[00:00:15] Nowait, did the WRT do B? [00:00:30] WRT54G? [00:00:40] No, the N model [00:00:43] 03mrzman * r42964 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiProtect.php: (bug 16207) - Fix title protection in the API. $expiry is cast to an array near the start and doesn't have the correct timestamp format here anyway. [00:00:57] Dantman, mhm [00:00:59] My father has a router that supports N, but I'm really only using the G [00:01:03] 03(mod) Protecting against creation protects expiring on the epoch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16207 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [00:01:13] Most WiFi routers support at least 2 versions of WiFi [00:01:17] Most commonly b/g [00:01:20] Updated to revision 42963. [00:01:21] _svnup [00:01:21] Updated to revision 42964. [00:01:27] The N's normally support g/n [00:01:29] 2 svnups in 5 minutes O_O [00:01:38] Though some might handle b/g/n [00:02:12] The crappy WiFi we have here supports only an old b [00:02:13] *gewt has a php bot updatign mediawiki to the latets SVN versiob for him [00:02:26] Our Wii works with it [00:02:43] So the Wii should be supporting b/g [00:03:05] But N is to new for the Wii/DS which was released awhile ago [00:03:10] woo [00:03:11] fixed [00:03:14] wrogn window [00:03:35] Apple hardware should be fine since they often create this bleeding edge tech [00:03:46] aye! [00:04:57] Or at least use it [00:04:57] So any new Apple hardware has a good chance of supporting b, g, and N [00:09:08] 03(mod) Protection log should display the protected as the first portion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16164 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [00:21:23] 03dantman * r42965 10/branches/titlerewrite/phase3/: [00:21:24] Deleting failure... Yet again ;) [00:21:24] trying to handle a svn branch failed twice. Ideally now that I'm on [00:21:24] Ubuntu instead of Windows and I have svnmerge already through an apt [00:21:24] package I should be able to actually branch properly. [00:25:07] ^_^ Ok, guessthe connection did fail [00:25:38] mmmm... server proxy buffered irc [00:28:32] 03dantman * r42966 10/branches/titlerewrite/phase3/: Branching /trunk/phase3 to /branches/titlerewrite/phase3? [00:28:41] ^_^ Now to see if my svn branching utterly failed [00:29:13] whohoo, it worked [00:38:31] 03(mod) Protection log should display the protected as the first portion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16164 (10N/A) [01:00:06] Hey I've narrowed my issue with installing mediawiki down some, it seems that no matter what I put into the installation field it ignores it. [01:00:21] 64 Connect Access denied for user 'httpuser'@'localhost [01:00:21] ' (using password: NO) [01:01:08] any ideas why it might be attempting to connect as the apache user? [01:02:22] 03tomasz * r42967 10/branches/CentralNotice-SpecialPage-Integration/ (CentralNotice.i18n.php SpecialNoticeCentral.php): collapsing listNoticeDetail into one form. not listing templates that are already assigned [01:02:51] Toxic_: What version are you using? And what have you put into the superuser/database user fields? [01:03:46] v 1.13.2 (latest stable) and I put in 'wikiuser' and 'wikidb' both of which I created. [01:04:54] Are their any fields at all with a value of httpuser? [01:05:15] nope. [01:05:32] httpuser is the user the apache process runs as. [01:06:42] 03(mod) Create proofread page namespaces on Chinese Wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15722 +comment (10jus168jih) [01:07:49] http://rafb.net/p/wEF4sA20.html [01:07:56] SQL Information [01:15:32] so given that MW distributions don't come with a LocalSettings.php in the tarball, how do you easily check when you're upgrading whether there are new things you ought to add to your LocalSettings? [01:15:49] diff the code in config/index.php? not worry about it? [01:15:56] check the Release Notes [01:15:56] reading the release-notes? [01:16:07] hmm, that's a radical idea. [01:16:13] if you were to diff anything, you should diff DefaultSettings, not index.php [01:16:41] well, DefaultSettings is going to get replaced in the update, so I'm not worried about that. [01:16:53] ... [01:16:53] but if any changes are made to the default LocalSettings, I wouldn't see those. [01:17:02] you diff DefaultSettings against your settings [01:17:08] new variables will be added there [01:17:20] also changes to default values [01:19:47] I see, each release notes has a "configuration changes" discussion. cool. [01:22:19] No other ideas why it ignores the values I have in the fields? [01:23:53] Toxic_, maybe it's forced by some other module to have the same mysql user as system user? [01:26:37] Toxic_: that info has nothing to do with your error [01:27:04] "Access denied for user 'httpuser'@'localhost' (using password: NO)" [01:27:10] Yes.. [01:27:21] GRANTS don't matter [01:27:23] MediaWiki is trying to connect as httpuser. [01:27:40] yes, so the relevant information, is what config do you have in your LocalSettings.php file [01:27:48] The GRANTS show that the user exists and has the permissions needed. [01:27:55] None I haven't installed this yet! [01:29:05] How did the user get created in the first place? [01:29:12] ..By me? [01:29:44] You have a superuser account? [01:30:02] yes. [01:30:07] Ok, then delete that user [01:30:13] Tried putting that in and a non-existant user. [01:30:13] 03tomasz * r42968 10/branches/CentralNotice-SpecialPage-Integration/ (SpecialNoticeCentral.php SpecialNoticeTemplate.php): adding inline previews for notice lists [01:30:19] It still tries to connect as httpuser. [01:30:48] Ya, one thing at a time, but I was just noting that, cause you may run into another issue if you try to use that existing user [01:31:05] It has permissions it doesn't need, and is missing a permission that may be needed [01:31:09] I've done that already.. [01:31:21] Best is normally to have the config installer create it on it's own [01:31:30] Then I put in the root user, and mysql root and it still trys to connect as httpuser. [01:31:35] Ok [01:32:20] How was PHP installed on your system? [01:32:27] from source. [01:32:38] Ok [01:33:01] Then perhaps we should look at the [MySQL] section of your php.ini file [01:35:03] sql.safe_mode [01:35:11] It sounds like you may have that set [01:35:20] http://rafb.net/p/L1gYPP79.html [01:35:27] http://www.php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php#ini.sql.safe-mode [01:35:52] yep I do [01:35:58] Ok, then that's the issue [01:36:43] sql.safe_mode makes it so that the arguments for connecting to the database are overridden with the default config values... because you have no default config user it uses the http user [01:36:59] Turn svn.safe_mode off and things should start working [01:37:03] sql* [01:37:55] And it works, thanks [01:41:01] Any common reason it would show a blank page after putting the localsettings file in the parent dir and removing the original? =p [01:42:56] Toxic_, the reason will be at the error log [01:47:13] And it works.. file was chowned www:www not www:httpuser. Alright one thing on my to do list down. Thanks guys. =) [01:50:15] *Dantman wonders if he should release his bash development script for other people to use [01:50:38] ^_^ I'm extending it to better handle branches [01:51:20] mmmm.... [01:51:44] svn info | grep 'Revision:' | awk '{print $2}' [01:59:26] 03dantman * r42969 10/branches/titlerewrite/phase3/: [01:59:26] Initialized merge tracking via "svnmerge" with revisions "1-42965" from [01:59:26] svn+ssh://wikimedia/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/phase3 [02:00:19] ^_^ gotta love ssh config [02:03:30] 03tomasz * r42970 10/branches/CentralNotice-SpecialPage-Integration/ (CentralNotice.i18n.php SpecialNoticeCentral.php): restructure to vertical listing to accomodate long drop downs [02:05:51] Dantman: Branching is even harder on windows :p [02:06:09] ^_^ I know [02:06:21] I failed twice on my old system [02:06:38] Now that I'm on Ubuntu, it was quite easy [02:06:46] svnmerge even came in an apt package [02:18:46] 03tomasz * r42971 10/branches/CentralNotice-SpecialPage-Integration/SpecialNoticeCentral.php: adding ability to adjust project & language in listNoticeDetail [02:49:27] 03nad * r42972 10/trunk/extensions/PdfBook/PdfBook.php: don't remove toc for single page exports [02:51:55] 03(mod) Tidy sucks, won't leave stuff alone - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2542 +comment (10innocentkiller) [03:29:16] 03(mod) Create proofread page namespaces on Chinese Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15722 +comment (10zy26) [03:42:04] 03(mod) query-continue incorrect for usercontribs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16195 (10thecentercannothold) [03:49:16] How do I make a skin respect the stuff in MediaWiki:Sidebar like "SEARCH" and "TOOLBOX"? [03:55:08] And is there a way to disable user's styles? [04:06:23] What was the "davinci" skin? [04:11:26] Anyone?... [04:11:52] Why does MediaWiki use BLOB all the time >< [04:13:37] In honor of the classic film? [04:22:44] 03brion * r42973 10/branches/CentralNotice-SpecialPage-Integration/CentralNotice.php: fixup defaults for loader calls -- $wgArticlePath may be unset at config time [04:39:44] 03charlie * r42974 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/DefaultSettings.php includes/User.php): Added a new configuration option: $wgAllowUserSkin [04:41:41] brion's still up :/ [04:45:32] Wow, the daddio skin looks really awesome, especially with a logo: http://charlie.yourwiki.net/wiki/Home [04:45:46] Looks like its modern based [04:46:37] 03brion * r42975 10/branches/CentralNotice-SpecialPage-Integration/SpecialNoticeCentral.php: [04:46:37] Fix for r42971 -- make project/language selectors in notice detail form work correctly. [04:46:37] They worked for saving, but weren't setting the correct option as selected when re-displaying. [04:50:49] chuck: wow, that *is* sexy [04:56:04] 03brion * r42976 10/branches/CentralNotice-SpecialPage-Integration/SpecialNoticeCentral.php: some whitespace cleanup [04:57:32] chuck: that's awesome [04:57:35] 03brion * r42977 10/branches/CentralNotice-SpecialPage-Integration/ (3 files): save my sanity by putting Special:CentralNotice in SpecialCentralNotice.php :) [04:58:46] Yeah I'll definitely have to make the main page look better, but it's a good start [04:58:50] what is this special page/central notice thing we've been seeing so much of lately? [04:59:16] Mike_lifeguard: My guess is that Brion is cleaning it up for this year's fundraiser, that's coming up soon, isn't it? [04:59:28] yes, in like 2 days [04:59:31] but what is it? [04:59:48] *werdnus tickles Mike_lifeguard [04:59:48] Mike_lifeguard: That's the thing that shows that progress bar [04:59:55] on every wikimedia wiki [04:59:58] boring :P [05:00:17] werdnus: could you take a look at r42974 and tell me if its something that could make brion mad, please? ;-) [05:00:45] link to Special:Code? :) [05:01:16] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/42974 [05:01:59] *chuck thinks someone should make a thing so that mwbot will format codereview links like !revision 12345, !author charlie, etc [05:03:01] I think it does !r - but probably links to viewvc or whatever it's called [05:03:08] !r 42974 [05:03:08] --mwbot-- http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=42974 [05:03:25] meh [05:03:52] chuck: see comments. [05:05:09] replied [05:07:47] replied [05:09:26] 03brion * r42978 10/branches/CentralNotice-SpecialPage-Integration/ (SpecialCentralNotice.php SpecialNoticeTemplate.php): cleanup manual 'a href' => link() [05:14:42] 03brion * r42979 10/branches/CentralNotice-SpecialPage-Integration/ (SpecialCentralNotice.php SpecialNoticeTemplate.php): fix tab highlighting [05:17:12] Hmmmm [05:17:36] I'm starting to debate whether I should save _title_ui as page_title_ui or rev_title_ui... [05:34:57] revf [05:35:00] rev* [05:35:11] at first glance, that seems most sensible. [05:35:17] chuck: have you looked at the comments again? [05:36:09] Ya, after awhile I'm starting to think that [05:36:19] then you can track history of it. [05:36:27] :/ Though that's probably going to make this even more complex to