[00:00:51] Only 54 revs behind! [00:02:00] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/42225 is probably mistagged (should be ok or deferred, I think) [00:04:30] siebrand: resolved because it had a fix applied in a later revision [00:04:57] ah, yes, I thought that might be it. I added a comment pointing to that rev, MattJohnston [00:05:21] siebrand: Yeah, I noticed. "ok" is supposed to mean something that was perfectly fine from the start, I believe [00:05:54] Simetrical: don't get cocky, there's still some old ones [00:06:03] Rats. [00:06:30] Simetrical: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/status/new and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/status/fixme :) [00:06:49] "new" is BS, it includes every revision since the dawn of time. [00:06:55] brion-away: Has CodeReview been as helpful in the process as you hoped? [00:07:24] Simetrical: yes, I know. Pre r41337 is less relevant. [00:08:29] Argh, patch -p0 is taking forever [00:09:18] MattJohnston: oh yeah [00:09:38] i actually have records of stuff, and it's hugely useful for sharing comments and some third-party review [00:10:44] *Soxred does not want to implement all the changes himself [00:12:08] It's a useful extension - i'm planning on using it for some of my projects (although i'm not using mediawiki for them ill install it just for this :)) [00:12:10] 03brion * r42237 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/ (OggHandler.php OggHandler_body.php): [00:12:10] Reverting r42184 "fixed issues of r41969 revert. Removed XSS, ( less variable overloading ), fall-back ffmpeg command for failed multi-track ogg thumbnail generation" [00:12:10] There's some weird altering of a global variable here; could cause data corruption if called multiple times. [00:16:49] 03brion * r42238 10/trunk/phase3/includes/UploadFromUrl.php: [00:16:49] Back out r42188 for now "* Disable this entirely unless curl is available so we don't blow up. Needs a-fixin [00:16:49] * Move the curl calls to http::request() so we can at least start to make this work for the file_get_contents() fallback" [00:16:49] Sticking CURL-specific options in the Http::get call seems unwise as that ties [00:16:52] you to a specific backend, assuming Http::get won't change. Further, it seems [00:16:54] that if it does use the backend, it just plain won't work -- the returned data [00:16:56] will be thrown away instead of saved to the target file. [00:20:49] 03brion * r42239 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (4 files): [00:20:49] Back out r42193/r42194 for now "Add newFromId()" and "Send email notification to committer/other commentors on comment" [00:20:49] Seems to be throwing in weird, unnecessary re-loading of all repository information from the database every time we create a revision object. WTF? [00:23:41] question.. how can i FIND and REPLACE a word in mediawiki ? [00:28:33] 03soxred93 * r42240 10/trunk/extensions/AntiSpoof/ (AntiSpoof.i18n.php AntiSpoof.php SpoofUser.php): (bug 12232) AntiSpoof returns more than 1 result, and outputs it in a list. Patch by Brent G/OverlordQ [00:28:56] 03(FIXED) AntiSpoof should return more than one result - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12232 +comment (10soxred93) [00:29:34] 03aaron * r42241 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeRevision.php: Rename mRepo to something less stupid [00:31:26] 03aaron * r42242 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeRepository.php: Partial revert of r42239 - add newFromId() again [00:31:35] is anyone here? [00:32:14] chalcedony, my IRC client indicates that there are 162 people here. [00:32:36] chalcedony, what do you mean "find and replace a word in MediaWiki"? In a single article, all articles, or what? [00:32:43] Simetrical: ty [00:32:50] Simetrical: the current article [00:33:10] chalcedony, you'd have to either devise a user script, or copy/paste into your favorite text editor. [00:33:14] someone put a lot of a funny spelling in [00:33:43] wtf [00:33:44] array( 'parseinline', 'escapenoentities' ) ? [00:33:58] that seems like an odd combo [00:34:05] brion-away: is that in response to my question? [00:34:33] mediawiki seems to have some odd lacks [00:34:34] chalcedony: nope! i'm not paying much attention to this channel atm, i'm doing code review [00:34:53] brion-away: oh sorry ty for your attention [00:37:27] it's just so basic to composition and editing to find next and find and replace [00:38:41] I don't know of any web app that allows that, offhand. [00:38:56] chalcedony: in a single article while editing, yes, either your browser already supports it or you'll need to find a JS gadget that adds a UI [00:39:07] TimStarling, you here? [00:39:46] brion-away, do any browsers support find-and-replace? [00:42:16] 03aaron * r42243 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (CodeReview.i18n.php CodeReview.php CodeRevision.php): Revert rest of r42239 - redo with delayed repo query and some minor fixes [00:43:03] 03(mod) Searching for IP Addresses in page content unsuccessful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15027 (10cameronem) [00:43:09] Simetrical: no idea [00:43:23] Probably they will as the Age of Web Apps progresses. [00:45:59] since wikis ARE used as editors, shouldn't some editorial features should be in there? [00:46:11] i.e. as more cars smash into the great trainwreck that is Web 2.0(tm)? :) [00:48:10] *Krimpet thinks AJAX "web apps" are a plague that must be extinguished [00:48:46] chalcedony, there are *some*. Just not as many as in real editing apps. [00:49:55] Simetrical: like ? [00:50:08] chalcedony, like . . . the ability to make text bold and italic! [00:50:52] Simetrical: i'm impressed :) [00:51:02] Krimpet: at least they don't tie us to a single operating system vendor like desktop apps too lazy to make anything but a windows executable :) [00:51:05] *chalcedony likes vim.. but it won't paste to mediawiki [00:51:29] one page at a time .. blech [00:51:51] brion-away, although they are kind of difficult to open-source. In fact you can even effectively evade the GPL with them (yay Google using heavily modified Apache and never releasing the source code). [00:52:15] brion-away, that's true. But I think cross-platform desktop apps are the best way to go. [00:52:20] apache doesn't require you to release your changes ever [00:52:21] *Simetrical paraphrases rms on Web apps: "Satanic corporations are using them to take over your souls!" [00:52:33] Something like how Java apps work. [00:52:36] Oh, you're right, that's not GPL, is it? [00:52:37] and isn't gplv3 there for the tivo and google kind of stuff? [00:52:56] No, you need AGPL to stop that kind of thing. [00:53:10] GPLv3 only stops them from locking OSS out of their hardware. [00:53:10] [[LLVM]] has some interesting possibilities for cross-platform apps, I think. [00:53:24] all i know is my site is open source and it works for me ;) [00:58:10] 03brion * r42244 10/trunk/extensions/CategoryTree/CategoryTreeFunctions.php: [00:58:10] Cleanup r42210 "* (bug 16015) Change parsing of MediaWiki:Categorytree-member-num to allow  " [00:58:10] 'parsemag' was mysteriously chaned to 'parseinline', which is incorrect given that the result is HTML-escaped with 'escapenoenities' -- they don't play nicely together. :) [00:58:10] Changed it back to 'parsemag'. 'parseinline' *without* 'escapenoentities' might also seem like a good choice, but didn't seem to be what was intended. [00:58:13] Also broke the very very very long line for legibility. [00:58:28] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Categorytree-member-num needs   - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16015 (10brion) [01:14:59] hmmmmm [01:15:07] do we actually want RSS feeds for special:contributions? [01:15:12] feels a little stalkery to me [01:16:26] *Werdna shrugs. [01:16:49] Somebody sufficiently motivated will write a tool that does it via the API anyway. [01:16:59] sure, it's just slightly harder [01:17:00] bah [01:17:01] but you're right, I can't see much of a use case. [01:17:14] I mean, what non-stalkery things could someone do with an RSS feed of contributions? [01:18:40] say hi to their friends [01:18:46] watch for action by a known vandal [01:18:57] heh, that's still stalking :) [01:19:00] just justified stalking. [01:20:06] :D [01:20:23] it's not stalking if i have photoshopped pix proving we're friends [01:20:28] *brion-away looks all shifty-eyed [01:20:30] o_O [01:20:35] *Werdna photoshops some pics with brion-away [01:20:42] I'll grab your staff photo, since I know you love it. [01:27:24] hey AaronSchulz! [01:27:25] 03werdna * r42245 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: Add revision ID to revision-info-current, revision-info messages, for diffs and stuff. [01:27:44] yo [01:27:47] 03(NEW) Notify new comment on Recetchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16042 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (danny.b) [01:30:47] 03(mod) Notify new comment on Recetchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16042 (10JSchulz_4587) [01:31:02] Werdna: am I the default assignee or something? [01:31:11] AaronSchulz: of what? [01:31:15] CR [01:31:20] I dunno [01:31:24] I are not bugzilla admin. [01:34:23] Wernda: http://www.electoral-vote.com/ :) [01:34:39] 03werdna * r42246 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalBlocking/GlobalBlocking.php: (bug 16040) With CentralAuth not set up all that well, GlobalBlocking gives a fatal error on GlobalBlockList. [01:34:53] 03(FIXED) Fatal error when viewing Special: GlobalBlocklist with a block in it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16040 +comment (10Andrew) [01:35:07] AaronSchulz: somebody's getting slightly pwned. [01:35:34] well ohio still shaky [01:35:55] AaronSchulz: so, if any 6 of the 100 even moderately uncertain states go dem, then it's a democratic victory. [01:35:56] there were floods of obama people and posters a week ago [01:36:21] s/states/electoral votes/ [01:41:51] AaronSchulz: comment mail is labeled as text/plain but appears to contain html [01:41:56] that's kind of icky [01:43:13] 03brion * r42247 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (CodeRepository.php CodeReview.php CodeRevision.php): No need for lazy-loading when we always have a repo object to start with :) [01:43:30] following comment [01:43:39] <_mary_kate_> why are states on the east coast so much smaller than states on the west coast? [01:44:10] Probably because they're newer. [01:44:27] <_mary_kate_> the west coast is newer, you mean? [01:44:57] also many western states are vast wastelands ;) [01:45:19] _mary_kate_: Sorry, I meant older. [01:46:08] *brion-away wonders if there's a handy list of states by population density [01:46:21] i love wikipedia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population_density [01:46:30] hehe [01:47:14] <_mary_kate_> hmm.. it seems that republicanism is inversely proportional to population density [01:47:22] yeah, of course. [01:47:32] rural states are always republican. [01:47:39] well, generally anyway. [01:48:05] 03aaron * r42248 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeReview.i18n.php: remove html [01:48:22] brion-away: better? [01:48:26] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USA_states_population_density_map.PNG <- generally, coastal and river-rich areas are the most densely populated [01:48:30] small towns, guns, religious nuts :) [01:49:39] *AaronSchulz hears The Phantom Menace in the other room [01:49:41] heh, Ohio has people? [01:49:52] *Werdna went on exchange there for two months once. [01:50:01] sorry Aaron :) [01:50:05] *AaronSchulz hugs downtown columbus [01:50:43] some of the oldest states are very small, but most of the others are fairly comparable in size except the extreme outliers like texas :) [01:51:18] that's because lots of people arrived in the same place, and wanted their own state, and couldn't be bothered to spread out. [01:51:22] *brion-away found a great site of strange maps the other day [01:51:28] <_mary_kate_> Werdna: conclusion: americans are lazy [01:51:29] http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2006/09/10/5-the-38-state-union/ <- check this shit out :D [01:52:40] brion-away: that's cool! [01:52:50] I found a site of bunches of cartograms [01:52:53] just trying to find it. [01:53:14] I live in Kennebec! [01:53:22] oooh this is cool: http://commoncensus.org/maps.php [01:53:39] this is one of theirs. [01:53:40] http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2006/09/10/5-the-38-state-union/ [01:54:00] erm, ignore that link. [01:54:13] http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2007/03/31/96-a-cartogram-of-the-worlds-population/ [01:54:16] that one. [01:55:11] i like that one :) [01:55:55] nigeria and indonesia are two that i think we never tend to think of as very populous in the us, but they're as big as mexico or japan which we know and love so well [01:57:28] we know about indonesia in Australia. [01:57:31] http://commoncensus.org/maps.php <- this one would be really interesting to see adjusted for population [01:57:39] Werdna: :D [01:57:59] it was a big problem for us after WW2 [01:58:13] you know, Australia having like 5m people, and indonesia having a few hundred million. [01:58:39] Australia was genuinely worried about being invaded, which is why we have such a high percentage of migrants.. The leaders of the day said we had to "populate or perish". [02:00:27] a 1950s Time article on the matter.. