depending on the context [10:39:00] *Splarka nods [10:39:02] But that shouldn't be an issue [10:39:10] Nor should multiple continue parameters at once [10:39:23] Clients are supposed to just blindly do whatever query-continue tells them to [10:40:29] "query-continue": { [10:40:29] "categorymembers": { [10:40:29] "sendlifesavings": "BankOfZurich|Account#18271823" [10:40:51] json jokes for the win [10:41:16] Technically that should be cmsendlifesavings ;) :P [10:41:28] hmm [10:42:10] does uccontinue work with prefix mode? [10:42:12] *Splarka looks at the patch [10:42:25] (or just with multiple ucuser= ?) [10:42:56] prefix mode and multiple ucuser [10:43:04] $this->multiUserMode [11:18:31] when you run dumpbackup.php it creates a file I'm assuming, where is that file stored? [11:19:13] 03(NEW) Proposal creating new namespace for the Khmer Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16022 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (kiensvay) [11:19:34] hello mediawiki [11:19:42] how do you create an article with a " / " but so that its not counted as a subpage of something? [11:26:57] I would like to list references on a single page and use citation to link to the reference page. Is that possible? e.g. The sun is large (Newton, 1700). and in the reference page: Newton Issac, 1700 book. Now I would like to click on (Newton, 1700) and go to the reference page. [11:31:23] sphenxes: Cite extension? [11:39:03] It is no longer Friday... :-P [11:53:38] how do i find my database table prefix? [11:54:43] t0lk: $wgDBPrefix? [11:55:13] it's set to "" [11:55:28] t0lk: then you are not using any prefix [11:55:38] oh [11:55:41] ok [11:56:03] i'm trying to use mw_tools that requires a prefix: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mw_tools [11:56:11] is there anything I can tell it for that field [11:56:25] "$wgDBprefix in the LocalSettings.php must equal to the backup` table prefix. Otherwise, the recover maybe failed." [11:58:24] t0lk: Just ensure that the installation you are recovering to has the same prefix as it was backuped, that is, no prefix, or $wgDBPrefix = "" [11:59:45] ok [12:00:04] mw_tools doesn't want to run without a defined prefix :/ [12:00:42] In that case, you should report this bug to the author of this tool... [12:01:09] ok [12:01:10] due, thanks [12:01:13] thanks :) [12:01:17] ^_^ Especially since the recommended settings for MW is to have no db prefix [12:01:31] T_T Don't spit on the sane people [12:22:03] 03(NEW) Sun Wiki Publisher - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16023 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (smihael) [12:36:48] Dantman: the people without crappy hosts :) [12:37:52] ^_^ Can't handle $20 a month? [12:38:03] why $20/month? [12:38:25] VPS ;) [12:38:42] get a new VPS host. [12:38:46] Mine's $15/mo [12:39:06] Meh... [12:40:42] I don't have one :( [12:40:46] But really... People going for those crappy $4/mo hosts, bleh... You could get a good VPS for less than a coffee a day... [12:40:46] But I'm looking fo rone [12:42:33] ^_^ Maybe we should come up with a simpleton's guide to setting up a VPS with Ubunto and MediaWiki [12:42:46] Ubuntu* [12:42:54] ^_^ heh, misspelled twice... [12:43:21] My laptop doesn't seam to like letting me spell Ubuntu even though it's running it... heh [12:48:59] /ctcp Dantman VERSION [12:49:05] Whoops, stupid space [12:51:51] Mmmm... multiple workspaces... [12:52:22] Is there a markup variable that will return the browsers user name? I don't see it if there is. [12:52:34] No, of course not [12:52:39] no, that can't be done for reasons of performance. [12:52:44] Firstly that would break caching horribly [12:52:52] ok thanks [12:52:56] In brief, the page would have to be regenerated for every user, which would be a massive waste of resources. [12:53:00] Secondly, the art of detecting browsers is unreliable [12:53:00] :) [12:53:11] Dantman: he's talking about the username of who's viewing the page. [12:53:21] detecting browsers? [12:53:30] oh, heh... Didn't see the "user" [12:53:38] he thinks you mean {{USERBROWSER}} gives 'firefox', 'safari', 'chrome', whatever. [12:53:42] but he's wrong :) [12:53:48] yes [12:53:49] heh, thought [12:53:55] okay thank you [13:39:52] 03(mod) Possibility to link to particular section of [[Special: Preferences]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16013 (10Eugene.Zelenko) [13:50:29] Hi, what is the local flag on Special:Interwikis? [13:51:46] 03(NEW) special wanted templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16024 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (WIKImaniac) [13:54:28] *MC8 pokes [13:56:01] can I use templates