program [05:36:51] meh, good programming is tough [05:37:06] Though, it'll be easier to handle the deletion code [05:37:28] ^_^ Time to kill my db [05:39:54] Title changing might even get a bit messy [05:40:26] Originally I was going to have page moves change that... [05:41:01] But now I might need to take a better look at the movepage backend [05:42:31] hi, i'm looking for an extension, but i dont remember the name of it [05:42:59] it prevents accounts from being created that are the same as another account that are only different by letter case [05:43:11] Mmmm... [05:43:23] ^_^ My title rewrite could make that possible [05:43:58] ;) ie: Make the User: namespace completely case-insensitive, and suddenly User:Dantman and User:DANTMAN are the exact same person [05:44:49] uberfuzzy: I think you're probably looking for http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/AntiSpoof/ [05:45:04] yeah! [05:45:10] :) [05:48:26] werdnus: Sorry, my laptop is really sucky and it only charges while it's off, I'm back on now. So what exactly do you think I should fix/change? Disabling useskin? [05:49:10] chuck: well, it depends on what you actually want to use it for. [05:49:39] HOWEVER, I don't see it as sensible to be able to disable skins without also disabling useskin... [05:49:47] werdnus: I was also thinking adding a notice to the change skin page saying like "The wiki will currently override your skin settings with it's default skin (monobook), so the settings below won't have any visible affect. If the wiki does allow users to select different skins in the future, the one set below will be used." or something? [05:49:50] somebody could just append useskin to the URL parameters with greasemonkey or something. [05:50:00] Just gray it out. [05:50:10] *werdnus wanders off to study [06:05:37] Hi TimStarling. Happy Tim Starling Day for yesterday (since I didnt see you on then) [06:09:22] 03charlie * r42980 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [06:09:23] Made it so that users can't test out skins if user skins are disabled (per [06:09:23] Werdna), and user skin selection has now been disabled on the preferences [06:09:23] special page, with a notice on top telling why that happened. [06:11:53] 03charlie * r42981 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialPreferences.php: Let's hide the (preview) link, as it won't do anything now. [06:12:02] werdnus: All done ^ [06:14:33] hi [06:25:34] Tim: ^_^ Do you welcome the ~~Apocalypse~~ Title rewrite... heh [06:31:31] 03brion * r42982 10/branches/CentralNotice-SpecialPage-Integration/SpecialCentralNotice.php: [06:31:31] Far too much refactoring for this hour of the night. ;) [06:31:31] Removed lots of dupe code for generating table rows and date/time selectors. [06:31:31] Switched from 15-minute increments to just showing all available minutes, why not eh? [06:39:09] TimStarling: could you look at 42974, 42980, and 42981 and post a comment on my talk page on mw (user Cmelbye) about the quality, etc of them, please? only if you have some extra time though [06:39:18] s/at/at revisions/ [06:43:25] what's the point of it? [06:43:41] easier configuration? [06:45:56] chuck: are you svn-charlie? [06:49:14] yes, he is. [06:49:31] ok :) [06:49:32] chuck: good-o [06:50:05] chuck: you have to add new message names into messages.inc too [06:50:16] you could use $wgSkipSkins to achieve the same result [06:52:20] TimStarling: by the way, has the configuration for centralauth UDP notification been done yet? I couldn't see mention of it in *Settings.php (on noc.wikimedia.org) [06:55:04] probably not [06:55:54] agh... something is screwing with whitespace [06:56:12] I think the configuration is almost the same as core. [07:02:08] TimStarling: Looking at the code, I think adding $wgCentralAuthUDPAddress = $wgRC2UDPAddress; $wgCentralAuthNew2UDPPrefix = 'centralauth: '; to CommonSettings.php should do the trick. [07:02:12] Might want to ask Aaron, though. [07:06:01] what about the port? [07:06:21] I can't imagine that being unsafe, because private wikis have $wgRC2UDPAddress