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,857312,00.html [02:00:47] brion-away: you can use this :) http://people.cas.sc.edu/hardistf/cartograms/ [02:00:52] it's a generator for cartograms. [02:01:10] coool [02:01:54] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-439315/How-world-really-shapes-up.html -- and a bunch of other stuff. [02:02:31] *AaronSchulz waits for next scap [02:02:35] Toy imports, War and Death, GDP per capita (1500 and 2002) [02:02:53] I think there was one during the last Ice Age [02:03:56] "Speaking at a press briefing this morning, the day before the official start to World Youth Day celebrations, the cardinal also deplored high youth suicide rates, especially among young males, and said drugs offered no escape." [02:04:17] haha, you forgot that 50% of youth suicides are homosexuals who aren't accepted because of you. [02:04:35] <_mary_kate_> 50%? {{fact}} [02:05:06] Werdna [02:05:48] *Werdna looks. [02:07:10] religion is the opiate of the masses -- say no to drugs! [02:07:55] _mary_kate_: sorry, it's one third. http://www.healthyplace.com/Communities/Gender/gayisok/stopping_suicide.html http://www.planetpapers.com/Assets/1506.php [02:08:05] *Werdna quotes brion-away [02:08:11] Ed Poor will be after you soon! [02:08:13] *Werdna ducks. [02:09:14] what's the worst he can do to me, delete the main page? [02:09:52] Good luck with that! [02:09:57] nah, he'll delete AfD :) [02:10:23] brion-away: or, if he's REALLY vindictive, he'll use a meta-template. [02:10:46] Werdna, then there will be a lockdown [02:11:00] Noo!!!! Teh server kittehs! [02:11:20] AaronSchulz: (comment notification) looks better. :) should we use the general email notification preferences, or have some other way to disable notifications other than disabling all user-to-user email? [02:11:27] hehe [02:12:35] brion-away: Also, I finished that group rights changeable on-wiki stuff. [02:12:43] the branch is pretty close to ready to merge. [02:13:07] woo [02:13:44] As a bonus, group rights are also changeable cross-wiki [02:13:55] and the Userrights properly reflects the groups on the target wiki. [02:14:16] And there's a drop-down for cross-wiki user groups, group rightsd, instead of that hacky user@dbname [02:14:24] brion-away: would be nice if adding prefs to existing sections was possible [02:15:07] you can't always get what you want ;) [02:15:26] you can if you do it yourself :) [02:15:56] *AaronSchulz points Werdna to The Secret [02:16:33] :) [02:16:38] 03(CLOSED) Fatal error when viewing Special: GlobalBlocklist with a block in it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16040 +comment (10techman224) [02:16:56] is there anything that needs looking at, btw? I've got a few hours spare, and am refusing to study. [02:19:11] 03(mod) CentralAuth Error when trying to merge a account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16011 (10techman224) [02:21:54] ,/me goes actually away to buy milk [02:22:01] chocolate! [02:22:11] brion-away: mmm [02:22:19] *AaronSchulz needs more chocolate mink [02:22:21] *milk [02:22:32] *Soxred does not like chocolate milk [02:22:51] AaronSchulz, the chocolate mink is an endangered species [02:23:05] *AaronSchulz does not like Soxred :) [02:23:05] *Soxred phones the fish and game club [02:24:51] http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/10/weekend_caption_contest_the_most_electric_pee_youll_ever_take-2.html [02:24:54] *Werdna giggles. [02:25:29] TimStarling: wow, the xkcd geohashing location is in Hornsby Heights. [02:28:46] finally!!! http://blag.xkcd.com/2008/10/08/youtube-audio-preview/ [02:31:11] mmm, chocolate mink [02:36:39] Werdna: somehow I doubt there would be much interest on a monday [02:37:38] TimStarling: I'm going to head over anyway. [02:38:09] just for some photos and such [02:39:13] when? [02:40:19] brion-away: too bad I'm a vegetarian :p [02:40:42] AaronSchulz: it's ok if the mink says you can eat it [02:40:44] I'm not sure. Was just arranging it with another xkcd-friendly friend. [02:41:03] mink suicide? [02:41:04] TimStarling: it's just at Brett Avenue, off Galston Road. [02:41:49] *Werdna checks the meetup page. [02:41:52] somebody's already been. [02:42:20] I'll probably be there around five. [02:43:56] yeah, I found the map [02:46:52] TimStarling: are there any smallish things that need looking at, incidentally? I'm not starting studying Legals + Maths until tomorrow. [02:47:12] how did English go? [02:47:21] well. It was quite straightforward. [02:47:38] The questions had some tweaks, but ultimately were about putting down your prepared response. [02:49:37] I'm pretty pleased, it's over and my UAI should be (reasonably) unscathed. [02:52:25] *brion-away wanders off to dinner [02:53:03] good [02:53:59] From here, I'm not all that stressed. Legal Studies at the end of the week, Maths next week (2 exams), and Physics/Chemistry the week after, and I'm done! [02:54:54] a friend of mine lives just around the corner from that geohashing spot, I wonder if he's around [02:55:02] we could make it a geeky little crowd [02:56:31] Does anyone know how to setup $wgConf for CentralAuth [02:56:36] hi techman224 [02:56:48] hi [02:56:51] Start with $wgConf = new SiteConfiguration [02:56:52] ; [02:56:58] then, set a list of wikis. [02:57:10] $wgConf->wikis = array( 'wiki1_dbname', 'wiki2_dbname', ... ) [02:57:11] ; [02:57:25] then, you need to tell $wgConf what the URLs for those wikis are. [02:58:18] $wgConf->settings = array( 'wgServer' => array( 'wiki1_dbname' => 'http://en.wikipedia.org', ... ), 'wgArticlePath' => array( 'wiki1_dbname' => '/wiki/$1' ) ) ); [02:58:53] TimStarling: it'd be a bit of a weird meetup, but might be a bit of fun :) [03:00:38] Now what [03:01:18] techman224: does it work? [03:01:47] he's probably working though, is later than 5 ok? [03:02:00] do I have to do that for db2 also [03:02:08] techman224: yes. [03:02:13] TimStarling: yeah, no big deal. [03:03:04] Girlfriend (an xkcd reader) is coming over at 4, presumably for a few hours. She'll come along, I suppose. [03:25:39] Werdna : I get "Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_VARIABLE in /var/www/techwiki/metawiki/LocalSettings.php on line 170" [03:25:52] make sure you have semicolons at the end of your lines. [03:25:59] if you do, pastebin what you put in [03:26:55] going to bed anyways [03:27:01] okay [03:27:23] deal with it another time [03:58:30] Hi everyone [03:58:48] I was in here yesterday, trying to move my wiki [03:59:12] The problem I have now is: [03:59:13] Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. [03:59:15] Try waiting a few minutes and reloading. [03:59:17] (Can't contact the database server: Access denied for user 'hangfromthefloor'@'%' to database 'wjwiki' (localhost)) [04:04:26] It works if I use root [04:04:40] But the mysql user I created yesterday doesn't work :( [04:12:30] Werdna: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naga_Jolokia_pepper :) [04:16:40] *Splarka wants some o' dat ^ [04:17:45] O RLY? [04:18:20] Aaron: http://chilifiestagourmet.com/Pure-Habanero-Red-Savina-Hot-Sauce/M/B000M0VJHQ.htm is the hottest I've tried ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_savina ), 400,000 SHU [04:19:04] to get any hotter than Jolokia you gotta buy some of the esoteric processed sauces, like Blair's [04:21:02] !access | Pathoschild [04:21:02] --mwbot-- Pathoschild: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [04:24:53] 03werdna * r42249 10/trunk/phase3/includes/User.php: Revert r38686, per comments on CodeReview (in brief, the backslashes and such are very annoying. This is not LaTeX!). Took quite a bit of conflict resolution. [04:25:32] 03werdna * r42250 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/Doxyfile: Oops, committed in includes. This has the rest of the changes. [04:26:29] TimStarling: we defer MetavidWiki stuff, right? [04:26:55] yes [04:27:02] but if you're really really bored... [04:27:11] :) [04:27:12] heh [04:27:17] I don't know anything about MetavidWiki. [04:27:21] it's terrible code [04:27:26] you could spend days just cleaning it up [04:27:31] :( [04:27:41] I've done my charity code cleanup for the month. I did LiquidThreads a while back. [04:28:08] it looks somewhat "okier" now [04:28:45] Splarka: do you try for taste or to say you tried it? ^_^ [04:30:51] TimStarling: why does it have an ExtensionFunctions.php copy? [04:31:08] heh, at first to say I'd tried it, but then for the taste (after the burn removed all my mucus membranes, yay capsaicin), ... ~4oz has lasted me a year [04:31:35] Watchlists and page histories read " (Talk | contribs | block) ". [04:31:42] I can't figure out to make "Talk" lowercase. [04:31:57] Figure out how. * [04:32:50] AaronSchulz: you tell me [04:33:13] TimStarling: what *is* MetaVidWiki? [04:33:49] a project for extending MediaWiki with interfaces that enable community engagement with audio video metdata [04:34:03] [sic] [04:34:04] that sounds like it came out of a sales document :P [04:34:11] it came from the README [04:34:16] Werdna: I knew that was canned [04:34:20] so, same thing. [04:34:28] tim doesn't talk like that normally :) [04:34:40] suure. [04:34:46] We all know Tim's secretly a salesperson. [04:34:49] Even the README is screwed up? [04:35:30] well, I don't know if a spelling error is enough to count as screwed up [04:35:48] so why did we hire somebody to work on it? [04:35:54] ... [04:35:56] but it also contains a patch for Article.php [04:36:02] which probably qualifies it [04:36:27] Werdna: probably a directed grant or something [04:38:24] http://blog.wikimedia.org/2008/07/23/kaltura-sponsors-michael-dale-open-source-video-developer/ [04:39:40] aargh, Brion is also a salesperson. [04:39:42] The MetaVidWiki software (which runs the archive) is a free software extension to MediaWiki that enables community engagement with audio/visual media assets and associative temporal metadata [04:40:07] *Werdna giggles at comment $2 [04:40:09] #2* [04:40:58] I hope my mom doesn't find out about that blog [04:41:53] heh [04:42:02] lucky Wernda [04:42:11] you get a staff listing on wmf.org [04:42:15] *Werdna calls AaronSchulz [04:42:16] eh? [04:43:06] *Werdna [04:43:46] hey, it's mdale! [04:44:00] speak of the devil [04:46:55] Removing the logging notice? [04:47:22] hey, it's monday :) [04:47:30] bug day! [04:47:54] topic is still in the past =) [04:48:21] What are you doing... [04:48:39] reviewing code. [04:48:51] rarr, day still old [04:50:01] cool. Now I wish I had cookies home. [04:50:32] I almost bought some Oreos [04:50:39] Should this be reverted? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/41710 [04:50:44] got candy corn instead :DD [04:51:01] my sister bought me 3 kg of snakes. [04:51:02] <3 [04:51:22] Werdna: 'Its benefits far outweigh its downsides' [04:51:55] yeah, according to the person who applied the patch. [04:52:45] TimStarling: did you get hold of your friend around the corner? [04:53:02] didn't respond to SMS [04:53:13] 03(NEW) Update WMF error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16043 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (public) [04:54:40] TimStarling: you know how Facebook does dev job applications? [04:54:49] no [04:56:45] http://www.facebook.com/facebook?ref=pf#/jobs_puzzles/ [04:57:03] with online puzzles! [04:57:25] might actually be a good idea [04:57:51] Submissions should be sent via email to the address: {0xFACEB00C>>2 in decimal}@facebook.com [04:57:55] hahaha [04:58:06] irony indeed [05:00:00] that looks like fun. I should do those puzzles just for fun when the HSC is over. [05:00:16] I was thinking the same thing [05:00:23] but realized I'm too busy [05:00:44] *AaronSchulz sits around ircing and browsing frank tv... [05:00:57] well, overall too busy that is :) [05:01:41] Hmm, thoughts on that bug that just came up, 16043? [05:02:34] At the very least, I'm wondering if #wikipedia is the appropriate place to be sending people when _all_ projects go down; wouldn't #wikimedia-tech or #wikimedia be better? [05:02:54] Don't send them anywhere! :P [05:03:00] We'd have to have an op around to set +m and so on. [05:03:23] Well, thoughts on not sending them anywhere, then? :p [05:03:25] <_mary_kate_> #wikimedia-tech is completely the wrong place [05:03:33] <_mary_kate_> that's where the people who can fix the problem are trying to talk [05:03:37] True. [05:04:18] It was fine years ago when there were fewer people on IRC and on the site. [05:04:26] Now it's just annoying and unneeded. [05:04:40] Any objections to removing the channel from the message? [05:05:26] Just be sure to remove it from all translations? [05:05:37] And then you have to get a sysadmin to push it to the servers. [05:08:39] >_> [05:15:15] 03dale * r42251 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (9 files in 5 dirs): updates to rss media output [05:17:00] 03(mod) Thumbnails not generated for SVGs with non-ASCII characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16014 15enhancement->major (10tstarling) [05:17:26] 03krimpet * r42252 10/trunk/debs/squid/debian/errors/error.html: Per bug 16043, remove referral to #wikipedia et al. from Squid error; channel ops report this has become unhelpful. [05:21:38] 03(mod) Update WMF error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16043 +comment (10krimpet) [05:44:21] !e ref [05:44:21] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ref [05:51:22] 03krimpet * r42253 10/trunk/debs/squid/debian/errors/error.html: [05:51:22] Moved technical details inside each individual language block instead. Because [05:51:22] Gecko-based browsers still allow display:none elements to be highlighted, having [05:51:22] a single element at the end means that users trying to copy-paste the error into [05:51:22] a report will often unwittingly end up with numerous other languages' errors on [05:51:25] their clipboard as well. [05:51:29] Splarka, see above. :) [05:51:54] ta [05:52:01] *Splarka gives Krimpet a cookie, being bug monday [05:52:14] mmm, chocolate macadamia. :) [05:52:18] now in the unlikely event it is ever deployed/synched/pushed... [05:52:36] Tim: how hard was it to do that again? ^_^ [05:53:23] I'd imagine they have to build new debs, and push them out to all the squids :p [05:53:50] It's like making calamari, or something. [06:00:09] well, we could just change the files [06:00:27] leave the packaging until later [06:03:41] 03krimpet * r42254 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialDeletedContributions.php: Use the ContributionsToolLinks hook on Deleted Contributions. Patch by FunPika. [06:04:13] 03(FIXED) Link to [[Special:Checkuser]] should appear on [[Special: Deleted contributions]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15948 +comment (10krimpet) [06:05:26] 03tstarling * r42255 10/trunk/debs/librsvg2/debian/ (changelog patches/cmdline-bugfixes.patch): [06:05:26] * (WM bug 16014) Fixed UTF-8 command-line input [06:05:26] * Fixed missing newline in rsvg-convert error display [06:12:39] 03(NEW) Vague error message in Special:Emailuser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16044 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Email; (tstarling) [06:14:22] 03krimpet * r42256 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialDeletedContributions.php: For consistency, make the DeletedContributions pager use (Latest | Earliest) instead of (first | last) [06:25:09] Krimpet: I have one for you, actually... [06:25:15] hmm? [06:25:30] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/MZMcBride [06:25:35] The pagination links break there. [06:26:17] Haven't filed a bug about it (yet). Certainly can if you don't want to do it / don't want to do it today. [06:26:41] yeah, I can't atm, a bug would be nice. :) [06:26:46] *MZMcBride nods. [06:29:05] 03(NEW) Pagination links break on Special:Log/Username - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16045 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (public) [06:29:26] 03(mod) Update WMF error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16043 +shell (10public) [06:34:19] What does one do with a bug like https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1191 ? [06:34:40] <_mary_kate_> close it [06:35:05] Fair enough. [06:36:14] Resolving as INVALID seems most appropriate, though that's probably kinda rude... [06:36:58] 06(LATER) Preference section index links point to non-existent anchor names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9515 +comment (10nicdumz) [06:39:50] 14(INVALID) Database hot issues tracking, December 2004 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1191 +comment (10public) [06:45:10] 2168 Special:segapllA, or AllpagesReversed [06:45:11] Heh. [06:46:23] 03krimpet * r42257 10/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php: Convert literal tabs to when passing them through Tidy, to prevent them from being clobbered. [06:46:46] 03(FIXED) Tidy replaces tabs with spaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15959 +comment (10krimpet) [06:48:09] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2391 is a good one for today. [06:48:13] 03(FIXED) Thumbnails not generated for SVGs with non-ASCII characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16014 +comment (10tstarling) [06:48:19] 03(mod) SVG rasterisation on Wikimedia sites (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8901 (10tstarling) [06:49:44] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2508 too. [06:50:51] 03(mod) Thumbnails not generated for SVGs with non-ASCII characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16014 (10tstarling) [06:51:01] 03(mod) SVG rasterisation on Wikimedia sites (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8901 (10tstarling) [06:52:33] Hmmm. [06:55:16] 03(FIXED) (Next 200) link does not work if over 200 in "*" heading. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2928 +comment (10public) [06:58:41] MZMcBride: similar to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16021 [06:59:02] Heh. [06:59:18] Transcription monkey. Nice. [06:59:39] oo ooo ee eee [07:00:44] _mary_kate_: These old Logwood bugs should stay open, I suppose? [07:00:57] <_mary_kate_> no, we don't use that anymore [07:01:24] The stats requests ones can be resolved as INVALID then, I guess? [07:01:36] <_mary_kate_> WONTFIX [07:01:41] All right. [07:01:50] <_mary_kate_> the requests are valid, but since we don't use the software anymore, i'm not going to implement them [07:02:57] need an 'EARLIER' resolution [07:03:25] 03(WONTFIX) Historical Record Access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2891 +comment (10public) [07:03:56] 03(WONTFIX) filter media's websites in referer logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2924 +comment (10public) [07:04:10] 03(WONTFIX) Precise the starting date of the stats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2925 +comment (10public) [07:04:47] 03(WONTFIX) Most wanted articles - We can't see "Go" misses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3437 +comment (10public) [07:05:24] _mary_kate_: Wanna remove Logwood as a product option in Bugzilla? :-) [07:12:05] 03(NEW) FlaggedRevs: Make combined log for page/user more usable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16046 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (paul.copperman) [07:15:27] 03(WONTFIX) When I click on "New Edit," it only shows one new edit, not both! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2816 +comment (10public) [07:19:58] 03raymond * r42258 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Per r42240: 'antispoof-conflict-item' to be ignored [07:23:25] *MZMcBride blinks. [07:23:31] I can't resolve a bug! [07:24:05] _mary_kate_: I tried to resolve this: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3377 Can you take a look please? :-) [07:24:25] (Because it's in the Issues product, I'm not allowed to resolve it myself.) [07:30:58] *f00li5h meows [07:32:15] is there a way to list the contents of a category in a page, so i can create an overview of "interesting things" from each category? [07:32:39] *DarkoNeko pets f00li5h [07:32:45] *f00li5h purrs =^_^= [07:33:19] !e CategoryTree [07:33:19] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree [07:33:33] {{category:xxx}} will only get you the catégory text page, I think [07:33:35] f00li5h: That extension, perhaps? [07:34:03] not quite [07:34:42] before i fix this question... is there a way for a page to have a short descriptiong associated with it? [07:35:01] outside the textarea ? [07:35:23] I mean the article content itself [07:35:36] right now my Main_Page has lots of ordered lists like # [[Page_name| desc]] - what is in page_name [07:35:44] i'd like one of them that happens automatically [07:35:55] they are listed by category... [07:37:29] DarkoNeko: like a Splarka: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4912 ? [07:39:58] related yah, and some dupes, geez, I guess carl-m and Simmy didn't know it was already known ^_^ [07:40:26] maybe make them depend on 16021 [07:40:55] 03(mod) Allow fixed page footer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5190 +comment (10public) [07:40:58] (or dupe, or whatever) [07:42:44] 03(mod) Category pagination (&from and &until) should utilize pageid for disambiguating identical-sortkeys - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16021 +comment (10public) [07:44:56] 03(FIXED) Allow configuration of "number of changes per page" in user preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5320 +comment (10public) [07:44:59] Low-lying fruit. <3 [07:45:58] fruit on the ground, that is now fermented. careful around heavy machinery [07:46:43] f00li5h hm. I guess you'll have to hack the code a bit to do that [07:47:13] DarkoNeko: hack it to get a descriptiong? [07:47:36] hack it to show the few firstline of the content in a meta tag of some sort ? [07:48:18] DarkoNeko: i don't want it to be a real meta tag, i want it to behave like one... so i can include a summary of the page when i am linking to it [07:48:58] hm [07:49:03] that does not look too simple [07:49:21] I mean, if you add a description field in the edit page process, you'll have to alter it [07:49:29] # [[page_name]] - {{Description:page_name}} rendering to somethingl ike _Company Policy_ - Our rules and regulations ... or similar [07:50:20] ah [07:50:43] then, create a Description namespace and put the description in it ? [07:50:48] that look the simler way [07:50:59] simpler* [07:51:21] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Using_custom_namespaces <- [07:52:25] you'll have an association of [[Page]] and [[Description:Page]] this way [07:52:47] then your [[page_name]] - {{Description:page_name}} works, or you could use a template altogether [07:52:53] 03(mod) Wikipedia default edit toolbar not displaying button images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5747 +comment (10public) [07:53:54] Template? [07:53:59] http://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utilisateur:Darkoneko/a&action=edit <- a template like this one, which you'd call with {{(template name)|(page name parameter)}} [07:54:21] tempaklte are a wiki way to not have to repeat usual code [07:54:37] <_wooz> lo [07:54:42] you create a "backbone" and put the parameters you want (if any) when calling it [07:54:59] I'm not sure if that page is good, but try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Template [07:55:58] f00li5h the wiki have a template: namespace ; since template are called using {{name}}, and you used that syntax, I thought you knew about them :) [07:56:12] peksy [07:56:21] 14(DUP) Add text to the preview when editing a section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5492 +comment (10public) [07:56:32] 03(mod) Edit preview doesn't let you preview cite.php footnotes. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5984 +comment (10public) [07:56:45] DarkoNeko: that would mean i'd need to create a tempalte for each page that i want a description on though, right? [07:56:53] sorry, I don't kn ow that word "peksy" [07:56:57] hm, no [07:57:07] in the way I saw it, you have only one template [07:57:18] but you have a description: page for each page you want a description on [07:57:26] DarkoNeko: annoying: causing irritation or annoyance; "tapping an annoying rhythm on his glass with his fork" [07:57:32] ok [07:57:47] hrm [07:58:58] at least you won't have to alter the mediawiki code this way : it's just "inside wiki" things [08:00:16] well, all this description thing is a side-note... [08:01:41] I want a page containing a list of pages in a couple of categories [08:01:59] i'd like to stick a :Category:Foos page inside another page [08:02:17] 03(mod) Allow CSS styling of - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11161 +comment (10public) [08:02:19] I can deal with not having the description magiclaly turning up for now [08:03:36] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList hmm [08:03:39] maybe that ? [08:03:50] I'm not sure what it does, but looks related1 [08:03:58] haha, i like it [08:04:27] does what i'm asking for make sense? [08:05:08] yes, I get a rough idea [08:05:23] showing on a page the list of articles in a category [08:05:30] in many categories [08:05:40] hm O_o [08:05:49] "many" is the wrong word [08:06:51] I want a list of pages in Category:Foo, followed by a list of pages in Category:Bar, followed by a list of pages in Category:Baz ... [08:07:31] so it come down to what I said, used for different categories :) [08:08:23] which one? [08:09:02] 03(mod) Special:Log should use a timestamp-based pager - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10932 summary; +comment (10public) [08:09:51] showing on a page the list of articles contained in a category <- repeated of each category you want to [08:10:54] no idea if an extension does exactly that, tho :) [08:12:09] if it exists, it's listed on http://www.mediawiki.org/ , but I supose you checked it already [08:12:17] 03jojo * r42259 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (Collection.body.php Collection.php README.txt): applied patch by Richard Ash to allow mw-serve running with HTTPS and a self-signed certificate [08:13:11] 03(mod) Create Community-l - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10999 +comment (10public) [08:16:44] DarkoNeko: i checked a little bit [08:21:48] 03(WONTFIX) Chat rooms for individual pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11190 summary; +comment (10public) [08:22:00] Sheesh. [08:25:59] 03(mod) Display byte size of textarea when section editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11371 summary (10public) [08:26:22] Hi, I would like to have a "languages" menu in the Sidebar. What kind of "sentence" it is to get it work? And does languages after that appear there automatically if for example add [[fr:sidename]] to a wiki page. Sorry, hard to explain, but hope you understand the point that I would like to have multilangual wiki but pages on same database like pagesname/fr etc.. [08:27:24] !langlinks [08:27:24] --mwbot-- Language links are links to translations of the same article on another wiki. For information on how to set up language links, see [08:28:01] (short answer: magic but you have to add them) [08:36:41] Is there any simple tutorial for templates and template use with tables. I would like to build a template for my tables (e.g {{| |-A |B |- |C |D}}. I have google a lot but the examples are very complicated and don't answer my question. any suggestion please [08:37:41] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Template ? [08:38:02] there's probably an equivalent in your local language, if it's not english :) [08:38:15] Just put {{{1}}}, {{{2}}}... into the place were the data should be and save it under Template:xyz You can use ist by typing {{xyz|A|B|C...}} [08:40:10] Wuzur|rhn, thanks [08:40:20] np [08:40:37] DarkoNeko, thanks, [08:45:32] I've spent a lot of time searching for pdf export plugins, which if any is the best, or the one making the most development progress? [08:46:50] !e collection | mr-russ [08:46:50] --mwbot-- mr-russ: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:collection [08:47:01] It's used by Wikibooks since a few days [08:48:30] ah, cool. I'll look into it further. Thanks. It's been a great pain searching and testing pdf extensions. [08:49:15] hello everyone [08:50:17] i've a question, i did read through the manual:user rights but couldn't figure it out... [08:50:35] is it possible to restrict specific pages to a user group? [08:51:04] AirOnSkin: Do you mean only editable by a certain group, or only readable? [08:51:40] both. moreover, that these pages can only be seen by this group... [08:53:55] MattJohnston: for example: UserGroup A can read and write to Pages 1,2 & 3 but not to Pages 4,5 & 6 ... and the other way around for group B [08:54:49] MediaWiki isn't made to do that - it's made for open access and editing, whereas what you want is a CMS [08:55:14] i see... thanks for your help :) [09:23:30] Thanks for the information about interwiki links. How about if I would like to have language translations of the same article on SAME wiki (I mean one wiki and database)? Not another wiki. How I would do it easiest way? [09:24:05] help me to finish my extension :) [09:35:01] Oo [09:35:20] there's something that help that on meta and/or commons, isn't it ? [09:39:29] hirsiukko: Some people just add /en, /de, /fr etc onto the end of the page name then have a template they add to all pages that checks for those pages existing and shows links to them, but theres probably a more efficient way [09:40:46] That sounds good and easy!! What kind of template will do that check automatically? [09:41:16] You can just make one - if you have the ParserFunctions extension, there is a simple code to check if a page exists before linking to it [09:41:23] !parserfunctions [09:41:23] --mwbot-- "Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!). For help using parser functions, please see . For details about the extension, see . [09:49:26] bohoo [09:50:04] so nobody is interested in better solutions but just some templates? [09:59:41] good day. Can someone who have expiriens in semantic forms give me few advice ? Problem 1: autocomplete by category working fine... a want same behavior with one correction - combobox with values without edit with autocompletion. its possible ? [10:00:44] Does anyone have a very basic LocalSettings.php they could pastebin for me? I don't have one handy, and all my local wikis use farming (so wgConf etc) [10:00:55] *DarkoNeko pats Nikerabbit : don't worry, be hapy [10:00:57] +p [10:01:27] It only has to have the absolute minimum to run [10:02:31] DarkoNeko: :) [10:02:37] I have no time to be unhappy :) [10:02:48] all: [10:03:01] Problem 2: any way for dynamical change semantic form ? for example i have form person where i can fill name... date of birth, death etc etc... for all person same info, and for few person i also must fill some other specific values based of one of field... for example for USA presidents dates, for Football players club etc etc, can i create one combobox with type of person (president/player) and show in form only wanted fields ? [10:04:08] how i do link of root url, for example somehost/wiki_page ??? [10:13:28] ( MattJohnston ) It only has to have the absolute minimum to run <- there should be one at mediawiki.org ? [10:13:51] DarkoNeko: That's what I thought, but no. I ended up just pointing an alias at my folder and generating one [10:14:07] hm [10:14:13] I'll copy paste one of mine then [10:14:24] I've already made one, but thanks anyway :) [10:14:31] aw [10:14:49] I was hoping someone would point on on mediawiki.org out to me [10:15:25] I just installed this parserFunctions extension. MattJohnston, you said: "now there is a simple code to check if a page exists before linking to it" [10:15:43] hirsiukko: Look up in it's documentation, you want the ifexist function [10:15:50] ..ok [10:16:01] You can do something like {{#ifexist:[[/en]]|[[/en|en]]}} [10:16:16] WHich is basically, if /en exists, then display the code after the | [10:16:23] sorry, remove the first [['s [10:16:30] :D [10:16:47] thats {{#ifexist:/en|[[/en|English]]}} [10:19:38] 03(NEW) show active users in API siprop=statistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16047 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (lejonel) [10:26:20] Thanks MattJohnston and others. It works. [10:35:33] I moved my wiki to another server and got an internal error when I upload files. [10:35:45] Can't write to the uploaddir (Public) [10:35:58] And I cant find any "Public" Directory in any of my config-files. [10:36:17] public must be your web directory root [10:36:59] Louie`: Check for the upload path in your LocalSettings [10:37:06] Make sure it' still correct [10:38:18] yea its correct. [10:38:56] *DarkoNeko wonder if the directory is apache-writabl [10:38:58] +e [10:40:44] It was permissions :) [10:40:51] Thanks guys [10:41:05] np [10:43:25] 03(NEW) AM/PM indicator should be optional (-> new input type= datetime24?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16048 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (mail) [10:50:57] *Werdna waves. [11:02:17] 03(mod) Something Strange with SVG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14336 (10tstarling) [11:04:41] 03(WONTFIX) null edit disposes of summary without even any warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11463 +comment (10public) [11:08:25] 04(REOPENED) null edit disposes of summary without even any warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11463 +comment (10tstarling) [11:10:05] 03(mod) Bugzilla should allow sorting by bug ID descending - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11491 summary (10public) [11:11:23] TimStarling: Why would one expect no changes to save something? [11:11:46] why would you expect no changes to fail silently? [11:12:06] it should show an informative error message [11:12:26] or it could actually save something you know [11:12:34] mediawiki already does it internally [11:12:39] when protection changes, or on page move [11:12:47] Well, in this case, I think it's best to look at _why_ someone would be clicking 'edit' and adding a comment without making any changes. [11:13:09] either way, the current behaviour is incorrect [11:13:35] Hrmph. [11:14:29] Page protection leaves a marker because something about the page was changed. [11:14:45] true [11:15:07] If nothing about the page was changed, leaving a marker is unnecessary. Pages have talk counterparts for a reason. We don't want users using edit summary fields as a substitute for a legitimate forum. [11:16:18] well, maybe some wikis might have a use for it [11:16:24] it could be a global option [11:16:39] like an approval feature [11:16:51] easier than changing a space or something [11:16:59] Perhaps. [11:17:32] Though using edit summaries as an flagged edit type thing would be incredibly wasteful if it requires a full revision save, no? [11:17:33] I'm not really too concerned about the question of whether null edits should be valid [11:17:47] I just don't think silent failure is a reasonable response to anything [11:18:10] Silent failure for a silent change, I suppose. :P [11:18:46] it's not particularly wasteful, you keep the same text ID so the text isn't duplicated [11:19:13] Is that what page protection does? [11:19:24] yes, and page move [11:19:39] Yes, that would make more sense then. [11:19:48] Revision::newNullRevision() [11:19:59] * Create a new null-revision for insertion into a page's [11:19:59] * history. This will not re-save the text, but simply refer [11:19:59] * to the text from the previous version. [11:20:42] Perhaps a warning screen with a preference to disable would be best. [11:21:04] Similar to what happens if you enable the "warn if no edit summary" option now. [11:21:14] *MZMcBride shrugs. I'm going to bed. [11:27:56] 14(DUP) "search same term in different language" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10044 +comment (10paul.copperman) [11:28:03] 03(mod) Search all languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1837 +comment (10paul.copperman) [11:28:27] 03raymond * r42260 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Per r42245: Document available parameters [11:35:44] 03jojo * r42261 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: Do not save collection pages w/ bot flag as recommended by Erik Moeller. [11:40:39] is there anything specific I need to note when backing up a mw database? [11:41:35] hello all, i have upgraded mediawiki from 1.4 to 1.13.2 installation of mine, the upgrde script didnt work, so i applied fresh installation on old data, and it worked,and afterwards the arabic text read from a mysql database (which is restored from a dump from an older one) is scrambled, i thought this must be a collation issue with mysql and so i changed all collations and charsets from latin1 to utf8, this did not help... the thing is that the scrambled te [11:41:38] xt looks exactly like inproperly displayed utf8 text, and if i copy the scrabeled text to a text editor with encoding set to western iso, save and then change the encoding to utf8, it readable!!! where can the problem lay ? can it be "double encoded data" in the database issue? how can i fix that ? [11:47:31] 03(mod) Notify new comment on Recetchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16042 (10danny.b) [11:51:15] 