from Wikipedia on my own Wiki without adding the articles on my own Wiki? [13:56:13] MC8: whether going to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/interwiki_prefix:Some_Page will redirect or not. [13:56:35] if not, is there an easy way to import templates into my own Wiki? [13:56:39] Oh. Is that it? [13:56:51] yeah. [13:56:58] importing templates, use transwiki [13:58:23] how do I do that? link? [13:59:22] search mediawiki.org for transwiki [14:01:50] it's funny that the search doesn't find a "Transwiki" page :P [14:02:02] !transwiki [14:02:02] --mwbot-- For information on configuring interwiki page imports, please refer to [14:02:33] Special:Import [14:02:57] thanks [14:08:35] how can I export a template with all cascading sub-templates it uses? [14:09:56] is the "Include templates" checkbox enough to cascade? [14:33:01] PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined method SimpleCaptcha::showImage() in /var/www/w/extensions/ConfirmEdit/ConfirmEdit_body.php on line 57 [14:44:09] 03(NEW) Call to undefined method SimpleCaptcha::showImage() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16025 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ConfirmEdit; (siebrand) [14:44:46] 03(mod) Call to undefined method SimpleCaptcha::showImage() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16025 (10siebrand) [14:51:42] 04(REOPENED) MySQL error "Deadlock found when trying to get lock" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15533 +comment (10paul.copperman) [14:53:57] 03(mod) Call to undefined method SimpleCaptcha::showImage() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16025 +comment (10nicdumz) [15:03:50] is there any way to get an article in the same format as special:export from the mediawiki api? [15:04:18] the closest thing I've found for exporting is action=query&prop=revisions, but the format seems completely different [15:10:00] 03(mod) syntax to transclude a page without the containing page inheriting categories , interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835 (10rowan.collins) [15:11:23] Warning: Unknown property 'word-wrap'. Declaration dropped. Source File: http://de.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/diff.css?179 Line: 62 <- Can you please fix the css-file? Thanks! [15:12:37] or in general, the 4 errors, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fskins-1.5%2Fcommon%2Fdiff.css%3F179 [15:14:44] gregor: That is CSS3, not CSS2.1... it is the validator's fault that doesn't understand CSS3 yet [15:16:50] juliano, but -moz-pre-wrap is not css2.1 and not css3, it is mozilla-specific? [15:17:20] is the and it's purpose documented somewhere? [15:17:43] gregor: yes, it is. And any CSS-compliant user-agent should drop the declaration, that is correct behavior [15:20:33] it does get it, but you have to select css3 manually [15:20:41] ime anyway [15:22:27] juliano, okay, thanks for the information. [15:23:51] hi [15:25:45] i want to use a mediawiki installation to keep track of articles for a written book with a big team of people working on it. now the problem: i want to have a "status page" that looks up articles and presents me some information in a table. similar to the http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix. how do i do that? [15:26:20] Its only a table [15:26:36] its updated automagically [15:26:37] !table | anuron [15:26:37] --mwbot-- anuron: For help on creating tables in wikitext, see and [15:27:07] people change a template in their extension page and the table changes [15:27:41] i think a bot updates that page [15:27:52] or is supposed to, at least [15:28:11] ok. so a bot would be the solution? [15:28:26] might be, yeah [15:29:47] it'sa bot that does it, indeed [15:30:00] except, it hasnt run in a while ;) [15:32:44] ok thanks [15:34:15] 03siebrand * r42199 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesMyv.php: [15:34:15] * set fallback to Russian [15:34:15] * add localised namespace, skin names, special page names, and magic words [15:59:25] hi, is there a way to set emailconfirmed for all existing users? I'm using mediawiki 1.11.0 [16:02:24] BjornW: update your users table. However, that may be a highly controversial step... [16:02:51] siebrand: why would this be controversial? [16:02:53] is there a way to force the subscription of user to a page from inside php after an edit or if the username is said on the page? [16:03:50] BjornW: well, not all users may want to start receiving e-mail, or have their e-mail address set to confirmed by a site operator. [16:03:55] i have a person that is responsible for a part of a project, his name is said in a template