unset. [07:06:26] um, let me look at Aaron's code. [07:06:44] damn... explodes on save... need to fix [07:07:15] TimStarling: it looks like the function sendToUDP uses $wgRC2UDPPort as the destination port, and doesn't allow overriding. [07:07:32] I don't know why Aaron has overriding for the address but not the port. [07:07:38] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/RecentChange.php?view=markup [07:07:43] search for public static function sendToUDP( $line, $address = '', $prefix = '' ) { [07:09:42] # Low-level sanity check\nif( $this->mTitle->getText() == '' ) { [07:09:50] Agh... this isn't low level enough [07:10:01] >:/ db key! [07:11:11] TimStarling: ah, wait a sec - I think I made an error in $wgCentralAuthNew2UDPPrefix -- should be "#centralauth\t" [07:11:23] sorry - I forgot we had a format for that. [07:11:25] I set it to #central\t [07:11:29] okay, good-o [07:12:30] We've probably hit the channel limit. [07:12:59] 18:12 [wikimedia] -!- #central: No such channel [07:16:21] no, it's just the same old bug [07:16:46] yeah, that's what I was talking about. [07:20:00] Whohoo... rev_title_ui is preserved on edits [07:21:23] what is that? [07:22:07] I think it's in his branch. [07:22:12] http://d.imagehost.org/view/0511/Screenshottitle_Development_Environment_titlerewrite_Mozilla_Firefox.png [07:22:50] Used to be page_title_ui, but a very short discussion proved enough to switch to rev_title_ui [07:22:58] why do you need to rewrite anything to achieve that diff? [07:23:06] it was done years ago with displaytitle [07:23:26] that screenshot, I mean [07:23:31] *TimStarling has diffs on the brain [07:24:02] heh, what have you been doing with diffs? [07:24:06] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7702913.stm <-- Heh [07:24:28] (almost as good as http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3165/2691947209_4e4fe0d260_o.jpg ) [07:24:29] *werdnus has "the impact on society and the environment of the use of Sodium-24 in industry" on the brain. [07:24:42] HistoryBlob.php [07:24:46] http://d.imagehost.org/view/0768/Screenshot-All_pages_Development_Environment_titlerewrite_Mozilla_Firefox.png [07:25:06] big deal [07:25:43] that's hardly the reason displaytitle was crippled [07:26:02] Only a small subset of what this is about [07:26:15] it was crippled because brion felt that it was too confusing to have a different title for display and for linking [07:26:26] and too much clutter to have a subtitle [07:32:08] maybe you should send a post to wikitech-l [07:32:35] I have better things to do than stare at IRC for 5 minutes waiting for an answer [07:32:52] Title rewrite has existed since March. [07:33:04] how many posts have you sent? [07:33:05] It was already discussed in wikitech [07:33:38] TimStarling: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Werdna#Character-counting_parser_function -- Should we write a parser function for formatting quantities as the poster describes there? [07:34:59] just add a parser function to format a number in scientific notation [07:35:10] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2008-March/thread.html [07:35:59] TimStarling: they want to add spaces every three digits. [07:36:08] narrow spaces, I think [07:37:04] each to their own [07:38:07] anyway, what they're really after, I think, is StringFunctions. [07:38:13] But IIRC that needs some cleanup before it goes live. [07:39:18] Dantman: haven't we already talked about that? [07:39:40] werdnus: I don't think it should ever go live [07:39:54] TimStarling: oh, why? [07:40:07] werdnus: Yes, StringFunctions needs refactoring, it is using fairly inefficient methods of doing the simple things it does [07:40:09] it will make templates even more slow and complex [07:40:25] it will allow tasks to be done in templates that are currently impossible [07:40:47] thereby increasing the use of that unholy programming language [07:41:02] I liked your comparison of it to mIRC scripting [07:42:38] *werdnus points to Extension:Lua [07:43:30] TimStarling: on a related note... i have started to set up a template