03jojo * r42262 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: Replace check for namespace NS_MAIN with $wgOut->isArticle(). [11:54:10] 03(WONTFIX) Create Community-l - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10999 +comment (10cbrown1023) [12:00:01] 14(DUP) Allow Wikisyntax in MediaWiki:Nosuchuser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15711 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [12:00:09] 03(mod) Links in MediaWiki:Nosuchuser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15838 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [12:00:56] is there any eta for next scap? [12:07:30] uwe: 1.4 did not use utf8 in general -- though if you had arabic text in there, it might have in your case. [12:07:49] uwe: first of all... did you make a backup of the database? [12:08:03] because changing the charset manually can screw up things badly... [12:08:38] uwe: generally, charset stuff is very confusing. unless all parties agree on what charset is used for what, things get mangled. [12:09:24] content of your database should be utf8. it is possible though that they were *declared* to be something else to work around problems in mysql. [12:09:51] keep in mind, also, that *collation* only determisn the sort order. it's not really important. charset/encoding is important. [12:10:57] anyway. all versions of mediawiki after 1.4 assume data to be stored in the database as utf8, no matter what mysql says the encoding is. [12:17:19] 03(NEW) Editable stylesheet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16049 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (danny.b) [12:17:24] 03(mod) CSS (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12788 (10danny.b) [12:30:55] Werdna: are you here? [12:43:32] 03(mod) Target name parameter defaults to "Object" in delete-and-move and sanitizer.php causes a warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15421 (10crochet.david) [13:12:00] 03raymond * r42263 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialUserlogin.php: Follow up for r41672: 'nosuchuser' is used twice [13:13:19] 'morning all [13:14:16] Is it possible to transclude all pages in a category? [13:14:19] hey Hawson [13:14:25] no, not without an extension. [13:14:33] 03(mod) Links in MediaWiki:Nosuchuser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15838 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [13:14:47] Werdna: thanks much. :-) [13:22:19] Hawson: list of names or content? [13:22:58] content [13:25:28] hello [13:49:47] 03(mod) Enable write api by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16006 +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [13:59:47] hello [13:59:53] please make me a coder! [14:00:57] Bryan: http://www.w3schools.com/PHP/DEfaULT.asP [14:01:14] :P [14:01:20] like in Special:Userrights :P [14:02:07] *Werdna hides. [14:02:35] *Bryan pokes Werdna [14:05:29] 03(mod) clshow considers all categories !hidden - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15579 (10Bryan.TongMinh) [14:06:27] 06(LATER) action=parse should have an option to output DOM tree - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15567 +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [14:06:44] Bryan: you're Bryan Tong Minh, right? [14:06:48] that API guy? [14:07:03] yeah that's me. On wiki I'm just Bryan [14:08:25] done. [14:08:43] Werdna: What's the "coder" right? [14:08:50] thanks [14:08:51] 03(mod) show active users in API siprop=statistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16047 (10Bryan.TongMinh) [14:09:00] hi [14:09:08] chuck: right to set tags and status for code on mediawiki.org [14:09:11] through our code review interface. [14:09:38] is there any way to make mediawiki store uploaded images into the backend instead of files in a directory? [14:09:43] Hello. I have a quick question. I hope someone can help me [14:09:53] Bryan: The API respects the access control of the regular wiki, right? Like if I make it so no one can read except stewards, the API respects that? [14:10:14] I want to change the way MediaWiki displays headlines. But I can't find where the mw-headline class is located [14:10:20] it should, yes [14:10:40] aja2: You could try editing the monobook skin [14:12:14] I was think to just make a new definition [14:12:27] but is there a place where I can its current css definition [14:12:36] I looked around in all the css files and didn't see it [14:13:52] aja2: use firebug, it will tell you [14:13:58] anyway... [14:13:59] !css [14:13:59] --mwbot-- To change styles for your wiki, go to one of the MediaWiki:xxx.css wiki page and put your custom styles there (sysop/admin rights required). MediaWiki:common.css is for all skins and should be used for content styles. MediaWiki:monobook.css is for the MonoBook skin (default), etc. For more information, see !skins and [14:15:14] let me look into that [14:15:26] and I'll also check the bot reply [14:21:21] 03btongminh * r42264 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/SpecialCentralAuth.php: (bug 15806) Added html ids to certain tags. Patch by Pathoschild. [14:21:24] 03(FIXED) Demarcate Special:CentralAuth for JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15806 +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [14:30:03] another problem [14:30:30] I tried to get in as WikiSysop but it would not take my password [14:30:47] So I asked for a new password. That worked and it asked me to change my password [14:31:00] I did this on the login screen and it said changed successfully [14:31:02] yeah... [14:31:13] but i can't get in with the new password [14:31:23] this is very strange [14:31:27] that kinda sucks. [14:31:33] kind of [14:31:42] but at least i keep getting sent new passwords [14:32:04] have you had a look at the FAQ? [14:32:08] not yet [14:32:20] I was first trying to get in as sysop [14:32:31] I'll have a look around. Just wondering if anyone had experienced this before [14:32:33] !faq | aja2 [14:32:33] --mwbot-- aja2: Before reporting a problem or requesting assistance, please check the FAQ first. The FAQ for MediaWiki can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ [14:32:40] ahh [14:33:55] 03(mod) Update WMF error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16043 +comment (10martinp23) [14:48:40] 03(mod) Wikipedia default edit toolbar not displaying button images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5747 (10Platonides) [14:50:26] 14(DUP) Category pagination (&from and &until) should utilize pageid for disambiguating identical-sortkeys - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16021 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [14:50:26] 03(mod) "Next 200" link in category page broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4912 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [14:50:42] 03(mod) "Next 200" link in category page broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4912 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [14:50:50] 03(ASSIGNED) "Next 200" link in category page broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4912 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [14:53:36] 03(mod) Edit preview doesn't let you preview cite.php footnotes. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5984 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [15:02:24] hello, 1.13.2 seems to be incompatible with PHP 5.0.4 [15:03:32] <_mary_kate_> php 5.0.4 is quite obsolete, so that's possible [15:03:35] I know how old this PHP version is, but unfortunately I have no possibility of upgrading it at the moment [15:04:03] and you still state that 1.13.x works with all PHP5 versions :) [15:05:07] error occurs when you try to move an article to an existing one and the query whether you want to delete the old page appears [15:05:25] I'm getting a 'Warning: htmlspecialchars() expects parameter 1 to be string, object given in /web/reactos.org/htdocs/wiki/includes/Sanitizer.php on line 729' message there [15:07:06] and instead of the correct message, I'm getting 'The page "Object" already exists..." [15:09:16] Colin_Finck: there is bug open for that [15:11:20] Colin_Finck, it does support all PHP versions, or should. You may have found a bug. [15:11:35] ah, thank you Nikerabbit, didn't find it for some reason :-/ [15:11:58] Simetrical: well, according to bug 15421, it even occurs under PHP 5.1.6 [15:12:08] so it's not just a PHP 5.0.x issue [15:13:08] 03tomasz * r42265 10/branches/CentralNotice-SpecialPage-Integration/ (5 files): [15:13:08] Updating from local branch. Picking up working notice toggling, display, setting, hour start & locking. Notice template can now be added as [15:13:08] desired with user specified weights. Central Notice will now only load if there is a template available within the set boundries. [15:14:57] Colin_Finck, could you insert this function call before line 729 in Sanitizer.php and pastebin the result? (This will display a lot of gibberish for all users until you remove the line, don't do this if you don't want that.) debug_print_backtrace(); [15:15:13] I don't know what might be calling the function with an object as parameter. [15:16:02] Simetrical: I tried to fix it already but it didn't help :( [15:16:19] Simertrical: well, as the calling object should be the same on all PHP versions, I better try it on my local installation [15:16:43] throws no error as PHP 5.2.3 seems to accept the object, but it's not correct anyway (htmlspecialchars is not meant to take an object according to the doc) [15:17:31] It would normally cast it to a string ("Object") and raise a notice. [15:19:16] Simetrical: hm, for some reason that call reproducibly crashes my Apache [15:19:24] o_O [15:22:04] yeah, don't ask me why, but it happens 100% reproducible [15:22:09] debug_backtrace() doesn't work either [15:24:05] maybe an Apache & PHP update on my local installation helps, don't have the very latest versions here either ;-) [15:25:30] Hi, I would like to know how to activate this template: [15:25:31] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Languages [15:25:59] activate or install [15:42:59] Simetrical: ok, in the latest Apache & PHP version, that crash is fixed. Here's the debug output up to the first appearance of the "Page already exists" message: http://rafb.net/p/hN0Uzi99.html [15:43:29] hope that's helpful [15:43:30] 03siebrand * r42266 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (160 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-10-20 17:35 CEST) [15:44:04] 03siebrand * r42267 10/trunk/extensions/ (11 files in 10 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-10-20 17:35 CEST) [15:44:31] Colin_Finck, unfortunately it's not. It seems that in both cases encodeAttribute is being passed a string, as expected. Are there any other calls, or just those two? That method should be called a lot, I should think . . . [15:46:05] sure, it is called a lot, but do you really need the full 1.9 MB debug log from this site? I mean, if MW got the correct article name, the call in question should have already happened, shouldn't it? [15:48:24] Colin_Finck, well, there's presumably at least one call that begins like "#0 Sanitizer::encodeAttribute(Object". That's the one I want. [15:48:49] Colin_Finck, try this instead: if( is_object( $text ) ) debug_print_backtrace(); [15:48:57] That should only give the backtraces we actually care about. [15:49:47] ok, got them [15:50:57] http://rafb.net/p/4VgCia37.html [15:52:32] Okay, good. [15:56:09] Peculiar. [15:56:16] 03siebrand * r42268 10/trunk/extensions/ (68 files in 68 dirs): Localisation updates for extension special page aliases from Betawiki [15:57:25] I don't see how that could possibly be an object. [15:57:44] Wait, maybe it was misconstructed. [15:57:45] Hmmm. [15:57:54] have fun debugging it, bbl in ~1 hour :P [15:58:19] Aha, I think I see. [15:58:29] Damned lack of documentation. [15:58:55] Wait, WTF? [16:01:28] Colin_Finck|afk, try changing line 108 from "$newTitle = $this->newTitle;" to "$newTitle = $this->newTitle->getPrefixedText();" and tell me if that makes the problem go away. [16:01:41] 03(mod) cat_hidden field isn't used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15191 +comment (10b-jorsch) [16:01:58] doesn't a mediawiki database have key relations inside the scheme? [16:02:18] Oh, wait, hmm, Nikerabbit already fixed it in a different way for 1.14. [16:04:29] Colin_Finck|afk, also, does using version 41911 or later from SVN fix the problem? [16:05:35] is there any way to make mediawiki store user-uploaded images into the backend instead of files in a directory? [16:06:34] nextgens, you mean in the database? There's no support for that right now that I know of, unfortunately. [16:06:58] We