in the projects article. and now i want that he is automatically subscribed to that page [16:05:50] siebrand: ok, we know of this. Its a beta stage project and current users are aware that the 'rules' might change. I tried setting the user_email_authenticated to the value of an already confirmed user. This however did not work. Which fields need to be changed as well? [16:07:37] BjornW: dunno. Would have to check the source to see what 'e-mailconfirmed()' requires. [16:08:06] siebrand: ok, I can do that ;) [16:10:56] BjornW: isEmailConfirmed in User.php [16:11:34] siebrand: thanks looking at it now. See http://www.phpxref.com/xref/mediawiki/includes/User.php.html#isemailconfirmed [16:11:41] 03(NEW) MediaWiki:Revision-info should accept wikimarkup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16026 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (happy_melon) [16:18:37] hello, how do I change the standard thumbnailsize in the software? [16:18:43] (from 180px) [16:41:36] moralist: cannot find a setting for it. It looks like MediaWiki may be taking the 3rd setting from $wgImageLimits and $wgThumbLimits as defaults. [16:44:31] moralist: got it. Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['thumbsize'] = int; in LocalSettings.php. 2 is default (180). [16:44:38] 03(mod) MySQL error "Deadlock found when trying to get lock" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15533 (10JSchulz_4587) [16:47:52] !admin Someone needs a ban.. [16:47:52] --mwbot-- To recreate the admin user, run "php maintenance/createAndPromote.php" on the command line. [16:48:06] xD [16:50:11] microchip08, stop failing please [16:54:20] does anyone here know much about the API? [16:56:26] john_152: depends on what you are looking for. I think I know where the manual is... [16:57:08] siebrand: That hasn't helped me much. Basically, I'm trying to find a way to export from a wiki that requires login to import to another wiki [16:57:25] special:export doesn't do login, afaik [16:57:42] dunno. [16:57:46] siebrand: How do I do that in a local part of wikipedia (sv)? [16:57:48] and api.php?action=query&prop=revisions gives out a completely different format to special:export [16:58:11] ah, you asked that before. [16:58:39] john_152: no API core developers present at the moment... Maybe you should create a feature request... [16:58:56] hmm, maybe [17:06:27] Hi all! [17:07:29] How do I remove the header in the article? [17:08:33] umm?.. [17:10:43] 03dale * r42200 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (4 files): restored v39191 - improved input validation (cortado iframe), disabled delay load by default, removed mv_data proxy (all remote requests should be via json), removed deprecated library flashembed.js [17:14:10] How do I remove the header in the article, please? [17:16:05] Can anyone hear me?.. My connection is very glitchy, sorry. [17:16:45] can't hear you, we can see your typing, however ;p [17:16:57] oh. [17:17:16] hm, so, is there a way to remove the header in an article? [17:17:30] which header? [17:18:14] you know, the title of the article. Like, on Wikipedia's main page there is no 'Main page' at the top. [17:21:40] there's a directive for that, i can't recall what. sec [17:22:03] exizt, you use CSS [17:23:22] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Variables [17:23:43] ORLY? ok [17:41:51] 03(mod) incomplete rename, causes error on SUL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15899 (10JSchulz_4587) [17:46:44] 03aaron * r42202 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuthUser.php: Just use the main transaction, otherwise bug 15899 issues can occur if there is a local db issue after rename on the same php instance [17:47:24] Danny_B: wouldn't it be better to just integrate Special:Wanted*s into one special page? [17:48:27] siebrand2: as well as mostlinked and uncategorized, i know. but i am still too dummy to afford doing that. however i support it by all ten fingers [17:49:55] hi [17:53:48] hi [17:54:59] FYI: 42201 is badly broken. Danny is fixing. Best not update beyond 42200 at the moment.. [17:55:41] my first bigger commit :-/ still stuff to learn,sory for inconvenience [17:56:08] aniyone here knows how its possible to do the following: I want to have ONE wiki with some basic Pages (Templates, Help-Pages...) which everyone needs in some other wikis. In other wikis these templates should be available. Every time somebody changes the page in the basic wiki it also should change in the single wikis. Whats the easiest way to do that? [17:57:11] Danwe, it is posible [17:57:16] !transwiki [17:57:16] --mwbot-- For information on configuring interwiki page imports, please refer to [17:57:24] no, not that [17:57:48] !r 42201 [17:57:48] --mwbot-- http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=42201 [17:59:15] 03danny_b * r42203 10/trunk/phase3/includes/AutoLoader.php: * back the UDP class accidentaly removed in r42201 [17:59:20] so, interwiki is the keyword? [18:00:32] there is a kind of transclusion which can be done from foreign wikis [18:02:37] hm, I found this: http://de.wikibooks.org/wiki/MediaWiki/_InterWiki-Links [18:02:47] works this also with templates? [18:02:57] {{wikiname:Templatename|...