system of including bibliographic records. I don't think it's too terrible, but before deploying it on a large scale, would you mind looking it to it for a couple of minutes? the main entry point is http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:ISBN [07:43:32] Lua is nice... but it was rejected for general use simply because not everyone can install it [07:43:39] werdnus: ex:Winter :) [07:43:58] Yuck, Winter was horid [07:44:02] :P [07:44:08] no, Brion didn't like it because implementing a programming language gave him the willies. [07:44:18] Winter went and reimplemented part of the parser in handling it's own {}'s [07:44:49] 03siebrand * r42983 10/branches/CentralNotice-SpecialPage-Integration/CentralNotice.i18n.php: Message updates [07:45:01] I doubt it's even properly compatible with the new parser [07:45:01] TimStarling: i'd also like to talk to you about the possibility of including this type of info from a central repos into multiple wikis... but I have to go afk for a bit soon, so now is probably not the best time for that. [07:46:18] Duesentrieb: I stopped reading at 'Template system' [07:46:52] is this an expected diff in the 'new preprocessor'? http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Migration_to_the_new_preprocessor&curid=112097&action=history (verified at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ParserDiffTest?pdt_title=Main+Page&pdt_input=%5B%5BImage%3AWiki.png%7C19.px%5D%5D )... wow, 7 months late [07:46:55] 03siebrand * r42984 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Follow up on r42980. Register message and fix alignment. [07:47:18] werdnus: whatever you call it, it's less complex that the average infobox on enwp. [07:48:33] Splarka: I never saw 19.px. I would say it was a mistake [07:48:44] Duesentrieb: :) [07:49:14] it's not preprocessor related [07:49:18] it's just bitrot [07:50:36] something that happens to have changed behavior this year at some point, or did the old parser regress? [07:51:34] I don't know [07:51:45] does it matter? [07:51:52] not really [07:51:57] (and since the oldPP isn't apparently accessable anymore except via ParserDiffTest, is that special page even need anymore on wmf?) [07:53:35] probably not [07:54:10] should we open a +shell bug to remove it, like makesysop/makebot? since it will just continue to return more false positives at this point [07:54:30] it's gone [07:54:41] wow, that was easy [07:54:48] *Splarka didn't even feel himself submitting the bug [07:55:01] *Splarka gives Tim a bag of spooky candy [07:55:37] *werdnus completes a form, signs it in triplicate, sends it in, sends it back, queries it, loses it, finds it, subjects it to public inquiry, loses it, and buries it in soft peat for three months and recycles it as firelighters. [07:55:41] TimStarling: While you have it open, there are five extensions that can be disabled, if you want. [07:56:14] "Welcome to Wikipedia, where the reward for a job well done is 5 more jobs" [07:56:32] Isn't that true anywhere? [07:56:56] it is better when you get paid a commission [07:57:20] ^ good for used car salesman, ^ bad for salaried worker, ^ really bad for volunteer [07:57:56] heh [07:58:43] Poem, Makesysop, UniversalEditButton, Usernameblacklist, RenderHash. [07:58:57] 03(mod) query-continue incorrect for usercontribs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16195 (10roan.kattouw) [07:58:57] what did RenderHash do? [07:58:58] <_mary_kate_> why universaleditbutton? [07:59:10] it's in core. [07:59:26] I've never understood UniversalEditButton. [07:59:35] Poem, UEB, Makesysop, and RenderHash are in core. [07:59:42] Usernameblacklist is deprecated in favor of the Titleblacklist. [08:00:42] RenderHash has something to do with secure.wikimedia I think. [08:00:54] 03raymond * r42985 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): ParserDiffTest disabled on WMF wikis. Obsolete now. [08:01:34] *werdnus watches the family guy star wars parody. [08:03:25] 03raymond * r42986 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/MediaWikiExtensions.php: ParserDiffTest disabled on WMF wikis. Obsolete now. [08:27:44] <_wooz> lo [08:28:15] 'lo. [08:36:40] 03(mod) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582 (10s.r.e.turner) [08:59:20] 03(mod) query-continue incorrect for usercontribs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16195 (10thecentercannothold) [09:00:09] 03(NEW) Video metadata parsing borked for latest version of ffmpeg2theora - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16208 normal; normal; Cortado: jheora; (sco_scam) [09:08:32] 03rotem * r42987 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Localization update for he, and reordering the right and action messages. [09:25:17] 03dantman * r42988 10/branches/titlerewrite/phase3/ (21 files in 4 dirs): [09:25:17] Committing todays work on the TitleRewrite branch. It's a fair start, [09:25:17] differs from the original branch and is probably a little more stable [09:25:17] than it. [09:39:54] 03tstarling * r42989 10/trunk/phase3/includes/HistoryBlob.php: [09:39:54] New DiffHistoryBlob storage format and compression method, which maintains a [09:39:54] good compression ratio in the case of vandalism by replacement with small text. [09:39:54] The storage format allows edit wars to be dealt with as well, but an efficient [09:39:55] algorithm for that may be more difficult. [09:40:30] <_mary_kate_> TimStarling: delta storage? [09:40:40] <_mary_kate_> or something more complex? [09:42:06] before that commit, it was delta storage [09:42:15] after the commit, it's delta storage with optional reordering [09:42:30] so you can arrange all the vandalism in one block, so it doesn't affect the main sequence of edits [09:43:54] TimStarling: ooh, spiffy. [09:44:19] If the text of two revisions is the same, does it store it twice in es, or does it nicely use the content already there? (that may help revert-only edit wars at least) [09:44:34] it stores it twice [09:44:45] <_mary_kate_> MattJohnston: that particular problem can be fixed without changing the storage method [09:44:58] <_mary_kate_> there just needs to be some logic to find an existing old_id with the same content [09:45:00] I was just curious whether it did [09:45:02] but if they're recompressed to the same HistoryBlob, then they can be stored effiicently [09:45:17] <_mary_kate_> (i think rollback already does this?) [09:45:23] I assume having some sort of checksum lookup would be the best way, like we do for images [09:45:37] <_mary_kate_> please, not like we do for images ;) images need a total rework [09:45:49] under certain circumstances, multiple revisions can share a text ID [09:45:57] I'm not sure if rollback is one of those [09:46:27] but if the edits are closely spaced and you recompress with DiffHistoryBlob, then it'll just be a null diff anyway [09:51:03] anyway, removing duplicate revisions alone would gain next to nothing [09:51:24] currently we're storing every item of text individually compressed [09:52:07] you get a compression ratio of maybe 2-4 [09:52:17] I don't think we're running out of disk space, anyway. [09:52:40] It's the size of an individual revision that matters, IIRC. [09:52:41] it's closer than you might think [09:53:11] (since IO is at a premium) -- correct me if I'm way off.. [09:53:14] with DiffHistoryBlob you can get a compression ratio of maybe 100 [09:53:20] whee [09:53:24] <_mary_kate_> some people on en are claiming that a proposed featured video isn't high enough quality [09:53:34] <_mary_kate_> but it's already 480Kbps... do they want people to actually be able to watch the video? [10:03:29] _mary_kate_: maybe they think we have video thumbnailing. [10:03:50] <_mary_kate_> that'd be pretty neat actually [10:03:58] yeah [10:04:34] very neat [10:04:45] but kinda expensive, CPU-wise. [10:04:48] <_mary_kate_> would probably need 2x cpu capacity [10:05:32] If somebody wanted to DDoS us, they'd just have to request hundreds of videos at 100px, 101px, 102px, 103px, ... [10:08:41] that would only DoS the scalers [10:08:46] maybe only allow powers of two [10:08:46] and maybe the image backends [10:09:08] 