know, it sucks for people with safe_mode and so on. [16:07:18] But as with most things that don't affect Wikipedia, there's not much motivation to fix it for most MW devs. [16:07:52] 03(mod) Update WMF error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16043 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [16:09:41] hello all, i have upgraded mediawiki from 1.4 to 1.13.2 installation of mine, the upgrde script didnt work, so i applied fresh installation on old data, and it worked,and afterwards the arabic text read from a mysql database (which is restored from a dump from an older one) is scrambled, i thought this must be a collation issue with mysql and so i changed all collations and charsets from latin1 to utf8, this did not help... the thing is that the scrambled te [16:09:41] xt looks exactly like inproperly displayed utf8 text, and if i copy the scrabeled text to a text editor with encoding set to western iso, save and then change the encoding to utf8, it readable!!! where can the problem lay ? can it be "double encoded data" in the database issue? how can i fix that ? [16:10:56] i posted this earlier, sorry for "spamming" :), but maybe someone new came in :) [16:14:55] "Bugs, Mr. Rico! Millions of them!" [16:24:15] Simetrical> :/ How do you do to provide high availability on wikipedia then? Do you use some kind of "network share" where you put the user-uploaded pictures? [16:26:02] is there a variable that contains all the mediawiki namespaces? [16:27:20] Special:AllMessages ? [16:28:11] nextgens, images are on NFS, AFAIK, yes. [16:29:00] 03rotem * r42269 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Localization update for he. [16:29:29] Simetrical: I did? [16:29:45] Nikerabbit, well, tried to. [16:29:55] hmm, that sucks :) [16:30:11] nextgens, why? Probably more efficient than trying to shoehorn everything onto the database. [16:30:31] it could be cached locally once serviced [16:30:39] in terms of data-maintainance [16:31:34] Well, so could stuff on NFS (although I don't think it is). [16:31:46] I'm not too familiar with our image-serving infrastructure, though. [16:33:01] uploads-in-database are one possibility among many; filesystems, databases, and http/webdav-style services are other alternatives [16:33:06] they have various upsides and downsides :) [16:36:40] 03rotem * r42270 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization fix. [16:40:37] hmmm [16:40:51] I didn't think about that but the idea seems bright [16:41:09] using svn (which has some kind of basic-webdav support) to do it [16:41:20] so that it would be versionned [16:42:37] I mean: "mount" a subversion repository using a fuse-based webdav client... [16:43:04] each new picture created by mediawiki/php would end up being versionned [16:43:21] 03(NEW) Run refreshLinks.php on ruwiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16050 major; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (vasilvv) [16:43:35] and updating the other servers would just be a matter of running svn up once in a while [16:43:45] They're versioned anyway . . . [16:44:23] sure but nothing prevents a BadGuy from deleting the directory on any of the "processing" servers with a NFS share [16:45:00] and I can't really rely on backups provided my users are likely to upload images by lots... and I won't ever backup soon enough [16:45:22] so I really need some kind of versionned network file system [16:46:14] ... or a database backend and some ACLs/triggers... that was my original thought [16:48:02] I wonder if NFS has some kind of "immutable" feature [16:48:50] 03(FIXED) Special pages not being updated on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15848 +comment (10russblau) [16:48:59] hrrrmmm, let's keep in simple and stupid: a nfs share + a cron job chowning the files would do the job [16:49:41] and obviously checkpointed update and deletes on the database server [16:49:45] you'd also need to have the folder +t [16:50:13] what you need is to allow creation and renaming of files, but not deletion [16:50:40] why does it need renaming again? [16:50:58] if you upload a new version [16:51:03] the previous one is renamed [16:51:17] ah [16:51:39] hmm, that sucks too :) [16:52:24] okay [16:52:27] you should really trust teh user running the httpds [16:52:45] if you can't then you're screwed already [16:52:52] 03(NEW) "srredirects" option to list=search doesn' t appear to do anything - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16051 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (russblau) [16:54:49] anyway, I got the replies I was awaiting, thanks guys :) [16:58:52] 03(FIXED) MySQL error "Deadlock found when trying to get lock" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15533 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [17:10:21] Simetrical: line 108 of what file? [17:11:58] 03(mod) Support collation by a certain locale ( sorting order of characters) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164 +comment (10verdy_p) [17:13:41] 03(NEW) Enabling support for multilingual SVGs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16052 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (claus.colloseus) [17:16:45] 03(mod) "Next 200" link in category page broken - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4912 (10verdy_p) [17:18:12] 03(mod) Enabling support for multilingual SVGs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16052 (10Platonides) [17:28:21] 03(mod) Category pagination (&from and &until) should utilize pageid for disambiguating identical-sortkeys - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16021 +comment (10verdy_p) [17:58:35] hello [17:58:40] a couple of questions for you kind folks [17:58:42] ya rly [17:58:47] ok, got that out of the way [17:58:52] so now [17:59:26] i want to integrate a php based emailer (via basic forms) into the mediawiki ... has anyone does this or is there in existance a module/add one for this functionality? [17:59:30] 03(mod) Enabling support for multilingual SVGs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16052 (10brion) [18:00:09] hello [18:00:38] hi Nikerabbit [18:01:26] 03(FIXED) We do not reject mismatched file types on upload for many extensions. Ogg, pdf, mid, sx*, svg, xcf. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10823 +comment (10brion) [18:03:03] 03raymond * r42271 10/trunk/extensions/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [18:03:03] * Add special page alias support [18:03:03] * Add description message for Special:Version [18:03:03] * Tweak extension credits [18:03:03] * Add i18n support in Translatewiki [18:03:18] i'm just gonn hack phpmailer() into mediawiki and publish the extension :) [18:03:55] that seems easier than begging because I can kludge something together before an g0dlike php-dev takes pity on me and writes on up on the way home from work one day [18:05:49] lord forgive the abomination i am about to embark on :) [18:18:11] 03(FIXED) Run refreshLinks.php on ruwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16050 +comment (10brion) [18:22:30] 03raymond * r42272 10/trunk/extensions/LogEntry/LogEntry.php: Fix typo from r42271. [18:24:46] Anyone know what {{int: does in [[{{int:newusermessage-template}}|welcome message]] ? [18:27:28] Mike_lifeguard: it is replaced with the 'newusermessage-template' message [18:27:57] oh, so the content of that page [18:28:09] that's fun, and also wrong :D [18:28:22] *Mike_lifeguard fixed it [18:28:23] should be {{MediaWiki:newusermessage-template}} [18:28:48] I don't see why - it's in an edit summary [18:28:56] it should link to the template we're using [18:29:23] [[Subst:Template:Welcome]] isn't something we should be linking to [18:29:27] Mike_lifeguard: the template should not vary with the user language [18:29:34] no, it doesn't [18:32:18] 03(mod) 'blocked admins can unblock themselves' should be a configurable setting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15810 +comment (10bugzilla) [18:41:11] 03(mod) Update WMF error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16043 +comment (10danny.b) [19:11:24] 03(mod) Update WMF error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16043 +comment (10Platonides) [19:14:49] 03(mod) RSS/Atom feeds prohibited by robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16007 +shell (10Platonides) [19:23:38] 03(NEW) "Servers experiencing a technical problem" message if the url contains & - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16053 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (Platonides) [19:23:42] brion: may want to run that script on dewiki too if you didn't already [19:26:43] hello everyone [19:27:00] How can I restrict articles edition by groups? [19:27:04] thanks in advance [19:28:10] !permission | rodaeche [19:28:10] --mwbot-- rodaeche: I don't know anything about "permission". You might try: !newusergroup !phpinfo [19:28:15] !restriction | rodaeche [19:28:15] --mwbot-- rodaeche: I don't know anything about "restriction". You might try: !secrets [19:28:24] !help [19:28:24] --mwbot-- Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot >, you can find all my source code at < http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn >. A dump is now available at < http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/botbrain.html > [19:28:44] !access | rodaeche [19:28:44] --mwbot-- rodaeche: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [19:29:12] I'm not trying to resctrict access, buy page edition [19:29:14] but* [19:29:48] then it's easier :P [19:30:03] please explain me, I'm kinda lost with that [19:30:09] $wgGRoupPrrmissions['*']['edit'] = false; [19:30:23] and give edit right to the group you want [19:30:40] but that's for all atricles, right? [19:30:51] yes, for any page [19:33:13] you can restrict editing to some namespaces with $wgNamespaceProtection [19:42:55] <|rodaeche|> sorry ppl, energy cut off [19:43:23] <|rodaeche|> Like I was saying, I need to restrict edition for certain articles, not all [19:44:42] !access | |rodaeche| [19:44:42] --mwbot-- |rodaeche|: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [19:44:48] you still need to read this [19:45:04] <|rodaeche|> lch: how do I use it? Kinda lost [19:45:07] 03(mod) Wikimedia error message is unclear when url contains & - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16053 summary; +comment (10brion) [19:45:41] you enter the second URL into your browser and then read it [19:46:45] <|rodaeche|> lch: ok man [19:46:46] <|rodaeche|> thanks [19:47:10] 03(mod) RSS/Atom feeds prohibited by robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16007 (10brion) [19:51:33] 03brion * r42273 10/trunk/debs/squid/debian/errors/error.html: [19:51:33] Revert r42252 "Per bug 16043, remove referral to #wikipedia et al. from Squid error; channel ops report this has become unhelpful." [19:51:33] This decision has not in fact been made; since we currently have no other place to send people for status updates it would be rather bad to remove it yet. [19:52:29] 03(NEW) Make Summary Field Longer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16054 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (seventowers) [19:52:39] 03(WONTFIX) Remove IRC link from WMF error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16043 summary; +comment (10brion) [19:54:37] 03(mod) Make Summary Field Longer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16054 (10brion) [19:55:10] 03(mod) Make commit summary field longer in CodeReview revision list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16054 summary; +comment (10brion) [19:55:59] <|rodaeche|> hello [20:03:47] 03(mod) "srredirects" option to list=search doesn' t appear to do anything - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16051 (10brion) [20:08:57] 03(mod) RSS/Atom feeds prohibited by robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16007 (10me) [20:09:49] 03(mod) "srredirects" option to list=search doesn' t appear to do anything - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16051 +comment (10rainman) [20:42:41] TWiki has a "Checkpoint" button that saves the edit and continues. Does MW have anything like this? [20:42:45] 03dale * r42274 10/trunk/extensions/PlayerStatsGrabber/ (4 files): updated to work on the same server as oggHandler using ajax request instead of cross site javascript injection [20:44:47] <_mary_kate_> Rich_Morin__: no, but maybe you could open a bug. that sounds quite useful [20:44:53] <_mary_kate_> (bugzilla.wikimedia.org) [20:45:03] sounds like a "Show Preview" that actually saves to me... [20:45:42] <|rodaeche|> How do I create an extension? [20:45:54] <|rodaeche|> Is there any reference? [20:46:13] <|rodaeche|> extention* [20:46:20] I