}} [18:03:08] that's the idea [18:03:12] but you need to enable it [18:03:32] and i don't find now the configuration option [18:04:48] mmh. The problem is, nearly all templates who will be used are templates from the base-wiki. is it also possible that when the template dont exist in the own wiki, a template from the base wiki will automaticaly be used? [18:05:05] without wikiname prefix^^ [18:07:16] hello, I'm having problems with the date of my mediawki installatino (1.13.2), running date on my server gives 21:04 EEST (which is correct), but mediawiki reports the following in my preferences tab: Server time 18:05, Local time 21:05 [18:08:00] How can I change the time globally for all users? (UTC + 3) [18:09:21] 03danny_b * r42204 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): * fixing i18n of r42201 [18:15:42] hey Platonides: I think this is the one: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEnableScaryTranscluding [18:17:18] yes, that's it [18:19:47] hm, and whats about the other question? is it possible to define a other wiki as default so if the template doesnt exist in the own wiki, the template from the other wiki is will be choosen? [18:25:13] 03ialex * r42205 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialWantedTemplates.php: svn:eol-style native [18:56:56] hello [18:59:30] What means "lokal" and "trans" for interwiki?? [19:00:12] local means that typing it into the address bar redirects properly, and trans means that you can transclude templates when $wgEnableScaryTranscluding is on [19:00:31] thanks [19:00:44] but local doesnt mean i dont need the prefix, right? [19:00:52] No. [19:01:00] is there anyway to realize that, too? [19:01:14] "local" is like the interlanguage links on Wikipedia [19:05:13] 03ialex * r42206 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/ (SpecialWantedTemplates.php SpecialWantedtemplates.php): Moving SpecialWantedTemplates.php to SpecialWantedtemplates.php to fix error on case sensitive file systems, will commit AutoLoader fix after this commit [19:13:01] *Nidonocu requests some urgent help. He woke up this morning and his wiki had exploded. :( [19:13:20] 03(NEW) I hit "submit," No Captcha displays, I' m thrown to error page, yet save appear in article, but garbage "proxy" message also appears in article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16027 minor; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (rsm1) [19:13:35] Nidonocu: what do you mean by "exploded" ? [19:14:03] *Nidonocu gets this when he tries to visit it: Fatal error: session_start() [function.session-start]: Failed to initialize storage module: files (path: ) in /home/husky/public_html/CFwiki/w/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 2453 [19:15:23] 03(mod) I hit "submit, " No Captcha displays, I'm thrown to error page, yet save appear in article, but garbage "proxy" message also appears in article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16027 (10rsm1) [19:16:46] *Nidonocu has. no idea even where to begin with something like that [19:16:47] Nidonocu: seems to be a PHP error [19:18:02] ialex: what could of caused it? [19:18:08] hm, whi is it not possible to include a template from another wiki. I tried it with wikipedia but got an message that including the template failed. I tried to include this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:%21 [19:19:03] Nidonocu: check the session.save_path setting of php.ini [19:19:30] ialex: Um.. how do I do that? I only have access to the media wiki install via FTP [19:23:57] Nidonocu: hmm, what do you have for $wgMainCacheType in LocalSettings.php? [19:25:07] ialex: CACHE_NONE [19:25:20] damn [19:27:16] The database of my mediawiki is about 300MB big, but I countais only ~30 pages. There are lots of spam entries in it, but now the bots are stoped but the histories are still in the database. Is there a way to delete some stuff out of the database to make it smaller. The text table uses 98% of the space. I am using Mediawiki 1.6. [19:27:26] I somewhat remember there is a command I can do to bring up a php about page