03dantman * r42990 10/branches/titlerewrite/phase3/includes/ (Article.php Title.php): [10:09:08] TitleRewrite: Making old revision viewing and page diffs respect the [10:09:08] title for the individual revision. [10:10:08] <_mary_kate_> TimStarling: depends, if there's something like the fast scaling method for jpeg (if you scale to a particular reatio) for mpeg/ogg, it might work [10:10:19] TimStarling: depends on whether DB connections are held open while images are scaled. [10:10:24] If so, it'd be fun. [10:11:50] As I remember, unless you are using GD the scaling is handled completely in a separate process from the web app [10:12:34] one of the bonuses of using ImageMagick instead of GD was that MW didn't need to wait for something to scale before it served out the page, so things ran smoother [10:13:38] Hmmm... guess it's time to ./manage offline for today [10:15:57] <_mary_kate_> we don't do image scaling on apaches, we use a 404 handler [10:16:28] does it open a DB connection, though? [10:17:06] <_mary_kate_> there's no reason it would need to, but i've no idea if it actually does or not [10:17:31] maybe to check the image table.. [10:18:51] <_mary_kate_> shouldn't need to do that [10:18:59] <_mary_kate_> except possibly for weird stuff like archived images [10:32:24] 03(NEW) Deleted images are not watched - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16209 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (le.korrigan) [10:36:56] ^_^ Oh right, heh... I just remembered something... The title rewrite branch was why I got commit access in the first place [10:39:23] 03(mod) Resizing of edit box on screen using JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9370 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [10:58:58] 03(NEW) Date Format not always consistent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16210 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (paul) [11:20:52] 03maikmerten * r42991 10/trunk/cortado/src/com/fluendo/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Estimate playback position according to how many bytes have been read from source if no duration is given. [11:33:24] 03(mod) Parser function on Korean Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13712 (10camway) [11:48:17] I wonder why MW shows the action bar of the main page in http://meta.wikimedia.org/?diff=1252937 and works in http://meta.wikimedia.org/?diff=prev&oldid=1252937 [11:57:21] because the first one is a broken URL and you should be happy that it doesn't just throw an exception [12:00:45] got to restart, brb [12:05:13] 03(mod) Install hanp arser function on Korean Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13712 +need-review +shell; summary (10siebrand) [12:06:27] 03(mod) Install hanp extension parser function on Korean Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13712 summary; +comment (10siebrand) [12:06:37] 03tstarling * r42992 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) [12:06:37] * Added $wgDebugLogPrefix, to allow users (or in this case, multiprocess command-line scripts) to set a debug log line prefix [12:06:37] * Improved blob_tracking.sql docs [12:06:37] * Allow testCompression.php to run until happy instead of a specified revision count [12:06:39] * Added docs for some debugging globals in DefaultSettings.php [12:06:41] In experimental script recompressTracked.php: [12:06:43] * Fixed crippling bugs, seems to work now. Needs more testing. [12:43:11] *werdnus loses the game [12:50:04] 03(mod) Pseudo-Namespace on Korean Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15880 (10camway) [12:53:56] 03minuteelectron * r42993 10/trunk/extensions/Babel/BabelAutoCreate.class.php: [12:53:56] * Use $user parameter to doEdit() rather than messing about with $wgUser. [12:53:56] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/42666 [13:21:39] hi werdnus [13:22:11] can someone explain why you cant move a category? [13:24:17] 03tstarling * r42994 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/storage/recompressTracked.php: Typo [13:26:39]