can see the use if you have a lousy session and/or comp and don't want to lose your work... but for everyone else it seems like all it would do is clutter up page histories with "works in progress" and cause potential edit conflicts from people attempting to fix up those wips without knowing the author just saved a checkpoint [20:46:28] <|rodaeche|> *extension [20:46:33] <|rodaeche|> :p [20:46:38] <_mary_kate_> Skizzerz: the right solution to bad connectivity is auto draft saving [20:46:48] THAT would be nice [20:46:50] <_mary_kate_> Skizzerz: i've found a few times i would like to save the page and edit it again, though [20:47:13] should be relatively trivial to implement though, just have the submit button take you back to action=edit [20:47:24] isn't someone doing draft stuff? [20:47:26] (and save the edit, of course) [20:47:39] Skizzerz: it could append ([[{{ns:project}}:Checkpoint|checkpoint save]]) to the edit summary or something, so people know [20:50:33] TWiki has this notion that any set of edits completed within an hour are all one version - this has benefits and drawbacks... [20:51:12] that's wrong [20:52:14] 03dale * r42275 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/ (6 files in 2 dirs): changed to use a single one time use global variable (hopefully addresses -r42237 revert ) [20:53:37] 03aaron * r42276 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (SpecialCode.php codereview.css): (bug 16054) Make commit summary field longer in CodeReview revision list [20:53:49] 03(FIXED) Make commit summary field longer in CodeReview revision list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16054 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [20:54:51] lo [20:55:35] Is there a way to have a template accept a list of items? i.e. I want to pass a template a list and have it create a table row for each item [20:57:45] 03(mod) Allow queued renames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15212 (10mikelifeguard) [20:59:34] !seen HappyDog [20:59:34] --mwbot-- I am not your secretary, use /nickserv info [20:59:56] haha [21:00:20] I don't care about mwbot, there are always a couple of other bots that reply ;P [21:00:42] <_mary_kate_> i do wish mwbot wouldn't do that [21:00:50] <_mary_kate_> if amidaniel doesn't want to write a seen function, just have it ignore the command [21:01:03] well, it's good info [21:01:29] I just can't be assed to remember this nickserv thing, so I do appreciate the hint [21:04:07] !seen del [21:04:07] --mwbot-- Successfully removed keyword: seen [21:04:22] _mary_kate_, it's not amidaniel, it's apparently just an ordinary keyword. [21:04:35] <_mary_kate_> ah [21:04:38] <_mary_kate_> !seen asdasd [21:04:38] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "seen". [21:04:49] <_mary_kate_> let's add a less rude one then ;) [21:05:08] Too bad we can't get it to shut up entirely and let unilinky answer instead. [21:05:16] At least I don't think we can. [21:05:21] kickban? ;P [21:07:11] brion: Want one? :-) https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3377 is un-resolveable as I don't have sufficient access. [21:09:36] 03(WONTFIX) Notify new comment on Recetchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16042 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [21:12:30] !seen is try /nickserv info [21:12:30] --mwbot-- Successfully added keyword: seen [21:13:04] _mary_kate_: ---^ [21:13:48] oh, you don't have a wikimedia cloak. so you are not trusted automaticlly. [21:14:34] @trust *.flyingparchment.org.uk [21:14:34] --mwbot-- Added *.flyingparchment.org.uk to trusted hostnames list. [21:14:43] :O [21:15:44] wait, it uses regex [21:15:58] hmm, isn't that /msg nickserv info ? [21:15:58] --mwbot-- java.util.regex.PatternSyntaxException: Dangling meta character '*' near index 0 *.flyingparchment.org.uk ^ [21:16:55] hehe [21:16:59] !test [21:16:59] --mwbot-- This is a nifty test of niftiness ... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:`e11` << lookie, isn't that cool? :) [21:17:10] good. [21:17:30] Danny_B: probably better. though /nickserv will work on many clinets, i suppose. [21:18:56] !test [21:18:56] --mwbot-- This is a nifty test of niftiness ... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:`e11` << lookie, isn't that cool? :) [21:20:59] brion: do the 'hidden' tables have KEY (hidden_user_text,hidden_timestamp) yet? [21:30:07] 03(FIXED) wikification fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12331 +comment (10public) [21:38:28] 03(NEW) Duplicated ids on deleted diff view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16055 minor; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (Platonides) [21:38:34] 03(FIXED) Fatal error using OmegaWiki with Expression:a,I - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9093 summary; +comment (10public) [21:51:32] 14(WFM) OmegaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9429 +comment (10siebrand) [21:53:39] siebrand: :O [21:53:48] I was literally just about to commit to that bug. [21:57:05] MZMcBride: your previous FIXED triggered me to take a closer look at some issues :) [21:57:37] I've been editing the bugs with bad summaries like "Fatal error" and "OmegaWiki". :-) [22:01:12] 03(mod) Front / back end separation of setup script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10541 summary (10public) [22:02:10] 03aaron * r42277 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialUndelete.php: (bug 16055) Fix duplicated ids on deleted diff view [22:04:13] 03siebrand * r42278 10/trunk/extensions/AdvancedRandom/ (AdvancedRandom_body.php SpecialAdvancedRandom.php): (bug 12964) Fix parameter, and add query for templatelinks. Patch by Lejonel. [22:04:33] 03(mod) AdvancedRandom does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12964 +comment (10siebrand) [22:04:48] 03(FIXED) AdvancedRandom does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12964 (10siebrand) [22:05:45] Does anyone here who's online know how to configure $wgconf for CentralAuth who's online? [22:07:08] Werdna: ping? [22:07:42] siebrand: Wendna has been away for more than 5 hours [22:08:02] techman224: he has an auto responder, which works quite well :) [22:09:00] siebrand: Do you know which program it is? MIRC script? [22:10:42] techman224: I think irssi v0.8.12 (ctcp reply) [22:12:35] siebrand, isn't just the away feature of irc? [22:13:09] Platonides: dunno. I'm using mIRC and I have no idea if that msgs if someone pings me. Don't think so. [22:15:15] 03(mod) change language tag from 'roa-rup' to 'rup' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15988 -crosswiki +shell; +comment (10siebrand) [22:15:41] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15967 contains a request for a component "Test". Any comments? [22:16:29] siebrand: I'm here now. [22:17:58] Werdna: hey. Was going to poke you about bug 15545, but I think you may not be the right person given the recent commits to CentralAuth. I think I'd better poke AaronSchulz. [22:18:58] bah [22:19:56] Rich_Morin__: I wrote a working extension that implements the Checkpoint feature if you're interested, but it still fails in terms of section editing >_> [22:20:38] 03(FIXED) Add "Edit Messages" extension to Bugzilla. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15825 +comment (10siebrand) [22:23:18] Werdna: I back too [22:23:19] 03(mod) I can't stay logged in bugzilla anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15710 +comment (10siebrand) [22:23:35] Werdna: I still need help with $wgconf [22:24:08] 03(mod) bugzilla log out/log in endless loop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15703 +comment (10siebrand) [22:25:20] techman224: Just ask your question. [22:25:41] I'm not the only person who knows about CentralAuth, and besides, I can't help you if you don't explain your problem. [22:27:26] 03(FIXED) Add "Postcomment" extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15697 +comment (10siebrand) [22:28:35] siebrand: Got a second? [22:28:46] 03(mod) Powered by bugzilla message runs into footer div's border - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15740 +comment (10siebrand) [22:28:49] MZMcBride: sup? [22:29:00] siebrand: Can you remove the Logwood product from here: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi ? [22:29:25] And update the URL http://tools.wikimedia.de/~river/ to http://toolserver.org/~river/ ? :-) [22:29:35] MZMcBride: only if it has no history... Otherwise it should stay, or the issues assigned to it should be recategorised. [22:29:53] MZMcBride: update the URL in which component? [22:29:55] siebrand: As far as I know, it has no current issues filed under it. [22:30:11] Kate's Tools [22:30:18] Skizzerz: feel free to send me a link! [22:30:30] Rich_Morin__: I'm writing up the docs right now [22:30:37] MZMcBride: it has 18 resolved issues. No can do... [22:30:44] MZMcBride: will update the link. [22:30:57] siebrand: Even if the issues are current the product must stay? [22:31:03] Aren't. * [22:31:14] MZMcBride: link updated. [22:31:26] Thanks. :-) [22:31:30] MZMcBride: I think so, but not completely certain. I'll google... [22:31:40] or ask in #bugzilla. :) [22:31:52] damn, does not exist. [22:33:06] siebrand: One more bug if you have a second.. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3377 is filed under Product:Issues which doesn't exist. [22:33:12] Which means I can't modify or resolve the bug. [22:34:06] Hmm. Though I guess I could try changing the product... >_> [22:34:10] 03(mod) Repeated "forwarding denied" errors accessing site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3377 (10siebrand) [22:34:24] MZMcBride: Wikimedia/General now. [22:34:31] Thanks again. [22:34:56] MZMcBride: I think you have your answer there about Logwood. [22:35:10] All old bugs would be locked. [22:35:26] MZMcBride: and they cannot be found on product/component anymore, I guess. [22:35:32] Yeah. [22:36:08] Wendna: Look at http://rafb.net/p/dLJsVh96.html [22:36:12] MZMcBride: not certain if I like that. Or... Check "Closed for bug entry" :) -> done. [22:37:02] techman224: you should move any paths over into wgArticlePath [22:37:40] techman224: but the big problem is that you're setting 'settings', and then resetting it! [22:37:44] MZMcBride: btw, prettified "Kate's tools" description :) [22:37:48] techman224: you want this: [22:37:52] :-) [22:38:14] $wgConf->settings = array( 'wgServer' => array( 'default' => 'http://tornaodchas3r.biz', ), 'wgArticlePath [22:38:48] no comments about the 'Tests' component in bugzilla? [22:38:49] mark: Can you take a look at: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3377 please? :-) [22:38:54] ( https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159670 ) [22:39:00] ehr: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15967 [22:39:04] $wgConf->settings = array( 'wgServer' => array( 'default' => 'http://tornaodchas3r.biz', ), 'wgArticlePath' => array( 'techmanextra1' =>'/techwiki/techwiki/$1', 'techmanextra2' => '/techwiki/metawiki/$1' ) ); [22:39:24] 03skizzerz * r42279 10/trunk/extensions/Checkpoint/ (. Checkpoint.i18n.php Checkpoint.php): * add new extension to svn [22:39:25] siebrand: What would be the purpose? [22:39:35] how can I put an URL with [] on a wikipage? [22:39:37] MZMcBride: "For reporting issues relating to test infrastructure, testing etc.". [22:39:45] Kind of vague, IMO. [22:39:48] like http://www.wdr5.de/veranstaltungen/veranstaltungen.html?tx_wdr5events_pi1[showUid]=142 [22:39:52] siebrand: Heh. Yes, I can read. :P That makes no sense. ;-) [22:40:04] ok, I'll ask for more info. [22:40:46] siebrand: Do you think https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10932 can be marked as resolved? [22:40:48] 03(mod) In bugzilla, add component 'tests' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15967 +comment (10siebrand) [22:40:51] 03(NEW) Entries in the image table with invalid titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16056 major; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (Platonides) [22:41:07] 03(FIXED) Repeated "forwarding denied" errors accessing site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3377 (10mark) [22:41:20] Thanks, Mark. :-) [22:42:32] MZMcBride: re 10932 guess so, unless the reported wants to see a UI for it. [22:43:00] I'll leave it alone for now. [22:43:07] MZMcBride: there is a UI-ish thingie, though, based on year/month to start with. [22:43:21] MZMcBride: just give it a shot and mark it resolved. [22:43:34] Well, I doubt Rob is going to come back and argue. :P [22:43:41] 03(mod) Entries in the image table with invalid titles - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16056 (10Platonides) [22:44:44] 03(FIXED) Special:Log should use a timestamp-based