with some information on it, would that help inding out what the setting is? [19:27:52] Nidonocu: phpinfo(); [19:30:45] session save path is... no value [19:31:32] 03(NEW) Proposal: a new JavaScript variable for redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16028 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Redirects; (sylvain.brunerie) [19:34:52] Nidonocu: try to put session_save_path( '/tmp' ); in LocalSettings.php [19:35:31] just that line as is? Any perticular location? [19:35:39] no [19:38:40] *Nidonocu sticks it at the top of the file and uploads.. [19:39:49] ialex: Woo, that worked o_o Can you tell me why and if I should be aware of anything odd? [19:43:08] hm, why the templates a page in my wiki use from other wikis are not shown in the "templates used by this page" area?? [19:47:45] 03raymond * r42207 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messageTypes.inc: Add 'wantedtemplates-summary' to the ignore list [19:55:30] is there a way to get the current time for a wikipedia site, through the API maybe? [19:55:43] or to have the timestamps in UTC? without changing from a site to another? [19:56:53] VasilievVV: any idea? :) [19:58:10] DarkoNeko: help? :) [20:00:23] Filnik: you can only get TZ offset using API (AFAIK) [20:00:56] VasilievVV: how? I can use that :) [20:01:54] Filnik: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo - timezone and offset fields [20:01:54] VasilievVV: do you mean the offset set by the user or the offset from UTC of the wiki? [20:02:04] Offset of the wiki [20:02:09] And offset of the user [20:02:10] VasilievVV: perfect :) [20:02:17] VasilievVV: yes, the second I've already found [20:07:27] 03(mod) Successful login message should not be displayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15911 +comment (10rowan.collins) [20:08:43] hai ? [20:08:55] no idea [20:16:40] 03ialex * r42208 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialWantedtemplates.php: Fix SQL query so that it works properly [20:19:03] 03(mod) Error generating thumbnail - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16014 +comment (10claus.colloseus) [20:26:19] 03(mod) Thumbnails not generated for SVGs with non-ASCII characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16014 +shell; summary; +comment (10Platonides) [20:26:54] 03(mod) Rename the "Image" namespace to "File" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44 (10Platonides) [20:32:43] Is there a running edit count stored for the user somewhere? ie the one shown on special:preferences? or is it calculated on the fly [20:33:20] ialex: i actually wanted the page to display only templates not all included pages. if you want to leave it to display all included pages, please fix the description in release notes, thx [20:33:38] Mike_lifeguard: user_editcount field of user table [20:33:48] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ does not work here [20:33:49] thanks [20:33:59] can you reach the page?? [20:34:17] Danwe: works for me [20:34:22] yes [20:34:31] strange [20:34:37] wfm [20:34:43] try it since 15 minutes [20:34:59] I hate my internet connection [20:35:12] Danny_B: it only shows templates [20:37:53] ok it works. but not in opera, only firefox. seems like opera is the problem o.O [20:38:01] perhaps because https? [20:38:53] 03(NEW) CheckUser should return a clearer message when the user has edits, but none newer than $wgCUDMaxAge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16029 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CheckUser; (mikelifeguard) [20:41:09] Hello everyone. I was thinking of starting a people wiki, and have something set up at www.popolinx.com. Would love to get some feedback. [20:41:40] Popolinx: bad name for people from a german speaking background :) [20:44:24] when mediawiki installs, is there a default sysop a/c already created or do you have to make one? [20:45:48] *amidaniel lolz at Duesentrieb [20:45:49] john_152: the installer asks you for a user name for the initial sysop. [20:46:01] hey, amidaniel! long time no see! [20:46:07] *amidaniel hides [20:46:18] Hullo :) [20:46:20] *RoanKattouw starts throwing things at mwbot and amidaniel [20:46:26] :( [20:46:33] amidaniel: check the toolserver mailing list, we are discussion good ways to make stuff "run forever". would be nice to mwbot :) [20:46:44] @Duesentrieb Ah, so it did. Sorry, it's been a long night :) [20:47:07] Yeah, I saw that ... I'll set him up with that phoenix script shortly [20:47:41] phoenix or start-stop-daemon, whatever suits you. just make it check every few minutes :) [20:47:48] we really feel the lack when it's gone [20:48:45] Nice to know that everyone misses my bot, but no one cares about me :P [20:49:09] we always come looking for you when the bot fails [20:49:24] *Duesentrieb hides pitchfork [20:49:30] heh [20:49:58] amidaniel: You should ask yourself whether you *want* people to care about you. Developers caring about me kept me up till 1:30 last night [20:50:12] hehe [20:51:55] lol [20:54:20] 03(NEW) Pages listed in Special:NewPages despite being deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16030 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (mikelifeguard) [20:54:31] btw, Duesentrieb, is your phoenix published somewhere? [20:54:59] Platonides: hm... wait a sec, will put it online [20:55:05] 14(DUP) Pages listed in Special:NewPages despite being deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16030 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [20:55:10] 03(mod) Deleted pages persist in Special:Newpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15978 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [20:55:18] Platonides: it's not so great :) [20:55:44] I get an idea [20:56:29] don't worry [20:58:01] 03(NEW) "Templates used on this page" doesn' t Show transcluded Templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16031 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (Danweetz) [20:58:20] Platonides: http://toolserver.org/~daniel/rawview/rawview.php/duesenstuff/bin/phoenix [21:00:07] thanks :) [21:01:25] although what I should really do is to create an irc bot to check if the real irc bot is running [21:01:37] Hehe [21:02:07] sounds familiar, amidaniel? ;) [21:02:57] Familiar? Did I do that once? [21:03:02] *amidaniel doesn't think so ... hopes not [21:03:20] I mean as a need :P [21:03:27] Ah, yes :) [21:05:47] Duesentrieb, incidentally I found that you used to run a DuesenBot on mediawiki.org but it suddenly stopped some months ago [21:05:51] I think you have some message on your talk asking to restart it [21:06:37] Platonides: it's running... it just times out every time, because we have so many extensions now :) [21:06:47] Platonides: it needs a rewrite. it's on my todo list. somewhere. [21:07:27] er... it's last edit was in July or so [21:07:55] Platonides: yes :) [21:07:57] not that i could look it up right now :P [21:08:16] i get one mail per day reminding me to fix it... [21:08:21] xD [21:08:23] i got used to ignoring it... [21:08:34] oh, 'times out every time' = never reaches to edit?? [21:08:44] Ignore them long enough and they go away :) [21:08:47] xDD [21:08:57] Platonides: yes. it tries to post a huge wikimatrix and fails. [21:09:03] err, extension matrix [21:09:05] well, perhaps it just needs to be unignored at iptables ;) [21:10:13] wikipedia went down [21:10:14] even with a big page, it shouldn't timeout [21:10:43] it may have developed more problems over time. bit rot is inevitable. [21:10:50] basically, it fell apart and needs a rewrite. [21:10:55] soonisch. maybe. [21:11:42] Duesentrieb: If you're rewriting it anyway, use the API ;) [21:12:05] :D [21:12:13] where can i go to hire someone with knowledge of Mediawiki and the pywikipedia bot? [21:12:37] Do you really want to use pywikipediabot? It's obsolete for most purposes [21:12:54] Upload is the only thing pywikipediabot does that the API can't do, AFAIK [21:12:55] i just need it for simple functions [21:13:04] You'd probably be better off using the API [21:13:05] can you point me to the api? [21:13:12] There are bot frameworks for the API out there [21:13:16] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API [21:13:26] Look under "Client code" for pointers to bot frameworks [21:13:30] The list may not be complete, however [21:13:57] 03(mod) Implement Redlinks special page, to replace Wantedpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15608 +comment (10siebrand) [21:14:01] pywikipediabot is listed there [21:14:14] As an API framework :O ? [21:14:23] If only that page would *load* for me [21:14:25] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Client_Code? [21:14:31] sorry: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Client_Code [21:14:50] <_mary_kate_> RoanKattouw: i don't think this makes sense [21:14:56] <_mary_kate_> RoanKattouw: pywikipediabot should simply learn how to use the api [21:15:06] Probably, yes. [21:15:09] john_152: RoanKattouw known more about the API. [21:15:22] I was under the impression it didnt [21:15:31] Although it may have; I have absolutely no clue [21:15:50] If someone added pywikipediabot to the client code list without additional comments, it probably learned how to use the API [21:16:03] Although I suspect it might not have caught up with API