pager - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10932 +comment (10public) [22:46:43] 03(mod) process_bug.cgi hides "bugs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13134 +comment (10siebrand) [22:47:57] 14(WFM) Bugzilla error sending mail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15662 +comment (10siebrand) [22:50:39] 03(mod) Bugzilla error sending mail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15662 (10Platonides) [22:50:42] Wendna: I put in the line on both wikis, what next? [22:52:08] Rich_Morin__: sorry about that, my computer decided to die >_>. Anyway, if you haven't found it already, it's at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Checkpoint [22:52:16] 03(mod) process_bug.cgi hides "bugs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13134 +comment (10Platonides) [22:52:22] techman224: you need to remove all of the other $wgConf->settings = ... lines [22:52:29] and see if it works [22:52:55] Werdna: Done that [22:52:56] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12244 +comment (10siebrand) [22:53:03] o.O [22:53:04] Werdna: Testing [22:54:04] Platonides: hmm, "My ". Interesting. [22:54:09] Werdna: Doesn't work, can't merge my account [22:54:43] Werdna: I get a internal error [22:55:20] 03(mod) process_bug.cgi hides "bugs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13134 (10siebrand) [22:55:33] Werdna: I post it [22:55:35] siebrand, i checked when answering the other bug [22:55:45] to pastebin [22:55:48] now i'm laughting of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95849 :P [22:55:56] 03(FIXED) RSS Feed for Special:Contributions for a particular user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12171 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [22:56:16] Hmm, Lack of Sex is interfering with my ability to triage bugs. Interesting. [22:57:04] "Do not bother trying to reproduce this [22:57:04] bug. Due to it's unique nature, reproduction is impossible. [22:57:04] " [22:57:06] xDDDDD [22:57:17] 03(mod) Special: RevisionDelete should have clearer logs for individual revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15814 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [22:57:35] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60455 - 'Mozilla doesn't add time to the day' [22:58:11] 03(WONTFIX) Add link to logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12057 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [22:58:32] 03(mod) Automatic List on linked articles for namespace reference - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12000 +shell; +comment (10siebrand) [22:58:44] Werdna: Look at http://rafb.net/p/JaXZMW66.html [22:59:15] *AaronSchulz wonders what brion thinks of https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4182 [22:59:26] 03(mod) Add link to logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12057 (10innocentkiller) [23:00:00] AaronSchulz: i think we should probably consolidate some more of the feed code [23:00:05] i think there's a lot of duplication currently [23:00:12] Anyone know what bug is the bug about [23:00:29] techman224: pastebin your localsettings. [23:00:54] interwiki userrights changes having an interwiki link [23:00:54] brion: so what about that user_text index for oversight? [23:00:54] is that done? [23:01:04] Alexfusco5: It's almost done, actually. [23:01:36] In my RightsManager stuff [23:01:36] 03(mod) RSS feed for logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4182 (10brion) [23:01:36] AaronSchulz: probably not. if it's a schema/index change i doubt it [23:01:36] Werdna: I know, I just want the bug # [23:01:37] but it depends on MattJohnson merging some interwiki stuff. [23:01:37] i don't recall hearing of that one either. what is it and how old? [23:01:37] Alexfusco5: dunno. [23:01:37] search :) [23:01:37] 14(WFM) Back button blanks form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11713 +comment (10siebrand) [23:01:37] brion: prolly can be done without switching [23:01:39] *Alexfusco5 tried that first :p [23:03:01] <^demon> Platonides: Comment #24 is great. [23:03:25] 03(FIXED) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12244 +comment (10brion) [23:03:52] oversight table shouldn't be very big no :) [23:03:52] indeed [23:08:53] 14(INVALID) Bugzilla should allow sorting by bug ID descending - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11491 +comment (10siebrand) [23:09:13] comment #92 is also quite good [23:09:29] Werdna: http://rafb.net/p/Uja6GN56.html That's techmanextra1's LocalSettings.php [23:11:06] Werdna: http://rafb.net/p/Ui1OI657.html it's techmanextra2's LocalSettings.php [23:11:16] <^demon> 404: Girl not found. [23:12:36] filing a bug to attract her husband's attention? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360323 [23:12:48] 03siebrand * r42280 10/trunk/extensions/PovWatch/PovWatch_body.php: (bug 15977) Plural wasn't supported. Now using wfMsgNoTrans(). Patch (#5447) by rememberthedot. [23:13:03] 03(FIXED) MediaWiki:Povwatch_pushed should use PLURAL: - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15977 +comment (10siebrand) [23:14:04] <^demon> Platonides: Just read it :-p [23:14:34] 03(mod) Bugzilla duplicates.cgi broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11044 +shell; +comment (10siebrand) [23:15:20] good night [23:16:19] 14(WFM) Make bug submission interface less confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6914 +comment (10siebrand) [23:17:04] <^demon> siebrand: Playing with Bugzilla, much? [23:17:06] techman224: add $wgConf->suffixes => array(''); [23:17:34] 03(WONTFIX) tweak mediazilla component names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9952 +comment (10siebrand) [23:17:47] ^demon: only what's needed. Can't find the damn version number, though. [23:18:10] ^demon: I still think it's ugly software and should be shot, though. [23:18:33] ^demon: and determined to make this weeks buzilla report :) [23:19:35] <^demon> Stroking your ego, much? [23:20:04] ^demon: need that now and then... [23:22:18] Werdna: I get " [23:22:18] Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_DOUBLE_ARROW in /var/www/techwiki/metawiki/LocalSettings.php on line 172" [23:22:18] Simetrical: only way to resolve https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10350 is making a patch, or have it fixed upstream. INVALID per "Bugzilla: Configuration problems with MediaWiki's Bugzilla bug tracker. NOTE: Please don't report bugs in the underlying Bugzilla system. Those bugreports should go to http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ ! "? [23:22:43] <_mary_kate_> siebrand: not UPSTREAM? [23:22:47] Werdna: I think is => that's causing it [23:23:26] make sure you put $wgConf->, not $wgConf=> [23:23:33] _mary_kate_: hmm? [23:24:00] Werdna: It's working! [23:24:36] yay [23:24:43] 03(mod) Change logo on ms.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15771 (10innocentkiller) [23:24:53] brion: anyways, I'll commit when you do those :) [23:25:03] 03(mod) it.wikiversity - Impossible import pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12231 +comment (10innocentkiller) [23:25:27] 03(mod) Change logo on ms.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15771 +comment (10innocentkiller) [23:25:35] _mary_kate_: have I got things the wrong way? I know I have a left and right issue. I may have the same issue up/downstream. [23:25:58] <_mary_kate_> siebrand: iirc, bugzilla has an UPSTREAM resolution for bugs which are someone else's problem [23:27:19] _mary_kate_: our bugzilla is downstream from the standard bugzilla product, isn't it? [23:27:27] <_mary_kate_> siebrand: yes, so the bug needs to be resolved upstream [23:27:39] There's no UPSTREAM resolution visible to me. [23:27:55] <^demon> I never understood why en.wiktionary got a whole product to itself :) [23:27:57] FIXED, INVALID, WONTFIX, LATER, REMIND, WORKSFORME. [23:28:10] MZMcBride: -> INVALID. [23:28:23] *MZMcBride nods. [23:28:29] MZMcBride: "outside of this bugzilla's domain" [23:28:40] Just noting the lack of UPSTREAM. ;-) [23:28:46] I agree with your closes. [23:29:23] <^demon> siebrand: I'm wondering if some of the outdated "Update translations" requests marked as LATER could be closed. [23:29:43] ^demon: just gimme the id's. [23:29:48] 03(NEW) HTML comments inside galleries cause images not to be rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16057 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (bugs) [23:29:58] <^demon> One moment. [23:30:04] 14(INVALID) Separate out keywords, depends on, blocks into "advanced" section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10350 +comment (10siebrand) [23:30:28] wee. Down to 22 from 33 on component bugzilla ;) [23:31:17] Skizzerz: Thanks for the Extension:Checkpoint - I had gathered that it wasn't an "official" extension yet, so I never looked for it. [23:31:28] 14(INVALID) bugzilla log out/log in endless loop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15703 +comment (10siebrand) [23:31:40] 14(INVALID) I can't stay logged in bugzilla anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15710 +comment (10siebrand) [23:31:54] 14(INVALID) process_bug.cgi hides "bugs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13134 +comment (10siebrand) [23:32:01] ^demon: I had an old bug for you... [23:32:12] Rich_Morin__: I only created it after you asked about it :) [23:33:02] well, then :-) [23:33:26] <^demon> siebrand: 1813, 2671, 3573, 5682, 6950, 8792, 9436....not sure if this is all, but that's a few to start. [23:33:55] i heard there is a new version of mediawiki being developed in hand optimised 6502 assembler for 8 bit machines ? any news on the development ? [23:35:38] hi Krimpet [23:35:56] *Skizzerz hasn't heard of it [23:36:04] 03(mod) "ca" name in Names.php needs update - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1813 +comment (10siebrand) [23:36:44] ^demon: Can you revisit https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2508 ? [23:37:15] 'evening :) [23:37:55] <^demon> MZMcBride: Wow, that is old. [23:38:12] *MZMcBride nods. There are older more trivial bugs if you're interested. ;-) [23:38:18] 03(mod) Romanian language file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2671 +comment (10siebrand) [23:40:04] <^demon> MZMcBride: I'll test the patch out locally, give me a few minutes to make an account and block myself :-p [23:40:56] 03(mod) Romanian language file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2671 (10siebrand) [23:41:34] 03(mod) Romanian language file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2671 (10siebrand) [23:41:49] 03(mod) Full Greek Translation (patch included) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3573 +comment (10siebrand) [23:42:41] 03(mod) LanguageHsb.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5682 (10siebrand) [23:44:55] 03(mod) Updated Georgian Translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6950 +comment (10siebrand) [23:46:56] 03(mod) Update for Portuguese (Brazil) language (pt-br) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8792 +comment (10siebrand) [23:48:00] 04(REOPENED) Vertical writing support in MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9436 +comment (10siebrand) [23:48:07] ^demon: done. [23:49:48] ... [23:50:29] siebrand: where's the vertical writing support in standards-implementing browsers? [23:50:34] *AaronSchulz watches brion [23:50:46] *brion prepares to resolved 9436 as LATER [23:51:00] brion: still researching that... [23:51:20] :D [23:51:24] brion: I'll give you a piece of candy corn if you update the schema [23:51:39] AaronSchulz: i've got a pile of paper the size of your head on my desk [23:51:46] ain't gonna get to it today :) [23:53:06] textarea.vertical { tilt-head:clockwise 90� no-neck-injury } [23:54:22] I'm having trouble getting a frame and label on an ImageMap - http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/index.php/PrF_UG_classes_class_browser - Clues? [23:55:39] The lower image in http://pastie.org/296754 is what I currently have... [23:57:26] *siebrand surrenders. [23:57:28] *^demon adds bug 14418 to the list of schema changes on Brion's desk [23:57:29] 06(LATER) Vertical writing support in MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9436 +comment (10siebrand) [23:57:37] hi [23:58:00] I have never come here before, but maybe someone could help me import a mediawiki dump [23:58:10] I am getting an error when I try to insert it [23:59:02] ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 1: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ' [23:59:25] the file is about 18 gigs and I have to open it at the command line, it is too big to look at on the machine