editing yet [21:16:16] siebrand, john_152: What's up? [21:16:48] RoanKattouw: [18:53] does anyone here know much about the API? [21:16:49] [18:55] john_152: depends on what you are looking for. I think I know where the manual is... [21:16:49] [18:56] siebrand: That hasn't helped me much. Basically, I'm trying to find a way to export from a wiki that requires login to import to another wiki [21:17:15] siebrand, john_152: Import/export is not implemented in the API. Although it probably should be [21:17:35] siebrand: You've committed to pywikipediabot; does it use the API, and if yes, for what? [21:18:46] RoanKattouw: a framework rewrite is in progress. I think the current framework does not use the API everywhere/too much. Still depends heavily on screen scraping, and sometimes breaks horribly because of that. [21:18:58] Hmm [21:19:17] RoanKattouw: I don't think pywikipediabot should rely on the API, since the editing aspect is disabled by default in new installs and it is also incredibly easy to disable the API altogether. [21:19:22] RoanKattouw: I'm not an expert, but RussBlau (IIRC), Bryan, and NicDumZ work on i. [21:19:36] Skizzerz: it'll use fallback. [21:19:41] Skizzerz: Bug 16006 [21:19:54] Skizzerz: but it should use the API, because screen scraping just sucks. [21:19:58] Bryan does pywikipediabot stuff? I didn't know that [21:20:21] RoanKattouw: he started out working there, and reluctantly started committing to MediaWiki :) [21:20:30] Skizzerz: api edit will be on per default starting with 1.14, i think [21:20:38] Yes [21:20:52] RoanKattouw: ah right, thanks [21:21:06] Brion seems to have approved it (I'll interpret "Whee" as a yes), so I'll leave it to Bryan to commit [21:21:26] (it = enabling API edit by default in 1.14, which is bug 16006) [21:21:57] 03(mod) Enable write api by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16006 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [21:22:37] I just need someone to help me set up a bot that goes through my whole wiki and replaces "this" with "that" but "that" has special characters in it so I'm having trouble getting it to work [21:22:45] pywikipediabot* [21:23:03] if there is another framework that can do this that would be great [21:23:24] t0lk, save the text in utf8 [21:23:56] yeah, my problem is that I don't have the know-how to create and run a file with the right information in it [22:21:40] hi, can anyone give me some help with the SocialProfile extension? I'm getting the error Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end in /home/banix/public_html/wiki/includes/AjaxFunctions.php on line 214 when I try to accept a friend on ViewRelationshipRequests page [22:24:15] if you get a syntax error in AjaxFunctions.php, no ajax based action should work... [22:24:27] it basically indicates that the file is broken. [22:24:35] I see... [22:24:51] what I 've added to it was : [22:24:51] global $IP; [22:24:51] require_once("$IP/extensions/SocialProfile/UserBoard/UserBoard_AjaxFunctions.php"); [22:24:52] require_once("$IP/extensions/SocialProfile/UserRelationship/Relationship_AjaxFunctions.php") [22:25:03] which was what the installation instructions told me to add [22:25:12] you added that to what? [22:25:20] to the end of AjaxFunctions.php [22:25:33] o_: [22:25:45] uh... that's a bit odd... but if they say so... [22:25:56] anyway, you forgot a ; after the last line [22:26:00] which breaks the syntax [22:26:14] oh! thanks! looks like that could solve it [22:27:11] yup, it did. Now I get warning but at least no errors :) thank you [22:27:22] np [22:37:26] 03(mod) Template parameters unavailable to XML-style parser tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2257 (10bugs) [22:55:11] 03(mod) Implement Redlinks special page, to replace Wantedpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15608 +comment (10danny.b) [22:59:14] 03(mod) Shared special page for all Wanted* pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15608 summary; +comment (10danny.b) [23:23:08] for editing pages, docs talk about the parameter "section": [23:23:10] section: Section to edit. Use 0 for the top section, 'new' for a new section [23:23:23] does top section mean whole article or first section? [23:24:57] john_152: the stuff before the first heading [23:25:12] ah ok [23:25:20] the whole article would be something else - text I think [23:25:20] just leave section out for the whole article yeah? [23:26:03] I think the whole page is text, but check that [23:58:56] Special:Import doesn't overwrite existing articles? [23:59:16] 03aaron * r42211 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LogEventsList.php: Add $conds param